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December 17th, 2023 • 3h 1m

1617: Twerkin' Russians

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Unknown: Take her up.
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah 1720 23 This Jor
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awardwinning give our nation media assassination episode
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1617. This
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Unknown: is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: anarchy on the airwaves and we're broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here. FEMA reached
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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I've
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noticed Megyn Kelly has ozempic face. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg
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Hill.
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Adam Curry: You You notice that after I told you she had that?
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Come on? Yeah, man.
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John C Dvorak: After you told me I didn't get I was lucky. I
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wasn't. What can I say? Took me a wild. One view is oh my god,
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this is not good. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I told you. I told you.
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John C Dvorak: I am indebted to your accuracy.
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Adam Curry: Well, since you since you brought it up right
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away. I think we need to look at the script. Because they're
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unhinged and out of control. The house people, the United States
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media apparatus is controlled by big pharma, and they do not have
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your best interests at heart. Please believe me when I say
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this, ah, they Okay, so remember Sanjay Gupta from CNN, what I
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had on the last show where he was reading the script, and it
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was like, the
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John C Dvorak: guy that that Rogen chewed out on his show on
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a horse paste.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. So, you know, ivermectin. Oh, that's
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horse pace. What are you doing now, if you're using the generic
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because that's what geo semaglutide is. It's generic
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GLP. One.
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John C Dvorak: This is just a cheap peptide anyone can get if
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you're
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Adam Curry: using this and you're getting it from a
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pharmacy that does compounding which Big Pharma has hated
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forever. You are now poisoning yourself this. Sanjay Gupta said
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on the last show, we had his script he rolled it out. There's
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a 15 100% increase in people overdosing on GLP one drugs, but
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it's not ozempic. And we'll go V No, they have dials that show
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you so you can't overdose. No. It's people using not just
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compounded versions, not just generic versions. Oh, no. We're
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improving the script. We're calling them knock offs. Yes,
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Abc New York
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Unknown: fact that was a totally new reporting on all these
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weight loss drugs that we've been hearing about. It's hard to
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keep tabs on what's going on with which ones everyday but
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this new reporting talks about the poison control centers
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across the United States. They're now reporting an uptick
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in calls related to accidental overdoses of some magnitude.
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That's the injection medication used for diabetes and weight
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loss. They've become so popular with these names like ozempic
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and Wigo. V. Yeah,
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so from January through November, poison centers
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reported nearly 3000 calls involving semaglutide. And that
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is more than a 15 fold increase since 2019. Poison Control
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Centers say that they believe that dosing issues involve
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knockoff or compounded versions of the drug and that is behind
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many of the calls
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Adam Curry: knock offs knock offs. This is outrageous
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language.
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John C Dvorak: Well let's let's stop there.
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Adam Curry: I have a couple more so I guess we're pausing guys
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John C Dvorak: want to go to the term knockoff, which stems from
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the fashion industry? Oh, yes. And in the fashion industry,
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because there's no copyright on on dress designs. A couture guy,
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some guy making fancy dresses are gonna go out and showed off
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the current styles and then the cheap guys will not do knock
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offs. She implies a cheap copy, copy. That's not the same.
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Adam Curry: Ah, you know, the only thing that is patented for
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these drugs certainly for ozempic is the dial is the
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dosage dial. That's their patent. Did the semaglutide is
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out of patent. It's a bit I don't know if it's, if you can,
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if you they can read patented. It's been around, but they've
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repackaged it I'm sure they put some other magic potions in
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there. Let's have a listen here to Good Morning America since
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2019.
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Unknown: The percentage of patients receiving a semaglutide
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prescription has increased well over 900%. A surge led largely
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by their patients lose weight, but more patients means more
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accidents and Miss applications, particularly with injecting
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improper doses. Charles McPherson has been taking those
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epics since April to manage his diabetes but says he initially
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took the wrong
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Adam Curry: dosage? Oh, no,
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Unknown: I didn't feel well had the flu or I didn't feel well,
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you'll well for a couple of days. So I want to
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John C Dvorak: stop for a second. How to heat it up? Are
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you injecting yourself with this stuff? Yeah, there's no
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instructions were how do you take the wrong dosage of
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something like this was an injectable and only get once a
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week
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Adam Curry: they're going to insinuate that people are
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morons, people are idiots, and certainly the idiots who get you
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know, just plain old GLP one drugs from a compounding
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pharmacy. You're idiots. You're morons, you don't know what
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you're doing? Don't worry, we're getting to it all. It's
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important that you take note of the horrible side effects of
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overdosing and
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Unknown: feel well, it's like I had the flu or something. I
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still didn't feel well for a couple of days. So I went into
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the emergency room.
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And with those major brand names, so highly sought after
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many people are turning to imitation or compounded
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imitation. That's where he saw those errors. manufactured
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product comes in a pen that has prefilled doses, it's less
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likely for patients to give the wrong dose. Whereas a lot of the
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compounded formulations. They're dispensed in vials with needles
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and syringes, and it's up to the patients to draw out the correct
6:22
amount of medication to administer to themselves.
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Adam Curry: Yes, oh, we can't leave that up to those people.
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People have been injecting themselves with drugs for
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centuries, probably. Well, not centuries for decades. CBS
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though has a different slant on it. They're gonna take it
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somewhere that we couldn't even even take it with COVID
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vaccines.
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Unknown: The FDA has issued a new warning about some of the
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popular Diabetes drugs being used for weight loss. The agency
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says it has quote received adverse event reports. Patients
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use Oh compound.
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Adam Curry: Wait a minute, did they check the various database
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now all of a sudden because they have adverse event reports? Oh,
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goodness, I thought you never looked at that. I thought it
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wasn't reliable.
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Unknown: semaglutide. That's the generic name for medications
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like ozempic and Wigo V. People tend to purchase compounded or
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off brand versions online or when freshers run out. The FDA
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says this often happens when certain medications like those
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weight loss drugs are in high demand.
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Adam Curry: Thanks for the commentary. So this, this last
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news clip, I'm going to include the whole script because these
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two Arizona NBC affiliate ladies did a great I mean, bonus for
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you ladies bonus bonus bonus. Because there's two parts of the
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script one is that we have a 15 fold increase in people
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overdosing. And that is of course because of the knockoffs
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imitation the compounded Lemo non special cartridge dial
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versions. The second part of the script is and they all had the
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same script is what you feel like when you've overdosed on
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your fake knockoff version. The symptoms of overdosing are
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exactly the same as the side effects that you can possibly
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have. Nausea, vomiting, vomiting, diarrhea, slow colon
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action. from Mattel. They are the exact they are exactly the
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same. So part of the script is to say, and I think they're
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doing this to move people's focus away from the side effects
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which suck ask Sharon Osbourne you know, I wish we could ask
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Megan Kelly, she'll never ask me back on again. When she did I'd
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say hey, well, you pooping your guts out during this thing?
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Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, geez, you wouldn't do that. Yeah, I would
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be a talker.
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Adam Curry: So that's, that's part of the expected and
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possible side effects. I think what they're now doing is that
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if you have the side effects, then they then they will call
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your doctor of course you say hey, I you know, am I overdose
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we should probably lower your dose or whatever. They're trying
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to minimize the actual side effects by calling them effects
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of overdosing or taking too much. Listen to these two ladies
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from NBC Arizona. They did a great job.
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Unknown: It's believed knockoff versions of the drugs behind
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many of the calls. So let's talk about it. Joining me now is Dr.
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Soto harder with Dignity Health Medical Group? This is
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astonishing. So no, I cannot believe the huge spike. Why are
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we seeing so many overdoses? So
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first of all the prescriptions percent Prescriptions have gone
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up about 900% since 2019. So we all have some other titles very
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widely used now for diabetes as well as obesity. But here's the
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other two It is actually dosing errors is what we are noticing
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in all these poisoning calls. And number one, so the
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prescription FDA approved medication comes in a prefilled
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syringe would
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Adam Curry: be approved notice this the approved medication.
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approved medication
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Unknown: comes in a prefilled syringe, which is easier to use.
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However, patients still have to dial in a number, okay for the
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dose. Now, if you're not properly educated on how to do
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this, you could dial in a wrong number. For example, there was a
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patient who was supposed to take about point one milliliters of
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the dose and she injected one milliliter, which is Whoa.
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Adam Curry: Like she knows,
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Unknown: liters of the dose and she
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John C Dvorak: injected one actually, the better line would
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be Oh, that must be twice as much.
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Unknown: milliliters of the dose injected one milliliter, which
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is Whoa, so and these medications hang around for one
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week, when you inject them, there is no way to these
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medications, meaning you really have to take care of the
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symptoms, while the body clears the medications. Okay.
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And when you're talking about the symptoms and the
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complications, I mean, what are we talking about here? Nausea,
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vomiting GI symptoms, like diarrhea, constipation, also
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paralysis of your colon at times in extreme cases, but very low
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sugar seizures, those are some fatigue and shaking powers.
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These are some common symptoms that patients can have a dose of
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these medications
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that is frightening, okay, there's a few I mean, you just
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got to wait it out and go through all the symptoms for a
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week.
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So communicate with your health provider at all times, even if
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they're mild symptoms, because you might get some guidance on
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how to combat that. If you severe symptoms, emergency room
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IV fluids, something for vomiting, something too,
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obviously, and obviously discontinuing these medications
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at that point. Yeah. So pay attention to the dosage.
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Absolutely. And learn from the providers how to actually dose
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and how to take these medications. Very important.
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Okay. Excellent advice. Sonal. Thank you. I know we're going to
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talk to you in a couple of minutes. That's
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Adam Curry: right. We're gonna do it all over again. And they
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did it again. They did another report. So everybody's on the
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take. This is every one is on the take. And I have some some
12:13
evidence to back that up. But let's not forget America's
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favorite conservative doctor from Fox News, Doc Siegel. Oh,
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he was all in on the COVID shots. Remember him on Tucker
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Carlson? Oh, yeah, Tucker, and he hates marijuana. Oh, target
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marijuana, no good. But this stuff. This is the tests.
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Unknown: We've been talking all about people using ozempic for
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weight loss. But many of the users report a decrease in
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anxiety and depression since they started using batteries. He
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feel better. Anxiety. That's what they say. Doc Siegel is
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going to straighten it all out for us. He is with us right now.
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Weight Loss drugs like ZMP, the treating binge eating disorders
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as well. Is this a new all purpose class of drugs? Nothing,
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you
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know, stored it maybe I'll tell you I say maybe because what we
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can't prove yet is whether these effects are the benefits of
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looking down and saying Hey, where'd my gut go, right? So you
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feel better? You look better. And maybe that decreases your
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depression. But increasing studies are showing a very
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positive effect of ozempic. And with govi and majoro on the
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brain, what are they doing? They're stabilizing neurons in
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the brain. They're decreasing that surge of dopamine that you
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get right after you eat that causes more reading. It's
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addictive eating. When it when it tastes good. You get the
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hormone and this is actually blocking it. What is ozempic do
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by the way, it stops sugar released from the liver. It
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causes delayed emptying of the gut. And and this is the key and
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a big study in South Korea is showing this it works on the
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hormones in the brain. It causes the brain hormones to change so
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you don't feel hungry. And you also don't feel anxious. This
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all I'm buying this. I think that this is this is a real
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find.
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Adam Curry: It's a real finding. Yeah, Doc. It's a real finding
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from a breakthrough study in Korea. Yeah, sure. So Reuters
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did a huge article on doctors getting paid as consultants, by
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the way, anyone remember the Sacklers? I don't remember how
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that went with the opioid opioids. Everyone getting paid?
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Yeah, just double the dose. So one of the doctors according to
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this report from Reuters, which we'll just have to say, we're
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gonna have to take that as fact, who's expected who's been
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accepting money from Novo Nordisk, and by the way, you'll
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hear that the script is only for Wigo V and ozempic. But they're
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not talking about as any of the other brands, certainly not
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Manjaro or deskbound. So one of the doctors accepting the money
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is Dr. Anya Juster, broth of Yale University Center for
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Weight Management. And she has received $130,000 For as a
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consultant to this company in in Denmark. ARCU I guess needs her
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services. But there's a list this, this must be a 3000 word
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article. Oh, and once you know it, here she is on her own
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little, little YouTube channel semaglutide.
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Unknown: Like other medications that are used for obesity
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treatment have to be taken long term. Just as for any other
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chronic disease, if a medication is stopped for any reason, the
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disease is no longer being treated. So for example, if
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somebody is taking a medication for hypertension, if you stop
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that antihypertensive medication, the blood pressure
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goes up and we're not surprised. In the same way if someone is
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taking medication for obesity treatment when it is stopped,
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weight gain occurs or weight regain occurs more accurately.
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Why is this? So obesity is a chronic disease. It's a neuro
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metabolic disease. What?
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Adam Curry: It's a neuro metabolic disease. This is part
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of the changing of
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John C Dvorak: the truth. Yeah, no, they've been working on this
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one for a while. And
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Adam Curry: she's paid to to confuse you with language. And
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I'm telling you, you have a disease, meaning
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Unknown: that our body and our brain talk to each other. What
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happens is our body is very, very smart. It wants to carry a
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certain amount of fuel. And the way that our body does this is
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by carrying shaft, and our body does not want to carry too
16:23
little fat because then we would starve and our body also doesn't
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want to carry too much fat because then we would not be
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able to do the things that we need to do and have our body
16:33
functions well. And so there's a sweet spot. Oh, and we call that
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sweet spot that defended fat mass setpoint
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Adam Curry: the defended fat mass setpoint.
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John C Dvorak: I like the idea of a fat man. And
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Unknown: so it's basically the amount of fuel or the amount of
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fat that your body wants to carry. Now within the context of
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our current obesogenic environment, obesogenic
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Adam Curry: environment
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John C Dvorak: like that one too obesogenic.
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Adam Curry: How do they come up with this stuff,
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Unknown: obesogenic environment with all of these highly
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palatable?
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John C Dvorak: For Chautala obesogenic Yeah, obesity, well,
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I'll go fat mass, I want to fat mess anything like a fat blah.
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Unknown: We'll get into that later. You want us to carry now
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within the context of our current obesogenic environment.
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So an environment with all of these highly palatable, highly
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processed foods. The lack of sleep, the lack of
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Adam Curry: an obesogenic environment is basically when
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you live in McDonald's.
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Unknown: In physical activity, lack of sleep,
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Adam Curry: yeah, lack of sleep. That's part of your obesogenic
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environment.
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Unknown: highly palatable, highly processed, highly
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palatable.
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Adam Curry: What is what does that mean in this context?
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John C Dvorak: is tasty. They put a bunch of salt and fat
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sugar
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Unknown: on all of these highly palatable, highly processed
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foods. The lack of sleep, the lack of movement and physical
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activity.
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Adam Curry: Yes, yes, that makes sense.
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Unknown: Yes, life podcast.
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Adam Curry: I tried to stand sometimes during the podcast,
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movement
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Unknown: and physical activity, stress all these different
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things in our obesogenic environment that has pushed up
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the defended fat mass setpoint on a population level
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Adam Curry: ball beautifully. Well said, Here's your check.
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John C Dvorak: Here's your I'll tell you I pay her to straight
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to hell.
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Adam Curry: She's going I'm telling you. This came up in the
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Senate. And I mean, Bernie Sanders. Everyone's all in and
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it's, of course, our obesogenic environment. It's really the
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It's the food guys. The food guys, it's their fault, because
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they're creating an obesogenic environment
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John C Dvorak: to put a Senate committee together with Nadler
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running.
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Adam Curry: Luckily, at the end, there's there's one little
19:05
kicker of sanity from the doctor. Senators
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Unknown: say last year, the US spent nearly 413 billion should
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Adam Curry: probably say this, again, is about trying to get
19:14
this stuff onto Medicare. They desperately want it to be paid
19:19
for by the rest of America. Senator
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Unknown: say last year, the US spent nearly $413 billion
19:26
treating the millions in the US with diabetes.
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That's up 27%. Over the past six years,
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Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders says it's only expected to get
19:36
worse the
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number of children in America with type two diabetes is
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estimated to skyrocket by nearly 700% Over the next 40 years.
19:48
Number one Thursday, Dr. Keisha told senators on the Senate
19:52
Health Education Labor and Pensions Committee that rising
19:55
insulin prices put some of her patients health in jeopardy
19:59
what happened insist that patients cannot afford those
20:02
medications. And so they go without Senator
20:04
say with many Americans turning to drugs like ozempic to improve
20:08
other conditions like obesity. It's harder for their
20:11
constituents to even access the diabetes drug.
20:14
How can Congress ensure that all populations that can benefit
20:18
from this medication have access to it, the supply
20:21
issue is important. But there's also really important shortages
20:24
because of the price
20:25
and Sanders says Congress also needs to address how to prevent
20:29
obesity in the first place.
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A good place to start would be to ban junk food ads targeted to
20:36
children's
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Adam Curry: keep the farmer ads banned the junk food ads after
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Unknown: this. Congress needs to do more to hold both the food
20:46
and drug industries accountable. We
20:48
have a food industry that profits from making people sick,
20:52
and a drug industry that profits from treating them. Thank
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Adam Curry: you, doctor. There you go. Give that lady a check.
20:59
That is exactly what's going on. The food companies keep you
21:03
sick. And the pharmaceutical industry gives you drugs to keep
21:09
you just healthy enough to
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John C Dvorak: live enough to go buy more crappy food. Yes
21:13
Adam Curry: to push the button fill out the form. buy more
21:17
food. Eat some meats people eat some meat. It's unbelievable.
21:24
This is this is an all out assault. And assault on people.
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Oh, don't worry about it. You can just you know where do you
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live? Oh, oh, you're in an obesogenic environment. No
21:36
problem. We got this special. Don't take don't take the cheap
21:38
one. Ah, because that'll make you poop. No. You want this one
21:43
with the dial on it. Ah. Protect your children please. As
21:49
unbelievable these people go. Anyway, that was my big pharma
21:54
report. Congratulations, everybody.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, he scraped two or three more of these.
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Well, this
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Adam Curry: was the script. I mean, I don't know if they're
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going to come up with another angle. I couldn't have they
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would have clips. Of course they will. I could have clipped five
22:10
more locals and learning shows. You know what? The country know
22:15
what to expect next I expect
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John C Dvorak: ever forbids giving us any news world news
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report.
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Adam Curry: Here's what I expect. I expect before the year
22:24
is out. We will see a morning news person self injecting on
22:30
camera just to show how easy it is with the dial.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not going to condemn you for
22:38
predicting the obvious.
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Adam Curry: I just want to see it.
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John C Dvorak: But I agree. You're probably right. Some
22:46
idiot one of these people are going to Who will it be?
22:49
Adam Curry: Who's fat? Who's faking? It
22:51
John C Dvorak: should be Al Roker.
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Adam Curry: No Al Roker. He lost all the weight. No,
22:55
John C Dvorak: but he still kind of how about Whoopi, Whoopi? No,
23:00
she won't do it. Now. She get too much pride. Who else do we I
23:05
would do it. It has to be one of the women that it would be
23:08
something like Savannah who's kind of like she's not
23:11
Adam Curry: How about Gail Gail still has a little punch punch
23:14
to her. Gail won't do it now. Well, Oprah did it. Oprah
23:18
admitted that she did it.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's fine, but she was gonna do it.
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Do it once it'll do it on camera have to be the most shameless of
23:25
the morning people. Yeah. That's why I think Savannah would do
23:30
it. But you're right you probably shouldn't condemn her
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for your a thing why you're doing it?
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Adam Curry: Yeah, we need someone who's you know clearly
23:38
obesogenic.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, how about this, okay, they bring it they
23:44
do a cattle call and they bring in a an anchor from one of the
23:48
Adam Curry: nation's local station local anchor, and they
23:51
bring
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John C Dvorak: her onto the network. Yeah, because this
23:53
might be her big chance. Convince her Asia that she
23:57
should come to New York. Hey,
24:00
Adam Curry: hey, I gotta listen. I got some great news for you.
24:03
You're gonna go national baby. You're gonna be on the network.
24:07
Oh, really? Yeah, all you got to do is inject yourself
24:14
John C Dvorak: have to be somebody already taking it so
24:16
they won't even be shy about
24:17
Adam Curry: well that could be any morning disc jockey. That
24:21
would also the morning disc jockeys they you know, they
24:23
always used to Hey, Hey John, how you doing on the Nutrisystem
24:28
diet. I'm still retaining water, but I'm down to 240 pounds. I've
24:37
been on so many mornings. Morning Show guys live in
24:40
obesogenic life. They really do they eat.
