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Unknown: Take her up.
Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi
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media assassination episode
1617. This
Unknown: is no agenda,
Adam Curry: anarchy on the
airwaves and we're broadcasting
live from the heart of the Texas
Hill Country here. FEMA reached
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I've
noticed Megyn Kelly has ozempic
face. I'm John C. Dvorak. Greg
Hill.
Adam Curry: You You notice that
after I told you she had that?
Come on? Yeah, man.
John C Dvorak: After you told me
I didn't get I was lucky. I
wasn't. What can I say? Took me
a wild. One view is oh my god,
this is not good. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I told you. I told
you.
John C Dvorak: I am indebted to
your accuracy.
Adam Curry: Well, since you
since you brought it up right
away. I think we need to look at
the script. Because they're
unhinged and out of control. The
house people, the United States
media apparatus is controlled by
big pharma, and they do not have
your best interests at heart.
Please believe me when I say
this, ah, they Okay, so remember
Sanjay Gupta from CNN, what I
had on the last show where he
was reading the script, and it
was like, the
John C Dvorak: guy that that
Rogen chewed out on his show on
a horse paste.
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. So,
you know, ivermectin. Oh, that's
horse pace. What are you doing
now, if you're using the generic
because that's what geo
semaglutide is. It's generic
GLP. One.
John C Dvorak: This is just a
cheap peptide anyone can get if
you're
Adam Curry: using this and
you're getting it from a
pharmacy that does compounding
which Big Pharma has hated
forever. You are now poisoning
yourself this. Sanjay Gupta said
on the last show, we had his
script he rolled it out. There's
a 15 100% increase in people
overdosing on GLP one drugs, but
it's not ozempic. And we'll go V
No, they have dials that show
you so you can't overdose. No.
It's people using not just
compounded versions, not just
generic versions. Oh, no. We're
improving the script. We're
calling them knock offs. Yes,
Abc New York
Unknown: fact that was a totally
new reporting on all these
weight loss drugs that we've
been hearing about. It's hard to
keep tabs on what's going on
with which ones everyday but
this new reporting talks about
the poison control centers
across the United States.
They're now reporting an uptick
in calls related to accidental
overdoses of some magnitude.
That's the injection medication
used for diabetes and weight
loss. They've become so popular
with these names like ozempic
and Wigo. V. Yeah,
so from January through
November, poison centers
reported nearly 3000 calls
involving semaglutide. And that
is more than a 15 fold increase
since 2019. Poison Control
Centers say that they believe
that dosing issues involve
knockoff or compounded versions
of the drug and that is behind
many of the calls
Adam Curry: knock offs knock
offs. This is outrageous
language.
John C Dvorak: Well let's let's
stop there.
Adam Curry: I have a couple more
so I guess we're pausing guys
John C Dvorak: want to go to the
term knockoff, which stems from
the fashion industry? Oh, yes.
And in the fashion industry,
because there's no copyright on
on dress designs. A couture guy,
some guy making fancy dresses
are gonna go out and showed off
the current styles and then the
cheap guys will not do knock
offs. She implies a cheap copy,
copy. That's not the same.
Adam Curry: Ah, you know, the
only thing that is patented for
these drugs certainly for
ozempic is the dial is the
dosage dial. That's their
patent. Did the semaglutide is
out of patent. It's a bit I
don't know if it's, if you can,
if you they can read patented.
It's been around, but they've
repackaged it I'm sure they put
some other magic potions in
there. Let's have a listen here
to Good Morning America since
2019.
Unknown: The percentage of
patients receiving a semaglutide
prescription has increased well
over 900%. A surge led largely
by their patients lose weight,
but more patients means more
accidents and Miss applications,
particularly with injecting
improper doses. Charles
McPherson has been taking those
epics since April to manage his
diabetes but says he initially
took the wrong
Adam Curry: dosage? Oh, no,
Unknown: I didn't feel well had
the flu or I didn't feel well,
you'll well for a couple of
days. So I want to
John C Dvorak: stop for a
second. How to heat it up? Are
you injecting yourself with this
stuff? Yeah, there's no
instructions were how do you
take the wrong dosage of
something like this was an
injectable and only get once a
week
Adam Curry: they're going to
insinuate that people are
morons, people are idiots, and
certainly the idiots who get you
know, just plain old GLP one
drugs from a compounding
pharmacy. You're idiots. You're
morons, you don't know what
you're doing? Don't worry, we're
getting to it all. It's
important that you take note of
the horrible side effects of
overdosing and
Unknown: feel well, it's like I
had the flu or something. I
still didn't feel well for a
couple of days. So I went into
the emergency room.
And with those major brand
names, so highly sought after
many people are turning to
imitation or compounded
imitation. That's where he saw
those errors. manufactured
product comes in a pen that has
prefilled doses, it's less
likely for patients to give the
wrong dose. Whereas a lot of the
compounded formulations. They're
dispensed in vials with needles
and syringes, and it's up to the
patients to draw out the correct
amount of medication to
administer to themselves.
Adam Curry: Yes, oh, we can't
leave that up to those people.
People have been injecting
themselves with drugs for
centuries, probably. Well, not
centuries for decades. CBS
though has a different slant on
it. They're gonna take it
somewhere that we couldn't even
even take it with COVID
vaccines.
Unknown: The FDA has issued a
new warning about some of the
popular Diabetes drugs being
used for weight loss. The agency
says it has quote received
adverse event reports. Patients
use Oh compound.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, did
they check the various database
now all of a sudden because they
have adverse event reports? Oh,
goodness, I thought you never
looked at that. I thought it
wasn't reliable.
Unknown: semaglutide. That's the
generic name for medications
like ozempic and Wigo V. People
tend to purchase compounded or
off brand versions online or
when freshers run out. The FDA
says this often happens when
certain medications like those
weight loss drugs are in high
demand.
Adam Curry: Thanks for the
commentary. So this, this last
news clip, I'm going to include
the whole script because these
two Arizona NBC affiliate ladies
did a great I mean, bonus for
you ladies bonus bonus bonus.
Because there's two parts of the
script one is that we have a 15
fold increase in people
overdosing. And that is of
course because of the knockoffs
imitation the compounded Lemo
non special cartridge dial
versions. The second part of the
script is and they all had the
same script is what you feel
like when you've overdosed on
your fake knockoff version. The
symptoms of overdosing are
exactly the same as the side
effects that you can possibly
have. Nausea, vomiting,
vomiting, diarrhea, slow colon
action. from Mattel. They are
the exact they are exactly the
same. So part of the script is
to say, and I think they're
doing this to move people's
focus away from the side effects
which suck ask Sharon Osbourne
you know, I wish we could ask
Megan Kelly, she'll never ask me
back on again. When she did I'd
say hey, well, you pooping your
guts out during this thing?
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Oh, geez, you
wouldn't do that. Yeah, I would
be a talker.
Adam Curry: So that's, that's
part of the expected and
possible side effects. I think
what they're now doing is that
if you have the side effects,
then they then they will call
your doctor of course you say
hey, I you know, am I overdose
we should probably lower your
dose or whatever. They're trying
to minimize the actual side
effects by calling them effects
of overdosing or taking too
much. Listen to these two ladies
from NBC Arizona. They did a
great job.
Unknown: It's believed knockoff
versions of the drugs behind
many of the calls. So let's talk
about it. Joining me now is Dr.
Soto harder with Dignity Health
Medical Group? This is
astonishing. So no, I cannot
believe the huge spike. Why are
we seeing so many overdoses? So
first of all the prescriptions
percent Prescriptions have gone
up about 900% since 2019. So we
all have some other titles very
widely used now for diabetes as
well as obesity. But here's the
other two It is actually dosing
errors is what we are noticing
in all these poisoning calls.
And number one, so the
prescription FDA approved
medication comes in a prefilled
syringe would
Adam Curry: be approved notice
this the approved medication.
approved medication
Unknown: comes in a prefilled
syringe, which is easier to use.
However, patients still have to
dial in a number, okay for the
dose. Now, if you're not
properly educated on how to do
this, you could dial in a wrong
number. For example, there was a
patient who was supposed to take
about point one milliliters of
the dose and she injected one
milliliter, which is Whoa.
Adam Curry: Like she knows,
Unknown: liters of the dose and
she
John C Dvorak: injected one
actually, the better line would
be Oh, that must be twice as
much.
Unknown: milliliters of the dose
injected one milliliter, which
is Whoa, so and these
medications hang around for one
week, when you inject them,
there is no way to these
medications, meaning you really
have to take care of the
symptoms, while the body clears
the medications. Okay.
And when you're talking about
the symptoms and the
complications, I mean, what are
we talking about here? Nausea,
vomiting GI symptoms, like
diarrhea, constipation, also
paralysis of your colon at times
in extreme cases, but very low
sugar seizures, those are some
fatigue and shaking powers.
These are some common symptoms
that patients can have a dose of
these medications
that is frightening, okay,
there's a few I mean, you just
got to wait it out and go
through all the symptoms for a
week.
So communicate with your health
provider at all times, even if
they're mild symptoms, because
you might get some guidance on
how to combat that. If you
severe symptoms, emergency room
IV fluids, something for
vomiting, something too,
obviously, and obviously
discontinuing these medications
at that point. Yeah. So pay
attention to the dosage.
Absolutely. And learn from the
providers how to actually dose
and how to take these
medications. Very important.
Okay. Excellent advice. Sonal.
Thank you. I know we're going to
talk to you in a couple of
minutes. That's
Adam Curry: right. We're gonna
do it all over again. And they
did it again. They did another
report. So everybody's on the
take. This is every one is on
the take. And I have some some
evidence to back that up. But
let's not forget America's
favorite conservative doctor
from Fox News, Doc Siegel. Oh,
he was all in on the COVID
shots. Remember him on Tucker
Carlson? Oh, yeah, Tucker, and
he hates marijuana. Oh, target
marijuana, no good. But this
stuff. This is the tests.
Unknown: We've been talking all
about people using ozempic for
weight loss. But many of the
users report a decrease in
anxiety and depression since
they started using batteries. He
feel better. Anxiety. That's
what they say. Doc Siegel is
going to straighten it all out
for us. He is with us right now.
Weight Loss drugs like ZMP, the
treating binge eating disorders
as well. Is this a new all
purpose class of drugs? Nothing,
you
know, stored it maybe I'll tell
you I say maybe because what we
can't prove yet is whether these
effects are the benefits of
looking down and saying Hey,
where'd my gut go, right? So you
feel better? You look better.
And maybe that decreases your
depression. But increasing
studies are showing a very
positive effect of ozempic. And
with govi and majoro on the
brain, what are they doing?
They're stabilizing neurons in
the brain. They're decreasing
that surge of dopamine that you
get right after you eat that
causes more reading. It's
addictive eating. When it when
it tastes good. You get the
hormone and this is actually
blocking it. What is ozempic do
by the way, it stops sugar
released from the liver. It
causes delayed emptying of the
gut. And and this is the key and
a big study in South Korea is
showing this it works on the
hormones in the brain. It causes
the brain hormones to change so
you don't feel hungry. And you
also don't feel anxious. This
all I'm buying this. I think
that this is this is a real
find.
Adam Curry: It's a real finding.
Yeah, Doc. It's a real finding
from a breakthrough study in
Korea. Yeah, sure. So Reuters
did a huge article on doctors
getting paid as consultants, by
the way, anyone remember the
Sacklers? I don't remember how
that went with the opioid
opioids. Everyone getting paid?
Yeah, just double the dose. So
one of the doctors according to
this report from Reuters, which
we'll just have to say, we're
gonna have to take that as fact,
who's expected who's been
accepting money from Novo
Nordisk, and by the way, you'll
hear that the script is only for
Wigo V and ozempic. But they're
not talking about as any of the
other brands, certainly not
Manjaro or deskbound. So one of
the doctors accepting the money
is Dr. Anya Juster, broth of
Yale University Center for
Weight Management. And she has
received $130,000 For as a
consultant to this company in in
Denmark. ARCU I guess needs her
services. But there's a list
this, this must be a 3000 word
article. Oh, and once you know
it, here she is on her own
little, little YouTube channel
semaglutide.
Unknown: Like other medications
that are used for obesity
treatment have to be taken long
term. Just as for any other
chronic disease, if a medication
is stopped for any reason, the
disease is no longer being
treated. So for example, if
somebody is taking a medication
for hypertension, if you stop
that antihypertensive
medication, the blood pressure
goes up and we're not surprised.
In the same way if someone is
taking medication for obesity
treatment when it is stopped,
weight gain occurs or weight
regain occurs more accurately.
Why is this? So obesity is a
chronic disease. It's a neuro
metabolic disease. What?
Adam Curry: It's a neuro
metabolic disease. This is part
of the changing of
John C Dvorak: the truth. Yeah,
no, they've been working on this
one for a while. And
Adam Curry: she's paid to to
confuse you with language. And
I'm telling you, you have a
disease, meaning
Unknown: that our body and our
brain talk to each other. What
happens is our body is very,
very smart. It wants to carry a
certain amount of fuel. And the
way that our body does this is
by carrying shaft, and our body
does not want to carry too
little fat because then we would
starve and our body also doesn't
want to carry too much fat
because then we would not be
able to do the things that we
need to do and have our body
functions well. And so there's a
sweet spot. Oh, and we call that
sweet spot that defended fat
mass setpoint
Adam Curry: the defended fat
mass setpoint.
John C Dvorak: I like the idea
of a fat man. And
Unknown: so it's basically the
amount of fuel or the amount of
fat that your body wants to
carry. Now within the context of
our current obesogenic
environment, obesogenic
Adam Curry: environment
John C Dvorak: like that one too
obesogenic.
Adam Curry: How do they come up
with this stuff,
Unknown: obesogenic environment
with all of these highly
palatable?
John C Dvorak: For Chautala
obesogenic Yeah, obesity, well,
I'll go fat mass, I want to fat
mess anything like a fat blah.
Unknown: We'll get into that
later. You want us to carry now
within the context of our
current obesogenic environment.
So an environment with all of
these highly palatable, highly
processed foods. The lack of
sleep, the lack of
Adam Curry: an obesogenic
environment is basically when
you live in McDonald's.
Unknown: In physical activity,
lack of sleep,
Adam Curry: yeah, lack of sleep.
That's part of your obesogenic
environment.
Unknown: highly palatable,
highly processed, highly
palatable.
Adam Curry: What is what does
that mean in this context?
John C Dvorak: is tasty. They
put a bunch of salt and fat
sugar
Unknown: on all of these highly
palatable, highly processed
foods. The lack of sleep, the
lack of movement and physical
activity.
Adam Curry: Yes, yes, that makes
sense.
Unknown: Yes, life podcast.
Adam Curry: I tried to stand
sometimes during the podcast,
movement
Unknown: and physical activity,
stress all these different
things in our obesogenic
environment that has pushed up
the defended fat mass setpoint
on a population level
Adam Curry: ball beautifully.
Well said, Here's your check.
John C Dvorak: Here's your I'll
tell you I pay her to straight
to hell.
Adam Curry: She's going I'm
telling you. This came up in the
Senate. And I mean, Bernie
Sanders. Everyone's all in and
it's, of course, our obesogenic
environment. It's really the
It's the food guys. The food
guys, it's their fault, because
they're creating an obesogenic
environment
John C Dvorak: to put a Senate
committee together with Nadler
running.
Adam Curry: Luckily, at the end,
there's there's one little
kicker of sanity from the
doctor. Senators
Unknown: say last year, the US
spent nearly 413 billion should
Adam Curry: probably say this,
again, is about trying to get
this stuff onto Medicare. They
desperately want it to be paid
for by the rest of America.
Senator
Unknown: say last year, the US
spent nearly $413 billion
treating the millions in the US
with diabetes.
That's up 27%. Over the past six
years,
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders
says it's only expected to get
worse the
number of children in America
with type two diabetes is
estimated to skyrocket by nearly
700% Over the next 40 years.
Number one Thursday, Dr. Keisha
told senators on the Senate
Health Education Labor and
Pensions Committee that rising
insulin prices put some of her
patients health in jeopardy
what happened insist that
patients cannot afford those
medications. And so they go
without Senator
say with many Americans turning
to drugs like ozempic to improve
other conditions like obesity.
