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1153: Pink Pound

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 46m
July 7th, 2019
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Executive Producers: Sir John Overall "Knight Runner", Sir Don Silva

Associate Executive Producers: Chris Black

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Start of Show
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Big Earthquakes Hits Western Coast of North America
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9:35
Nike's Market Cap Rises by $3 Billion After Betsy Ross Flag Shoe Controversy
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26:50
NewsBusters: 'Liberal Media's False Doomsday Predictions for the Salute to America'
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28:51
July 4th Military Parade
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34:33
Jeffrey Epstein Arrested for Sex Trafficking of Minors
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39:45
Trump Considers Executive Order on Census Citizenship Question
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44:28
NPR: 'Former Census Director: Citizenship Question To Hurt 2020 Accuracy'
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49:06
Joe Biden Alleges Russia Didn't Meddle in Elections on 'His Watch'
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51:44
United States Win by 2-0 Against the Netherlands in FIFA Women's World Cup Finale
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54:18
Mastodon Blog: 'Statement on Gab's Fork of Mastodon'
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1:08:20
Credits
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1:24:04
JCD's Disinterest in Discussing Race & Reparations
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1:25:04
American Descendants of Slavery
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1:31:58
Kamala Harris' Keynote at Essence Power Stage
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1:39:14
The Black Census Project
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1:48:58
2020 Elections
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1:51:20
'Active Measures' Movie
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1:54:23
Noam Chomsky Calls Mueller Report "A Gift for Trump" During Democracy Now! Special
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1:55:42
Campaign Finance Reform
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1:58:07
Ebola Vaccine Manufacturer Enters Agreement to Increase Number of Stockpiled Doses
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2:09:17
Donations
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2:16:32
Birthdays
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2:16:56
Meetups
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2:21:37
Tapes of First Moonwalk Put Up For Auction by Former NASA Intern
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2:28:29
Sam Harris on 'Industrial Society and Its Future'
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2:31:30
Heat Wave Hits Canada & Alaska
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2:32:16
MAD Magazine is Ceasing Publication of Regular Issues
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2:35:44
Over 60 Victims of Gun Violence During July 4th Weekend in Chicago
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2:36:45
California Governor Gavin Newsom: "San Francisco Rose From the Asses of a Phoenix"
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2:37:25
'Love Island' TV Show Debuts in US
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2:40:51
End of Show
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    he's going down this is no agenda it's
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    60 and we've been having 98 days here
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    it's been freezing all July yeah well
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    yesterday our air conditioner went up oh
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    okay alright Dvorak it's what I could
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    afford on the donations we get okay I'm
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    surprised you can afford to buy anything
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    so first of all let's just start with
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    important news how was your experience
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    with the quake
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    did you like no quake you didn't feel
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    anything
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    you know this is the funny thing this is
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    the classic you know there's some fires
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    like if you know a hundred miles from
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    here
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    you guys okay oh yeah look I'm just
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    saying that people in Vegas felt the
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    quake yeah they sure they did yeah yeah
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    well feeling the quake is just like some
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    just little a little nothing it's not
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    you know I suppose you could feel it
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    that's because the quake was closer to
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    Vegas than it was to Los Angeles I don't
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    can't get over these okay oh oh Southern
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    California Southern California this is
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    the middle of the Mojave Desert no it's
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    150 miles minimum from Los Angeles this
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    is like for me having a quake and having
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    its you know
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    Sacramento to San Francisco Bay Area is
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    90 miles 150 miles is another 60 miles
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    further okay it's ridiculous that people
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    are making this okay it's just asked
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    okay
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    can i litter you did you touch the nerve
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    I did get on Twitter and Rach tweet
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    about it is very peculiar that you never
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    heard about which I have a clip oh well
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    this is going on there's been quakes up
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    in Canada around BC I get the BC quakes
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    clip three earthquakes rattled the BC
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    coast today all of them significant and
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    all of them classified by seismologists
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    as aftershocks to a quake that hit
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    earlier this week on Wednesday so that
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    quake here was a magnitude 6.2 felt
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    hundreds of kilometres away and here
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    early this morning there was a 4.7 a 5.6
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    and a 4.6 all within the space of about
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    10 minutes and all that comes less than
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    a day after another quake an unrelated
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    one rocking Southern California it's a
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    reminder that on the west coast bad news
