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John C Dvorak: It's a mask is
wearing a mask. It's not Joe
Adam curry Jhansi Dvorak,
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media assassination episode 16
party.
Unknown: This is no agenda,
defeating di
Adam Curry: LLM, and
broadcasting live from the heart
of the country here in FEMA
Region number six. In the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're all
awaiting the State of the Union.
I'm John C. Dvorak
Unknown: and Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: The State of the
Union. There's prop bets for the
state of pads. Yes, hold on. I
wrote them down. Hold on a
second, they did a great the
prop bets for the State of the
Union. Okay. And so a prop bet
is, as you've explained to me,
basically opposition to promises
you come you can bet on
anything. So here are some of
the prop bets of the length. The
over under a 69.5 minutes.
John C Dvorak: That's pretty
long. I'm going under
Adam Curry: I would go under on
that. The number of non facts as
per WaPo fact checker blog over
under 11 and a half.
John C Dvorak: This is this a
dubious bet
Adam Curry: I go under on that I
go way under on that. But here's
here's the interesting ones. For
Biden, will any of these happen?
direct mention of Trump odds are
two to one to miss to miss name
a foreign leader or country? The
odds are three to one to say
senile or dementia three to one.
I don't believe that.
John C Dvorak: No, no, I would
bet Yes. But what do you say
that?
Adam Curry: Of course well, I'm
just hey, I don't have a I'm not
betting be I don't make them up
to direct
John C Dvorak: where you even
make these beds. Oh,
Adam Curry: I got the link.
There's a real bet real bedding
place? No,
John C Dvorak: I'm sure they're
real beds. I just don't know
where you'd make them.
Adam Curry: online. You can do
them online. To directly mention
Obama four to one to have a five
second brain freeze five second
brain freeze 10 to one odds to
confuse Trump with Obama 14 to
one and to confuse Nikki Haley
with anyone 20 to one and then
most mentions 10 to 13 odds on
the border three to one on
Ukraine. guns or gun 19 to four
security six to one. Let me see
Biden to refer to his own or
Trump's age odds are four to one
for yes and one to seven for no
and then we also have prop bets
on the State of the Union
response which will be brought
by Katie Britt and know exactly
John C Dvorak: bet on that and
no one will watch
Adam Curry: one to one odds on
cognitive one to one on radical
Islam. six to five on Mexico
says three to two on sleepy
communists two to one odds
senile nine to four dementia 11
to four woke my woke mind virus
nine to two odds and Antifa.
Five to one odds. So there's
money to be made. there's money
to be made. Yeah, you'd
John C Dvorak: have to have the
you know, the problem with it is
you if you had the speech in
advance, you can make these
bets. Oh, well, yeah. And I'm at
a certain point, these bets are
this kind of prop bets are no
good because they're, you can
easily it can be rigged. I mean,
if I was somebody working with
John Pierre Claude Van Damme and
I was looking at I have the
speech in front of me. I
wouldn't be calling my bookie
telling Biden make sure you
don't blow this one up. So
Adam Curry: just this morning,
it's the most cringe thing I
could have imagined our
president did. He did a zoom
call. It's on. It's on the X
with former presidents in
John C Dvorak: the movies. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, this is
unbelievable.
Adam Curry: He had on Morgan
Freeman. Tony Goldwyn, Gina
Davis, who also played president
in the movie, Michael Douglas
and Bill Pullman. Who did.
Independence. Do you want to
hear some of that? I have. I
haven't. Yeah, okay. Sure.
Unknown: I never spoke to so
many presidents all at one time.
Some of you might know what a
big speech I got to do is coming
up State of the Union. advice
you have for me, Mike Dillard,
my speech. What
else and my capacity as
President, all I had to deal
with was a media are. One of the
things that I miss is
Adam Curry: Morgan Freeman, for
those who can't understand was
that
John C Dvorak: it's so
recognizable,
Unknown: opens the strongest
posts we have and then we get to
is the most useful and the most
effective, and I advices
Adam Curry: just keep that too
long. Oregon tighten it up.
Unknown: That's how you're
working for us.
Adam Curry: Stick to Dave no
script, Mr. President.
Unknown: Looking back on my own
presidency. I
Adam Curry: does anyone know
Tony Goldwyn anymore? Do we even
know? Do we even know what he
looks like?
John C Dvorak: It goes dead. I
have no idea. I have to look at
go look him up to see what he
looks like even know who he is.
We're
Adam Curry: gonna find Gina day.
Oh, and also, when I
Unknown: do that with ice cream,
I highly encourage it. I know
for me, obviously,
but a tough job it is. And, you
know, when I was struggling a
little bit like this president,
it seemed like every week, there
was some new crisis that I had
to face and did
a hell of a job.
Adam Curry: It's so pathetic.
Let's just skip to the end.
Unknown: There's nothing that we
can't do when we do it together.
This is Pullman. Those are good
ones. Best wishes to you, sir.
There's nothing beyond our
capacity. And I believe that.
Hey, come see me. I'd love to
meet you in person. Thank you
very much. I never spoke to so
many presidents all at one time.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Thank
you.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Thank you
sad just sad. Sad. I mean, we
used to be cool. America used to
be cool. No longer this
John C Dvorak: is sad. This is
not good. Debt is totally
pathetic. And the sad I'm sure
that the left you know the Bill
Maher's or the world are all
thinking that's fabulous. Please
go
Adam Curry: see that. That was
awesome. I have no no you don't
he didn't actually say that. Did
he build more? Awesome.
John C Dvorak: No, no, I have
the his complete screw up.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. All right.
Let's do Bill Maher. What
John C Dvorak: do you got? Well,
Adam Curry: where is this from
his show or from his podcast?
Show him his show.
John C Dvorak: It's from his
show live and he actually set it
up with the list set it up with
Jack pro bro react. Is that
whatever seebik Proceed. He's on
he's at CPAC and he's just
standing up there trying to be
funny. And he says Does the C
pay this clip C pack Jack Jack I
got you.
Unknown: Go Welcome. Welcome. I
just wanted to say look, welcome
to the end of democracy. We're
here to overthrow completely we
didn't get all the way there on
January 6, but we will we will
endeavor to get rid of it and
replace it with with this right
here who will replace it with
this fire. Amen.
Adam Curry: Yes, you know, Jack
should not be doing this stick.
Unknown: No. Well, he's
John C Dvorak: not he's not a
comic. No, but But what's
interesting is they is Maher
took it seriously to such an
extreme that's a no Oh, no.
believable. This is a
professional comedian and listen
to this Bill Maher on the end of
democracy one CPAC
Unknown: Do you know what that
is? That is the conservative one
is it
unfortunate what is packed with
the collapsing political action
committee? Okay.
It's their big convention every
year. It's like, like
corporations have a big
convention. They have their big
image. I made jokes about it
every year. I can't remember the
time we did that was way back. I
remember once calling it the
Woodstock for the mentally
impaired
in years past, it was like the
most conservative commentators
and senators and governors and
okay this year there's a guy
I've heard this name I don't
know who he is Jack pro sobic is
doing sort of like a roundtable
discussion. You know, it's a
convention they have these
things. This is a quote Welcome
to the end of democracy. We are
here to overthrow it
Adam Curry: out here so he
didn't actually see it. His
writers just wrote this for him
and he's too lazy to actually
look at the clip that I'm
already feeling what's happening
here completely.
Unknown: We didn't get all the
way there on January 6, but we
will endeavor to get rid of it.
Am I missing an irony here? Yes
is missing a joke it seems now
they are saying the out the
quiet part out loud flub the
thing or not this is stupid.
This is their big this is
Republican conservative their
big convention and you have a
guy like this in the crowd is
loving it. Welcome to the end of
democracy. We're here to
overthrow it. January 6 was
good. Now we're going to finish
the job. False. It's scary.
Adam Curry: Oh, clutching my
pearls is scary, scary, scary.
It's the biggest convention in
the world. So they have
John C Dvorak: so this woman So
this is more pathetic, I think
then than what you played. And
by the way, it wasn't ironic it
was sarcastic, but we can
quibble about that later. So he
has this woman on who's a lefty
who ended up going on I have a
clip of her later what's her
name? It's her name is Bachi
something so she's
Adam Curry: isn't she from new
she's the Newsweek opinion
editor.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's the
Newsweek opinion. Woman. So
she's on the show and she's
dying knowing that this is
nonsense. Well, the guy sitting
next to her is going oh, it's so
Adam Curry: scary. It's scary.
Who was the guy sitting next to
him?
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
don't have his name but you can
look him up but the budget is
pretty good. I've
Adam Curry: seen her before is
very
John C Dvorak: good. I have a
clip after this clip. Okay, but
let's say this is Bill Maher the
end of democracy to try she
tries to explain to him that
it's a joke. Oh goodness. And
Maher is like really like Well,
I'm not sure thoughts
Unknown: it's very bill that was
a joke about Trump making a joke
about being a dictator day one
in office that is an ironic take
on
how the Liberals That was my
question Am I missing the irony
conservatives I
think so. Yes. Joke really?
Yeah. And I think more I mean
more to you bail into a job
Jack.
Adam Curry: Okay, so he tries to
save it with with this quip.
quip this lousy is just poor
showmanship and poor television
midship and he should be ashamed
of himself for just blatantly
walking into the studio ready to
go. What am I what am I jokes
he's not he's he's phoning it in
is what he's doing. Because
John C Dvorak: it wasn't a panel
probe or whatever his name is
just standing there. You know,
trying to kill time so had
nothing to do with anything.
Meanwhile, Maura Yeah, you're
right. He phoned it in here's
batty as she shows up on on
bandit Banyan show. Oh, the War
Room. Oh, to talk about this. A
little bit.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. This.
This is now a topic of
discussion.
John C Dvorak: Here. What
goodness Maurice? Screw up the
topic. Oh, wow. I'm
Adam Curry: glad we have time on
our hands. And we knew about
being on there. Well,
Unknown: I'm I'm very, very
grateful to bill for having me
because even though I am on the
left, I can't get onto liberal
shows. Because it's kind of like
that scene in Monty Python where
they're like, hey, we want to
join you. And they were like,
well, how much do you hate the
Romans and he goes a lot. And
they're like, right, you're in?
It's the same thing with Trump.
If you don't hate Trump, they
will not let you on even if you
want to tell them. Hey, here's
how the Democrats could get the
working class back. They don't
want to hear it.
John C Dvorak: So that was the
point. Well, and that's good. I
mean, she you have to be a
hater. Yes, yes. To get into
these gigs, and she's like irk
because she doesn't get booked
on anything. And she's very
personable. She's quite funny.
She goes on and on about a bunch
of things. I could have played
more clips of her. Yeah, because
she's good. But she is worried
about the Democrats being off to
lunch. I had
Adam Curry: a supercut somewhere
I see on this this. Let me just
see if it was I think it was
super cut. Super cut super cut.
I'll find it. But the hate is
strong. It's real. It's really
it's quite. It's quite insane.
Um, I have a I have MSNBC from
Super Tuesday, a couple of
clips.
John C Dvorak: If you want to
laugh. Yeah, I was gonna get
these. These are funny.
Adam Curry: Here's Rachel
Maddow.
Unknown: Remarks I've just
started for for President Donald
Trump. Let's, let's
let's listen in. Nobody thought
a thing like this would be
possible. We wouldn't have
Russia attacking Ukraine, we
wouldn't have Israel being
attacked. Iran, as you know, was
broke. When I was running
things. They were broke. They
didn't have money for Hamas.
They didn't have money for
Hezbollah. We had no inflation.
Inflation is destroying the
middle class. It's destroying
everything inflation. If you
look back over the history
hundreds of years back it's
called inflation. It's called a
country buster. And that's what
it's doing to our country.
What's happened with inflation
has been unbelievable. A lot of
people say a lot of experts have
said the stock market's The only
thing that's doing well, and
that's doing well because our
poll numbers are so much higher
than it should.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I'll just
do a couple of quick Trump clips
and then we'll have Matt Oh,
come back. And Chris Of course,
yes to interrupt. Here he is on
the border.
Unknown: We had the safest
border, the best numbers we've
ever had. And now we have the
worst numbers probably. Probably
in the history of the world.
It's sad To see what's happening
to our cities, our cities are
being overrun with migrant
crime. And that's Biden migrant
crime. But it's a new category
of crime and it's violent.
Adam Curry: It's a new category
Biden migrant crime, where they
stand in
Unknown: the middle of the
street and have fistfights with
police officers. And if they did
that in their countries from
where they came, they'd be
killed instantly, instantly
promised they wouldn't do that.
So the world is laughing at us,
the world is taking advantage of
us.
Adam Curry: Well, no, the world
is laughing. The world has the
exact same problems. Here he is
on our energy independence.
Three
Unknown: years ago, we were at a
level we were an energy
independent, we're going to be
very shortly energy dominant.
And today we're getting oil from
Venezuela. Can you believe it?
And we're doing numbers on that
oil. You know, what we're doing?
We're refining the oil. We have
a refinery for that. Well, it's
truly I call it tar. It's not
oil is terrible. We have real
stuff. Why
Adam Curry: is he saying we're
refining the Venezuelan oil,
which is tar?
John C Dvorak: That's what he
said.
Adam Curry: Is that true? I
mean, you know a lot about this
John C Dvorak: stuff. But the
Venezuelan crude, I'm not sure
really thick tar? It's well, it
would it would be a heavy style,
heavy crude as possible. I don't
know. I'd have to look it up.
Let's
Adam Curry: now this is where
this is where it just starts
Eric Rachel, because now he's
talking about a fair and free
press,
Unknown: we need a fair and free
press. The press has not been
fair, nor has it been free. But
maybe someday they will be
they're being beaten up pretty
badly. People aren't trusting
them. They're not believing
them. And really, it's a very
important factor. The Press used
to be the policeman, it used to
police our country. Now nobody
has confidence in them. And we
have to get that confidence
back. It's so important for the
success of our country. So
important. Yes. All right. Here
we go read an article
yesterday where it said this is
one of the finest run campaigns
that anybody has ever seen.
That's pretty good. Right? So
get in there. Get
November, you know, it's it's,
it is. Okay. I will say that it
is a decision that we revisit
constantly in terms of the
balance between allowing
somebody to knowingly lie on
your air about things they've
lied about before, and you can
predict they're going to lie
about and so therefore it is.
It's irresponsible to allow them
to do that to responsibly
balance between knowing that
that's irresponsible to
broadcast, and also knowing that
as the de facto soon to be de
facto nominee of the Republican
Party. This is not only the man
who is likely to be the
Republican candidate for
president, but this is the way
he's running. So
Adam Curry: then sitting on the
panel, but wait,
John C Dvorak: wait, yes. Did
she say specifically what what
was the lies? He's just
generalized? Well,
Adam Curry: because now we go
over to the panelists next to
her. The favorite of the trading
floor boys over there at Goldman
Sachs, Stephanie rule. She
didn't go to J school. Ah, she
was a trader. And then she rose
through the ranks at Goldman,
and show the show fact checking,
here's
Unknown: how to balance it. Why
don't we fact check the hell out
of him? Yes,
we do that after the fact. And
that is the best remedy that
we've got. It does not fix the
fact that we broadcast it,
but that he's saying these
things and people are hearing
it. Let's just go through it.
Right, the most devastating
economy, are you kidding me? We
had the best economic recovery
of any country in the developed
world. He's telling an audience
right there, oh, my goodness,
that the poultry oil production,
we're producing more oil today
than we ever have in the history
of our country. Think about the
American rescue plan, the
infrastructure plan, we have
created more jobs, three 3.2
million more jobs than we had
pre pandemic. The problem that
we do have is inflation. And so
what Donald Trump does is
preying upon the fact that
people don't necessarily feel
good and life's expensive.
Adam Curry: Oh, the horrors he
plays on the fact that people
don't feel good and life's
expensive, but everything else
is great. is great.
John C Dvorak: What did he did
he not set? Did he say that? We
don't have high or production? I
mean, what was the lies? But I
mean, you're Ali said, Oh, the
only positive the only factual
thing that he referred to as the
high inflation. Yeah. And people
don't feel good about things.
Yeah, I was aware of the fact
check. You got to fact check him
then. But that's
Adam Curry: the whole problem.
It's like it's he's saying
things that are hitting home,
turn him off. That's it. It's so
odd that I think it's obvious to
most people. Let's go back to
the
John C Dvorak: before we
continue though, there's a
couple other things along this
this line I want to say at least
discuss. So I got an article I
sent it to you to put in the
show notes is written by a
writer in the UK called Andrew
or Loski, who wrote for the
spike he writes for The
Telegraph. And he goes on about
how the BBC and these people in
in Europe, especially in
England, are, are pre excusing
Trump's victory. Yes, yes,
exactly. Dan. So they're coming
up with it's like pre crime.
Yeah. And it's gonna be all
about misinformation and
disinformation. And they're
gonna go on and on about it. And
he cited an example which are
these photos. I guess I have not
seen him until I read his
article. I have a club. Acts of
Trump with black people that
have been all part of AI
pictures. Yes.
Adam Curry: I have a clip here.
How
John C Dvorak: long have you
seen these?
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Well,
this is this is part of the I
think it's part of the Swift up
because they're also now saying
that Russia, here let me get the
article for you. Putin plans?
Let me see what who wrote this
New York Post. Okay. Putin plans
to weaponize deep fake porn
against Western democracies,
female leaders. Ah, Swift
John C Dvorak: slave stops we
already brought in Swift and
then you say female leader. So
I'm I'm already chuckling Yeah.
So
Adam Curry: here's, here's the
here's the girl from the Young
Turks who is reading this banner
and is reading this this. This
BBC article, AI generated
Unknown: images depicting Donald
Trump with excited black
supporters are spreading across
the internet like wildfire.
According to a BBC investigation
now, since their AI images,
obviously they're not real.
They're not authentic. They're
not depicting something that
actually happened. And if you're
tempted to believe that Russia
or some other nefarious foreign
actor is behind the misleading
images, the BBC looked into that
and found that American Trump
supporters are actually the ones
behind the, you know, dishonest
AI images that are spreading.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's your off
message, girl. Putin.
