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Adam Curry: Hey, ring finger.
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February 8 2024. This is your
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everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: Dan from Northern
Silicon Valley where we don't
want to call them migrants
anymore. I'm John Cena Morag
Adam Curry: buzzkill you know
this their asylum seekers that's
the that's the official name
John C Dvorak: actually the
official name oh,
Adam Curry: but maybe in
California? No,
John C Dvorak: no it is Denver.
Adam Curry: Denver wherever I
was gonna say California light
please.
John C Dvorak: Denver California
heavy Yeah,
Adam Curry: sure. Yeah.
California heavy everybody
shifts California heavy we're
coming in light
John C Dvorak: Yes. Apparently
the term migrant is not good. So
we're going to change it to even
though it should be illegal
immigrant or illegal alien if
you haven't heard
Adam Curry: illegal alien was
what it was first that was that
was
John C Dvorak: that was what it
was first stuff. Yeah,
Adam Curry: back in the day.
John C Dvorak: They're gonna
change it to new immigrant.
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, it's it's
the newcomers. Why don't we just
call them that the newcomers?
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Creepy science
fiction movie. It wasn't
Adam Curry: that V.
John C Dvorak: Maybe visitors
the visitors knew maybe it was
V. newcomers. Newcomers and the
visitors
Adam Curry: make room make room
for the newcomers make room but
to newcomers
John C Dvorak: hear you out?
Well? Isn't this what they claim
that the is Israelis did to the
Palestinians take the newcomers
and then push the other ones
out? Is that what they'd been
doing here with these guys? I
don't see the difference if
they're going to use that
analogy.
Adam Curry: Well, if that's
where you want to start today,
then I think we should go
straight to
John C Dvorak: never said that.
Adam Curry: I think we should go
Good.
John C Dvorak: Good segue though
I really appreciate the
professionalism.
Adam Curry: Well, let's let's go
straight to MSNBC, which is
Denver, Denver heavy. And Chris
Hayes showed talking to AOC with
our, our actress, or actress
come House representative for
New York. And she lays it out
very clear and simple. What this
is really about.
Unknown: And you tweeted this
because I've been maddened by
the discussion of immigrants,
which basically I feel like the
entire discussion is they're
coming to get your stuff. slices
of pizza in America and every
one of
John C Dvorak: them again be
your home. I just more advanced
warning. All right. Who used to
work whoever uses the word Matt
and I maddened by this, look at
the guy angered. I've heard
people say, angered. It irks me.
That's what I say. Just look at
credit. I'm mad, and that's
pretentious.
Adam Curry: Okay, I'll give that
one to you. But you know, he's
with AOC. So it kind of I'm mad.
And aren't you? I've
John C Dvorak: imagined by this,
aren't you, Daphne.
Unknown: And you tweeted this
because I've been maddened by
the discussion of events, which
basically, I feel like I think
Adam Curry: this is a very good
observation. He's going mad.
That's what it is. I'm mad. I'm
mad. He's not angry. He's going
mad. I'm going back
Unknown: tire discussion is
they're coming to take your
stuff. There's like only seven
slices of pizza in America. And
everyone that comes is going to
take one of those Hold on a
second.
Adam Curry: How many slices are
there in a pizza? Why
John C Dvorak: wouldn't he seven
has never
Adam Curry: seen a seven slice
piece. You
Unknown: can't do it? You know?
Adam Curry: It makes no sense.
It's going to be eight slices.
John C Dvorak: It could be two
slices. Yes. It could be could
be four slices. I mean, you
could but it's always gonna be
multiples of two.
Adam Curry: All right, now we
are meeting Okay, let's keep
going
Unknown: here. They're coming to
take your stuff. There's like
only seven slices of pizza in
America. And everyone that comes
is going to take one of those
slices and you're not going to
have any. And the Congressional
Budget Office basically said
today, look, we're readjusting
our projection GDP does.
Adam Curry: You've got me on a
roll here. Does the
Congressional Budget Office
literally say, look, is that is
John C Dvorak: that how did I
know? They start their reports?
He look gross,
Unknown: up by 7 trillion. And
also, we're reviewing the US
government money to reduce the
deficit by a trillion because of
immigration, higher net
emigration and
we're not talking about you Free
John C Dvorak: Money oh wait for
oh, you
Adam Curry: wait for wait for
the next clip you
Unknown: started this all about
the net positives immigrants
bring to this country.
Adam Curry: All right net
positives hit it AOC
Unknown: Absolutely it is
actually low lay completely
nonsensical that we do not talk
about the enormous blessing.
Economic blessing was that
immigrants and immigration
represents the United States of
America. And a lot of folks
sometimes think that this is
just a certain kind of immigrant
call, right like college
educated or tech technical visa
is all immigrants that we're
seeing this is the CBO estimate,
immigration writ large, writ
large, yielding enormous
economic benefits to the United
States.
Adam Curry: Oh, wait a minute.
I'm feeling slavery coming on.
Unknown: And let's bring this
out even finer. If you are a
caregiver, if you are a baby
boomer, if you are someone that
cares for
Adam Curry: you see, if you're a
baby boomer, this is for you
this information for someone
John C Dvorak: who's gonna need
a nurse or a nurse to take care
of me and rob me aging,
Unknown: we currently do not
have the economic or social
structural capacity to take care
of our seniors. And we will
increasingly not have that if we
quote unquote, lock up our
border and shut down shut down
immigration. In fact, the thing
that has distinguished US
economic performance from other
countries like Japan, or other,
you know, or other developed
economies, is the fact that our
pro immigration policies
actually allow us to continue in
our economic growth, whereas
similar countries with anti or
more kind of closed border
policies, experienced economic
stagnation when they submit
themselves to this xenophobic
kind of border panic narrative
that Fox News, frankly, seeks to
peddle and instill in so many
people.
John C Dvorak: All right now, by
the way, this she account for
the fact that these stagnant
countries like oh, let's say
Japan just bought us steel out
from under us. I guess that
doesn't matter. All
Adam Curry: right. So before I
get to my next clip, let's just
remind ourselves with the what
the former New York banker said,
Adam, we don't have to be
worried about China. They are
declining in population, as long
as we keep adding people we win.
Now
John C Dvorak: that I've said
it, I said again, I said before,
if China is in such a bad state,
because of the declining
population, how come about 40%
of the youth of China can't get
work? Well, the sitting there
rain, we're waiting for jobs.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Aren't you
saying the same thing?
John C Dvorak: No, no, the
argument is that because China's
declining population, that means
that means that the they're
going to be overworked to pay
for
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, it's about printing
money. The more people we have,
the more money we get to print
for him through all kinds of
great plans and ultimately going
to universal basic income. This
this is this is the plan. Now,
in the United States, HSBC just
came out with global research.
Pop actually this is for all
developed economies. They
predict the population of all
developed economies will be cut
in half by 2100. And it notes a
very sharp decline starting in
2021. What happens with less
babies made I'm not quite sure
we should have had we should be
having a baby boom right now.
After all the lock downs,
John C Dvorak: we're having
sudden deaths
Adam Curry: is exactly the
opposite. Now, to back up what
AOC says let's go to Chairman of
the Federal Reserve our central
bank money printer go burr guy
on 60 minutes. Now remember, he
doesn't set policy, but he's
really happy with it. What
Unknown: are the important
factors that caused the labor
market to stabilize? Why
Adam Curry: not this This comes
on the heels of an unbelievably
good jobs report? Like twice as
much as expected? Which I don't
know how that happened.
John C Dvorak: All I all I
fudged the numbers. Okay,
Adam Curry: so All right. So I
think it's government jobs. I
think it's maybe Saudi
government just some people
taking third jobs. But but but
listen to what Powell says it's
it's truly unbelievable. What
are the important factors
Unknown: that caused the labor
market to stabilize one was just
a return of workers with several
million people were just gone
from the labor force for
whatever reason, many of them
didn't want to go back to their
old jobs because of COVID or
because they just didn't want to
be there and moved on with their
lives so so
Adam Curry: like, I'm not gonna
work I'm just moving on with my
life here. I'm not gonna work in
moving moving on with my life
yet. This is so great want to
Unknown: be there and move on
with their lives. So, so there
was a desperate shortage of
workers. And what happened is we
expected people to come right
back into the workforce in 2022.
They mostly didn't. And then and
then we thought, well, maybe
that's not going to happen. And
then it happened in 2023, we had
a combination of rising labor
force participation in prime age
workers. And we also had with
that we had a resumption of
immigration. So there was really
no immigration net in or very
little, during the pandemic, but
Adam Curry: it still kind of
makes me wonder, like, you know,
if we had no net emigration
during the pandemic, maybe they
have to catch up. And maybe
that's what we're seeing, like,
open up as wide as possible
boys, we need to get them in.
Unknown: In 2023, we saw
immigration move back up to the
levels that would have been
normal before the pandemic. And
those two things together, made
a real difference in labor
supply. So it's really a supply
story. That's the main thing I
would point to while he was
immigration important, because
immigrants come in and they tend
to work at a rate that is at or
above that for, for non
immigrants. Now,
Adam Curry: let me try labor.
Let me let me translate what he
just said. They're better than
you. They tend to work. Of
course, in the jobs that AOC
wants them to be in. And they
work at about or a little bit
above, they do a little bit
better than you would wipe in
John's but immigration
Unknown: important because
immigrants come in and they tend
to work at a rate that is at or
above that for, for non
immigrants, or immigrants who
come to the country tend to be
in the workforce at a slightly
higher level than Americans do.
But that's largely because
John C Dvorak: of the age
second, why does they just say
it? They work cheaper.
Adam Curry: It's coming. It's
coming cool than
Unknown: Americans do. But
that's largely because of the
age difference, they tend to
skew younger. Why is immigration
so important to the economy?
First of all, immigration policy
is some is not the Feds job. We
don't say immigration policy. We
don't comment on it. I will say
over time, though dominate us
has benefited from immigration.
And frankly, just in the last
year, a big part of the story of
the labor market coming back
into better balance is
immigration. Returning to levels
that were more typical of the
pre pandemic era, the country
needed the workers. It did
Adam Curry: that we just needed
the workers. You're not good
enough. You're too old. You're
too expensive. And you're not
Yeah, they do just a little bit
better. That's the message there
it is.
John C Dvorak: Better equals
cheaper. Yeah. Oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: of course. So we had
man no sooner had a marked up
and
John C Dvorak: hold on a second.
I'm sticking with another thing.
So job I had these clips from
the last show. I want you to
play this clip. Because this is
just like irksome to listen to.
Let me see if I can find it.
Hold on one second. Is Biden's
look for Biden? Is not on that.
When a
Adam Curry: show comes to a
screeching halt?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I'm
sorry. But Biden did the thing
is is Biden's going on. Okay.
I'll just reiterate, reiterate
it. Biden is going on and on
about how graded he is labor
unions. The UAW approved him
because
Unknown: I haven't I haven't I
have your clip.
United Auto Workers President
Shawn fain last week. Yep,
delivered a fiery speech in
Washington to endorse Biden, he
told Face the Nation Sunday why
he chose Biden over Trump.
President
Adam Curry: Biden has always bet
on the American worker and stood
with the American worker. And he
proved that during this
presidency, the Chinese worker
and
John C Dvorak: the American
worker so let's bring more
immigrants in to get take jobs
away from WHO? The American
worker, how does this make sense
to the UAW guy should be ashamed
of himself, I was a twice member
of the United Auto Workers on
withdrawal. And I would it's
shameful how they went from a
very good union to guy like,
just a corrupt classic, old
fashioned union.
Adam Curry: Right. So all we're
seeing here, and it's really
interesting, because on the last
show, we talked about how the
Republicans are all on the
borders open. This is no good
you know, you got to the
Democrats suck Biden sucks
borders open border border
border border, not saying it's
not true. And the Democrats like
war, war war, Iran, we're gonna
get some war. Now. They're going
into each other's camp. And
we've got we we've got Biden
blaming Trump, that the whole
the whole media is of course
blaming Trump for this is all
Trump's fault. Why is it Trump's
fault? Because Trump doesn't
want the Republicans to fix
anything.
Unknown: All indications are
this bill won't even move
forward to the Senate floor. Why
isn't Donald Trump because
Donald Trump thinks is bad for
him politically, he'd rather
weaponize this issue than
actually solve it. Trump and
Maga Republicans said no.
Because they're afraid of Donald
Trump. fray to Donald Trump,
Republic step to the side, who
do they serve? Donald Trump, but
American people, every day
between now and November, the
American people are going to
know that the only reason the
border is not secure is Donald
Trump. And my Republican
friends, folks, we've got to
move past this toxic politics.
All right.
John C Dvorak: So before you
continue, it did go to the
Senate floor. I have all this.
Okay. But
Adam Curry: I wanted to step
back a second and say no sooner
had I marked up the 320 pages of
HR 815, which was the House
version of the of the Senate
Bill. Then they blew this.
John C Dvorak: That's not true.
Unknown: Okay.
John C Dvorak: These the Senate
Bill was separate the House bill
was separate. They were not a
house. It wasn't a version of
the of the Centreville. Okay,
it's not it was its own bill,
its
Adam Curry: own bill, which by
the way, was, you know how this
is so cool how they do this. So
they they put this bill in HR
15. I'll get to the Senate bill
in a second. And hr 15 is meant
to amend title 38, United States
Code to make certain
improvements relating to the
eligibility of veterans to
receive reimbursement for
emergency treatment furnish
through the veterans community
care program, and for other
purposes. So they literally
takes take something that was a
bill that was I guess, on the
floor, and they just take all of
that out. And then and then turn
it into the emergency National
Security supplemental
appropriations act of 2024. Oh,
my God, this thing was, was it
this was a military bill. I
mean, it's for submarine bases.
I mean, we're part of the the
border part was, we need $2
billion to give to countries. So
when we send people back, they
can repatriate them. Can you
imagine how insane that is? So
we're sending people back that
who came in illegally, but we're
gonna give all these countries
$2 billion to catch them. So
they don't run into trouble. I
mean, it's I mean, we're giving
it to Venezuela. And this whole,
but I marked it out for anyone
who wants to take a look at it.
It's useless now, of course, but
I kind of knew that was going to
happen. So here's the bipartisan
bill that died.
Unknown: The bipartisan bill to
strengthen the border and
provide aid for Ukraine and
Israel died in the Senate
Wednesday, Senate
Republicans have looked more and
more like their house
counterparts and transform
themselves into the chaos
caucus.
Senators on both sides of the
aisle spent more than four
months negotiating the details.
I knew from the beginning. It's
not going to be perfect. But we
also knew the status quo was
untenable. Despite
Republican leadership backing
the compromise many of the rank
and file were dead set against
it.
I think a Republican
leader should actually lead this
conference and should advance
the priorities of Republicans.
The final straw came when former
President Donald Trump slammed
the efforts.
It turns out, border security is
not actually a risk to our
national security. It's just a
talking point for the election.
Even if the bill had passed in
the Senate Republicans in the
lower chamber of Congress
declared it dead on arrival in
the house. Republicans are not
passing the bill to address the
border. But they're still
planning to impeach Homeland
Security Secretary Alejandro
Mayorkas for his handling of the
immigration issue. The yeas are
214 and the nays are 260. The
resolution is not a golfer, even
though they failed to impeach
him on the first vote Tuesday
night Mayorkas
needs to be held accountable
divine administration needs to
be held accountable. And we will
pass those articles of
impeachment
Republicans fell one vote short
Tuesday night. But they expect
to try again when Louisiana
Congressman Steve Scalise is
healthy enough to return to
work.
Adam Curry: Alright, so. So that
just this is all show stay away
from it. There's nothing to see
here. The fun stuff is in the
cities with the black mayors.
This is where it gets great.
Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson.
Mr. Mayor, when you're gonna go
to the border and check it out.
We got trouble here. Mr. Mayor,
we got people sleeping
everywhere in our in our city.
We got migrants everywhere and
you give him money. Mr. Mayor,
what are you going to do? When
are you going to go to the
border and check it out and get
something done?
Unknown: I have children who
attend schools, we have soccer
games, Yo, you all are asking me
as if I'm not a parent in the
city. I get it a mayor. I get
it. But you're asking me to give
you a date. And I have to court?
Do you understand that you have
not had a mayor like me, I get
that. I have a wife. I have
children, they have schedules.
And plus, we still have public
safety that we have to address.
We still have the house that we
have to address. I still have a
budget that I have to address.
And I'm doing all of that with a
black wife raising three black
children on the west side of
Chicago. I'm going to the border
as soon as possible. Okay,
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
I'm black. Give me a break. What
was that? I mean, I'm sorry that
this is just crazy pay off like
the beginning where he says, I
know you're not used to a mayor
with kids, Larry Lightfoot. But
then he rolls into Hey, I got
schedules. I'm raising, I'm
raising three children schedule.
I got a black ones to do. And
then Mayor Adams in New York,
he's like, people don't like me.
You know why they don't like me
because I'm black.
Unknown: Have you ever seen this
much chocolate lead in the city
of New York? Line look, look
who's here. This is
representative of the city.
That's why people are hating on
me. You trying to figure out why
they're hating on me the hating
on me. Because those of you go
to church. Here we go. Man, this
is Matthew 21 and 12 moment
Jesus walked into temple he saw
him doing wrong in a temple. He
did what? I want to see you all
to turn the table over.
Adam Curry: All right, black
Jesus, everybody. There it is
black Jesus. He overturned the
tax tables apparently in City
Hall. This is this is very weak.
Mayor's is very, very weak. But
they're under pressure. Now
they're under pressure. They
can't they can't say anything
about because again, this is
that we don't need comprehensive
immigration reform. We've we've
kind of lost the whole idea that
we don't even need it. We can
just change. It's like no, stop
them. No, it's like, you know,
this is this is policy, not law.
The law is clear. Well, I'm
John C Dvorak: gonna go back.
I'm gonna go back to your that
Biden clip where he blames
Trump.
