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Adam Curry: Going into the bin
baby. Adam curry, John C Devora.
January 28 2020 for this short
award winning keyword nation
media assassination episode 1629
Unknown: is no agenda
Adam Curry: taking the piano
propaganda and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where we call it
propaganda. I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: It's all propaganda.
All of it, all of it. All of it.
All of it. Oh, my goodness.
Texas is propaganda central
right now. Oh,
John C Dvorak: ye. Ah, the
convoy.
Adam Curry: Eagle. Take Back Our
borders. I really I must alert
everyone. This is Abbott has
been activated. This is all
politics has nothing based in
reality. And everyone's getting
all jacked up.
John C Dvorak: Really see the
photo of all the tractors? Yeah,
well, I consider it a iPhoto.
Because it's like where it was.
Where is this thing where you
have these, these tears? Like a
hillside with tears and tears
and tears all with 1000s
attractors, supposedly at the
Texas border.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, of
course, people are going to show
up at the border. Let me run
through a couple of clips
because this is the battlefield
is now between your ears. This
is and you'd think oh yeah,
everyone. Yeah. We're the good
guys. Now you're being
propagandized. We're talking
about a two mile stretch of
border. There's people walking
across three miles down the
road. But oh no, it's going to
be take back our borders. Texas
Unknown: responded Friday to
Washington's demands for border
access with demands of its own
for the federal government.
Demands for proof wrote Attorney
General Ken Paxton have the
government's authority to turn a
Texas park into a port of entry
anytime you might spend suing
Texas should be redirected
toward enforcing the immigration
laws Congress already has on the
books, Paxton wrote, a strong
response came as Customs and
Border Protection officially
reported more than 302,000
encounters at the southern
border in December. The highest
monthly number ever recorded.
More people than the entire
population of the city of Plano
Governor Greg Abbott said today
he had asked the president eight
times to help with no response,
giving him constitutional
authority to protect the state
from an invasion. Dallas
appellate lawyer David Cole
thinks the invasion argument has
some weaknesses. But he said
Texas may be able to make an
argument on exactly how much
control over immigration, the
federal government actually has
call agreed it is very awkward
right now having military and
law enforcement both on opposite
sides of all of this down at the
border. The governor also noted
today, he believes all 25 states
that are backing Texas in its
efforts would be willing to send
troops to help if they're
needed. All right,
Adam Curry: time to load them
up. Get it ready, locked and
loaded. We're going to the
border don't go. Oh my god, I
John C Dvorak: thought you were
going well, I
Adam Curry: was gonna go until
first of all, we have boots on
the ground, plenty of boots on
the ground. Obviously people are
sick of what's happening at the
border. But this is nothing more
than a Republican Party setup
against Biden, of course. And I
can think I can reasonably prove
this. I'm not quite sure what
Tucker is doing. If he's really
just a willing idiot and all of
this but he had Ken Paxton on
our State's Attorney General,
John C Dvorak: isn't it the guy
that tried to impeach Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. So how's he a guy? Who
what's the deal with him? First,
let's get a little background on
this guy. First of all, the
Republicans in Texas tried to
get this guy out. But now he's
like their spokesperson. Yes,
Adam Curry: there was a battle
for him. And I don't think it
was there all the Republicans
but there was definitely a
faction that did not like him.
And and I have to say that the
title a guy seems like a pretty
reasonable guy. He's doing good
things for the state. But now
it's clear that Abbott is just
the global shill. You have to
realize you've got from
seriously from a callin airport.
There's there's they're
basically bringing in young age
men not to create a an army
inside of America. They're cheap
labor. And it's Republican and
Democrat. You know, companies,
you know, it's just companies
capitalist. Our children are too
lazy to go on work and crappy
ass jobs. And so we need to
bring them in. And they're
walking right through TSA of
this is all the United Nations
Office of international
migration and the faith based
organizations that are that are
paid 1000s of dollars for the
migrant resettle immigrant
resettlement program. It's all a
scam, and we're all being
played. And when I heard this
short exchange between Tucker
and Ken Paxton, it has nothing
to do with what's going on with
with, with the immigrants in
America. It's about getting
Biden out and the Democrats and
Unknown: it's just propaganda.
So what would happen if Biden
decides to quote federalize the
National Guard of Texas? Look,
he can do that any President can
do that. I think that that
pretty much ends his election
possibilities, not that there's
that good now anyway, but this
is becoming the number one
issue. When you come into a
state like Texas that I think
people can clearly see. We're
just trying to protect ourselves
from crime and terrorism and a
lot of bad consequences, I don't
think and now these liberal
sanctuary cities know the same
same problem. They've got just a
little bit of what we have. And
they know that this is real. So
I think it's becoming more
Americans are becoming more
aware. And I think if Joe Biden
decides to force that onto us by
taking over the National Guard,
I think it's an automatic loss.
He's done. And so you know, in
some ways, you have to suffer
with the consequences for a few
months if he does that, which I
still hope he doesn't. But in
the end, he loses the election.
Absolutely. If he does that. Oh,
it
Adam Curry: seems like this is
only about the election, Ken
Paxton, Tucker, please lead the
witness some more. Do
Unknown: you think it's possible
that he will? I mean, I guess
it's possible. No, but what?
What would you rate the
likelihood?
John C Dvorak: You know, I don't
know. I mean, by the way,
anybody who says, you know,
first they get into the topic,
and then they milk it. And then
just to stretch it even more, is
a question you can't answer.
What do you think's the
likelihood? What's your
percentage? One to 10? That'd be
next year? What is your, you
know, just drag it out? That's a
good, good catch. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's leaving the
witnesses obvious. It's obvious.
Okay. We'll continue.
Unknown: Do you think it's
possible that he will? I mean, I
guess it's possible. No, but
what what would you rate the
likelihood? 20? You know,
I don't know. I mean, I don't
really think Biden's thinking
about this much. I think it's
his his his handlers, whoever
behind the scenes making those
decisions. That was I could
probably better give you an
answer. But, you know, I have no
idea what he'll do. Because I
don't think he knows what he's
going to do. And I after he's
done. I'm not sure he even would
recognize what he did. So if I
knew who was making that
decision, I could actually
direct questions, or somebody
could I think that would be
helpful, but we don't country
right now. Yeah,
no, I don't I've never met
someone who could answer
conclusively who's in charge the
United States. Obviously, it's
not him. It's
Adam Curry: only about who's in
charge and Biden's gonna lose.
It's a lose lose for him. I
mean, that that, that was kind
of embarrassing. It's like, if
you really want to talk about
the problem, talk about the
problem. And clearly the the
busing was the setup. I'm not
saying that that was wrong. I've
been I'm not saying that. I
don't agree with hay, give it to
the sanctuary cities. All of
that is correct. But we are
being played. And we're being
played and you called it on the
last show with the take back our
border.com website which seemed
very sketch sketch, I said it's
sketch 700,000 trucks. And so
this is Fox Business News. They
bring on a Texas representative.
I don't even know who this guy
is, but he's a Republican. And
he goes too far and he shows his
hand but even the setup were
first they show you the map.
Look at all these Republican
states. All the governors that
are backing Texas. Hmm. Do you
think it's political,
Unknown: Texas now receiving
support from 25 Republican
governors all backing Governor
Abbott's border actions blaming
the Biden administration for the
crisis? I want to bring in Texas
Congressman, Lieutenant Colonel
Keith self, Congressman, good
morning. Let's talk about this
trucker convoy, you brought this
up just a moment ago. So this is
called take our border back. It
kicks off Monday. So you've got
multiple starts. You've got
trucks leaving from Virginia
Beach that are going to go
through Texas, Arizona,
California. On the website, it
describes the vent events as a
peaceful assembly, encouraging
all freedom loving and law
abiding Americans to attend. I
saw that you posted on AIX, to
raise awareness about that. You
obviously just mentioned it a
moment ago. I understand that
you're going to be speaking once
they get to Eagle Pass. I also
see that it's gonna go through
Yuma it's gonna go through San
Ysidro, California as well.
Seven or 1000 vehicles. That's
the prediction here. How do you
keep that well peaceful, and on
track. That's a lot of trucks.
Well, the people that have
organized this are the same
people at West California to DC
with the truckers rally I
understand we're going to be
joined by Canadian truckers so
these people are committed to a
peaceful demonstration I'll pay
Adam Curry: attend Shouldn't
what he's saying here. He's
saying all these the people who
did the trucker convoy to DC and
then he says, and we're going to
be joined by the Canadian
truckers, what? Seriously now?
The Canadian truckers? They're
going to he's he is playing on
visuals. Oh, yeah. The Canadian
truckers. Yeah, we were all for
the Canadian truckers, it'll
even bring in the farmers and on
Unknown: track. That's a lot of
trucks.
Well, the people that have
organized this are the same
people that went to California
to DC with the truckers, I
understand we're going to be
joined by Canadian truckers. So
these people are committed to a
peaceful demonstration that
we've had enough. The American
people have had enough. were
demanding that the Biden
administration do its job,
enforce the laws on the books,
and secure our border 8 million
people during the Biden
administration. That's more than
the population of Ohio. This is
the time for us to rise up as
the American people can demand
that our president do his job.
Adam Curry: All right. So he I
don't believe this for a second.
I do not believe there's going
to be 700,000 trucks. They set
that number out there. The
number is being propagated
everywhere. And then, of course,
the Fox Business News model. As
the obvious question, his answer
is quite interesting.
Congressman,
Unknown: I love the fact that
people are standing up and using
their voices peacefully. But we
know that bad actors in the past
have co opted these types of
events, and done everything they
can to make the peace loving
Americans look bad. Are you
concerned that there might be
some sort of CO opting of this
con going?
That's always probability, but
you learn as you do these
events, what?
Adam Curry: That may be a
possibility. But why would you
say that may be a probability?
John C Dvorak: That's always a
possibility. Oh,
Adam Curry: you said
probability.
Unknown: That's always a
probability.
Adam Curry: But you probability.
I don't like that. I don't like
that. I don't like it.
Unknown: Probably probability,
but you learn as you do these
events. So know that that might
have been in the past. So
they've got measures in place to
make sure that does not happen.
And I am hopeful that that will
not happen because this should
be a peaceful movement of the
American people joined by other
nations if they want to come
this is the Canadian farmers,
trucker. This is the German
farmers. This is the French
farmers release the Dutch
farmers. This is a movement well
beyond the United States that
people are simply tired of the
overreach of their federal
governments that were pushing
back. Now is the time.
John C Dvorak: Well, how many
federal governments are there
besides ours? How can they
always say, I've noticed this
before? Recently, I don't have
any clips, but where they're
referring to like the French
federal government or the or the
British? And they say, well, the
federal government?
Adam Curry: Federal Government's
Exactly. So a couple things
here. So you know, the Biden
administration, I don't know if
I actually have a clip of that,
I think actually do. said, Oh,
where we're stopping all LPG
export license as an
immediately. That's all they're
trying to screw with Texas? I
don't think so. I think what
what Biden is trying to do is
keep lots of gas in America and
maybe do something about
inflation, lowering liquid
lowering natural gas prices, it
doesn't seem like that was a
punitive move. All these
messages everywhere. And then of
course, what do you do on the
degree they
John C Dvorak: should be putting
that gas into into play here?
Yeah,
Adam Curry: well, and that's
what they're doing. It has
nothing to do with the
John C Dvorak: just stopping
export license doesn't mean they
stopped pumping now. And
Adam Curry: so immediately, we
get vice. I want to remind
everybody that Vice went
bankrupt and was purchased by
one of its major debt holders,
Soros. Soros investments, for
$200 million. They wound up
buying it for like $2. And here
is their headline, protest.
convoy headed to southern border
is calling itself an army of
God. Experts say that the
Christian nationalist rhetoric
adds a dangerous dimension to
the standoff between Texas and
the federal government. And this
is written by Tess Owen. And
let's look at some other VICE
News story by test Oh, an
extremist call for civil war and
succession over Texas border
ruling. Far Right Congressman
explains there aren't enough
white people joining the army
Republican wants schools to call
animal control on furry
students. Come on, people get
it. That's a good one. have
actually this is a war for your
mind. And well let's get some
joy read to balance out the
coverage here something
Unknown: called take our border
back convoy noted this on a line
today. And here is a polite gist
of the text in this invitation.
It says calling all truckers
bikers, law enforcement,
Veterans Military elected
bikers. Yeah, we
Adam Curry: need some bikers,
all truckers we're podcast our
spotlight
John C Dvorak: podcasters
bikers, law
Unknown: enforcement, veterans,
military officials, business
owners ranches and freedom
loving Americans. It's supposed
to start in Virginia Beach on
Monday. Its separate rallies on
February 3 In your Eagle Pass
Texas yuma arizona and San
Ysidro, California. They're
saying it's supposed to be a
peaceful convoy and active,
active activism lineup of people
sounds a lot like the lineup of
people who were at January 6.
Adam Curry: He says, It sounds
like the same people that were a
January section.
Unknown: A lot like the lineup
of people who
were at January 6, right?
Listen, as long as it's
peaceful. I support people's
right to booze. Yeah, you know,
they don't like was having an
aborted bout means it's
peaceful, right. But this idea
this
John C Dvorak: is peaceful,
right?
Adam Curry: As long as peaceful
right? As long as these peaceful
Right? Right,
Unknown: by all means protest
laws is peaceful, right. But
this idea that trying to spark
some sort of civil war, that's a
real problem. That's not That's
not a thing. And you know, when
you look at that map, you see a
lot of places where there are
very few people. And that, you
know, the places in between
places are the places that are
angry, they are the places where
the power doesn't reside in
creature, and therefore, and
they want to be separate from
the places where it does reside,
because the biggest universities
are not there. The biggest
cities are not there. They feel
overwhelmed, but you cannot, you
know, plan to break away from
the United States just because
you feel overwhelmed. You have
to win the argument. And that is
where they are failing.
Yeah, I think a lot of people
forget what
John C Dvorak: the, yes. What
argument is he talking about?
He's just talking
Adam Curry: poop. He has nothing
to say nothing.
Unknown: Well, but you cannot,
you know, plan to break away
from the United States. Just
because you feel overwhelmed.
You have to win the argument who
John C Dvorak: wants to break
away from the United States
because they feel overwhelmed.
That's
Adam Curry: what this is the
propaganda. Oh, they want us to
just slow that in. Yes. Yes.
They want us to cede
Unknown: break away from the
United States just because you
feel overwhelmed. You have to
win the argument. And that is
where they are failing.
Yeah, I think a lot of people
forget that the what originally
sparked the notion of Civil War
was the it was an election. It
was the election of Abraham
Lincoln, who the slave owning
South slaveholding South did not
want to be the President of the
United States. They feared he
took away their money making
human bondage industry. Yeah,
Adam Curry: Human Bondage
industry. Okay, well, let's just
throw a couple more on top of
it. Let's bring in the ladies
from the view. We need to do
more of this more. Tim Scott
Unknown: shocked a lot of people
because he claims to be a man of
faith, just like Mike Pence
claims to have been a man of
faith. They have every religious
person scared that they're
coming for their religion, while
the devil takes their soul. They
are not even walking in the path
of as Tim Alberta said, you can
either take up the sword with a
strong man like Donald Trump.
Jesus, they
Adam Curry: they're quoting some
kind of scripture here, John.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
butchering some sort of
Scripture, calling Donald Trump
a strong man, a strong man who
Unknown: takes their soul they
are not even walking in the path
of as Tim Alberta said, you can
either take up the sword with a
strong man like Donald Trump, or
you can walk in the path of
Jesus. They have all completely
you know, in their cheek I was
to their face I was making about
Adam Curry: a turn their cheek
on their faith. This is a new
one.
John C Dvorak: You're these
these women on the viewer, a
bunch of atheists. I love the
turning
Adam Curry: their cheek on faith
is fantastic. There
John C Dvorak: are a bunch of
atheists and then they go off
every once in a while. I don't
know what the point of going in
the other direction is. I have
It's baffling to me to listen to
these people. Well, that's why
it's fun.