24:44
John C Dvorak: They're jolly.
24:47
Adam Curry: Jolly Yes. It just it is so disturbing that the
24:52
calling for oh, we should outlaw advertising of fast food. To
24:57
keep the drugs going though. keep them going.
25:01
John C Dvorak: That was a good one. That's actually the best
25:02
part of that whole series.
25:04
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, that's why I played it last month. I've
25:06
been doing this for 45 years. 45 years have been doing this
25:09
stuff. Sorry, I was I was I was rolling into the next bit. Roll
25:19
by three, experiment. JC comparing story from ABC, CBS.
25:30
He has three network reports, all scripts, all the same stuff.
25:33
Who knows it's always interesting to hear what is
25:36
going on and JCVD is three by three. Well, this
25:39
John C Dvorak: is an interesting this leads into my more
25:42
extensive Hamas report, which will be revealing what I
25:48
consider to be the scam of this entire conflict conflagration in
25:56
the Middle East. But this is a I'm not sure where this goes
26:02
except for some clip I have that follows us of Jake Tapper.
26:07
discussing things but let's go into the three by three
26:09
discussing the conflagration in the Middle East with ABC.
26:16
Unknown: ABC just started off tonight that high stakes meeting
26:19
in Israel. Thank you for your support national security
26:22
adviser Jake Sullivan urging Prime Minister Benjamin
26:24
Netanyahu to scale back the most intense fighting amid the
26:28
soaring civilian death toll in Gaza.
26:30
He did talk about possible transitioning from what we would
26:33
call high intensity operations which is what we're seeing them
26:36
do now to lower intensity operate Oh lower intensive
26:39
sometime, you know in the near
26:41
future US official confirming a report in The New York Times
26:44
that a lower intensity operation may involve the use of smaller
26:47
groups of elite Israeli forces that would carry out more
26:50
precise missions to find and kill Hamas leaders rescue
26:54
hostages and destroy tunnels. President Biden weighing in
26:57
I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives. Not stop
27:03
going after a mosque but be more careful.
27:06
A US official confirming that nearly half the air to ground
27:09
munitions that Israel has used in Gaza. unguided so called dumb
27:15
bombs. Experts say dropping bombs which a Pentagon official
27:19
claims Israel is doing can boost their precision and Yahoo
27:23
defined saying Israel is more determined than ever to continue
27:26
fighting until Hamas is eliminated. The Israeli military
27:31
is releasing this video showing dozens of men with their hands
27:33
up surrendering, claiming their Hamas militants who were
27:36
operating inside a hospital for the gardens living under
27:40
Israel's relentless bombardment, desperation and fear. Nowhere is
27:45
safe. And after 69 days of fighting concern for the more
27:49
than 100 hostages who are still in the hands of Hamas. The Biden
27:53
administration wants Israel to move to a more tactical targeted
27:57
operation as soon as possible but they also want a plan for
28:01
the future of Gaza not just the end of Hamas.
28:04
Adam Curry: Okay, so let me see if I if I understood correctly.
28:07
We're calling for some bull crap measure going from high
28:11
intensity to low intensity stopped with the dumb bombs and
28:16
be more focused be more precise I'm missing the word I'm missing
28:19
the word surgical and and we're missing a Tim what's your
28:24
strategy? Is that what I'm hearing? Yeah,
28:26
John C Dvorak: pretty much and then my favorite thing about
28:29
these bomb things when all of a sudden we smart bombs dumb
28:33
bombs. Remember the barrel bomb
28:36
Adam Curry: barrel bomb from the helicopters those were the best
28:39
Yes, yeah. Well, it turns out all of that was phony and fake.
28:42
John C Dvorak: You think? So let's go that was what that was
28:46
ABC. NBC same same report only this time we got to Richard
28:49
angle. The spook NBC spook
28:55
Unknown: as Israel's war on Hamas devastates the Gaza Strip.
28:58
President Biden was asked if Israel needs to tone down its
29:02
military operation often do
29:04
focused on how to save civilian lives. Not stopped going after a
29:09
mosque but be more careful.
29:11
National Sheikh Salim exactly
29:13
Adam Curry: clip Yep, same clip. Be more careful. Hey, kill
29:18
carefully.
29:19
Unknown: Not stop going after a minute but be more careful.
29:22
National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan meeting Israeli Prime
29:26
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today. To US officials familiar
29:30
with the discussion. Tell NBC News Sullivan told the Israeli
29:33
government the administration wants Israel to end its large
29:37
scale ground campaign in Gaza and transition to a more
29:40
targeted phase of its war against Hamas bought that
29:43
Sullivan did not specify a timetable to do this. Israeli
29:48
military officials tell NBC News What
29:50
Adam Curry: was that someone
29:52
John C Dvorak: who has the woman in the back room has stepped
29:56
over some chords and like the mic there was
29:58
Adam Curry: supposed to be a bomb explosion there But instead
30:00
they did this that was that's wrong. Hey, the editor NAT pops.
30:04
Okay,
30:04
Unknown: US bought that Sullivan did not specify a timetable to
30:08
do this. Israeli military officials tell NBC News tonight.
30:12
We
30:13
Adam Curry: should fix that for them. I mean, they just didn't
30:15
do that. Right. So let me see.
30:17
John C Dvorak: I agree. Okay. I think machine gun fire that's
30:21
what I want machine
30:21
Adam Curry: gun machine gun. Okay. Yeah, I
30:23
John C Dvorak: got some good machine gun stuff.
30:25
Adam Curry: I got something here. So we do an AK 47. So,
30:31
hey, why don't have ak 47. Oh, there we go. Okay, there we go.
30:35
Fix it for him. We'll fix it of its
30:37
Unknown: war against Hamas bought that Sullivan did not
30:39
specify a timetable to do this. Israeli military officials tell
30:44
NBC News so much they anticipate a long military campaign, but
30:49
recognize they are under pressure because of Palestinian
30:52
casualties and the humanitarian collapse in Gaza. Our crew
30:57
filmed the aftermath of Israeli strikes today and followed the
31:00
victims to a hospital. This was in southern Gaza, where
31:03
Palestinians have been ordered to go. Israel says its war is
31:07
more than justified after Hamas massacred at least 1200 Israelis
31:12
and took 240 hostages on October 7. Richard,
31:15
I want to go back to this new US intelligence assessment about
31:19
the bombs Israel has been using in Gaza. What's the significance
31:22
of that report?
31:23
Well, the assessment says that about 40 to 45% of the air to
31:29
ground munitions 29,000 air to ground munitions that Israel has
31:33
dropped on Gaza since October 7 are unguided. Which are far less
31:37
precise.
31:38
Adam Curry: Dustin Oh unguided. A different word for dumb. Okay.
31:43
unguided, unguided.
31:46
John C Dvorak: Alright, so they were being set up for something
31:48
here not sure. What Yeah, I have some ideas which will follow
31:54
let's start with the this finishes up with our the one
31:57
that always is the best at the end. CBS always
32:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, the CIA broadcasting systems. Here we
32:02
go. Only Saturday. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Good start boys.
32:07
Good start. Very good.
32:10
Unknown: In a shattered school, Israel's military said it killed
32:13
many militants in intense fighting in the past day,
32:16
hailing the surrender of about 70 alleged Hamas fighters in the
32:20
south Israeli strikes and leveled homes and killed dozens
32:23
in Rafah and con Eunice. One survivor said their children,
32:27
today's deaths adding to the more than 18,000 killed
32:30
according to Gaza's health ministry run by Hamas. President
32:34
Biden weighed in,
32:35
worked into how to save civilian lives. Not stopped going after a
32:41
monster be more careful with
32:43
national security adviser Jake Sullivan in Israel today. Pres
32:46
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on a timeline to US
32:50
officials tell CBS News Israel's current phase of its offensive
32:54
should be completed in two to three weeks followed by lower
32:57
levels of bombing for several months lower levels. On Israeli
33:02
TV, Mr. Netanyahu said I told our American friends were more
33:05
determined than ever until Hamas is eliminated
33:09
the he's playing a game a political game on look at me.
33:12
I'm standing up to American pressure
33:15
alone. Pincus is Israel's former consul general in New York as
33:20
what future pressure will the
33:22
US supply. Refrain from a veto vote at the UN Security Council
33:26
there are several courses of pressure that the US can apply.
33:31
One of those are these frequent visits.
33:35
As Israel's president in Tel Aviv marked the last night of
33:38
this year's festival of lights, the country still hopes for a
33:41
miracle, the return of more than 100 hostages still held in
33:45
captivity. And while the US and Israel are working together
33:49
towards another phase of hostage releases, the two do not agree
33:53
on who will govern Gaza after this war is over.
33:57
Adam Curry: Well at least they give a better timeline they had
34:00
same clip of Biden of course killed carefully
34:02
John C Dvorak: exactly the same clip which is usually all three
34:05
networks don't have the exact same clip cut exactly the same.
34:10
So how does that happen? They call each other up no
34:14
Adam Curry: they got their money
34:14
John C Dvorak: get one clip from the White House and say use this
34:18
if they
34:18
Adam Curry: send out a vinyl like we used to get back in the
34:21
day. That big big special vinyl you could only play 516
34:25
John C Dvorak: is transcription disk is what it's called. Thank
34:27
Adam Curry: you. Yes, look that up people transcription disk.
34:31
And you take the clip from there. That's all they got.
34:33
Yeah, of course. People are busy in the newsrooms. They don't
34:37
have time to be looking for clips busy. They don't have no
34:40
agenda producers looking for clips for everybody. No. Oh,
34:44
they got they are busy. They're busy especially around the
34:47
holidays is the B team. Everybody's out. Oh, we got a
34:51
war. Yeah, but you promised me two weeks of vacation at
34:54
Christmas time. But we got two wars. I don't care bring in Bob.
34:59
Bob works at in Idaho, he can do it bring in the affiliate boys.
35:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there is an element of that for sure. So I
35:12
want to continue this because I have a thesis that is of course
35:18
the thesis is not new to the show and is not new to our
35:22
analysis of the Middle East there
35:24
Adam Curry: why even bother? Let's just go straight to Taylor
35:27
Swift news
35:32
John C Dvorak: Okay, by the way, you know, the Incognito grow,
35:35
who writes on every so really still around,
35:38
Adam Curry: he doesn't write by he
35:39
John C Dvorak: sends me clips. And he sent me a clip of I
35:43
should I should send it to you and you should put it in the
35:46
show notes. It's a clip of an IT guy doing an analysis of Taylor
35:50
Swift's lame music. And it's she uses the same four chords in the
35:55
same progression on almost every song she does. It's MK Ultra
36:01
Yeah, well I think you've got your think you might be onto
36:03
something with that.
36:04
Adam Curry: Hey, what does INCOG Negro not like me? Do I recall
36:08
something that he hated me for some reason? You're
36:11
John C Dvorak: racist. Oh, that was it. You're making up for it
36:14
by being buddies with Mo. Mo my
36:18
Adam Curry: friend is happens to be black. I get to say that
36:22
friend,
36:22
John C Dvorak: I have a friend who's black
36:24
Adam Curry: who happens to be black. You gotta say.
36:28
John C Dvorak: Right, I gotta get the wording.
36:29
Adam Curry: I gotta get it right. Gotta get it right. So
36:31
John C Dvorak: let's go to NTD I want to play this. This is the
36:33
Israeli Israeli Jake Sullivan NTD.
36:38
Unknown: This is in di D National Security Adviser Jake
36:42
Sullivan is in Israel to reaffirm us support.
36:45
He's meeting with top officials pushing to move to war into its
36:49
next phase. The US wants more intelligence based raids and
36:53
precise targeting of Hamas leadership.
36:56
We are now in the middle of a high intensity phase with
36:58
ongoing ground operations military operations. Hold on a
37:03
second. Is this our war?
37:07
John C Dvorak: Gig Exactly?
37:08
Adam Curry: What's going on here? Oh, send Jaken Hey, man,
37:12
we want we want it done differently. You're not killing
37:14
right.
37:16
John C Dvorak: So so if you listen to that carefully, and it
37:18
reiterates in the next half of this clip, he says we Yes, we as
37:24
if it's our USA, our war. It's not a weak situation. But he
37:30
says we as though it's we was the second half of this.
37:34
Unknown: We are now in the middle of a high intensity phase
37:37
with ongoing ground operations military operations in both the
37:41
northern half and the southern half of Gaza. But there will be
37:45
a transition to another phase of this war one that is focused in
37:50
more precise ways on targeting the leadership and
37:53
Sullivan today also met with Israeli President Isaac Hertzog
37:56
and Tel Aviv. The two discussed efforts to secure the release of
38:00
the hostages held in Gaza.
38:02
Adam Curry: Now I don't like any of this. What uh, what are we
38:06
doing?
38:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what are we doing? Meanwhile, just as a
38:11
little man, interesting kind of in the side, which got me off
38:15
the track into what I'm thinking, which is this clip.
38:19
Hamas operatives in the EU? Yeah.
38:22
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah.
38:23
Unknown: I know. Also today, two suspected Hamas members arrived
38:27
at a federal court in Germany. German authorities transported
38:31
them using a helicopter. They're accused of planning attacks on
38:35
Jewish institutions in Europe.
38:38
authorities arrested three men in Germany yesterday.
38:41
Prosecutors allege they were tasked with finding a previously
38:44
set up underground Hamas weapons cache in Europe,
38:47
the weapons were allegedly due to be taken to Berlin. There
38:51
they be kept in a state of readiness for potential
38:54
terrorist attacks.
38:55
Another suspected to mass operative was arrested in the
38:58
Dutch city of Rotterdam. And also yesterday, three alleged
39:01
terrorists were arrested in Denmark in a separate case.
39:05
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Well, this is this is come do. Yeah. Yes. I
39:11
mean, this this is Oh, boy. This is unexpected.
39:15
John C Dvorak: This is a as phony as ISIS and Al Qaeda. And
39:21
it's actually brought together of all places. My clever N has a
39:26
show on the weekends. And he brings in Alan Dershowitz. Two
39:32
of them outline kind of what I think is I don't know what
39:37
agency who's doing this. It's obvious to me now that Dersch
39:40
Dersch isn't she's an asset is an asset he's in a you can tell
39:45
because he's at. I can discuss this, if, maybe later on how
39:52
much you can write as you get older. He's 85. And he's just
39:56
finished his second book. I was
39:57
Adam Curry: writing too much, but it's a giveaway And it's a
40:01
giveaway it
40:01
John C Dvorak: says like the guy who did the Steve Jobs biography
40:04
the head of the Aspen Institute at the time Eisenberg Isaacson
40:10
Isaacson that guy. Yeah. Are my favorite example is
40:15
Adam Curry: he just did the Elon Musk book too. Yeah, he's
40:18
John C Dvorak: cranking these books out who's doing these
40:20
books? Well, somebody's doing the books I've done big books. I
40:24
know what it takes to do big books is nothing you can just
40:26
crank out like that with
40:28
Adam Curry: the books and I cannot lie yes to books
40:31
John C Dvorak: and I cannot lie. Let's go with this, too. Let's
40:34
start with the Hamas Levin and Dersch part one
40:40
Unknown: to protect Jewish students on college campuses to
40:43
daily treat that a beat the drums about what's taking place
40:47
in this country. Every time they mentioned when they do mention
40:51
anti semitism they feel the need to mention
40:53
Adam Curry: I gotta mention something. Levin's voice the
40:56
older he gets, his voice is less powerful. It's frail. In my
41:03
agree, you know what I mean? It's he doesn't he? He's missing
41:06
worry about that for myself. Oh, powerful voice now you're
41:09
sounding good. Yeah,
41:11
John C Dvorak: he's becoming frail. Don't worry. I can't say
41:14
borrower.
41:15
Adam Curry: Don't worry. I'll put the balls on you on my end,
41:17
John C Dvorak: put the balls on
41:18
Unknown: me. Islamophobia. There is no Islamophobia in America,
41:22
as I've said before, Islamophobia is in the Middle
41:24
East Salama for Muslims are slaughtering Muslims that's not
41:27
going on in this country. And Muslims are not running to their
41:30
dorms rooms and locking themselves in, or the lunch
41:34
rooms or the attics. They're not afraid to go to class, and so
41:37
forth and so on. And I could go on and on and on. But why should
41:42
I want to have a guest like Alan Dershowitz here? What do you
41:44
make of all this? Well, you're 100%. Right. This is an attack
41:50
against the world. We just learned that now. Hamas is
41:55
expanding its scope and and wants to attack Jewish entities
42:00
in Europe. It's coming to a theater near you. If Hamas has
42:04
not stopped in the Middle East, it will spread all over the
42:09
world. It will start with Jewish institutions as it often does.
42:13
But it will spread to Christian institutions, it will spread to
42:17
other institutions. And we'll be in a global war with Hamas as we
42:22
were with ISIS and Al Qaeda. And we must do to Hamas with the
42:27
American troops under Roosevelt and under Churchill did to Japan
42:32
and Germany bombed total unconditional surrender. Total
42:36
War total defeat. We must wipe out Hamas and people say you
42:41
can't wipe out an ideology. Nonsense. We wiped out Nazism.
42:49
Adam Curry: Oh, what a gem. This is good. Oh, yeah. So what
42:54
they're gonna be shooting up churches? Is that what I'm
42:56
understanding from dirt? Yeah.
42:57
John C Dvorak: All right, any minute
42:59
Adam Curry: I have Bring it on.
43:00
John C Dvorak: Now we know that Hezbollah is a huge, highly
43:05
funded operation. Hamas are a bunch of to bid jerk offs in
43:09
Palestine.
43:10
Adam Curry: They say Javed Sheikh JV team, they'll be
43:13
funny.
43:15
John C Dvorak: And so we have but now all of a sudden they're
43:18
the same in the same league as Al Qaeda, a creation of our CIA.
43:25
Yes, our or ISIS, the creation of the Obama administration and
43:31
Israel possibly and but they're not going to take on and
43:37
Pakistan and pica so there's so these these operate this now
43:41
Hamas is going to become this somehow. And we heard from that
43:44
other clip that they're already being arrested left and right in
43:48
in Europe, in Europe. Yeah. Okay. So here we go. Now we're
43:52
gonna hear the, it gets better.
43:56
Adam Curry: Sorry. Wait,
43:57
John C Dvorak: I just got to, I have to give a disclaimer. I
43:59
think this next clip is, is over time. And I'm sorry about that.
44:05
But it's too good.
44:06
Adam Curry: I forgive you say so. Okay, Professor
44:09
Unknown: Dershowitz. I'd like your opinion. We keep hearing
44:12
about the Palestinian civilians that they don't want any of
44:15
this. There's two surveys done in the last three and a half
44:18
weeks. One is by the Arab world for research and development.
44:22
That doesn't sound like a an American Jewish front group to
44:25
me, and it's not and what did they write? Taken as a whole the
44:29
results indicate that an overwhelming percent of
44:31
Palestinians support the October 7 massacre 75% Reject
44:36
coexistence with Israel 86% are committed to the restoration of
44:41
historical Palestine which means the elimination of Israel as a
44:45
final solution. 71% they support the creation of a Palestinian
44:49
state from the river to the sea, the annihilation of Israel 75%
44:54
as the end of the Israeli Palestinian conflict, these are
44:57
Palestinians who were surveyed in Gaza. in Judea and Samaria,
45:01
they said the Palestinian positive perception of terror
45:04
organizations remains high. Despite the role in carrying out
45:08
the massacre and disastrous results. 76 believed that Hamas
45:12
plays a somewhat the very positive role. 84% believe that
45:16
the Palestinian Islamic Jihad plays a summit a very positive
45:20
role. 80% believe that Fatah's terror when they are Aqsa
45:24
martyrs, brigades plays a somewhat a very positive role.
45:28
And 88.6% believe that Hamas is armed wing, the Al Hassan
45:33
brigades plays a somewhat a very positive function. So why did
45:37
the media keep telling us there's this tremendous
45:39
distinction, this great distance between Hamas and other
45:44
terrorist groups? And the people who elect them and support them?
45:47
Why did they keep telling us that you were allowed to lie, we
45:50
know that not only do the vast majority of people in Gaza, and
45:55
on the Westbank support the Hamas atrocities in Gaza, many
45:59
of them helped it. Remember when Hamas broke through the fence
46:03
and start killing Israelis. Gazan civilians followed them.
