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1240: Meat Must Flow

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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May 7th, 2020
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Executive Producers: Sir Dave, Duke of America's Heartland and the Arabian Peninsula, Ann Comfort, Ty McMahan, Sir Roly of Crystal Palace, slayer of the concrete dinosaurs, Drew Sample

Associate Executive Producers: Sir Scott of the High Plains., Joe Bisesi, Sir Jobiwan of Weekapaug, Captain Luke, Knight of the Barbary Coast, Sir Dave of the Gold Coast, Sonja Bosenberg

Cover Art by Trent Drak

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Woodstock
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    those boys are just gonna get in the
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    trouble the way they think Adam Curry
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    John C. Dvorak this is no agenda and
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    from northern Silicon Valley where I
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    have the exact right amount of clips I
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    can explain why later I'm John C Devorah
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    [Music]
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    well I know the feeling when you wake up
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    and everything's there and you're like
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    oh my god have the exact right amount of
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    claps yeah the last show and now we
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    don't play everything but we came to the
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    party with almost 70 clips yeah we came
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    with too many that's quite a lot of
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    quite a lot of clips yes do you want to
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    expand on why it's just the right amount
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    of will that come later yeah what I've
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    did my newest process is I take the
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    clips and I print them on a sheet on the
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    left hand side landscape style
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    oh okay and so that leaves a bunch of
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    room on the page usually have to have
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    two sheet for taking notes writing down
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    potential titles things like this stuff
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    yeah yeah and when I folded the paper in
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    half it usually has the clips or there's
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    a lot of little white space over there
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    there was a it's perfect it's like when
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    you fold it in half to create a you know
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    landscape Felipe's piece of paper fold
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    in half the the length of everything is
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    just perfect it fit on the sheet
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    perfectly well so this is the exact
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    right amount of clips that is an
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    interesting observation I have something
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    very similar I have a window open and
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    it's the clip bin and I tossed like so I
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    have your clips in the morning that's in
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    a folder it's closed but then when that
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    when that bin is filled to the bottom
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    before it starts to scroll that's my
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    sign that I have the ideal amount of
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    clips
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    there you go this is everybody out there
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    is fascinating
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    inside the podcasters studio everybody
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    without of Korean Jon sliver egg so
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    we're almost well we're on our road to
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    recovery here tomorrow make Texas in
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    Texas yes tomorrow May 8th barbershops
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    and hair salons may commence Louis about
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    time well this through everybody fairly
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    everybody needs a haircut oh do I ever
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    oh man I look scraggly Tina's
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    complaining about her about her roots
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    well that's what women do but I
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    understand so I immediately texted my my
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    hair gal she's like well because this
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    was Friday yeah Friday so we've been
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    totally blindsided by this we don't know
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    what to do we're not ready they were I
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    think that the the hair industry was
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    kind of kicked back like the month
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    whatever I'm flying goodbye haircut so I
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    guess we should immediately talk about
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    the haircut of the Chicago mayor which
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    she did despite actually telling
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    everybody that you shouldn't go to the
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    hair salon he or she is the whole
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    thing's kind of explained in this clip
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    you hadn't heard it yet Mayer Lightfoot
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    facing criticism tonight after getting
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    her hair done a photo surfaced of the
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    mayor with a hairdresser but she
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    appeared to ignore social distancing
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    efforts standing right next to them for
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    the picture when asked about that photo
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    today this is what the mayor had to say
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    I'm the public face of this city I'm on
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    national media and I'm out in the public
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    eye and you know I map I'm I'm a person
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    who I take my personal hygiene very
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    seriously as I said I felt like I needed
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    to have a haircut I'm not able to do
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    that myself and so I got a haircut
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    I'm going to talk more about that part
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    of the criticism came from the fact that
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    the mayor had called on people not to go
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    out and get their hair done in one of
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    her stay home save lives PSA so that
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    pissed people off and I kind of liked
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    how she takes her personal hygiene very
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    seriously it's important to her is it
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    personal hygiene really involved with
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    washing your hair as opposed to getting
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    a cut well maybe it was more than that
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    for her did you use the word hygiene
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    personal appearance different yes what's
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    great though and all of this is in the
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    show notes the videos in there as well
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    and it's in a show notes calm what's