Unknown: Jesus, they have all
completely, you know, in their
cheek, I was to their face. I
was
thinking about all of this
today. And it's like, you know,
Trump
Adam Curry: was thinking smoke
was coming out of my ears.
Unknown: I was to their face. I
was thinking about all of this
today. And it's like, you know,
Trump is his word of the times.
You don't like when Ronald
Reagan was around? John Kennedy
and the rest of them. There was
a certain decorum in the
atmosphere. There is total chaos
now because of social media, and
all of the things that he any
anonymous idiot can make a
statement. He
is scary. Many people realize
that they were this is really up
to us. It's not up to the media.
It's not up to us at The table
it is strictly in your hands.
What country do you want to be
in? What country do you want to
be in? Do you want to be in a
country where people can live up
to their potential no matter
what their faith is, no matter
what their visual is, no matter
what their proclivities are, the
country you want, where you can
be who you are, or do you want
to be in a country where the man
says, day one, I'm going to be a
dictator.
Adam Curry: Oh, misquote,
dictator, dictator, come on. So
they're just, you know, again,
just go listen to C span in the
morning you'll hear Democrat
line, he's going to be a
dictator. You'll hear we're
probably one from day one.
You'll hear Republican line.
Biden's letting the man ruining
the country.
John C Dvorak: Just just
Adam Curry: to prove a gummy
nerd is 33 wrong because he's
such a douche in the troll room.
John C Dvorak: I'm very nerd 33
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's a douche.
John C Dvorak: He's a douche
various a guy or a girl. You may
have misgendered him? Yeah, I
Adam Curry: hope I did. But Adam
isn't even aware that the
Canadian truckers are really
ruling on the field here. Yeah,
I am douche.
Unknown: A federal court has
ruled the government's use of
the emergencies act during the
convoy protests back in 2022.
Was not justified. The CBC is
Karina Roman, is live in Ottawa
and Karina even reading over
their decision, which runs
nearly 200 pages. So we're just
all kind of getting our heads
into it. But so far, what have
you been able to glean from it?
Okay, so
let's just go over the language
that the judge has, in terms of
his conclusion,
Adam Curry: this was actually
quite an interesting,
interesting take that happened.
And I think it's worthy of two
clips, that, you know, Trudeau
going after the truckers, taking
their money, blocking their
money was completely illegal.
And they're homina, homina
homina, about
Unknown: him, saying, I have
concluded that the decision to
issue the proclamation that
would be the invoking of the
emergencies Act does not bear
the hallmarks of reasonableness,
justification, transparency, and
intelligibility and was not
justified in relation to the
relevant factual and legal
constraints that were required
to be taken into consideration.
Now, obviously, that is news
that he found very differently
than the public inquiry, the
Reloop reloc Commission, which
found the government was
justified, in invoking emergency
sacked Andrew. And of course,
you know, in this 190 Plus
pages, there are many, many
reasons, many goes over the
arguments of both sides, just to
give people a sense of what
parts of the charter we're
talking about. We're talking
about section two B, which is
the freedom of expression,
Section eight, which is search
and seizure, he did not find
that there was any infringement
on the right to assembly because
even though of course, you know,
people were restricted in where
they were allowed to go. That
is, you know, allowed with
reasonable limits, but in terms
of freedom of expression, and
search and seizure, that's where
he found there were
infringement.
Adam Curry: Actually might have
been blue douche 33 I don't know
if someone named douche
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know
about all this. But so what what
difference does it make? What do
you make this point? What
difference does it make? They
can't, you know, make Trudeau
bend over and take care of 20
lashes? Well,
Adam Curry: it was really the it
was Chris Chrystia Freeland,
who, who was in charge of this
operation? I do have she
John C Dvorak: resigned. I think
that she well, she came out and
apologized for some
Adam Curry: what she's not.
She's not a horrible woman not
apologizing here. So
Unknown: we are aware of the
court decision. We have
John C Dvorak: you noticed the
cadence. Oh, yeah. It this is
the same meal. You have Susan
Rice. Lisa Monaco, they all have
the same exact they're all part
of some sort of some sort of
underlying middle you didn't
Adam Curry: she go to? There was
something about her background
that I recall when we look it
up. I would listen to the clip.
So
Unknown: we are aware of the
court decision. We have
discussed it with the Prime
Minister, with Cabinet
colleagues, with senior federal
government officials and experts
experts. We respect very much
Canada's independent judiciary.
However, we do not agree with
this decision. And respectfully,
we will be appealing it. I would
just like to take a moment to
remind Canadians of See how
serious the situation was in our
country. When we took that
decision, the public safety of
Canadians was under threat. Our
national security, which
includes our national economic
security, was under threat.
Under threat, it was a hard
decision to take. We took it
very seriously, after a lot of
hard work, after a lot of
careful deliberation. We were
convinced at the time, I was
convinced at the time, it was
the right thing to do. It was
the necessary thing to do. I
remain and we remain convinced
of that.
Adam Curry: So she says there
was it was necessary, there was
a national emergency. That's
actually the part that is most
damning as there was there were
issues in Ottawa, but no way was
there a national emergency.
Unknown: And in terms of the
justifiability. Andrew, you'll
recall that there was a lot of
talk about the CSIS definition
of a national threat to
security. And what's interesting
is the judge found, it doesn't
actually matter whether or not
CSIS said that there was a
national security threat or not
me that should be given weight,
that, you know, it's something
to actually consider, but it's
not the sole reason to invoke
it. So you might say, Well, then
why did he say they were
unjustified? And, and, again,
Andrew, I've only read parts of
it. But from what I gather, it
really comes down to this was
not a national emergency, that
the police and the provincial
authorities in different regions
where we were talking about
Alberta and Coots, or whether
we're talking about Quebec, or
Windsor, they were able to deal
with the problem at hand what
really the problem was Ottawa,
and that means it wasn't a
national emergency. Any talks as
well about some of the financial
penalties they brought in in
terms of seizing and freezing
bank accounts, because that
affected people beyond just the
people they were trying to
affect that itself was an
overstep. But he does say that
the Cabinet had the right and
the power to invoke in terms of
that is within their power, but
they did not have the
justification. It was an
unreasonable evidence before
Yeah, I got it.
John C Dvorak: Then again, yeah,
so what?
Adam Curry: Well, you You said
yourself to our our friendly
Canadians of Great America is
that they're good at complaining
and maybe they'll complain
enough.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I did bring
it when they complain
Adam Curry: and they keep keep
complaining that that's very
offensive. And they're
complaining, complaining about
me
John C Dvorak: date. Well, just
for people who don't I was on
Grand American. I have a thesis
about the American Revolution.
The difference between the
Canadians and the United States
when they were both run by
Britain, is that we had a right
we had an armed revolution where
a violent folk, the Canadians
never did, they never had an arm
revolution. They just complain,
they complain and complain. And
they are right and even they
kind of know they're really good
at complaining. Yeah, it works.
And it does work. It does work
is different. It's a different
approach in our approach but
Adam Curry: so while we're in in
this season of reveal now we
know Okay, so that was bogus.
The our trucker thing this
700,000 trucks is a boat I don't
John C Dvorak: understand why
any trucker would go down to
Texas. You have to
Adam Curry: and the vibe in
Texas is we're gonna get them I
mean, people are spun up
seriously they're spun up Yeah,
we're gonna we're not we're not
going to stand for it. I pray
that everything goes okay down
there. It won't take much look
at this just look at the videos
on tick tock and YouTube and
everyone's cracking up their
guns and getting ready it's like
oh my god please It's not worth
it not this this is not the this
is not the battleground in there
I think Abbott went too far now
and it's not even him it's just
the all the
John C Dvorak: all these other
organizations like this others
sketchy operation sketchy say
the borders org or whatever it
is. Yeah. You have to wonder
what what's going really going
on. I swore I wouldn't go to the
board in a million years. We
Adam Curry: have boots on the
ground. So but seriously three
miles away from Eagle Pass
people walking across the
border. Hello, I'm in. So
John C Dvorak: this is a there
was a guy. In fact, there was,
there was a guy on one of the TV
networks that was just walking
back and forth across the
border. United States, Mexico. I
mean, I didn't get back and
forth and back and forth.
Exactly. Now, this, you brought
up the point of the replacements
you're bringing in yet because
our people don't want to work
Adam Curry: migrate? Yes,
migration replacement,
John C Dvorak: I have a series
of tick tock videos. All right,
about the Gen Z, the Gen Z's who
don't want to work now I have
kind of their latest kind of
play
Adam Curry: the jingle first and
play the jingle. So we feel good
about tock tock, tick tock.
John C Dvorak: No, I have
different ways of looking at
this. And I've got one clip
that'll kind of push it over to
one side. But there are rational
reasons that and I've, I've seen
these videos, why these kids
don't want to work because it's
like they're being exploited.
The minimum wage isn't what it
should be. It's 40% below what
it should be on and on date that
you see a lot of it, but I'm
taking the more of the critical
side of this because I think I
think that's always more
beneficial. If people can take
criticism, even though these
books certainly can I want to
play a few of these. I have
quite a few actually. But
they're entertaining. I want to
start with the Gen Z dude who's
quitting.
Unknown: Here's why I'm quitting
my first full time job. For one
we have to go into the office
every day. I have to wake up at
eight so I can get into the
office by nine times even
earlier. Two, people always are
telling me what to do. That's
not how I roll. You just because
just because you're in a
position above me, doesn't mean
you can tell me what to do.
Okay. And three, I'm not getting
paid over 100k Yes, this is my
first full time job. But also I
know my worth, and it's well
over 100k And I'm not getting
that. So I'm excited to announce
that I am quitting and pursuing
full time social media
influencer brands, if you would
like to work with me, please hit
me up. Thank you.
Adam Curry: Well, this is a
loaded clip.
John C Dvorak: First, yes, of
course. This is noodle boy. Part
two, more or less. And this guy
is just so full of himself and
he's going to be an influencer
oatcakes. Sure.
Adam Curry: Which is the number
one dream job of most young
people. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, it's it is
a dream job because if you were
an influence, you could actually
pull it off which is rare. You
can make a million dollars a
year yeah.
Adam Curry: For a while.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's not
forever as long as you feed the
algos. I do want to get to the
classic dough didn't do I should
play this at first this is a one
this woman the nine to five gals
to clip she is the one that said
a lot of this off articles were
written about her she's there's
at least 10 clips of her
apologizing for one thing or
another. And then she finally
ended up quitting her job. And
she's got a clip with that. But
this is the original clip that
got everything started. And so
far as the Gen Z's being
condemned by other people. And
Unknown: I'm probably just being
so dramatic and annoying. But
this is my first job like my
first job after college and I'm
in person. And I'm commuting in
the city and it takes me puking
forever to get there. There's no
way I'm going to be able to
afford living in the city right
now. So that's off the table
like fucking da, if I was able
to walk to work, and it'd be
fun, but I'm not. So it
literally takes me like I leave
here like I get on the train at
730 and I don't get home till
like 615 earliest. And then
like, I don't have time to do
anything I don't. I want to
shower, eat my dinner and go to
sleep. I don't have time or
energy to cook by dinner either.
Like I don't have energy to work
out like that's out the window.
Like I'm so upset. Nothing to do
with my job at all. But just
like the nine to five schedule
in general is crazy. Being in
office nine to five like if it
was remote, you get off at five
and you're home and everything's
fine but like I'm not home it
takes me long to get home and
like, like people are dropped to
the office like it doesn't you
don't get off at five. And I
know it could be worse. I know I
could be working longer but like
I literally get off it's pitch
black like I don't have energy.
How do you have friends? Like
how do you have time to like,
meet like a guy I don't know.
Like how do you tell I'm really
dating like I don't have time
for anything and I'm like so
stressed out and I'm also
getting my period so that's why
I was emotional but like, am I
I'm melodramatic, it's fine.
Adam Curry: I think there's a
couple of things at play here
first and foremost, without a
doubt wages are too low for
inflation and it is very
difficult to make ends meet just
for the basics which now now of
course these children are being
pushed towards Yeah, we should
have universal basic income note
the basic word to that was you
cannot discount several years of
work at home, which is quite
preferable to I guess everybody
work at home that's much better.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: what she said
herself, you know, when you work
at home you get when it's five
o'clock, and by the way, that
one and I don't have any clips
exemplifying this but all the
Gen Z are supposedly literally
stopped. Maybe they do have one
stop at five at five o'clock.
Computers off. They're out the
door.
Adam Curry: John, we saw that 15
years ago of me view. Five
o'clock. Pick up the bag. 505
Everyone's gone. Yeah, poof. And
that's and that is just a
general worth that we saw during
the show. We have seen this take
place. We saw the post
suffocation. We saw the
pandering we saw it and this is
part of the I know it sounds
Boomer ish even though I'm Gen
X, the voice of Gen X and the
face or hair of Gen X I was the
head of Gen X. We saw the
participation trophies. And just
to insert some quick clip into
your clips. Now we have at
airports, multiple airports
around the United States, the
sunflower Blaine, have you heard
of the sunflower lane?
John C Dvorak: No. If you didn't
already, it sounds bad. If
Adam Curry: you display the
sunflower symbol, which you can
get at the airport, there's a
special Lane in case you're you
know, autistic or triggered some
Unknown: passengers at Gerald R
Ford International Airport may
soon be sporting a bright yellow
sunflower, it's part of a
program to identify those who
may need extra assistance. It's
part of the hidden disabilities
sunflower program. That means
airport staff will be trained to
recognize the sunflower symbol
and provide assistance and
accommodation as needed. The
Sunflower item can be found at
the airport's Visitor
Information Desk and security
screening checkpoint. hidden
disabilities are physical or
mental impairments that others
may not be able to see like
learning disabilities, diabetes
or epilepsy for an airport joins
over 232 Other airports around
the world aiming to make travel
more inclusive and accessible
for all 432
Adam Curry: airports for the if
you have learning disabilities.
Come on.
John C Dvorak: Wow, this cropped
up overnight wonder who's behind
it that's worth looking into.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: just popped up for
me this morning. And I saw an
article and someone sent me that
someone sent me a note about it.
And you know that it was for
people who have autism hidden
disabilities. Hey, a my when I
was a kid, blind people went
through the airport. Talk about
a disability. They didn't get a
special line. But now it's like,
oh, I have learning disability.
Oh, you can't learn to stand in
line. No, I can't. I can't deal
with a line. I can't deal with
people in the line. Alright,
back to your Tiktok sets
interest.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can't
deal with people I can't stand
in line can't stand. What
Adam Curry: is happening. You
know what it is? It is food
starvation. They have no
nutrition. They're eating bad
food and their bread. Idiocracy
is nearby. It's common
John C Dvorak: people here we go
to a British, a black British
girl who is Gen Z. And here's
her lament.
Unknown: And Z won't apply to
jobs. Gen Z won't put up with
this. And all I can think is
great. I am so glad that people
born 1997 and on have some sense
not to be exploited. There's
never a reason that we shouldn't
be offering salary ranges on
jobs. I've genuinely wonder what
companies think jobs are for, I
would never apply to something
if I don't know that they're
going to provide me with a wage
that I deserve. And that's
especially true as a black woman
where I know I am much more
likely to not be compensated at
the same rate as my white co
workers. Gen Z. Care about
equity and diversity is a core
principle for a majority of the
generation. So when we're
talking about Gen Z, changing
things up in the workplace,
wanting work from home, wanting
to know how much they will get
paid. All I can think is great.
Let's do more of this.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have the
get what I deserve. Yeah, meme,
which isn't dollars.