46:08
They participated in the rapes, the beheadings, the murders,
46:11
Gaza, balls, help them by having tunnels under their homes, by
46:17
having command centers by having rockets being fired from schools
46:23
and from mosques. So look, we all have to be sympathetic to
46:27
the babies and the children who are used as human shields, by
46:30
the way by Hamas, and every single one of these babies who
46:33
were killed is the responsibility of Hamas. But I'm
46:36
far less sympathetic to the adults who aggressively support
46:41
Hamas. You know, if they were in America, they'd be tried for
46:43
crimes because you can't, under American law, provide material
46:47
support for a terrorist group. And these Gazans are providing
46:51
material support for Hamas, which is a terrorist group.
46:55
Adam Curry: Alright, so I'm, I'm obviously on board with your
46:58
with your thesis, it's a long standing no agenda thesis. Do
47:02
you think that this is intended just to create a state of fear a
47:07
is a tension strategy amongst the United States and and
47:11
Western Europe?
47:14
John C Dvorak: Well, I think, as well, as this continues, I have
47:18
maybe history more clips. Add to this. So it's a known fact, at
47:24
least has been a known fact. And as discussed in some forums here
47:28
and there, that there's 1.4 trillion cubic feet of gas,
47:34
right under Gaza. There's one point or it's over 3 billion
47:39
barrels of oil right off the coast at Gaza. They are they
47:43
have I think that this was a deal where they decided some
47:46
time ago, they're going to let them develop this the they cut
47:51
Gaza loose, there's not an occupied territory, the Israelis
47:54
left it and left it to the to the Palestinians to develop and
48:00
do their own thing, and then maybe do some split deals, maybe
48:03
who knows what, but that was going to be a developed oil
48:05
field and gas field. And they bet they dropped the ball, they
48:10
didn't do their job, and now they're going to be rousted out
48:14
of Gaza, they're just going to get rid of all the Palestinians,
48:17
let's put shit like this in disgust, the fact that the
48:21
Palestinians are bad people, which is what you just heard in
48:24
that clip, and who cares what happens to them, and we're going
48:28
to hear more and more of this kind of thing. It's going to be
48:30
slanted that way. So we can get to those gas and oil wells, when
48:35
in fact, we have to always remember a couple of things that
48:38
in the background is that Biden and the Democrats are phonies.
48:42
And the Democrats in particular is like the string people along
48:46
like they've done with the black population in this country and
48:49
promising him stuff and they're doing with the
48:51
environmentalists, as the Biden administration has more has done
48:56
more for the oil business than Trump ever would do. It just
49:00
look at the price of Exxon stock from the day that Biden got in
49:04
we are pumping more oil than ever before the whole Burisma
49:08
things and oil thing everything Why is when people say why the
49:12
crude oil prices they haven't done anything with this Middle
49:15
East action they usually go up no they have gone down because
49:19
we are going to pump more oil out of this area. This is about
49:23
oil we're going to rouse these Palestinians their hell with
49:27
them. Get them out of there if you they won't pump the oil
49:30
because you're too stupid. We'll do it John cedars bore access
49:35
Eva today.
49:37
Adam Curry: It's been a while been a while. Well, this
49:40
explains why they can't bomb them. We can't really bomb it.
49:43
That wouldn't be no good. And that may also explain why these
49:47
Hamas guys are in Qatar. They know a bit about gas and oil.
49:53
Yep.
49:54
John C Dvorak: Hmm. Okay. Yep, perfect. Qatar probably has
49:57
dropped the ball in his deal to somebody dropped the ball
49:59
somewhere. Because this, these oil fields are known, especially
50:02
the gas, the gas field underneath the Gaza itself,
50:06
let's go to clip three. And
50:07
Unknown: as I say, it's coming to America, it's coming to
50:10
Europe, Hamas is not going to stop. If it prevails in the
50:14
Middle East, it's going to continue just the way al Qaeda
50:17
and other groups have continuous we have to stop it in the
50:21
interests of America. And
50:23
Adam Curry: when I say bomber I mean like big bombs, like mother
50:25
of all bombs, like bombs to exterminate. No,
50:29
John C Dvorak: you can't do that. You can't do that. You
50:30
just got to rouse them, you got to clear them. And here's the
50:34
clip for and
50:35
Unknown: Israel should be a bipartisan issue. All sides
50:38
should support Israel without regard to what parties they
50:42
belong to. And there's been a rise in popularity of Hamas in
50:45
the United States as well. On October 8, the day after these
50:50
horrors that occurred on September 7, students at Harvard
50:54
supported Hamas, the National Lawyers Guild supported Hamas. I
50:58
document all of this. I wrote a book right after the events that
51:01
question I started writing it on October 7, World War against the
51:05
Jews. And in it, I document how increased support for Hamas
51:10
occurred among the hard left, the hard left has become the
51:14
enemy of justice, of decency of academia. And we have to
51:19
continue our fight not only against Hamas, but against Hamas
51:23
supporters in the United States that can become easily a fifth
51:27
column. Remember, in the 1970s, the weatherman started blowing
51:32
up universities trying to blow up Fort Dix, that's going to
51:37
happen here. We have a fifth column of hard left Hamas
51:41
supporters, many of them Muslim, many of them not Muslim, many of
51:45
them hard left, kids are friends, children are marching
51:49
with Hamas. And that's why it's so dangerous to Americans and to
51:53
the world and why we have to fight back idiotically, we have
51:57
a combination on our college campuses and beyond of an
52:00
Islamist and a Marxist ideology, because they both support the
52:04
same thing the destruction of the Enlightenment, the
52:07
destruction of Western culture, and that and they are genocidal
52:11
your book the war against the Jews how to end Hamas barbarism.
52:15
Let me tell you what's fascinating about your book,
52:16
among other things, how you wrote it as quickly as it did
52:20
how you got to publish as quickly as you did. And it's not
52:23
only question it's up to date on everything that's going on in
52:26
this country, which is why I wanted to have you on you can
52:28
get this on amazon.com Any major bookstore
52:32
Adam Curry: Wow. So he bang that out in two months and
52:37
John C Dvorak: published and anyone who's ever been in the
52:39
publishing business knows now No, no, that's that's not even
52:44
close to being possible. Okay, saying that out and has edited
52:50
copy edited design types of everything published in in 60
52:56
days. Now the other thing which is just a little sidelight here,
52:59
which I'm starting to notice and you start thinking about this is
53:03
just an oil play. And you start looking back at all the
53:06
complaining all the this fear mongering about all this
53:09
southern border, Hamas is coming up the southern border, no
53:12
Hamas? No, they, you know, they've gone from this to bid
53:15
operation in Gaza, to this world threat overnight, and we just
53:21
lap it up. And both sides, especially the right the right
53:24
wingers lack this stuff. Yep. But here's the thing that's been
53:28
going on because I caught two of these and I have one of them. I
53:32
clipped one of them. And this is the Kubo version I the first one
53:38
I heard which I didn't clip which was on the Piers Morgan
53:41
show. And one of his correspondents was pretty much
53:44
saying what Cuomo is saying here about they're starting to show
53:49
sin tapes of the atrocities.
53:53
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. No, I'm,
53:55
John C Dvorak: I'm very concerned about this. Because of
53:58
the, of the Wag the Dog idea. Show is day one. It's
54:05
Adam Curry: not an idea. It's a plan. Two
54:07
John C Dvorak: and a half months after the event. Two and a half
54:11
months is a lot of time to do whatever you want to do. You can
54:15
you can fake a moon landing.
54:18
Adam Curry: Two and a half months now you're talking.
54:21
Welcome to the dark
54:22
John C Dvorak: side. I live in New York. So you put up with
54:24
these clips. So let's let's listen to Hamas Cuomo,
54:30
Revelation. Today
54:32
Unknown: has been a heavy day around here. Why? Well, many of
54:36
us have seen portions of video of the October 7 massacre. What
54:41
Hamas terrorists did, mostly to innocent Israel,
54:44
Adam Curry: is he going to mention that that this was what
54:46
the IDF compiled and they showed it to the international news
54:51
media in a theater for 45 minutes they showed that and
54:55
this is an you know, I'm really starting to think you're onto
54:58
something here because The thing that I noticed immediately it's
55:02
all body cam. It's all first person shooter like stuff. It's
55:08
all it's all, you know, which is easy to intermingle with, with,
55:11
with game footage.
55:13
Unknown: But there are things that you have not seen because
55:16
they were never posted or made public. And the reality of them
55:22
hits hard.
55:23
Adam Curry: Oh, tell me, he saw the chopping off baby's heads
55:27
Unknown: very hard. I know, because I was shown a good
55:32
amount of it today. 47 minutes. That's worth it. That's a lot of
55:37
one type of terror footage. And I now understand something that
55:41
Hamas was doing and that Israel is responding to, that I did not
55:46
fully appreciate before. Now, I still think you should see what
55:53
I saw. But to be honest, the shock of today is a little
55:57
fresh. And I'm not as adamant about that, as I was before I
56:02
went to the viewing. So I'll try to convey what hit me about it.
56:07
And at some point, it's always better if you get to see and
56:11
decide for yourself. All right. But what I'm going to talk to
56:14
you about is going to inform why Israel is not anxious to agree
56:20
to what seems obvious to many, including the United States, its
56:23
most powerful, influential ally, the bombing has to stop and
56:29
before the end of the year, that's what President Biden is
56:32
saying suggesting deadlines and clearly criticizing Israel's
56:37
tactics. And it is raising a question Could the United States
56:42
withdraw support from its main ally in the Middle East?
56:48
Adam Curry: I'm always surprised how we as humans can put
56:53
different levels of of death into like this is worst death
56:59
and that death Yes, I know. We know where the with the bomb
57:02
someone to death or chop their head off to death or burn them
57:06
to death. It's death. Now it's just it's it's death. It's it's,
57:12
it's not cool, no matter what. But this is where we work on the
57:17
psyche of people. And the 47 minutes, I believe is the entire
57:21
idea of Compendium,
57:23
John C Dvorak: I think it is. But you don't even know if it's
57:25
the same one because they're showing it again to certain
57:29
certain select journalists.
57:31
Adam Curry: I mean, is this any different from anything we've
57:33
already seen on telegram? Is it all of that stuff? I
57:37
John C Dvorak: don't know. I haven't I have no idea. All I
57:39
know is that we're that this whole thing looks like we're
57:43
being played and we're being paid by both sides. And the oil
57:47
companies are somehow involved and the middle that's all I can
57:51
conclude Yeah. And and they're good at it and these protests
57:56
you have to wonder what's really triggering those whose is it
58:00
environmental groups is is
58:03
Adam Curry: now you're into my territory? Well, I
58:05
John C Dvorak: have some some protests. There's protest. I
58:08
have protests clips from South Africa. They're protesting in
58:11
Pakistan. They're they're protesting everywhere for no
58:16
reason. Allow me to why are they protesting this? This fellas
58:20
Danian situation in South Africa. Allow
58:24
Adam Curry: me to start with some political protests. As we
58:28
saw the trade unions in America come together the UAE w the
58:33
United Auto Workers who had a very successful strike I would
58:38
say against the car manufacturers.
58:41
John C Dvorak: And yeah, if you want to lose your job, and the
58:45
Adam Curry: UAE w the United electrical workers, and they had
58:50
their statement,
58:51
Unknown: the world seen enough slaughter and devastation.
58:55
John C Dvorak: Wait a second. I just want to stop you there. The
58:59
white workers did at that day you electrical workers are the
59:01
IBEW Who are these guys?
59:04
Adam Curry: I don't know. I said. I see you ew. Let me say
59:07
you w maybe let's make sure I'm right. You ew. You told me was
59:16
the UW W. University of Education when a Toba no maybe I
59:29
should add union I'm just doing book of knowledge here. Let's
59:33
see you Aw. Oh, it's interesting. doesn't even exist
59:40
at the video literally had you ew. And said United electrical
59:46
workers.
59:47
John C Dvorak: Your I don't know such. Yeah, it was actually a
59:50
short met for a very short time was a member of the IBEW and
59:53
that's a very famous huge union for electrical workers.
59:58
Adam Curry: United electrical radio machine Workers that's
1:00:00
what that's what you're talking about right?
1:00:03
John C Dvorak: With the IBEW International Brotherhood of
1:00:06
Electrical organise electricians out here
1:00:08
Adam Curry: I have united electrical. That's the UAE? I
1:00:14
don't know, I'll have to go. But it was it was this clip is from
1:00:17
Turkish Radio Television. So take it with that grain of salt.
1:00:21
But these are union people who are in America. I'm pretty sure
1:00:24
that's correct. The world
1:00:26
Unknown: seen enough slaughter and devastation. These is the
1:00:31
only path forward. This
1:00:33
is the time for workers to leverage our labor power and
1:00:35
electoral power sustained an uncompromising solidarity with
1:00:38
the cost of Palestinian freedom. While we
1:00:41
call for a ceasefire. We also condemn anti semitism,
1:00:47
Islamophobia, anti Arab racism, all of which are growing in our
1:00:54
nation at this moment and must be stopped. Right?
1:00:57
The right wing government is taking the lasting trauma of
1:01:02
Israeli Jews from the Holocaust as great as using it to
1:01:06
traumatize generations of Palestinians. Trauma will
1:01:10
inevitably result in the new generation of resistance sack
1:01:15
the patient. We can't accept that. Now. That
1:01:17
Adam Curry: guy sounds like a union worker. I like that guy.
1:01:19
John C Dvorak: That guy was good. Yeah, he does. So
1:01:23
Adam Curry: that but union workers, we know that we know
1:01:26
who backs them. This is all political. This one though, was
1:01:29
kind of surprising. This is the Google employees.
1:01:32
Unknown: I am here in opposition to Israel's system of apartheid
1:01:36
that curtails Palestinian rights and ends Palestinian lives, a
1:01:40
system that my employer materially supports through its
1:01:44
involvement with Project Nimbus, drop the project.
1:01:59
Adam Curry: So that was big, it was a very big protest at
1:02:02
Google. And they're protesting project Nimbus, which I looked
1:02:07
up, which is a cloud computing project of the Israeli
1:02:11
government. This is what Google does. They do cloud computing.
1:02:17
Yet. That's the basic thing. Yeah, they're basically saying,
1:02:21
don't do business for Israel, which I found to be quite
1:02:25
surprising, then we have and then you know, after these two,
1:02:29
which is
1:02:29
John C Dvorak: weird, because Israel is also we should always
1:02:31
remember that Israel is a tech hub for the United States. It's
1:02:36
one of our development areas, especially in Haifa. Oh, yeah.
1:02:39
It's I mean, Intel, I'd say most of their processors or every
1:02:44
other processors designed from Israel In Israel. Good point
1:02:48
Adam Curry: have we're gonna ban Intel machines due to Intel
1:02:52
outside watch. Now, hey, Netanyahu, he's this is this is
1:03:00
very political. He's got all the protests happening in his front
1:03:03
yard.
1:03:04
Unknown: Israel's military says that has accidentally killed
1:03:07
three of the hostages kidnapped by Hamas during its October 7
1:03:11
terror attacks. The three Israelis were reportedly shot
1:03:14
after being mistaking as the threat by soldiers pursuing
1:03:18
Palestinian militants in Gaza City. the loved ones of those
1:03:22
kidnapped are demanding immediate return of the
1:03:24
remaining hostages, and say their safety must be prioritized
1:03:29
over the fighting.
1:03:32
News of the hostage killings galvanized demonstrators in Tel
1:03:37
Aviv. roads were blocked as hundreds demanded the safe
1:03:41
return of those still in Gaza. 10 weeks after they were
1:03:45
kidnapped. Much of the anger directed at Israel's Prime
1:03:50
Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu
1:03:55
will say that he went he's responsible for everything that
1:03:58
is happening, that happened and anything happening. He has
1:04:02
blocked a lot of blood on an issue to resign. Now, there
1:04:07
Adam Curry: you go. They're calling for his head. He must
1:04:09
resign. It's all his fault, and he has a response. His response
1:04:14
is a giant clock. Israeli
1:04:16
Unknown: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that the
1:04:18
relentless bombing campaign could help push them off back to
1:04:22
the negotiating table, a possibility he revealed as the
1:04:26
head of the Israeli spy agency has been in talks with the Prime
1:04:30
Minister of Qatar.
1:04:33
Adam Curry: Without the military pressure, we would not have been
1:04:35
able to create a deal to release more than 100 hostages and only
1:04:39
further military pressure will lead to the return of all of our
1:04:43
hostages.
1:04:44
Unknown: Netanyahu said the accidental killings of three
1:04:47
Israeli hostages by the military, even as they had been
1:04:51
waving a white flag broke his heart and the nation's hearts.
1:04:55
But he committed to the military campaign in Gaza until he said
1:04:59
Hamas Ross was dismantled in Tel Aviv as the large clock
1:05:03
continues to count the seconds. Since the hostages were taken by
1:05:07
Hamas on October 7, families turned up the heat on the
1:05:11
government to get hostage talks back on track. And a senior
1:05:15
member of Hamas weighed in saying the three hostage deaths
1:05:19
at the hands of the Israeli military proved Israel's
1:05:22
campaign was a strategic and technical failure. I
1:05:27
tell those Israeli prisoners relatives who set a clock in Tel
1:05:30
Aviv counting the time until their loved ones come back. This
1:05:34
clock of yours could go forever. If the Israeli one want the
1:05:38
hostages and the prisoners to come back alive, this won't
1:05:41
happen unless there is a complete cessation of Israeli
1:05:44
aggression.
1:05:45
Adam Curry: There you go. Big clock. Big clock that'll
1:05:49
John C Dvorak: show you. She brought up the hostages that
1:05:51
were shot. I have this funny clip from our tea. Only a few of
1:05:57
these outlets, I would say democracy now RT and the others
1:06:00
discussed the details of these guys getting a shot. This clip
1:06:06
as hostages shot
1:06:09
Adam Curry: seems clear enough reported
1:06:11
Unknown: details from the ideas investigation have sparked a
1:06:14
wave of discontent in Tel Aviv with new intensity. They say
1:06:18
that the hostages who were killed were actually waving a
1:06:21
makeshift white flag. In the later comments. The IDF was
1:06:25
quoted as saying that Hamas militants have previously used
1:06:29
white flags to the Israeli soldiers into ambushes. But one
1:06:33
of the killed hostages was reportedly shouting for help in
1:06:36
Hebrew, right before he was shot dead. The IDF spokesman or
1:06:41
spokesperson says that the army identified them as a threat.
1:06:44
While Israel's Army Chief of General Staff stated that the
1:06:47
troops are responsible.
1:06:50
Now, firing at the hostages was against the Army's instructions
1:06:54
for opening fire. It is prohibited to shoot at people
1:06:57
holding a white flag and attempting to surrender. But the
1:07:00
shooting was done during fighting and under pressure.
1:07:03
The patience of the relatives of the families of the hostages are
1:07:08
ending they demand the Israeli government now to do more. And
1:07:13
they are saying that Israeli prime minister and his war
1:07:16
cabinet are not committed enough. And it is not their
1:07:20
first priority to bring back the hostages about 130 Israeli field
1:07:26
the captivity of the terrorists have cameras, and some of them
1:07:30
are elderly, women, children and their relatives of those sons,
1:07:35
the Jets. You know,
1:07:38
Adam Curry: cut that off. Let me just say one thing, your
1:07:42
assertion here about the oil and gas I would have said yeah,
1:07:47
maybe because you know there's a lot offshore Lebanon, we know
1:07:50
about the Leviathan field we know that Israel had a beer but
1:07:53
that's north now. I know. Bear with me. I'm with the I'm
1:07:56
agreeing with you. The reason why I think you're really onto
1:07:59
something is because you and and Horowitz you track these prices
1:08:04
and everything we've seen in the past when there was a Middle
1:08:07
East skirmish, oil prices go up? And it's just not the case.
1:08:13
John C Dvorak: That's going down. Yes. So actually going way
1:08:16
down,
1:08:17
Adam Curry: that means that there is knowledge, there is
1:08:20
knowledge that this is all for good. And how much longer do
1:08:23
they have to bomb before this? Just nobody left? I don't think
1:08:26
it can be that much longer. No,
1:08:28
John C Dvorak: this is the tough part. But I'm gonna go back to
1:08:30
that clip I just played. So in other reports that these guys
1:08:34
came out shirtless, waving a white flag. And now and then the
1:08:40
report in that article was interesting, because they said,
1:08:42
well, that white flight doesn't mean that much because they've
1:08:44
been they've been ambushed numerous times by Hamas guys
1:08:48
waving a white flag and then they get ambushed. Isn't that a
1:08:52
war crime? Isn't that a war crime? And the other thing is
1:08:56
that walking around in civilian without even having uniforms
1:09:00
just as a military group amongst civilians pretending to be
1:09:04
civilians, isn't that a war crime? I
1:09:06
Adam Curry: love rules of war that
1:09:09
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying they always bring it up that
1:09:11
this this is a war crime. That's a war crime. This is a war but
1:09:15
they never bring this stuff up when it comes to Hamas. They
1:09:18
never said that committing war crimes. Who was that? They
1:09:21
talked about? massacres a massacre who's they who's they?