It's harder for their
constituents to even access the
diabetes drug.
How can Congress ensure that all
populations that can benefit
from this medication have access
to it, the supply
issue is important. But there's
also really important shortages
because of the price
and Sanders says Congress also
needs to address how to prevent
obesity in the first place.
A good place to start would be
to ban junk food ads targeted to
children's
Adam Curry: keep the farmer ads
banned the junk food ads after
Unknown: this. Congress needs to
do more to hold both the food
and drug industries accountable.
We
have a food industry that
profits from making people sick,
and a drug industry that profits
from treating them. Thank
Adam Curry: you, doctor. There
you go. Give that lady a check.
That is exactly what's going on.
The food companies keep you
sick. And the pharmaceutical
industry gives you drugs to keep
you just healthy enough to
John C Dvorak: live enough to go
buy more crappy food. Yes
Adam Curry: to push the button
fill out the form. buy more
food. Eat some meats people eat
some meat. It's unbelievable.
This is this is an all out
assault. And assault on people.
Oh, don't worry about it. You
can just you know where do you
live? Oh, oh, you're in an
obesogenic environment. No
problem. We got this special.
Don't take don't take the cheap
one. Ah, because that'll make
you poop. No. You want this one
with the dial on it. Ah. Protect
your children please. As
unbelievable these people go.
Anyway, that was my big pharma
report. Congratulations,
everybody.
John C Dvorak: Yes, he scraped
two or three more of these.
Well, this
Adam Curry: was the script. I
mean, I don't know if they're
going to come up with another
angle. I couldn't have they
would have clips. Of course they
will. I could have clipped five
more locals and learning shows.
You know what? The country know
what to expect next I expect
John C Dvorak: ever forbids
giving us any news world news
report.
Adam Curry: Here's what I
expect. I expect before the year
is out. We will see a morning
news person self injecting on
camera just to show how easy it
is with the dial.
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not
going to condemn you for
predicting the obvious.
Adam Curry: I just want to see
it.
John C Dvorak: But I agree.
You're probably right. Some
idiot one of these people are
going to Who will it be?
Adam Curry: Who's fat? Who's
faking? It
John C Dvorak: should be Al
Roker.
Adam Curry: No Al Roker. He lost
all the weight. No,
John C Dvorak: but he still kind
of how about Whoopi, Whoopi? No,
she won't do it. Now. She get
too much pride. Who else do we I
would do it. It has to be one of
the women that it would be
something like Savannah who's
kind of like she's not
Adam Curry: How about Gail Gail
still has a little punch punch
to her. Gail won't do it now.
Well, Oprah did it. Oprah
admitted that she did it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
fine, but she was gonna do it.
Do it once it'll do it on camera
have to be the most shameless of
the morning people. Yeah. That's
why I think Savannah would do
it. But you're right you
probably shouldn't condemn her
for your a thing why you're
doing it?
Adam Curry: Yeah, we need
someone who's you know clearly
obesogenic.
John C Dvorak: Okay, how about
this, okay, they bring it they
do a cattle call and they bring
in a an anchor from one of the
Adam Curry: nation's local
station local anchor, and they
bring
John C Dvorak: her onto the
network. Yeah, because this
might be her big chance.
Convince her Asia that she
should come to New York. Hey,
Adam Curry: hey, I gotta listen.
I got some great news for you.
You're gonna go national baby.
You're gonna be on the network.
Oh, really? Yeah, all you got to
do is inject yourself
John C Dvorak: have to be
somebody already taking it so
they won't even be shy about
Adam Curry: well that could be
any morning disc jockey. That
would also the morning disc
jockeys they you know, they
always used to Hey, Hey John,
how you doing on the Nutrisystem
diet. I'm still retaining water,
but I'm down to 240 pounds. I've
been on so many mornings.
Morning Show guys live in
obesogenic life. They really do
they eat.
John C Dvorak: They're jolly.
Adam Curry: Jolly Yes. It just
it is so disturbing that the
calling for oh, we should outlaw
advertising of fast food. To
keep the drugs going though.
keep them going.
John C Dvorak: That was a good
one. That's actually the best
part of that whole series.
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, that's
why I played it last month. I've
been doing this for 45 years. 45
years have been doing this
stuff. Sorry, I was I was I was
rolling into the next bit. Roll
by three, experiment. JC
comparing story from ABC, CBS.
He has three network reports,
all scripts, all the same stuff.
Who knows it's always
interesting to hear what is
going on and JCVD is three by
three. Well, this
John C Dvorak: is an interesting
this leads into my more
extensive Hamas report, which
will be revealing what I
consider to be the scam of this
entire conflict conflagration in
the Middle East. But this is a
I'm not sure where this goes
except for some clip I have that
follows us of Jake Tapper.
discussing things but let's go
into the three by three
discussing the conflagration in
the Middle East with ABC.
Unknown: ABC just started off
tonight that high stakes meeting
in Israel. Thank you for your
support national security
adviser Jake Sullivan urging
Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu to scale back the most
intense fighting amid the
soaring civilian death toll in
Gaza.
He did talk about possible
transitioning from what we would
call high intensity operations
which is what we're seeing them
do now to lower intensity
operate Oh lower intensive
sometime, you know in the near
future US official confirming a
report in The New York Times
that a lower intensity operation
may involve the use of smaller
groups of elite Israeli forces
that would carry out more
precise missions to find and
kill Hamas leaders rescue
hostages and destroy tunnels.
President Biden weighing in
I want them to be focused on how
to save civilian lives. Not stop
going after a mosque but be more
careful.
A US official confirming that
nearly half the air to ground
munitions that Israel has used
in Gaza. unguided so called dumb
bombs. Experts say dropping
bombs which a Pentagon official
claims Israel is doing can boost
their precision and Yahoo
defined saying Israel is more
determined than ever to continue
fighting until Hamas is
eliminated. The Israeli military
is releasing this video showing
dozens of men with their hands
up surrendering, claiming their
Hamas militants who were
operating inside a hospital for
the gardens living under
Israel's relentless bombardment,
desperation and fear. Nowhere is
safe. And after 69 days of
fighting concern for the more
than 100 hostages who are still
in the hands of Hamas. The Biden
administration wants Israel to
move to a more tactical targeted
operation as soon as possible
but they also want a plan for
the future of Gaza not just the
end of Hamas.
Adam Curry: Okay, so let me see
if I if I understood correctly.
We're calling for some bull crap
measure going from high
intensity to low intensity
stopped with the dumb bombs and
be more focused be more precise
I'm missing the word I'm missing
the word surgical and and we're
missing a Tim what's your
strategy? Is that what I'm
hearing? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: pretty much and
then my favorite thing about
these bomb things when all of a
sudden we smart bombs dumb
bombs. Remember the barrel bomb
Adam Curry: barrel bomb from the
helicopters those were the best
Yes, yeah. Well, it turns out
all of that was phony and fake.
John C Dvorak: You think? So
let's go that was what that was
ABC. NBC same same report only
this time we got to Richard
angle. The spook NBC spook
Unknown: as Israel's war on
Hamas devastates the Gaza Strip.
President Biden was asked if
Israel needs to tone down its
military operation often do
focused on how to save civilian
lives. Not stopped going after a
mosque but be more careful.
National Sheikh Salim exactly
Adam Curry: clip Yep, same clip.
Be more careful. Hey, kill
carefully.
Unknown: Not stop going after a
minute but be more careful.
National Security Adviser Jake
Sullivan meeting Israeli Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
today. To US officials familiar
with the discussion. Tell NBC
News Sullivan told the Israeli
government the administration
wants Israel to end its large
scale ground campaign in Gaza
and transition to a more
targeted phase of its war
against Hamas bought that
Sullivan did not specify a
timetable to do this. Israeli
military officials tell NBC News
What
Adam Curry: was that someone
John C Dvorak: who has the woman
in the back room has stepped
over some chords and like the
mic there was
Adam Curry: supposed to be a
bomb explosion there But instead
they did this that was that's
wrong. Hey, the editor NAT pops.
Okay,
Unknown: US bought that Sullivan
did not specify a timetable to
do this. Israeli military
officials tell NBC News tonight.
We
Adam Curry: should fix that for
them. I mean, they just didn't
do that. Right. So let me see.
John C Dvorak: I agree. Okay. I
think machine gun fire that's
what I want machine
Adam Curry: gun machine gun.
Okay. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: got some good
machine gun stuff.
Adam Curry: I got something
here. So we do an AK 47. So,
hey, why don't have ak 47. Oh,
there we go. Okay, there we go.
Fix it for him. We'll fix it of
its
Unknown: war against Hamas
bought that Sullivan did not
specify a timetable to do this.
Israeli military officials tell
NBC News so much they anticipate
a long military campaign, but
recognize they are under
pressure because of Palestinian
casualties and the humanitarian
collapse in Gaza. Our crew
filmed the aftermath of Israeli
strikes today and followed the
victims to a hospital. This was
in southern Gaza, where
Palestinians have been ordered
to go. Israel says its war is
more than justified after Hamas
massacred at least 1200 Israelis
and took 240 hostages on October
7. Richard,
I want to go back to this new US
intelligence assessment about
the bombs Israel has been using
in Gaza. What's the significance
of that report?
Well, the assessment says that
about 40 to 45% of the air to
ground munitions 29,000 air to
ground munitions that Israel has
dropped on Gaza since October 7
are unguided. Which are far less
precise.
Adam Curry: Dustin Oh unguided.
A different word for dumb. Okay.
unguided, unguided.
John C Dvorak: Alright, so they
were being set up for something
here not sure. What Yeah, I have
some ideas which will follow
let's start with the this
finishes up with our the one
that always is the best at the
end. CBS always
Adam Curry: Yeah, the CIA
broadcasting systems. Here we
go. Only Saturday. Nice. Nice.
Nice. Nice. Good start boys.
Good start. Very good.
Unknown: In a shattered school,
Israel's military said it killed
many militants in intense
fighting in the past day,
hailing the surrender of about
70 alleged Hamas fighters in the
south Israeli strikes and
leveled homes and killed dozens
in Rafah and con Eunice. One
survivor said their children,
today's deaths adding to the
more than 18,000 killed
according to Gaza's health
ministry run by Hamas. President
Biden weighed in,
worked into how to save civilian
lives. Not stopped going after a
monster be more careful with
national security adviser Jake
Sullivan in Israel today. Pres
Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu on a timeline to US
officials tell CBS News Israel's
current phase of its offensive
should be completed in two to
three weeks followed by lower
levels of bombing for several
months lower levels. On Israeli
TV, Mr. Netanyahu said I told
our American friends were more
determined than ever until Hamas
is eliminated
the he's playing a game a
political game on look at me.
I'm standing up to American
pressure
alone. Pincus is Israel's former
consul general in New York as
what future pressure will the
US supply. Refrain from a veto
vote at the UN Security Council
there are several courses of
pressure that the US can apply.
One of those are these frequent
visits.
As Israel's president in Tel
Aviv marked the last night of
this year's festival of lights,
the country still hopes for a
miracle, the return of more than
100 hostages still held in
captivity. And while the US and
Israel are working together
towards another phase of hostage
releases, the two do not agree
on who will govern Gaza after
this war is over.
Adam Curry: Well at least they
give a better timeline they had
same clip of Biden of course
killed carefully
John C Dvorak: exactly the same
clip which is usually all three
networks don't have the exact
same clip cut exactly the same.
So how does that happen? They
call each other up no
Adam Curry: they got their money
John C Dvorak: get one clip from
the White House and say use this
if they
Adam Curry: send out a vinyl
like we used to get back in the
day. That big big special vinyl
you could only play 516
John C Dvorak: is transcription
disk is what it's called. Thank
Adam Curry: you. Yes, look that
up people transcription disk.
And you take the clip from
there. That's all they got.
Yeah, of course. People are busy
in the newsrooms. They don't
have time to be looking for
clips busy. They don't have no
agenda producers looking for
clips for everybody. No. Oh,
they got they are busy. They're
busy especially around the
holidays is the B team.
Everybody's out. Oh, we got a
war. Yeah, but you promised me
two weeks of vacation at
Christmas time. But we got two
wars. I don't care bring in Bob.
Bob works at in Idaho, he can do
it bring in the affiliate boys.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there is an
element of that for sure. So I
want to continue this because I
have a thesis that is of course
the thesis is not new to the
show and is not new to our
analysis of the Middle East
there
Adam Curry: why even bother?
Let's just go straight to Taylor
Swift news
John C Dvorak: Okay, by the way,
you know, the Incognito grow,
who writes on every so really
still around,
Adam Curry: he doesn't write by
he
John C Dvorak: sends me clips.
And he sent me a clip of I
should I should send it to you
and you should put it in the
show notes. It's a clip of an IT
guy doing an analysis of Taylor
Swift's lame music. And it's she
uses the same four chords in the
same progression on almost every
song she does. It's MK Ultra
Yeah, well I think you've got
your think you might be onto
something with that.
Adam Curry: Hey, what does INCOG
Negro not like me? Do I recall
something that he hated me for
some reason? You're
John C Dvorak: racist. Oh, that
was it. You're making up for it
by being buddies with Mo. Mo my
Adam Curry: friend is happens to
be black. I get to say that
friend,
John C Dvorak: I have a friend
who's black
Adam Curry: who happens to be
black. You gotta say.
John C Dvorak: Right, I gotta
get the wording.
Adam Curry: I gotta get it
right. Gotta get it right. So
John C Dvorak: let's go to NTD I
want to play this. This is the
Israeli Israeli Jake Sullivan
NTD.
Unknown: This is in di D
National Security Adviser Jake
Sullivan is in Israel to
reaffirm us support.
He's meeting with top officials
pushing to move to war into its
next phase. The US wants more
intelligence based raids and
precise targeting of Hamas
leadership.
We are now in the middle of a
high intensity phase with
ongoing ground operations
military operations. Hold on a
second. Is this our war?
John C Dvorak: Gig Exactly?
Adam Curry: What's going on
here? Oh, send Jaken Hey, man,
we want we want it done
differently. You're not killing
right.
John C Dvorak: So so if you
listen to that carefully, and it
reiterates in the next half of
this clip, he says we Yes, we as
if it's our USA, our war. It's
not a weak situation. But he
says we as though it's we was
the second half of this.
Unknown: We are now in the
middle of a high intensity phase
with ongoing ground operations
military operations in both the
northern half and the southern
half of Gaza. But there will be
a transition to another phase of
this war one that is focused in
more precise ways on targeting
the leadership and
Sullivan today also met with
Israeli President Isaac Hertzog
and Tel Aviv. The two discussed
efforts to secure the release of
the hostages held in Gaza.
Adam Curry: Now I don't like any
of this. What uh, what are we
doing?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what are we
doing? Meanwhile, just as a
little man, interesting kind of
in the side, which got me off
the track into what I'm
thinking, which is this clip.
Hamas operatives in the EU?
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah.
Unknown: I know. Also today, two
suspected Hamas members arrived
at a federal court in Germany.
German authorities transported
them using a helicopter. They're
accused of planning attacks on
Jewish institutions in Europe.
authorities arrested three men
in Germany yesterday.
Prosecutors allege they were
tasked with finding a previously
set up underground Hamas weapons
cache in Europe,
the weapons were allegedly due
to be taken to Berlin. There
they be kept in a state of
readiness for potential
terrorist attacks.
Another suspected to mass
operative was arrested in the
Dutch city of Rotterdam. And
also yesterday, three alleged
terrorists were arrested in
Denmark in a separate case.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah. Well, this
is this is come do. Yeah. Yes. I
mean, this this is Oh, boy. This
is unexpected.
John C Dvorak: This is a as
phony as ISIS and Al Qaeda. And
it's actually brought together
of all places. My clever N has a
show on the weekends. And he
brings in Alan Dershowitz. Two
of them outline kind of what I
think is I don't know what
agency who's doing this. It's
obvious to me now that Dersch
Dersch isn't she's an asset is
an asset he's in a you can tell
because he's at. I can discuss
this, if, maybe later on how
much you can write as you get
older. He's 85. And he's just
finished his second book. I was
Adam Curry: writing too much,
but it's a giveaway And it's a
giveaway it
John C Dvorak: says like the guy
who did the Steve Jobs biography
the head of the Aspen Institute
at the time Eisenberg Isaacson
Isaacson that guy. Yeah. Are my
favorite example is
Adam Curry: he just did the Elon
Musk book too. Yeah, he's
John C Dvorak: cranking these
books out who's doing these
books? Well, somebody's doing
the books I've done big books. I
know what it takes to do big
books is nothing you can just
crank out like that with
Adam Curry: the books and I
cannot lie yes to books
John C Dvorak: and I cannot lie.