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    great to watch is when she's saying that
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    this the the woman who was signing next
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    to her is making these horrible faces
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    you know how they they really do a lot
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    of the expression when they're signing
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    and and they and they mimic some of the
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    words and and she actually was looking
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    at the mayor going like grimacing her
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    face like I'm a portent it's something
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    that has to be seen it's very very funny
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    once you take your attention off
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    Lightfoot herself so in Texas Governor
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    Abbott said okay me these the the broad
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    announcements May 8th hair salons
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    barbershops I think nail salons as well
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    on the 18th
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    Jim's other types of athletic places and
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    I think on the 18th and restaurants can
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    go to 50% so that's moving along but oh
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    no we can't have that with our mayor
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    adlet here in Austin no no oh no this is
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    wrong
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    yeah you know it's a way too early of
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    course how could we go back to the
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    Abbott and Abbott specifically said you
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    this supersedes everything but everybody
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    here in Austin wants to have masks on
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    outside it's 99 degrees I'm barely
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    surviving let alone some coronavirus in
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    the air it's not happening so Adler well
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    since you can't find you he'll guilt you
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    into wearing a mask clear this up for me
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    are we still required to wear the masks
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    in Austin or did the governor's order
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    supersede that well
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    Gunnar's order said that we weren't
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    allowed to have a penalty of a civil or
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    criminal penalty associated with not
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    wearing masks but yet he recommended me
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    whereas the lieutenant governor
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    recommended we wear masks every public
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    health official that I talked to says
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    people should wear masks
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    so in Austin in the city I'm going to
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    keep it mandatory now the penalty for
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    not wearing a mask is that more people
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    are going to be infected and some people
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    are going to die so the penalty is
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    justice now I'm hoping that people will
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    take this particular penalty very
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    seriously we should all still be wearing
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    masks yeah you got me into two clips I
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    got a play I wasn't meaning a blame
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    right away about a play okay both about
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    masks uh-huh let's start with Trump in
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    Arizona no mask democracy now big deal
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    it's a reopening of our country who
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    would have ever thought we were going to
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    be saying that a reopening reopening
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    president Trump made the remarks during
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    a trip to Arizona where he toured a
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    Honeywell aerospace plant that's now
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    producing a 95 facemasks Trump wore
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    safety glasses but no masks during the
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    tour
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    ignoring a sign in the factory ordering
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    everyone inside to wear facial covering
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    as a Honeywell executive showed
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    president Trump n95 masks loud speakers
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    blared a cover of the song Live and Let
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    Die by the band Guns and Roses
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    Wow they stoop to this level this is
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    this is like face bag level reporting oh
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    my god
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    [Applause]
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    Trump also wore no mask during a
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    roundtable discussion Tuesday with
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    Native American leaders at the meeting
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    Trump promised to send a half billion
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    dollars to the Navajo Nation which has
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    been devastated by kovat 19 more than a
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    month after Trump signed the Kara's Act
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    into law tribes still haven't received
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    some eight billion dollars and promised
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    relief funds okay so that where that
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    leads me to this wait can I just make a
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    quick observation about this sure that
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    is Trump's tape that's the one he plays
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    at the rallies that's the one with tiny
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    dancer that's the one with an in fact
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    right after he was done at the plant
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    they played that can't always get what
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    you want and it's not Guns and Roses
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    it's wings
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    shut up Amy Amy Amy
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    we got Amy there so this came up and
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    this just caught my attention and
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    brought me back to the clip we just
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    played this is Kaley new secretary yes
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    this is good
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    she's great by the way she is now she's
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    real mean she's a mean girl I had no I
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    had my doubts about Kaley mackaninee I'm
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    like she's gonna get eaten alive she
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    comes out with just tons of makeup and
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    hair also I mean really hammered on
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    thick because she's changes her entire
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    appearance it really does she looks
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    entirely different and then yeah I