1:09:26
The mainstream media? Oh, okay. And in fact, I would say there
1:09:30
are T rushing media which is part of the mainstream media
1:09:33
Adam Curry: my opinion this makes no sense. So the media
1:09:37
which we know is run by Jews, they're not bringing that up.
1:09:41
Just the
1:09:41
John C Dvorak: media's yeah the joke is is what what kind of
1:09:44
Jews are running the media
1:09:45
Adam Curry: if they're not bringing it up?
1:09:47
John C Dvorak: There's a bunch of this is there's too many
1:09:50
anomalies it's it's rife. And so I'm more every time and it these
1:09:55
these contradictory issues, like not saying you know, we can't
1:09:59
get confirm it. But we can't we will confirm this, we won't
1:10:02
confirm that the everything is stinks to high heaven. We're
1:10:07
Adam Curry: also missing a lot of key elements of, of
1:10:11
traditional war crimes. We're missing the Captagon. What is
1:10:16
it? What is the what is the cheap meth drug? We haven't had,
1:10:21
we haven't had Hamas taken that we haven't had them taking
1:10:25
Viagra to rape. We're missing some key elements that are
1:10:29
typical for this type of operation. So this is different.
1:10:34
John C Dvorak: Now that we're going to talk about gas fields,
1:10:39
who are the people that will be vying for control of these gas
1:10:42
fields? And that's I think, is boo who's behind who's who's
1:10:47
behind the protests. He's left wing protests. I think Russia
1:10:50
has got something to do with this. Because Putin just did
1:10:54
his. And I'm gonna say that for this reason, this is just a this
1:10:58
is a stretch, and I can't prove a word of it of a supposition
1:11:01
like this. But Putin just did his 10 and 10 hour long is
1:11:05
classic press Show, none of this came up. That I know of. And it
1:11:15
it just seems that this is something he could Scheid people
1:11:17
will all you know, they're just after the oil and gas. I think
1:11:20
they've got a lot to do with this. And all these Palestinian
1:11:23
protests in United States here and everybody falling in line,
1:11:27
and all these flags who's making these flags? I mean, the whole
1:11:30
thing is, is if just if that's true, it stinks. If
1:11:34
Adam Curry: that's true, if that's true, me as part of the
1:11:38
end times and revelation, if Russia is literally involved in
1:11:42
this, that's bad. That's really bad. That's the one thing you
1:11:47
don't want to see. Is Russia being involved in this one?
1:11:51
John C Dvorak: This biblical is the gas of 1.4 trillion cubic
1:11:59
feet of natural gas under Gaza, not in the ocean, the Royals in
1:12:05
the ocean, the gases right there. Can
1:12:08
Adam Curry: you side drill? Do you need to have do you need to
1:12:11
go straight down? Can't you just sit on the sidelines and drill
1:12:14
from the side?
1:12:16
John C Dvorak: There's, there's, there's a bunch of international
1:12:19
law about that.
1:12:20
Adam Curry: Oh, we're back to law. By the way.
1:12:25
John C Dvorak: These these, this 1.4 trillion cubic feet. This is
1:12:28
why this thing has been dragging on so long. It was in 2000 that
1:12:32
two wells drilled by British Gas discovered the there's a reserve
1:12:38
of 1.4 trillion cubic feet of natural gas under there.
1:12:43
Adam Curry: All right, well, so this would be the reason why we
1:12:47
need to kill carefully, carefully, let's slow down is
1:12:53
John C Dvorak: to rush them. They started at the north. And
1:12:55
so you gotta get out of here and they moved because there's
1:12:57
tunnels. You gotta go gotta get it out of there. Because the
1:13:00
tunnels there's all this all these command centers under the
1:13:04
hospitals get out. So they moved him south and they start bombing
1:13:07
they're trying to get them out. And they're trying to get Egypt
1:13:10
to accept them each it's got to be part of this deal.
1:13:13
Adam Curry: Well, but they're not Egypt has it has the border
1:13:15
closed and deload Egypt has
1:13:17
John C Dvorak: said no, we got nothing to do with this right.
1:13:19
But that the public at large doesn't know what the hell's
1:13:22
going on. This whole thing stinks. Wow.
1:13:29
Adam Curry: All right. Well, I think you've covered it.
1:13:33
John C Dvorak: No, maybe I think you have I think I think I do
1:13:36
want to play one more this these clips from South Africa. I just
1:13:39
think that too funny. Okay. Is Israeli South Africa protests.
1:13:46
Unknown: And in South Africa reconciliation day has taken on
1:13:49
a new form as hundreds they're also gathered for a pro
1:13:53
Palestine March, knowing firsthand what genocide and
1:13:57
forced displacement looks like. local journalists. katlego Sami
1:14:02
told us more on this in this report.
1:14:04
Adam Curry: Well, this doesn't make much sense in if Russia is
1:14:07
in on it.
1:14:10
John C Dvorak: I believe me none of it makes sense. But I'm just
1:14:13
That's why I can't prove anything about the Russians. But
1:14:16
this this idea that this is this is part of the fine I'm not
1:14:19
mistaken. This wasn't South Africa pop up first populated by
1:14:23
the Afrikaners out of Holland and there was nothing there
1:14:27
except a few band twos there was really no force there was no
1:14:31
genocide or forced evacuations back in the whenever that year
1:14:36
Adam Curry: was irrelevant colonialism. That's what it is
1:14:39
colonialism and so
1:14:40
John C Dvorak: they just got it so we were lying a new history
1:14:43
is we're managing to do with these with these protests and,
1:14:46
and South Africa. protesting about Palestine is ludicrous,
1:14:51
but okay, if I don't really want to play anymore the clip Oh
1:14:55
goodness. You're done mad,
1:14:57
Adam Curry: you're mad. All right. Well, then let's You
1:15:00
bring it stateside for a moment. Because we are ratcheting up
1:15:04
tension. We are and it's all political. Obviously. We just
1:15:10
had the Obama connected movie about the cyber attack. The
1:15:16
hackers were all going to die throwing some racial stuff. But
1:15:21
now the M five M is coming out with a new one. Because we of
1:15:26
course now need to talk about civil war. And I can I can tell
1:15:31
you that there's not going to be a civil war in America just
1:15:37
isn't. Do you have any feeling there's going to be an all out
1:15:40
Civil War I've ever ever consider that that there's even
1:15:44
an inkling of that happening.
1:15:46
John C Dvorak: No, that's it's obvious talking point from the
1:15:50
from the mainstream and Fox talking heads that have to talk
1:15:54
about something and this is pretty exciting. And I'm
1:15:57
Adam Curry: going to add to that. One of the info Mavericks,
1:16:01
the new M five M I'm calling Tim Poole out is that so there's a
1:16:06
new movie, you might have seen the trailer it's called
1:16:08
John C Dvorak: Civil War he has called Civil War. I've seen the
1:16:11
trailer Yes. 15
1:16:12
Adam Curry: states secede from the Union and create an army and
1:16:15
they go to And funny enough, it's Texas and California.
1:16:18
Because now of course,
1:16:19
John C Dvorak: yeah, we love it. In fact, I think I think that's
1:16:24
the code that is not even within the realm of possibilities now,
1:16:30
but do you do that as as a wink wink, nudge nudge to the people
1:16:34
that are laughing up their sleeves about this movie? Yes.
1:16:37
Adam Curry: But Tim Poole is all in on it. And he's a part of it.
1:16:40
It's
1:16:40
Unknown: the moment you've all been waiting for news.
1:16:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah. They're playing it Tim Poole clip I
1:16:47
Adam Curry: am because he's part of this new info Maverick
1:16:51
elites. He's a part of it. And he's proud of it hates
1:16:55
Unknown: the moment you've all been waiting for news dropped,
1:16:58
the new film is coming out in 2024. Called civil war. And what
1:17:03
is it about? Oh, man, you better believe I'm excited. It is a
1:17:07
film about a civil war in the United States. And I gotta say,
1:17:11
based on the trailer, I'm gonna go man, it is funny that this
1:17:15
trailer drops and I get all these people tweeting at me
1:17:17
being like Tim Poole, what do you think? Yo, let me start by
1:17:21
saying this. The reason the movie exists has nothing to do
1:17:25
with me. The reason I talk about Civil War is the same reason
1:17:29
someone made a movie about it. It's the same reason Stephen
1:17:32
Marsh wrote a book about it. It's the same reason why
1:17:36
numerous news outlets have written the same thing. We're
1:17:40
all looking at an ever expanding culture war, division among
1:17:45
states, and many people advocating for national divorce,
1:17:48
including elected members of Congress. So you may watch my
1:17:53
show. And think Tim Poole talks about this a lot. But I gotta be
1:17:57
honest, I probably talk about it less than many in the corporate
1:18:01
press. As a large brand. Several of these new news outlets have
1:18:04
way more articles about civil war than videos I produce. I'm a
1:18:07
single, I'm a single person. But if you only watch my show, or
1:18:11
you mostly watch it, you'll see stories about Civil War pop up
1:18:14
or the conversation happen. Somebody invested a lot of money
1:18:18
into making a movie about Civil War, why it's on the American
1:18:22
mind. It's in the media, no books, it's coming from the
1:18:25
mouths of Princeton professors. And that resulted in me saying
1:18:30
Hey, guys, I think this might be right. Bullshit. Get
1:18:35
Adam Curry: out of town. Can
1:18:36
John C Dvorak: I mention something he did it Cuomo does
1:18:39
to bromo did it he just did it? Where you ask a question and
1:18:43
throw the word why Yeah.
1:18:46
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, they all do that. They all do
1:18:49
John C Dvorak: your you say well, do you what do you think
1:18:52
this is a why? You know, you should make a statement as to
1:18:54
why and you say why? And then you answer the question you ask
1:18:58
yourself. You may lame.
1:19:03
Adam Curry: I like you may only watch my show. Come on. That was
1:19:09
good.
1:19:10
John C Dvorak: I like that. Well, he's he knows how to
1:19:12
promote Well, yeah. Sound Do
1:19:16
Adam Curry: you like his sound?
1:19:18
John C Dvorak: I do. I think it has a certain clarity. It's not
1:19:20
like your sound. But I think he's got it. I think his sound
1:19:24
is heathen. I really like his sound. I think he's got a nice
1:19:29
sound for his voice. I think it I should say
1:19:34
Adam Curry: I Yeah, you didn't have to say it at all. Really?
1:19:37
John C Dvorak: I didn't. You're right. completely
1:19:39
Adam Curry: unnecessary. Reflect up
1:19:40
John C Dvorak: on that play the clip. Do you deserve it?
1:19:45
Adam Curry: But this is this is what's not good for anybody.
1:19:48
This is the new the new mainstream is starting to show
1:19:53
itself. And it's like Twitter talking. It's led you know where
1:19:59
the the The old mainstream has New York Times and The New
1:20:03
mainstream the has Elon Musk basically and whatever he wants
1:20:10
to have happen on x and n it there's a lot it's dumb there's
1:20:15
a lot of Dominus flooding through and people are thinking
1:20:17
this is great freedom of speech these people they know what
1:20:20
they're talking about yes of a war no no no no you're being
1:20:26
played here at Temple may not be not not a conscious participant
1:20:30
probably. But it's just this it's wrong
1:20:37
John C Dvorak: lot of these guys are getting a memo and you know
1:20:40
okay do this do that. Oh no, no like the script. Get a script
1:20:43
kiddies are the kiddies but I think the script readers on the
1:20:48
mainstream it's
1:20:49
Adam Curry: you know, I'm gonna go back and say it again with
1:20:51
the New York Times was doing and still does four mainstream M
1:20:55
five M That's what x and Musk is doing for this new these info
1:21:02
mavericks and it's not healthy. And I'm and we have to we have
1:21:09
to go against we got to call them out, man. Call them out.
1:21:13
Gotta call them out. We got to do a meanwhile, I will say that
1:21:19
the best news that came off of x which of course we've got all
1:21:23
the videos on x for this one. This is just mind boggling.
1:21:27
Unknown: You attend the United States Senate is being rocked by
1:21:30
a sec scandal. US Capitol Police are investigating after a sex
1:21:34
tape surfaced online. It showed two men engaged in sex acts
1:21:38
inside room 216 of the hair Senate office building that's a
1:21:43
famous hearing room where US senators have grilled high
1:21:47
profile presidential nominees. By the way.
1:21:49
Adam Curry: I like your script very funny. Grilled very funny
1:21:52
with senators have grilled high
1:21:54
Unknown: profile presidential nominees, including Supreme
1:21:57
Court justices. It's unclear if the tape will be considered
1:22:01
criminal conduct but it may have violated Senate ethics rules.
1:22:07
Adam Curry: I mean, this was disgusting. And they just posted
1:22:11
everywhere. What is what is going on? Does this happen?
1:22:18
John C Dvorak: It's just the funniest thing I've seen for a
1:22:21
while. And it is disgusting. And the one guy looks identifiable.
1:22:29
Adam Curry: Oh no, we everyone knows who he is. He's he's known
1:22:32
now.
1:22:33
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, who is he? Oh, I
1:22:34
Adam Curry: haven't even I didn't even write it down. Are
1:22:37
you kidding me? Kidding me? I'm not gonna write that down. He's
1:22:40
and they know who's is from a Democrat senators office. He's a
1:22:44
staffer. There's another picture of him on whatever gay sex
1:22:49
website and he's naked in what he calls the work showers with
1:22:54
his butt in the air and he says I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham
1:23:02
so I don't know if this is some this is some very deep op that
1:23:07
something
1:23:07
John C Dvorak: going on? We don't know what it is. We'll
1:23:09
figure it out if it continues because these things are not not
1:23:14
that complicated.
1:23:15
Adam Curry: So me what you were talking about Taylor Swift. I
1:23:17
hate to say it but now back to real. Taylor Swift the OP
1:23:23
continues
1:23:24
Unknown: a resolution recognizing the year 2023 as the
1:23:27
Taylor Swift era in Pennsylvania. Will the
1:23:30
House agree to the resolution? House resolutions are not
1:23:34
legislation and their consideration should not be a
1:23:39
function of our government. I urge a no vote on this
1:23:43
resolution and suggest we get back to actually governing Thank
1:23:47
you Madam Speaker.
1:23:51
Members information. House resolutions are legislation and
1:23:57
apparently the haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate.
1:24:01
So I rise to wish Taylor Swift and all my birthday twins a very
1:24:06
happy birthday, especially representatives mad and in
1:24:09
major. I know I have had the best day with you. And I don't
1:24:13
know how it gets better than this. Everyone's standing around
1:24:16
us singing Happy Birthday to you. This resolution is a love
1:24:19
story. So baby, let's just say Yes.
1:24:24
Clerk over core the vote on the resolution. The yeas are 103,
1:24:28
the nays are 100.
1:24:30
Adam Curry: The resolution is adaptive. Fantastic. fantasise
1:24:35
Pennsylvania we
1:24:36
John C Dvorak: should mention that we spotted the Taylor Swift
1:24:39
up
1:24:40
Adam Curry: in 2009
1:24:44
John C Dvorak: or before today, I do have clips came out of
1:24:48
this. She was being highlighted as a superstar back in 2008,
1:24:54
maybe
1:24:54
Adam Curry: 2008 When we had
1:24:56
John C Dvorak: some clips of her you know they they're talking
1:24:59
about her she's just a He had I think he's just 17 at the time
1:25:01
noodle and she's the next big thing. And she was she was
1:25:05
talking to the band about doodling doodling midday to doo
1:25:08
doo doo. And she was showing them how to put together songs
1:25:11
we have the clip somewhere, I don't know where they where they
1:25:13
are. And
1:25:15
Adam Curry: these are music works. Okay, so I know a little
1:25:18
bit about how music and the business works. And her music
1:25:22
is, but you can't sing but five of her songs, I'm not talking
1:25:25
about the Swifties who are all in and completely mind
1:25:28
controlled. Because that's what it is. But these work at a at a
1:25:33
psychological level. As you mentioned earlier, four chords
1:25:36
it's I mean, you could these are all riffs and songs that have
1:25:41
been done before it's hits. As long as you repeat a song over
1:25:45
and over again, it becomes a hit. That's just how it works.
1:25:48
As long as as long as it's not off key and junk. You can make
1:25:52
anything a hit as long as you repeat it. And Spotify is algos
1:25:57
being everything, it's all and she'll be unleashed. The Op has
1:26:00
not yet been unleashed. But it will be and it will be for the
1:26:04
2024 election. I
1:26:07
John C Dvorak: was kind of skeptical that thesis at the at
1:26:10
the start. But after listening to this guy, discuss your music
1:26:15
and some other things that are going on, including your being
1:26:18
Man of the Year for Time magazine, I use that term
1:26:21
because that's what it was originally.
1:26:23
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a lot of people out there saying that
1:26:25
Taylor Swift is a man, which is a funny meme. Yeah,
1:26:28
John C Dvorak: I don't buy
1:26:30
Adam Curry: into it either. And please don't email me, don't
1:26:34
email me with your proof finish.
1:26:38
John C Dvorak: And, but the but this has been going on for a
1:26:41
long time. And she has been. And he has concerts and the vendor
1:26:48
and then meet up with Jason Kelsey, or Travis Kelsey. Sorry.
1:26:55
Adam Curry: From now on, known as Jason Kelsey.
1:26:57
John C Dvorak: But he could be Jason. I think Jason's his
1:26:59
brother, so that might not work out.
1:27:02
Adam Curry: But this is nothing new artists have been abused for
1:27:06
political reasons forever. Forever. And Hillary the last
1:27:11
kind of attempt was Hillary with Beyonce and didn't really work.
1:27:15
John C Dvorak: You know, but and I don't think this will work
1:27:17
either. To be honest about it. I don't think there's many there's
1:27:21
memes out there that are already contradicting the possibility
1:27:26
Adam Curry: the fact that Kara Swisher was all in on Taylor
1:27:29
Swift tells me it's an OP she's all jacked about Taylor Swift
1:27:34
she predicted
1:27:34
John C Dvorak: Taylor Swift swift to be jacked about she's
1:27:37
she's a she predicted that
1:27:39
Adam Curry: Taylor Swift will be person Time Magazine's Person of
1:27:41
the Year, which means she was in on it because
1:27:44
John C Dvorak: you knew that's not a prediction you can make
1:27:46
unless you know that let's face it because
1:27:48
Adam Curry: Reed Hoffman of LinkedIn is it LinkedIn or is it
1:27:54
to force? Salesforce?
1:27:58
John C Dvorak: No, Reid Hoffman, I think is LinkedIn. Which I
1:28:01
thought was sold to Microsoft
1:28:03
Adam Curry: anyway. It's he's he's a very rich, incredibly
1:28:06
liberal dude. He owns Time Magazine. We know how these
1:28:09
things go. You have a quick meeting. Here we're gonna make a
1:28:13
Time Magazine Person of the Year. Well, let's call into DC.
1:28:17
John C Dvorak: This whole you'd also want to put some feeler you
1:28:20
want to put some test feelers out there. You have somebody a
1:28:24
stooge, useful idiot come out and say, Yeah, I can I predict
1:28:28
that Taylor Swift will be the first of the year. There's just
1:28:32
people don't throw stuff at you and call you an idiot. Oh,
1:28:35
that's not a bad idea. Then okay, we'll go ahead with it. It
1:28:40
could have been just a test test marketing.
1:28:43
Adam Curry: Alright, let's go to some more sigh up because
1:28:45
there's there's a really fun seems to be all we talk about.
1:28:48
Yes, there's a fun one. And this is and because we just talked
1:28:53
about him. He's he had time to leave the shower and go to meet
1:28:57
the press. Lindsey Graham, Senator Lindsey Graham of South
1:29:00
Carolina. And, you know, Trump had Oh, man. Trump had a
1:29:04
horrible, horrible speech. He said some horrible, horrible
1:29:07
things. Actually, before I go to him, I'll play. Well, mate,
1:29:13
yeah. Let me play the same. It's the same topic as CBS Face the
1:29:19
Nation. Margaret Brennan, with Chris Coons,
1:29:21
Unknown: some of your fellow Democrats, like Bob Menendez
1:29:23
have said it's shameful and selling out migrants and asylum
1:29:27
seekers. Why is he wrong?
