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1154: Goldfish Invasion

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 41m
July 11th, 2019
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Executive Producers: Jacobina Kunnen Dame Of the Doomesday Deniers, Sir Sean Fincham, Matthew Wilber, Anonymous

Associate Executive Producers: Knoxville TN Meetup, Sir Manischewitz, Vasilios Plangetis, Albert Pieter Jurgen Verheij, Sir Tim of the Tunnels, Baron Dick Bangs of DC, Eric Woerdeman, Baroness of Kendall, Sir Antonio of Madrid

Cover Art by Alexander Norrie

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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1:04
'The Loudest Voice' TV Show
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8:36
Jeffrey Epstein
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53:05
Invasive Goldfish Species Spotted in Canada
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56:31
Wall Street Journal: 'As the Deutsche Bank Turns'
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1:00:09
HF Radio Propagation Disrupted During Earthquake on US West Coast
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1:03:30
Credits
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1:26:15
Police Arrest Mother for Leaving Baby in Hot Car
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1:27:59
Judge Blocks Rule Requiring Drug Companies to List Prices in Television Advertisements
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1:30:55
Marijuana
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1:37:39
CNN Announces Rules for Next Democratic Presidential Debates
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1:40:44
Untitled
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1:42:12
American Descendants of Slavery
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1:45:54
Jeh Johnson on Illegal Immigration on Democracy Now!
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1:49:14
US Women Soccer Player Megan Rapinoe
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1:59:11
Marc Pritchard Keynote at Adcolor Reference
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2:06:51
Twitter Outage
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2:07:34
Donations
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2:16:59
Meetups
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2:18:28
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:20:50
Federal Appeals Court Rules Trump Violated the First Amendment by Blocking His Critics on Twitter
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2:22:49
Trump's Social Media Summit
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2:24:13
Sir Kim Darroch Resigns as UK's Ambassador to the US
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2:28:45
Untitled
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2:30:34
Untitled
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2:31:49
Christine Lagarde on Regulating Cryptocurrencies
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2:35:59
Tesla Fails to Pay Rent to Supercharging Station in Utah
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2:37:50
End of Show
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    you're a moron Adam curry this is no
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    agenda from northern Silicon Valley
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    where we're celebrating international
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    population day and the death of
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    Alexander Hamilton one down seven point
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    seven billion ago I'm John C Dvorak what
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    billion what people yeah all right
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    that's the population of the globe at
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    the moment oh yes so how do we celebrate
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    Alexander Hamilton's death he was shot
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    by Aaron Burr and Abdul and that's to be
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    celebrated well monetarist you are yes
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    exactly
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    before we get my side maybe before we
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    get into everything today I wanted to
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    bring people's attention to a brand new
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    series on Showtime which represents a
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    lot of what we discuss here in the show
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    and I don't know if you've seen this it
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    is the loudest voice
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    it is the story of Fox News and Roger
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    Ailes Roger Ailes played by Russell
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    Crowe yes who also looks like him and
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    put the makeup yeah it so you've seen it
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    no I've seen two trailers
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    oh my god Oh John this is it's basically
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    oh you want to understand what No Agenda
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    talks about watch this show it is
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    fantastic well I'll give you an example
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    when we talk about what's going on in
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    television you know we we joke about the
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    control room we know how that works how
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    the interruptions work how the
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    advertising works the commercials what
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    then what the news readers do you know
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    the it's and what they're there for and
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    what their role is to show it insofar as
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    the way we do behind the scenes yes the
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    behind the whenever we deconstruct media
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    we know exactly how it works yeah and
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    received several emails from people who
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    also have seen it and said oh now I get
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    it
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    for an example this is before Fox News
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    goes on-air they're rehearsing and Roger
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    Ailes has come up with this fantastic
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    idea for this new news quote news
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    station which have a clip of Russell
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    quote talking about in a moment and so
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    it's in the control room he's watching
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    the set and again these are just
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    rehearsal so they're not live on air yet
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    here's a clip alright let's look at
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    where we are
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    what's she wearing but is the Bulldog
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    rodeo in town or something was she
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    running pants why is she wearing - I
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    like legs anybody else like legs
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    I like legs
