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October 12th, 2023 • 2h 50m

1598: Guardrails

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John C Dvorak: I buy a bar a month.
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Unknown: Adam curry, John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: October 12 2023 This Year Award winning give a nation
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media assassination episode 1598.
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Unknown: This is no agenda,
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Adam Curry: penetrating the fog of war and broadcasting live
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from the heart of the country near FEMA Region number six in
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the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where today's
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theme is babies. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Kill. My goodness, we're just going back in time.
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Everything to read rerun. It's a total rerun. I might as well I
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got the clips, I might as well run them. They're all pretty
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short. Let's just go right for it.
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John C Dvorak: Well, before you do that, I have a three clip set
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disparate disparate clips that I'd like to run first. Oh, no,
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no, dog. No,
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Adam Curry: Phoebe says. Daddy slipped these clips. Phoebe. All
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right.
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John C Dvorak: Dose got a great bark.
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Adam Curry: I should run it through the through the next
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time she does that. I'll run it through the sound effects. Well,
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you should be recording
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John C Dvorak: it up. There's nothing a dog finds more
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annoying than playing dog barks back to them.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. I'm sure this will drive the dog crazy.
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All right. Well, well, you I mean, this is what we call
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John C Dvorak: this is just theory. This reason is because
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this is involving Chris Cuomo. It's what we call an audible.
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And here we go. This is distarch. With this clip, which
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is a Hannity show. He brings it some Trumps to John, and it
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begins with this. Joining us now. former national security
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adviser Robert O'Brien is with us. When Bibi Netanyahu says
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that they will strike with a force that will be remembered
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for generations. I've known Prime Minister Netanyahu now for
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almost three decades. I'm pretty much 100% certain he means what
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he says. He says the Middle East will be reconfigured as a result
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of this, you know, evil attack on on their homeland. I believe
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he means it.
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Unknown: What are your thoughts? Well, I know Bibi will also shot
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and I think he means what he says here and like he's got no
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choice. I mean, if anyone who wants to know that whether evil
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exists in the world, just need to look at the top of your
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monologue and hear about the babies being killed. I mean,
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what kind of person goes house to house and beheads babies and
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these aren't civilians who were killed collaterally in a in a
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military attack. These were civilians who are wanted they
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slaughtered? This isn't war This is barbarism?
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Adam Curry: I think that's the new thing to be able to say now
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if you're on television, it's like I know BB well.
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John C Dvorak: I know BP Well. I
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Adam Curry: know BB. I know. Yeah, baby. You met baby.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, baby new horse with the actress. Okay.
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All right. Next up and you're desperate Clint. Now we go to
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Cuomo calling out Hamas.
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Unknown: Nobody wants to see pictures of mutilated children.
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I promise you that
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Adam Curry: well, that we actually would like to see it
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just to know that it's real. Yeah, because it's only the news
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guys
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John C Dvorak: real pictures, of course, not photoshopped ones.
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But
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Unknown: however, the reality should not be shied away,
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because it's what's driving the understanding of this situation.
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People in America especially have a misguided connection
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between the plight of Palestinians, which is real, the
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suffering there, which is real and going on right now. People
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are dying in Gaza because of Israel's necessary retaliation.
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I'm sure kids are involved there too. In essence, you're involved
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there too. You should be seeing the pictures to drive the
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intensity of the purpose here. And we have to remember that our
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urgency is on those who were captured, not hostages, not
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hostages. hostages are people who are taken for security. And
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they are negotiated. These people were captured. They're
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being mutilated. They're being brutalized in ways that very few
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people have seen in this region in a long, long time. And
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remember, it is on Hamas, to counteract what I just said, it
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is on Hamas to come forward and say, No, we're holding them
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humanely, because we want protection against what Israel
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is doing because we want to negotiate because we want to be
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taken seriously. This is on Hamas, Hamas loves to talk
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they're putting out videos all over the internet of complete
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barbarism and savagery. They have said Not one word about
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treating these people as human beings. And they have given us
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all the evidence and understanding that they are
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treating them worse than dogs.
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Adam Curry: Okay, yes, let's spin people up to school.
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John C Dvorak: You know, it took me all of five minutes to find
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out that Hamas had said plenty I guess He didn't have the time to
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do it because he's flying over there wants to hang out.
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Adam Curry: He's played this year in the region cromoz in the
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region. Yes, he
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John C Dvorak: went there because it's in the region
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thing.
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Adam Curry: It's called in the region. Yeah, he's
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John C Dvorak: in the region. He is in Israel, but it's Northern
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Israel, it
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Adam Curry: seems to be in the region.
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John C Dvorak: So region is the region. So here's Hamas
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Palestinian denials,
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Unknown: because I'm brigades has broadcast a video that shows
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the release of three captives that the video shows an Israeli
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woman and two children near the holiday kibbutz near Gaza. They
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were said to have been released shortly after being captured by
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Hamas on Saturday. Hamas sources say that video refutes what they
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called false Israeli allegations that Hamas fighters killed women
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and children are the video follows an earlier statements by
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the group that said, Some Western media outlets continue
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to spread Zionist slander and lies about our Palestinian
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people and their resistance, which falsely and slanderously
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promoted allegations that members of the Palestinian
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resistance, beheaded children and assaulted women without any
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evidence to support their lives and claims Hamas strongly
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condemns the baseless allegations
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Adam Curry: and that's on Al Jazeera so that's that's more
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more official than it would be on on x which is probably all
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Cuomo is looking at. We want everybody to
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John C Dvorak: know what Cohen was looking at took me five
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minutes to find that clip. And this is an Hamas had made these
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statements earlier way before he came off and you act in the act.
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But this is the problem you have is that our media is just not
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good. No, and if you're right, yes, you're right. And if you
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listen to the I mean, I didn't clip it because I got too many
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clips already and this is cut you can
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Adam Curry: well let me let me jump into into some beheaded
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baby clips.
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John C Dvorak: I want to mention one thing to listen to judge
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Jeanine and these others on the five judge Jeanine is back to
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her bomb them bomb them bomb them again, don't really it's
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it's fascinating. I didn't clip it. I maybe I'll clip it for
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Sunday, but she's just off the rails.