Adam Curry: You know, I
understand the disappointment
because I have children with
this disappointment, like, I'm
working in a restaurant, but I
went to college, and I got a
degree. And, and that was kind
of the promise is don't worry,
you know, that just did not
happen. So, you know, sold
drugs, it made a profit got it,
but I was promised and now it
John C Dvorak: was promised who
promised him so society or
society? Well, yes, if it was a
person promising you'd I could
see that you'd have a complaint.
But society can't make promises.
I should mention that you don't
Adam Curry: have to convince me
by the way back in my day. It
MTV. We I think the 1987 88
interest rates were high, I
would say they were in the nine
10%. Nine, I think nine or 10%.
New York was in shambles. MTV
paid. That was non union. If you
are an associate producer, an
AP, which is kind of you know,
you run scripts around and you
and you get coffee. No, it's
above gopher. It's an actual
title you get it says but
brunette he's not old enough to
know what I'm talking about. Me
you had a path there was a path
to go from a P to P you could
become a producer peep these
kids lived for in a in a house
in Brooklyn, which at the time
Brooklyn was Brooklyn. It was
not it was not Yeah, it was not.
And they had massive commutes to
get into the city. And they were
happy. I mean, yeah. And they
they got by and they worked and
and they were the first to be
there. And the lastly because I
can become a P I can be a
producer. If I keep at it. And
then I've seen many of them go
on to I see the Joey the horse
de mio I see him on credit roll
of big award shows as the
director used to get coffee. But
he grinded. You know. That's
that's what's gone. And I'm not
quite sure how I
John C Dvorak: think you're
right, that that's definitely
what's missing. Yeah. And I
think it has to do with the
educational system and the so
called promise from the society.
That yes, I do have a two parter
here. That before we get to the
one that's going to be the end
is going to be the hiring
managers, which is going to be
some people actually talking
about this. But this is a two
parter from a long clip. It's an
X Gen lament. And it is it's a
bunch of X Gen Xers Gen Z lament
it's a bunch of Gen Z years
talking socialism and universal
basic income this was actually
put aside for the universal
basic income discussion. Yes,
and it's it's a bunch of
different people coming in and
out. And and it's got a music
bed, I'm sorry. But it's at
least shows you some of the
other the other element at play
here. Because that last one girl
who was a black woman who's
saying we're into equity, in
other words, we're into you
know, everyone gets should get
$100,000 a year, just because
they're good people. So let's
start with this, this, listen to
this, or know
Unknown: who needs to hear this.
But the majority of your
struggles are because of
capitalism having to spend the
majority of your life in forced
labor. Because getting your
physiological needs met is good
kept behind a paywall is not how
humans should be living their
lives. Humans really have to pay
money to stay alive. We have to
pay for food, we have to pay for
water. We have to pay for
shelter. The Universe put us on
Earth, a planet that has
everything humans needs to
survive. And yet we've evolved
to the point where we have to
pay money to stay alive. And
we're working 40 to 60 hours a
week, like on average. And we
cannot afford to live like we
just do not make enough to pay
rent to pay for food. Everything
is so expensive right now in
wages are not keeping up with
the cost of living and I
think to myself, is it
depression or is it just the
reality? We're living in an
excess?
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, I've
Adam Curry: seen this. Is it
depression? Well, it's part of
it is economic depression. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, a little
bit. Yeah. It's a spotty. But
this is the idea that you're a
human so you deserve free.
Shelter free food.
Adam Curry: And remember, Andrew
Yang's property propagated this
Andrew Yang the UBI this has
been propagated by many
politicians. This is out there
and it's being dangled like
yeah, we need the basics. We
have the rights. We have human
rights for food, clothing,
shelter. We should get that for
free. That should be the basics.
And then when we work we get to
party.
John C Dvorak: Face, where
Valerie
Adam Curry: Gail Clark curry
would say, Adam Clark curry.
Life is unfair. It was harsh.
But it was said to me many, many
times
John C Dvorak: or two, there's
just something
Unknown: very unnatural about
being in this world, the fact
that we have to pay to live, you
know, pay to have health
insurance, pay to eat and drink
like money is so fucking
important. Why do we put so much
power into a piece of paper and
cotton? Is it
depression? Or is it the fact
that our government is more
aligned with corporate profit
than human lives?
government keeps us in a
perpetual cycle of struggling
and suffering that most people
can't even pay attention to
anything outside of their own
communities? Let alone what is
happening in the world?
Is it depression? Or is it the
culture of our country that if
you can't get ahead, you're just
not working hard enough? There
is
no reward for hard working
people anymore? I don't want to
work anymore. What is the point
you cannot get ahead?
Is it depression? Or do I just
need to work harder? Three jobs
and still fucking struggling?
And I'm just getting myself
farther and farther into credit
card debt because I don't have
enough to avoid using it feels
like I'm drowning. Is it
depression?
Are we just been priced out of
existence? Water, housing,
health care,
everyone should have access to
them. It shouldn't matter. Your
social economic class matter
your sex, gender, racial
identity. They are basic human
necessities. No one should go
without.
So what is it? Is it depression?
Or is it just living in America?
Adam Curry: There's one thing
that about the visual of this
clip, which I did see. And I you
can't really know for sure, but
look like everyone in their car
had a pretty nice car. Yeah, I
noticed. And, and I don't know
that a lot. My first car, I was
on television, I was making
19,000 guilders a year on
television, which at the time
was $8,000. I think, of course,
it was Dutch socialist country.
My first car was a lancea. An
old lancea with the paint was
all off, scraped off it. And the
wheel literally flew off while I
was driving to work one day. You
know, it's like that we had Crap
Cars. We worked on him
ourselves. As you can tell,
that's when my wheel fell off,
because I didn't tighten it. But
you know, it's like that, that
John C Dvorak: we used to work
on cars. Yeah, we used to work
on our own cars and move them to
your own car. Well, you have a
gun I had we had the gun. Strobe
Light in the car.
Adam Curry: Can I just can I
just insert a little anecdote
because this is certainly not so
John C Dvorak: well. Before you
do that. I just want to mention
that last clip. When that woman
was reading her laundry list,
she said she used the term
racial identity. Yes. So you can
just say like, self identifies
anything you want.
Adam Curry: Of course you can,
including a victim. So I had not
flown since we flew to Nashville
after the show. And part of the
reason why this is firstly,
taking flying lessons I'm going
for my instrument rating is
expensive. But Amy Lynn, who was
my instructor, 24 years old, she
put herself through American
Airlines Academy took out a loan
for I think $15,000 and, and
she, the timing was perfect. She
got hired immediately at at a
regional airline. So boom, she
was gone. So I really wanted to
make this flight so we can be
back for the show, and then have
a release two nights with my
buddy Vico, who I've known for
35 years in Dallas. And so the
new instructor, Nick, Nick is 27
Similar story, took out loans
because he wanted to be a pilot,
took out loans, put himself
through flight school. 27 has a
two week old baby. His wife is
now at home with the baby. He is
going to work for one year then
we're gonna move back up to
Dallas get his ATP is air
transport license so he can fly
on jets. He sees a future of
course there is a future right
now. And you know and he's I am
not a CIO so she doesn't know
who I am of course he's like you
aren't MTV me back when they
played music? Yeah, the back in
those days. Listens to maybe one
podcast from time to time is not
on social media. It I like
reading books. I'm just saying
it's not this is not par for the
course for everybody. But I was
delighted and very very pleased.
He's with my instructor. The
young future of America. It is
it is here it is here.
John C Dvorak: That's probably
true but that's what we do on
the show but
Adam Curry: he's not on Tik Tok.
So that
John C Dvorak: so we're gonna go
to the last clip in the series,
which is these are. This is a
radio, like Good morning zoo
show radios on the run of the
radio stations and they're, and
they're reading and discussing.
Yeah, everything's got you got
everything ready.
Adam Curry: I'm ready. I'm
ready.
John C Dvorak: They're
discussing what hiring managers
have kind of uncovered about Gen
Z and I thought this was a good
way to wrap up this series of
complainers 100
Unknown: hiring managers were
part of this survey and they
were asked about Gen Z
employees. Well, more than half
say recent calling college
graduates are not prepared for
the workforce. 53% said young
applicants struggle to make eye
contact during job interviews.
50% say they're asking for
unreasonable compensation.
Nearly half say the interviewees
showed up wearing inappropriate
attire. 21% refused to turn
their cameras on for virtual
interviews. And one in five
employers say a recent college
graduate had actually brought
their mom or a dad to the job
interview. People are bringing
their parents to a job
interview.
It's embarrassing. I thought
you're gonna say when it came to
the camera and you know the
virtual interview so they were
using those filters like with
the dog ears and stuff like
that.
I could see that happening to
now those Jen's ears lucky
enough to get the job are not
starting off on the right foot.
63% of employers say young
professionals can't manage their
workload. 59% say they miss
deadlines often and 53% report
they're frequently late to
meetings, and Gen Z has a bad
attitude to 58% of employers say
the young jobseekers get too
easily offended. Imagine that
55% Fine, they don't respond
well to constructive feedback
and 52% claim they have poor
communication skills. So that
girl better adjust her attitude,
and learn how to dress for work
and not bring mom and dad to an
interview when she has an
opportunity for a better job.
Adam Curry: I think we should
just change their names from a
Jen to just sunflower kids.
There's a sunflower kids.
They're the ones that need to go
to the special line at the
airport. They're the sunflower
kids. And and it's really Yeah,
if we if we want to place blame
on immigration, it's their
fault. That's why we have to
bring in Yeah, I have
John C Dvorak: to assume that
that's true. The good news is
that even though it's a
minority, a lot of reporting
that came in because it's
52% 58% 63%. If somebody says
70%, say this, that means 30%
Don't are getting good people. I
mean, they're just not as though
it's not Gen Z is a bunch of bad
apples from beginning to end.
Because there's some that were
brought up correctly, they're
well worth they somehow got
jobs, maybe in the family store,
or they worked during the
summers when they were because
when I was a kid I worked during
the summers when I was in high
school and college and
Adam Curry: at what when you
when I was 16 Saturday job,
you're got you have a Saturday,
John C Dvorak: I had to paper
routes. But I had the paper out
too. I had two paper routes.
Okay,
Adam Curry: your bully for you?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I had a
shopper route, which is the
moneymaker. Don't kid yourself.
Once a week. It was free money.
So anyway, the thing is, I had
run into kids, I give the same
thing. Yeah, maybe I did this in
that when I was a kid. And they
say there's no opportunity for
us because they've and I agree
with these kids who say that
because we moved all our
manufacturing to China and
Mexico. And there's a lot of
word areas that used to be rife
with the industry or got nothing
left. Except you know, some
storage facilities or store
more, you know, your place where
you could put your stuff because
you got too much. So the problem
is, is systemic. But these kids
have got to get a clue.
Adam Curry: The Sunflower kids,
that's what I'm gonna call them
from now on the sunflower kids.
So, of course, this comes from,
and I'm guilty of this too, you
know, helping your kids out bad
teen as hard as you'd like.
That's it, you're not getting
any more figured out. Which is
what you need to do. You know,
tough love it, hey, you can't
pay your rent, you got to find a
cheaper place. Or get another
roommate. I mean, they get
another roommate and that's what
we used to do. So it is also
parents but I will say though,
even if you listen to no agenda
stream, we've got the MMO the
millennial media offensive. We
got good kids out there. I would
say that most of our producers
have great kids. You meet him,
you meet him at meetups, they're
go getters, they they're out
there they're doing stuff so
it's this Is this is not our
norm. Let's put it that way.
Thank God.
John C Dvorak: No, it's just I'm
guessing it's just it's not 100%
But there's a majority of Gen Z
kids that are like the ones that
were toddlers
Adam Curry: sunflower kids
sunflower kids, well, then
there's this this is not helping
much up the road from you in
Oakland. It's
Unknown: just kind of scary in
general, not even just to go to
work, but just kind of coming
outside. Dariel
Crenshaw works for Kaiser
Permanente oaklins largest
private employer, the health
plan is directed workers in
Oakland to stay in their offices
for work and lunch, because of
concerns over crime. Workers are
being told to bring their own
food or have it delivered, I do
agree. Because just their safety
for their employees, you know,
if you can work at home work at
home, if you have to come in,
just be safe about it
in a memo issued last month and
obtained by KTVU. Kaiser also
tells workers not based in
Oakland, don't have any meetings
downtown, move them elsewhere,
or have them online, and also
says the Claremont hotel in the
hills is the only hotel approved
for business logic. In a
statement, Kaiser said in part,
those recommendations remain in
place for now. Kaiser Permanente
is committed to ensuring the
safety and security of our
employees and physicians across
all of our locations. We
continually monitor our
environments for concerns,
review our practices and
strengthen them whenever
possible. Many downtown
merchants and other people who
live and work in the area are
taking issue with these
directives. And that
is a little upsetting to hear
that, you know, because you
know, everyone's trying to
thrive. Everyone's trying to you
know, make business you know, it
is pretty slow as it is I don't
think you want to discourage
people from walking around and
kind of given to the bad
elements that are running
around. I think I think quite
the opposite. I think if there
are more people on the streets,
there will be less incidences.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we need better
examples than what's on tick
tock, you know, you better
examples of people who who grind
go grind. That's That's what
used to be the American dream.
I'm old now. Of course, a lot of
jobs a lot of cushy job,
John C Dvorak: by the way, I
thought Foley sent me that clip
exclusively.
Adam Curry: Oh, I must have
picked it up from somewhere
else. I didn't get it from
Foley. I don't think so. I don't
remember. There was also and
this really stems from the from
the.com Bubble days. As you
know, there were some reboots,
and we got this enormous true
bubble of quote unquote
journalism, journalists
journalism, which somehow
includes BuzzFeed. Then here is
millennial extraordinaire Taylor
Lorenz lamenting the news
business.
Unknown: The entire journalism
industry is basically in a
freefall. Today, the Los Angeles
Times laid off 115 employees,
they wiped out their entire DC
bureau in an election year, they
laid off pretty much all of
their sports teams, they killed
their entire tech and business
section. They laid off breaking
news writers, social media
editors, the list goes on. But
what's really dark is this is
just the latest in months and
months and months of layoffs in
the media industry. In fact, 10s
of 1000s of journalists have
been laid off in the past year,
major media companies like
Buzzfeed News have completely
shuttered their news operations.
Time magazine also just laid off
a ton of people and Oh, Sports
Illustrated basically shut down
last week. Pretty much the
entire digital media ecosystem
that myself and a lot of other
millennial journalists came up
in has been completely hollowed
out and it's not just digital
media sites, local news has been
obliterated. The newspaper
industry is cratering rails
essentially dead aside from NPR
which has been gutted.
Meanwhile, hundreds of workers
at Conde Nast, the parent
company of pretty much every
major magazine, from GQ to vogue
to the New Yorker to Vanity Fair
are on strike because they're
also facing impending layoffs.
Even mainstream national media
outlets owned by billionaires
like the Washington Post where I
work and the Atlantic right
estore have done layoffs. If
you're a young journalist say
there's almost no on ramp to
traditional journalism, even if
you do get a job journalist
salaries have been stagnant and
even declined. And by the way,
we don't make that much to begin
with. I don't think people
understand how bad the world
would be without journalists,
journalists,
John C Dvorak: just as a backup
to that report from her, which
was pretty concise up to say,
here's the print media declined
PBS report from the same
probably about the same time
that she did that,
Unknown: you know, Emory, as
much as it pains me to say this
this this the story of print
media is in so many ways a story
of decline Sports Illustrated,
which was once considered the
standard of sports journalism
today, announced they're going
to lay off most of their staff.
You work in this space. Is there
anything that is working? What's
the story of reinvention for
print media? Is it the nonprofit
model that Evan Smith has
championed with the Texas
Tribune? The
Texas Tribune is a good example.