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    what the fuck is that Halloween is
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    orange so you know this is this is the
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    beginning of the legs on TV that Roger
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    Ailes brought us and yeah and he was
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    right because he knew what the audience
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    wanted and that's how it all works and
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    doesn't just have to be following me and
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    it's always been that way the funny
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    thing is everyone denies it or they go a
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    million but the in fact the would I
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    think it's the way they handle it I mean
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    I think women don't mind showing off
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    their legs but they don't like to be
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    told to show off their legs no of course
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    not and and you know and the guy that's
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    why Paula Zahn quit yes oh I forgot
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    about that now you know the Ailes of
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    course was also a creep and you know he
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    would have girls come in and audition
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    and out whirl around for me spin around
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    and I didn't pull that clip but here's
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    Russell Crowe talking about the
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    brilliance of Roger Ailes on Colbert the
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    seven o'clock bulletin with Shep Smith
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    he's just the news you know the rest of
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    the time it's opinion even though it's
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    cold Fox News oh I'm I would granted
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    that I mean I think Shep does a fine job
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    at the Brit bear does a fine job so uh
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    Wallace is a fine job on the Sundays
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    over on Fox but I mean when he was
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    putting it together one of the things
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    that's sort of shocking the other people
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    the other character is talking to in in
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    the in the first episode is his
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    willingness to make it look good make it
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    sound good to to make it something that
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    people will turn on regardless of what
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    the message necessarily is because some
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    people have their back up against his
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    willingness to turn it into
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    entertainment yeah well what he said he
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    was saying though is that you know
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    people don't really want to be informed
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    they don't want all of the details they
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    just want to feel informed that when I
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    think at some point and time in their
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    mind that they've got that covered
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    you know so he was playing into that but
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    also you've got to know that you know
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    Roger many many times over the years
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    said if he hadn't have had seen a
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    certain bias in media and Fox News could
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    have been the exact opposite because he
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    was looking for the open area of the
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    and it was in his estimation that CNN
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    that MSNBC CNBC you know cease ban ABC
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    NBC CBS The Times The Post
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    everybody had a left-leaning bent so to
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    him what was the vailable was a
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    conservative audience that was being
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    underserved and that proved to be very
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    true because now you have one single
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    news network which dominates half of the
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    available audience right well he's put
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    Fox News into an incredible situation
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    hasn't there mean that that is a
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    money-making machine they make two
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    billion dollars a year profit now that's
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    a hell of a thing when you think that
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    new services began with the
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    understanding that you would often use
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    as part of your broadcast but you did it
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    from a perspective of not needing or
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    requiring a profit so now you understand
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    why it works and why CNN and MSNBC have
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    lower ratings than Fox because they are
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    fighting for the same audience they're
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    fighting amongst themselves foxes by
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    themselves just all alone except for
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    something minor
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    since pretty much everyone noticed Fox's
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    dominance and what surprises me is that
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    nobody else has stepped up maybe there's
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    a couple that pull it back a little bit
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    yeah there's a couple trying one
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    American news I think is trying but it's
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    they're trying you said no one's trying
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    they're trying no I mean no one who with
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    any kind of clout hi Anna no the problem
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    I disagree the problem with one American
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    news is they're not showing legs all
