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January 7th • 3h 0m

1623: Deputary

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John C Dvorak: and going nowhere.
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi Devora January 7 2024 This is
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your award winning given nation media assassination episode
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1623. This is no agenda. deconstructing decompression and
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broadcasting live from the heart of the country here and favorite
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range and number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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curry
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John C Dvorak: in northern Silicon Valley where everybody
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agrees that the NFL season is too long. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Wins the Super Bowl.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, a couple months.
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Adam Curry: Oh, that's too long. I thought it was January oh wait
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no January's the Oscar
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John C Dvorak: it used to be as a matter of fact you like
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Adam Curry: remember I remember used to be I knew that
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John C Dvorak: in us in February March I think it's February You
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Adam Curry: bet you have you read about that conspiracy about
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the the Super Bowl logo that you
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John C Dvorak: apparently Yeah, yeah, so the coolers determine
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who's gonna colors that are in the new newly designed logo at
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the beginning of the year the colors of the teams that the
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game
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Adam Curry: Hey, your volumes. I can jack you up here but you're
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really outputting low. Did you change something? Nope. Oh? Why
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do I even ask?
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John C Dvorak: What do you ask? I never change anything because
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I don't use this this whole rig except once a week twice a week
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Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just gonna jack you up
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John C Dvorak: that day it's regular. It's not
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Adam Curry: but okay. It is. I'm going to jack you up here I can
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jack you up here but that you normally I have you plus two dog
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biscuits now I've got yet five so just saying
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John C Dvorak: baby it's the connection. No, it's not the
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connection. The connection it could be it could be clean feed
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connection is protection.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. What do you got no protection here. This
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thing is no good. Oh, anyway, so it's okay I just jacked you up a
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bit. I just wanna make sure you educate the gate man. Well, well
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well well well, it was very hard for the M five M to admit what
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was really going on. What's going on now about this hole.
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This hole in the plane there's a hole in the plane. The
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John C Dvorak: hole hole in the plane there's a whole lot of way
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they made it when they first when this story first appeared.
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I don't have any clips. You probably do I do. Or maybe I do.
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I don't think I do. But whatever the case, when they first showed
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the shot of it from the inside of the plane, they made it sound
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like the sight of the plane just flew like a hole. Yeah, like a
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window and it is a door. It was a it was a door assembly. That's
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the point. And they never mentioned this until later
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reports Exactly. And what's going on, you must have some
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sides on Sunday. I do first
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Adam Curry: Let's Play. The most recent update
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Unknown: flight 1282 carrying 177 passengers was 35 minutes
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into its journey from Oregon to Ontario, California. When part
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of the fuselage was torn off leaving a hole in the side of
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the aircraft. The pilot was forced to alert aircraft control
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to the severity of the situation. We are depressurized
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but we do need to return back passengers spoke of hearing for
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emergency oxygen masks dropped video footage shot on board
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shows the dangling masks and a huge gap where the window should
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have been and the passengers themselves being remote when
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I look to my left and there's this huge chunk part of the
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airplane just like missing and extremely loud there's wind
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blowing everywhere so it was a
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trip from the plane landed safely at Portland to the relief
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of all on board among them even Smith
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there's not anything I have any control over it's just wait and
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see what happened and they said there was a kid in that row who
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his shirt was sucked off him and this
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Adam Curry: this everyone had this bit and the shirt was
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sucked I'm I'm I'm going to question that part of the
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report.
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John C Dvorak: Like there was that and then the other one
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which a lot of the way I have a report for PBS I have the PBS
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version from yesterday if you want to play it the other thing
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that kept throwing they kept throwing into the mix was the
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cell phones
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Adam Curry: Yes. Cell cell phones flew out
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John C Dvorak: now watch I questioned that because who's
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nobody's on their cell phone on these on these?
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Adam Curry: Everybody's on their cell? When's the last time you
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flew? Book COVID We everyone's on their cell phone everybody.
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They're watching movies to play in games. If coma
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John C Dvorak: if you're watching movie Yeah, then you
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wouldn't have on their phones. John,
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Adam Curry: please. Like these days there's no inflight
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entertainment. You get what you connect to the Wi Fi you can
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either pay for the Internet, or you can watch the movies on your
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phone. You need three laptops. When do you need to get out
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you're gonna grab a house and going nowhere.
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Unknown: Late today the FAA ordered the temporary worldwide
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grounding of about 171 Boeing 737 Max nines until the planes
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can be inspected. It comes after a window blew out of a month's
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old 739 Max nine last night at about 16,000 feet six minutes
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after the Alaska Airlines Flight took off from Portland, Oregon.
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The rapid depressurization sucked a t shirt off a child. No
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one was seriously hurt in the plane. They that emergency
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landing safely back in Portland.
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Adam Curry: How come no one interviewed the mom of that they
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got everybody, everybody they interviewed but they don't have
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the mom with a kid whose t shirt got sucked. I would
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John C Dvorak: think that would be one person to interview in
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the second one. This report just came out yesterday. This is from
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yesterday's PBS weekend news hour. And again, it sounded like
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a window blew out when it was an entire door assembly. Well, yes,
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this. So first, what is the reason for covering that up?
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Well,
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Adam Curry: because it's really the airlines who have made
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determinations about your safety. And this comes from our
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buddy Joe over there to NL Ria, which is airline backwards, I
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have a hardest time remembering that URL, I have to look up his
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email every single time en ILRIA. Airline reverse. Anyway.
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And Neil RIA B says, okay, he says it was a door plug that
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came off. Because Alaska Airlines with every other single
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airline sip, I think there's one, there's one, one of the low
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cost European carriers, when they receive these planes brand
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new, they have determined by law. And I don't know when this
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was or by FAA regulation don't know when this was determined
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that you only need one emergency exit per 50 seats. So these
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planes come equipped with an emergency door right there where
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the hole blew out. But then they modified these planes after they
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come off the assembly line. So they can put in a couple extra
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seats. And the door plugs that that hold that horse hold that
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assembly in place minus the slide minus all you know all the
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stuff that you would normally have there. If the door plug
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they should never blow out because this the door plug is
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that basically a fake door that's been put in there. And it
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should never blow out because of its design, which is concave.
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But this plane had previous pressurization problems. Oh,
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they didn't mention that in the report. Good work PBS. Good work
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BBC. So either they over pressurized or they may have
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been which could have been for passenger comfort 16 16,000
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feet, you're pressurizing it that well you're pressurizing
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pretty quickly actually. So over pressurization that may be they
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they under pressurized, and the thing just blew right out. But
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it's all in. So it's pilot error, probably. Or aircraft
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air. That's possible. But the bottom line is, this should just
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be an emergency door there. The way it comes off the assembly
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line, just to squeeze in a few extra seats. They might they're
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approved, of course. But if you have a hole in the plane, where
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you have a door, it comes off the assembly line like that.
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Maybe it would be modified them upfront. Instead of putting a
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door plug in there. That's really That's it makes no
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John C Dvorak: sense. Yeah. Boy, they don't care
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Adam Curry: about you. They don't care. They don't care
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about your safety at all, at all. So that's really what what
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happened is, you know, this is a modified plane where they put a
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plug in there instead of the door I will never sit next to
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that spot ever in any plane if the if I know it's there, which
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you'd have to know because you can't really tell. And so the
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reason that the fact that they really didn't talk about a door
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in most of the reports was to me a little suspicious
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John C Dvorak: and no one that is very suspicious because when
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you see the side of the plane when they find it door did show
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that it's a door I
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Adam Curry: know I know. I love that so this news model had some
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melts on her mind. You know the news now Alaska Airlines
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Unknown: is grounding its fleet of 736 Nine Max
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Adam Curry: jets after are really 736 Nine. Is that what
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you're thinking of? What are the gaff that is how do you get from
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737 Max nine to 736 Nine.
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John C Dvorak: I may have heard that a couple of times myself.
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Maybe there's just a bunch of jokers.
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Adam Curry: Maybe Maybe whatever the case all the board
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Unknown: trains good planes At
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Adam Curry: the end, just because it was a female pilot
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doesn't mean anything. In fact, it's probably the first officer
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who monitors pressurization. But there's lots of stuff going on
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with these dei hires and we've talked about it. You know, we
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know that a lot of ex navy and air force pilots can't get a job
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because the after they after they leave service because you
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have to either be gay black or female to get a job. If that's
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what all the airlines are hiring em. And this is this was a
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someone on on X was was exiting, slashing tweeting to United
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Airlines, because this person knows what's going on with with
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aviation. On July 29, the United States or at Hey, at United on
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July 29, United plane was nearly totaled after a hard landing who
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was flying that aircraft? Was it the co pilot, a former flight
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attendant who was fired and then rehired through United's dei
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program, despite being enlist and not returned to United? Am I
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correct that this individual failed multiple trainings,
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including simulator training? Am I also correct that United has
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covered up this dei disaster and many others? was the number two
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at the Denver hiring center also onboarded through Dei, did she
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or did she not change fit? Failed grades for dei hires
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because quite quote, it makes the numbers look bad. Didn't the
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instructor who failed this co pilot asked corporate why they
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passed him. This is this is a disaster that's going on. Of
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course we know all the ATC guys are stoned and drunk. They told
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us ourselves I have dad's Great. So now therefore some people on
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the trains that's what that's always how it winds up get on
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the train. So you've learned something here, you can sound
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smart now at the watercooler tomorrow. When everyone's
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talking about other stuff, you can say you know what, that was
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an actual door and they take that door out because they want
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to jam more seats in what that's that's a safety issue. That's
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what they should be looking at. Not anything else. But of
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course, you know, let's let's ground. Let's ground the whole
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fleet. And I'm sure I'm sure it's a problem. modifying it
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after the fact. So there you go. You're up to speed.
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John C Dvorak: Sounds like it.
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Adam Curry: Let's just do something completely completely
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off topic from news because I was so I was so excited to get
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this clip this morning. Normally or passed away last year, and we
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know that Norman Lear was part of the Hollywood he he started
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the Hollywood Foundation, which created a lot of propaganda
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John C Dvorak: that was actually called the Norman Lear
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foundation. Was it called
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Adam Curry: the I thought it was the Hollywood I thought it was
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the Hollywood foundation. Are you sure Miller Yeah. Hmm.
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Because we have a clip of
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John C Dvorak: the Hollywood found anything there is a
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Hollywood foundation
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Adam Curry: let me see foundation. Foundation Hollywood
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that's what it is. Hola, Leah foundation Hollywood. Oh, no,
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I'm sorry. Right. Lear Foundation, Hollywood. That's
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what it was. Health and Society. So we've talked about Norman
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Lear how influential his his his programming was. And I would say
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that we always thought the most influential was all in the
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family, which really created this Archie Bunker archetype,
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which would have been a traditional Democrat back in the
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day but was positioned as a Republican and that really
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changed certainly the United States his image of what a blue
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collar Republican looks like, right?
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John C Dvorak: was when there was no such thing there was no
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Adam Curry: well he created that he created that Magga Archie
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Bunker, oh gee Maga. So Desmond Wilson. Most people won't know
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his name. He was Lamont on Sanford and Son, legendary
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legendary show with red fox. That was what it was called
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right Sanford and Son. They ran a junkyard together he got it.
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And so Desmond Wilson is interviewed by some podcaster
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because he was asked a question about Norman Lear by some M five
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M guy and so yet he's he's got something his craw about Norman
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Lear. And in this relatively short clip, he lays out just a
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little bit more of the genius of Norman Lear. What was
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Unknown: it? What was the main point you were trying to make
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clear about Norman Lear that he wasn't involved with Sanford and
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Son as much he was given credit for it was that the main
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thing was what a lot of people missed. I said, when I saw the,
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when my agent called me and said, watch the show. I said, I
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don't want to do television, as I said, and I watched the show I
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came away thinking So this is the beginning of the dissolution
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of the patriarchal system. And on the heels of that, the
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announcer tried to cut me off. So let me let me finish. Because
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on the heels of that came married with children, and then
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all of a sudden parents became idiots and kids became all
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knowing women, young women started calling their mother bi
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tch word and rebelling. And it all started normally. I said,
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they asked me what I said, I will say this about him. He was
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a visionary. Right. But then when I heard about his political
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affiliations, it all fell into place. And I knew that I knew I
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was right on the money. No, I said, it went on, on and on and
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on ad infinitum. And what we're experiencing now is the
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evolution of what Norman Lear started with all in the family
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and nobody got it. They missed it. Totally. They said all the
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bonds talking about Northern didn't hurt. I said, people have
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been so dumbed down. Like Malcolm said, some of us were
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going to have to leave behind the to YouTube, brainwashed to
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understand
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Adam Curry: Demin Wilson, not Desmond Desmond Wilson. I just
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love that. I never considered that it started with Sanford and
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Son makes so much sense.
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John C Dvorak: Well, he himself said to start with all in the
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family. Right,
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Adam Curry: but it was yes. All in the Family. But really the
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when, when the child parent relationship broke apart was
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Sanford and Son married with children? We forget that one.
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Yeah, that wasn't Norman Lear. No, but it was a follow on and
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it was the it was the whole start of everything. It
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John C Dvorak: was the extreme version of everyday lives to
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this day. I think married with children is a cake is a curious
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genius level of programming.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Everyone loves it. Dads, we're proud of
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beyond like Ted Bundy. I sit there with my hand in my pants,
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watching the TV. People loved it was great. Yeah, the Little did
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you know, Little did you know. I'll just stick with
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transgenderism. First.
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John C Dvorak: Well, you know, it was just it's just before you
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change the subject completely. I'm not the new networks that
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have evolved from the open air digital system. And if you get
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OTA antennas, there's me TV, meaty b two, there's antenna.
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There's a bunch of these networks. And they've got
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they've got no programming. They're not going to do any. But
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there is so much stuff in the can that they're recycling it.
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So the public at large is getting to watch old black and
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white material from the late 50s and mid 60s, including Ozzie and
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Harriet. And Leave It to Beaver. And the shows which have a
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completely different mentality than any of the programming that
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came after Norman Lear. Right. And it's fascinating to watch
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some of these old dog shows that are, you know, some many of them
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are put together. Especially Leave It to Beaver. They're put
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together so so beautifully by producers back then who really
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knew what they were doing. As opposed to the kind of the slop
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that comes out today. It's it's, it's, it's very contrast the I
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don't know what effect that's going to have on the American
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psyche, but it's going to have something
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Adam Curry: I like to the two shows I like but there's one
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that I can't find any more really, but the one that I like
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on OTA is Gunsmoke guns guestbooks on
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John C Dvorak: on a couple of channels. Yeah. Guk Well, of
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course, heroes and icons, I think is that channel.
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Adam Curry: How about Little House on the Prairie?
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John C Dvorak: Lots of the praise on I
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Adam Curry: have not seen it What's that on? Where can I find
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I love little I can't remember which which
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John C Dvorak: was one of the networks is one of these screwy
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networks. I love Little House on the Prairie I read the show was
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the worst. I hated Little House on the Prairie. And the fact
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that is on now. makes you mad. Hate It makes me mad. It's so
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stupid. No,
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Adam Curry: but it was beautiful. If Have you ever read
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the books? No course not this good books that Laura Ingalls
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wrote this about the Pioneer. I mean, it was not the same as the
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TV show. Paul, the man those that it was hard times back in
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the day. Well, yeah, when they were settling, settling the
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West. Yeah, that's good stuff. But a group, the who I don't
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know if it started in the US, but there's a British group. Now
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just I want to stick a stick in the trans Maoism which of course
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Norman Lear had a hand in as to where we are today. But I find
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this so peak woke And so disturbing that this has now
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taken the UK by storm.
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Unknown: Drag syndrome is celebrating their big premiere
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in Berlin. They're Britain's first professional drag
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collective for performers with Down syndrome.
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The feeling I get from performing if the more my sales
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Hey, I'm Nick, aka initiates a cold day with Nikita
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Adam Wilde, aka
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loyal lady, to those who work and show off Gaga.
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Adam and the other members of drag syndrome take on different
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persona has went on stage and for them, it's a rebellion
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against society, and a statement for more diversity and inclusion
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for people with disabilities. Plus, it's a whole lot of fun.
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Since the group was formed in 2018, the members have toured on
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several continents. They've also performed at the famous
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Glastonbury Festival. And for the fashion magazine vote, it's
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still rare to see people with Down syndrome performing on
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stage. The dance collective wants to encourage other people
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with disabilities to pursue their passion.
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Adam Curry: This really disturbs me, I've worked with all kinds
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of Downey end
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John C Dvorak: of civilization you're playing a clip by the
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way, instead of doing that the show begin knighted pilots.
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Adam Curry: What what did you say?
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John C Dvorak: I said he should be united pilots.
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Adam Curry: A good one. So, you know, I've worked with Downey's
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in a lot of different situations as the called Downey's by the
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way and a lot of situations. And I'm sure that they love
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performing but I'm pretty sure they're not necessarily drag
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queens people who need to perform as women which is
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usually gay men. Usually. It's you know, it's this is just
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making a mockery. It's so woke and so yeah, exactly. They
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should just put them up to up in the cockpit. If you want them on
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stage and drag have them fly around. The I worked with a very
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famous Dutch Downey band called The juste band never tell the
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story. Nope, they use the band J O S T, I can look it up. They're
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still around the just the band uresti And so they would perform
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they they would perform it I think I was doing a drive in DJ
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show or something and they were there and and the way that
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certainly the the keyboardist they had a couple of keyboardist
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they on their keys they had all colors you know, so they they
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would hit the right colors orange, blue, yellow, you know,
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no know what to play so they could remember what they're
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playing. But this particular gig, they had a confetti cannon
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this confetti cannon goes off this confetti everywhere. They
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didn't know what keys to hit anymore. It was it was all over
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everything had all these different little colored balls
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on it. Good times with the Downey's okay. So anyway, I just
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found this disturbing end of civilizations it Yeah, it's
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right or being it's disturbing.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, like freak shows. Yeah, that's
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Adam Curry: exactly this like to the bearded lady. Yeah. And
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John C Dvorak: in a lot more of that. Anyway,
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Adam Curry: the 18 for you, the 18 foot man with the mitten with
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his midget wife. Oh, my goodness. So where do you want
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to go? I mean, there's been obviously been a lot of
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political news in the United States, mainly, Trump and Biden.
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Biden. Did his big January 6. Commemoration speech on January
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5, which Yeah, that sounds right was just completely lame. He was
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definitely jacked. But he wasn't overjoyed not over jacked but I
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did by chance have dinner with some friends of who are in the
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medical field here I don't want to take it too far. And I said
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what do you think he was jacked up on with without skipping a
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beat? You know my my man says Adrenochrome No, yes. And I say
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Drina comb really that easy? Yes. in powder form. You can get
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Adrenochrome in the United States powder.
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John C Dvorak: You can people should look up Audrina Chrome in
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the wicked people.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, he says that and probably some Parkinson
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drugs, which can it's like epinephrine like on steroids,
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epinephrine and steroids is but he said Adrenochrome Parkinson's
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drugs. He says you got to be careful because you can take it
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too far but he's deaf. Only jacked up on that. And it but
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the first thing you said was, yeah, is that this is not the
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old Biden, this is a different Biden, which I also thought
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looking at his hair. This hadn't been did we lose the original
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Biden? This guy doesn't look like him anymore?
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John C Dvorak: Well, that's a good question. He really
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possible I mean, I mean, obviously we've seen enough
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movies that know that this is always in the script.
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Adam Curry: Doesn't really look like the like, well, he's
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John C Dvorak: still got to st might be when did we lose him?
25:34
No. Do we lose him after the original election? Because he
25:37
still has the same cadence and he still has the same? No, no,
25:41
I'm not kidding. No joke, not a joke. When when they applause
25:46
and it's like he's triggered when there is an applause line.
25:49
Yeah, that was the real say, No, I'm not kidding. No joke. He
25:53
Adam Curry: didn't say that at all this
25:54
John C Dvorak: time. Did he? Yes, he did. I don't have a I
25:57
didn't bring a copy with me. But he did. He did the firt. The
26:01
first round of applause he got he says, No, I'm not kidding.
26:06
Okay. And I was thinking about why does he say that? If you're
26:09
a politician, and you get a round of applause. Have you been
26:13
getting rounds of applause over the years? For people telling
26:17
you to just move along? Like their words? You said something?
26:20
They get? Yeah, yeah. Clap, clap, clap. Go on to the next
26:23
topic. Yeah. So they're not taking you seriously. Because
26:28
he'll say, seriously, right. When it gets a round of
26:31
applause.
26:31
Adam Curry: I think we lost the OG Biden in the basement. Don't
26:36
you think that's where it? Where'd he the switch happened?