1:29:30
John C Dvorak: I understand Senator Menendez passion on the
1:29:33
part of making sure that our immigration system is safe,
1:29:36
legal and humane. But as I've often said, in talking about the
1:29:41
campaign for 24, President Biden needs to be compared not to the
1:29:46
Almighty, not to a perfect alternative, but to the actual
1:29:49
alternative and you just played for Congressman Gonzalez, the
1:29:53
stunning, hateful, fascist rhetoric of former President
1:29:57
Trump when he's talking about poisoning the Blood of our
1:30:00
nation, the former president would bring in place, not these
1:30:04
modest changes to asylum policy, but radical and dramatic changes
1:30:09
to immigration policy. We need to take seriously that there is
1:30:12
a border security crisis. And we need to take responsible steps
1:30:16
that reflect our values. Okay, so
1:30:18
Adam Curry: this is the OP, the OP is poisoning the blood of
1:30:21
Americans. Let's go back with the previous guests.
1:30:25
Unknown: I want to bring up something that we discussed with
1:30:28
our last guest, which was a remark from Donald Trump
1:30:32
yesterday, and I want to play it here because I know you have
1:30:35
endorsed Mr. Trump for president.
1:30:37
They're poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've
1:30:40
done. They poison mental institutions and prisons all
1:30:44
over the world, not just in South America, not just the
1:30:47
three or four countries that we think about. But all over the
1:30:50
world that coming into our country, from Africa, from Asia
1:30:55
all over the world.
1:30:56
Do you endorse the sentiment that immigrants are poisoning
1:30:59
the blood of our country?
1:31:02
I think immigrants are the lifeblood of our country. And
1:31:05
it's important that we have it the Republican from Texas
1:31:08
immigrants, I've been a proponent of legal immigration.
1:31:11
And what this open border crisis is don't
1:31:14
John C Dvorak: stop. There is a we have a process called legal
1:31:18
immigration. We'll get to that. So now all of a sudden, he's a
1:31:21
proponent. Like it's something new now.
1:31:24
Adam Curry: Screw these guys. The point we're still on the
1:31:27
poisoning the blood
1:31:28
John C Dvorak: gather. I Valley's bad boys. Yeah, little
1:31:32
Adam Curry: boys. And
1:31:33
Unknown: what this open border crisis is done. It's put legal
1:31:36
immigrants to the back of the line. And it's it's encouraged
1:31:40
illegal immigration, and it's created this rhetoric, and it's
1:31:43
created this anger. And it's not just former President Trump. I
1:31:46
mean, in my district, people are angry, Margaret, all throughout
1:31:49
the country. People are angry and seeing all this chaos. It's
1:31:53
why it's so important that the House, the Senate and the
1:31:56
president come together and find a real solution, a national
1:31:59
security, a national security package that takes care of our
1:32:02
allies also protects us at home, not only from foreign threats,
1:32:06
but also internal threats, because the anger is very real.
1:32:10
I realized that we need to acknowledge it. But that
1:32:14
phrasing poisoning the blood is reminiscent of language. The
1:32:19
White House says Hitler used which is why I wanted to get you
1:32:22
to specifically respond to this.
1:32:25
Adam Curry: So
1:32:26
John C Dvorak: yes, so she only she was she has a script from
1:32:29
the White House. Is that what she just told us? Yes.
1:32:31
Adam Curry: And this is the headline. The headline
1:32:34
everywhere is Trump takes Trump Donald Trump paraphrases Adolf
1:32:40
Hitler by telling rally that migrants are poisoning the blood
1:32:44
of our country phrase first appeared in fewer book mine
1:32:48
calm. So I got my copy out.
1:32:53
John C Dvorak: Good of mine. I'll have copies of mine calm.
1:32:57
Adam Curry: Everybody should read. It's like you got to read
1:33:00
the Unabomber manifesto.
1:33:02
John C Dvorak: You should read the Bible. You should read mine
1:33:04
comp. You should read a lot of books.
1:33:06
Adam Curry: And there is no phrase poisoning the blood of
1:33:13
America or Germans. The word poisoning the
1:33:16
John C Dvorak: blood is what your poison PDF search. That's
1:33:20
what I would do.
1:33:20
Adam Curry: That's what I'm doing. I'm doing a search I'm
1:33:21
having right now. Wholesale poisoning of the public mind
1:33:25
poisoning of the public mind poisoning of our sexual blood
1:33:28
poisoning. I'm sorry, not sexual blood. What do you say here? Let
1:33:32
me go back. sexual life poisoning of the sound instinct
1:33:38
wasting
1:33:39
John C Dvorak: of our sexual life. The hell's he talking
1:33:41
about?
1:33:42
Adam Curry: Well, let me go back. Let me see what he was
1:33:43
talking about. These are the dolphin tragic witnesses to the
1:33:48
steadily increasing scourge that is poisoning our sexual Well, in
1:33:51
Hitler's days. There was a lot of transgenderism. You know, a
1:33:56
lot of you know, there are a lot of gay stuff going that's what
1:34:02
the what the Cabaret is about. Yeah, the movie cabaret. Yes. So
1:34:08
their sufferings are the visible results of parental vise. So
1:34:12
he's not saying that they're poisoning the blood poisoning of
1:34:15
the sound instincts of our people poisoning the popular
1:34:19
mind use
1:34:20
John C Dvorak: the word poisoning as though poison is a
1:34:23
synonymous okay, I get it. So this so there's really shit is
1:34:27
what you're telling. This is
1:34:28
Adam Curry: a lie. It's a lie. It's a lie. And they can look
1:34:32
how it wasn't that hard for me to bring up the PDF and do a
1:34:36
little search wasn't hard. Here's a Good Morning America
1:34:41
Unknown: overnight, FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP facing
1:34:43
swift backlash for his attacks on immigrants. Former President
1:34:47
Donald Trump campaigning in New Hampshire sounding as confident
1:34:51
as ever
1:34:51
what happened to the bounce? You know with Nicki, they talked
1:34:54
about the surge mocking his
1:34:56
GOP primary opponents who he called backstabbing, established
1:35:00
Schmidt losers for trailing in the polls. His speech peppered
1:35:03
with personal insults at one point calling New Hampshire's
1:35:06
popular Republican governor a quote spoiled brat Governor
1:35:11
Chris Sununu this week endorsing Nikki Haley, saying she can not
1:35:15
only win his state, but deliver a Republican landslide. Beyond
1:35:19
his rivals. Trump also upped his attacks on immigrants with
1:35:23
highly offensive white nationalist rhetoric, evoking
1:35:26
similar language to Nazi propaganda about the purity of
1:35:31
this country's, quote, blood. Everybody first except America,
1:35:35
Trump's crowd full of fervent fans. Doesn't Trump have your
1:35:40
vote? Yes. Did you consider any of the other candidates? Also in
1:35:45
the state this weekend, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who
1:35:48
brushed off any idea of joining a Trump ticket?
1:35:51
You know, I'd rather be governor than vice president.
1:35:53
No question I didn't he thinks Trump will try to delegitimize
1:35:56
any results in early still wrong does not win. If Trump loses
1:36:01
he will say it's stolen no
1:36:03
Adam Curry: matter what. Okay. All right. So there it is. It's
1:36:05
Nazism. And now everyone who's a Trump fan can't You can't be a
1:36:10
supporter. You're a fan. You're a fan. You're a Nazi. Now we'll
1:36:15
play the bit with the Lindy hat. Lindy Hop, grey hat. We've got a
1:36:18
reasonably appropriate response before
1:36:20
Unknown: I let you go. I do want to get your reaction to that
1:36:23
former President Trump said overnight, he was in New
1:36:26
Hampshire, he was talking about the need to keep immigrants out
1:36:30
of this country. Here's what he said, I'll get your response.
1:36:32
They're
1:36:32
poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've
1:36:35
done. They poison mental institutions.
1:36:37
Adam Curry: Now. What do you think he means? Let's just stop
1:36:39
for a second. Because he says this all you have to have to
1:36:42
listen to the whole Trump thing says the poisoning the blood of
1:36:44
our country. They're poisoning mental institutions. What
1:36:48
exactly is he really talking about immigrants here? What does
1:36:53
he mean? Well,
1:36:54
John C Dvorak: I think and I think for one thing, he's
1:36:59
rambling. Yes. And because he delays the wedding, random till
1:37:04
institutions, what's he talking about? I think he's talking
1:37:08
about immigrants coming in and kind of upsetting the mechanism
1:37:17
of state.
1:37:18
Adam Curry: I think he's just overloading is what I think he
1:37:20
means. Oh, yeah. Overloading? I
1:37:21
John C Dvorak: think that would be yes, we're loading
1:37:23
overloading.
1:37:24
Adam Curry: But no, because the word is poisoning the blood and
1:37:28
all they're not know your airways race
1:37:31
John C Dvorak: and the word blood, obviously, Nazi
1:37:35
Adam Curry: Aryan race, white nationalists to keep
1:37:38
Unknown: immigrants out of this country. Here's what he said,
1:37:40
I'll get your response. They're
1:37:41
poisoning the blood of our country. That's what they've
1:37:44
done. They poisoned mental institutions and prisons all
1:37:48
over the world, not just in South America, not just the
1:37:50
three or four countries that we think about. But all over the
1:37:54
world that coming into our country from Africa, from Asia
1:37:58
all over the world.
1:38:00
The Biden campaign has accused former President Trump of quote,
1:38:04
parroting Adolf Hitler
1:38:06
Adam Curry: and interesting she's said the White House she
1:38:08
says the Biden campaign, so at least he's a little more honest
1:38:11
about it, but it's coming from the White House.
1:38:14
Unknown: What is your reaction are the President's comments,
1:38:16
representative? Have you and other Republicans feel 76%
1:38:21
of the American people, not Donald Trump bleed the borders
1:38:24
broken? They're worried about that. No coming over killing
1:38:27
them.
1:38:27
But what about his language? Just that language that
1:38:30
poisoning the blind? Yeah,
1:38:32
no. I'm worried about an outcome. He is right to what he
1:38:36
had the border secured the lowest in 40 years in December
1:38:40
of 2020. To the Biden administration. You're talking
1:38:43
about Donald Trump's language as you sit on the sidelines and
1:38:46
allowed the country to be invaded. 172 people on the
1:38:50
terrorist watch list have come on your watch fentanyl is
1:38:53
killing Americans, Senator anytime it
1:38:55
goes from language just on the language.
1:38:57
Adam Curry: Let's get to the Nazi party.
1:38:59
Unknown: I want to get your response you have endorsed
1:39:00
former President Trump are you comfortable on
1:39:03
John C Dvorak: top? What show is this? And who is that woman?
1:39:06
Adam Curry: This is Kristen Welker. This is the Welker she's
1:39:09
terrible. The new face to face depress nation, but
1:39:12
John C Dvorak: he doesn't listen. I never thought she she
1:39:15
had her own little show on NBC. They all have this these test
1:39:18
shows that Dave people don't know at NBC as like, Can new
1:39:21
shows. They're all exactly the same with the same stories, but
1:39:25
they're all done by different people. Tom Yamas has one Yeah,
1:39:27
but Kristen, welcome. Well, welcome
1:39:30
Adam Curry: to the black. She's more brown.
1:39:34
John C Dvorak: She's a multi CultI looking, but she was okay
1:39:40
reading you know, teleprompter. She was fine. But this is an
1:39:43
example of someone who doesn't listen.
1:39:45
Adam Curry: Now her job is to press this sentence. That's what
1:39:49
you hear God says says no good.
1:39:54
John C Dvorak: I did not think she was going to be good when
1:39:56
she took this job. She just
1:39:57
Adam Curry: wanted specifically poisoning the blood sure is that
1:40:01
not in mind calm? Is that not Nazi talk right there? Is he not
1:40:06
the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler himself sir. This is a
1:40:09
senator invaded
1:40:10
Unknown: 172 people on the terrorist watch list of come on
1:40:14
your watch fentanyl is
1:40:15
Adam Curry: killing. Here's this she's like a cicada since
1:40:18
allowed the country
1:40:19
Unknown: to be invaded 172 people on the terrorist watch
1:40:23
lists have come on your watch fentanyl is killing Americans
1:40:26
Senator any German
1:40:28
language just on the language though I want to get your
1:40:30
respect you have endorsed former President Trump. Are you
1:40:33
comfortable? Do
1:40:33
Adam Curry: you endorse a Nazi? With him using
1:40:37
Unknown: words like that?
1:40:39
Adam Curry: Man, this is so old. This is Hello 2015. We're
1:40:43
Unknown: talking about language. I could care less what language
1:40:48
people use as long as we get it right. Live in legal
1:40:52
immigration. I have no animosity toward people trying to come to
1:40:56
our country. I have animosity against terrorists and against
1:40:59
drug dealers. But I understand why people want to come to
1:41:02
America, but we have chaos. And we need to create order if you
1:41:06
think you're going to win the debate on illegal immigration.
1:41:09
But picking a line out of the Trump speech. Most Americans
1:41:12
understand the game has to change that we're under threat
1:41:16
that we're gonna get attacked, that our borders completely been
1:41:19
obliterated. So if you're talking about the language Trump
1:41:23
uses rather than trying to fix it, that's a losing strategy for
1:41:26
the Biden administration. Now
1:41:27
Adam Curry: I have the Wow, he's good.
1:41:31
John C Dvorak: Let's face it. Like he did? He's an old pro.
1:41:35
That is not going to be no he's not really now the worst and
1:41:39
Welker, who's an idiot,
1:41:40
Adam Curry: now it's time for a shower. Now, I have a minute of
1:41:47
the Trump speech and I have an issue with his language because
1:41:50
we know what the problem is. The problem is, this administration
1:41:54
has told the Department of Homeland Security, catch and
1:41:57
release let them go. It's policy. It is not, I repeat, it
1:42:01
is not the wall. It is you doesn't matter how big the wall
1:42:07
is or how high the fence is. If people can come in and they have
1:42:12
either an app that says you're good to go, which is how they're
1:42:15
coming in through airports. Yep. Or you can get a ride. You just
1:42:20
wait. There's no way to put an entire big beautiful wall that
1:42:23
keeps everybody out. Once you get in. If if there's no
1:42:27
repercussion, people will keep coming. I got a shot. And then
1:42:32
and of course, our own. Our own people who now run the
1:42:36
international office of of immigration at the United
1:42:40
Nations are giving the prepaid debit cards, you got the buses,
1:42:44
the only you just gotta cross the Rio Grande that last bit
1:42:47
you'll get wet. Don't worry about it. And you can see it
1:42:49
people are showing up. They've got clean clothes, everything's
1:42:52
good to go. Nice. Backpack backpack, you just gotta get in.
1:42:56
And once you're in, it's a policy you're in. You're in is
1:43:00
it's about parole. It's like the disco. But Trump, this is I had
1:43:06
this is my issue with Trump. I don't understand why he doesn't
1:43:10
call out what it is. This actually this this speech,
1:43:14
because that's, that's the gross offense here. He's treating
1:43:17
people like they're morons and
1:43:19
Unknown: a lot of work to do. You know, when they let, I think
1:43:22
the real number is 15 16 million people into our country. When
1:43:25
they do that we got a lot of work to do. They're poisoning
1:43:29
the blood of our country. That's what they've done. They poisoned
1:43:32
mental institutions and prisons all over the world, not just in
1:43:36
South America, not just the three or four countries that we
1:43:39
think about. But all over the world that coming into our
1:43:43
country from Africa from Asia all over the world they're
1:43:46
pouring into our country nobody's even looking at him
1:43:49
they just come in the crime is going to be tremendous. The
1:43:52
terrorism is going to be terrorism is going to be no we
1:43:56
built a tremendous piece of the wall and then we're going to
1:43:58
build more and the election was rigged and we didn't do it but I
1:44:03
figured that just throw it up would have taken three weeks it
1:44:05
was all built there was already to be just hoisted up the exact
1:44:09
wall that the Border Patrol who are incredible Brandon Judd and
1:44:13
all people Border Patrol. That's exactly what they designed. They
1:44:17
had the anti climb bars and everything. And you know what
1:44:21
they did? They didn't want it to go up. They sold it for five
1:44:24
cents on the dollar. Can you believe it? All of that stuff?
1:44:27
Is
1:44:27
very sad.
1:44:30
Adam Curry: It's just irrelevant. That's not the
1:44:32
problem. People know they can come because it's you're good to
1:44:36
go. You're not going to get in trouble. It's not the wall. No,
1:44:39
I'm a little sick of that. He used to change that message.
1:44:42
Because just as this you know, come on. They're smarter people.
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: He dropped a Mexico's gonna pay for it. Yeah,
1:44:49
that was
1:44:49
Adam Curry: also dumb. That was a loser. Meanwhile, something we
1:44:53
missed in the National Defense Authorization Act.
1:44:57
John C Dvorak: I'm sure there's more than all
1:44:59
Adam Curry: coming Now we missed the big one
1:45:01
Unknown: Congress approving a bill preventing any US president
1:45:04
from withdrawing from NATO, without approval from the Senate
1:45:07
or an act of Congress. measures included in the recently passed
1:45:11
National Defense Authorization Act. Democratic Senator Tim
1:45:14
Kaine and Republican Senator Marco Rubio spearheaded that
1:45:18
bill, which marks Congress's commitment to the NATO alliance.
1:45:21
Adam Curry: Big miss. Okay, thanks, Rubio.
1:45:24
John C Dvorak: Wow, you know what that tells me? Trump's
1:45:27
gonna be our next president. Pretty sure part of the overall
1:45:32
the they're lining stuff up. Yep. They're just sort hit
1:45:36
thwart word. The word I want
1:45:38
Adam Curry: to warn was his, his motive.
1:45:41
John C Dvorak: Okay, he's going to be president. We're going to,
1:45:44
you know, we're going to see oh, by the way, I got a note from
1:45:47
one of our producers who sent $1 bill with it. Oh, yeah. Taking
1:45:53
part in my game, which is who's pick the Vice President? And I
1:45:57
thought he had a good one. Ben Carson. No, no, no, I liked the
1:46:02
idea of Ben Carson.
1:46:04
Adam Curry: I'm staying with he was loyal to Trump.
1:46:07
John C Dvorak: He never quit. He didn't backstab me didn't write
1:46:10
a book. He's smart. And he's was once a presidential candidate
1:46:14
himself. I like Ben Carson is a vice VP. He's
1:46:18
Adam Curry: not even on the list. yet. I'm sticking with
1:46:21
Elise. I think she I think she's, she's nice. Yeah. The
1:46:26
daughter. Know, though. The only way I can remember her name from
1:46:31
New York. No, the one who, who jealous. Panic. Yeah, the one
1:46:34
who jacked up the university president. Yeah, she's
1:46:37
John C Dvorak: still she's at, she's doing good. work,
1:46:41
Adam Curry: and play. She's in play. There's another thing is
1:46:44
kind of a now C span we have one of our producers, he loyally
1:46:51
sends in every single between shows, he sends in C span
1:46:55
callers. And,
1:46:58
John C Dvorak: but just to be my beat, I might add, well,
1:47:01
Adam Curry: you know, you don't treat people with kindness. And
1:47:03
you know, you block them. And, and they go away. So they come
1:47:07
to me. Of course, they also think I'm your assistant, your
1:47:11
intern. Tell John, this. This is a new conspiracy launched from
1:47:18
the Democrat line. I love this conspiracy. Next up,
1:47:22
Unknown: let's hear from Kathy and Satellite Beach, Florida. On
1:47:25
our democratic line. Yes, I have a question about the binder of
1:47:31
raw Russian data that's been missing since Trump left office.
1:47:37
It's about 10 inches thick, full of all the raw data that America
1:47:42
has collected on sources and methods and everything. And the
1:47:49
reason I bring it up is because I've always wondered why Ivana
1:47:54
Trump's casket had pin pallbearers When Princess
1:47:58
Diana's lead line casket only had six, I mean, that casket had
1:48:05
to have been hugely heavy. And with all the missing boxes of
1:48:10
secret documents that everybody keeps talking about, I think
1:48:14
that they need to go to the golf course where Trump had her
1:48:18
buried and just take a look say just out of curiosity, I want to
1:48:22
know where that binder of raw Russian excuse me information
1:48:29
went.
