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1626: Dingbat

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John C Dvorak: Why are these women behind a chain? Adam
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curry, John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Are they January 18 2024. This Year Award Winning
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Combination media assassination episode 1646. This
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Unknown: is no agenda.
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Adam Curry: deconstructing Davos and broadcasting live from the
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heart of the Texas Hill Country here at FEMA Region number six.
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In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry, from
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John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon Valley where I advise everyone
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to learn how to pickled turnips. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: And this is important for prepping for the
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apocalypse.
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John C Dvorak: It's just tasty.
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Adam Curry: I believe turnip is from the mustard family.
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John C Dvorak: B s that would also apply to the rutabaga,
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which is the root as referred to as the Swede. And also what is
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the rutabaga is a turnip. Ah, it actually has a slightly
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different flavor, but it's a turnip. And just as good
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pickled,
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Adam Curry: and have you been eating a lot of turnips
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recently, this is
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John C Dvorak: I made some pickled turnips and I had one
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before the show pickled the turn of peace. And I decided that
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would be my theme for the day
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Adam Curry: for breakfast. Is that how you roll? Like, what
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should I have for breakfast? I think I'll still have some
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pickled turnip. I have a lot to look forward to my old age and
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it's gonna be great.
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John C Dvorak: It'd be good to be here. Good to go.
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Adam Curry: Ah, hey, my beat is back. It happens every once I
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don't think it's ever is the World Economic Forum is that
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every year in Davos every year so my beat is back on the beat.
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John C Dvorak: Are you referring to Rachel Maddow?
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Adam Curry: Yeah. It's been great this year. Is no has it?
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Oh, yeah. Because well, I can tell you, I don't want to spoil
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it. But the title of the the theme of this year is it's kind
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of apparent. The theme of Davos or as the Swiss say Davao. But
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no one says Davao anymore. No, it says Delvaux. It's Davos with
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Davos. Tons of world leaders bankers business people, flags
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and banners everywhere for Intel AMD celebrate ease. I don't I
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have not seen that many celebrities this year. Although
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the the typical article comes out as scored businesses are
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skyrocketing Hulu
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John C Dvorak: 2500 bucks a night. Oh, is that that's all?
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Well to where it says in the news. Well,
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Adam Curry: that seems cheap. What happened to inflation for
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the
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John C Dvorak: day, make it up in volume.
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Adam Curry: I'd like to deconstruct a little bit with
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some short clips just to get us all into the mood. The theme for
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this year is restoring trust world leaders,
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Unknown: corporate giants, giants, academics. They're all
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coming together in Davos, Switzerland today. It's the
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start of the 54th World Economic Forum.
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John C Dvorak: Up stopping you have to give us a little premise
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where this clip come from.
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Adam Curry: This is CB is just an intro clip from the CBC. CBC
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okay. I mean, I could have gotten it from anywhere just a
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minute intro just to get you into the vibe just to let you
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know what's happening
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Unknown: economically. And security is very tight at the
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Swiss ski resort as those international elites begin to
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arrive. Number of key politicians are going to be
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there US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Emmanuel Macron,
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the French president key Middle East leaders as well. But it's
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the economics of things front and center. The daunting global
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economic forecasts may be of interest to central bankers,
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Mark Carney, the former Bank of Canada had one of those who's
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scheduled to talk today, but to no real official Canadian
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representation in all of this.
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The biggest risk we face is that we lose hope. We lose trust,
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trust into our institutions and particularly trust in our
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capability to shape a better future. Yes,
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Adam Curry: trust we are losing the trust. The funny thing about
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that clip he was saying that to push that guy that Richard, the
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guy from CNN who got caught with meth in his pocket and a dildo
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in his boot. Remember that guy
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John C Dvorak: from CIA who they had him his dick tied to a
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steering wheel? Yeah, guy.
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Adam Curry: I don't remember if it was exactly that. Richard
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Quest Richard Quest. Yeah. So he's they're interviewing Klaus
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Schwab and Klaus Shrivers to us, we lose. I can't take that guy.
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Serious. See anymore?
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John C Dvorak: You could take him seriously before?
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Adam Curry: No, I guess not. All right now into a couple of the
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first one is a little longer. It's a minute of the rest of the
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relatively short just to get our blood pumping. What is the most
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important thing? What is this all about? We had a global risk
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report. This is what the theme is everyone's talking about it.
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Enter stage left Queen Ursula of the European Union's to close.
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Unknown: Let me go back to the number one concern of the global
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risk report. This information and misinformation. tackling
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this has been our focus, since the very beginning of my
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mandate, this
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Adam Curry: by mandate, this is the most important thing
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disinformation.
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Unknown: With our Digital Services Act. We defined the
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responsibilities of large internet platforms on the
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content. They promote and propagate, propagate a
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responsible to children and vulnerable groups targeted by
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hate speech hate speech, that also have a responsibility to
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our societies as a whole. Yes, because the boundary between
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online and offline, is getting thinner and thinner. And the
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values we cherish offline should also be protected online. But
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that's not all. And this is even more important in this new era
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of generative AI generative
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Adam Curry: AI now, the
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Unknown: world's economic risk report that puts artificial
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intelligence as one of the top potential risks for the next
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decade.
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Adam Curry: All right, so that's that artificial intelligence,
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one of the top potential risks of the next especially that
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generic generic motive generic, the generic narrative I love. I
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love the Alright, now a couple of quickies. This is John Evans
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from Alibaba, former Goldman Sachs we're developing
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Unknown: through technology and ability for consumers to measure
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their own carbon footprint.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. That's where are they traveling? How
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are they traveling?
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Unknown: What are they eating? They aren't consuming on the
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platform. So individual carbon footprint
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tracker. They tuned we don't have it operational yet. But
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this is something that we're working on. Yes,
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Adam Curry: it'll be
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John C Dvorak: just, oh, they're working on our carbon footprint
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tracker, that is great.
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Adam Curry: It'll be great because you can use it for
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yourself first, but then I'm sure they're gonna use it
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against you what you eat. We're tracking your carbon footprint
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based on what you eat. So all of this has a very kind of Nazi
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vibe, you know, Uber, Uber mentioned of Davao. And this
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next clip I love to guys trying desperately to avoid saying New
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World Order. This is in fact this is the World Economic Forum
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President Barga Brenda, Klaus is the chairman I guess, the
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founder or co founder, and this is the President bordiga brand.
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And he's sitting there with Jake Sullivan, another fine specimen.
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Listen, listen to how they they attempt to avoid sounding like
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douchebags that order
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Unknown: seems to No, no, not be the order anymore. We are on the
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way to a new order. So we are between the orders. Do you agree
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with that? Or are there ways of? What are we able to keep on the
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positive side from the old order to bring into a new world order?
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And how can we avoid that New World Order becomes like a
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jungle growing back. And we rather have order based on
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international law.
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Adam Curry: You remember when New World Order was just a
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conspiracy theory, this is stupid. There's no new world
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order. That's all it's Alex Jones principles
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Unknown: that have brought us prosperity and freedom. For
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decades tomorrow, Jake,
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I guess, maybe this is the the old kind of teacher me coming
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out. I think of this alternative more about a transition of eras
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rather than a transition to borders. But the two are kind of
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cousins of one another. The reason I draw the distinction is
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because I don't think the international order built after
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1945 is getting replaced wholesale with new order. It
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will obviously as it has evolved multiple times over the decades
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since 1945. But I do think in a in a more thing, sharp and
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distinctive way. We are moving into a new era. And that's what
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I talked about in my remarks that we are you know, the post
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cold war era has come to a close. We're at the start of
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something new. We have the cup pasady to shape what that looks
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like. And at the heart of it will be many of the core
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principles and core institutions of the existing order adapted
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for the challenges that we face today.
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Adam Curry: Imagine spending 1000s of dollars going to Davao
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1000s of dollars in hotel and food expenses and you still have
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to stand in line and listen to these to Jumoke sit there and
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New World Order each other. It's just sad. And then
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John C Dvorak: yes, you do I still love to stand in line.
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Yeah. Now
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Adam Curry: we know the old war is peace. Yeah, the the old 1984
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We asked Newspeak war is peace. Well again Stoltenberg of course
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the still to be replaced NATO war monger he was there and he
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laid it out perfectly
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Unknown: does that if we want that to happen, a peaceful just
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enter this all the way to get there are more or is more
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weapons to Ukraine. Credible we are in our military support, the
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more likely it is that the diplomats will succeed. So
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Adam Curry: to achieve peace, we need more war. Love it. So there
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was a lot of coffee klatch about social media and X. X is very
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bad x x. I guess the the elite messaging system is so broken,
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although I disagree. I think you and I both agree that it's never
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been a better time to spread disinformation. But these elites
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Oh, they're come they're complaining about it's no good
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Unknown: for a long time I was on Twitter. And now it's become
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such a toxic place that I've concluded it's not nice to spend
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time and as you said, it is exhausting. So you do have to
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wake up who is this?
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John C Dvorak: Is that Maria?
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Adam Curry: No, no, these are two undefined women in a coffee
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clutch about x. Okay, just it's just a coffee club. You know,
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they'll have all these little panels. Yes, a nude Nick. Nick,
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Nick Daniels. Yeah, though breakout sessions, it's
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Unknown: not worthwhile place to spend time. And as you said, it
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is exhausting. So you do have to pick and choose. And you have to
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think about where the places where you can get your message
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across. But I am trying to figure out I mean, I haven't
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given up on X but a scary name. And I don't know what the
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alternative is right now. So
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with the person of the social media, I must say that I have
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happened on Twitter, too. So eex? Because yeah, toxic
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environment. We talked about, I have no solution on that. But I
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think one they will come the moment of code of conduct.
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Conduct because journalists, journalists, if you spread crazy
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news and insults, and if you if a journalist is racist thinks he
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can he can be amended. Why? Why social media is that they have
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such big power. We can, because it's new, but I think we there
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will be a societal reflection on how information is proved there,
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of course on also, the policy of the owner, that is problematic,
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but the problem of society of the future,
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Adam Curry: that is the problem of the society of the future, it
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must change. They had a lot of sessions about changing effects,
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and social conduct. And we can't have this and this is no good of
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this not like journalism. And of course, Bill Gates was there.
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Although the bill, he doesn't do a lot of sessions. He seems to
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go on a lot of interview programs now, which is always
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outside. So he's on CNBC and Yahoo financial news. And this
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was I think, some Indian outfit. And surprise, surprise bill is
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selling more vaccines, we make
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Unknown: sure that for all these vaccines, that there's enough
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capacity, that there's competition, so the prices keep
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going down. And we will have new vaccines, we'll have a TB
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vaccine, malaria vaccine, HIV vaccine, and even the things
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like COVID vaccines, we need to make them have longer duration,
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more coverage. And we're gonna change instead of use the needle
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to use a little patch. So the pandemic really highlighted that
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we've been under invested in those innovations. And you know,
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our partners in India are part of how we're going to get these
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breakthrough products done.
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Adam Curry: So what I hear in this clip is the long rumored
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vaccine patch, which has little needles and and gives you the
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vaccine to a little band aid. And I also heard that he's going
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to test it on Indians,
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John C Dvorak: but they want to get The Indian population so
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surpassed China so they gotta
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Adam Curry: gotta give him the patch.
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John C Dvorak: You gotta push it down. Get it back to normal. Get
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that good under a billion he kill off. Hit
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Adam Curry: that patch out there peewee And India is going to
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help us yeah going to help us do this. Thanks. Alright India to
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stay standby. Then of course we have to talk about genocide,
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genocide, genocide, genocide, genocide. Do you know how you
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commit genocide, you commit genocide by fishing and farming,
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ecocide
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Unknown: as a word is becoming more, it's becoming better known
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around the world. And the concept is generally mass damage
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and destruction of nature. But Legally speaking, what our
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organization and other collaborators aim to do, is to
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have this recognized legally as a serious crime. Because one of
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the issues that sort of pervades all of this discussion is that
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we have a kind of cultural, very ingrained habit of not taking
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damage to nature as seriously as we take damage to people and
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property. And that's, I mean, if you're campaigning for human
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rights, at least, you know, mass murder, torture, all of these
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things are serious crimes, but there's no equivalent in the
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environmental space. And so And unlike an international crime,
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like genocide that didn't involve a specific intent, with
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ecocide, what we see is actually what people are trying to do,
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what businesses are trying to do is make money is is farm is fish
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is do all of these things that are producing energy and so on,
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as well. But what's it what's missing is the awareness and the
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conscience around the side effects around the collateral
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damage that happens with that ecocide?
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Adam Curry: ecocide, you're killing fish. And in your
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farming is killing, nature ecocide? We need international
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rules against ecocide.
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John C Dvorak: Of course. Rather,
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Adam Curry: we're almost there. Tadros course Tadros is there.
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John C Dvorak: Everybody's buddy,
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Adam Curry: everybody's buddy from the World Health
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Organization. And he just couldn't help himself how to
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talk about this is x. This is x this is x. So
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Unknown: this is x is a placeholder for unknown. This is
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I just wanted to start by clarifying that because there is
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already a lot a lot of attention, if I may, although
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COVID came immediately that we were preparing for COVID. Like,
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this is diseases, you may
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even call COVID as the first disease exists. And it may
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happen again,
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Adam Curry: yes, it may
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John C Dvorak: happen again, every 100 years, but somehow
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it's going to cycle is going to be sped up. How's that work is?
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Adam Curry: Well, Elon Musk is disease X. But he's just not
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saying anyway, what is really going on here this, everybody in
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Davos is afraid, and they're afraid of one thing. And this is
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really what all the discussions about. It's what it all comes
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down to. And we're just going to come full circle, bring it back
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to Queen, Ursula, this is what they're really afraid of
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business,
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Unknown: have the innovation, the technology, the talents, to
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deliver the solutions, we need to fight threats, like climate
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change, or industrial scale disinformation. And this is more
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important than ever, as we start 2020 for the biggest electoral
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year, in history, democracies across the world will have to
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the pulse, and half of the global population will be
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affected. This includes over 450 million people in the European
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Union, a union of 27 democracies, where all of us
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have the right mind to be ourselves, even if we are
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different from the majority. This
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Adam Curry: is what they're worried about. They're worried
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about the rise of the people, although they classify that as
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far right.
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John C Dvorak: Far Right. And they also like to use the word
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populism as though as a bad thing. Yes. That's
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Adam Curry: what they're worried about. They're seeing it
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everywhere in every country in the world because of them. Yes,
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exactly. So they have brought it on themselves to figure out how
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to disinfo better, they have to figure out how to use generic
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native AI to disinfo better figure out how to dis info about
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climate change. That's what every single session is about.
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They are deathly afraid of the people rising up and doing this
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one thing called voting. So of course, you know, they're
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probably swapping out secrets. Hey, if you stuffed the ballot
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box, you couldn't win is great. Now there was one interview that
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was just mind boggling at Dubbo. on CNBC, JP Morgan. Chairman
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CEO, Jamie Dimon always goes on the morning show always spouts
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off. And he confirmed and Jamie diamond is a Trump hater. He's
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been a Trump hater. He hates everything about Trump. He's
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just a hater. But the hater butters gotta hate and I would
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say he's, you know, he's he's Jeffrey Epstein's banker. proven
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fact. Yeah, I mean, he didn't they didn't have a trial,
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because he paid everybody off. Was it 15 billion or something?
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paid it all off. Yeah, that's how you do it. But he now
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messages what we were theorizing about, that the whole plan is
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here to have Trump win this election, for Trump to take all
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the collapse, because there will be another financial and if
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there isn't one already underway, they'll make one
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because it's great, because then you know, we have easy to do.
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When you have a crisis, you can print more money, do all the
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things you need to do. We need a financial reset, we need to
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blame it all on Trump and Republicans. So that in four
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years, everybody will be saying, please give us Joe back
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anything, but this isn't horrible. Our lives are not
21:29
worthy. And he did it in the following manner.
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Unknown: I think it's a mistake to assume that everything's
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hunky dory. And you know, and when stock markets rough, it's
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kind of like this little drug we all feel like, it's just great,
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you know, but remember, we've had so much fiscal monetary
21:43
stimulation. So I'm a little more on the cautious side.
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Adam Curry: I love how he laughs about that. It's like, we got so
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much money was great.
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Unknown: But remember, we've had so much fiscal monetary
21:55
stimulation. So I'm a little more on the cautious side, that
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we are facing a lot of things in 2024 or 25. And you mentioned
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Ukraine, the terrorist activity Israel, the Red Sea,
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quantitative tightening, which I still question if we understand
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exactly how that works. I don't think we do have QE actually
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work, what the effect of negative zero rates was folding.
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And obviously, the politics, and then the Ukrainian wars
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affecting oil, gas, food migration. So you have all these
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very powerful forces that are going to be affecting us in 24,
22:29
and 25. So if I was the government, I would be preparing
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for I'm going to do about that, assuming things aren't good. And
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I just also want to point out, I wish the Democrats would think a
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little more carefully when they talk about Magga. You know, and
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if you travel this country, then the cruise is unbelievable. We
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took a bus trip this year, and Leslie picker was on Spokane and
22:49
Boise and volcanoes growing, they're hungry to grow. They're
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innovating. It's, it's everywhere. It's not just
22:56
Silicon Valley. So we've got this great hand. But when people
23:00
say Magga, they're actually looking at people voting for
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Trump, and they think they're voting and they're basically
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scapegoating them, that you are like him. And I don't think
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they're voting for Trump because family values. If you just take
23:12
a step back, be honest. He's kind of right about NATO. Right.
23:15
But immigration, kinda, he grew the economy quite well, trade.
23:20
Tax Reform worked. He was right about some of China. I don't I
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don't like what he did. I said China made me I don't like how
23:27
he said things Mexico, I don't like, but he wasn't wrong about
23:30
these critical issues. And that's why they voted for him.
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And I think people should be a little more respectful of our
23:36
fellow citizens. And when you guys have people up here, you
23:39
should always ask the why not like it's a binary thing. You're
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supporting Trump, you're not support Trump. Why use it's
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John C Dvorak: hard to hate 75 million of your fellow
23:47
Americans. It's, I agree done.
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Unknown: And you know, the Democrats have done a pretty
23:50
good job with the deplorables plugging on their Bibles and
23:54
their beer and their guns. I mean, really, like, can we just
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stop that stuff and actually grow up and other people respect
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and listen to a little bit? I do think the economy will affect I
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think this this negative talk about Magga is going to hurt
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Biden's electoral campaign.
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Adam Curry: Get let Trump have it all. Let him have it. Stop
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it. Let Maga win. Give it to them. It'll be great because
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it's not going to be good. What's happening? That's what I
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heard.
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John C Dvorak: And that's an interesting interpretation. I
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think you could have heard that. Well,
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Adam Curry: I feel that and I have a short NPR clip here. I
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feel that it is the word is out. The message is in is like the
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Iowa caucus. 1% of the vote was in, in the media who always
24:42
determines our elections, called it for Trump. This This was
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surprising to me. The New York Times called it for Trump within
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one minute. NPR was surprised too. So
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Unknown: what's it all mean? For that we turn to NPR Senior
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Political Editor and correspondent Dominika Montana
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Oh, hey there, Dominica. Hey, Mary Louise Hay, depress made a
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swift call made quite an early call last night and the call was
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that Trump had an insurmountable lead. What stood out to you
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about last night? Well, surprises
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can happen in politics, and we should prepare ourselves for
25:16
those. But this result was not one of them. I mean, I was
25:19
surprised, though, at how quickly the race was called. I
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mean, just half an hour after voting began at and other
25:25
networks were able to do that because of the overwhelming lead
25:28
that Trump had in the entrance polls that were taken throughout
25:31
the state. And then that matched some key precincts. And that's
25:34
all that was really needed for them to have that kind of
25:36
confidence level. In the end, it was Trump with more than 50% of
25:40
the vote exactly what polling had shown for months and months.
25:44
Adam Curry: I thought it was very suspicious. Calling it for
25:48
Trump with 1% of the vote that also skews people who still
25:51
hadn't voted. Noses
25:54
John C Dvorak: caucuses is no voting. Well,
25:57
Adam Curry: okay, it's caucus and yes, I don't know. It's to
26:01
me, it was very suspicious that all of a sudden they're like,
26:04
oh, it's Trump. Didn't you think so? I
26:08
John C Dvorak: didn't see it that way. Personally, it was
26:10
obvious he was gonna do that. And he just wanted to get out of
26:12
there and go home. damn cold to be out. By
26:15
Adam Curry: the way, the there was this open letter to the
26:20
Davos here, proud to pay more. Our message at Davos is simple.
26:26
elected leaders must tax us the super rich, we'd be proud to pay
26:31
more. So a whole bunch of rich douchebags sign this open
26:36
letter. And I would just like to remind them if you go to
26:42
Treasury direct.gov The Bureau of the Fiscal Service is happy
26:47
to accept gifts donated to the United States government to
26:49
reduce the debt held by the public.