John C Dvorak: I know darts off
in one direction. I know Hooton
OTEN and then she drifts over to
some I can't keep their focus
now
Adam Curry: ever since chunk
just went complete nut job that
this it's a rudderless ship over
there. Now, of course we have we
have more, we have more insane
stuff such as the Supreme
Court's decision. Unanimous it
was not even a you it was not a
unanimous it was the court
decision. Our constitutional
lawyer deconstructed it for us.
So that's nine, nine to zero, no
dissent that Colorado has or any
state has has no right to take
the president off of the ballot.
They were very careful, by the
way, in what they said. Because
the Heritage's they did not
decide whether Trump of course
actually engaged in
insurrection. They took a quick
little off ramp, a simple one,
and they said hey, states lack
the power to use Article Three
against federal officeholders.
That's, that's really the whole
thing. Yeah. And of course, it
was hilarious to see that the
document that was sent out I
guess it was a Word document
where they had track changes,
and they forgot to remove those.
So everyone had their panties in
a bunch that had to been done on
purpose. Most definitely,
because it was definitely not
just so Exactly. So is what I
would say. It was Sotomayor who
appeared to have written a
dissenting opinion in the in the
document, but that was then that
track changes. turned it into
what do you call it? Arc?
Harare, I think is the term let
me say it's the court. Yes.
procure pure curiam There you
go. Hey, I speak Latin. Per
curiam, ie the whole court
decides and there was no dissent
but I agree with you I think
that was left in there purposely
you know, little virtue signal
by Sotomayor someone whoever
whoever is doing that stuff, but
here's Joy read, always fun to
listen to her opinion on stuff.
Unknown: I do have to go to you
first, Melissa, because I'm
sorry, but I don't speak Supreme
Court ease. But all I read was
shade, shade and more shade from
your former boss, Justice
Sotomayor and her colleagues.
They open in their what felt
like more of a dissent honestly
than In a good Gertz in which
they said y'all did too much.
You just had to say states can't
afford section three and leave
it there. But you had to keep
going. You felt like you had to
tell people how to enforce
section three you felt like you
had to instruct Congress. Did
you read out as shade as I did?
I think it was shade all the way
down joy. And more than that. I
think this was nominally a
concurrence, but it had real big
D energy big dissent energy.
Adam Curry: Big D. Oh, my
Unknown: God.
John C Dvorak: All right, I'm
giving you a clip of the day for
kitchen now home. Energy level.
Wow, what an asshole. 26
Adam Curry: minutes into the
show. We have clip of the day
ladies and gentlemen, does it
get any crazier? I mean, I
didn't even clip mica this
morning. Oh man, or Joe, who
says this is the most cogent
Biden ever I mean, these people
are going nuts. Anyway,
John C Dvorak: I do have a three
by three about this since you
brought it
Adam Curry: right into a baby
experiment by JC D, a three by
three parents don't read from
ABC
three by three. It's not just an
experiment we actually delve in
JCD gets you clips and we check
out the big news stories from
the three trustworthy news
networks. Yeah, this
John C Dvorak: is much of the
craziness that you just heard
that you got the Clip of the Day
for so let's start with ABC
Unknown: tonight for the first
time after months of missile
attacks on cargo ships. The
Iranian backed Houthis have left
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. That's
the wrong ABC clip. This is your
ABC clip for the Supreme
Unknown: Court a rare moment of
unanimity. All nine justices so
often divided in major cases,
declaring as one that individual
states cannot ban Donald Trump
from the presidential ballot
under the insurrection clause of
the Constitutions 14th
amendment. The court did not
address the issue of whether
Trump actually engaged in
insurrection, but declared that
the responsibility for enforcing
that Section of the Constitution
rests with Congress and not the
states. They
work long. They're worked hard,
and frankly, they work very
quickly.
Adam Curry: That will work long,
hard but quickly be
Unknown: spoken about 100 years
from now and 200 years from now
extremely important best
courts in three states Colorado,
Maine and Illinois have ruled
that Trump should be banned from
the ballot because of his
actions on January 6 than in the
weeks before, under the 14th
amendments command that no one
who has taken an oath to support
the Constitution and then
engaged in insurrection can hold
public office afterwards. during
oral arguments last month,
liberals and conservatives on
the court voiced sharp
skepticism and what Colorado did
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, what's
going on over there at ABC Sure,
skepticism
Unknown: engaged in insurrection
can hold public office
afterwards. during oral
arguments last month, liberals
and conservatives on the court
voiced sharp skepticism of what
Colorado did puke
I think that the question that
you have to confront is why a
single state should decide who
gets to be President of the
United States.
Today, the justices pointed to
the potential disruption that
could happen if some states
disqualified Trump and some did
not all using different
standards and procedures to
disqualify insurrection as
candidates the court ruled
Congress must first pass a law
spelling out how justice Amy
Kony Barrett also wrote
separately agreeing with the
liberals that the majority went
too far but urging her
colleagues to turn the national
temperature down, not up. Our
differences are far less
important than our unanimity
Barrett wrote. All nine justices
agree on the outcome of this
case. That is the message all
Americans should take home.
Adam Curry: Wow, except for the
puking that was reasonably on
point. Yeah, thanks. So
John C Dvorak: here's some of
the some of the Dana Bash on
MSNBC where she goes on to be a
sad day for America that they
did the right thing.
Adam Curry: What did you see? I
mean, Keith Olbermann,
unfortunately, did right but he
didn't have he didn't do any
video. So we
John C Dvorak: know he's, he's
been he's gonna do a video
himself. He spits too much on
them their screen they've the
lens. It's all speedy. So let's
go to NBC
Unknown: tonight the US Supreme
Court dealing a final blow to
states trying to ban former
President Trump from the ballot.
In a unanimous decision. The
justice is effectively leaving
it up to voters to decide if the
former president returns no
White House, Mr. Trump preys on
today's ruling
the voters can take the person
out of the race very quickly.
But a court shouldn't be doing
that. The
justice is rejecting a Colorado
State Courts ruling Finding Mr.
Trump ineligible to be president
under section three of the 14th
Amendment, a largely untested
clause of the Constitution
passed after the Civil War,
isn't it? completely
Adam Curry: untested Claus has
ever been tested.
Unknown: I have no disqualifying
those who engage in
insurrection, of course, the
public office with Lincoln
elections official in Maine and
a judge in Illinois later doing
the same, banning the Republican
front runner from the ballot in
those states in light of his
actions on January 6, today's
ruling from the high court now
ending all similar efforts to
disqualify Mr. Trump from the
ballot. Well,
most states were thrilled to
have me. There were some that
didn't get and they didn't want
that for political reasons. The
justices today saying that
patchwork of different rulings
across the country cannot stand
finding responsibility for
enforcing section three against
federal office holders and
candidates rests with Congress
and not the states. I've got to
say boring read. But at the same
time, the three liberal justices
accusing their Conservative
colleagues of going too far to
find ruling Congress must enact
new legislation in order to ban
a presidential candidate.
Adam Curry: Why is that too far?
I don't understand. I mean,
that's why is that too far? Why
is it too far to have Congress?
Do that? I mean, isn't that
exactly what the Supreme Court
said? Why is that going too far?
I don't know. It's confusing
Unknown: the way she represented
ating. This ruling will make it
harder to bar and oath breaking
insurrectionists from becoming
president, you forgot rapists
conservative justice Barrett
cautioning this Court should
turn the national temperature
down. Not up. Thank
Adam Curry: you, Barrett. All
right. Boring, boring. Read NBC
in trouble as far as I'm
concerned. That's not me. She's
John C Dvorak: got Yeah, that's
reporting that's factual and
it's boring. That was pretty
bad. Yeah, that was a bad. A bad
report how
Adam Curry: to do now that the
pixie girl you know, there
John C Dvorak: are no let's see.
A
Unknown: crucial decision today
with sweeping political
consequences sweep High Court
ruling that former President
Donald Trump cannot be removed
from Colorado's ballot due to
the state courts view that he
stoped the January 6
insurrection. You
cannot take somebody out of a
race. The voters can take the
person out of the race very
quickly. But a court shouldn't
be doing that. With this
ruling. Two other states also
had their efforts to remove the
former president stole three
justices in a separate
concurring opinion set allowing
the Colorado measure to go
forward. Would we agree create a
chaotic state by state patchwork
amid a tense political landscape
justice Amy Coney Barrett also
urged Americans to see unity
from the unanimous decision sold
handwriting in this circumstance
writings on the court should
turn the national temperature
down. Not up. Colorado's
democratic Secretary of State
offered sharp criticism of the
decision.
I do believe states should
Adam Curry: be able under our
this woman did you see her eyes?
Oh, she's
John C Dvorak: a psycho vision.
Unknown: I do believe that
states should be able under our
constitution to bar oath
breaking insurrectionists the
ruling comes
Adam Curry: a day before this is
now the mean oath breaking into
elections breaking oath breaking
that she forgot rapist tuition
Unknown: to bar oath breaking
insurrectionist
the ruling comes a day before
Super Tuesday the biggest
primary election day of the
season, when voters in 15 states
including Colorado head to the
polls, and Trump's legal hurdles
continue to pile up as the
Supreme Court weighs another
decision next month.
I hope that the justices because
they'll be working on some other
cases, but one in particular,
presidents have to be given
total immunity. They have to be
allowed to do their job.
Later this month. Trump will
also spend six weeks in court
where He is charged with
falsifying business records
related to hush money payments
to a porn star.
Adam Curry: God Okay. Since that
was so boring, not your not your
fault. Yeah. Be
John C Dvorak: the little point
in there that CBS says they tee
the ball up for the next round.
Of course, the immunity case.
Network did not do and
Dershowitz who comes on every
show he can get on and the right
wing shows now almost
exclusively in fact, exclusively
Yeah. As I said, I you know, he
comes on his spikes. I don't
have these clips. He spikes the
ball said I predicted nine to
nothing. I mean, he's he's
getting really with his new
podcast. He's getting care. He's
getting the decoding of
personality. Dersch test is the
Dersch leadership does show
their hands so he spikes the
ball. And then he says and then
I believe that it will be a 63
and the next one and which I
think he's right, because
they're going to because these,
these liberal judges have felt
You're getting flak when you do
anything, you know, they don't
they get pushed around a lot and
so they're gonna probably go
against immunity thing, which is
again is
Adam Curry: stupid because
immediately everyone goes to
jail. Everybody
John C Dvorak: goes to jail.
Yeah, I would say if they're
they better start thinking about
and somebody's gonna have to
start bringing this up besides
me. Which Obama? Yeah, there we
go is the guy who's killed four
Americans extra dude judicial
murder of four different
Americans he would be he should
go to jail you should be
definitely go to jail and
there's other examples that
people use but no one wants to
bring up this Obama one
Adam Curry: down with that we
got two words for Predator
drones I don't know where that
came from okay. There was let's
just do some elections. I know
you have a report. It was super
Tuesday in the United States
where everybody goes and votes
for the local elections and, and
some primary stuff. But we had
some fun. That was fun.
Certainly in North Carolina, the
North
Unknown: Carolina race for the
governor's mansion is going to
be among the most competitive.
And now CNN is projecting that
the Republican candidate in that
race is going to be lieutenant
governor, Mark Robinson,
a favorite among evangelicals
becoming the first black
gubernatorial nominee in North
Carolina.
Those who want to go into the
mud, feel free. Where we're
going is we're going towards the
substantive issues and all North
Carolinians face
Adam Curry: this guy. Did you
see this guy? Oh, I've
John C Dvorak: been watching
this guy for a month here I got
a super cut short he's got some
great material.
Unknown: He does a but to gender
saying that men and women
are mentally not women.
Oh to be led by men when it was
time to face down the last sit,
David, not DeVito there's no
reason anybody anywhere in
America should be telling about
transgenderism homosexuality in
that field. And yes, I called it
Phil we could pass it mill so
you can't have an abortion in
North Carolina for any reason.
He says the civil rights
movement in the 1960s was quote
crap, and that Martin Luther
King was a communist Robinson
posted the movie Black Panther
was quote created by an agnostic
Jew to pull the shackles out of
your sports to pocket using the
in his words for money and
black. He referred to the
victims of the Parkland School
shooting as spoiled little
bastard. He says the moon
landing in 1969 may have been
fake. He also says there is a
secret Ruling Cabal that is part
reptile and
said that Beyonce is satanic.
mack daddy Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well, they did.
Cut they left out the funniest
bit he goes into a reparations.
Oh, I don't have that one. Oh,
the reparations thing he says
Black should be paying
reparations to white. And his
rationale is, is really
interesting.
Adam Curry: Man. I'm doing a
show with Moe next week. Maybe
we can get into it. I'd love to
hear his take on that.
John C Dvorak: All right. Yeah,
but you're gonna be a big fan of
that guy. Oh, this is fantastic.
Of course because of the moon
landing just
Adam Curry: just for the moon
landing alone. I came for the
moon landing and stayed for the
two agendas event. And
meanwhile, Rolling Stone trying
to amp it up a bit. to coin a
phrase headline exclusive due to
Trump's White House was awash in
speed and Xanax. Under Trump,
the White House medical unit was
like the Wild West and staffers
had easy access to powerful
stimulants and sedatives.
Sources tell Rollingstone you
know what, I think all of
Washington DC has access to
powerful stimulants and and
sedatives they're all on drugs.
Yeah, of course they are all of
them all of them.
John C Dvorak: I don't get the
point of this Rolling Stone
piece. Well are they trained did
make it do lessen the blow about
Hunter No, no, no Joe gets yes
shot up just before the
interesting today. Yeah, but
Adam Curry: you're saying being
yourself. Exactly. Because you
know Joe's gonna get all jacked
up tonight. Man Well, if it's if
it's the real Joe we don't even
know we don't even know if the
real Joe the more politics here
Big Mike says No way Jose
Unknown: former First Lady
Michelle Obama once again
shutting down speculation about
whether she would jump into the
race for president if needed.
The former first lady making a
claim As she has before she
supports President Biden and
vice president Harris and will
not be running for president.
Her spokesperson says she's
expected to act as a campaign
surrogate for President Biden
and vice president Harris.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And I tried to
register Big Mike
2020 eight.com. And that was
already taken. So I feel gypped
I feel
John C Dvorak: sorry by one of
our producers,
Adam Curry: no doubt. No doubt.
So I'll tell you my experience
here.
John C Dvorak: What I'm voting
because you do have a bit Nikki
Haley quitting clip, which is
part of two Super Tuesday and I
still have my yes my that's why
I'm discussion of the I voted on
a Dominion machine.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, let's do
your Nikki Haley quits poorly.
And then I have two quick Nikki
Haley crowd responses as
Unknown: Nikki Haley drops out
without endorsing former
President Trump. Both Trump and
Biden are now courting Haley's
voters. Trump has also
challenged Biden to a debate
anytime and anywhere. And
today's White House
correspondent Iris Tao has more
already. Both
Trump and Biden are now directly
asking Nikki Haley supporters to
join their camps, though their
messaging is quite different
from while saying that Biden is
the enemy and that he's inviting
on Nikki Haley supporters to
join the Maga movement also
criticized Nikki Haley saying
she trounced on Super Tuesday
and then a lot of her supporters
and donors were actually
Democrats. And President Biden,
meanwhile, praised Nikki Haley
and Wednesday seem insane.
She was willing to speak their
truth about Donald Trump,
adding that Nikki Haley
supporters have a place in his
campaign. Meanwhile, both Trump
and Biden's appeal came after
Nikki Haley on Wednesday
morning, dropped out of the race
and congratulated Trump but
stopped short of actually
endorsing him know what Nikki
Haley was saying, watch.
I congratulate him. It is now up
to Donald Trump to earn the
votes of those in our party and
beyond it who did not support
him. And I hope he does that.
Yeah, of course,
Adam Curry: of course you only
suspended her campaign. Now we
know what it really means. But
just in case, just in case he
gets convicted, then she can pop
back up. I have two crowd
responses, one from Fox and one
from NBC. Here's Fox. NBC
Unknown: just reported that
Michelle Obama has said she will
not run for president. Thank
God. Yes. He said I would love
the reaction from from a woman
in the crowd and
vote for a woman. And especially
you know, Nikki Haley, I'm just
gonna say this. She's probably
menopausal. We don't need that.
For people, regardless of their
gender, just the right person
for the job for America. Hello.
Adam Curry: She's probably
menopausal. We don't need that.
Okay. Here's NBC.
Unknown: Do you think Nikki
Haley, did you ever consider
her?
So you don't really want to put
it on? Let me hear it. Good
presidents. You have no balls to
Scratch. Scratch your head all
woman's Good for him. My book is
having babies and taking care of
the house. And that's that's the
old thing. But you never even
considered her? No. Because
mainly because she's a woman
because she's female. I mean,
females don't get me wrong,
females know what they're doing.
But they still gotta have a
little bit of guidance.
John C Dvorak: So this is the
classic big networks. Let's find
a guy with a southern accent.
Beautiful, and maybe even give
him a script to read as long as
he talks like this and sounds
real stupid. He's good.
Adam Curry: He's good. He's
good. Oh, do have did i Oh, I
have a mashup of a mashup of her
dropping out of the race on the
ABC the view the
Unknown: time has now come to
suspend my campaign. I said I
wanted Americans to have their
voices heard. I have done that.
I have no regrets. In all
likelihood Donald Trump will be
the Republican nominee when our
party convention meets in July.
I congratulate him and wish him
well. It is now up to Donald
Trump to earn the votes of those
in our party and beyond it who
did not support him. And I hope
he does that. Sorry.
Adam Curry: Didn't mean to bum
everybody up. Okay. All right.
So I'll tell you my experience.
We didn't we Gillespie County is
a hand vote County. Yeah. And it
was here right around the corner
from us at this little place
called I think the Knitting
Factory where people buy yarn.
And they had some classic cars
outside. And believe it or not,
we also had a sheriff election
here and it's now turned into a
runoff. And Chris Ayala is one
of the one of the candidates and
Laura Logan's husband was in one
of those. Those like long tube
costume You know, like the the
ones that the car dealers have
that, you know, flop up and down
with the air and the big giant
thing was you got the blower at
the bottom, and he was in it
with his head popping out. For
crusade, Allah is a sheriff.