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    thought this was a great mic drop me one
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    this is the one on masks oh oh oh the
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    master one I haven't heard the mask one
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    okay what do we got play this is Kayla
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    and the politics of mass now she doesn't
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    really answer this question but it
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    brought up an interesting point which
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    relates to the fact that Austin's all
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    bent out of shape
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    Amy's all bent out of shape and the
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    question is we do have to discuss this
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    but you've I'm sure you've seen the
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    number of holes there's a huge
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    difference between Democrats and
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    Republicans over whether or not they
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    think it's necessary to wear masks no
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    sense as to why that would be that's the
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    choice to the American public choice to
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    the individual as to whether to wear a
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    mask or not but again I'd praise the
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    extraordinary work of this
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    administration and distributing those
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    masks and ensuring health care providers
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    son get them okay so she doesn't answer
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    the question but now this guy did bring
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    up the point and this point is reflected
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    in all the clips you're gonna get the
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    Democrats all we gotta wear a mask we
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    gotta wear our masks were told to wear a
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    mask we have to wear a mask we're gonna
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    kill each other they're all gonna die if
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    we don't wear a mask yeah the
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    Republicans are hey I wear a mask 'its
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    are somebody around and they don't worry
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    I have to wear a mess I wear a mask if I
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    have to wear a mask I'm not gonna wear a
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    mask if I don't have to wear a mask I'm
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    not gonna wear a mask when I'm walking
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    down the street and it's a political
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    thing so this whole thing's become
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    politicized and the mask is D is the
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    kind of this symbol well it was it was
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    ventilators before that now it's gone
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    now it's gone to the next level
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    and I think I know why but I'm
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    interested to hear your further thoughts
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    I don't really have any serious thoughts
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    i but I do know that I have a basic
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    thought mm-hmm I think the Democrats are
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    the Liberals in Canada would be a good
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    example they're more compliant they
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    fought they're more route they're
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    rule-followers they can't think for
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    themselves oftentimes I think I mean I
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    hate to say it but that just seems to be
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    the case and they and their virtue
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    signaling and the virtual signal is a
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    big part of it all we've got a mask on
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    look at me I got a mask on it's it's the
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    blotter and people so you don't have a
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    mask on you should have a mask on they
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    like the lecture people yes it's all
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    it's all so go ahead well I don't have
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    anything deeper than that's kind of a
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    shallow I know it's very obvious besides
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    the virtue signal which in fact shows
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    other people that you have the same
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    irrational thinking at this moment if
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    it's outside now if someone has a
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    business and they want me to wear a mask
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    in their business fine I really don't
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    care if I want to get something if not
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    if I don't want to do business with them
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    I won't but outside no you're not gonna
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    shame me in and into any of this but the
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    reason for it is also
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    the symbolism of a muzzle shut up slave
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    it's a muslin er yes I like it and
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    that's why people who are mad about the
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    whole thing really refused to wear it I
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    think subconsciously we're like no I'm
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    not going to be muzzled by this that's a
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    good I like this a lot thank you now I
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    will say that Mimi has a mess that she
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    had made I think J made it for which
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    goes over the nose and mouth and this is
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    a break limits when the cloth vest was
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    painted and I recommend people try this
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    I mean we do have some matching just buy
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    from the Zoe she's sniffing she's
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    sniffing the paint is she breathing that
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    rue this name is not just paint it it's
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    got a big red nose and a stupid-looking
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    clown smiling too big giant teeth
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    hanging out of it mmm so just it's the
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    stupidest looking thing you've ever I
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    have to take a picture put it in the
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    newsletter I'll wear it it's it's she
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    won't wear she's embarrassed by it but
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    I'd wear it and it's very funny and it's
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    like makes it it really was just
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    ridicules the whole system since
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    graduation but just from you know I
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    okay I'm biased now because I think of
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    it as it's a really as a muzzle as a I
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    mean there's so much that goes along
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    with the mask yeah but I when people
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    come in an opposite direction for me but
