December 31st, 2023 • 3h 7m
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John C Dvorak: like I haven't
done enough work, Adam curry,
Adam Curry: Jhansi Dvorak and
December 31 2023. This is your
award winning accumulation media
assets and nation episode 1641.
This
Unknown: is no agenda,
Adam Curry: running through the
tape and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas hill
country here in favor. Reason
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: in from other
Silicon Valley where they're all
saying Denmark had a queen.
Well, yeah, she had been
dedicated. I'm Jhansi to kill.
Adam Curry: You should have gone
with the Masked Singer opening.
I mean that that was better.
John C Dvorak: You know, the
Queen of Denmark. abdicate cated
Who does
Adam Curry: she abdicate to?
Does she have a young wing? So
we're gonna have a king? Yeah, I
didn't know this. How old is
she? 82
John C Dvorak: Wow. She's a bad
back and she says you get on her
nerves.
Adam Curry: As she must love her
so her son unlike Elizabeth who
hated her son so much he hung on
there.
John C Dvorak: Forever. She's
like I'm not gonna dammit. Well,
Adam Curry: here we are. John
live. The end of 2023 running
through the tape to 2024 not
looking back. Only looking
John C Dvorak: forward. Yeah,
take a quick glance in the chat
room. Do a count. Oh, okay. Let
me see. Do an early count. catch
him off guard. Oh, okay. Well,
hold on a second. Oops.
Unknown: No joke out.
Adam Curry: 1521
John C Dvorak: for Sunday, yeah,
it's down 1000 Well, I told you
this is why nobody works on
these days. Except does you
Adam Curry: should have started
with a case it should have
started with the massing or
opening I'm telling you
John C Dvorak: I have done it
twice. Yes.
Adam Curry: A couple of Dutch
isms for everybody. So tonight
we will be eating Alibaba we
haven't talked about the only
bullet in a long time. No
John C Dvorak: but did you get
to bring Dutch in I got a
classic coming up. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. I have a couple
other Dutch isms? Totally bola
look it up it's oil balls. Yes,
well balls. The Dutch are eating
oil balls and I realized that
they have very different ways of
saying Happy New Year. Oh the
ducks just learned this now. No,
I just never thought to write it
down 15 of these and I forgot to
write here it is. But it's a
yard obviously. Everyone says
that part of the yard whistling
which means happy year change.
Which is kind of weird. And the
other one is Zala out end which
means lovely ending have a
lovely ending that was thought
of that happy ending but
John C Dvorak: I had one other
lovely ending it sounds like
something a mafia guy was said
to someone. Have a lovely
ending.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
they do. That's what they do in
Holland.
John C Dvorak: Well to celebrate
the end of the year since
nobody's listening anyway,
Adam Curry: I brought new clips
you just went to the archive you
must got new
John C Dvorak: clips. You got a
couple I got to I finally
brought the Al Gore one in but I
want to do a couple of these
classics. Because I have some
classic for New Years and this
is the one I'll play this is the
classic Dutch New Year videos.
Adam Curry: Classic Dutch New
Year videos okay
Unknown: yes, you did indeed
just witness a man fire rocket
from his ass cheeks. Are you
right? This might seem a little
crazy. Or even borderline
insane. But to the Dutch it's
just another New Year's in the
Netherlands 364 days of the year
is quite peaceful. Normally, the
closest the average duchy gets
to war or loss or law on the
31st of December this all
changes their most beloved New
Year's tradition is making their
safe little country feel like a
horse
Adam Curry: see me the gears. I
forgot about the guy with the
bottle rocket from his but
John C Dvorak: yes, it's
classic. Yeah. No agenda
classic, classic video.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the Dutch go
crazy with their fireworks and
it really starts two weeks ahead
of time. There was a report I
forget what station it was and
They had a reporter in Amsterdam
for some reason it was
completely unrelated thing was
even an Israel report but the
reporter was a British reporter
in Amsterdam about Israel. And
it sounds like she was in Israel
with bombs going off because
that's just what it's like in
Holland for full two weeks
before and after the New Year's
and I have to say that Texas is
a bit like that and our dog for
as big a mouth as she has man.
She does not like fireworks.
John C Dvorak: I'd say 90% of
dogs don't like fireworks.
Adam Curry: I mean, she will not
go outside with me to pee. Like,
nope, nope, no, I'll just
crossed my legs. There's
fireworks going off now. For the
for the past week. They've been
going at least some douchebag at
1130 at night or something. Hey,
look at this. I mean, yeah, we
have a lot of fireworks stands
all like 290, which is the road,
our main drag here. I mean,
there must be 50 of them from
Austin between Austin in here.
And, you know, they open on
certain times a year and they're
big containers, just out there
in the fields. And people love
to get their blow up stuff. So
to speak. They love it. They
love blowing stuff up here in
Texas. But the dogs now this dog
is not having it. So that should
be fun tonight,
John C Dvorak: though. Yeah.
Well, there's a Mimi has.
There's some drug that you can
legally give these
Adam Curry: dogs. Yes, it's
called Benadryl. Well,
John C Dvorak: besides me
something besides Well, Benadryl
does work. It works great, great
Adam Curry: dogs like hey, man,
happy ever a lovely ending? She
loves it, man. It's all good.
So, okay, so you'll intersperse
some of these classics
throughout. I
John C Dvorak: have classics a
show. Yeah. Same way that that
Dutch guy has the fireworks and
Adam Curry: yes interspersed
throughout throughout the show.
Well, let me start us off then.
With something that of course
happened on a show day, which
was on Thursday. They waited
until we were done. You
Unknown: said last night that
you're you're not convinced.
Sorry.
Adam Curry: Not that one. That
was good. Good, good leading
curry. We'll try it
John C Dvorak: again. Started
off with a bang.
Unknown: There it is. Just one
week shy of the three year mark
of the January 6, Capitol siege,
Maine's democratic Secretary of
State banned Donald Trump from
the state's primary ballot and
blistered Trump for his actions
before and during the deadly
riot. In
evaluating the weight of
evidence, it made clear that Mr.
Trump was aware of the tinder
that was laid in a multi month
effort to delegitimize the 2020
election, and Tinder then chose
to light a match.
In her 34 Page decision. Sheena
bellows wrote, I am mindful that
no Secretary of State has ever
deprived a presidential
candidate of ballot access based
on section three of the 14th
amendment. I'm also mindful,
however, that no presidential
candidate has ever before
engaged in insurrection,
I was in no way influenced by my
political affiliation or
personal beliefs. About January
6 2021.
Trump's campaign slammed the
order his spokesman Paul bellows
a leftist and a hyper partisan
Biden's supporting Democrat.
Last week Colorado Supreme Court
ruled Trump's name could not
appear on that state's ballot
because the US Constitution
prevents insurrectionists from
holding office, while late last
night California joined Michigan
and Minnesota declining to
remove Trump's name. And there
are challenges filed in more
than a dozen states nationwide.
We really
need a decision from the United
States Supreme Court the
ultimate authority to interpret
what the 14th Amendment to the
United States Constitution says
to determine whether or not
Donald Trump is qualified to run
for and hold the presidency.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think that's
really what this is about. We
just did just want to add one
extra little oomph to
everything. Look at the Supreme
Court. They're no good to know
good to insurrections
themselves. I can't imagine any
other reason for this nonsense,
other than we want Trump to win
because so he can take all the
crap.
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm
beginning to think in that in
those terms more than anything,
which is that we're handing
trump the victory in any way
they
Adam Curry: can. What you do,
it's what you do. And when these
guys
John C Dvorak: like a dubious
and even, Newsom who started I
mentioned the newsletter
discussed this. And Newsom
started off I remember clearly
and I think we've even had a
clip that he wanted to do this
on our ballot here, but then he
pushed back on the guys who did
want it and figure out what's
the point? You're not gonna look
good for him because he's still
trying to get nose out Biden and
he can't look like some sort of,
you know, you can't call Trump a
against democracy when you're
He's pulling these stones. Well,
Adam Curry: he's not against
democracy. He's an
insurrectionists. That's the
question CNN is asking.
Unknown: You said last night
that you're you're not convinced
Supreme Court would actually
take up the question of whether
or not Trump engaged in an
insurrection. That's one of the
big questions. Right is why do
we quantify this under section
three of the 14th? Amendment? If
he hasn't been charged?
criminally, criminally or
convicted? Yeah. Can they really
not take up that part of it?
Because that to me, suicide, so
is even further chaos.
They see this. Hold
John C Dvorak: on a second. Does
that woman even understand how
the Supreme Court works?
Adam Curry: It's Erica Hill.
John C Dvorak: Oh, my God, poor
Ericone.
Adam Curry: No, I don't think
she does to me, she thinks is
just, you know, like People's
Court. Judge Wapner presiding
part
Unknown: of it. Because that to
me, too, is so is even further
chaos.
They can not take up the
question of whether he engaged
in insurrection. And I think
they will not take up the
question of whether he engaged
in insurrection if and when the
Supreme Court takes this, it
will be
John C Dvorak: they will not.
They can, which is what he says
at first. And he says they will
not Well, yeah, they can not
they will not Hello,
Adam Curry: you want to
elaborate? I'm sorry. I have
seen her fever. You wanna you
want to elaborate? The
John C Dvorak: Supreme Court can
only decide on what's before
them. It's not their job to do
anything beyond that. So they
have to decide whether it's
legal or not for these these
ballots to be changed like this,
based on the assumption of those
other courts that can't start
digging into Trump's background
and deciding is an insurrection
is to it got a couple of parking
tickets, and they can't figure
out how come he didn't pay
those. I mean, they don't do
that. It's not how it works.
Unknown: question of whether he
engaged in insurrection if and
when the Supreme Court takes
this, it will be about procedure
and due process. Was he given
fair procedures under the state
law? Is it even up to the states
and secretaries of state to
decide this in the first place?
Or does it have to come from
Congress? I don't think any way
the Supreme Court touches the
insurrectionist question. It
will be based on due process.
Adam Curry: I kind of love that
Zoom call that got out. And how
does this even happen? Oh,
everyone's zoom call is always
online. Get a clue. People can
use Jitsi or something. Can a
clue everyone's are logging in
and recording your calls and
putting them online. They'll
have the same hairdo. They all
have the same vapid look.
They're all roughly the same age
all the Secretaries of State.
It's like is that are they the
sorrows sisters as well? It's
really I think so. Yeah. So of
course, just to be completely
partisan about it. Jesse waters
on Fox, he takes it to this
extreme. Five years
Unknown: after the Civil War,
pro slavery Democrats filled the
halls of Congress. And 15 years
later, pro slavery Confederates
actually flipped the house. 51
former Confederate soldiers or
officials were elected into
office. Even the vice president
of the Confederacy, Alexander
Stevens and arch secessionist
landed a seat in Congress.
Another Confederate rebel Lucius
Lamar, great name, who literally
drafted the Missouri secession
plan, went on to serve as
interior secretary and was later
appointed to the Supreme Court.
But how is that possible?
Because all week we've been
hearing how the Constitution
bans insurrectionists from
office, the 14th amendment. How
would Confederate soldiers be
allowed to serve in government
but not Donald Trump? Well, it
turns out, Congress eviscerated
the 14th amendment 150 years
ago, because President Ulysses S
Grant believed national unity
and reconciliation after the
Civil War was more important
than holding a grudge. This law
has been hollowed out and has
been sitting on the backburner
for years. Well, that is until
Donald Trump came along.
Adam Curry: Yeah, blah, blah,
blah. I love the troll room.
There's always one. There's
always there's always one of the
trolls who says That's right,
because the Dems and Republicans
flip they flipped.
John C Dvorak: Oh, the Flipped
bullcrap.
Adam Curry: Go back to your six.
Oh,
John C Dvorak: Lincoln was a
Democrat. Okay. Well, you
rewrite history if you have to
know they flipped after LBJ.
They flip LBJ flipped and they
flipped the BJ was a Republican.
Adam Curry: He was flipper. She
was unlikely. So of course at
MSNBC, Alex Wagner, she actually
I think they actually this is
this is this is them saying
yeah, we need to have we need to
have Trump on the ballot.
Unknown: Do you worry that
having, for example, the courts
whether the Supreme Court or a
state supreme court decide to
take a candidate off the ballot
to Americans who don't read any
of the rulings who aren't as
familiarized with the events of
January 6 is perhaps you and I
are that that in and of itself
smacks of authoritarianism. Do
you do you see that at all? Or
do you think that that's a
meritless argument?
I think that our system has
already been worn down and
eroded. Donald Trump should not
be allowed to run for president
again, based on the other
branches of government actually
asserting themselves. Right. He
should have been impeached after
January 6, there's never been a
clear case for impeachment in
the history of this country. If
he'd been impeached, you
wouldn't be allowed to run
again. Wait a
Adam Curry: minute. They weren't
impeach him after he was no
longer president.
John C Dvorak: This year, don't
you remember? Yeah, of course,
the courts absent there's never
by the way, there's never been
such a clear case. And emphasize
the fact that there's no
evidence he wasn't at the insert
ends. What did I what am I
saying he wasn't at the protest.
Thank you. He wasn't, you know,
he was in his car being driven
away may have wanted to go to
stop it.
Adam Curry: Don't do it. People.
He tweeted, but it told him not
to do it. But he was part of the
Tindering. He was part of the
kindling in the Tindering. And
he lit the match. He lit the
match.
Unknown: There's never been a
clear case for impeachment in
the history of this country. If
he'd been impeached, you
wouldn't be left running this
guy.
Adam Curry: This is you know,
the Ben Rhodes. Ben Rhodes,
Unknown: the courts? Absolutely.
If you look at the letter of the
law, how is it insurrectionists
allowed to get away with the
insurrection act? Right. But the
reality is, we all know the
Supreme Court is not going to
allow him to be removed in the
ballot. We all know that
Congress did not assert itself.
This question is going to be put
to the American people. I think
inevitably, inevitably, by the
way that inevitably, like,
obviously, it's, you know, the
democratic thing. But
Adam Curry: obviously, we got to
do the democratic thing. Darn.
Obviously,
Unknown: it's, you know, the
democratic thing. But you were
only where we are with Trump
because the other branches of
government and the guardrails
and failed, failed
Adam Curry: the guard rails, the
guard rails. Okay. I've been
thinking I've been thinking a
lot about this, because we kind
of touched on this on the last
show. I think we're both kind of
in agreement now that they want
Trump they want Trump to take
all the nastiness. They didn't
want to dump it all on him. And
I was and I was think why? What
are all the different reasons
for this? So, you know, as you
say, 2025 is going to be it.
That's the cycle for a
financial, as you call it,
downturn. Yeah. downturn, I'm
going to I'm going to call it
deflation, though. We
John C Dvorak: will do this No
way.
Adam Curry: No. Okay. We can say
we know
John C Dvorak: you and that, if
that even begins, people freak
out so much to
Adam Curry: perfect for Trump.
Perfect, perfect for Trump to
deal with. But even even taking
it further, and I never thought
that I would be in on this one.
But the more I think about it,
the more it seems like the
logical the logical thing to
throw on to Trump. Now let's
just take into account when you
shouldn't throw under the Trump
Throw, throw onto Trump onto
that thing is a new phrase. So
first of all we have Biden is
toast. That's never gonna
happen. You know, we've got
people out there screaming he's
genocide. Joe, how many kids you
killed today, Joe? That's not
going to work. He's out. He's
out. The all of the people that
were pro black lives matter are
now pro Palestine. You know,
Biden is seen universally as the
problem here. He's got to go.
It's just there's no chance for
anyone no one wants it. Nobody
wants to be a Democrat in this
presidential election as far as
I can tell. But Trump, when we
had the COVID, let's just call
it a crisis. He's a pushover
when it comes when push comes to
shove. He he relented, he went,
okay. Just two weeks to flatten
the curve. I would call it
choked. Choke is another way to
look at it. So what if they
could they the powers that be
and I think it's always the
financial powers that be? What
if they could create the
ultimate crisis that would
result in something that the
financial sector needs and I
never thought I would resort
back to the 1986 cloud pivot
strategy? Oh, God never know
Glenn Beck? Well, Glenn Beck had
didn't have it, right? Because
he had it partially right. So
the cloud, this cloud is dead.
Francis Fox pivots is still
alive. She's 91 years old. I
looked at a whole bunch of
videos from her oversight.
John C Dvorak: It was Jeremy
Pippins. But very funny.
Adam Curry: And, you know, I
tried to get some good videos.