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    can always be right around the corner so
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    this is Jesus and you Fletcher explorers
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    just how prepared we are restrike food
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    its pre built survival kits its water
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    filtration or storage this for example
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    is our Xenia platen cells earthquake
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    hits at the total prepare store in
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    Victoria she says sales tend to go up
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    every time there's a significant
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    earthquake yeah we've been seeing a bit
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    more foot traffic and a few more phonons
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    with questions and things all my traffic
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    sticked up a little bit yeah there's
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    quick cirhappy it stems from the series
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    of morning after shocks off BC Central
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    Coast enough to jolt some out of bed you
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    know since they changed the the scale we
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    really have no idea what it means
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    because I recall the the Washington DC
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    quake no yeah I was there um yeah it was
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    it cracked the Washington Monument what
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    do mean you don't remember this question
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    I remember the cracking of the
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    Washington Monument yes so didn't we
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    just see what what cuz I remember that
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    one I wonder these quakes down in the
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    Mojave they showed us some videos and
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    this some of those videos are pretty
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    violent yes of the store say and I'm
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    thinking this was supposed to be a 6 2
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    or is this the 5 5 7 1 7
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    one is what they said it was seven once
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    bothersome that that they change well
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    I'm looking at the August 23rd 2011
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    magnitude 5.8 earthquake now does this
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    before they changed to the new momentum
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    it changed for years and years well this
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    is eight years ago so I'm asking was it
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    like I think it's still after the change
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    it changes but I said the 5.8 was pretty
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    significant I remember that one I was
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    there so a seven point one doesn't
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    change yeah we've talked about it for
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    all Z we haven't talked about we bitch
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    about it constantly so you have a six
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    point two in BCE area it's off the coast
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    but that doesn't mean anything compared
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    to we just useless the thing that is
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    interesting is the location of these
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    quakes in California it's not the San
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    Andreas Fault
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    no it's nowhere near it is right near
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    the actually not it's almost on the
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    China Lake weapons test site yes I'd
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    love to say it what are we doing there
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    are we testing the earthquake machine
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    again or did you guys bore too many's up
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    too many tunnel see the DC thing I kind
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    of understood you with all the secret
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    train tunnels everywhere and some even
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    claim that they've you know tunnels the
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    trains that go all the way to Colorado
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    to the yeah the backup site yeah we've
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    heard this we don't know if it's true
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    but if you start drilling around in the
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    earth yeah you know you can get stuff
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    going back II look at the northern part
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    of Holland throwning it that's because
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    of this fracking right that's because of
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    fracking yeah yeah so anyway control up
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    there in that Holland area where the
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    fracking is just going no there's
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    nothing nothing nothing like a SEP
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    nothing like this seven point what I
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    spoke to people in California who you
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    know I lived in Los Angeles I lose in
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    San Francisco I don't think I've really
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    witnessed any earthquakes when I was in
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    San Francisco and Los Angeles several
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    and yeah you get real blase man whatever
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    is a quakes fine well you witnessed some
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    you still get boys a but the people I
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    spoke to were like
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    this was a little more than then the
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    blase type feeling some people were
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    rattled by this one well there were a
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    lot of people were rattled by the 89
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    remember this story but with PC
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    computing was a major player back in
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    1989 with a Loma Prieta earthquake and
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    which hit the peninsula quite hard
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    most of the peninsula and it hit the bay
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    area in general and it was a and but