It's had some financial
challenges, but they've done
incredible work on a different
model. You we have seen in the
past handful of months, this
initiative called press forward,
which is $500 million being
committed across I think 22
donors, foundations and
individuals to support a local
news initiative. In markets
across the country. We have a
lot of people living in news
deserts now in this country. And
this is an this is an effort to
try to return local news to a
lot of those communities
strengthen it in places where
there may be fledgling efforts.
You know, Baltimore's another
good example of that, the
Baltimore banner, if the
Baltimore Sun is disappointing
you you should be supporting
this new this new effort, which
is a startup, which is being run
in part by a lot of alumni from
the Baltimore Sun. Look, in my
perfect world, they both thrive.
But if one model isn't working,
we have to be experimenting with
some others and a lot of those
are not for profit models.
Blogger
Adam Curry: news is worthless
news is news news just is news.
It's opinion that you're talking
about opinion and insight. And
does yeah that's why it doesn't
work with the advertising and
you know, whatever. I want to
get back to that to that in a
moment. I want to take a little
sidestep because the young kids
in the United Kingdom are
freaking out. And I have three
clips to show what this is
really about but they're
freaking out because the army
chief came out with a statement
and said Oh prepare for war
there will be conscription which
is fancy English for the draft
and they're all add didn't get
any Tiktok clips, but they're
all They're not going to draft
me I'm not going to be the arm
I'm not gonna fight anybody. I'm
not going to Oh, no, I'm not
gonna prepare for war. Now
Unknown: simply the United
States actually they're gonna
station nuclear weapons in the
UK for the first time in 15
years. And that's down to
tensions escalating with Russia.
Yeah, Pentagon documents have
revealed the RAF Lakenheath in
Suffolk would host the warheads
that are reportedly three times
as powerful as the Hiroshima
bomb.
Well, this comes as Boris
Johnson has vowed would fight
for his country if the UK goes
to war.
Adam Curry: Now let's listen to
Boris Johnson, who is very gaunt
looking these days, no doubt
from the ozempic that he tried
and he's really just promoting
his column.
Unknown: Lance Corporal Johnson
reporting for duty and
responding to the appeal from
general sunders for a Citizen
Army and encouraging young
people across the country to
think of the attractions
advantages of some kind of
military training or service
because the moment they think
it's either uncool or unethical,
or perhaps they're not following
general Sanders, they're
following Colonel Sanders to
find out what we need to do
about it. My column in the Daily
Mail,
Adam Curry: so let's find out
what this was really about. As
we have Sky News, where the
relatively serious sit down
interview with the former
minister of defense in the UK
Unknown: lucky to have to buy
sell with with us this morning.
It's good to see very
serendipitous because somebody
who you'll know well, General
Sir Patrick Saunders, I'm not
sure if you served with him, but
certainly you have. So you did.
So he's suggesting reading
between the lines in the
Telegraph today that if we go to
war with Russia, we could find
that our US may have to be
conscripted. That's a bit alarm.
Yes, head of the British Army,
one of the most cerebral
thinkers that we've got a
strategist, we need to listen
and listen carefully. We've been
too complacent. I think I've
said this many times with you
what's coming over the horizon
should shock us it should worry
us and we are not prepared.
We've had a couple of decades,
three decades or so since the
Cold War, life has gone well,
it's now going to get more
difficult as authoritarian
states exploit our timidity
perhaps reluctance to really put
fires out and the best example
of that is a democracy on the on
the corner of Eastern Europe
that's in its third year is now
in conflict and we've not
resolved that. So Patrick
Saunders is saying prepare for
what's coming over the horizon.
There is a 1939 field to the
world right now. There's a
forest authoritarian states are
rearming. There's a risk
averseness about the West in
wanting to deal with that and
are waiting for it and
institutions, global
institutions such as the United
Nations aren't able to hold
these Arab nations to account in
fact, the UN I'll go further is
reaching its League of Nations
moment unless It's reformed. So
that's where the world is
heading, we need to wake up to
that there's a mindset now of
this era of insecurity that
we're heading towards. And but
we're still on a peacetime
defense budget of just 2%. That
does change. And the Red Sea is
a great example, that if you
don't step forward, if you
don't, if you're not robust in
dealing with those that are
testing the the envelope, it
will be weakness will be
exploited, and it will affect
our economy
Adam Curry: more money. We need
more money for weapons. That's
what this is all about. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: more money to
squander actually to put in
people's pockets. This half this
money is not there's report
after report coming out that if
you know, maybe 40% of the money
is actually going to where it's
supposed to go. And the rest of
its just being squandered or
pocketed, or Oh, yeah, this goes
through corrupt channels. I
mean, can we do something about
this before we start just
throwing more money at stuff?
Can we it's not impossible.
Adam Curry: Ukraine says it
uncovered mass fraud and weapons
procurement. Oh, you don't say
report from Rwanda? Oh, wow,
really? Oh, that's a surprise.
Now back to the news business. I
believe part of it first of all,
way too much. That was just free
money. Alright, we just have to
live with that. That was free
money for how many years? 1512
years. 0% interest that's free
money, free money. That's why
everyone was investing. The only
ones in my opinion did smart in
the news business, the New York
Times, because they took that
free money and bought games.
John C Dvorak: And kept MP
brought non news product s which
Adam Curry: is the Tiffany
network, CBS, they would always
news is a loss leader. And we
make it up we invest in our news
to bring you news. So that's
part of our service just to get
in the door. But you know, news
by itself has never been a
profitable business. You either
buy a newspaper to propagandize
for your own for your own means
for your own business or
whatever you want to use it for.
That's why billionaires have
always owned rich men,
particularly our own
publications. It's just it's not
a business. But now we oh, we
had the internet and all these
ideas. And so now that has to be
thinned out, they've got to go
away. And luckily, we bring in
something called AI, which, even
though it's sad, that will be
your news, your news, actually
not your opinion and your
insight and your analysis. But
news will just be brought to you
by AI. That's why the getting
rid of a whole bunch of people.
And I think when it comes to AI,
we had an event take place,
something is on the horizon. But
I have said that this AI stuff.
The way it's going to be used is
something's going to come out.
And we need to flood the market
with thinking like, oh, that's
just AI. Yeah, no, that's not
real. That's just AI. And this
is part of the Swift up.
Unknown: Now a disturbing trend
on social media struck one of
the world's biggest stars this
week, when explicit AI generated
images of Taylor Swift began to
circulate on X, formerly known
as Twitter. Taylor Swift's fans,
or Swifties, rallied to flood
the platform with posts and
drown out the so called Deep
fakes. The incident has led to
renewed calls by politicians in
the US for legislation to clamp
down on these AI generated fakes
now,
Adam Curry: so first of all, its
ex now, Elon Musk is great at
making money from the
government. So I wouldn't put it
past him that somehow he's
involved in this up. But all of
a sudden off Taylor Swift,
there's pornographic images of
her head on porn bodies. And I
did some research. This has been
going on for a long time we've
titled by the
John C Dvorak: way, yes, for a
long you could do this with
Photoshop, anytime you want. I
mean, it's maybe not as fast as
the AI is a little quicker. If
it works. If it doesn't work.
It's not. But this has been it's
just the invention of Photoshop,
or even before that, when with
guys who knew how to do photo
editing by cutting, cutting the
low head out of a photo itself
and gluing something. This is
nothing new. This is nothing new
Adam Curry: at all. No, but what
I think is happening and I have
a piece of John Claude Van Damme
Pierre with the question that
was asked about this all because
the White House is concerned,
why is the White House
concerned? Something's coming
out. It's going to be some nasty
images from somebody who needs
to be able to say that's a I
listen to the setup question.
Listen to her answer it there
Unknown: were fake sexually
explicit images of Taylor Swift
all over social media this week,
like generated by AI. How
concerned is the White House
about the news His use of this
kind of technology? And does the
White House want to see Congress
move forward on legislation that
would make sharing posting
images like that a federal
crime?
So I'm glad you asked that
question, because it is.
Adam Curry: First of all, all
these questions are approved
before the press conference. So
for jumping over Claude Van
Damme to say, I'm glad you asked
that question. This was a setup
question. This was known she
knew this question was coming.
It was probably could you please
ask about about the images?
John C Dvorak: And she could
have written a question for all
we know. And
Adam Curry: so all of a sudden,
now we need legislation against
this. No, no, no, something's
coming. That is going to be
highly embarrassing to somebody
important legislation
Unknown: that would make sharing
posting images like that a
federal crime. So
I'm glad you asked that
question. Because it is
alarming. We are alarmed by the
reports of this the circulation
of images that you just laid out
a false images to be more exact,
and it is alarming. So while
social media companies make
images,
Adam Curry: there's images of me
holding up an Israeli flag.
Yeah, oh, it's alarming, their
own
Unknown: independent decisions
about content management, we
believe they have an important
role to play in enforcing
enforcing their own rules to
prevent the spread of
misinformation, and non
consensual, intimate imagery of
real people. Sadly, sadly,
though, too often, we know that
lacks enforcement
disproportionately impacts
women, and they also impact
girls, sadly, who are whelming
targets the overwhelming targets
of unlined, harassed harassment
and also abuse. So the President
is committed, as you know, to
ensuring we reduce the risk of
gender generative AI producing
genders like through his latest
executive order that we
announced just just in the fall
of last year.
Adam Curry: She's reading the
script here.
Unknown: So this problem is not
new. And it's one that the Biden
Harris administration has been
prioritizing since day one, we
have taken this very seriously.
Again, this is alarming to us.
You as you know, he launched a
task force to address online
harassment and abuse. He did
that just this fall, the
Department of Justice launched
the first national 24/7 helpline
for survivors of image based
sexual abuse. And so our
commitment, and that we will
continue to do and continue to
take action, and make sure that
we continue to work on this. And
again, this is very alarming and
we're gonna do what we can to
deal with this issue.
Adam Curry: This has been going
on for decades. This is not new
and alarming. That first
something at who could it be?
I'm thinking Kamala, well, there
may be pictures of Kamala.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Because
she was notorious actually for
having heels. Yeah, I can even
name the guy that should be seen
with
Adam Curry: heels. Hi, Harris.
We all know her nickname in
Washington, DC.
John C Dvorak: So this, I just
want to point out that when she
says, if you notice in the past
that you ever heard, I think
when Kelly McInerney, whoever
was running the trumpet when she
was a press secretary. She never
said the Trump pence presidency.
No. I don't remember anyone
saying the Obama Biden
presidency except Biden when he
was running. Yep. But this woman
consistently says the Biden
Harris presidency and she did it
in that clip. That's what tipped
me off. And so she said that
yes, that would be the lead. So
she so they got Harris mentioned
a lot, maybe could be some
family picture. Now. Harris
Harris would be the because you
know, they I think they still
would like to run her or maybe
it's a way to get her off the
track. Or maybe there's a lot of
possibilities here you could do.
I'll
Adam Curry: be honest with you.
The first thought was, oh, my
god, they've got pictures of Big
Mike. We need to say that's AI.
Now that was my first thought.
But because that would be where
you need it. But then I got this
clip of Larry elder on the poor
boy show, and he says no to Big
Mike. He says Kamala all the
way. Here's
Unknown: the deal. The reason
Joe Biden is not going anywhere,
if you can fog up a mirror is
because the next person in line,
it's not it's not Gavin Newsom.
It's not Michelle Obama. It's a
Kamala Harris. She wants to be
president. I read a lot of black
media, and they feel she's being
picked on for her so called
cackle. They feel that Joe Biden
has given her thankless tasks
like getting to the bottom of
the root causes of illegal
immigration. And black women are
the most loyal part of the
Democratic base, and they will
be furious if she's dropped
kicked for anybody other than
Michelle Obama. And Michelle
Obama does not want the job. She
wants to be loved. She wants to
be liked. There's nothing that's
always suggest to me that she
has the temperament does not
have the temperament to be a
politician. She complained for
eight years about what it was
like to be in a fishbowl of
being first Lady, what makes you
think she wants to be a
politician and if Michelle
Kamala Harris have dropped kick
for some white dudes like Mayor
Pete or Gavin Newsom, they will
be livid. They won't vote
Republican, they just won't vote
at all, thereby guaranteeing
whoever we nominate will win.
They won't do that, that you
live with the identity race
card, you die with it. And
that's why she's there. She got
picked because she's a black
female. She's still a black
female by the way she wanted to
run for president she did run
and tell her to step aside from
Michelle Obama, even if Michelle
Obama announced but what she
Kamala ran for da of San
Francisco she got elected. She
ran for ag of California got
elected and reelected she ran
for US Senator got elected and
she's on the card with with Joe
Biden got elected she's never
last election when she's been on
the ticket. Nothing and there's
nothing that all that suggests
to me that she's going oh my
god, I'm incompetent. I'll step
aside for Michelle Obama. Oh my
god. I mean, crap. Let's step
aside for Gavin Newsom. Not
going to happen.
Adam Curry: God like galeri
elders theory there.
John C Dvorak: Yep. I think he
nailed it.
Adam Curry: And then add to that
this women, particularly women,
girls, you know, camo, I think
there's a picture out there.
There's a horse more than one
probably they've got to say this
is AI.
John C Dvorak: Because it's just
fully Brown. As to why
Adam Curry: would Willie Brown
sabotaged? Does he have reason?
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
he would. Although maybe he
would.
Adam Curry: I think it's out
there. This This seems Willie
Brown
John C Dvorak: is a male. Yeah.
And he would probably think that
Gavin Newsom be a better
president and Camelon he knew
that he had a lot to do with
cannon mullahs getting up to
worship guys. He's
Adam Curry: still alive Willie
Brown boy. Yeah, he's
John C Dvorak: still floats
around every once in a while you
hear from him. He may even have
a podcast but Willie Brown would
be I wouldn't put it past him.
He was the probably one of the
greatest politicians in the
history of California Black, a
black guy who is just could make
everything happen.
Adam Curry: Just one last story
on AI I'm a big George Carlin
fan such a big fan that you even
made a compilation for me
because you have it. You have
almost everything. George Carlin
it was neatly organized. You
sent it on a on a thumb drive
for me. Every I mean, yeah. You
John C Dvorak: just have his
discography. I
Adam Curry: mean, you have all
his stuff. It's great. It's
great. It's hard to get as
beautiful. It's a very, very
nice collection. And so George
Carlin's estate sued this dude
over so called comedy special.
That was aI generated. And
people sent this to me like, Oh,
you think AI is no good. Look at
it. This. It wrote the script. I
don't I don't think it wrote the
script. It did the voice. And
when I looked at it, I was like,
no, no comedy comm can only come
from humans. It can't come from
AI and I want to play 50 seconds
of this comedy special. Maybe if
he had played it in front of a
live audience and had real
laughter? Which there probably
wouldn't have been much I'll
John C Dvorak: say, so I haven't
seen this. So this entire thing.
Oh, good. I know about it. And I
just have never followed up
fears. I know what it's gonna
be. It's interesting. 50
seconds.
Unknown: There's one line of
work that is most threatened by
AI one job that is most likely
to be completely erased because
of artificial intelligence.
Adam Curry: I know it doesn't
even well, they have a little
bit of it. But now it doesn't
really mean
John C Dvorak: I can hear it
yet. But it sounds like somebody
else that's just coincidently
sounds a little bit like Carlin
is what it sounds like
intelligence.
Unknown: Stand up comedy. I know
what all the stand up comics
across the globe are saying
right now. I'm an artist and my
art form is too creative, too
nuanced, too subtle to be
replicated by machine. No
computer program can tell a fart
joke as good as me. Well, let's
see. This is just off the top of
my artificially intelligent
head. A fart was in the middle
of a very nasty divorce. So she
went to her sister's house and
she asked her sister, do you
think I'm doing the right thing
by getting divorced? And her
sister said he's been holding
you back for too long. You have
to leave that asshole
Adam Curry: your your votes,
please.
John C Dvorak: Holy moly. That's
terrible. And by the way, Carla
wasn't a joke teller. No, I
mean, maybe early in his career.