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    also in Texas I smile you know now all
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    you got to work with is your eyes and I
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    got a really bad eye today so people
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    would always see was a mask in this
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    pussy right eye and they'd be freaked
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    out but you can have some blood painted
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    on your chin like on your neck like it's
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    dripping I saw a commercial yesterday
  • 13:54
    from dull no sense to clip it because
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    it's only text on the screen
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    masks are worn by superheroes and they
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    show of course first responders and
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    nurses and doctors there is there's
  • 14:09
    another part to it perhaps and it's it's
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    purely about the response
  • 14:15
    an NBC of all of all they published a
  • 14:20
    poll of which country scores best with
  • 14:24
    their citizens as it pertains to their
  • 14:29
    response to the corona virus outbreak
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    and if you look at the list and remember
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    NBC who do you think is the number one
  • 14:36
    country with coronavirus response
  • 14:39
    ranking according to well this global
  • 14:41
    law survey NBC mate would probably pick
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    China yup 86 Vietnam was 77 then we get
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    UAE India Malaysia New Zealand Taiwan
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    Philippines Indonesia Singapore South
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    America Australia Germany then we get
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    the United States where Sweden under
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    this Sweden is of course not on the list
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    but that no well that's interesting
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    isn't it that brings up something else
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    and I do it oh do you want to get back
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    to to the opening up stuff remember
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    Apple released their data of how many
  • 15:20
    times people requested directions on the
  • 15:23
    Apple Maps app which a lot of people
  • 15:26
    emailed me saying hey man just because
  • 15:28
    they're you're publishing that doesn't
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    mean that tracking is not your personal
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    information it doesn't matter the
  • 15:33
    promise was you share nothing you're
  • 15:35
    sharing something you're sharing me
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    touching my screen I don't like that but
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    anyway they publish this data so I go
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    and look and you can see it's really
  • 15:44
    about mobility so that guests they say
  • 15:46
    if you ask for directions you were going
  • 15:48
    to travel they claimed they didn't track
  • 15:50
    that part in these numbers and you see
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    everybody has an L it's the famous L
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    drops down goes boo boo doubloon and
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    idea it starts to tail up a little bit
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    and you can drill down by cunt like in
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    the United States you can drill down by
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    state go to Sweden there's an L it's not
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    true that they didn't do anything they
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    definitely had a significant - fifty
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    percent in transit activity they weren't
  • 16:18
    locked up at home though that's what
  • 16:19
    makes it different and people did it and
  • 16:22
    I know a lot of companies did that so
  • 16:24
    you know I'm we're not out of the woods
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    on
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    this was a good idea or not particularly
  • 16:31
    now that New York has seen 60% of all
  • 16:34
    transmissions occurred where in the home
  • 16:38
    people at home giving each other
  • 16:42
    coronavirus so it might not have been
  • 16:44
    such a good idea anyway there's a reason
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    why and it's gone full-on political so
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    I'm not too worried about coronavirus
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    anymore I mean yes people will still die
  • 16:55
    there will be putt we're doing a lot of
  • 16:56
    testing so you see lots of positives we
  • 16:59
    have no idea if people are being marked
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    up is truly dead from kovat 19 or not
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    doesn't matter it's B everything's
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    politicized now so there's clearly no
  • 17:07
    one else in Washington certainly is
  • 17:09
    worried about it but we have all this
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    this these things coming out now all of
  • 17:16
    a sudden we have a report that was MIT
  • 17:19
    that wasn't a report it was a draft
  • 17:22
    created inside the habit here
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    it was the Harvard Public Health Harvard
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    Bloomberg public school no I'm saying it
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    wrong John Hopkins Hopkins Bloomberg
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    School of Public Health the same guys
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    who did event 201 somehow some internal
  • 17:48
    document from one guy who's himself says
  • 17:51
    in the Washington Post he has no idea
  • 17:53
    how that draft model which was not by
  • 17:57
    any means done or ready for publication
  • 17:59
    or even the model wasn't completed how
  • 18:02
    that got leaked to the Washington Post
  • 18:05
    he doesn't understand this the mutant
  • 18:08
    strain memo no no this is this is the
  • 18:11
    model that Johns Hopkins Bloomberg to
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    the Washington Post that says the true
  • 18:18
    deaths will be 200,000 in the United
  • 18:20
    States by the end of June so everyone
  • 18:23
    started freaking out and it was all
  • 18:25
    that's all it was Monday and all that
  • 18:27
    everyone's going nuts they're like oh we
  • 18:30
    can't open up and stop protesting and
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    Jake Tapper does I mean leading the
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    witness
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    has Michigan Governor Whitmer who of
  • 18:40
    course had huge protests she's very
  • 18:41
    unpopular she's been doing all kind of
  • 18:44
    crazy things telling people they can't
  • 18:45
    buy certain things and stores has to be
  • 18:48
    roped off but just it's nuts
  • 18:50
    so Jake Tapper wants her to describe the
  • 18:53
    citizens who came to protest outside of
  • 18:56
    I guess the state the state capitol
  • 18:58
    ordered her man the governor's mansion
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    but listen to how he frames the question
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    is disgusting these protests came after
  • 19:05
    President Trump tweeted liberate
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    Michigan he tweeted quote the governor
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    of Michigan should give a little put out
  • 19:11
    the fire he said that these are very
  • 19:13
    good people about the protesters that
  • 19:16
    were featured in the video to which the
  • 19:17
    executive director of the Jewish
  • 19:19
    Democratic Council of America Haley so
  • 19:22
    far who's from Lansing Michigan she
  • 19:24
    compared those comments to president
  • 19:26
    Trump referring to those marching
  • 19:29
    alongside neo-nazis in Charlottesville
  • 19:31
    as very fine people is that how you see
  • 19:34
    these protesters in that vein and that
  • 19:36
    extreme can you believe that question
  • 19:40
    that guy is the debt is the douchiest
  • 19:43
    question you could possibly ask and
  • 19:45
    here's her answer and he knows that the
  • 19:47
    debt very fine people thing relating it
  • 19:50
    to Charlotte is just pathetic
  • 19:52
    that's exactly what he was going for
  • 19:54
    phil has very fine people don't tell me
  • 20:00
    is that isn't that come on come on
  • 20:02
    Whitmer is that how you see these people
  • 20:04
    don't you think in that extreme well
  • 20:08
    some of the outrageousness of what
  • 20:10
    happened at our Capitol this week you