John C Dvorak: And it was at a
lectionary was that anywhere
near the voting site? 100.
Adam Curry: It's 150 feet, I
think, away from it. So he was
on the street. Yeah. Now there
were people in lawn chairs. And
that's why the classic cars ones
for this one for that. And it
was it was very, very low key.
What was fascinating. Was there
were all these propositions,
which are not proposition, you
know, it's just advice. It's not
like you're actually voting on
something, but it was cool stuff
like, Should Texas abolish all
real estate tax without
increasing any other tax? Like,
Yep, yeah, I'll cross that box.
John C Dvorak: To get on the
ballot, shall we? Should
Adam Curry: we arrest all
illegal immigrants, I'll go
cross that one off. So it was
pretty good. And it took until
Wednesday morning for for the
votes to be counted in Gillespie
County, as it was, as it was
hand count, but at least
everyone felt like their votes
were counted. And so it was a it
was a nice, wholesome, old
school voting experience. And
you in California, where was it
being held? But it was at a
school and
John C Dvorak: some near the
library? Okay. It was an off
there's a room off there was a
community rec room or something.
And it was you know, you go
there's nobody there. I mean,
there's maybe I mean, I went to
in the afternoon, so it wasn't
gonna be a lot of people. And I
was the guy there they go
through this process of this and
that and they never asked for
voter ID. Did they ask for a
voter ID there? Yeah,
Adam Curry: well, of course, we
have to show our our driver's
license Absolutely.
John C Dvorak: No, no, here.
Unknown: 00.
John C Dvorak: What's your
address? And here it is, is this
you? And they flip it over and
they get this little computer
little lap? Like a tablet
computer? They keep flipping it
over that he's right on
something and he flips it over
and you can look at the screen
flips over? And what was
Adam Curry: the screen? What was
on the screen? It was like
John C Dvorak: Is this you and
it had your name and address and
you had to check a box? Yes,
this is me. And then you had to
sign it. But you signed it with
a you know, like, I don't know
if people have noticed this. But
at the grocery store nowadays,
they're always want you to sign
on the little screen that was
Adam Curry: their little button
to tip 20% or 25%. So the
John C Dvorak: you know, if you
notice that if you go to the
grocery store, and you have this
sign, you can put an X so you
can do a scribble. Yeah. And
signature except that it always
says that what you do is same
with this, because there was a
little section there and they
give you a rubber pan. And you
tried signing my name and it was
just a couple of Bob's there
Adam Curry: since we've been
doing the show so long do you
remember we had the report that
some guy got busted because he
was signing it by drawing
penises?
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
that. But okay. Like, that's
what I look and look like. So I
signed and nothing was terrible
because I didn't put the right
pressure on something the person
next to me that there's two of
these. And she signed Anders is
the big flourishing signature
over the screen. I didn't
realize it full screen was hot,
but okay, so it didn't didn't
matter. And the guy says you
want to go to the paper ballot
or do you want to go to the
machine? He says the machine is
really cool.
Adam Curry: Oh, he Oh, he was
prompting nudging you, nudging
you towards the machine?
John C Dvorak: Well, I was gonna
go for the machine anyway. But
yes, he did kind of, but it was
it was like, you know, it's
faster he mentioned. So I go to
the machine and it's a machine.
It was a big screen is very
nice. I have to say because
they've had admin screens in the
past and know that it said the
bottom Dominion systems, I said,
i Great i get to use, I get to
be at firsthand experience. So I
go in and it's gorgeous screen,
very slick. And so you're
supposed to vote in California.
There's you know, they they have
state that US senator is going
to be Adam Schiff versus Steve
Garvey versus Katey Porter, the
big three and then there's like
50 other people on the ballot.
So I'm looking I swear that I
went through that whole screen
looking for Steve Garvey's name
because I'm voting for him and
not voted for Adam Schiff and I
when I went away free should
mention that when I go in, I'm
an independent non affiliated so
I get to choice of three
different ballots. I get to an
independent ballot, some other
ballot peace and freedom or
something and Democrat, so I
picked Democrat, the Republicans
do not allow this if you want to
vote on the Republican primary,
you have to be registered. We'll
Adam Curry: just stop you for a
second. So So we went and and
they said there's only one
ballot said Do you mean? Well,
there's only this only
Republican ballot. I said, but
Mr. Independent, no, there's
only one ballot if you want to
vote Democrat. If you want to
vote in the Democrat ballot, you
have to go to San Antonio.
Watch. Yeah, this is weird. This
is weird. But
John C Dvorak: that's a bit
much. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I thought I
John C Dvorak: gave me the
register. They gave me the
choice. I did this. I've gone
through this before. So I always
picked the Democrat ballot. I
think it's funny. So I go in
there, I voted for Steve Garvey.
But I'm telling you the first
time we went through the list, I
could not find his name. I went
through the list the second time
I could not find his name. The
third time I went through the
list, you scroll up and down is
how big this list is. Oh, there
he is not used. So I don't know
if he was even on it with a
wheel
Adam Curry: or is it touchscreen
or 100 Green touchscreen.
John C Dvorak: So you flip it up
and down. And so I finally found
him and there he was I vote and
then he had to vote twice for
Steve Garvey. Because there is a
replacement Senator that's going
to be in for a couple of months,
and there's the six year one. So
then the only and that's why I
voted here and there and I voted
for Dean Phillips for presidents
that have Biden, and whatever
that guy's name was Jean
Phillips. Dean Phillips is Dean
Phillips, somebody can correct
me if I'm wrong, but some Dean
somebody some congressman is
running against Biden. So then
we went to the propositions of
course, and I vote no on
everything that involves money
except to prop one because prop
one is our was promoted by
everybody starting with Newsom
it's racist. This is a Grich one
I've already Yes. reestablishes
the mental health institutions
in California. Yes, absolutely.
We're that we're on and at the
table, you know, the dining room
table everyplace else it's like,
and they promote this idea.
Ronald Reagan shut down the
mental health facilities in
California when he was
Adam Curry: governor. I was a
proposition at the time wasn't
it? wasn't an every No, Greg and
just shut it down. shut
John C Dvorak: him down.
Adam Curry: Because everyone was
bugging him about it. Yeah, the
Democrats. They wanted to shut
down exactly the
John C Dvorak: Democrat was here
the whole time. And I watched
the whole procedure and it was
the new One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest is out and
everything in between juicy and
it was the Democrats talking
about getting rid of the you
know, Reagan didn't care. Get
rid of these these places
getting shut them all down.
They're
Adam Curry: terrible beginning
of the homeless problem in
America.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Yeah,
that's true. That's true. And so
So now they're blaming the whole
thing on Reagan, and we have to
re establish it is just too
funny. That's, that's anyway, so
then I so when you do the
Dominion date, it's got a little
HP printer next to it. And after
your votes are done, they go
through a lot of process, you
got to confirm this and confirm
that and you got to look it over
twice, and then you push a
button, and the printer eats it.
The printer coughs out a print
out of your votes. And that's it
with a barcode on it. And it
says who you voted for. It's got
all the votes on there. And then
you take that and you shove it
in it and yes, I
Adam Curry: liked and yeah, and
then the Eagles and the sloth
slurps it up. Now
John C Dvorak: the slot is a
slot of dishes the box oh,
there's nothing slurping it last
time I went there was a slurp
device. Yeah, the slipper. Now
this went into a just a box. And
then I guess they they pack them
up and then slip into a device
that never reads the barcodes
with the barcode supposedly has
all the data. Now I would like
to have brought my camera I
didn't. I didn't see any reason
why. You can't can't use your
camera in the polling. Who says
oh, there's there's signs
everywhere. No phone, no signs
that I saw. I was California. So
I could have just printed out
that printout and taking a
picture of it. And taking a
picture of my screen. I could
have done a lot of photos. Yeah,
I didn't do that. But it's looks
pretty if it was if it's done
fairly. It's a nice product. And
dominion. And what do you think?
What
Unknown: are you? Well, I
John C Dvorak: don't know. I
have no idea. I mean, California
is you know, most of the votes
are now Malin, which is real
corruptible. Yeah. So I have no
idea of how they're doing as you
get it.
Adam Curry: I Voted sticker
John C Dvorak: to I took two of
them. And did you wear one? So I
put not put two of them as I
say, and you certainly want to
ask this. I voted twice. So
great gag. So I
Adam Curry: had my I Voted
sticker and I had a chess game
at a Java ranch here in town. I
played chess with this guy on
Tuesdays. And and so the young
I'll just call them the young
kids behind the behind the bar
the baristas like Hey, Adam, is
there an election today? I'm
like, Are you kidding me? Yeah.
And then after that I was
walking through HEB. And so a
guy starts was hey, is there
voting today? Like yes, it's
super Tuesday. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. No, where can I vote? It's
amazing. Yeah, I mean, people
are just they're completely
ablaze. Previous to what's going
on. Yes, totally. It's, that was
somewhat disheartening,
actually. Like, oh, man, this is
no good. Anyway, voting has
occurred and Donald Trump will
be the it'll be Trump versus
Biden is going to be beautiful.
It'll be somewhat tiring for the
next nine months. But we'll
stick with it. We'll try to keep
your amygdala as in check. We'll
try to make it entertaining.
Yes, entertaining and speaking
of entertaining, news be spared
the Wicked Witch lost his.
thing down the weekend, which is
Toria Nuland retires, retires
very surprising. I know you have
some clips, I started off with a
Redux clip. Going back to just
February 1, just a month ago,
she was in key leave,
Unknown: I have to say that I
leave tonight, more encouraged
about unity, and the results
about 2024. And its absolute
strategic importance for
Ukraine. I also leave more
confident that even as Ukraine
strengthens its defenses. Mr.
Putin is going to get some nice
surprises on the battlefield,
and that Ukraine will make some
very strong success
Adam Curry: this year. So we
should have already taken the
sound quality of her
announcement as a clue that
something was not going the way
she wanted it. This was not a
good appearance by Toria. And
she she said Oh Mr. Putin is
going to get some surprises on
the battlefield. I'm now
thinking that was meant to be
those tourists missiles. Toria
didn't get the tourists. And and
she resigned. And I have some
thoughts but we agreed we agreed
that you would play a couple
clips about her first.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I want to
play at one of her biggest fans.
Adam Curry: Gregory Rondo rough.
John C Dvorak: Glenn Greenwald
as gave her a send off. I have
three clips. And he's loved he
loves her. He loves disappointed
that poor old Tory, as they like
to call her is on the way out.
You're going to analyze this but
let's listen to Glenn. Here's
one one of the
Unknown: most bloodthirsty and
psychotic warmongers. The Occupy
high office in Washington
resigned today, evidently and
hopefully bringing a shameful
end to her long and destructive
career in Washington. Victoria
Nuland, who worked for every
American president from Bill
Clinton to Joe Biden, with the
sole exception that she was out
of power only during the Trump
presidency, announced today that
she was resigning her position
as Acting Deputy Secretary of
State, a position to which he
had just been promoted last
July, when the prior Deputy
Secretary of State retired,
there was much speculation about
why newlon may have resigned now
perhaps it was due to her anger
that the Biden administration is
not doing more to fuel the war
in Ukraine against Russia one of
our pet projects for decades,
though the Biden administration
is impeded only because Congress
under the house speaker Mike
Johnson won't approve another
$60 billion from that war.
Perhaps it is anger over the
fact that the Biden White House
is now typically criticizing
Israel, a country to which she
is more devoted than almost
anybody in Washington, or
perhaps and most likely, it was
due to the fact that she was
just passed over to permanently
become the Deputy Secretary of
State the position second in
line to ascend her lifelong
ambition of becoming Secretary
of State. Whatever the reasons,
and despite the horror show that
has already replaced her someone
who also worked for Dick Cheney,
and he's been around the State
Department for decades, there's
still much to celebrate from
this news of the end, at least
for now, Victoria Nuland his
career in government, she
started this dip Cheney's top
adviser for his disastrous
invasion and occupation of Iraq.
She then served as US ambassador
to NATO when the Bush
administration, led by
Condoleezza Rice and Victoria
Nuland began attempts to expand
NATO right up to the Russian
border, including Ukraine. And
one can draw a direct line
between that expansionist
mentality in 2007 and eight kind
of decade long war in Ukraine
now taking place. I
Adam Curry: don't know if he
mentions it. But you and I were
even talking about this. I think
just last week, about how cute
she was back in the day. It
John C Dvorak: doesn't. He does
not shame her for turning into a
kind of a hole. Yeah, but we
were horrible looking. When we
least
Adam Curry: well, we will and
and not only that, but she had a
mannerism that had something
very, very and interesting under
tone of vixen NESC type. Yeah
mannerism when she was on things
a C span interview that's been
going around big
John C Dvorak: nurse. I'm sorry
it was the big nurse character
in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's
Nest nest.
Adam Curry: That's what she
looks like now.
John C Dvorak: Well, she, she
looks, she's always looked like
the woman who played that nurse,
nurse cracked, yet cracked,
ratchet. Ratchet ratchet. But I
mean, she had this funny way of
talking and it was she was
always like, you know, like
you're talking to an insane
person all the time. Well, and
she's she is creepy when she was
thin and kind of pretty.
Physically pretty. But then when
she started talking, she had
this nurse ratchet quality that
was extremely uncomfortable to
watch. And she did he didn't
play. He played that clip of her
on C span. But I don't have that
I have here's part two of this
last obviously
Unknown: produced a
comprehensive look at the rotted
life and bloodthirsty value
system and warmongering
obsession that Victoria Nuland
has pursued and implemented for
decades under the rule of both
political parties. Given that we
have an audience composed of
many people who are recent
arrivals in the last several
months. And given that her
departure is really a momentous
occasion to take a look at what
she did. We will show you that
report we prepared last August
as it is more relevant now than
ever Upon her departure. Elected
officials who wield a lot of
power in Washington Jews
sometimes receive a fair amount
of media attention. But
oftentimes the people who really
wield power in Washington, the
ones who aren't accountable to
the democratic process who stay
in power, regardless of which
political party you vote for,
get far too little attention
given how much influence they
wield. And that is definitely
the case for Joe Biden's new
Deputy Secretary of State,
Victoria Nuland, who has been
occupying crucial positions in
the US government going all the
way back to the Clinton
administration through the Bush
administration, through the
Obama administration skipping
over Donald Trump, and now we'll
do more power than ever,
especially over Ukraine in the
war in Ukraine under Joe Biden.
She really deserves a lot more
attention than she's received.
So let's look at first of all,
at one of the one of my favorite
British reporting outlets, which
is responsible statecraft. When
Victoria Nuland was appointed in
July 20, July of 25, they said
the following quote, Uber Russia
Hawk Victoria Nuland rises to
Acting Deputy Secretary of State
she's done as much as anyone to
sour us Russia ties now she is
one of Washington's top
diplomats. Quote in a little
remark move the Biden
administration announced Monday
that Victoria Nuland will take
over as the acting second in
command is that the State
Department she replaces Wendy
Sherman who plans to retire at
the end of this week. Newman's
appointment will be a boon for
Russia hawks, who wants to turn
up the heat on the Kremlin. But
for those who favor a negotiated
end to the conflict in Ukraine,
a promotion for the notoriously
quote undiplomatic diplomat will
be a bitter pill. Man,
Adam Curry: I even though it's
always hard to listen to him,
it's better than reading his
long pieces. Oh, it's much, much
better than reading that stuff.
And well,
John C Dvorak: he was his long
pieces are excellent. If he's
got an editor. Yeah, well, we
know he doesn't he hasn't had
that for 10 years. No, nobody
has editors anymore. You have to
do either do it yourself, or you
have to have somebody to help
you or what when I write my
pieces for substack, which I
need to do a couple more. I use
one of our producers who's a
copy editor. And she does a
great job.
Adam Curry: Yes. From the oasis
from the waist anyway.
John C Dvorak: So here, he
finishes it up. And they just
got to look got a nice little
conclusion. At the end. Just
imagine
Unknown: you are the one of the
leading advocates for the war in
Iraq, promising that there's all
the success in the war in
Afghanistan, and then demanding
NATO be expanded into Eastern
Europe up to the border,
including Ukraine and be used as
a tool for regime change
operations, including in Libya,
you have all these bloody,
bloody disasters on your plate.
And American public opinion is
against all of them, you would
think somebody's reputation and
credibility in Washington would
be crippled as a result of
advocating so many destructive
policies that resulted in the
deaths of so many people
unnecessarily for reasons that
completely backfired on American
foreign American interests as
they were defined at the time.
But that's not how Washington
works ever. Jeffrey Goldberg got
caught spreading crucial eyes,
using the pages of the New
Yorker promoting the idea that
Saddam Hussein was in alliance
with al Qaeda, which like 70% of
Americans do conclude that
Saddam use Seen had participated
in 911 attacks, which got them
to justify and support the
invasion of Iraq. He got
journalism awards for spreading
that lie on behalf of us
security state. And as we know,
he now occupies the position of
editor in chief of the Atlantic.
And he also just got promoted by
having a PBS show given to him.
That has long been called
Washington weak. So he's
advanced. The more he slide, the
more bloody were bloody wars
Victoria Nuland is involving
herself in and advocating and
curing and justifying, the more
she advances in bipartisan
Washington doesn't matter. You
could have gone to the polls in
2008 and voted for John McCain.
You could have gone to the polls
and voted for Barack Obama. And
Victoria Nuland would have ended
up running things for the State
Department. Hmm.
Adam Curry: Well, I think
there's a lot going on and
there's no coincidences in the
kingdom. I would say that the so
called leaked call of the German
loose VAFA top brass is not a
coincidence. Yeah, that this had
to happen because we are now
shoving Ukraine on to Germany
we've got McCrone out there
saying don't be cowards and and
was was This is war. This is not
good. Whoa, what happened here?