He did some jokes. But so that's
a joke, literally. I don't know
how the AI came up with that
idea. And he was observational
comic, very much different and
also used to get into the weeds
with the with vocabulary. And he
didn't sell anything like him. I
know
Adam Curry: But when it first
came out people said oh this is
great and I watched a little
thing I mean, it had within 20
minutes you know there's certain
John C Dvorak: that can't
laughters do not even close to
being that well done really
kills
Adam Curry: it that really kills
it does. So, I still say that
the best is when AI is used by
comedians. And when we have
funny stuff that they make
funny, funny videos Funny, funny
memes that dare I say it blew by
No, no, no crazy. Go crazy.
John C Dvorak: Well, a creative
people get a hold of AI they
Adam Curry: can do things. Yeah,
it's a tool for creative people.
Sure,
John C Dvorak: yes. Why comic
strip blogger all of a sudden is
a great artist.
Adam Curry: He's certainly
trying he's never quite it's
sometimes it
John C Dvorak: hisses yet but
he's gone from his like is kind
of interesting would be very
soulful material that he used to
do to stuff that is extremely
slick. It's just this like as
too slick. It's it was it was,
it was a lot of steps to slick
but it's a an interesting change
of style. That is noteworthy to
me.
Adam Curry: I would like to
remind people at this at this
moment, that this is a value for
value podcast, I almost almost
brought the Executive Associate
Executive Producer segment out
forward to this hour. But then
we had one donor come in to save
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reminder that if you get any
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minutes was a value to you, that
we would like you to return that
with your time, talent or
treasure. And some a good
example of time and talent was
boots on the ground. And I was
not aware of this. Tracy sent me
a note says Adam, a number of my
family members saw a show on PBS
called Nazi Town USA. Which I
was unaware of it came out a
couple days ago.
John C Dvorak: Is the
masterpiece of this is the
American experience show.
wounds. Yes, yes, this show I
would I didn't take any
exception route. But I could
have
Adam Curry: private training, we
have a trailer.
John C Dvorak: Well, let me just
make your you can go do your
thing.
Adam Curry: Sure. I'll be over
here. Just call me when you
read.
John C Dvorak: This thing had so
much innuendo in it about Trump,
the usage of the word
insurrection, the use of it was
one thing after another, they
were trying the best they could
the writers, I guarantee it to
associate the German Boond
movement from the early 1930s.
And the fact that they wanted to
take over the country and run
it. Some is a little sketchy.
But they wanted to take it over
and turn the country into a
Nazi, you know, stronghold,
fascist country was so you could
just you could take I mean, it's
good, by the way. It's
excellent. Information is very
interesting and entertaining.
But the idea there was a it was
pretty propagandistic. And I was
a little offended by that part
of it.
Adam Curry: So Tracy says that
my fam her, his or her family
members were saying this
documentary is exactly what
Trump is planning. It's all
about the white Christian right
taking over the country turning
it over to a new dictator. And
we should mention that there was
a very, quite a substantial
Nazi, fascist Nazi movement in
the United States. There was
really when it comes to what's
the term I'm looking for. We had
we had best looking baby contest
at fairs, eugenics, it was the
eugenics
John C Dvorak: eugenics, it was
like what we were the eugenics
kings, it
Adam Curry: Hitler sent fan mail
to the United States, you
Genesis said, Wow, you guys have
really got a good idea here. And
he loved it until he started
gassing Jews and then the
eugenicist in America went oh,
let's, let's take let's simmer
down a little bit
John C Dvorak: your names to
something else planned
Adam Curry: parenthood which
Margaret Sanger she was a part
of the Eugenics Society of
America. I know you You don't
like that? You don't think I'm
not gonna get into
John C Dvorak: it she her main
focus was birth control period.
Yeah. Not breathing.
Adam Curry: All right. But
there, so there was definitely a
huge, so if anything for sure.
The jump there was a big huge
Genesis movement in America and
we backtracked on that when we
saw what could happen with it,
what could be done with it, we
sterilize black girls, there's
all kinds of horrible things
that we did. This is not this is
not what Trump is doing. I'm
going to play this is very cool,
John C Dvorak: by the way that
what you just talked about? That
the idea that oh, this is what
Trump wants to do. That was the
whole reason for this American
Experience show was to Yes,
twist the minds of the viewers.
Yes. And I find it offensive. I
thought that the information was
good, but I was familiar with it
to begin with. What I found a
way they presented it to be
obvious propaganda, anti Trump
prop, anti Trump, anti
Republican, anti Christian
propaganda.
Adam Curry: And I'm just waiting
for the following question to
pop up again. Because we've
heard it in the past, I tried to
try to find a clip, but it
hasn't occurred yet. If you
could get in a time machine and
go back and kill baby Hitler,
would you do it? This is the
kind of stuff you're going to
hear. IE, hey, if you could kill
Trump before it becomes Hitler,
would you do it? You watch
that's all coming.
Unknown: The 1930s There were
these camps all across the
country. And they
looked normal. But it wasn't.
It was a Nazi camp.
Adam Curry: thing we have to
Unknown: go the depths of the
depression, a great many
Americans started to ask
themselves whether the American
experiment was failing. Lots of
Americans thought that
capitalism democracy they were
done for it and something else
was going to have to take its
place.
Membership gotten
the Friends of the new Germany,
the American and the North. us
for this, this might seem
fascist ideology tapped into
some dark realities in America.
I'd like to tell you a few words
about our purpose Nice.
Adam Curry: Very hard to hear
any have imagined that I know. I
know. It gets a little better at
the end that's that comes
straight from the PBS website.
It's almost done. It's going to
build a distinctively American
version of Nazis,
Unknown: or asterik power or
after influences within the very
fabric of the United States.
They were literally holding
parades in front of Jewish
people's homes. There's no such
thing as foreign fascism.
Fascism is always homegrown.
Adam Curry: And what we have
now, if Funny enough, funny
enough in the United States,
what we have now is we have Jews
very, very worried. I was
talking to the girl who stayed
at our house to take care of
Phoebe, American Jew, and she
says I'm a little afraid,
warranted or not. I'm a little
afraid to wear my Star of David
out in public. I'm worried when
I get into an Uber and it might
be a Muslim. Or might be but the
funny thing is, that's coming
from
John C Dvorak: this media
spinning it up. Yeah. You got
spun up.
Adam Curry: Yes. Very. I
definitely tried to spin her
down a little bit. And, you
know, and so what they're
bringing in now is I'll make
sure you know that it's Trump is
Trump is Trump is Trump is
Trump.
John C Dvorak: Was his Jewish
daughter. Yes. Jewish son in
law. He may be Jewish. We don't
know.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I had it was
actually kind of funny.
John C Dvorak: But okay. Yeah,
he's hates Jews somehow.
Adam Curry: Yeah. The so the
International Court of Justice
by the night I got a clip. I
have a clip to you. Once you
play your clip, I have a clip of
Kirby which I think is pretty
funny. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: do not have
Kirby. Okay.
Adam Curry: What do you have?
Well, that's
John C Dvorak: a good question I
brought condemned Israel. Would
that be the one that would sound
like it? Yeah, Qatar
Unknown: and Saudi Arabia have
welcomed a ruling issued by the
International Court of Justice
on South Africa's genocide case
against Israel, which orders
Israel to prevent genocide acts
in the Gaza Strip. The Qatari
Foreign Ministry said the ruling
serves as a stark
acknowledgement of the grave
threat of genocide looming over
the Palestinian population in
Gaza. The Saudi Foreign Ministry
reaffirmed the rejection of
Israel's illegal occupation of
Palestinian territories and as
violations of the UN Convention
on the Prevention and Punishment
of Crime of Genocide. Meanwhile,
the Palestinian Prime Minister
of Mohammed shtayyeh said he
hopes the ruling against Israel
would include an immediate
ceasefire given the severe
suffering of Gaza residents.
states now have a clear legal
obligations to stop Israel's
genocidal war on the Palestinian
people in Gaza and to make sure
that they are not complicit. the
ICJ order is an important
reminder that no state is above
the law. It should serve as a
wake up call for Israel and
actors who enabled its
entrenched impunity. Alright,
Adam Curry: this is a problem
because this justifies the
genocide Joe moniker. And Kirby
was sent out to defend genocide
Joe,
John C Dvorak: by the way, that
report I should mention came
from China dies okay,
Adam Curry: this report comes
from TRT I think, which is even
more fun. Hey, Kirby, by the
way, have you noticed he's
wearing dog tags
John C Dvorak: but over over
everything over his tie over his
tie, break ice Fred getting shut
down? He needs to be identified
if he's if he's killed, what
what is the deal there? What
Adam Curry: do you think kind of
the, you know, he has a chain,
I've seen this. He has a chain
that you know, the one you'd
have a, you know, your ID on.
And he has a dog tags, you know,
identical you break one half
offs, and that back to the next
of kin. And he's wearing those
dog tie. I find that to be very
bizarre. Anyway, you
John C Dvorak: know what it is?
No. It's the dog tag of Lloyd
Austin. It's a memorial. Maybe
Kirby's just a dog,
memorializing Lloyd Austin, who
is yet to be seen. And he's back
in the hospital. My
interpretation? Well, we'll
Adam Curry: see what happens.
Here is a question that came in
regarding genocide. Joe,
Unknown: thank you. The fact of
the matter is the ICJ has not
dismissed the allegations
against Israel with respect to
genocide. They do believe that
those allegations warrant
further investigation and
deliberation. So do you stand by
the words that you use earlier
this month, to characterize
those allegations? That they're
meritless, counterproductive and
completely without any basis, in
fact, whatsoever? And what are
you basing that off of if the
UN's top court believes that
there is a plausible risk of
genocide, they're specifically
directing Israel to prevent and
punish the direct and public
incitement to commit genocide?
We have no indication that
that's that that's going on
Sabrina. We have no evidence
that they are deliberately
trying to exterminate the people
of Gaza. Well, the
ICJ specifically cited
inflammatory statements that
were made by Israel's defense
minister, referring to human and
non human animals, the President
of Israel, saying the entire
population of Gaza is
responsible. Do not see that as
risking incitement. Comments
like that are certainly also
counterproductive, and
unhelpful. No question about
that. But we haven't seen
indications that the Israeli
Defense Forces are getting up
out of the rack every day
putting their boots on the floor
and saying that they're designed
their whole effort is to go
exterminate the Palestinian
people. They're trying to
eliminate the threat that Hamas
poses. I want to be very clear,
and I know I've said this a
million times. And you're all
probably sick of me following up
on this, but that doesn't mean
that we excuse any single
innocent life loss. The right
number of civilian casualties is
zero. But there's no indication
that we've seen that validates a
claim of genocidal intent or
action by the Israeli Defense
Forces.
Adam Curry: There's no evidence
of genocide he says there's no
evidence they don't get their
boots on every day and said
we're gonna kill us and
Palestinians that would be
genocide. This is not generally
what is the definition of
genocide?
John C Dvorak: Let's look it up.
Okay,
Adam Curry: let's course the
book of knowledge is very varied
these days.
John C Dvorak: interested? How
Adam Curry: about the Holocaust
Memorial? Should we take it from
them? No, no.
John C Dvorak: Britannica.
Britannica. Yeah, I think it's
more objective. Okay,
Adam Curry: Britannica says?
Genocide, the deliberate and
systematic destruction of a
group of people because of their
ethnicity, nationality,
religion, or race.
John C Dvorak: You will here's
the basic. here's the rub. I
think this is maybe from Oxford.
This from Oxford. Yeah. The
deliberate killing of a large
number of people from a
particular nation or ethnic
group with the aim of destroying
that nation or group gets pretty
close. Well, if you do they
definitely want to destroy
something. Yeah, they
Adam Curry: want to get rid of
it. For sure. Well, anyway, By
John C Dvorak: the way, this way
I have to read this. The
original the origin of the term
genocide. The word genocide did
not exist prior to 1944.
Adam Curry: Oh really?
John C Dvorak: It's a very
specific term coined by a Polish
Jewish lawyer named Raphael
Lemkin. It's a new word. It's a
relatively new word. Oh, that's
Adam Curry: interesting. What is
the root of the word is it from
Greek or something?
John C Dvorak: What's the
etymology look and see
Adam Curry: I have said word.
John C Dvorak: Lawyers are
saying here what the animal
ology is
Adam Curry: no. Well, we've sent
in our negotiator
John C Dvorak: here to way way
way sorry. He formed the word
genocide by combining Gino from
the Greek word for race or tribe
with side from Latin word for
killing.
Adam Curry: Right. So erase or
killing? Gino is eraser. Is that
what you said?
John C Dvorak: No. This race?
Oh, race. Oh, you know is Greek
for race or tribe. Oh, race
killing. Okay. Or tribe tribe
killing.
Adam Curry: He should have
copyrighted that and he will be
very rich, right. It
John C Dvorak: goes way beyond
copyright.
Adam Curry: We sent in our
negotiator who do you think we
sent in?
Unknown: Sullivan, President
Biden is sending the CIA
director to help broke.
Washington Post. A gentleman
there CIA director William J.
Burns will look to close the
gaps between Israel and Hamas.
That deal is said to include the
release of all remaining
John C Dvorak: costs for one
second. Yeah. Under normal
circumstances they would have
sent in Lloyd Austin or
Kissinger.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. They
John C Dvorak: can still send
into the agenda rolling his
corpse.
Adam Curry: Lloyd I wouldn't
have been Lloyd Austin as Lloyd
Austin the guides to do the
negotiation. Don't you typically
send a diplomat? If you
John C Dvorak: do? Well, you can
see that's the great thing about
William Burns. He's a historic
diplomat. So as head of the CIA,
they can move him Illinois. He's
just gonna be just a diplomat.
He's not there to collect any
information about it. Boys in
the streets Oh, not
Adam Curry: at all
Unknown: gaps between Israel and
a loss. That deal is said to
include the release of all
remaining hostages held in Gaza
and a two months ceasefire.
Burns is expected to travel to
Europe for talks with Israeli
and Egyptian intelligence
leaders. It's also sledded to me
with Qatar as prime minister,
Israel continued to its defense
today, Gaza's health ministry
reports, Israeli fire struck a
crowd killing at least 20 people
wounded more than 150.
Adam Curry: That report was
missing number of children
wounded or killed.
John C Dvorak: You're slipping.
Well wasn't from Democracy Now.
So
Adam Curry: no, it was Chicago
news wire. Meanwhile, there's
some new allegations about the
United Nation pressure
Unknown: is growing on the
United Nations and its operation
in Gaza, Britain and Australia
on Saturday joined other
countries in suspending their
contributions to UNRWA, the
United Nations Relief and Works
Agency. Then later in the day,
Germany announced it would
follow suit and that one could
really hurt as it was UNRWA was
second largest donor. This
withdrawal of support follows
allegations that 12 Anwar staff
members took part in the Hamas
October 7 attacks on Israel.
Israel, of course, has never
been a fan of the UN. But it's
now up the ante by saying it's
determined to permanently stop
Anwar from operating in Gaza, in
Tel Aviv is also calling for the
resignation of the UN agencies
boss. But there are some who've
moved to defend Anwar, they
point out it has 30,000 People
working under his auspices, and
that the 12 has been accused
were all instantly sacked. Chris
Ganesh is a former Anwar
spokesperson. He says Israel has
a long history of making claims
about the agency, which turned
out not to be true. We
had allegations that UNRWA was
hiding rockets components in its
schools and was colluding with
Hamas terrorists. In fact, it
was UNRWA that found the rocket
parts in it schools immediately
reported to all our major donors
and the Israelis condemned it
what did we get in reply? We got
further accusations in spite of
having done all this that we
were colluding with terrorists
Adam Curry: are very suspicious
John C Dvorak: you know the UN
who did the joke of it is that
it's the United States taxpayer
that's putting up most of the
money that's all I think all of
it all pretty much all I do have
a three by three about all this
time.