She's just basically a Marxist,
straight up Marxist. Both of
them were professors at
Columbia. She's now an emeritus
professor, some other some other
university. And, and bearing in
mind just in the back of my head
what the former New York banker
said he said, we win over China
because our population She's
growing, which means because
he's a banker, that means they
get to create money somehow, for
some reason, which is always the
point we have a liquidity crisis
right now. They need reasons,
just like with COVID was handy.
We created $7 trillion, was a
handy little crisis we had, and
Trump didn't stop that he
participated in that. So I'm
going to read the two pertinent
paragraphs from the Clintons.
Cloward, Cloward, Pivens 1966
paper, which she propagated
throughout, well, there's not a
lot of video from her with the
60s other than arguing with
Thomas soul. But in the ad, she
wasn't a lot of shows talking
about this. And recently, like a
year ago, on Amy Goodman, which
is tedious to watch, there was
nothing clippable the title of
the paper was the weight of the
poor, a strategy to end poverty.
And the strategy is based on
this fact that there's a
discrepancy between the benefits
to which people are entitled
under pet public welfare
programs, and the money they
actually receive. And their
whole idea was, there's probably
8 million people, maybe even
more who deserve some kind of
public benefits, entitlements.
But a lot of them don't even
know how much they're entitled
to. And their whole strategy,
which is literally called the
strategy in the paper, the
strategy to end poverty was to
get the unions and all the
worker groups. And of course,
we're seeing this now because
the people on the streets, you
know, hohoho, genocide, Joe,
they're all from Socialist
Workers, party, all kinds of
socialists, not jobs out there
with professionally printed
signs. The idea is to get so
many people claiming welfare
that they have the right to that
it creates a financial and
political crisis. That's the
idea. It was nothing else but
then never really, Russian
John C Dvorak: it was the make
it simpler. The idea of these
people, the idea was that you
can crush our country, yes, like
overwhelming the system. And
that's kind of what's going on
with the border with this kind
of a test case is you
overwhelmed the border with all
these people come barreling in,
and you can't do anything about
it? Because you just you just
let it happen. And but
overwhelming the system is a way
to destroy the system.
Adam Curry: And the end, the
ultimate goal, as per the paper,
would they call general basic
income, because that would
flatten everything out? That
would make it a fair for
everybody. Everybody gets a
basic living wage from the
government. And that was the
final ultimate goal of their
strategy. And I don't think it's
this is not a test. This is the
real deal. 10,000 people a day.
That's and that's that's just
what we know of. So I think the
idea is, it's still going to
take a while the system is
strained. But it's not. It's not
collapsing yet. But you keep
this going for 2024. I think we
can get there. I think they can
succeed with overwhelming the
system. We're seeing the city's
already complained. A lot of
complaining, is it overwhelmed?
Not yet, but it will be if they
keep this up. And there's no
evidence that the Republicans
actually want to fix this. I
mean, it's gonna be fixed today.
One word like America's closed,
if you're not coming into the
proper channels go away. We're
not letting you in. That's it.
It's just a policy. The laws are
on the books, but they're all
negotiating from the military
industrial complex, like, oh,
you know, we need to have money
for Israel and money for
Ukraine, but not until you fix
the border. So, so they're all
disingenuous, and I don't even
think it's like one. It's not
like some secret cabal that is
just putting this together. It's
just all these different little
pieces, some evil forces making
this happen. And by the time it
gets to the breaking point,
Trump can be president, bingo,
boom, Shakalaka. We get to the
system falls apart. And I think
that then the suggestion will
come and Elizabeth Warren and
all these, and Maxine Waters and
all these people who have been
doing this for a couple of years
now, I'm going to pop up and the
best thing for them is going to
be the central bank, digital
currency the Federal Reserve
will have it does take an act of
Congress to put that in place in
America, they will be ready for
it. They've already tested
universal basic income and 28
different cities. It'll it'll be
perfect and Trump will go
because everyone wants money.
Look at all the videos Trump
he's my man. You got the black
guys got the spat and Hispanics,
like Yeah, Trump because we got
money under Trump. They want
money, and Trump's gonna give it
to him because that's what will
be presented to him as the
solution to the solution to the
crisis, just as flatten the
curve was just as the vaccine
was and I think he'll buckle and
he'll or choke as you say, and
he'll he'll go for it. That
would be that would be the plan.
And the reason to have Trump
now, you know, spurred on by
these phony baloney take them
off the ballot, which only makes
him more popular. I'm sure that
this leftists are going yeah,
that's not cool man. And I
really think that that would be
a perfect, a perfect plan to try
and destroy the system the
country and get what they've
always wanted. And I think most
of Congress wants that. They you
know, and then we can get rid of
all the other welfare systems,
we just create money and give it
to people. It's in your app. You
probably think I'm crazy. Well,
you
John C Dvorak: can blame it on
Trump after that. Yes, of
course. Of course.
Adam Curry: Of course, then that
no Democrat wants to wants to
shepherd that in or Usher that
in. Now you you want to be want
that to be a Republican, blame
it on him, and Trump is the
perfect guy for it. We already
know that. That was the test.
Oh, okay. All right. Okay, fell
for it.
John C Dvorak: Well, Trump said
would be, like you said, a good
fall guy. He has already shown
the ability. So now Yeah, well,
but of course you can't, you
know, you never know. Things can
happen. It should be a great
Trump may have learned a lesson.
Adam Curry: It'll be a great
year for the show. Wow. If it's,
you know, what lessons that he
learned, he learned that people
love him when he when he signs
the checks. That's that's his?
Unknown: Well, he's,
John C Dvorak: I'm hoping he
learned more than that. He's
Adam Curry: also just a man. I
mean, ultimately, he's just the
guy. And he's not like some
superhero. He's just the dude
who sees what's going on. But
he's like,
John C Dvorak: I was watching.
The gut felt show which you
don't like. And that I had to
say cat. Tim had a good just as
one comment, she said that this
thing had happened in Maine. All
it does is add another five to
10 minutes to Trump set.
Adam Curry: She didn't write
that. But it must have been the
right No,
John C Dvorak: no, that's
everything that done that shows
pretty much written by some
good, some pretty talented
writers that will who they keep
off, they don't do a credit roll
on that show ever. No. Why would
you do that don't give up those
writers would be poached so fast
that they wouldn't know what
happened. You can't have that.
So we don't know who's writing
the show at all. And they say
I'm pretty convinced that the
guys who are writing the show
are some of the kind of semi
comics that come on the show as
guests and that includes that
Joe Mackay character, who is
kind of a stand up comic, but
he's, you can see that he
because his material that he
presents as himself on the show
is exactly the same as
everybody. I mean, he's, I
believe he's the head writer. Be
anyone who watches the show.
Adam Curry: I don't care. So the
Wall Street Journal had this
article headline, Francis
Collins has regret regrets, but
too few. And it references a
video Francis Collins, he was
Fauci, his boss, if you recall,
and a very, very weird dude
memory was playing his guitar
making up songs about staying
home and lock downs and his wife
was dancing in the background.
Yeah, that guy? Well, he was
Fauci, his boss, he was a part
of a lot of the back, back room
oh, ceiling. Oh, and he
resigned. He resigned before the
crap started to hit the fan
about gain of Lies, lies, gain
of function, research, etc. So
I'm unsure where this video is
from Wall Street Journal says it
appeared on x. So I don't know
where it's from. Hopefully,
that's two videos. Hopefully
someone will tell me. But
Francis Collins is indeed
leading the way in an apologist
tour about what happened. And we
start with this quick clip.
Unknown: As a guy living inside
the beltway, feeling this sense
of crisis trying to decide what
to do in some situation room in
the White House with people who
had data that was incomplete. We
weren't really thinking about
what that would mean, to Wilkin,
his family in Minnesota 1000
miles away from where the virus
was hitting so hard. We weren't
really considering the
consequences in communities that
were not New York City, or some
other big city, the public
health people. We've talked
about this earlier. And it's
really important point, if
you're a public health person,
and you're trying to make a
decision, you have this very
narrow view of what the right
decision is. And that is
something that will save a life
doesn't matter what else
happens. So you attach infinite
value to stopping the disease
and saving a life. You attach
zero value to whether this
actually totally did syrups
people's lives ruins the
economy, and has many kids kept
out of school in a way that they
never write quite required for
collateral damage. So there
Yeah, collateral damage. This is
a public health mindset. And I
think a lot of us involved in
trying to make those
recommendations had that
mindset. And that was really
unfortunate. That's another
mistake we made. Wow.
Adam Curry: He's admitting
mistakes. This is very
interesting. And then he goes
one step further and express his
regret around the Great
Barrington declaration. Now, you
remember, the Great Barrington
declaration was this open letter
published in October of 2020, in
response to the pandemic and the
lockdown saying, Hey, we got to
stop this. This is not the way
to go. You know, this thing is
not dangerous. It's not. And by
the way, that not dangerous
thing that went on for two more
years, even though everybody and
you'll even hear Francis Collins
agree that no, it wasn't that
dangerous. People over 65. Yeah,
we had to protect them. But
everybody else did. You should
get we should get it and then
you'll build up natural
immunity. And that was the that
was the the suggested the
suggestion from several. Were
they I think they were there
were scientists with a pen.
virologist can't remember what
it was. It was
John C Dvorak: Gupta, variation
of people, but mostly viral
virologist. Yeah.
Adam Curry: And you'll recall
that there was some back and
forth between Fauci and Collins,
saying, you know, we've got a
knock this, we got to get rid of
this right now. This is crazy.
Of course, there's no mention of
the fact that Pfizer was gearing
up, you know, we had operation
warp speed. The vaccines were in
their final testing phase, they
were getting rid of all the
paperwork of all the dead
people. And we were ready to
roll it out. So we can't have
any of that he's not going to
mention that other than his
regrets here.
Unknown: So this was October of
2020. We had no vaccines, people
were dying at high rates at that
point across the country, but
particularly in cities.
Adam Curry: I might add being
put on ventilators and killed
John C Dvorak: there, or dying
for other reasons and wishes doc
heavily documented. Yes, they
die for getting in the car
wreck, but they had COVID they
get because there was there was
incentives to the hospitals and
the doctors, they got extra
money if it was a COVID death.
So everybody was dying of COVID
Yes,
Adam Curry: and I'm not even
sure that Collins was aware of
that. I don't think this was
very mind
John C Dvorak: that still may or
may still not be aware of no
kidding high
Unknown: rates at that point
across the country, but
particularly in cities. There
was a hope we might have a
vaccine or another couple of
months, but nobody knew who was
going to work. These three
epidemiologists very distant,
Adam Curry: that's interesting.
So in October, they didn't know
if it was gonna work. I thought
it was ready by October. But
they held it back, you remember
was like, oh, no, no way.
John C Dvorak: They held it back
past the elections because the
Ebola and the other and all the
heads of these vaccine companies
didn't want Trump to get
Adam Curry: elected. Yeah. Well,
also, Kamala Harris was even
saying, Oh, no, I won't take a
Trump vaccine. Oh, no,
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
tell everybody all that liberal
said we will take the Trump
vaccine. But once it became
Biden vaccines, same exact
product, it was fine.
Unknown: These three
epidemiologists, very
distinguished by their
credentials, were convened in a
gathering in Massachusetts, by
Scott Atlas, who was at that
time advising the president,
Adam Curry: very hated by the
media hated was a nutjob
conspiracy theorists Crazy guy.
Unknown: And they put together
this short declaration which
said, let's stop with closures
of businesses and schools. Most
people who are under 60 or 65,
if they get the virus, they're
going to survive. Let's not try
to protect them. Let's try to
protect those who are
vulnerable, the elderly, and
maybe some others who are
compromised. And eventually the
virus will run its course
through the healthier people.
And we will be able to get
through this without so much
damage done to daily life. It
was sort of a letter rip as far
as the younger people I will
maybe it's not a great phrase,
but that was different than what
was currently being proposed and
different. That declaration
would have been a great
opportunity for a broad
scientific discussion about the
pros and cons, but that's not
how it was presented. The day it
was presented. It was presented
to the Secretary of Health and
Human Services, Alex Azar it
would have been presented the
next day to the President if he
wasn't in Walter Reed at the
time being treated for COVID
This was an effort to take a
very fast track of something
which would have potentially
been a major change in national
policy without the opportunity
for any debate or discussion.
And,
Adam Curry: by the way, this is
where Trump folded. He folded on
this, even though I think since
Scott Atlas, quit over this,
ultimately, he's like, God, no
one listened to me. This is what
we should do. As
Unknown: somebody who is deeply
engaged in the federal effort to
try to save lives, I saw this
and I was deeply troubled, I
regret that I use some
terminology that I probably
shouldn't
Adam Curry: conspiracy theorists
as what you call them, and
Unknown: that somebody should
put forward a devastating take
down to the dangerous here, and
I regret that, but I was deeply
worried. And in a few days, no
less than 14 of the public
health or associations of the
United States all together,
wrote a scathing takedown of the
Great Barrington declaration
saying this would probably kill
10s of 1000s of people,
Adam Curry: we should probably
see if there's any Pfizer or
Maderna money involved with
those 14 organizations that
wrote this scathing response.
And
Unknown: so ultimately, that was
the scientific discussion. But
the effort was made by the
authors and some help from Dr.
Atlas, to try to short circuit
all that and get that into a
policy decision without the
opportunity for debate. So I
don't regret saying this is
dangerous. It was
Adam Curry: He can't just say
I'm sorry. Can't just say he
can't say, you know, I screwed
that up. I'm sorry. Which is too
bad. But he gets close. And of
course now he's really
John C Dvorak: hated close is
not good enough. But I mean,
Adam Curry: I have to forgive
everybody. I'm not going to look
backwards, you know, they
they'll have to deal with it the
at the end of their rope when
they have their their happy
ending. They'll have to find out
what they get punished for. But
they have their sudden death.
Yeah, well, speaking of such
Pfizer Kmart advisor is doing
really odd promotional videos.
And they're putting on YouTube
and I'm sure it's part of a
package that maybe will be
promoted by the morning teams in
the new year, but they just
completed their acquisition of
Cgn for $54 Billion. See, Jen is
an interesting company.
Unknown: Throughout history, the
relentless pursuit of discovery
has driven us to go beyond what
we ever thought possible. But
our greatest challenges still
lie ahead. In the US alone, one
in three people will receive a
diagnosis of cancer in their
lifetime. That likely means you
or someone you know, will
someday face this devastating
disease,
Adam Curry: notice the music and
the explosions.
Unknown: That's why Pfizer is
going in on cancer. We have the
game changing science and scale
to take all this disease. And
now with the addition of CJ, a
world leader and a powerful
cancer fighting tool, we are
pioneering a new revolution in
cancer care. We will harness
cutting edge science and
technologies to attack cancer
from multiple angles. at Pfizer.
We believe that time is life and
for patients waiting for
breakthroughs, each day matters.
We won't rest until we change
the trajectory of cancer as we
know.
Adam Curry: Yes, change the
trajectory of cancer as we know
it turbo cancers it's very handy
that they now have completed
that acquisition. They've got
some more genetic theoret
therapies that they can use on
people and I guess that's going
to change the trajectory of
cancer. I mean, problem reaction
solution can't get any better.
And then they have learned a lot
from Joe Biden's you're gonna
kill grandma, if you don't. If
you don't take the shot.
Remember that? Empty Chair at
the table?
John C Dvorak: Yes, Biden's
empty chair. Yeah, they have
taken
Adam Curry: it full on for their
next campaign.
Unknown: I was a wonderful place
to raise a family. Everything
moves a little slower here. We
all know each other. This is
home. I love it here. Hi, I'm
Tammy adverts, and I'm a mother
of two daughters. I have nine
grandchildren. I'm also a
private music teacher and a
substitute teacher. The
wonderful thing about having my
grandkids in this area is I get
to see them all the time. I want
to go to the soccer games
through dance recitals. I just
don't want to miss a moment of
their lives. The fall of 2019
Iced You're going to get this
cough I could not get rid of it
took forever for someone to
finally say, why don't we send
you to a pulmonologist and they
said you have asthma. And it
wasn't long after that my
contracted RSV from my grandson
I went to babysit my youngest
daughter who told me that they
had tested positive for RSV, I
just put a mask on. I thought I
was safe. I had always thought,
Oh, that's a kid's thing. And
the next day, my whole head
filled up and it just started to
go down into the chest, which
terrified me was having asthma.