Adam Curry: Non stop is non
stop. This is this is Trump
thing. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So I looked into
the Senate bill that did go to
the floor and did get voted down
50 to 49. Yeah. Do you know who
voted no. Chuck Schumer his own
bill? Yeah, he voted no, in his
own bill. But what really
happened is it would have
passed. Yeah, but the problem
was for Schumer is that a bunch
of the typical kind of dem dem
Republicans voted yes on it.
That includes you, Lee Lankford
of Oklahoma, Susan Collins of
Maine Murkowski and Mitt Romney.
They all voted yes. And so it
would have passed, it wouldn't
have passed with 60 votes, but
it would have passed and you
wouldn't have had the the Trump
Trump Trump stuff you wouldn't
have Biden's talking points. So
what Schumer did is he voted no,
and then got four of his lackeys
to also vote no, for no apparent
reason that includes Elizabeth
Warren voted no, Marquis Budhia
of California, who is the
substitute for Feinstein and he
has to do what he's told. So he
was told to vote no. So he did
and Menendez of New Jersey,
who's under indictment, who has
to do what Schumer tells him to?
So he could twist it. So it came
out 50 to 49. Exactly because he
had to account for all these
republicans who voted for the
bill to the thing was a scam
used as a publicity stunt. And
nobody knows that Schumer voted
no.
Adam Curry: Well, we couldn't we
can't report on that. There's
not
John C Dvorak: one report you
can come up with right Mensa
mentions that Schumer voted
against his own bill. No, of
course not.
Adam Curry: Of course not. And
Governor Abbott the globalists
just continues to views Eagle
Pass Texas as his theater du
jour Governor
Unknown: Greg Abbott will meet
with state representatives in
April pass all to discuss border
security. This all comes in
response to President Biden's
border policies, which Abbott of
course disagrees with. Prior to
the press conference, the
governor and Texas
representatives will receive a
briefing on Operation lone
star's mission to secure the
border. That meeting will take
place at Shelby Park, which was
once a busy area for illegal
crossings by migrants and where
the state's ag rejected a
request from the Biden
administration to grant federal
immigration officials full
access to that park.
Adam Curry: All right now I need
some help from you. I need help
understanding the thinking
behind the latest episode of NBC
Chicago Med. Which I would say
most of these programs are
propaganda. When you've played
so many clips from these types
of who produces this who
produces Chicago Med is another
West done
John C Dvorak: by Dick Wolf.
Adam Curry: So it's a Dick Wolf
production.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So
Adam Curry: explain to me now
how he gets into these
storylines. Where we have Mr.
Martin gets gets hit by a car.
It's a car wreck. And he wants
to press charges because the man
that hit him is probably here
illegally.
Unknown: Officer. Are you here
to take my statement? Excuse me.
I want to press charges on that
guy right over there. I
overheard someone say that he
might Mp here illegally, I need
to make sure that doesn't affect
my insurance.
Adam Curry: I'll have someone
come speak to you, Mr. Martin.
Wade Martin. Okay. Give me a
minute. Thank you. All right, so
now we're gonna go to the
hospital because of course we
got the guy's wife in the
hospital and well, what wouldn't
you know it? You have a moment?
Yeah.
Unknown: It seems I'm in a bit
of a pickle. Now. So I'm
officially here as Mr. Owen
adores emergency contact. He's
being sheltered in the lobby of
our district. And he's not the
only one. They set up camp about
a week ago. That's why he asked
to call the police. And it's not
just us. They're migrants in
almost every district of the
city and the buses keep coming
up from the border almost
everyday. fleeing a pretty
horrific situation under
Minnesota. Venezuela,
Adam Curry: Venezuela. All
right. So now Mr. Martin is
waiting for his wife to have an
MRI but no. Dr.
Unknown: Marcel? Yeah. It's been
over an hour and my wife hasn't
gotten an MRI yet. I assure you
we have not forgotten. Dr. Ahmad
said she'd make it a priority
but I haven't seen a trace of
her as
soon as an MRI frees up Mr.
Martin.
Adam Curry: I promise she's next
in queue. Yeah, yeah. Next in
queue. What doctor says that
next thing done next in queue?
No, because the immigrants the
illegal aliens go first.
Unknown: Why are you moving? My
wife Sir, please is just
temporary.
Hey, Mr. Martin.
Okay, what's going on?
Did you to authorize this? My
apologies. It appears we're
momentarily. I don't see what's
going on. But you're given all
the rooms to them. Same thing
happened to my kids school they
commandeered her gym for
a shelter. Look, wait, I
assure you we have enough
resources to take care of it.
Oh, we don't. People keep saying
that. But we just don't Okay,
the whole volleyball season got
canceled. My daughter needed
that for a scholarship. And now
my wife She's obviously not
receiving your full attention.
How come nobody's looking out
for it? I understand
that this is an inconvenience.
But we do need to free up this
room. Okay, gonna get away from
her. Please stop.
Adam Curry: No, get away from
me. I'm very confused about the
messaging here is the messaging.
Like don't be douche is the
messaging. If you are a douche,
you're gonna get apprehended and
go to jail is the message we're
being overrun? I don't
understand the message. Here's
the last clip and the
Unknown: updates. I wish I could
say this was an isolated
incident. But from what I'm
hearing around town, it seems
like the welcome wagons broken
down for Zardoz offering to take
Mr. Martin into custody if we
feel the staff safety is
threatened.
Adam Curry: What is the
messaging?
John C Dvorak: Well, the
messaging if you look at it just
overtly, if you make a fuss
you're gonna get you're gonna
get it and get yourself in
trouble
Adam Curry: contained. Yes, yes.
But at the same time, it's also
saying, you know, who watches
this? Nobody. It has ratings.
John C Dvorak: It does. It's
actually gets watched. Yeah, it
Adam Curry: gets watched quite a
bit.
John C Dvorak: People want
there's three of them. There's
Chicago, PD, Chicago Med and
Chicago Fire and they're it's a
it's a trio Troika, a troika of
shows. And they tend to be
they're very it's a very strange
bunch of shows. I have to say.
So you
Adam Curry: don't have an
analysis of why they're doing
this. I don't have one I don't
watch this. I
John C Dvorak: know you don't
have well, you don't have to
watch it to know that
something's up with that
message. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Especially with the
she's next in queue. Really?
Yeah. No,
John C Dvorak: I would just say
she's next in line that's what
the normal person says she's
next in line not she's next in
queues. Code in Chicago. Let you
know. Yeah. In Chicago, they
she's next in line next to go.
Next in queue.
Adam Curry: And then and then 60
minutes. did a piece on the
Chinese aliens. Visitors
newcomers the Chinese who come
right show which show is
beautiful art, which was was
also confusing to me because
these were not military aged
men. These are women primarily
when the women came in, oh,
clean clothes, clean wraps clean
shoes. Couple of them had little
roller bags. Just
Unknown: after sunrise. We saw
the first group of migrants make
their way from Mexico through a
gap between the 30 foot steel
border fence and rocks. ducking
under a bit of razor wire and
into the United States. We were
surprised to see the number of
people coming through from China
nearly 7000 miles away cameras
and at one point this armed
Border Patrol agent standing 25
feet away did not deter them. 30
minutes later, a smugglers SUV
raced along the border fence and
dropped another group at The
same spot, and 30 minutes after
that another group. Over four
days we witnessed nearly 600
migrants, adults and children
pass through this hole and onto
us soil unchecked. The gap is a
global destination littered with
travel documents from around the
world. But we noticed middle
class migrants from China
arriving with rolling bags. They
told us they took flights all
the way to Mexico. Some flew
from China to Ecuador because it
doesn't require a visa for
Chinese nationals. Then took
flights to Tijuana Mexico. The
migrants told us they connected
with smugglers or what they call
snakeheads in Tijuana. And they
each paid them about $400 for
the hour long drive that ended
here at The Gap. Last year, US
Customs and Border Protection
reported 37,000 Chinese citizens
were apprehended crossing
illegally from Mexico into the
US, US Customs and Border
Protection told us their agents
don't have authority to stop
people from coming through gaps
like this one, and can only
arrest them after they've
entered illegally. As for
closing that gap, they said it
is on their priority list would
require money from Congress.
Adam Curry: Hold on. Let me let
me check my to do list. Yeah,
it's up there. It's next in
queue. So this is also some kind
of propaganda. And I have to say
just looking at the 60 minutes
piece. To me, it seems like
exactly as you said, you know,
there's 30 40% unemployment in
China. Although I've had people
say that's not possible. They
can't travel. They gotta be
spies. I don't know they're not
John C Dvorak: there is an
element to that. But Chinese do
travel, of course, they travel
and they can travel to all other
countries. We have to get
permission to travel but they
travel. Yeah. And then
Adam Curry: then they they come
in here because they're looking
for jobs. And of course nail
salons. Toilet, it's better than
it's better than what they've
got. But let's not. Let's not
joke around that. I think
there's also parents and Chinese
parents are just like every
other parents are like, hey,
this really sucks here. We got a
crappy government. There's no
work, and I'm gonna sell the
car. I don't have a car to sell
the house. And I'm gonna get you
out. I'm gonna get you to
America. I think that's that's
also happening. This is
John C Dvorak: a worldwide that
is happening. It has to be
Adam Curry: and it's the
international office of
migration that is everywhere.
Now what we get to see to psych
us up is Darien Gap. These
people are not coming through
the Darien Gap. They got clean
shoes. Everyone saw all these
guys that went to the Darien Gap
traveled for over a week. Yeah,
there's some very sad stories of
the stories of the Darien Gap
that may be 1%
John C Dvorak: of know this
story this way this is being
presented where they just go to
get into in a four by four the
four wheel or four by whatever
it is delayed. It's like an SNS
delay, they get an Escalade,
they get driven for a couple of
hours and dropped off and they
did a $400 cap, right. It's what
it amounts to.
Adam Curry: It's like a Chinese
Uber. Yeah, no, I know makes
John C Dvorak: nothing but
sense. That's what you do. You'd
first you'd find the most
efficient way of getting over.
Yeah, you wouldn't walk your ass
off. No.
Adam Curry: No. So the but in
the meantime, the literal guy
who prints the money is like,
Hey, thank God, we've got
immigration backup. This good.
And he he says immigration. He
knows we knew what he means.
People coming across the border.
He says thank God, thank God.
There's so many jobs we just
didn't know. People moved on
with their lives here in
America. They left
John C Dvorak: all the tents
around.
Adam Curry: They moved on, they
moved on to drugs, they moved on
to camping on the streets.
That's the disgusting part. And
we all go oh, they're spies
urban military age men. Oh,
please. And it's world I was
asked on a Dutch program
yesterday. It's exactly the same
thing. It's exactly the same and
everybody's sick of it. And
remember 40% of the world votes
this year. So now and of course,
of course we need to play this
out for nine more months. Of
course, Trump is telling
everybody keep that goal and
this is great. Of course. Of
course he is he wants to be
president hey it's is it any
worse than pretending to fight
Iran by bombing some some crap
in in Jordan or Syria? Well, not
only to legitimize that were
there. Oh, man. I got one last
quick. This is CBS on the
crumbling of the plan
Unknown: as migrants continue to
cross Congress is frozen in
place. It shows up broken
Washington DC us The US senate
plan to stiffen border security
tightened requirements for
asylum and nearly shuttered the
border during spikes of migrant
crossings had the endorsement of
Senate leaders. I didn't
Adam Curry: see any of that in
any bill. Did you say any of
that? We're going to shutter the
border. No, it was money. Oh,
agents. In
John C Dvorak: fact, there's the
one of the supporters of the
bill a Democrat tweeted that
there's actually no no closing
of the border mentioned even in
the bill. No, it's for more
personal the whole thing was the
bill was a scam. Designed to get
the Republicans to vote no. So
they could be accused. Wanting
Yes, yes. It didn't work out
because the Republicans are
voting yes on it. At least a few
of them. Oh, we got Schumer
voted no, I'm gonna hound people
about this is very good. John.
That's
Adam Curry: an excellent
observation, a national border
Unknown: patrol union.
My Republican colleagues changed
their minds. Turns out they
weren't all talk and no action.
The
motion is not it. But it
collapsed in a vote late today,
credit cards because former
President Trump opposed it.
Adam Curry: Was Trump on the
floor. Was he there like
John C Dvorak: Trump was there
voting no.
Adam Curry: Trump's
Unknown: action. The motion is
not it. But
it collapsed in a vote late
today, in part because former
President Trump opposed it.
Americans are ticked off that
this is not resolved.
Adam Curry: I'm ticked off. How
about you, John? Are you ticked
off?
John C Dvorak: Nobody's ticked
off. It's
Adam Curry: next in queue.
Unknown: The impasse is a blow
also to cities like Chicago,
where Alderman Byron Sixto Lopez
is helping the city respond to
1000s of migrants bust from the
border. The
federal government has
exacerbated and worsening the
issue of the border. The
Senate today then shifted to a
new plan with 10s of billions of
dollars to help Ukraine and
Israel but no border changes. It
will face stiff resistance in
the house.
I mean, this place is just it
just chaos right. Failures
happened a day after House
Republicans came up one vote
short in trying to impeach
Homeland Security Secretary
Alejandro Mayorkas, was it a
surprise how it played out?
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't think it
was a surprise it was more of a
disappointment.
Unknown: Texas Democrat Al Green
hospitalized near the Capitol
after intestinal surgery made a
surprise appearance on the
floor. Casting the deciding
vote. You had to sign a waiver
to get out of the hospital to
vote. It was
acknowledgment that I understood
that there could be some
consequences that could be
adverse in my best interest in
our hero al
the house could vote as early as
next week on a second attempt to
impeach Secretary Mayorkas,
further inflaming and already
fiery and gridlock Congress.
Adam Curry: Okay, so that is the
show that nobody wants to go to
no one no one is interested in
your stupid little show. And no
one's interested in your war.
We'll get to that in a moment
because right now, in this
season of reveal We have
breaking news
Unknown: breaking news from the
UK, Britain's King Charles has
been diagnosed with cancer.
Buckingham Palace has issued a
statement saying that the cancer
was discovered while the king
was undergoing a separate
procedure for an enlarged
prostate. That news coming out
in just the last hour, we need
Adam Curry: to go back in time
for a moment we need to go back
to December 8 2022, episode 1510
of this podcast in UK who
John C Dvorak: have not heard
anything about Charles This is
interesting.
Adam Curry: That's why I call
around now.
John C Dvorak: Charles
Adam Curry: I believe it right
away. People are mad they hate
the HR alls. I think it's also
some you know, they're just
pushing their anger on to him.
Why not?
John C Dvorak: Do what is
available type? If what you say
is true. They're gonna have to
do it because they have to have
a coronation. They can't just
let this last they're gonna have
to kill him. Yeah. So am I six?
Or am I five? It'd be five or
GCHQ those guys were one of
these spooky groups up there.
They're gonna have to get the
old pricker out of them safe
now. I kill him because I
believe you're right.
Adam Curry: I really think
you're right. And Harry has
always been the designee you
know the Charles's mom has been
as long as she could you know
she she did not want to see you
do not want to see Charles on
the throne. And everyone knows
Harry is the chosen one. So I
think it right now. We can put
in the Red Book. The question is
how what is the best way to do
it? We need a cover story. From
the Red Book from the Red Book,
cover story. Oh, we discovered
some worse cancer than the s.
He's done. He's toast he's over.
He's out. Willis arm daily
wasn't going to be now we knew.
We knew it. We knew it. This is
the point. We knew. I mean, who
knows what is going on? But he's
out The hairy dead man did king
for a day. dead dead band rock.
I feel sorry to laugh about it,
but that's what it is. It's what
it is. That's what they do.
Okay, I think before we get into
war because it's just a lot of
net pops or as I heard recently
a net package. This is this is a
new term for us net pops net
package. I think we must talk
about. Of course it happens on a
show day. Tucker Carlson is
going to interview Putin. Oh,
no, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. This
is great. It's, I mean, he
doesn't he needs zero promotion
budget. He doesn't have to
promote anything. The mainstream
media goes out and promotes his
interview for him. What is going
on? There? He's picked up some
tips from Trump. Listen to Erin
Burnett, unhinged,
Unknown: massive shakeup in keep
it coming as Putin is trying to
court the Maga GOP in the United
States. In fact, one of the
leaders of the Maga GOP is in
Moscow tonight.
Adam Curry: Did you don't talk
her as a leader. He's a leader.
John C Dvorak: Somehow a leader
of the mega limits.
Adam Curry: When the Maga GOP
baby,
Unknown: it's the manual. Here P
with the Maga leader Donald
Trump, Tucker Carlson. Possibly
they're in Moscow to interview
Putin definitely there as
opposed supporting celebrity.
Look at them talking about him
like a celebrity. Everything he
does on camera breathlessly
repeated note is unclear if an
interview between Putin and
Carlson will take place. But if
it does, it gives Putin a chance
to sit down with a big
supporter.
It might be worth asking
yourself since it is getting
pretty serious. What is this
really about? Why do I hate
Putin so much? As Putin ever
called me a racist? Has he
threatened to get me fired for
disagreeing with him?
Does he eat dogs? These are fair
questions. And the answer to all
of them is now at that is I
didn't
Adam Curry: do any of that. But
what's the dog thing again?
John C Dvorak: The dog thing is
always a reference to Obama. Oh,
right.
Adam Curry: Right, right, right.
Exactly.
Unknown: I'll actually always
remember watching that clip. I
was standing in Ukraine 48 hours
before the war begin there. By
Putin consistently all the way
through.
Adam Curry: The second she was
there to interviews Alinsky.
That's why she brought that up.
She he had that fawning
interview was before
John C Dvorak: the war began.
She was there. Yeah, two
interviews. By coincidence? I
think not.
Unknown: Well, Carlson then
stood by Putin consistently all
the way through. And that is why
she can go to Moscow now without
Adam Curry: by the way, she said
before the war begin, which was
very odd. It would have been
began.
Unknown: These are fair
questions, and the answer to all
of them is no. Vladimir Putin
didn't do any of that. I'll
actually
always remember watching that
clip. I was standing in Ukraine
48 hours before the war begin
there. Begin there,
Adam Curry: what is their
John C Dvorak: language begin
there?