1:48:31
Adam Curry: Okay, Alton, is I love it, dig her up. Dig her up.
1:48:37
This is the best Trump buried do it to eventually you watch. Oh,
1:48:42
it's coming Trump. This is it Trump buried the Russian
1:48:46
documents that show all the collusion buried it with Ivanka,
1:48:51
dig her up. Meanwhile, the real news is this former top
1:48:58
Unknown: FBI counterintelligence official faces five years in
1:49:01
prison after pleading guilty to working with a Russian oligarch
1:49:04
he wants investigated. Charles McGonigal admitted he accepted
1:49:08
more than $17,000 from Oleg Deripaska mechanical lead the
1:49:12
FBI is Counterintelligence division between 2016 and
1:49:16
2018 $17,000.
1:49:20
John C Dvorak: Are you kidding me? That's nothing. I know. But
1:49:24
he from an oligarch I know. But you know,
1:49:27
Adam Curry: he this guy was a part of Operation crossfire.
1:49:31
This guy was a part of it. The guys who were accusing Trump of
1:49:37
being in collusion. Yeah.
1:49:39
John C Dvorak: And he was in collusion.
1:49:43
Adam Curry: This guy was completely in collusion come
1:49:45
Yeah,
1:49:45
John C Dvorak: even though he's a bid some people think is
1:49:47
basically just a Russian spy and it was 70,000 is a bullshit
1:49:51
number anyway. I
1:49:52
Adam Curry: mean, that's they all that's in there, so that we
1:49:57
don't talk about it. Go away. Go away News. Hey, dig up, dig her
1:50:01
up that you watch dig her up. It's gonna be a chant. Dig her
1:50:06
pick her
1:50:07
John C Dvorak: up. Dig her up.
1:50:10
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. NPR is very upset that I love this
1:50:13
lady. I love this lady. She's very upset about how the media
1:50:18
is covering Trump. They're not doing it right. You're doing it
1:50:21
all wrong. This has been a a theme amongst journalists that
1:50:26
we're not doing it. We're doing it all wrong. We're going to
1:50:28
help them win again.
1:50:30
Unknown: I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and this is a Sunday story. And the
1:50:35
fourth and final Republican debate on December 6, Governor
1:50:39
Chris Christie addressed the elephant in the room. Him He
1:50:43
warned Americans of what may come if Donald Trump gets
1:50:46
reelected president.
1:50:49
Let me make it clear. His conduct is unacceptable. He's
1:50:52
unfit and be careful what you're gonna get. If you ever got
1:50:56
another Donald Trump term, he's letting you know, I am your
1:51:00
retribution. You will only be Elizabeth. He will only be his
1:51:03
own retribution. He doesn't care for the American people. It's
1:51:06
Donald Trump.
1:51:07
First. How to cover Trump is I think you're right. I
1:51:10
Adam Curry: think that was a dig by saying the elephant in the
1:51:12
room for Chris Christie. I think that was one of those intimate
1:51:16
John C Dvorak: journalistic puns.
1:51:20
Adam Curry: That shame attribution.
1:51:22
Unknown: He doesn't care for the American people. It's Donald
1:51:24
Trump. By
1:51:25
John C Dvorak: the way, hold on. What was the that was the what
1:51:28
was there? No elephant in the room.
1:51:30
Adam Curry: The Trump wasn't there. That was the elephant in
1:51:33
the room. Well, that's
1:51:34
John C Dvorak: an elephant not in the room by
1:51:35
Adam Curry: Yeah. How to
1:51:37
Unknown: cover Trump is a question that's haunted the
1:51:40
media since Trump's surprise when in 2016 haunted
1:51:43
Adam Curry: the media, oh, the media is haunted. We're
1:51:46
journalists were trained to Jay school were haunted. We don't
1:51:50
know how to do it. A
1:51:51
Unknown: 2018 study
1:51:52
John C Dvorak: show a lot of second this stuff. I need to do
1:51:55
this. So no, I love it. I love it when you do but it just seems
1:51:58
to me that this is like a rebuke of journalism. Why should it be
1:52:04
haunted about anything that reporters are supposed to report
1:52:08
the news not not be in the news and the news and that's you
1:52:13
shouldn't be haunted by the results of their reporting.
1:52:17
Adam Curry: Perhaps you should take another J school course and
1:52:19
see what they're teaching these journalists should
1:52:21
John C Dvorak: they're teaching something I'm unfamiliar with
1:52:23
how
1:52:24
Unknown: to cover Trump is a question that's haunted the
1:52:26
media since Trump's surprise when in 2016 surprise when a
1:52:31
2018 study showed that Trump received around $2 billion in
1:52:35
free media we got substantially more coverage than his opponents
1:52:40
aiming his campaign. Now Trump is dominating headlines again as
1:52:44
he faces federal indictments and civil lawsuits while campaigning
1:52:48
at the same time,
1:52:50
Adam Curry: making every This isn't by the way, this is a
1:52:52
great edit. I did not do this, but they pan left and right with
1:52:57
all of his crazy talk. I'm making
1:53:00
Unknown: every executive branch employee fireable by the
1:53:04
President, as I said, I will keep men out of women's sports
1:53:08
and I will sign a law prohibiting child sexual
1:53:12
mutilation we will root out the communist Marxist fascist and
1:53:18
the radical left thugs that lives like vermin within the
1:53:21
confines of our country will carry out the largest domestic
1:53:25
deportation operation in American history.
1:53:30
My other job is host of Weekend Edition Sunday, I did an
1:53:34
interview recently, that really made me think about Trump and
1:53:39
how we cover him as journalist.
1:53:43
Adam Curry: I want to share as journalist, this, you're missing
1:53:46
it as darling journalist.
1:53:49
Unknown: I wanted to share it with you, I spoke with two
1:53:51
people who believe the media is failing in the way it's
1:53:56
reporting on Trump and Warren, these failures put our democracy
1:54:00
at risk
1:54:01
Adam Curry: a mockery of democracy, our democracy got
1:54:05
destroyed with the Patriot Act, lady, here we go associate. This
1:54:09
was a 25 minute program. I just pulled two other clips. Here's a
1:54:13
douche who writes for The Atlantic. And this is his view
1:54:16
of what we should do. I
1:54:19
Unknown: I've got a pretty pessimistic outlook on this
1:54:22
because I think that what's happening with Trump is that a
1:54:24
lot of the things that he's doing, both in terms of what
1:54:27
he's posting on truth, social is social media network. And what
1:54:30
he's saying at rallies, is not cutting through to the ordinary
1:54:33
voter. And that's important because some of the stuff he's
1:54:35
saying is the most extreme rhetoric of any presidential
1:54:38
candidate in the last four or five, six decades. So I'll give
1:54:42
you an example of this. There was a rally in October where
1:54:45
Trump floated the idea of shooting shoplifters on site, so
1:54:50
anyone who commits a petty crime as killed it's an extrajudicial
1:54:53
killing that the leading contender for the Republican
1:54:55
nomination floated, and right after that he floated the idea
1:54:58
of joking about it I'm Paul Pelosi being nearly beaten to
1:55:02
death of a hammer. And there was no coverage of this for three
1:55:05
days in the New York Times, at which point it appeared on page
1:55:08
14.
1:55:09
Adam Curry: So here he is complaining about the broken
1:55:11
elite messaging system, the New York Times and New York Times is
1:55:15
doing it wrong.
1:55:16
Unknown: And I think what the press is doing is it's thinking,
1:55:19
people know, Trump says crazy stuff lots of the time. And
1:55:22
that's fine. But it's still very important that they see it,
1:55:25
because, you know, there's another bit of rhetoric he
1:55:27
recently posted on tweet social, where he effectively implied
1:55:31
that the former top general of United States Mark Milley
1:55:34
deserve to be executed. And, you know, that is one of the most
1:55:37
unbelievable things that a president could say one of the
1:55:40
most extreme things. It was not covered in most of the press.
1:55:43
And I think that is a real failing, where we're not
1:55:46
understanding the scale of the threat that Trump poses because
1:55:49
it's been baked in as sort of what I call the banality and
1:55:52
crazy that it's so routine that is not generating headlines,
1:55:55
Adam Curry: this guy is giving them the exact wrong advice.
1:55:59
Yeah, I
1:55:59
John C Dvorak: agree. He's saying the opposite of what
1:56:02
should be done. So now let's go back to just given Trump
1:56:06
whatever crazy thing Trump says, push it. Is this
1:56:09
Adam Curry: is so dumb, okay, then we have to do shit from The
1:56:12
Guardian. So I think that
1:56:14
Unknown: newsroom leaders need to be and maybe they're doing
1:56:17
this, you know, maybe some newsroom
1:56:19
Adam Curry: leaders, leaders leader I call the editor isn't
1:56:22
called the editor or you
1:56:23
John C Dvorak: I guess, yeah.
1:56:25
Adam Curry: But must be right.
1:56:27
Unknown: So I think that newsroom leaders need to be and
1:56:31
maybe they're doing this, you know, maybe some of them are
1:56:33
doing it. And maybe they're doing it a little. But I think
1:56:36
they need to get our staffs and their staffs in general, and
1:56:41
talk about what I wrote my column about we we, the public
1:56:47
is not getting the importance of this election. They're not
1:56:51
getting what the stakes and the consequences are.
1:56:54
Adam Curry: They don't get it. You're stupid. You don't get it
1:56:56
people you don't understand you don't get it. You're not
1:56:58
listening to us. We've got to ratchet it up. You don't get it,
1:57:01
you don't get it.
1:57:02
Unknown: How can we go about? How can we go about changing
1:57:06
that? How can we get across the extreme nature of this by just
1:57:12
reporting and you know, it has to do with emphasis it has to do
1:57:16
with where you put stories, what kind of articles you do what the
1:57:20
headlines are, but we're still sort of stuck in an old way of
1:57:25
covering both sides, trying very hard to make sure that no one
1:57:29
ever says that we're partisan and trying to be partisan. It
1:57:33
calls for a rethinking in newsrooms of how to communicate
1:57:38
to our readers and viewers.
1:57:40
John C Dvorak: I like to comment on this. Yes, please. Now,
1:57:44
historically, reporting was always partisan. Yes. That's why
1:57:50
you had like a newspaper in Santa Rosa, the press Democrat.
1:57:55
There we at the Oakland Tribune used to be a Republican
1:57:58
newspaper. There's one up in New Hampshire that's notoriously a
1:58:02
Republican or was a notoriously Republican newsletter, or
1:58:05
newspaper, I'm sorry, newsletter, newspaper. And these
1:58:08
newspapers were very partisan. And they took a perspective and
1:58:11
a point of view. And that's why journalism schools appeared
1:58:15
because it was getting to the point where they somebody
1:58:18
decided that it's not a good thing. So they went to, you
1:58:22
know, teaching people how to do that. I say, have three people
1:58:25
quoted, you got to have both sides of the story. You got to
1:58:28
do this, scatter that. And it just naturally gravitates
1:58:32
because I can find Mastodon tweets, or tweets, whatever
1:58:38
they're called, have all kinds of journalists that have all
1:58:40
scampered away from Twitter. And they've gone to their own little
1:58:43
hole hovels, and they're all talking about you, we can't let
1:58:47
Trump win we have to do this. We have to do that. And if you
1:58:51
remember that journos, journos little room or banner used group
1:58:57
whatever the hell it was, it was a meeting me up space we talked
1:59:01
about on the show back in the day, where they were the
1:59:04
Democrat, a journalist would all get together and grouse. That
1:59:08
was supposed to be eliminated. It's it gravitates right back
1:59:12
toward it. And there is nobody that's on the Republican side
1:59:15
except for Fox News. Then there were not even good Republicans
1:59:19
Adam Curry: voted on by Democrats. Yeah, yeah. But it's
1:59:26
the whole system's broken doesn't work anymore. People
1:59:29
like this. They want tick tock. They want you know, quick hits,
1:59:32
they want to see this boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
1:59:34
boom, boom. Now we're all we're all highly malleable. Give me
1:59:37
some dopamine. Give me something and I want to own the libs. I
1:59:42
want to post the memes. I know I see it. This is what's
1:59:45
happening. This is what's happening. People are out of
1:59:47
control. By the way, there's so much talk about Trump. You know,
1:59:53
if he is reelected, oh, my goodness. I mean, that will be
1:59:57
the end of democracy, the end of the world. World is no, no, it's
2:00:00
no democracy, where democracy is done. Of course, we have a
2:00:04
republic. And we have a very interesting system. Yes, we, as
2:00:08
a republic, let's get that straight. You have a very
2:00:10
interesting system when it comes to the presidential election,
2:00:15
which is the electoral college. And we've discussed this many
2:00:20
times on the show, I think it's, but I'll play this clip of Bill
2:00:24
and Hillary Clinton. And then we should probably just run through
2:00:28
one more time, what the electoral college is for why it
2:00:32
was put in place, and why it is important. But first, let's
2:00:36
listen to those bastions of democracy. Bill and Hillary
2:00:41
Clinton, you know, it's funny, I saw them on stage together. This
2:00:44
is at a Bloomberg conference about a month and a half ago.
2:00:49
And it took me it took me like 20 minutes before I remembered,
2:00:54
oh, yeah, they're married. It was just like two separate
2:00:56
people. I don't even connect them as a couple anymore. It's
2:01:00
very weird. It starts off with Bill, do you
2:01:03
Unknown: think direct election of the President, popular vote
2:01:06
would be preferable to the Electoral College method, we
2:01:09
adopted the Electoral College, when we were 13 states. But it
2:01:14
also helped to load up the electoral votes of the southern
2:01:21
states that had slaves. Now we know that the effect of the
2:01:26
electoral college is to give about 36 extra votes to the most
2:01:33
culturally conservative and for this dried American states. And
2:01:41
I have no objection to them voting, I want them all to vote,
2:01:44
I would not unlike some of them. I've never tried to make it
2:01:46
harder for him to vote, I'd make it easier for him to vote, a lot
2:01:50
the votes counted, and a waterfall account, but I just
2:01:53
don't think you can justify that today.
2:01:57
I assume you prefer direct election as well.
2:02:00
Adam Curry: Oh, I definitely prefer. So they're anti
2:02:06
constitutionalists. Yeah. And I think we should because they did
2:02:10
a very poor job. They said, Oh, is because you know, the
2:02:13
Republicans or, you know, the conservative states. Of course,
2:02:17
you know, that's switched. But no, it's the states in the South
2:02:21
was racist. They had slaves and they were going to win because
2:02:23
they counted the slaves. That's why it was the Electoral
2:02:25
College. Is that the truth, our constitutional experts work, I
2:02:30
John C Dvorak: mean, that you can make that I think that
2:02:32
argument can be made. But I don't think that's the real
2:02:35
argument that recent Electoral College was put together, it was
2:02:38
to prevent a big states that overpopulated states, The New
2:02:43
York's and counties nobody liked at the time. And the Phillies
2:02:46
note that New Yorkers were hated because they were Dutch, I think
2:02:50
is the reason you gotta hate those guys. And it was the so
2:02:53
they didn't run roughshod over the little states like Rhode
2:02:57
Island and Delaware and Vermont, and the rest of America. So they
2:03:01
tried to give him create an even footing, because it was so eat
2:03:05
because the big states were corrupt. They had the corrupt
2:03:09
policies that corrupt politicians. And the idea was,
2:03:12
you know, once in a while, you're gonna get a situation
2:03:14
where the majority of people are going to vote for the corrupt
2:03:18
guy, and this will keep that from from that person from
2:03:21
getting in office. I Hillary being the best example that
2:03:24
recently. Yes,
2:03:25
Adam Curry: and exactly. It was a an escape hatch in case some
2:03:30
nut job was about to come to power.
2:03:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think that I think that rationale is
2:03:37
more accurate now than the other one. And then the other thing
2:03:41
is, I've written this opinion, good Divorce Act, that substack
2:03:44
that come and read my article about this. I've said that over
2:03:49
time, the Electoral College has to go, because it advertised
2:03:55
does not fairly distribute advertising dollars throughout
2:03:59
the country. During presidential elections, the only states to
2:04:03
get the advertising dollars are those swing states that are
2:04:06
going to determine who wins in the Electoral College. And this
2:04:10
is unfair to the media outlets in California and New York,
2:04:16
don't get any money because they're gonna vote Democrat. So
2:04:20
why are we going to give them any money to do advertising? So
2:04:23
we, in fact, when you're out here, you see during the
2:04:26
presidential campaigning, you see nothing no ads, there's like
2:04:30
breasts like there's not even an event. And so they so because of
2:04:34
that, I think that the media will continue to promote the
2:04:38
idea of abolishing it. Yes. But that's a completely that's a
2:04:45
outlier position that I taken, and I still believe it. No, I'm
2:04:49
Adam Curry: with you. I like that explanation. That's why the
2:04:52
media keeps promoting it.
2:04:55
John C Dvorak: There otherwise why would they care? You had a
2:04:57
Adam Curry: clip this past veterans They actually was a
2:05:01
twofer clip. I mean, it was President Biden speaking on
2:05:06
Veterans Day. Do you remember these clips? If I hear him I
2:05:12
probably would. You'll remember this one this 44 second clip,
2:05:16
you'll remember it hit
2:05:17
Unknown: Biden administration on Friday announcing three steps to
2:05:20
improve the life of America's veterans ahead of Saturday's
2:05:24
Veterans Day. First is expanding no cost health care to all
2:05:28
living World War Two veterans, eligible vets will be able to
2:05:31
claim those benefits starting this month. This includes
2:05:34
nursing home care, some veterans who suffer from Parkinson's
2:05:38
disease will also be eligible for free health care.
2:05:41
Adam Curry: So this report, and the President did say that he
2:05:45
said, we will have free care for World War Two veterans, there's
2:05:50
only about 250,000 of them left. Amazing. It's that many. And we
2:05:55
got a boots on the ground report from one of our producers, who
2:05:58
says a few weeks ago, my family was excited to hear on your
2:06:01
show, the President Biden had announced free nursing home care
2:06:05
for all World War Two veterans. My wife's 96 year old
2:06:10
grandfather is a world war two veteran who landed in Nagasaki
2:06:13
about two weeks after the bomb dropped. He is currently in a
2:06:16
facility that's not so great. And we were excited the prospect
2:06:19
of him moving into better care despite his limited funds. After
2:06:24
was put on a waitlist for the local five star VA facility, I
2:06:28
decided to do more research. That's when I found out it's all
2:06:31
a lie. The VA secretly updated the announcement to say that
2:06:36
only certain World War Two veterans were eligible. My
2:06:41
wife's grandfather is not one of them. So they indeed they
2:06:45
updated this to say, update to the release. nursing home care
2:06:50
is free for nearly all World War Two veterans who are eligible
2:06:55
for nursing home services at VA including one anyone in need of
2:06:59
such care for a service connected disability. And to
2:07:04
anyone in need of such care who also has a service connected
2:07:07
disability rated at 70% or more. That is such I mean, that's low
2:07:16
even for Biden. That's low. I mean, come on. It's a quarter of
2:07:21
a million dudes. And you're going to do that. I thought that
2:07:26
was just that.
2:07:28
John C Dvorak: This discussion broke my heart. It broke my
2:07:30
heart. Well, yeah.
2:07:33
Adam Curry: And how long? How long is it gonna be a year? Two
2:07:36
years. Really? How long is it gonna last? So I, I just bought
2:07:43
John C Dvorak: this sort of thing that we're getting from
2:07:45
these guys. And that's why I brought it bitched and moaned
2:07:48
earlier about the fact that we're pumping more oil than ever
2:07:51
before and making it seem that Oh, no, no, we're very
2:07:54
environmentally conscious. Oh, yeah. Cop 28 Blah, blah, blah.
2:07:59
And then Trump laws right, justice, blah, blah, blah. And
2:08:03
so Trump, you know, is wrong. I'm gonna drill drill drill
2:08:06
word, that's what we're doing. But nobody. Democrats are just
2:08:12
terrible people.
2:08:15
Adam Curry: It's a terrible team. I'm not. They may be okay,
2:08:18
people. They're just in a bad environment. You gotta You gotta
2:08:22
love them. You can't just dig her up. That's all I got.
2:08:27
John C Dvorak: That's what I mean. That's a good example.
2:08:30
Adam Curry: For take the break. A fun little moment happened on
2:08:33
the view. It's always funny when these things take place. Of
2:08:36
course they are running, running interference for President
2:08:39
Biden. You know, he's just a good dad. He just has a crappy
2:08:43
son. Come on. Stop already. And Anand Aveiro. Well, she drops a
2:08:48
canard of epic proportions.