Adam Curry: Three by three. I'm
so excited
Unknown: each day run meant by
JC three
Adam Curry: by three bearings
don't read from ABC, CBS and
NBC. I lead you right into it.
That led you right into it.
Unbeknownst to me, we have a
three by three. This is where
JCD takes the top news
organizations lays them out side
by side it seems we have and
three by three plus once again
today.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we have CBC
also but let's go with ABCs wn T
Matt Gutman.
Unknown: Shocking new
allegations tonight against the
UN's largest aid provider in
Gaza. Israel submitting what it
says is evidence that 12 aid
workers took part in Hamas is
October 7 rampage, the United
Nations Relief Agency for
Palestinian refugees or OpenRA.
Immediately firing those workers
saying its investigation could
lead to criminal charges.
Tonight the State Department
temporarily pausing funding to
the agency investigation
proves that in this case, I
think it's about a dozen
employees are assisting Hamas.
And even to the point of maybe
even, you know, involved in
hostage taking then absolutely
they need to be held to account.
It
comes after the International
Court of Justice, in a sharp
rebuke of Israel's conduct of
the war, ordered it to, quote,
take all measures to prevent
genocide. The interim ruling
stop short both of calling
Israel's actions in Gaza
genocide or demanding an
immediate ceasefire. And what
does Israel say to the
allegations of war crimes or
crimes? Families being blown up
in airstrikes without genocide?
The
problem is that come off. He's
doing everything he can use the
population as a human shield.
And tonight Hamas releasing
chilling new video showing three
female Israeli hostages pleading
for their release. The family's
asking we only use a steal from
the video. And David back to
those UN workers accused of
involvement in Hamas is October
7 attack. The Biden
administration is now calling
for a full and transparent
investigation. But they say that
the actions of a few should not
impugn the entire agency.
David's still just extraordinary
of true.
Adam Curry: This if true. This
is interesting.
John C Dvorak: Now that
contradict your clip. Yes, it
did.
Adam Curry: But there was
something in that I found very
interesting. The family has
asked that we only use a steal.
Why not? Why wouldn't you as a
news organization, show the
hostages pleading for their
lives?
John C Dvorak: Might be
pandering. Okay, by being you
know, sickening.
Adam Curry: Oh, unlike
everything else they show.
John C Dvorak: Please, designed
to be safe. It was not their
state department didn't give him
the Go ahead. It's
Adam Curry: designed to be
sickening to show what Israel is
doing to Palestinians. That part
is okay. I'm gonna say
John C Dvorak: in BC.
Unknown: Tonight the UN's
highest court ordering Israel to
prevent genocidal acts by its
forces but stopping short of
calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.
South Africa had accused Israel
of committing genocide and ask
the International Court of
Justice to order an end to
Israel's war against Hamas.
Israel has an inherent right to
defend itself. The vile attempt
to deny Israel this fundamental
right is blatant discrimination
against the Jewish state, and it
was justly rejected. Danny Danon
is a member of Israel's
Parliament, and the
International Court of Justice
said there is enough evidence of
potential genocide that there is
a case to hear, what's your
response to that it
was a fake case against Israel,
about a fake genocide, blaming
us for genocide. That's an
absurd.
The judges highlighting this
quote from Israel's defense
minister as potential
incitement. We are fighting
human animals, but also calling
on Hamas to immediately release
its hostages. The court has no
way to enforce its rulings which
come amid a devastating
humanitarian crisis families
waiting for hours for a single
bowl of soup. Palestinians hope
the ruling will add to
international pressure for a
ceasefire. It
makes it very difficult for this
Biden administration to continue
to
provide cover to Israel,
this reaction from the White
House.
We don't believe that right now
in general ceasefire is the best
approach. We have no indication
that they are deliberately
trying to exterminate the people
of Gaza, the
White House saying like the
cord, it's called on Israel to
reduce civilian casualties. The
US also halting funding to the
UN Agency for Palestinian
refugees amid allegations 12 of
its staff took part in the Hamas
terror attack. The employees had
been fired, the UN says and it's
launched a full investigation.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so they
reversed the order. Yes. The
report they put the UN thing at
the end which NBC would be kind
of globalist operation I would
see the One A minimize
discussing that. So they put it
at the end. I thought that was
interesting. Another thing that
I find unique is why is it South
Africa? Ah,
Adam Curry: the I know this
because a lot of money came from
Qatar into the south out that
guy with the big mouth into the
South African political system.
They had no money. He had the
guy who was saying we're going
to we're going The shoot white
people, that guy, right that guy
got they had no money to run for
there for the election. This is
just what I've read. I don't who
knows if it's true and so they
they take Israel to court, the
international criminal justice
system and and then all sudden
they have all this money. So I
think that's why South Africa
did it. And then they recognize
the ICJ which, you know, because
and I don't even mean doesn't
America, blatantly say we don't
recognize this court?
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
that's the Google. I know we
don't recognize the ICC is a
different court. Okay. They're
all you know, whatever. Okay,
let's go to CBS which has the
mum in my opinion still has the
best coverage of everything. I
think they do the best job even
though ABC supposed to be the
top news network. Here we go.
CBS, the wall continues
Unknown: to close in on
civilians inside Gaza resulted
1000s of miles away in The
Hague. The United Nations
International Court of Justice
has delivered its interim
rulings on South Africa's case
against Israel. The court
residing Judge Jones Donohue
stressed that this was part of a
wider court case to determine
whether or not Israel was
committing genocide. That
however, could take years not
she warned the court
considers that the catastrophic
humanitarian situation in the
Gaza Strip is at serious risk of
deteriorating further before the
court renders its final
judgment. And so
while the courts stopped short
of ordering an immediate
ceasefire, it has unequivocally
ordered Israel to take all steps
within its power to prevent
genocide and punish those who
incite it. It also demanded that
Israel provide food and water,
the United Nations is 1.1
million are now facing
starvation and access to
humanitarian aid, which is still
only trickling in. And for those
who live there. Like Hi, I'm hi
dad who just want a ceasefire.
This ruling was never going to
be enough this immaculate why
would the world cold give them
more time to continue genocide
against us. This is unjust and
unfair. Israel has to report
back on its progress to the
International Court in a month.
But for Palestinians trying to
outrun this wall a month is a
long way away. And today the UN
Relief Agency in Gaza is under
fire. 12 of its workers have
been fired suspected of taking
part in the Hamas attack on
Israel last year and taunting
the United States the agency's
biggest donor to temporarily
halt its funding worth pointing
Adam Curry: out today is
Holocaust Remembrance Day. I was
waiting for that good. One CBS
show in the United States is
from the Council on Foreign
Relations website. The United
States has long had an uneasy
relationship with the
International Court of Justice,
which primarily arbitrators,
legal disputes amongst UN member
nations that recognizes
jurisdiction. The United States
withdrew from the court's
compulsory jurisdiction in 1986
after the court ruled it owed
Nicaragua war reparations. So it
was raining. So it withdrew from
the compulsory jurisdiction.
Reagan pulled us out Yeah, so
we're out.
John C Dvorak: Good for him.
Nicaragua, Rog, lovely.
Unknown: I mean really, really?
Really, dude.
Adam Curry: I right, buddy?
Yeah, like no, no, no, we don't
recognize you when we were
clearly at fault.
John C Dvorak: All right, so
let's go to the plus here is
going to be CVC which of course
is a kind of a boring version of
our networks using that pops the
gotten that pops No, they
usually they don't they I mean,
it's not as bad as some of them.
They don't have anything like
the BBC. But they don't have as
much it doesn't have as much
pizzazz and and triggering is
our networks. Okay.
Adam Curry: Well, come on. What
are you talking about trigger
right off the bat?
John C Dvorak: Well, baby crying
Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's good one.
Unknown: In the Hague protesters
and supporters of both Israel
and Palestinians set the stage
for the momentous ruling by the
United Nations top court.
Lawyers for Israel had wanted
what they call the observed
genocide case dismissed. While
South Africa's legal team
demanded what amounted to a
ceasefire in Gaza. The court
considers that 15 judges did
neither the rule that while some
of Israel's acts in Gaza could
plausibly amounted genocide, the
court did not order a halt to
the war, instead judge to
Adam Curry: hear from the
International Criminal Justice
Court and we all we order a halt
to this bar. Can they do this?
Is it that easy. They can do
whatever they want. I mean, they
can order a high edict they
think they should have ordered
doesn't mean he was going to
follow it. They should order it
was wrong with Israel and the
other previous reports
John C Dvorak: said that they
get damaged month to comply with
some sort of report. India did
do a little paperwork. It seems
to me that paperwork, but
they're signatories, and they
were ordered to stop they have
to stop
Adam Curry: the epithets is just
insane to listen to. This insane
is completely
John C Dvorak: insane
Unknown: plausibly amount of
genocide, the court did not
order a halt to the war.
Instead, Judge Joan Donahue said
Israel must take actions to
prevent an acts of genocide. And
to improve the humanitarian
situation particular
the court further considers that
Israel must ensure with
immediate effect, that its
military forces do not commit
any of the aforementioned acts
Adam Curry: kill better.
Unknown: In Gaza, where the
fighting is some of the heaviest
of the war, and where
Palestinian officials say 26,000
People are now dead, half of
them women and children, there
was disappointment or check and
felt would have come up with
anything. Immediately. There
should have been a ceasefire I
had saved for the videographer
working for CBC News, then they
can start investigating and see
what's really happening here.
When I say methods everyone's
expecting that Israel won't
follow through with the ruling
said Omar Al Sokka. Since wins
Israel follow through with any
ruling from the UN, Israeli
officials, including UN
Ambassador Gilad or dawn,
meanwhile, lashed out over the
fact that the genocide
accusation is still hanging over
the country. Today
the UN has become one of the
weapons in the arsenal of modern
day Nazis against us. Every
human body has become weaponized
against the Jewish state.
Adam Curry: You know what's
amazing about these reports it
has people so spawn up where you
know, it's like Walk down any
street in your in your town. And
look at the homeless the drug
addicts the thieving from stores
the total decay look at the I'll
give it to you the potholes look
at the look look at children who
are crying that they can't make
ends meet no one cares about
that. No. Oh no juice. Let's
troll room was filled with them
today. It's amazing. This
getting spun up over this. This
has been going on forever.
Nothing new. Sadly, yeah,
John C Dvorak: it's been going
on since I remember when I was a
kid. A kid in college I was
college kid when I was young at
the slingshot and they were
arguing with each other back in
the day. This is you know 4050
years ago and I went to hear a I
got I talked about this before i
i went to Wheeler auditorium for
to hear would turned out to be a
three hour lecture on on the
music industry by Phil Spector.
Adam Curry: Wow.
John C Dvorak: That was feels
great. It was great.
Adam Curry: Did you have the
crazy hair? Yeah, you had the
crazy hair.
John C Dvorak: And he was way it
was wearing? He was wearing some
sort of a blousey white shirt
with the frilly the Danda
sleeves. It was like a lace.
Yeah, oh
Adam Curry: yeah, frilly shirt,
frilly shirt,
John C Dvorak: frilly shirt, and
that frilly shirt, he mentioned
that and it was and he was
referring back to the he was
talking about the jukebox box
days of of creating hit records
and talk to any made dimension.
And I already took took this to
heart when I was a became a
column writer. Never have to two
dogs in a row. You can have hit
dog hit dog hit but okay, if you
have two dogs don't dog on,
you're done. You're done. And
they won't they won't play your
stuff anymore. It's just you're
done. Yeah. And so, but he
referred back to the 40s. And
he's talked then he says, you
know, this situ and he talked a
refers specifically to the
situation in the Middle East
with the Jews and the Arabs back
then. And it was just it was a
nightmare. It's always been what
you just said it's always been
going on but now you so why do
we get spun up about because
Adam Curry: we're, we're be
taught to choose aside because
you know, it's all everything.
All the problems in the world
are the fault of one side or the
other. That's what it is and
people fall for it every single
time. Every single time. Whoa
blue, red, blue. Right, Left up,
down Jew Muslim. It's always the
same. Although I don't hear
Chinese Uighur, don't hear that
often.
John C Dvorak: It's ended, in
fact, going to the Chinese news.
Wait, wait, wait, before
Adam Curry: you go to the
Chinese news. I have one clip
from your buddy Kristen Welker,
who is tells us that the White
House is very, very tired of the
protests. Very tired of being
called genocide. Joe. Joe
John C Dvorak: is one of them
upset?
Adam Curry: Very, very upset
about it. Yes.
Unknown: What is the White House
has planned to deal with
protesters in the coming weeks
in the coming months and the
concern that it could overshadow
his message?
Yeah, this event today was
certainly a smaller event. And
we're told it was actually
invite only. So perhaps that is
why there were no protests
happening today. But the White
House is understanding this is a
problem when it interrupts the
message of the President when
he's on stage. So they've hired
a guy named Doug Landry. He is
an expert at campaigns and some
campaigns over the past several
years. And he is somebody who
they believe can come in and
come up with a creative
solution. Or Mike membeli, at
our Monica Alaba said he can
come up with a creative solution
to try to make sure these folks
have a voice and their voice is
heard. But it's not interrupting
the President's.
Adam Curry: You can have a voice
but you can't interrupt the
president. Stop that. Stop
John C Dvorak: came out of that
last particular event, I guess
where I think he was in
Milwaukee, where they call them
genocide, Joe, but genocide Joe,
but it's the
Adam Curry: chanting it's and
it's all it's all the socialist
Marxist influencers who are
doing this been doing it for
decades. They occupy Wall
Street, Black Lives Matter.
Oops, oh, crap. Now they're
doing it against us. Oh, well,
it was for when they were doing
it against Trump, but then do it
against Joe, to be expected but
but that's the point. It's like,
there's atrocities all over the
world. But no one cares about
them. Ask yourself, why do you
care so much about this one? Be
a gatekeeper of your own mind
for two seconds.
John C Dvorak: More concerned
about the pie holes.
Adam Curry: I'm with you on with
you on that shine.
John C Dvorak: This is the as
you as what happened to the What
about the Uyghurs? Well, here's
China from this CCTV, actually
CGTN report from Beijing on
China and their human rights, so
they're obviously taking care of
the problem,
Unknown: or Chinese envoy has
expressed the country's
readiness to collaborate with
the global community to advance
and safeguard human rights.
China's Permanent Representative
to the UN Office at Geneva was
speaking after recommendations
made to China were adopted on
Friday during a session of the
UN Human Rights Council Chinchou
you also said Beijing aims to
ensure that the benefits of his
modernization are distributed
more fairly among its people.
So as you can see you we will be
out of course and so in the
process of achieving this
ambitious goal, we will ensure
the fruits of modernization will
benefit people all over the
country more faily continuously
improve the level of human
rights protection and promote a
free and overall development of
the people. While promoting high
quality development of the human
rights course China will always
uphold the spirit of
establishing itself while
bearing in mind others an
advocate for equal and orderly
multipolarity and inclusive
economic globalization that
benefits everyone.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I know that
people are teaching guys people
are tuning out like a China
whatever. I don't know. It's not
it's not in the programming.
It's not in the programming. If
it's not in the programming,
people don't care. That's like
Africa. You know, I keep trying
to play Africa clips is like you
can see the drop off right away.
Oh, Africa. Yes, a big place.
John C Dvorak: Who cares buddy
wants to deal with.
Adam Curry: I do have a fun and
tight. I don't want to give it
away. I want to give it away. A
report came out a report
somehow. We have big pharma and
the medical industry has looked
into the future and the future
is dementia. In Canada.
Unknown: A new landmark study is
projecting a 187% increase in
people living with dementia by
2050. The report also looks at a
major shift in dementia
demographics in this country. To
discuss the findings is Dr.
Roger Wong, Alzheimer's Society
of Canada, board member,
Clinical Professor of Geriatric
Medicine at UBC.