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Adam Curry: And but but is she about bombing? Because back in
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the day, that was
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John C Dvorak: the Qaeda. Yes,
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Unknown: bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again.
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John C Dvorak: Now, she made the statement. And again, like I
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said, I got too many clips already. But I'll tell you what
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she said. She said they're coming here.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Okay. Let me that's you're moving too
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fast. First, we got to know that the bait the beheaded baby
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story. Which has apparently already been debunked by the
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journalist who wrote about it who said I didn't really write
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about I want to clarify, I did not tweet, which is by the way,
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what journalism are we performing here?
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Unknown: Look at a journalism is this I did not
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Adam Curry: tweet 40 babies had been beheaded. I tweeted that
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form media had been told women and children had been
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decapitated. But we had not been shown bodies, which was my
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response to reports which had gone viral about the 40 babies.
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Also this number 40 is interesting. I realized the way
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my talk was, I don't know. 40 days. 40 Nights. It's all Oh,
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John C Dvorak: Arabian Nights. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Which is, I realized, I realized the way
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my tweet was written was too short to explain the full
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context. So I deleted it. All right now, but this this went
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quite viral. Of course. I mean, we've seen this end of show make
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sure even here. Some historical examples we
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John C Dvorak: have one of the Indus show mixes is dynamite. We
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had the
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Adam Curry: babies on Bay Bay and nets we had the babies and
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incubators that they threw on the floor. And this is just a
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new twist. This is This is Nicole Zedeck. From by the way,
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John C Dvorak: the babies I'm paying this I should go we
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should mention this because I've never mentioned the show before
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but when you study world history, there's this was the
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same baby stories that were told during the during the Vikings
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invasions of northern Europe. It was the day we're told that the
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Vikings came in and grabbed the babies and then threw them in
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the air and then caught them with their
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Adam Curry: horns their horns, their horns on their on their
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John C Dvorak: doors, but the spears they spear them. The
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babies the babies flying through the air. So this is not a new
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No,
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Adam Curry: it's late. It's a true and tried tactic which
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works incredibly well. So here's the same Nicole Zedek who's who
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tweeted X she slashed. Soldiers told me they believe 40 Babies
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slashed children were killed. The exact death toll is still
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unknown as the military continues to go house to house
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and find more Israeli casualties. I 24 News. So Here's
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her report,
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Unknown: David, it's hard to even explain exactly just the
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mass casualties that happened right here. In fact, the Israeli
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Miller Jury says they still don't have a clear number. But
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I'm talking to some of the soldiers and they say what
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they've witnessed as they've been walking through these
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different houses, these different communities, babies,
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their heads caught off. That's what they said, done down,
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families completely gunned down in their beds. You can see some
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of these soldiers right now comforting each other. Many of
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them reserves who jumped into action, leaving their own
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families behind as well. Not knowing the sheer horror that
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they were about to come to. They say they've never experienced
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anything like this. This is nothing that anyone could have
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even imagined. When you're walking through here, baby cribs
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thrown to the side.
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Adam Curry: There you go. So she actually didn't say that she had
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seen it herself. It's what soldiers told her. But that was
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enough. That was enough. And it doesn't matter what Nicole's ex
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says. Because our President saw evidence proof he saw it with
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his own eyes
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Unknown: just came to basically I really mean it from the bottom
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of my heart. I give him my word as a Biden. Thank you. There you
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go.
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Thank you for the intensity of your support. It matters. It
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matters in Americans see what's happening. I have been doing
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this a long time. I never really thought that I would see
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confirmed pictures of terrorist behavior
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Adam Curry: children. So we saw it with his own eyes confirmed.
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It's confirmed people. And then he he goes into his tip when he
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lies. He always goes into this.
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Unknown: I never saw it ever. Anyway.
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Adam Curry: Anyway, anyway, anyway, not to get the actual
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report that you will probably, uh, maybe maybe the five we'll
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talk about it. But the White House jumped into into immediate
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crisis mode, because Oh, no, no, no, he didn't quite mean that.
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Unknown: Now. We have some latest updates coming in from
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the US a White House spokesperson has given an
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official clarification, as reported by US media, that
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neither President Joe Biden nor the White House Administration
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has seen any pictures or verified any reports of children
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beheaded by Hamas. Earlier during a roundtable with leaders
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from the Jewish community. Biden had mentioned seeing the
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confirmed pictures of militants beheading children. The official
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clarified though, that the President's remarks were quote,
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unquote, referring to public comments from media outlets and
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Israeli officials.
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Adam Curry: Okay. All right, please. He's an old, old man, he
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senile, so don't you get it? And at this point, I think the
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international press is like, yeah, we get it. Okay. Oh, you
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made a mistake. Very, very, very, very bad.
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John C Dvorak: Mistake. I saw it with my own eyes firmed
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confirmed, confirmed.
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Adam Curry: So this now. And let me just as predicted, we got
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some emails, and I just want to reiterate that we're not I mean,
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we don't really care one way or the other, you know, about this
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particular stuff. You know, it's it's fun to fun to debunk it and
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take a you know, a helicopter view. But this is not about who
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did what to whom, what we're trained to do is to look at how
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everybody is being spun up and programmed against each other.
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In fact, arguing against each other is part of the point.
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Distraction, which is beautiful, because we don't hear about
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Hunter don't hear about him anymore. No hunters out of the
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news. Look at the Gaza border, not your border. We got a war
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president now as good for elections. You never want to
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change a winning team. You know, we've been spun up to believe
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that tomorrow October the 13th attacks in America attacks in
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America. It's gonna happen everywhere. This is where Judge
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Jeanine gets it. She's probably on the same hill country, Lady
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text, text tree that I've been seeing. But really it's all
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recall. Then even just saying 911 That it doesn't matter who
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you are even. Even the crackpot in the buzzkill have oh, we get
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you know, you get images, you know where you were at that
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moment? 911 911 911 This is the Israel's 911 And so that means a
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plan. What what?