26:51
John C Dvorak: This is true, you are the it is your app. So save
26:54
all joined in, I guess the whole center money and you think
26:58
Adam Curry: it's just performative in 2022. A whopping
27:02
$180,310.32 was donated voluntarily. This should be
27:09
billions this year.
27:12
John C Dvorak: You think these blowhards
27:14
Adam Curry: proud to pay more? Yeah. Oh yes, please. We're
27:17
proud to pay more to tackle extreme inequality, proud to pay
27:21
more to help reduce the cost of living for working people.
27:25
John C Dvorak: Are there any names on there that you can tell
27:27
us? Yes,
27:29
Adam Curry: We the undersigned the funniest one is Brian Cox,
27:33
who plays a billionaire on television in billions are no
27:39
secession secession as a whole bunch of people have been
27:43
there's hundreds of people here. I presume they're all
27:48
billionaires. I don't know maybe
27:49
John C Dvorak: it was done in just that because I think you
27:54
right, they should be donating their excess funds to Treasury
27:59
Adam Curry: Todd Oppenheimer sounds like a rich dude. There's
28:04
no Jamie Dimon on here. I'll tell you that. He's not he's not
28:07
stupid. But yeah, I just want to remind everybody, you you can,
28:10
you can definitely, you can definitely help us out. Just
28:13
donate your money right now. I will. Thank you.
28:18
John C Dvorak: So to change topics a bit, I want to do a mia
28:23
culpa for myself. Oh, to say got two or three notes. Nasty notes.
28:28
Adam Curry: Yeah. Can you get to read up?
28:30
John C Dvorak: Now I don't need to read it Micah summarize. And
28:34
the nasty notes evolved revolved around the Zoomer who quit her
28:39
job? Or who got fired? Yes. From Cloudflare. Yes. And what's of
28:47
importance? I'll just summarize. Well, I also gotten asked, you
28:51
know, for some woman who just called me a douchebag, for even
28:55
Adam Curry: I think she actually said, that's 30 minutes of my
28:58
life, I'll never get back again.
29:02
John C Dvorak: It was a nine minute clip. So I don't know how
29:03
she does her calculation. She's lucky to have a job herself.
29:06
Where so? One guy pointed out, one of our producers seemed
29:14
extremely knowledgeable about sales. And he pointed out that
29:18
this bullcrap, because all his say most of his sales close
29:22
during that holiday period between Thanksgiving and New
29:26
Year's. So she was full of shit that she couldn't close these
29:30
deals during the most profitable time of the year. And I was
29:33
thinking about when he said that you read that note. I said to
29:37
myself, you know, that's funny. I did. I didn't recognize that
29:40
fact. Because all of our income for this show pretty much shows
29:45
up in that same period.
29:47
Adam Curry: Yes. And so yeah, yeah, you're right. So that's
29:51
the closing
29:51
John C Dvorak: time of the year. So this woman had no legs to
29:54
stand on and regarding this complaint, when that's when she
29:57
should have closed, not the He's falling apart. And then he had a
30:01
number of breakdowns and the way she didn't close and some of the
30:04
details of her incompetence, and he went on about it. And it was
30:08
very, I took that one to heart. That was a good note. And then
30:11
somebody else pointed out, which I thought was off. Yeah, there's
30:14
that because I had made such a fuss about this is the new new
30:18
this is gonna happen a lot because we were going to record
30:20
these calls. And then he reminded me because I know this,
30:24
from my experience, that when you when you get fired, or get
30:29
laid off, you get a bonus, usually of cash money, if you
30:32
sign a nondisclosure. Yeah, as you walk out the door. Yeah. So
30:37
in other words, you can you hate the company, not because they
30:40
just fired, you're there, you're gone by, oh, here's five grand
30:44
design this thing, you can take this check home, and but you
30:48
have to shut up, you can start bitching and moaning about the
30:50
company. So that precludes the idea that everyone is going to
30:55
be doing this because in fact, especially in tech, everyone's
30:59
is bought off. But NDAs they can't do it. In fact, she
31:04
obviously refused to do that. And she just left in a huff so.
31:08
So I was my interpretation of the entire scene, I consider to
31:11
be completely erroneous, if that helps anyone.
31:15
Adam Curry: I also received an interesting note from one of our
31:17
knights. He says I've fired over 1000 people in my career, I was
31:21
doing exactly what Clooney was doing in the moving in the
31:24
movie, including living in Dallas and flying American
31:26
Airlines. If they wanted to avoid paying more for
31:30
unemployment insurance, and we're firing for cause they
31:33
should have been better organized, he says, But what
31:35
I've done the way I did it, we usually start by saying you
31:38
being let go with no cause and will be eligible for
31:41
unemployment. There's no point in telling someone why they are
31:44
being let go unless you are doing for cause and will fight
31:47
unemployment benefits. He says the single biggest layoff I've
31:50
ever done, I fired five years ago, I fired 76 people on the
31:54
same zoom call. Man that's cold.
31:57
John C Dvorak: That's a good one. That's cold.
32:00
Adam Curry: That was five years ago. One other point of note,
32:04
because we questioned whether the stacked ranking was a part
32:08
of Salesforce. And we also brought up SAP one of our
32:13
producers who works for SAP says I know for a fact our software
32:17
is not able to do stacked ranking, because we do ranking
32:20
ourselves on a spreadsheet. I've never had to stack rank fire
32:25
anyone but when we're talking about who's getting bonuses and
32:27
salary increases, we do it every year, we have a spreadsheet
32:30
sought out the team and update the software from the
32:33
spreadsheet. So apparently you know that you know I would start
32:37
I would I would start looking for a job but Salesforce if I
32:41
were you SAP seems to be behind. Behind. And it was Bambi Bambi
32:48
is the company that you call for to for HR to fire people. Oh,
32:55
Bambi ba M glam li cute Bambi BAM delay. So
32:59
John C Dvorak: now that's true. I think that straightens out.
33:02
Adam Curry: We're incredibly sorry for the loss of life. So
33:06
sorry.
33:08
John C Dvorak: Really learned something?
33:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, that we that your your stuff is no good. No
33:15
good. And
33:16
John C Dvorak: my clips suck,
33:17
Adam Curry: you're hurting people. That, you know, I want
33:20
to remind people because we've been doing our value for value
33:23
segments at the end, which looking at the minute by minute,
33:27
we can track some of that with podcasting 2.0 Not person but we
33:31
can see. It's not really such a drop off other than there's a
33:35
drop off. But I was surprised by this note from one of our
33:40
producers as I first of all must express my opinion. And my
33:43
appreciation and affection for the show have had many people in
33:46
mouth include my wife and two daughters, aged 14 and 27. I've
33:49
made anonymous donations and attended several nogen meetups,
33:53
I must point out something that you may not have considered a
33:55
concern to the donation section. It may be hard to believe most
33:59
women don't want to hear about boob donations. My wife and
34:03
daughters no longer listen to the show with me because of the
34:06
awkwardness. And it goes on to say you just understand that
34:11
they don't want to listen to locker room talk about
34:13
objectifying body parts of women. And I had to pause there
34:17
for a second and say they have no problem with clips about
34:20
babies being beheaded and ripped out of wombs and all the other
34:24
stuff that's going on in the world, but the word boob and and
34:28
I would say Sir Kevin McLaughlin honors this part of the female
34:32
anatomy that somehow is enough for them to say I can't listen
34:36
to this show anymore.
34:40
John C Dvorak: Well, I thought that was a net to be very
34:42
specious. What my argument is juvenile in that regard. What my
34:48
argument is no, the women's argument? Yes. I think that they
34:53
are being silly. To put it mildly silly.
34:59
Adam Curry: Oh, I in all the years that Kevin McLaughlin has
35:02
been doing this this is the first complaint I've ever
35:04
received.
35:05
John C Dvorak: Well I'm sure there's other people that don't
35:07
like it. I think that I think
35:09
Adam Curry: that your daughters and your wife just hate the show
35:11
and they
35:12
John C Dvorak: know where what state are they in I like to know
35:15
in that state I do not know I do. Or country
35:19
Adam Curry: I think America but I think it's just they're sick
35:24
and tired of listening to your podcasts and they use that as a
35:28
as a as an excuse.
35:31
John C Dvorak: I believe that to be correct. You can listen to
35:35
this right here. People are looking for excuses not to
35:38
donate and people are looking for excuses to donate. You have
35:42
to give them excuses to donate it now. Everything becomes an
35:47
excuse not to donate ended the show itself if you don't like
35:50
the show. Yeah. Yeah, you can point a finger at the boob
35:54
donation and which is which is playful. You don't enjoy
35:59
playfulness. You're taking things a little too seriously.
36:03
Is this show is not for you? No. Because really playful, playful
36:09
show. In fact, I have
36:13
Adam Curry: no agenda. It's a playful show.
36:15
John C Dvorak: It is a playful, playful show.
36:17
Adam Curry: I like that we're a playful show.
36:20
John C Dvorak: So I listened to just got caught up in when a
36:23
Trump speeches and I listened to most of it. I didn't get to hear
36:28
the whole thing. But I do have Do I have a mini or do not have
36:34
a visiting DC I have I have? Oh, here it is Trump. Yeah. So I got
36:38
a couple of his his bits out new bits is fish stick they uses his
36:44
new some of his new material that is used in his set
36:49
Adam Curry: this back. That's a great set. Man. That was great
36:52
set. So
36:54
John C Dvorak: I just want to play these two because they one
36:55
of them was is new, new standby. But the first one I just thought
37:00
was kind of cute. A very short clip is just throws it in this
37:03
Trump on visiting Washington DC. But there's not
37:06
Unknown: going to be people show up. People come in from your
37:09
state. They want to go see Washington. So they come in from
37:12
New Hampshire, they walk down the road, they end up getting
37:14
shot.
37:19
Adam Curry: They get shot in the nation's capitol.
37:22
John C Dvorak: You go to Washington, you get shot. Now,
37:25
the funny thing is about that particular bit is that he knows
37:28
it is it is you know, he knows he's doing jokes. And so he kind
37:34
of blew that one up because they use the word shot and they
37:37
pulled it back as fast as he could say he couldn't hear it at
37:40
the very beginning. If you listen to the very beginning, he
37:45
says he uses the word shot, go to Washington DC to get shot,
37:47
and then he kind of chokes over it. So he knows what he's doing
37:52
up there. Yeah. Oh, of course. He
37:54
Adam Curry: knows what he's doing. Now. Here's
37:56
John C Dvorak: the bit that he did. He's done this one all
37:58
throughout Iowa. And he used to do it. He did it the first time
38:02
he did. He got a big reaction from the MSNBC and others. So
38:07
he's trying he wants people to die to vote for him. So
38:11
Unknown: even if you think and I joked I said, if your husband
38:14
sick as a dog, get him out of bed, darling Jack Jack. Yeah,
38:19
yes, yes. I'm so sick. Don't. Jack, get your ass out of bed.
38:24
You're voting for your star. It doesn't matter. As long as he
38:29
gets that voted. He kicks the bucket after that. It's okay. He
38:32
served his country. I'll write him a letter. Jack, thank you
38:35
for your service. Jack. Thank you for writing the letter.
38:39
Jack, thank you for your service.
38:42
Adam Curry: He's deplorable. I can't believe is. He's the
38:46
worst. This is what's interesting, because he does
38:51
this type of stick. Let me see I have it here. And I'm sure you
38:54
saw some of this. I've just a short couple of short ones. But
38:59
the MSNBC folks just went off the rails about well, he's
39:04
playing to the white Christians. Yeah, that's exactly what the
39:08
white Christians want to hear. We want to hear about getting
39:11
shot. That's exactly right. Joy read.
39:14
Unknown: But you know, I feel like the important sort of data
39:17
point data point, you know, Steve talks about it a lot.
39:20
He's, he's gonna probably talk about a little more tonight is
39:23
that these these are white Christians, that this is a state
39:26
that is overrepresented, or over represented by white Christians
39:29
that are going to participate in these caucuses, especially
39:32
tonight. I today earlier today reached out to Robert Jones,
39:35
Robin Jones, from Robert Religion Research Institute,
39:38
knowing that we were going to talk about Iowa and this is a
39:41
hyper evangelical white state. And he said the following to me
39:45
Iowa is about 61% White Christian, the country as a
39:48
whole is approximately 41%, white Christian. And if I were
39:52
talking about evangelical white Christians, and he said the
39:54
following, because I asked him, what do they get out of
39:58
supporting Donald Trump because he keeps him Losing, he keeps
40:00
delivering losses and losses, losses. And he said the
40:03
following. They see themselves as the rightful inheritors of
40:07
this country. And Trump has promised to give it back to
40:11
them. All the things that we think about, about electability
40:15
about, you know, what are people gaming out or none of that
40:18
matters when you believe that God has given you this country
40:22
that it is yours, and that everyone who is not a white
40:25
conservative Christian is a is a fraudulent American is a less a
40:32
less real American than you don't care about electability.
40:35
Adam Curry: I gotta find a better church. We're not talking
40:37
about that in our church. But I want to hear that God gave this
40:41
country to us the white Christians.
40:43
John C Dvorak: Wow, does she just dream this stuff out of
40:45
thin air? Oh, no, this to me, this
40:47
Adam Curry: was an ongoing topic. This is Yeah. Man,
40:51
Supercuts
40:52
John C Dvorak: of the of this claim that Trump get even
40:56
there's another, I should have gotten these clips. There was a
40:59
series of clips, all taken from MSNBC saying that even though he
41:03
was broke pretty much every record for Iowa caucuses. Now
41:08
Adam Curry: he lost. Oh, I didn't hear that. Well. Yeah,
41:12
John C Dvorak: he lost because nobody showed there wasn't
41:14
enough people to vote. It was really a losers. It's a surprise
41:17
that the numbers were so low. What he did to 51% was it's
41:21
amazing even got that much. Lost. He was a loser. Alex,
41:28
people are in clinically insane over at MSNBC.
41:32
Adam Curry: I don't even know I need to I'm sure the ratings are
41:35
doing better. Because, you know, people need this. They they need
41:39
to get their fix of Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, that's
41:43
right, man. It's the Christians only the white Christians. By
41:46
the way, the black Christians pretty radical in this country.
41:50
John C Dvorak: If you're much more radical than white Chris.
41:52
Yes, of course.
41:54
Adam Curry: Let's listen to Alex Wagner, who was supposed to be
41:56
more serious than a man. There was so many cool memes of joy
42:01
read with that white hair do that. She's got the white legs.
42:04
John C Dvorak: He's a Trump hair. Yes. A Trump.
42:06
Adam Curry: earpiece. Oh, there was a lot of that. A lot of
42:09
generic AI stuff. I loved it.
42:11
Unknown: I Steve was pointing out the evangelical vote, which
42:14
I've been fascinated by and recently,
42:16
Adam Curry: what exactly is the evangelical vote Joe? Just so I
42:19
understand, because they throw this term out there all the
42:22
time. But is that a
42:24
John C Dvorak: voting bloc is considered the evangelical vote.
42:29
Yeah, that stems from mostly the south. And it's supposed to be
42:36
it's like the black vote. It's enough to
42:39
Adam Curry: prop up but what is an evangelical and
42:43
John C Dvorak: evangelize evangelical? Helped me Okay,
42:46
evangelical in my mind is a Christian fundamentalist that
42:51
comes out of the Pentecostal and mostly the Pentecostal church.
42:56
Okay.
42:57
Adam Curry: Oh, all right. We don't have one of those here. I
43:01
gotta find one weeks because there's gotta be there's no, I
43:04
don't think there's a Pentecostal. We have a lot of
43:06
churches I'd be I'd be stunned. Now. A lot of Lutheran churches
43:09
around here, Lutheran. Themed reporters
43:12
Unknown: have been talking about the way in which the Trump
43:14
coalition the Maga coalition has ads coalition devoured the
43:18
evangelical coalition, kind of a case study in that Michelle
43:22
Goldberg talks about it. Tim Alberta's new book talks about
43:25
it. David French has talked about this phenomenon. And if
43:27
you look at those entry polls, you know, as Steve points out,
43:32
55% of white born again or evangelicals are going through
43:36
Trump. That is a that is an exponential increase from 2016.
43:41
Do you consider yourself part of the Magga movement? 78% going
43:45
for Trump. That's not hugely surprising. But the overlap
43:48
there I think is what I mean is what is so remarkable about this
43:51
moment in American politics right? By van der Platz, right
43:55
who is a kingmaker in Iowa politics an evangelical and very
44:00
much a mouthpiece for the evangelical vote
44:02
Adam Curry: or want to be an evangelical kingmaker. This is
44:06
make you want to be in on this. This sounds like
44:09
Unknown: fun Iowa endorses Don Ron DeSantis. It clearly does
44:14
not matter. Evangelical America is behind Donald Troy in
44:18
John C Dvorak: a minute hold on a second.
44:22
Adam Curry: She listening to herself clearly. Now she's
44:24
reading the prompter. She's got
44:27
John C Dvorak: this guy who is the evangelical Pied Piper king
44:32
maker. And he's all in for DeSantis and DeSantis. Just you
44:36
know, you know pretty much bid bid the bid to dust. Yeah, in
44:42
that election. So what was she talking about? At the event Joe
44:46
did were there just a leaderless cult what she's saying
44:51
Adam Curry: is you just feel an airtime maybe you want to hear
44:53
more
44:54
John C Dvorak: details filling Yeah, back it up a little bit
44:57
Unknown: Santas. It clearly does not matter. evangelical America
45:01
is behind Donald Trump. And that sort of gets to the roots of
45:04
like what Trump ism is now. You know, we were told in 2016 that
45:08
evangelicals made their beds with Trump because they wanted
45:11
to have a Supreme Court that was modeled in an evangelical
45:15
conservative model. Well, they got that but if evangelically
45:18
Adam Curry: conservative model, is that a new Tesla, I need I
45:22
need some of this
45:23
Unknown: seems like their affiliation with both and take a
45:26
look at this court they're
45:27
John C Dvorak: talking about, except for Amy Comey buried or
45:30
we're only one is the only one she's the only one the rest of
45:34
them are Catholic or Jewish. But Amy Kony Barrett, as I have I
45:41
have the Chevron deference clips. Yeah, I'm excited because
45:43
that's coming up. I'm excited. She's like, you know, she's a
45:47
pretty much of a long she's one of those people that over
45:50
studies have been she's not falling in line with anything
45:53
Unknown: that was modeled in an evangelical conservative model.
45:56
Well, they got that but it seems like their affiliation with
46:00
Trump and Maga is in runs deeper than that. And, you know, David
46:03
French has articulated this point beautifully. It's, it's,
46:06
it's the Trump is in some ways become religion for a certain
46:09
set of Americans.
46:14
Adam Curry: We're singing songs in church about him,
46:16
Unknown: and especially for evangelicals, that it's not
46:18
about the virtue anymore. It's about the vise that Trump
46:21
expresses. And I think you see that playing out in Iowa where
46:25
the evangelical vote is key. It is central to what is going to
46:29
unfold tonight. And it is very much a group of people that that
46:34
find that Trump is, in some ways the Second Coming. Trump
46:40
Adam Curry: is the Trump upon the cross is
46:42
Unknown: taking out ads, like the one that came out, I think a
46:45
week ago called god named Trump, there is a distinctly religious
46:50
undertone to his campaigning nationally. And and I think you
46:55
see that playing out in Iowa, right? I mean, right. Your
46:58
numbers do not lie, Rachel. And I find it really a spectacularly
47:03
interesting thing, if not, downright curious. Now,
47:07
Adam Curry: this is interesting, because I don't think this was
47:10
an ad created for television. She just kind of said that,
47:13
like, Oh, right. made this ad where God made Trump. Have you
47:17
seen this? This video? God made Trump? No, I've never seen it.
47:21
Okay, now, it is a takeoff. It's Paul Harvey. A bit. I don't
47:27
know. I I was not around for the original. The play you start
47:33
with? Well, it's a it's a takeoff on an orig. I don't know
47:38
there was an original Paul Harvey, God made something,
47:42
listen to it. And we can stop because you'll probably
47:44
recognize the cadence and everything. And this is
47:47
something that I think someone else made maybe, you know, the
47:52
white Christians for Trump
47:54
John C Dvorak: movement, some main guy, anybody so
47:57
Adam Curry: generic AI is good.
48:06
Unknown: And on June 14 1946, God looked down on his planned
48:10
paradise and said, I need a caretaker. So God gave us Trump.