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    they got is talking heads
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    that's what news is not on cable yes
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    this is on my cable you get one American
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    news on your cable I do huh yeah well I
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    mean it's also news max and what else is
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    a newsy news II geez
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    but yet if you want ratings you got to
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    show legs
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    it's just how it works
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    I don't understand why people don't
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    don't get it and also let's not be
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    hypocritical CNN tries they just don't
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    have good legs erin burnett loved erin
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    burnett
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    or used to she wanted kind of overboard
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    really odd but you know talking heads
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    anyway it's a great show the loudest
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    voice on showtime something to watch it
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    really is a series that was just a movie
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    no it's a series they've had two
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    episodes so far no idea how long it's
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    gonna take it seems like it would be a
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    seven or eight part just from where they
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    are in the story it depends whether they
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    get big always slow down the narrative
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    that's what you want to do if you got a
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    hit show we'll see Russell Crowe is
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    fantastic though really good lesbian
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    convention the Dyke off in town yeah
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    sorry it's just how it works and if you
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    think we're a bunch of sexist pricks
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    were just being television executives
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    that's how we'd deconstruct business to
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    an extent all right well I think we
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    should start with the Epstein thing
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    because that's what everybody is
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    interested in I don't know why because I
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    may be mentioned the newsletter that I
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    thought the Epstein thing was a
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    distraction of the week and I have some
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    doors now you
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    I have clips too but yeah what do you
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    got well do you have you must have some
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    back saying I have the Epstein report
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    the PBS kind of a rundown you can run
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    that let's do that let's start first of
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    all with this Epstein case his lawyers
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    are saying that their client believed
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    these girls were over 18 years old and
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    also he they are saying that this was
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    not child trafficking because in their
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    words there was no coercion and there
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    was no violence I want to ask you you're
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    also an attorney legally what is child
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    trafficking so under the federal law
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    there is no need to show force fraud or
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    coercion when it comes to the issue of
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    minors under the federal law
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    anyone who recruits patronizes solicits
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    a minor under the age of 18 for the
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    purposes of a commercials
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    act can be found guilty of trafficking a
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    commercial sex act is actually really
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    broadly defined under the federal law it
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    encompasses any sex act that's exchanged
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    for anything of value so under the facts
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    of this case as alleged it could
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    absolutely constitute a federal
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    anti-trafficking case right this is
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    interesting because it tells you that if
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    you pick up a streetwalker who's 17 and
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    you fly her to different the flyer you
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    didn't hear that if you pick up a
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    streetwalker and pay her for sex somehow
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    you're a sex trafficker hmm you'll do
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    flyer anywhere you don't have to even
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    put her in your car and walk off with
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    her oh you're just traffic you're try
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    okay yeah technically you're trafficking
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    that makes sense how you trafficking is
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    a streetwalker this is the problem with
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    prostitution in this country it's not on
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    television that's the problem with
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    prostitution well there's that but it
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    sounds like a bunch of bullcrap if you
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    ask me now let's listen to the I think I
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    have the three clip sex trafficking
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    clips what you want to gather way that
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    may be a repetition no I don't think so
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    let's start with these ends here these
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    are the laws that are applying here I I
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    have some kind of differing thoughts on
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    Epstein now after hearing the Acosta