26:41
John C Dvorak: Well, it's definitely the same Biden that
26:43
got elected. And whether this is the original Biden, the real the
26:49
real Dubberly, Joe Biden, who is a real kind of a wise acid, a
26:57
snarky, yes. As opposed to the Joe Biden, who has hairy legs. I
27:03
got hairy legs, that Joe Biden, I think the Joe Biden was
27:06
swapped out before the election. If you're new to the new,
27:10
remember this show in our show, we played the drunk not drunk.
27:13
Yes, yes. Yeah, we play Biden clips. And those Biden clips are
27:17
reminiscent of what we're hearing today.
27:19
Adam Curry: If you're new to the no agenda show, don't worry. It
27:21
gets better. It does. I'm new to the show and they're already
27:25
talking about to Biden's I don't know, man. Have a couple of
27:30
packages here. Of of his speech. This is a roll these out ABC.
27:38
Unknown: Tonight in his first major speech of the election
27:41
year, President Biden made the case Donald Trump is an
27:44
existential threat to our democracy.
27:47
This is the first national election since January 6,
27:50
insurrection placed a dagger at the throat of American democracy
27:53
since
27:54
Adam Curry: not the worst, some there's some good writing I
27:56
liked dagger at the throat of American democracy. as writing
28:00
goes if I were writing for him, I kind of liked that one. That
28:03
moment.
28:05
Unknown: We all know Donald Trump is question we have two
28:08
answers who are way?
28:11
Adam Curry: Another interesting line? Who are we? I think that's
28:16
I think that's well thought out. Of course, when he says I'm
28:20
like, I don't know you're one of the two Biden's That's what's at
28:23
stake.
28:24
Unknown: Through our way. Biden
28:26
traveling to Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, and woking, George
28:29
Washington's words to his troops at the dawn of the American
28:32
Revolution, a sacred
28:34
cause that was a phrase used a sacred cause. freedom, liberty,
28:40
democracy. Today, we're here to answer the most important
28:43
questions. Is democracy still America's sacred cause? Now,
28:51
John C Dvorak: this was never they know, it wasn't democracy.
28:54
The sacred code of liberty? Isn't that he says that to
28:57
buddy. He has this thing about, you know, they're trying to push
29:00
this idea, this democracy idea. And they're pushing it by trying
29:05
to keep Trump off the ballot, or try to arrest him. I think
29:09
that's fascinating that everyone goes along with this. But the
29:15
hours listen about democracy, and besides that they were they
29:18
hated democracy they wanted that's why they became a
29:20
republic. Yes.
29:21
Adam Curry: But that but that's the SIOP. And I wonder if that's
29:25
still lands, it's so it's almost like saying, Hitler. It's so
29:29
overused democracy, democracy, democracy is like how do we even
29:32
lose democracy? Something we never had start with, but how do
29:34
you lose it? And then and that was our sacred what do you what
29:38
do you say exactly that was our sacred sacred cause? Maybe.
29:42
Unknown: freedom, liberty democracy. Today we're here to
29:46
answer the most important questions. Is democracy still
29:50
America's sacred cause? I
29:53
Adam Curry: think we need to ask ChaCha btw Can I be assisting?
30:03
Yes. Let's see. So, chat GPT. The question is, what is
30:07
America's sacred? Sacred? Cause? Is that what he said? Yeah, is
30:12
America's sacred cause? Let's see chat. GPT says the concept
30:18
of sacred cows can be subjective and interpreted blah, blah,
30:20
blah. Some of the core values Declaration of Independence,
30:24
constitutional values, freedom and freedom and democracy.
30:27
Number three. Down at the bottom number five American dream
30:33
that's almost off the list. It's no it's not even in the top
30:36
three.
30:38
John C Dvorak: Just getting by by overtaking Biden
30:41
Unknown: accusing Trump of using violence to clean to power,
30:44
Trump exhausted every legal avenue available to him to
30:48
overturn the election. Everyone but the legal path just to Trump
30:54
back to the truth. Okay, that I had won the election and he was
30:58
a loser.
31:02
Adam Curry: The president you know, the the the script writers
31:05
like, yeah, this will really get his goat. We'll call him a
31:08
loser. He hates it when we do that. Yeah, yeah, put it in.
31:11
That's good, that
31:12
Unknown: I'd won the election and he was a loser.
31:17
The President reminded Americans what Trump told that crowd on
31:20
January 6,
31:21
he told the crowd to fight like hell, and all hell was
31:25
unleashed. The whole world watched in disbelief. And Trump
31:30
did nothing was among the worst dereliction of duty by a
31:34
president in American history. The
31:37
President warning if Trump wins re election, the worst could be
31:40
yet to come. Trump's
31:42
not concerned about your future, I promise you. Trump is now
31:46
promising a full scale campaign of revenge and retribution. His
31:51
words?
31:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was kind of weak. Hey, you know, I was
31:55
looking at those Rangers or whatever. They were at the
31:57
monument. Did you see any of that footage?
32:00
John C Dvorak: No, I did not.
32:02
Adam Curry: So I guess there. It seemed like park rangers. They
32:05
had like Park Ranger hats on. It could have been but they gotta
32:09
like long hair dudes was really long hair that didn't sit right
32:12
with me. Sure. It
32:13
John C Dvorak: wasn't women. No, no. No.
32:17
Adam Curry: It was just like, huh. No tattoos everywhere,
32:20
which is okay, I guess that's permissible. But when you think
32:23
of park ranger, you're thinking of a guy that's, you know,
32:25
that's, that's got a buzz cut.
32:29
John C Dvorak: Oh, you're not?
32:30
Adam Curry: I don't Yeah, well, you don't think of a guy with a
32:32
mullet?
32:33
John C Dvorak: I think a guy that's what I would think. Yeah,
32:35
the guy is a park guy to do nice about nature a man there's this
32:40
chipmunk.
32:42
Adam Curry: But that's not the guy you put up front and center
32:46
is? No, no, no.
32:49
John C Dvorak: We have to get anyone else you get your dei
32:52
issue here we
32:53
Adam Curry: have. We have BIA. That's true. We have park
32:56
rangers in and get my nation so they'll let us know. Shorter
33:02
report from NBC
33:03
Unknown: tonight the Supreme Court announced that it'll hear
33:05
whether former President Trump can be banned from the ballot in
33:08
Colorado because of his role on January 6, taking up the
33:12
Republican front runners appeal of a Colorado courts ruling to
33:15
kick him off the ballot. Mr. Trump arguing it's partisan
33:18
election interference. The announcement coming just hours
33:21
after President Biden visited the Revolutionary War site at
33:24
Valley Forge. Arguing democracy is at stake in November. This
33:29
is not rhetorical academic or hypothetical. We
33:32
Adam Curry: know the significance of the
33:33
Revolutionary War Memorial. It what is that trying to tell us
33:38
that we're about to have a revolutionary war against
33:41
something and then some China what are we what is the point?
33:47
John C Dvorak: That's when America at that point is by it
33:50
might have it might be a point to with somebody like Biden,
33:53
who's at? Yes, it is pointless. It's totally pointless to the
33:58
general public has been dumbed down don't even know it. I would
34:02
say if you went on the street and ask people what was Valley
34:04
Forge? Who was valley where it was Valley Forge or anything,
34:07
you'd get a zero?
34:09
Unknown: Yeah. For the democracy is still America sacred cause
34:12
Adam Curry: it's there it is. Democracy is still our sacred
34:15
cause. It's not even on that not even number one on the list.
34:17
Unknown: Joe is the most urgent question of our time.
34:20
Adam Curry: It's the press question is not just a question,
34:23
the most urgent question.
34:25
John C Dvorak: How does he go from? It's a sacred cause? And
34:28
it's a question.
34:29
Adam Curry: Yes. Well,
34:30
John C Dvorak: how is it a question,
34:32
Unknown: most urgent question of our time.
34:34
It's the president's latest efforts to draw a contrast with
34:37
Mr. Trump, who he's warning is an existential threat. You know
34:40
Trump
34:41
in his Maga supporters not only embrace political violence, but
34:44
they laugh about it. He
34:46
Adam Curry: trumpet his Maga supporters that that's like
34:49
deplorable level. statement calling is Magga support
34:53
Unknown: Mr. Trump in Iowa firing back.
34:55
That's why crooked Joe is staging is pathetic fear
34:59
mongering. campaign event in Pennsylvania today. Did you say
35:02
you say I'm a threat to democracy? He's a threat to
35:07
democracy.
35:10
Adam Curry: I think it's good NBC put that in. And then
35:13
finally, yes, CBS.
35:18
Unknown: Kicking off the election year in battleground
35:20
state, Pennsylvania, President Biden directly attacked his once
35:24
and potentially future foe,
35:26
America. As we began this election year, we must be clear,
35:31
democracy is on the ballot. Your freedom is on the ballot.
35:37
The President rarely invokes Trump's so directly. Trump's
35:40
assault on democracy isn't just part of his past. It's what he's
35:44
promising for the future. Trump's not concerned about your
35:47
future, I promise you. Trump has now promised a full scale
35:52
campaign of revenge and retribution. There's no
35:55
confusion about who Trump is, what he intends to do.
35:59
The speech was meant to remind Americans in Trump's involvement
36:02
of the January 6 insurrection three years ago Saturday, Trump
36:06
did nothing was among the worst dereliction of duty by a
36:11
president in American history.
36:13
And it comes as the President's team believes it can try
36:16
refocusing on Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election
36:19
results as the economy turns the corner. Inflation is easing.
36:23
There was another positive monthly jobs report today. And
36:26
gas prices are hitting recent lows. Yeah,
36:28
Adam Curry: that's actually in Biden's favor. That he should be
36:31
talking more about that.
36:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, he doesn't even know. Yeah, but
36:37
let's go to that when I played Capehart and Brooks, because
36:41
they analyze this
36:43
Adam Curry: K part and Brooks.
36:47
John C Dvorak: Here's, we're gonna go with I'm trying to
36:52
decide what these two there's your decision and democracy are
36:56
but let's go to K part on Trump. This is about the this is the
37:02
level of discourse you have in the liberal elite media and what
37:06
they actually think this clip is key part on decision, the
37:11
Unknown: Supreme Court deciding today they will consider a
37:14
former President Trump's appeal of the Colorado State Supreme
37:17
Court decision to remove him from the ballot there that was
37:20
on the basis of the insurrection clause of the 14th. Amendment.
37:23
This, Jonathan puts the highest court in the land squarely in
37:27
the center of one of the hottest political battles this year.
37:30
What's your reaction to them taking this case up and how it's
37:33
going to unfold?
37:34
They have to take it up? Because this is one of those questions.
37:37
This this ballot access question. primary ballot access
37:40
question in the immunity question is never been tested in
37:44
in our lifetimes or in recent memory. And the fact that
37:49
Colorado and Maine have booted him from the ballot, Illinois is
37:56
trying to join the effort Minnesota and one other state
37:58
that skips Michigan have have said no, you have a patchwork of
38:04
States and California visions. And I think the prosecutor you
38:07
who you had on earlier, makes a good point. What we have to look
38:11
for now is whether the Supreme Court does a big broad universal
38:16
decision or goes very, very narrow. For a court that puts a
38:22
lot of emphasis and a lot of emphasis emphasis on the
38:27
Constitution and what the framers meant and strict
38:30
originalist interpretation. I'm looking forward to seeing them
38:35
maybe upholding the Colorado decision.
38:40
Adam Curry: That's not what they're going to be arguing
38:42
about. But okay.
38:45
John C Dvorak: Then he thinks they should uphold the Colorado
38:48
decision. Nobody in their right mind thinks this. Including
38:54
Brooks who says this is he thinks a world go nuts if that
38:58
happened, but this guy thinks that they should. And he's he's
39:03
a complete lunatic. And he's like one of the main analysts
39:07
for PBS along with Brooks and listen to this second clip from
39:10
him where he talks about Trump and Biden speech.
39:17
Adam Curry: On second drive, the right clip here,
39:20
John C Dvorak: the BK part on Trump, democracy, democracy. I'm
39:24
Unknown: sure you all saw President Biden deliver that
39:26
really powerful speech today at Valley Forge in Pennsylvania. He
39:29
is making the threat to American democracy a central part of his
39:33
reelection campaign. What did you make of this speech and also
39:37
him centering that message for voters? Right? Well,
39:39
this is going back to the beginning. First, this was his
39:42
fifth speech since since his election, on this theme of the
39:48
threats to democracy. This is going back to the beginning
39:50
because when he announced he was running for president in 2020.
39:54
He zeroed in on Charlottesville and talked about this was a
39:57
fight for the soul of America. The his speech today did not
40:01
have that as the title, but that's what he's talking about.
40:04
That's what he talked about today. That's what he's been
40:06
talking about in the previous four speeches. And I think it is
40:10
right for him to do this to focus to focus on that. Because
40:16
without democracy, none of the other things that Americans
40:19
want, will get done. And to make a focus on the potential
40:26
Republican nominee, someone who has said even today, saying
40:30
that, you know, I'm only going to be a dictator for one day,
40:34
and all of the other plans that we know he wants to put in place
40:37
if he wins, if he wins election again, democracy as we know, it
40:42
will end Oh, Donald Trump is reelected. Okay.
40:45
Adam Curry: I have 1k part clip, because k part not only is on
40:49
PBS, but he's also on MSNBC. This guy is a piece of work. I
40:55
mean, this is by far one of the best acting jobs I've ever seen
41:01
from a news model, which of course he is. He brings on one
41:06
of the Capitol policemen who has written a book. This is
41:11
interesting dude, by the way, barely burly dude with a beard
41:14
and a huge neck tat. And NK part introduces him and then just
41:20
falls apart.
41:21
Unknown: Joining me now in studio is Michael foreknown,
41:25
former DC Metropolitan Police Officer coverage for America
41:28
council member and author of hold the line the insurrection
41:32
and one cops battle for America's soul. Obviously for
41:36
known I'm going to try to get through this. Thank you for what
41:43
you did three years ago today.
41:48
Adam Curry: He has a hanky and everything Capehart is
41:55
fantastic.
41:57
John C Dvorak: He's an editor at the Washington Post. This is a
42:00
this is a shameful element in our news media. This joker.
42:06
Adam Curry: This is I gotta hear that again. I love how the voice
42:09
cracks he's got the hanky he's so emotional about this man who
42:15
who he's a hero he kept American democracy held held the line for
42:21
Unknown: America so obviously for known I'm gonna try to get
42:24
through this. Thank you for what you did three years ago today
42:37
John C Dvorak: on believable
42:38
Adam Curry: house great, these great more que part. I want you
42:42
he's kind of the new Van Jones in Van Jones cry and
42:46
John C Dvorak: evangelists. Band maybe is the new Van Jones.
42:50
That's an interesting point you just made Yeah. The second half
42:54
of the K part group is Brooks. Yes. You have K part and Brooks.
42:58
They do this analysis. Every Friday on the PBS NewsHour.
43:01
There's two guys agreeing with each other 90% of the time. It's
43:04
laughable. It's not you get nothing out of it. But but you
43:08
do get to hear a few interesting things. Brooks is supposed to be
43:11
the more center right? It'd be even though he's just as left as
43:16
the other guy. But listen to this is because we played a
43:20
bunch of clips of Biden in his speech. And here we go. I want
43:24
to play this. This is Brooks commenting on the Biden energy
43:29
Unknown: data. We've talked about this before. I mean, the
43:30
economy has been such a big part of their message. And even
43:33
though the data show it is doing really well, like when you look
43:37
at the big picture numbers, you've got 216,000 jobs added in
43:40
December, the inflation rates down to 3.1%. unemployment below
43:44
4% 4% rather for nearly two years and yet that isn't
43:49
catching on with voters. Is this message going to resonate? It's
43:53
important but not enough. I think it was a powerful speech.
43:55
I
43:56
think when he continues to give powerful speeches like this, he
43:58
will further rebut the idea that he's out of it. There's a
44:01
doddering old grandpa. He's clearly an energetic guy, with
44:03
passion, with fervor and with force. He's the guy running this
44:07
administration.
44:08
Adam Curry: Where's the sound effects? She didn't have a
44:11
boiling or anything in there. Come on, that you needed that. I
44:17
mean, please. Well, there was a lot about we have an opinion, by
44:21
the way from our constitutional lawyer on this 14th amendment,
44:24
section three, which I will get to first we need to have a
44:29
little mini cut. Now I must spend a moment on something that
44:32
will go on to too much attention over the next few weeks.
44:36
baseless claims by the President and his supporters. That there
44:40
has been widespread voter fraud baseless
44:43
Unknown: claims of voter fraud baseless claims of voter fraud
44:47
baseless claims of fraud baseless claims of fraud
44:50
baseless claims of voter fraud baseless claims of voter fraud
44:54
baseless
44:54
claims of voter fraud baseless
44:56
claims of voter fraud baseless claims of voter fraud.
45:00
baseless claims about voter fraud baseless claims about
45:04
voter fraud. Okay.
45:05
Adam Curry: I think we got the message. Basically that's it's
45:08
weak, baseless.
45:13
John C Dvorak: It has a base it's a claim or it's not a
45:15
claim.
45:16
Adam Curry: It's baseless. Whatever it is. It's baseless,
45:19
but every claim has a base. Does. Yes.
45:24
John C Dvorak: There's a claim there's a base to every claim
45:26
you make a claim. Unless you're claiming I don't know what you
45:29
could what is a baseless claim. I mean, the fact that they put
45:33
the talking point out there the Democrats did did a good job of
45:36
getting the media to parrot it. Yep. baseless, baseless,
45:40
baseless. It was successful. Job to Word of the Day is baseless.
45:46
Adam Curry: Alright, got
45:47
John C Dvorak: it. Got it.
45:48
Adam Curry: So let's, of course, Trump is back on the Colorado
45:51
ballot. Because the Supreme Court has said they will take
45:54
the matter up, President
45:55
Unknown: Trump is said to be certified as a candidate on
45:58
Colorado's primary ballot despite the state Supreme Court
46:01
ruling him ineligible under the 14th amendment. I want to bring
46:04
in senior Washington reporter Devin Dwyer along with senior
46:07
reporter Catherine folders for more Catherine wise Colorado
46:10
Secretary of State Certifying Trump on the GOP ballot, despite
46:14
that ruling. Alright, so this is tied up in the courts of bid
46:18
here. But the bottom line is, if an appeal of that was like how
46:21
Adam Curry: to just gloss over that, you know, it's like, well,
46:23
that's tied up in the courts a bit here. But that's the whole
46:26
point. Right.
46:27
Unknown: So this is tied up in the courts a bit here. But the
46:30
bottom line is, if an appeal of that was filed before today,
46:34
he's essentially back on the ballot. We know, the Colorado
46:38
GOP appealed to the US Supreme Court. That was on December 27.
46:42
Even Trump's attorneys effectively appealed this on
46:45
Wednesday, January 3, so that put him back on the list. That's
46:48
why he of course is scheduled to be certified on this ballot
46:52
today. So until the Supreme Court and I know Devin could
46:54
talk more about this, but until the Supreme Court essentially
46:57
picks up the case and acts by either refusing to review the
47:00
case or by somehow siding with the Colorado Supreme Court. He
47:04
is essentially effectively on the list. I
47:07
Adam Curry: love the essentially effectively. Okay, so we got
47:09
that part. So hilarious, essentially effective. Let's
47:13
bring in Devin, he'll explain what's going on here. Devin,
47:16
when
47:16
Unknown: could the US Supreme Court take the case and what's
47:19
at stake here?
47:20
Adam Curry: This is ABC. Well,
47:21
Unknown: Dan, the justices are meeting right now for their
47:24
first regularly scheduled private conference of the year.
47:27
This is when they consider petitions like President Trump's
47:31
petition, and vote on whether they'll decide to even take up
47:34
this case. Now ordinarily, something like these Trump
47:36
appeals, which just came in, in the past few days, are sort of
47:40
too soon to be considered in a conference like this. But we
47:43
know that the parties, as Catherine mentioned, have asked
47:46
the justices to expedite this, they want a decision quickly.
47:50
And that decision could come as soon as later this afternoon,
47:53
whether they will expedite consideration, not necessarily
47:56
that they'll take the case. But the justices are not on any
48:00
fixed timeline so they can rule whenever they want to. And
48:04
they're going to want to be careful. This is a historic
48:06
case, a highly divisive a political case, one of the
48:08
biggest cases politically that they will have heard or had a
48:11
chance to consider since Bush versus Gore 20 years ago. So
48:15
they're going to want to take their time and potentially take
48:17
some off ramps here. Well,
48:19
Adam Curry: I've been talking to our constitutional lawyer, Rob
48:22
Forbin. Jag he's been around, then. And he he's I put it on
48:27
the show notes his entire opinion. It's it's quite
48:30
lengthy. And he he's he really broke it all down the section
48:35
three. And he you know, he's analyzing the text the way you
48:40
read it. And of course, you have the traditionalists who might
48:44
say we have to read it in the context of when it was written.