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John C Dvorak: Why is it January 6 Worse than 911
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Adam Curry: It was funny the last time and not
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John C Dvorak: just my material once in a while. You just
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Adam Curry: spiking the ball because it was genius. So it's
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so the plan unfolds and in there and reminder. After 911 on 911
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Osama bin Laden Osama bin Laden Osama bin Laden is Osama bin
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Laden. Afghanistan Of course. I mean no Iraq Iraq aluminum
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tubes, yellowcake The New York Times lied. The government lie
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to get everyone agrees, I think Now that we were lied to, to get
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us into, of into Iraq, which is not where Osama came from, but
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of course, it was a genius liquidity event of some $20
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trillion, I think,
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John C Dvorak: over 20 plus years lot. Yeah, 20 trillion.
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But
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Adam Curry: I think if you look it up, it may even be more than
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20 trillion. I know. Okay, I'll consult the book of knowledge
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while we listen to the Israeli ambassador to the UK, because
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it's not just 911 Oh, no,
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Unknown: this is our obligation, our first obligation to fight
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back and to make sure Hamas will never have the ability to act
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against Israelis,
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Ambassador to totally How are you at responding to the fact
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that this is really creating a whole host of tensions around
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the world that have become sort of ethnically focused on both
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sides? It really has erupted debates and protests and anger
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on both sides. How would you like to angle the conversation
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to be able to foster something more productive?
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I think that this is time to fight and to descend the people
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of Israel. And I think whoever saw the fact that 1000 Israelis
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were killed in cold blood cannot speak now about both sides.
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There is one side here, who's the side that wants freedom,
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democracy, cares about human rights, cares about people's
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life, which is the Israeli side, and there is the other side,
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this is good versus evil, we need to fight it. It's a terror
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organization recognized in the US and in the UK. And you know,
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many people are comparing to 911. And I heard many people
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that are making the equivalent numbers with the proportion when
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you think about Israel as a tiny country, just 9 million people
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to actually 10 times of 911. This is the time to support
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Israel, the international community should understand.
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Adam Curry: It's 10 times 911. And then this comparison of
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capita no but that came out right away Sir Brian of London,
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he immediately it was put into his head and I'm not disputing
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that this isn't you know that this is the same vibe because
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yeah, in in Israel, everybody knows everybody. They're all
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related. They as by their own admission, but the 911 meme,
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that's a good one. We got to play that up. Let's bring in
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James Stavridis. Admiral Joining
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John C Dvorak: us now with more is former Supreme Allied
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Commander of NATO
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Adam Curry: Supreme Allied Commander, I'm sorry, Admiral,
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James got his honorifics, right?
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John C Dvorak: Staff Rita's know where to start here. Admiral. It
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take hostages, it's the
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Adam Curry: same. It's exactly the same tone as 911. They have
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the the news media, which flips right into it, no problem. And
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it's it's normal, because they've been told 10 times worse
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than 911. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: you bring them back to Gaza. And you put them
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in civilian areas, and you surround yourself with
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civilians, and then you threaten Israelis. If there's any, any
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bombing where civilians are injured, you start executing
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hostages, it's what is that you know who's supposed to do when
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you hear something like that?
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Unknown: Well, you start by calling all of this what it is,
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which is terrorism. These are acts of terror. This is akin to
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the 911 attack. And just a lot of people hear some of these
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numbers. You know, there have been hundreds of Israelis killed
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and there are 150 hostages. To put that in context. Joe, for an
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American, you have to do the math of the population adjust.
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Here we go. If you have the math, for example, 1000 Israelis
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killed, I think it would be well north of that. Ultimately,
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that's like 35,000 Americans killed on an equivalent 911 day.
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And by the way on 911. There weren't hostages. So let's say
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there are 100 hostages that would be 911 in the United
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States with 3500 hostages. So you're right.
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John C Dvorak: That someone yesterday said it was like
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Nagasaki, I think it was Jonathan Greenblatt on another
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network. It wasn't like 911 It was almost like if you do the
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math,
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Adam Curry: yeah. Do the math. Okay. So the you know,
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John C Dvorak: okay, I want to say a couple of things. First of
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all the 911 analogies bad. That was four guys, they took this
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store some planes and blew up pretty much took out a building
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one shot do they want people industries, they weren't rating
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a dance party and shooting up the day did I mean, there was
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that was a massacre where the 260 kids were killed. It's it
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seems more like a extended version of you know, that
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shooter in Las Vegas where they just started picking off poor
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innocents that were at a dance, country and western dance. The
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911 thing just eludes me right now is really
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Adam Curry: an illusion seriously,
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John C Dvorak: there's absolutely so little to do with
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911 It's just the use of the term and it the whole thing by
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bothers me it's not as though a number of people weren't killed.
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And that's bad enough, John, why are we going through the massive
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trouble of equating it to this and that and making stuff up and
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making it worse than it already is?
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Adam Curry: Because it is. It's beyond me what's not beyond me
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and all it's clear as day. By the way, Brown University says
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the cost of the 20 year war was $8 trillion. Okay, 8 trillion.
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Now, the whole point is playbook. That's the whole
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point. We got to do it all over again, we know where it leads.
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We know it leads to Iran. That's that's it's obvious that's
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that's always been in play. It'll probably go first to
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Hezbollah. And we have which would be Lebanon, and we have to
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get everyone into that mode. 911 911 We need money. We need
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money, money, money, money, money, and we have a bad guy. We
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have an Osama bin Laden. It is so unbelievably close to the
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original 911 story. It's crazy.
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Unknown: This is one of the only known photos of Muhammad if it
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dates from 1989 when he was 24 years old years before he became
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a massive military mastermind. He lives in hiding in Gaza. His
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face hasn't been seen publicly in years. But according to
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Israeli reports, he's been heard speaking about the weekend
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attacks on Israel in this video
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Adam Curry: remember when we had we only had cave audio from
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Osama bin Laden? Remember that? Oh, yes, we have audio from him
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in the cave, giving the instructions which had no idea
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what he was saying, Oh, we only have audio of Muhammad if he'd
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seen publicly
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Unknown: in years. But according to Israeli reports he's been
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heard and heard speaking about the weekend attacks on Israel in
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this video released by Hamas has led her masters military wing
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the Alka some brigades for two decades, as seen in this 2003
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report by French TV network false television he was already
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in hiding.