48:15
God said, I need somebody willing to get up before dawn,
48:19
Adam Curry: I think it originally was God made the
48:20
farmer I think that what that's what the original was God made
48:24
the farmer, fix this
48:25
Unknown: country, work all day, fight the Marxist each suffer,
48:29
then go to the Oval Office and stay past midnight and a meeting
48:33
of the heads of state. So God made Trump I need somebody with
48:37
arms strong enough to rustle the deep state and yet gentle enough
48:41
to deliver his own grandchild. Somebody to ruffle the feathers,
48:46
tame cantankerous World Economic Forum. Come home hungry. Have to
48:51
wait until the First Lady is done with lunch with friends.
48:54
Then tell the ladies to be sure and come back real soon. And
48:58
mean it. So God gave us Trump? I need somebody who can shape an
49:03
axe. But we okay. You
49:05
John C Dvorak: got all right here it hit this. Yeah, if you
49:08
go to Paul Harvey, God made you get there. God made a farmer. So
49:12
I'll just
49:13
Adam Curry: play a little bit. Yeah, this is
49:16
Unknown: and on the eighth day. God looked down on his plan
49:22
paradise and said I need a caretaker. So God made a farmer.
49:27
Yeah, there it is. God made a farmer.
49:32
John C Dvorak: Okay, so there's a mediocre copy of that. And now
49:36
that I hear the voice is not even that great. No, Paul
49:38
Harvey's he had a tremendous set of pipes. They put Paul Harvey
49:45
Parra Javi what had been doing these little radio snippets
49:48
forever and was the Christian nationalists Magga guy I don't
49:53
know that he was any thing. I had to look it up but but I
49:56
remember the moment he was definitely a conservative
49:59
character. And I remember the moment where Hewitt at 60
50:05
minutes decided to put him on the show to add a little balance
50:09
that lasted all of like two shows. Because the regulars on
50:15
that show are a bunch of you know, lefties that has to CBS
50:20
people. Yeah. And they just wouldn't have it. They did I
50:23
think they they made his life miserable and poor
50:26
Adam Curry: Paul. And here's the rest of the story. Paul Harvey,
50:31
John C Dvorak: I'm sure he got a play a pay or play deal which
50:35
netted him some sort of care. So
50:37
Adam Curry: I think this is when it comes to Democrats. I can
50:41
just say it now in America is the division has become so and
50:44
these are political people. I mean, I'm not talking about
50:47
people just vote left but the political people Washoe County,
50:52
Washoe County, Nevada. I think it's Nevada, isn't it? Wash him.
50:55
Yeah. Wash. Oh, that's Democrat country, right? I don't know. I
51:01
think so. Don't they vote blue or they vote blue. That blue
51:04
name
51:04
John C Dvorak: is mixed area to get Nevada's mixed is pretty
51:07
much down the middle. So
51:08
Adam Curry: they had the county commission meeting and they
51:12
opened up with the consecration. Thank you
51:14
Unknown: for letting us here. My name is Jason I am an organizer
51:17
and founder of Reno satanic. And I'm here to give the invocation
51:22
today invoking again in nom de de no stress, say tennis looser,
51:27
fatty X LLC, in the name of the eternal rebel against high
51:31
radical authority in the spirit of your nature of the natural
51:35
world, the freedoms of thought and expression on prejudice,
51:39
intellectual inquiry, economics and social progress to bring
51:44
influence and guiding actions of nobility and justice to the
51:48
decisions made in this chamber today. To act with might in the
51:53
undertaking of responsibility that may lay ahead of this body
51:57
before us today. The New Age is dawning that these decisions
52:00
will play a role in for our liberation for here and now is
52:05
our day of joy. Here and now is our opportunity. May we seize
52:10
this glorious day and its enchanting nights to celebrate
52:13
the wonders of the natural world. As we are all part of its
52:18
boundless mysteries, and the spirit of the unconquerable sun,
52:22
the bringer of light and knowledge we say Shem ham for OS
52:26
hail satan.
52:29
John C Dvorak: All right. Okay, you win the show. We have tannic
52:36
ritual in front of the Washoe County, whatever group this was
52:41
planning commission or the mission. Yes. So this guy comes
52:45
out and they let it they let him do it. Of course. What is wrong
52:49
with these? Idiots? They're
52:51
Adam Curry: Satanists. Not today. Satan, we mock you. We
52:55
mock you. Oh, my goodness. What they should do? Hey, where's my
53:01
generic AI doing? And Satan created Biden. That will be
53:04
good. Who that?
53:07
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying that'd be a topper.
53:09
Adam Curry: That'd be a great topper. Yeah. All of this. All
53:12
of this, of course was really to detract from what I thought was
53:14
an outstanding rant from Vivek. Kind of say it right, because
53:20
you know, he's going for that VP slot. Vivek. I think a lot of
53:24
people would like Vivek, SVP, I doubt he's going to be vice
53:28
president. No, no way. But this was Trump behind him, smirking
53:32
and laughing and smiling was a great brand. And then
53:35
John C Dvorak: they tried to hug and they couldn't do it. By his
53:40
brother, by the way, just before we get to that clip, I wondered
53:43
because I played those twos Trump clips about, he's also
53:46
doing it unfortunate. There's no real clip for it. But he's also
53:49
now part of his act. He does Biden up on the stage can't
53:54
can't get off the stage, shaking hands with nobody and then
53:58
bumbling around and walking into a set is great. He does a whole
54:02
shtick on Biden trying to get off this off this stage. Here we
54:07
go. We believe
54:08
Unknown: ideals still exist. This man is going to be your
54:11
next president. revive them. E pluribus unum from many one. And
54:19
you know how we're doing it. We're doing it by seeking the
54:22
truth at every step of the way. There are two genders in this
54:27
country. That is the truth. Fossil fuels are a requirement
54:35
for human prosperity drill, frack, burn coal embrace nuclear
54:40
energy. reverse racism is racism. And open border is not a
54:45
border. Parents determined the education of their children. The
54:50
nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to
54:53
mankind. Capitalism lifts us up from poverty. There are three
54:58
branches of government In the United States not for and the US
55:03
Constitution is the strongest and greatest guarantor of
55:07
freedom in human history. That is the truth.
55:11
We fight for the truth. Fantastic.
55:16
Adam Curry: And more people are starting to do this this
55:18
boldness we're seeing it everywhere. Now people are no
55:22
longer afraid of speaking against the woke stuff. There's
55:26
just, I mean, it's everywhere now. It's everywhere. So they
55:30
all this satanic trans Maoists stuff is gonna fall apart it's
55:35
not working dei corporations everywhere quietly changing
55:39
their policy. This is not the way to go anymore. But it was
55:44
that that no one wants to fly United anymore. You know, the
55:48
CEO dresses up in drag and like now Tinos like I'm gonna fly
55:52
she's flying to front and floor I'm not flying United States and
55:55
my flying it is people are nuts. So interesting. Oh, yes. The bud
56:02
light effect it that was that's definitely part of it.
56:07
Definitely, and then I won't play a clip because it's just
56:10
full of expletives. But the EU is a UFC fighter who got asked
56:14
by some Canadian woke journalist. Now how do you feel
56:18
about the trans community and you know in Bud Light sponsoring
56:21
the UFC but and he just went off? Just went off is crazy. You
56:27
know what, you know, in America. This is for all you foreigners
56:30
listening you foreigners that a lot of you listen. In America,
56:33
we still it was gone for a long time. And for a while there, it
56:37
seemed like only the Russians had humor. But you know, the
56:41
Russians would do funny stuff. This is before Ukraine. And they
56:45
had humor and there was the humor that we used to have as
56:48
Americans. We'd make fun of ourselves. We love a good joke.
56:51
We love a double entendre. We this is why the boobs thing is
56:56
very is you know, we love boobs is an American thing. I guess.
57:00
Although I think other countries love boobs to Fort Wayne,
57:04
Indiana. They have a they have a building and they had a poll
57:09
amongst the citizens. What are we going to name this thing? And
57:13
they want to name it after a famous Fort Wayne politician. I
57:17
think Harry balls be ALS. And they held the poll and the
57:22
results are in a former
57:24
Unknown: Fort Wayne mayor is getting some national attention.
57:27
1000s of people voted online to name the new city county
57:30
building in his honor,
57:31
but that probably won't happen because of his name. NewsChannel
57:35
fifteens Don Austin is here to explain, Well,
57:38
how they're marked. The people voted and the top picks so far
57:41
with more than 10,000 votes is the hairy balls Government
57:44
Center, named after one of the city's longest serving mayors,
57:47
but not everyone's on board with that name.
57:50
Harry bales apparently was a great mayor. That's what I'm
57:52
hearing if you read the comments actually people are very serious
57:55
about what he did as mayor the family was you know, it's
57:59
part of our history. I think it's part of the history we're
58:00
proud of
58:01
to pick the new name for the building people went over to
58:03
feedback fort wayne.org They made suggestions and voted the
58:07
overwhelming front runner was the hairy balls government
58:11
senator
58:12
Adam Curry: of course this is who we are we're simple people
58:16
but we'd like a good joke we want we want
58:19
John C Dvorak: the guy's name was hairy balls what he is
58:21
supposed to do.
58:23
Adam Curry: We want it to be called the hairy balls building
58:25
everybody wants that. This is who we are. This is where we are
58:33
John C Dvorak: joy you giggly glee?
58:37
Adam Curry: Yes Glee, Glee. Harry bone admits missed all of
58:43
the horrible things in the world. We got Satanists. Yeah.
58:47
Satanism
58:48
John C Dvorak: before meeting this thing is too much.
58:52
Adam Curry: Give us some hairy balls to make us feel better
58:54
please plays
58:57
John C Dvorak: are you gonna want to feel bad live in Chicago
58:59
play this frozen Tesla clip. Oh
59:02
Adam Curry: my god, this this frozen Tesla clip was all I
59:05
mean, there were at least 15 different versions of
59:09
John C Dvorak: this bunch of dead robots out here.
59:14
Unknown: Did Teslas pack the parking lot at this Tesla super
59:17
charging station in Oak Brook have seen mirrored in other
59:20
supercharging stations around the Chicago area. And it's it's
59:23
crazy is this is a disaster series. with temperatures
59:28
falling into the negative double digits. These charging ports
59:31
have stopped charging, leaving many Tesla owners stranded here
59:35
in long lines since Sunday. Nothing
59:38
no juice is put on 0%. And this was like three hours this
59:41
morning being out here after eight hours yesterday
59:43
as you've been charging. No not at all. It's just isn't working.
59:46
Adam Curry: And it's just frozen. And so I'm now going to
59:49
tow it to the justice service center because that's my only
59:52
option at this point. Oh man, I got better clips than that. Come
59:56
on. Come I like to
59:57
John C Dvorak: know why every black guy in Chicago lenses
1:00:00
Tesla. How does that happen? Well, there
1:00:02
Adam Curry: was one of these guys who was an Uber drivers
1:00:04
like nope, not anymore. Another guys like the handles, you know
1:00:07
how they recess in the Tesla? They weren't they were frozen
1:00:11
shots. They weren't Pauling.
1:00:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that book comes out I couldn't I couldn't
1:00:15
Adam Curry: open my my car with the app.
1:00:19
Unknown: Electric vehicles may save drivers on the cost of
1:00:21
filling up. But this winter growing frustrations for drivers
1:00:25
stuck waiting at charging stations, but you still
1:00:28
have to wait for those other cars to get through charger
1:00:31
didn't even get the charge.
1:00:34
Uber driver Marcus Campbell says he spent hours this week
1:00:37
charging his car after freezing temperatures swept across
1:00:40
Chicago,
1:00:41
making no money and time was money.
1:00:43
The problem the cars run on lithium batteries which can take
1:00:47
longer to charge and cold temperatures, you may even need
1:00:50
to charge more often. According to AAA, the average electric
1:00:54
vehicles driving range decreases by 41%. When the temperature
1:00:58
outside dips to 20 degrees and when the cars heater or AC is on
1:01:04
for each electric vehicle model the EPA list of mileage but
1:01:08
experts say that number can be misleading.
1:01:11
We've seen that that is wrong on day one, and doesn't account for
1:01:17
weather variance. So EVs get less range in the extreme cold
1:01:22
and they get a little bit less range in the extreme heat.
1:01:25
Experts
1:01:26
say especially when it's cold drivers should keep their
1:01:28
vehicles charged overnight. Ideally in a garage and below
1:01:33
20%. If the battery drops to zero, the car will have to be
1:01:37
towed and possibly repaired. In Chicago, some Tow Truck
1:01:41
businesses getting a boost. Berg says he's been busy in the cold,
1:01:46
we have seen an increase in calls from a lot of different
1:01:50
owners that have electric vehicles.
1:01:52
While some learn to weather the inconvenience for others, that
1:01:55
challenges are too much.
1:01:57
I'll be getting the gas vehicle ASAP. It's not for you. It's not
1:02:01
for me.
1:02:02
Adam Curry: I love this little guy. No response from Tesla. We
1:02:05
have a sophomore year since the yesterday afternoon, no response
1:02:09
from Tesla. So here Tesla Of course, if you read the User
1:02:15
Guide, which is right near the EULA, and the terms of service
1:02:21
if you're if you're if these people went to a super charging
1:02:24
station because of course you know hey, you can charge it in
1:02:26
40 minutes it's almost as fast as filling up with gas.
1:02:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah, if you're filling up the gas at the lowest
1:02:33
rate possible. The supercharger
1:02:36
Adam Curry: will not work if your battery is under 30%
1:02:41
Because of the supercharge the battery has to be pre
1:02:44
conditioned and warmed up so people that just don't know what
1:02:48
they're doing they don't you have to have NCOP was oh you
1:02:53
have to precondition your battery and set your GPS and you
1:02:58
know like the Watergate secretary, you know click on the
1:03:01
left button and then this is not a good idea. These cars are no
1:03:05
good then I'm not picking on Tesla. I mean all of it it all
1:03:09
of us same it's fun the whole idea is falling apart. This is
1:03:14
very bad. I
1:03:15
John C Dvorak: want to remind I wish I had the clip remind you
1:03:18
of you doing annoying and watch ruining over the bought you
1:03:22
borrowed the bankers?
1:03:24
Adam Curry: No, I was horrible. What are you talking about? I
1:03:27
owe you I'm gonna get the clip right now because I'll tell you
1:03:31
what happened. I had to I couldn't charge it at the hotel.
1:03:35
So I had to drive to the university. a&m to park in the
1:03:40
garage and take an Uber back to the hotel I'm quite sure I was
1:03:43
not booing and eyeing about how cooler oh you
1:03:46
John C Dvorak: know how to use automatic control you drive down
1:03:49
the freeway and be most Cambridge users out there get me
1:03:53
these clips
1:03:55
Adam Curry: being a.io Everybody John will be very live red
1:03:58
cheeks. I said is horrible to have read almost drove me off
1:04:03
the road. Oh mass. Yes. Wow. Wow. Yes, I remember. I do to
1:04:11
know. You remember? You don't don't get me started. Do not
1:04:17
bring it.io You will see you're in dimension d right now the
1:04:23
comeback? What did you do with John? I said what was definitely
1:04:27
cool was that was how in traffic Howard will automatically drive.
1:04:32
But all the downsides and the white knuckle of coming back the
1:04:35
next day worrying that we didn't have enough juice. I remember it
1:04:40
very well. Yes,
1:04:43
John C Dvorak: I take the time you turned on the machine was
1:04:46
when the bankers sold the car saying you couldn't take it
1:04:48
anymore. Oh man.
1:04:51
Adam Curry: Oh, man. All right. Not sorry. I have worked to do
1:04:54
it and producers don't even bother.
1:04:57
John C Dvorak: I'll find users don't listen to him. Don't
1:05:00
Adam Curry: listen, because he's right, as usual. No,
1:05:03
John C Dvorak: not Oh,
1:05:05
Adam Curry: man, I can't believe that you're turning on me like
1:05:07
this. Yeah, this is not true.
1:05:10
John C Dvorak: I'm just reminding you. I'm not turning.
1:05:13
It's not true. The I Chevron deference talking about
1:05:17
gasoline.
1:05:19
Adam Curry: The Chevron deference, does this explain
1:05:21
what Chevron deference is?
1:05:22
John C Dvorak: Yes. In fact, this is a very complete report,
1:05:24
except for the fact that comes from PBS. And it's slanted very
1:05:28
subtly, though, it's not slanted in a strong manner. But it's
1:05:32
slanted enough that I could tell. And I think I have one
1:05:36
clip that's really short, which points out part of the problem
1:05:39
and this is going up when you set it up, or I'm going to set
1:05:42
it out by this case is fine. This is about it by boat, a crew
1:05:47
of herring, herring fishermen that took this case to the
1:05:52
Supreme Court because they weren't going to put up with
1:05:54
require $700
1:05:56
Adam Curry: a day for $700 a day to have some hire some douchebag
1:06:00
to be on the show they
1:06:01
John C Dvorak: had they had to pay for it. In other words,
1:06:03
they're paying for their own inspect. It's like, it's like,
1:06:08
okay, I can the cops come by my house once in a while. Yeah, you
1:06:12
have to pay well,
1:06:13
Adam Curry: but break it down. The Chevron deference is the
1:06:17
idea that Congress writes very broad and, and laws that can be
1:06:22
interpreted and they say, You know what, the agencies can
1:06:25
interpret it, the agencies can do whatever they want. And when
1:06:28
I say
1:06:28
John C Dvorak: the eight Well, no, it was it goes beyond that
1:06:30
the agencies can make their own rule rules. Yes. Rules. Correct.
1:06:34
And that's what we're dealing with, which is the
1:06:36
administrative state. I'd work for the Ministry of State
1:06:39
myself. I have a lot of experience with this. You're a
1:06:41
part of this machine. I was Yeah. And curious. I was a
1:06:46
Democrat during that era, not this.
1:06:49
Adam Curry: Did you ever change? News?
1:06:52
John C Dvorak: Let's go with this is a good breakdown. This
1:06:55
is a five six parter. It's very short, though. Let's go with
1:06:58
Chevron deference. The Supreme
1:07:00
Unknown: Court today heard arguments about whether a group
1:07:03
of Atlanta Atlantic herring fishermen should be required to
1:07:07
pay for a costly monitoring system on their boats, or
1:07:10
whether that requirement is governmental overreach. But as
1:07:13
William Brangham reports, the outcome of this case could have
1:07:16
enormous impacts far beyond the fishing industry. At issue here
1:07:21
is what's called the Chevron deference. It's named after the
1:07:24
oil and gas company whose case created this legal precedent. It
1:07:28
says if there is a dispute over some ambiguous regulation, the
1:07:33
deference should go to the government agency whose experts
1:07:37
wrote the rule. That's what those fishermen are arguing
1:07:40
against. And they're being supported by industry groups who
1:07:43
also want to curtail regulation. If Chevron is knocked down, it
1:07:48
could up end rules governing nearly every slice of American
1:07:51
society, health care, environmental and workplace
1:07:54
protections, public education, banking, and more that
1:07:58
Adam Curry: the end the IRS,
1:08:01
John C Dvorak: all of it, every agency, lot of agencies, but the
1:08:05
way they're presenting it as though it's the end of the
1:08:07
world. And there's also a very subtle subtext here that doesn't
1:08:12
allow people to understand where the Chevron deference came from,
1:08:16
which was the which was during the Reagan administration, they
1:08:23
lowered the Reagan wanted less and less regulation. So they
1:08:27
lowered they told the Vedas to push back, no, you're not going
1:08:32
to do that you're going to do this, you're going to lower the
1:08:35
rate you're going to make the regulations more lacks are going
1:08:37
to make things easier. This lawsuits came from environmental
1:08:41
groups saying Oh, no, you can't do that. Because you know, this
1:08:45
is not good. And so they involve Chevron. Because Chevron, I
1:08:50
don't know what part of Chevron was involved. But whatever the
1:08:52
case was, this was about the relaxing of rules, not the
1:08:56
increase or craziness that's going on now.
1:08:59
Adam Curry: It wasn't irony. Good intent. Yeah. Iron. irony,
1:09:03
irony
1:09:04
John C Dvorak: is, is just is that the max with this, and does
1:09:08
never discuss. Let's go with part two. To
1:09:10
Unknown: understand what's at stake. We're joined again by NPR
1:09:13
is Carrie Johnson, who was at the court for today's arguments.
1:09:17
Carrie, thank you so much for being back again. Sticking with
1:09:21
this fishermen's case, can you explain what the arguments were
1:09:24
in their case and how Chevron was applied there.
1:09:28
These plaintiffs are a small group of fishermen based in the
1:09:31
northeastern United States. And a few years ago, the Fisheries
1:09:35
Service put forward a regulation, basically requiring
1:09:39
them to have professional observers or monitors on their
1:09:42
boats, sometimes on an overnight basis to make sure they were
1:09:45
following the rules, and decreed that they should have to pay for
1:09:49
the monitors to the tune of about $700 a day, which they say
1:09:53
is just too much money, they say was never clear that Congress
1:09:57
intended for them to have to pay and so they took This case all
1:10:00
the way to the Supreme Court arguing that the federal agency
1:10:04
here had overreached against that
1:10:06
Adam Curry: good for those genocide. Are those eco ciders?