48:47
But he goes through all that. But he says, I believe that
48:49
section three likely does indeed apply to the president, even
48:52
though it's a close call. But that probably won't be the
48:57
issue. The issue will come down to okay, then if Trump wasn't
49:03
insurrectionists, which has yet to be proven somewhere. Section
49:08
five comes into play, which reads, The Congress shall have
49:13
the power to enforce by appropriate legislation, the
49:17
provisions of this article. And you're already kind of hearing
49:20
that narrative spin up, where Okay, the Supreme Court can say
49:25
yes, they'd apply to the president, but and they probably
49:28
would put it but Congress has to determine what what sanctions
49:33
you put on this and to my knowledge that has never been
49:36
done. And when it says the Congress, I'm presuming that I
49:41
don't know what rules that would go under if it's a straight up
49:44
and down majority vote if you need a supermajority, obviously,
49:48
would be the House of Representatives and the Senate.
49:51
So that could be you know, the House would probably say yes or
49:55
no. And the Senate would probably say yes, based upon
49:57
straight party line votes. But I think this this could actually
50:01
be a gambit. In Me, possibly, because Trump wants this. He's I
50:07
want to know, let's get this out there. Does this apply to me? It
50:11
could be a boomerang effect. If, you know there's a lot of this
50:17
was that guy from Louisiana? The gruff guy. He's on the he's on
50:22
the he's on some important committee. Yummy. Kennedy. No,
50:26
no, no, no, no different guy. I forget his name. Bald guy. He's
50:32
a he's kind of a tough guy, tough guy. Okay, he was on
50:36
toggle. He was on Tucker. So he claims that there were
50:44
approximately 200 federal agents inside and in the crowd on
50:50
January 6, if that somehow comes out, and they have some kind of
50:55
we have a year to do it, basically. And we have some
50:59
hearings and then determined well hold on a second. This was
51:03
a scam. Well, then Biden would be directly involved in an
51:10
insurrection. And then it could apply to him. Wishful thinking,
51:17
maybe, but there's something up with Trump wanting this so
51:20
quickly. Yeah, we want this. We want this. There's something
51:24
going on here that I think it'll come down to Will Congress do
51:27
this? Does Congress have the power? And so now, of course, we
51:32
have to start determining if well, two things really what
51:37
really what Trump did Trump started an insurrection. What
51:41
was his role? And George Steph was flapless. That had a run
51:48
down and I guess they got to Jonathan Karl to report on Dan
51:51
Scavino, and others who were under oath. Good
51:54
Unknown: morning, and welcome to this week. As we mark three
51:57
years since the January 6 insurrection, the 2024 election
52:01
is shaping up to be a referendum on what happened that day and
52:04
what it means for the future of our democracy. That was the
52:07
theme of President Biden's first campaign speech Friday, as he
52:10
blasted Donald Trump for January 6.
52:13
blasted. Trump did nothing was among the worst dereliction of
52:18
duty by a president in American history
52:22
John C Dvorak: that's opening
52:23
Unknown: overturn a free and fair election by force and
52:25
violence.
52:27
And in Iowa this weekend, Trump responded with repeated lies
52:29
about the 2020 election and calls to free the convicted
52:33
January 6 writers whom He called hostages. This morning, we have
52:36
exclusive new reporting and what Trump was doing at the White
52:38
House on January 6 is the writer searched through the Capitol.
52:41
Chief Washington correspondent John Karl starts us off. Good
52:44
morning, John.
52:44
Good morning, George. Exclusive
52:46
Adam Curry: exclusive inside detailed reporting now Scavino
52:50
was adobe after
52:51
John C Dvorak: marriage. John Karl, a member of the Council on
52:53
Foreign Relations better the correspondence? Yes, exactly.
52:57
For lefty
53:00
Adam Curry: dance Covino was the White House Deputy Chief of
53:03
Staff before that he managed Trump's Westchester golf club.
53:08
They should have thrown that in I don't know why they missed
53:10
that. That interesting detail.
53:12
John C Dvorak: You know that you're right is don't get why
53:15
they keep missing stuff like this. They're sloppy.
53:17
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, Jonathan Karl, I guess he had his
53:20
marching orders. So he just did what you're supposed to do. Dan
53:23
Unknown: Scavino is known Donald Trump since he was 15 years old.
53:27
worked for him for more than three decades starting as his
53:30
golf caddy. Nobody inside the White House outside of family.
53:34
That's good at the golf caddy is great. Had a closer relationship
53:38
with
53:38
Him. The great days give me the most powerful man in politics
53:43
Scavino great
53:45
Adam Curry: editing. I mean, this is good. Yeah, that's the
53:47
that's the soundbite you want helped manage
53:49
Unknown: Trump's Twitter, Instagram and Facebook accounts
53:52
is also one of just a handful of people who were with Trump on
53:55
January 6, as the attack on the Capitol was unfolding. The
54:00
January 6 committee wanted to talk to him but he defied their
54:03
subpoena. After a court battle, he did finally talk to Special
54:07
Counsel Jack Smith's team of investigators Scavino his office
54:11
was just outside the Oval Office. And sources familiar
54:14
with the investigation. Tell ABC News Scavino told investigators
54:18
he went in to see Trump as soon as he saw the violence had
54:22
broken out at the Capitol. Now
54:23
Adam Curry: remember, he's already said sources familiar
54:26
with the matter. So this is all conjecture that comes now. The
54:29
next 50 seconds is all just whatever sources familiar with
54:32
the matter said no one's on
54:33
Unknown: record. And he described Trump's sitting in his
54:36
small dining room next to the Oval Office. His arms folded
54:39
staring at the television watching live coverage of the
54:43
attack on Fox News
54:44
Adam Curry: This is beautiful. There is no there is literally
54:49
this is baseless there's no evidence is just sources
54:52
baseless sources familiar with the matter now describing you
54:55
can see Trump seeing their arms folded, scowling Looking at the
55:00
television were
55:03
John C Dvorak: crazy, crazy man.
55:04
Unknown: Trump was angry Scavino told investigators According to
55:07
the sources, saying the election had been stolen from him, and
55:11
that his supporters were quote, angry on his behalf, as has been
55:15
described by the January 6 committee report. Second,
55:19
John C Dvorak: you have to give me your calves and he says, this
55:22
election was stolen from me, and they're acting on my behalf.
55:26
What do you what kind of dialogue is this?
55:29
Adam Curry: Oh, it's it's propaganda is what it is, of
55:33
course, that that's how you set the narrative. That's how you
55:36
get people to sit there and look at a half dead guy who's
55:39
president and go, you have four more years
55:41
Unknown: stolen from him, and that his supporters were quote,
55:44
angry on his behalf. As has been described by the January 6
55:48
committee report. Other advisors came in to see Trump as well,
55:52
including White House lawyers, Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows,
55:55
and eventually his daughter, Ivanka Trump, all urging him to
55:59
make some kind of statement telling his supporters to leave
56:02
the Capitol. The sources say Scavino described Trump as non
56:06
responsive and his demeanor as quote very unsettling. As he
56:10
continued staring at the TV. Soon he told investigators all
56:15
of the advisors left the room, leaving Trump alone. i
56:19
John C Dvorak: Oh, please, horses, you know, this is this
56:22
is reminding me of this of the narrative that was created. And
56:27
people older, you might even remember this. During Nixon's,
56:34
just before Nixon quit. He resigned from the presidency
56:39
because he was going to be impeached. And in the end of
56:42
media created and this goes back by the way that our media
56:46
deconstruction we could have been doing this show 30 years
56:48
ago, and it wouldn't have been much different. They created
56:53
this notion and it's again, an unsubstantiated, but it became a
56:58
practice kind of like to say it reminds me of the J. Edgar
57:02
Hoover in a dress, which turns out to be bogus. Yep. But Nixon
57:07
was crawling around on his hands and knees in the right house.
57:12
Yes, I
57:13
Adam Curry: remember that. Yes, I was young, but he I sure do.
57:17
John C Dvorak: And we get that stuck in our mind because the
57:19
media created the image of Nixon crawling around in his hands.
57:22
And he's there is no evidence of this. By
57:25
Adam Curry: the same token, I always have the image of
57:28
President Obama smoking cigarettes in the in the in the
57:33
residence watching basketball games. I mean, I'm sure that's
57:37
bull crap, too. But
57:39
John C Dvorak: that probably quit smoking. No, he never quit.
57:43
But I'm sure he watched a lot of basketball. You loved it.
57:47
Adam Curry: Okay, so now we continue with Jonathan. Carl's
57:50
reports is great reporting. Jonathan's just fabulous.
57:53
Unknown: And John, this all comes of course, is Donald Trump
57:55
is still making the 2020 election central to his 2024.
57:58
Campaign.
57:59
Yeah, in Georgia. This is a very important point. According to
58:02
our sources. If Did you?
58:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's very Yeah, I heard that. Usually
58:08
catch him better than I do. But that was odd. To his Why is he
58:11
laughing? Well, I
58:12
Adam Curry: don't know if he's laughing. But it's more like.
58:15
Unknown: Campaign. Yeah, in Georgia. This is a very
58:17
important point. He is laughing.
58:19
John C Dvorak: That is laughing. This is very, he knows is not
58:22
important. He's making this up. He's a liar.
58:25
Unknown: Yeah. And George, this is a very important point.
58:27
According to our sources. Scavino was asked directly our
58:31
sources.
58:32
Adam Curry: I mean, this is not journalism. It's just not it's
58:36
who is yourself. I mean, you could even say a source in the
58:39
White House assorted to give me the the our
58:42
John C Dvorak: sources is gossip, whether the TMZ saw
58:46
Unknown: any evidence that there was vote fraud, and enough to
58:49
overturn the results in any state.
58:51
Adam Curry: He Wait a moment, let me go back here, according
58:53
let me see what he's actually saying. In
58:56
Unknown: Georgia, this is a very important point. According to
58:58
our sources, Scavino was asked directly, whether or not he saw
59:03
any evidence that there was voter fraud and enough to
59:06
overturn the results in any state. He said, No, variations
59:10
of that exact question have been asked by virtually everybody who
59:13
served Donald Trump at the White House. And under oath, they have
59:18
said over over a grid again, that none of them saw any
59:21
evidence that the election was stolen. They may have said
59:24
different things publicly, but under oath, they deny any
59:28
knowledge that the election had significant fraud.
59:31
Adam Curry: This is fantastic. Um, so you take some knowledge,
59:34
unrelated people who are under oath and said no, no, no. And
59:38
then they tie that to Scavino, which is something sources say,
59:42
I mean, it may very well be true, but let me come on. This
59:45
is not journalism, Jonathan Karl.
59:48
John C Dvorak: So the other thing is, why are they still
59:51
fussing about this? Even Hillary after the 2016 election and
59:55
everybody was denying Trump made the you know, one It was the
1:00:00
same thing. And he they were in the Trump denialism and he was
1:00:04
not the legitimate president. And he's not my president, blah,
1:00:06
blah, blah, blah, blah. After two years of that FTA in within
1:00:12
two years that that ended, this is never ending. What why? What
1:00:17
is the reason for them? Is this. Too much of Jackie knows what is
1:00:22
the old phrase where your object too much?
1:00:27
Adam Curry: complaining too much off protest too much. The lady
1:00:34
doth protest too much. I think that's what it is. Well, I think
1:00:38
it's coming down to a showdown. Then I have the clips that will
1:00:42
possibly show us that this is true. We have the current
1:00:46
speaker of the house versus the former Speaker of the House,
1:00:49
it's going to come down to who do you trust the most?
1:00:52
Unknown: Of course, you have the trials that could take place
1:00:55
with Jack Smith's investigation. You also the Supreme Court
1:00:57
taking up this challenge to President Trump on the 14th
1:01:01
amendment. Do you believe that Donald Trump engaged in
1:01:04
insurrection?
1:01:05
Yes, I think that he engaged in insurrection, I think that he
1:01:09
incited an insurrection. And again, that he would not stop.
1:01:14
What was going on as his own people said this is your legacy
1:01:18
smoke coming from the Capitol? Is your legacy? Yes, I do
1:01:22
believe
1:01:23
Adam Curry: that who said that you believe who said that? This
1:01:26
is your legacy was that sources who said that?
1:01:29
John C Dvorak: Never heard it. I never heard all I remember which
1:01:32
they don't want to bring up especially with Nancy Pelosi
1:01:35
there. They don't want to bring up the fact that Trump requested
1:01:38
National Guard troops at the Capitol just to prevent such a
1:01:41
thing from happening. And she refused to bring them in, like
1:01:45
him that's never brought up as some sort of thing that maybe
1:01:48
defends him and
1:01:49
Adam Curry: that her daughter was there with her documentary
1:01:51
camera crew to document this. Another element that Pelosi is
1:01:56
the smoking gun here because she was she was she's part of the
1:01:59
plot. And
1:02:00
Unknown: again, that he would not stop. What was going on as
1:02:04
his own people said this is your legacy. smoke coming from the
1:02:08
Capitol is your legacy. Yes, I do believe that. It is a most
1:02:13
unfortunate situation. Our founders knew that we could have
1:02:18
a rogue president. They didn't realize that at the same time,
1:02:22
we could have a rogue Senate and Congress I do this think that
1:02:25
whatever all this happened, poop on the floor of the Congress
1:02:30
defecation blood. poop on the floor
1:02:33
John C Dvorak: was like San Francisco.
1:02:39
Adam Curry: She should be used to it poop
1:02:40
Unknown: on the floor of the Congress defecation blood.
1:02:44
disrespect for the people who maintain the capital coming
1:02:48
after pence coming after me and the rest. That
1:02:51
Adam Curry: pence coming after me in the rest. Wow, this is
1:02:53
getting good. Nance. great
1:02:55
Unknown: majority of the Republicans in the House voted
1:02:58
not to accept. So Madam Speaker.
1:03:02
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is good, because she's floundering
1:03:05
a little bit here at the end. We have a second clip. And I have a
1:03:09
feeling that she she's not sure that the case is, is is as tight
1:03:15
as people would would like to believe it is that he clearly
1:03:20
participated and incited an insurrection as a Madam
1:03:23
Unknown: Speaker. If you believe if you believe he engaged in
1:03:26
insurrection under the plain meaning of the 14th Amendment,
1:03:28
you believe he's ineligible to be president. Those
1:03:33
laws are up to the states. They have different laws from state
1:03:36
to state. I don't think he should ever have the
1:03:39
Constitution.
1:03:40
Adam Curry: Do you say something?
1:03:42
John C Dvorak: I yeah, I said no, that is shouldn't be up to
1:03:45
the states. And if it's up to the states. I hope that K parser
1:03:49
right in the Supreme Court says well, it's up to the states and
1:03:51
let the states do it. That means that Biden will be taken off the
1:03:55
Florida ballot. That was yeah, I'm just saying DeSantis already
1:04:02
said if that if this is the case, we can take Biden off the
1:04:06
Florida ballot because he's been is he's derelict of duty for
1:04:10
stopping the hordes coming in from Mexico.
1:04:14
Adam Curry: I think she's she's waffling here she's waffling
1:04:17
she's stuttering she's not certain of the case here. She
1:04:21
has this is not not airtight
1:04:24
Unknown: those law they're up to the states they have different
1:04:27
laws from state to state. I don't think he should ever as
1:04:31
the Constitution but nonetheless that
1:04:36
Adam Curry: those who sniffed there was that net I
1:04:41
Unknown: don't think he should ever as the Constitution but
1:04:43
nonetheless that
1:04:48
Adam Curry: I needed to I needed to George step back. Hold on a
1:04:52
second. I'll be good and the second bra.
1:04:54
Unknown: I don't think he should ever have been constitution but
1:04:57
nonetheless. But
1:04:59
Adam Curry: wow. See without that talk like that, for that
1:05:02
seek to
1:05:03
Unknown: state. I don't think he should ever as the Constitution,
1:05:06
but nonetheless
1:05:11
Adam Curry: I just got a hit of some remnants.
1:05:13
Unknown: There is a view of the Constitution in Article 14,
1:05:16
section three, that he should not be able to run for
1:05:20
president. But that's not the point the point now
1:05:23
Adam Curry: that's not the point. Ah, okay. What's the
1:05:26
point is
1:05:27
Unknown: that again, different states have different laws we
1:05:30
don't think in California that it, it applied in our state.
1:05:34
That's what the decision was made here. But anyway, not to go
1:05:37
into that, because that's very intricate.
1:05:40
Adam Curry: Not to go into that interesting. Yeah, you're right.
1:05:42
She does not want that to happen. But she sounds She
1:05:45
sounds worried about like, it's
1:05:46
Unknown: very clear.
1:05:48
John C Dvorak: So hold on a second stop. She said that's not
1:05:51
the point is she was gonna say the point. Does she say the
1:05:54
point you missed the point as you move to California talking
1:05:58
about California? But that's not the point. If that's not the
1:06:01
point, what's the point, let's
1:06:02
Adam Curry: figure it out, are able
1:06:03
Unknown: to run for president. But that's not the point. The
1:06:05
point now is, again, different states have different laws. We
1:06:10
don't think in California, that it, it applied. In our state,
1:06:14
that's what the decision was made here. But anyway, not to go
1:06:17
into that, because that's very intricate. What is very clear,
1:06:22
is that the American people want us to honor our oath to protect
1:06:27
and defend the Constitution of the United States. I, you know,
1:06:31
being from Baltimore, I'm proud of the national anthem. And in
1:06:34
it, it says both through the night that our flag was still
1:06:38
there, we have to prove through this campaign and the night that
1:06:42
our flag is still there, with liberty and justice for all, and
1:06:46
not have an acceptance of Confederate flags under Lincoln
1:06:50
stone, with a President sitting in the White House doing nothing
1:06:53
to stop the violence to stop the violence. He talks about the big
1:06:58
steel. As he again gauges in the big lie. This
1:07:01
Adam Curry: is my point. She has nothing she has no point. All
1:07:04
she says is well, mistakes is not the point the States is not
1:07:07
the point. Well, let's go to the current speaker of the house.
1:07:11
Mike Johnson. By the way, crazy guy believes in God he has a sky
1:07:16
daddy, gotta be careful with this guy. No separation of
1:07:19
church and state who he's very Wookiee scary. So we'll bring in
1:07:23
Margaret Brennan from CBS to grill him.
1:07:26
Unknown: 2021 You were the lawmaker who circulated the The
1:07:29
Legal Brief known as the Texas amicus brief, challenging the
1:07:33
2020 election outcome in a number of states, which by CBS
1:07:37
editorial standards makes you an election denier. Who is
1:07:40
Adam Curry: an election denied by CBS standards. Go away.
1:07:45
John C Dvorak: See me by CBS, she says by CBS editorial
1:07:51
standards, yes. Yes. Hold on. Election denier? Yes. So in
1:07:58
other words, doing what's legal and proper and going through the
1:08:02
process of of putting together this this brief? By going
1:08:07
through that process by their editorial standards? Yes, they
1:08:11
have standards. That's your election denier. Because you did
1:08:15
the work
1:08:16
Adam Curry: is great. Who runs this country, CBS News, we have
1:08:21
the standards,
1:08:23
Unknown: challenging the 2020 election outcome and the number
1:08:26
of states, which by CBS editorial standards makes you an
1:08:29
election denier? Well, can I get you on the record on that? I've
1:08:34
always been consistent on the record. Did you read the brief?
1:08:36
Did you get a chance to read what we found?
1:08:40
I have read extensively some criticisms of that, but read
1:08:43
commentary about the brief, but not what we submitted to the
1:08:45
court. Do you recognize that President Biden won the 2020
1:08:48
election? Can you just put that was
1:08:50
certified as the winner of the election, he took the oath of
1:08:52
office. He's been the president for three years. What the
1:08:55
argument that we presented to the court, which is our only
1:08:58
avenue to do so was that the Constitution was clearly
1:09:01
violated in the 2020 election. It's article two, section one,
1:09:05
and anyone can Google it and read it for themselves. The
1:09:08
system by which you choose electors to elect the president,
1:09:12
the United States must be done by the individual states and the
1:09:16
system must be ratified the state legislatures, that is
1:09:19
language plain language still have
1:09:21
issues which the validity of the 2020 election constitution
1:09:26
was violated in the run up to the 2020 election, not always in
1:09:30
bad faith, but in the aftermath of COVID. Many states change
1:09:34
their election laws in ways that violated that plain language.