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    people who've never experienced any sort
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    of earthquake there's a low note with a
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    big quake uh-huh that is disconcerning
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    it really shake is a Bolton rattler and
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    it makes you very uneasy and there was a
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    whole bunch of people who were from New
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    York that were in the offices a piece of
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    computing on that day and they flew out
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    as fast as they just get out god it
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    sounds funny they would refuse to come
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    to California after that and it had to
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    be because the effect of this low note
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    that occurs in many it's like ground
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    loop resonance it's a horrible light it
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    goes through your bones because it is a
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    vibration that your body gets in tune
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    with yeah it's a harmonic vibration
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    residence it's the one that they use to
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    kill people
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    yeah the who you wait a minute who uses
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    that to kill people with well we have
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    the evidence that there's been weapons
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    developed that developed like a five
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    cycle node or something at very high
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    frequencies and it shakes people and
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    kills them blows up your liver or
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    something like that oh wait I think I
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    have an example of it I know hey it's
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    it's July what can I tell you I don't
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    have that oh yeah here it is this is the
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    one okay everybody get ready we're going
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    to kill you
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    that's another problem this energy chime
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    [Music]
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    we can kill you with that one for sure
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    definitely gets your attention
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    anyway anyway I'm always bothered by
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    these California State as the state as I
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    got into 800 miles long or something and
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    it's isn't something happens in
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    California it really only affects a very
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    small area of the giant state
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    yes giant state so you're not worried
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    about anything happening up there are
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    you no I think still think the big the
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    big whopper that's gonna be dangerous is
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    supposed to hit Southern California
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    according to all the eggs oh it won't it
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    won't hit Northern California not know
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    the next one what eventually something's
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    gonna hit Northern California I'm lining
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    a backup host so I'm just want to get
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    you just gave you our net hey if anyone
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    could do this showing it quake it's me
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    yes if you live i'm nests yeah hey I
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    think we both may be wrong a rare
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    occasion well as we had to wait we
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    referring to the fish yeah the shoes out
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    of it I'm sorry go on no I'm not my
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    research has not stopped we have a small
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    disagreement John has the feeling that
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    Nike set up the controversy over the
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    Betsy Ross shoe with Kaepernick as a PR
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    stunt to sell more shoes Ivy immediately
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    disagree I believe it was blackmail that
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    they were shamed into doing this and
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    money might have been paid or it should
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    have been paid it was blackmail we both
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    agreed that if the shoes go on sale then
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    John would be correct if not I would be
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    correct I think we're both wrong and
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    that is based on a podcast because gosh
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    you can't get anything from the
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    mainstream I kept trying to find out who
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    actually brought this into the media and
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    again it's unnamed sources people
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    familiar with the matter from Associated
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    Press from PBS from The Wall Street
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    Journal all three of them reported on
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    this story none of them have any quotes
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    Nike did not mention Kaepernick in any
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    of their communications Kaepernick has
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    not publicly communicated anything
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    regarding the matter but of all people
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    Adam Carolla sometimes confused with me
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    the actual pod father does a podcast
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    with Mark Geragos and his client as we
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    discussed in the previous episode is
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    Colin Kaepernick copper Nick Kaepernick
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    amongst other prominent people like
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    Jesse small at so fine fine guy to do a
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    podcast where they do it it's called the