1:10:09
Good for them?
1:10:12
John C Dvorak: Yes, this case has been bubbling in the
1:10:14
background for a while. And I believe that this is the reason
1:10:17
that for one thing, if you recall, six months to a year
1:10:22
ago, they started going after Clarence Thomas. Yeah,
1:10:25
Adam Curry: we I think we even discussed it in the context of
1:10:28
it. Yeah.
1:10:29
John C Dvorak: And so what I uncovered is the fact that this
1:10:32
all began when Clarence Thomas decided he was all in on Chevron
1:10:38
deference. He,
1:10:39
Adam Curry: ah, no. flipper, he's a flip flopper.
1:10:43
John C Dvorak: And he decided, well, maybe it is not such a
1:10:45
great thing, this Chevron deference precedent. So once he
1:10:49
once he and that changed, he's Magga.
1:10:53
Adam Curry: He's a white Christian. So
1:10:56
John C Dvorak: Christian tonight. So once he it almost is
1:11:02
upon us a perfect coincidence that when he made it clear that
1:11:05
he might be going the other way, and Chevron deference, that's
1:11:08
when they start going. Yes. Your administrative state at its
1:11:13
worst, it is nasty. It doesn't like anybody interfering into
1:11:17
what it's doing. It likes to run the show. Part three,
1:11:21
Unknown: I see. So in that case, Chevron, the ruling was that the
1:11:25
government agency wrote this rule, yes, it might be onerous
1:11:28
on the fishermen. But that's the rule. And the agency gets to
1:11:31
determine that. That's
1:11:32
right. I in the in this case, the lower courts determined that
1:11:36
it was either a reasonable or a clear mandate under the law that
1:11:41
these fishermen would have to pay. They firmly resisted that,
1:11:44
and took this case all the way up to the Supreme Court where it
1:11:47
ended up today. So you can
1:11:49
see why business interests don't like this idea of some agency
1:11:55
basically winning every toss up ball over a fight over
1:11:58
regulation. What is their broader argument about this
1:12:02
deference principle,
1:12:04
ultimately, they say that this is a matter of the executive
1:12:08
branch of the government on elected federal bureaucrats
1:12:12
taking power that should belong to the United States Congress,
1:12:15
and to some extent to federal judges, who all along have
1:12:18
interpreted the law and who can interpret these laws and these
1:12:22
regulations just fine on their own, without any input from
1:12:25
federal agencies. And they say that for many years now, almost
1:12:30
40 of them since this case was decided back in 1984. It's
1:12:35
really up ended the balance of power between the branches. And
1:12:38
it's put a lot of onus on small businesses like these fishermen
1:12:42
and others, to defend themselves against federal agencies when
1:12:47
they have a hard time winning their you know, this case, was
1:12:52
supported not just by the small fishing industries, but a number
1:12:56
of very large conservative legal foundations, groups like The Gun
1:12:59
Owners of America, a trade group for e cigarette manufacturers
1:13:04
and others, just showing how sweeping this case could be if
1:13:08
the Supreme Court ultimately decides to overrule that
1:13:11
precedent from all those years ago.
1:13:13
Adam Curry: Okay, I have a question. So when you were in
1:13:16
the government, and a Democrat Did you feel like you were
1:13:24
powerful as as a member of the deep state that you had this
1:13:29
power to, to mess around with a little guy and to boss him
1:13:34
around and tell him what to do because you're with the EPA?
1:13:37
There were definite
1:13:38
John C Dvorak: Well, we were that good regional pollution
1:13:42
operator that's
1:13:43
Adam Curry: even better. So you were the little regional guy but
1:13:45
still had the Chevron deference
1:13:47
John C Dvorak: regional guys are always considered the more
1:13:49
powerful the groups right. I was not it I was kind of amenable I
1:13:58
worked in the refinery business and I knew how these things
1:14:01
work. There were guys that work in the agency. Absolutely. Were
1:14:08
a little Hitler's the SA and they would make people's life
1:14:11
miserable. Because they could tell us again,
1:14:13
Adam Curry: just quickly, just because it's so nice. Tell us
1:14:15
the story about Dianne Feinstein
1:14:19
John C Dvorak: Come on. Dianne Feinstein was a member of the of
1:14:23
the one of the boards that that oversaw the air pollution
1:14:28
distributel Hitler Hitler arena. So she was and she was a dingbat
1:14:33
and everybody knew it and right to the end and so she so we had
1:14:39
the situation in the file room, there was a
1:14:43
Adam Curry: I already love I forgot the file room part. Yeah.
1:14:47
John C Dvorak: So this is file room which is also connected to
1:14:50
the dispatchers and the dispatchers. Were in this like
1:14:56
kind of a closed group so they like to keep the door open
1:14:58
because it was like a pain In the essays they felt like they
1:15:01
were like you know a claustrophobic and the door was
1:15:04
also led to the fire file room and when you went to get some
1:15:08
files for some case or other you're supposed to sign out on
1:15:10
some little sheet and the dispatchers had really nothing
1:15:15
to do with it. But they were overseas supposed to sign these
1:15:19
sheets and take the files when people started just grabbing
1:15:22
files and not taking the sheets and so they had to go okay,
1:15:27
we're gonna have to do something about that. So they showed the
1:15:31
open door that the dispatchers definitely wanted to have
1:15:33
because it was claustrophobic they they put a chain across the
1:15:38
open door to keep people from going in and out of the file
1:15:42
room and just grabbing files so they have to now go through a
1:15:44
process to
1:15:45
Adam Curry: get the file right this wasn't Feinstein this was
1:15:47
boxer wasn't a boxer no no
1:15:49
John C Dvorak: this fine. Fine boxers. Boxers got another
1:15:51
story. Oh, boxers The one is always trying to have a
1:15:55
different story. Yeah, the SEC story. Yeah, that one. So
1:15:59
Feinstein so that so now we have the situation you got the
1:16:03
dispatchers in there, and you have the chain across the door.
1:16:07
And so Feinstein walks past without even doing any research
1:16:10
or giving she looks at the desk sees the two women in there.
1:16:13
They're the dispatchers that sees the chain, and she makes a
1:16:16
big fuss. Why are these women in behind a chain? This is
1:16:21
terrible. This is an insult to womanhood. And so she makes a
1:16:27
big fuss and so they have to take the chain down but now the
1:16:31
problem with the fall room is is still at issue so they have to
1:16:35
close the doors and now they're locked in this claustrophobic
1:16:39
area ruining their lives basically. Thanks for nothing
1:16:43
Dianne Feinstein. So that's the kind of person she is she's just
1:16:48
jumped to conclusions.
1:16:49
Adam Curry: Boxer was the one who wanted to get in your boxer
1:16:51
shorts.
1:16:52
John C Dvorak: Boxer was notorious. Everybody who was an
1:16:56
inspector was in the field and had cars she would always find
1:17:00
some one of the guys happen to be working Marin County or
1:17:02
something and try to I was told, try to not only get them to
1:17:06
drive her home, she didn't play them in.
1:17:09
Adam Curry: Didn't she want you to drive around one day panky?
1:17:12
Why didn't she want you to drive her home one day?
1:17:17
John C Dvorak: No, I've never I never got off. I never had that
1:17:19
area. I couldn't have driven her home. Oh, okay. I never worked
1:17:22
in Marin County. Wow, this
1:17:24
Adam Curry: was good. Thanks. Thanks for the Feinstein
1:17:27
reminder. So so so basically, though,
1:17:29
John C Dvorak: yes, the SEC was the beginning of the longer than
1:17:32
it should and that's good. The answer is
1:17:34
Adam Curry: especially at the at the local level with the smaller
1:17:37
regional offices. There's a lot of power power gnomes.
1:17:43
John C Dvorak: Now, yeah, absolutely. Like
1:17:45
Adam Curry: Louis from taxi, you know,
1:17:48
John C Dvorak: is exactly true. And there's no way you have to
1:17:51
assume that let's go to clip for this very short clip because I
1:17:53
gotta make a comment on it.
1:17:55
Unknown: Let's talk a little bit about that. Because the
1:17:56
opponents of of overturning Chevron many environmental
1:18:00
groups, consumer protection groups and others like that.
1:18:04
Okay.
1:18:06
John C Dvorak: Consumer Protection you man, I forgot
1:18:08
what I was going to say. So I'm gonna do it the environmental
1:18:13
groups because there's the that's where I should have
1:18:15
brought in the irony part of the story. They're the ones who
1:18:18
caused this to happen. Chevron deference, as you know, as was
1:18:22
caused against the environmental groups Hey, what the
1:18:26
deregulation that take place, but now they're all in on it. So
1:18:29
Adam Curry: indirectly, to think Bobby, the OP was actually a
1:18:32
problem within Chevron deference because he was one of these
1:18:35
environmental groups.
1:18:38
John C Dvorak: I have my you know, after seeing David people
1:18:41
should go read this article about Cheryl Hines and the
1:18:43
latest copy of The Hollywood Reporter Hollywood reporter.com
1:18:48
Go to thr.com and read it. It really brings out a lot of the
1:18:52
op. I mean, when she says well, you know, she makes us you just
1:18:57
comment you have to assume something's up when she says
1:19:00
that do other Republicans are running our rapist.
1:19:06
Adam Curry: She says that in the interview. Yeah,
1:19:08
John C Dvorak: more or less it is worded it's couched funny,
1:19:11
but that's basically what she said. And on trial for rapes, I
1:19:18
think is the way she put it. But this is like okay, this is Bobby
1:19:22
The Op I'm now convinced after reading that article in The
1:19:25
Hollywood Reporter that probably the OP is designed to run
1:19:29
Kennedy as an independent to take votes away from Trump as a
1:19:33
latch last ditch effort by the Democrats to get Biden back in
1:19:37
that's the only thing I can have to conclude after reading that
1:19:40
article. So I'm very skeptical of him okay. All right, onward
1:19:46
with the clip five
1:19:48
Unknown: of overturning Chevron many environmental groups,
1:19:51
consumer protection groups and others like that. argue that
1:19:54
this would would in essence, sow chaos. What is their argument?
1:19:58
Why do they say Chevron should Stay, they basically
1:20:01
argued that there's a hidden agenda in this case beyond the
1:20:04
the hearing fishermen who are the plaintiffs here, and that
1:20:07
it's they want to paralyze or cripple the bureaucracy so that
1:20:12
federal agencies cannot make rules on major problems and
1:20:17
American life, things from air pollution and maybe eventually
1:20:21
even artificial intelligence as Justice Elena Kagan raised
1:20:24
today, why to health care, and say if you return these
1:20:28
decisions to the hands of unelected federal judges, there
1:20:31
are something like 800 of them around the country. It risks
1:20:35
people's Medicare and Medicaid programs, very complex programs
1:20:40
that mean a lot to people's lives being decided one way in
1:20:43
one state and one way in in another way in another state,
1:20:47
and that could really sow chaos for for people's lives, just in
1:20:52
their personal pocketbooks, as well as for environmental
1:20:55
regulations and workplace protections. You just can't have
1:20:58
a system where the regs mean something in one state and mean
1:21:02
something else halfway around the country.
1:21:06
John C Dvorak: Okay, so that's that's the one thing they never
1:21:09
do is stop and say, Wait a minute. Yeah, Chevron deference
1:21:12
showed up in 1984. How did we even get by as a people without
1:21:18
What 1984
1:21:19
Adam Curry: What are we doing it did nothing work? Did
1:21:22
John C Dvorak: it work and it couldn't possibly work? So this
1:21:25
is bull crap. They're just trying to do the same. Oh,
1:21:29
scary. Oh, scare everybody to dead easy BBB. So anyway, so
1:21:34
there's the last time this brings in Comey Barrett?
1:21:37
Barrett.
1:21:38
Unknown: I know that in his confirmation hearings, now
1:21:41
justice Gorsuch expressed a great deal of skepticism. And I
1:21:45
know some other conservative justices similarly have shown
1:21:48
some antipathy to regulation. From your reading of the
1:21:51
arguments today. What is your sense? Do you think the majority
1:21:55
the conservative majority is going to strike it down?
1:21:58
We did hear deep skepticism from Justice Neil Neil Gorsuch today,
1:22:02
he raised a lot of very, very tough questions for the
1:22:05
Solicitor General. And Justice Brett Kavanaugh was also pretty
1:22:08
skeptical. Justice Samuel Alito, along the same lines, and
1:22:12
Clarence Thomas asked a few questions too, but those William
1:22:15
are four votes, and I didn't hear a clear fifth vote for
1:22:18
getting rid of this precedent altogether. In fact, one of the
1:22:21
Trump appointees justice Amy Coney Barrett, raised the
1:22:24
specter of getting rid of this precedent might mean, inviting
1:22:28
floodgates of litigation from 1000s of litigants who've had
1:22:33
their cases decided based on this principle over many years,
1:22:37
and that really swamping the courts and potentially the
1:22:39
Justice Department, too. So it's not clear to me there are five
1:22:42
votes to overturn this precedent all together. It may be that the
1:22:47
court compromises it chips away further at the precedent,
1:22:51
though.
1:22:52
Adam Curry: Well, that aligns very closely with what Rob the
1:22:56
constitutional lawyer sent me because I asked him, of course,
1:22:59
and he said, Of course, I'm going to I'm going to pay
1:23:02
attention to this for you guys. I'll read and he also gave me
1:23:06
something from law 360. That is highlighted some stuff. Here's
1:23:10
what he said. As his boots on the ground. I went back and
1:23:13
looked at some of the commentary on the two Chevron deference
1:23:15
cases argued before SCOTUS yesterday, the Loper bright
1:23:18
enterprise versus Raimundo and relentless Inc versus Department
1:23:22
of Commerce. As you know, the question is yours just how much
1:23:25
deference the court should give to regulatory agencies
1:23:28
interpretations of the legislation? They're in charge
1:23:32
of enforcing since 1984? The answer has been a lot. As long
1:23:36
as the agency's interpretation is permissible courts will adopt
1:23:39
it as law. This creates a tension. The Constitution
1:23:42
charges Congress with making laws and the judiciary with
1:23:45
interpreting them. It does not charge the executive branch with
1:23:49
either function. Still, the agencies who presumably have the
1:23:52
expertise usually need to fill in lots of details to do their
1:23:55
jobs. But how deeply should the courts bow to their
1:23:58
interpretations? He said, depending on who you talk to the
1:24:02
word is that most of the justices seem reluctantly
1:24:05
amenable to diluting Chevron deference but how much many
1:24:09
including Justice Barrett, worried that SCOTUS decision
1:24:12
might gut the existing agency interpretations, unleashing a
1:24:16
flood of litigation over now reopened questions others say
1:24:20
this concern is overblown, since one most of the agency
1:24:23
interpretations are probably right and two, if not they need
1:24:26
to be challenged. And he says he attached a highlighted law 360
1:24:31
With five takeaways from Paul Clemente and I put that in the
1:24:35
show notes. In a nutshell Clemente says the Congressman
1:24:38
can use friends in the executive branch to get things done,
1:24:43
instead of slogging through the presentment compromise in by
1:24:49
camera realism hurdles that make statutes comparatively hard to
1:24:54
enact. To paraphrase Obama regulatory action requires
1:24:58
nothing more than a phone and a pen. And so they actually that
1:25:03
sounded like that report was was pretty spot on. And they proud.
1:25:07
I think they'll dilute it. But they'll do something so they
1:25:11
somehow they can't get all these all these lawsuits reopened
1:25:17
again. I don't know how they do that.
1:25:21
John C Dvorak: But well, we'll find out soon enough, but this
1:25:24
thing should go. Oh,
1:25:27
Adam Curry: what what a joy it would be for, for the work.
1:25:31
John C Dvorak: By the way, when I worked at the, at this
1:25:33
administrative state, and they already were lording it over
1:25:36
everybody else. That was before Chevron deference.
1:25:41
Adam Curry: Oh, is that long ago? So you were already a
1:25:43
little Hitler's before it that happened? Imagine what
1:25:48
John C Dvorak: all the way I see it. Chevron deference once the
1:25:51
Republicans got out of office, because when the Republicans
1:25:54
were in office, don't forget, the Chevron deference began as a
1:25:57
way to deregulate. That's the funny part. That's the irony.
1:26:02
And then once they got out the this is the problem with
1:26:05
everything is, you know, you switch parties, and the next
1:26:08
thing you know, they go nuts the other way. And they started
1:26:11
abusing power, which is what's been going on this is why the
1:26:15
gun shops get closed. Because the the ATF and others they
1:26:20
create new rules. And there's stories about some gun shop
1:26:24
owner that forgot to put a Yeah, yeah. And they closed the shop.
1:26:28
Yeah, got to sign his name properly, or print his name
1:26:31
under a signature. And so they close the shop. All this is all
1:26:35
a result of Chevron deference. Everything bad that's happening
1:26:39
in the administrative state is the is the fault of Chevron
1:26:42
deference again, 1984 It's when it began. And it's just gotten
1:26:47
to the point where it's gotta go. And if there's cases if a
1:26:51
bunch of cases show up because Comey Baird doesn't want to do
1:26:54
any work. Or she's just you know, still thinking like a
1:26:57
judge that's out there. Leave
1:26:58
Adam Curry: it she she's the only true white Christian there.
1:27:01
She should be all Magga is what's wrong with her.
1:27:05
John C Dvorak: That's always the irony of these things. I would
1:27:08
like to
1:27:08
Adam Curry: take us back to Episode 1337 of this very
1:27:11
podcast. Have a listen to minutes. This funny do that.
1:27:16
Okay, great. So I get in the car and I driven it before I'm
1:27:21
sitting down and he drives off in the truck. I'm like, I forgot
1:27:24
how to start this thing. That's how stupid it was, like, already
1:27:28
starts off the car is stupid. You don't have to start it. You
1:27:31
just got to put it into Drive. I can I was looking for a button.
1:27:34
You know, like my truck has a button. You press the button,
1:27:36
the car starts. So that's how disoriented I was. But anyway, I
1:27:41
remember how it works. I started driving and he left me with
1:27:44
about it said 200 miles on the on the range the range meter. So
1:27:52
I started driving. Now this is a multiple
1:27:55
John C Dvorak: you stopped this clip. You're you referenced in
1:27:58
that clip that you're just starting to play. I've driven it
1:28:01
before. That's the report where you went on and on about how
1:28:05
great it was not the second report or the third report or
1:28:08
what you say today. So this is a nonsense what you're doing.
1:28:13
Adam Curry: I never did a report other than this one. No.
1:28:18
John C Dvorak: I've you first drove it you do gave a report.
1:28:24
Adam Curry: All right. I'll just put it in the show notes. People
1:28:26
can listen for themselves. You're right. I probably
1:28:28
shouldn't embarrass you any further.
1:28:30
John C Dvorak: Not an embarrassment. You're just
1:28:32
proving my point. No, there is no report in that report. You
1:28:35
yourself said I've driven it before and blah blah blah.
1:28:39
That's when that's when the first report came out because
1:28:41
you talked about driving it the first time you are
1:28:43
Adam Curry: mediocre. This is not true. This is the report
1:28:46
where I said the thing is dangerous. I said it almost ran
1:28:50
me off the road it was horrible. That's
1:28:52
John C Dvorak: right and I'm not arguing but this report is what
1:28:56
I'm talking about are
1:28:57
Adam Curry: people find find the previous report because it
1:29:00
doesn't exist. They will the only report
1:29:03
John C Dvorak: is rarely Moonbase as they'll find it.
1:29:04
Yeah.
1:29:08
Adam Curry: Boy, you really hurt me with that one Oof. Boy,
1:29:12
Israeli Moonbase is that
1:29:14
John C Dvorak: you are in denial about that for God at least a
1:29:16
year. I've
1:29:18
Adam Curry: never said that. I've never gone back on that.
1:29:21
I've always said there was Israeli Moon bases I've never
1:29:24
said
1:29:24
John C Dvorak: There you go shabby never. Everyone knows
1:29:27
what you're doing. Nice try.
1:29:30
Adam Curry: How about we talk about the latest scare that is
1:29:33
has everybody all up in arms? Because it's back. It's back
1:29:38
disease X disease X is back and the Chinese are doing it disease
1:29:43
Unknown: X is a term for a hypothetical illness, one that
1:29:46
has not happened and is currently unknown. In this
1:29:49
scenario, experts from around the globe are evaluating what
1:29:53
would happen and what we would need to do in order to prepare
1:29:56
for a virus that could claim up to 20 times more law is the
1:30:00
COVID 19 pandemic. in Davos, the disease X scenario took center
1:30:05
stage Wednesday, you may
1:30:07
even call COVID as the first disease X. And it may happen
1:30:14
again, the WHO
1:30:16
Director General acknowledges tough lessons were learned
1:30:19
during COVID-19.