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    talk about it in in a segment which I
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    believe was clipped out of the PBS news
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    hour but played on the radio mm-hmm
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    first I didn't record from the radio
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    think it was gonna be on TV and ever was
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    where he made a lot of reasonable
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    assumptions mm-hmm but this to me this
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    whole this whole thing is just a let's
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    find some other way to disturb and get
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    Trump yes correct correct I agree
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    nothing else there's no other reason for
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    but let's just the sex trafficking clips
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    I got three of them this is number one
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    well the that the one we just played was
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    the PBS one that was this is all PBS
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    with sex treads under sex trafficking
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    not an Epstein I understand but I just
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    oh I'm sorry
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    the clip I just played was sex
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    trafficking one it wasn't the Epstein
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    port I'm sorry oh okay well you heard
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    clip one which was the one I thought
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    that's wonder why I started where it did
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    well we missed the one I play it then
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    play the overview I don't think I said
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    well yeah well you can play the overview
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    and then we get back to this - well
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    Labor Secretary Alex Acosta is facing
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    new demands to quit his post tonight
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    over a plea deal he arranged with thin
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    and CEO Jeffrey Epstein in 2008 Acosta
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    was then a federal prosecutor in South
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    Florida and Epstein was accused of
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    molesting teenage girls the deal kept
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    Epstein out of federal prison but now
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    federal prosecutors in New York have
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    filed new charges today in the US Senate
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    Minority Leader Chuck Schumer joined
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    other top Democrats condemning Acosta I
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    am calling on secretary Acosta to resign
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    it is now impossible for anyone to have
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    confidence in secretary Acosta's ability
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    to lead the Department of Labor if he
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    refuses to resign president Trump should
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    fire him Acosta himself called Epstein's
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    alleged crimes horrific and said he
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    welcomes the new charges president Trump
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    in a meeting with the Emir of Qatar
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    promised to review the plea deal as he
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    defended Acosta whom he appointed to his
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    cabinet he's been a great really great
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    Secretary of Labor the rest of it we'll
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    have to look at will have to look at it
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    very carefully but he's talking about a
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    long time ago and again it was a
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    decision made I think not by him but by
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    a lot of people so we're gonna look at
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    it very carefully
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    also today Justice Department official
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    said Attorney General William bar will
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    stay out of reviewing the 2008 plea
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    agreement his former law firm
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    represented Epstein during that period
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    actually I have they could have a clip
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    of him talking about that yeah here it
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    is I'm recused from that matter because
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    one of the law one of the law firms that
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    represent that Epstein long ago was a
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    firm that I subsequently joined for a
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    period of time alright so he's he's not
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    he's recused but I'm sure he's managing
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    in the background so I apologize for
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    playing the clip out of order so let's
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    get back to sex trafficking then I have
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    a couple things we should look at well
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    let's start over then cuz it's only
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    fifty one seconds that start with sex
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    trafficking one so we get back to the
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    groove let's start first of all with
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    this Epstein case his lawyers are saying
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    that their client believed these girls
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    were over eighteen years old and also he
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    they are saying that this was not child
  • 14:26
    trafficking because in their words there
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    was no coercion and there was no
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    violence I want to ask you you're also
  • 14:32
    an attorney legally what is child
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    trafficking so under the federal law
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    there is no need to show force fraud or
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    coercion when it comes to the issue of
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    minors under the federal law
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    anyone who recruits patronizes solicits
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    a minor under the age of eighteen for