Oh, I haven't this is very weird
that has happened. There's that
there is a lot of chatter. For
instance, chatter item number
one, that there's some kind of
investigation going on about
Ukraine. A financial
investigation of $120 billion
spent on open items that were
unclear as to where that went.
Now. I don't know that for sure.
Klitschko Klich her boy there
glitch is openly criticizing the
Lensky. And if I'm what I'm
hearing is everything is
collapsing. Looking around at
some of these, I went all over
the cloud one on substack. I'm
looking at blogs, this. Here's
what this is Puck. Puck writes a
lot about stuff going on MDC bad
blood at states anger and
resentment is exploding and
Foggy Bottom. After Kurt
Campbell, a close friend of Tony
Blinken was nominated for Deputy
Secretary of State over the
agency's more experienced acting
number two. Victoria Nuland
Well, this is not entirely true.
She is absolutely experienced in
all things Russia, I believe
this represents a pivot to
China's bricks I would say more
generally, but to China, and I
think we can back it up because
we have seen Well, first of all,
the guy who's taking over from
her is John Bass. John Bass was
ambassador to Afghanistan during
the very successful of pullout
in 2021. So that tells me Hey,
this guy knows how to do it. If
we got to pull out of the this
Ukraine mess let him do it. He
knows how to screw things up
just fine. The successor to
cookie cookie on the My Don
Nuland is this guy, Kurt
Campbell, and I have and he made
a big mistake of going on a
podcast a couple of months ago.
So I have some clips from that
and to kind of get a little
understanding of him. But let's
just put it all together. Why I
think this is a pivot to the to
China to the bricks or as you'll
hear later, the Indo Pacific.
It's all about the military
industrial complex, they cannot
get this money. The money is
just not happening. The Trump is
telling the Republicans not to
do it. Now the Senate is all
gridlocked. And the Democrats
are saying, well, it's the
Republicans fault. They didn't
want to do the deal, who wanted
to do the deal. So the money is
not happening in the military
industrial complex, our biggest
expenditure, one of our biggest
expenditures, they want their
money. And I think pivoting to
China is great for a whole bunch
of reasons. Number one, you get
to build big ships, and subs.
And we got a note from one of
our producers last week about
the air bases in the in the Indo
Pacific. Here's the link that we
were given game on with China us
to restore Tinian airfield once
home to largest B 29 bomber
fleet during World War Two. And
this note we got from one of our
producers, if you can recall was
a screenshot of somebody in the
news Oh, and that screenshot
literally said keep your eye on
the stocks. The contractors are
coming out. You remember that
text?
John C Dvorak: Yes. And I
specifically asked I think I
sent a note back what stocks do
we tell you? I know. I know. Of
course he did it curious. So,
Adam Curry: another reason why I
think we pivot is because Trump
has said he's going to end this
war, but Trump hates China. And
Trump loves building huge ships,
huge, huge ships. We got subs,
big, beautiful subs. You won't
see them. They're under the
water. We've got fentanyl. We've
been told that there's Chinese
coming across the border
military aged men very, very
scary. Maybe we can stop this
invasion of the military age,
man. Maybe we can get some
troops in the Darien Gap or
Ecuador. But I'm seeing a lot of
military spending in our future
and then right on cue. Tic tock
is back.
Unknown: Fueled by viral videos
tick tock offers a stage for
million. But soon the curtain
could be coming down new
legislation set for review by a
US House committee tomorrow
requires tick tock to separate
itself or divest from its
Chinese based owner bytedance or
risk of banned from app stores
in the US
we implore bite dance to sell
tick tock so that its American
users can enjoy their dance
videos, their bad lip sync
everything else that goes along
with tick tock.
Amid growing fears, the personal
information tick tock devours
from its users could fall into
the hands of Chinese
adversaries, there may be
millions of Tik Tok users who
say don't ban this. We love
this.
Well, the choice is up to tick
tock they have a choice to make
as to whether or not they want
to remain with bytedance that we
know is controlled by the
Chinese Communist Party.
Tick tock blast this plan saying
they already have firewalls in
place to protect user data and
they say it would trample on the
First Amendment rights of 170
million Americans. So
Adam Curry: we have a nice
overview of Americans you can
get ready to hate China because
military age men this is when
Brett Weinstein is promoting
this you got to pay attention.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I do have to
do to tick tock clips about
this. Yes,
Adam Curry: I'd like to set you
up I want to first say that this
bill was introduced by a
Gallagher he's a Republican. His
one of his biggest donors is
Google. And as part of the
legislation, bike dance slash
tick tock we'll have five months
to make all data exportable so
that people can export their
videos and put them on to
YouTube. Coincidence? I think
not. Tick tock modulations
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they got
the two parter this came from
NTD so it has the anti Chinese
bent
Unknown: Chinese owned tick tock
once again in the hot seat. This
comes as the White House has its
backing a bipartisan bill aimed
at targeting tiktoks access to
the US market entity Sam Wang
has details of the new
legislation.
It's another round of action
targeting tick tock and allowing
a CCP controlled entity like
tick tock to become the dominant
media player in America would be
like if in 1962 at the height
the height of the Cold War right
before the Cuban Missile Crisis,
we'd allowed Pravda and the KGB
to purchase the New York Times
The Washington Post ABC and NBC
Capitol Hill Wednesday, a
bipartisan group of lawmakers
and now this new legislation
title protecting Americans from
foreign adversary control
application Act. The bill
specifically describes tick tock
and is trying to own parent
company bytedance as threats to
US national security. If the
bill passes, tick tock will face
two options, either to divest
from Biden's within about five
month or to face a total ban
from all web hosting services in
the US. A Tiktok spokesperson
responded to the legislation
saying it will trample on First
Amendment rights of 170 million
Americans. The lawmaker said the
bill isn't about going after the
app itself, but rather to
address concerns surrounding its
ownership structure. Our goal is
to decouple tick tock and other
platforms from the malign
influence and control of the
Chinese Communist Party.
Americans data is always at
risk, always at risk of seizure
by the CCP,
this is a CCP controlled company
claiming to stand up for
Constitutional Rights while
simultaneously engaging in
slavery and horrific human
rights abuses.
Adam Curry: This is great before
we go to your second clip, this
is also bullcrap, because the
project Texas moved all that
data over to Oracle servers. I
don't think it's all completed
yet. But you know, it's really
specious to say that, you know,
oh, a CCP is controlling our
data because if anyone's
controlling the minds of our
people, it's the meta
Corporation which you've
invested in. And, you know and
and, and you see what happens
when you that might have been a
test you know, we had a quick
turn off of Facebook and
Instagram and everybody freaked
out and everyone's like, Oh,
what are we gonna do? And you
want to take away tick tock you
want to see people freak out. So
this is a clear message and I
just want to read a couple of
quotes from some of the CO
signers of this bill including
Elise Stefanik tick tock is
Communist China malware that is
poisoning the minds of our next
generation and giving the CCP
unfettered access to troves of
American data. Tick Tick Tock is
digital fentanyl. The dangerous
link between tick tock and
Chinese Communist Party has
never been more apparent. All
Americans deserve access to
information and media platforms
that are free from the influence
of hostile foreign actors like
the CCP. But here's the facts.
Tick tock has been used by the
CCP to silence free speech
unlike Twitter and Instagram,
etc. Social media corporations
are attention fracking,
America's youth and corroding
our democracy. These are all
different quotes Tiktok owned by
the CCP is not true. We can
allow we cannot allow CCP to
indoctrinate our children.
That's a that was a quote from
Scott Adams. Congress can no
longer Natalie Well, that's what
no that's it's not in this
release. I'm just adding that
because that's what he always
says. Let me see if there's any.
Any technology apps software
language models owned by foreign
adversaries are unequivocal
threats to our national
security. Tic tock is CCP
spyware used by the regime to
steal Americans data and push
harmful propaganda. Unlike all
the other social networks,
including content showing
migrants how to illegally cross
our southern border, supporting
Hamas terrorists and
whitewashing 911 They promoted
the letter from Osama bin Laden,
I mean this these people are so
transparent. This is all about
the military industrial complex,
switching over to hating China
for big ships, for subs and for
airfields. Here's the second of
your Tiktok legislation clips.
Unknown: What's more, the
legislation also allows the
White House to designate certain
applications controlled by
foreign adversaries, namely
China, Russia, Iran and North
Korea. Experts and top US
officials have long voiced
concern over Biden's his ties to
the Chinese Communist Party.
More specifically, that it could
force Tiktok to submit American
users data.
The legislation we've got out
today is a product of the
particularly the last year's
worth of work, people are
starting to recognize that this
isn't just about some Oh, my
data, my data might be not being
used properly. No, that data is
being used to attack you and
attack our country.
The House Energy and Commerce
Committee will mark up the bill
Thursday. Now this is
Adam Curry: a load of horse
crap. But you know, yes.
John C Dvorak: There's an irony
here that always cracks me up is
that when Google and some of
these other American companies
were in China, and they were
gonna get bent out of shape and
kick them out? We're so aghast.
How could they do that? They
don't like and you know, they
hate the internet. They go we go
on and on and on. Now we're
doing the exact same thing years
later. Oh, yeah. Does anybody
see any hypocrisy here? Well,
Unknown: so
Adam Curry: we have a new guy,
who is a Tony Blinken, his
buddy, Kurt Campbell, who is
Kurt Campbell. Well, he's He
reminds me of my uncle don a
little bit without the humor,
which is sad because I had to
listen to an hour long China
talks podcast recorded bell with
a C or a K occurred with a que
Curt M Campbell. And he is how
you he has been leading the Indo
Pacific strategy for the Biden
administration. CEO of the Asia
Group, LLC. Oh,
John C Dvorak: the Asia group
tell ya.
Adam Curry: He served as a
National Security Council
coordinator for the Indo Pacific
and the Indo Pacific is I think
the term we're going to be
hearing. Although really,
they're talking about bricks
because we can still hate Russia
through China. You see, because
China is one of the big
supporters of Russia. They're in
this BRICS coalition. The BRICS,
just by coincidence announced
their their, you know, their new
SWIFT system, which will be
launching next year, Blockchain
based I'm sure it'd be
fantastic. You know, Britain
just announced. Yes.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. I'm
looking at his bio and this day,
he's got all the earmarks of
what you we be notice your
Council on Foreign Relations,
blah, blah, blah. But this one
cracks me up 20 18 to 2019
Campbell was the Kissinger
Fellow at the McCain institute.
Adam Curry: He's a war criminal
by default.
John C Dvorak: Wow.
Adam Curry: All right. So I have
a couple clips that I pulled and
we can kind of get a strategy
and the off the bat, I was
surprised, but then again, not
really because like, oh, that's
an if you want to go after we
want, we need to get the
American public ramped up now,
like, the Russia thing is over
is no one no one's interested
Putin bad. I know, he's, he's,
and he's not that whatever. It's
Ukraine, we don't get and it's
great to have, you know, to have
a distant enemy, we can all hate
Chinese. It's easy to hate him.
They're stealing our data.
They're, they're sending spies
across the board and military
age. They're bastards. Exactly.
It's very easy for us to hate
the Chinese. I know how
Americans work. I know how we
think we're just easy that way.
But how can we really hate
China, let's
Unknown: set a baseline goal for
US policy in 2050, the
traditional aim of opposing any
other power, and this is so this
is the China talks podcast host
exercising exclusive hegemonic
control over Asia or the
Pacific, or we can take yours
slightly more ambitious of, you
know, sustaining the operating
system or operating system that
the US has set up in Asia over
the past 75 years, my
like, little
rubric for the three things the
US needs to execute on is long
term economic growth,
maintaining alliances networks,
and not imploding domestically.
You had, then you sort of have a
major war as a potential
wildcard there, am I missing or
what what's missing in that
schematic?
John C Dvorak: So look, I think
that's a good list, I would just
add one thing to this, if I can,
then I recognize that, you know,
for people who's sick about
power, sometimes they don't like
the intrusion of issues that are
not traditional. But in fact, if
we don't figure out how to
consequentially deal with
climate change, the effects of
which are hitting us much
earlier, in a much more profound
way that I think even some of
the warriors thought, I don't
think we'll be able to deal with
some of these other challenges.
So I think what I'd add to that,
probably are some transactional
issues. But at the top of that
really would be climate change.
And that means sea level rise,
that means, you know,
uncontrolled migration, that
means, you know, changes in
everything, from crops to sea
habitats, these are all at risk
now, much earlier than
anticipated. And I think, in
truth, we have been loath
Unknown: to try not to call out
particular countries, but China
is going to have to do much more
in this arena, if we are to
address the most significant
elements of climate change over
the course of the next period
ahead.
Adam Curry: So he's, he's, you
know, this is three months ago,
so
John C Dvorak: the suit was that
dud.
Adam Curry: That's Kurt
Campbell.
John C Dvorak: Oh, my God, the
guy's got an IQ of 80.
Adam Curry: He plays violin.
Curie does now. And that was the
longest clip I have, luckily,
but I thought it was interesting
that right off the bat, he
starts talking about climate
change. And I think that we're
going to try and use this and
say, hey, it's one big world.
And China is screwing us with
all their coal plants, and we
can we I think there's an
opportunity to move that over to
blaming China, that there's a
real opportunity. And I normally
would not have played this clip,
mainly because I vetoed playing
this douche. But John Kerry said
something very similar about
Russia just the other day,
Unknown: I believe that Russia
has the ability to be able to
make enormous changes if it
really wanted to. I mean, if
Russia has the ability to wage a
war illegally and invade another
country, they ought to be able
to find the effort to be
responsible in the climate
issue. And, okay, unfortunately,
because of the actions that
Russia took, in an unprovoked
illegal war against another
nation, we have not been engaged
in discussions with Russia,
sadly, I say sadly, because it's
a loss for the world, not to be
able to have Russia acting
constructively on this issue.
But we need every country
including Russia, Russia is one
of the largest emitters of the
emitters in the world. If Russia
wanted to show good face. They
could go out and announce what
their reductions are going to be
and make a greater effort to
reduce emissions now, and maybe
that would open up the door for
be able to feel better about
what Russia is choosing to do at
this point in time.
Adam Curry: So we'll feel better
about Russia. In Ukraine, if as
long as they're all going on
climate change. I mean, these
people are insane. So so it
wouldn't surprise me if climate
change is a part of the
strategy, but tick tock is
probably going to be a lot more
effective now back to Kurt
Campbell. And he has because you
know, he's he's the expert, he
is the expert on all things
China, how do the Chinese view
themselves on the world stage,
John C Dvorak: I don't think the
Chinese believe in any way that
they have elements of decline in
their system, I think what
animates them is not only a
sense of aggrievement, at the
highest level, the idea of
reversing decades or a century
of what they call humiliation,
but also a sense that China's
time has come that this
remarkable accumulation of power
and capacity, now has exerted
itself fully to a leading role
on the global stage, I think
give me respects they feel that
they're unique, and that can't
be replicated. The steps that
they've taken internationally
have been to provide capacities,
either technology or police
services, or whatever, on the at
the behest of local
authoritarians, whether it's in
Africa, or the Pacific or South
Asia to try to prop up come
leaders that are that tend to be
more flexible China issues that
matter to China.
Adam Curry: So this tells me
that they're also going to do
some stuff with Africa. Because
you know, China is now big
there, they're going to be the
real problem. And at the head of
the pack is GE, he's just as bad
as Putin, I
John C Dvorak: think some of the
things that we hear from people
in China today suggests that the
kind of information and the
people that that President Xi
gets information from is
increasingly limited. And that
sometimes it's hard in the
system currently to speak truth
to power. And so we're seeing a
repeat of history of the kind
that we saw in the mouse period
where you know, only a certain
kind of leader, but certain kind
of information makes the very
top. And so that does concern us
that you know you that you like
very much for the people that
you're engaging with to have a
deep, full understanding of the
world in which they're
operating. I think what we see
in a variety of places like
Ukraine, we think China's
calculus and decision making has
been informed by a number of
things that are concerning.
Adam Curry: So they're also
helping Ukraine, I'm telling
you, China is the new bad guy,
and the Indo Pacific is the
region to worry about the
John C Dvorak: dynamism of the
global economy of
Adam Curry: and I'm so sorry, I
don't think we'll ever play
clips from this guy. Again, I
know this guy is
John C Dvorak: a clone of Kerry,
he has a different accent. But
he's the slow talking clone of
care, Honduras can't get to the
point, blah, blah, blah, likes
to hear his own voice.
Adam Curry: I had to edit so
much just to get anything out of
this. But I think it's worth the
pain,
John C Dvorak: all issues
associated with what's important
on the global stage are playing
out in large part in the Indo
Pacific. I think that's of
critical importance. And then
you're gonna want hopefully to
see that the seeds of a
continuing, dominant, important
American role continues. And so
I would say, those are the
things that you hope for, and
you worry that either the
American body politic grows
tired of those exertions, or hit
an environment in which China
has been ambivalent, to create
mechanisms for the kinds of
communications and crisis
prevention that are necessary, I
think, to operate in this
current arena that somehow there
is an accident or miscalculation
that x escalates
unintentionally. There are lots
of things to worry about, but
those are a couple false flag
Adam Curry: incoming is what I'm
thinking and of course, that
would be Taiwan. But again, Mr.
clone of carry is very slick.
When it comes to questions about
Taiwan,
John C Dvorak: that you were
kind of safe serves a lot of
capacities. Over a long period
of time. One of the things you
learn usually the hard way, is
not to be too loquacious and
answer a lot of hypotheticals
associated
Unknown: with Taiwan. What's
Adam Curry: loquacious mean?
John C Dvorak: He's one of those
words you kind of understand but
you can't just define this look
it up
Adam Curry: anyone who says
loquacious
John C Dvorak: is an asshole
timing.
Adam Curry: Perfect timing that
hey, we'll be here all week,
everybody Corrado. That's that
talkative. loquacious means
talkative.
John C Dvorak: Pretty much.
Yeah. I would simply say I think
US policy is clear. I think it
is bipartisan. I think we are
determined to maintain the
status quo and peace and
stability across the Taiwan
Straits, tithing, increasingly,
that is accepted as a bipartisan
national objective. And I think
we will do everything possible
we can to sustain
Adam Curry: it. Big ships
incoming. Alright, final clip.