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Why? We the fighters of the Alka Sombra gates confirmed there
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will be no negotiations with Israel or the US whether
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even before he commanded the brigades de F led a wave of
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suicide bombings that killed dozens of Israelis than under
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his leadership, Mr. switched its primary tactic to cross border
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raucous attacks from Gaza. ATF has escalated these
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indiscriminate attacks into a multi pronged assault, directly
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targeting Israeli civilians in their own homes.
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Easy to remember those rhinoplasty were at an impasse.
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They saw that the old methods weren't working. And they also
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realized that by doing this, they succeeded in creating
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terror, creating huge psychological effects.
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Over the years staff has survived multiple attempts on
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his life,
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wait for the wounded in previous Israeli assassination attempts
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from 2001 onwards. There are reports that he has lost an eye
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there are reports that he has lost at least one limb.
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Earlier this week, Israeli airstrikes hit Muhammad day of
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his family home reportedly killing several of his immediate
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relatives. DFC exact location is unknown.
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Adam Curry: I'm gonna bet you he shows up in Iran. I'm just I'm
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just gonna guess that that might be a good place for the this guy
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is profile hasn't been spun up enough yet. This is France 24.
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But a one eyed one legged bandit, like Osama bin Laden is
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a step above. I mean, this is this is really taking it all the
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way you watch this guy be played UPS exactly the same script as
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911. And now we have to continue to create strife inside our own
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countries. We have to make sure that we're all yelling, you
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know, if you're not for this group, You're horrible. If
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you're not for that group, You're horrible. Bring on the ad
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L on MSNBC What a match made in heaven.
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Unknown: The thing that's so challenging vexing about this is
24:06
people are saying well, could this escalate into a wider war?
24:10
It is a water war. This is Al Qaeda from from al Qaeda to ISIS
24:16
to Hamas. He says what Islamic radicalism, jihadism looks like,
24:21
again, it doesn't seek a peaceful resolution of a
24:23
conflict. This was not some inevitable outcome. This was a
24:27
pre planned massacre, and how did they send 1000s of missiles
24:31
into Israel? Because they were supplied by Iran. And we'll ask
24:35
those questions. We will wonder about
24:37
Adam Curry: houses Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the anti
24:40
Defamation League.
24:41
Unknown: Oh, that failure happened that I saw David
24:43
Ignatius, who's journalism I so deeply respect, and it was
24:46
reporting I appreciate and he said, you know, they will look
24:49
at was this an intelligence failure, a military failure.
24:52
Jonathan, same playbook. This was the West's failure. This was
24:57
our failure for decades to allow out Iran and its proxies to
25:02
dehumanize Zionists and Jews to allow people to think on college
25:07
campuses at Harvard. To allow anti Zionism to flourish.
25:12
Adam Curry: We say I'm sure you saw the, the reports that that
25:17
all these billionaires and business owners have said, Oh,
25:21
if you signed that note, at Harvard, we're not we're never
25:25
gonna hire you. You're not hireable you're a horrible
25:28
person saw this
25:29
Unknown: in the 30s legitimate professors, students who came to
25:34
believe the poison of the Third Reich, who came to think that in
25:38
the wake of World War One, the Jews had literally abandoned
25:42
Germany. And remember what history would Hitler said it's
25:46
the Jews who caused their own misfortune. Now we have
25:49
Palestinian Hamas apologists and their acolytes here in the West
25:53
are accomplices. Jonathan saying, Israel broth is on
25:56
blaming the victim, while we're still collecting the bodies is
26:01
as disgraceful and as dishonorable thing as I could
26:05
ever imagine. The last thing I'll say, and I'm so sorry, but
26:08
I don't ever remember feeling like this before. Is that the
26:12
idea? The notion that somehow this piece this rapprochement
26:18
with Saudi Arabia, they were trying to disrupt it I think
26:21
there's some truth to that. But let's be clear, that was a path
26:25
to peace working out a deal that could have given the
26:28
Palestinians the end the Israelis the confidence to make
26:32
a deal with the Palestinians. Terror, reinforces terror
26:36
reinforces the conflict, because that's what these these
26:40
barbarians want. We've got to stand up against them every time
26:44
Adam Curry: so you know, it doesn't matter what you say
26:46
you're gonna have someone yell at you no matter who you are, we
26:50
might as well just not say anything and even our very even
26:52
though I predicted these emails would come in just two quick
26:56
ones that I'll just read your take on Israel and the massacre
27:00
at the Music Festival being an OP is disgusting longtime
27:04
listener I think I'm done now. Here's my here's my favorite
27:10
what
27:11
John C Dvorak: was the first line he said what he said was an
27:13
OP says
27:14
Adam Curry: Your take on Israel and the massacre at the Music
27:17
Festival being an OP is disgusting.
27:19
John C Dvorak: We never said it was an OP No in fact that we
27:23
said it No. I never said was an OS.
27:27
Adam Curry: It might have been an inside job but not an OP.
27:29
John C Dvorak: Well, we fit we fit well. In my the way I see it
27:34
is that this was allowed to take place for some alternatives for
27:38
some for some reason, or other because they there's no way that
27:42
this could have been a surprise. That's all as far as I took it.
27:46
Yeah, those people were genuinely killed. It wasn't an
27:49
OP.
27:50
Adam Curry: Well, you you. You're like this next one?
27:54
John C Dvorak: I bet I will. And by the way, we don't need people
27:57
like that in this audience.
27:59
Adam Curry: Now but it's important to I think it's
28:03
important to just show this that the strife is even within no
28:06
agenda nation.
28:08
John C Dvorak: And because we're going to have new we had the
28:10
same thing with Ukraine. We lost a lot of list.