1:30:20
We lost many people because we couldn't manage them. They could
1:30:24
have been saved, but they couldn't marry them. There's no
1:30:27
space, there was no enough. So how can you have a system that
1:30:30
can expand when the need comes? This
1:30:33
bioethics professor says the pandemic showed us how one
1:30:36
disease absorbing all available resources can lead to other
1:30:40
health issues falling through the cracks.
1:30:43
A cancer diagnosis did not take place with very severe
1:30:46
consequences for the people that were affected.
1:30:48
Blink says there are also ethical questions to consider
1:30:51
when preparing for the next big health emergency.
1:30:54
Do we try to limit the number of of lives that we lose? Or do we
1:30:58
limit the number of life years that we lose? To what extent
1:31:01
should we be concerned about equity considerations or we're
1:31:04
just concerned about health outcomes?
1:31:06
he cautions Canada is not ready. There will be
1:31:09
wholly unprepared for this because we are under resourced.
1:31:11
We don't have the staff and we don't have the bits available.
1:31:14
So it will be a major problem obviously,
1:31:16
anything happening is a matter of when not if
1:31:20
Adam Curry: so, so this is picked up by outfits around the
1:31:24
world because now we have a report there's an actual report
1:31:27
someone has a report and gravi toss India this is where Paki
1:31:31
palki Sharma is used to work they've got the the crux of it
1:31:36
that
1:31:37
Unknown: Sinai is asked again, it's playing with fire. What I
1:31:40
mean to say is, it is experimenting with a deadly new
1:31:43
COVID-19 stream as per report and this one has a mortality
1:31:47
rate of 100%. Right. None of those who have been infected
1:31:52
with it has survived.
1:31:54
Adam Curry: When I heard that I'm like what people have been
1:31:56
infected and they died that none of the people who are infected
1:31:59
with this new disease x this new virus from China have survived
1:32:02
what Tada look
1:32:03
Unknown: at this report published in bio RX iwi doctors
1:32:07
trained by Chinese People's Liberation Army are conducting
1:32:10
these experiments. They have made their own version of
1:32:13
Coronavirus found in pangolins. The scientists administer this
1:32:18
labmate virus in mice. Guess what they discovered, mice
1:32:23
started losing weight blockers their eyes went white. All of
1:32:28
this happened after five days of being infected. The virus threat
1:32:33
to their eyes, their lungs and even the brain. All four mice
1:32:37
infected with the new COVID-19 stream died in eight days. In
1:32:42
the last two days of their lives, the virus increased in
1:32:45
the brains significantly what caused the deaths. Researchers
1:32:49
suggest it was severe brain infection. The intensity of this
1:32:54
new strain is astounding. And it has set alarm bells ringing by
1:32:58
the way, Chinese scientists have issued warnings they fear the
1:33:02
virus strain can spill over to human beings. And what would
1:33:05
happen then would lead to a pandemic all over again.
1:33:09
Adam Curry: So this this type of reporting has Oh, No one
1:33:14
survived. It turns out it was mice and they turned into first
1:33:17
they lost weight which is a groovy and then the the eyes
1:33:21
went white and a brain disease and they all died and it's all
1:33:24
China. It's gotten so crazy that we got a Fox News poll
1:33:29
everyone's talking about on Twitter x. Let's bring in
1:33:32
Redfield Redfield, you recall was the CDC director who left
1:33:37
during the pandemic. And he's back to this
1:33:41
Unknown: morning growing concerns as we learned growing
1:33:43
consumers are experimenting with a mutant COVID strain 100% A
1:33:48
Adam Curry: mutant mutant COVID strain Oh, who writes this
1:33:51
stuff? Scientists
1:33:52
Unknown: are experimenting with a mutant COVID strain 100%
1:33:56
lethal in mice. Despite critics warning this research could
1:34:00
spark another pandemic. Former CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield
1:34:04
is here to react. Good morning, Dr. Redfield.
1:34:07
Adam Curry: Good morning. What are you here for? I'm here to
1:34:09
react again. Why
1:34:11
Unknown: would they do this again?
1:34:13
Well, you know, as Lee I'm very much against the wisdom of doing
1:34:18
this gain of function research. I mean, I'm of the view that the
1:34:21
original COVID pandemic was a direct consequence of laboratory
1:34:26
research that helped educate the virus to become more
1:34:29
transmissible, human to human, not more pathogenic. And the
1:34:33
work you talk about today is work that they're doing that
1:34:37
actually is changing the pathogenicity of these viruses,
1:34:40
I think until we really have a better debate about whether
1:34:44
there's any value in this gain of function research, we ought
1:34:47
to have a moratorium on it. And clearly we don't have the bio
1:34:51
containment up to par to do this kind of research. I think it's
1:34:54
very dangerous. But
1:34:56
Adam Curry: what's really dangerous is the reporting on
1:34:59
all this and how This swirls around on social media and
1:35:03
before you know it, disease X is a thing. And it's happening. But
1:35:07
there's something he said in this not only the second one,
1:35:10
the second clip that made me connect a few dots. People
1:35:14
Unknown: have been wondering if it was Fred because of a lab
1:35:16
leak and his ex boss was talking to Congress. That headline on
1:35:21
Fox News is Fauci is ex boss now says COVID-19 lab leak theory
1:35:25
was credible, despite previous claims, it was a distraction. So
1:35:30
now he's saying that, but he downplayed it when he was
1:35:33
interviewed with Bret Baier back in 2021, listen to this,
1:35:37
I'm really sorry that the lab leak has become such a
1:35:40
distraction for so many people, because frankly, we still don't
1:35:43
know there is no evidence, really, to most of the
1:35:46
scientific community, myself included, think that is a
1:35:49
possibility. But far more likely, this was a natural way
1:35:53
in which a virus left a bat maybe traveled through some
1:35:56
other species and got to humans. But
1:35:58
now he's saying it is credibly told Congress that how can we
1:36:01
trust the NIH? And why is he changing his story now?
1:36:05
Well, you know, I'm very disappointed in both him and
1:36:08
Fauci that they didn't provide the scientific leadership in
1:36:11
January, February of 2022, aggressively investigate both
1:36:15
hypotheses to spill over in the lab leak. That's normally what
1:36:19
the scientific community would do. Instead, they very rapidly
1:36:24
sort of rally the troops around one idea that just had to come
1:36:28
from a spillover even though I will say over the last three to
1:36:31
four years, all the evidence that's been gathered points more
1:36:34
towards lab leaks. And, and obviously, we haven't found any
1:36:37
evidence to support the spillover. Now, they did this, I
1:36:40
think largely because they thought they were protecting
1:36:43
science. And the science that they were protecting, is this
1:36:47
gain of function research that they want to do. But in fact,
1:36:50
they did the opposite. I think we've lost a lot of credibility
1:36:54
in both NIH and unfortunately, CDC because of their lack of
1:36:58
transparency.
1:37:00
Adam Curry: So here's what I some dots I connect, because you
1:37:03
know, I'm, I'm a no virus guy, you definitely say there's a bio
1:37:07
weapon. We had dinner earlier this week with the ER doctor.
1:37:12
And I said, Tell me what is. This seems like it was just the
1:37:18
flu people were dying from the flu from fear. He says, this is
1:37:22
I just connected this this morning. He says yes, but he
1:37:26
says, I saw people with this white lung stuff. He says, that
1:37:31
was some kind of bio weapon. Is it perhaps possible that a bio
1:37:37
weapon, an actual bio weapon was accidentally released, then I'm
1:37:42
just gonna say it was us whether it was the labs we had in
1:37:45
Ukraine, which would make total sense gotta clean that up, or
1:37:48
whether it was for Dietrich, but some bio weapon got out. And
1:37:52
maybe that was the early or maybe I was wrong about those
1:37:55
early cartridges, you know, the vape cartridges that people gave
1:37:58
them white lung and they died, maybe that was an actual bio
1:38:03
weapon. And to cover it up. They came up with this whole COVID
1:38:08
thing.
1:38:12
John C Dvorak: This seems to elaborate to me. Okay. All
1:38:15
right.
1:38:16
Adam Curry: For sure. They no one seems to be able to come to
1:38:20
terms with what is happening. We have a excess Dez in the UK,
1:38:27
which is being actively discussed in parliament there
1:38:31
10% 7% year on year, it should in fact, be going down. It
1:38:37
should be a deficit. But it's not it's going up. And now we
1:38:40
are seeing this here in the United States. It's showing up
1:38:44
with these cancers and younger people. And what could it come
1:38:48
from an
1:38:49
Unknown: alarming trend? Colorectal cancer is now the
1:38:52
leading cause of cancer deaths in men under the age of 50. And
1:38:56
the second among women of the same age.
1:38:59
We do suspect a something in the environment. But what that is,
1:39:02
we don't know likely it's a combination of things that's
1:39:05
affecting our microbiomes or our immune systems that may be
1:39:09
leading to why this is happening. younger and younger.
1:39:11
Dr.
1:39:12
Kimmy ng is an oncologist at Boston's Dana Farber Cancer
1:39:16
Institute. And he's seen a dramatic increase in patients in
1:39:19
their 20s and 30s. Younger people tend to have more
1:39:23
advanced cancers, correct?
1:39:25
Yes, the majority of our young patients who are diagnosed
1:39:28
unfortunately are diagnosed with either stage three or four
1:39:32
colorectal cancer.
1:39:33
Adam Curry: That was NBC CBS has a similar report. I do
1:39:36
Unknown: want to ask you about the American Cancer Society
1:39:38
today reporting colon cancer is killing more young men and women
1:39:43
than ever before. You are a gastroenterologist what is going
1:39:47
on?
1:39:47
Yet? We've been concerned about this. We've seen that younger
1:39:50
people are increasingly affected, which is why the
1:39:51
guidelines for initial screening for people at average risk has
1:39:54
fallen from 50 to 45. Why has it done that? Well, maybe there's
1:40:00
something in the environment something we're eating are
1:40:02
increasing obesity, which is linked to an increased risk for
1:40:04
colon cancer. Is it our inactivity? Or is it something
1:40:07
in the microbiome, the trillions of bacteria in our gut and
1:40:10
somehow the environment, something we're eating or
1:40:13
antibiotics are changing that and increasing the risk? We
1:40:15
don't know. But we're going to end with good news, which is
1:40:18
that every year for the last 30 years, the total deaths from
1:40:22
colon cancer have dropped, which is a terrific achievement. But
1:40:25
today's report shows us we can't be complacent and we really have
1:40:28
to screen screening works. You need to talk to your healthcare
1:40:30
provider
1:40:36
Adam Curry: these people Kockums razor for a moment people.
1:40:41
That's really what a disservice they're doing what a disservice.
1:40:46
Unbelievable.
1:40:49
John C Dvorak: They just don't want to come to grips with the
1:40:51
thesis that is the vaccine is causing these issues. We had a
1:40:56
guy just dropped another drug suddenly dropped dead to some a
1:40:59
heart attack. 45 years old. I'm one of the executives of New
1:41:02
Warriors, you know, and it's just like, okay.
1:41:07
Adam Curry: Yeah, like, exactly, huh, whoa, whatever. It's
1:41:12
unbelievable. It really is.
1:41:19
It's not everybody, by the way. Don't don't all get freaked out.
1:41:26
But it seems so obvious. And it's never discussed. Never.
1:41:30
They just can't touch it.
1:41:33
John C Dvorak: No, of course not. Because who's the leading
1:41:36
advertiser on television and the news media is they've captured
1:41:41
it's a captured is a captured situation captured, captured is
1:41:46
the word. Yes. That's the word of the day. Let's go to this.
1:41:49
You had NATO guy on earlier, because you were doing that
1:41:52
thing on the data. Bags. Yeah. Here's another one of these guys
1:41:58
is discussing the Ukraine war with an ex NATO hotshot. on PBS.
1:42:06
This is quite entertaining. They reported
1:42:08
Unknown: earlier negotiations over funding for border
1:42:11
security. Earlier today I spoke with former NATO Secretary
1:42:15
General Anders full Grace mucin. About what this means as
1:42:18
Russia's war in Ukraine enters its third year. And as well,
1:42:22
Ross mucin. Thank you so much for being here. Welcome to the
1:42:24
NewsHour. Thank you for having me. So I want to ask you about
1:42:27
US lawmakers inability so far, to reach a deal on immigration
1:42:31
that would allow Ukraine aid to move forward. You've said
1:42:34
previously you would advise Democrats to accommodate
1:42:37
Republicans on the border, cut a deal get the aid flowing. I know
1:42:40
you're meeting with House Freedom Caucus members tomorrow.
1:42:43
What's your advice to them? My
1:42:46
advice would be to do what it takes to ensure that Ukraine
1:42:53
wins the war against Russia, because it is detrimental for
1:43:00
the US national security interest. If Russia wins this
1:43:04
war, we cannot allow Putin any success in Ukraine. There
1:43:10
is a very real chance that former President Donald Trump
1:43:12
will be the Republican nominee that he could win in November.
1:43:15
If aid for Ukraine does not move forward under the Biden
1:43:19
administration. Do you believe it could move forward under
1:43:22
President Trump? Yes,
1:43:24
we don't know. As a point of departure. I'm skeptical. When
1:43:29
you look forward, though, into the months ahead and what could
1:43:31
happen here in the US you've said that even if Mr. Trump
1:43:34
doesn't win, you said his nomination alone could be a
1:43:37
geopolitical catastrophe. Why?
1:43:41
Adam Curry: I didn't get any clips, but Zelinsky was in Davao
1:43:44
Dubbo. And he was is he was talking about the peace formula.
1:43:51
Peace formula, which is unclear. Anyway, and he was meeting with
1:43:56
the bankers he was there. They're meeting about the
1:43:58
reconstruction already. They gotta end this thing. But this
1:44:01
guy's a military guy just wants to sell more things that go
1:44:04
boom.
1:44:05
John C Dvorak: Well, I'd like to know I'm watching PBS is in
1:44:08
America is I think PBS is United States, right? It's not I'm not
1:44:12
getting a feed from Mexico. Are you sure? I don't know who's so
1:44:16
why is this guy even being interviewed at all? And why is
1:44:21
he up on Capitol Hill? chatting it up with the Peace coalition
1:44:26
and whoever else is there? What is he got to do with the slice
1:44:30
of Buddha slice? Because you got to do with rice or bread or the
1:44:34
slice for that matter? What is this guy sales got to do with
1:44:38
anything and let alone being it. This is beyond me.
1:44:41
Adam Curry: He's a sales guy he's selling for the military
1:44:44
industrial complex.
1:44:46
Unknown: It goes on his part too, because I have seen that.
1:44:50
The fact that he is around the fact that he probably will be
1:44:55
nominated as the Republican presidential can The date
1:45:00
already that has changed the way international actors, they take
1:45:08
decisions, they try to hedge their bets. and in Europe, for
1:45:14
instance, there is a great concern that a new
1:45:19
administration might be more inward looking more
1:45:22
isolationist, that they will leave Europe behind. I don't
1:45:26
think that would be in the interest of the United States to
1:45:30
weaken its alliances across the Atlantic. On the contrary, we
1:45:34
should strengthen the Transatlantic Alliance.
1:45:37
Can I ask you about what we've seen in the US public, though,
1:45:41
which is some decline in support for continuing the same level of
1:45:44
us funding for Ukraine, and specifically, this idea that
1:45:48
European nations should be doing more? Should Europe be bearing
1:45:52
more of the security burden, especially when it comes to
1:45:54
Ukraine? Yes.
1:45:56
And we are doing so latest figures demonstrate that Europe
1:46:03
has now overtaken the US when it comes both to military
1:46:07
assistance and direct financial assistance led late last year?
1:46:12
Yes, we are not speaking about pledges who is being about real
1:46:15
money. When it comes to the military. According to those
1:46:20
figures, Europe has contributed 54 billion euros, the US 44
1:46:28
billion euros dye
1:46:30
Adam Curry: question those numbers. I do too, I thought we
1:46:34
were well over 100 billion.
1:46:36
John C Dvorak: I think this guy's full of crap. Well,
1:46:40
Adam Curry: you got to catch up people that can't have the
1:46:42
European spending more on military stuff we need to spend.
1:46:46
John C Dvorak: And then you can kind of tell when you listen to
1:46:48
his last clip, which is that what they want us to do, which
1:46:52
is give them everything, including the most high tech of
1:46:57
high tech products. So the Russians guy geskin would get a
1:47:00
hold of them and copy them or the Chinese because that's what
1:47:03
they're going to end up happening. If you do that. I
1:47:07
just thought this was a disgusting example of PBS.
1:47:12
Bringing in some this guy, this guy annoys me, let's play.
1:47:15
Unknown: I appreciate that the Europeans contribute more, they
1:47:20
should, we should do so. But it cannot replace a continued US
1:47:26
assistance. We need both. We need sophisticated weapons
1:47:31
delivered by the United States. And we need more weapons. We
1:47:36
need to lift all self imposed restrictions on weapon
1:47:41
deliveries to Ukraine. So the mantra that we will help Ukraine
1:47:45
for as long as it takes, it should be replaced with we will
1:47:50
give to Ukraine. All it takes to win the war.
1:47:55
There's been a lot of criticism that had the US and NATO Allies
1:47:58
done that sooner the war might have been over by now Ukraine
1:48:01
would be in a different position. It took 300 days into
1:48:03
the war for the US, for example, to provide long range missiles
1:48:06
President Solinsky had been asking for. Was that a mistake?
1:48:11
Yes, it's really. I mean, it's a sad story to see our hesitation.
1:48:21
And the reason why they equate the Ukrainian counteroffensive
1:48:26
have been so difficult, and so modest, is that we took much too
1:48:31
long time to take necessary decisions. You cannot win a war
1:48:36
by an incremental step by step approach. You have to overwhelm
1:48:42
and surprise your adversary. We failed to do that.
1:48:45
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Well, there's a plan. They got a plan.
1:48:49
Because yes, is no longer pulling his weight. Jens
1:48:52
Stoltenberg. He's not doing it. He's not getting you know, he
1:48:56
sits in Davos. He's got the he's living it up doing caviar bumps.
1:49:02
And you know that we need more war to make peace. It's like I'm
1:49:06
here, but he's been there for 10 years. He's been he's contracts
1:49:10
been extended over and over again. And now they're looking
1:49:14
for a new leader. It's
1:49:16
Unknown: been one of the most popular guessing games in
1:49:19
Brussels for years. Who will replace Jens Stoltenberg, the
1:49:23
Norwegian NATO chief has been asked to stay on as head of the
1:49:26
Western military alliance four times, once, even after he'd
1:49:30
already accepted another job. It
1:49:33
is time for NATO leaders to find a good candidate. It's really
1:49:40
important that a choice is made early enough and that it is
1:49:45
delinked from both the European union elections and the campaign
1:49:51
for the United States elections. Just why
1:49:54
the alliance has been unable to find a suitable replacement is
1:49:57
not exactly clear, in part because There's no official
1:50:01
procedure for doing so. There has been an unofficial list of
1:50:05
desired qualities experienced as a head of state or government of
1:50:09
a country with robust defense spending from a southern or
1:50:13
Eastern ally and preferably finally a woman. Many names have
1:50:18
come up and gone down. Currently Latvian Foreign Minister
1:50:23
Christianity's current Estonian Prime Minister Kaya goalless and
1:50:27
outgoing Dutch Prime Minister Mark Ruta all want the job route
1:50:31
it has gradually emerged as the clear favorite, a safer choice
1:50:35
with Moscow's war on Ukraine dominating the Alliance agenda.
1:50:39
Adam Curry: So I've been following this for a while
1:50:41
because Margaret, of course is Dutch. The Prime Minister was
1:50:45
prime minister for 12 years or something. If they want a woman
1:50:49
that's the guy you want. Get him if they want a woman put him in
1:50:54
charge. He's to he was in HR at at Unilever. Before he became
1:51:00
prime minister. He is a as we say in the old country, a silk
1:51:04
sock. He's just a worse he's silk
1:51:09
Unknown: sauce
1:51:10
silk sock.
1:51:10
John C Dvorak: He has what they call an old country.
1:51:14
Adam Curry: Zetas sock, silk sock?
1:51:17
John C Dvorak: Well, we're while we're on the topic of the old
1:51:19
country, we might as well play this clip. Oh, boy. This is
1:51:23
Claire Daly going off on Biden. Yet. This
1:51:26
Adam Curry: is this is a nice little rant. Our old Claire did
1:51:29
despite
1:51:29
Unknown: the catastrophic death toll it has inflicted, Israel is
1:51:33
losing on the ground. And in the courts of public opinion.