Let's go with this, too. Let's
start with the Hamas Levin and
Dersch part one
Unknown: to protect Jewish
students on college campuses to
daily treat that a beat the
drums about what's taking place
in this country. Every time they
mentioned when they do mention
anti semitism they feel the need
to mention
Adam Curry: I gotta mention
something. Levin's voice the
older he gets, his voice is less
powerful. It's frail. In my
agree, you know what I mean?
It's he doesn't he? He's missing
worry about that for myself. Oh,
powerful voice now you're
sounding good. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: he's becoming
frail. Don't worry. I can't say
borrower.
Adam Curry: Don't worry. I'll
put the balls on you on my end,
John C Dvorak: put the balls on
Unknown: me. Islamophobia. There
is no Islamophobia in America,
as I've said before,
Islamophobia is in the Middle
East Salama for Muslims are
slaughtering Muslims that's not
going on in this country. And
Muslims are not running to their
dorms rooms and locking
themselves in, or the lunch
rooms or the attics. They're not
afraid to go to class, and so
forth and so on. And I could go
on and on and on. But why should
I want to have a guest like Alan
Dershowitz here? What do you
make of all this? Well, you're
100%. Right. This is an attack
against the world. We just
learned that now. Hamas is
expanding its scope and and
wants to attack Jewish entities
in Europe. It's coming to a
theater near you. If Hamas has
not stopped in the Middle East,
it will spread all over the
world. It will start with Jewish
institutions as it often does.
But it will spread to Christian
institutions, it will spread to
other institutions. And we'll be
in a global war with Hamas as we
were with ISIS and Al Qaeda. And
we must do to Hamas with the
American troops under Roosevelt
and under Churchill did to Japan
and Germany bombed total
unconditional surrender. Total
War total defeat. We must wipe
out Hamas and people say you
can't wipe out an ideology.
Nonsense. We wiped out Nazism.
Adam Curry: Oh, what a gem. This
is good. Oh, yeah. So what
they're gonna be shooting up
churches? Is that what I'm
understanding from dirt? Yeah.
John C Dvorak: All right, any
minute
Adam Curry: I have Bring it on.
John C Dvorak: Now we know that
Hezbollah is a huge, highly
funded operation. Hamas are a
bunch of to bid jerk offs in
Palestine.
Adam Curry: They say Javed
Sheikh JV team, they'll be
funny.
John C Dvorak: And so we have
but now all of a sudden they're
the same in the same league as
Al Qaeda, a creation of our CIA.
Yes, our or ISIS, the creation
of the Obama administration and
Israel possibly and but they're
not going to take on and
Pakistan and pica so there's so
these these operate this now
Hamas is going to become this
somehow. And we heard from that
other clip that they're already
being arrested left and right in
in Europe, in Europe. Yeah.
Okay. So here we go. Now we're
gonna hear the, it gets better.
Adam Curry: Sorry. Wait,
John C Dvorak: I just got to, I
have to give a disclaimer. I
think this next clip is, is over
time. And I'm sorry about that.
But it's too good.
Adam Curry: I forgive you say
so. Okay, Professor
Unknown: Dershowitz. I'd like
your opinion. We keep hearing
about the Palestinian civilians
that they don't want any of
this. There's two surveys done
in the last three and a half
weeks. One is by the Arab world
for research and development.
That doesn't sound like a an
American Jewish front group to
me, and it's not and what did
they write? Taken as a whole the
results indicate that an
overwhelming percent of
Palestinians support the October
7 massacre 75% Reject
coexistence with Israel 86% are
committed to the restoration of
historical Palestine which means
the elimination of Israel as a
final solution. 71% they support
the creation of a Palestinian
state from the river to the sea,
the annihilation of Israel 75%
as the end of the Israeli
Palestinian conflict, these are
Palestinians who were surveyed
in Gaza. in Judea and Samaria,
they said the Palestinian
positive perception of terror
organizations remains high.
Despite the role in carrying out
the massacre and disastrous
results. 76 believed that Hamas
plays a somewhat the very
positive role. 84% believe that
the Palestinian Islamic Jihad
plays a summit a very positive
role. 80% believe that Fatah's
terror when they are Aqsa
martyrs, brigades plays a
somewhat a very positive role.
And 88.6% believe that Hamas is
armed wing, the Al Hassan
brigades plays a somewhat a very
positive function. So why did
the media keep telling us
there's this tremendous
distinction, this great distance
between Hamas and other
terrorist groups? And the people
who elect them and support them?
Why did they keep telling us
that you were allowed to lie, we
know that not only do the vast
majority of people in Gaza, and
on the Westbank support the
Hamas atrocities in Gaza, many
of them helped it. Remember when
Hamas broke through the fence
and start killing Israelis.
Gazan civilians followed them.
They participated in the rapes,
the beheadings, the murders,
Gaza, balls, help them by having
tunnels under their homes, by
having command centers by having
rockets being fired from schools
and from mosques. So look, we
all have to be sympathetic to
the babies and the children who
are used as human shields, by
the way by Hamas, and every
single one of these babies who
were killed is the
responsibility of Hamas. But I'm
far less sympathetic to the
adults who aggressively support
Hamas. You know, if they were in
America, they'd be tried for
crimes because you can't, under
American law, provide material
support for a terrorist group.
And these Gazans are providing
material support for Hamas,
which is a terrorist group.
Adam Curry: Alright, so I'm, I'm
obviously on board with your
with your thesis, it's a long
standing no agenda thesis. Do
you think that this is intended
just to create a state of fear a
is a tension strategy amongst
the United States and and
Western Europe?
John C Dvorak: Well, I think, as
well, as this continues, I have
maybe history more clips. Add to
this. So it's a known fact, at
least has been a known fact. And
as discussed in some forums here
and there, that there's 1.4
trillion cubic feet of gas,
right under Gaza. There's one
point or it's over 3 billion
barrels of oil right off the
coast at Gaza. They are they
have I think that this was a
deal where they decided some
time ago, they're going to let
them develop this the they cut
Gaza loose, there's not an
occupied territory, the Israelis
left it and left it to the to
the Palestinians to develop and
do their own thing, and then
maybe do some split deals, maybe
who knows what, but that was
going to be a developed oil
field and gas field. And they
bet they dropped the ball, they
didn't do their job, and now
they're going to be rousted out
of Gaza, they're just going to
get rid of all the Palestinians,
let's put shit like this in
disgust, the fact that the
Palestinians are bad people,
which is what you just heard in
that clip, and who cares what
happens to them, and we're going
to hear more and more of this
kind of thing. It's going to be
slanted that way. So we can get
to those gas and oil wells, when
in fact, we have to always
remember a couple of things that
in the background is that Biden
and the Democrats are phonies.
And the Democrats in particular
is like the string people along
like they've done with the black
population in this country and
promising him stuff and they're
doing with the
environmentalists, as the Biden
administration has more has done
more for the oil business than
Trump ever would do. It just
look at the price of Exxon stock
from the day that Biden got in
we are pumping more oil than
ever before the whole Burisma
things and oil thing everything
Why is when people say why the
crude oil prices they haven't
done anything with this Middle
East action they usually go up
no they have gone down because
we are going to pump more oil
out of this area. This is about
oil we're going to rouse these
Palestinians their hell with
them. Get them out of there if
you they won't pump the oil
because you're too stupid. We'll
do it John cedars bore access
Eva today.
Adam Curry: It's been a while
been a while. Well, this
explains why they can't bomb
them. We can't really bomb it.
That wouldn't be no good. And
that may also explain why these
Hamas guys are in Qatar. They
know a bit about gas and oil.
Yep.
John C Dvorak: Hmm. Okay. Yep,
perfect. Qatar probably has
dropped the ball in his deal to
somebody dropped the ball
somewhere. Because this, these
oil fields are known, especially
the gas, the gas field
underneath the Gaza itself,
let's go to clip three. And
Unknown: as I say, it's coming
to America, it's coming to
Europe, Hamas is not going to
stop. If it prevails in the
Middle East, it's going to
continue just the way al Qaeda
and other groups have continuous
we have to stop it in the
interests of America. And
Adam Curry: when I say bomber I
mean like big bombs, like mother
of all bombs, like bombs to
exterminate. No,
John C Dvorak: you can't do
that. You can't do that. You
just got to rouse them, you got
to clear them. And here's the
clip for and
Unknown: Israel should be a
bipartisan issue. All sides
should support Israel without
regard to what parties they
belong to. And there's been a
rise in popularity of Hamas in
the United States as well. On
October 8, the day after these
horrors that occurred on
September 7, students at Harvard
supported Hamas, the National
Lawyers Guild supported Hamas. I
document all of this. I wrote a
book right after the events that
question I started writing it on
October 7, World War against the
Jews. And in it, I document how
increased support for Hamas
occurred among the hard left,
the hard left has become the
enemy of justice, of decency of
academia. And we have to
continue our fight not only
against Hamas, but against Hamas
supporters in the United States
that can become easily a fifth
column. Remember, in the 1970s,
the weatherman started blowing
up universities trying to blow
up Fort Dix, that's going to
happen here. We have a fifth
column of hard left Hamas
supporters, many of them Muslim,
many of them not Muslim, many of
them hard left, kids are
friends, children are marching
with Hamas. And that's why it's
so dangerous to Americans and to
the world and why we have to
fight back idiotically, we have
a combination on our college
campuses and beyond of an
Islamist and a Marxist ideology,
because they both support the
same thing the destruction of
the Enlightenment, the
destruction of Western culture,
and that and they are genocidal
your book the war against the
Jews how to end Hamas barbarism.
Let me tell you what's
fascinating about your book,
among other things, how you
wrote it as quickly as it did
how you got to publish as
quickly as you did. And it's not
only question it's up to date on
everything that's going on in
this country, which is why I
wanted to have you on you can
get this on amazon.com Any major
bookstore
Adam Curry: Wow. So he bang that
out in two months and
John C Dvorak: published and
anyone who's ever been in the
publishing business knows now
No, no, that's that's not even
close to being possible. Okay,
saying that out and has edited
copy edited design types of
everything published in in 60
days. Now the other thing which
is just a little sidelight here,
which I'm starting to notice and
you start thinking about this is
just an oil play. And you start
looking back at all the
complaining all the this fear
mongering about all this
southern border, Hamas is coming
up the southern border, no
Hamas? No, they, you know,
they've gone from this to bid
operation in Gaza, to this world
threat overnight, and we just
lap it up. And both sides,
especially the right the right
wingers lack this stuff. Yep.
But here's the thing that's been
going on because I caught two of
these and I have one of them. I
clipped one of them. And this is
the Kubo version I the first one
I heard which I didn't clip
which was on the Piers Morgan
show. And one of his
correspondents was pretty much
saying what Cuomo is saying here
about they're starting to show
sin tapes of the atrocities.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah. No, I'm,
John C Dvorak: I'm very
concerned about this. Because of
the, of the Wag the Dog idea.
Show is day one. It's
Adam Curry: not an idea. It's a
plan. Two
John C Dvorak: and a half months
after the event. Two and a half
months is a lot of time to do
whatever you want to do. You can
you can fake a moon landing.
Adam Curry: Two and a half
months now you're talking.
Welcome to the dark
John C Dvorak: side. I live in
New York. So you put up with
these clips. So let's let's
listen to Hamas Cuomo,
Revelation. Today
Unknown: has been a heavy day
around here. Why? Well, many of
us have seen portions of video
of the October 7 massacre. What
Hamas terrorists did, mostly to
innocent Israel,
Adam Curry: is he going to
mention that that this was what
the IDF compiled and they showed
it to the international news
media in a theater for 45
minutes they showed that and
this is an you know, I'm really
starting to think you're onto
something here because The thing
that I noticed immediately it's
all body cam. It's all first
person shooter like stuff. It's
all it's all, you know, which is
easy to intermingle with, with,
with game footage.
Unknown: But there are things
that you have not seen because
they were never posted or made
public. And the reality of them
hits hard.
Adam Curry: Oh, tell me, he saw
the chopping off baby's heads
Unknown: very hard. I know,
because I was shown a good
amount of it today. 47 minutes.
That's worth it. That's a lot of
one type of terror footage. And
I now understand something that
Hamas was doing and that Israel
is responding to, that I did not
fully appreciate before. Now, I
still think you should see what
I saw. But to be honest, the
shock of today is a little
fresh. And I'm not as adamant
about that, as I was before I
went to the viewing. So I'll try
to convey what hit me about it.
And at some point, it's always
better if you get to see and
decide for yourself. All right.
But what I'm going to talk to
you about is going to inform why
Israel is not anxious to agree
to what seems obvious to many,
including the United States, its
most powerful, influential ally,
the bombing has to stop and
before the end of the year,
that's what President Biden is
saying suggesting deadlines and
clearly criticizing Israel's
tactics. And it is raising a
question Could the United States
withdraw support from its main
ally in the Middle East?
Adam Curry: I'm always surprised
how we as humans can put
different levels of of death
into like this is worst death
and that death Yes, I know. We
know where the with the bomb
someone to death or chop their
head off to death or burn them
to death. It's death. Now it's
just it's it's death. It's it's,
it's not cool, no matter what.
But this is where we work on the
psyche of people. And the 47
minutes, I believe is the entire
idea of Compendium,
John C Dvorak: I think it is.
But you don't even know if it's
the same one because they're
showing it again to certain
certain select journalists.
Adam Curry: I mean, is this any
different from anything we've
already seen on telegram? Is it
all of that stuff? I
John C Dvorak: don't know. I
haven't I have no idea. All I
know is that we're that this
whole thing looks like we're
being played and we're being
paid by both sides. And the oil
companies are somehow involved
and the middle that's all I can
conclude Yeah. And and they're
good at it and these protests
you have to wonder what's really
triggering those whose is it
environmental groups is is
Adam Curry: now you're into my
territory? Well, I
John C Dvorak: have some some
protests. There's protest. I
have protests clips from South
Africa. They're protesting in
Pakistan. They're they're
protesting everywhere for no
reason. Allow me to why are they
protesting this? This fellas
Danian situation in South
Africa. Allow
Adam Curry: me to start with
some political protests. As we
saw the trade unions in America
come together the UAE w the
United Auto Workers who had a
very successful strike I would
say against the car
manufacturers.
John C Dvorak: And yeah, if you
want to lose your job, and the
Adam Curry: UAE w the United
electrical workers, and they had
their statement,
Unknown: the world seen enough
slaughter and devastation.
John C Dvorak: Wait a second. I
just want to stop you there. The
white workers did at that day
you electrical workers are the
IBEW Who are these guys?
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
said. I see you ew. Let me say
you w maybe let's make sure I'm
right. You ew. You told me was
the UW W. University of
Education when a Toba no maybe I
should add union I'm just doing
book of knowledge here. Let's
see you Aw. Oh, it's
interesting. doesn't even exist
at the video literally had you
ew. And said United electrical
workers.
John C Dvorak: Your I don't know
such. Yeah, it was actually a
short met for a very short time
was a member of the IBEW and
that's a very famous huge union
for electrical workers.
Adam Curry: United electrical
radio machine Workers that's
what that's what you're talking
about right?
John C Dvorak: With the IBEW
International Brotherhood of
Electrical organise electricians
out here
Adam Curry: I have united
electrical. That's the UAE? I
don't know, I'll have to go. But
it was it was this clip is from
Turkish Radio Television. So
take it with that grain of salt.
But these are union people who
are in America. I'm pretty sure
that's correct. The world
Unknown: seen enough slaughter
and devastation. These is the
only path forward. This
is the time for workers to
leverage our labor power and
electoral power sustained an
uncompromising solidarity with
the cost of Palestinian freedom.
While we
call for a ceasefire. We also
condemn anti semitism,
Islamophobia, anti Arab racism,
all of which are growing in our
nation at this moment and must
be stopped. Right?