1:09:36
That's just a fact. We presented that argument and that that
1:09:41
those facts to the court, and it was never directly addressed
1:09:45
because the Texas litigation but that was the only vehicle we had
1:09:49
to present that issue squarely to the court. So she has not
1:09:52
Adam Curry: read the brief. And of course he's right. We this
1:09:56
was discussed ad nauseam about the changes that were made.
1:10:00
Yeah, but that doesn't matter because you know, Liz Cheney,
1:10:03
Unknown: your colleague, Liz Cheney, your former colleague,
1:10:06
Mike Johnson, and our Republican leaders have played a
1:10:08
destructive role. You she says convinced 125 other Republican
1:10:12
members of Congress to sign on to an amicus brief that many
1:10:15
never read, that made new just
1:10:18
Adam Curry: like you didn't, just like you didn't read
1:10:20
John C Dvorak: it, like she didn't read it.
1:10:22
Unknown: Many, many never read that made numerous false factual
1:10:28
and constitutional claims. How do you respond to that? And the
1:10:32
impression that he
1:10:33
Adam Curry: should respond, Margaret, you ignorant slut,
1:10:36
that would have been funny, but no man of God won't do that,
1:10:39
Unknown: that you might have contributed in some way. I
1:10:42
don't spend much time responding to Liz Cheney's criticism these
1:10:45
days, Liz Cheney worked with the Democrats on the Jan six January
1:10:49
6, select committee to make all of this even more politicized,
1:10:54
and it was she was a close friend and colleague before she
1:10:59
said those choices. Yes, I was surprised. She's well, I'm
1:11:04
surprised that she's given that criticism because during that
1:11:06
process, Liz and I were in constant dialogue about that.
1:11:09
And at one point, she even considered signing on to that
1:11:12
bill. I'll tell you that that is a fact. That to that amicus
1:11:16
brief, and we talked about that a great length and we had a
1:11:19
difference of opinion on the law, and people can agree to
1:11:22
disagree on that. But I'm telling you that the plain
1:11:24
language of the Constitution has never changed. No left
1:11:27
Adam Curry: toe, left toe. Why is Mike Johnson laughing here?
1:11:31
Because the Constitution hasn't changed. It's ridiculous
1:11:34
Unknown: about that at great length. And we had a difference
1:11:35
of opinion on the law and people can agree to disagree on that.
1:11:39
But I'm telling you that the plain language of the
1:11:41
Constitution has never changed. What do you think that's about?
1:11:44
Adam Curry: Why is he Oh, God. He'll, what's he all laughed
1:11:48
Telly about?
1:11:49
Unknown: And what?
1:11:50
John C Dvorak: That would i I'm baffled by?
1:11:52
Adam Curry: Well, I think he's because the Constitution hasn't
1:11:55
changed. Um, so how about this? I'm so certain of what I'm
1:11:58
doing, you morons. The Constitution hasn't changed,
1:12:01
Unknown: and people can agree to disagree on that. But I'm
1:12:04
telling you that the plain language of the Constitution has
1:12:06
never changed. And what happened in many states by changing the
1:12:10
election laws without ratification by the state
1:12:12
legislatures is a violation of the Constitution. That's a
1:12:15
that's a plain fact that no one can dispute. Okay,
1:12:17
Adam Curry: we'll wrap it up. With rapid How
1:12:21
Unknown: do you make sense of the idea that you still have
1:12:25
issues with the validity of the 2020 election, but you have to
1:12:29
negotiate and talk with the President of the United States,
1:12:33
Joe Biden,
1:12:33
this is water under the bridge. I mean, when when the Supreme
1:12:35
Court passed on the Texas litigation, it did not address
1:12:39
the issue. I believe in the rule of law. This is our system, we
1:12:42
move forward. And I work with President Biden as the president
1:12:46
united states, I think that he will be a one term president.
1:12:48
But you know, this discussion about what happened in 2020? Is
1:12:52
is yesterday's news.
1:12:55
Adam Curry: There's something there that we don't understand.
1:12:57
But But Mike Johnson does, the Supreme Court passing on that
1:13:02
somehow has something to do with this. Maybe maybe our
1:13:06
constitutional lawyer can explain. But Bill, regardless,
1:13:09
we need to sigh up the American people, at least people who
1:13:14
watch MSNBC and explain how an alternate slate of basically how
1:13:21
the electoral system works. Because Nancy Pelosi was
1:13:27
partially right. He said, You know, our constitution was set
1:13:30
up to deal with a rogue president, it was really set up
1:13:34
to make sure that no nut jobs become president. That's what
1:13:38
the electoral college is about the confusion in the United
1:13:41
States. Is that you vote for the president, you don't. In fact,
1:13:47
the states, most states, I think you'll have to correct me John
1:13:51
can send a whole bunch of other people to Washington DC, for a
1:13:58
whole different candidate. It's not even up to the voters. Am I
1:14:02
correct?
1:14:03
John C Dvorak: I think it's technically possible. I don't
1:14:05
know that mechanism anymore. Doesn't happen. So it's kind of
1:14:10
it hasn't happened for I think, maybe to happen in the I think
1:14:15
this is what 1800s
1:14:16
Adam Curry: This is what was happening states were sending
1:14:19
alternate slate of electors in the mainstream media known as
1:14:23
fake electors.
1:14:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're right, they would use the
1:14:30
Adam Curry: term fake. So Roger Stone does understand this
1:14:33
process going speaking of Nixon, and Ari Melber, pulls it all
1:14:37
apart.
1:14:38
Unknown: One Trump ally, who's actually flown under the radar,
1:14:41
even in the coup case that I just mentioned, is being brought
1:14:44
by Smith. And yet he's a very famous figure Roger Stone. You
1:14:48
may recall he was flanked by Oathkeepers. On January 6, he's
1:14:52
sitting right there outside a DC hotel that we reported on stone,
1:14:58
discussing and coordinating I applaud to try to get states and
1:15:02
electors to overthrow the results that had Trump losing
1:15:06
and stone discussed this idea about Trump trying to just push
1:15:09
forward alternate electors that could type of government fraud
1:15:12
that then could sow chaos that could somehow help them steal
1:15:15
the race on the sixth. You may remember some of this has now
1:15:18
been further documented, some of it happened. Here's what we have
1:15:21
on tape.
1:15:21
Any legislative body may decide on the basis of overwhelming
1:15:27
evidence of fraud, to send electors to the Electoral
1:15:31
College, who accurately reflect and reflect the President's
1:15:35
legitimate victory in their state, which was illegally
1:15:40
denied him through fraud.
1:15:42
Now, that is what he was saying separately, and over time, we
1:15:47
know that electors who pushed actual fraud have now been
1:15:51
indicted, or civilly sued in several states. Stone denies
1:15:56
wrongdoing. He says that states could legally exercise the kind
1:16:00
of authority he discussed there. And amidst these reports, we
1:16:02
want to make sure you know that he previously posted online that
1:16:05
he never plotted the seeding of fake electors. I've interviewed
1:16:10
him before and we've asked him to come back on the beat if he
1:16:12
wants to discuss the story, but that is his public response to
1:16:15
some of this.
1:16:16
Adam Curry: Yeah, he never fake electors alternatives. Alternate
1:16:20
slate. Yeah, fake electors. No, right. Right. Right, right.
1:16:25
Right. Right, right. Yep, yep, yep.
1:16:27
John C Dvorak: But he but the Melber Alberto's?
1:16:32
Adam Curry: He's a lawyer, by the way, know, the rap Hip Hop
1:16:35
lyric quoting a lawyer. Yes. He's so cool. In the words, in
1:16:40
the words of
1:16:41
John C Dvorak: PGAS, you're just twisting there. It's called
1:16:44
alternate is twisted. Yeah,
1:16:46
Adam Curry: they're called alternates. It's, and so I think
1:16:49
this fits in with Mike Johnson saying, you know, the
1:16:52
Constitution was violated. Trump's and alternate slate, and
1:16:57
they have now been indicted or civilly sued have been okay. And
1:17:02
so no one's in jail. No one's been. No one's been been
1:17:07
convicted of anything of any wrongdoing. Certainly not to
1:17:10
being an alternate slate. I don't know that the world is
1:17:14
ultimately coming.
1:17:15
John C Dvorak: I think something's up. Yes. It is just
1:17:18
too much discussion.
1:17:19
Adam Curry: Yeah. Nancy Pelosi is is not sounding confident.
1:17:23
And Mike Johnson sounds overly confident.
1:17:27
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's cocky. Yes,
1:17:29
Adam Curry: he is. Yes, he is.
1:17:33
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, we've seen this kind of TV show
1:17:35
reminds me of what's the guy that's doing that one committee
1:17:37
who keeps coming on things and he's so overconfidence.
1:17:41
ludicrous. He hasn't done anything really one. What's one
1:17:46
guy's name? He's kind of got the round kind of a cube head cube.
1:17:51
Mini cube head.
1:17:52
Adam Curry: What topic does he
1:17:54
John C Dvorak: do? He's running one of the investigative
1:17:57
committees of the house. House investigation of something of
1:18:01
Biden. the Biden family.
1:18:05
Adam Curry: Yeah, the comer comer.
1:18:07
John C Dvorak: Comer. Yeah, I got. Yeah. Good. Cube ahead,
1:18:10
Adam Curry: cube. Comer. Boy, we're not shallow.
1:18:18
John C Dvorak: No, we're not.
1:18:20
Adam Curry: We're not superficial. Well, speaking of
1:18:22
appearances. Let's go to Nimrod.
1:18:25
Unknown: Haley's campaign recently sidetracked with a
1:18:27
voter asked about the cause of the Civil War, and she did not
1:18:30
mention slavery and answer it. She later clarified. What do you
1:18:33
say to people who say that
1:18:36
you really had challenges when it
1:18:37
comes to talking about race. We
1:18:39
were the only Indian family in our small southern town. I was
1:18:45
teased every day for being brown. So anyone that wants to
1:18:51
question it can go back and look at what I've said on how hard it
1:18:55
was to grow up in the deep south as a brown girl. The civil wars
1:18:59
always been known about slavery. I misread it and thought he was
1:19:03
looking for a bigger answer going forward. You
1:19:06
Adam Curry: got duped Nimrod duped Brown Girl in the ring.
1:19:12
Viva la noche you got duped? She got duped over done. She was in
1:19:18
money by
1:19:19
John C Dvorak: silica some Silicon Valley boys I know
1:19:21
personally. Yeah, that are largely responsible for this.
1:19:25
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
1:19:28
John C Dvorak: They talk about her she is the element she is
1:19:30
the pushed forward by the billionaire class across the
1:19:34
country and Silicon Valley is part of it. Oh, I see what you
1:19:37
mean. They don't get invited to some events. Like as if
1:19:42
Adam Curry: I got invited to a to a event with with Nimrod as
1:19:45
well here in Texas.
1:19:48
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what's Texas is is ranch at the ranch.
1:19:52
Adam Curry: went over to the ranch and one of the billionaire
1:19:55
oil guys. Sure. I should have gone just to just decipher Well
1:20:00
if at all out and it'd be a little weird. I wouldn't feel
1:20:03
comfortable Yeah, sure. Send Tina. Go sniff out Haley. See
1:20:10
what's going on with her. is no good.
1:20:15
John C Dvorak: Just kept was this little topical change of
1:20:18
pace hear
1:20:20
Adam Curry: you about Lloyd Austin? Yes. No one No one did.
1:20:25
Well, they
1:20:25
John C Dvorak: still don't. Here's Lloyd Austin is down
1:20:28
clip. Okay, here we go.
1:20:30
Unknown: Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has been in Walter Reed
1:20:33
Medical Center since Monday but the Pentagon didn't disclose it
1:20:36
until last night. And there are reports that he spent four days
1:20:40
in the intensive care unit. Austin spokesman Major General
1:20:43
Pat writer said he was admitted for complications from an
1:20:47
unspecified minor medical procedure. Today writer said
1:20:50
Austin resumed his full duties last night while still in the
1:20:53
hospital, but couldn't say when Austin would be released. It
1:20:57
this doesn't
1:20:58
Adam Curry: seem like a big deal, but it is a big deal.
1:21:00
Deal. evacs fully boosted but this guy calls shots and speak
1:21:05
enough but he calls the shots on he doesn't have to talk to the
1:21:09
President about all the things that he's doing in the two wars
1:21:13
that were involved in. And even when he went in the deputy
1:21:18
Terry, the deputy head the deputy secretary, if you write
1:21:23
that down to
1:21:27
John C Dvorak: the nature of our show people,
1:21:29
Adam Curry: that's how we do it. The Deputy Secretary of Defense
1:21:33
she was on leave. So he should never have it's like, you know,
1:21:37
if the President is going to have anesthesia, then
1:21:39
temporarily the Vice President has has the has the helm.
1:21:43
There's a whole process for that. And the same for the for
1:21:46
the for the defense secretary. This was a this was a gaffe the
1:21:51
something was very wrong with this. He may be dead already. Is
1:21:55
what some people think. Others think he's been incarcerated. I
1:22:00
love that. I love that one. That's Q anon he's been
1:22:04
incarcerated. I love I love the car.
1:22:05
John C Dvorak: I heard that the minor operation was he had his
1:22:07
balls removed.
1:22:11
Adam Curry: Thanks, Marty. I have have a couple more more
1:22:15
details on this.
1:22:17
Unknown: There are questions tonight on why top levels of the
1:22:20
federal government were not immediately told US Defense
1:22:23
Secretary Lloyd Austin was hospitalized following
1:22:27
complications from an elective procedure. The 70 year old has
1:22:31
been at Walter Reed Medical Center since January 1, A source
1:22:35
tells the Wall Street Journal often needed to be admitted to
1:22:39
the intensive care unit. Among those who did not know until
1:22:42
three days later, the President and the national security
1:22:46
adviser Jake Sullivan, Well, tonight Austin released a
1:22:49
statement saying he could have done a better job informing
1:22:52
people and he takes full responsibility. President Biden
1:22:56
says he has full confidence in the defense secretary.
1:23:00
Adam Curry: So this is interesting. So in this report,
1:23:04
they say Floyd Austin said Ah, I didn't do that. Right. It means
1:23:09
so is he in the intensive care or not? Listen again.
1:23:12
Unknown: Well, tonight Austin released a statement saying he
1:23:14
could have done a better job informing people.
1:23:17
Adam Curry: So Is he awake? Is he okay? Can he come to the
1:23:21
balcony and wave if Austin released a statement or was it
1:23:25
the Pentagon tonight
1:23:26
Unknown: a US official confirms to NBC News that the Pentagon
1:23:29
did not inform senior officials in the White House's National
1:23:32
Security Council for three days that defense secretary Lloyd
1:23:37
Austin had been hospitalized at Walter Reed Medical Center on
1:23:41
New Year's Day. Walter
1:23:42
Adam Curry: Reed I mean, I'm telling you, the incarcerated
1:23:44
bit is good. The news not
1:23:46
Unknown: shared with the American public until Friday,
1:23:49
when the Pentagon announced that Austin was hospitalized for
1:23:51
complications following a recent elective medical procedure. And
1:23:56
NBC News has learned the 70 year old Austin not just
1:23:59
hospitalized, but also in the intensive care unit for at least
1:24:03
four days. According to two senior administration officials
1:24:06
asked why his day wasn't disclosed sooner. A Pentagon
1:24:10
spokesperson tells NBC News This has been an evolving situation
1:24:14
in which we had to consider a number of factors. Oh, adding
1:24:17
Secretary Austin is recovering well and he resumed his full
1:24:20
duties at the Pentagon declining to explain
1:24:23
Adam Curry: this is different now they're saying he's back on
1:24:25
the beat. But why isn't he out on the balcony waving hers.
1:24:29
Unknown: Adding Secretary Austin is recovering well, and he
1:24:31
resumed his full duties at the Pentagon declining to explain
1:24:35
what Austin's procedure was and what complications occurred. The
1:24:39
lack of information strongly criticized
1:24:42
presidents have issues that other cabinet members have
1:24:45
issues the public is notified and there's no real
1:24:48
justification is not acceptable.
1:24:51
America's commitment to Israel is unwavering. The secretary in
1:24:55
Israel as recently as mid December, as its war with Hamas
1:24:59
resist Tension in the middle east. On Thursday, the US
1:25:02
carried out a strike that killed an Iran backed militia member in
1:25:05
Iraq while Austin was hospitalized. And
1:25:09
Ally is in Delaware tonight traveling with the president, a
1:25:11
US official ally, just moments ago tells me the President Biden
1:25:15
was not informed about Austin's hospitalization for three days,
1:25:19
either. And you're hearing from the Secretary himself tonight in
1:25:22
his statement, what's he saying? That's right, Peter, the
1:25:24
Defense Secretary taking full responsibility for what he says
1:25:28
were his decisions about disclosure, saying in part
1:25:31
quote, I recognized I could have done a better job ensuring the
1:25:34
public was appropriately informed. I commit to doing
1:25:37
better.
1:25:39
Adam Curry: So this stinks. It does sounds very Oh, yeah. You
1:25:45
need we need him waving me who's running the war machine? Maybe
1:25:51
the war machine just like hey, man, well, I
1:25:53
John C Dvorak: think the war machine can you file How about
1:25:55
this? How
1:25:56
Adam Curry: about the military industrial complex, like, went
1:25:58
to the hospital of Meo put a little machete a little knife to
1:26:01
the throat and said, Hey, man, you're not doing it. Right. We
1:26:04
need more orders. We just needed to sell some gear.
1:26:12
John C Dvorak: Maybe that's why he didn't tell anyone because he
1:26:15
didn't want that debt situation to occur. That's when he was
1:26:18
afraid. Oh, oh,
1:26:20
Adam Curry: that's even better. Huh? Huh?
1:26:26
John C Dvorak: Don't have them show any weakness. So tell Biden
1:26:31
whenever you do not rush, that's the way I would go. Don't tell
1:26:35
Biden whatever you do. You might poop his pants. Oh, I'm out now.
1:26:39
I'm fine. Don't I'm sorry. She's We didn't tell Biden us ashamed.
1:26:43
All
1:26:43
Adam Curry: good. It's all good. Okay, since since that clip
1:26:48
brought up Israel. I think we have. Yes. This was an
1:26:57
interesting development. The Israeli Defense Minister went on
1:27:03
a PR Blitz, and what you're not seeing in this is all beauty
1:27:08
shots of him looking really this that guy? He does look kind of
1:27:11
badass. He's gotta look. Yeah, got that looked at the he's got
1:27:15
the shades on with a helmet. We're at least I know. He's got
1:27:19
he's got Prime Minister written. Exactly. That's what this.
1:27:24
That's what this clip is about? Because he outlines a new phase
1:27:27
of the Gaza war to the press before he presents it to the
1:27:31
cabinet.
1:27:32
Unknown: Yeah, well, yesterday evening, Israel's defense
1:27:35
minister, you have got on so unveils his plans for the
1:27:37
postwar running of Gaza first to the press. Then he submitted it
1:27:42
to Israel's war cabinet. Now under his plans, the war would
1:27:47
continue until all hostages have been released. And until Hamas
1:27:52
has been completely eradicated, the plan then sets out how,
1:27:58
after the end of the war Palestinian organization, so
1:28:01
that would take over the running of the Gaza Strip. It does not,
1:28:05
however, specify which organizations those would be It
1:28:09
does, however, say that under no circumstances would that be
1:28:12
Hamas. It also says that there will be no Israeli civilian
1:28:16
presence in the Gaza Strip after the war. It does, however, say
1:28:20
that the Israeli military would continue to be able to carry out
1:28:24
operations in the Gaza Strip if necessary, to maintain security.
1:28:29
And now I think also worth pointing out that at this stage,
1:28:31
this is not official Israeli government policy. It is just a
1:28:35
proposal that's been put forward by the defense minister that
1:28:39
would have to be approved by the war cabinet for it to become
1:28:43
policy. Yeah. And another big question mark that the planet
1:28:46
doesn't appear to tackle is whether or not Palestinian
1:28:50
civilians who fled northern parts of the Gaza Strip to flee
1:28:54
the fighting and whether or not they would be able to return to
1:28:57
their homes, bearing in mind that much of the Northern Gaza
1:29:01
strip has been completely flattened by months of intense
1:29:04
fighting and bombardment. I
1:29:06
Adam Curry: mean, just imagine Lloyd Austin starts laying out
1:29:09
policy to the press about what we're going to do in a war any
1:29:12
war before the President that Netanyahu is on loose and hear
1:29:18
something something's going on.