28:12
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Would you framework Oh, and guess what
28:14
turns out to be pretty spot on about that one. But doesn't of
28:17
course, you sound like a neocon. That's a subject from it's not a
28:23
real country to the nice Jews. We're just going to pray in the
28:27
temple. You are Neo cons. Let's just let me read it. Your Neo
28:32
cons. I'm gonna start I'm gonna start over
28:35
John C Dvorak: it's over but I'm just today. This is like is he
28:38
listening to our show
28:40
Adam Curry: yet? But this is this is what happens when people
28:42
get infected by by the media virus. It's a truth when when
28:46
people throw at you 911 The first thing I think is dancing
28:51
Israelis or whatever. From it's not a real country to the nice
28:56
Jews. We're just going to pray in the temple. Your neocon
28:59
Zionist biases are becoming obvious, and you sound like Dan
29:03
Vaughn Gino or your buddy Glenn Beck, playing Wesley Clark's
29:07
clip and not connecting it to the Zionist project and the
29:10
ancillary projects like mass immigration, pornography, trans
29:14
attacks on free speech that they do to us which they did to
29:18
Germany until they rose up against jewelry and butthurt
29:20
bankers thus rallied the world to destroy them. It is one
29:24
tribal group doing all these things and you know it no matter
29:28
how hard your Jewish wife John handpicks view it's going to do
29:33
your sole good to tell the truth and connect the dots or are you
29:36
going to convert to take part in the blood rituals the sick and
29:40
the interviews want to return to and desecrate whole Muslim holy
29:44
sites? You are already halfway there halfway there as a Christ
29:48
cook it said. So this is how this this is Christ
29:53
John C Dvorak: cook him a Christ. Wow,
29:55
Adam Curry: great show title. Great.
29:57
John C Dvorak: Yes, a great phrase Christ cook Okay.
30:02
Adam Curry: So a little a little historical background. I like
30:08
doing this. Because this comes for because we don't get any of
30:12
this in the United States. And this, of course, is TRT Turkish
30:16
radio and television. And so they come at it from a
30:22
perspective that they start off by, I think, Miss misnomer of
30:27
Palestine, it used to be Syria Palestina, but okay, they're
30:32
going to give us the history of Britain's role. And
30:35
subsequently, the League of Nations and the United Nations
30:40
in this entire thing, and you just don't get any of these
30:43
perspectives. Forget about the obvious slant, they're they're
30:48
putting on it, because you can, you can refute a lot of what
30:53
they're saying. But I think some of some of this is good to hear
30:57
for people who just have no perspective, because as long as
31:00
I've been alive, and as long as you've been alive, this crap has
31:04
been going on. I mean, ever since you were a boy. I'm sure
31:10
you remember always
31:11
John C Dvorak: been going on. I remember, just two quick
31:14
stories. One when I was at Berkeley, it was every day there
31:18
was some Jewish guy and a Palestinian guy yelling at each
31:22
other in the on the sprawl Plaza, there was every day. And
31:27
then I went, I told him the story about this before, which
31:32
is a three hour lecture I heard at Wheeler auditorium with Phil
31:36
Spector. And this was very long ago, and Phil Spector mentioned
31:41
in his speech, that when he was a kid, this has been going on it
31:47
this is never ending,
31:48
Adam Curry: and, and just for a biblical history, this goes back
31:53
to Isaac and Ishmael, briefly. Abraham and Sarah were told they
31:59
were going to have a son, the son would, you know, all the
32:03
tribes of Israel would come out of this. And Sarah, and they
32:08
were like, 70, or something like, okay, yeah, sure, God, and
32:11
Sarah's, like, this has taken too long. So she brought her
32:14
handmade and Hagar and said, Hey, Bran wants you to lay with
32:18
her, as they say, in biblical terms. And out of that came
32:21
Ishmael. But that but you know, she, she used to hope to God.
32:25
And so then eventually she had Isaac miracle. And this
32:30
literally was the Jew and the Arab who hate each other. This
32:33
is literally where it comes from. This is why when I was in
32:37
Bangkok, with my friend Benco, when Israeli who was an grew up
32:41
and and or lived in Amsterdam, there were just two Arab guys
32:44
who came into this rest, I think, was a McDonald's in
32:46
Bangkok of all things. And they were just dressed in blue jeans,
32:49
he was anything. And he said, Look at him, look them, they
32:51
hate me. They look at how they hate me. And then meanwhile, I
32:53
could feel his hate. I'm like, what what is your problem? It
32:57
goes back this far. So now we go down go into the history of
33:03
Israel. This is that of course. I mean, this goes back to the
33:07
Ottoman Empire. Do kids even learn about the Ottoman Empire
33:10
in school anymore? Only 100 years ago, not that long ago.
33:16
John C Dvorak: taught any of this? No,
33:17
Adam Curry: it's important.
33:18
Unknown: When you think Palestine you may think
33:20
violence, land seizures, and a decade's long Israeli
33:23
occupation. But what you might not know is that another country
33:26
plays a driving role in causing the region's conflict, Imperial
33:29
Britain. From 1516 to at least 1917, Palestine was under the
33:37
control of the Ottoman Empire, a religiously diverse land where
33:41
Christians, Muslims and Jews lived alongside one another at
33:44
peace for the most part. Then in the early 1900s, a small number
33:47
of European Jews were trying to drum up support for Zionism and
33:50
establishment of a Jewish homeland just 20 years before in
33:53
1897, the movements led by Theodore Hutsul, was initiated
33:57
at a conference in Switzerland, they decided that they would
34:00
advocate for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. But the movement
34:02
at the time didn't have much support. And at the time, only
34:06
around 8% of the population of Palestine was Jewish. At the
34:10
same time, Arab nationalism was on the rise, and many
34:12
Palestinians wanted an independent state, Imperial
34:16
Britain you have both ambitions of Zionist and Palestinians and
34:19
use the situation to bolster their own interests. In 1914,
34:23
amid World War One, Britain went to war with the Ottoman Empire.
34:26
And in 1915, Henry McMahon, Britain's representative in
34:29
Cairo that pushed Arab leaders with a proposal, Britain was
34:32
agreed to Arab independence if they helped fight against the
34:35
Ottomans. Then in 1917, Britain's Foreign Secretary
34:38
wrote a one paragraph letter to Walter Rothschild a leading
34:41
figure in the British Jewish community. It's read His
34:44
Majesty's government's views with favor the establishment in
34:46
Palestine have a national home for the Jewish people, and will
34:49
use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of
34:52
this object. This letter became known as the Balfour
34:54
Declaration.