The right wing government is
taking the lasting trauma of
Israeli Jews from the Holocaust
as great as using it to
traumatize generations of
Palestinians. Trauma will
inevitably result in the new
generation of resistance sack
the patient. We can't accept
that. Now. That
Adam Curry: guy sounds like a
union worker. I like that guy.
John C Dvorak: That guy was
good. Yeah, he does. So
Adam Curry: that but union
workers, we know that we know
who backs them. This is all
political. This one though, was
kind of surprising. This is the
Google employees.
Unknown: I am here in opposition
to Israel's system of apartheid
that curtails Palestinian rights
and ends Palestinian lives, a
system that my employer
materially supports through its
involvement with Project Nimbus,
drop the project.
Adam Curry: So that was big, it
was a very big protest at
Google. And they're protesting
project Nimbus, which I looked
up, which is a cloud computing
project of the Israeli
government. This is what Google
does. They do cloud computing.
Yet. That's the basic thing.
Yeah, they're basically saying,
don't do business for Israel,
which I found to be quite
surprising, then we have and
then you know, after these two,
which is
John C Dvorak: weird, because
Israel is also we should always
remember that Israel is a tech
hub for the United States. It's
one of our development areas,
especially in Haifa. Oh, yeah.
It's I mean, Intel, I'd say most
of their processors or every
other processors designed from
Israel In Israel. Good point
Adam Curry: have we're gonna ban
Intel machines due to Intel
outside watch. Now, hey,
Netanyahu, he's this is this is
very political. He's got all the
protests happening in his front
yard.
Unknown: Israel's military says
that has accidentally killed
three of the hostages kidnapped
by Hamas during its October 7
terror attacks. The three
Israelis were reportedly shot
after being mistaking as the
threat by soldiers pursuing
Palestinian militants in Gaza
City. the loved ones of those
kidnapped are demanding
immediate return of the
remaining hostages, and say
their safety must be prioritized
over the fighting.
News of the hostage killings
galvanized demonstrators in Tel
Aviv. roads were blocked as
hundreds demanded the safe
return of those still in Gaza.
10 weeks after they were
kidnapped. Much of the anger
directed at Israel's Prime
Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu
will say that he went he's
responsible for everything that
is happening, that happened and
anything happening. He has
blocked a lot of blood on an
issue to resign. Now, there
Adam Curry: you go. They're
calling for his head. He must
resign. It's all his fault, and
he has a response. His response
is a giant clock. Israeli
Unknown: Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu said that the
relentless bombing campaign
could help push them off back to
the negotiating table, a
possibility he revealed as the
head of the Israeli spy agency
has been in talks with the Prime
Minister of Qatar.
Adam Curry: Without the military
pressure, we would not have been
able to create a deal to release
more than 100 hostages and only
further military pressure will
lead to the return of all of our
hostages.
Unknown: Netanyahu said the
accidental killings of three
Israeli hostages by the
military, even as they had been
waving a white flag broke his
heart and the nation's hearts.
But he committed to the military
campaign in Gaza until he said
Hamas Ross was dismantled in Tel
Aviv as the large clock
continues to count the seconds.
Since the hostages were taken by
Hamas on October 7, families
turned up the heat on the
government to get hostage talks
back on track. And a senior
member of Hamas weighed in
saying the three hostage deaths
at the hands of the Israeli
military proved Israel's
campaign was a strategic and
technical failure. I
tell those Israeli prisoners
relatives who set a clock in Tel
Aviv counting the time until
their loved ones come back. This
clock of yours could go forever.
If the Israeli one want the
hostages and the prisoners to
come back alive, this won't
happen unless there is a
complete cessation of Israeli
aggression.
Adam Curry: There you go. Big
clock. Big clock that'll
John C Dvorak: show you. She
brought up the hostages that
were shot. I have this funny
clip from our tea. Only a few of
these outlets, I would say
democracy now RT and the others
discussed the details of these
guys getting a shot. This clip
as hostages shot
Adam Curry: seems clear enough
reported
Unknown: details from the ideas
investigation have sparked a
wave of discontent in Tel Aviv
with new intensity. They say
that the hostages who were
killed were actually waving a
makeshift white flag. In the
later comments. The IDF was
quoted as saying that Hamas
militants have previously used
white flags to the Israeli
soldiers into ambushes. But one
of the killed hostages was
reportedly shouting for help in
Hebrew, right before he was shot
dead. The IDF spokesman or
spokesperson says that the army
identified them as a threat.
While Israel's Army Chief of
General Staff stated that the
troops are responsible.
Now, firing at the hostages was
against the Army's instructions
for opening fire. It is
prohibited to shoot at people
holding a white flag and
attempting to surrender. But the
shooting was done during
fighting and under pressure.
The patience of the relatives of
the families of the hostages are
ending they demand the Israeli
government now to do more. And
they are saying that Israeli
prime minister and his war
cabinet are not committed
enough. And it is not their
first priority to bring back the
hostages about 130 Israeli field
the captivity of the terrorists
have cameras, and some of them
are elderly, women, children and
their relatives of those sons,
the Jets. You know,
Adam Curry: cut that off. Let me
just say one thing, your
assertion here about the oil and
gas I would have said yeah,
maybe because you know there's a
lot offshore Lebanon, we know
about the Leviathan field we
know that Israel had a beer but
that's north now. I know. Bear
with me. I'm with the I'm
agreeing with you. The reason
why I think you're really onto
something is because you and and
Horowitz you track these prices
and everything we've seen in the
past when there was a Middle
East skirmish, oil prices go up?
And it's just not the case.
John C Dvorak: That's going
down. Yes. So actually going way
down,
Adam Curry: that means that
there is knowledge, there is
knowledge that this is all for
good. And how much longer do
they have to bomb before this?
Just nobody left? I don't think
it can be that much longer. No,
John C Dvorak: this is the tough
part. But I'm gonna go back to
that clip I just played. So in
other reports that these guys
came out shirtless, waving a
white flag. And now and then the
report in that article was
interesting, because they said,
well, that white flight doesn't
mean that much because they've
been they've been ambushed
numerous times by Hamas guys
waving a white flag and then
they get ambushed. Isn't that a
war crime? Isn't that a war
crime? And the other thing is
that walking around in civilian
without even having uniforms
just as a military group amongst
civilians pretending to be
civilians, isn't that a war
crime? I
Adam Curry: love rules of war
that
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
they always bring it up that
this this is a war crime. That's
a war crime. This is a war but
they never bring this stuff up
when it comes to Hamas. They
never said that committing war
crimes. Who was that? They
talked about? massacres a
massacre who's they who's they?
The mainstream media? Oh, okay.
And in fact, I would say there
are T rushing media which is
part of the mainstream media
Adam Curry: my opinion this
makes no sense. So the media
which we know is run by Jews,
they're not bringing that up.
Just the
John C Dvorak: media's yeah the
joke is is what what kind of
Jews are running the media
Adam Curry: if they're not
bringing it up?
John C Dvorak: There's a bunch
of this is there's too many
anomalies it's it's rife. And so
I'm more every time and it these
these contradictory issues, like
not saying you know, we can't
get confirm it. But we can't we
will confirm this, we won't
confirm that the everything is
stinks to high heaven. We're
Adam Curry: also missing a lot
of key elements of, of
traditional war crimes. We're
missing the Captagon. What is
it? What is the what is the
cheap meth drug? We haven't had,
we haven't had Hamas taken that
we haven't had them taking
Viagra to rape. We're missing
some key elements that are
typical for this type of
operation. So this is different.
John C Dvorak: Now that we're
going to talk about gas fields,
who are the people that will be
vying for control of these gas
fields? And that's I think, is
boo who's behind who's who's
behind the protests. He's left
wing protests. I think Russia
has got something to do with
this. Because Putin just did
his. And I'm gonna say that for
this reason, this is just a this
is a stretch, and I can't prove
a word of it of a supposition
like this. But Putin just did
his 10 and 10 hour long is
classic press Show, none of this
came up. That I know of. And it
it just seems that this is
something he could Scheid people
will all you know, they're just
after the oil and gas. I think
they've got a lot to do with
this. And all these Palestinian
protests in United States here
and everybody falling in line,
and all these flags who's making
these flags? I mean, the whole
thing is, is if just if that's
true, it stinks. If
Adam Curry: that's true, if
that's true, me as part of the
end times and revelation, if
Russia is literally involved in
this, that's bad. That's really
bad. That's the one thing you
don't want to see. Is Russia
being involved in this one?
John C Dvorak: This biblical is
the gas of 1.4 trillion cubic
feet of natural gas under Gaza,
not in the ocean, the Royals in
the ocean, the gases right
there. Can
Adam Curry: you side drill? Do
you need to have do you need to
go straight down? Can't you just
sit on the sidelines and drill
from the side?
John C Dvorak: There's, there's,
there's a bunch of international
law about that.
Adam Curry: Oh, we're back to
law. By the way.
John C Dvorak: These these, this
1.4 trillion cubic feet. This is
why this thing has been dragging
on so long. It was in 2000 that
two wells drilled by British Gas
discovered the there's a reserve
of 1.4 trillion cubic feet of
natural gas under there.
Adam Curry: All right, well, so
this would be the reason why we
need to kill carefully,
carefully, let's slow down is
John C Dvorak: to rush them.
They started at the north. And
so you gotta get out of here and
they moved because there's
tunnels. You gotta go gotta get
it out of there. Because the
tunnels there's all this all
these command centers under the
hospitals get out. So they moved
him south and they start bombing
they're trying to get them out.
And they're trying to get Egypt
to accept them each it's got to
be part of this deal.
Adam Curry: Well, but they're
not Egypt has it has the border
closed and deload Egypt has
John C Dvorak: said no, we got
nothing to do with this right.
But that the public at large
doesn't know what the hell's
going on. This whole thing
stinks. Wow.
Adam Curry: All right. Well, I
think you've covered it.
John C Dvorak: No, maybe I think
you have I think I think I do
want to play one more this these
clips from South Africa. I just
think that too funny. Okay. Is
Israeli South Africa protests.
Unknown: And in South Africa
reconciliation day has taken on
a new form as hundreds they're
also gathered for a pro
Palestine March, knowing
firsthand what genocide and
forced displacement looks like.
local journalists. katlego Sami
told us more on this in this
report.
Adam Curry: Well, this doesn't
make much sense in if Russia is
in on it.
John C Dvorak: I believe me none
of it makes sense. But I'm just
That's why I can't prove
anything about the Russians. But
this this idea that this is this
is part of the fine I'm not
mistaken. This wasn't South
Africa pop up first populated by
the Afrikaners out of Holland
and there was nothing there
except a few band twos there was
really no force there was no
genocide or forced evacuations
back in the whenever that year
Adam Curry: was irrelevant
colonialism. That's what it is
colonialism and so
John C Dvorak: they just got it
so we were lying a new history
is we're managing to do with
these with these protests and,
and South Africa. protesting
about Palestine is ludicrous,
but okay, if I don't really want
to play anymore the clip Oh
goodness. You're done mad,
Adam Curry: you're mad. All
right. Well, then let's You
bring it stateside for a moment.
Because we are ratcheting up
tension. We are and it's all
political. Obviously. We just
had the Obama connected movie
about the cyber attack. The
hackers were all going to die
throwing some racial stuff. But
now the M five M is coming out
with a new one. Because we of
course now need to talk about
civil war. And I can I can tell
you that there's not going to be
a civil war in America just
isn't. Do you have any feeling
there's going to be an all out
Civil War I've ever ever
consider that that there's even
an inkling of that happening.
John C Dvorak: No, that's it's
obvious talking point from the
from the mainstream and Fox
talking heads that have to talk
about something and this is
pretty exciting. And I'm
Adam Curry: going to add to
that. One of the info Mavericks,
the new M five M I'm calling Tim
Poole out is that so there's a
new movie, you might have seen
the trailer it's called
John C Dvorak: Civil War he has
called Civil War. I've seen the
trailer Yes. 15
Adam Curry: states secede from
the Union and create an army and
they go to And funny enough,
it's Texas and California.
Because now of course,
John C Dvorak: yeah, we love it.
In fact, I think I think that's
the code that is not even within
the realm of possibilities now,
but do you do that as as a wink
wink, nudge nudge to the people
that are laughing up their
sleeves about this movie? Yes.
Adam Curry: But Tim Poole is all
in on it. And he's a part of it.
It's
Unknown: the moment you've all
been waiting for news.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. They're
playing it Tim Poole clip I
Adam Curry: am because he's part
of this new info Maverick
elites. He's a part of it. And
he's proud of it hates
Unknown: the moment you've all
been waiting for news dropped,
the new film is coming out in
2024. Called civil war. And what
is it about? Oh, man, you better
believe I'm excited. It is a
film about a civil war in the
United States. And I gotta say,
based on the trailer, I'm gonna
go man, it is funny that this
trailer drops and I get all
these people tweeting at me
being like Tim Poole, what do
you think? Yo, let me start by
saying this. The reason the
movie exists has nothing to do
with me. The reason I talk about
Civil War is the same reason
someone made a movie about it.
It's the same reason Stephen
Marsh wrote a book about it.
It's the same reason why
numerous news outlets have
written the same thing. We're
all looking at an ever expanding
culture war, division among
states, and many people
advocating for national divorce,
including elected members of
Congress. So you may watch my
show. And think Tim Poole talks
about this a lot. But I gotta be
honest, I probably talk about it
less than many in the corporate
press. As a large brand. Several
of these new news outlets have
way more articles about civil
war than videos I produce. I'm a
single, I'm a single person. But
if you only watch my show, or
you mostly watch it, you'll see
stories about Civil War pop up
or the conversation happen.
Somebody invested a lot of money
into making a movie about Civil
War, why it's on the American
mind. It's in the media, no
books, it's coming from the
mouths of Princeton professors.
And that resulted in me saying
Hey, guys, I think this might be
right. Bullshit. Get
Adam Curry: out of town. Can
John C Dvorak: I mention
something he did it Cuomo does
to bromo did it he just did it?
Where you ask a question and
throw the word why Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, they
all do that. They all do
John C Dvorak: your you say
well, do you what do you think
this is a why? You know, you
should make a statement as to
why and you say why? And then
you answer the question you ask
yourself. You may lame.
Adam Curry: I like you may only
watch my show. Come on. That was
good.
John C Dvorak: I like that.
Well, he's he knows how to
promote Well, yeah. Sound Do
Adam Curry: you like his sound?
John C Dvorak: I do. I think it
has a certain clarity. It's not
like your sound. But I think
he's got it. I think his sound
is heathen. I really like his
sound. I think he's got a nice
sound for his voice. I think it
I should say
Adam Curry: I Yeah, you didn't
have to say it at all. Really?
John C Dvorak: I didn't. You're
right. completely
Adam Curry: unnecessary. Reflect
up
John C Dvorak: on that play the
clip. Do you deserve it?
Adam Curry: But this is this is
what's not good for anybody.
This is the new the new
mainstream is starting to show
itself. And it's like Twitter
talking. It's led you know where
the the The old mainstream has
New York Times and The New
mainstream the has Elon Musk
basically and whatever he wants
to have happen on x and n it
there's a lot it's dumb there's
a lot of Dominus flooding
through and people are thinking
this is great freedom of speech
these people they know what
they're talking about yes of a
war no no no no you're being
played here at Temple may not be
not not a conscious participant
probably. But it's just this
it's wrong
John C Dvorak: lot of these guys
are getting a memo and you know
okay do this do that. Oh no, no
like the script. Get a script
kiddies are the kiddies but I
think the script readers on the
mainstream it's
Adam Curry: you know, I'm gonna
go back and say it again with
the New York Times was doing and
still does four mainstream M
five M That's what x and Musk is
doing for this new these info
mavericks and it's not healthy.
And I'm and we have to we have
to go against we got to call
them out, man. Call them out.
Gotta call them out. We got to
do a meanwhile, I will say that
the best news that came off of x
which of course we've got all
the videos on x for this one.
This is just mind boggling.
Unknown: You attend the United
States Senate is being rocked by
a sec scandal. US Capitol Police
are investigating after a sex
tape surfaced online. It showed
two men engaged in sex acts
inside room 216 of the hair
Senate office building that's a
famous hearing room where US
senators have grilled high
profile presidential nominees.