1:51:37
There's no way that this ends that doesn't leave Israel, a
1:51:41
pariah state with occupation and apartheid on borrowed time. And
1:51:46
they know it. So they're doing everything they can desperate
1:51:50
acts of aggression to provoke a wider conflict with Lebanon with
1:51:54
Iran with anybody to draw in the US to save them from the
1:51:59
consequences of their own actions. And as Yemen shows,
1:52:03
butcher Biden is reporting for juicy so take notes, butcher by
1:52:08
the ancestors of the Ireland that you claim to be from disown
1:52:12
you keep our company out of your mouth,
1:52:16
Adam Curry: butcher Biden, they need to chant they need to
1:52:19
chant, I need a chance to incorporate that. I just want to
1:52:23
go back to your military industrial complex for a moment,
1:52:26
because they're having such a hard time just keeping with the
1:52:29
show theme here. having such a hard time finding a body double
1:52:33
for Lloyd Austin. There just can't
1:52:35
John C Dvorak: be It can't be done there. Just yet to find an
1:52:38
ex NFL guy. Probably a lineman. Yeah. And he's got to be the
1:52:45
last like six for some problem because you can get the fridge.
1:52:50
Tonight, you have to be careful about who you're hiring nowadays
1:52:54
if you need it if he's going to need a body double, because some
1:52:57
guys are just going to be hard to replace. I know Trump I'm
1:53:00
sure there's two of them. So they're distracting us
1:53:03
Adam Curry: with the 911. Call tonight
1:53:05
Unknown: ABC News obtaining the 911 call requesting an ambulance
1:53:08
at the home of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin after complications
1:53:11
from the surgery. He kept a secret at first oh nine
1:53:13
John C Dvorak: federal employee called Yeah, it took them this
1:53:16
long to create a phony 911 call for the for the media.
1:53:20
Adam Curry: Have you heard the call is great. Oh, the call is
1:53:23
fantastic. And listen to the call like I got some of the
1:53:27
call. 911
1:53:28
Unknown: Where's your emergency?
1:53:29
Tonight the 911 call just obtained by CBS News reveals an
1:53:34
aide to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin asked the
1:53:37
dispatcher to keep the emergency discreet.
1:53:42
They can ambulance not show up with lights and sirens. We're
1:53:46
trying to remain a little subtle. Yeah, I understand.
1:53:51
Yeah, usually when they turn into a residential neighborhood,
1:53:53
they'll turn them off, but they're required by law to run
1:53:55
with them with the Main Street.
1:53:57
The operator then asks for details about Austin's can
1:54:00
What's
1:54:01
Adam Curry: your question?
1:54:02
John C Dvorak: What is this nonsense about turning the
1:54:04
lights on and off and
1:54:05
Adam Curry: well they didn't want to want to keep it subtle
1:54:07
you know? Because we know we don't want what's your Biden to
1:54:10
know I guess I don't know this is this is some helper at his at
1:54:16
his resume
1:54:16
John C Dvorak: this is a no I've just not that I did not you
1:54:19
mention it is so that when when they canvass anyone in his
1:54:23
neighborhood about the the ambulance they kill I don't
1:54:26
remember. Because there was no lights and sirens Yes, exactly.
1:54:31
Yeah. Like he's gonna pass out. Oh,
1:54:35
Adam Curry: you mean so? Oh, that's a good point. Well, it
1:54:37
was done on the Qt on the DL. So yeah, so no one no no witnesses
1:54:42
John C Dvorak: policy because if you did listen to her as a
1:54:44
policy that you keep the license overnight and the main drags but
1:54:47
when you go into the residential areas, you turn them off. Yes.
1:54:53
Unknown: Austin was taken to the hospital on New Year's Day with
1:54:57
an infection that stemmed from complications and After surgery
1:55:00
to treat prostate cancer just over two weeks earlier, in a
1:55:05
statement, Austin's doctor said he had severe pain in his leg,
1:55:09
hip and abdomen from
1:55:11
Adam Curry: the shrapnel.
1:55:12
Unknown: I'm just curious if we need to take him to Walter Reed
1:55:17
medical, is that a possibility? Let them know that when they get
1:55:21
there, like I said, I'm noting all this in the call the
1:55:23
911 call adds to questions about why President Biden did not find
1:55:28
out about Austin's hospitalization for three days.
1:55:32
Neither did his deputy who had taken over Austin's duties while
1:55:35
she was on vacation in Puerto Rico. Despite calls for Austin's
1:55:40
resignation. The president says he's not considering firing him.
1:55:47
I do.
1:55:53
Yes, but tonight The Pentagon has not responded to our request
1:55:58
for a comment about that 911 Call. The inspector general
1:56:01
though continues to investigate why it took Austin so long to
1:56:05
disclose his hospitalization, all
1:56:08
Adam Curry: distraction. And then of course, he's now
1:56:10
released, we still don't have him waving from the balcony
1:56:13
defense
1:56:13
Unknown: secretary Lloyd Austin was released from Walter Reed
1:56:16
Medical Center today after being treated for complications that
1:56:19
follow up prostate cancer surgery. His treatment and
1:56:22
complications had been kept secret for days, prompting
1:56:26
widespread criticism. The Pentagon said Austin will
1:56:29
continue to recuperate and perform his duties from home
1:56:33
Adam Curry: and now they're saying they think he may need
1:56:35
additional care is not good. They
1:56:40
John C Dvorak: where's he waving from the balcony. I don't know
1:56:42
if maybe some new listeners just showed up for the show should
1:56:45
know what the thesis is, which we're kind of skirting, which is
1:56:50
that he was killed in a Ukraine attack. He was in Ukraine on the
1:56:55
first or the second of January, and he got killed in a in a in
1:56:59
an attack. And so now they're trying to if they haven't come
1:57:06
up with a good story yet for ways missing. I mean, they're
1:57:11
working on it. They're working on it as we can tell.
1:57:16
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, we have. We've got a kerfuffle down here
1:57:19
in Texas. Now we're Texas is fighting the federal government.
1:57:26
Yes,
1:57:26
John C Dvorak: it's a good story. Do you have any? I have
1:57:28
two clips. Tonight tragedy on the Rio Grande escalating a
1:57:32
border battle between the ocean and Texas centered around
1:57:37
federal authorities access to the border. The Department of
1:57:40
Homeland Security issuing a letter to the State's Attorney
1:57:43
General demanding Texas immediately cease and desist any
1:57:47
actions. Now blog Border Patrol has full access to the US Mexico
1:57:50
border in and around the Shelby Park area. That Eagle Pass park
1:57:55
near where a migrant woman and two children drowned late
1:57:59
Friday. The rescue response highly disputed. The White House
1:58:03
stating Texas officials blocked US Border Patrol from attempting
1:58:06
to save the migrants. Texas authorities calling that wholly
1:58:10
inaccurate sharing by the time Border Patrol requested access.
1:58:14
Mexican authorities were already recovering the bodies.
1:58:17
Unknown: It's devastating to imagine that state officials
1:58:22
would know that people were drowning in the river
1:58:25
particularly children and block Border Patrol from going and
1:58:30
saving them.
1:58:31
John C Dvorak: Just hours before the drownings the state's
1:58:33
governor defending its border presence. Texas has the legal
1:58:37
authority to control ingress and egress into any geographic
1:58:41
location in the state of Texas. Back in Eagle Pass 700 white
1:58:45
crosses marking the estimated migrant deaths over the last
1:58:49
year. And tonight DHS is giving Texas that deadline of this
1:58:52
Wednesday to stop blocking border patrol or that will
1:58:55
further matter to the Department of Justice.
1:58:59
Adam Curry: Civil War maybe Civil War as Tim Poole can be
1:59:04
civil war and pull up to say that Civil War Civil War. CBS
1:59:11
had to report to the
1:59:12
Unknown: Texas National Guard abruptly seized control of a two
1:59:16
and a half mile stretch of the southern border last week. DHS
1:59:20
says on Friday federal Border Protection agents requested
1:59:23
access to the area where a group of migrants was attempting to
1:59:27
cross the Rio Grande but Texas officials refused a woman and
1:59:32
her two children drowned in a cease and desist letter to the
1:59:36
Texas Attorney General. The top lawyer for DHS said Texas is
1:59:40
failure to provide access to the border persists, even in
1:59:44
instances of imminent danger to life and safety. Calling the
1:59:48
state's actions clearly unconstitutional.
1:59:52
It's all politics, visual politics. Texas Congressman
1:59:56
Henry Cuellar says this state prevented federal aid ants from
2:00:00
using specialized equipment to save the migrants who died.
2:00:04
A scope truck is a truck that has this camera that can see
2:00:09
what's happened in the river that could have had an impact of
2:00:12
what happened here.
2:00:14
What is your message to Governor Abbott?
2:00:16
You cannot do this type of standoff is not helpful. The
2:00:21
Texas
2:00:21
military department says two of the migrants had already drowned
2:00:25
by the time Border Patrol asked to enter the area. Governor Greg
2:00:30
Abbott says he has the legal authority to control areas of
2:00:34
the southern border within state boundaries authority is being
2:00:37
asserted with regard to that park and Eagle Pass Texas to
2:00:41
maintain operational control of Texas blames the Biden
2:00:44
administration for not doing enough. It has also installed
2:00:48
controversial razor wire and changed the law to allow state
2:00:52
police officers to apprehend migrants, Texas has until
2:00:57
Wednesday to comply with the cease and desist letter to stop
2:01:01
blocking access to the border. If it fails, DHS says it will
2:01:05
refer the matter to the Department of Justice to take
2:01:08
appropriate action
2:01:10
John C Dvorak: and desist letter does this suggestion.
2:01:16
Adam Curry: The boats what's the whole thing is so strange
2:01:19
because we've got the governor of Illinois Pritzker taking out
2:01:23
ads in our papers here saying please, please, Governor Abbott,
2:01:28
stop sending them to Chicago, New York is overrun. They now
2:01:33
have to have a curfew for migrants
2:01:37
John C Dvorak: they should be happy and we should mention we
2:01:39
should mention that abas total number of people sent to New
2:01:43
York for example is 10%. Yeah, the total of migrants that are
2:01:47
there have to 90% sent by our government. Yes.
2:01:52
Adam Curry: Yes. I know. But you know, then they just bring in
2:01:57
the oh what a mom and two kids died, which of course is
2:02:00
horrible. This whole thing is horrible as a human catastrophe.
2:02:04
But if you say no moss, no, that's a Spanish for no. If you
2:02:09
say no, you can't come in anymore. People will stop
2:02:13
coming. But that's not the plan.
2:02:17
John C Dvorak: Though they want it or they
2:02:19
Adam Curry: totally want an awesome beach and this is
2:02:21
happening everywhere in the world. The UK,
2:02:27
John C Dvorak: I have an international conspiracy. It
2:02:31
truly isn't
2:02:31
Adam Curry: international conspiracy. This is the UK. You
2:02:34
recall the plan there by the Conservative Party. Rishi
2:02:39
shamrock was to send them to Rwanda
2:02:44
John C Dvorak: which I still love. I
2:02:45
Adam Curry: still well, they they passed it they can send
2:02:49
them to Rwanda but nobody likes
2:02:51
Unknown: it the eyes to the right 320 the nose to the left
2:02:55
276 In
2:02:57
the end, only a handful of Conservative MPs voted against
2:03:00
the government. The promise rebellion against a new version
2:03:03
of the Rwanda plan melted away. And Rishi Sunak avoided a
2:03:07
serious political defeat on his own MPs still don't think his
2:03:12
new law is tough enough. Migrants will be able to appeal
2:03:15
their deportation too easily. Judges in the European Court of
2:03:19
Human Rights will still be able to block flights to Rwanda. We
2:03:24
have Sunak insisted making it tougher will put the UK in
2:03:27
breach of international agreements. The law will work as
2:03:31
a deterrent. It is important that we stop the votes because
2:03:35
illegal migration is simply not fair. It's not right, that some
2:03:39
people jumped the queue.
2:03:41
Adam Curry: That, by the way, is a good line in the UK. But all
2:03:44
you gotta do is hey, these people tried to jump the queue.
2:03:46
Now the pitchforks come out, that they
2:03:49
Unknown: take away our resources to help those who are the most
2:03:51
compassionate that need our most help, and by the way, Mr.
2:03:54
Speaker are exploited by gangs, and many of them lose their
2:03:58
lives making these dangerous crossing. Last year, the UK
2:04:02
Supreme Court ruled the original Rwanda plan was illegal because
2:04:06
the judges said Rwanda was not a Safe Third Country. This new law
2:04:10
aims to address those concerns, strengthen his legal status and
2:04:14
allow flights to Rwanda to start in a few months. The rebel said
2:04:19
he was still too vulnerable to legal delay. We have
2:04:23
to get people out of the country within days, not months. And the
2:04:27
operational plan behind this bill foresees that people will
2:04:31
take months to be removed from the country.
2:04:35
The Labour opposition said no version of the plan will ever
2:04:38
work. Immigration here and across Europe is a key election
2:04:42
issue. Governments everywhere are under pressure to control
2:04:46
their borders
2:04:47
Adam Curry: everywhere, everywhere, everywhere,
2:04:49
everywhere. So international conspiracy is right apnea and
2:04:55
everyone loves it because China's dead more reports
2:04:58
China's popular nation is dwindling and as the former New
2:05:02
York banker said we win because we have more people and I hear
2:05:06
more and more people saying you know we need you know people to
2:05:10
take care of our children to polish our shoes to clean our
2:05:14
toilets. We need this we need this we're very rich here we
2:05:17
need that. Where's anyway stupid I got a boots on the ground from
2:05:25
the region. From the realest region, the region would be the
2:05:29
Red Sea region regarding the the boat, the museum the tourist
2:05:37
attraction,
2:05:38
John C Dvorak: oh yes, yes, we need a boots on the ground
2:05:40
report on that.
2:05:41
Adam Curry: boots on the ground reports secondhand boots on the
2:05:43
ground here doing some significant tile work for a
2:05:46
higher up at traveler's insurance. I started talking to
2:05:50
him about supply chain you fill me in about the first boat that
2:05:53
was taken and turned into a tourist attraction. See?
2:05:57
John C Dvorak: This is good. Hilarious already.
2:05:59
Adam Curry: This is good. Travelers insures that ship. He
2:06:03
says that the ransom for the crew was $5 million, and they
2:06:06
are about to cut a check for it. The owner of the boat company
2:06:10
Meyer SC doesn't want the check to be cut but instead wants
2:06:13
travelers to send in a squad to extract the crew. Traveler says
2:06:17
No way. He's trying to get the crew released via the ransom
2:06:21
payment instead. So ransom that no one mentioned that part. I
2:06:27
John C Dvorak: haven't heard anything about a ransom. No, of
2:06:29
course, all I heard was about the tourist attraction, which I
2:06:31
still think probably bullcrap. But it's great
2:06:34
Adam Curry: story. And then, overnight, we had a little
2:06:38
kerfuffle between Iran and Pakistan. And the minute I heard
2:06:43
the report, I remembered this region.
2:06:47
Unknown: What do we know about the Pakistan strikes?
2:06:50
They say that they've targeted Aluche militants. That's a
2:06:53
separatist group that actually operates within Pakistan. But
2:06:57
they're saying they targeted them on Iranian territory. But
2:07:01
of course, this is widely being seen as retaliation or a show of
2:07:06
strength after Iran actually conducted missile and airstrikes
2:07:10
on Pakistan's territory on a militant group a few days ago.
2:07:14
So now both Pakistan and Iran have now attacked militants on
2:07:18
each other's soil, could this escalate further? It's quite
2:07:22
unclear what's going to happen next. But there are real
2:07:24
concerns and fears, particularly here in Islamabad that things
2:07:28
could escalate. Pakistan's caretaker Prime Minister was in
2:07:32
Davos for the World Economic Forum. And he has actually said
2:07:35
he's cutting short his trip and coming back to Pakistan in the
2:07:39
wake of these strikes. However, analysts have spoken to have
2:07:43
said that Pakistan probably wouldn't want an escalation, and
2:07:48
that players such as China, which has ties with both Iran
2:07:52
and Pakistan, could well step in to try and help temper down the
2:07:57
tensions.
2:07:58
And how do these exchanges fit into the wider conflict in the
2:08:01
Middle East,
2:08:02
it is quite difficult to say Iran, nations actually remain
2:08:07
quite opaque for the initial stripes. However, Iran has also
2:08:13
carried out strides on Iraq and Syria in recent days and around
2:08:17
foreign minister has indicated that it did target militants
2:08:22
that it said will link to Israel within Pakistan, though we don't
2:08:25
have a lot more information on that and Pakistan and the
2:08:28
militant group involved have not said anything on that. But
2:08:32
obviously there are concerns that it could be part of these
2:08:35
broader regional escalations. This
2:08:37
Adam Curry: is That's bull crap. This is Baluchistan. And since I
2:08:42
remember things so well Baluchistan, that is right by
2:08:45
the Afghan border. We had drones flying around all the time. This
2:08:49
was a huge problem because of pipelines, and some other
2:08:55
things. And if we go back to Episode 1273, from 2020 This was
2:09:00
one of your clips. This is about Belton road.
2:09:03
Unknown: In June, the CCP launched its plans for a
2:09:05
transportation corridor to Uzbekistan, that goes through
2:09:09
Kurdistan as business news website and telling his reports
2:09:13
whoever the program to build a railway has met with quote
2:09:16
unending construction delays. The program now relies on
2:09:20
freight shipping through Kurdistan where anti CCP
2:09:23
sentiments are growing and the issues that CCP faces in
2:09:26
Kurdistan are similar to what the Chinese regime is facing and
2:09:29
similar projects, including in Tajikistan, and Balochistan. And
2:09:33
all of these areas, China is becoming the target of terrorist
2:09:37
and nationalist movements that are increasingly viewing the
2:09:40
regime as their main enemy. To counter this, the CCP has been
2:09:44
giving training to local government forces and also
2:09:47
encouraging them to defend China's shipping lines on its
2:09:51
behalf. But it's now becoming clear this may not be enough.
2:09:55
Now, where's this all heading? When it comes to the way the
2:09:58
Chinese Communist Party is trying to protect it? supply
2:10:00
chains when it comes to shipping along this, say One Belt, One
2:10:03
Road initiative, its current method when dealing with
2:10:06
terrorist organizations and others is to get the local
2:10:09
countries to defend its own supply chains. These countries a
2:10:12
lot of times, however, do not want to get involved with
2:10:15
terrorist organizations and fighting against them on behalf
2:10:18
of the Chinese Communist Party. And so the CCP is now being left
2:10:22
with that effort. And what's it going to do well as two options,
2:10:25
one is send the Chinese military in to protect its supply chains,
2:10:30
but doing that as sensitive as well, because for example,
2:10:33
imagine that the Chinese military gets in a shootout with
2:10:35
different to say, you know, radical groups of one kind or
2:10:38
another in these countries. Well, it's gonna look a whole
2:10:40
lot like what happened in India along this border dispute where
2:10:43
the Chinese military killed around 20 Indian soldiers and
2:10:46
turn pretty much all of India against the CCP.
2:10:49
Adam Curry: This is Belton road this is someone messing with the
2:10:52
Chinese and it may be us for all I know I'm convinces us Yeah,
2:10:57
then probably and I'm also the Ron cook keeps keep coming
2:11:01
John C Dvorak: back don't let it go directly at Iran. But you
2:11:03
know what, what nation has nukes?
2:11:06
Adam Curry: Via Pakistan, India, Pakistan, Pakistan Pakistan has
2:11:10
nukes Yeah, and
2:11:11
John C Dvorak: now you want to get their phony baloney
2:11:13
conflagration with Iran and Pakistan and then a nuke goes
2:11:18
flying and hits some I don't know the Enclave or all the
2:11:21
Mulas live you know the housing development boom blow that up
2:11:26
affordable housing for the moolah affordable housing for
2:11:28
them and and oh Pakistan Oh then then you create all kinds of
2:11:35
issues because now you got to do a more bigger look at
2:11:41
disarmament and all these other things because it was careless
2:11:44
or was an accident or and we got nothing to do with it. We're
2:11:47
over here trying to be your shoot a few who's the basis? I
2:11:52
do have a three by three foot I
2:11:54
Adam Curry: was hoping you'd have on an hour time for a three
2:11:56
by three everybody experiment by JC D here we go everyone
2:12:00
comparing ABC CBS and NBC my buddy my buddy Michael actually
2:12:12
the whole band Mercy Me they always say that whenever that
2:12:16
day get happy when they hear the jingle the three by three jingle
2:12:19
they get happy. Say Happy jingles happy jingle and they're
2:12:22
just happy because they know something good is coming. We're
2:12:24
gonna we're gonna we're going to see how the media gets all of
2:12:28
its information from one source game one system one source and
2:12:33
including the sound effects everything. What do we have in
2:12:36
today's
2:12:37
John C Dvorak: first of all, we have the same big three but I do
2:12:39
have the bonus again this show BBC bonus. Always different is
2:12:44
gonna be CBC. The Scandinavian bonus. Right? Yeah. So let's
2:12:48
start with ABC,
2:12:49
Adam Curry: ABC, everybody. Here we go.