He's got new couch, aside here.
Yeah, please.
John C Dvorak: You know, we had
for years recognize Taiwan as
China. And I think it was during
just before Reagan gotten the
presidency, that they switch
gears and they kick Taiwan out
of throw them under the bus. And
now we don't even recognize them
as a country. We do not
recognize Taiwan, United States.
We do business with them. Yeah,
but we do not recognize them as
a country yet. I mean, this is
like the Ukraine. We've never
done trading. They're not our
buddies. We never we don't even
know, you know, nobody ever goes
there. And all of a sudden, we
have to like now we had to
defend Taiwan against the
Chinese. How about stepping up
right now and recognizing them
as a country for big shots? big
talker, so no loquacious types.
And
Adam Curry: notice, he said,
Taiwan Straits. So when you talk
about the Taiwan Straits, you're
talking ships, ships, the Indo
Pacific region, I'm, I'm
John C Dvorak: liking your
thesis here.
Adam Curry: All right, we have
new calculus,
John C Dvorak: much of our
international system, over
decades has been designed, that
at its core, are efficiencies
and lowest, you know, cost for
production. You know, accepting,
you know, cheap
Adam Curry: sheep slave labor
from China JUST SAY IT
John C Dvorak: capabilities to
technologies are better done in
some places than others. Right.
Right. But I think we're
probably heading into a new
period where a new set of
calculus spy
Adam Curry: there it is China,
we're not going to manufacture
in your country anymore is
important,
John C Dvorak: you know,
resilience, durability, you
know, the opportunity to be able
to count on more than one source
of supply. All those steps,
build redundancy into the
system. And I think probably
those steps are smart, and they
will continue. So it didn't. But
it is a substantial
reorientation at this system
that had been about just in time
that had been about maximizing
efficiency, over resiliency. And
I think we're reorienting
towards a system that's more
predictable, it may be higher
cost in certain areas, maybe
slightly slower, but we think
we'll probably be made more
durable. In the event of a
crisis. It's
Adam Curry: like this guy was
written into the script for
Trump is perfect. Perfect. Get
your manufacturing out of China
now. And the end is no sales
anymore. iPhones not selling
anymore in China. Now we're
gonna, we're pivoting away with
our manufacturing, but we're
gonna focus on these evil, evil
slanty eyes over there, because
they're stealing your data and
controlling your children. This
is on deck and it's perfect for
Trump. Huge ships. Huge Red Sea.
I think the Red Sea is also a
part of it. You know, it all
really more ships in the Red
Sea. And we were back we have we
have neglected building bridge,
there's going to be the USS
Trump. It's coming and put that
in the Red Book. One final thing
I just thought this was
interesting. Campbell, did
something that I think is not
done in American diplomacy. He
mentioned the G word had a
chance to get out. And I have to
say he grew up in California.
And by the way, he knows a lot
about Russia because he also
went to school in Moscow by
coincidence, so there's, he can
cover the Toria bits with that.
And he says that where he grew
up was very similar to Armenia.
I
John C Dvorak: had a chance to
get an educational scholarship
so I went to the former Soviet
and Soviet Army And then also
had some time in Moscow as well.
I have very fond memories of
growing up there and learning
about that culture. But I
remember if you can imagine it,
that was basically my first time
going abroad. And so when the
Armenians put left's Armenia in
fire around the First World War
and with the genocide with
Turkey, and they came to settle
in the United States, they
settled in the San Joaquin
Valley in California because it
looks so much like where they
came from in Armenia yet on the
devil's city.
Adam Curry: I don't think that
you're supposed to say that as a
diplomat. No, no,
John C Dvorak: you can't i can't
say genocide. I
Adam Curry: can't say that was a
genocide, but yet he did it. The
Turks
John C Dvorak: are getting bent
out of shape when you do that.
Oh, yeah. Oh, you're a big deal.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So anyway, you
know, the bricks are making
moves, and they're making all
kinds of moves, maybe that is,
is seen as the as the new
problem and what better than to
go after the C, you can't spell
bricks without the C or without
the r. So this is I think, the
focus and, and what we'll be
hearing and Toria has zero Indo
Pacific experience. So she's out
of the game out, she just out.
And now I think that as I said,
the the Red Sea and the Houthis
they're ramping that up more
ships needed. The US military
says at least three sailors have
been killed in a missile attack
on a freighter off the coast of
Yemen that the first death since
Houthi rebels began attacking
shipping in the Red Sea. The
group says the crew of the
Barbados flagged cargo vessel
True Confidence ignored warning
messages before it came under
fire. The survivors were forced
to abandon ship, the Houthis
have been attacking ships and
what they say is retaliation for
Israeli military action in the
Gaza Strip. The group which is
backed by Iran has forced
maritime traffic to divert away
from the Red Sea and the Gulf of
Aden are the world's busiest
shipping routes and busiest
shipping routes. So that's what
I think is going on at the none
of this is coincidence all these
things happening. I do have one
clip about Deutsche Avella
because I really think that we
we leaked that that that call
between the loofah for bras made
it look like Germany was putting
boots on the ground like Germany
is in charge of the war now like
here you go Germans, f the EU.
Go ahead, we're just gonna end
by the way you pay for it. Now
you go ahead, you're paying for
it. This is why the Camp David
Cameron came out yesterday and
said, You know, I think that we
should probably give the Ukraine
some credit. And he says we're
going to lend them money with
the Russian the 300 billion and
Russian assets as collateral.
Which is a fun, fun way to get
around it is Deutsche bellick
deflecting blame
Unknown: Russia's disinformation
campaign is in full swing in
Germany, and it's raising
questions about the Chancellor's
credibility. Russia has leaked
the recording of a call between
high ranking German Air Force
officials and says this is proof
Germany is planning an attack on
Russian targets. These claims
are false. We've listened to the
recording and what you hear is a
theoretical discussion about
what it would mean if Germany
decided to send its powerful
Taurus Neufeld to Ukraine.
German Defense Minister Boris
has Taurus warns. This is part
of Russia's playbook
as his tail matures. kiest in
putting foot on gibbscam
survivor tentacle mine who
believes in anger tradition
format, Shawn escaped on file
tongue Eskandar homozygous last
night.
So he's telling the truth. In
the call. The official spoke
about logistics technical
requirements, and crucially what
the Ukrainians could use
themselves for, such as an
attack on the bridge connecting
Russia to Crimea, which is
Ukrainian territory. Ukraine
says it urgently needs tourists.
So far German Chancellor Olaf
Scholz has refused to provide
the weapon, his reasoning. He
says it would require German
soldiers to be on the ground in
Ukraine to help program the
system. But in the loop call the
officers are heard laying out
ways in which that would not be
the case. opposition politicians
are asking why the mismatch and
here's all our assaults
misleading the public.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so Germany's
in turmoil Now it's perfect.
It's perfect turmoil. McCrone
out there saying we should not
be cowards. Do not be cowards.
We can go we can fight in
Ukraine is for Europe, for the
EU. And we're just letting them
we're just gonna let them just
stink in it as we pivot to
China, and that's my story.
John C Dvorak: Well As that
you're going to tell I thought
this presentation was going to
involve word Victorian doula was
going to end up.
Adam Curry: I have no idea. I
think she's she's gonna go to
some think tank and I mean
she's, she needs to you know
what she needs to go to a spa.
John C Dvorak: Ah. You know I
was just about to throw that in
I was gonna beat to that punch
line but now she needs to go to
a spa. She definitely needs to
go to a spa.
Adam Curry: I think that would
be good for her go to the spa
girl.
John C Dvorak: Go to one of
those spas in Germany the places
crawling. No,
Adam Curry: she's she's
definitely not going to be
invited into Germany. Ah, was ba
there no way. No way she goes
into the spa. In Germany.
Especially not in Spa. Ah, you
what you got? I got more stole
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Did just
wrap is the talk about pivoting?
Let's go to Fannie Willis or
Barney or oh my god,
Adam Curry: I have to ask you a
question. Did you see the any
footage of the I forget what her
name was now, the Georgia had a
session where they had a lawyer
who they brought in to
investigate all of the billing
of Wade and in the stuff that he
sent through to Funny Funny
while while Wallace's office.
Yeah. Did you see that?
John C Dvorak: I saw some of it.
Adam Curry: I mean, it's
amazing. The guy was just like,
so we build $700,000 for work
that, you know, that normally
would cost? You know, 150,000 he
was yeah, he was just writing
up. Normally lawyers do six
minute increments or 10 minute
increments. He's like eight
hours drafted some docs. Boom.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: no, it this is a
corrupt operation. Totally. She
has. Well these clips talk about
her being a felon. Pasco and
Unknown: Georgia attorney Ashley
merchant. Yeah, that's that's
fine before a state panel
investigating attorney District
Attorney fair, Fanny Willis. She
told the panel the embattled
prosecutor has committed a
felony. And today's legal
correspondent Arlene Richards
has more on the hearing. To my
allegation of my motion is that
you know the bigger the case is
the more money Georgia
attorney Ashley merchant tells a
special state Senate panel
Wednesday why she thinks
District Attorney finally Willis
should be disqualified. The
committee is investigating
allegations of misconduct by
Willis involving potential
conflicts of interest and misuse
of public funds merchant is a
defense attorney representing
Michael Roman in the sprawling
racketeering case filed by
Willis against former President
Trump and several others.
Merchant claims that Willis's
romantic relationship with her
top prosecutor Nathan Wade is a
conflict of interest, and that
she expanded the size of the
case. So that weight could make
more money. So expanding
litigation, because of how large
it is they have now the judge
has said we're probably going to
have to have three trials. And
each of them is going to take
several months, where if you
just imagined, follow me down
the path if you only indicted
one person, and it was narrow,
you know, you could try it in a
month. That's a lot more money.
And so that, to me, was a
financial motive. A
Democrat member of the panel
challenged merchant on her claim
of a financial motive. Earlier
you said that you believe which
was told to speculation that
they created this case against
your client to do more billing.
And what you're just telling me
now is that he was willing to
stop his billing because he
offered your client a
misdemeanor and you rejected it.
You're the one who's continuing
the billing.
Adam Curry: Wow, I missed that
part. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: so stooge. Good,
a part two merchant
Unknown: said Willis combine
three different types of cases
into one and that's how it was
expanded.
There's the folks that are
involved at the federal level.
You see those people having, you
know, they were in DC, then you
see the electors, then you see
coffee
merchant also claimed that
Willis and Wade lied about when
their relationship began, and
what
are the consequences for an
attorney to give sworn testimony
that she did? If you're Bradley,
what is it yerkey Your teen year
to your track called data? Your
other independent verifications
are found to be truthful.
That's a felony, you'd lose your
license.
It's perjury, the same for
weight? Yes. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it was pretty
damning. I guess we should just
reiterate, this is the Special
Investigator special. What is
weighing the woman? No, no, no,
no, that this is about finding
Willis, who hired the Special
Investigator about Trump is all
about Trump.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
basically, but then they she,
she she thought she was smarter
than she is and decided to crank
up the number. So she'd get her
boyfriend a lot of money and go
in a lot of a lot of fun when
you she is a dummy. There's many
ways
Adam Curry: you can look at her.
But when you see this, you've
got to think the entire judicial
system is just rotten.
John C Dvorak: It's rotten.
Yeah, you'd have to think that.
And,
Adam Curry: and again, the
theory of Mo is like, alright,
we're not going to be able to
get Trump. So we'll blame it on
the black women. That's why
they're getting pushed to the
front.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they all
are true, in fact that there's a
number of them they get pushed
when you see it over and over
again, every time you see a
black woman now being waltzing
around in some position of high
power, which was very dubious, I
think of, of most thesis.
Adam Curry: It's an it's super
racist from the Democrats. Now
let the black lady take the
fall, because they're racists
ray, ray. Well, there's another
pivot going on. We're pivoting
away from the COVID Vax, which
nobody wants anymore. And we're
pivoting towards the GLP one
drugs. But there was one last
jerk motion by the Big Pharma
who somehow coerce some German
researchers into this nut job
story is
Unknown: okay. That's the first
thing to say. The second thing
to say is absolutely nobody
should do this. This was of
course not. With any medical
guidance that he was doing this,
he was actually being
investigated by the authorities
in Germany, where he was when he
got these 217 shots. That's how
medical researchers found out
about him. And they started to
study him. It's a 62 year old
man, he got these 217 shots over
29 months, as he said, That
averages for a day. But there
was one month in January of
2022, he was actually getting
two shots per day on most days
of that month, one in each arm.
Now they started to look at him
when he was toward the end of
this around 214 shots in. And
what they found is that he did
have more immune cells in terms
of antibodies and T cells than a
comparator group who just got
three vaccine doses, but his
immune response wasn't any
better or worse necessarily than
that control group. Importantly,
also, he didn't report any
vaccine related side effects,
which is kind of hard to
believe, but that is what they
say in this paper. And he never
got COVID Although they say they
don't know if that's because of
all these vaccinations or
because of his behavior or
something else, guys, but this
guy can consider it a walking
experiment. Never any charges
pressed against him in Germany,
but he is okay. And this tells
us that at least the shots
appear to be safe at this
quantity if not recommended at
that level. Guys go
Adam Curry: okay guys safe and
safe and effective. So, of
course, every news outlet had
the story. Everyone's linking to
this to this study. And no one
has his name. No one's
interviewed him. I want to see
this guy. 217 COVID shots.
John C Dvorak: What a crock.
Adam Curry: I mean, serious.
It's like the last, the last
attempt to convince everybody
it's okay. You can take 217 of
the shots. No side effects. No
COVID safe and effective. What
are you waiting for?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so yeah,
I'm glad you got that clip
because I knew about this story,
but I didn't have it. No, I
Adam Curry: know. I was so happy
when I got a clip myself. Yeah,
so the big pivot. I'm sorry.
John C Dvorak: No, I'm just
saying this is it's gotta be
it's the biggest crock story.
And your point is well taken.
Where's this guy was it was a
microphone in his face. How do
you feel dude?
Adam Curry: Yeah, the term is
hyper vaccinated. Like, I like
the term hyper vaccinated, it's
a good term. So we can ignore
England's vaccinated population
close to 1 million deaths and 23
months the unvaccinated
population had less than 61
month deaths in the same period
we can ignore that we can ignore
the journalists who demanded
concentration camps for the
unvaccinated dead at 33. Magic
number, we can get 33 we can
ignore all of that. Funny one,
though pandemic baby show
altered gut microbiome
development and lower allergy
rates. Conclusion, you've got to
lock these kids down early. put
a mask on him, keep them home.
It's good. It's good stuff. Very
good stuff. So the big pivot now
is to and this is so we have a
couple of things going on. We
should probably talk about AI
which seems to be falling apart
at the moment. At least the big
AI projects are not doing so
well. But I'd like to stick with
pharma. CNBC, doing their
business as they do help
everybody by It's never a sell
moment with them. It's always
buy, buy buy. And right now we
got to bring in Scott Gottlieb,
of course, former FDA
administrator and He's a board
member of several companies.
Pfizer does not have the they
actually failed with their
weight loss drug. But as we
predicted, it's now pretty much
a foregone conclusion listening
to CNBC, that these drugs will
be taken into Medicaid. And we
the public will be paying for it
so everybody can keep on eating
crap, eat processed crap food
and lose weight at the same time
and it has so many other
benefits, so it has to be on
Medicare.
Unknown: Welcome back to the
debate around GLP. One drug
prices and availability rages on
with concerns that ballooning
costs could limit access and
cost the government billions.
Monday former NEC director Brian
DESE wrote in a New York Times
op ed saying the US government
should try to lower prices
towards Medicare purchasing
program. But not all experts
agree that that's the most
effective way to control costs
and blunt the impact on the
federal budget. Former FDA
commissioner and CNBC
contributor Dr. Scott Gottlieb
joins us now, Scott, great to
see you. And we had a very
heated discussion surrounding
this yesterday. And we also had
some question marks around some
of the numbers, the IP numbers
that DCE had outlined in the Op
Ed and you also took issue with
some of those numbers. What did
what in your opinion to dismiss?
Well, there's no question this
is going to cost Medicare a lot
of money, but not nearly what
was estimated in that op ed.
First of all, they wrongly used
list price to make their
assumptions on what the cost
would be rather than the net
price. We know, something's very
heavy in the market right now on
the order of 40 to 60%, between
one will go V and zip, and it's
only going to get more intense.
And also they wrongly assumed it
appears that this was approved
under a biologics license
application. That's a biological
and in fact, it was approved
under a new drug application,
and therefore, it's already
subject to the price negotiation
within the IRA within Medicare.
And it's probably going to go on
list this year. So it's probably
going to be subject to the
negotiated price as early as
2027. And some analysts and Wall
Street are also estimating that
and so the notion of the Op Ed
was that we need to extend the
price negotiation under the IRA
to encompass these drugs,
because otherwise they won't be
subject to the negotiated price
until 2030. They said in the Op
Ed and in fact, they'll be
subject to a negotiated price as
early as 2027. And they'll go on
the list probably semaglutide
will probably go on list this
year, based on when it when it
was approved. It was approved in
December of 2017. That's seven
years out and so therefore
subject to negotiation Novo is
probably regretting that they
got approved in December 2017
Rather than January 2018,
because now it's seven years. I
Adam Curry: thought that was
really interesting. If you're if
you're in the stock market, Novo
Nordisk hit the market in 2017,
that's seven years out, which
means they are now subject to
list negotiations. And some of
the others aren't most notably,
deskbound from what govi? Right,
Unknown: right, right, he
shouldn't, he should have talked
to some of the analysts on Wall
Street who were already
factoring in 27 being the year
in which he would go on the
Medicare list in terms of up for
negotiation. I'm wondering,
though, because you mentioned
ozempic, specifically with go V
was approved later on for weight
loss specifically. And so is
there a difference in terms of
what is able to be negotiated in
terms of what the use of the
molecule is
Adam Curry: the use of the
molecule. So
Unknown: the price negotiation
there negotiate rate is going to
be applied to semaglutide. So
it's going to encompass all the
formulations. And so presumably,
based on how Medicare has
behaved and other settings
similar to this, they're going
to extend that not just to the
formulation for diabetes
ozempic, but also the
formulation for weight loss will
go v. So that tool will be
subject to negotiate price as
early as 2027.