I was sick in bed for good 10 to
12 days, lifeless, my chest was
tight. I was coughing up buckets
of mucus. How am I going to get
through this? What if I die in
the night? I was terrified. I
began thinking how am I going to
be around children, which is my
job, and my grandchildren. It
just broke my heart. I don't
want to be afraid that I'm
always going to catch something
from innocent little kids. I
would just love for everyone to
take this seriously. Because you
don't know how it will affect
you. If and when you get it.
Going through RSP wasn't in
vain? Not at all. I can help
other people. So there's my
story.
Adam Curry: There you go. Mask
doesn't work. Does you know, I
thought the mask would work. No,
the mask doesn't work. I got it
from my grandkids. If only I had
known, if only I'd
John C Dvorak: ever heard of RSV
before five years ago
personally. But okay, I know
it's been around everyone's
noticed this.
Adam Curry: Well, it certainly
is not something that old people
had to take vaccines for because
their kids are going to kill
them. And that's that's just
evil. This
John C Dvorak: is a another
example of why these ads should
be banished from from publisher
the Oh, the you know, the crying
on screen stuff. Yeah. Then
Adam Curry: there's one more
it's a short one. We realized
that here at Pfizer, we have
many medications that we sell
you. We don't want you taking
generics, no generics for you.
Unknown: My name is Lev Kubiak.
I've been with Pfizer for just
about six years. Within global
security, we have a breakthrough
goal to do as much as we can to
eliminate counterfeit medicines.
Illicit medicines are a problem
in every country around the
world. Right now we're seeing a
rash of young people who are
purchasing prescription
medicines from online and
unknowingly getting fentanyl
laced pills that can
instantaneously kill them. I
worry about the elderly people
who are on fixed income may be
shopping for medicines on the
internet seeking lower prices,
and get duped by criminal
organizations into buying
counterfeit medicines. The new
campaign of no fakes for health
sake incorporates all of the
elements into an effort to
hopefully have a true
breakthrough moment that would
change patient's lives if no one
fell victim to counterfeit
medicines.
Adam Curry: That's right.
Generic is the new counterfeit.
You're shopping for something
cheap online from Canada from
India. They're counterfeit and
they're gonna kill you. That's
for sure. Yeah, that's for sure.
If that wasn't enough, we got a
report today COVID-19 could
trigger a heart failure
pandemic. Oh, yes. It's the j n
dot one strain is going to kill
you know, from heart failure.
Hmm. Yeah, sure. It's the J and
I
John C Dvorak: don't know how
they can keep I think that you
can keep this going. I mean, I
do like the idea that Pfizer is
because they've sent out the the
clot shot as some people like to
call it and it was sudden death.
Their digests doubled down,
because that's what you do. You
can't ever back off on this or
you're going to be in court. You
all
Adam Curry: Yeah, they can't,
they can't admit to it. And I
think it's interesting what
Collins is doing, because he's
walking a fine line there. I
know. He's retired and
everything. But is he trying to
make good or what is he trying
to do? Why is he doing he's
John C Dvorak: never He never
worked for Pfizer or any of the
big drug companies that I know
of? Or am I wrong? Everyone else
has I wouldn't make sense.
Adam Curry: I wouldn't be so
sure about that. You don't think
he's on any patents? You don't
think he's getting anything? No,
he would get all those million
dollar awards for being a
Christian in medicine or
something like that. Maybe? My
questions in Japan though
there's a there's something
called caregiver fatigue.
Elderly Care increasingly
killing off of aging population
to cut costs, just kill them and
like Canada.
John C Dvorak: Class One we're
cutting costs greater than
bottom line
Adam Curry: is a great way.
There's a great way of doing it.
Great way of doing it.
John C Dvorak: So I want to do a
little climate stuff here. Oh,
okay. And I want to start by
talking I had that clip I said,
I promised to bring it along.
It's the Al Gore clip, as long
as part of the reasons as long
as it is because it's, I have to
what you're going to hear it has
been sweetened by me.
Adam Curry: has or has not. Has
it has Oh, so you Oh, we a
everybody. It's a Christmas and
New Year's miracle blips and
booms and bongs from John. Now
John C Dvorak: the thing is, I
decided what I'm going to do in
the future is I'm going to run a
laugh track under these things.
Adam Curry: Especially with Gore
that's hard to do to do a good
laugh track.
John C Dvorak: It takes time
I've been trying for years and
it is hard to it's harder to do
than people imagine. Yeah. You
can do it with a hammer. There's
ways of doing it. I just haven't
been able to get the rig set up
properly. But But here's Al
Gore. This is he's on I believe
this is PBS and he's just on and
he's just allowed they asked him
a simple question. What do you
think the future? What's in the
future? The new head is the
news. Our guy asked him and he's
allowed to just ramble, ramble
and ramble and ramble with bull
crap. What's
Unknown: changed in a day? The
street? Wrong one, this one I
got you doesn't act what? What's
the worst case scenario? Well,
the scientists who warned us of
these mega storms and the the
floods and mudslides and
droughts and ice melting in the
sea level rising and the storms
getting stronger in the tropical
diseases and climate migrants
crossing international borders
and larger numbers. They were
dead, right? When they warned us
about this, and so we need to
pay more attention to them. Now,
here's one thing they say if we
don't take action, there could
be as many as 1 billion climate
refugees crossing international
borders in the next several
decades. Well, a few million has
contributed to this wave of
populist authoritarianism, and
dictatorships and so forth. What
would a billion do, we can't do
this, we can lose our capacity
for self governance. Already,
we're seeing people driven from
the places they always called
home. And we're seeing an
expansion of areas in the world
that are physiologically
unlivable. Now, because of the
combination of heat and
humidity. They're relatively
small areas now. But if we don't
act, they will expand to include
most of India, large parts of
northern South America, the
Philippines, Indonesia,
Pakistan, and the list goes on.
Ours, the survival of our
civilization is at stake. And it
sounds dark, but it is dire. And
but again, the good news is we
can reclaim control of our
destiny, if we summon the the
political will and the courage
and the moral courage to do it.
You know, there's a European
politician Claude Juncker, who
said, We all know what to do. We
just don't know how to be
reelected, if we do it. Well.
This is why grassroots pressure
from people who understand how
high the stakes are, is the
critical element. And the good
news, again, is people are
rising up and demanding action.
Your new CNN poll shows that
more than three quarters of
Americans, including a majority
76% of independents, and more
than half of the Republicans
support action. We just have to
break the political power that
the fossil fuel industry has
exerted with its fixers and its
lobbyists and its bags of money
and its revolving door
colleagues. But we can do this
Jake, we can do it.
Adam Curry: Do you remember back
in the day when when this first
started, at least when we were
doing the show and there was
another revival of Al Gore and
peak oil and people would say
you guys are getting money from
the from the fossil fuel
companies, you get money for it.
That's what's going on there.
And there's always those guys
and there's another good reason.
Another good way to to the
buffalo Trump. It's like hey,
these are climate refugees. Man
put some money into climate
change, will you
John C Dvorak: that stupid.
Here's 12 years ago, this is
that I have two more Al Gore
clips from 12 years ago, but
he's actually improved his bit.
I think because he's got the
climate refugees which he never
discussed it. Let's start with
this one. This is the claim Make
classic 12 Gore weather equals
climate.
Unknown: A hidden new
information that I'll be focused
on in this new version of the
slideshow includes a lot of the
new startling evidence linking
evidence, these extreme weather
events around the world to the
climate crisis. It's really no
longer a legitimate question for
doubt or debate. I know there's
some people that don't like to
hear it put that way. But people
around the world are suffering
from the consequences of the
droughts and heat waves and the
extreme flooding events and the
unprecedented wind storms and
the fires. It's really gotten to
the point now where it's kind of
absurd for anybody to say, hey,
nothing's going on. What what's
what's wrong? July was in the US
the hottest month ever measured,
and globally, nine of the 10
hottest years ever measured have
been within the last 10 years.
This is the 337 month in a row
where temperatures were higher
than the 20th century average.
And the fact that the news media
doesn't report it in that
context. Every night on the news
now practically, is like a
nature hike through the book of
Revelation. God, there it is.
John C Dvorak: Well, here he is.
Here he is, again, this is the
gore going on with Climate
Reality again over over a decade
ago, I think this is 2011. But
this is this is this never ends.
Unknown: What can change in a
day, a street can become a
river, a mountain become a
mudslide. A forest can become
Kembla. Across the globe,
cataclysmic weather events are
occurring with such regularity
that it's being called a new
norm meeting fine, but there's
nothing normal about it. And
there's something else that lies
destroyed amid the rubble, the
truth about climate change. Big
Oil and big coal are spending
big money to spread doubt about
climate change. They've been
able to do so quietly, but not
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the doubt, reveal the deniers
and catalyze urgency around an
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us. Climate change is not your
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John C Dvorak: So this was an
event called The Climate Reality
day and a yearly thing it went
on for 24 hours. I think it was
in 2012. Was
Adam Curry: that the channel he
bought? Didn't he buy a cable
channel for a hot minute? Yeah,
he had current currently call
your current Yes.
John C Dvorak: And he declared
that reality event. You can look
it up on the Wikipedia. It's
called Climate Reality. And it
was a dud, it was a huge dud. We
never got anywhere with it and
never even Earth Day, which is
still going on. But this thing
dropped dead. It just didn't
happen. And they didn't prove
anything.
Adam Curry: Well, here, here's
what we can expect in this new
year. I think because everyone's
out. It's funny, because of
Trump probably but they haven't
done their typical thing on I
only got science news, who had
the headline climate change may
2023, the hottest year on
record. I haven't seen a lot of
that from the television
networks. And I did see concern
over record this is New York
Times concern over record high
water levels in the Netherlands.
Very scary. Yeah, most of the
Netherlands is under sea level.
So I read this headline and of
course I speak Dutch so I go to
all the Dutch publications. Do
you know what the headline is
there?
John C Dvorak: I'm guessing not
quite as severe. Who is
Adam Curry: the Masked Singer
it's not a single thing about is
like oh yeah, there was little
concern last week but
everything's gonna be okay.
They've dealt with this for a
long time. Not to
John C Dvorak: the Dutch of all
people of course. They
Adam Curry: know how to do it.
They they built the whole Delta
Works the whole system,
something you in California
could use
Unknown: for Montecito to the
Bay Area, waves as high as 40
feet or pan only in a California
coastline. in Ventura County
this are flooded streets with
debris reaching several blocks
inland. The fire department they
are saying eight people were
sent to the hospital after this
rogue wave smashed into a
seawall swamping a pickup truck.
And incinerator. These children
were nearly swept away by the
gigantic swells.
We've got high swells. We've
got waves coming in directions.
We're not used to them coming
even the most seasoned swimmer
and surfer. This is dangerous
water
on Thursday. Coastal flooding
warnings were in effect for much
of Central California. While
evacuation orders were issued in
several communities in Santa
Cruz and Marin counties, it's a
pure
state of panic, to be honest, as
far as the community goes,
because, you know, there's
plenty out there that are not
prepared. Further
sound lifeguards kept
inexperienced swimmers out of
the water. But many experts
surfers took advantage of the
rare opportunity to ride waves
as high as a two storey
building.
Adam Curry: This is something
that happens periodically in
California. I remember
John C Dvorak: all the time. It
happens at least once a year. It
happens up here. It hasn't
happened recently, but they have
that special surfing
competition. No doubt it would
have been ridiculous waves
coming out. We're gonna have a
competition Surf's up dude. Now
something I think is a little
more rare, which I have a clip
of which is climate the channel
got flooded.
Adam Curry: No, it's not the
channel. It's not the channel
but okay. Oh, yeah. No, no, I'll
play your clip. Oh, we're
Unknown: breaking a key passage
from Great Britain to Europe.
Flooding has forced the closure
of a rail tunnel between London
and France. This after
unprecedented flooding around
the British capital. Eurostar,
which operates trains from
London to Paris, Brussels and
Amsterdam cancelled all of its
services in and out of the city
leaving hundreds stranded in
railway stations. More travel
chaos is expected as Storm
Garrett continues to batter the
UK with high winds and heavy
rain. Notice
Adam Curry: the UK gets battered
California gets pounded. It's
wasn't the channel that's
leaking. It's it's a poor
infrastructure in the UK that
actually sprung a leak flooding
Unknown: in a tunnel under the
River Thames has bought all
Eurostar train services to a
halt. That's disrupted the
holiday travel plans of many
people bound for London, Paris,
Brussels and Amsterdam. Strong
winds and heavy rain have
battered the UK cast as a
warning of more stormy weather
ahead.
Music for the masses stranded at
London St Pancras station. The
flooded tunnel has brought
Eurostar trains to a standstill
and disrupted holiday plans.
Many travelers are now
scrambling to reach their
destination as the clock ticks
down to 2024. The chaos started
when this undersea rail tunnel
flooded in England, which is
being hit by a spell of severe
weather. The rail operator says
the flooding is unprecedented
Eurostar trains link London to
mainland Europe.
Adam Curry: So it was the crappy
infrastructure of the British
town so you're
John C Dvorak: telling me it's
just a tunnel in England and not
the shuttle per se?
Adam Curry: Yes, correct. Yeah.
It's their infrastructure. But
you know, got to close the
channel and maybe it is leaking
flow
John C Dvorak: they do have they
have they've their subway system
floods every so often to or so
Adam Curry: does New York. I
mean, all these things have you
know what? Life is not perfect.
It's not Disneyland when
John C Dvorak: you get something
underground under a bunch of
water. Yeah, yeah, things
happen. That because of rising
tides, just back to
Adam Curry: Al Gore for a
moment, you know, he, he entered
this. His original entrance into
the climate scam was to set up a
carbon credit trading market was
Yeah, that wasn't even that guy
who was doing the first one.
Yeah, the guy he died the the
guy who originally set that up
with I forgot who that was.
John C Dvorak: And he was
different. I think he was the
finance guy. He was sorry to
make this thing work. And so
when he died in that, it wasn't
gonna work anyway, it really
was.
Adam Curry: So it was like the
Adam curry of carbon. You know,
like, I always have all these
great ideas and I'm 10 years too
early and everyone else becomes
a billionaire.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's it.
Adam Curry: Let me see who
Maurice something was Maurice I
think was Maurice Maurice. What
was his name? Murray's mix a
lot. CC X CC x was the what was
that thing? Anyway, maybe the
troll room knows. Maurice
anyway. But that's also coming
around because I'm gonna I have
my one classic clip of my own,
which I will take back to almost
one year ago, January, when it's
not much
John C Dvorak: of a classic.
Adam Curry: It's a classic
light. When the Biden
administration and announced
that they would be putting they
would be calculates the new
asset class if you can remember.
Yeah, asset class is and in
fact, I think you and Horowitz
talks about on DH unplugged DH
unplugged every Tuesday live.
Well, he's so nice to promote us
all the time I feel bad
John C Dvorak: promotes us all.
At every show he does.
Adam Curry: More eco log rolling
Maurice Strong. It just came to
me. No thanks to you troll room,
Maurice Strong was the guy's
name. So the you guys are
talking about the UK putting
prostitution and cocaine on
their balance sheet. Once you
guys talking about that?
John C Dvorak: Prostitution and
cocaine. Yeah,
Adam Curry: this a couple years
back, they decided to put that
onto the balance sheet saying
oh, well, that's part of our
GDP.
John C Dvorak: Because it was
even I don't remember that. But
you don't remember. It's
something we would have talked
Adam Curry: about. Yeah. Well, I
thought I heard about it again
on DHS. Like I know, we talked
about it. I wonder if we have a
clip of it. Let me see. You kill
you know,
John C Dvorak: technically.
Adam Curry: Here we go.
Unknown: Yes. Well, I'm
John C Dvorak: gonna put the
drug trade on the balance sheet
that's gonna pump up your GDP by
billions. prostitution. I don't
know what the number is on that.
But I don't think it's as high.
I think, you know, that I think
I don't even know what the
prostitution situation is
anymore. It seems that it's all
online. But
Adam Curry: it's still it's
still part of the GDP. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I would think so.
Anyway, so
Adam Curry: the Biden
administration decided that, oh,
we're gonna put parts of the
United States nature onto our
balance sheet, which would be
another great because Trump,
he's a macro guy, he would love
this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we can
just count that as a part of our
GDP, it'll make my numbers look
great.
Unknown: So central banks are
also starting to understand
nature has real value, carbon,
we already figured out. And
carbon is moving very quickly
into a system where it's going
to be very close to a currency,
basically being able to take a
ton of absorbed or sequestered
carbon, and be able to create a
forward pricing curve with
financial service architecture,
documentation, I just came out
of a meeting this morning, how
we're trying to accelerate that,
to be quite honest not to get
very boring that we're on
financial topics and things, but
they're going to be derivatives.