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    what is this podcast called it's called
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    reasonable doubt and Carolla asked Gera
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    go straight up what's going on with this
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    I would be wildly inconsistent if I
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    didn't scream at your boy Colin
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    Kaepernick for this how racist is that
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    sorry but you can't this is cracking me
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    up right away just say your boy Colin
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    Kaepernick unless he's not black I don't
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    know what's going on Corolla I would be
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    wildly inconsistent if I didn't scream
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    at your boy Colin Kaepernick for this
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    stupid Nike tweet but or whatever he did
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    by the interesting point the facts
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    straight
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    I know this but Geragos is gonna come in
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    and he has some interesting data points
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    how does that work why does Nike cave
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    why does he give a shit and what's going
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    on I'm asked I just saw an article that
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    Nike increased their market cap by three
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    billion dollars since dropping it now
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    he'll repeat this and we'll talk about
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    this maybe later but this was a meme
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    that was propagating very quickly Oh
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    Nike 3d they made three billion dollars
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    no one seems to understand what market
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    cap is about anymore so hey man they did
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    a good job they made three billion
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    dollars three billion dollars richer
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    everybody getting paid no the stock
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    price went up a percent like a point and
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    a half
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    oh so it's it's market cap value and it
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    can go down by five billion tomorrow but
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    this was it's interesting that this is
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    now brought up and let's explain just
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    short market cap is short for market
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    capitalization which is for all
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    practical purposes which has to be
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    separated from enterprise value which
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    people can do and they're digging look
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    that one up but market cap is if you
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    sold all if you took the stock today's
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    price of the stock and liquidated it at
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    that price at that moment that's what
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    that number is right and they're about a
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    hundred and eight billion dollars the
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    stock went up over over two days went up
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    about a point and a half it goes up it
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    goes down it goes up it goes down here
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    they won't report on you know the love
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    losing billions of dollars cuz that's
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    not what you do the only time it's
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    interesting is when someone hits the
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    trillion dollar market cap such as the
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    Apple and then you know they drop below
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    it and it's not like anyone made or lost
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    money except perhaps investors who play
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    the stock market we continue I'm asking
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    okay I just saw an article that Nike
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    increased their market cap by three
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    billion dollars since dropping it and I
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    my guess as to what happened he was free
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    by the way he's guessing he knows damn
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    well are you privy to any of this stuff
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    yes yes they showed they the shoe was
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    shown to him he he had expressed a
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    reservations about them using the shoe
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    they decided to drop it somebody at the
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    I assume in Nikes headquarters
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    apparently it gets gruntled somebody
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    decides they're going to leak it to I
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    want to say the Wall Street Journal now
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    this is interesting so he says he
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    presumes it was a disgruntled employee
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    no there was no mention in any of these
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    articles a disgruntled employee or
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    someone who was pissed off so he's
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    really making an assumption and I think
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    he's full of shit here and becomes a
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    firestorm all this week but like he has
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    the last laugh because I just looked
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    this morning and they put three billion
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    on the market cap while Under Armor
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    Adidas and Puma were all down
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    substantially in this market how does
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    the process work where they vet the shoe
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    with him you know he's the face of the
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    just do it 30 thirtieth anniversary
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    campaign and by the way as people people
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    with people I don't think understand
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    just about how effective that has been