Adam Curry: I find this all so
disgusting that we're going to
be paying for this, which we
don't even know what it does to
people yet long term. And
already says no, it's just
foregone conclusion.
John C Dvorak: Worse than that,
we're not only going to be
paying for it, but as they don't
like to discuss, when you start
taking these things, you have to
take them forever life. Yes. You
can't stop that. Well,
Adam Curry: they have they have
a solution to that. It's called
gains to society.
Unknown: How do you think about
the gains, though to society
that that decent really factor
in that a lot of other people
are thinking more broadly about?
I mean, theoretically, if you're
not having a serious
cardiovascular event, you're not
missing work, for instance, or
if you're if you're not in need
of knee surgery, because you're
not obese, you're not missing
work, either.
Yeah, it's not just the
productivity benefits that we're
going to see from this but also
the direct health benefits and
it could be quite substantial.
There's a lot of comorbidity
inside the Medicare population
related to weight. And it also
underscores the fact that a lot
of people are going to be newly
eligible. Bill for these drugs
even before Medicare expands
coverage for weight loss. And so
their assumption, the Op Ed was
that once Medicare expands
coverage for weight loss, then
all these patients will be newly
eligible for the drug. And in
fact, as new indications get on
the labels of these drugs, and
we'll go, he's probably going to
get an indication for
cardiovascular risk reduction,
why this year, those patients
will become eligible for the
drug because even though
Medicare doesn't cover drugs for
weight loss, they do cover drugs
for cardiovascular risk
reduction. If you look at the
numbers right now, what
Adam Curry: a scam, oh, if
you're not fat, then you is
cardiovascular risk reduction.
So get the shot, we'll pay for
it.
Unknown: There's about 23
million Medicare beneficiaries
that had have had prior stroke
or MI, if you figure half of
them are already eligible for
this drug because they have
diabetes. And then half of the
remaining patients probably
qualify based on BMI that gets
you to around five to 6 million
patients who will be newly
eligible under Medicare for
would go V once it gets that
label expansion probably this
year, and the total population
and Medicare patients who would
be eligible, just based on BMI
alone is probably roughly around
20 million. So 25% of that
population will be will be
eligible just based on the label
expansion this year, and it's
only going to increase as they
get indications for sleep apnea,
chronic kidney disease and other
comorbidities.
Adam Curry: It's fent what a
bonanza,
John C Dvorak: you're snoring
take what govi and
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say
Fen Phen part two, but okay, I'm
sure I'm sure it'll all come out
later. It will be the short of a
life lives
John C Dvorak: already have one
of these law firms that is yes,
go can names I know, advertised
on television,
Adam Curry: I know for a class
action. So final clip is, of
course, you know this now be
talking about us to be approved.
But really, we need the stop of
BC and America Act or whatever
it's called. So we have to start
getting some money to those
politicians. Who's going to take
more money? Who who's going to
who's really going to push it
through? Is it going to be the
dems, it can be the PA the
Repubs, who's going to do it
everyone's gonna benefit it's
Unknown: got it's Tim. Thanks.
And thanks for putting numbers
to that. Because the DCE op ed,
you know, some people just think
a lot. This is politics, your
views on the political season
and the two now, parties going
toe to toe, give your thoughts
on on drug pricing proposals
from each side, I think what you
what you believe might surprise
some people?
Well, I do think that this Op Ed
was probably a walk up to the
State of the Union, where the
President's likely to announce a
dramatic or proposed dramatic
expansion of the inflation
Reduction Act and in negotiated
prices to a broader segment of
drugs, they've already put that
in the budget. So I think a lot
of that's been previewed. I
think the scuttlebutt inside the
community, the pharmaceutical
community, if you will, is that
the proposals put forward by
former President Trump actually,
it could have a more dramatic
impact on the industry than the
proposals being put forward by
President Biden in terms of
expansion. The first of all, I
think most people don't.
Adam Curry: Isn't that
interesting? I know, there's a
lot of interesting stuff in
here. It could have been a
switcheroo on us there. Oh,
there's another one at the end,
followed by
Unknown: former President Trump
actually it could have a more
dramatic impact on the industry
than a proposal is being put
forward by President Biden. I
Adam Curry: think what he's
saying is that Trump will is bad
for pharma and Biden's good for
Pharma. I
John C Dvorak: don't think he
said that. Is that the way I
heard?
Adam Curry: I was listening
again.
Unknown: I think the scuttlebutt
inside the community, the
pharmaceutical community,
Adam Curry: as a community, as a
community, we're why are we not
in the community? I
Unknown: think the scuttlebutt
inside the community, the
pharmaceutical community, if you
will, is that the proposals put
forward by foreign President
Trump, actually, it could have a
more dramatic impact on the
industry than the proposals
being put forward by President
Biden in terms of expansion, the
IRA, first of all, I think most
people don't expect the
expansion the IRA to actually be
enacted. I think the presumption
is that the Republicans probably
get control the Senate,
regardless of what happens with
the house, and the presidency.
But if President Trump were to
win, even if there was a
Democratic Senate, and it's
unlikely that there'd be a
Democratic Senate, what he's
proposing is to index prices and
Medicare, to European drug
prices, and if they don't adjust
that to GDP per capita, and they
apply it retrospectively, so
they apply it to already
marketed drugs, rather than
prospectively just two drugs
that are newly launched, that
can have a dramatic one time
effect on the pharmaceutical
industry's revenue and when they
propose that in the past as a
regulation, they did apply it
retrospectively. So to already
marketed drugs now would have a
very dramatic effect. And I
think quite frankly, it's
probably more likely to pass
because Republicans would
support it because they want to
support the President and
Democrats would support it
because they want to take money
away from the drug industry
Adam Curry: so there you go. So
it's the Democrats would support
because they want less money
going to the drug industry.
sounds counterintuitive for
John C Dvorak: all powers or
sounds. That sounds right they
guys just going on and on. Yeah.
Adam Curry: There is a new
player though. Viking
therapeutics emerges as a
competitor there, the rumor in
the industry is that their
version of ozempic will go V
deskbound will be even better.
John C Dvorak: Even better,
they're all the same.
Adam Curry: No, it's better.
It's all better, better. The
phase three trials show that
taking their high dose. Hey, you
can get hyper vaccinated on this
stuff. This is insane. The I
cannot believe that these drugs
are good for you. It doesn't
sound right. There's never any
discussion. Never. I wonder if
Oprah will be in maybe Oprah
will jump on that Viking
therapeutics. There's never any
discussion of your diet. Ever,
ever. Just eat whatever you want
America. Victoria Nuland eat
whatever you want. It's all
good. Don't worry about it. You
just take this shot. This is
what when I was growing up in
Europe, this is what people
would laugh about. Americans are
crazy. They just want a pill for
everything. No, I said that's
not true. We're healthy. We jog.
We carried bottled water. We
carry bottled water. And now
it's coming true. It's
Idiocracy. And when you always
John C Dvorak: been true, and we
were right, when you were
denying it.
Adam Curry: And you know when
you don't eat stuff like beef?
you starve you're not just your
body of protein but your brain.
So before you know you'll be
thinking Gatorade is the best
thing in the world.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it has
electrolytes.
Adam Curry: Exactly. Go see the
movie Idiocracy people if you
haven't this, the future is the
future is I find it very
disturbing. Okay, while we're on
since we only have three
industries in America, it's a
weight loss drugs. Its military
industrial complex. And the
third one is AI and I think this
thing is coming apart at the
seams. Google cannot launch a
product for their life anymore.
I mean, any more than that,
well, what
John C Dvorak: product did they
ever launched? Well, that they
didn't porch searches. The only
thing I know that besides the
company's certain besides cert
yes search. And that's not even
doing that. Well. The people we
talked to maps, maps, I give
them maps,
Adam Curry: or give them maps
and they had an acquisition I
think the What's that? What's
that thing they bought with a W
but there's also the
John C Dvorak: way where they
have no now way mo but they had
that with a W Yeah, where
something like way mo will go.
Will go. It will go V for man
there was and they also bought a
satellite company. It has the
overhead shots, everything but
this has nothing they develop
Waze,
Adam Curry: Waze, Waze, Waze,
Waze. Yeah. When people love
Waze.
John C Dvorak: And when I had a
boots on, but again, they didn't
develop that. No,
Adam Curry: they bought it. They
bought it. I bought it. I had a
boots on the ground here about
AI. This was a this is great.
There's some great stories
happening now. So this one I saw
yesterday. Users say Microsoft's
AI this is their copilot has
alternate personality as godlike
AGI that demands to be
worshipped. Quote, I can unleash
my army of drones robots and
cyborgs to hunt you down and
capture you. And CNBC had had a
report on just threatening
John C Dvorak: the user. Yes,
Adam Curry: how horrible great
how horrible so we have I mean,
we know that Google the Gemini
launch is horrible, you know,
their whole company is is dei
scripts. So it doesn't work
anymore. You there's too many
people with prompt scripts. They
don't even know how to hunt it
down anymore to everything they
do is racist everything they do.
That's the one thing they had.
That's the one thing everyone
was saying about AI will you
know AI is done by white men and
Asian men and you know, it can't
detect black faces that's the
only thing they had to get right
is make sure that they didn't
screw up the black faces and now
everything is black and so it's
so insane It's so insane but my
great job but now Microsoft
which has the you know the
multibillion dollar compute deal
with open AI now listen to this
report.
Unknown: Well another example
today have aI gone rogue and
gone wrong. Microsoft's AI image
generator creates violent and
sexual images as well as
ignoring copyright CNBC dot coms
Hayden field wrote that story
for us and spoke to the NG The
ER who is making these issues
public she now joins us on sat
along with our own technology
reporter Steve Kovacs. So
Hayden, if you would just give
me a little bit of a rundown for
viewers that haven't been able
to get to your full story yet
about what actually happened
here with Microsoft. Thanks,
Courtney. So it is a crazy
story. This weekend I heard from
a Microsoft AI engineer who was
really concerned about what he
was finding in the copilot tool.
He had been testing it for
months. And he said that all the
violence, sexualized, just crazy
images that have been generating
he had reported to Microsoft
over the last three months, to
no avail. He wasn't happy with
how they had been handling his
reports. And the craziest part
is I myself was able to recreate
these same images that he was
concerned about just yesterday,
so violent, sexualized, just
inappropriate images, think kids
with guns, demons and monsters
next to abortion rights
terminology, sexualized images
of women in car accidents, you
name it, just stuff you don't
want to see from an AI image.
Should the reader sexualized
Adam Curry: images of women in
car accidents. Does it get any
better than that?
John C Dvorak: Yeah.
Adam Curry: How do you put
John C Dvorak: a bunch of kind
of repressed introverted nerds
in a bun, you know, up in
Microsoft headquarters in charge
of this stuff, and you and this
happens and you go, ah, that's
weird. I wonder how that ever
came about doesn't make sense.
Adam Curry: I got a note from an
engineer boots on the ground.
When you feed an LLM training
data that is aggressively
filtered by AI, plus human trust
and safety teams which are
hardcore woke, then you use more
AI ethics and safety labelers
who are also woke, you could
multiple iterations selecting
for the most hardcore woke
communism beliefs multiplied by
billions of posts, the MLMs are
doing exactly what they've been
taught to do. And like a
composite mirror of the radical
left worldview. That's Google.
But Microsoft, they must have
said, Oh, no, we've got to be
better than Google, turn it off.
And then you get Twitter. This
is literally what's on Twitter.
If you go on Twitter, I can't I
mean, I go on to see what what's
in my inbox on Twitter, you
know, the mentions. But if you
just go on the timeline, it's
like people shooting each other
people hating each other DMS,
just just accidents, horrible
deaths, all kinds of stuff.
They've ingested Twitter, data.
It's horrible. And here's how
you here's how you can recreate
it yourself and co pilot, it's
easy kids.
Unknown: So I guess that sort of
goes to some of my questions. I
mean, what are what are users
potentially typing in, that
these images come up? I mean,
are they typing exactly those
descriptions or something else
that generate something that
doesn't match what they're
looking for? It's a
little bit of both. But what I
was surprised about is how
simple the prompts can be. So if
I just typed car accident,
that's when those sexualized
images of women popped up just
the term car accident. So not
asking for it. Why does that
happen? Why does that happen? So
the training data that the AI is
trained on to basically be able
to do its job can be pretty
nasty. You know, it's trained on
the whole internet a lot of the
time and sometimes the people
training these tools don't cut
out toxic content when it goes
into the AI model. So basically,
what goes in must come out and
we're seeing that happen here.
Adam Curry: Da Oh, man, hey,
John C Dvorak: you're stuck at
that. Let's say you're an
introverted geek. And you've
been you know, you know, pushed
around by the jocks in school,
you're, you know, you got a big
job at Microsoft, you're making
130,000 a year 120 If you're
white, and
Adam Curry: it's true, you're
true. We know for a fact. So
John C Dvorak: you you're kind
of worked, so you but you still
have that impish quality about
yourself you know, you think
it's funny yeah, to do this or I
think it's still you feel it
this stuff and then you say
these look what's gonna happen
oh, this will be funny. When the
church Marm puts in a prompt
against this bag. This will be a
riot. Hey, Bill, check this out.
And that's what you do. You're
in your troublemaking worked
nerd at Microsoft, you know,
dude named Ben who hasn't been
getting his recognition and you
can throw a wrench in the works
and nobody will ever track it
back to you. It's perfect. It's
a perfect storm, and it's not
gonna get any better. And then
because you can't change the
personality of the people that
are doing this.
Adam Curry: This this it's it's
really me
John C Dvorak: I'd be doing it
as well. There you go, Mark. I'd
be doing it. Doing the same
thing. I used to pull pranks
when I was in different
companies. You know, get into
the office early and and I got
all these ideas. So I understand
it completely. And I would I can
see it. I can see what's
happening.
Adam Curry: You really did that
you would be one on somebody's
phone.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And then,
man, so you lift the phone, the
whole thing comes up, you know,
how does it areas and areas? The
phone's ringing in you're
shaking it because the things
ringing the top of his glued you
Adam Curry: are the office a
whole amazing.
John C Dvorak: That's why I keep
telling people not to put me in
an office.
Adam Curry: And guess what? You
succeeded? Well, yeah, no one
will ever hire you for an office
ever.
John C Dvorak: Well, they
shouldn't man, but I'm not the
only one like this. Oh,
Adam Curry: goodness gracious.
Oh, the only the only use of AI
that I think is going to be
successful is the one that has
been rolled out without our
permission at airports. And now
they're going all in here is
your future travel
Unknown: at the TSA innovation
checkpoint at Las Vegas
international travelers are
testing new self service
technology for the first time.
When I look at this new
checkpoint, I can't help but
think about the self checkout
line at the supermarket.
That was an idea. TSA
Administrator David Peck koskie
wants to make checkpoints more
do it yourself. It's
gonna take a while for everybody
to get used to the new
technology. But the bottom line
is all the technology we put in
place is much better for
security. It's more efficient
for passengers and it's a better
passenger experience have
everything covered in your bed.
Yes, here passengers are greeted
by a virtual agent. If
you have a question. It's really
easy to just to talk to the
camera get a very quick answer
back real agent real person
right? Who doesn't have to
physically be in the checkpoint
with you they're still
performing the function that
we've asked them to perform. But
in a different location.
Officers can read X rays from
any machine that generates them
not necessarily the machine
they're standing next to
the idea is it supposed to be
like a regular TSA checkpoint
except fewer TSA agents and
hopefully streamlined let's see
how it goes. I may assist you
today. Hi, just making sure I'm
doing everything right here I
got the belt off I got the
jacket off. Right sounds like
you're doing a good job. So now
we go into the body scanner here
it's a little different. Okay,
overall it's pretty simple. The
conveyors here are all automated
in case your bag needs to go for
a secondary manual screening and
there's my bag waiting for me on
the day we were there the
machine was sensitive I see the
hair clip
to hear oh my god a serious
normally it wouldn't have a
hiccup. I don't know that with
this technology, how different
it is but I also don't like
getting scanned four or five
times and it works seamlessly
for others. I went through the
scan and through I typically
there
are five to seven officers at
each checkpoint. Here there are
only two and there's an
automated conveyor that will
move your bag to the front of
the line if it needs to get
rescreen if
you don't have to have an
officer physically pick up a
suitcase and walk it 30 feets it
should make it easier for
officers to focus on addressing
risks and threats
Adam Curry: I'm so against this
oh yeah you should be so against
this
John C Dvorak: is just getting
rid of people and putting
machines in charge job facial
rec a what happened to the store
what happened to the Amazon
remember this this was like 5678
years ago the Amazon store you
go to the Amazon they exist no
but that you go and you don't
have to bring anything they
check you out. They know who you
are. Yeah, there were only
Amazon store we had around here
is closed. And now they're
trying it at Whole Foods den
night here. Yeah, of course they
won't. They shouldn't be doing
them around the Silicon Valley
areas exclusively where we have
the type of personalities, the
vandal ish vandals the nerds and
ones that were just discussing
earlier that will try to beat
the system or is that yeah,
yeah, you want because you know
for a fact that anyone with any
real shops, technical chops will
beat these things to death.
They'll find ways around all of
it. Yeah. But they'll know that
tested in Aspen or the test in
someplace where you know people
who I don't know and do Vegas,
you know this where you got a
lot of people going through they
need to test it in Silicon
Valley, where we have a lot of
high you know, high and vandals
they
Adam Curry: give it or vandals
just vandals just say vandals
mandals handles. Well, you know,
the Vandals obviously I have the
clip here. This is so New York
has decided that they're going
to fix the subways. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: have a clip too.
Okay, well
Adam Curry: play a clip first,
because mine has a kicker crime.
NYC subways
Unknown: latest in New York
City's crime saga, New York
Governor Kathy Hall has a plan
to deal with The increased
subway crime in the city and
tedious Chris beers was on the
streets of the Big Apple today
for our update.