1:29:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree. $100, completely,
1:29:24
Adam Curry: including this, which we discussed one or two
1:29:29
shows ago, after
1:29:30
Unknown: more than 12 weeks of war in Gaza. A fundamental
1:29:32
question remains what is to become of the strip and its
1:29:36
people. Now Israeli media reports allege a government of
1:29:40
Benjamin Netanyahu has held secret talks with the Democratic
1:29:43
Republic of Congo for a quote, voluntary resettlement plan. The
1:29:48
Times of Israel, which published the report says a senior Israeli
1:29:52
official has denied that any such discussions have taken
1:29:54
place, but Israeli cabinet members have repeatedly raised
1:29:57
the idea
1:30:00
A quick, like call on the Prime Minister and the new foreign
1:30:03
minister. This is an opportunity for planning and immigration
1:30:06
project and to encourage the migration of residents from Gaza
1:30:10
to countries of the world.
1:30:11
Adam Curry: So they got all kinds of guys out there saying
1:30:14
stuff without the president. His whole cabinet is doing press
1:30:20
press briefings.
1:30:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, this like kind of like Federal
1:30:24
Reserve. When they start. Every board member started yakking
1:30:28
away about US economy.
1:30:30
Adam Curry: Now, it's a little worse. This is his cabinet is
1:30:34
just doing a you know, we got to do this. We got to get something
1:30:37
going and we'll send him to the Congo. I love this Congo idea.
1:30:42
By the way. Yeah, Congo was great for batteries and all
1:30:45
kinds of stuff, and it's easy to spark some crap over there.
1:30:50
Meanwhile, Somalia, Somalia. You recall that Ethiopia, a new
1:30:59
BRICS country, said, Well, you know what, we're going to open
1:31:02
up a base right under Djibouti. That's our that's our turf
1:31:06
Djibouti, right there by the where the where the Houthis are
1:31:11
causing trouble by the opening of the Red Sea to the Gulf of
1:31:16
Aden. And they said we're just going to open this bass in
1:31:19
Somaliland, which is not an official country, but they've
1:31:23
organized and pretend it is and Somalia. Well, they got a call
1:31:28
from Victoria Nuland. On
1:31:29
Unknown: Saturday, Somali President Hassan Sheikh Mohammed
1:31:32
signed the law nullifying the Memorandum of Understanding
1:31:36
signed between the government of Ethiopia and Somaliland. The
1:31:40
symbolic move comes as Ethiopia, the breakaway Somali Region
1:31:43
signed a deal on January 1. As part of the hull economic and
1:31:47
political agreement, Somaliland plans to lease a 20 kilometer
1:31:51
stretch of land along its coastline to landlocked
1:31:54
Ethiopia. Somaliland President Morsi B. Abdi said the deal
1:31:59
included her statement that Ethiopia would soon recognize
1:32:02
the territory as an independent country. That is where the bone
1:32:06
of contention lies. Somaliland is a self declared Republic. It
1:32:10
has taken issue for years with the process and the legally
1:32:13
binding character of the State of Union law, which was to form
1:32:17
a unified country after Somalia and Somaliland respectively
1:32:20
gained independence from Italy and Britain, the EU chairperson,
1:32:25
if you're planning to engage without delay in negotiations to
1:32:29
settle their differences, I'm
1:32:31
Adam Curry: sorry, it's Africa today, but you can't get any
1:32:33
other reporting about this stuff. Even
1:32:36
John C Dvorak: Africa could they could find it spokes, they
1:32:39
modeled a better
1:32:40
Adam Curry: job. They have better ones. This like the
1:32:43
weekend team or something? Hey, you get in here. I know it's
1:32:50
horrible. But
1:32:52
John C Dvorak: I let's just summarize it for us. Okay.
1:32:55
Adam Curry: So, Somaliland claims independence and they are
1:32:59
the Republic of Somaliland. They are in the the eastern tip, just
1:33:03
the tip of Somalia. And they've done a deal apparently, with
1:33:09
with the BRICs. And they said, Well, you know what, we're just
1:33:12
going to work with Ethiopia, recent BRICS member and we're
1:33:15
going to just create a base because you know, Ethiopia is
1:33:18
landlocked, Ethiopia doesn't need a doesn't need a port not
1:33:21
talking about ports of base, a military base. So I'm going to
1:33:24
presume China or somebody else would have a president said this
1:33:29
cannot this will not stand under Djibouti. Which is right above
1:33:34
it is
1:33:35
John C Dvorak: too close. Yes. Right next door can't have that.
1:33:39
No, there was a shoot down to the drones as they take off. I
1:33:43
had a with a pistol. I
1:33:45
Adam Curry: have one more. I think this is the clip here. I'm
1:33:50
not sure. There was a great nap pop. Let me see. Is this the net
1:33:54
pop clip? Yes, blink and blink. So Blinken is back in the
1:33:59
region. He's in the region. Cuz he's got it. You know. She's
1:34:04
looking my president. is brain dead. I've got my my defense
1:34:09
minister is in the hospital. He's being bald. I gotta do the.
1:34:15
John C Dvorak: The boss,
1:34:16
Unknown: US Secretary of State Antony Blinken says he wants to
1:34:18
make sure the conflict in Gaza doesn't spread. This morning he
1:34:22
traveled to Jordan as part of a week long diplomatic tour aimed
1:34:25
at calming tensions. Blinken says he's particularly concerned
1:34:29
about exchanges of fire on Israel's northern border with
1:34:32
Lebanon.
1:34:34
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken week long whistlestop
1:34:38
tour is aimed at calming tensions to to spike.
1:34:42
Adam Curry: Their love they call it a whistle stop tour is kind
1:34:46
of weird. US
1:34:48
Unknown: Secretary of State Antony Blinken week long
1:34:51
whistlestop tour is aimed at calming tensions to to spike
1:34:55
Israel's war with her massive again, this is not just work a
1:34:59
data problem to see if there is genuine concern the conflict is
1:35:03
already escalating.
1:35:06
We have an intense focus on preventing this conflict from
1:35:09
spreading far too many Palestinians have been killed
1:35:13
especially children.
1:35:15
Adam Curry: This is interesting language to many pout far too
1:35:18
many Palestinians have been killed. We figured it would be
1:35:22
1000 That would be okay. It's not weird. Far too many, far too
1:35:29
many. Well, how many was okay? Was there it was their level
1:35:33
that was that was agreed to like well, you can kill a couple of
1:35:36
them.
1:35:36
Unknown: We have an intense focus on preventing this
1:35:39
conflict from spreading. Far too many Palestinians have been
1:35:42
killed, especially children. Far too many remain incredibly
1:35:49
challenged in terms of their
1:35:51
Adam Curry: access to food. This far too many is bad language for
1:35:55
water,
1:35:55
Unknown: to medicine to the essentials of life as the wheels
1:35:59
of diplomacy territories,
1:36:01
Adam Curry: the essentials life water, food, and then a big tank
1:36:04
explosion right after it's the food
1:36:06
Unknown: for water, and medicine to the essentials of life. As
1:36:10
the wheels of diplomacy turn in Gaza, there's been no letup in
1:36:15
the past three months. Israeli strikes claim more lives. food
1:36:19
and medicine are increasingly scarce. And entire neighborhoods
1:36:23
are reduced to rubble. Rubble, the UN's humanitarian chief said
1:36:28
Gaza has, quote, simply become uninhabitable. But Israel says
1:36:33
that it is making progress. Yes,
1:36:35
Adam Curry: progress. But far too many. We had agreed only
1:36:39
1500 dead, particularly children. And they just went
1:36:43
above and beyond. Can't believe them. No good.
1:36:47
John C Dvorak: Somebody's trying to make the thing spread
1:36:50
somewhere. I believe it's the Russians. Take the pressure off
1:36:55
the Ukraine situation. They got to resolve that. So they had the
1:36:59
launch 200 missiles from Hezbollah, supposedly these
1:37:03
numbers are all dubious, but they suppose the last launch 200
1:37:06
missiles what what's the point? They had to be told to do this.
1:37:10
They don't want to do it. And Lebanon doesn't like the idea,
1:37:13
but they're doing it anyway.
1:37:14
Adam Curry: Now Lebanon doesn't want any Lebanon can't use much
1:37:17
more problem. So then somebody's
1:37:21
John C Dvorak: trying to somebody's trying to stoke
1:37:24
issues, I think I believe it's the Russians because they're
1:37:26
trying to get people out who would make sense. I mean, we
1:37:31
can't the Russians are sick of this stupid Ukraine war and they
1:37:34
want to get that resolved, you know, sick
1:37:36
Adam Curry: of the Ukraine war, the Ukrainians. Oh, they left no
1:37:42
men to fight. And it's cold now. It's very cold. It's no longer
1:37:47
the fighting season. So they're just doing drones. And the
1:37:50
drones have a flaw. I mean, these are pre programmed drones,
1:37:53
a lot of them so they fly a set route and that the guys just sit
1:37:57
there and wait. Okay. Done. It goes another one. Yep. Done.
1:38:01
Here's NPR with the talk of this expansion up north. 10s
1:38:06
Unknown: of 1000s of people have been evacuated from both sides
1:38:09
of the Israel Lebanon border. Their air raid sirens blaring
1:38:13
across northern Israel today. Lebanon's Hezbollah militia says
1:38:17
it fired dozens of rockets across the border this morning.
1:38:20
And it's calling this just an initial response to the
1:38:23
airstrike that killed a Hamas leader this past week. As you
1:38:26
mentioned in Lebanon's capital, Beirut, Israel says it has sent
1:38:29
tanks artillery and airstrikes across the border into Lebanon
1:38:33
for the past few days. Israel's defense minister yo have Golan
1:38:37
inspected troops yesterday at the Northern Command and then he
1:38:40
recorded this video clip of me also OMA to Abu Mahdi fame in
1:38:46
which he says Israel prefers a political settlement with
1:38:49
Hezbollah rather than a military one,
1:38:51
but that we are quote close to the point where the hourglass
1:38:55
will turn
1:38:58
Adam Curry: Huh Well, the sad thing is if you ask the Israelis
1:39:03
or the Palestinians or the Lebanese no one wants death and
1:39:08
destruction. This is turf wars Bev Pro, probably just all money
1:39:15
related.
1:39:18
John C Dvorak: So we have another area breaking out with
1:39:20
issues mostly caused by us What?
1:39:26
Adam Curry: No, say it ain't. So what is this about now? Serb
1:39:30
John C Dvorak: elections now there's all kinds of weirdness
1:39:32
going on in Serbia. The Balkan
1:39:34
Unknown: nation of Serbia is a flashpoint in Europe struggle
1:39:37
between democracy and autocratic leaders. Russia's war in Ukraine
1:39:41
heightened Servius importance as it resists Western pressure to
1:39:44
join sanctions on Russia. Now the nation is being torn apart
1:39:48
by protests accusing the government of authoritarian
1:39:50
President Alexander Vukovich, who's a strong food now I have
1:39:54
widespread voter fraud in last month's elections. Ali Rogen has
1:39:58
more
1:40:04
In Central Belgrade chants of Bucha You are a thief. More than
1:40:07
two weeks after what protesters say was a stolen election. Lou
1:40:14
Cheech declared a sweeping mandate for his Serbian
1:40:16
Progressive Party following wins in parliamentary and local
1:40:19
elections that he called ahead of schedule, but international
1:40:23
observers say Bucha his ruling party dominates Serbian media
1:40:26
coverage and intimidates independent journalists giving
1:40:29
him an unfair advantage. On election day, there were reports
1:40:33
of violence, ballot stuffing and allegations of people getting
1:40:36
bused into different cities to vote. Since the protesters have
1:40:42
a mass in Belgrade, demanding the results being old, they've
1:40:45
paused for Orthodox Serbian holidays but will likely resume
1:40:48
in mid January.
1:40:52
People are on the street dissatisfied with the election,
1:40:55
which is obvious everyone confirmed that there has been a
1:40:58
serious disruption of the electoral process. And that is
1:41:01
why the elections have to be repeated.
1:41:05
Opposition Coalition leader Marika Teppich has been on a
1:41:08
hunger strike since the election. She addressed the
1:41:10
crowds on December 30, just before she was hospitalized.
1:41:16
I'm sorry that I can't say much. The only thing I can say is that
1:41:21
I have already said everything and that these elections must be
1:41:24
annulled.
1:41:25
Adam Curry: Well, why couldn't what was what was she
1:41:27
hospitalized? What happened?
1:41:29
John C Dvorak: She's on a hunger strike as she's about to drop
1:41:31
dead from lack of eating.
1:41:34
Adam Curry: Well, so does you think this has to do with Serbia
1:41:36
as Trump should
1:41:37
John C Dvorak: have gone on a hunger strike? You
1:41:39
Adam Curry: would still be on it. Do you think that this has
1:41:44
anything to do with Serbia being right under right next to
1:41:47
Hungary?
1:41:49
John C Dvorak: Yes, something to do with it. They tried to
1:41:51
explain it. They never do a fully a full job. The Serbian
1:41:54
guy who won by the way is just a casper milquetoast character.
1:41:58
And he's just trying to I don't know whether he won or not, or
1:42:03
how fraudulent the election was. But it's just they run this
1:42:08
story, I believe on PBS to kind of give us some parallels to
1:42:11
what Trump might try to do. Like Trump, because this guy likes
1:42:15
Putin. And you know, because everyone has to hate Putin, or
1:42:19
he's no good. And we were part of what's going on here. This
1:42:23
this. These clips are interesting as it gets on with
1:42:27
when they start discussing it with our people. Here's Luke
1:42:30
part to teach
1:42:31
Adam Curry: us. Let me rewind that. Blue teach
1:42:34
Unknown: has defended the results. He and Russia say the
1:42:37
protests were being controlled by the West,
1:42:39
me quote, some of the voting was very political. We want to steer
1:42:43
our own college. If you don't mind paying the price for all
1:42:46
the rubbish and lies, because we know what the cost is, the
1:42:51
election process will be concluded by the institutions of
1:42:55
the Republic of Serbia. For more
1:42:58
on the implications of these election results, I'm joined by
1:43:01
Edward P. Joseph. He teaches at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced
1:43:04
International Studies, and served for a dozen years in the
1:43:07
Balkans, including with the US Army, he has observed and
1:43:10
organized numerous elections in the region. Edward, thank you so
1:43:14
much for being here. First of all, can you tell us a little
1:43:16
bit about what sort of leader Alexandre Bucha, which has been
1:43:20
both internally within Serbia, and with regard to other
1:43:24
countries,
1:43:25
President Bucha, which is the classic autocratic leader, he's
1:43:29
attempting to establish thorough control of Serbia, with a veneer
1:43:34
of democracy. And that's what we see in these recent elections.
1:43:36
This is what is known as illiberal democracy. His
1:43:40
neighbor and his mentor and patron within the EU, of course
1:43:44
is Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary.
1:43:48
Adam Curry: Okay, I told you, I had gotten to do with that. So
1:43:53
John C Dvorak: this guy, this guy that they're talking to is a
1:43:56
PhD from Johns Hopkins and he Oregon that what is an American
1:43:59
organizing route elections in these areas, but what is that?
1:44:04
Well, how about explain that to me, okay. I
1:44:06
Adam Curry: will explain it to you. I will explain it from this
1:44:08
article, one election system vendor in Serbia, guess which
1:44:14
one?
1:44:17
John C Dvorak: Dominions Yes, yes.
1:44:20
Adam Curry: They even have a software development office in
1:44:24
Belgrade. There you go. Just a little point, little point.
1:44:34
John C Dvorak: So they and then Audubon, of course, who's still
1:44:38
seen as the fly in the globalist ointment is the bad guy for some
1:44:45
reason. And she's not on board with any of the bullcrap he's
1:44:50
not in this guy's like, I guess one of his protegees and this is
1:44:53
an issue with us. Us particularly is going to look
1:44:57
Unknown: three and Orban set the model for this where there's a
1:45:00
The nearer of democracy where you hold elections, but the
1:45:02
elections are actually meaningless because the ruling
1:45:06
controls has such dominance over the media landscape, the
1:45:11
opposition is weakened. The media are hugely dominated by
1:45:15
the ruling party. And in the polis activists are intimidated
1:45:20
and that's what we've seen. And so
1:45:21
John C Dvorak: that sounds like us,
1:45:22
Adam Curry: yes. Hmm.
1:45:25
John C Dvorak: Was the latest there's some, I think, was a Pew
1:45:28
or one of these guys did or Gallup did a research on the
1:45:32
media at political affiliation and something like 95% of
1:45:37
everyone who's in the media today is a Democrat. Yeah. That
1:45:43
sounds like a recipe for disaster. Where's
1:45:46
Adam Curry: the 10%? Show me that? It's not Fox News.
1:45:51
John C Dvorak: No. Well, yes. Elections
1:45:54
Adam Curry: Newsmax I'm sorry Newsmax there it is. But that's
1:45:57
Cuomo, kids. One
1:45:59
John C Dvorak: One American news. No, that's it. One
1:46:01
American news. One American news. Yeah, that's it. That one
1:46:03
Oh, word made up girl. Sir, Serb elections rigged for
1:46:09
Unknown: and there was nothing requiring these elections to be
1:46:11
held at this time. So why did he call for these elections at this
1:46:14
time? Well,
1:46:15
that's exactly right. These are again, early elections. And the
1:46:20
best explanation for them is that President Bush which, as a
1:46:24
result in large part mistaken US policy, by the by the
1:46:27
administration, was in a crisis in late September, there was a
1:46:33
shocking confrontation in the north of Kosovo. This is where
1:46:37
NATO troops, including US troops are deployed. And the Kosovo
1:46:42
Police patrol have been a Serb militia group heavily armed that
1:46:46
could not have entered into Kosovo without Serbian
1:46:50
authorities known and of course, that immediately cast suspicion
1:46:54
on President Bucha himself and this attack which led
1:47:00
John C Dvorak: so we can go in there. Fix the next door
1:47:04
neighbor can't go in there.
1:47:05
Adam Curry: How could you mean Hungary? No,
1:47:07
John C Dvorak: no, they have no Serbia. Right is the next door
1:47:11
neighbor to Kosovo? Oh, yes. So they can go in we can go were
1:47:15
there and UN's there but who did they can go in? Okay. I just
1:47:18
wanted to make sure that everyone
1:47:19
Adam Curry: guys there's been there's been problems in the
1:47:22
region in the past. So we should go in, of course, we create the
1:47:26
problem. We were dicks.
1:47:30
Unknown: And of course, that immediately cast suspicion on
1:47:33
President voltage himself. And this attack which led to a
1:47:38
shootout in the north killing cause a police officer and three
1:47:41
serves was a huge shock, because it showed in fact that the US
1:47:46
policy of trying to supplicate a placate President voltage and
1:47:51
somehow bring him over from autocratic pro hungry pro Russia
1:47:57
orientation had failed. It was that crisis very likely, that
1:48:01
President Bush wanted to put behind him reestablish his
1:48:05
authority as as the sole preeminent political figure in
1:48:09
Serbia and move forward. But it turns out that that is not going
1:48:13
to be quite as simple as he thought.
1:48:16
Adam Curry: Right? So it's it's strategic for the region. And we
1:48:20
want to make it into someone who dances to our pipes. Exactly.
1:48:24
John C Dvorak: Of course. orb is enough of a pain in the ass. We
1:48:29
don't need this joker.
1:48:31
Adam Curry: Where did these guys get the time to think about all
1:48:33
this? Where
1:48:34
John C Dvorak: do idea Where's Hopkins is part of the problem.
1:48:37
Where's
1:48:37
Adam Curry: Victoria Nuland? Let me see Victoria.
1:48:40
John C Dvorak: She's probably been there, Victoria. Let's say
1:48:42
you're looking her up play the last clip.
1:48:44
Unknown: So let's talk a little bit more about US policy towards
1:48:47
Serbia and the different priorities that the United
1:48:49
States is balancing. How have they approached Alexandra
1:48:52
fruitage. What do you make of their response to this crisis?
1:48:56
I would say this about US policy, which has got again,
1:49:01
brought us to the this brink. President Biden has gotten the
1:49:04
Balkans right. Consistently, President Biden himself
1:49:08
understands the region and he set off his administration with
1:49:11
the words that we are in a challenge of democracy versus
1:49:14
autocracy. So President Biden has gotten it right. But as the
1:49:18
administration has gotten to completely wrong, they've
1:49:20
abandoned that. So we have a disparity in the Balkans where
1:49:24
the United States treats Serbia as neighbors to a much harsher,
1:49:30
higher standard. And I should point out we've had two violent
1:49:34
confrontations in Kosovo this year, we've had potential issues
1:49:38
in Montenegro, which is a NATO ally. And now within the
1:49:41
government, there are pro Russian elements within that
1:49:44
NATO ally, and we have a brewing crisis, possibly even beginning
1:49:49
this month in Bosnia Herzegovina. This is the mistake
1:49:53
of the Biden administration has been to treat President voltage
1:49:57
to this different softer standard On the belief that
1:50:02
somehow we can bring him over instead, what it has done is it
1:50:06
has projected fear the US basically projecting fear of
1:50:11
Belgrade, which President voted correctly interprets as weakness
1:50:16
and takes advantage. And this all goes, of course, to the
1:50:19
benefit of his ally, which is Russia.