2:08:50
Unknown: Hunter Biden. Yes. I think he's engaged in
2:08:52
corruption. I do think that the charges against him by the
2:08:54
Department of Justice are very serious. I have not seen one
2:08:57
shred of evidence that it's tied to Joe Biden. Yeah, that's what
2:08:59
it comes down to to me. And by the way, someone who's No, no
2:09:02
Joe Biden fan. Steve Doocy. On Fox News has been hammering
2:09:07
James Comey. Give me one thing, one piece of evidence otherwise
2:09:10
it's a waste of taxpayer dollars.
2:09:11
Joe Biden's crime is being Hunter Biden's father and being
2:09:15
hunted by this very loving father. Very good father very
2:09:19
supportive. Father, father. Did Hunter Biden influence peddle on
2:09:23
his last name? Yes, he did. So did half of Washington. People
2:09:27
sitting at this table did it? Did Joe did Hunter Biden. Biden.
2:09:36
Did Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes? Yes, he did. At this
2:09:41
table peddled. Oh no, I did not talking about currently. Oh, we
2:09:46
just tried to clear our name.
2:09:49
Do I have a claim to fame? Sorry. Back to my point, please.
2:09:54
Yes. Yeah. We've cleared it up. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Did he
2:10:00
Use his last name to make money to Mark did he monetize on Joe
2:10:03
Biden's last name? Yes he did. That's not a crime. Did your
2:10:06
Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes? Yes, he did say he has admitted
2:10:10
it. He paid it back. He paid it back with $600,000 penalty.
2:10:14
Adam Curry: I just love it when the truth comes out. It always
2:10:16
wants to come out. Influence paddlers. Those ladies
2:10:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they used to the the I loved over time
2:10:26
horn or whatever that is the Google came over to a hockey
2:10:30
game.
2:10:31
Adam Curry: I love it. And with that, I'd like to thank you for
2:10:33
your courage in the morning to you the man who put two C's in
2:10:36
the obesogenic environment ladies and gentlemen say hello
2:10:40
to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr. John
2:10:47
John C Dvorak: Murray you Mr. and Karina morning O'Shaughnessy
2:10:49
boots on the ground feeding the air subs into one of the games
2:10:51
nights up there and in
2:10:53
Adam Curry: the morning to the trolls. Trolls hands go look at
2:11:00
you go. They're so tiny. It's hard to count them all. I count
2:11:04
2037 Trolls today in the troll room? How was that? Is that
2:11:10
That's 400
2:11:11
John C Dvorak: low and
2:11:12
Adam Curry: you say that but this just get ready to the it's
2:11:14
the new normal. Just just I mean, how
2:11:18
John C Dvorak: is the time that we do the count? I think people
2:11:21
do slowly move away.
2:11:25
Adam Curry: They move away on to what bigger and better things
2:11:28
John C Dvorak: to what he breakfast,
2:11:32
Adam Curry: please. Oh like a drive. Go
2:11:34
John C Dvorak: to the store. do some shopping. It's Christmas
2:11:36
shopping season. Everyone's out shopping. It is traffic is
2:11:39
jammed up. People are driving around like maniacs.
2:11:41
Adam Curry: You'd think there was shopping there shopping.
2:11:44
Economy is great. There's nothing wrong. There's nothing
2:11:46
going on. But people must be must be loading up their credit
2:11:49
cards. How can it be anything else who has money, the prices
2:11:52
are too high. The rents too high. It's impossible. It's
2:11:56
impossible. Anyway, we do love our trolls. This is a great
2:12:01
opportunity for you to let it all hang out. Just join us live
2:12:06
as you can. On show days Thursdays and Sundays. We do it
2:12:10
live we start at 1pm Central time that's to Eastern and you
2:12:17
can go to troll room.io this, it's really it's just a simple
2:12:20
old chat room. It's me. It's an IRC based chat room. You can
2:12:24
stay logged in all the time. A lot of people do that. Because
2:12:27
of course no agenda stream rolls out and people are responding to
2:12:31
that. So we have lots of live shows. Darren O'Neil does the
2:12:36
show. Did you listen to Darren show this morning? No, I
2:12:38
John C Dvorak: missed it today. How was it that it was a
2:12:41
terrible as usual? Yeah,
2:12:42
Adam Curry: it was just so bad. He didn't play any Taylor Swift.
2:12:48
So yeah, he's got all these drops of you saying Darren
2:12:52
O'Neal sucks. He's got he's got all those
2:12:54
John C Dvorak: using those. Yeah, once you drop, Jared.
2:13:00
Jared Oh, Neil is the best. Oh, he
2:13:03
Adam Curry: did play Taylor Swift. Apparently,
2:13:06
John C Dvorak: he stinks.
2:13:09
Adam Curry: So yeah, go to troll room.io or no agenda stream.com.
2:13:13
Or if you're using one of those swanky modern podcast apps,
2:13:16
it'll let you know when we go live. The new podcast apps are
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great. First of all, if you know if you get thrown off, if any of
2:13:24
your favorite podcast gets thrown off of one of the legacy
2:13:26
apps, I'm talking to Apple, which will happen. You know that
2:13:30
Spotify kicks three, four or five shows a day off of Spotify.
2:13:36
John C Dvorak: But people don't really why what was their what's
2:13:38
their rationale for this dangerous
2:13:40
Adam Curry: speech? I don't know them. They don't really give
2:13:43
reasons they. But there's, you know, there's a whole system.
2:13:47
Because if you have most podcast hosting companies, you can
2:13:50
automatically when you post it or you know, even when you start
2:13:53
your account, it'll set you up on Spotify. They have an
2:13:57
agreement. And excuse me, when Spotify kick someone off, then
2:14:03
they pay automatically ping the podcast hosting company and say
2:14:06
we kick these guys off, but they don't give a reason. They just
2:14:09
tell them so that when people call up the hosting company and
2:14:12
say, Hey, I'm not on Spotify, that they can say yeah, they
2:14:17
kicked you off and you have to take it up with them. It's
2:14:19
horrible. Really. That's horrible. So that
2:14:22
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you Sunday is not horrible. The new
2:14:26
no agenda art works. Site is unbelievable.
2:14:31
Adam Curry: Is it up? Yep. And what? You're a little early. I'm
2:14:34
not quite done with the promotion yet.
2:14:35
John C Dvorak: No, sorry. Okay. I'm just
2:14:38
Adam Curry: you're excited. I understand.
2:14:39
John C Dvorak: I'm jacked up.
2:14:41
Adam Curry: I understand. Me too. So besides the fact that
2:14:46
when we post the show any show you'll be notified within 90
2:14:52
seconds. The show is good to go. You know on some of these legacy
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app, it takes an hour's hours before you find out before
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they're updated. Now Another thing I want to mention value
2:15:02
for value, which we'll talk about in a minute, has this
2:15:05
concept that we've been running for 16 years. Has what? Huh?
2:15:11
What? What? You went, huh? Oh,
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John C Dvorak: I Yeah, no, I was looking at a piece and it looked
2:15:16
at the artist. Oh, yeah. You're not even listening to me. Okay.
2:15:18
I'm sorry. No, I'm listening. You don't have I'm sorry that
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I'm so close to the mic that I I actually went and got your
2:15:25
attention.
2:15:28
Adam Curry: Oh, wake up. Value for value has taken off so big
2:15:33
that now people are running away from Spotify. And they're put
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they are and they're putting their music up on the podcast
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apps that are value for value, the modern podcast idea? Yes.
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Yes. Because it's no different from a podcast and album, you've
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got a feed you put any instead of episodes, its tracks. And
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because we have this live system that we've been pioneering,
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we've been pining for a long time, but now it works and all
2:15:59
the modern apps. December 20, December 21. Live from
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Minneapolis from First Avenue that's Prince's Old, old venue.
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Ainsley Costello and just loud are going to do a live concert
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think Ainsley costello.com You can learn more about it. It's I
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mean, it's gonna be fantastic because it's completely
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independent of all these stupid legacy systems. And I'm very
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well that's a plus. Yeah, well, that it's it's it is the totally
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the feature. So now we're talking about value for value.
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Yes, indeed time talent treasure you can contribute to the show
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sends me a daily news briefing almost. We've got Sarah in the
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Let's talk about it right now. Our artists or artists have been
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years. I can't remember how long it's been going on. It's been
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going on for a long time. And we love using fresh artwork. It
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gives people something to talk about. It looks great in on
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social media, it looks great just everywhere. It you know,
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your podcast app like oh, what is that? Oh, this is different.
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Oh, it's no agenda, of course. So we want to thank networks for
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the artwork for episode 1616. We titled that one buying quiet.
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And this was really the best one that there was, I think we
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looked at a couple of pieces. This is the AI winter is coming.
2:18:01
As he proclaimed the AI Winter is on the way. We had other
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pieces. I'm going now to no agenda art generator.com This is
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it's taken a long time to load, John. This is the brand new,
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revamped after it was down crashed and destroyed for
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several weeks. It's still not loading for me
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John C Dvorak: was because I probably might want you to get
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out one other users
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Adam Curry: me one person at a time.
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John C Dvorak: One person at a time? Well, he says no, it's
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still working out some bugs. And then he's got some of the it's
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not finished. But it's just the new service.
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Adam Curry: Yes, Sir Paul couture, who has been
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maintaining this thing for over a decade? You know, we've had
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some horrible hardware crash. What I'm thinking right now is
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that probably everyone went to our agenda are generated. As I
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said
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John C Dvorak: it Yeah. mentioned it like I got flooded.
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Yeah. So Yeah, makes sense. So it's
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Adam Curry: still not loading for me. So I can't really talk
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about any of the art recamft You have to walk me through it was
2:19:02
there until it loads for me. But
2:19:05
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have those pieces. Shoot,
2:19:08
Adam Curry: is I got a gateway timeout.
2:19:12
John C Dvorak: Oh, crap. Well, he doesn't have those pieces up
2:19:16
from last show. Well,
2:19:17
Adam Curry: then we could just say everything sucked. But this
2:19:19
one from networks? No, they
2:19:21
John C Dvorak: were all there were some good pieces. I thought
2:19:23
all the pieces were usable. But networks I thought was the best
2:19:26
because it just had everything we wanted. And it was aI
2:19:29
obviously, no, it was totally AI everything. You know, we were
2:19:33
kind of resigned, even though I know you were going to reject
2:19:38
all AI forever.
2:19:40
Adam Curry: It's not possible. It's not possible. And no,
2:19:42
John C Dvorak: that's the point. It's not possible. It's become a
2:19:46
pretty good utility. It's futile.
2:19:48
Adam Curry: It's become a pretty good tool for artists who know
2:19:50
how to use and that's really agree at the end of the day, and
2:19:54
I set it on purpose. AI will only benefit the no agenda show
2:19:59
it will do Nothing for humanity. It'll do nothing for business.
2:20:03
It'll do nothing for your spam. It'll only benefit the no agenda
2:20:07
artists. That's the whole point. And I'm happy that there's $100
2:20:11
billion industry just working for us. Good to know.
2:20:16
John C Dvorak: So I'm still trying I ended up with a gateway
2:20:18
timeout while looking at these artworks. She was just you were
2:20:22
just saying can we crashed it?
2:20:24
Adam Curry: Well, the trolls are saying, Oh, whoops. Yeah, I'm
2:20:27
guilty of that. Yeah, we crashed it. I'm
2:20:29
John C Dvorak: okay. We crashed it was my fault for saying
2:20:31
anything. I wasn't thinking clearly. Yeah,
2:20:33
Adam Curry: I know what probably happened because he's still
2:20:36
copying over, like 300 gigabytes of artwork. And that's probably
2:20:41
taxing the system. So while we keep reloading that trolls
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please stop. Why don't we go to the final T of the trifecta
2:20:50
which is treasure and thank our executive and Associate
2:20:53
Executive Producers shortlist today, but we are very happy to
2:20:58
to acknowledge our first executive producer Mike rotch my
2:21:04
crotch I sat down my
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John C Dvorak: garage by the way we were dos the same fast guy
2:21:09
getting a PhD is late because he this was blogging coming.
2:21:14
Adam Curry: I just loved it. His name is Mike rotch I mean
2:21:17
really?
2:21:17
John C Dvorak: Do it is on the bank check. It's in my garage is
2:21:22
Mike right Wow. So we're looking at Jay and I are looking at Holy
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mackerel. I said his parents must have been a couple of
2:21:31
characters Ronnie Hey, I
2:21:35
Adam Curry: know my last name is Rod let's call him Mike Dr sir
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my crotch you can
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John C Dvorak: just imagine what the hunt family
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Adam Curry: powder springs Georgia and he comes in with two
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checks one boobs eight oh dot eight five and then a 211 and he
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says hey and a folder here which means he goes back to daily
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source code days. Thank you. Thank you brother. Don't
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castigate me for operating within the outlined late rules
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211 goes towards double Richards on the big boobs of eight oh dot
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eight five now to be known as double Doctor sir my crotch
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Baron bowl of the lifestyle MD medical doctor at MD media
2:22:21
deconstruction haha he might actually be a doctor. Could be
2:22:26
that's even funnier. My crotch OBGYN why nice requesting Eiffel
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Towers with high fives and twerking Russians for backroom
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festivities of the Round Table you're guessing
2:22:38
John C Dvorak: I'm guessing is a urologist with that name.
2:22:42
Adam Curry: If we love guys like that, Mike you got it you shall
2:22:45
be you shouldn't be the Baron bowl of the lifestyle and
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John C Dvorak: you know a lot of guys and I would do this. You
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take the no agenda diploma which looks exactly like a classic
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diploma because it's because it is and is modeled after some
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dynamite ones that would you know, based on took a while to
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fine tune it. And you'd put it up there on the wall with the
2:23:09
other diplomas and let people see what what happens. That's
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what I do.
2:23:16
Adam Curry: I think lots of good things will come your way. Yeah,
2:23:19
John C Dvorak: people Oh, in the morning. Yes, indeed. Sir.
2:23:23
Spooky is up next. Unless up December. That's all we had to
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do. That's all we had to do nothing. Yes, sir. Spooky is in
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Western Springs, Illinois. 33333. Here, Adam and John. I
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want to celebrate my 33rd birthday on Tuesdays at
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executive producer for the best podcast in the universe plus the
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16th and 17 of this episode number equals 33. Oh no. I
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cannot ignore such a cosmic calling. Please give us your
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strongest goat karma for peace and harmony and 2024 year media
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deconstructs you will be needed more than ever. I'm deeply
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grateful for all you do. Thank you and Merry Christmas love and
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fright, sir spooky of the Elm streets.
2:24:07
Adam Curry: You've got Arma 333 dot 33 Trenton Scoville,
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Charlotte, North Carolina short and sweet Merry Christmas,
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gents. Thank you for the value and thank you for the value sent
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back. By the way, the reminder you can send any amount you want
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a lot of people liked the numerology stuff, but as long as
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it represents the value you got from the show, that's all we ask
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for. Thank you, Trenton.
2:24:34
John C Dvorak: Rita Harrington sparks Nevada also 33333 Merry
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Christmas, John and Adam. David the best podcast in the
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universe. Your sense of humor is just right. Please give me a
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shout out as it's my 66th trip around the sun on 1220 Thanks.
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Reminded
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Adam Curry: from Logan five that the next episode is the golden
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ratio number 1618 Oh, Oh, yes. Can
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John C Dvorak: you get right? Can
2:25:01
Adam Curry: you write that down? You write that down. And I'll
2:25:05
continue with chap. Williams, who, from what I can see your
2:25:09
came in with two checks possibly of 333 dot 33. He's here he's
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listed double. Looks like these are checks. Can you verify
2:25:18
John C Dvorak: objects they don't even say two of them came
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in
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Adam Curry: and he did not have a note which means he gets a
2:25:23
double up karmic. Thank you chap you've got? Yes, of course the
2:25:30
golden ratio was 1.618. Of course, that's the golden ratio.
2:25:35
1618 1.618.
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John C Dvorak: So everyone should give $1.61 and we'll be
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good to go.
2:25:44
Adam Curry: If everyone did, yes.
2:25:46
John C Dvorak: David Mertens, in Edmond, Oklahoma. That'll be the
2:25:50
day if
2:25:50
Adam Curry: everyone, everyone, every single person gives $1.68.
2:25:55
We're done for the rest of the year.
2:25:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah. David Mertens, in Edmond, Oklahoma.
2:26:01
333. This is for the best podcast in the universe. In
2:26:07
celebration of the best Papa in the universe. Ah D DJ and
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Thatcher are so lucky.
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Adam Curry: Now. That sounds like sounds like a good Papa.
2:26:23
There you go. And I'll
2:26:24
John C Dvorak: continue to the end here because there's only
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one Associate Executive Producer. And it just so happens
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to be guest who Linda Lu patcon. in Lakewood, Colorado, who's
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Adam Curry: Yeah, thank you, Linda. Thank you all executive
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on Associate Executive Producer, I told you it's going to be
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short and sweet today. We appreciate that. And not only
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does this mean that you have supported the show, but you also
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recognize some big names in there as well. You can always
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put it on your LinkedIn or Google What are you drinking
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today?
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John C Dvorak: Yes, you can't when you get this microphone is
2:27:45
did I have to turn out it's ever seen actually drinking? Your
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favorite a Topo Chico? Mineral water?
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Adam Curry: Yes. Topo Chico? That is the drink of Texas.
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Everybody loves the toe. Is it a bottle or a can must be a
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bottle. It's
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John C Dvorak: a bottle and I and they haven't had Costco at a
2:28:01
really good price. I
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Adam Curry: heard that the Costco Bordeaux is back.
2:28:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, somebody sent some pictures of it. And I
2:28:08
will say this, that 2021 is not a good vintage and I'm really
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doubtful that this wine is going to be that great. But when I see
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it, I'll try it
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Adam Curry: Topo Chico with a yellow cap. You can look at the
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credits can also put them on your LinkedIn or on your resume.
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It's great. It's good. It's valid forever. And unlike the
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phonies in Hollywood, we'll gladly vouch for you. And John's
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gonna take us through to the 50s and we'll get into our meetups
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and our nice things. Carrie
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John C Dvorak: Wiley starts us off from Arvada, Colorado, and
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she is going to ask for jobs Commerford daughter Kate. She
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came in with 150 bucks we'll give her the jobs calm at the
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end. Bruce Schwalm in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 12345.
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just for men anymore.
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Adam Curry: You know, I have to say, besides the fact that he's
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been donating for months,
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John C Dvorak: I think over a year he
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Adam Curry: his his his his writing is Creative I love it
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John C Dvorak: he's the best speaking of writing Schreiber,
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Madrid and Meryl speaking
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Adam Curry: of writing we were expecting to have some kind of
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write off in the newsletter Tina was all excited about it and
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then you bugged out it was a handwriting Comparison Test yeah
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John C Dvorak: I have to get back to the other woman you're
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gonna have a show to here's where it's gonna go because I've
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got grandiose plans is going to be those to show down into the
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winner takes on the next person who thinks they've got good
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handwriting and we go we go into we get a winner at the end will
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be crown handwriting champion of the no agenda show and where the
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judges right.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, you and me. Yeah, cool. Okay. All right.
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Carry on.
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John C Dvorak: As opposed to who?
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Adam Curry: I just want to make sure we're doing it the way
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these things are always on the wait table
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John C Dvorak: in Africa. We get this done they will be that will
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give us the kind of that is stretching our delta gives you
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the stretching exercises necessary to do the podcasting
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like
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Thank you very much for your super donation and I'm very
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Adam Curry: That's a good one. Have we seen have we ever seen
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Adam Curry: Mike, congratulations on your a
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appreciate the sport, you have offered value for value. We
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don't mess around. There's no paywalls no secret levels, no
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you know that's pretty valuable, send it back to us time talent
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or treasure. No one
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also a great way to pick up some COVID it's perfect if you want
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to get some illness go to go to a meet up because sharing is
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caring and connection is protection. You really need to
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join your community. I'm not kidding about this. It's great
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to be a part of the in person, no agenda community. Lots of
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great meetups happening all around the world. We have two
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reports. This one's from Epping, New Hampshire
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Unknown: in the morning. This is the
2:38:00
Epping New Hampshire center of the universe.