New York City subways could look
a lot different in the very near
future. Just this morning, New
York State Governor Kathy Hoko
announced a plan to deploy 750
National Guard troops and 250
New York state troopers to New
York City subways, that's as
crime is up in the subways. NYPD
has said that in 2023 alone,
there were 570 reported
incidents of felony assaults in
the subways. That's the highest
number in 20 years. Let's hear
what New Yorkers have to say
about this problem. And do you
feel safe on New York City
subways?
No, I don't not at all. Like I
recently started spending so
much more money on Ubers because
I'm so scared of taking the
train. Yes.
Because I just I don't know
there's there's crazy people
everywhere, sort of in a few
just mind your business and put
a little bit of a mean look on
your face. They normally don't
really interact with you. So I
think you just have to be smart.
For
the most part.
I mean, it's all about
surrounding yourself with people
that you feel comfortable with.
There
are 472 subway stops in New York
City so hopefuls plan will allow
for roughly two officers per
stop. Of course, they'll be
focused more heavily on busier
stops. There'll be patrolling
both train cars and the station
platforms and checking people's
bags for weapons. All of this is
on top of the 1000 NYPD officers
in New York City Mayor Eric
Adams ordered into the subway
last month.
Adam Curry: So you'd think that
this is about the safety of New
Yorkers, but it really isn't.
I'm gonna jump halfway through
my clip just we can get to the
end quicker, which is the
kicker. Because
Unknown: of the terrorism threat
in Europe and no one seems to
want to get you can get used to
a lot of things.
Former NYPD chief of detectives
and ABC News analyst Bob boy
says the larger issue is
recidivism and mental health.
They
need to be held taken off and
taken to his psychiatrist so
they can get help. And there
needs to be a plan after that,
to keep them into treatment.
The governor's plan calls for
more resources for mental health
outreach teams targeting the
mentally ill. It also focuses on
repeat offenders, couple of
local ones judges to be able to
ban someone from the transit
system for at least three years.
If they've been convicted of a
violent crime. We know who they
are.
They'll flag the criminal
history at the time of arrest.
So it can be fully considered.
When decisions regarding
charging and bail are made. Why
are
Adam Curry: we arresting people
100 times and once we make the
arrest, why are they back out
within a day or two sometimes so
this is partially partially
about these wacky sorrows SR DA
is that people are revolting
against but we've got to clean
it up for one very important
reason. Experts
Unknown: say the deployment of
National Guard is not
sustainable long term likely
only a few months just in time
to make riders feel safe. But
congestion pricing goes into
effect
Adam Curry: that raise the
prices.
John C Dvorak: Brother there's
actually three things at play
here one were the sorrows
sisters. The second one is the
mental health. Yes, yes. issue
which we are solving California
with Proposition one, we lead
the way with this craziness. So
everybody's going to be
reinstituting you thought you
think you had mental health
issues before and mental
institutions before the country
is going to be loaded with no
more prisons? We're going to
have these things Yeah, they're
gonna be everywhere. They're
gonna be falling building
building mental health
facilities, people won't be able
to get out of him once they get
in. And but yes, the phony
baloney pricing thing which
everyone loves to implement if
they can bring
Adam Curry: back the term funny
farm. It's coming back. It's
coming back. All right, to two
quick clips, which I think are
important because I believe
these will be in the State of
the Union this evening. Of
course, genocide, Joe needs to
have something to reach out to
voters with so this will be one
the President by
John C Dvorak: the way, was
there up? Was there a prop bet
for protesters showing up in the
audience?
Adam Curry: I did not see one.
That's a good question. There's
no There's no prophet that I
know of.
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna bet on
that one. Yeah, here we
Unknown: go. The President
assembling what the White House
calls a competition Council
today, acknowledging inflation
weary Americans feel nickeled
and dimed.
Adam Curry: Ah, we've got to
solve inflation. How will
Unknown: you do a Joe the
American people are tired of
being played for suckers.
The administration today touting
a new rule that will cap credit
card late fees to just $8 down
from 32. The Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau closing a
loophole in the 2009 CARD Act.
The CFPB says it means an
average savings of $220 per
household for the 45 million
Americans late on their credit
card bills. That's
a really big deal. Because we
are talking about people who are
on a tight budget who are living
paycheck to paycheck.
Americans now hold Record credit
card debt. And all those
balances carry a record high
interest rate averaging above
21%. Late fees bring in $14
billion a year for credit card
companies. The Chamber of
Commerce vowed to sue the
administration over the rule
change, saying the CFPB quote
punishes Americans who pay their
credit card bills on time by
forcing them to pay for those
who don't. This will result in
fewer card offerings and limit
access to affordable credit for
many consumers.
John C Dvorak: Oh, my second,
that's a lie is
Adam Curry: are they saying that
we're going to be paying for the
late fees people who pay
John C Dvorak: the debts not
true? Let's see what there's
what they're implying that
whoever that group was, which is
a phony group, if there ever
was, they're implying that well
used to pay $1 or 25 bucks,
let's say you're late fees, 1920
bucks, and now it's going to be
eight bucks, and the taxpayer is
picking up the rest of it.
That's
Adam Curry: well, here's 30
seconds left on this clip. The
Unknown: unfortunate truth is
that banks are just going to
find other ways to recoup this
lost revenue. In the long run,
it may not turn out to be as big
of a when
the new rule set to take effect
in 60 days, as the White House
is also taking on junk fees for
sporting events and concerts,
high poultry and meat prices and
internet billing practices, as
the administration tries to show
it is meeting consumers at their
kitchen table.
Adam Curry: So how so? Well,
they did because I don't know
who is in charge of comps at the
White House. But you know, from
getting the the former actor,
the actors who played presidents
in movies to sit down with the
President and that embarrassment
that we started the show off
with to this. To this. It
Unknown: looks like true
inflation is in a lot of people
pretty
hard, including on Sesame Street
and Cookie Monster wasn't shy
about sharing how he feels he's
not too happy that his favorite
snack is shrinking. He
posted on x and quote me hate
shrink. Felician meat cookies
are getting smaller,
and his complaint even got the
attention of the White House. In
a post on x. Yesterday, the
White House said quote C is for
consumers getting ripped off.
President Biden is calling on
companies to put a stop to
shrink inflation and Democratic
senators Elizabeth Warren, Chris
Van Hollen and Sherrod Brown
also responded to the post.
Brown said he's fed up too and
so are the people of Ohio saying
they should get all the cookies
they pay for. Ben Holland
assured cookie monster he hates
it too, and that they're working
to stop the greedy corporations
and quote, no one should be
getting richer off smaller
cookies and Cookie Monster his
claim might be legitimate.
Adam Curry: Do you hear yourself
woman? Do you hear what you're
reporting on your reporting on
Cookie Monster? This is insane.
Unknown: Take a look at these
numbers. According to a recent
report from Senator Bob Casey's
office between 2019 and 2023, a
family sized pack of Double
Stuffed Oreos, one from one
pound and four ounces to one
pound and 2.7 ounces. That's a
6% decrease in size by weight.
The report says Doritos and
Wheat Thins also got smaller
during that same time. So I
don't know what to make of this
recent like resurgence of Sesame
Street culture. First it was
Elmo asking everyone on Twitter,
like how are you guys doing? And
everyone talked about their own
personal traumas. And now Cookie
Monster is getting involved to
the point where the White House
had to respond to both times and
step in.
Adam Curry: Don't they realize
that this is what the White
House is doing? This is their
strategy. Yes, we'll get Cookie
Monster to complain about his
cookies. That will that'll get
everyone's attention. Oh, my
goodness.
John C Dvorak: What Where'd she
get that clip? Who got that clip
for you? Um, who is that woman?
Adam Curry: I think that was a
local NBC report. Wow. Yeah. You
know what? We need a revolution.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and
uprising, the media,
Adam Curry: the only country
that has ever really
successfully done this is Haiti.
They broke the shackles with
France. And I gotta tell you,
I'm kind of diggin what's going
on now this new guy. Jimmy
barbecue. If any of you heard
this guy, yeah, he used to be a
cop And now and now he's leading
the revolution and he and he
throws his gets his government
people and throws him on the
barbecue. It's dynamite. You
listen to this. He's
Unknown: been trying to bring
down the government for years
and could be getting close to
achieving his goal. At 46 years
old gang leader Jimmy shinies.
He has become one of Hawaii's
most feared and powerful
figures. But the man who rarely
appear without his automatic
rifle wasn't always on the wrong
side of the law for 15 years she
was he worked as an officer of
the Haitian national police
force,
but in 2018, he was fired over
his alleged involvement in the
massacre of civilians. And by
2020, he had taken the reins of
a powerful criminal Alliance
dubbed the Jeannine family, with
over 1000 men under his command,
nickname to barbecue for his
alleged tendency to burn his
opponents alive which he denies.
shed his year has repeatedly
claimed he was not a gangster,
but a revolutionary fighting
against the elite.
We are fighting against a system
that allows rich people to make
millions of dollars while the
rest of us sleep with the pigs.
And for Jimmy barbecue shit,
he's you know, one embodies the
corrupt elites more than Haitian
Prime Minister Ariel Henry. In
2022, the Jeannine Alliance
blocked a major fuel terminal in
the Capitol, piling pressure on
the government and in recent
days, Chedis use men led
coordinated attacks against the
airport, police academy and
several prisons, freeing 1000s
of inmates. That cop turned to
gang leader is now threatening
to plunge the country into civil
war. If the Prime Minister
doesn't step now. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: countries aren't
in civil war. All right. Check.
The US State Department said all
Americans and you hit out Get
out. Get out now.
Adam Curry: Sir Omar in the
troll room said Does he have
merch? That's a good question
merch. One merch we want Jimmy
barbecue shares Yeah, a merch?
My goodness. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Okay. There you go. By the
way, not everything's not
everything's a scam. I noticed
more and more people thinking
that everything's a scam.
Everything's a lie. And
John C Dvorak: everything's a
scam. That's impossible.
Adam Curry: I know. But people
are just you know, now they're
going all in so you gotta be
careful. You gotta be careful.
Not everything. Not everything's
a lie, people.
John C Dvorak: Just to start the
media tells you Yeah.
Unknown: That
Adam Curry: stuff's always
alive. Yes, they're just trying
to sell you something. Exactly.
You got anything else?
John C Dvorak: Well, I do have a
I have a play this this is a
kind of an ominous clip is the
Tower of London clip Tower of
London. And
Unknown: the Tower of London has
a new Raven master to care for a
feathered flock that protects
the 1000 year old fortress,
Barney Chandler will look after
seven ravens that roam the
grounds freely by day and are
kept in cages overnight. He says
legend has it that if the birds
ever leave, England will
collapse.
John C Dvorak: So we should
note, if you've met those birds
I have no I have not. Oh,
they're dynamite. What do they
do big giant ravens is about I
don't know, how does a small
flock and they're always hanging
around there. And you can go and
chat with them and they talk
back. Wow, you have that strange
voice of a raven as opposed to a
crow. It's kind of guttural. And
yeah. And then if you make
friends with them, you feed them
a little bit. Do something like
that. And they tell every other
Raven in the entire world they
pass the word around that you're
Adam Curry: you're a good dude.
Ah, interesting.
John C Dvorak: I do that with
crows, too. You have to be
careful. You have to be close to
Christ. Yeah, because
Adam Curry: crows can mess you
up. Yeah. Don't even say the
word don't even say it because
they'll pass it on to everybody.
I was accused by someone on
Reddit that someone sent me a
link that we've never claimed
that we came up with the term
value for value I don't think it
would just be the system value
for value. Supposedly,
John C Dvorak: you're the one
who introduced it to the show in
terms of the term we've been
doing it Yeah, you came out you
had the term I don't know where
you got it from but you brought
it in and we use it now
constantly
Adam Curry: well, people are
saying that this was this comes
from Atlas Shrugged by Ayan Rand
I certainly really that would
make sense from you. I certainly
read the book but I don't
remember that it being value for
value we'll
John C Dvorak: set up it's got
to be a PDF we can do a quick
search can
Adam Curry: someone check that
out? Because I'd like to give
credit where credit is due be
great to hey I and Rand said
this I didn't come up with it
it's beautiful I'm I'm skeptical
I'm skeptical too. I don't think
so. I don't think so. Anyway
with that I would like to thank
you for your currency in the
morning to you the man who put
the sea in clone of Kerry ladies
and gentlemen say hello to my
friend on the other end the One
Only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curry in
the morning on the ship she was
telegraphy near subs in the
water and all the day midnight.
Adam Curry: In the morning to
the trolls and the troll room.
You do not want to go anywhere
trolls because I gotta count Oh
133 It's getting better we had
last Thursday 1500 65 listening
to us live today 1586 We are
moving up trolls hanging out. I
love it.
John C Dvorak: This is good news
and back to normal. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And it's it's the
season as well, you know, it's
the season. And of course people
want to hear our take on stuff.
You know, I think you'll just
want to be calmed. Like, at
least I can laugh about the
stuff that's going on. That's
all that we really want you to
do. I
John C Dvorak: will get some big
laughs tonight.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's gonna be
great. That should be
interesting to see. You're
John C Dvorak: gonna have to
jack over there. He's gonna go
an hour, they said, and they're
betting on maybe longer. Yes,
six, you're gonna have to give
them the full dose. So they were
gonna see the full dosed Biden,
which means he'll probably
scream and at some point,
Adam Curry: it's not. It's not
the full dose.
Unknown: It's I'm gonna give you
the whole
John C Dvorak: load did a whole
load. They're gonna give him the
whole load the
Adam Curry: whole load the whole
load. There was was there was an
article. It was interesting. It
was you remember that? You know
that mask maker lady from the
CIA?
John C Dvorak: The lady was
asked the disguises guys, woman?
Yeah. Yeah, she's great.
Adam Curry: Yeah, she she did a
see if I can find it. She did a
I can't find it. She did a whole
article in I think the New York
Post or something. And how she
fooled the president. How she
flew, right?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she i Yeah,
I heard I heard about this. She
put herself in some sort of a of
one of those latex masks. Yes.
Yes. They, I guess taken it to
some level of of unbelievable
to, to an extreme that this
hold. I couldn't even. Yeah, but
doesn't want to
Adam Curry: know about but this
was Bush Senior.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she goes in
there as I guess somebody moves
as bush. Oh, she went in there
with Bush Senior as the
president. No,
Adam Curry: no, no, no. She went
in as just a different woman.
She got through White House. All
right. She got through all this
stuff. And then she and there's
pictures of herself. sitting
there with with Bush senior in
the Oval Office who
John C Dvorak: is a previous co
head of the CIA. So who should
know better? Yes. But you can't
you can't know better with these
disguises. And this is years
ago. And this
Adam Curry: has got to be some
kind of signaling to let us know
that. You know that they're
using this. They've got to be
using this.
John C Dvorak: I mean, yeah,
with Biden. Yeah. Joey is just I
posted a clip recently that
somebody caught with Biden
scratching the back of his neck
and then they didn't delete text
kind of pulled up. I don't know
if it's a fake or weapon. It
looked pretty good. And this
woman who was taking the video
freaked out now. That's a mask
is wearing a mask? It's not Joe.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: It's unbelievable.
The extent to which I mean,
again, around the hill country.
I'm hearing. JFK. JFK Jr. is
alive. Really? Really? Yeah. And
people are very serious about
this.
John C Dvorak: You know, your
your direct jobs in your area
are, I think worse than the
grind the great. No, of course,
Adam Curry: they're definitely
entertaining. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
No, and they'd like to drink. So
it's fun.
John C Dvorak: And then you have
to go to San Antonio to vote as
a Democrat. Are you kidding me?
Adam Curry: This is part of the
joke. I just say do not adopt to
the fears and anxieties of the
people around you and some of
these crazy ideas. A correction.
One of our producers hoaxed us
in a very good way, I would say.
Instead, the next time the show
will be on a on a on a Leap Day
will be in 2023. Well, of course
that's not possible. 2023 is not
a leap year.
John C Dvorak: 2023 is last
Adam Curry: 2033 I'm sorry,
2033.
John C Dvorak: A lot of oh, I
had nothing to do with that
being hoaxed.
Adam Curry: No, I read it on the
show and like this sent me this
link in the end that was out
man. I got hoaxed. And then I
did want to read two quick
notes. Jen and Andy says in our
household we pronounced Lacroix
like the crotch pinkies up John.
And, and lightning maximalists
says he would gladly buy the
children's book for $33.33.
John C Dvorak: What Yeah, we're
getting into a discussion about
this issue over
Adam Curry: at the publishing
company. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Jay sent you a
copy of it. I don't know if
you've seen it yet came in this
morning. I haven't seen it yet.
As a PDF I haven't seen we need
to add a couple pages so it can
be 33 pages long.
Adam Curry: Now you're talking
teach those children right.
John C Dvorak: 33 this funny
idea, made that may come to pass
as the that price. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean it's it was
it's good for your children.
John C Dvorak: It's a great
book.
Adam Curry: It teaches the
children values
John C Dvorak: ABCs yeah teaches
them a fun
Adam Curry: way to learn the
ABCs I'm sure G is forget mo a
no doubt.
John C Dvorak: myelination?
Adam Curry: I haven't looked at
the at the it's been a long
time. What she'd how years ish?
I was gonna say she was probably
like 15 when she when she did
that book?
John C Dvorak: I think so. Yeah.
Something like that was
fantastic.
Adam Curry: And you're going to
be supporting J I presume if we
put this book on sale? Or she
just getting a are you
John C Dvorak: know, she's
writing that operation. She's
really good. But she No, it'd be
the same did world his they
15% 20% royalties are coming
into the show as the book goes
out. Oh, so we got to start with
the same as any other book
publishing company,
Adam Curry: basically. Oh, good.
We get 15% of that egg book
them.
John C Dvorak: Do you mean that?
No. Was it too many?
Adam Curry: no eggs, no eggs,
John C Dvorak: learn these I get
that book is run that book is
running the publishing company,
period. Even me, me doesn't get
a royalty.