Adam Curry: She may be a
newcomer before the war begin
there
Unknown: then stood by Putin
consistently all the way
through, and that is why he can
go to Moscow now without any
fear of being summarily
imprisoned, is a hero. This was
Putin's mouthpiece in the United
States, somebody who had turned
a blind eye to the atrocities
committed by Putin because they
were happening far away. Once
vibrant towns turn to ruins mass
graves with dozens of bodies and
the kief suburbs, a theater full
of innocent women and children
sheltering bombed. Despite the
giant world's children written
on the roof, no more than
200,000 Ukrainian soldiers
killed or injured dad, he's a
murderer who's trying to seize
on the fact that Zelinsky is
military appears to be in
turmoil. Yeah, okay.
Adam Curry: So of course, Trump
called up Vladimir and said if
my boys come and this is great,
we'll get your story out. Of
course. It doesn't make Tucker a
leader of the Maga GOP. It makes
me
John C Dvorak: that was of debt
she I didn't know what the word
is. I have a clip for 2001 in
NBC, one of their guys I don't
even know who this guy is
interviewing Putin. Before the
war begin, begin begin.
Beginning beginning there
Adam Curry: and begin there
before the wind begin begin
there. Yes. And
John C Dvorak: this is the kind
of interview and then they just
basically kept Putin out of the
picture after this interview
Unknown: that makes us ask you a
direct question.
Did you order Alexei Navarro
nice assassination. And they
should can use No, of course
not. We don't have this kind of
habit of assassinating anybody.
That's one. Number two is I want
to ask you, did you order the
assassination of the woman who
walked into the Congress and who
was shot and killed by a
policeman? Do you know that 450
individuals were arrested after
entering the Congress? Come on,
they didn't go there to steal a
laptop. And even if they came
with political demands, 450
people have been detained.
You're talking about the
capital, they're looking at jail
time, between 15 and 25 years.
And they came to the Congress
with political demands. Isn't
that prosecution for political
opinions? Yeah, no.
Adam Curry: But to me, to me,
this is this is to get Trump
elected. I mean, I was almost a
no, I knew for sure. I knew it
before it begin. When we brought
her out, there she is. When you
bring out Hillary to promote
this, you know, they want Trump
to win, she wants everybody to
watch. And she's she is
literally using the literal same
playbook about Trump as she did
in 2016.
Unknown: I mean, he's like a
puppy dog, you know, he somehow
has, after having been fired
from so many outlets in the
United States, he, I would not
be surprised if he emerges with
a contract with outlet because
he is a useful idiot. He says
things that are not true. He
parrots Vladimir Putin's pack of
lies about Ukraine. So I don't
see why Putin wouldn't give him
an interview. Because through
him, he can, you know, continue
to lie about what is, you know,
objectives are in Ukraine, and
and you know, what he expects to
see happen? It's really quite
sad that not just somebody like
Tucker Carlson, who has, as I
said, been fired so many times,
because he seems unable to, you
know, correlate his reporting
with the truce. But also because
it's a sign that there are
people in this country right now
who are like a ship's column for
Vladimir Putin and right,
although no, I mean, why are
Republicans throwing their lot
in? Why are you no other
Americans basically believing
Putin? Why did Trump believe
Putin more than our 11
intelligence agents?
Adam Curry: I don't know. Do you
have a working theory? That's
Alex Wagner, MSNBC and she did a
whole Alex Wagner
John C Dvorak: and let me guess
it Alex Wagner say to Hillary
that while she was Secretary of
State that she managed to sell
20% of our uranium reserves to
the Russians. Are you trying to
be like sarcastic that kind of
like a good question, because
that seems like pro Putin this?
No, I think Putin. Oh,
Adam Curry: let's let's listen
to the interview. It was
fascinating. Were you surprised
by remember? It is my belief
that Hillary Clinton is doing
this to to get all the attention
on Trump focus everything on
Trump. Obviously, this is not
going to sway any of the Maga
GOP, but it gets his name out
there and people who sit at home
so I'm yeah, you know, you know,
I'm thinking about this.
Unknown: Were you surprised by
their capitulation to Trump's
whims on the border bill?
I was surprised because it was a
really serious effort. The
Republicans have done this
before. Yes,
Adam Curry: you got it. You had
a question? Could
John C Dvorak: it be a serious
effort when Schumer himself
voted? No.
Unknown: When I was in the
Senate, we overwhelmingly passed
and immigration reform, you
know, in addition to security,
other provisions as well, we
pass it overwhelmingly in the
Senate. Did
Adam Curry: they was it? Was
there something Oh, it was in
the Senate, so never pass? Okay,
then
Unknown: President George W.
Bush. So I would sign it and the
Republican leadership in the
House would never bring it up
for a vote. So I've said for
years, they'd rather have a
problem on the border than a
solution. But I thought this
time, given the seriousness of
the negotiation, the fact that
it was only about security that,
frankly, the Democrats gave up a
lot Yeah, to support the
Republican request for greater
security, which I favored
actually. And then at the last
minute to have Donald Trump tell
people who are independently
elected in their states, and
have an obligation to represent
their constituents and their
conscience that they had to stop
trying to solve the problem and
go back to letting it fester for
his own political Did
Adam Curry: you call Schumer you
must have called Schumer Hey
Chuck Hey Chuck man vote that we
have evidence
John C Dvorak: that he called
anybody Of course, that's what's
Unknown: so beautiful.
This is was pretty shocking to
me. And like sure, right there's
no it wasn't even a surprise was
just
kind of like Trump's telling us
we can't do it because it's not
good for him in an election
year. So we're not going to do
Adam Curry: this is so good with
your your Chuck Schumer
revelation. These are
instructions that Trump told me
not to do it, man.
Unknown: There were a few
profiles and courage for a
little while. People standing up
and saying what are you talking
about? We want to solve this
problem. That's why we're sent
to watching Did but then they
capitulated. And, honestly, it
shows a real danger that Trump
poses where it doesn't matter
whether you have a bipartisan
agreement to solve a problem or
not. If he wants it for
political purposes, then he
tries to and succeeds in blowing
it up. That is what
authoritarians do. Yet another
reason why we can't let him
anywhere near the White House
again. Yeah. Okay.
Adam Curry: So now I want to
play this clip. So I'm glad
she's back.
John C Dvorak: She again, I
disagree with your thesis or
hypothesis or whatever you want
to call it. Now. It says that
we've got a bunch of people
redefining these words.
Adam Curry: You don't think
she's here to promote Trump? No.
John C Dvorak: Oh, she hates
Trump. I don't believe that for
a minute. I think that in fact,
the line that she has, which is
Trump's anti democratic is going
to ruin the democracy in there.
I think she's an idiot, and he's
doing this. She is promoting
Trump. I'm not arguing that.
Yeah, that's my I don't think
she means to.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, then
she's stupid. I'll take stupid
for 25. And we'll take it to the
Supreme Court.
Unknown: Are you optimistic
about what the Supreme Court
does next? I think
on this particular issue,
Adam Curry: this is about the
Colorado ballot. The Supreme
Court and I think they just
heard oral arguments I do.
John C Dvorak: If you watch TV
today, they actually played him
on Fox. I got to hear most of
it. And it doesn't look good for
Colorado, that's for sure. No,
Adam Curry: of course not. And
remember that this is based upon
some guy who's a psychologist
who said, No, Trump was thinking
insurrection? Yes, I
John C Dvorak: know. It's some
guy, some guy was thinking your
mind reader? Yes.
Unknown: If I were the Supreme
Court, I wouldn't want to wade
into this. It's such a good
opinion. I would deny cert let
the opinion stand. Colorado
Adam Curry: such a good opinion,
based upon the guy familiar with
the former President's thinking
it's
Unknown: in line with previous
opinions. You know, when Trump
made the argument about, well,
this whole, you know, hamstring
future presidents Well, he's the
only one who has been in this
position. And he is the only one
who has claimed such broad
blanket immunity. And we know
what his real thoughts are you
remember, I could shoot
somebody?
Adam Curry: No, no, wait, wait,
this is important. Because now
now, now she gets into the
persuasive arguments that are
based on other things that Trump
said
Unknown: broad blanket immunity.
And we know what his real
thoughts are. Remember, I could
shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue,
my supporters wouldn't care. He
thinks that he should be above
the law, that he should be able
to manipulate the law. The last
time I checked, despite Trump
and his supporters efforts to
undermine this. We were a nation
based on the rule of law, not on
the rule of individual men, the
way that Trump keeps trying to
claim
Adam Curry: all right, did Trump
ever say, to your knowledge that
he was going to use SEAL Team
Six to kill his political
enemies?
John C Dvorak: I can't find any
reference to it where I are. I
can't find a clip. No,
Adam Curry: because it wasn't
him. It wasn't him that said
this. I mean, as
Unknown: someone who ran for the
presidency and one popular vote,
is it like can you even wrap
your head around arguing in
court that you should be able to
kill your assassinate your
political enemies using SEAL
Team Six? I mean, how did that
that argument land
with you? Well, you know, he
says, so many outrageous things.
Yeah, that I think a lot of
people have stopped listening,
and they shouldn't, they should
pay very careful attention to
what Trump says.
Adam Curry: Now, just to remind
ourselves where this was used.
We go to Stephen Colbert, who
for some unbelievable reason has
Joy read on the show.
Unknown: It looks like you know,
all the safe money is on a Biden
Trump rematch here. Yeah.
Besides the deja vu, yes, what
it what it what is that like for
you? Because some people aren't
sure how to approach this
differently. This time. What is
your approach to this election?
anything different than 2020?
You know,
the difference between that
election and this one is that it
was an up in the air question.
It was not an up in the air
question. I should say in the
previous election, whether the
President of the United States
could use SEAL Team Six to kill
his political opponents.
So it's a little different out
right like we it's a different
Trump. Well, that was the
argument. Lawyers made Yeah,
Adam Curry: his lawyers made
that argument. He never said
that. It was part of an argument
argumentation. So we go back to
Hillary because
Unknown: If they do, they can
see the linkage between what he
says and what he tries to do. In
his first term. On many
occasions, he was reined in and
even stopped by the people
around him because there were
people who he put into important
positions, who had served in
government under prior
Republican presidents who
understood the rule of law, who
understood the constitutional
system and so much more. They
were able to stop him. He will
now fill those positions, if
ever given a chance, which I
hope never happens with people
who are
Adam Curry: I love how he says
he will now fill those
positions, which I hope never
happens
Unknown: to stop him. He will
now fill those positions. She
Adam Curry: knows he's gonna
win. There it is. She knows it
already. It's it's a foregone
conclusion in her mind,
Unknown: she will now fill those
John C Dvorak: positions. He's
going to win doesn't mean she
wants him to
Adam Curry: win. No, but that's
why she says he will now fill
those positions. And then she
says, which we hope will never
have she
John C Dvorak: will. No, no, I
agree that the writing's on the
wall. Yes,
Adam Curry: let's just finish
it. 30
Unknown: seconds, she will now
fill those positions, if ever
given a chance, which I hope
never happens with people who
are totally members of his cult.
And I don't say that lightly or
as a throwaway line. Because
when I look at people who I
know, were horrified by January
6, who are Republicans in the
House and the Senate, who have
come around to dismissing it to
discounting the horror that they
themselves felt, as they, you
know, put put themselves under
desks as they ran down hallways
as they tried to escape the mob
coming at them. There is
something about Trump's hold on
the Republican Party that is
frightening. It's
Adam Curry: frightening. Thunder
bolts of lightning
John C Dvorak: players that clip
this is the immunity. That was
the thing about shooting your
political opponents came out of
the immunity argument. Yes. This
is from Democracy Now without
Amy Goodman. Okay,
Adam Curry: no, no, no warning,
no warning. Thank you no
warning, no warning the Trump
John C Dvorak: immune kicker
Unknown: in its ruling. The
three judge panel of the US
Court of Appeals for the DC
Circuit wrote, quote, We cannot
accept former President Trump's
claim that a president has
unbounded authority to commit
crimes that would neutralize the
most fundamental check on
executive power, the recognition
and implementation of election
results. The judges went on to
write quote, nor can we sanction
his apparent contention that the
executive has carte blanche to
violate the rights of individual
citizens to vote and to have
their votes count. Trump has
vowed to appeal the ruling
possibly to the Supreme Court.
during oral arguments last
month, Trump's legal team
claimed the former president
should have full immunity to do
anything, even assassinate
political opponents.
John C Dvorak: Let's keep that
in play. Yes.
Adam Curry: Well, so there is
persuasion happening everywhere.
And I think Trump is full on
he's got everybody out there,
including ice cube. And
Unknown: yes, yeah.
Adam Curry: And the reason why I
say ice cube because I saw your
clips and I'm pretty sure I know
what it's about. Your rappers
lament. I just, I just want to
save everyone from
embarrassment. We talked about
this 12 years ago. This story,
that hip hop, there was a secret
music meeting. And the people
who own the labels also own the
prisons, we're going to make hip
hop music we're going to make
that gangster rap. So we put all
the black people in jail,
John C Dvorak: the private jail
so they can make money.
Adam Curry: This is bull crap
Unknown: is
Adam Curry: not true. And Ice
Cube repeated this. This is out
there. People are sending me
this. I mean, I'm if you want to
play some of these clips, I'm
happy to but we have we have
read this letter from this
anonymous music industry
executive verbatim on this show.
12 years ago, it's been around
forever. I've talked about it
with Moe, there's no evidence of
this. There's no evidence of
these people owning the private
prisons. What there's evidence
of is that this is a this is to
rile up black Americans against
Joe Biden. For one reason and
one reason only listen to the
important date here, say
Unknown: red music. Same people
who own the labels on the
prisons. So literally the same
people literally the same people
who own the labels on private
prisons. The records that come
out
are really geared to push people
towards their prison industry,
but they didn't make you write
those lyrics. It's not about
making. It's not about making
somebody write the lyrics. It's
about
being near as guardrails to make
sure certain songs make it
through and certain songs don't.
This This to me is in some way,
you know, some social
engineering going on here to to
make sure those prisons stay
full
do they actually like go Monday,
Tuesday go to work as a record
company executive and Wednesday
through Friday? Go work on
prisons now.
No. Okay. So if of course
they're not, they're not
actually running the labels,
they have to knows they have
financial interests, they have
financial IceCube
Adam Curry: is not stupid keys
on the team. This happened this,
this so called secret meeting
happened in 1991. And what
happened? This is what you will
hear next? Is it because this is
going to be taken as fact? Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. There was a
secret meeting and this guy was
there. And, and it was in 1991.
It was to get all the black
people all riled up and get him
to commit crimes and go to jail.
And what happened in 1992? The
Biden crime bill, you watch
that's next. This is a psyop.
It's an actual up to get black
people to hate Joe Biden to
remind them of the 1992 crime
bill.
John C Dvorak: Well, you've
proved my point. Yeah, that's
exactly what's going on in the
crime bill thing which they
tried to bring out in the first
election and 2020 was a huge
flop. Yep. They couldn't get it
to take get hold, take hold,
couldn't get it. I mean, they
could do a little bit of it
during the Hillary election
because she had called black
criminals. I forgot if it was
there wasn't a word vermin, but
was some horrible phrase that
she had, I should know this.
Black criminals back in the day.
super predators, super predators
shredded or super predators. I
remember that. Yes. So but that
didn't get catch either. But
there it is. possible that I
have her
Unknown: not just gangs of kids
anymore. They are often the
kinds of kids that are called
super predators, no conscience,
no empathy. We can talk about
why they ended up that way. But
first, we have to bring them to
heel.
Adam Curry: Bring him bring him.
Yeah. Yeah. So this is so
John C Dvorak: the Democrats
have got these issues, but
they've been able to keep them
under wraps. But using this as a
two pronged approach, which is
to re introduce the gangster rap
as a mechanism created for the
private prisons. Yep. And then
follow it up with the crime
bill. And the commentary that
Joe had back in the day, which
he doesn't remember. I'm sure
Adam Curry: you know, but it was
good. It was good. Be
John C Dvorak: quite just a good
move. Yeah. Okay. Ice
Adam Curry: cubes on the team.
There's no doubt. I mean, he
knows he was making music in the
90s. Oh, come on ice cube. Do
you know that you know, oh, no,
they wouldn't. They wouldn't put
my records out unless it was
about killing other black men.
No, Mo No. No. I mean, it's true
today that the record labels
encouraged drill rap, of course,
on sub labels, so they can make
money and you know, then make it
go big and push the Spotify
algos. That's true. But this
view I'm, we're just, they may
flop but I think it's I think
it's very strong because it came
to you. It's been coming to me
from and it's like, Hey, did you
hear about this up? We're on
MTV, then when did you know
about this meeting? To no fool?
No. Of course not. The music
business is bad, but they're not
that bad. That they're also
running commercial prisons. No.
I was the same people. We had a
meeting. We had to sign a piece
of paper. No, it
John C Dvorak: was about a piece
of paper story which creates
this problem is the one guy
that's floating around now
within the clips that I have. He
hasn't been in the music
business for a while that piece
of paper is valid because all it
says in the piece of paper is
that if you reveal this, you're
gonna get fired. Right? But
you're not even working for that
same company. You get fired from
what the minute you quit that
job. You should go public. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But there's no one
identified as the guy who wrote
that. Who wrote that up. I mean,
that that thing just been out
there. forever, as I said,
12 1214 years that that story
has been around. And we and we,
I think I read Yeah, we read it
verbatim on the show. So, but
that, so there's a lot of a lot
of things at work here. And then
we have, we have war, trying to
make some war. And just to show
you how, however,
John C Dvorak: before you
venture off to the war, that
we're going to pass over the
three by three Oh, well, let's
do
Unknown: a three by three.
Adam Curry: Five JC
Unknown: comparing stories from
a
Adam Curry: never ending three
by three where we take a look at
the headlines from the big news
networks. Do they get NAT
packages? Not pops? John has it?