  • 20:13
    know depicted some of the worst racism
  • 20:15
    and awful parts of our history in this
  • 20:19
    country sure the Confederate flags and
  • 20:21
    nooses the swastikas the you know
  • 20:25
    behavior that you've seen in all of the
  • 20:28
    clips is not representative of who we
  • 20:30
    are no I didn't see any nooses and
  • 20:35
    swastikas please show me evidence of
  • 20:37
    this horrible it's just horrible there's
  • 20:41
    any swastikas it would have been a
  • 20:42
    reference to her exactly no serious yes
  • 20:46
    I
  • 20:46
    but this is exactly what the Nazis did
  • 20:49
    they locked everybody up took away their
  • 20:51
    livelihood bankrupted the small the
  • 20:53
    small businesses now maybe they're just
  • 20:57
    using a couple of tactics but yeah so
  • 20:59
    anyway back to that to the bogut of
  • 21:01
    report it was so bad that secretary of
  • 21:05
    human health and services a czar had to
  • 21:08
    come on fox and friends go into the
  • 21:10
    friendly trenches to disclaim it which i
  • 21:13
    think he did a really poor job of yeah
  • 21:16
    mr. secretary the other question
  • 21:17
    obviously this morning and many
  • 21:18
    Americans are waking up and wondering
  • 21:20
    about is are these various news reports
  • 21:22
    suggesting there's at least a draft
  • 21:24
    report from CDC FEMA officials and
  • 21:26
    others predicting that you and others in
  • 21:28
    the White House the administration have
  • 21:30
    to prepare for the possibility of up to
  • 21:32
    two hundred thousand deaths of Americans
  • 21:35
    by June 1st that there's going to be
  • 21:37
    3,000 deaths a day it's going to be
  • 21:39
    rising is that true have you seen such a
  • 21:42
    report and if it's not true what are you
  • 21:45
    preparing for sir so I've not seen that
  • 21:47
    report I've heard about it obviously
  • 21:49
    this is there are hundreds of models
  • 21:51
    that are it was in The Washington Post I
  • 21:54
    find that to be an insufficient answer I
  • 21:57
    haven't seen it yet dude it was the
  • 21:59
    front page of The Washington Post
  • 22:00
    bad answer so I think it was
  • 22:03
    refrigerated hasn't seen that literally
  • 22:05
    have the reported as hands I know but it
  • 22:08
    just like it comes across as weak you
  • 22:12
    know it didn't didn't bother you that
  • 22:13
    the way minute I didn't hear anything
  • 22:15
    negative about that don't let him finish
  • 22:17
    so I've not seen that report I've heard
  • 22:19
    about it obviously this is there are
  • 22:21
    hundreds of models that are drafted up
  • 22:23
    to look at various contingencies out in
  • 22:26
    the private public health world as well
  • 22:29
    as within our agencies this apparently
  • 22:30
    is a draft modeling report of various
  • 22:33
    contingencies prepared by Johns Hopkins
  • 22:36
    this was not reviewed by the White House
  • 22:38
    or senior leadership or the Task Force
  • 22:41
    the president's recommendations on
  • 22:43
    reopening the American economy are based
  • 22:46
    on the soundest scientific evidence and
  • 22:48
    modeling and forecasting not draft
  • 22:52
    initial projections that just are
  • 22:54
    floating out there see what the problem
  • 22:56
    I have with this is that
  • 22:59
    I don't understand how any citizen this
  • 23:01
    is probably the same around the world
  • 23:02
    with these experts and and the and the
  • 23:05
    leaders of these different departments
  • 23:07
    it's very difficult for me to follow
  • 23:10
    what the numbers are and what the model
  • 23:13
    is and it's okay if you change it but
  • 23:15
    stick to one and say here's them don't
  • 23:18
    tell me there's all kinds of models
  • 23:20
    floating out there that we may pick from
  • 23:22
    this one or that one I don't want to
  • 23:23
    hear that what are the numbers
  • 23:25
    why does CDC have different kovat 19
  • 23:28
    deaths versus the so-called 67,000 I
  • 23:32
    don't even know where to find those
  • 23:33
    numbers anymore that chart has just been
  • 23:34
    given away it's bullcrap you're all full
  • 23:38
    of crap when it comes to these models
  • 23:41
    no obviously to add insult to add insult
  • 23:47
    to this Neil Ferguson the man behind the
  • 23:51
    original we're all gonna die two million
  • 23:53
    deaths in America model the man
  • 23:54
    responsible for millions of cattle being
  • 23:57
    unnecessarily killed during Hooven mouth
  • 24:03
    disease who was wrong every single time
  • 24:05
    by a factor 10 on all of the crises but
  • 24:09
    still we used his model Neil Ferguson
  • 24:11
    resigned from the advisory group because
  • 24:15
    he broke the lockdown rules in the UK
  • 24:18
    because he knows his bullcrap it's
  • 24:21
    unbelievable you know I broke the
  • 24:23
    lockdown rules right yeah because he had
  • 24:25
    a date with his his tinder girlfriend I
  • 24:28
    know it makes it that's very British of
  • 24:31
    course you know if it's a scandal it's
  • 24:33
    always about his penis oh we're good at
  • 24:34
    that here too but what's nicer the work
  • 24:38
    that has been done independently is a
  • 24:40
    code review of Ferguson's model as you
  • 24:45
    recall this model the 2-million model
  • 24:48
    later revised to 200,000 to 80,000 to
  • 24:50
    60,000 now apparently revised back up
  • 24:52
    who knows what was created using
  • 24:56
    thirteen-year-old undocumented code so
  • 25:00
    the lockdown skeptics which is a group
  • 25:04
    you can find at I think it's locked
  • 25:06
    locked locked down skeptics calm just
  • 25:08
    check
  • 25:10
    org they did a code review a
  • 25:13
    professional code review of what they
  • 25:16
    could and this is such a piece of crap
  • 25:19
    they can't even run it on a multi-core
  • 25:21
    process you have to run it in single
  • 25:23
    thread mode otherwise it doesn't work
  • 25:27
    with the same inputs outputs are not
  • 25:31
    repeatable or Purdue or reproducible no
  • 25:34
    regression testing after changes the
  • 25:39
    whole thing makes no sense
  • 25:40
    it's very poorly developed and you can
  • 25:44
    read it for yourself I mean anything I
  • 25:46
    say will go too deep for most and I'll
  • 25:48
    just sound foolish but these guys seem
  • 25:51
    like they're pretty Pro and then the one
  • 25:53
    thing I can do is I can look up a word
  • 25:56
    it says because they this group went
  • 25:59
    back and forth with the Imperial College
  • 26:01
    reviewing the software and they said
  • 26:04
    well you know it's really intended to
  • 26:06
    often provide as very stochastic results
  • 26:10
    like what is stochastic do you know have
  • 26:17
    you heard of the word
  • 26:18
    kostik yeah it's a very it's used all
  • 26:20
    the time in computer science randomly
  • 26:22
    determined so the results are randomly
  • 26:27
    determined they say it right in black
  • 26:28
    and white you have to remember it Bill
  • 26:33
    Gates is behind this I'm not sure what
  • 26:40
    it means but okay mr. coder luckily dr.
  • 26:47
    Drew is is still on the scene we know he
  • 26:50
    is on foul she sphere squad but he still
  • 26:53
    has his own opinion and one of our
  • 26:55
    producers handed over three short clips
  • 26:56
    worth listening to the first one regards
  • 26:59
    outdoor transmission of the virus dr.
  • 27:02
    drew
  • 27:02
    research has shown there's been only one
  • 27:04
    documented case that was in China of
  • 27:06
    outdoor transmission all other cases
  • 27:08
    have been indoor transmission which is
  • 27:11
    interesting there's also good evidence
  • 27:13
    that the virus dies very quickly out in
  • 27:18
    sunlight so outdoor looks like a safe
  • 27:20
    place for us to be but we shouldn't be
  • 27:22
    outdoors without masks and we shouldn't
  • 27:24
    be outdoors shoulder-to-shoulder so then
  • 27:26
    that seems stupid to be doing that and
  • 27:27
    that seems silly to me
  • 27:29
    uh-huh thank you very much masks
  • 27:32
    outdoors everybody don't walk
  • 27:34
    shoulder-to-shoulder tell us about
  • 27:36
    shutting down drew what kind of
  • 27:38
    experience do you have with that what is
  • 27:40
    this all based on does it really work is
  • 27:42
    it the way to go I mean it seems like
  • 27:44
    everyone got infected at home the idea
  • 27:46
    of shutting everybody down is a new idea
  • 27:50
    that was developed in the 2006 Bush
  • 27:53
    administration provisional plan on
  • 27:56
    pandemics based on a high-school
  • 27:58
    students science project so the idea
  • 28:01
    that this is the way to go shutting
  • 28:03
    everything down is is not true it's not
  • 28:06
    scientifically true it may be superior
  • 28:09
    but we don't know yet
  • 28:11
    so it may just be that when we go back
  • 28:13
    to masks and social distancing in the
  • 28:15
    world
  • 28:16
    there will be no uptick in the cases so
  • 28:18
    this idea of a second wave may never
  • 28:20
    happen that we will have some uptick
  • 28:22
    some little outbreaks but the idea will
  • 28:24
    be to isolate and contain those
  • 28:28
    outbreaks
  • 28:29
    okay there you go never been proven
  • 28:33
    never been tested I'm kind of interested
  • 28:35
    you know as we move into the next phase
  • 28:37
    of tracking and tracing we're supposed
  • 28:41
    to learn things from that and I have not
  • 28:43
    seen one report about South Korea if
  • 28:46
    they've learned anything I would have
  • 28:50
    expected some kind of information coming
  • 28:52
    back by now but we continue with dr.