34:55
Adam Curry: This is important because I think even today's
34:58
kids should at least learn about the All for declaration. I mean,
35:02
it gives you a little more context than this drivel. This
35:07
this, the absolute drivel that is being seeped out of
35:12
television and people in watch television. But all these clips
35:15
get onto social media and it's in some ways, even taken up
35:19
context is just horrible how over socialized and under
35:23
educated people are.
35:25
Unknown: And it was in stark contrast to a declaration of the
35:27
British and French armies in 1918, which showed the people of
35:30
Syria Palestine and Mesopotamia of autonomy. So what was going
35:34
on? Britain had promised independence to the Arabs that
35:37
lived in Palestine, but then also promised a homeland for
35:40
Jews on land that was already inhabited was Britain just
35:43
transferring land that did not belong to them to whoever they
35:45
liked. When the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1918, the League of
35:49
Nations gave Britain a mandate or administrative control of
35:51
Palestine in 1920. It was a dual mandate. On one hand, they were
35:55
to act on behalf of Palestinians. But on the other
35:58
hand, they were to act on behalf of the international community
36:00
of Jews who wanted to establish a homeland, Britain and drew up
36:03
arbitrary borders, transferring the eastern bank of the Jordan
36:06
River to the Hashemites. It was under the British mandate that
36:09
Jews from Europe began to emigrate to Palestine and buy up
36:12
land. The Jewish population in Palestine grew tenfold, from
36:15
60,000 to more than 600,000. Between 1918 and 1947. Many
36:21
Palestinians saw the mass influx of Jews as a European colonial
36:24
movement.
36:24
Adam Curry: What's interesting is the video that goes along
36:26
with this, you literally see checkpoints with people on
36:30
horses. Yeah, it's the same thing. It's been going on since
36:35
for a long time, the checkpoints there were no cars, people on
36:39
horses,
36:40
Unknown: so as one might expect it led to conflict. In 1929,
36:44
riots broke out at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, with
36:47
Palestinians and Jews lost lives. In 1936. After Jewish
36:51
emigration increased even more, more riots broke out. This time
36:55
the British were heavy handed and killed between 2005 1000
36:58
Palestinians. The Royal British Commission concluded that
37:01
because Britain had allowed mass emigration, Palestine had two
37:04
distinct societies that couldn't be reconciled.
37:06
Adam Curry: I love how Britain kind of no one really talks
37:10
about Britain being the the actor behind the
37:12
John C Dvorak: whole thing. That's the reason they're so
37:15
guilt ridden. And they're they jumping in oh, we're gonna do
37:20
whatever we have to
37:21
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's 40 seconds left,
37:23
Unknown: they recommended a partition of the land. The Arab
37:26
hire committee rejected this, saying it was all their lands.
37:29
Britain then banned the Arab higher commission. They
37:31
introduced the white paper of 1939 white paper stated that
37:34
Palestine should be a binational states inhabited by Jews and
37:37
Palestinians, but that Jewish immigration would be limited for
37:40
five years. But illegal immigration still went on and
37:43
violates all immigration. And when Britain couldn't handle the
37:46
mess, they had a part in creating, they handed the
37:49
country back to the UN in 1948. The UN then decided to partition
37:53
Palestine. The story gets a lot more complicated after this, but
37:56
the British promising land which already belongs to Palestinians,
37:59
to other people has played a part in decades of conflict and
38:02
bloodshed.
38:03
Adam Curry: Alright, so the UN, the UN is like, oh, we should
38:06
have a two state solution. Another thing I've been hearing
38:09
all my life and here is our current United Nations. What is
38:16
the Director General? Is it, President, Chief, whatever the
38:20
group that has
38:21
Unknown: this most recent violence does not come in a
38:22
vacuum back home. The reality is that it grows out of a long
38:26
standing conflict with a 56 year long occupation and no political
38:31
end in sight. I am deeply distressed by today's
38:35
announcement that Israel will initiate a complete seizure of
38:38
the Gaza Strip, nothing allowed in no electricity, food or fuel.
38:44
Israel must see its legitimate needs for security materialized,
38:49
and Palestinians must see a clear perspective for the
38:52
establishment of their own state realized only a negotiated peace
38:58
that fulfills the legitimate national aspirations of
39:01
Palestinians and Israelis, together with their security,
39:05
like the long held vision of a two state solution in line with
39:09
the United Nations resolutions, international law and previous
39:12
agreements can bring long term stability to the people of these
39:16
lands and why the Middle East region. Thank you.
39:20
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you very much. Whatever same old sank you
39:26
saying that quick, biblical reference. Matthew 24. This is
39:32
Jesus on the mound he says you will hear of wars and rumors of
39:35
wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must
39:39
happen but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against
39:43
nation and kingdom against kingdom. So you know, as a as a
39:47
Christian, I'm like, Yeah, okay, I guess maybe we're there. But
39:50
then comes this. There'll be famines and earthquakes in
39:53
various places.
39:55
Unknown: There is another major story developing overseas, at
39:58
least 2000 people have died. aid after twin earthquakes in
40:01
Afghanistan near the border with Iran, hundreds of people are
40:05
believed to be trapped in the rubble. A lack of modern
40:08
equipment is hampering the rescue efforts. No
40:10
Adam Curry: worries, all these are the beginning of the birth
40:12
pains. Actually, it's
40:14
John C Dvorak: 3000
40:15
Adam Curry: years old report it is at least two hours old. But
40:20
John C Dvorak: there's another issue here that's not being
40:21
discussed in the West. And that is war crimes which are apparent
40:28
by both sides.
40:30
Adam Curry: For me, it's just I just want to say, war crimes to
40:35
me is the same as hate speech. I mean, well, it's like, okay,
40:40
John C Dvorak: there are certain specific things and I want to
40:42
play these three clips you got it? Is War Crimes lead in Al
40:46
Jazeera.