  • 14:50
    the purposes of a commercial sex act can
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    be found guilty of trafficking a
  • 14:54
    commercial sex active is actually really
  • 14:56
    broadly defined under the federal law it
  • 14:58
    encompasses any sex act that's exchanged
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    for anything of value so under the facts
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    of this case as alleged it could
  • 15:05
    absolutely constitute a federal
  • 15:07
    anti-trafficking case okay so now that I
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    heard it again
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    does it have to be a minor for it to be
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    trafficking in any case or did she say
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    at the end there doesn't even have to be
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    a minor know it for the for the purposes
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    of the generality she states here which
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    is that if you run into a 17 year old
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    hooker which is what I'm gonna use as
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    the example and you just solicit her for
  • 15:29
    sex right that's sex trafficking I
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    believe that if there were 18 or older
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    the rules for sex trafficking are
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    different okay gotcha all right to be
  • 15:44
    rather onerous because of the nature of
  • 15:47
    open prostitution in some certain areas
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    or to open in other words
  • 15:53
    streetwalkers we're talking about our
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    Vegas let's say any let's play sex
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    trafficking to for more clarification I
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    mean in this case we saw a man who his
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    friends even joked about that he liked
  • 16:05
    young girls I'm wondering how much of
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    this is in plain sight the problem of
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    child trafficking how much of this is a
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    cultural kind of ignorance or shrugging
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    off of a serious problem what's unique
  • 16:17
    about this case is the sheer amount of
  • 16:19
    attention that it's getting but it's not
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    unique in the dynamics that are alleged
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    we know that men who are powerful who
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    have an enormous amount of privilege
  • 16:30
    exploit the vulnerabilities of young
  • 16:32
    women and girls everyday here and
  • 16:34
    throughout the country what's
  • 16:37
    interesting about this case is that it's
  • 16:39
    getting an unbelievable amount of
  • 16:41
    attention but from our work on the
  • 16:43
    ground they're individuals much like
  • 16:46
    Jeffrey Epstein who are extraordinary
  • 16:48
    wealthy and powerful businessmen many of
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    them are actually white men who use that
  • 16:54
    power and privilege to exploit
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    vulnerable young women and girls oh it's
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    just white men okay that makes sense
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    yeah let's don't by the way if anyone
  • 17:05
    wants to read something maybe a counter
  • 17:07
    to this you might want to read the book
  • 17:08
    pimp by Iceberg Slim which we've
  • 17:13
    actually promoted on this show before
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    hmm so now all of a sudden we've taken a
  • 17:18
    twist here and we have turned this into
  • 17:21
    a white privilege yes situation white
  • 17:25
    guys and neither but rich rich and
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    privileged so in other words what and I
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    find that you know this to be I would
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    think insulting to the working man it's
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    not as those sailors the working class
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    the lower class they're all sailors are
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    all also not all John's dude who I'm
  • 17:46
    just saying just to say that all these
  • 17:49
    people are eliminated from the argument
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    because none of these people none of the
  • 17:52
    working class none of the sailors none
  • 17:54
    of the lower classes ever get involved
  • 17:57
    with prostitutes it's always the rich
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    against ours this is bullshit
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    yes it is I agree okay let's keep going
  • 18:09
    in this direction and wrap it up with
  • 18:11
    three channelize young women girls who
  • 18:14
    were runaways girls who had experienced
  • 18:17
    unstable homes maybe even girls from the
  • 18:19
    foster care system and that is
  • 18:21
    consistent with what we see in the young
  • 18:23
    women that we work with here locally I
  • 18:26
    think people sometimes imagine child sex
  • 18:28
    trafficking and happening in other
  • 18:29
    places to other girls not girls that
  • 18:32
    they know how are these girls being
  • 18:34
    lured in in these cases especially so
  • 18:36
    adults can be aware of the risks one of
  • 18:38
    the most important things to recognize
  • 18:40
    is that in the United States the vast
  • 18:42
    majority of sex trafficking cases
  • 18:44
    actually involve American citizens from
  • 18:46
    the federal data we know that upwards of
  • 18:48
    80% of all confirmed sex trafficking
  • 18:51
    cases involve US citizens and up to 40%
  • 18:54
    of those cases involve the sale of
  • 18:56
    children and so it's an incredibly
  • 18:58
    important American problem and one
  • 19:00
    that's happening in communities all
  • 19:02
    throughout the country I think that one
  • 19:05
    of the things that we're hoping comes to
  • 19:07
    light and that people are able to
  • 19:08
    connect the dots between the Epstein
  • 19:10
    case and child sex trafficking all
  • 19:12
    across this nation is that it's often
  • 19:15
    very powerful men with means taking
  • 19:18
    advantage of the vulnerabilities of some
  • 19:20
    of the most marginalized young women and
  • 19:21
    girls at least I didn't say podcasters
  • 19:24
    jeez well we can't afford it no so the
  • 19:30
    point is is that this is this is this
  • 19:32
    whole thing is now starting to look
  • 19:34
    pretty pretty fishy if you ask me and so
  • 19:36
    far as work they're pointing the finger
  • 19:38
    at the white man the privileged guy the
  • 19:40
    rich business guy and all the rest of it
  • 19:43
    and we're not just talking about you
  • 19:44
    know sex trafficking is any sort of
  • 19:46
    prostitution anything it's just it's
  • 19:49
    completely out of control and the net
  • 19:51
    nobody brings up the idea of a black
  • 19:55
    pimp which is a common huggie bear
  • 19:59
    person that that doesn't exist because
  • 20:03
    it's only the you know the privileged
  • 20:06
    the privileged to get the prostitutes at
  • 20:10
    any age apparently and everybody else is
  • 20:13
    just they're going to shaking their head
  • 20:15
    and shaming these these privileged few
  • 20:18
    white
  • 20:18
    businessmen usually the way that I find
  • 20:21
    that that whole conversation
  • 20:22
    conversation really steered away from
  • 20:27
    how horrific it is to do this to