  • 28:55
    drew final clip here about social
  • 28:57
    distancing that one's nervous because
  • 29:01
    people are beginning to pile out of
  • 29:03
    their their isolation but you gotta
  • 29:05
    remember we don't know that isolation is
  • 29:08
    superior to social distancing we don't
  • 29:11
    know that now isolation certainly
  • 29:13
    superior to nothing but they've never
  • 29:15
    studied the difference between social
  • 29:17
    distancing and masks done properly and
  • 29:19
    quarantine never been done so we will
  • 29:22
    find out soon enough
  • 29:25
    [Music]
  • 29:26
    well I want to go back to what you were
  • 29:28
    talking about with these models okay
  • 29:30
    there seems to be a this is Chi I don't
  • 29:35
    know when it changed or how it changed
  • 29:37
    and I'd have a sense it has something to
  • 29:39
    do with the way they're gonna keep us on
  • 29:41
    the global warming tract yeah that well
  • 29:44
    that's got to come but we have to keep
  • 29:46
    all focused on impeaching Trump with
  • 29:49
    more important to get impious of course
  • 29:51
    but if you remember the last I think
  • 29:54
    it's probably the last three or maybe
  • 29:56
    even the last four or five hurricanes
  • 29:59
    when they showed the the predictions
  • 30:02
    nowadays they don't just show a
  • 30:04
    prediction they used to always do that
  • 30:06
    the news guys would rather guy here's
  • 30:07
    what's predicted to do know now they
  • 30:09
    show about 30 tracks and they show them
  • 30:13
    on the screen on the weather screen they
  • 30:15
    sir that could do this it could do that
  • 30:16
    it could yes mighty says it's gonna do
  • 30:18
    that yeah the Western alliance of
  • 30:21
    weather caster says he's gonna do this
  • 30:23
    and they have all these different
  • 30:24
    companies that's what that's what the
  • 30:26
    one where Trump took one of the things
  • 30:28
    that's gotta hit in Atlanta right
  • 30:30
    remember that model that was the Sharpie
  • 30:34
    model and so you have all these models
  • 30:36
    now and they're scrolling around all
  • 30:39
    over the map it's there's a couple of
  • 30:41
    things that says to me one is that this
  • 30:43
    has changed we've never seen anything
  • 30:45
    like this before and they could have
  • 30:46
    been doing this for a long time but they
  • 30:48
    haven't they just started recently it's
  • 30:50
    because and I think global warming's got
  • 30:52
    something to do with it because there's
  • 30:53
    a lot of models and and they don't
  • 30:54
    nobody wants to talk about the Russian
  • 30:56
    model which we've talked about an
  • 30:58
    emphasize which seems seems to be
  • 31:00
    tracking are very mild increase in
  • 31:01
    temperatures and this is got nothing to
  • 31:03
    do with much of anything but they're
  • 31:05
    getting to the point where they're gonna
  • 31:06
    do this because they can did now there's
  • 31:08
    no responsibility right well that was
  • 31:12
    one of the models yeah
  • 31:13
    well that was one of the most well
  • 31:15
    that's not them yeah well there was 30
  • 31:17
    models and gray this is the one that
  • 31:18
    happened there's always the the model
  • 31:20
    always works as the is the least complex
  • 31:23
    when it's a simple one but they it's
  • 31:27
    just solving themselves have any
  • 31:29
    responsibilities are the models models
  • 31:31
    well along with social distancing has
  • 31:34
    come something new which is also
  • 31:38
    excepted and that social censorship and
  • 31:40
    I just coined that myself I don't know
  • 31:43
    if anyone ever thought of it but that's
  • 31:44
    really what we're witnessing where there
  • 31:47
    is a social agreement
  • 31:49
    apparently that certain types of
  • 31:52
    information should be censored because
  • 31:55
    it's very dangerous in in our current
  • 31:57
    climate because we need to listen to the
  • 31:59
    experts with their multiple models this
  • 32:03
    is why David Icke has been completely
  • 32:05
    removed over an interview in where and
  • 32:10
    I've watched it I've watched all of his
  • 32:12
    interviews and clips from it well let's
  • 32:14
    go through that and I'll just preface
  • 32:17
    this by saying what Google and YouTube
  • 32:20
    and I think Spotify Spotify removed the
  • 32:26
    David Icke podcast
  • 32:28
    Oh boohoo this thank God we made that
  • 32:31
    shit open people you really think you
  • 32:33
    can you can silence people by kicking
  • 32:35
    them off Spotify and it looks really
  • 32:37
    dumb Spotify but they're all making the
  • 32:40
    AOL mistake America Online was safe
  • 32:43
    you're safe with us well we'll give you
  • 32:46
    this little window with a crappy browser
  • 32:48
    to that scary Internet but you really
  • 32:50
    don't want to go there stay with us use
  • 32:52
    a keyword that's what they're trying to
  • 32:54
    do is trying to keep people safe and it
  • 32:55
    doesn't work people want to go out they
  • 32:57
    want a bit they want to find out crazy
  • 32:59
    stuff they need alternative information
  • 33:01
    so they're going to leave these
  • 33:02
    platforms anyway social censorship
  • 33:05
    that's in full play like yeah like your
  • 33:07
    little theory there like that may even
  • 33:09
    be a show title I'll flip over this
  • 33:11
    perfectly folded sheet and write it down
  • 33:14
    oh it's the shownotes side of the page
  • 33:16
    very lovely lovely now Mike talks about
  • 33:21
    let's go over some of this I only have
  • 33:24
    them 5g think that's interesting but
  • 33:26
    then I have another only have two clips
  • 33:28
    so we're not gonna bore people stuff
  • 33:29