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    they they know what they're doing I mean
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    they know who their demographic is their
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    demographic is not Ted Cruz and their
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    demographic is not you know that
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    governor why and I don't want to
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    mispronounce it is he trying to say the
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    demographic is black people what is he
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    trying to say
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    did he telling us who it's not douche a
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    or do she that's not that's not the
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    target demo the target demo are people
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    who who have a whoever viewpoint the
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    piece people have a viewpoint that's
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    their target
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    so social justice warriors suasion
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    here's here's what I want to say here's
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    my honest take on this I draw a great
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    distinction between stuff that is done
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    in public and stuff that is done in
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    private and I do again I draw a
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    distinction now I don't I don't like
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    that we live in a country where we vet
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    shoes with Kaepernick and then he gives
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    the thumbs down because they have 13
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    stars on it I don't like that that's
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    what our society has become but we're
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    living in it and if people are doing it
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    for publicity then I really don't like
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    it if the if the intent is to quietly go
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    about this and get on with our lives I
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    have a different viewpoint of the the
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    transaction and you are telling me that
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    they show it to him he gives notes and
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    then theoretically they quietly go back
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    and implement his notes without the
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    but like we would never know that this
  • 17:27
    shoe existed if this person from Nike
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    who is disgruntled didn't leak it it's
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    all I can plug connecting the dots
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    because he certainly there was no way
  • 17:38
    that he was the one who was saying that
  • 17:40
    or releasing that or anything else and
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    obviously you know the shoe was timed
  • 17:46
    for July 4th the the leak and the story
  • 17:50
    went viral because of the 4th of July
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    and and so that's I'm with you right in
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    terms of if it's done quietly look I've
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    got reservations about it which is
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    exactly what was done he certainly
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    wasn't the one who released it yeah I
  • 18:04
    got an idea for you to pitch me up so
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    he's talking about the leak I don't know
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    for sure it seems that the shoes were
  • 18:15
    already at retail yes that's what I
  • 18:18
    understand and because that's how
  • 18:20
    they're winding up on eBay yeah and that
  • 18:22
    would make no sense which is his basic
  • 18:25
    thesis is that the shoes were kept in
  • 18:27
    this one guy leaked them which is
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    obviously the case I would posit we
  • 18:34
    could use my was it's my word I would
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    say that I'm still sticking with my
  • 18:40
    original thesis but it's possible that
  • 18:44
    what could have been the fly in the
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    ointment with someone at the company
  • 18:48
    saying hey this looks if we bring out
  • 18:52
    these shoes on July the 4th this looks
  • 18:54
    like exploitation of the American flag
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    and this is not gonna go over we should
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    probably you know and they didn't they
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    decided to pull the shoes or do
  • 19:03
    something and then maybe bring them out
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    later and then maybe they blamed it on
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    Kaepernick I don't know who blamed it on
  • 19:09
    camera I think it's just I think if
  • 19:10
    there's a disgruntled employee the least
  • 19:14
    exactly why are they running a shoe idea
  • 19:18
    past him
  • 19:20
    John George on John's oper nigga see you
  • 19:23
    like this color John if you're gonna run
  • 19:26
    something past a guy whose ultimate
  • 19:31
    input can stop the shoe yet don't do
  • 19:35
    that when they're at retail so it's just
  • 19:38
    bullshit
  • 19:38
    happening may have nothing to do with it
  • 19:40
    I'm pretty sure he doesn't I think he's
  • 19:42
    been told to just shut up and you know
  • 19:44
    we'll do it take care of it later but
  • 19:46
    now let's look at this market cap
  • 19:48
    because this is what this story went
  • 19:49
    viral like Nike rakes in three billion
  • 19:53
    days okay so let's just take the
  • 19:55
    stupidity this the stupid interpretation
  • 19:59
    of that like it was a good thing for
  • 20:01
    them not to do this what does that mean
  • 20:05
    for future social justice movements by
  • 20:07
    this company or any other brand that has
  • 20:11
    something to say here's the idea
  • 20:16
    personally I don't think it means
  • 20:17
    anything is that it because well some
  • 20:19
    people were all jacked up about I don't
  • 20:20
    think the company killed one well yeah I
  • 20:22
    know but it goes up and down cons I'm
  • 20:24
    talking about perception this is what
  • 20:26
    people are this is this is the story now
  • 20:28
    the story is they understand it but it
  • 20:30
    did company themselves I don't think
  • 20:32
    you're missing my point
  • 20:34
    you're missing my point from a social
  • 20:36
    justice perspective would it now be in
  • 20:40
    Nikes true we know has nothing to do
  • 20:43
    really with market cap if people believe
  • 20:45
    that now so let's just leave it as it is
  • 20:46
    from a social justice warrior
  • 20:49
    perspective is it good or not good for
  • 20:51
    Nike to portray its brand values in its
  • 20:54
    product and it and in its advertising
  • 20:57
    based on the fact that the market cap
  • 20:59
    went up when they clearly showed their
  • 21:01
    brand values I don't know I would I
  • 21:05
    would say it makes a difference
  • 21:07
    personally oh you're being too literal
  • 21:09
    about it okay it's alright I'm trying
  • 21:14
    I'm trying to ask you a different
  • 21:15
    question and you just not understand
  • 21:17