2:12:52
Unknown: desperate search for two Navy SEALs missing at sea in
2:12:55
the Gulf of Aden during that during nighttime mission. These
2:12:58
new images tonight showing the US efforts to disrupt the flow
2:13:01
of weapons to Iranian backed Houthi rebels while boarding a
2:13:05
suspected Yemeni weapons smuggling boat. One Navy SEAL
2:13:07
fell into the sea following protocol. Another senior NCO
2:13:12
jumping in after him the operation continuing with the
2:13:15
seals seizing these weapons revealed in new images tonight,
2:13:19
materials used to build missiles, the same weapons
2:13:22
deployed by the Houthis and at least 30 attacks on commercial
2:13:25
shipping vessels. That's a
2:13:27
significant operation that they haven't historically done. So
2:13:30
this shows that they're escalating their interdiction
2:13:33
operations and they're also approving things that they
2:13:36
typically do not.
2:13:38
Tonight, the Pentagon saying it launched another round of
2:13:41
airstrikes inside Yemen destroying for hooty anti ship
2:13:45
ballistic missiles prepared to launch the operation marks the
2:13:48
third round of retaliatory strikes against the Houthis
2:13:51
since Thursday amid the ongoing attack on vessels in the Red Sea
2:13:55
and the Gulf of Aden since mid November, disrupting one of the
2:13:58
world's busiest shipping routes. And National Security Adviser
2:14:02
Jake Sullivan warning there could be additional strikes,
2:14:05
we anticipated the Houthis would continue to try to hold this
2:14:08
critical artery at risk. And we continue to reserve the right to
2:14:12
take further action but this needs to be an all hands on deck
2:14:15
effort.
2:14:16
And David an official tells us the White House intends to put
2:14:19
the Houthis back on the list of foreign terrorist organizations
2:14:22
after President Biden remove the group back in 2021. Over
2:14:26
concerns that designation would cripple the enemy the Yemeni
2:14:29
economy the damage to a famine
2:14:32
Adam Curry: the enemy Oh send them into so this this navy seal
2:14:36
thing that that got all the play I think what's Trump going to
2:14:41
do?
2:14:43
John C Dvorak: Well, first of all, I want to point something
2:14:44
out in that report if
2:14:45
Adam Curry: his navy seals are are all gone, he can't use them
2:14:49
to kill his opponents.
2:14:50
John C Dvorak: Well, there's plenty of seal groups, but the
2:14:55
kid right can't kill the First Lady. So Ha First Lady. Yes,
2:15:01
yeah, they killed the first lady right there in the White House.
2:15:06
He specifically said 30 Houthi attacks on on the shipping. I
2:15:11
thought it was 150.
2:15:14
Adam Curry: Well, this is the Gulf of Aden. All of a sudden
2:15:16
this is no longer the red so yeah, but
2:15:18
John C Dvorak: it's still Houthi attacks on commercial shipping,
2:15:21
I thought was 150 attacks 150 missiles 150 something or other?
2:15:25
And he specifically said 30, not 3133 2930. When did that number
2:15:32
change?
2:15:33
Adam Curry: I don't know. But it's it's a number change. Let
2:15:35
me guess. Did everybody mentioned 30?
2:15:38
John C Dvorak: I don't know if they do. Let's find out by
2:15:39
listening to the NBC report
2:15:41
Unknown: tonight the US striking back against Houthi rebels in
2:15:44
Yemen again, destroying an anti ship ballistic missile launcher
2:15:48
that the US says was preparing to attack ships in the Red Sea.
2:15:51
We anticipated the Houthis would continue to try to hold this
2:15:55
critical artery at risk. And we continue to reserve the right to
2:15:58
take further action.
2:15:59
It comes after the Houthis hit a commercial ship with a missile
2:16:02
today. According to the US military, the Biden
2:16:05
administration now read designating the group as a
2:16:07
foreign terrorist organization. According to three US officials.
2:16:11
The goal to cut off Houthi financing. Secretary of State
2:16:14
Antony Blinken told CNBC Andrew Ross Sorkin the threat is
2:16:18
impacting commercial traffic 15%
2:16:21
of commercial traffic is going through that strait every single
2:16:23
day 30% of the world's containerships we're seeing
2:16:26
international repercussions for these attacks.
2:16:28
US officials say Iran continues to supply Houthi rebels with
2:16:32
weapons and intelligence releasing photos of these
2:16:34
Iranian missile parts headed to the rebels in Yemen. The weapons
2:16:38
intercepted when the US Navy spotted a suspicious boat in the
2:16:41
Gulf of Aden and sent in a team of US Navy SEALs. They
2:16:45
confiscated the missile parts but not before two US Navy SEALs
2:16:49
ended up in the rough waters. They are both still missing
2:16:52
tonight. The tension with Iran also playing out on land. US
2:16:57
officials say Iran launched multiple ballistic missiles into
2:17:00
northern Iraq overnight, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard
2:17:04
claiming they targeted a spy base for Israel's intelligence
2:17:07
agency Mossad in the region. US officials not confirming that
2:17:11
saying US military and diplomatic facilities were not
2:17:14
impacted and that civilians including children were killed
2:17:18
in the missile attack. Sparking protests in the streets in
2:17:22
Erbil. The White House condemning the attacks as
2:17:25
reckless and imprecise
2:17:27
Adam Curry: very different reports. Yeah, I noticed
2:17:30
different very did
2:17:31
John C Dvorak: they have the same elements of the seals and
2:17:34
then they have the bass there were no 30 They didn't have the
2:17:37
number 30 They didn't have a 30 and they didn't have and they
2:17:39
added this new thing about the attack in Iraq.
2:17:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, throw the kids you know, they're gonna lose
2:17:44
viewers with this people are zoning out the Oh, first of all,
2:17:49
you know, Windows Security defender. Okay,
2:17:53
John C Dvorak: so you have a problem? Yeah, I
2:17:55
Adam Curry: guess. Everything reboots I think this is bad for
2:18:02
ratings. People don't want know where the where the Gulf of Aden
2:18:06
is. They don't know where they'll go anything they don't
2:18:08
feel anything we know where it is because that's where the
2:18:12
that's where the portal is.
2:18:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a stargate there are you know what
2:18:17
comes in and out of that thing?
2:18:18
Adam Curry: Tell me fish.
2:18:20
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Alright, so,
2:18:25
Adam Curry: next CBS CBS CBS CB alright. CBS Come on. termI on
2:18:29
demand. The assault of guys continued today. I liked the
2:18:35
other they're connecting it to Gaza right away good.
2:18:37
Unknown: But Israel's fight against Hamas has triggered a
2:18:40
dramatic escalation in attacks across the region, the region
2:18:45
off the coast of Yemen. New Video shows Iranian backed
2:18:49
Houthi ease in a song and dance with new recruits aboard the
2:18:52
Galaxy leader cargo ship seized back in November now turned into
2:18:58
part trophy, part floating amusement park off the coast of
2:19:02
Yemen and a propaganda tool used to make a mockery of the
2:19:06
American led threats. But following last week's US UK
2:19:11
bombardment, those threats turn to action again. The US military
2:19:16
says fighter jets struck for anti ship ballistic missiles
2:19:19
preparing to launch from Houthi territory in Yemen. Barely 24
2:19:24
hours after an attack on a US operated cargo ship. A Greek own
2:19:28
ship was struck today by a Houthi missile in the Red Sea.
2:19:32
Near the coast of Somalia. The US military released these new
2:19:37
images Iranian supplied warheads and missile parts confiscated
2:19:41
from this ship headed to Houthi militants in Yemen. In an
2:19:45
operation in which two Navy SEALs were lost at sea. We'll
2:19:50
have to continue the World Economic Forum in Davos,
2:19:52
Switzerland White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan
2:19:56
said this goes beyond a regional problem. Global
2:20:00
Challenge we're talking about a vital armor artery of global
2:20:03
commerce. A critical maritime choke point that's being held
2:20:08
hostage.
2:20:10
Despite us lead attempts, the Houthi say they'll keep hitting
2:20:14
that choke point as long as Israel keeps hitting Gaza and
2:20:19
there's no sign tonight of either those battles coming to
2:20:22
an end anytime soon. Okay, so
2:20:24
Adam Curry: we have three distinct different reports and I
2:20:28
John C Dvorak: think this three by three is having an effect
2:20:31
Yes, the
2:20:33
Adam Curry: damn man does those new agenda guys are onto us. Mix
2:20:37
it up, people put the amusement park in there, which was a nice
2:20:41
touch. Now I think this this something was a surprise. It was
2:20:48
the news media has no idea there's not that don't have the
2:20:52
only sources say they have in there as well. But putting it
2:20:56
back on the terrorist list, they don't know what to do. There is
2:21:00
no central information source that is that is giving them
2:21:03
details this this was not planned something I'm having to
2:21:07
agree with something went awry. And especially if we lose some
2:21:10
seals, you know, this is not good. That's the only human
2:21:13
interest we have is the seal part of the story. So what do
2:21:19
Canadians
2:21:19
John C Dvorak: have to say about this a CBC.
2:21:24
Unknown: Even as the US and UK launched those first strikes
2:21:28
against Houthi militants last week, the US suggested more
2:21:31
would likely follow. Now they have today more Houthi military
2:21:35
targets. In this case, anti ship missiles have been hit by
2:21:39
American forces unto itself underlining that Houthi forces
2:21:44
while degraded by the earlier attacks are still able to carry
2:21:47
out strikes themselves. Indeed, word a Maltese flagged cargo
2:21:52
ship was hit today. And yesterday for the first time a
2:21:56
US owned cargo ship. Damage was minor in both cases, and there
2:22:01
were no injuries
2:22:02
in the face of naked aggression. We are not turning inward. US
2:22:06
national security adviser Jake Sullivan today in Davos,
2:22:09
Switzerland,
2:22:10
we did not say when we launched our tax they're going to end
2:22:12
once and for all, the Houthis will be fully deterred. We
2:22:15
continue to reserve the right to take further action. The
2:22:18
US said today it's not looking for war. And while the Houthi is
2:22:22
linked their attacks to supporting Palestinians in the
2:22:25
Israeli war against Hamas in Gaza. The US said again, its
2:22:29
response to the Houthi attacks is based solely on the threat to
2:22:34
the global economy. countries
2:22:36
and companies that have nothing to do with Middle East
2:22:39
whatsoever are being affected more than 50 nations in nearly
2:22:42
30 attacks. And so it's a crisis that the whole world needs to
2:22:46
respond to.
2:22:47
But it's ratcheted tensions in the region broadly. Today
2:22:51
reports the US is set to officially label Houthi rebels
2:22:55
as specially designated global terrorists, which means the US
2:23:00
will be able to block their assets among other punishments.
2:23:03
Last week, the US seized Iranian made missile components bound
2:23:07
for Yemen from an unflagged ship in the Arabian Sea. Iran backs
2:23:12
both the Houthis and Hamas
2:23:15
Adam Curry: and they got Bitcoin their nose good. Decent analysis
2:23:20
from the troll room. Navy SEALs lost at sea no ir beacons on
2:23:26
helmets no drones in sky the seals were killed in action and
2:23:30
reported as missing to avoid having to escalate that's a good
2:23:34
point.
2:23:35
John C Dvorak: That would make sense that
2:23:37
Adam Curry: would that would make sense that so they're lying
2:23:40
to us. Oh, surprise.
2:23:42
John C Dvorak: Wait, what lies in the media
2:23:46
Adam Curry: and with that, I'd like to thank you for your
2:23:48
courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea in
2:23:51
Colonel DeVore ag ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend
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John Cena
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John C Dvorak: Mr and creative Marcia, seabirds and Rafi near
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subs the word of their games and nights out there in
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Adam Curry: the morning to the trolls at to buck 24 We've got
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1817 Trolls listening in on the troll room
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John C Dvorak: that are there that's that's actually right on
2:24:19
the money.
2:24:20
Adam Curry: Money you're on the money trolls you're on the money
2:24:22
very good. Yes i i heard I was reminded the other day that
2:24:26
you're actually a colonel I'm
2:24:28
John C Dvorak: a Kentucky Colonel This is a fact Kentucky
2:24:31
Google it's not a little known as but it's lightly known. Yeah
2:24:36
Adam Curry: I'm very very proud I'm very proud to
2:24:39
John C Dvorak: tell the story on horror wish I could tell it
2:24:41
again yeah you can you can Cyrus hire I hired to give a speech in
2:24:45
Connecticut some Kentucky users we were something there was
2:24:47
something in the guy who gave the speech before was the one of
2:24:50
the editors at info world became a venture capitalist Stuart
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Alsop Yes, famous guy and I heard that he had been there the
2:24:58
year before to give the same talk. And he had been granted a
2:25:01
Kentucky Colonel ship. The guy just mentioned it in passing now
2:25:05
is that actual
2:25:07
Adam Curry: military rank is that it's
2:25:10
John C Dvorak: a Kentucky thing. Yeah, I guess his military is
2:25:13
Colonel. And so I said, Wait a minute. If he got this, I'm
2:25:19
getting one. Get me a Kentucky cry. So I got one signed by the
2:25:24
governor. The whole thing I got it's a framed on the wall.
2:25:28
Adam Curry: You should put it on your QR Zed profile.
2:25:31
John C Dvorak: What's that QR Zed? The QR
2:25:33
Adam Curry: z.com. Where all the hams have their profile.
2:25:36
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, I should. Hey, I've
2:25:39
Adam Curry: been getting some good CUSOs from people on the
2:25:41
VAR AC. It's working. It's pretty cool. Oh, you
2:25:44
John C Dvorak: got this thing up and running? Yeah, got it up and
2:25:46
running. Yeah. Been doing lots of you do it on the computer.
2:25:49
How do you as it work? It's
2:25:50
Adam Curry: on the computer. Yeah. It's like a big chat
2:25:52
program on the computer yet
2:25:53
John C Dvorak: press. Gold. That's got to be exciting. It's
2:25:56
riveting. It's
2:25:59
Adam Curry: it's riveting in the region is great. I can't I was
2:26:03
talking to Switzerland the other day on 12 watts. That's pretty
2:26:06
impressive. Yeah,
2:26:09
John C Dvorak: yeah. And you can do it window. All hell breaks
2:26:11
loose. You can still do it. That's right. That's right. A
2:26:13
friend of mine. Chris red. kowski just wrote a book called
2:26:19
How the C W life or something like,
2:26:24
Adam Curry: wow, The CW life is it this
2:26:27
John C Dvorak: is called CW life. And it's all it is is
2:26:29
about code and
2:26:30
Adam Curry: euthanasia book. What is this?
2:26:34
John C Dvorak: Just you didn't autograph it? He sent me a copy.
2:26:36
But I don't think he autographed it. I want to send it to you.
2:26:39
Because I figure you'd be Yeah.
2:26:41
Adam Curry: See, what What about it was did you read it and you
2:26:44
didn't read it?
2:26:45
John C Dvorak: It's hard to read. You know, it's talking
2:26:48
about Morse code and how great it is. And yeah, it is and CW is
2:26:54
terrific.
2:26:55
Adam Curry: That's the same as Morse code. carrier wave CW
2:26:59
that's Morse code. Yeah. I at a certain point, I could do 12
2:27:04
words a minute I was up there. You
2:27:05
John C Dvorak: are all in on CW for a long time. I thought Yeah,
2:27:09
I was I was and then and you're getting all jacked up about
2:27:13
having some of you know, 100 foot long antenna. Long Wave
2:27:18
stuffing. It's not a you know, some CW the wire
2:27:21
Adam Curry: antenna. I like wire antennas the best actually I do.
2:27:25
Like why aren't these guys with these big beams and rotators
2:27:28
after
2:27:29
John C Dvorak: this little chit chat we've just had check the
2:27:32
check the chat room now to see how many people left. Okay,
2:27:36
let's see. I'm guessing is down to 1600 after talking about ham
2:27:39
radio station. 76.
2:27:41
Adam Curry: Baby.
2:27:41
John C Dvorak: You're right. Yeah. 200 people you want to
2:27:43
talk a little more about we'll get rid of all of that killed
2:27:46
over
2:27:46
Adam Curry: dead like ah, can't listen to the CW ta Hey, man.
2:27:50
I'm just trying to spice it up a little bit. Spice it up. We got
2:27:53
a lot of hams. We got a lot of hams. We do there the core
2:27:56
group. Troll room.io is where you can listen live to the show
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All kinds of great podcasts, lots of live podcast just like
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check in it's like having a live studio audience of trolls. But
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an MMA there's some that are trolling so hard today. They
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even been been they figured out how to do incident messaging all
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those bleeps and bloops on my computer, I'd shut off my my
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sound cards crazy. Hey, buddy trying to try to get through to
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me. But the trolls, they're good. They're good. If you can
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them give people CDs, hey, listen to this. You like it? Now
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new payment method we've added which is stripe. I have no idea
2:30:41
what that is. What is stripe to
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John C Dvorak: stripe is like a competitor with square. So they
2:30:48
compete they compete a bit with Pay Pal but not exactly the
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same. But they do have it is alternative is already paid off.
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Because it turns out that in New Zealand, for example, we have a
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New Zealand, oh, they can't use a power problem. They can't use
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Pay Pal and they bitch about it. And I said and I sent one of the
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women who was complaining. I said we'll check this out. We
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just have implemented Jay did it. And that Jay is great.
2:31:19
Adam Curry: She's fantastic. She's doing all kinds of stuff.
2:31:22
And I guess no agenda donations.com That's just our
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new that we're getting rid of dvorak.org/na, which we had for
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all which children around the
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John C Dvorak: world. Just put it put a forwarding thing.
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Eventually,
2:31:34
Adam Curry: eventually, where is it? Where's the forward when you
2:31:38
find the password? Don't push and a so
2:31:43
John C Dvorak: let me finish the story, which is that she tried
2:31:45
it. And it worked fine. Oh, good. And she tried it. It
2:31:51
worked fine. She was really grateful. So this is so for
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people that are overseas and they can't use PayPal under any
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circumstances. They don't have checks because God knows you're
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going to have a check. No, because it's discouraged by the
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banks and he plays but the United States as they can't
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really donate but now they can donate and they can go to no
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agenda donations plural.com And then you can click on the stripe
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thing and you can use stripe if you want to. And it's also
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people that really don't like PayPal and even though this we
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like it yeah, that people can always send us people don't like
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it it's in this cache and there's also Yeah, you send send
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a check that's the absolute best way of doing
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Adam Curry: everybody in America everybody's bank you can
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automatically send a check it'll just be you just write it off
2:32:38
goes to the mail shows up that's fine too. And that's even better
2:32:41
because there's no fees we have check cashing fees with our bank
2:32:45
yes
2:32:46
John C Dvorak: there is at some point when you have a there's a
2:32:48
there's a limited checks once you get to like 100 checks. All
2:32:53
checks after that are charged 15 cents off the top but
2:32:56
Adam Curry: not a percentage. No no no percentage because PayPal
2:32:59
man they take these days.
2:33:01
John C Dvorak: A pal takes a lot of money. Well they all do.
2:33:04
Because it's a fee you know you gotta you gotta cough up to this
2:33:08
system.
2:33:08
Adam Curry: Yeah
2:33:10
John C Dvorak: Yep, so it's not just Pay Pal is everybody their
2:33:13
Visa, MasterCard, you name it. Bastards. Faster
2:33:18
Adam Curry: masters. Now you can also do things like make artwork
2:33:22
for the show. And our artists have been making art for many
2:33:26
years. We have a large selection that seems seems to be coming
2:33:31
back a little bit now that the no agenda art generator.com is
2:33:35
back online and fast. Thank you, Sir Paul couture, another great
2:33:38
example of of time and talent that he gave us. And we want to
2:33:42
thank capitalist agenda who bought us the artwork for
2:33:45
episode 1625 We titled that one call me Bill. And this was Lloyd
2:33:51
Austin on a milk carton.
2:33:55
John C Dvorak: Gray greatest piece of work. Yeah,
2:33:57
Adam Curry: I'd actually use that as the bat signal. And so
2:34:01
it's rare that we use the same piece of art for the bat signal
2:34:05
and for the for the episode show art but there it is. It was that
2:34:09
good. It was really we love that to capitalist agenda. Thank you
2:34:12
so much. Let us take a look and see some of the other things
2:34:17
that people had posted art wise we had. What did we have here?