Oh,
John C Dvorak: this is the one
this is about Trump's getting
where they said now you didn't
get this kind of immunity you're
looking for okay. But this is
the appeals court. Yeah, that
does it. So it's gonna go to the
Supreme Court. It's not over
yet. And they got it. They can't
let this stand because in fact,
immunity,
Adam Curry: immunity from
insurrection, just immunity in
general immunity from what?
immunity
John C Dvorak: from anything if
you're if you commit a crime in
office, you're immune from
prosecution, but you're not
immune from impeachment. The
remedy because the President has
to do all kinds of things that
could be seen from the outside
world is very illegal. It's very
like, like killing Americans
with drones.
Adam Curry: Oh, thanks. Thanks.
Thanks, Obama,
John C Dvorak: and eating dogs,
which Obama did. That could be
illegal in some states. So so he
has to maintain it. Because if
this falls through, Obama could
be an every president probably
and this is what happens in
Europe and elsewhere, where they
don't have this kind of
immunity. The guy gets you taken
out of office and the guy comes
in, they immediately go after
the old guy. They arrest him.
Adam Curry: I like it wasn't
Milosevic.
John C Dvorak: Well, there's
none. Not only him, but
everybody in South America.
Yeah. Who's ever been a leader
there has been arrested there
was affected leader, current
leader of Brazil was got elected
after being in prison. I mean,
it's just unbelievable. So you
can't you have to have this kind
of thing. And then if if it goes
too far, if the guy's really a
political opponent, he gets
impeached, you impeach him, and
it's not that hard to do. So
that's what you're supposed to
do. So they and and I would say
George Bush could be a war
criminal. Couldn't be
Unknown: good. No problem.
John C Dvorak: So here we go
with that. So but it got
rejected at the lower courts.
It's gonna go up at the point of
the three by threes to compare
the coverage. Let's start with
ABC and Pierre Thomas site
Unknown: in a scathing opinion
of federal appeals court
rejecting Donald Trump's claims
he has complete immunity from
prosecution for anything he did
as president, including his
efforts to overturn the 2020
election. The three judge panel
unanimously ruling former
President Trump has become
citizen Trump, any executive
immunity that may have protected
him while he served as president
no longer protects him against
this prosecution. We cannot
accept that the office of the
presidency places its former
occupants above the law for all
time thereafter. Trump claims he
cannot be tried for trying to
overturn the election and his
actions leading up to January 6,
the president has to have
immunity in court in January.
The judge is deeply skeptical,
asking if a president could
order the assassination of his
opponent and get away with it.
Trump's lawyer arguing and
President can't be charged
unless he is first impeached and
convicted by Congress.
President who ordered SEAL Team
steps to assassinate a political
rival, who was not impeached
he'd be subject to criminal
prosecution if he were impeached
and convicted. First to answer
is.
Today the court was blunt. We
cannot accept former President
Trump's claim that the President
has unbounded authority to
commit crimes to judges also
taking aim at the serious nature
of the charges. Trump faces
writing former President Trump's
alleged efforts to remain in
power despite losing the 2020
election where it proven an
unprecedented assault on the
structure of our government.
Trump isn't until Monday to
appeal to the Supreme Court if
the High Court declines the
appeal. The judge overseeing the
case could set a new trial date
soon. But if the Supreme Court
decides to consider the matter,
all bets are off David. There
could be lengthy delays I'm
Adam Curry: very excited to see
how NBC and CBS handled this Do
they have the same quote the
same SEAL Team Six quote bullet
John C Dvorak: be the thing
about you know you can shoot
your political opponents still
cracks me up is great because
they keep us To get in
everyone's using it as leverage
because he wants to be dictator
from day one owner only on day
one, but no, no, but that's not
the way it's being presented
from day one from day one. Yes.
Not only on day one. Okay, let's
go to that was what ABC is going
to NBC
Unknown: FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD
TRUMP today dubbed citizen Trump
by a three judge panel in
Washington ruling, Mr. Trump is
not immune from prosecution, the
court saying we cannot accept
that the office of the
presidency places its former
occupants above the law for all
time thereafter.
Adam Curry: But wait a minute.
He was president When? When?
Yeah, when this took place. So
they're they're confusing the
matter. They're arguing about
something which of course is
true. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's not what
they argued in court.
Adam Curry: Arguing that Yeah,
well, that. Well, they're making
it make it
John C Dvorak: appear as though
okay, I was present. So now I
can ever they're on mute.
Everything. Yeah, that's not
what the case is about. But
that's what the network interest
wants you to think. Yeah, it's
not true.
Unknown: No, the Trump campaign
saying he'll appeal the decision
like how they keep saying
citizen Trump. Trump himself
bemoaning the ruling saying, oh,
a President of the United States
have full immunity in order to
properly function and do what he
should
Adam Curry: have used our word
lamenting, but then but they
said bemoaning the moon itself
bemoaning
Unknown: the ruling saying a
President of the United States
must have full immunity in order
to properly function and do what
has to be done for the good of
our country. Special Counsel
Jack Smith charged Mr. Trump
last summer for his efforts to
reverse the 2020 election
results and stop the peaceful
transfer of power.
We will never give up. We will
never concede Mr.
Trump's legal team has been
trying to get the charges tossed
out for months, arguing he
should be completely immune from
prosecution for any acts he took
as president. The court today
unpersuaded saying we cannot
accept former President Trump's
claim that a president has
unbounded authority to commit
crimes that would neutralize the
most fundamental check on
executive power. The recognition
and implementation of election
results the Trump campaign
capitalizing on the court's
decision today with a
fundraising plea, as a
Republican front runner
frequently uses his legal
setbacks as fuel for his latest
White House bid.
If you have a president that
doesn't have immunity, he's
never going to be free to do
anything because the opposing
party will always indict him as
soon as he leaves the White
House with
today's ruling Mr. Trump's only
hope at avoiding trial is for
the Supreme Court to find he is
immune, which would have major
implications in the other legal
cases he faces as well. What are
the next steps? What's
the timeline ahead?
Well, that's where the court
today said Mr. Trump has just
until Monday to appeal this to
the US Supreme Court. Now, it's
unclear if the justices There
will even take up the case. But
if they choose not to this trial
could happen as early as this
summer less right.
Adam Curry: So what do you
think?
John C Dvorak: I mean, well,
first of all, NBC did not drop
the bomb. They didn't put it in
their shooting, your CEO
cynically quoted what's wrong
with them? Sorry,
Adam Curry: what's wrong with
them? That's the best.
John C Dvorak: That's the best I
know. And NBC is the most anti
Trump of the network. They had
it
Adam Curry: on MSNBC with
Hillary let her put it in there.
They should have put it in. So
John C Dvorak: I'm baffled by
that particular coverage report.
It was a very it was light. It
was lightweight. Let's go to CBS
and see what Jan Crawford SSA
the
Unknown: ruling by the
influential DC based federal
appeals court was a stern rebuke
of the former president sweeping
claims about immunity from
prosecution with a court saying
the former president must face
trial for efforts to subvert the
2020 election. For the purpose
of this criminal case former
President Trump has become
citizen Trump with all the
defenses of any other criminal
defendant in court and on the
campaign trail. Donald Trump
repeatedly says he can't be
prosecuted for his actions as
president, a president
has to be given immunity and
this has nothing to do with me.
But the three judge panel of two
Democratic appointees and one
Republican was unanimous and
emphatic any executive immunity
that may have protected him
while he served as president no
longer protects him against this
prosecution. Well, the bounds of
Trump's immunity arguments
became clear last month while he
sat in the front row of a packed
courtroom, one of the judges
presented his lawyer with a
dramatic hypothetical.
Yes, no, yes or no question.
Could a president who ordered
steel team sets to assassinate a
political rival who was not
impeached he'd be subject to
criminal prosecution if he were
impeached and convicted first.
Since
the Senate declined to convict
Trump. That argument would mean
Special Counsel Jack Smith could
and you
John C Dvorak: know, I think
about it, it was actually the
judge who came up with the high
pathetical Not to Trump's
lawyers.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna listen to
it again. It is everybody says
John C Dvorak: it's Trump's
lawyers. A hypothetical.
Adam Curry: Let me listen to me
with
Unknown: a dramatic
hypothetical. While he sat in
the front row of a packed
courtroom, one of the judges
present his lawyer with a
dramatic hypothetical.
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, wow. Not
only Trump not said someone who
hates Trump said it.
Unknown: That's great. Yes, no,
yes or no question. Could a
president who ordered SEAL team
sets to assassinate a political
rival who was not impeached?
He'd be subject to criminal
prosecution.
Adam Curry: You should never
answer a hypothetical if he were
impeached and convicted first.
Unknown: Since the Senate
declined to convict Trump. That
argument would mean Special
Counsel Jack Smith couldn't
either and the appeals court
flatly rejected it. So
Adam Curry: that was clearly a
talking point that a lot of
people agreed upon. They they
must have had a meeting about
that. Oh, Judge, you've got to
ask this question. We will all
use it for years.
Unknown: And Jan Crawford is
here with us. And so a CBS News
Chief Election campaign
correspondent Robert Kosta, good
to have both of you here for
more context and analysis. So
Jim, this is not the end of
this, right? Oh, no, it's
not. I mean, he can ask the full
court of appeals to reconsider
this or he can skip that step
and just go straight to the
Supreme Court. But having lost
it every tournament, I think
that is a long shot. I don't see
how he's going to get five votes
from the Supreme Court if they
decide to take up this case. And
if they do, I still think we're
looking at a trial possibly late
spring or early summer. Oh,
Adam Curry: well, I think the
Supreme Court will punt on this
one. They don't want to deal
with that.
John C Dvorak: I disagree. You
think they're gonna take it? I
think they'll take it. But it'll
go on the docket. They won't be
purged for forever.
Adam Curry: No, but it would be
more fun because during the
summer months, we need some TV
action. Everything's on hiatus.
I'm just thinking in from it
logic,
John C Dvorak: but nobody's
watching TV during the summer.
That's the prompt
Adam Curry: that will we'll have
something to watch will is free
content. Free. All right. Yes,
it
John C Dvorak: was CBC Canada
Canada's they got a report.
Unknown: For what happened on
January 6, when a mob stormed
the US Capitol to overturn the
2020 presidential election
results. Donald Trump can face
prosecution, that according to a
unanimous and scathing ruling
from a three judge federal
appeals panel, they wrote We
cannot accept former President
Donald Trump's claim that a
president has unbounded
authority to commit crimes. It's
a total rejection of Trump's
claims that his actions on that
day are protected by
presidential immunity on social
media. Trump railed against the
ruling calling it dangerous. He
wrote, a President of the United
States must have full immunity
in order to properly function
during proceedings. That line of
argument was repeatedly
challenged by the three judge
panel, including judge Karen
luxcraft Henderson.
I think it's paradoxical to say
that his constitutional duty to
take care that the laws be
faithfully executed allows him
to violate criminal laws.
Today's ruling is unprecedented
largely because no former
American president has ever
faced criminal charges. In
Washington. Trump's supporters
once again blame the former
president's legal troubles on
political bias. Speaker of the
House, Mike Johnson,
Adam Curry: I believe that
they've been after President
Trump for partisan political
purposes. I think that's obvious
and and we call it law fair. And
I think there's no other way to
describe
Unknown: from Trump loyalist
Representative Matt Gaetz.
We are here today to
authoritatively express that
President Trump did not commit
an insurrection. Trump's
team has until February 12, to
file an appeal to the Supreme
Court and what the court decides
could have an effect on whether
the issue is settled before or
after the November election.
Adam Curry: The sad thing about
this is is it has destroyed all
faith in the American justice
system. I would hate to be sued.
I'd hate to be charged for
anything. You've got no chance.
It's all corrupt. I'm not Am I
Am I stating the obvious here?
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know if it's as bad as you make
it out to be. Well, yeah, I
would say at the highest levels.
Yes. Yeah. But not necessarily
locally.
Adam Curry: By him unless some
Nut Job says You raped her at
Bergdorf Goodman and they and
they say, Well, you know you
didn't rape her, but you defamed
her At $3 million $3
John C Dvorak: million, you
Adam Curry: know, it's like, no,
I think there's loss. Well, the
real problem
John C Dvorak: is it the cost of
these defenses is just
ridiculous. He's going broke
doing these studies. I mean,
those mean, imagine
Adam Curry: that the government
is finance the government sues
me for for denying the moon
landing. Things are so bad that
even Trudeau is telling the
candidate avions they don't want
to be like Trump.
Unknown: What we hear from the
Leader of the Opposition is
under the previous Conservative
government, everything was
perfect. And what he is
proposing to do is to make
Canada great. Again, that is not
what Canadians want. He is
pining for, quite frankly,
Canadians do not feel. Don't
Adam Curry: make Canada great
again. No, no. Our Canadians
want no they don't want it to be
great again at all. All right,
so we have the we have the
Democrats in this grand sciatica
game, which I don't even know
how many people are really that
interested in, but it is good
for us to just pull it apart. We
have the Republicans or the
Democrats and saying, oh, it's
Trump's fault. This war. And now
we have Lindsey Graham, I mean,
the for the border. Lindsey
Graham is now going to put his
ugly little fat fingers into the
war business than that, you
know, they're doing it all
wrong. And and, you know, it
would have been better if If
Trump were in office. I mean,
the whole thing is just
disgusting.
Unknown: Our national security
is in freefall. Morgan Ortega
has made a very good point. Look
at the record for the last three
years. This is a symptom of a
greater problem. We withdrew
from Afghanistan, the Taliban
took over in 2021, showing
weakness Putin invades Ukraine
and 2022 and 2023. Hamas attacks
Israel, killing more Jews and
anytime since the Holocaust,
Holocaust 24. We're having
America.
Adam Curry: I love this whole
low cost like Hola, de
Unknown: masa tax Israel,
killing more Jews. And anytime
since the Holocaust 2024. We're
having Americans killed by
Iranian proxies. In the Mideast,
they're pushing us all over the
place. Our national security is
in freefall. Here's what works.
Here's something they value
Soleimani was killed with a
single strike. He was there
General Patton and Eisenhower,
there was nothing left but a
small green card, car and a ring
finger. Ring finger it works.
Here's what we need to do. You
need to hit something that I
told, told the values his
leadership team like a solomani,
or take him out of the oil
business, if we hit their oil
infrastructure. You don't need
manned aircraft. They got four
refineries, you can see from
space, if you're not one of them
out, they would stop this. Our
American troops are in harm's
way. If the goal is to deter
Iran, you're failing miserably.
They got the message. What
they're not afraid of us. They
were afraid of Trump, they're
not afraid of us. It is not
working. We need to change our
policy. People are not afraid of
us this idea of hitting hundreds
of targets doesn't matter the
only Iranian we killed in Syria
or Iraq or or is some dumbass
that don't know to get out of
the way we gave them a weeks
notice. So if there another
round of strikes coming I hope
they they really will hurt Iran
in their pocketbook or kill
their leadership because if you
don't nothing changes.
Adam Curry: The guy who
literally told Mark Zuckerberg
he had blood on his hands is
saying Hey, kill some people
kill some kill some people that
matter blow some stuff up. But
he's I think he's right. You
know, these so called strikes
that we're doing. It's just if
anything is just to legitimize
that we're in Jordan, where we
shouldn't be in the first place
John C Dvorak: or Syria. We can
be in Jordan,
Adam Curry: not in Syria, Syria,
Syria, Syria.
John C Dvorak: Now. If we go
back to a clip, I remind people
that we had I don't have the
clip in front of me. But we had
this clip of one of our analysts
going on that this whole thing
is a scam because we're in bed
with Iran. Yes.
Adam Curry: Do you remember that
clip?
John C Dvorak: No, I you know,
I'm gonna have to try to dig it
up. The claim was that we're in
bed with Iran, the whole thing's
phony. That's why we don't want
to get to a war with or even get
pushed into one and they don't
want one either. Because we know
we're all doing this for more
oil to get into the market. The
market is flooded with oil.
Biden has done just the opposite
of what he said he was going to
do but he can't talk about it or
brag about it because his base,
you know is all against fossil
fuels. But again, and all you
have to do is go to the American
Petroleum Institute or anybody
else and you'll find that we've
been pumping more oil than ever.
Stickley internationally than
ever before. We're flooded. The
market has got lots of oil. I
Adam Curry: think this is all
even the Red Sea. It's all about
control of oil. All of it.
John C Dvorak: Which has been
kind of a thesis of the show.
Yeah. Says the pipeline pipe
episode.
Adam Curry: pipelines, oil. And
then pipeline episode. Yep. 118
or something. 180. Way back.
180. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well, I want to
play some clips from Al Jazeera
about this war because they
brought on an Iraq Iranian
professor at the University of
Tehran. And he brings in some
points that we've made on the
show. The guy's glib and he is a
dick. And you and he smirks when
the other people are talking
especially the American
representative, the representing
American side of the argument
and he's on Yeah, sure. You just
see it in his eyes. And he's got
but he's got some things to say
that I think are interesting
enough that our, our group here
should be aware of or be
reminded of mostly, let's go
with this. Clip one.
Unknown: Let's bring in our
guests for today's discussion
from Tehran. We're joined by
Mohammad marandi, a political
analyst and professor at the
University of Tehran from
London, read up Mandsaur, Senior
Research Fellow and Director of
the Iraq initiative at Chatham
House, a British think tank, and
from Washington, DC Lawrence
Coates, senior fellow at the
Center for American Progress and
former US Assistant Secretary of
Defense Gentlemen, welcome to
you all. Mohammad, marandi
Professor. How dangerous moment
is for is this for the region
will these strikes be the last
the
United States is only digging it
digging itself into into into
the deeper hole? The United
States is illegally occupying
1/3 of Syria, the United States
keeps its military bases in
Iraq, despite the fact that the
Iraqi parliament has told them
to leave. They struck bases that
are linked to the Iraqi
military, they belong to the
Iraqi military, the Iraqis
condemned the attack. And the
same is true with Syria. They
will Biden wants to look strong.
He hasn't attacked the Iranians.
And most importantly, is the
fact that this is about Iraqi
and Syrian sovereignty. The
Americans like to call everyone
Iranian proxies. The Yemenis is
the Lebanese, the Palestinians
and the Iraqis and the Syrians.
But that's just they're just
misleading public opinion. And
they're fooling themselves.