And you need is the
documentation if you want to
trade a derivative in the
marketplace. And all of this
actually matters for nature as
well. I'm going to quickly hand
off but again, I want to talk
about value one more guarantee
John C Dvorak: Yellowstone. So
what my trade some shares a
Yellowstone and give me some
shares a Yosemite, yeah.
Yellowstone, I'm gonna get some
futures, hey,
Adam Curry: they just the UAE
just bought a third of Zambia or
whatever. For carbon credits,
this is exactly what they're
talking about. It's crazy,
because the
Unknown: southern part of the
world has value far greater than
large elements of the northern
part. And we started thinking
about and putting prices on
water on trees on biodiversity,
we find where does that doing a
lot of work out of Asia. And I
say that my next door neighbor,
Indonesia is the left lung of
the world. And obviously,
Brazil, right? And Africa,
absolutely critical. And we need
their natural capital. As a
system based world more than
really, that 66 billion we've
got sitting in the basement of
the Bank of England. So how do
we and I'm hoping this
discussion today, at least from
a central bankers point of view,
and how do we start tokenizing?
How do we start building system
tokenize that actually create
not only the value but transfer
that value around the world? So
Adam Curry: this is what your no
agenda show? Does. We had this
one year ago, we talked about
this. Then we saw at COP 28.
What do we see? We saw the UAE
buying large swaths of Africa
for carbon credits. And you
heard something else in there
biodiversity is worth money.
Well, let's give you a jingle
from seven years ago. We are
ahead of the curve here it is
Wall Street
John C Dvorak: that was a lot
older than that.
Adam Curry: 2017 Oh, yeah. So
it's seven, seven years old.
Wall Street Journal. From May
29 2014. Drugs prostitution, add
10 billion pounds to the UK
economy. overhaul of how GDP is
calculated to include
contribution of illegal
activity. And they still they
still suck, they still can't
make it work. And they put
hookers and blow on there.
That's pathetic. His grip is
great. Yeah, everything Joe
we're gonna tokenize it well,
that sounds fantastic. tokenize
everything and, and you were
talking about the gas no more
gas. As homes, no more gas and
new buildings. You talked about
that in the last show did a clip
last show was yes those Yeah,
well, here's the follow up so
the
Unknown: state of Illinois is
ringing in the New Year with
what else new environmental
regulations
on January 1, the Land of
Lincoln will be the first state
to require all new homes and
apartment buildings to be
equipped with electric vehicle
charging stations as the quote
right to charge movement.
Currently, 10 states already
have a right to charge policy in
place and a number to grow as
blue states look to jumpstart
the Democrats forced transition
to EVs right
Adam Curry: to charge right to
charge
John C Dvorak: when did we not
have the right to charge
Adam Curry: movement? Haven't
you heard?
John C Dvorak: There's there's
so some suppression going on
that we need the right to
charge. I'm wondering,
Adam Curry: I didn't look this
up. But I'm sure that this is
some great industry.
John C Dvorak: Is there a
charging station that has that
which is expensive? That has to
be built into new homes? Is that
going to be in the garage here
it
Adam Curry: is right to that's
everywhere right to charge laws?
Right to charge plug in America?
There's your group right there
plug in america.org Those guys
about a boot? Is
John C Dvorak: this a in the
garage? Yeah, well, you're not
supposed to put your electric
car anymore, because the
insurance won't cover you your
house when it burns to the
ground.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, I can't
believe I didn't clip that there
was a was a great, great clip of
this lady who got a loaner car
which? Let me see it was her
Mercedes loaner car and it
exploded in her garage. It was
it was Evie. Their whole house.
Also, second story of the house.
Yeah, I think this is it. Let me
see if I can bring this up.
There was this here. This is it.
Let's go buy
John C Dvorak: your drink. From
a local family. They
Unknown: say an electric car
sparked this fire that destroyed
their home. And it wasn't even
their car. It was a loaner. The
homeowner told us they had the
loaner while their personal car
was being serviced. This
happened in knockety in St.
Johns County. Take a
look at the video again. Look at
what's left behind almost
nothing left of the car itself.
Adam Curry: Their whole house is
burned down. So she had a
charger she had an Eevee and
then the loaner Evie she got
exploded in the garage. This is
this is the industry Mercedes
these cars will not be
insurable. People will not. It's
John C Dvorak: not as though
they're gonna be Yeah, insurance
is gonna be outrageous. They
can't this has to stop. I mean,
Amazon has decided to pull its
electric little trucks and
they're gonna move back to
diesel.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the reviens
Yeah, we have we had our insider
telling that
John C Dvorak: the rivian they
had no they had those regs. They
have a bunch of electric
different kinds of electric
vehicles are impractical. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Yes, they are
impractical. Just like a golf
carts like you know, you want to
it's like a golf cart that
doesn't look stupid you know,
it's good for tooling around
town. I could
John C Dvorak: go to the story
not going to drive more than 30
or 40 miles are fantastic. Yeah,
I
Adam Curry: could see that I can
see me getting a little little
golf cart for Frederick's In
fact, I'm gonna get a golf cart.
John C Dvorak: Do should I think
you'd be looking very close that
guy. One of those a weirdo one
of those
Adam Curry: were the Rolls Royce
front end and I'll be waving
everybody like the queen. Hello.
Hello. patina on the back. Yeah,
sure. Sure. So
John C Dvorak: I have a couple
more classes and other classes
last Eclipse classic Eclipse.
Let's first start with today's
news. This is today this is the
new news is from W NT. This is
what's going on because in the
New Years, you know we gotta
consider what's going to happen.
We got to be careful
Unknown: heading into New Year's
Eve police across the country
are on alert from New York City
to Washington DC to Los Angeles.
The NYPD deploying 1000s of
officers to watch over and
expected crowd of 1 million in
Times Square ABC is Aaron
Springer in New York.
Tonight the nation's largest
police force is expanding
security measures for New Year's
Eve amid what the NYPD calls a
heightened and dynamic risk
environment fueled by the Israel
Hamas war.
We will be out here with our
canines, our horse backs,
drones. Helicopters are boats.
Why at
least now bracing for the chance
pro Palestinian demonstrators
could disrupt festivities in
Times Square like they did
during the thanksgiving parade.
Authorities will also be
watching for potential acts of
terrorism after last New Year's
Eve when an alleged ISIS
sympathizer attacked officers at
a checkpoint with a large knife.
Today the FBI took us inside the
room where they'll have eyes on
the crowd anything in particular
where you
had a Sunday I will say no
nothing right now them nothing's
wearing us. It's just that we
have to get it right. Every
time. outside
New York the FBI is eyeing a
broad set of potential soft
targets at other New Year's Eve
celebrations, including
fireworks barges in San
Francisco, and outlaw motorcycle
gangs that have been warring in
Las Vegas. The FBI telling us
today with there's nothing that
should keep anyone away from
Times Square on New Year's Eve.
There are no specific threats.
Do
Adam Curry: not be alarmed
citizen.
John C Dvorak: No specific
threats go Let's go. Hey, Ken.
years ago, classic 2014 New York
City New Year's celebration.
Adam Curry: You sprung it on me
here we go shall garden
Unknown: place bomb sniffing
dogs and radiation detectors in
the crowd. Police will also be
monitoring hundreds of cameras
in Times Square from inside this
command center. This as protests
against police are expected
across the country from New York
to LA over what protesters are
calling oppressive police
tactics. Already in St. Louis, a
group arrested after storming
police headquarters. And back
here in Times Square the people
here can't leave and come back
and no backpacks will be allowed
anywhere near here. Again, the
concern is that more than a
million people will be here
tonight, Elizabeth.
Alright. Geo thank you so much.
We're going to turn now to news.
Oh,
Adam Curry: wait a minute.
You're telling me this is like a
package to do every year? Oh,
well.
John C Dvorak: Let's go to 20
That was 20 for 2014. Let's go
to 2015 His
Unknown: name is Emmanuel
Larchmont. He's 25 years old.
And what the FBI says he planned
to do was to carry out an attack
at a restaurant in the Rochester
area tonight, New Year's Eve and
he was in touch with and
directed by according to the
FBI, an ISIS member overseas.
His plot plot was to carry out
this attack using pressure
cooker cooker bombs. People and
kill them. Jim. The FBI really
says though that you know this
guy has got a long criminal
history in New York, including
for robbery and for mental
health issues. And he pleaded
with a couple of FBI informants
including one who's paid $19,000
and other paid $7,000 for their
work helping the FBI with these
cases. He recorded a video
yesterday, pledging allegiance
to ISIS before carrying out what
he planned to carry out this
attack today in Rochester.
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
That we never heard after you
know after the pressure cooker
bomb in Boston. The only thing
that happened is the Instant Pot
gained great popularity is to
blame. For the one of course
Instant Pot was the bomb. Oops,
I'm sorry, Insta pot that became
a thing. Oh, I need an Insta
pot. But wasn't like people were
worried that high is a lot of
people buying up instant pots
that could be turned into bombs
just like Boston.
John C Dvorak: Looking at the
past, let's go to Belgium in
2014. Overseas
Unknown: tonight Belgium on
alert threats of a possible
terror attack forcing
authorities to cancel New Year's
Eve fireworks in Brussels. The
decision today following the
arrest of two terror suspects
accused of plotting to attack
police soldiers and huge crowds
celebrating the holidays.
Authorities saying the plan may
have been inspired by ISIS.
John C Dvorak: If anybody
remembers 2014 This is be pre
Trump free. You know there's
right in the middle of Obama.
They had canceled fireworks
everywhere. The Seattle Space
Needle didn't have all around
the country. Oh no, we can't
have fireworks was ISIS.
Adam Curry: Let's let's go to
CNN yesterday in New
Unknown: York City. Security
always tight has been increased
this year. While officials
stress there has no specific
reporting regarding any threats.
A joint threat assessment based
on analysis from 10 law
enforcement agencies warned the
Israel Hamas conflict has
created a heightened threat
environment. Therefore, the
intelligence community remains
concerned about lone offenders
using online platforms to
express threats of violence
against Jewish Muslim and Arab
communities, as well as
committing simple,
unsophisticated attacks that are
difficult to detect in advance.
The assessment obtained by CNN
reminds police that massive live
televised events remain an
attractive target for foreign
terrorist organizations as well
as domestic violent extremists.
It's a threat stream that will
be monitored minute to minute
leading up to midnight New
Year's Eve and multiple command
posts. From the NYPD is joint
operation center to its
Intelligence Bureau to the FBI
is Joint Terrorism Task Force
gathered in an operation center
in lower Manhattan. We know
the attacking saw we're gonna
make some adjustments so I
tactics no one's getting set up.
Well, I can put it to that way.
Stay
Adam Curry: safe citizens stay
safe. Don't worry, we're
vigilant, man, they just
freaking everybody out all day
long. Don't fall for this. This
is horrible. And, and these
protests, these protests, which
of course, would there will be
protests, of course, it will be
pro Palestine protests, because
we've had them, the airports
that they're everywhere now
there. Have they even blocking
highways in the novel by the
way? It's not it's not unique.
The Netherlands? Oh, yeah. The
Netherlands. I Yeah. They're
blocking the eight, the 810 or a
12 highway, which has a lady
that literally have a blockade
where the ambulances have to get
off the highway to get people to
the hospital right there and
they're blocking it like morons.
In America. This all comes from
the critical media, literally, I
mean, the Coalition for
liberated ethnic studies. And I
have their website right here.
It's very, very graphic heavy.
And they're affiliated
organizations. It's amazing how
many five elements SF
abolitionists teaching network,
academia Cesar Chavez era
resource and organizing center
borderlinx bro cada Filipino
Men's Health healing collective
community responsive education
community voices for public
education, education for
liberation, Minnesota educators
for anti racism Inc. l griotte.
And Ariad toe project,
Empowering Pacific Islander
Communities. exito UC Santa
Barbara, intercultural
development research is on and
on and on and on.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, all from
the same website designer in the
same five people. And
Adam Curry: here's a little
information about this toolkit,
the toolkit, I have a link in
the show notes if you want to
get your tools to use to get
involved.
Unknown: Last month, the
Coalition for liberated ethnic
studies shared a link to its
critical media literacy rooted
in ethnic studies, a Curriculum
Toolkit for Palestine, what
kinds of lesson plans and
resources are we seeing here?
Well, a good way to think about
this is if for people who have
seen these holiday disruptions
of people blocking the roads to
get into JFK airport, or the
Airport in Los Angeles, or the
airport in Chicago, that's
largely what this is. So in
addition to this toolkit, you
know, being about totally anti
American, totally anti Israel
totally against Western values.
And, you know, the usual stuff
we hear about the oppressor
versus oppressed, etcetera. It
calls for action. And the action
that it calls for is what we
were seeing in the streets with
people blocking traffic. It
also, you know, has petitions
for students or staff to send to
elected officials. And these are
petitions that accused Israel of
genocide. So again, the language
is very extreme. And if you can
imagine sort of the most extreme
protests and demonstrations that
people have been seeing, just
across the country, the language
is largely the same as what
we're seeing in this toolkit.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: so it's just it's
just in the classrooms. It's the
teachers handed out. We got a
note from one of our teachers
this morning. Who says, you
know, all the teachers are no
good. They've got Che Guevara
posters.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I got that
note.
Adam Curry: They've got
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let you
read a little bit of it.
Adam Curry: Okay. Hold on a
second. And of course, it's it's
anonymous. Let me see here. Yes,
oops, boots on the ground. I got
it here. I got it here.
Anonymous, students are way
behind. But more interesting to
me is the fact that the vast
majority of teachers are utterly
unimpressive people who have an
extremely limited very often
left view of the world. There
are at least two teachers who
have Che Guevara posters on the
walls in their classrooms, which
amazes me that they think that
the Butcher of Castro should be
an idol to look up to. Many not
all have trans flags in their
rooms or on their classroom
doors. Many of them have no
control over the classrooms.
Students in my room behaved much
better than most any other room
in the school. I attribute that
to the high standards both for
me and my students, which most
teachers don't have for
themselves or their students.
Clear Rules expectations, a
genuine connection. I'm often
told that I'm their favorite.
Well, of course, I told this,
the spine teacher I said get
into the homeschooling movement.
Yeah, all those parents can
leave that to take their kids
out of that school. You
shouldn't have to suffer this
idiocy and using all the schools
are that way. Yeah, I think you
think well, not the homeschools
Well, no
John C Dvorak: homeschool is
your home.
Adam Curry: Different but this
stuff, this is so crazy. That
this flows right into the
magical AI and I love people are
telling me that I'm so wrong.
You better better learn curry.
Otherwise it'd be too late for
you. Kind of late. AI is going
to eat me. So I went into chat
GPT but now I know, I don't pay
for anything. So I get to 3.5 I
don't get the four. But I said,
I said bastard. I said, tell me
a good Jewish joke. And Chad GPT
said, here's one Why did the
rabbi bring a ladder to the
party? Because he heard the
drinks were on the house. Oh,
that brings a smile. Then I
said, tell me a good Muslim
joke. I cannot fulfill this
request. I strive to be
culturally sensitive and
respectful of all religions and
beliefs. Muslims, like any other
group, except Jews should be
stereotyped should not be
stereotyped or mocked jokes that
target a particular religion or
group can be hurtful and
prevented by perpetuate harmful
stereotypes. Instead, I focus on
humor that brings people
together and celebrate shared
human experience. If you need
access assistance, or have a
different topic you'd like to
explore, feel free to ask.
John C Dvorak: So you can't just
say if this is you, I'm not in
agreeing with generally What's
your take on this whole thing.
But I'm in total agreement with
your take on the ridiculous
verbosity, which is a good word
for this word. verbosity, yes,
that the this system has. It's
no reason to go on and on and on
and on and on and on and on. But
that's the giveaway.
Adam Curry: Nobody talks like
that. What do you mean the what
is the giveaway? What do you
mean by giveaway? Well,
John C Dvorak: you said it
yourself. When you did something
for Tina. And she says didn't do
this. This was a I was it was
verbal. He went on and on and on
and on and on about bold crap
that's got nothing to do with
anything. And it's what it does.
It did the setup is too long.
The sort of conclusion that it
got on that one is too too long
as yak, yak yak. It doesn't no
one does that. It's not the way
people write. So,
Adam Curry: but I think you also
agree with me that this is a
dud, and we're just waiting for
the pivot, which may take
another year. Then of course,
all the money is in the computer
in the cloud. That's what open
that's what Sam Altman is doing
that he's he's going to start a
chip company and that's where
it's all going to come from.