40:47
Unknown: Petit Calhoun joins me now from Washington, DC for more
40:51
on this and blinking on his way. Now, what does the issue having
40:54
to achieve by going himself?
40:57
Well, first and foremost, it sends the message, it backs up
40:59
with the President's words that the US is fully behind Israel.
41:03
But there's going to be discussions and one thing we've
41:05
noticed in the last 24 hours is the US has really started to
41:09
shift focus to try and to get a humanitarian corridor out of
41:13
Gaza. We he said on the tarmac, that he's been speaking to
41:17
officials in Egypt. And in Israel. He said it was
41:19
complicated. He didn't explain exactly where the negotiations
41:24
were being held up. He wouldn't answer that. But it is very
41:27
clear. And we're hearing this from the White House from the
41:29
secretary of state that they are pushing to have some way to get
41:33
civilians out of Gaza, get Americans out, get civilians
41:37
out, they are working that and they undoubtedly that is going
41:41
to be a huge part of the conversation.
41:44
John C Dvorak: And that leads us to the problem that that no one
41:47
wants to talk about in our media. This is a clip to
41:51
Unknown: the end, Joe Biden has just been holding a meeting with
41:54
Jewish leaders at the White House. What did they have to
41:57
talk about? And did he make any announcements off the back of
42:00
that?
42:01
Well, he actually moved the needle a little bit. I watched
42:05
his speech just the other day. And it was the full throated
42:08
angry, really emotional speech from US President Joe Biden
42:12
about this. And some were critical of him because he
42:15
didn't call for any sort of restraint from Israel, it was a
42:18
full throated endorsement. We were speaking to this group, he
42:21
told them he had spoken to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
42:24
Netanyahu, and that he told them that he had even though people
42:28
are very angry that they have to follow the rules of war. And so
42:34
that's seems to me to be putting a baseline on what they expect
42:38
from these really operation. One critical thing is, that would be
42:43
the civilian quarter because it is against the laws of war two,
42:48
that blood civilians escaped and also might call into question
42:52
that total blockade blockade of Gaza. That is a war crime
42:56
according to all rules of law, the Geneva Convention, so he's
42:59
17, possibly a subtle message to Israel, that there is a there
43:04
are things that the US will not condone.
43:08
John C Dvorak: This is going to be a problem. You can't cordon
43:11
off an entire area and just pummel them, and not allowing
43:16
them to escape that is a war crime by any standards. As far
43:19
as I'm concerned. I don't think it's like hate speech is really,
43:22
you just can't put someone in a cage and then just bomb the shit
43:25
out of them. Because it's fun. I have a I have a fact there's a
43:29
third,
43:30
Adam Curry: I want to give you 24 seconds. Because this this is
43:34
of course the problem. This is from last year. This is fun to
43:38
lie in talking about Russia.
43:39
Unknown: Yesterday, we saw again, Russia's targeted attacks
43:43
against civilian infrastructure, targeted attacks on civilian
43:48
infrastructure with a clear aim to cut off men, women, children
43:54
of water, electricity and heating with winter coming.
43:58
These are acts of pure terror. And we have to call it as such.
44:04
Okay,
44:05
John C Dvorak: excellent.
44:06
Adam Curry: To pull out of a hat you get to call it that
44:09
sometimes I guess not always.
44:10
John C Dvorak: That was a good one. Yeah. Okay. Well, here's
44:12
the final for these this war crime stuff,
44:15
Unknown: and petty, can you just give us a bit more of an idea
44:17
about what sort of military aid the US is actually sending
44:20
Israel?
44:21
They are being incredibly vague. As you know, I'm the defense
44:24
correspondents, I've been speaking to people at the
44:26
Pentagon. And there was concern even before this happened in
44:30
Israel, that they were going to run out of ammunition. They've
44:33
been giving incredible amounts of ammunition to Ukraine.
44:36
They've been trying to ramp up production, but it obviously
44:38
takes time. This officials told me on background that basically
44:42
yes, we believe we can give Israel some of what it needs
44:47
because we've got stockpiles all over the globe.
44:49
Adam Curry: Hold on a second. All that we had left was cluster
44:54
munitions. Is that what we're sending over now?
44:58
John C Dvorak: Dado No, in fact, you Only LG zeros mentioned this
45:01
because we talk about on the army is oh, we're, you're giving
45:04
him a we're sending some, you know, some chips down there to
45:07
block to block the Mediterranean, we're there. But
45:10
they don't say what you're saying when we're sending them
45:13
delta zero tried to dig into it. And they can't find out that we
45:17
don't know if it's cluster munitions or if it's, you know,
45:20
bubblegum we have, there's no idea. That said
45:23
Unknown: they've been very vague. They said, We want to
45:25
give them Munitions for the Iron Dome defense system, obviously.
45:30
And then other than that, they really haven't given very many
45:33
details. Now, if Israel is were to launch a ground invasion, it
45:38
is by far the most challenging type of war for warfare in
45:42
existence, it is exceptionally dangerous and deadly. So if the
45:47
Israel has decided what they would do, likely with Secretary
45:50
Blinken, they're going over some of those plans, some of the
45:52
finding out where some of those shortfalls are. If they are
45:55
going to do a ground incursion, in an incredibly densely
45:58
populated area with very narrow streets, they'll need things
46:01
like night vision goggles, they'll need ammunition perhaps
46:05
better, but body armor. So really, they're I think, part of
46:08
trying to get a sense of where Israel is going to take this and
46:11
what the US can do to help them.
46:13
Okay, thank you so much. That is Petit Kelheim for us. In
46:16
Washington DC
46:17
Adam Curry: TRT had a report about what's being sent and the
46:20
and what the US is doing to support Israel. Here it is
46:24
Unknown: US President Joe Biden called Hamas his attack on
46:27
Israel and atrocity on an appalling scale, promised that
46:31
the US has Israel's back and then issued a warning.
46:36
Let me say again, any country, any organization, anyone
46:41
thinking of taking advantage of situation? I have one word,
46:45
don't. Don't
46:48
Adam Curry: that's actually a contraction. It's actually two
46:49
words.