1:50:23
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, we had clips of problems brewing in
1:50:29
Serbia, I think. Didn't they? Wasn't there something like
1:50:36
something with their money? If I recall, well, what is this? Let
1:50:42
John C Dvorak: me see. I don't remember the money thing, but I
1:50:44
do know that. This situation is I find it interesting that he
1:50:49
says that Biden's got it right. But the administration has got
1:50:52
it wrong. Which says to me again, like everyone else says
1:50:55
Biden's not running anything though. No.
1:50:59
Adam Curry: This is well, the coverage was good, but we don't
1:51:04
understand it. There's
1:51:05
John C Dvorak: no There's no we have no we must Well, no, but at
1:51:08
least we're but familiarising are
1:51:09
Adam Curry: there Serbs in the audience come on Serbs talk to
1:51:12
us Serbs.
1:51:13
John C Dvorak: This serves hate our show.
1:51:15
Adam Curry: How about this? Even though we break up the show a
1:51:19
little bit differently. Very short donation segment today.
1:51:26
It has no resources. No entry. That's right. Second half a show
1:51:33
is back. Finally. That's right, everybody. Second half a show
1:51:39
what's going on out there in the universe. And
1:51:42
Unknown: now to our number one trending story on CBS miami.com
1:51:47
It involves talk of alien sightings at Bayside marketplace
1:51:52
on New Year's day there was a massive police response in
1:51:55
downtown Miami. More than 50 Young people armed with sticks
1:51:59
began fighting. We say juveniles were also setting off fireworks
1:52:03
causing chaos.
1:52:04
So now people are posting online saying that police weren't there
1:52:08
to handle a group of rowdy teens but rather eight to 10 feet
1:52:12
tall, shadowy aliens conspiracy theories are saying a big
1:52:18
creature could be seen standing in front of the entrance to the
1:52:22
shopping area Bayside today, the phrases Miami mall and aliens of
1:52:27
Miami have been among the top 10 searches on Twitter's trending
1:52:31
tab. Twitter of course now called x. And Google News even
1:52:35
has several reports questioning the events. So
1:52:39
we reached out to the Miami Police Department they issued a
1:52:42
statement saying in part quote, there were no aliens UFOs or
1:52:46
ETS. No airports were closed, no power outages. facepalm emoji
1:52:51
was included in the statement. Yeah,
1:52:53
Adam Curry: obviously a cover up, cover up by the Miami
1:52:56
obvious cover up by the Miami Police. Because there's no way
1:53:00
you would have this. I mean, there were hundreds of police
1:53:04
vehicles that at least for helicopters hovering overhead.
1:53:07
It was obvious. This was not just some kids fighting at the
1:53:11
mall. These were eight to 10 feet, aliens with fire sticks.
1:53:16
And we have eyewitness reports all over tick tock. Hey, by the
1:53:20
way, whatever happened to getting rid of tick tock? Where
1:53:23
did that go? What Why did that stop? I thought tick tock was
1:53:28
dangerous to democracy. Serious question Trump would
1:53:33
John C Dvorak: have gotten rid of it but no, no, that's just
1:53:35
benefiting the Democrat party. Oh,
1:53:39
Adam Curry: so the lobby is worked out that I guess. Yeah,
1:53:43
there's
1:53:43
John C Dvorak: a cash some cash changed hands perhaps. Well,
1:53:47
Adam Curry: we need to be talking to people about this
1:53:49
because it was everyone was all in we had hearings. Tick tock is
1:53:53
bad. China's killing our children, Scott Adams. He's
1:53:57
convinced tick tock is going to ruin America. But yet it's still
1:54:02
here. And this is where we find eyewitnesses to this event. So
1:54:07
it says
1:54:07
Unknown: nobody's going to talk about it. I figured you know
1:54:12
Adam Curry: there are some expletives in this that I didn't
1:54:14
have time to cut out
1:54:15
Unknown: I was I was down in Miami for the New Year's use and
1:54:19
me and my girl I got a little timeshare we was down there on
1:54:23
like a mini vacay you know just
1:54:25
Adam Curry: I love this guy by the way. need my girl we had a
1:54:28
timeshare down in Miami little vacay or two
1:54:30
Unknown: years old right so anyway, we happen to be at that
1:54:33
mall so um we are footlocker whatever next thing you know you
1:54:38
start hearing all this commotion outside sound like fire like
1:54:40
firecrackers or something? So, you know, I'm saying I you know,
1:54:43
I grab a close I'm like, yo, we bout to get about here because,
1:54:46
you know, I originally thought that they were shooting in
1:54:49
Santo, you know, some type of fight that broke out or whatever
1:54:53
the case is, because you know, we're not familiar with Miami.
1:54:55
We're not familiar with the city. So I'm like, damn, I
1:54:58
haven't got my blog. So you I
1:55:00
Adam Curry: got my black I guess that's a Glock blakedown We
1:55:03
bought
1:55:04
Unknown: above a swerve sight crazy like we just see all these
1:55:09
people running like you know, fat fat fat chicks you know old
1:55:14
ladies like while I'm talking about moving insane like yo
1:55:18
people even more I'm talking about moving so you know my
1:55:22
garage like what's going on like fuck all that we out like I'm
1:55:24
not gonna ask no questions we just gonna follow the crowd.
1:55:27
Next thing you know, you know real like gunshots start going
1:55:30
off so you know I'm saying like we try to we try to follow that
1:55:33
follow the crowd get out of there I look back on the back no
1:55:37
capital no cat I look back it looked like like like a big ass
1:55:42
shadow. But it was solid at the same time like a few like a few
1:55:46
shadows, but they were solid at the same time. And it almost
1:55:50
looked like they was coming our direction like they was chasing
1:55:53
us, but they was disappearing and reappearing closer. So I'm
1:55:57
like yo, what so we started really moving and next thing you
1:56:01
know, we start hearing more gunshots like these dudes start
1:56:03
firing that this shit get outside map police all that, you
1:56:07
know, I'm saying they started to police this like trying to get
1:56:10
all the people that ran out the mall. They like trying to like
1:56:13
detain these people, whatever. But you know, me and my girl we
1:56:16
ended up just, you know, sliding past all that and everything
1:56:20
like that. But you know a lot of people saying Why didn't nobody
1:56:22
film and all that when that type of shit is going on? Him saying
1:56:26
shit like that? Like some paranormal? Nobody thinking
1:56:29
about no phone?
1:56:31
Adam Curry: No, no, there's a bunch of Jhansi DeVore acts with
1:56:34
no phone at all. So they didn't get any no video.
1:56:39
John C Dvorak: Ah, well, they see this is the problem. I don't
1:56:42
care what monster you're gonna see coming in and out of
1:56:47
dimensionality. As he describes it, someone's gonna be pulling
1:56:51
out their phone.
1:56:53
Adam Curry: Well, we didn't get any pictures of any teenagers
1:56:55
shooting either. So this is very
1:56:58
John C Dvorak: successful. And that's the point there.
1:57:00
Adam Curry: Well, here's here's what's going on. This is just
1:57:04
the beginning.
1:57:06
John C Dvorak: Wait, let me think. Wait, let me stop you.
1:57:08
Okay, that's a movie coming out. That has something to do with
1:57:11
something about this thing. That would be great movies bowl of
1:57:15
crap. If I
1:57:16
Adam Curry: if I could roll out a movie trailer that would be
1:57:18
the best right now? No, this is project BlueBee. This is this is
1:57:22
where we start to and of course you're going to use tick tock as
1:57:25
you said it benefits the elites the Democrat Party. And that's
1:57:29
why tick tock has not gone yet. Now this is where we start to
1:57:34
break the Joe Rogan will be all over this. This is where I start
1:57:37
to bring in the aliens people have seen it that clearly. I
1:57:41
witness and eventually these aliens will start talking to us
1:57:45
and and then we can get rid of religion and we can all go
1:57:49
towards the aliens. And we can follow the new world order that
1:57:53
is and you'll see more of these craft in the air that will all
1:57:57
be projected Project Blue Beam is has I call Project Blue Beam
1:58:01
now activated. It's activated and it's biblical. It's been
1:58:04
predicted. That's been predicted this it's it's all coming now.
1:58:08
This is just just the start. So keep an eye out in blue beam
1:58:12
activated. Yes, I will. I will stay on the beat. Yes,
1:58:16
John C Dvorak: you this is your all yours. Thanks. Unless
1:58:19
there's a local phenomenon takes place which I will use a regular
1:58:23
camera to film. Yes,
1:58:26
Adam Curry: you will. You'll go out right away. Now there was
1:58:30
another interesting legal case. By the
1:58:34
John C Dvorak: way, I do have a ticket if you don't want to go
1:58:36
into if you're not following up. I have a tick tock clip. Tock
1:58:40
tock tick tock. lunatic, there's a lunatic. That's this
1:58:47
threatening everybody should get should just be arrested
1:58:50
immediately. But unlike your clip, yes. I took care of the
1:58:56
profanity issues.
1:58:58
Adam Curry: I'm glad you did. I apologize. I'm sorry. I missed
1:59:01
it. I didn't have time to do it.
1:59:03
Unknown: So I do wish death on transphobic people because they
1:59:06
wish death on me and have caused death to many, many, many of my
1:59:11
brothers and sisters in the trans community. I want to stab
1:59:15
all of you to death as many times as I can. I want to stab
1:59:19
you in the throat and twist it like I'm carving a pumpkin. I
1:59:23
want to shred you into tiny pieces. I want to tear your
1:59:28
bones out from your body. I want to scoop your brains out with a
1:59:32
spoon. I want to eat your flesh.
1:59:38
Adam Curry: I'd say decaf decaf may be a good idea for this
1:59:42
person.
1:59:43
John C Dvorak: Minimally but I just want to show you how it's
1:59:46
done by a pro. You
1:59:48
Adam Curry: didn't do that the clip came that way. Yes, I did.
1:59:50
You did that. Yeah, that's pretty good. The
1:59:53
John C Dvorak: clip was extremely well you could tell
1:59:56
was very profane. This
1:59:57
Adam Curry: is the problem with social media these days. I mean,
2:00:01
if you go on X, he's gone X for five minutes. You're seeing
2:00:04
people kill each other. You see murderers, you seeing. It's
2:00:08
terrible. It really is.
2:00:10
John C Dvorak: It's just yeah, these doofus is like threatening
2:00:12
everyone. Yeah.
2:00:14
Adam Curry: And not that I'm against free speech, you should
2:00:17
be able to I mean, that's actually threatening. I don't
2:00:18
think that I think there may be limits to what you can do there.
2:00:23
Now, I'm all for free, you know, open news media, but it's not
2:00:26
like, it's not a healthy thing. To be going on social media and
2:00:31
looking at all this stuff. It's I agree and tick tock, as you
2:00:35
know, I've loaded up the app once or twice, and I deleted it
2:00:38
immediately, because you stop for one second on how this is
2:00:42
kind of let's see how this guy gets killed. Oh, man, that's
2:00:45
horrible. And then you get five more. And then you scroll in and
2:00:48
scroll down because you're watching them you shouldn't be
2:00:50
watching. No, exactly. It's very unhealthy.
2:00:53
John C Dvorak: I do not have an app. I never use an app. I use
2:00:56
the by going to a web browser browser. I goes on done the
2:01:01
browser and I type in tik tok.com. Yes, it brings up a
2:01:07
brings up and I'll search for something specifically. And
2:01:11
maybe I'll find it or I won't.
2:01:13
Adam Curry: Now do you look for crazy transgender people was
2:01:16
that your search
2:01:17
John C Dvorak: people send those to me this was sent to me by one
2:01:20
of our producers. So this guy,
2:01:24
Adam Curry: this is a this is something that I saw this
2:01:27
morning. It was on MSNBC the Katie Fang show never seen her
2:01:32
show before. I was a miracle because I was watching it live
2:01:37
on the on YouTube TV while taking a shower or you know,
2:01:42
shaving, electrocute
2:01:43
John C Dvorak: yourself.
2:01:45
Adam Curry: And, like, Ah, I wish I had this clip of this guy
2:01:51
and of the situation. And lo and behold that MSNBC had the whole
2:01:56
show up on YouTube so I was able to get these two clips. And we
2:02:01
know what's going on here but I just wanted to accentuate the
2:02:05
point of what's happening. In this particular case
2:02:08
Unknown: in May of 2022. Rapper Young Thug whose given name is
2:02:13
Jeffrey Lamar Williams and 27 other defendants were charged in
2:02:16
a sweeping 65 count indictment, accusing the suspects of being
2:02:20
part of a criminal street gang named why SL or young slime
2:02:25
life. Rico indictment alleges Young Thug and otherwise all
2:02:29
members committed crimes like murder, armed robbery,
2:02:32
aggravated assault with a deadly weapon fest drug dealing,
2:02:35
carjacking and witness intimidation. Young dog is
2:02:38
charged with eight out of the 65 total counts. Since this arrest
2:02:43
Young Thug has been in the Cobb County Jail for nearly two years
2:02:45
awaiting trial. And in November, prosecutors secured a win win
2:02:49
the presiding judge agreed to allow them to use relevant rap
2:02:53
lyrics in the trial as evidence but the use of these lyrics
2:02:57
raises the question of whether that's constitutional in the
2:03:00
first place. After all Johnny Cash and get arrested for
2:03:03
singing. I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.
2:03:08
Adam Curry: Next idiot so what you're what was not in this
2:03:12
report at all and what you won't hear but I want to circle back
2:03:16
to it is this is about drill rap. And this is something I
2:03:20
learned from all we talked about it extensively when that whole
2:03:23
gang got arrested in New York. Drill rap is very popular. This
2:03:28
is where gangs are are indeed killing each other and then make
2:03:33
a hip hop songs about it. The sick part of this is the music
2:03:37
industry uses this this drill rap. Once you know once
2:03:45
something starts hitting the algos in YouTube, then it hits
2:03:48
the algos in Spotify, then they sign these drill rappers to a
2:03:55
sub label of a major label and they're making money off of it.
2:03:59
We've talked about I don't know if you remember, they are
2:04:01
literally making money off of black men killing each other.
2:04:07
And glorifying it. It's it started in the UK. And it's both
2:04:12
it though Yeah, it's huge over in the UK is big in America. And
2:04:17
it's what's disgusting about it is that this is the music
2:04:21
industry. They are they are promoting this they are
2:04:24
propagating this they do not care. And so of course they
2:04:29
bring in the hugest music industry douche bag lawyer to
2:04:34
defend it.
2:04:35
Unknown: Joining me now is Scott Grubin criminal defense attorney
2:04:38
in Georgia who previously represented Kenneth Chesbro. In
2:04:40
the Fulton County Election interference Rico case. So let's
2:04:44
focus a little bit on some of these lyrics. They include,
2:04:46
quote, without a lot of followers, a perfect leader, a
2:04:49
boss, I call the shots another one for slimes, you know, I'll
2:04:53
kill another one. And I never killed anybody but I got
2:04:57
something to do with that body.
2:04:59
Adam Curry: No Wait until you hear this guy's defense. Scott,
2:05:03
what
2:05:03
Unknown: happened to the First Amendment? In this case?
2:05:06
I think the problem here is that rappers are not given the same
2:05:11
artistic license, as other artists are in music and other
2:05:16
industries. I always give the example you just gave an example
2:05:20
about Johnny Cash. I'd like to give an example about the actor
2:05:23
Joe Pesci. Alright, think for a minute Joe Pesci is prosecuted
2:05:27
for some sort of violent crime. With the prosecutor tried to
2:05:31
admit evidence of some of his scenes in his movies like
2:05:35
Goodfellas, like casino, where he's engaging in violent acts
2:05:39
where he's threatening violent acts? Of course they wouldn't.
2:05:42
And if they did, the judge wouldn't let it in. Why? Because
2:05:46
everybody knows that Job has she is playing a part. He's playing
2:05:51
whatever, whatever character he's playing on that movie.
2:05:54
Well, guess what? So Williams, this man is not named Young
2:05:59
Thug. This man is named Jeffrey Williams. And he's playing a
2:06:02
character too. So when he says those things on the big slime, I
2:06:07
have something to do with that body. How is that any different
2:06:10
than Joe Pesci saying, hey, looking at me I'm gonna kill you
2:06:14
on Goodfellas it's really not and for some reason and I think
2:06:18
there might be arguments as to what some of those reasons are.
2:06:21
Racism rap artists are not given the artistic license and freedom
2:06:26
that these other artists are
2:06:28
Adam Curry: they should arrest all these these record
2:06:31
executives abreast the labels arrest the Spotify executives
2:06:36
arrest YouTube people responsible for promoting this
2:06:40
this is this is really atrocious. It's so just sick.
2:06:47
And this and this is how these guys did racist.
2:06:52
John C Dvorak: Fascinating clips. I thank you. Thank you.
2:06:56
Because the argument is logical, I think is totally logical, but
2:07:01
the background indicates otherwise. In other words, if
2:07:05
you don't know about the what's going on, at the bait base, it's
2:07:10
not baseless, but a base level you know what's going on? You
2:07:14
can't the argument is specious. Yes but the fact that you throw
2:07:18
the specious argument out there because it makes nothing but
2:07:20
sense it because logical makes this interesting. Thank you. I
2:07:26
know there's like I think everybody out there would at
2:07:29
least find some level of interest in that. racy thing you
2:07:34
just brought in. Yes,
2:07:35
Adam Curry: I would hope so.
2:07:37
John C Dvorak: Well never discuss it again. I
2:07:38
Adam Curry: hope well, you never know. There is one more tick
2:07:42
tock related clip I just had this for the last show
2:07:55
that's right everybody's vape wars now even even discussed on
2:08:02
D H unplugged how big tobacco companies bought up vape
2:08:06
companies was it for like, what did they buy that vape company
2:08:11
for like $20 billion in this outrageous amount of money and
2:08:15
they wrote it off for 400 million like okay, that was that
2:08:19
we failed and and if you look at the statistics, cigarette
2:08:24
smoking as backup, it's on the rise, but we still have these
2:08:28
idiot kids vaping which in my from my research is healthier
2:08:34
than smoking. There may be other issues but I'm a vapor and and I
2:08:40
like it I enjoyed I stopped smoking tobacco and other other
2:08:44
plants product, other plant products, which I feel are
2:08:47
perfectly fine for people to smoke, but it wasn't for me
2:08:49
anymore. But vaping Oh, no, no, we're taking money right out of
2:08:53
the Big Tobacco is pockets which directly affects the master
2:08:58
states agreement, which is the money that that states receive
2:09:05
as compensation for all the people who are dying from
2:09:09
cancer. This was the business the agreement this is what the
2:09:12
big tobacco agreement was all about. And so we have taxes and
2:09:16
those taxes. No good states can take these taxes because you
2:09:19
know, we have to pay for people who are dying of of smoking
2:09:22
cigarettes and we can't have that go away. And it seemed like
2:09:25
the kids were stopping to smoke. And then we had to stop that
2:09:28
especially menthol because you know, black people smoking
2:09:31
that's why we can have people vaping menthol so let's get
2:09:35
these kids off the vape
2:09:38
Unknown: a new trend on tick tock, I just want to tell you
2:09:41
one more reason you should stop vaping and encouraging people to
2:09:44
stop vaping but this time, it's not about their health. It's
2:09:48
aimed at helping workers in the Democratic Republic of Congo's
2:09:52
artisanal cobalt mines, smaller scale operations, where the work
2:09:56
is often done by hand. These mines have danger As conditions
2:10:00
and even child labor, according to humanitarian groups like
2:10:04
Amnesty International,
2:10:06
I'm quitting vaping The reason it's still happening is because
2:10:08
of how much we consume. Creator
2:10:11
Christina and darchei Heard about what happens in these
2:10:14
minds, and says she was so outraged. Like she had to do
2:10:17
something. And he just kept saying, don't buy new
2:10:19
electronics. And I'm like, already do that, you know, what
2:10:21
else can
2:10:22
I do? And then I found just a quick vaping.
2:10:25
Cobalt is a key element used to make lithium ion batteries,
2:10:28
which much of our technology depends on things like
2:10:31
smartphones, electric vehicles, and most e cigarettes, I would
2:10:36
buy a vape. Pretty much like once or twice a week, two thirds
2:10:41
of the world's cobalt supply comes from the Democratic
2:10:43
Republic of the Congo, in Central Africa. But most of that
2:10:47
is then sent to China where it's refined before it's sold to
2:10:50
battery manufacturers, and then brand name companies buy those
2:10:55
batteries.