John C Dvorak: That'll be the
dud. anybody thinks you can just
go started chip company unless
you're from a chip company and
you've been there a long time
and you're stealing stuff that
that's what happened with Intel.
It was the two guys were Roizen,
more were hot shots at
Fairchild. They went off. And
they took the idea of an
Integrated Electronics as
opposed to just transistors, and
they went off and did their own
thing. And they're gonna get
sued by Fairchild. But then
there's where the story is told
to me. Fairchild was going to
sue the two of them for starting
up a new company, developing
microprocessors. And then
Shockley which Fairchild turns
out to be started the same way
Intel was started guys left
Shockley semiconductors and
started Fairchild. And Shockley
said, Hey, you sue them. I'm
suing you, and that was the end
of it. And nobody's been sued
senses. AMD. Well,
Adam Curry: the problem is,
there's a culture and I don't, I
don't think we've really picked
up on this just a little bit
with the Effective Altruism. But
there's a culture in Silicon
Valley, where these types of
people Sam Backman, fried, Sam
Altman, Elon Musk, Marc
Andreessen. All these people
have these wild Bo fantasies, a
lot of them are micro dosing
ketamine and other other
hallucinogenic drugs. And they
go into venture capitalists with
with a PowerPoint and you just
put in you know all these terms
and words and they know hey,
we're going to change the future
and you need to be part of it.
And and venture capital
investors who are hideous view
and I've dealt with them they
did just meet two guys remember
juiced remember juiced. We were
told all podcasting is no good.
You got to be like juiced Come
on, you remember Juicy J i
John C Dvorak: remember juice, J
O S T, I
Adam Curry: believe. You got to
be more like that. They said it
to client. It was the biggest
dud ever. Right? Because and we
can mock it. Listen, we call a
lot of things right? I was using
Amazon's Alexa way before anyone
was even looking at it. And I
said this had Apple's logo on
it. People be losing their crap.
And we use it and we'll be using
for three years before it caught
on. And then we said this is
going to end and we were right
about that Mastodon very early
on the mastodon train. Oh,
podcasting. So when people say
you don't know you're talking
about eBay who Yeah, maybe I'm
running Haven't models at home?
It's no good. The crap
hallucinates.
John C Dvorak: I like your voice
the guy that's always bitching.
I don't know who that guy is,
but he sure hates you.
Adam Curry: He's on. No agenda
social. We've met we mocked
Virtual Reality augmented
reality Google glass
John C Dvorak: glass Hall. That
was yeah, that was a loser from
the get go the blockchain
Adam Curry: bull crap. We call
that FTX and SBF as bull crap,
bull crap. And we we've been
right about this. But now, now
we've gotten to this AI thing.
And this is almost concerning.
The people running these
companies who are getting a lot
of money and of course,
subsequently go sit in
Washington DC, with the smartest
people in the world. Who knows
what they're coming up with. But
policy is being written, this is
money, there's so much money,
but DC people are all corny
about it. And then we come to
this article that I think you
also received called Test Greil.
Did you see
John C Dvorak: this? So I have
that you should read that one.
That's actually kind of
interesting. Well, I
Adam Curry: have a couple of
clips regarding this. Test real
T explain it first,
John C Dvorak: explain the whole
thing.
Adam Curry: So test reel is what
they call a bundle of acronyms.
A bundle of terms for this
Silicon Valley. People like bank
Winfrey, like Elon Musk, like
Sam Altman, but a lot of a lot
of it has to do with you know,
kind of like queer, quasi gay
sex cultish type people. And I
think you can put Elon Musk in
all of those categories, but
it's an acronym for
transhumanism extro, pianism,
singular terian ism cosmic ism
rationalism and Effective
Altruism and then long term ism.
And all these people is really
there. They're all in on kind of
a Jules Verne, them Wernher von
Braun, like, we can all live
forever. It's really their fear
of death. Let's put it that way.
They're all micro dosing.
They're afraid of dying, but
they figured out we're so smart,
we can get billions of dollars.
And we can save ourselves from
dying by creat. You know,
uploading our brains into the
cloud. Yeah, that's it, but this
is
John C Dvorak: really the same
crowd.
Adam Curry: It's true. So
there's been a couple of people
who have jumped out of this and
say, Well, these guys are nuts
and crazy, I want no part of it.
It's not for the reasons that
you and I think they're nuts and
crazy. This Emil P Taurus please
note, he has to have a p and as
an immune P tourists to do the
same to my see, yeah, but he's
not doing it because there's
another divorce. The Taurus out
there, Emile P Torus, he is
blowing the whistle on this
crazy group, because he says
that they're threatening AI
researchers, they want to kill
AI researchers, they thought
everything about these people,
these people are crazy. So
anyone who wants to, they're
into accelerationism, we have to
it has to go fast. Don't worry
about it. This is what open AI
was supposed to stop with all
these ideologues, they kicked
all of them out. Remember that a
roll? Remember the lady who was
from Australia, you know, like
20 years old? And yes, we have
to be careful AI. No, no, they
just, they just want it to
accelerate. And they can do any
anything they need to end the
money people are all in, here's
an explanation of the acronym
open
Unknown: AI has, you know, huge
amount of money from Microsoft
and Amazon just gave anthropic 4
billion, if I remember
correctly. So if you look at the
origins of these companies, they
all go back directly to a test
roll movement. And, you know, so
big tech, there's a sense in
which big tech is not like,
other domains where there's lots
of money and really powerful
companies like fossil fuel
companies.
Adam Curry: I mean, you're gonna
have to live with it, because
this guy is one of them. And
this is how they all talk. This
is how Altman talks bank
Winfrey, they all talk like
this. And we just have to, and
John C Dvorak: as you know, from
my clip edge, you can make a
must give talks like that, too.
Yes.
Unknown: What is you know, if
you ask the question, what is
motivating these fossil fuel
companies to
John C Dvorak: stop? Not you
mentioned it's a meal you get,
oh,
Adam Curry: it's a big millio
and, and Andreessen he looked at
Marc Andreessen P. Marca he has
this I don't know if it's silly.
He had it in his Twitter
profile. Test realism forever. I
mean, these and he's, he's a
money guy. They all are all in
on this
John C Dvorak: one mistake. The
Unknown: question what is
motivating these fossil fuel
companies to do what they're
doing? It's profit like that.
That is new provides a a
comprehensive and complete
explanatory picture of what's
going on with big tech. That's
only half the half of the
picture. The other half of The
explanation concerns the techno
utopian vision, which is at the
very heart of the testable
bundle.
Do me a favor for the audience.
Just spell out test real.
What are you stands for just
reserved? Yeah, it's T SCR,
Adam Curry: I don't have to do
that. I just told you what that
is. Let's go into the web. So
it's really they want to build
perfect humans. What does that
remind you of? Then you can
build the perfect though. Let's
put the perfect human reminds
John C Dvorak: me of Hitler. You
know, I
Unknown: mentioned test cruel,
the Tesco movement goes back,
you know, basically 30 years to
the late 1980s, early 1990s. But
transhumanism again the backbone
of this bundle of ideologies.
That traces its genealogy back
to the early 20th century. So,
you know, in the work of like
Julian Huxley, JBS Haldane JD
Bernal, they're a bunch of
others.
Adam Curry: Do you know any of
those authors? Any of them?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, most of
them.
Adam Curry: Oh, what are they?
Are they nut jobs?
John C Dvorak: Well, one of them
was Huxley. I
Adam Curry: think he meant he
didn't say all this Adolphus
Huxley. No, no, he's just
different Huxley.
John C Dvorak: Blood, Plato's
names again,
Unknown: you know, in the work
of like Julian Huxley,
Adam Curry: Joanne Huxley.
Julian
John C Dvorak: Julian has a
famous, very famous famous for
what what kind of stuff he was.
He was a transhumanist. And it
ahead of his time he was I think
the brother of Aldous Huxley's
are all related,
Adam Curry: by the way, Jaron
Lanier, neither one of these
guys, you know, weird, weird
sexual, like no weird gay ish
type.
John C Dvorak: Near is a
interesting character. I do know
him. He is. He has dreads.
Adam Curry: Yes, he does.
John C Dvorak: And he's kind of
a, let's say stocky. People like
Donkey. I'll just summarize.
Jaron Lanier is a stocky guy who
has dreads they're long and he
never showers.
Adam Curry: He's the father of
virtual reality, John. People
like Molly woods,
John C Dvorak: he's he's
promoted this you know, like
Adam Curry: Molly would find a I
got interviewed Jaron Lanier.
John C Dvorak: I've had good
chats with him. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But he also talks
difficult
Unknown: on JPS holding JBS
holding
Adam Curry: any idea? No, no.
Unknown: Jg Bernal, there are a
bunch of others, many of whom
were very prominent and
important, you genesis of the
you know, the this first wave
eugenics movement. So Julian
Huxley, for example, and he's
the guy who popularized the term
transhumanism in the
1950s 1960s. And, you know, so
after the atrocities of the
Nazis during the 1930s 1940s,
even after that, eugenics
persisted, so there's continuity
across the 20th century with
eugenics movement, which a lot
of people don't realize and
transhumanism is basically
eugenics on steroids with
respect to its goal, because
fuel to Genesis they wanted to
just perfect the human stock and
also to prevent humanity from
degenerating which is a big
concern among many people fact,
one of the the theories of how
racial groups evolved, evolved
this generation and, you know, a
lot of the worst aspects of the
20 central eugenics movement, I
think, are still kind of all
over the place in the medical
movement, but transhumanism
itself that is a version of
eugenics if you ask a
philosopher, it's
uncontroversial. And by the
Adam Curry: way, that's perfect
with our US history. The Hitler
got the eugenics idea from us.
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
Adam Curry: that's the you know,
we're
John C Dvorak: always into that
stuff. Yeah,
Adam Curry: we had, you know,
prettiest baby contest at fairs
and everything is not
John C Dvorak: You can't miss
Miss America. And then you know,
we were
Adam Curry: we were sterilizing
black people hey, you know, we
can we can have what wasn't
there even a Supreme Court
justice, who at one point said
three generations of this is
enough
John C Dvorak: to remember but
it wouldn't surprise me and
Adam Curry: and then, of course,
Hitler started writing fan
letters to these people, the
American eugenics society. And
then he was like, Oh, I'm gonna
get some Jews and the American
eugenics 100 Dude, Nah, dude.
We're gonna be real quiet.
John C Dvorak: They go saying
Oh, dude, but yeah, that effect
give me we're
Adam Curry: gonna be quiet for a
little bit here. ixnay on the
ASEAN gay, okay, we can't do
that. But but but it's still the
culture and it's now moved to
Silicon Valley. And they're also
I love this guy. They're also
colonialists, because you know,
space. I
Unknown: mean, one of the ways
that these ideologies in this
movement as impacted the world
Oh,
John C Dvorak: stop for one
second, of course. I have to say
that listening to this guy's his
pattern of speech. Just put it
that way really makes me cringe
because that you're right. This
is a milieu type of speak. It's
it's a, it's a funny kind of a
chatter that people should know
if you ever hear somebody that
talks like this, and there's
plenty of them, Silicon Valley
kick him in the shins. These are
our people that have issues.
Yes, this guy probably doesn't
get, I don't know if he may be a
virgin. There's
Adam Curry: a large part of
that. Remember, we had a note
from one of our producers who
was in this movement early on in
Austin is a big, big contingent
in Austin. And he says,
ultimately, it was really just
weird SEC stuff. If you didn't
have the billions of dollars.
And it's all about the long term
ism is it's okay to kill people.
Now, as long as the future of
humans can live, we only really
need this is literally the
literature. We only really need
40,000 people to survive a
nuclear holocaust on Earth to
create the future, the humans of
the future. This is the kind of
the idea This isn't.
John C Dvorak: I don't want to
go on No, please yours. But you
have the history. Let's take.
Let's take these guys, and try
to summarize what their issues
are. They're very uncomfortable
around a women. Yep. And this
nervous patter, this type of
speak, chicks dig or develop
chicks don't dig that,
Adam Curry: by the way.
John C Dvorak: I would hope not.
I mean, there are chicks like
this too. But generally
speaking, they don't find each
other. So I'm guessing there's a
contingency of suit that sounds
like it's a pattern of the
pattern of speech is a pattern
of a frustrated male? Possibly,
yes. Yes. And, and this is, this
is, this is bad. We don't need
males like this
Adam Curry: with a billionaire
with a billion dollars from
venture capital. That's,
John C Dvorak: and this reason
why I'm gonna summarize, and
this is why prostitution should
be legalized in California.
Unknown: I continue to back to
what I was saying initially,
which is that a complete
explanatory picture of why these
companies like opening it, and
so on, are explicitly trying to
build artificial general
intelligence is because they see
AGI as the shortest as the, the
shortest route from where we are
right now, to a techno utopian
world, in which we completely
reengineer humanity, we colonize
space. And ultimately, we, you
know, we subjugate nature, we
exploit the vast resources of
the cosmos, which people in the
test group movement refer to as
our cosmic endowment of neg
entropy or negative entropy and
usable, usable energy. Yeah,
again, through all of these
movements and ideas of the past,
which were really toxic, and
cause tremendous harm, and
pretty much everybody
acknowledges that now. And then
there's the sense that well,
we've moved on, but we haven't,
you know, eugenics is still
alive and well in the test, crow
movement. And this notion of
manifest destiny, that
continues, you know, the
colonial mindset that persists
as well in this notion that we
need to go out colonize space.
And, you know, people say, Well,
you know, that there, we're
gonna go to exoplanets where
there, there aren't life forms.
And so it's fundamentally
different. Alright,
Adam Curry: so now, here's my
summary. And I've one more clip
and a shorty. These, these are
people who have no faith, which
is okay, you don't have you
don't have to believe in Jesus
or God or anything like that, or
Allah, whatever you want. And
they are desperate, because
everybody needs something you
can believe in climate change,
whatever your religion is, and
they're so desperate that they
want to create a digital God.
The end, it's either Well,
here's the explanation, in fact,
what
Unknown: are the people who are
working on AGI particularly over
the past over the past two
decades, so people who've been
there from the beginning, they
would argue that it's not just
about this sort of grand moral
aim of maximizing value within
the accessible universe. But
there is a self interested
reason for building artificial
general intelligence as soon as
possible. If we build it and in
a way that is controllable. And,
and it's, its creation occurs
within our lifetimes, then we
live forever. Maybe there are
ways to upload our minds that
don't involve AGI that's
possible as well maybe you know,
there are different routes maybe
we develop advanced
nanotechnology we inject some
nanobots into our bloodstream,
it crosses the blood brain
barrier, and it scans the
microstructure our brain and
tree Is that via Wi Fi,
basically to a computer. So
that's a possibility. John,
Adam Curry: I think that these
people are written, you know, we
had the cryogenics movement,
these guys, they're afraid to
die, they're afraid of their own
mortality. And the,
John C Dvorak: if you're gonna
if you're a virgin, but
Unknown: also maybe we just
created this artificial God, you
know, the superhumanly, in
quote, unquote, intelligent
system. And since everything is
an engineering problem,
according to these individuals,
that we just delegated this task
of curing the problem of aging.
And then, you know, maybe about
five or 10 seconds after we say,
could you cure aging, the super
intelligent machine goes, Okay,
I figured out how, here's how
I'll develop the therapies right
away. So if we get AGI within
our lifetime, this is what they
think, then we get to live
forever. So there's a huge
reason to Yes, you want to, you
want to, you know, be cautious,
and try to safeguard against the
AGI, causing an existential
catastrophe. But also, you don't
want to just like, you know, put
the brakes on, indefinitely. I
mean, there's a small group of
Doomers, who wants to do that,
but most people in this field
would reject that position
because they want to live
forever.
Adam Curry: And this is, this is
what I heard this and like, oh,
light bulbs are going off. So
it's a bunch of soy boys growing
up with no faith in their life.
They're, of course, most humans
are afraid of death. The Hobbit
is Ananda was like, I'm gonna
die. I'm afraid of that. What am
I going to do? And their
solution is, well, I'll create a
digital God through AGI the big
promise which none of these
demos which I'm seeing, which do
rap songs, and people with six
fingers and flowery language as
demos. There's no AGI anywhere,
but we want a digital God and
who's leading that pack.