2:38:02
No agenda meto here we are. I am not a douchebag My name is Dave
2:38:08
and I just recently got my official podcasting license
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in the morning. This is Sir pokey first night of the 42 I
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love both you guys and John. I'm still so sorry. You probably
2:38:18
didn't get my email that I apologize because you blocked me
2:38:21
but I'm so sorry. Forgive me. I love you both
2:38:23
in the morning. This is Daniel. Sir Daniel. I don't know. I'm
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not sure yet. It's all I got.
2:38:30
Thank you for your courage.
2:38:31
This is Damon Lydia in the morning. This is Angelica
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Adam Curry: I think there's there should be some kind of a
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special group of people who you've blocked. Now there should
2:38:41
be a block club. Yes. The JCD no agenda block club. I think if
2:38:46
someone should start that now and you have to prove
2:38:49
John C Dvorak: let me say this. Let me say this. Let me say
2:38:51
this.
2:38:52
Adam Curry: Why don't you say something?
2:38:54
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna say this. This is bullcrap. Most of
2:38:56
the people that think they've been blocked or not blocked,
2:38:59
it's the
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Adam Curry: block ease There you go. This your award show
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blocking the no agenda block ease award show. Come on down,
2:39:10
block ease. What do you mean they're blocked? The blog
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they're
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John C Dvorak: not there. The number of people that are
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blocked are very, you know, half of these people they claim
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they're blocked they're not blocked,
2:39:21
Adam Curry: then what are they talking about?
2:39:23
John C Dvorak: I have no idea I know I know your spam if you
2:39:26
Adam Curry: say if you put the word ass even douchebag may get
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kicked back here's your filters there are really tight. This
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tighten and Mike Rochus your filters are so sure that you're
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so tight. Anyway, I would like to know I think y'all should
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start a club hashtag the block ease on no agenda social hashtag
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the block E's and post a screenshot with the error
2:39:52
message that shows that you are blocked it doesn't count if you
2:39:55
use it lewd or lascivious language. And now for the meetup
2:39:59
report from Brooklyn. I expected no less but a full on dynamite
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in your face report. Now we're getting people from all over the
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globe coming to New York City. This issue will destroy New York
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City. This is Gitmo nation's favorite shape systems. You
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correct the record passing the phone around sir spoon maker
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here. Trains good. Cleans bad.
2:40:26
Unknown: This is so boring for the web five in the morning.
2:40:29
Mica rock and roll from the Brooklyn meetups great time.
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Everyone's super chill. In New York. We need more weirdos
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destroy New York City's 17 year anniversary cut the beat up
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shortly. We never had a fight. It was
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David from Brooklyn in the morning. Fergus 33 here. Pretty
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cool maker. Says Dan from New Jersey in the morning. Hi this
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experiment they weren't the only dudes here. Hi, this is Tanya
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I'm trapped in a 10 to the 13 strange men. I now know how it
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feels to get banned from the city we knew
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without to lose.
2:41:09
Adam Curry: Thank you, Brooklyn. Brooklyn does not disappoint.
2:41:12
Love that. Meetup is taking place today. The X s the SXM
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salt and soda water meetup that is underway now. Oh yes. St.
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Martin is probably underway now a tonne of Fat Tony Smokehouse
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Sen report. People want to know how that went. We have long
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views. Lively laugh loaded mid mouth, mid month monthly meet
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Unknown: you go hang out with Tyson day you won't be triggered
2:43:03
everybody feels the same it's like a body
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Adam Curry: like a pot. I'm gonna have to do my ISOs first
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I'm over I sewed over it Yeah Have I got too many too many got
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I'm over I so I'm over it hit it alright cute Yes. Cute is
2:43:28
exactly the right term.
2:43:29
John C Dvorak: Amaze estar ass
2:43:31
Adam Curry: okay right right yes loved it. Hmm we'll sell so deja
2:43:38
vu I kind of like that one. And I hate this I have that I think
2:43:47
the best is a feel show deja vu. We like that one. Deja vu. Deja
2:43:53
vu?
2:43:54
John C Dvorak: Because it is kind of different. Mine are more
2:43:57
direct. Okay. I mean they're designed to actually be used.
2:44:01
Adam Curry: Oh please.
2:44:03
John C Dvorak: I saw the start with good podcast
2:44:05
Unknown: is so good. As
2:44:07
Adam Curry: you say podcast is so good. Yeah. That again,
2:44:11
little muddy is too bad with his little money podcast is so good.
2:44:19
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's good laughs and giggles and everyone
2:44:21
laughs and everyone giggles
2:44:23
Adam Curry: Okay, that's a good one. I like that one. Yes, I
2:44:26
like it
2:44:26
John C Dvorak: and then the one that's the obvious one is the is
2:44:29
the good job. Wow, good job.
2:44:35
Adam Curry: We have a winner. We have a winner we have a winner.
2:44:39
I hope you don't mind but I think I have the story today
2:44:47
John C Dvorak: we're going to have a good eat have a good
2:44:49
story yeah
2:44:49
Adam Curry: good news. So I think I have one I think I have
2:44:52
a good well we can do a
2:44:53
John C Dvorak: good news stories showdown. I don't know if you're
2:44:55
gonna beat mine because mine is a tear jerker.
2:44:59
Adam Curry: News everyone all right, we'll start with mine. We
2:45:02
go to Nashville.
2:45:03
Unknown: This is what's left of the room where Sydney Moore was
2:45:05
laying on top of her one year old shielding him from the
2:45:08
tornado. As her four month old baby got sucked away, and her
2:45:12
mobile home, demolished, towering over the rubble of her
2:45:16
mobile home and shadowing her crushed car. Sydney's kids play
2:45:19
pin is wrapped around a tree, a jarring reminder of how easily
2:45:23
the tornado tossed their four month old baby to the wind. The
2:45:27
roof came
2:45:28
off first, the tip of the tornado came down and picked up
2:45:30
the bassinet with my baby Lord in it. And he was the first
2:45:33
thing to go up
2:45:34
in his attempt to keep the bassinet inside her boyfriend
2:45:37
and father of her children was sucked up with it. Mom same time
2:45:40
in the back bedroom, needs to move her body on top of their
2:45:44
one year old son shielding him. Literally
2:45:46
the moment I jumped on him. The walls collapsed. I was being
2:45:49
really crushed. Like I couldn't breathe.
2:45:52
The couple frantically searched through the rubble in the
2:45:54
pouring rain for the infant. I
2:45:56
thought he was dead. Pretty sure he was dead and we weren't gonna
2:45:59
be able find him. Then
2:46:00
a miracle they found baby Lord alive with just a cut on his
2:46:05
face.
2:46:06
And it looks like a little tree cradle. It was just laying
2:46:10
there.
2:46:11
The entire family survived. Now as she walks back down to where
2:46:15
her home used to be pulling it off Sydney's recalling how she
2:46:19
thought this would never happen to her family. Everything could
2:46:23
be taken like that. The kids that she risked her life to save
2:46:26
sleeping peacefully tonight. Like
2:46:29
those those kids are what saved me. They saved me from
2:46:33
everything. And I don't know what I would have done without
2:46:35
them. Okay,
2:46:36
Adam Curry: I think when you have a story of a baby getting
2:46:40
sucked up by a tornado. Yeah, the dad getting sucked up by the
2:46:44
tornado. What
2:46:45
John C Dvorak: happened to him by the way he end up in a tree
2:46:47
we didn't have hurt we knew know the baby did.
2:46:50
Adam Curry: The kid's name is Lord. I mean, this has good news
2:46:55
written all over and it was one minute and 30 seconds.
2:46:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I like to time mines too long. But
2:47:01
mine is more of a tree. It also it not only has good news
2:47:06
written all over it, it has books written all over it. It
2:47:11
wouldn't have said that baby with the Lord in there. That was
2:47:16
the that was the me checkmark, folks.
2:47:21
Unknown: When do we want it? Now please get in in the crevices of
2:47:25
a canyon county Ridge, a missing woman's life was left up to
2:47:29
Eddie. Now we're doing this and chase. It's crazy. We're
2:47:33
partners and hunters.
2:47:35
We don't come out here in the winter. There's no reason for us
2:47:38
to asides to look. And they couldn't believe what there's a
2:47:41
car down here or who right down in the little crevice aid found
2:47:44
in the corner in the tumbleweeds and we climbed down a little
2:47:48
investigation in the car and that's when we found pennies
2:47:50
information. I put pennies named Penny say Clark in on Facebook,
2:47:54
and that's when it popped up. A
2:47:56
72 year old woman having no recent contact with her family
2:48:00
Canyon County Sheriff Karen Donohue had already been looking
2:48:04
for pen
2:48:04
no one would have looked here. Really there's just there's been
2:48:07
no reason to
2:48:07
look here. No reason to be there at all. So we
2:48:10
were I mean out under those clouds. And we decided to just
2:48:15
make a random turn and get out come back out this way. And this
2:48:18
is where we ended up
2:48:19
Eddie and chase called 911 explaining the car, the crash
2:48:24
the scene
2:48:25
and then one of the officers looks past the car with a
2:48:27
binoculars and sees part of her and sees her moving her
2:48:32
extremities you know me and chase her in the truck filling
2:48:35
out reports and one of the cops yelled Penny Good
2:48:39
Lord, not only have we found her, she's still alive. With
2:48:42
help
2:48:42
from Idaho mountain search and rescue. They tracked penny off
2:48:46
the ridge and flew her to a nearby hospital.
2:48:51
No broken bones. You know, she was just cold, hungry and tired.
2:48:55
And I can't I can't say enough what a miracle that is. You
2:48:59
know,
2:49:00
in my experience, this is a less than 1% chance of surviving this
2:49:05
God had a different plan.
2:49:06
Multiple agencies coordinated the rescue. But the highest
2:49:10
ranking law enforcement officer in the county knows where to
2:49:13
direct praise. They're the true heroes here. They really are.
2:49:17
They're the ones that saved this woman's life but Eddie and chase
2:49:20
and just they don't need the credit. I don't know kind of
2:49:23
lost for words.
2:49:24
They already got the payment of a lifetime
2:49:27
and pennies daughter arrived on scene when Penny got down to the
2:49:32
ambulance. She said I never thought listening to my mom
2:49:35
snore in a hospital bed would be the best Christmas present you
2:49:40
know to receive and I hope your Christmas is just as as
2:49:44
specialists this it really hit home.
2:49:46
Adam Curry: Alright you get a point for the Christmas message.
2:49:49
The length is too long is disqualified. I disqualified
2:49:54
disqualifies. I have to like
2:49:57
John C Dvorak: I it was 240 I couldn't Cut in a I tried to get
2:50:01
under two it was it was long but it had it flowed so well. With
2:50:07
this last penny the doofus is yes,
2:50:10
Adam Curry: this is a hoax that just happen to be out there. Oh,
2:50:13
Unknown: they're high horses. Oh,
2:50:15
Adam Curry: they're hiking with a helicopter. Sure. Yeah, that's
2:50:18
what I do. Oh, let's hop on the chopper. It's a just 72 What
2:50:21
you're not dead at 72 Like, oh,
2:50:26
John C Dvorak: you can we will just call it a draw. Oh, no. The
2:50:31
wind from
2:50:34
Unknown: from JCD happy vibes for you and me and we all feel
2:50:40
better. Now he's done his bit. To back to reality. That's
2:50:45
turning to shit. Alright,
2:50:48
Adam Curry: we'll call it no winner. No winner, although I
2:50:51
think getting sucked up by a tornado, your kids name and if
2:50:55
they had thrown a Christmas vibe in there, like just in time for
2:50:58
Christmas, baby Lord is safe. That would have been a winner. I
2:51:03
mean, there's just there's no two ways about it.
2:51:08
John C Dvorak: I reserve judgment on the sucked up by a
2:51:11
tornado story. Do you? Do you have a husband too? I guess.
2:51:16
There you go. We didn't
2:51:17
Adam Curry: we never heard from him again.
2:51:18
John C Dvorak: He's still in a visit. If you guys if
2:51:22
Adam Curry: he would happen there. Let's see. We probably
2:51:26
should.
2:51:26
John C Dvorak: By the way, you know people who've ever been
2:51:28
used in a tornado where they've been actually outside. Basic.
2:51:32
They've all reported kind of the same thing. You are head to toe
2:51:37
covered with splinters. Yeah,
2:51:40
Adam Curry: it could be Yeah. Well, baby Lord only had a
2:51:43
scratch some
2:51:44
John C Dvorak: alias scratches. Another thing that bothers me.
2:51:48
Adam Curry: I have two AI clips if you want we could end with or
2:51:52
do you have something that you'd like to end with? No,
2:51:55
John C Dvorak: I guess this stuff can be moved. I don't have
2:51:57
anything that's critical. If AI is great. We haven't talked
2:52:00
about AI for weeks.
2:52:03
Adam Curry: Chow was missing my AI stories. Well, this was on
2:52:09
CNN, it was rather peculiar. Because they're anti AI.
2:52:18
John C Dvorak: I don't really well, they should be with
2:52:21
channel one.ai. coming down the pike. Maybe
2:52:24
Adam Curry: that's why they did this particular story. AI
2:52:27
Unknown: is the life work of Georgia Tech professor and
2:52:30
researcher, Matthew Gambale.
2:52:31
It's not ready for deployment. It's not a product yet.
2:52:35
So do you think it should be used by police departments?
2:52:38
Certainly not. A report by Georgetown Law estimates that as
2:52:41
of 2016, one in two American adults is in a law enforcement
2:52:44
face recognition network. And it can happen without your consent
2:52:48
or knowledge. This
2:52:49
technology is not accurate for the way it's being used. When
2:52:52
you ask a question. Like, is this person's face match up with
2:52:58
a fugitive? You can have a 99.7% accuracy rate. It's really good.
2:53:03
Sounds really good. But what if you ask that same question 300
2:53:08
million times you deploy these things at scale at a population
2:53:11
level, you're going to get a tremendous number of false
2:53:14
positives.
2:53:15
Depending on your race that accuracy drops even more at
2:53:18
2019. US government study of 200 facial recognition algorithms
2:53:22
found some of them up to 100 times more likely to miss
2:53:25
identify people of color compared to white people
2:53:28
gambling. To the test, we will see what happens. Wait using
2:53:33
pictures of CNN journalists, these Georgia Tech researchers
2:53:36
he created a virtual lineup and told the AI to identify my face
2:53:40
get
2:53:40
works about some of the time though it says no face. Like
2:53:45
here, just thought that you were Victor Blackwell.
2:53:47
I thought that I was Victor Blackwell. Yes. Victor Blackwell
2:53:50
is a black man. Yes.
2:53:51
What does that say that says that these algorithms are not
2:53:54
ready for primetime.
2:53:56
And building the algorithm. You can teach the AI to be
2:53:59
racist. Yes, you can absolutely teach the algorithms to be
2:54:02
racist, the algorithm doesn't care. The algorithm just wants
2:54:05
to do a good job at the task you've given it. And in this
2:54:09
case, you're telling it that if you're black, you're more likely
2:54:12
to have committed the crimes.
2:54:14
That's the data that you
2:54:15
Adam Curry: fit in. That's the part that I liked about the
2:54:18
store. What bull crap versus bull crap. There's like, you can
2:54:22
teach the AI to be racist. Oh, yeah. So it showed a black man
2:54:26
because he's more likely to have committed the crime. I mean, I'm
2:54:30
anti AI, but even I'm not buying that bullcrap.
2:54:34
John C Dvorak: No, this is bad. That was a bad report.
2:54:36
Adam Curry: It was a great report. You're talking about
2:54:40
shows that this is all book. Okay. All right. All right. Do
2:54:45
you have anything better?
2:54:46
John C Dvorak: I can tell you this. I mean, I went through
2:54:48
these facial recognition systems years ago. 12 years ago. It's
2:54:54
not even AI. They weren't great and had nothing to do with AI.
2:54:58
No, they don't
2:55:00
Adam Curry: I got someone telling me AI can't do math
2:55:04
because it's a large language model. Well, dude, someone needs
2:55:07
to work on the marketing because these things are being sold as
2:55:10
the next best thing since sliced bread. And they're not AI
2:55:14
winters come in. It's come in, just
2:55:18
John C Dvorak: stick to your thesis as good AI
2:55:20
Adam Curry: Winter is Coming billions of dollars. It's next
2:55:23
up. We all know what it's going to be. Quantum Computing.
2:55:28
John C Dvorak: It happened before quantum computing is a
2:55:30
dead end. Yeah, well,
2:55:32
Adam Curry: they need something to prop up the stock market.
2:55:35
Coming up next. I know AGENDA stream.com We have oh, the
2:55:39
airline pilot guide. They haven't heard from him in a
2:55:42
while.
2:55:43
John C Dvorak: That's good. That's a good show.
2:55:44
Adam Curry: That was a very good show. It's one of the better
2:55:46
aviation podcasts out there and you get your troll room.io You
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can listen in use the monitor podcast app as well. I have a
2:55:53
Christmas end of show mix for you. You'll love it. We have
2:55:59
John C Dvorak: Leon the indie show mix, which you played
2:56:01
earlier is dynamite.
2:56:02
Adam Curry: We have Sir Chris Wilson and Maddie j and this
2:56:06
will get you in the mood for Christmas. I guarantee you.
2:56:11
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA
2:56:14
Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
2:56:18
curry. And
2:56:19
John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where it's
2:56:20
raining. It's about time I'm John C. Dvorak.
2:56:24
Adam Curry: We return on Thursday, which will be the 21st
2:56:28
countdown to Christmas. We'll be working on Christmas Eve as
2:56:31
well. We love it. It's what we do time talent treasure remember
2:56:34
us at the vortech.org/na until Thursday, everybody adios mofos
2:56:39
who we who we end such
2:56:42
Unknown: a debate about the gender of Santa Claus has now
2:56:45
broke out on Facebook after and mother in England because she
2:56:48
had been shamed for not using a gender neutral name for Santa
2:56:51
Claus. And the mother claimed in the viral post that she had been
2:56:55
attacked for using the name Father Christmas to describe the
2:56:59
bearded character.
2:57:01
This caused everybody in the Facebook group to completely
2:57:04
erupt and explode on her. How dare you refer to Santa Claus as
2:57:09
Father Christmas? Because they think a big fat man with a long
2:57:14
white curly beard might be a chick. They might want to date
2:57:19
that chick
2:57:21
stole my childhood Christmas Christmas Christmas person
2:57:34
Christmas I thought they're suggesting but he's a bloke and
2:57:37
what are we gonna do with Mother Nature? Father
2:57:40
Adam Curry: Time it needs work I have to go
2:57:50
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Comes now the big hand. Christmas 1941. The weeks after
2:58:46
Pearl Harbor, Franklin Delano Roosevelt hosted at Churchill in
2:58:50
this White House. Together they plan the most travel year of
2:58:54
yours. Near the assassination and ride of war and chaos. Still
2:58:59
today in our own time, our own life. So this Christmas, let's
2:59:04
spread low poison. The pandemic has taken so much from us. Loss
2:59:09
hope, love, peace and joy. No face at all. I hope this
2:59:14
Christmas season marks a fresh start our nation affected our
2:59:18
politics has set us against one another. We see each other as
2:59:22
enemies not as neighbors as Democrats or Republicans not as
2:59:26
fellow Americans. So angry. So mean so partisan, great pain,
2:59:32
federal owners all across the country for a million lives lost
2:59:37
in America alone. Whether Christian, Jewish, Hindu,
2:59:41
Muslim, Buddhist, that's a million empty chair. You know, I
2:59:45
believe Christmas is a season of breaking hearts and homes all
2:59:49
across the country. Mr. Stone Mr. Stone Mr. Stone
3:00:05
Anything that remotely resembles crack cocaine 30 days without
3:00:11
sleeping
3:00:12
Adam Curry: too much.
3:00:18
Unknown: Chance dodge Hannah is as low trust China. China is as
3:00:23
home. China, Walker Christmas, the United States, the United
3:00:29
States, Chinese as Oh, China was the United States,
3:00:36
the United States, the United States, the United States, the
3:00:39
United States.
3:00:41
Why would I be talking about Winnie the Pooh so much Winnie
3:00:43
the Pooh is constantly being banned in China. And that's
3:00:46
because the leader Xi Jinping is very sensitive and he doesn't
3:00:51
like the fact that people compare him to Winnie the Pooh,
3:00:54
China is
3:00:57
China versus the United States. The United States. Chinese as
3:01:03
Oh, China, why is the United States
3:01:09
The United States, the United States, the United States, the
3:01:11
United States.
3:01:14
China is as Oh China us as home.
3:01:38
Adam Curry: Adios MoPhO
3:01:39
Unknown: boruch.org/in A Wow,
3:01:46
good job.
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