    anyone I'm asking
  • 21:18
    well would you get certified okay so
  • 21:20
    forget you think that my Nikes gonna be
  • 21:23
    more reactive but Nike I'm talking about
  • 21:26
    people people will they now think we're
  • 21:28
    gonna give a shit about my Nikes market
  • 21:31
    cap I don't know I completely befuddled
  • 21:33
    by what you're trying to ask me okay
  • 21:35
    never mind
  • 21:36
    now actually I'm annoyed by the fact you
  • 21:38
    don't understand what I'm saying we know
  • 21:39
    the market cap is bullshit the
  • 21:41
    perception is they made three billion
  • 21:44
    dollars that's just the perception can
  • 21:45
    we just leave that as really the
  • 21:47
    perception amongst ayats I know who
  • 21:50
    who do you think I'm talking about will
  • 21:52
    the idiots make the claim that social
  • 21:55
    justice warriors or idiots all right yes
  • 21:59
    I am and here's Andrew Doyle writer and
  • 22:02
    comedian and gay man at the BBC
  • 22:04
    complaining about the social justice
  • 22:06
    warriors and the brand values who are
  • 22:10
    hijacking gayness and pride I think
  • 22:13
    we're all used to the idea of
  • 22:15
    corporations and companies cynically
  • 22:17
    exploiting gay people for a quick buck I
  • 22:19
    think we I think yeah absolutely it's
  • 22:20
    always been the pink pound you know it's
  • 22:22
    a longer ongoing thing I think now
  • 22:23
    what's happened though is there's a kind
  • 22:24
    of critical mass and I I completely take
  • 22:26
    on board what you're saying I think
  • 22:27
    though we have to accept that there is a
  • 22:28
    sense that this is diss slightly
  • 22:30
    distasteful this is a flag that after
  • 22:32
    all is related to activism and the
  • 22:34
    concept of pushing for equal rights and
  • 22:36
    now it is being manipulated as a kind of
  • 22:38
    a kind of indicator that you are good
  • 22:40
    that you are virtuous in your life -
  • 22:42
    that guy talks so fast of you if you
  • 22:46
    could get it you can't do it on the fly
  • 22:48
    obviously but if you could tweak his
  • 22:50
    vote his his Equalization so he's
  • 22:54
    because he would suddenly ben shapiro
  • 22:57
    a british gay ben shapiro there's a kind
  • 23:01
    of a kind of indicator that you are good
  • 23:03
    that you are virtuous and that you're on
  • 23:05
    the quote-unquote the right side of
  • 23:06
    history and that's not what it should be
  • 23:08
    about that's not what it should be
  • 23:09
    meaning and i think a lot of gay people
  • 23:11
    in particular are starting to feel that
  • 23:13
    this is misrepresenting what they stand
  • 23:15
    for them i know i went into a very
  • 23:16
    popular japanese chain and won't say
  • 23:18
    what it's called and the mats told me
  • 23:20
    that they weren't were proud that they
  • 23:21
    didn't discriminate against LGBT people
  • 23:23
    am i feeling about they lose well why
  • 23:25
    would you my default expectation is that
  • 23:27
    you wouldn't we don't live in a society
  • 23:28
    where that sort of thing is acceptable
  • 23:30
    and it reminds me of when people started
  • 23:32
    a campaign where they wore safety pins
  • 23:34
    to a broadcast idea that they're not
  • 23:36
    racist again I would assume you weren't
  • 23:39
    oh and I'd feel a lot more comfortable
  • 23:40
    about these corporations doing this if
  • 23:43
    for instance they'd have done the same
  • 23:44
    before the Equality Act in 2010 if
  • 23:46
    they've done the same at for section 28
  • 23:48
    was repealed in 2003 if their den
  • 23:50
    December before the age of consent was
  • 23:52
    equalized in 2001 we have to accept that
  • 23:54
    they've taken a market decision to to
  • 23:57
    make as much money as alkylated that
  • 23:59
    yeah I guess what I was getting at is
  • 24:03
    is the era of brand values and virtue
  • 24:06
    signaling those brand values which
  • 24:09
    really aren't their values or mission
  • 24:10
    statement but their marketing values is
  • 24:12
    that / or is it really just starting to
  • 24:15
    ramp up big and so on one hand I feel
  • 24:18
    that people feel vindicated by saying
  • 24:21
    see when you are social justice warrior
  • 24:24
    and I see then then you you win as a
  • 24:27
    company and here on the other side is
  • 24:30
    the BBC I'd like the term the pink pound
  • 24:33
    I thought that was a good term who this
  • 24:36
    guy's saying hey we're being exploited
  • 24:38
    and it's and it's disingenuous she get
  • 24:44
    in line yeah of course it is yeah but
  • 24:48
    where do you think I to me it sounds
  • 24:49
    like it's just on the cusp of getting
  • 24:51
    worse that's I guess that's what my
  • 24:52
    could be I mean it's possible it's not
  • 24:55
    gonna get better
  • 24:56
    I think these guys would look for it
  • 24:59
    would ever happen it would be like Oh
  • 25:01
    market cap went up that's great because
  • 25:02
    that means that we worked well the
  • 25:05
    market cap went down oh that's great
  • 25:07
    that shows that we have an effect yeah
  • 25:09
    you can't win with these people right by
  • 25:12
    the way I just safety-pin thing I forgot
  • 25:14
    about that I was thinking about we
  • 25:16
    follow
  • 25:16
    I remember we followed that movement I
  • 25:19
    remember the safety pin thing we talked
  • 25:21
    about it but I'm thinking I gotta get
  • 25:23
    everyone to send me lists of things like
  • 25:25
    this short term phenomenons that were
  • 25:28
    saddest and we've kind of even not even
  • 25:30
    noticed our fetish they were Gangnam
  • 25:33
    style I mean here's Katie Hopkins from
  • 25:38
    2016 or the report on the safety pins my
  • 25:41
    biggest rage this week has been about
  • 25:44
    safety pins and a race hate so I am sick
  • 25:48
    to death of hearing about a race hate in
  • 25:51
    the wake of the leave vote I think it's
  • 25:55
    entirely a conjecture that's been dreamt
  • 25:58
    up by sore losers from the remain
  • 26:02
    campaign in order to try and make it
  • 26:04
    sound like a race haters are people that
  • 26:08
    voted leave that we are thick that we
  • 26:11
    are stupid and that we are racist and
  • 26:13
    frankly we are not you may that's
  • 26:15
    interesting I
  • 26:16
    I've completely forgot that it happened
  • 26:18
    around the brexit vote so was a way to
  • 26:21
    it was a a way to virtue signal that
  • 26:25
    you're not a hater like all those brexit
  • 26:27
    tears where my safety pin we used to
  • 26:32
    wear safety pins as earrings back in the
  • 26:34
    70s and we'd have a safety pin if the
  • 26:38
    song had through your nose I had one of
  • 26:40
    my lapel it was it was all the rage
  • 26:44
    bloody meat let's talk briefly about the
  • 26:52
    fourth of July which was America's
  • 26:54
    celebration which it was a real dud
  • 26:59
    let's start with the the the compilation
  • 27:01
    just before the celebration from the m5m
  • 27:06
    who were pontificating about what they
  • 27:09
    expected it to be sorry did you know
  • 27:12
    that it took two million dollars away
  • 27:14
    from some from the National Parks yes
  • 27:17
    those bastards hijacked the nation's
  • 27:20
    previously non-partisan fourth of July
  • 27:21
    celebration justifying or is there
  • 27:24
    anything dangerous about it's just
  • 27:26
    obscene and the speech is going to be
  • 27:28
    dreadful they're gonna have their
  • 27:29
    Confederate flags flying license plates
  • 27:32
    and all kinds of troublemaking then look
  • 27:34
    here criticism of his critics you will
  • 27:37
    hear a celebration of self don't be a
  • 27:39
    lot of other people are gonna meet like
  • 27:40
    in a storm and you're gonna have a real
  • 27:43
    consoling there's all kinds of
  • 27:44
    catastrophes they're not sure if the
  • 27:46
    bridges over the Potomac can handle the
  • 27:48
    tanks he's hurting a traditionally
  • 27:50
    nonpartisan event into a Trump focused
  • 27:52
    campaign style rally sure looks like a
  • 27:55
    partisan re-election rally on public
  • 27:57
    space Donald Trump's campaign rally in
  • 27:59
    Washington paid for by the American
  • 28:02
    taxpayer I can't pay an event some kind
  • 28:05