2:10:56
Adam Curry: I'm telling you, tick tock is a valuable property
2:11:00
on
2:11:00
John C Dvorak: a second. First of all, artisanal mines. I love
2:11:05
that small batch, baby, small batch. And so we got that in
2:11:09
play. And the other thing is one vape device. It probably one
2:11:15
Tesla probably accounts for all devices ever manufactured. In
2:11:22
terms of battery use, so we
2:11:23
Adam Curry: got a sigh up the children into not vaping get
2:11:26
back on the stick and back on the tobacco stick children. This
2:11:30
tic toc is a valuable property and it pains me to say it but we
2:11:34
have to pay more attention to it.
2:11:37
John C Dvorak: Hey, you're talking you're talking to you're
2:11:39
preaching to the choir here. This is what I've been doing.
2:11:43
Adam Curry: For years it's always kind of the same it's
2:11:45
always some nut job with with eyeshadows like come on man. We
2:11:50
have to look at other things tick tock is doing well. And
2:11:54
with that, I'd like to thank you for your currency in the morning
2:11:56
to you the man who put the seat in the cube head ladies
2:11:59
gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end one only Mr.
2:12:01
Johnson
2:12:04
John C Dvorak: Well, in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry
2:12:06
also in the Moreno efficiency, underground subs in the water.
2:12:12
The water and all the days and nights out there in
2:12:14
Adam Curry: the morning to the trolls in the troll room who've
2:12:17
been quite active today. I see you.
2:12:24
Oh, okay. 2153 That seems better. Yeah, we're
2:12:29
John C Dvorak: 300 low. Yeah, but
2:12:30
Adam Curry: but better than 1900 or whatever we had. Oh, no. 1775
2:12:35
No, it was bad. That was really bad. No, it was bad, bad bad.
2:12:39
The trolls hang out in the troll room at troll room.io You can go
2:12:44
there yourself, troll around, do whatever you want. Hope you feel
2:12:47
good about it. You should. It's fun. It's femoral. So you know,
2:12:51
it's like, comes in and goes and no one's gonna make any trouble
2:12:55
for you at all. You can also get a modern podcast app, save
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yourself some trouble. The update within 90 seconds of the
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no agenda show updating. And there's probably it's probably
2:13:07
about 400,000 podcasts that update within 90 seconds on the
2:13:11
modern podcast apps. You get all kinds of you know, you get
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transcripts which you can search you get album art, you get
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chapter art, you get all kinds of fun stuff by going to podcast
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apps.com. And move away from the from the big boys. Move away
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from the legacy app screw those guys. Get on with the
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independent developers. Those small dudes small batch
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What you could also do, of course, is the especially for,
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you wanted to. And over there, you could refresh and see the
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2:13:57
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2:14:01
no advertising. All we do is put everything out there all of this
2:14:06
media deconstruction. All you know, I think today, we're
2:14:09
probably about 769 or 72 clips, depending on how much we play
2:14:14
after the break. Those are thought goes into this work goes
2:14:19
into this. We put it all out there. We we weave it together
2:14:23
in the womb have no agenda, and we present it to you free of
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charge. The value is right there. If you find anything
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valuable about what you've heard, consider sending that
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back to us in time, talent or treasure. We'll get to the
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treasure but when it comes to time and talent, our artists are
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top notch. And I believe Sir Paul couture has done some extra
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work for us and has upgraded some servers and he actually
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posted posted something this morning. Yeah, happy now.
2:14:53
Unknown: Yeah, happy now. Yeah, complainers happy now.
2:14:58
Adam Curry: So we want to thank the art So who brought us the
2:15:01
artwork for episode 1622? We titled that juice Joe, which of
2:15:05
course is right. He was juiced up and Darren O'Neal brought us
2:15:08
the artwork that we used
2:15:10
John C Dvorak: when he lamented it. What do you mean? They know
2:15:12
agenda social
2:15:13
Adam Curry: he lamented it.
2:15:14
John C Dvorak: What do you mean? He says? Uh huh. They picked my
2:15:17
crappy piece of art. Go figure some laborers in that those kind
2:15:21
of words.
2:15:22
Adam Curry: We'll strike it from the record. If that's how he
2:15:25
didn't
2:15:26
John C Dvorak: think much of it himself. This sounds like so we
2:15:29
liked it. It was the media decoding, right. Wherever, why?
2:15:31
Why did we like it? Because there was nothing else. It was a
2:15:35
fallback piece of crap. And most of us is going to be on Darren
2:15:38
side on this
2:15:39
Adam Curry: most because people are posting AR AI stuff. But no,
2:15:43
John C Dvorak: they're all posting AI stuff. And then a
2:15:46
bunch of people are doing Disney stuff because of the release.
2:15:50
Adam Curry: Oh, we already said no, we're not going to do said
2:15:53
no
2:15:53
John C Dvorak: to that. Don't we're not going to pick it
2:15:54
because we don't want Disney going after us. Disney is
2:15:57
Adam Curry: already making trouble about people. D
2:16:00
monetizing D platforming YouTube videos. You know this is someone
2:16:05
created an AI Art Generator. That's all that's all about
2:16:11
Steamboat Willie. Oh, I'd
2:16:13
John C Dvorak: love to see that.
2:16:16
Adam Curry: Now, so every everybody's a prompt a prompt
2:16:21
engineer now.
2:16:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what it is. Prompt engineering.
2:16:26
Adam Curry: The stuff that was real was correct. A record that
2:16:29
wasn't great. It was via was an old What was it like? Look like
2:16:33
a 286 computer with the best podcast on the net? Understand
2:16:41
this kid, you know, a lot of people did Hawking's art, which,
2:16:47
believe me, was not great than we had. I mean, it's just it's
2:16:51
aI stuff. It's not. This is this is my problem. I mean, there's
2:16:56
lots of stuff being created, but this has no soul. It's no soul.
2:17:00
That's what it is soulless its soul is baseless, soulless art.
2:17:04
Yeah, it's right. It's not good. Um, it
2:17:07
John C Dvorak: hasn't got any oomph. Ah, yes, it's, um,
2:17:10
flawless, Toothless and soulless. And mostly not funny.
2:17:16
Adam Curry: That's the worst part. And I think what happens
2:17:19
is because it's slick,
2:17:21
John C Dvorak: that they're really slick. But not all of it,
2:17:23
though. Now, some of this crappy slide. But
2:17:25
Adam Curry: the real artists like, Oh, they're probably
2:17:27
choose this. This is so slick. I could never do this. Well, you
2:17:30
could. You could? Well,
2:17:34
John C Dvorak: you know, usually these these are generators. And
2:17:36
you do one or AI art. And you do them and you get a bunch of
2:17:42
sometimes you get select selections. You get maybe a few
2:17:45
to look at. And you look at him. You go Wow. That's pretty
2:17:49
impressive. Yeah. And that's exactly what you said. I don't
2:17:52
think I could do this piece. So I'm gonna submit it. Exactly.
2:17:58
Adam Curry: Yeah. And but its own flawless and solace. Pretty
2:18:02
John C Dvorak: much. It's kind of just junk spot. Junk spot
2:18:05
art. Yeah.
2:18:07
Adam Curry: And it makes me sad, because we've had, you know,
2:18:10
probably 27,000 submissions up until the AI revolution. And it
2:18:16
just sucks. I mean, people get mad at me. We curry be. Oh, by
2:18:25
the way, we should probably we forgot to do a mia culpa about
2:18:30
the Panama Canal. Oh, yeah. Do it because you said it. Ah,
2:18:38
John C Dvorak: well, the Panama Canal is largely filled and
2:18:40
released water from this big giant lake, which I forgot
2:18:43
about, which is where the canal kind of goes next to this this
2:18:47
lake fills in is that lake is down because of the drought in
2:18:52
Panama. And so that's causing issues with the canal, the way
2:18:55
it's engineered. So it's not just ocean water going through
2:18:59
there. So I don't see why you can't just bring more ocean
2:19:03
water in.
2:19:04
Adam Curry: But what's interesting is I love I'd say
2:19:08
60% of people said, oh, no, you're wrong. You know, I live
2:19:13
there, or I looked it up, you know, it's like, oh, no, it's
2:19:16
it's actually it's a series of tubes. And it's freshwater. But
2:19:22
there's people who say, I can't believe
2:19:28
John C Dvorak: that same guy didn't even don't even know why
2:19:30
he listens to the show.
2:19:32
Adam Curry: I only took five seconds to research this. And
2:19:37
they send it to me.
2:19:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the by the way, that's the best
2:19:42
part.
2:19:43
Adam Curry: And so I reply and say I'm not John's intern and I
2:19:46
copy you did that
2:19:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw that you always see see me so you
2:19:50
make sure that I'm I'm aware of your IRA.
2:19:54
Adam Curry: Because it I mean, people were just dudes. I mean,
2:19:58
yes, we are the creative world. Our Consulting Group yes, we're
2:20:01
pretty good immediate deconstruction of doing it for
2:20:03
long while we're fallible.
2:20:06
John C Dvorak: But then no, we make a mistake a month, at least
2:20:09
more
2:20:09
Adam Curry: than that. But then the the Snark of it, I'm sorry,
2:20:17
your own podcast. By the way, speaking of value got
2:20:22
John C Dvorak: to be harder to lux.
2:20:25
Adam Curry: Creative Work consulting group time, we got a
2:20:28
note from LC and Tali trying to read this in the morning. This
2:20:33
is LC and Talia ages 16 and 12. Hey, John. This is a girl's
2:20:40
probably one of our youngest producers. We love the show
2:20:44
them. We love the show. And it has entertained us on multiple
2:20:48
road trips. So we thought we would contribute in the form of
2:20:51
jingles. Our mom is going to send in some money to deduce our
2:20:54
dad but hasn't gotten to it yet. Come on, Mom, what are you
2:20:57
waiting for? So that we will be the first in our family to
2:21:00
contribute. We enjoy messing around with audio and stuff. So
2:21:05
we hope you like these jingles. Also, would you give us some
2:21:07
advice? We'd love to hear it. So I'll just play they sent to I'll
2:21:12
play one and then we should give them a little critique. Here
2:21:15
this fractures got
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Unknown: people to be you know, SP also stands for what? Free
2:21:26
speech
2:21:31
Adam Curry: so I it's a good good start.
2:21:35
John C Dvorak: It's a start, they need to drop their music
2:21:38
back. Couldn't couldn't hear the word. I couldn't hear your
2:21:41
voices. You know what? Hello. So yeah, that should be very low. I
2:21:46
mean, you know, there's no reason to have a booming bed on
2:21:50
top of everything. That's it's annoying. Yes. So but if it was
2:21:54
in the background, very low way you guys are singing in the
2:21:58
foreground with a little less echo. I might add.
2:22:01
Adam Curry: Yes. That was also a problem. Echo was a little bit
2:22:04
too much. Yes.
2:22:05
John C Dvorak: So you can, but you know, you could probably run
2:22:07
it through one of those filters and take the echo completely out
2:22:10
if you wanted to. But yeah, they got the right idea.
2:22:14
Adam Curry: You got the right idea, kids. We're glad. We're
2:22:18
glad. Yes. I mean, how rare is it though, that you get young
2:22:22
people at that age who are doing audio production? That none zero
2:22:26
never happened? That's what that's why I thought it was
2:22:28
worth playing. I like that. So good start. Good start. So
2:22:32
that's your time. That's your talent. And now it's time for
2:22:35
the treasurer in our value for value model. So we're going to
2:22:37
start with our executive producers and Associate
2:22:39
Executive Producers short list today, I
2:22:42
John C Dvorak: would say this, I would say to be a performative
2:22:46
here, I would say I will say you will say yes, we have a million
2:22:50
listeners and we have 30,000 people that subscribe
2:22:53
religiously to the newsletter, and we had a total of 28
2:22:57
donations over 50 bucks. This really is pathetic.
2:23:03
Adam Curry: We are very appreciative though. Why don't
2:23:07
you take the first one since there's no note and then I could
2:23:10
do the one that's very long.
2:23:13
John C Dvorak: Which is probably what I was gonna suggest. I have
2:23:15
no idea where there's no note. But we have a $2,000 donation I
2:23:20
say after I just complaint we have sounds like it sounds like
2:23:25
I'm a pig. But the fact is that the
2:23:30
Adam Curry: the fact that his Yes. In fact,
2:23:31
John C Dvorak: is that the you know, there's like one guy
2:23:34
Adam Curry: other people are overcompensating for the
2:23:36
freeloaders. Yeah,
2:23:38
John C Dvorak: there's like one guy, so I mean, he's a great
2:23:40
guy, but I don't you know, Paul, why, in Corpus Christi, Texas,
2:23:45
is the guy and he comes in with $2,000 with no note that we
2:23:50
could find and I'm sure he'll come in with a note when he
2:23:53
feels like anyway, we'll be glad to read it when he does that.
2:23:56
dabba will give them a double up karma until that happens, you've
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Unknown: got karma
2:24:05
Adam Curry: All right. Then we go to Brad Rennick Brentwood,
2:24:10
Tennessee 1222 which is also quite nice, fellas. Fellas
2:24:19
consider me to be considered me sir to be thirsty because yes,
2:24:23
this is we're in Insta instant night level here, sir to be
2:24:28
thirsty, sir, to be thirsty. I discovered you during COVID
2:24:31
working for a major trillion dollar global company. Well
2:24:35
that's that narrows it down to two which is Apple and Amazon.
2:24:41
What a weird time and there was a ton of pressure my company
2:24:44
that's based in California stateside apple. They forced her
2:24:49
hands during that period and to this day I feel disgusted with
2:24:52
myself for taking the shot. I waited a year and finally cave
2:24:56
to do it to keep my job one of my biggest life regrets because
2:24:58
I never cave just now. What I do, I went out of my way to find
2:25:02
the one place in town that served the j&j And did that one.
2:25:05
Probably Okay, actually, no. But I don't know, no issues, but I
2:25:10
don't know. But
2:25:10
John C Dvorak: you know, the j&j would it get j&j The cause like
2:25:13
immediate blood clot death or not? Or you're nothing you're
2:25:17
good to go.
2:25:18
Adam Curry: My wife is a pediatrician and for at least a
2:25:20
solid 18 months, I fought our tooth and nail on what she's
2:25:23
doing and what is reality? Oh, does this end in divorce the
2:25:26
story? First half of that was me catching up to what's really
2:25:30
going on when you guys showed up in my life. We took a lot of
2:25:33
walks after that argument so much because she was certain
2:25:36
that she was being told that what she's being told
2:25:38
prescribed, and recommended is accurate. I mean, we fought
2:25:40
hard. I'm a sales guy. She's a doctor who wins that.
2:25:45
John C Dvorak: sales guy should win. Yeah, anyways,
2:25:48
Adam Curry: while she hates a lot of your machinations with
2:25:51
the noises and you're obnoxious, and you're obnoxious. Chief
2:25:55
finds me obnoxious to over time, though she's completely flipped
2:26:01
to slip. You guys are an integral part of that. And she
2:26:04
as she's, she is representative of what Adam has mentioned many
2:26:09
times before. They all go by recommendations. There's no
2:26:12
debate on this. Nobody actually questions anything. It is pretty
2:26:16
crazy. Once you dig into all like this. I agree with Adam.
2:26:23
Excuse me. Suit
2:26:25
John C Dvorak: gate. Duncan.
2:26:26
Adam Curry: I agree with Adam. You can't force the apology and
2:26:29
rub it in their faces. At least not in this case. Yeah, that's
2:26:32
right. You must forgive doesn't mean you have to reconcile. But
2:26:36
just forgive because you're the one that is you're eating
2:26:38
yourself up over that let it go. But she's not even recommending
2:26:42
the shot for kids now, whereas this is still a thing everywhere
2:26:45
else in my town of Vash. Nashville is wild. They won't
2:26:48
give the shot. Lucky they never did. I made sure she never
2:26:52
provided that. Okay, now I have to scroll a little bit because
2:26:57
John C Dvorak: notes too long. Yes, it is. But it's a good
2:26:59
note. We
2:27:00
Adam Curry: went to dinner tonight. And as we rolled down
2:27:03
the highway, I said, Can we put on no agenda? She said sure.
2:27:07
That's big. Thanks, guys. Kind of a quick note there Well,
2:27:14
thank you brother and and you will indeed be knighted today.
2:27:18
And I'm glad that you and your wife were on good terms. We love
2:27:21
that. Even though she thinks we're she probably still thinks
2:27:24
we're obnoxious. But we are hey, what can I tell you?
2:27:28
John C Dvorak: You have to be obnoxious at some level to get
2:27:31
an audience to stick with you because obnoxious pneus is part
2:27:35
of personality.
2:27:36
Adam Curry: Ooh, yes. Yes. It's Don't you think it's charisma?
2:27:39
John C Dvorak: Not necessarily good personality but it is one
2:27:43
of the I hate listeners. It is what I am B's not one of them.
2:27:46
She comes in from ashington. Great Britain. I don't even know
2:27:50
where that is. I mean, I work Great Britain is I never heard
2:27:53
of ashington. But that's where she's from jobs karma for MX
2:27:56
security UK and are all our security officers who work
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through Christmas and New Year. Best wishes for 2024. She came
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in with 333 dot for for jingles, jobs, jobs, jobs. 33 is the
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magic number. Executive producer ship for Diane bee loves lit 33
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Unknown: That's the magic number. The magic number of
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jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
2:28:27
Adam Curry: Yay. All right. Now we move to Archie Brentano from
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Tigard Oregon 333 dot 33. We'd love these numbers at Oh JCD and
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pod father with this donation of 333 dot 33 I've donated a total
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of $1,000.01 for 33. Is that a binary or 33? Oh, this
2:28:49
switcheroo is on behalf is for my better half Mandy? All right,
2:28:54
hold on a second. So I'm gonna put Mandy in that switcheroo on
2:28:59
I presume Her name is Brentano but doesn't matter because
2:29:02
she'll have been making for somebody when you assume yeah it
2:29:05
doesn't matter because we list her her Dame name henceforth
2:29:09
known as Dame Yeah, no, until she puts puts up treasurer to
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change it that's how you get them please get a good one.
2:29:17
Please credit her with this executive producer credit it has
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been a long journey and I'll be proud to have her at the
2:29:24
roundtable for jiggles slash jingles little girl yay. TPP
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jobs karma and uh ya know, so if you don't mind I will. I'll do
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the ya know. And then we'll do the TPP jobs karma with a little
2:29:42
girl. Yeah, yeah, no jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs. Karma.
2:29:53
John C Dvorak: I'll take the next couple including in and I'm
2:29:57
Adam Curry: sorry, I'm sorry, I forgot to say something here.
2:30:00
request for the round my mistake requests for the round table
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January 7 and give her a biscuit. Nothing is too good for
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my day. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Oh,
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sorry about that
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John C Dvorak: because she's on the list and Williams is up
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pagewood In New South Wales, Australia to 22 and she's got no
2:30:24
note so she gets a double up karma.
2:30:28
Unknown: You've got karma
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John C Dvorak: that follows with Linda Lou packin comes in on
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Saturdays and she came in right on time again, from Lakewood,
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Colorado. We were wondering now how long this will continue
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Yeah, she comes in with 200 bucks every single show and
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asked for jobs karma and likes to say for a remarkable resume
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Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs jobs
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Adam Curry: and we're almost there two more one more
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Associate Executive producer sir Mike the fortunate from Fuquay
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Varina think that's the way pronounce it. North Carolina 200
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Switch routes which route John Adam a belated birthday present
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credit to my keeper and best friend Dame Kelly the resolute
2:31:40
the info on the Middle East situation on the last podcast
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was exceptional. The podcast gets better and better keep up
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the good work jingles. Judge Jeanine Bama McGann Obama you
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might die a little girl yay from Sir Mike the fortunate bomb
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Unknown: them bomb them
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and bomb them again you might die
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John C Dvorak: last is Lynn Lynn of the Garden State that's a New
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Jersey. ITM Jen, she writes it to send a card nice card. It's a
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card you can tell by the noise. ITM John and Adam sending you
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both a note of appreciation for your work to keep us all calm.
2:32:24
Thank you this in this crazy world, I need to start off 2024
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with my first donation, no agenda. Hey, go. So as she does
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requested de douching we can do that. You've been de deuced she
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continues to happy to return some of the value have provided
2:32:43
me on my long on my long commutes to work. I'm requesting
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the D tuition which she just got and a double up karma for
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everybody Lin of the Garden State. You've got karma. And
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that is our Executive Associate Executive producers for show
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take us through the 50s It'll go real quick. And then we'll we'll
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night a Damon and a night and a dame and we've got some meetups,
2:34:04
all kinds of stuff to talk about.