  • 20:29
    underage girls they're just talking
  • 20:31
    about prostitution and any other just
  • 20:33
    mention a name a number but not about
  • 20:35
    the actual damage that when you're doing
  • 20:36
    this to a 15 or a 14 year old I mean
  • 20:39
    that you're right you are 100% correct
  • 20:41
    everything you saw on the news in the
  • 20:45
    media about this is distraction
  • 20:47
    what are they not talking about victims
  • 20:50
    they're not really actually talking on
  • 20:52
    the victims they're only interested in
  • 20:55
    Trump that would yes the media Acosta
  • 20:58
    and why do we have schumer coming out
  • 21:00
    demanding he quit the Labor Department's
  • 21:03
    got nothing to do with this case unless
  • 21:05
    you want to consider prostitutes labor
  • 21:07
    force CAD like they say that and then
  • 21:10
    you could get rid of him when it comes
  • 21:13
    as a conflict of interest when it comes
  • 21:15
    to elites in government in banking in
  • 21:19
    royalty and pedophilia I have some
  • 21:24
    standing with work I've done over the
  • 21:26
    past 20 years
  • 21:27
    well you had a radio station burned down
  • 21:29
    when I mentioned that the director the
  • 21:31
    Attorney General of the Netherlands at
  • 21:34
    the time who was who not only admitted
  • 21:36
    as much but also there was video graphic
  • 21:39
    evidence and eyewitness testimony that
  • 21:42
    he was sodomizing young Turkish boys and
  • 21:44
    had allowed himself to become blackmail
  • 21:48
    Abal inside the highest position of the
  • 21:51
    Department of Justice in the Netherlands
  • 21:52
    I merely discussed it with Mischa cut he
  • 21:56
    is the journalist who uncovered it and
  • 21:58
    yes
  • 21:59
    immediately one of the most high-powered
  • 22:02
    law firms came down on the station it
  • 22:05
    didn't literally burn to the ground but
  • 22:07
    they lost their licence lost their
  • 22:08
    funding and the station shut down so I
  • 22:12
    became very interested in these types of
  • 22:14
    cases yeah and why not
  • 22:17
    and of course it's fantastic to have a
  • 22:21
    guy like Acosta in the Trump
  • 22:23
    administration and to go get Trump but
  • 22:28
    why are they asking for Acosta to resign
  • 22:30
    that's what it is everywhere
  • 22:32
    even abuse the problem here and that's
  • 22:34
    why it cost a has to react tourism has
  • 22:36
    to resign because when you're a
  • 22:38
    prosecutor your job is not only to seek
  • 22:40
    justice for your asking the right
  • 22:42
    question the victims of a crime to
  • 22:44
    protect the community from their future
  • 22:47
    crimes act by doing giving him that
  • 22:49
    sweetheart deal he allowed these new
  • 22:52
    victims to be victimized but also to
  • 22:56
    have him in the position he's in now
  • 23:02
    like Alan Dershowitz should be on TV
  • 23:05
    right now while the kids you know weld
  • 23:07
    there's a lot of people there's not to
  • 23:09
    answer okay so they are calling for
  • 23:14
    resignations which makes no sense other
  • 23:17
    than that you might want this guy out of
  • 23:20
    the way maybe he knows something maybe
  • 23:23
    what really went down was a little bit
  • 23:26
    different than being portrayed so all
  • 23:28
    we're hearing on the news is Acosta
  • 23:30
    Trump Acosta Trump Trump best buddies
  • 23:32
    best buddies flew on the plane once I'm
  • 23:35
    absolutely I said this before and I'll
  • 23:37
    say it again and I wrote in the
  • 23:38
    newsletter and I haven't said it
  • 23:40
    specifically on the show and I'm working
  • 23:42
    on a another essay that is coming out
  • 23:44
    shortly that discusses this they are
  • 23:47
    trying to equate the creepy behavior of
  • 23:51
    Joe Biden and his kissing little girls
  • 23:54
    on the lips and hugging them and
  • 23:56
    whispering in their ears and just being
  • 23:58
    a creep to trump so they can do a
  • 24:02
    checklist I believe there's a checklist
  • 24:03
    out there that says whatever Biden did
  • 24:06
    bad Trump did worse but Biden did this
  • 24:09
    Trump's worse
  • 24:10
    Biden to this Trump's worse this is a
  • 24:12
    part of the whole scheme to get Biden
  • 24:15
    nominated I believe and they need to
  • 24:18
    smear Trump and all his buddies with the
  • 24:22
    guilt by association there's series of
  • 24:24
    photos everybody that just Lane Maxwell
  • 24:27
    ever had a photo taken with which
  • 24:30
    appears to be half the men in the
  • 24:32
    Western Hemisphere everybody they all
  • 24:35
    show these pictures of her with these
  • 24:37
    other people so they're obviously all
  • 24:38
    pedophiles and they're all related to
  • 24:40
    Trump and the whole thing is about I
  • 24:42
    believe still is about propping
  • 24:45
    Biden okay and I have a different
  • 24:47
    opinion that is what the news media is
  • 24:50
    doing what is actually going on is I
  • 24:52
    think something completely different and
  • 24:54
    I'd like you to go along into Adams mind
  • 24:56
    for a moment and just leave it open for
  • 24:59
    information and supposition and
  • 25:02
    conspiratorial thinking let's go back to
  • 25:06
    this original case it was a case that
  • 25:09
    was brought by the share the sheriff
  • 25:10
    found this out of the whatever at Palm
  • 25:13
    Beach County whatever it is took it to
  • 25:16
    the state attorney state attorney
  • 25:17
    wouldn't touch it that's when the feds
  • 25:19
    came in the feds like holy crap these
  • 25:22
    guys are gonna let the guy go so they
  • 25:23
    put a deal together then all of a sudden
  • 25:26
    there's word from hire hand and this is
  • 25:28
    in the documents that Epstein was
  • 25:30
    possibly you know the he would had
  • 25:32
    worked for the FBI he had done some
  • 25:34
    stuff please go easy on him - what
  • 25:37
    Acosta wrote and he's written a lot
  • 25:39
    about this he has a lot of legal
  • 25:41
    opinions he was very disappointed in how
  • 25:43
    it went down but there was literally in
  • 25:45
    a document that says he's have been very
  • 25:48
    helpful to the FBI take that into
  • 25:50
    consideration why you're thinking but
  • 25:53
    there's also a moment where somebody
  • 25:56
    told someone that he was a member of the
  • 25:58
    intelligence community we're gonna get
  • 26:00
    to that you're jumping way ahead to just
  • 26:03
    go along for the ride let's go back to
  • 26:06
    the woman who originally broke the story
  • 26:07
    Conchita Sarnoff she wrote an article
  • 26:10
    for Vanity Fair in which the editor had
  • 26:14
    a meeting with Epstein and cut out all
  • 26:17
    the salacious details of his sexual
  • 26:22
    abuse the timing of all of this is very
  • 26:26
    interesting it was 2002 when this came
  • 26:29
    to light but it wasn't until 2007 2008
  • 26:32
    very important years when the case went
  • 26:36
    to trial and when this non prosecutorial
  • 26:39
    agreement was put in place he or she is
  • 26:41
    explaining what was going on at the time
  • 26:43
    this is my my biggest question and I
  • 26:47
    don't understand why no one is pointing
  • 26:50
    fingers at
  • 26:51
    and actually explaining why berry
  • 26:54
    kerscher cut the deal that he cut the
  • 26:58
    owners fell on the state attorney's
  • 27:01
    office as you know after the chief of
  • 27:03
    police michael ritter whom i spoke to at
  • 27:05
    length for many many years since i
  • 27:07
    started the investigation back in 2009
  • 27:10
    ritter said to me many times i did not
  • 27:14
    accept crushers deal he wanted to charge
  • 27:18
    him with a misdemeanor no jail time no
  • 27:21
    restitution and no registration as a sex
  • 27:24
    offender then he took the case ritter
  • 27:27
    takes the case to the feds gene that's
  • 27:30
    yes Michael really the Palm Beach police
  • 27:32
    chief takes the case to the feds
  • 27:34
    that's when Acosta comes in that's not
  • 27:36
    until 2006
  • 27:38
    and so Acosta and his team with VF Anya
  • 27:42
    and others they start to investigate
  • 27:45
    that takes two years there's a 53 page
  • 27:48
    indictment against Epstein but what