    of a campaign speech a political rally
  • 28:07
    Hart is an event combination Trump rally
  • 28:10
    and Kim jong-un story close resemblance
  • 28:16
    to the chest-thumping displays put on by
  • 28:19
    authoritarian regimes this is a kind of
  • 28:21
    military display that we were used to
  • 28:24
    seeing from the Soviet Union
  • 28:25
    hunting in Red Square
  • 28:28
    North Korea Egypt the hope for violence
  • 28:30
    would be of course treasonous not to
  • 28:32
    expect it would be naive oh they were
  • 28:36
    also disappointed
  • 28:38
    these people are outta control by the
  • 28:42
    way I'm gonna give you a borderline pig
  • 28:43
    I know where you got that you stole you
  • 28:45
    that you didn't put it together now from
  • 28:52
    a production television production
  • 28:55
    standpoint what a piece of shit show
  • 28:58
    that was horrible head did no one think
  • 29:02
    that the ballistic glass would get wet
  • 29:05
    and looked like he was should start
  • 29:07
    singing the rhythm of the rain I mean it
  • 29:12
    was three for small what's the deal with
  • 29:15
    the ballistic glass that's new I have no
  • 29:19
    idea Boyle is just as one of those
  • 29:20
    situation where I guess I don't know is
  • 29:23
    the snipers secondarily secondarily if
  • 29:26
    you use the Lincoln Memorial as your
  • 29:29
    backdrop don't put people in front of
  • 29:32
    Lincoln you could not see Lincoln
  • 29:35
    sitting there the grand majestic shot
  • 29:37
    that it was supposed to be this was a
  • 29:40
    botch a total botch it looked like shit
  • 29:44
    there it made the president look very
  • 29:47
    weak behind this glass the you could not
  • 29:53
    see the statuesque Ness of the setting
  • 29:57
    the weather was sad I don't know if the
  • 30:00
    tanks didn't roll out because of the
  • 30:01
    weather no they were never intended to
  • 30:03
    roll out that was all that was all that
  • 30:06
    was all conjecture my MSNBC they're
  • 30:08
    gonna be rolling tank I did like seeing
  • 30:10
    the stealth bomber that was cool like
  • 30:13
    that thing that's I don't think I've
  • 30:14
    seen one fly that close to the ground
  • 30:17
    that's a beautiful place that was badass
  • 30:19
    yeah I think got the Blue Angels and
  • 30:21
    they did they're the little angels here
  • 30:24
    all the time I don't see what we got the
  • 30:26
    fleet week I mean they have them
  • 30:27
    whatever we cost more money than that
  • 30:29
    event did apparently every football game
  • 30:31
    we have these flyovers
  • 30:34
    but it really you know the speech was
  • 30:36
    very man III understand what he was
  • 30:40
    trying to do now luckily luckily he made
  • 30:44
    it a little bit more exciting with this
  • 30:46
    massive gas and seized victory from
  • 30:49
    Cornwallis of Yorktown our army man the
  • 30:53
    end it Rand the ramparts he took over
  • 30:57
    the airports it did everything it had to
  • 30:59
    do and I'm like did he say their ports
  • 31:06
    did I didn't just come out wrong no he
  • 31:09
    said the airport reports he said they
  • 31:11
    took over the airports now there's now
  • 31:14
    of course you know this was not his
  • 31:16
    fault as you can imagine number is
  • 31:20
    falling oh there was an excuse yeah the
  • 31:22
    teleprompter went out it kept going on
  • 31:24
    and then at the end it just went out it
  • 31:26
    went kaput so I could have said that and
  • 31:29
    actually right in the middle of that
  • 31:30
    sentence it went out and that's not a
  • 31:33
    good feeling
  • 31:34
    I guess the rain knocked out the
  • 31:35
    teleprompter so but no it's not that
  • 31:39
    I knew this speech very well so I was
  • 31:41
    able to do without a teleprompter but
  • 31:43
    the teleprompter did go out and it was
  • 31:47
    actually hard to look at anyway because
  • 31:48
    it was rain all over it you know well
  • 31:53
    I'm not buying it I'm not buying that I
  • 31:58
    don't know but here's what we're missing
  • 32:01
    it hit and this is something we cuz we
  • 32:02
    never I don't think we collected any
  • 32:04
    clips of this effect I'm pretty sure cuz
  • 32:08
    I don't remember him but I do remember
  • 32:10
    the moment where he rants and raves and
  • 32:13
    goes on and on and on about Obama and
  • 32:15
    his teleprompter
  • 32:16
    yes and then this and now we got him all
  • 32:20
    addicted to teleprompters out of the
  • 32:22
    blue bitches of you know teleprompters
  • 32:25
    are what they are but it's worse than
  • 32:26
    that
  • 32:27
    on whitehouse.gov it has his speech and
  • 32:33
    he says our army man the air it rammed
  • 32:36
    the ramparts it took over the airports
  • 32:38
    it did everything it had to do come on
  • 32:43
    I mean it's either in the prompter
  • 32:45
    correctly or it's not it's either in the
  • 32:47
    speech correctly or it's not he was
  • 32:50
    either sabotage but I doubt a little bit
  • 32:53
    of rain now it made Twitter fun cuz I
  • 33:01
    just love the memes now you have George
  • 33:04
    Washington in a you know fly trying to
  • 33:07
    board an airplane when you bring it up
  • 33:14
    as sabotage or is it done on purpose
  • 33:16
    sometimes you have to wonder I don't
  • 33:20
    think this was over he really wanted
  • 33:22
    this to be a great salute to the
  • 33:24
    military he loves all that stuff and he
  • 33:28
    was narrating the flyovers he wanted
  • 33:30
    this to be a great show the weather was
  • 33:32
    crap and the setting was crap was a shit
  • 33:35
    show it was horrible well I don't know
  • 33:37
    when where the other because I think I'm
  • 33:39
    like most people unless I was standing
  • 33:42
    there in the audience I never saw a
  • 33:44
    second of it I didn't see one second of
  • 33:47
    it was at the wrong time or this for the
  • 33:49
    West Coast I had other things to do for
  • 33:55
    the show yes I did I covered it for the
  • 33:58
    show I liked seeing I like seeing our
  • 34:02
    stealth bomb or I always yeah I'm an air
  • 34:04
    and air guy aircraft guys I'd like
  • 34:07
    seeing that now any all this unhinged
  • 34:10
    crap over to what it cost please give me
  • 34:12
    a break you know and now they're all
  • 34:14
    butthurt that he didn't they didn't go
  • 34:17
    off and make it into a campaign rally
  • 34:19
    and now they well I didn't clip because
  • 34:22
    I got bored of it but they were calling
  • 34:23
    it Schoolhouse Rock explanation of our
  • 34:25
    history okay fine who cares
  • 34:30
    it's a Gangnam style but then we get the
  • 34:33
    news drop in all of a sudden which
  • 34:35
    always seems to happen on show days
  • 34:36
    Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested on new
  • 34:39
    sex trafficking charges a source tells
  • 34:42
    CBS four federal agents took him into
  • 34:44
    custody yesterday at a New Jersey
  • 34:46
    Airport after he was indicted on one
  • 34:48
    count of sex trafficking and one count
  • 34:50
    of conspiracy to commit sex
  • 34:52
    trafficking federal agents also searched
  • 34:54
    his home Epstein has long faced
  • 34:57
    accusations of sexually abusing
  • 34:58
    underaged girls he'll be in court
  • 35:01
    tomorrow now this is going to have a
  • 35:04
    long tail well the thing is what
  • 35:07
    happened what changed what did they do
  • 35:09
    they to someone bust into his place and
  • 35:13
    grab the evidence against all these
  • 35:15
    highfalutin folk that could be you know
  • 35:18
    embarrassed by the Epstein revelations
  • 35:20
    which would definitely occur well
  • 35:22
    there's two things
  • 35:23
    there's something else that took place
  • 35:24
    last week and that was the unsealing of
  • 35:29
    all of these court cases which is about
  • 35:31
    two thousand documents one of which is
  • 35:35
    very very clearly in Deitz President
  • 35:38
    Trump then Donald J Trump the
  • 35:40
    businessman as a pedophile rapist the
  • 35:44
    man you know it's a it's a Jane Doe and
  • 35:46
    a Tiffany doe and I these are not being
  • 35:50
    relitigated there is apparently an two
  • 35:53
    new indictments against Epstein that
  • 35:56
    will be open to the public tomorrow but
  • 36:01