Adam Curry: I found this to be
fascinating. First of all, the
number 187% not double, not
triple not quadruple, not
180 511 187%. This must be a
climate change model. And he's
got I mean Isn't dementia
something that we pretty much
have licks? Why would it be
increasing?
John C Dvorak: Let's find
because people are living longer
or maybe it's not as part of
it's not increasing or, or maybe
it's the way it's being defined
or the definition is changed.
There's a lot of reasons.
There's
Adam Curry: some of that, but
there's an agenda here.
Unknown: So how do we prepare?
Doctor,
I think there are four different
ways that we can think about it.
The first thing is in terms of
our healthcare system, we need
to ensure that our policies in
place an implementation of these
policies to allow for equitable
access to dementia care,
including diagnosis and
prevention, equitable, all
Canadians in ways that are
culturally sensitive. The second
way is to research we need to
ensure the research on dementia
in Canada would include
participants from very diverse
backgrounds, because they make
up the population in Canada. And
a third way really, is to think
about policies policies that
will reduce differences in
dementia risk across Canada. And
that will include policy to
allow for national data
collection and tracking. And
fourth, and last but not least,
is to make sure that there is
education and support that is
again done in culturally
sensitive ways to support
persons living with dementia,
and their care partners and
loved ones.
Adam Curry: So I was about done
with this. I'm like, Oh, this is
not interesting. Who cares?
What's kind of bogus report and
then all of a sudden, this guy
on cloaks, it's about the
Asians.
Unknown: The report highlighted
the fact that the Asian
population is really going to be
impacted. Can you expand on
that? Tell us why?
Absolutely. So what this report
does is to look at individuals
from different cohorts and
different groupings, and this
discovery that for people with
Asian including South and East
Asian ancestry, that the number
of individuals living with
dementia is projected to
increase by nine fold, so a nine
time increase from about 40,000
people plus living with dementia
right now in Canada to over
400,000. So it's a significant
jump, again, multiple reasons
the population is aging, but
there are also the presence of
risk factors that lead to
dementia since especially in
this population. The other thing
to remember is there's also a
lot of culturally sensitive
values, attitudes, beliefs, or
stigma that could become
barriers in terms of these
individuals accessing care
Adam Curry: those pesky Asians
don't like our health care
that's what that's what this
report is about. Oh, you're
gonna get dementia you pesky
Asians if you do what do you
think you're going to buy eating
healthy that you're going to
live longer? No, no, no, no no
that's this is the
pharmaceutical industry of
Canada targeting the Asians you
got to come into the fold now of
course weird report but of
course what they'll do is you
just kill them. Well, they have
that base layer. Yeah. Make got
made you got made. Yeah, got
made. Absolutely. I'd be very
worried. If I was Asian. coming
for you.
John C Dvorak: There is a kind
of part of the clips earlier of
the kids bitching about the
country being crap and United
States is it's all America's
fault and capitalism Cordex this
is gonna play this is a clip I
think is going to portend
especially if Trump gets elected
because people want to leave the
country. But this is from a show
called the bridge. I played the
whole I think I have the whole
beginning so you get a feeling
for it. This is a podcast. Oh,
luckily out of Beijing. Oh, and
I just want you to hear what
they think of the of this new
trend.
Adam Curry: Snappy music, I like
it already. This is a great
podcast,
Unknown: shall I call it upon to
the bridge the fun conversations
on culture, life and everything
in between.
Find us where you get your
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bridge. To the bridge, the
American Dream is no longer to
settle down in the states and
have kids and then quote, The
American dream is to leave
America and quote what does that
bring to mind for you? baybay
Wow,
that's a huge statement.
Great. I
love that. Through well, maybe
to a certain extent, but you're
I was reading about this. And my
the thought in my mind was,
there could be a silver lining
to this dark cloud, you may say,
you know, dark for US citizens.
But then I think this will be a
great opportunity for more
Americans, especially the
younger generation to walk out
of the country.
Adam Curry: I love this because,
yes, I would say a large
contingent of young people in
America think that you can just
go to any country and go in and
live and work. Yes, that's how
it works here. Apparently. The
answer no, no, Austria does
Australia, don't they still
require, like a million dollars
in the bank account? Or some you
have to be at a literal
John C Dvorak: to become an
Australian citizen that might be
required?
Adam Curry: I think it's even
for working there longer term.
No,
John C Dvorak: I don't think
well, maybe we have Australia
and New Zealand is pretty easy
to get into. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, who would want
to go No one goes. No, I think
you have to be a billionaire and
and build a bunker if you want
to live in New Zealand? That's
no problem.
John C Dvorak: I think there's
but I think we're gonna start
hearing about this more. It
started with the CNN report in
the Chinese loving it. Just
dead. Young Americans,
especially like the ones
complaining earlier. is just
going to leave the country. They
hate it here.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, good
luck.
John C Dvorak: That's what I
think.
Adam Curry: I've lived in a
couple of countries. I still to
this day, it was Christina.
John C Dvorak: And you've lived
in very, you lived in England
for a long time. And you were in
the very liberal Holland, which
is like, you know, she was
perceived as the great Paradise
by many liberals in the United
States, because you can bicycle
everywhere. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I have a report.
Remember now what I've said many
times is that the Netherlands is
the narco state of the European
Union. Let's get a little
rundown on what's going on in
from Deutsche availa.
Unknown: Now the European Union
is teaming up with port
operators to combat increasing
illegal drug trafficking. There
have been huge increases in the
amount of cocaine entering the
continent through ports in
Belgium and the Netherlands in
recent years and that has
prompted the EU to start a new
project to fight back against
the drug smugglers person has
been steadily ramping up on
European politicians to act to
tackle the drug gangs operating
here. Criminals have reportedly
been handing out hundreds of
1000s of euros in bribes to port
workers and threatening them and
their families to gain access to
shipments. The Dutch port of
Rotterdam is another key focus
of the project. Scores of people
have been shot or bombed in drug
gang violence in Belgium, the
Netherlands and across the
European Union in recent years,
including the murders of famous
investigators and lawyers, as
well as innocent children caught
in the crossfire customs
officials here in Antwerp seized
116,000 kilos of cocaine last
year coming in on ships from all
over the world. It was another
new yearly record for the port.
And bear in mind, that's just
what's being seized, not what's
getting past the customs
officials. The gangs are
bringing the drugs in from Latin
America, mainly Ecuador and
Colombia. The Porter liars
comprises of European
politicians, Port masters,
shipping companies and security
firms.
Adam Curry: And it's so bad.
They're the micro mafia, killing
each other. Over stolen dope.
It's this it's a mess. It's a
mess. But hey, they got wooden
shoes. I just need to play a
couple clips. We were going to
take our break in a moment.
Because Rev. Al had another
classic Reverend Al moment. Not
on his own show, but he was with
the Joy Joy read the readout.
And of course bitching about
Trump is
Unknown: somewhere around a
quarter of a billion dollars
he's going to have to come up
with so Donald Trump will become
more unhinged. He will become
more desperate. We're going to
see him and his followers go
into the Twilight Zone in terms
of action now, because I do not
believe he has the money. And I
And if he defaults, he has
judgments against him. His
property start getting lean. He
is facing something he's never
thought and his brand has been
totally demolished now, because
the big businessman will be
exposed like the Wizard of Oz to
have no clothes and no way out.
Adam Curry: This is a new one a
hybrid. The Wizard of Oz has no
clothes. The
John C Dvorak: Wizard of Oz has
No clothes. This guy is that
gold mine
Adam Curry: the Wizard of Oz has
no clothes Joy read what say
you? Yeah,
Unknown: there will be no owning
beauty pageants and partnering
with Macy's and all of those
things go nice. Now in his state
of mind, what was the movie
where they said you play with my
money you play with my emotions,
his emotions are about to get
played with.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Now while
we're on that
John C Dvorak: he hasn't owned a
beauty operation for decades and
years.
Adam Curry: It's alright the
Wizard of Oz has no clothes.
Bless just discuss this for a
second. This sexual harassment
suit very interesting
Unknown: US Department of
Justice says it former New York
Governor Andrew Cuomo did
sexually harass more than a
dozen state employees. The
settlement was announced today
the DOJ concluded its
investigation and provided ways
New York can change how it
handles complaints. Cuomo
resigned, as you recall his
governor in 2021, after claims
that he created a hostile work
environment, to staffers were
accused of not reporting the
allegations.
Adam Curry: So just contrast
that which no one heard about
what they're doing with Trump.
This guy was an actual sleazy
Scuzz and just gets a 25 second
story.
John C Dvorak: It's quite, it's
quite ridiculous on this Trump
Adam Curry: has plenty of clips
here.
John C Dvorak: Why don't I do
the reason I got my clip in
cludes? A little mention of the
fact. Maybe I don't have it. But
the fact that reed Hoffman is
the one who financed this whole
deal. I
Adam Curry: think I have that on
seconds. I do have that. Well,
John C Dvorak: I know what it
was. It was Yeah, Trump's
attorney came out I didn't
record it. He came out and just
raved about the phony baloney
nature of this entire trial
where they couldn't put on a
defense they wouldn't let him do
this or that or the other thing.
And then she definitely she said
they watched the fact that she
wanted to mention to the jury
that reed Hoffman is paid for
the whole thing is just part of
a smear campaign. But
Adam Curry: do you know what the
now she's claiming? That? You
know, she's getting death
threats. But the real lawyer No,
no, no. This Carol woman but the
real. The original suit. The
where she claimed damages for
was because she lost her job as
a columnist at I think vogue at
76 years of age, which kind of
you might have been lost that
anyway. Yeah, I would think
Yeah, but that's what that
that's what it was really
originally about. Everyone sees
this. Everyone sees what's going
on. It's now here. You're right.
Let's listen to joy. Reid. Let's
see if she sees what's going on
Unknown: the unanimous verdict.
Donald Trump is on the hook for
just over $83 million in damages
at $3.3 million. To be exact. It
took just less than three hours
of deliberation by the jury to
come to that verdict. It's a
huge increase from the $5
million verdict. A separate jury
awarded Carol last year after
finding Trump liable for
sexually assaulting and defaming
her. Now this is the part where
if you've got kiddos in the
room, you might want to cover
their little ears because kiddos
Adam Curry: watch those kiddos
which is paedos talk Ms. Carol's
Unknown: case goes back to the
1990s and she accused Trump of
doing exactly what he said on
that infamous Access Hollywood
tape
Adam Curry: now please indeed,
if you have kiddos in the room,
you may want them not to hear
this because this is on
television where he
Unknown: said when you're a star
they let you grab women by the
you remember the rest. Miss
Carroll told the jury that he
did exactly that to her,
forcibly putting his tiny
fingers into her against her
will.
Adam Curry: She cannot resist
she cannot resist.
Unknown: Ms. Carroll told the
jury that he did exactly that to
her forcibly putting his tiny
fingers into her
Adam Curry: now that doesn't
jive with what he said on the
tape. He said they let you do
anything. Now it's forcibly I
mean I'm just
John C Dvorak: as big gibberish
me forcibly and letting you know
Adam Curry: I'm an effing here,
obviously and the whole thing is
you are all thing is horrible.
The whole thing.
John C Dvorak: This is just
trying to bring back the old
meme so we can get the list that
I made.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we'll play
that as end of show.
John C Dvorak: Play out of it.
Yes, Trump.
Adam Curry: Trump rotate. It's
John C Dvorak: just the same and
plus the new stuff, you know,
which is I've got to add to the
list. Now let me see. Let me
revisit the list. Hold
Adam Curry: on. Let me see if
she adds anything to the list in
the next 25 seconds against
Unknown: her will in the
dressing room of a New York City
Department Store. I'm sorry to
be so blunt, but I think
sometime I actually forget what
we're talking about here, aka
sexual assault, and then he
serially defamed her.
Adam Curry: I liked that
serially defamed, which of
course is usually only used in
the context of serial rape. But
that's a good dude. Job, Joey.
Previous
Unknown: New York jury ruled
that yes, he did both. And then
he defamed her again and again
and again, leading her to sue
him again and leading us to
where we stand today.
Adam Curry: Unfortunately, I
didn't really follow the suit, I
would like to know because, you
know, where does freedom of
speech and and where does
defamation start? You know, can
I sue some of the trolls and the
troll room?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. You should.
Yeah, we're talking the way they
call in Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, all kinds of
things.
John C Dvorak: We'll stop at
troll room.
Adam Curry: Let me see. Is there
anything else we need to do?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I gotta
play this one clip.
Adam Curry: Okay. All right.
John C Dvorak: Because we talked
about it earlier. They This is a
guy on another. This is a nice.
He's a radio guy who has a
podcast and he brought this
character on
Adam Curry: another podcast
you're going to love and going
into the bin, baby. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's not good.
And but this was an insane
analysis of the mystery of the
missing Austin.
Adam Curry: Austin? Yes, yes.
has been delayed
John C Dvorak: alysus I think
takes us a little beyond what
I've been thinking.
Adam Curry: Let's review for a
second. Awesome was gone. No one
knew. We're waiting for him to
show up. It takes two weeks then
he shows up in something that
was supposedly his home. We're
not sure you don't like the
look. You think you know he a
you know and you think he's, you
don't trust it? Is that a good
enough backgrounder?
John C Dvorak: And then it comes
back? He's back in the hospital?
Yeah.
Unknown: What's problematic is
this. We have traders within our
government. And I want to just
finish a statement. I do not
believe what people saw was a
real defense secretary Austin, I
believe he disappeared for the
length of time he did, which is
an abrogation of his duty. And I
believe what we saw was a
computer generated AI
presentation, people said and
I'm not a sound engineer. Good
night. I
have two hearing aids. But sound
engineers have said, it's not
the same voice. They can some of
these guys are sophisticated. So
what am I saying?
What is the real story was
Austin in Ukraine, when Russia
basically blew the hell out of a
NATO bunker. While the rumor is
yes, and even the Russian
Defense Ministry said he's dead.
So how can people go on
believing lies when there is
zero credibility? So
what I'm saying is computer
generated imagery matched with
AI and I don't buy artificial
intelligence I buy this AI and I
think I'm the first guy that
said it as alien interference
alien intelligence alien meaning
foreign to humanity. It can be
demons it can be fallen angels
it can be you know the little
less. What is alien
interference?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I alien
interference. I now am inside.
Does that take Alex Jones it go
for this? This has fallen
Adam Curry: angels. I now have
to go back and do a sound
analysis of of a home homebound
Austin versus you could previous
Austin that's I believe
John C Dvorak: it's so echoey
the homebound Yeah, that you can
do the analysis would be not
valid. I
Adam Curry: think because you
played that clip. I think you
got to Theramin it's been a long
time but you deserve it. You
deserve a Theramin Hey, Willie
in interference. I'd like to
thank you for your curtseying
the morning to you the man who
put the scene conscription say
hello to my friend on the other
end the one and only Mr. Jobs
John C Dvorak: in the morning
all ships you see boots on the
ground feed near subs in the
water. And all the days and
nights out there in
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls control room. Hello troll
stick a few 1920 on the counter
today listening to us 1920 How's
that stack up? This sucks. It's
because of your china clip.
John C Dvorak: One low and China
clip that was one minute long.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you that
China clip does it man. You can
follow along with all of the
trolls. It's very feisty in
there today. It's kind it's kind
of interesting. It's a very good
indicator of the I'll just call
it the troll spun up meter. You
can see you ha boy trolls are
out of control today. Even void
zero went in and said hey,
simmer down people now that's
like you got daddy mad. Daddy
mad when void zero comes in. You
can be a troll by going to troll
room.io You can listen to the no
agenda stream there. 24/7
There's all kinds of groovy
podcasts on 24 hours a day many
of them live, which is fun. You
know, everyone trolls long does
other things. It's good. Yeah,
we have. We start with the blues
and bluegrass, I forget what
it's called. Show on Sunday
morning, followed by Darren
O'Neal. I mean, it's it's it's a
great group, we have that hang
out there. 24/7. You could also
use a modern podcast app, where
you get alerted when, when this
show goes live when many shows
go live. Also, when the show
posts, let's say you can't
listen live. Within 90 seconds.