People don't like their
countries to be occupied.
You could also argue, Professor
that Iran is occupying parts of
Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon
couldn't you know, I always
Adam Curry: when, of course,
this guy is going to be right,
I'm sure. But always I always
feel bad when we do the show.
And like, we're the bad guys.
We're just delicious. I mean,
we're occupying everybody's I
know, we've been saying it for
16 years. Because because it's
been true, but just feel bad
about it. Let's stop. That. That
is the one thing that I've
really, really liked about
Trump. Just you know, let's not
do that. Let's just do our own
thing over here. Let's not do
that. Yeah, yeah. All kinds of
back deals and backroom deals
with everybody but well,
John C Dvorak: the backroom
stuff the back channeling is
what, and they bring it out in
this commentary because the guy
who's not the Chatham House guy
really doesn't say much, which
is kind of remarkable in itself
since they always have something
to say as propagandistic Chatham
House is an interesting
operation. It's like, kind of
like the nine
Adam Curry: CFR you have Chatham
House rules where anything we
say, can be talked about. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that kind of
thing. But the other guy, the,
the, the American ex, I think
he's a do defensive army guy. He
brings up some interesting
points. And I think that and
they're in these clips, where
what is on the surface is
bullcrap. Because most of the
back channeling is just the
opposite of what we're hearing.
And it calls out this Iranian
guy a couple of times, but let's
go with clip two. No,
Unknown: Iran doesn't have any
forces in Iraq and Iran. role in
Syria is with the consent of the
internationally recognized
government in Damascus. And in
any case, but
it has been it has, it has
proxy. It had does have proxy
militias, though doesn't it?
Know whatever Iran does in
Syria. It is with the consent
and support of the government.
Iran helps defeat ISIS and Al
Qaeda. Remember in on February
the 12th 2012, Jake Solomon and
now un, US national security
adviser sent an email to Hillary
Clinton saying, who was the
secretary of state saying that
in Syria, al Qaeda is on our
side, ISIS came from al Qaeda,
the US Defense Intelligence
Agency documented 2012 said that
the US allies in the region
wanted to establish a solid
Salafist entity between Iraq and
Syria. And then the General
General Michael Flynn, who was
the head of the that agency at
the time said in an interview on
on AlJazeera, that you guys took
a while,
Adam Curry: right? You say
Michael Flynn,
Unknown: to establish a solid, a
solid first entity between Iraq
and Syria. And then the General
General Michael Flynn, who was
the head of the that agency at
the time, said in an interview
on on Al Jazeera, that the US
took a willful decision to
support the establishment of
their Salafis entity that was
ISIS. So the Iranians when the
US and its allies were
establishing ISIS and al Qaeda
and their affiliates, the
Iranians were helping the
Syrians and Iraqis to prevent
ISIS from taking over Damascus
and Baghdad. Right. So
Adam Curry: let's just agree on
one thing. This is not because
we hate anybody that lives in
the sand is because there's oil
in the sand. And we have the
military industrial complex
which employs it. It's our
business. Yeah, I mean, that's
oil that's needed. Our business
is oil. Our business is war.
John C Dvorak: Well, the war is
just a war is more a function of
making sure that oil Yes, slow.
Yes.
Adam Curry: I love how some of
the trolls are saying, Speak for
yourself. Curry. I'm not an
American. I don't I don't I
don't agree with those crooks in
Washington. Yeah, you can't walk
away from it.
John C Dvorak: Crooks go vote
Adam Curry: that'll change
things.
Unknown: In London, what do you
make of what you just heard,
but I think I mean, it's
important to kind of nuance some
of this history. The Americans
were also invited to Iraq in
2014, by the Iraqi government,
to support in the fight against
ISIS. So at that time, and
during the fight against ISIS,
the Americans and the Iranians
had they had a common enemy. And
they fought, you know, not, not
on the same side by side. But
with this with the common end,
yes, after ISIS, we're living in
this sort of post ISIS arena,
this region, where now they're
sort of turned on each other.
And this is the latest of this
escalation. So both Iran and the
US have significant influence
across these countries. The US
does have troops in Iraq and
Syria. And Iran, of course, has
you know, I agree that calling
them proxies takes the agency
away from these groups, but they
are aligned, and they do work
together. And these are networks
that span across Yemen, Lebanon,
Syria and Iraq, pursuing at
times Iran's foreign policy
goals. So this is a very
dangerous, I think I you know,
some are calling it tinderbox
right now, where neither the
Iranians nor the Americans want
an all out war or a direct
conflict. But what we're seeing
is this tit for tat show of
force that's making the region
very dangerous.
Adam Curry: Oh, the region.
Thank God, we're back in the
region. The region is great. You
know, what's in the region? Our
oil under their sand is in the
region. Exactly.
John C Dvorak: Right. And I
think that's brought up in the
next clip
Unknown: Flores called Do you
want to come back on anything
that you've heard so far? Before
I put a direct question to you?
Yeah, I think it's important to
keep in mind that we left Iraq
in 2011. In fact, I talked to my
lucky about staying basic.
Basically, we came back in 2014,
at their invitation, because of
what ISIS was doing. And
basically, that has been our
role. Before October 7, we were
carrying this out, we were
talking to the Iraqis about
leaving, sometimes they say
something publicly, but
privately, no, they still wanted
us to say, but after October 7,
you had over 160 attacks on the
American forces there in Iraq
and Syria. Fortunately, no one
was killed. So our response was
not overwhelming, or as strong
as it has been when the
Americans died. And that's where
we are right right now, and my
experience with the Iraqis a lot
of times they'll say something
publicly to appease the
Iranians, but then privately
they'll say, no, no, we really
still want you to stay. You know
what I
Adam Curry: do? I'm missing. I'm
missing shots of people saying
death to America, they need to
get that going again. And I
honestly I would really like to
have the those guys in the
orange jumpsuits beheading
people again, because that was
some good video they were
producing.
John C Dvorak: I think the Yeah,
that was good. It was it was
more entertaining than what
we're getting that kind of dry
is kind of academic. In fact,
this These clips are very much
that way.
Adam Curry: I know. But it's
still good stuff. It's a good
reminder because this goes back
1010 years, eight years, all of
this stuff is just if nothing
has changed. They just rehab
rehashing this is five. Yeah, as
good as the last one, right?
Yes. Last six.
John C Dvorak: There's six. Oh,
yes.
Unknown: I'm sorry, six.
Muhammad, the US national
security Spokesman John Kirby
said that the goal is to get the
attacks on US interests to stop.
We're not he said, quote looking
for a war with Iran. Now, no
targets were hit within Iran in
these retaliatory strikes. How
will Iran and its proxies
respond? Well, it will not cease
rain these groups in as Lawrence
said the US wants it to. Let's
be clear, contrary to what your
guest in the United States says
these are not proxies. And the
real issue here is the genocide
in Gaza. I have no doubt about
it. And the United States, as we
speak, is preparing the Israeli
regime for an expansion in
Lebanon. So in the coming weeks,
we may have heavy fighting in
southern Lebanon. The United
States is not retaliating in
Syria, the United States is an
illegal occupation force in
Syria, in the Al TANF area where
it occupies, in fact, there are
tribes that were loyal to ISIS,
those tribes are trained by the
Americans right now. And they
use that area al TANF to attack
Syrian government forces. And in
the in the last couple of
months, they carried out two
major attacks, in each case
killing between 15 to 20
conscript soldiers on buses, and
I think on both occasions, so
the United States, its presence
in Syria is illegal. It is
stealing Syrian oil in the east
of the country, and exporting is
no wrong one, the United States
has bombed Iraqi military
positions, it has destroyed
Iraqi facilities that were
constructed and paid for by the
Iraqi government. This is the
reality on the ground. Nothing
will change that. Okay.
Adam Curry: So the one thing I'd
like to understand is who and
how are we pumping the oil out
of Syria? What kind of know what
competent? That's
John C Dvorak: a crazy
accusation. But it sounds right.
The only thing that explains our
presence in Syria, but
Adam Curry: who what company who
was I know, there's pipelines
everywhere, but who was really
pumping it out? Well, that
John C Dvorak: we need to find
out. Is that some blockbuster?
Yeah. But that to me, I've never
heard that before. That was
stealing Syrian oil. And Syria
has never been known as an oil
producer. But they're in that
same region. They probably have
oil here and there.
Adam Curry: They're in the
region. They're
John C Dvorak: in the region.
Soaking with oil soaked, it's
Adam Curry: northeast Syria. I
think it's where the oil is.
Hasakah it's northeast,
John C Dvorak: was it anywhere
near a port? Well, it was
pumping it right to the port and
shipping it out and tankers.
Adam Curry: This comes back to
the Kurds probably it's probably
very cheap. To get it there.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's gotta
be dirt cheap,
Adam Curry: sure. Conoco.
Candoco. Kyoko gonna go Yeah,
who owns Conoco? Who is that?
John C Dvorak: It's an offshoot
of Standard Oil of New York now.
There
Adam Curry: you go. Oh, make
sense. Sustained Isabel? It's
John C Dvorak: a spinoff from
years ago. Come on.
Adam Curry: Now. Is this all
because I mean, so the grand
game is you? You try to hamper
Russia's oil, which to some
degree, of course did work, even
though no, no. But for some
stuff. It didn't help. But
John C Dvorak: what I'll tell
you what fascinates me is that
they've managed to keep the cost
of oil over $70 A barrel by
creating what seems to be a
shortage, while pumping more
than ever before the price of
oil right now to the American
public to the consumer,
especially the gasoline price
should be back to the preach the
Trump era. And it shouldn't be
$75 a barrel or whatever it is,
is in the 70s and goes through
floats between 72 and 80 to 90
Isn't it just mark just toning
down to the 50?
Adam Curry: Isn't it just phony
markets and markets are also
based on sentiment and new
stories and absolutely
John C Dvorak: So they give you
the impression that the you know
and we're cutting down are no
more fossil fuels and the whole
bull crap that they're promoting
is doing nothing but benefiting
the big oil companies again I
would tell people to take a look
at this chart first Exxon Mobil
from the day today if you were
to put your money into Exxon
Mobil right at the day you got
elected I think you would have
tripled your money by now. But
so this is so scam ish. It's
it's embarrassing. Same for
meta. Meta, let's go with Mata
Yeah, we actually that
quadrupled, quadrupled,
Adam Curry: quadrupled went from
100, under 100 to 400. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: went to button
from 96 to 400 pretty quickly.
So let's go to clip six. And
Unknown: I should also add that
the United States after the
assassination of the Iraqi
commander, Abu Mahdi, Al
muhandis, alongside general
Qasem Soleimani. At the Iraqi
International Airport for over
four years ago, the Iraqi
parliament demanded that the
United States leave and they
never did. They said they'd
leave. But the United States has
one strong card to play with.
And that is that all of the
Iraqi oil that is sold, the
money goes through account in
the United States. And whenever
the Iraqi government goes too
far, the Americans start
withholding Iraqi funds and
creating a crisis in Iraq. So
the Americans are like The
Godfather. They stand back they
pretend they're the good guys.
Yeah, but just Gaza where they
are part of the this genocide.
Here, they played the same role.
Remember the United States in
Iraq, they help Saddam Hussein.
The West gave Saddam Hussein
chemical weapons the US fought
alongside Saddam Hussein against
Iran, in 1988, striking Iranian
ships. And then it turned
against Iraq. Later on, it
invaded Iraq, who created this
mess? It was the United States.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we don't even
talk about Libya and Qaddafi. We
really do. Yeah, we did a number
on him.
Unknown: For sure. Yeah. Well,
Adam Curry: well, so I'll follow
that up. I have a Lester Holt
interview short here too short
clips, with the ambassador to
the UN Iran's ambassador to the
UN. Let's see if we can get some
clarification on the big theater
Unknown: from him. I spoke to
Ambassador Amira, siete era
Vani, just days after three US
soldiers died in a drone attack.
And with ongoing strikes on
commercial ships in the Red Sea,
the US blaming Iranian backed
militias, much of the
conversation centers on the
level of control or influence
that you and the Iranian
government has over these groups
to who these and other groups,
if you pick up the phone, can
you end the attacks?
No, when I say that, it is not
the same case, the relation
between Iran and the resistance
group in this region may be
compared with the NATO Treaty.
So you call this like a defense
pact? Yeah, difference
pack between the resistance
group and on. They have their
own decision. They have their
own choices. It is not the data
to inform call to the horses,
who the
attacks that we've seen on
commercial shipping
sophisticated weapons. Is Iran
supplying those weapons? Not at
all. Would Iran prefer that the
Houthi attacks against
commercial shipping, threatening
us naval vessels? Do you wish
those would stop? Are they
helpful?
You know, we encourage all of
them. You're encouraging them to
stop, we encourage them to stop.
We expect that the other side
also should encourage the
Israeli to stop. Stop.
Adam Curry: We got to stop it.
Stop it. Stop it out. You know,
I always have to think of Lexus
wife for you. Bob says everyone
in Iran everyone knows America
and Iran and working together.
Everybody knows it. Over there.
Unknown: On Friday, the US began
what's expected to be a wave of
attacks in response to the
deaths of those American
soldiers if there was an
American attack on Iran or
Iranian interests. What do you
foresee the reaction would be?
Oh, we
Adam Curry: break out the
John C Dvorak: party has second
he's doing the interview still
right. Yeah.
So they cut away just like what
is this the Family Guy Show?
Yeah. So they cut away to some
net papi explosions? Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Yes. Please. We
attacked you. What would your
reaction be? A one of joy? Of
course. You know that?
Unknown: Absolutely. You know,
we have their own reaction. We
said clearly that if they attack
in lung soil or Ilan benefit, or
Iran, individuals all around the
world. We have their own
reaction and we will defend.
Absolutely. And
I asked about news, Hamas has
responded to an offer for a
hostage deal.
There's been a response from the
opposition. But yes, I'm sorry,
from Hamas. But it seems to be a
little over the top. We're not
sure where it is.
How do you view the fact that a
deal may come about since
I think that if the other side
accepts the condition of Hamas,
the ceasefire is possible.
lasting one lasting one?
Adam Curry: Plate theater
theater and by the way, they
don't care who dies. They don't
care who dies on the streets of
America. Don't cry care who dies
in Gaza? No one cares. We are
dispensable human resources.
John C Dvorak: bestest, a
hostage, I mean, the hostages
they say 30% of them must be
dead by now. Already know,
they'd said that says at least
30 of the 150 are already dead.
Yeah. The 150 left that they
haven't passed on passed back.
And if they don't think they
want to know I don't think this
they're ever gonna bring this to
a conclusion because they don't
want to find out. They're all
dead. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Also, the minute
that happens, then Bibi
Netanyahu gets kicked out. He'll
be gone. Everybody hates him. So
that they need that ongoing,
ongoing conflict. Genocide.
John C Dvorak: Well, it has to
go on for a while. So there's,
I'm
Adam Curry: gonna move to
something else a little less
depressing. There was this
headline, which kind of reminded
me of the Swift top Biden camp
reportedly fears photos from
Special Counsel classified
documents probe could devastate
reelection bid. I immediately
thought Ha, there it is. There's
your API fake photo swift up Oh,
Special Counsel for the app
being set up just
John C Dvorak: fake fake photos.
There's going to be a real photo
they're going to say is fake
Yes. Or yeah, the fake photo
they're going to say it's fake
they're going to say it's fake
whatever it
Adam Curry: doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter. Either way is
good. Special Counsel Robert
Herr could release report in
Biden classified docs case as
soon as this week but what would
be so embarrassing just take
them just stuffed thrown about
or? I mean Haven't we already
seen it in his garage? Wasn't
that embarrassing enough?
John C Dvorak: No, it's got to
be some mouse gotta be somewhere
I did to be good. It has to be
sexual.
Adam Curry: Yeah, like taking
showers with his daughter
John C Dvorak: well, they're not
gonna have any photos is that
but I don't know what it could
be. We'll find out soon enough
because you know what's gonna
come out if they although you
remember this this isn't always
interested me. You remember the
Abu Ghraib scandal with Oh yeah.
Oh, yeah. Hello, dominatrix girl
with a whip and she's beaten
guys the naked in our pile and
all these wires hooked up to
him. The wires hooked up in
there with a black hood and all
the rest of it. Yeah. And they
made the comment and I think it
was used to Schumer or somebody
in Congress as well you know
people are going to have to get
ready because that's not even
the worst of it. The worst is to
come and we never saw any of
that no
Adam Curry: never saw it
John C Dvorak: so you have to
wonder in fact right now that
the latest isn't I haven't don't
have any anti me clips about it
but the concept that I'll have
it for the next show. Jeremy who
scan escapee whatever his name
is. Is it Scahill? Yeah, it's on
Democracy Now claims that
they've done the research and
shows that the entire situation
in Gaza versus Iraq is all
bogus, and he's got all kinds of
documentation for it. And I have
commentary but I have to, I have
to for this too long on one of
these long lab lab lab things I
got to cut it way down.
Adam Curry: Take me a little
shorter than the professor just
one clip shorter six. Well,
John C Dvorak: you know, the
professor, I didn't like it
being this long. I did cut a lot
out because there was more than
just a professor, but I liked
what the professor had to say.
Even though he was a dick. So
Adam Curry: climate change
couple of things happening. One
is that Mark what's his name?
John C Dvorak: Well, I haven't I
have the intro clip before you
start on climate change
Adam Curry: the mark Stein thing
do you have that? No, no, I
John C Dvorak: have an intro
clip just to get you in the
mood. Okay. What is it what is
this the California floods fed?
democracy now report because you
know the democracy now they get
to the bottom of things. Is it
Amy? No, it's not Amy is not
Amina or whatever name is the
the homely woman
Unknown: in California. At least
nine people have died as the
state continues to be pummeled
with record breaking rainfall
from a deadly atmospheric river
storm. Some areas of southern
California recorded over 13
inches of rain in recent days,
triggering mass flooding and
hundreds of mudslides. This is
the actor and filmmaker Deborah
puits, speaking in Studio City
as a river of water flowed down
into
John C Dvorak: the water, these
record highs in the summertime,
and then these incredible storms
that we've never had before that
they're calling, you know, once
every 100 year storms and we've
had two of them since August. So
that's my belief is of course
it's climate change.