  • 27:51
    happens well we're getting close to the
  • 27:53
    2008 presidential campaign Hillary
  • 27:56
    Clinton is the Democratic xuan at the
  • 27:58
    time President Obama was still not in in
  • 28:01
    the forefront at the forefront and so I
  • 28:04
    believe given the information that I
  • 28:07
    have and and what I've read that at the
  • 28:11
    very top of the food chain they did not
  • 28:13
    want to make as the Attorney General
  • 28:16
    said to me when I interviewed him
  • 28:17
    Alberto Gonzalez they did not want to
  • 28:19
    make a political mess so they basically
  • 28:22
    tapped Acosta again which is also why
  • 28:26
    they hired Ken Starr and Jay Lefkowitz
  • 28:29
    who were the lots of high-profile names
  • 28:32
    involved in this absolutely they were
  • 28:34
    the two attorneys who negotiated the
  • 28:37
    plea deal meaning the non-prosecution
  • 28:39
    agreement that was handed to Epstein
  • 28:42
    which by the way was not an order as a
  • 28:44
    cost to told me because I have been
  • 28:46
    speaking to Acosta for many years since
  • 28:48
    the original investigation and the
  • 28:50
    original arrests so you'll notice that
  • 28:52
    what you don't hear on the news is who
  • 28:56
    was Acosta reporting to who was above
  • 29:00
    him who was the boss well there were a
  • 29:01
    number of
  • 29:02
    people who were the boss Gonzalez was
  • 29:05
    was the boss and then we had Eric Holder
  • 29:08
    come in as the boss we had to extend
  • 29:10
    extended term for FBI director robert
  • 29:13
    muller who was in there so what the
  • 29:17
    original reporter here is saying is he
  • 29:20
    got some kind of notice from hire hand
  • 29:22
    because this would mess everything up
  • 29:24
    for Hillary which and I remember us
  • 29:26
    talking about this case back in those
  • 29:28
    days and and I think even the the flight
  • 29:32
    log was something that that had popped
  • 29:35
    up at that time but that became a
  • 29:37
    problem this is a true Bradley Edwards
  • 29:42
    he is the attorney for the victims he's
  • 29:45
    been on this case for a long time and
  • 29:47
    there's the case of the little black
  • 29:50
    book which was Epstein's you've probably
  • 29:52
    seen some some scans of it scan of a
  • 29:54
    scan of a scan did I do that sorry was
  • 30:00
    accidental a scan of a scan but it
  • 30:04
    contains a whole bunch of interesting
  • 30:05
    names this F this was great evidence but
  • 30:08
    it became toxic and the document you
  • 30:10
    mentioned a moment ago listing the
  • 30:11
    massages is that the little black book
  • 30:12
    that Grail that every you know I think
  • 30:14
    that's what you've heard too in the
  • 30:15
    documents right right exactly and that's
  • 30:17
    actually a document that his housekeeper
  • 30:20
    stole from him at some point in time and
  • 30:23
    a long story but eventually tried to
  • 30:25
    sell it to me and then I had to
  • 30:27
    cooperate with the FBI and yeah he gets
  • 30:30
    more time than Epstein does he got more
  • 30:32
    time and then I think he died as soon as
  • 30:33
    the very unfortunate he was one of the
  • 30:37
    only people that we talked to who showed
  • 30:39
    up to a deposition it was not
  • 30:40
    represented by a lawyer that was being
  • 30:42
    paid for by Jeffrey Epstein or he didn't
  • 30:45
    take the fifth like many of the other
  • 30:46
    witnesses willing to speak he was
  • 30:47
    willing to speak in willing to tell the
  • 30:49
    truth and then he just decided to do
  • 30:50
    something stupid and illegal yeah and
  • 30:54
    and ruined all of the the credibility
  • 30:56
    that came along with him I mean that was
  • 30:58
    one of the most unfortunate and sad
  • 30:59
    parts of the entire investigation so we
  • 31:02
    have the black book we have the flight
  • 31:04
    log you'll notice if you go to Bill
  • 31:06
    Clinton's wiki page that as he announced
  • 31:09
    that he had only been on Epstein's
  • 31:12
    airplane four times instead of the 27
  • 31:14
    times
  • 31:15
    in the flight logs written up by
  • 31:17
    different pilots and on different
  • 31:18
    aircraft because Epstein has a couple of
  • 31:20
    them not just totally Express yells at a
  • 31:22
    Gulfstream this black book contained a
  • 31:26
    lot of names and I just want to give you
  • 31:30
    a little rundown of the people in the
  • 31:32
    black book Janice Dickinson Joan Rivers
  • 31:35
    George Mitchell Michael Bloomberg Andrew
  • 31:38
    Cuomo Barbara Walters Alec Baldwin Ralph
  • 31:40
    Fiennes feein fiends George Hamilton
  • 31:43
    Dustin Hoffman Kevin Spacey Liz Hurley
  • 31:46
    Lauren Hutton Naomi Campbell Christy
  • 31:48
    Turlington Henry Kissinger Courtney Love
  • 31:50
    Mick Jagger Cornelia guest Phil Collins
  • 31:54
    eat suck Perlman Simon Lebon Charlie
  • 31:56
    Rose Richard Branson Candace Bushnell
  • 31:59
    Tom Ford Vera Wang Dershowitz Kissinger
  • 32:05
    Tony Blair Rupert Murdoch a hoot o
  • 32:08
    Olmert Leslie Wexner which is we'll get
  • 32:12
    to him in a second the Mort Zuckerman
  • 32:15
    Dennis Ross Bernard all rele levy that
  • 32:18
    asshole from France
  • 32:19
    Goldman Sachs strategist Abbey Joseph
  • 32:21
    Cohen President Bush I mean the list
  • 32:24
    killed Gorbachev Shimon Perez the list
  • 32:27
    goes on and on and on from my own
  • 32:30
    investigation over two decades I can
  • 32:33
    tell you there is without a doubt many
  • 32:35
    but maybe it a great into one or two
  • 32:39
    large ones paedophile networks of
  • 32:41
    powerful people and I know it sounds
  • 32:43
    really incredible to listen to but yes
  • 32:46
    there there are people who have so much
  • 32:48
    power money wealth standing that they
  • 32:51
    resort to this it's like an addiction
  • 32:53
    now as with any addiction it gets out of
  • 32:56
    control sex addiction is a real thing
  • 32:58
    now you get to this younger children sex
  • 33:00
    addiction it happens and it's used for
  • 33:03
    nefarious purposes in these circles
  • 33:05
    let's go to Acosta
  • 33:08
    Acosta's a press statement that he gave
  • 33:12
    yesterday regarding other individuals
  • 33:15
    who might have been involved I wanted to
  • 33:16
    ask him follow through your answer the
  • 33:18
    earlier question about the potential
  • 33:19
    co-conspirators were you confident at
  • 33:21
    the time that any potential additional
  • 33:23
    co-conspirators didn't commit sexual
  • 33:27
    abuses against
  • 33:28
    her age girls like Epstein did even if
  • 33:30
    it may have not have been same scale
  • 33:31
    because some of those victims have
  • 33:33
    accused others of doing similar acts to
  • 33:35
    them so um let me see how I can address
  • 33:40
    your question without running afoul of
  • 33:42
    Department of Justice guidelines okay so
  • 33:44
    he can't say stuff that's literally what
  • 33:47
    he's saying if my office had been aware
  • 33:54
    of individuals who committed acts such
  • 33:58
    as as a sexual abuse you know my office
  • 34:02
    it would not have been my position that
  • 34:05
    those individuals should have been part
  • 34:07
    of that kind of community
  • 34:10
    it's not even immunity should not have
  • 34:12
    been part of that paragraph and so so I
  • 34:15
    know that there are a lot of rumors
  • 34:17
    about who those individuals may or may
  • 34:19
    not be I think those rumors are
  • 34:23
    misconstruing the acts of the office
  • 34:25
    with respect to that particular
  • 34:27
    paragraph okay nice non-answer but we
  • 34:32
    all understand that he cannot talk about
  • 34:33
    other people involved let's go back to
  • 34:36
    the victim attorney Bradley Edwards who
  • 34:38
    was more than willing to talk to this
  • 34:41
    attorney and they didn't even have to be
  • 34:43
    deposed it was Donald Trump the only
  • 34:46
    thing that I can say about President
  • 34:48
    Trump is that he is the only person who
  • 34:52
    in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas
  • 34:55
    on a lot of people or at least gave
  • 34:58
    notice to some pretty connected people
  • 35:01