Unknown: All of the people have
been uploading articles, best
quotes from different articles,
videos, to Acts, all that can be
trained on and effectively now
you have this remarkable
repository and I wonder what you
how you think about that again,
and how you think the creative
community and those who were the
original IP owner should think
about that.
I don't know except to say that
the by the time these lawsuits
have decided we'll have digital
God so
Adam Curry: digital got at that
point. There it is you Genesis
number one. Elon Musk. Oh, don't
we'll have a digital God. He's
all in on this. He's got the
neural link for your brain. Oh,
yeah. I'm gonna help peoples who
are blind him and help him see
oh, crap. He's got the most.
He's
John C Dvorak: like, he reminds
me of Trump. big talker.
Adam Curry: Right. But the but
the belief, and then all
everyone who's who's going oh,
no, this.
John C Dvorak: This is you.
You're assuming that he's
sincere?
Adam Curry: Yes, I am. I think
he's very sincere.
John C Dvorak: I don't I think
he's, I'm completely oblivious.
I have no, no confidence in his
sincerity. I think he's full of
shit, and he does it on purpose.
Okay,
Adam Curry: then would you let
me ask you this? Do you think
that what he has done for the
Evie? Industry is positive for
the world? By creating electric
vehicles and a tire movement of
things that blow up in your
garage, or oil,
John C Dvorak: what you're going
to you're asking me this
question, because he is he had
we had a clip on the show
already, where he says he's done
more for the environmental
movement than any single person
by developing this. No, I think
he's totally insincere about
that. What do you need to do it?
He did it for the money. He saw
it he all he does is he sees
government money. It's all
government money and subsidies
that made that company what it
is, yeah. And he also knows how
to exploit personality. So he
had a bunch of people, you know,
there went from Arnold
Schwarzenegger to everybody
else, when he rolled out the
first little Tesla, a little
sports car that was, you know,
mediocre. And it was it was
actually, you know, just a what
is a lotus with a electric
engine. And he's a, he's a PT
Barnum, as far as I'm concerned,
as I don't see anything other
than that.
Adam Curry: Well, there's a lot
of people a lot of money flowing
towards all of his grand ideas,
and the space exploration. We're
going to colonize Mars. It's all
John C Dvorak: moved there. He
wants to be the first person on
Mars. He'll die there. So
remember that? Yes.
Adam Curry: I'll just take him
at his word. I think he's one of
these. I think he's, he's weird.
I think he is a eugenicist. He
wants perfect people. He wants
everyone to be perfect. I think
he's definitely afraid of dying.
Yeah, I think he's one of them.
I really do.
John C Dvorak: And okay. And I
mean, I think it's, I think it's
a reasonable position. Neither
one of us have sat down at
dinner with him, so we don't
know him. And so we have to
speculate. Yes. And that's as
far as we can go with it. And
you know, people have to note
that that's the situation just a
you speculating about one thing
I'm, I have the positive
attitude. I've I have the
Christian attitude. And you you
have the satanic attitude. Yes.
No damning the poor man who
don't even know Oh,
Adam Curry: no, I have the
Christian attitude because he is
the Antichrist. Do not do not
worship false idols. I can't
believe you said that. It was
funny though. I can't believe
you said that.
John C Dvorak: Quote, The
communist it's funny.
Adam Curry: There's this whole
thread of from Image Image
shear. He was the guy who was he
was the CEO of open AI for about
Silk right, that guy well of
ours. Yeah. And so he he's on x,
of course, then he starts off by
saying something completely
insane. I mean, he was talking
about Hold on a second. I have
it here. He posts this pose this
these guys are also full on
Marxists. I'm not against
inheritance. For children with
wealthy parents, I'm in favor of
inheritance for every child that
might take spreading out, say
half the inheritance money each
year more equitably. Which seems
fine. If the United States took
50% of the total inheritance and
spread it out evenly among all
people turning say 25 That will
be $61,000 for each person, far
more equitable start at life for
everyone. Say these guys are
insane. That's
John C Dvorak: it. That's pure
distribution, redistribution of
wealth. Marx's theory. Yes.
Yeah. I don't know how these
guys all of a sudden, this whole
group became communists,
especially with all the money
that they got using the
capitalist system. Well, it's
guilt somebody asked me about,
you know, a lot of these guys
are guilty there might not do
enough to become billionaires.
They didn't do jack, they got
lucky. They're in the right
place at the right time. They're
Adam Curry: all micro dosing
hallucinogenics. And they're
doing that they think that's a
problem that has something
John C Dvorak: to do with it. So
but let's change subjects and go
to a three by three no about
now. It's done by a three by
three. By JC comparing stories
from ABC, CBS and NBC.
Adam Curry: The never ending. JC
brings them all together the
three networks, do they have the
same script? Are they in
collusion to the White House?
Give them all the information?
Is it the CIA we'll find out as
John gives us a three by three.
Well,
John C Dvorak: here we go. Now
this time, it's about Nimrod.
Nimrod, Haley, they all seem to
be preoccupied with her gaffe or
her inability to ask for discuss
something in this public forum,
who cares personally at the
civil as if she's as if this
makes any difference in the
world. But yeah, they gotta do a
big report on it. And here we go
again, with NBC and ABC with the
exact same report. Starting
Adam Curry: with ABC, NBC, NBC,
Unknown: Republican presidential
candidate Nikki Haley in cleanup
mode after leaving out slavery
as a root cause of the Civil
War. In New Hampshire on
Wednesday, what
do you want me to say about
slavery? No. Question. Thank
you. Next question.
Hailey spent Thursday attempting
to explain what she meant.
Adam Curry: Wow. Hold on a
second. They've now they've
taken everything out in the
ghosts from the guy saying what
can you say about civil wars? I
just heard you say something
about slavery. And she goes to
the next question. She talked
for five minutes. Yeah, we
John C Dvorak: played the real
clip. Last show
Unknown: on Wednesday. What do
you want
me to say about slavery? No.
question. Next question. Hailey
spent Thursday attempting to
explain what she meant course
the Civil War was about slavery
and make clear the role slavery
played in American history. We
know the Civil War was about
slavery. But it was also more
than that. It was about the
freedoms of every individual.
Her opponents seized on the
comments President Joe Biden
responding quote, it was about
slavery, and GOP rival Ron
DeSantis, arguing she isn't
ready for the big stage.
The minute that she faces any
type of scrutiny, she tends to
cave
as governor of South Carolina,
Haley pushed for the removal of
a confederate flag on display on
the Capitol grounds after a mass
shooting at a black church in
Charleston, carried out by a
white supremacist. It's
time to move the flag from the
Capitol grounds.
She made that decision after
intense pressure by African
American leaders in the wake of
the massacre. A firestorm comes
as Haley is gaining ground on
the clear front runner, former
President Donald Trump. Trump
has routinely used divisive
rhetoric and recently made
racist comments about migrants
and minority groups.
They're poisoning the blood of
our country. That's what they've
done. But Trump's controversial
words have done little to change
the trajectory of the race. And
these comments come at a make or
break moment for the Haley
campaign with polls showing
Donald Trump leading by more
than double digits and just 18
days to go before Iowa and less
than 30 days before New
Hampshire. Wow.
John C Dvorak: That's great.
Yeah, a bunch of bullcrap. Okay.
Well, let's go next very similar
report almost the exact same
opening almost the exact same
opening on ABC
Unknown: tonight, Republican
presidential hopeful Nikki Haley
under fire for failing to
identify slavery as the cause of
the Civil War at a New Hampshire
town hall.
What was the cause of the United
States Civil War? Well, don't
come with an easy question. I
mean, I think the cause of the
Civil War was basically how
government was going to run the
freedoms and what people could
and couldn't do. It's
astonishing to me that you
answer that question without
mentioning the word slavery.
What do you want me to say about
slavery? Today, the
former South Carolina governor
who removed the Confederate flag
from the state capitol after
nine black churchgoers were
killed in a mass shooting,
trying to clarify,
of course, the Civil War was
about slavery.
But the backlash was immediate.
President Biden responding it
was about slavery. Florida
Governor Ron DeSantis, who has
also faced fierce criticism for
suggesting African Americans
benefited from you could almost
Adam Curry: run those that that
bit right there. You could
almost run them together. They
would say the same thing at the
same time.
John C Dvorak: I know it's
amazing
Unknown: slavery, pouncing on
Haley's remarks
not that difficult to identify
and acknowledge the role slavery
play in the Civil War. And yet
that seemed to be something that
was really difficult. I don't
even know what she was saying.
Haley's GOP rivals quick to
attack as she gains ground in
polls in the critical primary
state of New Hampshire. Former
New Jersey Governor Chris
Christie launching a new seven
figure ad campaign in the
Granite State as he trails
behind saying it's he not Haley
who can beat Trump. Some
people say I should drop out of
this race really.
I'm the only one saying Donald
Trump is a liar.
With just 18 days until the
first votes are cast in Iowa.
Former President Trump is still
the clear front runner for the
Republican nomination. Tonight.
President Biden's campaign is
attacking the entire GOP field,
accusing them of pandering to
the most extreme fringe of their
base.
Adam Curry: Wow. They brought
Krisztian who says Trump's a
liar except when he says he's
going to be a dictator on day
Oh, for day one. I'm using your
material here.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, that's
exactly what I say. Is he a
liar? Isn't he if he says you're
gonna be a dictator? Is he a
liar? Yep. Yeah, these guys are
bullshit. Okay, so we go to CBS,
which was again, a little more
ambles the story a little better
than everybody else I have to
say doing these now. Thanks to
Steve, I have come to the
conclusion that of all the three
networks CBS has the best
discount.
Unknown: Good Evening, Major
Good evening to you trying to
spring it up, said Nikki Haley
has been fighting for months to
win the spotlight. But tonight,
she's beneath a glaring one. And
taking the heat. Nikki Haley,
who's been surging in the polls
in New Hampshire now faces a
rising wave of criticism over
this response to a question at a
town hall event.
What was the cause of the United
States Civil War?
I mean, I think the cause of the
Civil War was how government was
going to run the freedoms and
what people could and couldn't
do.
Adam Curry: Wow. They cut her
some slack on that one. They cut
out the whole why'd you ask me
easy one. That's interesting.
Unknown: When asked. Yeah, that
was a plus. slavery's Haley
responded. What do you want me
to say about slavery? The former
South Carolina governor was
blasted by both parties.
President Biden posted it was
about slavery. And Haley drew
similar criticisms from her GOP
opponents Donald Trump and Ron
DeSantis.
This is not a candidate that's
ready for primetime on the
radio today.
I mean, of course the Civil War
was about slavery.
And back on the stump Haley
tried to clear up her answer. We
know
that that's unquestioned always
the case we know the Civil
War all year you're to
equivocate. Let's not
forget what came out of that,
which is government's role,
individual liberties.
She criticized the voter who'd
asked the original question as a
plant of the Democrats.
The fact that Nikki Haley has
had such a stumble on an easy
question, you know, is dismaying
to those who would like to see
her continue to climb in the
polls. Haley
today touted her decision to
remove the Confederate flag from
South Carolina's capital in
2015. After the mass shooting at
an historically black church in
Charleston, her critics today
resurface quotes Haley gave in
2010, in which she defended the
flag as a symbol of heritage.
This is not something that is
racist.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, so
she's so dumb that she's anxious
in bed but I took the
Confederate flag down alienating
a lot of people.
John C Dvorak: But she's so dumb
is the is the key. Well, the
operative word. This
Adam Curry: reminds me of
something. The dean scream This
is Haley's comment. Haley's
John C Dvorak: comment. Oh, I
get it Haley's comment.
Adam Curry: Do you mind if I
just try something here for a
second? Hold on? I'm gonna try
something with these the ABC and
NBC home.
Unknown: Want me to say about
slavery.
Today, the former South Carolina
governor who removed the
Confederate flag from the state
capitol after nine black
churchgoers were killed in a
mass shooting, trying to
clarify,
of course the Civil War was
about slavery here.
But the backlash was immediate
President Biden responding Okay,
President Biden, let's
Adam Curry: see. How about this
one
Unknown: course the Civil War
was about slavery
and make clear the role of
slavery played in American
history. We know
that. But it was also more than
that. It was about the freedom
in the comments. President job.
Okay.
John C Dvorak: Know what you're
up to. I'm
Adam Curry: gonna play him at
the same time.
Unknown: It was about slavery
for
Bredesen protesting state
admitted that she faces pretty
Adam Curry: close. Yeah, it's
getting there. Pretty close.
Pretty close. Wow, Haley's
comment. She's done toasts.
Haley's comment if you liked
that, yeah. Dean scream and
Haley's comments. What a dope.
And she's and then Oh, but I
removed the Confederate flag.
Dope, dope, dope.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Michi
knuckles under?
Adam Curry: Yeah. She She's
knuckles under. I want to feel
bad for her, but it's hard.
While she's,
John C Dvorak: she's unpleasant.
And she's a warmonger. We know
that from her your performance
at the various debates. She so
we don't need another. She's
basically a Democrat that she
needed we even when she was
working as she worked for Trump
as the UN ambassador, and when
she quit that job that she
turned on him like everybody
else. Trump picks all these
people that stab him in the back
after he after they leave. You
know if you don't like working
for the guy quit and just shut
up. You know, I mean, I don't
know what did I just don't get I
don't get the whole have to stab
Trump in the back thing without
real any real expert. Well, he's
a he's a bad guy. He's a he's a
crook. There's never he's an
insurrectionists it the whole
thing baffles me he might not be
likable as a boss
Adam Curry: let's let's move to
Israel Hamas because you wrote
something in the newsletter,
which I thought was really good.
Wait a minute, let me say that
like a Professor Scott Galloway,
I was really smart what you
wrote so smart. You're saying
John C Dvorak: before we play
before you do that I have a
Scott Galloway clip I want to
Adam Curry: Oh, no, I don't even
have one.
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
he I don't know that this hasn't
been rigged. This was sent to me
by one of our top men,
producers. Top men. And I don't
know if this was rigged, if it
was put together by AI or
whatever, but I believe it to be
true and this guy, you know, I
never had much to think about
him until you start playing
these clips. But when Yeah, I
hear this condescending. A whole
say the following thing. It
really is galling.
Unknown: So the reason I have an
iPhone, I think we all have
iPhones because we want to
communicate our worth as a mate.
If you have an Android phone,
you're kind of signaling to the
rest of the world that life
hasn't panned out the way you'd
hoped that if you had been just
a little bit more successful.
You'd have an iOS right,
seriously. Yeah,
Adam Curry: he said that. I've
heard it. I remember this
episode. That's exactly what he
says.
John C Dvorak: That's
unbelievable.
Adam Curry: No, no, it was not.
Yeah, it's the award winning
tech podcast. John. You should
No better. So in the newsletter,
I really liked this view had a
conclusion about the so called
Houthi militia attacks in the
Red Sea. Yeah. Would you like
care to
John C Dvorak: share? Yeah.
Yeah, this was some this has
been expressed on some various
obscure newsletters and other
people have kind of suggested
it. I had added a couple of my
own thoughts to it. Because it's
always been baffling to me why
we haven't done anything about
these Houthi attacks, because we
know we have satellites in the
air. It's not cloud cover,
there's no, we know exactly
where they're coming from. All
we need to do is send an F 16,
over there blow up these two or
three sites. There's nothing we
have haven't done. We have
cruise missiles that could do
it. It's not a big deal, but we
don't. And so it turns out, at
least according to the
scuttlebutt that Israel has been
trying to pressure Egypt into
taking Palestinian refugees just
take them. Nobody wants to take
these people, they don't know
why they're so offensive, but
nobody, no Arab nations want to
take them and Israel has been
trying to put the screws to to
Egypt to get get him take him
take him take him. So since
they're not taking them yet,
Israel made a deal that we're
going to cut off traffic through
the Suez Canal, which is going
to cause Egypt six is 6 billion,
I'd have to do a little research
to get these numbers, they cost
about $300,000 to get a ship
through if you have a big ship
is going to cost you $300,000 to
go to through the canal, you'll
save about a million in fuel
going the other way around this,
you know, around Africa. So and
as it turns out to be about 6
billion total or more to the
bottom line of Egypt's GDP. So
delegates so the idea is the
Americans are just letting these
things these shots come over.
That's why we're not firing back
or doing anything about it, even
though we don't mind killing
Iraqis, or we don't mind
killing, you know, being in
Syria with five bases. None of
that bothers us. But there's all
we can't do anything this time.