Adam Curry: Golf Course is
climate change. How was it
there? John? How are they? How
are the mudflats? How's
everything looking over this
beautiful
John C Dvorak: out right now?
Sunny? clouds in the sky? It's
nice. It's a little cold. 41
Last night, it was really cold.
Yeah. But there's no rain. It
hasn't rained for a couple of or
rain a little bit yesterday, and
it's gonna be
Adam Curry: the other day. On
Sunday. We had a you had when
there was that the once in 100
years storm that you had? Well,
John C Dvorak: we've had we
anytime there's wind from the
south. It's it's a nuisance.
It's such a blow and stuff. But
Adam Curry: that wasn't my
question. Have you had Yeah, to
John C Dvorak: 100 years? Okay,
every 100 years? And
Adam Curry: of course, that's
because of climate change. Now,
there's a court case right now,
I think it's in men.
John C Dvorak: By the way, why
would you automatically go to
that? Why do you have to be
brainwashed to go if say climate
change was never discussed or
even thought of? You would you
automatically think climate
change because it's rained a
little bit in Los Angeles, it
rains when it rains in LA and
fills up that dead culvert
called Los Angeles River, which
is a cement thing. They build
just for overflow, and it's
filled. I haven't as a kid, I
remember getting filled and it
gets filled every decade. Well,
Adam Curry: yes, the answer is
yes. There's a trillions of
dollars have been spent for the
past 40 years on psychologically
telling people manipulating
people into believing that
climate changes is killing us. I
heard guy I know pretty well.
Just the other day he's doing
it. He lives in Australia says,
Oh, it's 85 degrees here. Well,
it's climate change. You know,
and we're burning up again and
Australia's climate change.
Yeah, and it's just being used.
We used to say, well, it's
Indian Summer, well, it's hot,
or whatever we'd say it's hot.
It's hot. I remember in the 70s
going back to, to visit from
from Holland and we were in I'm
going to say maybe we're in New
England, and hanging out and you
know, the tar was melting on the
street. And I remember was hot.
I remember cooking an egg in
Vegas for a TV show in 1990. It
was hot. You know, it's not any
hotter. Anyway.
John C Dvorak: Yes. Hot every
year.
Adam Curry: So Mark Stein
remember him? Mark Stein? Mark
Stein?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he used to
be good for Mark Levin but many
marks
Adam Curry: used to be on Tucker
and this will
John C Dvorak: be on a lot he
used to be on all the fox and
radio shows all the radio shows
I think even took a brush
Limbaugh seat a couple of times.
Yes.
Adam Curry: So he is in a
lawsuit right now. It's a civil
suit and it's being a defamation
suit by Michael Mann against
marks nine as Mark Stein.
Michael manda director, no
microman the climate change guy
remember the the guy who
manipulated all of the data? Oh,
John C Dvorak: man, the hotline,
the hockey stick guy, the hockey
stick guy.
Adam Curry: So Mark Stein,
probably on a throwaway said,
Well, this is bullcrap. This is
a lie. This has manipulated
data. And this was 12 years ago.
And so you know, he let me see
if I can. What is exactly so
John C Dvorak: it is shut people
up here about 12 years ago.
Adam Curry: He added some
comments to an internet post
written by someone else. His
observations drew oppo here's
the problem I drew a parallel
between Jerry Sandusky. That's
the Penn football coach. The
Fiddler Yeah,
John C Dvorak: the pedophile?
Yes. And man bla he was he was
the he was a trainer guy who
wasn't the coach. Yeah, both
Adam Curry: man and Sandusky
were investigated by Penn
State's administration with
Stein characterized as a cover
up. So that I guess that's where
the problem stems from. But so
now in there in court, and we'll
find out if that hockey stick
chart was bullcrap or not. And
from what I understand, you
know, a lot of the experts that
Stein wants to bring in are not
being allowed by the you know,
because it says our justice
system is great. So while that's
happening There's a pseudo when
in the European Union,
everyone's like, yeah, the
farmers did it we made European
Unknown: Union has dropped a key
part of its 2040 proposal
requiring agricultural emissions
to be cut by 30%. That's a big
deal. The move comes as Spanish
farmers staged protests across
the country, as you see right
there using tractors to block
roads in some areas. They're
joining farmers in Germany,
France and other European
countries who have held similar
protests in recent weeks.
Farmers are angry about rising
costs, high levels of
bureaucracy and competition from
non EU countries.
Adam Curry: So here's what I
understand what happened. The
European Union said, we're going
to drop this, you don't have to
cut 30% and co2. But two days
before they did that, the EU
Commission said tougher climate
targets upping the co2 level
reduction from 55% by 2040 2050.
To 90%. So while everyone
thought they got a deal, they
actually got screwed. Ah, yeah.
And this is not reported it. Oh,
I mean, I got a report but I
have no no news report. So
that's all they did. I said, All
right. We're gonna do we're
gonna I'm gonna screw these guys
in this gonna change this from
55 to an up to 90. Yeah, we'll
give you 30% off. No, it's the
same. So what did they get 40
fives and really got a 5%
difference which who How do you
even count that anyway?
John C Dvorak: Well, the Federal
Reserve will figure this out.
Well,
Adam Curry: eventually, but the
momentum is gone. You know the
momentum? Oh, yeah. We farmers
go farmers, you beat him
farmers. The momentum
John C Dvorak: is never achieved
what the goals that should have
been achieved in the first
place. Americans are totally
unaware that this is going on.
Adam Curry: So because you don't
see any of it. You don't want
our farmers getting all up in in
everybody's grill if our farmers
really got mad. I mean, that
would paralyze everything. Yeah,
I don't think we're going to I
don't think that's going to
happen. Okay, I have two farmers
stories, which I think are
important. The first one is,
this is this is it's kind of a
two in one story about
depression, and then about your
immunity. And they both somehow
can be measured in your blood.
Unknown: On the medical watch a
possible blood test to diagnose
depression. A medical reporter
Dina Barrett joins us now with
this novel idea, Deena. Then in
Lourdes Johns Hopkins
researchers say they're making
progress toward a simple test
for psychiatric and neurologic
disorders. They use genetic
material from human blood, along
with lab grown brain cells. They
say in the blood, they could see
disease associated changes in
the brain linked to postpartum
depression and other disorders.
Scientists say the footprints of
brain cell derived changes
circulate outside the brain with
a blood draw doctor say they can
detect changes in gene activity
inside the brain that indicate
mental and physical diseases.
Adam Curry: So first of all,
they talk about a lab grown
brain which is just kind of
glossed over what are we
drinking there, John?
John C Dvorak: Today's drink is
origin. Refreshing, sparkling
American spring water. Oh,
Adam Curry: is it just spring
water? There's nothing else in
it and it comes in a candidate.
John C Dvorak: It didn't add any
electrolytes. Is it
Adam Curry: carbonated? Because
when I heard this, it is
John C Dvorak: sparkling.
Sparkling.
Adam Curry: So I this kind of
accentuates what I think is
bullcrap. Which is that
depression is your brain
chemistry. Oh, no, it's nothing
you can do. It's not how your
thinking was not the thoughts.
No, it's your brain chemistry.
And now they can lead you to
being brainwashed. Now they can
measure that in the blood
somehow. So that'll be even
easier. Oh, Doc, I feel kind of
depressed. Let me just prick
your finger up. Yep, yep, yep,
yep, yep, yep, good to go.
Here's the medication. And then
when you're depressed, well,
that's really bad for your
immunity.
Unknown: We've long known stress
can hamper immunity. And now
doctors have figured out why
Mount Sinai researchers
discovered stress increases an
enzyme in the blood which
travels to the brain, altering
the function of neurons. They
have heard neurons lead to
behavioral changes and reduced
immune function. Study authors
say knowing the mind body
mechanism. They hope to target
the protein to treat stress
related mental health as well as
immune and nervous system
diseases. And they believe
testing for the protein could
help them identify patients in
need of treatment. You
John C Dvorak: see a lot of
expensive testing? Yes, by the
way is so so depression equals
stress. I'd ever heard that
before. Yes.
Adam Curry: And that equals low
immunity, which is why the shots
didn't work. Don't you get it?
Oh, get it asked because I get
stressed you're stressed. That's
why the shots don't work your
immunity depletes. So you should
probably have another booster.
John C Dvorak: Booster covalent.
Now, now,
Adam Curry: let's look at mRNA.
Because there's a lot of
exciting news about mRNA. We
have Oh, my goodness, cancer
vaccines being trialed a dawn of
a new age of treatments, it's
all mRNA. And Bill Gates, the
gift who keeps on giving, he
really really let it all hang
out in this one minute clip, as
he admits, admits what we've all
been thinking and talking about
or been told was conspiracy
theory about the lipo nano nano
particles. You know, they were
the lipid nanoparticles, self
assembling and doing stuff too.
You know, that's just conspiracy
theory, listen to how jacked he
is about mRNA.
Unknown: Making the mRNA is
really easy and really cheap.
Adam Curry: Really, really not
just easy, it's easy and cheap.
Making
Unknown: the mRNA is really easy
and really cheap. And that's the
magic of this thing. But there's
no doubt in the next five years,
we can, you know, we just need
to mess around. There's a lot of
lipid now,
Adam Curry: you would just mess
around a little bit with it, you
would just put this we've
already been trying it for the
past few years and the COVID
chessell Misurata. We
Unknown: can, you know, we just
seem to mess around. There's a
lot of lipid nanoparticles, and
some are very self assembling.
There's no one here. Whoa.
Adam Curry: So first, he laughs
hills. There's a lot of lipid
nanoparticles. I mean, what
there's just in your desk
drawer, or does he mean in
people already, and they're self
assembling already, you
Unknown: know, we just seem to
mess around. There's a lot of
lipid nanoparticles. And some
are very self assembling.
There's no inherent reason it's
not thermal stable. It's not
cheap, and it's not scalable.
And so as over the five years,
we fix that part of it mature
it, which is very typical. We'll
be able to build factories
worldwide, that make $2 vaccines
with even less lead time than
we've had to have here during
this pandemic. And we'll use
those as you suggest. For every
disease that we don't have
vaccines, we will try mRNA. In
fact, for HIV, we have multiple
ways. One that's more of a B
cell approach one that's more of
a T cell approach. You know,
from malaria, we have multiple
ideas for TB, we have multiple
ideas. And so to fill in the
missing vaccines, we will we'll
make a lot of our bets of the
Gates Foundation, and others who
care about global health. We'll
be mRNA focused Yay.
Adam Curry: I recommend probably
not taking it. Whatever he comes
up with. And someone reminded me
of a bill that has been in
Congress or don't it's not come
to the floor it's probably in
committees. Senate Bill 596
Which re explains a lot of the a
lot of the push of the GLP one
the semaglutide drugs will go V
ozempic etc. It is called the
treat and reduce reduce obesity
act and it spells out that they
want these drugs to be on
Medicare
John C Dvorak: yeah because it's
it's easy money.
Adam Curry: It's very easy money
and Novo Nordisk just bought the
manufacturing company that makes
the injectables Yeah. Which is
now I heard on DHL unplugged
that's one of the only companies
that does that.
John C Dvorak: I think that's
what we discovered $16
Adam Curry: billion acquisition
no slouch
John C Dvorak: acquisition now
it's
Adam Curry: a great acquisition.
But
John C Dvorak: I have a I don't
know what this is. It's probably
anymore I've COVID clips, no
Adam Curry: more clips. I'm just
looking if I had any other any
other.
John C Dvorak: I have two weird
offbeat clips that we can
interrupt things with. Okay. I
want to Rona is out false claim
clip.
Adam Curry: Right the second
Rona is out false claim clip is
this Amy?
John C Dvorak: No Amy, I do not
have any today,
Unknown: okay in other political
news As the chair of the
Republican National Committee,
Ronna McDaniel, has reportedly
agreed to resign after coming
under intense pressure from
Donald Trump. McDaniel plans to
step down after the South
Carolina primary. Trump is
reportedly pushing from Michael
Watley, the chair of the North
Carolina Republican Party to
become the new head of the RNC.
What Lee is a prominent election
denier who endorsed Trump's
false claims about the 2020
election being stolen?
Adam Curry: Hold on a sec. Okay,
hold on. I have a question.
John C Dvorak: I get a question.
Okay.
Adam Curry: If Trump can just
make everybody vote no,
including Chuck Schumer, I mean,
why why does he have to go
through a hole weird Kenny just
call up and say Rona, you're
out. New lady you're in I mean,
doesn't have a
John C Dvorak: bunch of people
that have to vote her in or they
already he already tried to get
her out like a year ago, and he
couldn't do it. voted her in it
was powerful. Now he's where he
is powerful enough to influence
a couple of people. But I want
to the reason I play this clip
is because I want to reiterate
the bad journalism. And it's
done by all the networks as done
by Amy's group and everyone else
to use the term false claim.
Adam Curry: Yes,
John C Dvorak: it's either a
claim, or it's not a claim. It's
not. You can't have a false
claim. You just like claim, you
claim that the moonlit landing
never happened. That's your
claim. That's what you're you
use based on a belief of yours.
It's not a false claim.
Adam Curry: It's a claim
science.
John C Dvorak: What is a false
claim that word makes the or
that phrase makes zero sense.
And it's only used to to target
the individual being, in this
case, Trump to make him look
like he's a liar because they
like to promote the idea that
he's a liar. Well, nobody even
cares about about Biden's you
know, talking about a liar. In
fact, let's play Biden talking
to Mitterrand.
Unknown: Last night, Joe Biden
did his first campaign rally of
the 2024 election in Las Vegas,
Nevada. And during his speech,
he claimed to have recently met
with a French president who died
Hold
Adam Curry: on a second, proper
use of the word. Indeed, proper
use of the word so you said they
all do it. In fact, your claim
was false. It was my claim. You
claim that all journalists do
this.
John C Dvorak: No, I'm talking
about you didn't say false
claim. No, I
Adam Curry: know. That's what
I'm say. You said all
journalists use this so he's a
John C Dvorak: journalist. He's
a tick tock tick tock are much
Unknown: better than journalism
in Las Vegas, Nevada. And during
his speech he claimed to have
recently met with a French
president who died over three
decades ago. Yeah, this guy is
losing it.
Right right after I was elected,
I went to what they call a g7
meeting all the NATO favors I
was in South England and I sat
down and I said America's back
and later on from Germany I mean
from France
John C Dvorak: wait how long you
back this is great sadness of
that is that this actually kind
of a funny line and he managed
to deliver it well. But
Mitterrand Miran was
Adam Curry: dead. Well, first he
said made around was from
Germany, then he was French
makes it even. Yeah, but you
know what they say? Dead people
start to see dead people are
almost dead people. When you're
about to die, you see dead
people. Maybe he's on the verge.
Now maybe he's seeing dead
people
John C Dvorak: might be possible
and shaking his head on the
podium with people that aren't
there.
Adam Curry: Okay, here's one for
you because this is something
that you are an expert on you do
this test yourself from time to
time a quality. This is not just
a quality but a quantity test
and people are getting pissed
off.
Unknown: McDonald's is
acknowledging it's time to put
affordability back on the menu
and add more options to its
dollar menu. Its stock took a
hit this week after the fast
food giant reported a recent
drop in visits by its key
customers who make $45,000 a
year or less. And a lot of
people have taken to social
media to complain about it.
Joining us now is Vanessa your
cabbage. So Vanessa McDonald
says with inflation cooling down
to the supermarket, eating at
home is becoming the more
affordable choice for many here
always has been put go to
McDonald's because it's fast.
It's reliable and it's
affordable and tasty. And for
many Americans right now they're
saying that's just not the case.
And that is because to buy
groceries and eat at home.
Prices are only up 1.3% Compare
that to going out to dinner 5.2%
below Get McDonald's prices.
They have said that they've had
to raise prices by 10%.
Adam Curry: This is great. This
is fantastic. They're crazy.
It's I mean, the quality is just
crap. It's getting worse.
Really? When's the last time you
went? Don't you always go to try
and eat a burger? I
John C Dvorak: go orderly. I've
got a I've got a visit coming.
I'm not sure when I'm gonna go.
But when I do, I'll be reporting
in.
Adam Curry: But the hashbrown.
One hashbrowns. Were even tried
$3 $3
John C Dvorak: You know what
your potato costs are,
Adam Curry: you can get three
pounds for three more.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you haven't
hashbrowns for the rest of your
life. But this but
Adam Curry: you know, these are
trends, you know. So the trend
is going to be more eating at
home. This, this is a cleansing
and a shaking.
John C Dvorak: Bunch of I didn't
get again, I didn't get clips on
this, but I didn't think about
it. There was a bunch of reports
recently about I think there's
mostly played on Fox on the fact
that the Gen Z in particular,
don't go to bars. They drink at
home, and they're not gonna go
to bars because it's too
expensive. By the way, as
opposed to Gen Xers. We used to
do a kind of a show on me the
old that was a Gen X show, I'd
have all these Gen X and we
talked about stuff including
their drinking habits and they
were all a bunch of alcoholics.
Gen X are a bunch of drunks with
the Gen Z's or if you're if
they're drunk show is going to
know it because they stay at
home. You
Adam Curry: can't you if you go
out. I don't know when the last
time you went
John C Dvorak: out and had to
drive went out to the mallard
club for the meetup was
Adam Curry: a glass of wine
these days. If you just want a
glass of wine and Tina and I
don't drink much, please have a
glass of wine. 30 bucks for two
glasses of wine. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Now that you got
ripped off? Well, you must be
going to your places you're
going to or too expensive. Well,
or is that Texas wine. They
always overcharge for that
stuff.
Adam Curry: We do. There's this
there's this place that reopened
called Freedland, which is a
German, like brought house.
Schnitzel house. Yeah. And
that's fantastic. They give you
an eight all
John C Dvorak: German German
town like Fredericksburg. I hope
they have something like Oh
yeah,
Adam Curry: it's really good.