    that I was going that I wanted to talk
  • 35:03
    to them he is the only person who picked
  • 35:06
    up the phone and said let's just talk
  • 35:09
    I'll give you as much time as you want
  • 35:10
    I'll tell you what you need to know and
  • 35:12
    was very helpful in the information that
  • 35:14
    he gave and gave no indication
  • 35:16
    whatsoever that he was involved in
  • 35:19
    anything untoward whatsoever but had
  • 35:22
    good information that checked out and
  • 35:24
    that helped us and then we didn't have
  • 35:26
    to take a deposition of him I was in
  • 35:28
    2009 I was in 2009 so 2009 Trump is
  • 35:31
    already very happy to talk to this
  • 35:33
    attorney about what he knows about
  • 35:35
    Epstein apparently was very helpful
  • 35:38
    I don't think Trump is very worried
  • 35:40
    doesn't seem like the kind of guy who
  • 35:41
    would do this if he was really
  • 35:43
    incredibly worried about being
  • 35:44
    implicated in anything in fact I don't
  • 35:46
    think he's this kind of guy he's got a
  • 35:47
    whole bunch of other issues but I don't
  • 35:49
    think this is one of them
  • 35:51
    one person interestingly enough who has
  • 35:53
    been all over the big question which is
  • 35:55
    not even addressed is who is Jeffrey
  • 35:59
    Epstein it everyone says billionaire
  • 36:01
    financed year
  • 36:03
    well shit I'm a finance year to our kids
  • 36:05
    here's 20 bucks I'm a financier is he a
  • 36:08
    hedge fund manager well no one really
  • 36:10
    has seen any trades not quite sure
  • 36:13
    where's his money coming from so
  • 36:16
    originally les Wexner who owns all the
  • 36:20
    Elle brands that was kind of his guy and
  • 36:23
    in fact I think he even bought the
  • 36:25
    mansion in New York was originally from
  • 36:27
    les Wexner and the the secondary guy who
  • 36:31
    comes along into Epstein's life who was
  • 36:34
    no you know had no track record as a
  • 36:37
    trader no Wall Street experience but all
  • 36:39
    of a sudden here he is financier to the
  • 36:41
    rich and famous
  • 36:42
    Steve Hoffenberg Steve Hoffenberg is the
  • 36:45
    guy who showed him the ropes and Epstein
  • 36:47
    was in business with him and although he
  • 36:51
    the Epstein was very lucky because
  • 36:53
    Hoffenberg before Bernie Madoff had the
  • 36:57
    was convicted of the largest Ponzi
  • 36:59
    scheme in history at the time four
  • 37:01
    hundred and seventy five million dollars
  • 37:03
    and they also took away a lot of
  • 37:06
    Epstein's liquid cash to do whatever he
  • 37:09
    was doing the person who's been on this
  • 37:11
    and understanding who Jeffrey Epstein
  • 37:13
    really is would you're not being you're
  • 37:15
    not no one's investigating it's just a
  • 37:17
    family yeah just a rich guy billionaire
  • 37:19
    hedge fund manager bullshit no one knows
  • 37:21
    the guy on the street and Coulter
  • 37:23
    actually has been all over this I think
  • 37:25
    the most interesting things two things
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    about this case are number one where's
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    Jeffrey Epstein get his money my theory
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    but my theory doesn't account for it all
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    we know it's not because he's investing
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    money even you know a high school math
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    teacher this guy wexner grads know
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    you're a genius and suddenly the amount
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    of real estate and private planes this
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    guy has it is billions of dollars
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    you're not privately investing anything
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    without ever you know moving the market
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    this that is clearly untrue my theory
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    was that he was the concierge of this
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    underage sex club so to speak and locked
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    and some wealthy men paid for this but
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    you know this is kind of a niche sexual
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    fetish how many billionaires we have
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    here which means me and and let me throw
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    the other second thing that I think is
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    very interesting about this case Epstein
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    according to both the girls accounts he
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    wanted them to have sex with powerful
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    men come back to him and report on it
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    describe when they wanted what their
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    fetishes were and he had cameras
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    throughout the house so this is
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    obviously for blackmailing purposes it
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    just seems to me there is a bigger
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    something much bigger is behind this
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    perhaps a state sponsor powerful enough
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    people for as the evidence I described
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    for the original state charge forget to
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    you know Democrat Democrat Republicans
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    doing that whatever it just seems to me
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    there was something
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    very powerful force behind what's going
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    on here and I am still nervous about
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    this not coming to a conclusion man I
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    agree with the Ann Coulter certainly
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    when you see the way the conversation is
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    being steered so it appears to me the
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    Jeffrey Epstein is the kind of guy and
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    this wouldn't be the first in history
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    but has throws parties it's all great
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    we're all it's a great time we know how
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    he recruited the girls this is you know
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    this is now open knowledge everybody
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    come on down to the island let's hang
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    out let's party maybe you can hang out
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    with these girls and then after let's
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    just take Bill Clinton as an example
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    maybe he finds a 15 14 year-old very
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    attractive he has a good time with her
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    and then maybe a week or two later
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    Epstein calls and says bill man oh I
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    just found out that you know that girl
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    that you um that you hung it out with it
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    the island dude she's 15 but but but you