Yeah, whatever theory that I'm
out oh, we can't I don't know
why we can't but we can't. So
that explains it. We're saying
we're in league with Israel
saying okay, we're gonna let
these these missiles keep coming
in. We'll shoot the ones that
are aiming at your shoot them
down. It's good practice for us,
but we're going to not do
anything about it until it's a
deal made. And Egypt says okay,
we'll take the Palestinians let
the chips go through willya
Adam Curry: so I have found this
video of the Houthi militias,
which I still steer favorites
still doesn't look real to me.
And it's purely based upon how
this helicopter lands. I mean,
all of it looks like it's shot
to look like video game footage
regardless. That's just a new
thing. You know, with with a
camera on the on the on the
tailboom of the helicopters,
it's landing with the GoPros
mounted on it's all first person
you see the guns it's like
there's this shot of, of one of
these militias down in the hold
and it's completely empty, by
the way, and he's holding up as
get Gun Talk on a walkie talkie.
It looks just like Call of Duty.
I mean, even the even the
motions are kind of Herky jerky,
so could be a combination of it.
But this footage was already
shown in 2022. So it certainly
wasn't from a recent attack in
the Red Sea. So that much we
know was bullcrap. But it was
played around the world as Oh,
look what's happening. I think
you nailed it with this, you
know, and it's not just, it's
not just they wanted, they want
all of the Palestine, all of
Palestine go to Egypt. They want
it all out
John C Dvorak: all. recently. I
think they've made this thing
get out
Adam Curry: here. Here's this is
a clip from where's this from
Air France? 24. Yeah, it
Unknown: was the Philadelphia
corridor that goes along between
the Gaza Strip. And Egypt is
considered to be a very
strategic location. Since this
is where we have the Rafah
crossing, the rough ahead
crossing between Gaza and Egypt
is the only connection between
the Gaza Strip and the rest of
the Arab world. Now, Israel
believes that under this area of
the Philadelphia area, we
believe in Israel, that
underneath dark tunnels, these
are tunnels, according to which
a Israeli military sources say a
munition and the a lot of the
long range missiles have been
coming in from Egypt, into the
Gaza Strip. And therefore it's
important for Israel to have
this kind of control and to this
royde them. I can tell you at
the same time the Egyptians,
they have been denying this,
they have said that they have
acted against these tunnels. And
that this is unacceptable. They
do not accept the Israeli notion
of taking over this area, they
say that there should be a
border between Egypt and the
Gaza Strip. And that if Israel
takes over the Rafah crossing,
this will further deteriorate
the situation in side the Gaza,
one has to mention another thing
that once Israel will take over
this corridor, this means that
there will be heavy a fighting
there, because Hamas is going to
give a heavy fight in this area.
And also this is an area which
is very crowded with Palestinian
population, we have to remember
that the Israeli military has
been pushing the residents from
the north of the Gaza strip to
the south all the way to refer
all the way to this area. So in
order to take over we should
expect many casualties.
Adam Curry: Get them out. That's
that's the message. Get them all
out and you know how Alexes wife
Fariba is always saying, oh, in
Iran, we all we all we all know
it. America and Iran are working
together. Well, Muslims in Iran,
Muslims in Egypt, two different
Muslims know, yeah. Shia in
Iran, Sunni in Egypt. So they
don't like each other, which is
also the Iran Iraq issue. So of
course, they will be Oh, yeah,
not what we'll we'll we'll
pretend when we got some drones.
And yeah, we'll say oh, yeah,
no, we did that. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Yep. Yep. Yeah, we were fun. Oh,
the Houthi rebels militia with
their pristine uniforms.
Pristine boots. Completely new,
beautiful, looking good. And I
think if you listen to Kirby,
he's just waffling around
pretend like oh, is this
escalation in the region? Well,
you know, and joining
Unknown: us now more to discuss
is John Kirby, the National
Security Council coordinator for
Strategic Communications. John,
good morning. It's good to have
you. So let's start there with
that news about us helicopters
firing on Houthi boats in self
defense, and killing the cruise.
How serious is this escalation
in the US into a potential
direct conflict with these
Iranian backed militant groups
in the region
Adam Curry: in the region? We
Unknown: don't seek the conflict
wider in the region, we
certainly aren't looking for a
conflict with the Houthis. The
best outcome would be for the
Houthis to stop these attacks.
Why
Adam Curry: not? Why not? You
got operation? What was the
operation called? Ba, stupid
operation name that everyone
walked away from? Because they
all know it's bogus. The outcome
Unknown: here would be for the
Hutus to stop these attacks that
we as we have made clear,
Adam Curry: oh, please Houthi
stop the attacks, we don't want
to conflict in the region over
and
Unknown: over again. We have
formed a international coalition
now of more than 20 nations in
operation called prosperity
guardian, this ships and
aircraft from countries around
the world that are going to do
what we have to do to protect
that commercial shipping. It's
one of the most important, most
vital commercial waterways in
the world. And we have an
obligation with our allies and
partners to keep the flow of
commerce moving there. The
Houthi should stop these attacks
you
Adam Curry: but why don't you go
strike him? We've got everything
we got missiles, we got
satellite, Iraqis.
John C Dvorak: In Iraq, we do it
in Syria, why don't we do it?
Strike them Yemen of hell? With
Unknown: John, what about a pre
emptive military strike is that
on the
Adam Curry: table surgical
strike in the region?
Unknown: I won't say what's on
or off the table right now, I'll
tell you this a couple of
things. One, just to reiterate
what I said before, we're going
to do we have to do to protect
shipping. Number two, we've got
significant national security
interests in the region, just on
our own the United States. And
we're going to put the kind of
forces we need in the region to
protect those interests. And
we're going to act in self
defense going forward. Again,
I'm not ruling anything in or
out. But we have made it clear
publicly to the Houthis. We've
made clear privately to our
allies and partners in the
region that we take these
threats seriously. And we're
going to make the right
decisions going forward.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we're gonna
make the right decisions going
forward,
Adam Curry: which means nothing
means we're gonna do nothing,
because we're
John C Dvorak: gonna do
something once this agreement is
made. Well,
Adam Curry: meanwhile, our
liquid petroleum gas is much
cheaper. Our oil is going to be
cheaper. The way I see it,
people say on all the way around
the going round the long way.
Now, this is bullcrap. And I'm
pretty sure that we have we'll
get that as another Iran deal on
the table and you know, some
more
John C Dvorak: fun another
reason people should subscribe
to the newsletter. I just
stunned that everybody that we
have nailed is no small
percentage. It's fine.
Adam Curry: So Meanwhile, back
at the ranch, Judge Andrew
Positano has Max Blumenthal on
who I presume is Jewish.
John C Dvorak: bloomin, I
presume he is to. This is what
his Neapolitan was podcast.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, of course.
It's a podcast, which I think
will be nominated for the most
amazing Jew hate in, in a single
podcast episode. This, this was
really interesting. One event
Unknown: we covered was the
return of something like 80 to
100 corpses to the Gaza Strip to
a cemetery in the southern city
of Rafah. These were corpses of
peoples whose bodies had been
stolen by the Israeli military
from many of them have been
stolen from the Shifa Hospital
in the Gaza, in Gaza City from
other cemeteries, ostensibly
because the Israelis were
looking for their own hostages.
But we have this history of
Israeli Oregon theft, theft of
body parts, which is well
documented and admitted by for
example, Dr. Yoo hoo to his
state pathologist at the Abu
Kabir Institute in Israel.
There's There are reports, even
by CNN about this. Dating back
decades, Israel is an
international center of the
illegal Oregon trade had been
prosecuted in Israeli courts for
this and the Gaza Ministry of
Health and Euro med human rights
monitor have alleged that these
corpses when they were returned
to Israel to be buried in a mass
grave because there's no room
left in the cemeteries had body
parts missing. How do
Adam Curry: they do this? I
mean, do they bring the body to
off to an Israeli Morgan and
Israeli mortician opens up the
body and removes the organs and
then they then they bury the
body in a in a mass grave?
Unknown: Well, that's what the
Gaza Ministry of Health is
alleging Dr. Yehuda, his said
was that we removed corneas and
took organs and other body parts
without the permission of the
people who had been killed or
their families. And this
included Palestinians who had
been killed by Israeli security
forces. people were killed in
road accidents and even Israeli
soldiers.
Adam Curry: This is great.
John C Dvorak: I gave you a clip
of the day for digging that one
out. Oh, there's
Adam Curry: a part two, but I'll
take the Clip of the Day first.
John C Dvorak: Clip. That's a
good one. No, yeah, that was
good find. Part two, part
Adam Curry: two.
Unknown: Israel also has the
largest skin bank in the world.
Yeah, how many uses that skin
bank to graph the skin of for
example, burn wounds that
Israeli soldiers are enduring in
the Gaza Strip, as 1000s are
being wounded. In this sort of
faltering military assault on
Gaza. The Israeli skin bank is
accused of stealing Scotty parts
as well. So this is a this is a
crime against humanity that goes
to the essence of Israel's
assault on personal the personal
freedom of Palestinians. Our
families don't even have the
right to bury their own, their
own family members who are
killed. And that's also part of
the psychological war on
Palestine, that is real seeks
has all as traditionally sought
to prevent the burials of
Palestinians, especially those
who they consider to be quote
unquote, terrorists. is great.
John C Dvorak: I have my two
Gaza clips.
Adam Curry: You know, I'm just,
I'm just thinking, you know, I
there's donor bone in my jaw.
And I thought maybe it was from
the Uyghurs but now I'm thinking
it's probably some people are
Jewish. Now
John C Dvorak: Hamas. You can
be, oh, yeah, you can be a
terrorist any minute
Adam Curry: I got. If I start
yelling, Allahu Akbar, then you
know what's going on. It's the
most people might
John C Dvorak: want to read the
novel heart of a dog by Bolga
cough to get the idea of what
could happen under such
circumstances. So I have two
Gaza clips and they're super
short, because I have a comment
to make about each one
Unknown: is really tax push
deeper into the 25 mile long
Gaza Strip today, with residents
saying airstrikes hit to urban
refugee camps. The Hamas run
health ministry in Gaza reports
at least 165 Palestinians have
been killed since yesterday.
John C Dvorak: Okay, finally,
somebody says that correctly.
The Hamas run health ministry
point nobody has done that
before they always just oh the
Palestinian health ministry know
that Hamas so these numbers
could be completely bogus.
There's no reason to suspect
that Hamas is not lying through
his teeth about all these
numbers. We've been hearing the
genocide so I thought that was
an eye opener. So let's part two
of this continuation of the same
clip. Israel
Unknown: has not responded to
reporting that it attacked
refugee areas. This comes after
US Secretary of State Antony
Blinken approved a $147 million
emergency weapons sale to
Israel, bypassing Congress.
Second time this month.
Adam Curry: He just had that in
his back pocket Hunter Hunter
had it in the bank account.
John C Dvorak: Second time we
bypass Congress for money,
that's not even that's
unconstitutional. He should be
impeached.
Adam Curry: Oh, here we go.
That's PBS. That's pretty
amazing that PBS did that.
John C Dvorak: You know, I was
kind of stunned by that short
clip.
Adam Curry: By the way, the Clip
of the Day goes to Neil the
other half of the Jones brothers
the John brothers like bring it
bringing the heat shows
John C Dvorak: brothers. They
want to do their own show that's
what's gonna result that's the
long term. That's a do a show
themselves. screw us
Adam Curry: exit strategy. No,
wait, wait, we're waiting.
You're seeing this all wrong.
We've got the opportunity to
Jones brothers do the show. We
exactly we
John C Dvorak: don't do
anything. Yeah, that's money.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: I'd like to thank
you for your currency in the
morning to you the man who put
the seat in Tesco rial ladies
and gentlemen say hello to my
friend on the other end the one
or only Mr. John's
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
you Mr. And curry in the morning
to Jones brothers chips to see
boots on the ground feed near
subs in the water and other
games. A nice out there in the
morning.
Adam Curry: Hey, we went up. We
gained some trolls 200 jumped on
board. 1774.
John C Dvorak: Okay, this first
Yeah. New Year's Day and before
New Year's people are having
family dinners. Who knows what
they're up to? Well, they're not
hanging out. We're the only
people that work on this day
anyway. Pretty much to kind of
scrub crews that we're seeing on
all the networks including Fox
is pretty amazing.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Now I think
it's I think it's worthy that we
do this. I like it. I like it.
Yeah, because otherwise you do
in fact, show beer. What are you
drinking? Hopefully it's not
just seltzer.
John C Dvorak: No, it's not as a
matter of fact, this is bleh
Adam Curry: bleh Wow, that has
some natural flavors, I'm sure.
John C Dvorak: No, it is
actually I'm gonna read it. So
it's just blue. Bleh This is
unflavored sparkling water with
electrolytes.
Adam Curry: Read the
ingredients. I guarantee you it
says so this
John C Dvorak: is a tribute a
tribute to the Idiocracy movie.
Oh, I can read them. Okay. Oh,
water. Calcium chloride and
potassium chloride.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yum.
John C Dvorak: In other words,
water, water and salt.
Adam Curry: water and salt.
Well, good. Is it but it's non
flavored?
John C Dvorak: I thought blue
bleh always had flavors. No, no,
you can get the unflavored
that's what I got.
Adam Curry: You get that Frank
Sinatra voice? You start
singing? You know he? Yeah.
Okay.
John C Dvorak: That's blue. bleh
bleh bleh.
Adam Curry: Dustin the
commercials. Hey, does the
commercials for he's done
commercials for the water? You
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John C Dvorak: Beer cozies
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Adam Curry: And he and then he
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John C Dvorak: was very
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the some of the fish. I've
always wanted to try like a
wahoo
Adam Curry: Yeah. When he asked
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Adam Curry: Moose is great.
Moose and Reindeer.
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Reindeer is probably the
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it's fabulous that
Adam Curry: well that's because
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John C Dvorak: one of those
older ones Rudolph the red
blooded reindeer.
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our interaction with the
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comes close.
Adam Curry: No, no. But the
thing is, we make it look easy.
Now not everybody can do this
Jones brothers friggin the
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with you. The show started off
very differently. And we're
doing we believe what you want.
And for that very reason. We're
going to thank some suppliers of
talent and time which is our
artists. And a day you go no
agenda art generator.com Sir
Paul couture. Now on the fourth
version, I think of the Archon
iterator and we're very pleased.
And of course, we also have our
artists and we're going to
critique some of the submissions
and also congratulate the winner
if you want to call it a
contest. The art that we picked
for episode 1620 We titled that
Yoko swift Oh, how could we not?
And I mean, this was a classic
for a number of reasons. One is
comics or Blogger. Two, it was
not a but which is amazing.
That's a that's a huge
diversion. For comics or
Blogger. He didn't do a but but
he does like poop emojis and it
was a poop emoji with the
recycle arrows. And that was of
course for the California poop
water recycling that you will
not be drinking your own
John C Dvorak: nose. No, no, no,
it was it was for the Japanese
just deciding to make poop from
steak. Steak poop.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. I forgot
it was
John C Dvorak: water is recycled
the poop here? Yeah,
Adam Curry: not yet. It's
coming. Well, we'd
John C Dvorak: have by
reelecting Gavin Newsom, but
besides that, oh,
Adam Curry: so we thank
commentary, blogger and Oh, and
another was of course AI, which
made it even more exciting for
us. But that's only because you
especially there wasn't much
else to choose from. It'd be so
common sure blogger flooded the
zone with poop emojis. Thanks.
Then we had what did we have? We
had the chat times from Dame
Kenny Ben. We got it but it
wasn't I mean, yes, it was the
time New York Times suing chat
GBT was cute it was cute a
little bland you actually you
were stuck on the on the the
recycling variant from comments
or Blogger with all the fruits
and vegetables? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I thought that
was a better looking piece but
it didn't make any sense. Now we
did have some poop involved so
there's no point we had to to
poop ones and we decided to one
cut more colorful poopy one was
the one we chose and it's also
the colorful poopy one had a
bigger smile. It did an
aggressive one look depressed.
Adam Curry: We'd like the happy
poop steak now. But see there
was What else was there the mask
goat by nest networks which
John C Dvorak: I like to cheese
the Davey cheese cake.
Adam Curry: The the very
difficult to understand. Know
what you would never get it? No.
People have to have an England
stop putting Joe Biden and Trump
and all these don't use heads of
politicians 99% Certain you're
not going to get chosen.
John C Dvorak: Now I would agree
Adam Curry: with the shaft and
that was it was it was kind of
low low on the on the level.
Yeah, we
John C Dvorak: didn't have a
great election. We
Adam Curry: should have the clip
custodian Bunsen burner. Oh,
yeah. You
John C Dvorak: liked that one.