By the way.
Adam Curry: I like your script
very funny. Grilled very funny
with senators have grilled high
Unknown: profile presidential
nominees, including Supreme
Court justices. It's unclear if
the tape will be considered
criminal conduct but it may have
violated Senate ethics rules.
Adam Curry: I mean, this was
disgusting. And they just posted
everywhere. What is what is
going on? Does this happen?
John C Dvorak: It's just the
funniest thing I've seen for a
while. And it is disgusting. And
the one guy looks identifiable.
Adam Curry: Oh no, we everyone
knows who he is. He's he's known
now.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, who
is he? Oh, I
Adam Curry: haven't even I
didn't even write it down. Are
you kidding me? Kidding me? I'm
not gonna write that down. He's
and they know who's is from a
Democrat senators office. He's a
staffer. There's another picture
of him on whatever gay sex
website and he's naked in what
he calls the work showers with
his butt in the air and he says
I'm waiting for Lindsey Graham
so I don't know if this is some
this is some very deep op that
something
John C Dvorak: going on? We
don't know what it is. We'll
figure it out if it continues
because these things are not not
that complicated.
Adam Curry: So me what you were
talking about Taylor Swift. I
hate to say it but now back to
real. Taylor Swift the OP
continues
Unknown: a resolution
recognizing the year 2023 as the
Taylor Swift era in
Pennsylvania. Will the
House agree to the resolution?
House resolutions are not
legislation and their
consideration should not be a
function of our government. I
urge a no vote on this
resolution and suggest we get
back to actually governing Thank
you Madam Speaker.
Members information. House
resolutions are legislation and
apparently the haters gonna hate
hate hate hate hate.
So I rise to wish Taylor Swift
and all my birthday twins a very
happy birthday, especially
representatives mad and in
major. I know I have had the
best day with you. And I don't
know how it gets better than
this. Everyone's standing around
us singing Happy Birthday to
you. This resolution is a love
story. So baby, let's just say
Yes.
Clerk over core the vote on the
resolution. The yeas are 103,
the nays are 100.
Adam Curry: The resolution is
adaptive. Fantastic. fantasise
Pennsylvania we
John C Dvorak: should mention
that we spotted the Taylor Swift
up
Adam Curry: in 2009
John C Dvorak: or before today,
I do have clips came out of
this. She was being highlighted
as a superstar back in 2008,
maybe
Adam Curry: 2008 When we had
John C Dvorak: some clips of her
you know they they're talking
about her she's just a He had I
think he's just 17 at the time
noodle and she's the next big
thing. And she was she was
talking to the band about
doodling doodling midday to doo
doo doo. And she was showing
them how to put together songs
we have the clip somewhere, I
don't know where they where they
are. And
Adam Curry: these are music
works. Okay, so I know a little
bit about how music and the
business works. And her music
is, but you can't sing but five
of her songs, I'm not talking
about the Swifties who are all
in and completely mind
controlled. Because that's what
it is. But these work at a at a
psychological level. As you
mentioned earlier, four chords
it's I mean, you could these are
all riffs and songs that have
been done before it's hits. As
long as you repeat a song over
and over again, it becomes a
hit. That's just how it works.
As long as as long as it's not
off key and junk. You can make
anything a hit as long as you
repeat it. And Spotify is algos
being everything, it's all and
she'll be unleashed. The Op has
not yet been unleashed. But it
will be and it will be for the
2024 election. I
John C Dvorak: was kind of
skeptical that thesis at the at
the start. But after listening
to this guy, discuss your music
and some other things that are
going on, including your being
Man of the Year for Time
magazine, I use that term
because that's what it was
originally.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a lot
of people out there saying that
Taylor Swift is a man, which is
a funny meme. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I don't buy
Adam Curry: into it either. And
please don't email me, don't
email me with your proof finish.
John C Dvorak: And, but the but
this has been going on for a
long time. And she has been. And
he has concerts and the vendor
and then meet up with Jason
Kelsey, or Travis Kelsey. Sorry.
Adam Curry: From now on, known
as Jason Kelsey.
John C Dvorak: But he could be
Jason. I think Jason's his
brother, so that might not work
out.
Adam Curry: But this is nothing
new artists have been abused for
political reasons forever.
Forever. And Hillary the last
kind of attempt was Hillary with
Beyonce and didn't really work.
John C Dvorak: You know, but and
I don't think this will work
either. To be honest about it. I
don't think there's many there's
memes out there that are already
contradicting the possibility
Adam Curry: the fact that Kara
Swisher was all in on Taylor
Swift tells me it's an OP she's
all jacked about Taylor Swift
she predicted
John C Dvorak: Taylor Swift
swift to be jacked about she's
she's a she predicted that
Adam Curry: Taylor Swift will be
person Time Magazine's Person of
the Year, which means she was in
on it because
John C Dvorak: you knew that's
not a prediction you can make
unless you know that let's face
it because
Adam Curry: Reed Hoffman of
LinkedIn is it LinkedIn or is it
to force? Salesforce?
John C Dvorak: No, Reid Hoffman,
I think is LinkedIn. Which I
thought was sold to Microsoft
Adam Curry: anyway. It's he's
he's a very rich, incredibly
liberal dude. He owns Time
Magazine. We know how these
things go. You have a quick
meeting. Here we're gonna make a
Time Magazine Person of the
Year. Well, let's call into DC.
John C Dvorak: This whole you'd
also want to put some feeler you
want to put some test feelers
out there. You have somebody a
stooge, useful idiot come out
and say, Yeah, I can I predict
that Taylor Swift will be the
first of the year. There's just
people don't throw stuff at you
and call you an idiot. Oh,
that's not a bad idea. Then
okay, we'll go ahead with it. It
could have been just a test test
marketing.
Adam Curry: Alright, let's go to
some more sigh up because
there's there's a really fun
seems to be all we talk about.
Yes, there's a fun one. And this
is and because we just talked
about him. He's he had time to
leave the shower and go to meet
the press. Lindsey Graham,
Senator Lindsey Graham of South
Carolina. And, you know, Trump
had Oh, man. Trump had a
horrible, horrible speech. He
said some horrible, horrible
things. Actually, before I go to
him, I'll play. Well, mate,
yeah. Let me play the same. It's
the same topic as CBS Face the
Nation. Margaret Brennan, with
Chris Coons,
Unknown: some of your fellow
Democrats, like Bob Menendez
have said it's shameful and
selling out migrants and asylum
seekers. Why is he wrong?
John C Dvorak: I understand
Senator Menendez passion on the
part of making sure that our
immigration system is safe,
legal and humane. But as I've
often said, in talking about the
campaign for 24, President Biden
needs to be compared not to the
Almighty, not to a perfect
alternative, but to the actual
alternative and you just played
for Congressman Gonzalez, the
stunning, hateful, fascist
rhetoric of former President
Trump when he's talking about
poisoning the Blood of our
nation, the former president
would bring in place, not these
modest changes to asylum policy,
but radical and dramatic changes
to immigration policy. We need
to take seriously that there is
a border security crisis. And we
need to take responsible steps
that reflect our values. Okay,
so
Adam Curry: this is the OP, the
OP is poisoning the blood of
Americans. Let's go back with
the previous guests.
Unknown: I want to bring up
something that we discussed with
our last guest, which was a
remark from Donald Trump
yesterday, and I want to play it
here because I know you have
endorsed Mr. Trump for
president.
They're poisoning the blood of
our country. That's what they've
done. They poison mental
institutions and prisons all
over the world, not just in
South America, not just the
three or four countries that we
think about. But all over the
world that coming into our
country, from Africa, from Asia
all over the world.
Do you endorse the sentiment
that immigrants are poisoning
the blood of our country?
I think immigrants are the
lifeblood of our country. And
it's important that we have it
the Republican from Texas
immigrants, I've been a
proponent of legal immigration.
And what this open border crisis
is don't
John C Dvorak: stop. There is a
we have a process called legal
immigration. We'll get to that.
So now all of a sudden, he's a
proponent. Like it's something
new now.
Adam Curry: Screw these guys.
The point we're still on the
poisoning the blood
John C Dvorak: gather. I
Valley's bad boys. Yeah, little
Adam Curry: boys. And
Unknown: what this open border
crisis is done. It's put legal
immigrants to the back of the
line. And it's it's encouraged
illegal immigration, and it's
created this rhetoric, and it's
created this anger. And it's not
just former President Trump. I
mean, in my district, people are
angry, Margaret, all throughout
the country. People are angry
and seeing all this chaos. It's
why it's so important that the
House, the Senate and the
president come together and find
a real solution, a national
security, a national security
package that takes care of our
allies also protects us at home,
not only from foreign threats,
but also internal threats,
because the anger is very real.
I realized that we need to
acknowledge it. But that
phrasing poisoning the blood is
reminiscent of language. The
White House says Hitler used
which is why I wanted to get you
to specifically respond to this.
Adam Curry: So
John C Dvorak: yes, so she only
she was she has a script from
the White House. Is that what
she just told us? Yes.
Adam Curry: And this is the
headline. The headline
everywhere is Trump takes Trump
Donald Trump paraphrases Adolf
Hitler by telling rally that
migrants are poisoning the blood
of our country phrase first
appeared in fewer book mine
calm. So I got my copy out.
John C Dvorak: Good of mine.
I'll have copies of mine calm.
Adam Curry: Everybody should
read. It's like you got to read
the Unabomber manifesto.
John C Dvorak: You should read
the Bible. You should read mine
comp. You should read a lot of
books.
Adam Curry: And there is no
phrase poisoning the blood of
America or Germans. The word
poisoning the
John C Dvorak: blood is what
your poison PDF search. That's
what I would do.
Adam Curry: That's what I'm
doing. I'm doing a search I'm
having right now. Wholesale
poisoning of the public mind
poisoning of the public mind
poisoning of our sexual blood
poisoning. I'm sorry, not sexual
blood. What do you say here? Let
me go back. sexual life
poisoning of the sound instinct
wasting
John C Dvorak: of our sexual
life. The hell's he talking
about?
Adam Curry: Well, let me go
back. Let me see what he was
talking about. These are the
dolphin tragic witnesses to the
steadily increasing scourge that
is poisoning our sexual Well, in
Hitler's days. There was a lot
of transgenderism. You know, a
lot of you know, there are a lot
of gay stuff going that's what
the what the Cabaret is about.
Yeah, the movie cabaret. Yes. So
their sufferings are the visible
results of parental vise. So
he's not saying that they're
poisoning the blood poisoning of
the sound instincts of our
people poisoning the popular
mind use
John C Dvorak: the word
poisoning as though poison is a
synonymous okay, I get it. So
this so there's really shit is
what you're telling. This is
Adam Curry: a lie. It's a lie.
It's a lie. And they can look
how it wasn't that hard for me
to bring up the PDF and do a
little search wasn't hard.
Here's a Good Morning America
Unknown: overnight, FORMER
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP facing
swift backlash for his attacks
on immigrants. Former President
Donald Trump campaigning in New
Hampshire sounding as confident
as ever
what happened to the bounce? You
know with Nicki, they talked
about the surge mocking his
GOP primary opponents who he
called backstabbing, established
Schmidt losers for trailing in
the polls. His speech peppered
with personal insults at one
point calling New Hampshire's
popular Republican governor a
quote spoiled brat Governor
Chris Sununu this week endorsing
Nikki Haley, saying she can not
only win his state, but deliver
a Republican landslide. Beyond
his rivals. Trump also upped his
attacks on immigrants with
highly offensive white
nationalist rhetoric, evoking
similar language to Nazi
propaganda about the purity of
this country's, quote, blood.
Everybody first except America,
Trump's crowd full of fervent
fans. Doesn't Trump have your
vote? Yes. Did you consider any
of the other candidates? Also in
the state this weekend, Florida
Governor Ron DeSantis, who
brushed off any idea of joining
a Trump ticket?
You know, I'd rather be governor
than vice president.
No question I didn't he thinks
Trump will try to delegitimize
any results in early still wrong
does not win. If Trump loses
he will say it's stolen no
Adam Curry: matter what. Okay.
All right. So there it is. It's
Nazism. And now everyone who's a
Trump fan can't You can't be a
supporter. You're a fan. You're
a fan. You're a Nazi. Now we'll
play the bit with the Lindy hat.
Lindy Hop, grey hat. We've got a
reasonably appropriate response
before
Unknown: I let you go. I do want
to get your reaction to that
former President Trump said
overnight, he was in New
Hampshire, he was talking about
the need to keep immigrants out
of this country. Here's what he
said, I'll get your response.
They're
poisoning the blood of our
country. That's what they've
done. They poison mental
institutions.
Adam Curry: Now. What do you
think he means? Let's just stop
for a second. Because he says
this all you have to have to
listen to the whole Trump thing
says the poisoning the blood of
our country. They're poisoning
mental institutions. What
exactly is he really talking
about immigrants here? What does
he mean? Well,
John C Dvorak: I think and I
think for one thing, he's
rambling. Yes. And because he
delays the wedding, random till
institutions, what's he talking
about? I think he's talking
about immigrants coming in and
kind of upsetting the mechanism
of state.
Adam Curry: I think he's just
overloading is what I think he
means. Oh, yeah. Overloading? I
John C Dvorak: think that would
be yes, we're loading
overloading.
Adam Curry: But no, because the
word is poisoning the blood and
all they're not know your
airways race
John C Dvorak: and the word
blood, obviously, Nazi
Adam Curry: Aryan race, white
nationalists to keep
Unknown: immigrants out of this
country. Here's what he said,
I'll get your response. They're
poisoning the blood of our
country. That's what they've
done. They poisoned mental
institutions and prisons all
over the world, not just in
South America, not just the
three or four countries that we
think about. But all over the
world that coming into our
country from Africa, from Asia
all over the world.
The Biden campaign has accused
former President Trump of quote,
parroting Adolf Hitler
Adam Curry: and interesting
she's said the White House she
says the Biden campaign, so at
least he's a little more honest
about it, but it's coming from
the White House.
Unknown: What is your reaction
are the President's comments,
representative? Have you and
other Republicans feel 76%
of the American people, not
Donald Trump bleed the borders
broken? They're worried about
that. No coming over killing
them.
But what about his language?
Just that language that
poisoning the blind? Yeah,
no. I'm worried about an
outcome. He is right to what he
had the border secured the
lowest in 40 years in December
of 2020. To the Biden
administration. You're talking
about Donald Trump's language as
you sit on the sidelines and
allowed the country to be
invaded. 172 people on the
terrorist watch list have come
on your watch fentanyl is
killing Americans, Senator
anytime it
goes from language just on the
language.
Adam Curry: Let's get to the
Nazi party.
Unknown: I want to get your
response you have endorsed
former President Trump are you
comfortable on
John C Dvorak: top? What show is
this? And who is that woman?
Adam Curry: This is Kristen
Welker. This is the Welker she's
terrible. The new face to face
depress nation, but
John C Dvorak: he doesn't
listen. I never thought she she
had her own little show on NBC.
They all have this these test
shows that Dave people don't
know at NBC as like, Can new
shows. They're all exactly the
same with the same stories, but
they're all done by different
people. Tom Yamas has one Yeah,
but Kristen, welcome. Well,
welcome
Adam Curry: to the black. She's
more brown.
John C Dvorak: She's a multi
CultI looking, but she was okay
reading you know, teleprompter.
She was fine. But this is an
example of someone who doesn't
listen.
Adam Curry: Now her job is to
press this sentence. That's what
you hear God says says no good.
John C Dvorak: I did not think
she was going to be good when
she took this job. She just
Adam Curry: wanted specifically
poisoning the blood sure is that
not in mind calm? Is that not
Nazi talk right there? Is he not
the reincarnation of Adolf
Hitler himself sir. This is a
senator invaded
Unknown: 172 people on the
terrorist watch list of come on
your watch fentanyl is
Adam Curry: killing. Here's this
she's like a cicada since
allowed the country
Unknown: to be invaded 172
people on the terrorist watch
lists have come on your watch
fentanyl is killing Americans
Senator any German
language just on the language
though I want to get your
respect you have endorsed former
President Trump. Are you
comfortable? Do
Adam Curry: you endorse a Nazi?
With him using
Unknown: words like that?
Adam Curry: Man, this is so old.