2:34:24
John C Dvorak: Well, there wasn't a lot. Well,
2:34:27
Adam Curry: there was Simon hating me. That was funny.
2:34:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that was cute. There's a lot of cute
2:34:31
stuff that was probably usable if we couldn't come up with
2:34:35
anything better. Yeah.
2:34:38
Adam Curry: Some laundry stuff people like the laundry stuff.
2:34:42
John C Dvorak: And there's also Yeah, it was a lot of that
2:34:46
whereas Aaron nourish kind of cute company strict blogger had
2:34:49
a few good AI pieces that were nice.
2:34:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, there was this missile confusion that people
2:34:55
were doing missile but was the I don't remember when this
2:34:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't you'll remember that. cuz I mean
2:35:00
I mean I saw that piece but I can't remember what the joke
2:35:03
what it was referring to we have a dog food eating from the dog
2:35:06
food bowl which I guess got a lot of people's attention.
2:35:10
Scattered disgusted scare
2:35:12
Adam Curry: Manga The wash coin minor Pro that was funny fire
2:35:17
the Zoomer the thermostat. Oh, that wasn't a really good
2:35:20
thermostat. I didn't look like a thermostat that looked like an
2:35:24
old cassette recorder on the wall. I don't know what it
2:35:27
looked like. It looked kind of weird. So I think really it was
2:35:31
this was the one for the win that it was a great piece by
2:35:36
human capitalist agenda. And he this is not AI he does this
2:35:40
stuff. This is what he does, right? Okay,
2:35:42
John C Dvorak: this should take a million prompts to get this
2:35:44
piece on AI. He's got the 33 ounces on there at the bottom of
2:35:50
cute now as goodwill. No capitalist agenda is a pro. He's
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really good.
2:35:53
Adam Curry: It was beautiful work really, really well done.
2:35:55
We appreciate it. And of course, we appreciate the work that all
2:35:58
of the artists who thank you so much is just as we appreciate
2:36:01
people who will support us with with $3 $5. It doesn't matter if
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everybody chipped in. I said I said it chipped in, kept in
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these donations, things would be very short. This one's actually
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not too long. We're going to thank our executive producers
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and Associate Executive producers. This is part of the
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reward that you get just like Hollywood. Although you know you
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don't get all the benefits of Hollywood but you do get credits
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here. Karen Bauer from Vancouver, Washington,
2:36:30
Vancouver, Washington.
2:36:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Vancouver, Washington, Southern Washington
2:36:34
across from Portland is considered one of the greatest
2:36:37
places to live because you play you pay no income tax in
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Washington State. You drive across the bridge to Portland
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buy everything there because there's no sales tax. That keeps
2:36:48
the the Oregonians complained bitterly about this.
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Adam Curry: I just got a disturbing note that the the
2:36:56
milk carton was stolen and recreated Ben Garrison had it as
2:37:00
a cartoon last weekend apparently. Oh my god Stolen
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Valor.
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John C Dvorak: That message. That information must have come
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in from comic strip blogger.
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Adam Curry: No net net net net who has who has skin in the game
2:37:13
Stolen Valor. Oh, that's too bad. Anyway, back to Karen. And
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she comes in for an executive producer ship with 350 Shout out
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to the Treasure Valley Boise Idaho Meetup group A big shout
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out to the hutch man for organizing. This is my first
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treasure donation. I'll eventually catch up to my bestie
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Dame Jen ie of the Treasure Valley says Karen. All right,
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Karen. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. We really do.
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John C Dvorak: Brian in Arlington, Texas is up and he
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John C Dvorak: I don't worry if it was him. I think it'd be
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mark.
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Adam Curry: No, no, it's not. Hey, let us know Brian. What do
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John C Dvorak: he is the farthest thing from a douche.
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Adam Curry: All right. Then we finally have Lindsey
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you've got karma. And that concludes our executive and
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gonna take us through to the 50s right now.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I want to also thank Sarah for sending me
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some some nuts. You got some nuts, nuts I got a bunch of
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nuts. I also got a flute. I didn't get nuts or flute. The
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flute is impossible to play. The nuts in the field kind
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Adam Curry: of go together though and it's interesting.
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Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico our favorite place $100 I
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still get a big laugh. I think it was Lucas or somebody else
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from Roswell. It sent me a souvenir from Roswell that it
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was the low alien driver's license.
2:47:18
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Yeah. And the spinning top. Spinning so
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yeah,
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John C Dvorak: I get the same and the little driver's license
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always gets you'd give it to people when they ask for ID and
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it's always really you do that? I have done it more than once.
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Is that when you get carded at the club? And I've dealt with
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those days are over Brian Ned doe but the I would Brian you
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get to eat whoever wants to get this karting thing where? You
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say gotta love your license. This is why
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Adam Curry: my face? Yeah, look
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John C Dvorak: at me. Do I look like I'm you know, border 21
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Adam Curry: Look at me.
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John C Dvorak: Yes. No, I just totally because the boss says I
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Just to send a note in that was kind of interesting because it
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was a piece of on a piece of burnt paper.
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Adam Curry: That was a cool note. I liked that. I liked the
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whole presentation.
2:48:28
John C Dvorak: Was she's the one who sent the flute. And it's a
2:48:32
glass fluid. Dynamite I'm surprised and get blank. When
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Adam Curry: are you sure this isn't a crack pipe and you just
2:48:37
mistaking it for flu? No, believe me.
2:48:40
Unknown: Okay,
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John C Dvorak: it's got two holes all over the place. It's
2:48:44
not like doesn't look anything like a pipe at all? Well it's
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just almost I mean, I if I knew a flutist I could probably have
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something. Play it but
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Adam Curry: yeah, yeah, that's yeah. You need to pucker your
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lips. Okay, okay. Okay. Listen, let me you want me to check the
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troll room now.
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John C Dvorak: Anyway, she lost 300
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Adam Curry: We lost 300 Thanks to your fluting.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I'm trying to get rid of all she
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says she likes the she gave me a that's an instruction sheet.
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Adam Curry: I guarantee you.
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John C Dvorak: I guarantee it's not a Tracy Sullivan and Johnny
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bananas is in it at 314 They all say Hello sweet Hayward was
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Adam Curry: that was from Texas hot glass. I think that's black
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day mocha. She's from Texas hot glass. That's who makes those.
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John C Dvorak: Was the glass work is dynamite. And
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Adam Curry: she's really good. She said she sent us a thing
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back when I was still smoking a holy herb man. She sent me a
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bong. It was beautiful.
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John C Dvorak: Tom Woods donation about that. Michael
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Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. It works.
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John C Dvorak: And as one to thank all these people for
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making show 1626 1626 The great reality that it is
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Adam Curry: and thank you to all the people who What are you
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Adam Curry: Thank you to these Executive Associate Executive
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producers and the producers up to $50 We appreciate you so
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course everyone who came in under $50 All of that is just as
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appreciated in many ways more because people aren't sustaining
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donations which often add up to knighthoods. It's really isn't
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it's not an uncommon occurrence. Of course under 50 We don't read
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the notes, and I will now deliver the jobs karma and baby
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making karma as requested jobs,
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
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Adam Curry: And we add we have to add a goat for the baby
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Adam Curry: Part of the joy of being in no agenda nation Gitmo
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and to prove that they are like a party. We have the report from
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the indie meetup this is this is the I think their first one of
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the new year and Damon had put together an excellent report for
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us. He says
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Unknown: de Maria and Sir Mark Happy New Year and they tried we
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are having our first meetup here in Indy, and it's wonderful life
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on the northern coast of Indianapolis where it's subzero
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fun in the Morning John Nam this Bruce Hey,
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how Gore tried to warn us Ryan from Fishers Indiana in the
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morning in the Morning John and Adam sir PVR street gang live in
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the cold live here in Indiana in the morning, Dave Kennedy from
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Fort Wayne trying not to freeze. Thank you for your courage. Hi,
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Adam Curry: Okay, that's a meet up report right there. What a
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great crowd and they're the most pretty to all of them just
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beautiful, beautiful group and And you hear how well it is for
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your establishment? Yeah, Grand Junction brewing. They got like,
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the whole plug. They're fantastic. Often the waitstaff
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gets into it. They love being a part of the no agenda community
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as well. And you can check out the following meetups. Actually
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one is taking place today at 630 Lincoln's Roadhouse Pearl Street
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is in Denver, Colorado. The Charlotte thirsty Third Thursday
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meetup starts tonight at seven o'clock at Ed's Tavern in
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Charlotte, North Carolina. On Saturdays in New Hampshire meet
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up 1230 At revolution tap room and grill Rochester New
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the Fort Wayne view scope. northeast Indiana club 33 meet
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the North that's all on Saturday, North Carolina try had
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Carolina, North Carolina, the shrunken amygdala, support group
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two o'clock task group corium Cincinnati, Ohio the insane
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Diego meet up on Saturday 333 at roundtable pizza and Rancho
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Bernardo San Diego California, the tiny and make of Anchorage
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2023 Year in Review. Oh we're gonna do a rerun review four
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o'clock at Bear Paw Bar and Grill in Anchorage. I've been
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there. That's the one place I've been in Anchorage. Bear Paw Bar
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and Grill. Yeah, I was there one time are we doing in Anchorage?
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I was doing this back in my MTV days did an appearance. At the I
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think it was at the bear paw bar and grill or maybe some club
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right next to it. I was there for 24 hours. It was I have to
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go back. I have to go back to Anchorage. We want to do early
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John C Dvorak: state I have not visited
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Adam Curry: it. People are really cool. That's what I
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remember. Of course I was MTV guy. So maybe like who are you
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now?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're like your hair. Yeah, exactly.
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And okay, does that keep you warm that here
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Adam Curry: finally the Zen full kitchen collective and Kilgore
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mid monthly monthly meet up in Zen Zen kitchen in Kilgore,
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Texas and dirty jersey. Horeb will be your host there. These
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are just a couple of the no agenda meetups. We have one
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coming up in February and Singapore Kilkenny in March.
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That's Ireland. We have many more in Texas, Canada Navia all
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John C Dvorak: is like
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Adam Curry: we went from watching Frasier reruns to
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cheers reruns and I realized that's the cheers theme. I'm
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like, hey man, they know that they stole our no agenda meetups
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the oh wait a minute. Yeah, joke although I like our short
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version but so long at the beginning of cheers back in the
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day they thought that was cool that the long opening music
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's great. Those days are over those
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Adam Curry: days are over those days. Oh, yeah. What by the way,
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just
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John C Dvorak: a quickie before we get to the ISOs Yes, I
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watched a horrible Emmys. Oh, I
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Adam Curry: have a clip.
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John C Dvorak: I wrote it up in the newsletter for people who
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want to kind of get a some type of twist if you want to hear a
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short clip. I'd love to hear a short clip. Everybody
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Unknown: having fun at the chocolate Emmys tonight. Nailed
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it. We are killing it tonight. Tyler we are killing it tonight.
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You see this is like a man K dangereux t all rolled into one
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I mean if I was nominated this year Hale I definitely would
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have won all right. The chocolate
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John C Dvorak: Emmys. Yeah, that's pretty close to it.
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Adam Curry: What does he mean by that chocolate Emmys? Well,
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John C Dvorak: people of color quote unquote Oh
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Adam Curry: goodness. walked away with every day people of
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color.
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John C Dvorak: So people of color it includes Chinese. Yes.
3:04:25
Well, yeah. He was moist.
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Adam Curry: Moist says when he hears that he Yeah, I know.
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John C Dvorak: I know. Yeah, he's right. Yeah, it sounds like
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to me too.
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Adam Curry: I agree. So
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John C Dvorak: Koreans, a lot of Koreans want me everybody.
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Here's
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Adam Curry: what happened to the white Christians. I thought they
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were in charge of everything.
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John C Dvorak: Well, they are and I think they decided to go
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this route. Okay. The best example of the best, late night
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talk show food first of all they took they took they had to give
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John Oliver award because he's got a writing staff of about 50
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people and they all needed money. So John Oliver got pushed
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into a category called best variety show.
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Adam Curry: What is the last variety? Is there singing and
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dancing? That's
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John C Dvorak: No, I mean, yeah, once the way is a gag dancer
3:05:17
Come on, but that's ridiculous. So they gave him an award for
3:05:20
that. But so they had the best talk shows they left Gutfeld out
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of this, of course now and they had have, they had Kimmel, they
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had a late night with Stephen Colbert, and they had Jimmy
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Fallon and then they had Noah on the Comedy Central show. That
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show is over as canceled and has been cancelled is over. He's not
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even work as far as I know. It is not even there anymore. But
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chocolate
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Adam Curry: so he gets an award. Exactly.
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John C Dvorak: And the staffs and the the other guys are
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putting you know, they're a bunch of liberals and you're
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politely clapping you know, they've got bands and stabs they
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got a lot of people to feed and they're politely all it's great
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that no one and it's funny to watch.
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Adam Curry: Oh, man, oh, man. Oh, man, but it
3:06:12
John C Dvorak: was I don't know what the ratings were but it was
3:06:13
against Monday Night Football. I mean, the chocolates get
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Adam Curry: all the awards and we get Trump. I mean, this is
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not fair.
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John C Dvorak: There you have it. There you have it. No
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chocolates, chocolates,
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Adam Curry: chocolate. The chocolate Emmys degrading. Why
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do I say that man? Anyway, whatever. I only have one eye so
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you want to hear mine? Yeah, sure. It's a doozy though. Be
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careful. Yours may not stack up to it. Here we go.
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Unknown: Ah, wow. Wow,
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Adam Curry: that's a good it's a good it's not just wow, it's Ah,
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Unknown: wow. Wow. But
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John C Dvorak: I like it. I've always liked to wireless I
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usually contribute to wireless. Well, let's go with so I got
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three. Start with lies.
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Adam Curry: I don't want to hear any more of these lies. That's
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the that's from the archive. That's the classic. It's a
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classic classic. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: I got a mega mega. Yeah, okay. Okay, well,
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Mega Man again. And then the last one is podcast structure.
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Unknown: This podcast has no structure.
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Adam Curry: I think we have a winner. There you go. In a
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nutshell. Ladies and gentlemen, we have an end of show. So now
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it's time for Google JC Penney to read a note here which we got
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from Wait, where's where it was? It was from one of our
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producers. When did I erase that? What did I do with that?
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He said oh goodness. But I I have a note that I wanted to
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read but now I can't find it. So I'll look for it. Okay, what's
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your good news for today?
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Unknown: Okay, today's
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John C Dvorak: good news comes from Iowa. Iowa and it snowed in
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in Iowa and is doctors going around saving the day with his
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one of those four wheelers those little bicycle thing he said
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four weeks
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Adam Curry: ago, but it was like Doc Holloway on a four wheeler
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is that everything he could to make sure last week's winter
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storm couldn't stop him from delivering a baby.
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Unknown: Yeah, he took this ATV to Shenandoah Medical Center to
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help baby Berkeley gardener come into the world. Okay, TV news,
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watch him and Sean McCann and caught up with mom, dad and
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doctor about that snowy situation last
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Friday in Shenandoah, Iowa. Time must have felt frozen, as
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subzero temps kept people indoors. The gardeners were on
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their way to the hospital mom crystal gardener was due and Dr.
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Chase brown knew his four wheeler was the only way he
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could make it there. He cleared snowdrifts by hitting them at 20
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miles per hour, snow and everywhere I went flying in all
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directions but just keep going through to the next one. And it
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wasn't just Dr. Brown. The whole medical team braved the snow and
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cold to make sure this baby would be delivered.
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We knew he was gonna get there. They all would get there for it.
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The garters were blessed with
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a baby girl named Berkeley at Tuesday's checkup. Brown says
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she's healthy as can be.
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She's a very good baby. We couldn't have asked for more
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perfection so
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her siblings can't put her down.
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Does Leah share at all that she doesn't share much and tries
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not?
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Despite Berkeley being born in a winter storm, she
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doesn't like to be out of her blanket out of her swaddle
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nothing. And she hates the cold for
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Brown. There was never a question he'd make it. In fact,
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he's gone to three deliveries now by four wheeler again, no
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matter what's coming, for there to take care of people. And
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while time might move slowly in this small town, there's no snow
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day for a baby ready to meet the world. This is a dream come true
3:09:53
for me to be here in a small town and provide the care we can
3:09:57
in experiences like this is just how I imagine that'd be a doctor
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one day Sean McKinnon, K TV NEWSWATCH SEVEN. Ah,
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John C Dvorak: wow. No doctors like that. Except a little small
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towns around here is
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Adam Curry: beautiful. It was so nice. I feel good. I found the
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note. SOC, sent a note through fountain to podcasting 2.0 Good
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news. This is going to be a nightmare when they needed
3:10:22
another show day off three hours of good news segments is going
3:10:26
to need a disclaimer for the side effects. You nailed it,
3:10:31
brother. You nailed it. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: we're gonna cumulate
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Unknown: JC had the vibes for you and me and we all feel
3:10:42
better. Now he's done his bit, to the back
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Adam Curry: to reality. That's turning to shit. Good news,
3:10:49
everybody. We end every show with some good news. So you can
3:10:52
feel good going into the next few days without us. But of
3:10:56
course, we'll be back on Sunday to deconstruct all of the
3:10:59
world's events for you. Maybe by then we will have a new Lloyd
3:11:04
Austin. You never know. You never know you never know.
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queued up for you. Some end of show mixes. Thank you. Steph
3:11:13
Jacobson. Proud Professor Jay Jones. Producer X. I want to
3:11:17
thank the Jones brothers Neil and Steve and Marty bent for
3:11:22
some of those clips from the douchebags of Davos. Lots of
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people help with their time, talent and treasure. Why don't
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you do the same? No agenda donations.com. And if you're
3:11:33
gonna stick around for the next show live on the stream or in
3:11:38
your modern podcast that grumpy old Ben's up next on the stream
3:11:42
coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here and
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FEMA Region number six in the morning, everybody I am
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John C Dvorak: Adam curry came from Northern Silicon Valley.
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I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: We return on Sunday. More deconstruction, more news,
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more info, more clips, more boots on the ground insight,
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knowledge. And of course the humor. The comedic stylings,
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remember us, Dvorak that org slash na no agenda donations.com
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until Sunday, adios mofos a hui Hui and such
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Unknown: speaking scenes two days it is Doug's what's not to
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be thrilled about it down happy with the diet. good about what
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you're feeding.
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Now of course you really want to make the advertiser feel happy
3:12:39
if you ended up having to share your dog's food Sunday's I speak
3:12:45
from experience I mean not from the mini Apocalypse experience
3:12:49
but also from getting down on the ground that
3:12:53
was a little bad assets right
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on camera have no
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breaks my heart breaks my heart goes value for value people
3:13:17
stop right away Stop it is a Moses will be the Pro.
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Israel a pariah stays with occupation and apartheid. When
3:13:31
xenophobia, ruthlessness and intimidation, Israel is losing
3:13:36
on the grounds and in the courts of public opinion building
3:13:39
an empire based on fears and intimidation,
3:13:42
desperate acts of aggression to propose the wider conflict,
3:13:45
charismatic,
3:13:46
vicious immigrants for the destruction of the country,
3:13:50
with Lebanon with Iran with anybody to draw in the US of
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build the butcher. BUTCHER Biden is reporting for Tuesday. What's
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your approach, genocide by his side extinguishes life the
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continuation of Israeli terrorists the son of a butcher,
3:14:08
a ruthless fighter. So take notes butcher fighting, it's
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frankly deplorable and
3:14:13
wholly depressing.
3:14:16
Just keep our constants out of your mouth.
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It's important to remember who this man is. He's a xenophobic
3:14:23
killer who has aligned himself with fellow scared
3:14:26
bigots. For Joe Biden is reporting he
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is not a good man betrays a no this man is evil and never tried
3:14:33
to tell us otherwise is a noses
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genocide that Germany with your words and deeds supporting
3:14:41
Israel, the people of Europe stand with Palestine and with
3:14:45
South Africa. Christian Lord guide my hand. It's important to
3:14:50
remember who this man is for Joe Biden is reporting for duty.
3:14:54
He's a xenophobic killer who has aligned himself with
3:14:57
fellow scared and bigots. Israel
3:14:59
is loose Then, on the grounds and in the court of public
3:15:02
opinion, the people of North Stand with Palestine and with
3:15:06
South Africa.
3:15:08
What is best in my mind? For Russia enemies, see them driven
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before you hear the lamentation of the women
3:15:19
John C Dvorak: lamentation, Lamentation Lamentation
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Lamentation, lamentation, lamentation
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is where you just lament your euros woes you know the worst
3:15:52
moaning and groaning, moaning and groaning and moaning and
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groaning, groaning lamentation, Lamentation Lamentation
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Clementine lamentation limitation is good
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