    you know the what you're reading on the
  • 36:04
    social media just to show you the
  • 36:07
    derangement is haha he's going down the
  • 36:09
    pedophile the headphones going down and
  • 36:12
    Acosta his lawyer who should go down
  • 36:14
    because the deal that that Jeffrey
  • 36:16
    Epstein got was clearly an elitist
  • 36:20
    bullcrap punishment this guy should be
  • 36:23
    behind bars for the rest of his life
  • 36:25
    with his cohorts uh what's the Maxwell
  • 36:29
    daughter she was the recruiter it all
  • 36:32
    ties into even I think it even ties into
  • 36:34
    that nexium sex cult it's a it's a mess
  • 36:38
    now he's Trump involved in it I don't
  • 36:41
    know it seems doesn't seem like his
  • 36:45
    style well I think he's not afraid of it
  • 36:48
    and I and I can I think this this shows
  • 36:51
    proof 2015 CPAC when he was being vetted
  • 36:55
    by the CPAC for the role of President
  • 36:59
    Sean Hannity asked him specifically
  • 37:01
    about Bill Clinton here was the answer
  • 37:04
    Bill Clinton a nice guy got a lot of
  • 37:09
    problems coming up in my opinion with
  • 37:10
    the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein a
  • 37:13
    lot of problem now
  • 37:15
    he wouldn't say that if he expected
  • 37:17
    himself to have a lot of problems I
  • 37:18
    would agree with that so who'd I mean
  • 37:22
    but he probably was the close enough to
  • 37:25
    the to it to know that Clinton has a lot
  • 37:27
    of problems yes and he was on the plane
  • 37:30
    or he's a he knew Epstein I I don't
  • 37:34
    think Trump was ever on the plane I
  • 37:36
    think he flew his own plane I'm pretty
  • 37:38
    sure he was there at least once oh yeah
  • 37:40
    you're probably right about that if he
  • 37:41
    ever went there why would he go on this
  • 37:46
    is one of those things where you want to
  • 37:48
    go to dinner with some friends and
  • 37:50
    there's a bunch of people gonna go oh
  • 37:51
    we'll pick you up now I'll take my own
  • 37:53
    car cuz I want I don't want to stay so
  • 37:55
    just to reiterate for people who are new
  • 37:57
    to the case Jeffrey Epstein very wealthy
  • 37:59
    hedge-fund manager he had a and he has I
  • 38:03
    think still an island and that's where
  • 38:06
    he allegedly flew underage girls down
  • 38:09
    there that were recruited and then they
  • 38:10
    would wind up having sex with with his
  • 38:14
    guests prince andrew has been implicated
  • 38:17
    who's the the prince from Monaco
  • 38:21
    whatever his name is
  • 38:23
    Grimaldi last name Grimaldi Bill Clinton
  • 38:27
    now there's a lot of Bill Clinton in
  • 38:29
    this he apparently took 25 or 26 trips
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    on Epstein's private as 737 airplane
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    known as the Lolita Express but this
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    would really come down to who who was
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    blackmail about and who do they have on
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    camera because that's the part that that
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    is interesting and all this paperwork is
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    Epstein had cameras everywhere
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    presumably to blackmail politicians and
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    other rich folk yeah it's a technique so
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    I personally don't think anything's
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    gonna come out of this except maybe
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    Epstein will go to jail for a long time
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    where he belongs but I don't think we're
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    gonna see anything massively interesting
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    come out of it I not gonna argue with
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    that ounce but I probably even the
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    Clinton stuff won't come out
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    we still have the opportunity for ya the
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    opportunity for what
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    well Bill's gettin old it bills time is
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    this the embarrassment that just goes a
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    little bit too far for the hag s hillary
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    assassination group that we kept
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    bringing this up and i'm not gonna bring
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    it up anymore so i take it you don't
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    have any clips or anything on this no I
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    have not I do have except good backing
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    up to the Trump flub okay I there was a
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    one of the big stories that was this
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    week was the census the census question
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    as to the yes are you a citizen of which
  • 39:59
    has become a scandalous question and so
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    I have two clips on this and and one of
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    them is funnier than the other but let's
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    start with the PBS version of this of
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    this story which is an important story
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    President Trump said he is considering
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    issuing an executive order to get a
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    citizenship question added to the 2020
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    US census this after the Supreme Court
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    ruling last week to block the federal
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    government from adding that question mr.
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    Trump spoke to reporters this morning
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    before he left for a weekend at his New
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    Jersey golf I don't like it when the
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    president says quote we're finding out
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    everything about everybody I don't like
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    that that's not what the census is
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    supposed to be it's very simple supposed
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    to be a head count but they've got it's
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    gotten carried away because they use it
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    as marketing information is what the
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    precise what it's used for
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    yes marketing you're so right it's juice
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    for marketing yeah alright so meanwhile
  • 41:18
    NBC decides to do a story on the census
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    story and now you have to listen to this
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    just complete presentation classic NBC
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    which is you know part of the MSNBC
  • 41:29
    operation the way around button the same
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    thing so why do they present now this is
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    a dis story specifically about the
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    census question and but listen to the
  • 41:41
    way that's presented and what which