This is Hello 2015. We're
Unknown: talking about language.
I could care less what language
people use as long as we get it
right. Live in legal
immigration. I have no animosity
toward people trying to come to
our country. I have animosity
against terrorists and against
drug dealers. But I understand
why people want to come to
America, but we have chaos. And
we need to create order if you
think you're going to win the
debate on illegal immigration.
But picking a line out of the
Trump speech. Most Americans
understand the game has to
change that we're under threat
that we're gonna get attacked,
that our borders completely been
obliterated. So if you're
talking about the language Trump
uses rather than trying to fix
it, that's a losing strategy for
the Biden administration. Now
Adam Curry: I have the Wow, he's
good.
John C Dvorak: Let's face it.
Like he did? He's an old pro.
That is not going to be no he's
not really now the worst and
Welker, who's an idiot,
Adam Curry: now it's time for a
shower. Now, I have a minute of
the Trump speech and I have an
issue with his language because
we know what the problem is. The
problem is, this administration
has told the Department of
Homeland Security, catch and
release let them go. It's
policy. It is not, I repeat, it
is not the wall. It is you
doesn't matter how big the wall
is or how high the fence is. If
people can come in and they have
either an app that says you're
good to go, which is how they're
coming in through airports. Yep.
Or you can get a ride. You just
wait. There's no way to put an
entire big beautiful wall that
keeps everybody out. Once you
get in. If if there's no
repercussion, people will keep
coming. I got a shot. And then
and of course, our own. Our own
people who now run the
international office of of
immigration at the United
Nations are giving the prepaid
debit cards, you got the buses,
the only you just gotta cross
the Rio Grande that last bit
you'll get wet. Don't worry
about it. And you can see it
people are showing up. They've
got clean clothes, everything's
good to go. Nice. Backpack
backpack, you just gotta get in.
And once you're in, it's a
policy you're in. You're in is
it's about parole. It's like the
disco. But Trump, this is I had
this is my issue with Trump. I
don't understand why he doesn't
call out what it is. This
actually this this speech,
because that's, that's the gross
offense here. He's treating
people like they're morons and
Unknown: a lot of work to do.
You know, when they let, I think
the real number is 15 16 million
people into our country. When
they do that we got a lot of
work to do. They're poisoning
the blood of our country. That's
what they've done. They poisoned
mental institutions and prisons
all over the world, not just in
South America, not just the
three or four countries that we
think about. But all over the
world that coming into our
country from Africa from Asia
all over the world they're
pouring into our country
nobody's even looking at him
they just come in the crime is
going to be tremendous. The
terrorism is going to be
terrorism is going to be no we
built a tremendous piece of the
wall and then we're going to
build more and the election was
rigged and we didn't do it but I
figured that just throw it up
would have taken three weeks it
was all built there was already
to be just hoisted up the exact
wall that the Border Patrol who
are incredible Brandon Judd and
all people Border Patrol. That's
exactly what they designed. They
had the anti climb bars and
everything. And you know what
they did? They didn't want it to
go up. They sold it for five
cents on the dollar. Can you
believe it? All of that stuff?
Is
very sad.
Adam Curry: It's just
irrelevant. That's not the
problem. People know they can
come because it's you're good to
go. You're not going to get in
trouble. It's not the wall. No,
I'm a little sick of that. He
used to change that message.
Because just as this you know,
come on. They're smarter people.
John C Dvorak: He dropped a
Mexico's gonna pay for it. Yeah,
that was
Adam Curry: also dumb. That was
a loser. Meanwhile, something we
missed in the National Defense
Authorization Act.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure there's
more than all
Adam Curry: coming Now we missed
the big one
Unknown: Congress approving a
bill preventing any US president
from withdrawing from NATO,
without approval from the Senate
or an act of Congress. measures
included in the recently passed
National Defense Authorization
Act. Democratic Senator Tim
Kaine and Republican Senator
Marco Rubio spearheaded that
bill, which marks Congress's
commitment to the NATO alliance.
Adam Curry: Big miss. Okay,
thanks, Rubio.
John C Dvorak: Wow, you know
what that tells me? Trump's
gonna be our next president.
Pretty sure part of the overall
the they're lining stuff up.
Yep. They're just sort hit
thwart word. The word I want
Adam Curry: to warn was his, his
motive.
John C Dvorak: Okay, he's going
to be president. We're going to,
you know, we're going to see oh,
by the way, I got a note from
one of our producers who sent $1
bill with it. Oh, yeah. Taking
part in my game, which is who's
pick the Vice President? And I
thought he had a good one. Ben
Carson. No, no, no, I liked the
idea of Ben Carson.
Adam Curry: I'm staying with he
was loyal to Trump.
John C Dvorak: He never quit. He
didn't backstab me didn't write
a book. He's smart. And he's was
once a presidential candidate
himself. I like Ben Carson is a
vice VP. He's
Adam Curry: not even on the
list. yet. I'm sticking with
Elise. I think she I think
she's, she's nice. Yeah. The
daughter. Know, though. The only
way I can remember her name from
New York. No, the one who, who
jealous. Panic. Yeah, the one
who jacked up the university
president. Yeah, she's
John C Dvorak: still she's at,
she's doing good. work,
Adam Curry: and play. She's in
play. There's another thing is
kind of a now C span we have one
of our producers, he loyally
sends in every single between
shows, he sends in C span
callers. And,
John C Dvorak: but just to be my
beat, I might add, well,
Adam Curry: you know, you don't
treat people with kindness. And
you know, you block them. And,
and they go away. So they come
to me. Of course, they also
think I'm your assistant, your
intern. Tell John, this. This is
a new conspiracy launched from
the Democrat line. I love this
conspiracy. Next up,
Unknown: let's hear from Kathy
and Satellite Beach, Florida. On
our democratic line. Yes, I have
a question about the binder of
raw Russian data that's been
missing since Trump left office.
It's about 10 inches thick, full
of all the raw data that America
has collected on sources and
methods and everything. And the
reason I bring it up is because
I've always wondered why Ivana
Trump's casket had pin
pallbearers When Princess
Diana's lead line casket only
had six, I mean, that casket had
to have been hugely heavy. And
with all the missing boxes of
secret documents that everybody
keeps talking about, I think
that they need to go to the golf
course where Trump had her
buried and just take a look say
just out of curiosity, I want to
know where that binder of raw
Russian excuse me information
went.
Adam Curry: Okay, Alton, is I
love it, dig her up. Dig her up.
This is the best Trump buried do
it to eventually you watch. Oh,
it's coming Trump. This is it
Trump buried the Russian
documents that show all the
collusion buried it with Ivanka,
dig her up. Meanwhile, the real
news is this former top
Unknown: FBI counterintelligence
official faces five years in
prison after pleading guilty to
working with a Russian oligarch
he wants investigated. Charles
McGonigal admitted he accepted
more than $17,000 from Oleg
Deripaska mechanical lead the
FBI is Counterintelligence
division between 2016 and
2018 $17,000.
John C Dvorak: Are you kidding
me? That's nothing. I know. But
he from an oligarch I know. But
you know,
Adam Curry: he this guy was a
part of Operation crossfire.
This guy was a part of it. The
guys who were accusing Trump of
being in collusion. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And he was in
collusion.
Adam Curry: This guy was
completely in collusion come
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: even though he's
a bid some people think is
basically just a Russian spy and
it was 70,000 is a bullshit
number anyway. I
Adam Curry: mean, that's they
all that's in there, so that we
don't talk about it. Go away. Go
away News. Hey, dig up, dig her
up that you watch dig her up.
It's gonna be a chant. Dig her
pick her
John C Dvorak: up. Dig her up.
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. NPR
is very upset that I love this
lady. I love this lady. She's
very upset about how the media
is covering Trump. They're not
doing it right. You're doing it
all wrong. This has been a a
theme amongst journalists that
we're not doing it. We're doing
it all wrong. We're going to
help them win again.
Unknown: I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and
this is a Sunday story. And the
fourth and final Republican
debate on December 6, Governor
Chris Christie addressed the
elephant in the room. Him He
warned Americans of what may
come if Donald Trump gets
reelected president.
Let me make it clear. His
conduct is unacceptable. He's
unfit and be careful what you're
gonna get. If you ever got
another Donald Trump term, he's
letting you know, I am your
retribution. You will only be
Elizabeth. He will only be his
own retribution. He doesn't care
for the American people. It's
Donald Trump.
First. How to cover Trump is I
think you're right. I
Adam Curry: think that was a dig
by saying the elephant in the
room for Chris Christie. I think
that was one of those intimate
John C Dvorak: journalistic
puns.
Adam Curry: That shame
attribution.
Unknown: He doesn't care for the
American people. It's Donald
Trump. By
John C Dvorak: the way, hold on.
What was the that was the what
was there? No elephant in the
room.
Adam Curry: The Trump wasn't
there. That was the elephant in
the room. Well, that's
John C Dvorak: an elephant not
in the room by
Adam Curry: Yeah. How to
Unknown: cover Trump is a
question that's haunted the
media since Trump's surprise
when in 2016 haunted
Adam Curry: the media, oh, the
media is haunted. We're
journalists were trained to Jay
school were haunted. We don't
know how to do it. A
Unknown: 2018 study
John C Dvorak: show a lot of
second this stuff. I need to do
this. So no, I love it. I love
it when you do but it just seems
to me that this is like a rebuke
of journalism. Why should it be
haunted about anything that
reporters are supposed to report
the news not not be in the news
and the news and that's you
shouldn't be haunted by the
results of their reporting.
Adam Curry: Perhaps you should
take another J school course and
see what they're teaching these
journalists should
John C Dvorak: they're teaching
something I'm unfamiliar with
how
Unknown: to cover Trump is a
question that's haunted the
media since Trump's surprise
when in 2016 surprise when a
2018 study showed that Trump
received around $2 billion in
free media we got substantially
more coverage than his opponents
aiming his campaign. Now Trump
is dominating headlines again as
he faces federal indictments and
civil lawsuits while campaigning
at the same time,
Adam Curry: making every This
isn't by the way, this is a
great edit. I did not do this,
but they pan left and right with
all of his crazy talk. I'm
making
Unknown: every executive branch
employee fireable by the
President, as I said, I will
keep men out of women's sports
and I will sign a law
prohibiting child sexual
mutilation we will root out the
communist Marxist fascist and
the radical left thugs that
lives like vermin within the
confines of our country will
carry out the largest domestic
deportation operation in
American history.
My other job is host of Weekend
Edition Sunday, I did an
interview recently, that really
made me think about Trump and
how we cover him as journalist.
Adam Curry: I want to share as
journalist, this, you're missing
it as darling journalist.
Unknown: I wanted to share it
with you, I spoke with two
people who believe the media is
failing in the way it's
reporting on Trump and Warren,
these failures put our democracy
at risk
Adam Curry: a mockery of
democracy, our democracy got
destroyed with the Patriot Act,
lady, here we go associate. This
was a 25 minute program. I just
pulled two other clips. Here's a
douche who writes for The
Atlantic. And this is his view
of what we should do. I
Unknown: I've got a pretty
pessimistic outlook on this
because I think that what's
happening with Trump is that a
lot of the things that he's
doing, both in terms of what
he's posting on truth, social is
social media network. And what
he's saying at rallies, is not
cutting through to the ordinary
voter. And that's important
because some of the stuff he's
saying is the most extreme
rhetoric of any presidential
candidate in the last four or
five, six decades. So I'll give
you an example of this. There
was a rally in October where
Trump floated the idea of
shooting shoplifters on site, so
anyone who commits a petty crime
as killed it's an extrajudicial
killing that the leading
contender for the Republican
nomination floated, and right
after that he floated the idea
of joking about it I'm Paul
Pelosi being nearly beaten to
death of a hammer. And there was
no coverage of this for three
days in the New York Times, at
which point it appeared on page
14.
Adam Curry: So here he is
complaining about the broken
elite messaging system, the New
York Times and New York Times is
doing it wrong.
Unknown: And I think what the
press is doing is it's thinking,
people know, Trump says crazy
stuff lots of the time. And
that's fine. But it's still very
important that they see it,
because, you know, there's
another bit of rhetoric he
recently posted on tweet social,
where he effectively implied
that the former top general of
United States Mark Milley
deserve to be executed. And, you
know, that is one of the most
unbelievable things that a
president could say one of the
most extreme things. It was not
covered in most of the press.
And I think that is a real
failing, where we're not
understanding the scale of the
threat that Trump poses because
it's been baked in as sort of
what I call the banality and
crazy that it's so routine that
is not generating headlines,
Adam Curry: this guy is giving
them the exact wrong advice.
Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: agree. He's
saying the opposite of what
should be done. So now let's go
back to just given Trump
whatever crazy thing Trump says,
push it. Is this
Adam Curry: is so dumb, okay,
then we have to do shit from The
Guardian. So I think that
Unknown: newsroom leaders need
to be and maybe they're doing
this, you know, maybe some
newsroom
Adam Curry: leaders, leaders
leader I call the editor isn't
called the editor or you
John C Dvorak: I guess, yeah.
Adam Curry: But must be right.
Unknown: So I think that
newsroom leaders need to be and
maybe they're doing this, you
know, maybe some of them are
doing it. And maybe they're
doing it a little. But I think
they need to get our staffs and
their staffs in general, and
talk about what I wrote my
column about we we, the public
is not getting the importance of
this election. They're not
getting what the stakes and the
consequences are.
Adam Curry: They don't get it.
You're stupid. You don't get it
people you don't understand you
don't get it. You're not
listening to us. We've got to
ratchet it up. You don't get it,
you don't get it.
Unknown: How can we go about?
How can we go about changing
that? How can we get across the
extreme nature of this by just
reporting and you know, it has
to do with emphasis it has to do
with where you put stories, what
kind of articles you do what the
headlines are, but we're still
sort of stuck in an old way of
covering both sides, trying very
hard to make sure that no one
ever says that we're partisan
and trying to be partisan. It
calls for a rethinking in
newsrooms of how to communicate
to our readers and viewers.
John C Dvorak: I like to comment
on this. Yes, please. Now,
historically, reporting was
always partisan. Yes. That's why
you had like a newspaper in
Santa Rosa, the press Democrat.
There we at the Oakland Tribune
used to be a Republican
newspaper. There's one up in New
Hampshire that's notoriously a
Republican or was a notoriously
Republican newsletter, or
newspaper, I'm sorry,
newsletter, newspaper. And these
newspapers were very partisan.
And they took a perspective and
a point of view. And that's why
journalism schools appeared
because it was getting to the
point where they somebody
decided that it's not a good
thing. So they went to, you
know, teaching people how to do
that. I say, have three people
quoted, you got to have both
sides of the story. You got to
do this, scatter that. And it
just naturally gravitates
because I can find Mastodon
tweets, or tweets, whatever
they're called, have all kinds
of journalists that have all
scampered away from Twitter. And
they've gone to their own little
hole hovels, and they're all
talking about you, we can't let
Trump win we have to do this. We
have to do that. And if you
remember that journos, journos
little room or banner used group
whatever the hell it was, it was
a meeting me up space we talked
about on the show back in the
day, where they were the
Democrat, a journalist would all
get together and grouse. That
was supposed to be eliminated.
It's it gravitates right back
toward it. And there is nobody
that's on the Republican side
except for Fox News. Then there
were not even good Republicans
Adam Curry: voted on by
Democrats. Yeah, yeah. But it's
the whole system's broken
doesn't work anymore. People
like this. They want tick tock.
They want you know, quick hits,
they want to see this boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom. Now we're all we're
all highly malleable. Give me
some dopamine. Give me something
and I want to own the libs. I
want to post the memes. I know I
see it. This is what's
happening. This is what's
happening. People are out of
control. By the way, there's so
much talk about Trump. You know,
if he is reelected, oh, my
goodness. I mean, that will be
the end of democracy, the end of
the world. World is no, no, it's
no democracy, where democracy is
done. Of course, we have a
republic. And we have a very
interesting system. Yes, we, as
a republic, let's get that
straight. You have a very
interesting system when it comes
to the presidential election,
which is the electoral college.