    with David Icke but David Ickes whole
  • 33:32
    thing he goes on and on for about an
  • 33:34
    hour but it would everything we talked
  • 33:35
    about on this show yeah pretty much it's
  • 33:38
    not it's nothing new or even I mean it's
  • 33:41
    interesting on the show but we talked
  • 33:43
    about in the show months ago and it's so
  • 33:45
    it's kind of like oh geez David where
  • 33:47
    you been everybody ever listen to no
  • 33:49
    agenda
  • 33:50
    and then he does his little crazy stuff
  • 33:52
    with this five Gina the five G thing is
  • 33:54
    also misinterpreted he never says to
  • 33:57
    everyone like because there was
  • 33:58
    something that went around about five
  • 33:59
    g's gonna trigger the corona it's out
  • 34:01
    there and then the five G hits and you
  • 34:03
    get it no he's saying that five G is is
  • 34:06
    going to make people sick and Corona
  • 34:08
    coincidentally can be used as the excuse
  • 34:11
    oh they're sick because of Corona not
  • 34:12
    because of 5g but I'll play this clip
  • 34:15
    this is david icke of comm story 5g a
  • 34:18
    government sensor called Ofcom Office of
  • 34:22
    Communications
  • 34:23
    which is the regulator of British
  • 34:27
    broadcasters they have said and it's
  • 34:31
    it's run by a lady called Melanie doors
  • 34:35
    and we need to note these names down
  • 34:38
    ladies and gentlemen and when we're
  • 34:40
    through this at some at some level
  • 34:43
    through it these people have to be
  • 34:45
    called to account we have a situation
  • 34:48
    where this lady and her organization
  • 34:51
    which is a government department has
  • 34:53
    told British broadcasters and of course
  • 34:57
    they've complied spineless ly as usual
  • 35:00
    that they will face serious sanctions if
  • 35:04
    they allow any discussion on their
  • 35:07
    television stations and radio stations
  • 35:10
    about any connection between 5g and
  • 35:14
    so-called copied 19 the British
  • 35:17
    government through this other idiot the
  • 35:20
    health secretary Matt Hancock you know
  • 35:23
    people are sitting there all over the
  • 35:25
    house is 66 million people in this
  • 35:26
    country oh shit near me else in doing as
  • 35:29
    I'm told
  • 35:30
    because this this guy you you wouldn't
  • 35:32
    let run a you know a Lego house Hancock
  • 35:37
    he's saying that everyone must do that I
  • 35:39
    mean what are we doing anyway
  • 35:41
    people like him are now saying to the
  • 35:45
    the Giants of Silicon Valley years aku
  • 35:49
    Berg's at Facebook your Bryn's and pages
  • 35:53
    at Google and you know which house keys
  • 35:55
    at Google owned YouTube etc that they
  • 35:58
    should ban people who are making a
  • 36:02
    connection between Phi
  • 36:04
    gee and this co bid nineteen crisis so
  • 36:08
    that tells you one they couldn't care
  • 36:12
    less about freedom and the right to free
  • 36:16
    debate thus they have no right to be in
  • 36:19
    government and no right to be running a
  • 36:22
    broadcast regulator but he told you
  • 36:24
    something else
  • 36:25
    number two it tells you there is a link
  • 36:29
    between Phi G and this health crisis
  • 36:33
    there's only one reason they don't want
  • 36:36
    it discussed because there is a link and
  • 36:39
    who's been promoting Phi G and the
  • 36:42
    rollout of Phi G who runs the licenses
  • 36:45
    for Phi G Ofcom same woman in a
  • 36:52
    different interview he went a little bit
  • 36:54
    more in depth than ID and I looked up
  • 36:55
    the studies and what he claims and the
  • 36:59
    claim is correct I don't know if it is
  • 37:01
    true for five G depending on the
  • 37:04
    frequencies power etc but indeed effects
  • 37:08
    of electromagnetic field exposure can
  • 37:12
    create oxidative stress and acts
  • 37:16
    antioxidant defense system issues and I
  • 37:20
    he talked about it in this one to go to
  • 37:22
    this one
  • 37:22
    and said it's completely valid that and
  • 37:25
    and the thing with these theories which
  • 37:27
    is always with Ike it's always the case
  • 37:29
    if you listen to what doctors are saying
  • 37:31
    people are turning blue it's like
  • 37:33
    they're not getting enough oxygen I
  • 37:35
    think we had a clip of that ER doctor in
  • 37:37
    New York who said to me it looked like
  • 37:39
    someone was at you know 20,000 feet
  • 37:42
    without oxygen and they were just
  • 37:44
    literally dying because of a lack of
  • 37:46
    oxygen in their lungs and in their blood
  • 37:48
    and so that could be that absolutely if
  • 37:52
    someone's immune system is compromised
  • 37:54
    and there's a 5g tower next door and
  • 37:56
    possibly I don't know but it's certainly
  • 37:59
    he I don't think he ever said
  • 38:01
    coronavirus is caused by 5g but it
  • 38:04
    doesn't matter no he never says that it
  • 38:06
    doesn't matter its social censorship if
  • 38:08
    it if it deviates at all it must be
  • 38:10
    eliminated yes I'm I'm I'm gall wood
  • 38:14
    this is why our show existed
  • 38:16
    of course let's play the let's play the
  • 38:18
    other one which is DVID I get left there
  • 38:21
    sorry this is this is an interesting
  • 38:24
    clip because I hate gives me an anecdote
  • 38:26
    I can I can talk about this David Icke
  • 38:29
    towers going up while this lockdown has
  • 38:32
    been going on I know from communications
  • 38:35
    to to me and Gaz and Jamie at some David
  • 38:39
    Wright comm I know from all the postings
  • 38:42
    on the Internet not just in Britain but
  • 38:45
    around the world in America but while
  • 38:48
    this lockdown has been going on 5g masts
  • 38:53