And it's really that's
affordable. They do have these
places, and it's better
ingredients. The wine, you just
say you got a Cabernet, it's got
some fancy name on the menu. I
don't know where it's from. They
bring it to you in a big glass.
It's really heavy. You know,
it's like the kind that if it
falls over, it'll never break.
Even though it has a stamp. And
German. Yeah, it's $9. You know,
that's, that's more reasonable
as eight ounce pour. That's more
reasonable for a restaurant
wine. But yeah, yeah, I'd say
everything is everything is
unaffordable. The Ubers are
unaffordable. I mean, it's what
they call that inflation. Yes,
that's what it is. Now, my last
clip before we take a break, we
talked during the pandemic, and
I'm pretty sure we put it in the
Red Book. I haven't been able to
find the clip yet. I think we
put it in the Red Book that
people would probably never want
to go back to work in office
buildings. You may have in watch
that people would not want to go
back to work at the office that
John C Dvorak: they want study
office. Yeah, they rather work
from home. Yeah, well, I
Adam Curry: think you even said
no, because I look at all this
technology they're building and
and zoom exploded and slack
exploded and Microsoft teams got
used for everything. And now
they just can't get them back.
And commercial real estate.
That's the big talk here, then,
but by the
John C Dvorak: way, let's stop
and make mention here. What if
you've worked from home? I mean,
I've been at the home office guy
forever. But if you work from
home and you enjoy it and you
think you're productive and
you're doing it during the
pandemic, and you're
everything's going fine and
you're getting your work done
and everything why would you
want to go back to the office
and why would they want you back
in the office when you're doing
just fine? I think there's I
think there's a in the brains of
the home of the people that work
at home and like working at home
they don't understand why they
should go back to the office
when they know they're not as
productive. They're
Adam Curry: agreed. But it's a
real problem because we do not
have solutions for the
commercial real estate.
John C Dvorak: Course Nope.
Adam Curry: By the by the way. I
think my my prediction of Apple
vision Pro is coming true. This
is exactly not this version will
take another version. This is
exactly what people are living
in their little home pods. You
know your little five by five
house. You know with your bed in
the living room. This is called
a tiny home. Yeah, tiny home.
This is what everybody's going
to love. And just have your big
makes the house look bigger. You
have your big monster screen
mirrors
John C Dvorak: on the walls and
we put one of those glasses on
boom, Pierre the mansion. People
think
Adam Curry: this is a dumb idea.
This is dumb product. I think
it's a big winner. It'll be the
next version. That'll be the big
winner. It's a winner. It's a
winner. I don't like it. No, it
looks horrible. But I think it's
going to glass all over it then
better than Google Glass because
it is it spatial computing. This
not V VR AR Mr. Mix gonna
John C Dvorak: ruin your brain?
Adam Curry: It's Yes. Well, how
much more can we ruin? It's
great. Now this, this is exactly
what we need. This is the future
of the work from home worker,
and everyone will be doing it.
But the commercial real estate,
I don't I have no ideas for it.
Other than putting the new
comers in there, which is
probably the way to go. And our
Secretary of the Treasury is
kind of concerned.
Unknown: Yes, I do have a
concern about commercial real
estate. We discussed it in the F
sock annual report, and F sock
has been quite focused on it.
The banking supervisors have
also been focused on commercial
real estate and are working
closely with the banks they
supervise, to discuss ways to
manage and work with borrowers
who have problems. There, in
some cases, working to make sure
that loan loss reserves are
built up to cover losses that
dividend policies are
appropriate that liquidity is
adequate. So the higher interest
rate environment, and in some
cases, particularly the case of
office building, shifts in work
patterns due to the pandemic
coupled with many commercial
real estate loans coming due and
needing to be financed,
refinanced in a context where
vacancy rates in some cities are
quite high, is going to put a
lot of stress on the owners of
these properties. And so lately,
the banking agencies are very
focused in helping the banks
manage, manage through these
situations. So you're concerned
but not distressed? Yes, I mean,
yes, I'm concerned. I believe
it's manageable, although there
may be some institutions that
are quite stressed by this
Adam Curry: problem. Yeah, like
those regional banks. That
doesn't seem to be going too
well again, do you think they
can keep it together until the
until the collapse when Trump is
in
John C Dvorak: as is our thesis?
Oh, yeah, that shouldn't be a
problem. How do they
Adam Curry: how do you do it
with the interest rates aren't
being cut so the refinance is
all coming up?
John C Dvorak: You do this
there's tricks of accounting
trickery for the banks I don't
know about New York's community
is the big one that's it looks
like it's gonna fail but yeah,
yeah. But it can sneak through
New York communities that one
day they gave Signature Bank to
and it was a very interesting
isn't that bad first days here
take this take that take this
and now live with it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, now they can't
do they just make one bank take
all the bad stuff and then blow
that one?
John C Dvorak: That's a pretty
good trick like that's one trick
but they're gonna affect the
other thing was there is an
issue with the you look at these
empty buildings, they're all
over them and they were building
and right through COVID You
know, the skyline you could tell
you were putting up bigger and
bigger buildings in New York is
the one that you know if you
remember, we discussed this that
the storefronts are all this was
before COVID, the storefronts
and they were buttoning
everything up in New York and it
was kind of half dead because
they were holding out the
landlord's you're holding out
for more money
Adam Curry: for the flip for the
flip.
John C Dvorak: And they never it
never happened because COVID
showed up and the next thing you
know these guys are stuck
holding the bag of, you know,
useless real estate. High end
real estate. Warren Buffett 10
years ago. I think he got out of
most of it and told everyone to
get into rentals.
Adam Curry: Well, so what's
happening here on Main Street is
rents went from for typical
store from $10,000 a month to
$30,000 a month. Frederick's
yeah stores are closing left.
Why? Because the the owners of
these properties who don't live
here who just invested they,
they probably have to get more
money. to pay off the note
that's what I'm thinking it's
commercial real estate's the
same issue. And the stores is
like, nope. Except for the this
is one store. I think that just
money laundering it's like some
Lebanese in there or something.
I don't know what they're doing.
I never see anyone in the store.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, when I see
a store that's always empty is
big and they realize a lot of
money there as money locked in,
there's gotta be there was a
store. I can't remember this was
years ago, but I remember that
place and Horowitz and I talked
about it and then that turned
out to be one in San Francisco
that I went by and it was
exactly like what you're
describing nobody a big store.
Nobody's in the place at all.
And and it was has to be some
sort of money laundering
operation for the drug business.
Adam Curry: But we're seeing the
same with you know, we have 25%
of our housing here is Airbnb or
used to be b&b. Let's just call
Airbnb. And people are having to
sell those now because of the
the taxes. If you want to come
to Fredericksburg, stay in an
Airbnb. You're it's you have to
take two nights, you can't just
have one night, you have to take
two nights and before I know
it's like two grand. Like no, go
to Mexico go to Mexico. Why
would you come here? Yeah, this
but I think this problem is
everywhere right now.
John C Dvorak: I think so too. I
know. It's a case in Port
Angeles where Mimi is in the
planning commission, because
they're trying to kill all the
Airbnbs up there, even though
they're run by people just on a
fixed income. Yeah, they there's
no real reason for that. Oh, no,
this is no good. Can't have this
in our bustling town, which is,
you know, half dead anyway.
Adam Curry: All right. 111
upbeat clip. Just before we take
this break, so we can just
refresh our minds for a second
get back to the
Unknown: Opticon is just as
Taylor Swift obsessed as the
United States. But it's not just
about the fandom. It's also
about the economic revenue.
Experts tell us that Taylor
Swift Four Day concert will
generate more than 230 million
US dollars for Japan. Now the
burning question that I'm sure
is on both of your mind. In my
mind, will Taylor Swift make it
back in time by Superbowl Sunday
to kiss her boyfriend Travis
Kelce. Now I'm no betting woman
but I'm going to say with quite
a bit of confidence that she
will make it back in time.
It does not take time travel,
just a private jet, which
she does own. And you know, she
kind of has to make it back for
that Super Bowl, because why
else would we watch it? Am I
right? Well, you're definitely
right. That is the burning
question Phil has been bothering
me about since three o'clock
this morning. Will Taylor Swift
be able to kiss Travis Kelce
think about all he thinks about
and like go thank you very much.
Adam Curry: All right. Here's my
prediction. I might as well give
it now we can do it with you
John
John C Dvorak: by the football
game. We have another show
before the football Yeah, but I
just
Adam Curry: want to put it out
there so I can get everything
all everybody all jacked up.
This is we are at peak Swift. I
agree could not be much higher.
John C Dvorak: She got her
fourth by the way. She got her
fourth Grammy for Best Album of
the art Album of the Year
topping and the Beatles Well, no
no Stevie Wonder remember, they
went a period of time with one
wonder was winning and winning
and winning one
Adam Curry: Stevie Wonder the
musical genius Stevie Wonder.
Now I know. I know the ground
and
John C Dvorak: say that you can
even hum a Taylor Swift song
Stevie Wonder had so many hits.
Yeah. And the albums were
killer. And now she's okay.
Well. She was waltzes into the
Grammys during the show.
Adam Curry: Their fan with her
with her. entourage. Yes,
entourage. Yes.
John C Dvorak: It was like what
how did they allow this? Well,
Adam Curry: it's all a show. Did
you see Olivia Rodrigo? That was
the performance I was waiting
for. Yeah, that's
John C Dvorak: the satanists.
Rabia, the poor satanist red
Adam Curry: dress, rubbing blood
over her face in her chest.
Beautiful. Well done, everybody.
Well done. Well done. Perfect.
I'm glad to see that they're
still full on dervish, dervish
SNESs at the Grammys just
beautiful
John C Dvorak: as it was pretty
well then of course the joke of
the Grammys was Big Mike who
came out and praise God got
arrested this in a group as as
the way it was put his praising
God in a group of Satanists.
Yeah. Already got arrested
immediately thereafter.
Adam Curry: Whoa, that's right.
touch the third rail at the
Grammys. You can't do that Big
Mike. We all know this. Poor Big
Mike. Yes. So we're at peak
Taylor peak swift She has not
adhered to the rule. When you
seek out publicity for your own
benefit whether you're paid for
it or not. It boomerangs and
yeah, always, always and so the
one I'm when I'm feeling is
Kelsey is it Kelsey? Kelsey do
we say Kelsey thing is Kelsey
Kelsey. Some people say Kelsey,
Travis,
John C Dvorak: Kelsey do
whatever your nails they say the
family pronounces a Kelsey, the,
the announcers who are
professionals pronounce it,
Kelsey. It's Kelsey.
Adam Curry: We'll keep it at
Kelsey. Kelsey will fumble the
ball. Yeah, it'll be picked up
by the 40 Niners for the first
time I live, I'm gonna say Go 40
Niners they will run it all the
way for a winning touchdown. And
Taylor will get all the blame.
But they will hype Taylor and
Kelsey by cutting to cutting to
the aviation map show. Oh, here
she is. She's over the Atlantic
she's on her way.
John C Dvorak: Like like Santa
Claus. Yeah, yes. Exactly.
Adam Curry: NORAD will be will
be reporting in if if Taylor
Swift is on her way. And then
they'll cut away to her she
could just like what the Grammy
she comes in late. You know,
probably during the halftime
show the cutaway who's doing the
halftime show, by the way do we
John C Dvorak: know? Yeah, I
know. But I can't think of it.
And then
Adam Curry: and and then and she
will be blamed for the loss. And
and then she goes as a
distraction. Yes, you'll have to
sit down for a little while.
She'll be okay. But this mean
what more could she achieve
other than getting on Elon
Musk's rocket and going to Mars
I mean, there's not much more
she could achieve. There is no
she
John C Dvorak: could achieve
making making a really good song
that was achieved.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage in the morning to the
man who put the sea in citizen
Trump say hello to my friend on
the other end one only Mr. John
Cena
John C Dvorak: money UNISTREAM
Karina Myrna ships at sea the
boots on the ground the feet in
the air. The soldiers in the
water and the Dames and the
Knights out there in the
morning.
Adam Curry: Oh my 1742 Bad troll
edge.
John C Dvorak: Thursday, isn't
it? Yes. Well, the numbers 1800
We're looking for. It's not bad
at all.
Adam Curry: Well, what's low
you're supposed to say is low.
John C Dvorak: It's only low 50.
Adam Curry: Okay, all right.
Well, I felt it was a little
low. I just I saw the 17 number
and like the slow.
John C Dvorak: last Sunday's
number was the low one hours low
low. Although
Adam Curry: a lot of like a lot
of people like last Sunday show
John C Dvorak: these things.
They may have liked it but they
weren't listening live
necessarily. Oh, that's
Adam Curry: why that's why well,
trolls are here. Trolls are in
attendance. It's just lowly that
lowly trolls. Maybe they're just
slow. You're all low, low and
slow. Most
John C Dvorak: of the countries
got bad weather. So they should
catch the trolls but they're
digging snow. Maybe they're
doing things that are more
important than listening to the
show live there. They can listen
to the show that when they feel
like they're Yes, yes. They feel
like that's what podcasting is
all about. Good
Adam Curry: point. We love our
trolls though, because they keep
us on our toes. They get us
information. They keep me very
awake. Because always scrolling
by out of the my peripheral
vision. They're saying horrible
things, you know. And I was
like, JC D is a national
treasure. You know, is that was
that
John C Dvorak: a horrible thing?
Well, they say that about you
eyes, man or woman.
Adam Curry: But for me, that's
like a Curie, you're full of
crap. I know. It's like, I'm
gonna let you know that you know
what we
John C Dvorak: can prevent that?
Adam Curry: By not looking at,
you know, the trolls,
John C Dvorak: always looking
for the one liners that somebody
else writes. Yes, fine. That's
what the pros that's,
Adam Curry: that's yes. Thank
you. Thank you very much. You
can join the trolls at troll
room.io. It is a live chat room.
You can also get to it with an
IRC client, one of the oldest
technologies on the internet,
which is still very valid, it is
great because you can Internet
Relay Chat, you can sit in the
Internet Relay Chat all day,
there are trolls logged in all
the time. There may be some
people who have died and are
still logged in on the troll
room. I believe that's to be
true. It's actually could be
true. And login from a Unix
machine at work and then forget
about it. And then you just
still run and died suddenly and
you're still there.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it could be
you could be on a Linux you
could be in a virtual a virtual
connection through running
through AWS on a subscription
that doesn't get goes on for a
couple of years. You paid it in
advance, and you'd be in the IRC
dead for years literally. And
Adam Curry: that's a great site.
I got to take a look at some of
the login times for people who
have been logged in the longest.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we better
just have somebody go by their
house.
Adam Curry: You can also get to
this through a number of the
modern podcast apps. Good news.
Guess who's back on all the
apps, including the modern
podcast apps? Joe Rogan, Joe
Rogan? Oh, yeah, he's back. Now
his RSS feed was reactivated.
And now you have no reason to
use Spotify at all? No,
John C Dvorak: there was never a
reason in the first place. Yep.
And
Adam Curry: you'll recall that
we declined to be on Spotify,
we're not going to sign any
rights away, because that's what
you had to do. Yes, you so sign
this piece of paper? Nope, we're
not gonna do that. And I feel
like we resisted it was good.
And now, now everybody doesn't
need to default to Spotify, you
can get color daddy and Joe
Rogan and your no agenda show on
any modern podcast app at modern
podcast apps.com, which also
alert you within 90 seconds of
updating the show. And I'm going
to make sure that Joe gets on
that program as well. People
like that, instead of waiting
around like refreshing, who's up
yet, you'll get notified
immediately. Same happens with
our live shows. When we go live,
you get a notification. Value
for value is how we have
survived. How we've been just
getting by for all these years,
16 years, you've kept us alive,
you've kept us going through
your time, your talent, your
treasure, part of that time and
time and talent is the troll
room, which has been with us for
14 of those 16 years, I think 13
or 14, that's void zero. He's
just kept that alive and going
and people do many things for
us, really is quite phenomenal.
The things that people do for
the show, which is the polar
opposite of what all the big
money went to do is like, oh,
we'll just we can take all this
money, we'll hire people hire
executive producers and
executive executive producers
and then a boss for those
executive producers. And who
will make the programming will
be great. It'll be just great.
We're gonna have hits
everywhere. We don't have to hit
boy, we don't have a hit. We
have proven that being number
one doesn't matter. We can
survive and we survive with you.
And it's also it's your boots on
the ground reports. So many of
them once again. I mean it just
amazing boots on the ground that
people give us give us
information that that edifies us
on the world at General because
everyone's an expert in
something. When you hear us
talking about
John C Dvorak: somebody has your
money experts that listen to
this show. It's amazing.
Adam Curry: I mean, how much the
how many emails did you get
about the B one bomber?
John C Dvorak: I got? Well I
only got two from Super experts
people that are actually in
Adam Curry: the field. Did you
know that thing goes Mach two.
Yeah, no,
John C Dvorak: that's a
fantastic product I didn't
notice I didn't know is called
the bone
Adam Curry: Bone. Bone. Max you
isn't that the speed of the of
the concourt Yeah, that's crazy.
I didn't know it
John C Dvorak: was designed in
1970 I think is the Concorde I
didn't know is it high altitude
It conquers back in the day to
high altitude Mach tooth and,
Adam Curry: and it does not just
carpet bomb. It does surgical
strikes. So So see, this is the
information that is very good
for us. With that also comes
well all kinds of cool things
like the no agenda, Art
Generator. This is what Paul
couture has put together so that
our artists another fabulous
batch of people who deliver us
their talent while they're
listening live to the show. I
mean, that's really what is so
amazing is that they put this
together while they're listening
live. And we really have to
thank Francisco Scaramanga for a
fantastic this was top notch,
top of the line, no agenda art
to the tee, Episode 1631. We
titled that pulling a Johnson
which went well with the GI Joe
artwork. I mean, this of course
was one of the pastor
citizenships that we discussed
on the previous episode come in
as a Chinese national and as
long as you serve in our
military for a couple of years.
You can get it be an American
citizen. And he had it down man.