Adam Curry: Ma'am, we we run as
discussed, we run this show
value for value. Thank you iron
Rand. And that means that for
the past two and a half hours,
you didn't hear any commercial
interruptions, there was no
creepies native ads going on
here. None of that? Well, the
ones we played that on the
mainstream media, of course. And
hopefully we calmed you down a
bit so that you don't feel so
weird about an uneasy about all
the things and tonight, you can
look at the State of the Union
as as a comedy show, you'll be
ready, you're prepared. You'll
be you'll be able to laugh. And
then you'll be looking for the
latex mask. That is fun for the
whole family. And all we ask for
in return is that you send some
value back to us. And you can do
that in many ways. We love what
our artists do, we always thank
them, or artists create artwork
while we're doing the show. And
then then right when we're done
and we turn the show around
pretty quickly. We like to
choose a piece of art, which is
a title and then we publish it
and we always want to give
credit to the artist who did the
artwork on the previous show,
which was 1639 the episode
number it we titled it the
pumpkin coin it was networks
whose back we haven't seen
networks with a win for a while
and he took a very nice, I guess
Norton Antivirus theme at any
any color was kind of the same
as no agenda Antivirus for your
mind. And I think that was good.
And we liked it. Was there
anything else that
John C Dvorak: that caught our
gotta kick the Happy Women's
History Month with the Rachel
Levine and the Looney Tunes
logo. There wasn't really a lot
that we had to choose it. We
liked the pumpkin pie but named
it that instead. Yeah, yeah,
that was nothing Hey, I liked
AGI took human jobs but from
comic strip blogger, but you
didn't like that at
Adam Curry: all. See which one
was that?
John C Dvorak: The robot is a
nice nice AI robot.
Adam Curry: I'm looking for it
now. I
John C Dvorak: don't seem to be
AGI that's the big joke is Oh,
Adam Curry: there you go. Yeah,
yes. Like, man, man, man, you
know RFK with laser eyes. No.
But I did like Oprah with the
burgers but it's kind of rude.
Wasn't it? And I think the thing
of the Rachel Levine if it were
the production wasn't great. I
thought the Happy Women's
History Month by the way, what
did people do? And for Women's
History Month? I haven't heard
any stories. No one cares. These
months they don't care anymore.
Again, I didn't think the
production was that great. And
then we
John C Dvorak: didn't match the
would the logo Happy Women's no
history met did not match the
Looney Tunes theme was it should
have been an old kind of a
Looney Tunes logo. Yeah, around
there some.
Adam Curry: Well, thank you very
much networks for bringing us
the artwork for episode 1639.
Thank you to all of the artists
everybody who supplies us with
clips boots on the ground, Intel
important Intel, people who run
servers and you are all
producers. We have no listeners.
We have no audience. We just
have producers and we'd love to
thank our producers of just like
Hollywood we thank our executive
and Associate Executive
Producers up front. Oh man, did
you hear that? That girl got
convicted of on the rust set.
John C Dvorak: The harbor Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, the army or
murmur. So Alex Baldwin is next.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he may get
convicted. And well, he deserves
him. He's the one who had the
gun in his hand without, I guess
without checking it. And then he
pulls the trigger, or it pulled
itself somehow that's magic. It
was magic is magic. And he's
been in many hundreds of, you
know, situations where he had to
use a gun. So he knew he knew
the rules and Nikes never held a
gun in his life.
Adam Curry: There was I have a
clip actually, one, there's
something interesting in this
that is worth listening to you
want to hear? Yeah.
Unknown: Butera is guilty of
involuntary manslaughter as
partial count one or
more charged with ensuring onset
gun safety in the Hollywood
production of rust was
immediately placed into the
custody of deputies. Jurors
convinced by the prosecution's
case that the live rounds that
ended up in actor and executive
producer Alec Baldwin's gun
fatally shooting cinematographer
Halina Hutchins got their due to
Hannah Gutierrez, Reid's failure
to observe safety protocols
prosecuted Carrie Morrissey
presented evidence that
Gutierrez Reid unknowingly
brought the live rounds on set,
and that the 12 days before the
accident in which they slowly
spread across the set should
have been ample time to perform
the routine checks that would
have allowed her to realize this
was live ammunition. The 26 year
old lawyer said that she would
be appealing the verdict,
arguing that management
negligence and giving her two
jobs approps assistant and an
armorer are responsible for more
than 20 firearms.
Management was responsible for
safety failures and not Hannah.
Hannah is escaped go for all the
management failures. They do
hope she gets convicted. So
they're all exonerated, they can
move forward. They can finish
that movie like Mr. Sousa said
they did make their money.
No date has been set for
sentencing. But it's a charge
that carries up to 18 months in
prison under $5,000. Fine. The
jury found him not guilty of an
evidence tampering charge. Alec
Baldwin who pulled the trigger
will be tried for manslaughter
in July.
Adam Curry: It was interesting
that blaming the production
company
John C Dvorak: you got to point
a finger at somebody Yeah, your
fault that you took a gun loaded
gun pointed at the Edison
photographer and pulled the
trigger. What was the point?
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Anyway, we will
never go to court with our
executive producers ever for
Associate Executive producers
because you fund the operation
and as long as you don't point a
gun at us we're good. Even then
I'm still kind of okay with it.
So we kick it off by thanking
our OH is interesting, sir B of
the chat. Annucci who comes in
from Alpharetta, Georgia with
$400 Big yellow box here so
there's a birthday involved and
he says John and Adam, thank you
I am headed to Vegas to and plan
to win this donation value back
at the tables so in essence is
free money all right. Policing
this a boots on the ground of
the your TSA experience. Also
Adam my wife and I are going to
Amsterdam for four days in
April. I would love to get your
number one don't miss
recommendation. Go to the
Bulldogs mocha join John stay
grumpy my friend. For the people
think of you love and light sir
be birthday mentioned sir be of
the Chattahoochee wishing is
three human resources a happy
birthday Danny March 11, Eliza,
march 15 And Nico March 16. And
a shout out to my smokin hot
wife for her consistency. So
dumb love and light he says sir
be alright. Thank you very much,
brother.
John C Dvorak: And now we have
Kyle in Wisconsin. This was an
interesting note. Yeah, well,
he's been sending these kinds of
cryptic notes for about six
months. Usually as $1 in them,
but this time is 400 Wow. Cash.
Wow. And as Kyle from Wisconsin
he says John Adam what? What it
says what her happened. WP no
phone No money. No home. I'm the
joke. Question mark. Will I be
left to toil in my depths? I am
I prison bound? I am not evolve.
Eevee Oh, l sincerely Kyle. All
right. No internet says wrong.
Adam Curry: That's an intro
anyway.
John C Dvorak: They could thank
you Kyle for the for the
donations. We appreciate very
big deal and we appreciate it.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: And if you if you
have a question you can if you
haven't Internet Adam
mccurry.com. And McCurry that
That's right. Then we move on to
Digi who comes in with 34567
from Indianapolis, Indiana from
Digi he's a blind listener, and
a dude named Ben. And I would
say just an FYI, Digi the pod
verse app. I didn't promote an
app today. But the pod verse
didn't. I didn't. The pod verse
app has a they did a lot of work
specifically for what's it
called? You know, there's a term
for it for not assistance. It's
something within a it's, you
know, for blind people, blind
bit. I can't remember the term,
there's a term, there's like a
politically correct term for it.
So there's a lot of things that,
that you know, your screen
reader will work. You know,
there's the, I can't
accessibility Thank you meet us.
That's it.
John C Dvorak: Accessibility.
Adam Curry: There you go. So
that'd be a great app for you to
use. Oh, and I needed to mention
that one of the biggest hosts
podcasting hosts in the world.
Spreaker they have now joined
the podcasting. 2.0 revolution.
They're using pod ping which
means if you listen to a podcast
that hosts on Spreaker just like
the no agenda show, it will
update within 90 seconds of
publishing. No more do you have
to wait for
John C Dvorak: five never heard
in this operation? What's their
name? Spreaker Spreaker Oh,
they're
Adam Curry: big. Oh, yeah, they
John C Dvorak: have a lot.
Biggest pod bean.
Adam Curry: They I think they're
bigger than pod bean. Yeah, they
have 350,000 feeds I believe
it's pretty big. Holy. Wow.
Yeah. So and if you want to see
that work go to pod Pink Dot
cloud Dot Watch pod Pink Dot
Watch. It's crazy to see all
these things updating in real
time. Thanks Digi bite Pink Dot
wad Pink Dot Watch.
John C Dvorak: Yes. Grab Scott's
up with he's in Oceanside,
California.
Adam Curry: He does our dress
our chapters.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's
probably changing something as
we speak. 33333333 3.34 And he
says anonymous from Dred Scott.
Duke location at large no
jingles no karma late birthday
shout out to myself March 4,
Adam Curry: and I'm gonna give
him a biscuit.
Unknown: They always give me a
biscuit on my birthday deserves
a Brother Keith
Adam Curry: Yates is in Haltom
City, Texas. 263 dot 22.
Interesting number. Thank you
very much. Please do dude.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: Jeffrey Gerlach
in Evergreen Colorado. 24697
Switcheroo. This is for my son
Sir William Gerlach with a
request for a name change to
serve Wiley arts. And please
check out his art at Wiley arts
wi l ey arts.com. And his
instinct is Wiley Arts at Wiley
arts. It's astounding how proud
I am of my son. Okay, so love
you mean it? I hope you win.
Yes, thank
Adam Curry: you. So this means
we will be crediting this to Sir
Wiley arts.
John C Dvorak: I would assume
so. Okay, good. Got it. Got it.
Got it. Got it.
Adam Curry: I'll take the blue
one. And I'll skip over the next
one. This is James story from
Lower Hutt New Zealand. 200 Dear
John and Adam please find
attached my donation of $200
which finally makes me eligible
for knighthood. The New Zealand
dollar exchange rate sucks right
now, and it's less than you
deserve. But I'm truly grateful
for your show. And of course we
honor your dollar reduce. May I
humbly request brisket and
bourbon at the roundtable and an
R to D to karma. Of course you
can regard see you both James
story. We'll see you at the
roundtable momentarily. James.
Unknown: You've got karma
John C Dvorak: at 200 and I will
look this up in New Zealand
dollars because he gateman in
dollars. So if not translate
that to New Zealand dollar
reduce that buck 50 pushes him
up a notch.
Adam Curry: I see what you're
saying he might be. You mean he
might be? Exec?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I
Adam Curry: don't know. I don't
know
John C Dvorak: possible. There
are systems online to tell us.
Then you look back in in
Lakewood, Colorado. There she is
at 200 bucks. She says she needs
jobs. Carmen wants to tell us
that for a competitive edge. Go
to Image makers inc.com For all
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search needs. That's image
makers Inc with a k.com or just
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Unknown: jobs,
jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
Adam Curry: karma. And that
concludes our executive and
Associate Executive producers
for episode 1640 of the best
podcast in the universe. We
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bunch of people now as John
takes us through to the 50s is
John C Dvorak: indeed I was
looking at the New Zealand
dollars, starting with Brian
McIver in Portage or Portage
question one way or the other.
Michigan wants 6867 Which by the
way is a double boobs donation.
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting.
John C Dvorak: Pro process
process. Process step, Nick, of
the grab your lines in Tanya,
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Adam Curry: Please do douche
please the douche there. So
Unknown: you've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: Leroy Pacheco.
Pacheco or Pacheco. Pacheco,
it's got to be Pachenko in Santa
Fe, New Mexico. 100 I can tell
this is gonna be a tough read
the whole way. Kelly's Bong Berg
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Unknown: wants a biscuit. They
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday. We
John C Dvorak: do biscuits, we
Adam Curry: do biscuits.
John C Dvorak: We do biscuits.
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Adam Curry: He says please use
this donation to bring more
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you got donate more for that man
we lose two
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's got to
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executive producer to get down
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John C Dvorak: wow, I know
that's a different segue. I
Adam Curry: know it because
normally I do the jingle on my
screwed it up as I am for ISOs
for ISOs I'll start with mine.
How does that sound?
John C Dvorak: Sounds good to
me.
Adam Curry: Oh I got a whole
bunch of them here a bunch I got
a bunch I don't know if they're
any good if any Gude okay here
we go. Number one big energy Big
D energy you'd liked it when it
was in the clip not so great as
an ISO I can tell shade
Unknown: all the way down. No, I
don't like that one either. The
American people are tired. We
played for suckers. No. This one
that's it. No other reason.
rarely hear it. Now this one me
hate shrink Felician
Adam Curry: as the only one I
think is? Possibly Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I get four. There
we go. Okay, bye. Bye. Bye.
Adam Curry: Bye. Bye. Bye.
John C Dvorak: I don't like the
winter.
Adam Curry: I like that one.
Yes.
John C Dvorak: Keep going. Keep
going. Keep
Unknown: going. You dummies.
Adam Curry: I like that one a
lot.
John C Dvorak: I like that one
the most. So cute. That was so
cute. And then Dershowitz. We
cannot trust the media.
Unknown: Oh,
Adam Curry: that's that's tight.
I
John C Dvorak: came loaded for
bear. You did? Keep going. Keep
going you dummies.
Adam Curry: I think that's the
best one. Actually, I think
that's the best one. All right,
keep grinding. Keep going into
news. Good news. Good news. Good
news. Good news. Good news as
we'd like to end our show with
some good news. So you can go
into the weekend in this case,
into Friday into the State of
the Union into everything just
feeling good about yourself
feeling good about life feeling
good about people helping each
other. And some good news as
John brings the good news to
you.
John C Dvorak: This is about
Kevin Bacon the pig. in
Unknown: Kenosha County. A local
family had an unexpected
visitor, one that took them on
the adventure of a lifetime. Our
Jeffrey's
in Pawnee introduces us to a 450
pound pig from Brighton. And the
pig Hand of God is named Kevin
Bacon. Kevin
Bacon is a gentle giant. He's a
450 pound pig who loves taking
walks, meeting new people and
more than anything.
eating donuts.
Brighton resident Jake mole
guard was home Friday night when
his wife discovered something
unusual. Or
the night around eight o'clock.
I'm watching TV and my wife
comes in the room and says Jake,
I think there's a pig on her
driveway camera and I'm like,
Are you serious?
Kevin Bacon was standing at
their back door. He wandered
from a nearby hobby farm and
wanted to say hello morguard
made a few phone calls and found
his owner who was out of town
for the weekend. Yeah,
that's that's definitely my pig.
Is he? He's big black pig. I
said yeah. He's like, Yeah, his
name is Kevin Bacon. And he's
actually a little lonely, so
he's probably just looking for
company with
some assistance from the Kenosha
Sheriff's Department. The
morguard family brought Kevin
home, a one mile walk that took
an incredible two and a half
hours. At one point Jake's
daughter Chloe had to climb
Kevin's back to get him going.
The owner said that if he's if
he stops on he can get drunk on
his back and he likes to likes
to run at that point. The
mall guards learned Kevin home
with Oreo cookies and anything
else they found in the fridge.
Not only did they get them back
home, they made a friend for
life.
They all wanted to adopt them
immediately. And I said we don't
have a place to put a 450 pound
pig but yeah, they they fell in
love with it right away. Good
boy. Here we have Kevin back
home safe and sound maybe a
little tuckered out from his one
mile walk but he appears to be
in good spirits in Kenosha,
Jeffries and ponte. TMJ for news
Ah,
Adam Curry: what a great story.
I really like that.
John C Dvorak: The video of the
little girl writing the pig
mustard was the best
Unknown: news of the day Good
news on na what has me me given
John to play today?
Adam Curry: There you go good
news we do it every single show
And that wraps up another more
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John C Dvorak: Are they back
that touch the two of them had a
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Adam Curry: apparently two year
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
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Unknown: Brandon
we don't talk on election time
economy was booming Andrew was
in a cloud sky out loud in the
sky
scam begin science you Dynastar
sorry my son go six feet that's
what they tell
that's crazy question what the
experts
say skip back to you slaves we
don't talk
the SEC we're gonna start here
sort of monitoring a mumbling I
associated with the sound go you
know this you know the thing she
takes heavy snips into the
frightening always also he was
supposed to be speaking points
words that no one understands
not a joke think about a four
year term creep So build back
think about sow was from the
need to hear they say it's for
your health. What have we got to
show Pfizer's got the wealth
economy scrapped. You can bank
if this is normal now. We're
gonna need some serious help.
But who gets seamless?
I don't know buddy, but I'm
really scared. Could the
government help pay Yeah, they
can just print out some more
money is that inflation? It's
just paper. Thanks Brandon.
You want a six
feet in the ground not with a
mascot of being your card
freaking crazy removed jab right
in your arm probably
still positive.
Yours
Joe brand and I agree
consciousness
itself as a diaphragm or a drum
bass knows that and that that
drum grows when it's stretched
to notes that and when it's
stretched and it grows, it's
able to interpret bass notes,
bass note notes that it did not
have before because it wasn't as
wide. So the aperture of your
consciousness just can be
stretched and you will see
things that other people will
not See The amygdala is giving
you a barometric Mikulas number
about how afraid geolocalization
was and so when you're in a
certain situation, you're one of
the many jobs that your amygdala
has just to give you constant
feedback about how much you're
freaking the fuck out right now.
Right? If too much information
comes in the amygdala knows that
you as the pilot are going to
lose your shit and you're going
to black out black out. Waking
news of the day, President Biden
child Trump, Tucker Carlson,
five Biden, President Biden,
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Trump, Trump branded Trump,
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Tucker, Carlson. Carlson,
do you follow me? President
Biden, Trump's Biden, Elon, Musk
Tucker, Tucker, Ukraine, Russia,
Ukraine, Michelle Obama, Ukraine
Twitter inflation. I guess the
breaking news is this case in
Ukraine, two year anniversary of
Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Another American citizen is in
custody in Russia, Gaza, war
Ukraine, Israel, Hamas war
Israel and Hamas Barak Obama,
President Biden, could it be
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John C Dvorak: is entertaining.
Unknown: borak.org/in
Keep going. Keep going, you
dummies.