And we've discussed this many
times on the show, I think it's,
but I'll play this clip of Bill
and Hillary Clinton. And then we
should probably just run through
one more time, what the
electoral college is for why it
was put in place, and why it is
important. But first, let's
listen to those bastions of
democracy. Bill and Hillary
Clinton, you know, it's funny, I
saw them on stage together. This
is at a Bloomberg conference
about a month and a half ago.
And it took me it took me like
20 minutes before I remembered,
oh, yeah, they're married. It
was just like two separate
people. I don't even connect
them as a couple anymore. It's
very weird. It starts off with
Bill, do you
Unknown: think direct election
of the President, popular vote
would be preferable to the
Electoral College method, we
adopted the Electoral College,
when we were 13 states. But it
also helped to load up the
electoral votes of the southern
states that had slaves. Now we
know that the effect of the
electoral college is to give
about 36 extra votes to the most
culturally conservative and for
this dried American states. And
I have no objection to them
voting, I want them all to vote,
I would not unlike some of them.
I've never tried to make it
harder for him to vote, I'd make
it easier for him to vote, a lot
the votes counted, and a
waterfall account, but I just
don't think you can justify that
today.
I assume you prefer direct
election as well.
Adam Curry: Oh, I definitely
prefer. So they're anti
constitutionalists. Yeah. And I
think we should because they did
a very poor job. They said, Oh,
is because you know, the
Republicans or, you know, the
conservative states. Of course,
you know, that's switched. But
no, it's the states in the South
was racist. They had slaves and
they were going to win because
they counted the slaves. That's
why it was the Electoral
College. Is that the truth, our
constitutional experts work, I
John C Dvorak: mean, that you
can make that I think that
argument can be made. But I
don't think that's the real
argument that recent Electoral
College was put together, it was
to prevent a big states that
overpopulated states, The New
York's and counties nobody liked
at the time. And the Phillies
note that New Yorkers were hated
because they were Dutch, I think
is the reason you gotta hate
those guys. And it was the so
they didn't run roughshod over
the little states like Rhode
Island and Delaware and Vermont,
and the rest of America. So they
tried to give him create an even
footing, because it was so eat
because the big states were
corrupt. They had the corrupt
policies that corrupt
politicians. And the idea was,
you know, once in a while,
you're gonna get a situation
where the majority of people are
going to vote for the corrupt
guy, and this will keep that
from from that person from
getting in office. I Hillary
being the best example that
recently. Yes,
Adam Curry: and exactly. It was
a an escape hatch in case some
nut job was about to come to
power.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think
that I think that rationale is
more accurate now than the other
one. And then the other thing
is, I've written this opinion,
good Divorce Act, that substack
that come and read my article
about this. I've said that over
time, the Electoral College has
to go, because it advertised
does not fairly distribute
advertising dollars throughout
the country. During presidential
elections, the only states to
get the advertising dollars are
those swing states that are
going to determine who wins in
the Electoral College. And this
is unfair to the media outlets
in California and New York,
don't get any money because
they're gonna vote Democrat. So
why are we going to give them
any money to do advertising? So
we, in fact, when you're out
here, you see during the
presidential campaigning, you
see nothing no ads, there's like
breasts like there's not even an
event. And so they so because of
that, I think that the media
will continue to promote the
idea of abolishing it. Yes. But
that's a completely that's a
outlier position that I taken,
and I still believe it. No, I'm
Adam Curry: with you. I like
that explanation. That's why the
media keeps promoting it.
John C Dvorak: There otherwise
why would they care? You had a
Adam Curry: clip this past
veterans They actually was a
twofer clip. I mean, it was
President Biden speaking on
Veterans Day. Do you remember
these clips? If I hear him I
probably would. You'll remember
this one this 44 second clip,
you'll remember it hit
Unknown: Biden administration on
Friday announcing three steps to
improve the life of America's
veterans ahead of Saturday's
Veterans Day. First is expanding
no cost health care to all
living World War Two veterans,
eligible vets will be able to
claim those benefits starting
this month. This includes
nursing home care, some veterans
who suffer from Parkinson's
disease will also be eligible
for free health care.
Adam Curry: So this report, and
the President did say that he
said, we will have free care for
World War Two veterans, there's
only about 250,000 of them left.
Amazing. It's that many. And we
got a boots on the ground report
from one of our producers, who
says a few weeks ago, my family
was excited to hear on your
show, the President Biden had
announced free nursing home care
for all World War Two veterans.
My wife's 96 year old
grandfather is a world war two
veteran who landed in Nagasaki
about two weeks after the bomb
dropped. He is currently in a
facility that's not so great.
And we were excited the prospect
of him moving into better care
despite his limited funds. After
was put on a waitlist for the
local five star VA facility, I
decided to do more research.
That's when I found out it's all
a lie. The VA secretly updated
the announcement to say that
only certain World War Two
veterans were eligible. My
wife's grandfather is not one of
them. So they indeed they
updated this to say, update to
the release. nursing home care
is free for nearly all World War
Two veterans who are eligible
for nursing home services at VA
including one anyone in need of
such care for a service
connected disability. And to
anyone in need of such care who
also has a service connected
disability rated at 70% or more.
That is such I mean, that's low
even for Biden. That's low. I
mean, come on. It's a quarter of
a million dudes. And you're
going to do that. I thought that
was just that.
John C Dvorak: This discussion
broke my heart. It broke my
heart. Well, yeah.
Adam Curry: And how long? How
long is it gonna be a year? Two
years. Really? How long is it
gonna last? So I, I just bought
John C Dvorak: this sort of
thing that we're getting from
these guys. And that's why I
brought it bitched and moaned
earlier about the fact that
we're pumping more oil than ever
before and making it seem that
Oh, no, no, we're very
environmentally conscious. Oh,
yeah. Cop 28 Blah, blah, blah.
And then Trump laws right,
justice, blah, blah, blah. And
so Trump, you know, is wrong.
I'm gonna drill drill drill
word, that's what we're doing.
But nobody. Democrats are just
terrible people.
Adam Curry: It's a terrible
team. I'm not. They may be okay,
people. They're just in a bad
environment. You gotta You gotta
love them. You can't just dig
her up. That's all I got.
John C Dvorak: That's what I
mean. That's a good example.
Adam Curry: For take the break.
A fun little moment happened on
the view. It's always funny when
these things take place. Of
course they are running, running
interference for President
Biden. You know, he's just a
good dad. He just has a crappy
son. Come on. Stop already. And
Anand Aveiro. Well, she drops a
canard of epic proportions.
Unknown: Hunter Biden. Yes. I
think he's engaged in
corruption. I do think that the
charges against him by the
Department of Justice are very
serious. I have not seen one
shred of evidence that it's tied
to Joe Biden. Yeah, that's what
it comes down to to me. And by
the way, someone who's No, no
Joe Biden fan. Steve Doocy. On
Fox News has been hammering
James Comey. Give me one thing,
one piece of evidence otherwise
it's a waste of taxpayer
dollars.
Joe Biden's crime is being
Hunter Biden's father and being
hunted by this very loving
father. Very good father very
supportive. Father, father. Did
Hunter Biden influence peddle on
his last name? Yes, he did. So
did half of Washington. People
sitting at this table did it?
Did Joe did Hunter Biden. Biden.
Did Hunter Biden cheat on his
taxes? Yes, he did. At this
table peddled. Oh no, I did not
talking about currently. Oh, we
just tried to clear our name.
Do I have a claim to fame?
Sorry. Back to my point, please.
Yes. Yeah. We've cleared it up.
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Did he
Use his last name to make money
to Mark did he monetize on Joe
Biden's last name? Yes he did.
That's not a crime. Did your
Hunter Biden cheat on his taxes?
Yes, he did say he has admitted
it. He paid it back. He paid it
back with $600,000 penalty.
Adam Curry: I just love it when
the truth comes out. It always
wants to come out. Influence
paddlers. Those ladies
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they used
to the the I loved over time
horn or whatever that is the
Google came over to a hockey
game.
Adam Curry: I love it. And with
that, I'd like to thank you for
your courage in the morning to
you the man who put two C's in
the obesogenic environment
ladies and gentlemen say hello
to my friend on the other end
the one and only Mr. John
John C Dvorak: Murray you Mr.
and Karina morning O'Shaughnessy
boots on the ground feeding the
air subs into one of the games
nights up there and in
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls. Trolls hands go look at
you go. They're so tiny. It's
hard to count them all. I count
2037 Trolls today in the troll
room? How was that? Is that
That's 400
John C Dvorak: low and
Adam Curry: you say that but
this just get ready to the it's
the new normal. Just just I
mean, how
John C Dvorak: is the time that
we do the count? I think people
do slowly move away.
Adam Curry: They move away on to
what bigger and better things
John C Dvorak: to what he
breakfast,
Adam Curry: please. Oh like a
drive. Go
John C Dvorak: to the store. do
some shopping. It's Christmas
shopping season. Everyone's out
shopping. It is traffic is
jammed up. People are driving
around like maniacs.
Adam Curry: You'd think there
was shopping there shopping.
Economy is great. There's
nothing wrong. There's nothing
going on. But people must be
must be loading up their credit
cards. How can it be anything
else who has money, the prices
are too high. The rents too
high. It's impossible. It's
impossible. Anyway, we do love
our trolls. This is a great
opportunity for you to let it
all hang out. Just join us live
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that. So we have lots of live
shows. Darren O'Neil does the
show. Did you listen to Darren
show this morning? No, I
John C Dvorak: missed it today.
How was it that it was a
terrible as usual? Yeah,
Adam Curry: it was just so bad.
He didn't play any Taylor Swift.
So yeah, he's got all these
drops of you saying Darren
O'Neal sucks. He's got he's got
all those
John C Dvorak: using those.
Yeah, once you drop, Jared.
Jared Oh, Neil is the best. Oh,
he
Adam Curry: did play Taylor
Swift. Apparently,
John C Dvorak: he stinks.
Adam Curry: So yeah, go to troll
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Or if you're using one of those
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John C Dvorak: But people don't
really why what was their what's
their rationale for this
dangerous
Adam Curry: speech? I don't know
them. They don't really give
reasons they. But there's, you
know, there's a whole system.
Because if you have most podcast
hosting companies, you can
automatically when you post it
or you know, even when you start
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that they can say yeah, they
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horrible. So that
John C Dvorak: I'll tell you
Sunday is not horrible. The new
no agenda art works. Site is
unbelievable.
Adam Curry: Is it up? Yep. And
what? You're a little early. I'm
not quite done with the
promotion yet.
John C Dvorak: No, sorry. Okay.
I'm just
Adam Curry: you're excited. I
understand.
John C Dvorak: I'm jacked up.
Adam Curry: I understand. Me
too. So besides the fact that
when we post the show any show
you'll be notified within 90
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You know on some of these legacy
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What? What? You went, huh? Oh,
John C Dvorak: I Yeah, no, I was
looking at a piece and it looked
at the artist. Oh, yeah. You're
not even listening to me. Okay.
I'm sorry. No, I'm listening.
You don't have I'm sorry that
I'm so close to the mic that I I
actually went and got your
attention.
Adam Curry: Oh, wake up. Value
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Yes. Because it's no different
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we've been pining for a long
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mean, it's gonna be fantastic
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well that's a plus. Yeah, well,
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Our artists or artists have been
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So we want to thank networks for
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titled that one buying quiet.
And this was really the best one
that there was, I think we
looked at a couple of pieces.
This is the AI winter is coming.
As he proclaimed the AI Winter
is on the way. We had other
pieces. I'm going now to no
agenda art generator.com This is
it's taken a long time to load,
John. This is the brand new,
revamped after it was down
crashed and destroyed for
several weeks. It's still not
loading for me
John C Dvorak: was because I
probably might want you to get
out one other users
Adam Curry: me one person at a
time.
John C Dvorak: One person at a
time? Well, he says no, it's
still working out some bugs. And
then he's got some of the it's
not finished. But it's just the
new service.
Adam Curry: Yes, Sir Paul
couture, who has been
maintaining this thing for over
a decade? You know, we've had
some horrible hardware crash.
What I'm thinking right now is
that probably everyone went to
our agenda are generated. As I
said
John C Dvorak: it Yeah.
mentioned it like I got flooded.
Yeah. So Yeah, makes sense. So
it's
Adam Curry: still not loading
for me. So I can't really talk
about any of the art recamft You
have to walk me through it was
there until it loads for me. But
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
those pieces. Shoot,
Adam Curry: is I got a gateway
timeout.
John C Dvorak: Oh, crap. Well,
he doesn't have those pieces up
from last show. Well,
Adam Curry: then we could just
say everything sucked. But this
one from networks? No, they
John C Dvorak: were all there
were some good pieces. I thought
all the pieces were usable. But
networks I thought was the best
because it just had everything
we wanted. And it was aI
obviously, no, it was totally AI
everything. You know, we were
kind of resigned, even though I
know you were going to reject
all AI forever.
Adam Curry: It's not possible.
It's not possible. And no,
John C Dvorak: that's the point.
It's not possible. It's become a
pretty good utility. It's
futile.
Adam Curry: It's become a pretty
good tool for artists who know
how to use and that's really
agree at the end of the day, and
I set it on purpose. AI will
only benefit the no agenda show
it will do Nothing for humanity.
It'll do nothing for business.
It'll do nothing for your spam.
It'll only benefit the no agenda
artists. That's the whole point.
And I'm happy that there's $100
billion industry just working
for us. Good to know.
John C Dvorak: So I'm still
trying I ended up with a gateway
timeout while looking at these
artworks. She was just you were
just saying can we crashed it?
Adam Curry: Well, the trolls are
saying, Oh, whoops. Yeah, I'm
guilty of that. Yeah, we crashed
it. I'm
John C Dvorak: okay. We crashed
it was my fault for saying
anything. I wasn't thinking
clearly. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I know what probably
happened because he's still
copying over, like 300 gigabytes
of artwork. And that's probably
taxing the system. So while we
keep reloading that trolls
please stop. Why don't we go to
the final T of the trifecta
which is treasure and thank our
executive and Associate
Executive Producers shortlist
today, but we are very happy to
to acknowledge our first
executive producer Mike rotch my
crotch I sat down my
John C Dvorak: garage by the way
we were dos the same fast guy
getting a PhD is late because he
this was blogging coming.
Adam Curry: I just loved it. His
name is Mike rotch I mean
really?
John C Dvorak: Do it is on the
bank check. It's in my garage is
Mike right Wow. So we're looking
at Jay and I are looking at Holy
mackerel. I said his parents
must have been a couple of
characters Ronnie Hey, I
Adam Curry: know my last name is
Rod let's call him Mike Dr sir
my crotch you can
John C Dvorak: just imagine what
the hunt family
Adam Curry: powder springs
Georgia and he comes in with two
checks one boobs eight oh dot
eight five and then a 211 and he
says hey and a folder here which
means he goes back to daily
source code days. Thank you.
Thank you brother. Don't
castigate me for operating
within the outlined late rules
211 goes towards double Richards
on the big boobs of eight oh dot
eight five now to be known as
double Doctor sir my crotch
Baron bowl of the lifestyle MD
medical doctor at MD media
deconstruction haha he might
actually be a doctor. Could be
that's even funnier. My crotch
OBGYN why nice requesting Eiffel
Towers with high fives and
twerking Russians for backroom
festivities of the Round Table
you're guessing
John C Dvorak: I'm guessing is a
urologist with that name.
Adam Curry: If we love guys like
that, Mike you got it you shall
be you shouldn't be the Baron
bowl of the lifestyle and
John C Dvorak: you know a lot of
guys and I would do this. You
take the no agenda diploma which
looks exactly like a classic
diploma because it's because it
is and is modeled after some
dynamite ones that would you
know, based on took a while to
fine tune it. And you'd put it
up there on the wall with the
other diplomas and let people
see what what happens. That's
what I do.
Adam Curry: I think lots of good
things will come your way. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: people Oh, in the
morning. Yes, indeed. Sir.
Spooky is up next. Unless up
December. That's all we had to
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Adam Curry: from Logan five that
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Can
John C Dvorak: you get right?
Can
Adam Curry: you write that down?
You write that down. And I'll
continue with chap. Williams,
who, from what I can see your
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John C Dvorak: objects they
don't even say two of them came
in
Adam Curry: and he did not have
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1618 1.618.
John C Dvorak: So everyone
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Adam Curry: If everyone did,
yes.