You get an alert. And you could
tap right in and listen live.
That's some that's some
newfangled stuff right there.
And I'm happy to announce John
that Apple podcasts, Apple, the
big Silicon Valley company has
capitulated. They have added a
piece of functionality developed
by the podcasting 2.0 group.
They've capiche this is just the
beginning they've cracked.
John C Dvorak: And they I don't
know if you want to use the word
capitulated. I'd say that they
wised up. Yeah,
Adam Curry: wised up is a good
it's probably friendlier. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: usually makes it
seem like they were forced or
something they weren't forced,
didn't have to do it.
Adam Curry: No, that's true. I
mean, there's the podcast
industrial complex. What happens
is, we develop something and
then Spotify goes and does their
own version, and then it fails.
So one of the first things we
did in podcasting, 2.0 is
transcripts. And all these
modern podcast apps have
transcripts, you can follow
along, you can search them, and
Apple is now adding that
functionality to the Apple
podcast. So that's, that's just
the beginning. We're taking over
them very slowly. Now, if you
want to make sure that your
podcast is always in your
podcast app, because sometimes
things disappear on some of
those bigger apps, you will want
to get a modern one at modern
podcast apps.com. We actually
said we put them on the list at
the bottom, you have one feature
you get on the modern podcast
apps list at the bottom. We're
happy to have him for that.
Value for value is I have got a
note about value for value. I
wanted to ask you about one of
our producers. Let me see.
Joshua, okay. Can I just read
this to you for a second? Yeah.
All yours. Now, he says, I've
been writing this email to you
all week in my head finally had
a chance to type it up. I love
the V for V model, think you do
an excellent job of promoting
it. Thank you. Well, John, and I
pioneered it. Which brings me to
the point of my email. He's a
sixth grade teacher. He's email
boots on the ground, absolutely
fed up with the way education
have done, the country has been
thinking a lot about some kind
of education model based around
Wii for Wii. I'm very curious
about what your thoughts might
be on this. If you think this is
something that could work is
value for value, something you
think only works in the
podcasting, entertainment
industry, or do you think it
could be expanded beyond that?
John, you are very familiar with
scholastic systems, your
thoughts?
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
already been expanded. It's also
the model used initially by
public broadcasting Public
Radio, public TV, and also you
can't overlook the churches.
Yes. And you can actually
overlook any a lot of public
institutions like museums that
have have used the value for
value mechanism, but they just
kind of skewed differently. But
it's still basically the same
thing. Yes, it could work. I
don't see why not. It would have
to be structured in a way that
would be acceptable to the
participants. And I don't know
how you Dad, I don't know how to
do it. I
Adam Curry: think the main thing
that people forget about value
for value is you need to ask, if
you don't ask, you're not going
to get so it's isn't it really
about asking? Well, asking
John C Dvorak: is it is a big
part. A big part of it. If you
haven't got the wherewithal to
ask, yes. Which is
Adam Curry: a lot of people have
difficulty with they find it
very hard to ask. Yeah, I agree.
You got to ask well,
John C Dvorak: and he has to be
sincere when you ask you can't
just ask like a wimp exactly
like a tip jar. Yeah, you do.
Get a tip jar.
Adam Curry: And you have to take
checks. Do not
John C Dvorak: as an inside joke
as a very inside joke. He or she
had to take checks checks are a
big deal. They
Adam Curry: are a big deal. And
now and we also have stripe now
which is we're seeing people
from all over the world starting
to stripe
John C Dvorak: allows you to pay
pal, I don't know when this
happened, but they some
countries like New Zealand. Oh I
think Australia to some extent
here for sure. Indian, they
won't just want to take PayPal
for whatever reason. Yeah, so we
have a stripe available. I think
that's pretty International. And
then the other one that showing
up now is people put through
their bank or using wise. Yeah,
and that seems to come through
Adam Curry: wise really is
always interesting.
John C Dvorak: Just to it's like
pop money was I mean, it's like
what happened whatever happened
to them by the way?
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, they
dried up and blew away. Well,
value for value can come in many
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talent, treasure time and talent
is very big for us because that
directly goes to our bottom
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Thank you void zero. Look at the
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which is great. So we're happy.
It's working. We have HK we've
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don't think Tim has built no
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watch this. I'll fix Yeah. Then
he did. And we appreciate that
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they they guess what topics
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it turns out to be a mistake
they really miss it usually on
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John C Dvorak: present when we
get to the art later when we're
after the show's over we go over
and we look at this an
interesting topic that we didn't
discuss. But you know, it's like
come on. Well, we
Adam Curry: did discuss Texas we
did discuss Barbie and Francisco
Scaramanga he got it he nailed
it with the with the Barbie with
their AR 15 was in our looks
like an AR 15 It looks like a
hybrid ar 15 shotguns somehow
with a big Texas flag
beautifully done. We did look at
a couple other let me see there
was a lot of lot of submissions.
Let's take a look at what we had
for the
John C Dvorak: last year the
reason for this particular piece
it really stood out as slick
pretty made the point a little
you know the Barbie contrasting
with the shotgun and everything
was just it's just a great
piece. Do you think this was a
good work generally speaking
Adam Curry: Do you think this
was aI
John C Dvorak: it looks like it
might be my heart AI and maybe
some AI involved? Yeah, no no
Adam Curry: certainly not our
logo and all that stuff that the
no way that AI does know
John C Dvorak: today is just too
much work.
Adam Curry: Yeah, when you use
it as a tool, it's good. And
those had heroes John, I liked
the stars on her boobs.
John C Dvorak: I didn't say that
you did
Adam Curry: okay, all right lies
then there was the Barbie
snubbed Barbie with a little her
little Oscar? Was that from
comic strip blogger
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was a
I
Adam Curry: Darrin O'Neill had
his super aI don't mess with
Texas with the I guess it looks
like a cowboy with some razor
wire Oh What else is there I
don't know if there's anything
else that the yeah there's some
Obama's with a Big Mike pin I
didn't It's too small didn't
really work. Who 33 I don't know
there was there and really I
guess that was it was just the
best one it just it popped pop
was there anything else?
John C Dvorak: No not really. I
mean I did like the duck by
madmen it made Marriott
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. The duck
in the air
John C Dvorak: about it Yeah,
Adam Curry: well oh wait there's
another bar Oh, I'd like to the
no agenda Barbie. And we I think
we both thought that that was
actionable. The one that was
down at the bottom and 5 million
John C Dvorak: then the real an
actual Barbie Yeah, that I think
is actionable. Yeah, we got to
because it's using a finger to
do advertising for the show in
the way we're holding the sign.
Yeah, we got to buy I think it's
probably sketchy.
Adam Curry: Well, Francisco
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John C Dvorak: do we need to
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Adam Curry: Yes, T shirts,
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That's Bitcoin money.
Adam Curry: I think it is.
John C Dvorak: Chris Hamilton's
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your bakery worker listeners.
Yeah, I have been meaning to
donate for a while but kept
putting it off. Well, now he's
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Adam Curry: Since you mentioned
Oh, hey. Oh, took me a second.
Yes, very good.
John C Dvorak: Since you
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Unknown: You've been de deuced
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Unknown: They always give me a
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John C Dvorak: And added to the
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Adam Curry: Sir Kaz Brighton,
England. Hello, Brighton. I've
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You're restoring
John C Dvorak: Eli the coffee
guys from Bensenville Illinois.
Maybe it's the sad puppy in the
newsletter or maybe it's the
high quality media
deconstruction but I felt the
need to donate sad puppy didn't
for reduce as much as we'd hope
no. Thursday's breakdown of the
Carey Lake recordings provided
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Adam Curry: here's some bonus
content inserted into your
donation segment. I got an
unedited version of the Kerry
Lake. Recording. In fact, it
also was accompanied by a note
from our producers, who says
Damn, Jeff DeWit is one of the
good guys. He has helped a bunch
of people I know get gigs and
Trump's wake lake was bitter
that Trump was coming in to
raise money for DeWitt. That's
the guy who got who resigned.
And the Arizona GOP and not her.
She was not scheduled to be a
speaker or get any money from
Friday's event. first clue about
Lake was running for Senator
while contesting 2022. Governor
race. She has been running for
VP since 2020. To do we'll have
the last laugh. Blake just
committed political hierarchy
theory. So now I was not able to
clip it because it's it's it's
not good for audio clipping. But
the way it came out the way it
was presented to us. I would I
have to say, the context and
nuance was edited out. That
sounded much more like he was
reporting to her what was coming
down the pike and not
necessarily there to bribe her.
John C Dvorak: So that would be
that would make sense to me. I
thought the whole thing was
rigged. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So and I did put the
link to this full recording,
particularly the beginning as a
lot of the beginning that was
not in the released version. And
there's some other bits that's
just taken out that's taken out
where he's kind of going yeah,
you know, that's what these guys
do that kind of stuff. So I
would have to say that was there
was definitely there's multiple
sides of that story. Carrie Lake
may not be the heroine that she
appears to be. We I love our
producers, sir. Mostly nerd.
$200 No jingles, no karma. And
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You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Right there at
the bottom of the list is Linda
lapad. Can you know where she
is? She's in Lakewood, Colorado,
and she donates 200 bucks every
show. So I can read her note
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
John C Dvorak: must be paying
off for her. Yes.
Adam Curry: Now I would like to
say that although we're happy to
read your code bond, Gino and
all that the concept of value
for value is sometimes it gets a
little distorted. We give you
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value from it. 898,000 people
listen to this show. In the
month of December. The number of
people donating of any amount
really doesn't show
John C Dvorak: it's under 50.
Today. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So it's okay.
Because if we're not doing the
job, you're not getting the
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But we appreciate our executive
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Just consider any value you
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We appreciate the $5 people on
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's start
with I guess his Doosan Palo
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these are impossible to say $110
And he does say or she could be
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Andrew Gardner in Leonard town,
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birthday list and he wants to
call All Out Sir Elliot Gardner
and Joel Cox as D bags. Not sure
why. Sir Elliott would be called
out but they got a few line 13 I
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Adam Curry: That's me neither. I
got no name. Well,
John C Dvorak: somebody sent us
$88.92 Thank you very much.
Kevin McLaughlin is next from
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dispensaries already donated?
Oh, no, that's funny. The two of
them don't leave
Adam Curry: to each other for
the Switch value
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world structure we
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I heard it. I heard. I heard I
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John C Dvorak: Oh, well that you
mentioned it. Hold on. Yes.
Adam Curry: I thought I heard a
show
John C Dvorak: beer. You were
hearing me scratch out something
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Adam Curry: Scratching your
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drinking?
John C Dvorak: This will be
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Adam Curry: can't believe If
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well,
John C Dvorak: I will say that
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John C Dvorak: know? It's
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Adam Curry: I mean, I got the I
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Cool,
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with all the nights and days
you'll be triggered. You will be
ready to say like
Adam Curry: alright, I'm over
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John C Dvorak: I figured you
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had nothing Time over. I
Adam Curry: sewed Here we go.
Okay,
Unknown: take your hands off
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Adam Curry: too long. Too long.
Unknown: It's like a digital
fentanyl.
Adam Curry: Kinda like that one.
Kind of like that one. I think
this this is new. He did some
new Ding ding ding
Unknown: ding ding ding ding
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Adam Curry: then I have this one
there is no evidence I thought
that was pretty good. And then
we go to the well for the final
ones
John C Dvorak: fantastic
episode. We got Okay, so wait
well what will be the winner
right Wait, wait
Adam Curry: wait wait. I have
one more an incredible episode.
Fantastic or incredible? Which
one? This is a tough call I
John C Dvorak: think Fantastic.
Fantastic episode because I like
to breathiness a little bit I
have two okay, which I will
already concede the one that's
going to be that one that you
just played Yeah, but let's go
with promise
Unknown: promise made and a
promise cap.
Adam Curry: It's funny. All
right.
John C Dvorak: And then roll
Unknown: that's not how I roll.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think the
fantastic episode is
appropriate. Yeah, that's just
the one we got to do and now
it's time for you to see I love
it when people post good news
stories that we've already
played on the show I saw that
Mastodon you like keep up well
yeah
John C Dvorak: well the good
news today is I don't have a
good news clip what you know
what happened? No this is how I
was talking to me me and she
posted a couple of clips into
some other clips over a couple
of good ones by the way really
great clips this isn't a trusted
the fisherman and then I forgot
to put them on the on the on the
countdown sheet and I never I
never produced them
Adam Curry: and I don't even
have a backup good news Are you
kidding I shipped from
John C Dvorak: a couple of shows
ago I have a backup good news
but not
Adam Curry: if it's not
currently it can't really can't
really can't really well I feel
bad now. Well, you should this
is your beats. How can you how
can you miss your beat?
John C Dvorak: I know it's
pretty funny.
Adam Curry: Well, then I'll let
you play one more clip before we
go. Just just so we get
John C Dvorak: what they will
call it the good news clip. It's
Miss Biden.
Adam Curry: Always good news to
play Biden. Okay. All right.
What are we playing?
John C Dvorak: This will be I
got to Biden clips. One of them
is Biden talking about the first
about second amendment gun
rights. And here he goes by the
F 16. Comment. Well,
Unknown: guess what, man? I
didn't see a whole lot of
patriots that out there. Walking
around making sure that we have
these weapons. Well, and if you
really want to worry about the
government, he needed an F 16.
Adam Curry: Wow, is he on that
tip again? He's done this
before. This is old. His old
John C Dvorak: everything he
says his old Oh, Biden on Biden
on beer
Unknown: beer brewed here is
used to make the brew beer. Boo
worth Ryder. Thanks for the
great lakes. I'm wondering.
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. You
know, you better have a good
news clip next show. I mean, you
I mean, it's one thing to throw
in a China clip. And then you
have no good news is an atrocity
Trosset I don't know where we're
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
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saying Go Niners I'm John C.
Dvorak We Go Niners
Adam Curry: go nine as we return
on Thursday, right here on no
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son. I have
John C Dvorak: my list and you
might want to see if there's
anything I left out. This is the
Trump rotation and there's two
categories there's the regular
and then there's the criminal
but here we go. Ready? Liar,
incompetent, unhinged
illegitimate President white
supremacist racist bully
immature Russian agent
narcissist mean long ties,
insane tweets too much small
hands all penis Big Red Button
criminal mean racist, immature,
thin skinned runs the MA has no
money unstable fatter than 239
pounds bankrupt 25th amendment
and should be instituted he
hates women misogynist holds
grudges forever plays golf
allied obstruction of justice
money laundering clown
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Adam Curry: No wonder we're
making America white again on
cyber law
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kids are all ages they're given
peanut butter and tortillas
they're given frozen sandwiches
that still have ice and that's
the kind of environment you
would go to you
will you help me know when Miss
Grace shows we don't need no
border patrol
shall
leave the kids alone
leave that cancelled
for funding your walls
all for funding low walls
children and their families
be reunited with their parents
reunited with their parents
Arizona, those kids are ages
they're given peanut butter on
tortillas or even frozen
sandwiches. Still have ice in
the Vironment. You want your?
Adam Curry: That was a very
interesting comment. I thought
that the idea of given these
children's tortillas with peanut
butter, and some of them were
out of the fridge, they still
had ice on them. It's just
despicable to this woman. And
it's just the whole idea of I
don't know if she has kids, but
she's probably feeding a mac and
cheese and they see any
Unknown: weakness. They will
come by the millions. They will
come by the media and they see
any weakness Oh,
aliens is 00 with Mexico since
they sleep in Sydney. I will
build bringing crime. They're
rapists. I will have Mexico pay
for MOPO vorak.org/in a
fantastic episode