    are being rolled out at a very rapid
  • 38:58
    rate in the same period of this lockdown
  • 39:01
    something like another 21 towns and
  • 39:03
    cities have been opened in Britain - 5 g
  • 39:06
    a5 G is being rolled out all over the
  • 39:13
    world at a very great rate of knots this
  • 39:16
    is a time where everything is supposed
  • 39:17
    to be stopped yeah and they're still
  • 39:19
    building towers overnight yes because
  • 39:23
    that's considered yeah yeah we okay so I
  • 39:29
    saw one row up here right like five
  • 39:32
    minutes from our house I was like what
  • 39:34
    that's new well Mimi drove down from
  • 39:37
    Washington last I guess Monday but no
  • 39:43
    but maybe you last Friday I'm not read
  • 39:45
    one of these days before it's been
  • 39:48
    around because traffic is just there's
  • 39:50
    no traffic and go back before it yeah so
  • 39:52
    she comes down this last time and she
  • 39:54
    says holy crap all I saw coming down
  • 39:57
    were people putting up 5g towers yeah
  • 39:59
    all along a highway us interstate 5 yeah
  • 40:03
    well and you know when you think about
  • 40:06
    it and they are of course essential
  • 40:09
    personnel this is infrastructure it's a
  • 40:11
    great time from the do anything what
  • 40:13
    they should be doing is fixing the
  • 40:14
    potholes that's what I've been waiting
  • 40:16
    for
  • 40:17
    oh yeah no pothole fixing whatsoever
  • 40:21
    see that that would have endeared the
  • 40:24
    community but no but no but no but no so
  • 40:28
    so Ike effectively really D platformed
  • 40:32
    it just and you're right that's that's
  • 40:33
    why our show is here and we're
  • 40:35
    completely independent and thank God we
  • 40:36
    don't have to rely on a youtube or
  • 40:38
    anything else like that and in that and
  • 40:40
    I gotta say bitch shoot some of these
  • 40:43
    you know be that all these different
  • 40:45
    alternative video sites they're that
  • 40:47
    they're winning with this they're
  • 40:49
    gaining well we'll see what if this is a
  • 40:52
    good strategy for them but I think that
  • 40:53
    when you it's one thing to have your
  • 40:55
    people you know to socially censor
  • 40:59
    content on your platforms when people
  • 41:02
    are running their regular lives but when
  • 41:04
    they're at home all day you know they
  • 41:06
    start to wander then they're not
  • 41:09
    entirely your slaves anymore they're
  • 41:11
    thinking for themselves maybe a little
  • 41:13
    bit so not one but the point is you
  • 41:16
    can't start taking this stuff down I
  • 41:17
    mean what's that they're just you're
  • 41:19
    gonna hurt you two-bit long term of
  • 41:21
    course you can't get advertisers anyway
  • 41:23
    but if the Russian car cam videos moved
  • 41:26
    to a separate platform boom and once the
  • 41:30
    cats are gone after that the cats
  • 41:31
    changed so that once the cats leave then
  • 41:33
    you got no platform left cats and car
  • 41:35
    crashes is that's the end funny moment
  • 41:37
    in West Virginia although it's kind of a
  • 41:40
    blue dress silver dress moment the
  • 41:42
    governor of West Virginia accused of an
  • 41:44
    expletive again I encourage all
  • 41:47
    businesses that are allowed to open to
  • 41:50
    do so only if they fucking follow the
  • 41:53
    guidelines to keep West Virginians safe
  • 41:55
    now he claims he didn't use an expletive
  • 42:00
    today at her news briefing there was an
  • 42:02
    audio glitch and it sounded like that I
  • 42:06
    had said a bad word a word that I was I
  • 42:10
    would never say nor have I ever said no
  • 42:14
    possibility in any way shape form or
  • 42:16
    fashion okay yeah
  • 42:18
    bullcrap but I there is a glitch and
  • 42:22
    that and you're allowed to say that when
  • 42:24
    it comes to audio there is an actual
  • 42:25
    glitch in that but it's after the F word
  • 42:27
    and I can't make anything outside of it
  • 42:30
    I don't know when then what was he
  • 42:32
    saying if it wasn't
  • 42:33
    I'll listen to it one more time again I
  • 42:35
    encourage all businesses that are
  • 42:37
    allowed to open to do so only if they
  • 42:41
    fucking follow the guidelines to keep
  • 42:43
    West Virginia safe I don't know at least
  • 42:49
    it gave us another five minutes of
  • 42:50
    entertainment you know this denial he
  • 42:55
    should just apologize for saying it I
  • 42:57
    think so too I just looked up I mean
  • 42:59
    this is the kind of thing I got yeah
  • 43:03
    yeah let's move over to pharmaceutical
  • 43:12
    stuff and the President did eight it was
  • 43:16
    a virtual town hall of the Lincoln
  • 43:18
    Memorial this was a Fox exclusive very
  • 43:22
    interesting setting I'm not quite like
  • 43:26
    what are you trying to say here hmm I
  • 43:29
    wonder
  • 43:30
    Trump Lincoln and you trying to connect
  • 43:32
    something here in my brain and he took
  • 43:35
    questions and you also took questions
  • 43:38
    from Martha and from Brett and the
  • 43:43
    question came up about the
  • 43:46
    pharmaceutical companies and the need
  • 43:49
    for them to be really you know we need
  • 43:52
    our medications our essential
  • 43:54
    medications created in the United States
  • 43:56
    maybe not in China or other countries
  • 43:58
    and so it was kind of a two-parter in
  • 44:01
    the second part I think she rattles the
  • 44:02
    president a bit and here's his part one
  • 44:04
    there's a lot of people who say why you
  • 44:06
    talk about making it here in America
  • 44:08
    why are all of the antibiotics made in
  • 44:11
    China can you give me a date by which we
  • 44:14
    will be self-sufficient in antibiotics