2:34:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know you're in trouble and your first
2:34:07
donor in the in this list is Kevin McLaughlin. 808 is the
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Archduke of Luna lover of American boobs. And then
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Jeremiah Spiewak. in Highland Park, Illinois comes in with
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what he calls pointy boobs of 707. No point this is new. This
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is a new this is a new, totally new and then it follows with
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grace and insurance. Grayson insurance in Aurora, Colorado
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606 small boobs so we have three boob donations in a row all of
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different donation amounts. Meanwhile, we have Eli that
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coffee guide gig brought coffee roasters.com Yeah,
2:34:50
Adam Curry: so I've been I had one this morning. Yeah, but let
2:34:53
John C Dvorak: me just say Bensenville Illinois 1656 50.
2:34:57
Adam Curry: Yep. So I had one of these gigawatt cold fusion.
2:35:01
Yeah. Which it's made with snap tool technology.
2:35:05
John C Dvorak: That is I'm,
2:35:06
Adam Curry: I'm a jacked. I've been jacked all morning from
2:35:08
this stuff, really. But it's interesting because you think
2:35:12
you'll be me it is all it is is coffee and water. That's all
2:35:17
refreshing cold coffee experience. They don't mention
2:35:20
how much caffeine is in here, but I guess they don't need to
2:35:23
because it just coffee, coffee and water. That's all that's in
2:35:26
there. But man, I like it. It's hardcore. And gotta be careful.
2:35:34
Well,
2:35:35
John C Dvorak: that's the paper they have. They're mostly I
2:35:37
think, a bean operation. Although they do have a bunch of
2:35:40
these canned drinks, which are a good idea. I think you can make
2:35:44
a lot of money from Canberra. Michael ganks. Michael gates.
2:35:49
Yeah, they're slick. Michael gates. 50 By the way, ITM 20 for
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20% off your order. Get that in there. 50 To 80 from Miko gates,
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Stephanie Schmidt in San Francisco. 5150. And she's still
2:36:03
a librarian. Oh,
2:36:05
Adam Curry: oh, my goodness. We I got a note. I gotta I gotta
2:36:11
read this for a second. Sorry. I got a beautiful present. From
2:36:15
the anonymous no agenda librarian. She sent me and this
2:36:20
is 35 years ago. She sent me the an original poster that I did
2:36:26
for the American Library Association, mint, complete mint
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poster. MTV guy hair, the whole deal, Adam curry for the
2:36:34
American Library Association. I was blown away 35 years ago, and
2:36:41
she was able to find one because of course, she's a librarian.
2:36:44
Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: that's what they do. Yeah, thank you. In fact, I
2:36:50
love my job and I love what I do. The librarian, Josiah
2:36:56
Thomason, and Kenny, Iowa 51. And boom, we're right at the $50
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donors level right now and I'm going to read them off the name
2:37:04
and location, starting with Michael Lebar, in Williamston,
2:37:10
Michigan, Alex avala and Kyle, Texas.
2:37:13
Adam Curry: Oh Alex, Sir Alex.
2:37:16
John C Dvorak: Matthew Smith and Colchester, Suffolk, UK. Ryan
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Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island, Jonathan Ferris
2:37:25
and liberal Kansas. Kelly Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota,
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donating my winnings from fantasy football. Good for her
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to play. Justin Cruz and to hatchapee California. Justin,
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Justin. Stephen or Steven Steven ray in Spokane, Washington.
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Robertson O. Robertson home in Flint, Michigan. Edward Mazurek
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in Memphis, Tennessee. Rachael Ray arriba arrive alright. bbe
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in Canton, Ohio, and this is switcheroo de douche my husband.
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You've been de deuced he's got a birthday and he's gonna get
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credit Andrew. And she says his his favorite her favorite
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douchebag but he's bendy douche so it's no longer true person of
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merit comics in Columbus, Ohio. And last on our short list, very
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short list. Sir Jackson and leveling, leveling that Texas.
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He needs some jobs. Karma will give jobs calm for everyone who
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needs it here at the end. And that's it. That's it done. Well
2:38:39
Adam Curry: do the jobs, jobs,
2:38:40
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
2:38:43
Adam Curry: That's karma. Got a rather sad note from producer
2:38:51
Robert Robert Roberts. He says, Adam Adam waffling on whether to
2:38:56
ask this. My friends Ben and Jess stone. Ben was an avid
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listener were killed in a car wreck on the 29th of December.
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Their four kids are okay. I guess they're with them now. 136
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and eight years old? The cooks Yes, the company they work for
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had a lot of listeners as well. This has been a tragic and
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heartbreaking loss was hoping for prayers and love and light
2:39:19
I'm sure that everybody is praying for for the kids. And
2:39:22
for of course, Ben and Jess and, and you know, I don't like these
2:39:28
notes. But I did want to share since we are the big no agenda,
2:39:31
family. And thank you very much to all of our producers,
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especially those who who are always there with the
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So 4999 is something people use a lot. But we'd love to
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thank you again for being supporters have no agenda
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episode 1623 Our formula is this. We go out for yet people
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in the mouth
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we always have a couple of birthdays to celebrate Archie
2:40:34
Brentano wishes his better half Mandy Happy Birthday. She's
2:40:37
actually celebrating today. Rachel ribby wants to say happy
2:40:41
birthday to her hubby Andrew now that'll he'll be 30 on January
2:40:45
10. And Sir Mike the fortunate says Happy Birthday to James
2:40:49
Kelly the resolute maybe it's your birthday today regardless
2:40:52
Happy Birthday and we say happy birthday to all of you people on
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behalf of no agenda. Oh, sorry. We don't let me see do we have
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any? No, no, it's just one day one night so
2:41:10
John C Dvorak: I liked that. Lambos combo combo.
2:41:13
Adam Curry: Mandy come on up. Brad Brad Rennick both of you
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are about to be knighted and named. And of course you are now
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night and dame of the no agenda Roundtable. I'm very proud to
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pronounce the k d as Dame ya know. And sir, to be thirsty.
2:41:30
Thank you both so much for supporting us. And of course we
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Welcome to the knights in the dames with a roundtable we are
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very very, very pleased to have you here
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John mentioned in earlier the no agenda meetups he says
2:42:26
connection is protection which is true, but really these
2:42:28
meetups which is it's part of the entire no agenda. experience
2:42:34
really is one thing to listen to the show a lot another is to to
2:42:38
go to a meet up. And meetups are everywhere. And the great thing
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about it is, if there's no meetup near you, you can start
2:42:44
one and you'll be amazed how many sometimes just one person,
2:42:48
but a lot of people get a lot of it's amazing how many people
2:42:50
will go to a meetup if you just go to a bar doesn't really cost
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any money. Just go to no agenda meetups.com It really, these
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meetups, they keep you anchored. It's where we can all get
2:43:01
together. You already know who you are, who the people are, who
2:43:04
will come and you can encourage each other. You can't get that
2:43:08
from just an online experience. You need to do that as a part of
2:43:12
of your sanity really. And we only have one that is coming up
2:43:17
on the 11th Wow, that's nothing until then. That'll be Thursday
2:43:22
the northern Wake County stitch and bitch meet up six o'clock at
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20th Rochester New Hampshire Fort Wayne, Indiana. Oh that was
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going to be on the sixth so that move to the 20th Cincinnati, San
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Diego Anchorage, Alaska. Kilgore, Texas, January 25,
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Alpharetta, Georgia The 27th Kenny, oh Kilkenny Ireland, they
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go tulsa oklahoma on the 28th in February we've got Rogersville
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Alabama, fountain, Colorado, Albany, California February 17.
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Hagen them and Connecticut net Connecticut as Singapore on
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February 22. I'm looking forward to to getting a meetup report
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and we love meetup report. So please consider recording short
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little bits of people talking about how much they love the
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Unknown: Sometimes you go hang out with Dyson days. You'd be
2:44:42
triggered you to be where everybody feels the same. Is
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like a body.
2:44:55
Adam Curry: All right, I have to I have to now have three
2:44:59
actually three This one's no good, because it's just it's not
2:45:03
clear enough, but I'll play it.
2:45:05
Unknown: I love the penis joke.
2:45:06
Oh Ha. See,
2:45:08
Adam Curry: I know you couldn't hear it. I heard it. You heard
2:45:11
it and it was Kara.
2:45:14
John C Dvorak: Kara Swisher. Kara Swisher saying they love
2:45:16
the penis jokes. She's
2:45:18
Adam Curry: vile. She's always talking smack
2:45:22
John C Dvorak: this one that'll make your balls rattle. Kids
2:45:27
too. echoey
2:45:27
Adam Curry: How about this? What a fussy little dish? Because I
2:45:34
know it's not great. What do you have?
2:45:36
John C Dvorak: I have three. Like you do? Yeah, I have fire
2:45:40
fire. Little striker little short little short. This fire
2:45:45
short. Never use fire short. Okay, then try this one. It was
2:45:50
longer this is loon.
2:45:52
Adam Curry: Laser. I lose. I like it. I can hear it. Yeah,
2:45:56
good. Laser. I lose that sound sounds like us. Yeah,
2:46:01
John C Dvorak: it does. And then the old classic another version
2:46:04
of it. Wow. Wow.
2:46:06
Adam Curry: No, no, I don't. Those are too short. I like the
2:46:09
laser. I lose. I like that one. I think I think that's a winner.
2:46:13
And I hope you accept my decision. And now it's time for
2:46:16
Google.
2:46:19
Unknown: GDC
2:46:21
Adam Curry: good news. Everybody had John does a lot of work just
2:46:24
for the regular portions of the show. I mean, for those of you
2:46:28
who are listening those you support what what a show you got
2:46:31
second half of show. And another good news story to make you
2:46:35
John C Dvorak: do this is for little Charlie, who was almost
2:46:40
died in the car, but he was rescued. Oh, thank God.
2:46:45
Unknown: At 15 months old little Charlie here loves to eat his
2:46:49
veggies dropped some for his furry friends. Okay, and help
2:46:54
mom clean them up to birthing makes them laugh. He's so cute.
2:46:58
But last month, this bundle of joy in his mom faced a
2:47:01
terrifying situation when he suddenly broke out with a high
2:47:05
fever in the middle of the night,
2:47:07
jumped on e4 70 and I heard something in the back
2:47:11
pulling over as fast as she could she saw her baby having a
2:47:14
seizure something that's never happened before. If
2:47:18
if he hadn't been convulsing, he would have looked dead like
2:47:20
there was it was like like lifeless. And so I grabbed the
2:47:26
phone, and I call 911.
2:47:27
In a minute and 20 seconds she says a dispatcher was able to
2:47:31
ping her location and get the nearest deputy directed as soon
2:47:35
as possible. Moments later, she says a team of fire and EMTs met
2:47:39
them calmly helping get Charlie to the hospital for help.
2:47:43
They were so sweet. So that my gratitude came from like I've
2:47:48
never needed it and but when I did cash, they were so amazing,
2:47:51
so quick. I was just in awe
2:47:56
gratitude, they got to share in person with the firefighters
2:48:00
EMTs deputy and dispatcher Misty credits for helping not only her
2:48:05
son, but her to Reott we
2:48:08
talk to people on the worst days of their lives. So when it ends
2:48:11
up with a happy ending, it's very exciting for them to come
2:48:13
up and let us know and let us meet them and get to put faces
2:48:16
to names but it's
2:48:17
their faces their compassion and quick response. This family will
2:48:22
never forget.
2:48:23
I'm praying for you guys every day like you are stuck with us
2:48:26
and baby Charlie for the rest of our lives. Nicole Fierro
2:48:29
Fox are the one
2:48:30
Adam Curry: to be honest. I mean, it's a good news story. It
2:48:32
is. I prefer not to be medical issues where people almost died.
2:48:36
I mean, I like to I just like the like a cat did something
2:48:40
cute. You know? It's the only good news stories you've come up
2:48:44
with so far. It's like something horrible happened. We can't we
2:48:48
can we just have like,
2:48:49
John C Dvorak: you know, like, a cat save a dog and the last one
2:48:53
Adam Curry: I know but it's always saving a life. Good news
2:48:56
stories can just be there was a nice event or everyone had fun.
2:49:02
John C Dvorak: Or you went soft. Good news stories.
2:49:05
Adam Curry: I don't want the almost died. But luckily you
2:49:08
saved my life. I mean, that's. That's boring. We need
2:49:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay. Everyone out there who helps me
2:49:16
find these stories now knows that Adam is picky? Yes, I am.
2:49:19
Well, it's not. He doesn't want good news stories, which that
2:49:22
was I want the bad ones. Good. Lame news stories.
2:49:28
Adam Curry: At least one a month. I need one. That's
2:49:31
John C Dvorak: not a problem.
2:49:33
Unknown: All right. A good news story from JCD happy vibes for
2:49:41
you and me and we all feel better. Now. He's done his bit.
2:49:46
To back to reality. That's turning to shit.
2:49:50
Adam Curry: I have a very good news story. Good news. Good news
2:49:55
who people who are on the juice. And when I say juice I mean the
2:49:59
me In the GLP juice, that's right. Good news, everybody if
2:50:04
you're using the weight loss drugs, good news. In our
2:50:07
Unknown: health cows today, the use of semaglutide drugs, things
2:50:09
like ozempic, and we'll go V don't appear to be associated
2:50:13
with any kind of a higher risk of thinking about suicide.
2:50:15
compared to any other medications. Researchers looked
2:50:19
at 100 million patient records backed by the National
2:50:22
Institutes of Health. And according to their findings, six
2:50:25
months after starting the meds, people taking the drug to lose
2:50:28
weight had a 73% lower risk of first time suicidal thoughts,
2:50:32
and a 56% lower risk of recurrent suicidal thoughts. For
2:50:36
people with type two diabetes. The reductions were 64 and 49%,
2:50:40
respectively. The lower risk were also observed three years
2:50:43
out from taking the medications. And these findings come just
2:50:47
days after the FDA said it was going to review reports of
2:50:50
suicidal thoughts among people using semaglutide and similar
2:50:54
medications. This good knows
2:50:56
Adam Curry: you don't want to kill yourself. This is good. 70%
2:51:02
John C Dvorak: I know that was an issue. I tell you. The
2:51:03
problem with that stuff was your stomach froze up and your drop
2:51:06
dead.
2:51:07
Adam Curry: Well, if you don't die, at least you won't be
2:51:09
killing yourself. It was good. It's good. Everybody's happy. I
2:51:13
think it's and you know what, there's even better news. I
2:51:16
mean, in America, we have I think New Zealand's the only
2:51:21
other country that allows direct consumer advertising of
2:51:28
pharmaceutical drugs. The old America that is correct. New
2:51:33
Zealand doesn't really count. I mean, yeah. But now they're
2:51:37
taking it one step further. This is this is the ultimate. This is
2:51:41
the future. This is how they really want to do it.
2:51:44
Interesting
2:51:44
Unknown: news today drugmaker, Eli
2:51:46
Lilly launched a new online service sending medications
2:51:49
directly to consumers. The new service called Lilly direct will
2:51:54
ship the company's new anti obesity drug to patients who
2:51:57
have a prescription and they will also offer some of the
2:52:00
company's insulin drugs for people with diabetes and a
2:52:04
migraine medication. Just
2:52:06
Adam Curry: send it just do direct. We don't need we don't
2:52:09
need a pharmaceutical industry. We just do a little telehealth
2:52:13
because you know how that is like via you fill out a form on
2:52:16
the website. Yeah, yeah. You don't need a doctor anymore.
2:52:21
Boy, you have to send a mail. Yeah, they'll just they'll just
2:52:24
ask you a few questions fill out the form boom, you've got a
2:52:27
prescription. This is what this is great. I think they finally
2:52:32
got it should you'd think that maybe it would be smart to go
2:52:36
check with a doctor you know, make sure that your doctor feels
2:52:39
is appropriate for you. With
2:52:41
John C Dvorak: these guys having the advantage of being able to
2:52:43
advertise in the one country in the world it's allowed they
2:52:46
would bring everybody in and share the wealth a little bit
2:52:50
but no, no now they decided to take all the money themselves
2:52:54
they're asking for cruisin for a bruisin here this
2:52:57
Adam Curry: by the way out it's not even an American company is
2:53:02
it Novo Nordisk? No, you're right yeah. No, this should be
2:53:05
illegal the screw and they're screwing our business. They're
2:53:08
screwing our drug business they should be there should be some
2:53:11
for Bolton TO BE CUT CUT should be exaggerated for Burb Bowden.
2:53:16
And then this is the worst tease of the week. I mean, I've heard
2:53:23
bad teases. But this one is I mean, if we did this, if we did
2:53:29
this people would be mad at us.
2:53:31
Unknown: Megyn Kelly, they'll fascinating and we're not done
2:53:34
with Jeffrey Epstein. I can tell you that for a fact. How I know.
2:53:38
But I can tell you for a fact. We're going to hear a lot more
2:53:40
about Jeffrey Epstein in the coming year. And you may be even
2:53:44
hearing from him directly. More on that as I'm allowed to tell
2:53:49
you
2:53:49
Adam Curry: as I'm allowed to tell you that I'm
2:53:51
John C Dvorak: allowed what is allowed Paul Crozier who's
2:53:55
pulling your strings that she has to be allowed. I
2:53:58
Adam Curry: don't like it. I don't like it is not cool to do
2:54:01
that. As long as I'm allowed. That's the worst he's ever asked
2:54:06
like he's at all that's like clickbait Don't you think
2:54:09
John C Dvorak: you either? Can you tell us tell us just call us
2:54:13
now can tell us what to do and what to say no can't tell us
2:54:18
back on our show and call her out. I
2:54:20
Adam Curry: have a feeling I'm not going to be called anytime
2:54:22
soon. However, tomorrow I will be doing the Tom Woods show. Tom
2:54:30
Woods that's right Tom Woods show tomorrow everybody that
2:54:33
mean that it will I think it takes takes a day or two before
2:54:37
he actually airs it but I look forward to that. I like tom toms
2:54:40
a good good dude. He's a good dude. Coming up next end of show
2:54:45
mixes Jesse coy Nelson sir TJ the raffle with human resources
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out Rolando Gonzalez. Up next a another live show. This is an
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Hui?
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Unknown: You might die not that many of you are going to die so
2:56:05
don't worry about it go come on me over show Come on. Come on
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come on come on come on. Come on. Come on. All right. God save
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the Queen man. God save the Queen man. God save the Queen
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man
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go NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO DON'T GO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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NO NO NO NO NO NO DON'T
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go alright. God save it
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all over shown. Okay, girls, what did we learn from today's
2:56:58
episode? I'm a proud night Oh well, that's normally true but
2:57:11
anything else everything
2:57:28
they just lie like they've been trying to control for your mind,
2:57:38
you will find it's all over again. This is a scam.
2:57:44
Everything is
2:57:45
run by the CIA
2:58:02
Have you heard the show? Everyone's talking? Are you
2:58:04
divorced, deconstructing? That's a job pointing out stupidity
2:58:07
with an awesome no agenda. Just lies lies and curried the more I
2:58:11
can show you why value for value is their way of just for the
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past 15 years and also produces the best podcast slave
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Adam Curry: scam no. That's a scam. That's a scam.
2:58:43
John C Dvorak: It's a scandal to me. This is a scam. To say
2:58:48
that's a massive scam. More
2:58:50
Unknown: people are entering the United States illegally.
2:58:53
40% of them crossing are families. 60% of adult men
2:58:58
arriving at the southern border additional
2:59:00
enforcement actions are urgently needed. CBP tells the outlet
2:59:03
that there have been 45,000 encounters at the border since
2:59:07
Monday.
2:59:08
The number of asylum seekers in this town of Eagle Pass Eagle
2:59:12
Pass
2:59:13
Texas Eagle Pass Texas is one of the busiest border entry points
2:59:17
in the country.
2:59:18
Hundreds of people were in the cold to be processed by US
2:59:21
border officials.
2:59:23
Who is saying the system is working as it should down there.
2:59:26
They want the highest day of encounters ever recorded. I did
2:59:29
not know that many states are heading for sanctuary cities is
2:59:32
going to be extremely painful for New Yorkers. The mayor now
2:59:35
wants to cut half a billion dollars from education in order
2:59:38
to deal with the influx of illegal in recent
2:59:40
weeks for the police have been recording almost 10,000 people
2:59:44
crossing the border
2:59:45
and we told us
2:59:47
they did not have the manpower or the resources fly
2:59:50
we continue to say we need help. Meanwhile, Texas is now
2:59:54
reportedly adding anti Climate Technology to expensive
2:59:57
training immigration services. You You need funding and they
3:00:01
need more for thanks very much.
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