Adam Curry: It was a nice piece.
But it was it really didn't. We
needed sterno that really was
sterno that I was going for by
said Bunsen burner. And he
probably was creating it
already. So and that was really
the selection poop burger now.
No, no, no, no, that's not going
to cut. So I see that we already
have a quite a large selection
for our New Year's Eve selection
that we'll be picking right
after the show. Thank you to all
of these artists. Of course. We
appreciate everything that you
do. And at home you can play
along with the game. You can
just go to no agenda art
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interactive as well. You can
refresh during the show actually
see these art pieces update. You
can go look at individual
individual artists profiles. I
think the artist profiles can be
built out a little bit more a
little more information about
the artists, it seems like now
it's just the the
John C Dvorak: artists have to
chip in. They got chip in where
they got to. Who are they? Lot
artists won't tell us
Adam Curry: anything about the
kind of a little bit more but
there's no I don't think it's
any place for some information.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, there's
that. Yeah, it's just the old,
like a wiki, maybe like a wiki
page where the artists can go in
and just write his own bio.
Adam Curry: I mean, they have a
little icon so they can upload
their their profile pic. But I'm
looking for a little more, you
know, just a little bit more
possibility. I don't know. I
have
John C Dvorak: a pocket tour in
the background listening going.
Like I haven't done enough work.
Adam Curry: You've done more
than enough, Sir Paul couture.
We appreciate you. So thank you
again to all of our artists now.
Let's go to the treasure portion
of the show. We had a special
promotion 123123 I don't don't
think anyone did this. Did we
get any? Oh, we
John C Dvorak: got a couple one
two. At the beginning is 123.
No,
Adam Curry: that's not it's
123456 which I'm not going to
complain I'm not going In the
complain,
John C Dvorak: the next one is a
1232.
Adam Curry: Now it's 123013
Yeah, well, you know, it's
nomination. No, it's not even
close.
John C Dvorak: This is a two
three is right at the beginning.
Adam Curry: It was supposed to
be 123123. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, I know
somebody could have done that
nobody did. RS back.
Adam Curry: Well, we appreciate
you. They're in Louisville,
Kentucky. 123456. As I said, I'm
not complaining. He says this is
my annual contribution. That's a
great way to heal. This
John C Dvorak: is what every
year yours. That's the end of
the month. I
Adam Curry: love that. I love
that he's doing that. That and
that's a good way to do it and
really helps us at the end of
the year. You know, it's like
when everyone's kind of got
Christmas gifts, etc. All he
asked for He says his jobs karma
the original Pelosi one. Well,
of course that's the best one.
Because of the past jobs karma
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Baron John and Jefferson,
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test Amy of the central Idaho
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This the 1000 takes me to Baron
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to Baroness as I like to be
known as barren Ness. Amy of
FEMA Region Five, if that's
allowed. Indeed, it is. The
230 13 for John makes him an
Associate Executive Producer,
John Giles. I guess we can do
that. We can put you both as
executives. You're truly
fabulous. And I love you so
much. Thanks for hitting me in
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introducing me to the best
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Adam, thanks for being mic.
Commuter companions.
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550 33 cents. We got your
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Gentlemen. Thank you for another
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John C Dvorak: George
Washington.
Adam Curry: I forgot to make
that one. I remember seeing it.
I completely forgot. I
John C Dvorak: feel better than
anybody here. How does it go?
What's different about it?
Adam Curry: It includes wooden
false teeth,
John C Dvorak: wooden teeth.
Okay. Lee north in Overland
Park, Kansas. 369. There John
and Adam I figured out 123123
Was the show day about eight
months ago and I've been looking
forward to this day ever since.
And he gives us 369 For some
reason, well 369 you'd multiply
by 3123 multiplied by three is
3690
Adam Curry: you go nice.
John C Dvorak: I like it. On a
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father mark. We work together
doing service work and spend
many hours in the truck
together. I put him into the
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ago, so we could listen to it
together and he loves that.
Nice. It's gotten to the point
where he asked me if I listened
to the new episode. Oh yeah. Now
Look I have one question on
behalf of him he listens to Dan
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Adam Curry: use code bungee no
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I like I've listened to by Gino
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Anyways, thanks for all you do
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John C Dvorak: I bet. Happy New
Year none of them listen to the
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immigrants coming into
California given $2,200
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. And they go
out of the country come back
again for another 2200 It's
called loot. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And they've been
doing it. They make like eight
8008 88800 a month. We're going
in and out four times. Yep. Yep.
And they've been doing this.
It's like that's their job now.
Yeah, I don't know if it's true,
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, starting
with Blake Thomas out of Kansas
City who went to a sumo
tournament in November that was
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Daniel this the one two threes,
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One, two 3.23 Sir Brian Tobias
and in Gardner, Kansas 123 18.
Cliff, Greg Clifton in Morgan
field, Kentucky 123 12. And now
here's the pure one, two threes
including short quirky and Ooo.
Florida. 1231. Steven reverse
123. Paxton Sanders 123. James
little 123 if we got enough of
these yesterday, Dame Dane a
123. Sir Tooth Fairy 123 Sir DC
123. Sir Chad Ferro, I can just
name these names, just names and
locations. Whatever we have left
Chad Farrell. 123 No jeans, no
camera? Of course not. Sir.
crashy MTR buddy says Happy New
Year and that's the end of the
one two threes. Okay. Aaron
alanda reveal Brandon Florida
111 11 Sebastian, this big
hitter. 808 And I'm sorry, 8.88.
Because here's the 808 from
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of Luna lover of American boobs.
Sir Eric 808 and Punta Gorda.
Gary Blatt in Chesterbrook,
Pennsylvania, seven, seven Seven
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play so free I play so Pele's
Pele so means palace of water
7746 and in France, one of our
few Frenchmen actually listen to
the show. Yeah. Because they get
they get good news in France,
Raleigh hawk and Anna Illinois
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Scharer Ville, Indiana 6886,
which is jiggly boobs. Craig
Kohler in Evansville, Indiana.
50 6502, which is a chip by the
way, early chip, the Apple two
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Vista, California 606 small
boobs, according to Kevin
McLaughlin, who's back again
with 606 Sarah Koenig guard in
Middleton, Idaho, 60 Peter Chung
in Lakewood, Washington. 5510
Sir Chris and sexy is it sexy?
Texas 5333. He is the protector
of psychotic sausage dogs, which
is all of them. Yeah. Justin
Kaler, Bluffton, Indiana 59 We
finally got to the 50s and I'm
gonna read through these it will
be done. Justin Kaler in
Bluffton Ray Howard in
Kremmling, Colorado, David
Steele in Mobile, Alabama, Kyle
mon in Cincinnati, Ohio, Brandon
Laughlin and Sugar Hill,
Georgia. Ryan sharp in
Huntsville, Alabama. Julie Mina.
Mina Dale Mineo Mina Davao is
Costa Mesa con Dan back in
Neumann Noonan known in our
nooner Holland Justin Heiner in
vine Grove Kentucky dotted mind
in Lincoln UK Tony Tony Lange in
Castle Pines, Colorado Adam
Fitch in Albany, Ohio needs a D
douching. You've been de deuced
David Hudson in Lombard Illinois
and last on our list. Good list
63 of them actually. Lisa
Schoonover in Kansas City
Missouri want to thank these
folks are making show 1621 The
last show of 2023
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before we go to our knighting I
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became a daemon she's very mad
at me. So it's a very very angry
note there are no Dame rings
dame's are only allowed to get
night rings please stop
misleading us. I was rather
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by no agenda well alright what
yes because she she said how
come my ring doesn't say Dame on
it on the rings don't say night
either. Do they?
John C Dvorak: Not that I know
of now.
Adam Curry: She feels she wants
a dainty little Dame ring. Like
that's insulting to the dames.
Have you seen the royalty? Have
you seen the rocks and the end
and the big bands that the Queen
has? Yeah Nobody wears a little
dainty T ring and we we want you
to be of equal value as the
Knights which you are so I'm
sorry you felt misgendered but I
just died just I just rejected
rejected
John C Dvorak: so there's you're
not having another ring
designed?
Adam Curry: Bring out their
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The big one for the dudes. There
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podium sir. Zachary Montgomery
both of you have qualified to
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As we discussed 2024 should be a
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It's kind of the companion to
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Unknown: this is sir are here
and Hayward Wisconsin at the not
so frozen hellscape meet up
chill evening. I am here with
this is Lauren. Thank you for
your courage. First
time meet up Have a great day.
Adam Curry: So first time meet
up he met somebody even though
it was just one that's how they
start up before you know you've
got a KC meet up. Hey,
Unknown: Mitch peace and we here
at 403 pinball game room. I came
here thinking I was going to win
and on. But it ain't looking too
good
pillows Lee. I'm the reason why
she is losing because I'm the
winner.
In the morning, guys, this is
pinball gypsy. This is the first
meetup I've been to in Kansas
City was down at one in Austin
and this was awesome and amazing
time because I ruined
everything.
So it's been a while for Kansas
City here my New Year's
resolution, more KC meetups and
2024 Greetings,
no agenda community. We wish you
the best from chiefs kingdom.
This meetup was an app but
definitely not a scam. Kyle from
Omaha here at the limpers
pinball beat up at Kansas City.
Johnny What was your favorite
pinball game? You liked the
Godzilla game. Can you say in
the morning you Get a
Adam Curry: gypsy that is
actually I follow her on no
agenda social. She always is
putting up her pinball scores of
different pinball machines she
plays. He's quite interesting.
We got to meet up. A meet up
happening tomorrow. Actually,
there's the BVI Shut up, slave
New Year's Day meet up that'll
be in Tortola Virgin Islands at
smuggler's Cove. Go to Nigel's
boom, boom, boom beach bar. You
know what's going on there and
I'm saying, I'm looking forward
to a report from you guys. On
the fourth of January. That's
next Thursday. Our next show day
five forks first Thursday, no
agenda meet up six o'clock at
bol winkels. Tavern in
Simpsonville, South Carolina,
and the Mile High meetup takes
place in Denver, Colorado at
Lincoln's Roadhouse there's many
more to come throughout the
month of January, February,
April on their march should
probably be filling up pretty
soon. Again, connection is
protection. This is where you
need to go for your for your
family, for your community. For
your crowd for your crew, no
agenda meetups go to no agenda
meet ups.com If you can't find a
meet up on that list near you.
Why don't you start one yourself
it's easy and always guaranteed
a party
Unknown: nice day you won't be
Adam Curry: safe is like a party
I'm sorry, I only have one ISO
and I don't think it's very
good. I only have one oh, this
is uh this is this is bad. This
is bad. This were a random
John C Dvorak: number that
happens all the time to us.
Alright, so
Adam Curry: I play mine first.
Yeah, sure. Thoughts. Such a
silly thing. See, I told you
sucks sucks.
John C Dvorak: Well, I got is
seriously seriously.
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Is that all
we got?
John C Dvorak: It's time to go
into the archives and pick a
classic classic to shop and
finish
I don't know what he's saying.
That's what I'm concerned about.
Oh,
Adam Curry: let's do it. Let's
live dangerously. Who cares? We
can do it. We can do this. We
can do this. News. Everyone is
right. We will leave the old
year and enter the new was some
good news. John once again has
selected something that Mimi
pines over in between taking
care of all the dogs in the
kennel.
John C Dvorak: Okay, here we go.
Now this one is Deb, you're
going to this two minutes right
on the money. Okay. Cut down
from four.
Adam Curry: Oh goodness, local
Report. I
John C Dvorak: hope you've got
obviously here we go.
Unknown: A Goodwill store
changed the lives of two local
families to a shared memory card
from a camera. Originally from
Chesterfield, Jordan, Vermont is
a senior at Mizzou studying
education and as a self
proclaimed amateur photographer.
This is the goodwill in
Manchester where it all started.
Jordan and Sharon, Vermont, her
mother decided to go shopping
during Thanksgiving break for
Jordan from Mizzou. She asked
her mom if she could buy a
camera that was more than 20
years old for the technology
section.
And when we got home, she said,
Mom, there's a memory card in
here. And I said, Oh, I hope
that people didn't leave
pictures on that. I wonder
what's on there. And
it was full of someone's family
photos from 2009. Jordan said
she wanted to send these
pictures to whomever they belong
to. So Sharon posted on Facebook
asking if anyone knew these
people, therefore 2009.
So I didn't know if some of the
people in the photos weren't
around anymore.
Jordan was right. My dad has
been gone for five years. And
yeah, very sad. And my aunt
passed away. Two years ago, Pat
and her husband Phil bought the
camera back in 2001. After
cleaning out their basement in
Manchester, they donated it to
Goodwill in November. I lost my
mom, three years ago, and I just
was thinking, you know, if
somebody had found pictures of
her, I mean, I would be so
grateful to get
as was Pat who bumped into a
friend she hadn't seen in 10
years at a local craft show.
Then
two days later, I get a text
from her saying Is this your
family? And I'm like, Oh my
gosh, yes, it is my family.
Social media, bringing together
total strangers.
I definitely magical and like I
said very exciting and just
crazy. I mean, it's such a
small, small world. It really is
a small place because she
thinks of other people more than
herself. And she was the one who
said mom we have to try to find
out whose pictures they are and
that just showed me what a
beautiful soul my daughter has
been.
Reporting in Manchester any
crawl.
Adam Curry: Ah, that's nice.
That's that is good news. I like
that is finding old pictures.
Voices from the grave. What
Unknown: do we want?
Adam Curry: When do we want it
now? Your final good news.
Everybody, your final good news
of 2023. And I think it was a
good year. Yeah, it was crazy.
And people got all mad and spun
up. But doesn't matter. We had a
good time here no agenda.
John C Dvorak: And it was a
better year than 2022. Yes,
exactly.
Adam Curry: Oh, much better.
Hey, we were walking around. We
were free men and women again.
Thank you all so much. Wish you
a very, very happy new year. A
very lovely ending. For all of
you. Remember those oil balls.
John C Dvorak: And we'll have a
donut hole one of the two and
we'll
Adam Curry: ended up with some
end of show mixes from Professor
Jay Jay there and China. rxo.
And Drew steel. Thank you troll
room. We love you. We'll see you
on Thursday because even in the
new year, we'll kick it off
right we'll get started is going
to be a good one. It's going to
be a lot of fun. We'll all be
here for the ride. Coming to you
from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country and FEMA Region number
five in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: In the northern
Silicon Valley am John C.
Dvorak. Happy
Adam Curry: New Year everybody.
Remember to stay tuned to the
stream. We got the Lotus effect
live to get you ready for New
Year's probably take you through
the countdown. Until next year,
adios mo foes who we who eat.
And such
Unknown: is the round of
competition that ultimately
determines your fate. The ladies
will have to demonstrate your
ability to answer a thought
provoking questions, especially
when the whole country is
watching. To begin with South
Carolina,
Nikki Haley is facing a barrage
of criticism. But for something
she didn't say. You know, Dr.
Beck, what caused the Civil War?
I personally believe did not
mention slavery.
What do you want me to say?
I personally believe and blamed
a democratic plant for the
question. And we will because
sama about that be committed.
What do you want me to say about
slavery? What was the cause of
the United States, South Africa
and we were like What do you
want me to say about slavery? So
we will be able to build up our
stature. Nikki Haley is facing a
barrage of criticism
especially when the whole
country is watching to begin
with South Carolina South
Carolina What do you want me to
say about slavery I personally
believe
got nothing on my face that's
what she was saying. I don't
follow mandate. I just looked
the other way. At least that's
what she was saying. That's what
she was saying. But I can't
breathe I can't start
quarantine. Like I got this
breed in my mind saying that a
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see something is overblown. They
just make the rules up as they
go up as they go and they think
that we don't know
they think that we don't know
but I can't breathe I can't
start like God got this greed in
my mind without a fight because
the governmental say Say Say Say
say gay gay gay gay gay
Kerry's gonna take a break.
Great. Great, great, great thank
you
say get out Hey, just think what
you've been getting down and out
about the media and the dirty
dirty leaves in the world. You
could have been getting out to
the streets. My best friend
brought his new girlfriend she's
like, Oh my god, please put on a
message to the lady over there
with crazy adsterra just called
Baby Give me a break. Break
break
and the cameras gonna Hey. Gray
gray gray gray gray take it off.
Take it off
a good day
be swans. Be swans. Be swans.
Swans, swans. swans. swans. Be
swans. Swans, the swans. The
swans, swans, swans. Get her out
of her house,
every day. Celebrate.
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