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day if
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We're done for the rest of the
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah. David
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333. This is for the best
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Adam Curry: Now. That sounds
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There you go. And I'll
John C Dvorak: continue to the
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Unknown: in the morning. This is
the
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No agenda meto here we are. I am
not a douchebag My name is Dave
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Sir Daniel. I don't know. I'm
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Thank you for your courage.
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Adam Curry: I think there's
there should be some kind of a
special group of people who
you've blocked. Now there should
be a block club. Yes. The JCD no
agenda block club. I think if
someone should start that now
and you have to prove
John C Dvorak: let me say this.
Let me say this. Let me say
this.
Adam Curry: Why don't you say
something?
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna say
this. This is bullcrap. Most of
the people that think they've
been blocked or not blocked,
it's the
Adam Curry: block ease There you
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blocking the no agenda block
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block ease. What do you mean
they're blocked? The blog
they're
John C Dvorak: not there. The
number of people that are
blocked are very, you know, half
of these people they claim
they're blocked they're not
blocked,
Adam Curry: then what are they
talking about?
John C Dvorak: I have no idea I
know I know your spam if you
Adam Curry: say if you put the
word ass even douchebag may get
kicked back here's your filters
there are really tight. This
tighten and Mike Rochus your
filters are so sure that you're
so tight. Anyway, I would like
to know I think y'all should
start a club hashtag the block
ease on no agenda social hashtag
the block E's and post a
screenshot with the error
message that shows that you are
blocked it doesn't count if you
use it lewd or lascivious
language. And now for the meetup
report from Brooklyn. I expected
no less but a full on dynamite
in your face report. Now we're
getting people from all over the
globe coming to New York City.
This issue will destroy New York
City. This is Gitmo nation's
favorite shape systems. You
correct the record passing the
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here. Trains good. Cleans bad.
Unknown: This is so boring for
the web five in the morning.
Mica rock and roll from the
Brooklyn meetups great time.
Everyone's super chill. In New
York. We need more weirdos
destroy New York City's 17 year
anniversary cut the beat up
shortly. We never had a fight.
It was
David from Brooklyn in the
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experiment they weren't the only
dudes here. Hi, this is Tanya
I'm trapped in a 10 to the 13
strange men. I now know how it
feels to get banned from the
city we knew
without to lose.
Adam Curry: Thank you, Brooklyn.
Brooklyn does not disappoint.
Love that. Meetup is taking
place today. The X s the SXM
salt and soda water meetup that
is underway now. Oh yes. St.
Martin is probably underway now
a tonne of Fat Tony Smokehouse
Sen report. People want to know
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you can still make it on
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It's so efficient for people to
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Unknown: you go hang out with
Tyson day you won't be triggered
everybody feels the same it's
like a body
Adam Curry: like a pot. I'm
gonna have to do my ISOs first
I'm over I sewed over it Yeah
Have I got too many too many got
I'm over I so I'm over it hit it
alright cute Yes. Cute is
exactly the right term.
John C Dvorak: Amaze estar ass
Adam Curry: okay right right yes
loved it. Hmm we'll sell so deja
vu I kind of like that one. And
I hate this I have that I think
the best is a feel show deja vu.
We like that one. Deja vu. Deja
vu?
John C Dvorak: Because it is
kind of different. Mine are more
direct. Okay. I mean they're
designed to actually be used.
Adam Curry: Oh please.
John C Dvorak: I saw the start
with good podcast
Unknown: is so good. As
Adam Curry: you say podcast is
so good. Yeah. That again,
little muddy is too bad with his
little money podcast is so good.
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's good
laughs and giggles and everyone
laughs and everyone giggles
Adam Curry: Okay, that's a good
one. I like that one. Yes, I
like it
John C Dvorak: and then the one
that's the obvious one is the is
the good job. Wow, good job.
Adam Curry: We have a winner. We
have a winner we have a winner.
I hope you don't mind but I
think I have the story today
John C Dvorak: we're going to
have a good eat have a good
story yeah
Adam Curry: good news. So I
think I have one I think I have
a good well we can do a
John C Dvorak: good news stories
showdown. I don't know if you're
gonna beat mine because mine is
a tear jerker.
Adam Curry: News everyone all
right, we'll start with mine. We
go to Nashville.
Unknown: This is what's left of
the room where Sydney Moore was
laying on top of her one year
old shielding him from the
tornado. As her four month old
baby got sucked away, and her
mobile home, demolished,
towering over the rubble of her
mobile home and shadowing her
crushed car. Sydney's kids play
pin is wrapped around a tree, a
jarring reminder of how easily
the tornado tossed their four
month old baby to the wind. The
roof came
off first, the tip of the
tornado came down and picked up
the bassinet with my baby Lord
in it. And he was the first
thing to go up
in his attempt to keep the
bassinet inside her boyfriend
and father of her children was
sucked up with it. Mom same time
in the back bedroom, needs to
move her body on top of their
one year old son shielding him.
Literally
the moment I jumped on him. The
walls collapsed. I was being
really crushed. Like I couldn't
breathe.
The couple frantically searched
through the rubble in the
pouring rain for the infant. I
thought he was dead. Pretty sure
he was dead and we weren't gonna
be able find him. Then
a miracle they found baby Lord
alive with just a cut on his
face.
And it looks like a little tree
cradle. It was just laying
there.
The entire family survived. Now
as she walks back down to where
her home used to be pulling it
off Sydney's recalling how she
thought this would never happen
to her family. Everything could
be taken like that. The kids
that she risked her life to save
sleeping peacefully tonight.
Like
those those kids are what saved
me. They saved me from
everything. And I don't know
what I would have done without
them. Okay,
Adam Curry: I think when you
have a story of a baby getting
sucked up by a tornado. Yeah,
the dad getting sucked up by the
tornado. What
John C Dvorak: happened to him
by the way he end up in a tree
we didn't have hurt we knew know
the baby did.
Adam Curry: The kid's name is
Lord. I mean, this has good news
written all over and it was one
minute and 30 seconds.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I
like to time mines too long. But
mine is more of a tree. It also
it not only has good news
written all over it, it has
books written all over it. It
wouldn't have said that baby
with the Lord in there. That was
the that was the me checkmark,
folks.
Unknown: When do we want it? Now
please get in in the crevices of
a canyon county Ridge, a missing
woman's life was left up to
Eddie. Now we're doing this and
chase. It's crazy. We're
partners and hunters.
We don't come out here in the
winter. There's no reason for us
to asides to look. And they
couldn't believe what there's a
car down here or who right down
in the little crevice aid found
in the corner in the tumbleweeds
and we climbed down a little
investigation in the car and
that's when we found pennies
information. I put pennies named
Penny say Clark in on Facebook,
and that's when it popped up. A
72 year old woman having no
recent contact with her family
Canyon County Sheriff Karen
Donohue had already been looking
for pen
no one would have looked here.
Really there's just there's been
no reason to
look here. No reason to be there
at all. So we
were I mean out under those
clouds. And we decided to just
make a random turn and get out
come back out this way. And this
is where we ended up
Eddie and chase called 911
explaining the car, the crash
the scene
and then one of the officers
looks past the car with a
binoculars and sees part of her
and sees her moving her
extremities you know me and
chase her in the truck filling
out reports and one of the cops
yelled Penny Good
Lord, not only have we found
her, she's still alive. With
help
from Idaho mountain search and
rescue. They tracked penny off
the ridge and flew her to a
nearby hospital.
No broken bones. You know, she
was just cold, hungry and tired.
And I can't I can't say enough
what a miracle that is. You
know,
in my experience, this is a less
than 1% chance of surviving this
God had a different plan.
Multiple agencies coordinated
the rescue. But the highest
ranking law enforcement officer
in the county knows where to
direct praise. They're the true
heroes here. They really are.
They're the ones that saved this
woman's life but Eddie and chase
and just they don't need the
credit. I don't know kind of
lost for words.
They already got the payment of
a lifetime
and pennies daughter arrived on
scene when Penny got down to the
ambulance. She said I never
thought listening to my mom
snore in a hospital bed would be
the best Christmas present you
know to receive and I hope your
Christmas is just as as
specialists this it really hit
home.
Adam Curry: Alright you get a
point for the Christmas message.
The length is too long is
disqualified. I disqualified
disqualifies. I have to like
John C Dvorak: I it was 240 I
couldn't Cut in a I tried to get
under two it was it was long but
it had it flowed so well. With
this last penny the doofus is
yes,
Adam Curry: this is a hoax that
just happen to be out there. Oh,
Unknown: they're high horses.
Oh,
Adam Curry: they're hiking with
a helicopter. Sure. Yeah, that's
what I do. Oh, let's hop on the
chopper. It's a just 72 What
you're not dead at 72 Like, oh,
John C Dvorak: you can we will
just call it a draw. Oh, no. The
wind from
Unknown: from JCD happy vibes
for you and me and we all feel
better. Now he's done his bit.
To back to reality. That's
turning to shit. Alright,
Adam Curry: we'll call it no
winner. No winner, although I
think getting sucked up by a
tornado, your kids name and if
they had thrown a Christmas vibe
in there, like just in time for
Christmas, baby Lord is safe.
That would have been a winner. I
mean, there's just there's no
two ways about it.
John C Dvorak: I reserve
judgment on the sucked up by a
tornado story. Do you? Do you
have a husband too? I guess.
There you go. We didn't
Adam Curry: we never heard from
him again.
John C Dvorak: He's still in a
visit. If you guys if
Adam Curry: he would happen
there. Let's see. We probably
should.
John C Dvorak: By the way, you
know people who've ever been
used in a tornado where they've
been actually outside. Basic.
They've all reported kind of the
same thing. You are head to toe
covered with splinters. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it could be Yeah.
Well, baby Lord only had a
scratch some
John C Dvorak: alias scratches.
Another thing that bothers me.
Adam Curry: I have two AI clips
if you want we could end with or
do you have something that you'd
like to end with? No,
John C Dvorak: I guess this
stuff can be moved. I don't have
anything that's critical. If AI
is great. We haven't talked
about AI for weeks.
Adam Curry: Chow was missing my
AI stories. Well, this was on
CNN, it was rather peculiar.
Because they're anti AI.
John C Dvorak: I don't really
well, they should be with
channel one.ai. coming down the
pike. Maybe
Adam Curry: that's why they did
this particular story. AI
Unknown: is the life work of
Georgia Tech professor and
researcher, Matthew Gambale.
It's not ready for deployment.
It's not a product yet.
So do you think it should be
used by police departments?
Certainly not. A report by
Georgetown Law estimates that as
of 2016, one in two American
adults is in a law enforcement
face recognition network. And it
can happen without your consent
or knowledge. This
technology is not accurate for
the way it's being used. When
you ask a question. Like, is
this person's face match up with
a fugitive? You can have a 99.7%
accuracy rate. It's really good.
Sounds really good. But what if
you ask that same question 300
million times you deploy these
things at scale at a population
level, you're going to get a
tremendous number of false
positives.
Depending on your race that
accuracy drops even more at
2019. US government study of 200
facial recognition algorithms
found some of them up to 100
times more likely to miss
identify people of color
compared to white people
gambling. To the test, we will
see what happens. Wait using
pictures of CNN journalists,
these Georgia Tech researchers
he created a virtual lineup and
told the AI to identify my face
get
works about some of the time
though it says no face. Like
here, just thought that you were
Victor Blackwell.
I thought that I was Victor
Blackwell. Yes. Victor Blackwell
is a black man. Yes.
What does that say that says
that these algorithms are not
ready for primetime.
And building the algorithm. You
can teach the AI to be
racist. Yes, you can absolutely
teach the algorithms to be
racist, the algorithm doesn't
care. The algorithm just wants
to do a good job at the task
you've given it. And in this
case, you're telling it that if
you're black, you're more likely
to have committed the crimes.
That's the data that you
Adam Curry: fit in. That's the
part that I liked about the
store. What bull crap versus
bull crap. There's like, you can
teach the AI to be racist. Oh,
yeah. So it showed a black man
because he's more likely to have
committed the crime. I mean, I'm
anti AI, but even I'm not buying
that bullcrap.
John C Dvorak: No, this is bad.
That was a bad report.
Adam Curry: It was a great
report. You're talking about
shows that this is all book.
Okay. All right. All right. Do
you have anything better?
John C Dvorak: I can tell you
this. I mean, I went through
these facial recognition systems
years ago. 12 years ago. It's
not even AI. They weren't great
and had nothing to do with AI.
No, they don't
Adam Curry: I got someone
telling me AI can't do math
because it's a large language
model. Well, dude, someone needs
to work on the marketing because
these things are being sold as
the next best thing since sliced
bread. And they're not AI
winters come in. It's come in,
just
John C Dvorak: stick to your
thesis as good AI
Adam Curry: Winter is Coming
billions of dollars. It's next
up. We all know what it's going
to be. Quantum Computing.
John C Dvorak: It happened
before quantum computing is a
dead end. Yeah, well,
Adam Curry: they need something
to prop up the stock market.
Coming up next. I know AGENDA
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airline pilot guide. They
haven't heard from him in a
while.
John C Dvorak: That's good.
That's a good show.
Adam Curry: That was a very good
show. It's one of the better
aviation podcasts out there and
you get your troll room.io You
can listen in use the monitor
podcast app as well. I have a
Christmas end of show mix for
you. You'll love it. We have
John C Dvorak: Leon the indie
show mix, which you played
earlier is dynamite.
Adam Curry: We have Sir Chris
Wilson and Maddie j and this
will get you in the mood for
Christmas. I guarantee you.
Coming to you from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country in FEMA
Region number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry. And
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where it's
raining. It's about time I'm
John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: We return on
Thursday, which will be the 21st
countdown to Christmas. We'll be
working on Christmas Eve as
well. We love it. It's what we
do time talent treasure remember
us at the vortech.org/na until
Thursday, everybody adios mofos
who we who we end such
Unknown: a debate about the
gender of Santa Claus has now
broke out on Facebook after and
mother in England because she
had been shamed for not using a
gender neutral name for Santa
Claus. And the mother claimed in
the viral post that she had been
attacked for using the name
Father Christmas to describe the
bearded character.
This caused everybody in the
Facebook group to completely
erupt and explode on her. How
dare you refer to Santa Claus as
Father Christmas? Because they
think a big fat man with a long
white curly beard might be a
chick. They might want to date
that chick
stole my childhood Christmas
Christmas Christmas person
Christmas I thought they're
suggesting but he's a bloke and
what are we gonna do with Mother
Nature? Father
Adam Curry: Time it needs work I
have to go
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Comes now the big hand.
Christmas 1941. The weeks after
Pearl Harbor, Franklin Delano
Roosevelt hosted at Churchill in
this White House. Together they
plan the most travel year of
yours. Near the assassination
and ride of war and chaos. Still
today in our own time, our own
life. So this Christmas, let's
spread low poison. The pandemic
has taken so much from us. Loss
hope, love, peace and joy. No
face at all. I hope this
Christmas season marks a fresh
start our nation affected our
politics has set us against one
another. We see each other as
enemies not as neighbors as
Democrats or Republicans not as
fellow Americans. So angry. So
mean so partisan, great pain,
federal owners all across the
country for a million lives lost
in America alone. Whether
Christian, Jewish, Hindu,
Muslim, Buddhist, that's a
million empty chair. You know, I
believe Christmas is a season of
breaking hearts and homes all
across the country. Mr. Stone
Mr. Stone Mr. Stone
Anything that remotely resembles
crack cocaine 30 days without
sleeping
Adam Curry: too much.
Unknown: Chance dodge Hannah is
as low trust China. China is as
home. China, Walker Christmas,
the United States, the United
States, Chinese as Oh, China was
the United States,
the United States, the United
States, the United States, the
United States.
Why would I be talking about
Winnie the Pooh so much Winnie
the Pooh is constantly being
banned in China. And that's
because the leader Xi Jinping is
very sensitive and he doesn't
like the fact that people
compare him to Winnie the Pooh,
China is
China versus the United States.
The United States. Chinese as
Oh, China, why is the United
States
The United States, the United
States, the United States, the
United States.
China is as Oh China us as home.
Adam Curry: Adios MoPhO
Unknown: boruch.org/in A Wow,
good job.