GI Joe had little rice bowl
there was chopsticks didn't make
it too racist. You know, had
them kind of semi Asian face I
would say yeah,
John C Dvorak: it wasn't just
super slant dyed, racist looking
cartoon which is usually done
but you didn't need to
Adam Curry: know it was
brilliant. I mean really just a
brilliant no it
John C Dvorak: was it had a
touch it was fine touch you put
the 33 on the helmet the
American flag on the helmet
which is way to do it the rice
bowl with the chopsticks is a
piece of in the Ci g h o with
the red star China in the
middle. Very good. Everything in
this piece. Said winner Yeah.
Adam Curry: We looked at in the
wind by Darren O'Neil who always
comes in with something simple
and AI generated But that wasn't
the winner. I thought Taylor
Swift won't even listen to my
podcast was cute little sigh up
on the prairie cute but the
execution was not wasn't there.
Pandora's pouch of problems was
cute but no the Gouda cheese
talk I that was kind of it
wasn't it? We had a goat Do we
have a goat? Yeah a goat
screaming What else do we have?
Oh, the kind of like the texting
Iran it was it just didn't weigh
up against GI Joe but the
texting Iran was like a text
message and it's from the US
military. Yeah. Nothing is off
the table. Don't make us turn
you into sand respond and then
the Iranian flag replies new
phone who dis was cute. It's
funny we didn't understand the
nice tats by pickle surprise.
Although cute. No, no agenda
heart.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, who
Adam Curry: didn't know didn't
quite get that one.
John C Dvorak: That was it.
Pickled surprise also did the
goat Yes. And like to go to
goats nice but isn't wasn't
gonna win
Adam Curry: and commerce your
blogger is he just keeps on
throwing out AI hoping it'll
win. Which law? He said not a
bad idea.
John C Dvorak: He does too many
of the just generalized designs.
Yeah, that. Were never we never
picked that. I mean, I sometimes
for the newsletter, I'll pull
one of those down when I need
something. But it's not going to
be Ashok cover.
Adam Curry: He wanted me. Let me
say that. Right that he wanted
me to promote no agenda gpt.com.
Okay, which so he has put
together all these chat GPT
projects. So you can go and ask
something about no agenda.
today. Good. Well, yeah, that's
the one that said that Ryan
Seacrest had been running. Which
the funny thing was, it had
gotten that from a transcript,
which indeed said Ryan Seacrest,
which was incorrect, which was
ai m is like this is garbage in
garbage out. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it is. It's, it's
not gonna get any better. No,
it's It's the model is model
class gonna start it's gonna
start corrupting. Basic
historical data. Yeah. By
iteration, yeah, corruption by
iteration. Again, no title
that's too long. Have a eruption
by iterations what's going to
happen we're just going to take
over the world with just corrupt
data and information you won't
even know what date it is.
Adam Curry: We need a snap your
phrase then corruption by
iteration. And we'll probably
have to talk to the consulting
arm about that. You're
John C Dvorak: gonna have to
think about I don't know if we
can come up with anything better
than that.
Adam Curry: We'd love to thank
thank you artists. Thank you for
thank you to all the artists who
participate we give you the
honest feedback because that's
what you never get when you do
jobs. Certainly not spec jobs.
No one was just yet some won't
call you back. It's
John C Dvorak: just don't call
Yeah. My art fail. I don't know.
You won't call me back which
people
Adam Curry: on the mastodon say
this shooting on the earth this
man? No, no, no, we're giving
you honest feedback. That's what
we're doing.
John C Dvorak: Are you are you
for amateurs that don't know
what they're talking about. Are
Adam Curry: you even on the
Macedon anymore? I don't see you
posting do you post that I post
all
John C Dvorak: the time? Really?
I'm posting like a maniac.
Adam Curry: I haven't seen
anything from you. You bought
me? I've not blocked you. I
follow you. Follow you follow
you. You're a creator and I
follow you. I want to thank the
people who deliver a treasure to
us. One of our three T's of
value for value. And right off
the bat saving the day and a
Muirhead from rye New York. No
note that I could find 2000 This
is fantastic. Anna Why did you
not send us a note we want to
thank you we want to
John C Dvorak: research I looked
up Anna any every which way. And
I even went back I dug through
the Pay Pal dogs to find her
donation to see if she had an
offbeat email address. And
indeed she did. Oh, so I you.
Yeah, that's how much work I
did. And so I looked it up.
Still nothing.
Adam Curry: She's a baller big
baller soccer play ball baller
baller donation so
John C Dvorak: she will send us
a note when she feels like it
that's the way I Yes,
Adam Curry: I sure hope so.
Anna, thank you very much double
up karma for your lack of
notice. Karma
John C Dvorak: and then
herbivore comes in from
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for
$350.93. less interesting,
right? Yeah. I think there's a
donation missing from these this
list 350 93 Thank you for your
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and value for value. We got
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December so we're doing a V four
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Beginning today the album will
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Adam Curry: I actually came up
with value verse. That's my
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John C Dvorak: be found on the
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our rig this Saturday at
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Adam Curry: no, not one of mine.
That's what all the kids are
saying Yen's
John C Dvorak: at this show or
online. Thanks, 350 93. So
Adam Curry: people have figured
it out. They're looking at value
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the modern podcast apps and
they're using it for their
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Adam Curry: a relationship karma
hope you're looking for one
you've got karma cliffs. Or if
you're in one, we hope it stays
good.
John C Dvorak: IP anonymously.
Oh, is it good gag, South Bend
Indiana. 33333 once yak and goat
karma or good karma, but he sent
a note in
Adam Curry: this was an
interesting it was not just a
note it was it took up the whole
PDF.
John C Dvorak: He has a bunch of
photos. What he did is he
Adam Curry: opened his drawer
drawer. Once you read it, well,
I'm going to read parts of it
because it's four or five pages
long. He opens up his drawer is
a doc I have problems saying
drawer drawer drawer drawer. And
he's close enough shows a
picture and there's three
playing for playing cards, like
you know, cards, all with the
face up with the number up and
it's all threes. And he says oh
my gosh. All threes popped up.
He says four of a kind three,
three, extra heart. And then he
went in and asked chat GPT about
the significance of 333 and
Chachi Beatty said 333 is often
associated with spiritual
growth, protection and Divine
Presence. Interesting
mathematics. Three, three 3.33
Is the decimal representation of
the fraction of 1/3 it's also I
think, an angel number all kinds
of so he said I had to donate
that makes total sense. And I
think he added the fees for us
so the three three 3.33 plus the
fees no, I'm sorry no he didn't
he just came out three three to
three three Yeah, that's a good
note. And if that happens to you
people see the odometer they get
they get a bill they see a check
number they see a hotel room
just when you see those threes
you know it's time to support
the no agenda show and he wants
some yeah karma we got that for
you. No problem. You've
Unknown: got ah
John C Dvorak: karma meanwhile,
sarin Denzel comes in from Port
Townsend Washington for 333 but
there's no note or anything that
I can find and so he gets a
double up karma.
Unknown: You've got karma
Adam Curry: All right. Then we
have one in blue which is always
good news rich, whiskey Bravo
for Echo Hotel golf in Davie,
Florida. 70 threes Quito five
Alpha Charlie Charlie on the VAR
AC. Our first Associate
Executive Producer 256. He says
I'm thrilled to finally become a
knight after being a douche bag
for too long. It's the highlight
of my week when I get to listen
to an entire show who knew
retirement would be so busy.
Noting that this show is this
show number is a combination of
16 two to the fourth 32 to the
fifth, this donation 2562 to the
eights My birthday is for two to
the second to the first and one
two to the oath, so please
Knight me as sir powers of two
protecting Davie, Florida at the
roundtable I'd like frozen
Tito's vodka and Nathan's hot
dogs with fresh bonds. Is there
any other kind of been? No
jingles only douchebag karma
we're gonna do.
Unknown: D Do you get karma?
You've got karma
John C Dvorak: so there's a note
as one that got lost in the
shuffle and I'm pretty sure it
came in on time and I'm going to
just read it from the email.
Okay. Yeah, this is from we did
we did or did well hold on a
second. Sorry. I'm holding,
stopping the show. Oh, do
Adam Curry: we have to really
stop the show? Nevermind.
John C Dvorak: It's something
else. I keep looking. Let me go.
Which you just read ritualist go
to Ethan ma us moms in
Birmingham, Alabama. To to to
rove ducks. Road ducks on my
33rd birthday in gratitude for
this fantastic podcast. This us?
Yes. In the morning to both of
you, gentlemen. And please do
you do Shmi
Unknown: you've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: thanks for
helping make sense. It's just
amazing me how many people are
in the 33rd birthday. I didn't
listen to the show. And
Adam Curry: when they say
grouping around when they
started listening, they were 16
John C Dvorak: Thanks for
helping me make sense of all the
madness biscuit for my birthday.
Adam Curry: Let me grab one I
have them fresh from the oven.
Here it is. They
Unknown: always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.
Adam Curry: So that's it? Is the
doc ze doc Doc Brown the third
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deconstruction, you guys provide
his fantastic thought wonder if
the thought wonder if these
millions brought in are being
digitized they will be a
component to new digital
economy. What? What is he
saying? Oh, the millions being
brought in. I guess he's talking
about the newcomers. I guess if
they're being digitized Yes.
They Yes. They will be. They
will be tokenized yeah, that's
all that's all he's got. Oh, I'm
sorry. Yes.
John C Dvorak: So let's go to
gigawatt Coffee Roasters. And
Adam Curry: I had I had a whole
I ran out of my black rifle. And
it was in the mail because I'm
on a subscription. And I had one
of the gigawatts very tasty.
rivaled the black rifle I should
say.
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
suggest people check out the P
berry that they have, which is a
P berries and interesting.
Coffee Bean. Let me read the
thing and I'll talk about it in
a second. That Giga white coffee
and Bensenville Illinois to
1133. All producers should
considering going to an NA
Meetup is good to get out of
your comfort zone and break
bread with strangers. You'll
learn new things exchange ideas,
and who knows you might even
just make a new friend a shout
out to everybody who came to the
Naperville, Illinois meetup last
Tuesday. I'm looking forward to
the next one. Thank you, John
and Anna, for creating this
community of people with such
wide ranging views and
backgrounds. Indeed, I'll take
some OG Pelosi jobs Carmen in
hopes of finding my next awesome
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Okay, so P Berry.
Adam Curry: Wow, I'm glad you
can get to the P Berry. Yes.
John C Dvorak: P Berry is a
which always traditionally it's
like a midget Berry. And they
call him Pete versus like a you
know, do you see the coffee
bean? The bean isn't Berry has
been the bean is like half the
size of a normal coffee bean.
It's a little bitty thing. They
used to be discarded because
they don't you know you want in
the olden days when you went and
had your coffee and you want a
big fat, healthy looking beans.
You didn't want these little
miniscule beans. But it turns
out when you make coffee from
the pea berry sometimes is
terrific tasting it tastes
better. And this has only been
recently discovered by coffee
people because they needed to
know make more money and have
the gigawatt guys have some pee
berries. People should maybe
check it out more you know, in
the morning. Jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.
Adam Curry: All right. Sir Buber
checks in with 207 20 from
Nevada Iowa. ITM I'm donating in
honor of the fourth anniversary
of my wife's passing. Oh, that
was February 7. Oh man, sir boob
rumps. already hear that, but we
will say a prayer for her and
think of her and for you. Can I
please get an F cancer and a
goat karma for everybody's
health? Yes, you can. Thank you,
sir Boober
John C Dvorak: done the mission
message from my wife? Yes, it
was a Nevada. A native of
Nevada, Iowa. No, Nevada,
Nevada. Ah, yeah. I don't know
how they pronounce it there, but
it's pronounced Nevada. Keep
pronouncing it Nevada, and it
makes her cringy. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I say Nevada. Yeah,
you just said it. No, but it's
supposed to be Nevada. And
Nevada makes her cringe. Yeah,
when you say Nevada I'm so
sorry. Crinch Nevada, now told
John C Dvorak: me to tell you I
got nothing to do with I don't
care if you got
Adam Curry: my email. She got
she got my digit. She can she
can hit me up on WhatsApp. She
can slide into my DMs
John C Dvorak: chief fears that
you'll chew her out.
Adam Curry: For anyone who knows
me this is very funny.
John C Dvorak: And Jeremy Knight
is in San Francisco. He came in
at $23.24 failed to hit up the
ATM and only put fit 30 into the
envelope. But he's talking about
the meetup us at the meetup. So
here's some more treasure to
commemorate this date. Second,
get John out of the house meet
up. Club Mallard was epic. The
bartender loves us. Well, let's
see. Let me think why is he
three o'clock and a Saturday
afternoon when the place is
normally three o'clock on a
Saturday afternoon dead empty.
And now you have 40 customers
who are giving tips and making
the liven up to place. I wonder
why. Anyway, so he says I had a
wonderful time chatting with
Jays fiance that's Brennan
Brenton Yeah. Yeah. Very
Adam Curry: good. Sir crystal
ball, Dallas, Texas. 20202. Love
that just an overdue value for
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you're doing, sir crystal ball.
Thank you very much for crystal
ball. We appreciate that.
John C Dvorak: And that leads us
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Lakewood, Colorado. Coincidence?
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John C Dvorak: I'm not hopeful
today.
Adam Curry: Oh, well. Then you
go first since you're not
hopeful. Don't look don't look
at my butt. Okay, little little
soapy in the audio. Don't look
at my butt. Very funny. Wow.
Unknown: Wow.
Adam Curry: You're big on the
wires these
Unknown: Wow. Wow.
Adam Curry: It's I like the I
like the sound of it. Let me see
what I've got here.
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Adam Curry: Just too. That's not
good. How about this one?
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That's
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one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I do too.
Let's go with that. Thank
Adam Curry: you guys. Have a
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Unknown: Good news. Good news.
Good. Good news. Good news.
Adam Curry: That's right. Good
news. We always end the show
with some good news. So that
you're all up and happy as you
go into the next few days
without us we know it's tough.
John scours the Internet to wait
for Mimi's email when she sends
the actual good news clip. What
do we have? Actually, a
John C Dvorak: lot of people
send them in, of course. Well,
this one here I have to talk
about a little bit after it's
over. Okay. This is a little
girl saves her sister.
Unknown: Constant Kwik Trip
turning into a nightmare.
Someone just stole my car on
27th street with my two kids in
the car. I mean, eight year old
girls quick thinking I was
scared. I was like what's
happening saving her and her
sister after a shocking
carjacking. I
was really just about an arm's
length away from my car out
Jorgensen
says he went to grab a cloth to
dry off his vehicle after a car
wash. When someone asked him for
directions.
Then suddenly I heard the
screeching of our tires. The car
was
gone with his daughter's two
year old autumn and eight year
old Charlie in the backseat. He
told me to get out of car. I was
like, oh, what should I do?
Should I run be a scaredy cat or
should I save my sister to
Charlie telling our affiliate
WTF J she knew her dad had the
keys, not the carjackers and she
decided to stay put the driver
ditch the car and the kids at
the Batteries Plus store about a
mile down the road. And Charlie
acted fast her little sister
panicking grabbing her dad's
phone from the front of the car
and calling her mom leaving this
message their dad back and Kwik
Trip frantically on the phone
with police
are over by batteries. And then
an officer is going to come over
meet to at the Kwik Trip. Okay.
All right,
but you guys have my
kids. The incident reflecting a
bigger trend and carjackings
rising 17% from 2022 to 2023.
And nearby Milwaukee and
nationally carjackings up 93%
From 2019 to 2023. According to
a new Council on criminal
justice report tracking rates
across 10 US cities back in Oak
Creek. The Police Department
said it took three suspects into
custody and is seeking felony
charges this week. Now a family
reunited
I ran as fast as I could out of
the back of that cop car to hug
them
hoping others will learn how
quickly things can go wrong.
And I'm pretty well bothered
driving your car.
Yes, we'll drive the car at home
now as well. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's right people
law enforcement doing a good
job.
John C Dvorak: I call bullshit.
Oh, you do? I think this whole
clip is a hoax.
Adam Curry: a hoax. Oh, no.
John C Dvorak: What makes me
think that what makes one we
have a recording of the little
two year old saying Where's
daddy? Where's daddy? Where'd
they get that recording? There's
the car rigged with microphones.
Second, we have a recording of
the eight year olds phone call
to mom saying daddy's been just
missing. Who's recording that
call? Does mom have a recorder
on the phone? Where did that?
Where did that little clip come
from? And then to say that the
eight year old knew that daddy
had the keys while the guys
driving off. That's the last
thing I'd be on a kid's mind.
The thing was to promote a
little message and by the way
this on here. The Halley's news
thing on NBC this an NBC clip I
think of notorious for phoning
up stuff. And so then then
meanwhile, there's the whole
thing. It's it was to promote
this this data on because right
in the middle of it. There's
like an advertorial about
carjackings and how they've been
they've gone up so much. I find
that this is I think this whole
clip has been staged. Let's
Adam Curry: review the rules of
the good news clip. It's
supposed to make you feel good.
And now you just made us feel
bad.
John C Dvorak: I didn't make
anybody feel bad. It's it's
still a cute clip. No,
Adam Curry: it was I felt good
until you just said it was all
bogus. And I love the cute
little kid and you just made me
feel horrible.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I'm
sorry. That'll never happen
again. You better
Adam Curry: believe it won't
happen again. No, deconstructing
the news? The good news? No,
deconstructing
John C Dvorak: good news. Even
though it's a hoax by NBC. No
Adam Curry: sex in the champagne
room. No deconstructing the good
news clip. I just want to go out
happy and now I'm, I'm
depressed. You can see it in my
blood. Geez. Well, luckily, we
will booster. Luckily, we'll be
back on Sunday, where we'll end
with a very good news clip. That
should make you happy and feel
good. Feel good. Coming up next
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain is
nice and sunny. I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday.
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what you said 2016. I liked it
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wars.
You gotta roll president in the
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Uber hawks that thirst for
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International Atomic Energy
Agency has never found Iran in
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John C Dvorak: If Iran wants to
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United States. Again. somebody
that wants to go into war in the
Unknown: United States heading
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