46:54
John C Dvorak: But even so, even so he said it twice. I have one
46:57
word, don't don't.
47:01
Unknown: March may be broken. But our resolve is clear. Biden
47:05
tried to separate the Palestinian people from Hamas.
47:09
Hamas does not stand for the Palestinian people, by
47:11
Adam Curry: the way. I'm sorry. This is our president now.
47:17
Unknown: I have one word don't.
47:20
Adam Curry: And our president then I have two words for you.
47:25
Predator drones. I mean, come on. That was cool. Predator
47:28
drones. Two words
47:30
Unknown: don't. Our hearts may be broken. But our resolve is
47:36
clear.
47:36
Biden tried to separate the Palestinian people from Hamas.
47:41
Hamas does not stand for the Palestinian people's right to
47:44
dignity and self determination. Its stated purpose is
47:48
annihilation of the State of Israel
47:49
on the murder of Jewish people.
47:51
National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan says the death toll of
47:54
Americans killed in the Hamas attack has grown to more than a
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dozen with nearly two dozen unaccounted for. But it's not
48:02
clear how many of those are being held hostage by Hamas.
48:06
Sullivan said there are still no plans to put US forces into the
48:09
conflicts and that for now, the US is only helping Israel beef
48:14
up its Iron Dome defense shield and providing expertise and
48:18
intelligence and sending a flotilla of warships toward
48:22
Israel as a deterrent
48:23
Adam Curry: slay Flotilla. Isn't a flotilla a certain amount.
48:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no. Chicken. Nobody uses the term
48:32
flotilla they there's a term for what they sent.
48:36
Adam Curry: Well, um, see flotilla is like a bunch of
48:38
rafts. A small fleet of vessels commercial or otherwise, he was
48:46
asked this
48:47
John C Dvorak: fleet, it's a big fleet, aircraft carrier and a
48:51
bunch of destroyers small
48:53
Adam Curry: No, that's not a flotilla. That's a fleet,
48:55
Unknown: but he was asked how much of Israel's retaliation,
48:58
its destruction in Gaza is the US willing to tolerate?
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I don't think of this in terms of retaliation. This is about
49:06
providing support to Israel as it seeks to defend its territory
49:11
and deal with an ongoing imminent threat from Hamas
49:14
terrorists.
49:15
Still, the Biden administration is talking to officials in
49:18
Israel and Egypt, about providing a safe passage to
49:21
Palestinians, perhaps through Egypt, even though Egypt has
49:25
been reluctant in the past to open up its Gaza border to them.
49:29
And that is sure to be one of the topics when US Secretary of
49:33
State Antony Blinken arrives in Israel later this week. Oh,
49:37
that's
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Adam Curry: all you need. You need Blinken that's just sent
49:39
Newland. That'll make it even when they didn't
49:41
John C Dvorak: send that report. What you you you falsely
49:44
promoted Oh, I had the floods. They didn't say what they said
49:47
some some parts for that. No, no, no. I
49:50
Adam Curry: said that. They tried to get the answer to this.
49:53
So they also
49:55
John C Dvorak: can't get the answer except the parts I
49:57
Raytheon. Apparently scutts should send Some stuff. So that
50:01
part's at the further end, because nobody else is using
50:04
this, you know, these patriots
50:07
Adam Curry: this is. So this is how I'm going to view this
50:10
conflict and what happens for the next period of time. I mean,
50:15
I, I do not think this is going to end swiftly, it's going to
50:20
expand, just like COVID. Just like 911. Really, this is a
50:26
liquid liquidity event. And we're in more need of it than
50:30
ever, I would say, I don't know much about the public markets.
50:34
But I see the issue with everyone going into bonds. All
50:39
of a sudden, by on Friday, everything reversed the dollar
50:42
started. This is before this attack happened. The dollar
50:45
reversed, the bond yields started to go down stocks were
50:48
looking more attractive. All the Fed presidents were coming out
50:51
egg economy's great, everything's good, then this
50:54
happens. And for that we had a little blip there where Oh,
50:58
everyone's all our stocks are gonna go up. And I think today
51:00
it's down again. So we need money. The military industrial
51:04
complex needs money. Right now we're in a shutdown situation.
51:10
So they couldn't get the 24 billion they want it for
51:13
Ukraine, then I'm I'm I mean, it's so obvious. So so obvious
51:19
that that how much money is going to be created for this? I
51:23
don't think we have a war chest per se. I don't think we have
51:26
anything. I mean, what we have stuff for everybody.
51:30
John C Dvorak: Like that one report said they got stockpiles
51:32
all over the world. Yeah. Well,
51:34
Adam Curry: we didn't have it for Ukraine. But I think I
51:37
think, you know, we're gonna go into money printing mode. And
51:40
the markets needed the banks need it. It's hard. I'm so
51:43
happy. We don't have a cap on on our honored on our national
51:47
debt. With that, that's convenient that there's no
51:51
statutory debt at the moment, as you know, no ceiling. And then
51:56
of course, even though I truly believe this, truly, here's some
52:02
here's some disinformation that came out. But actually falls
52:07
right, it leads it folds into this topic of money for the
52:11
military industrial complex. So going on whenever you see a clip
52:14
that is 12 or 15 seconds long. That is an oh my god, I can't
52:19
believe it. You shouldn't show that. Oh, my God, I can't
52:22
believe it clip that's been going around is a Rear Admiral
52:25
Kirby of the the National Security Council. Say, here's,
52:32
here's the headline on the tweet, we're leaving you we're
52:36
gonna we're gonna step away from Ukraine. No more funding for
52:40
Ukraine. Look here. He said anything
52:42
Unknown: funny. We're, we're coming near to the end of the
52:44
rope. I mean, today we announced $200 million. And we'll keep
52:48
that aid going as long as we can. But it's it's not going to
52:51
be indefinite. So
52:53
Adam Curry: it's not going to be indefinite. Oh, no, that's it.
52:55
We're ending? We're ending support for Ukraine? No, no, it
53:00
is quite the opposite. He is pleading for more money for
53:03
everything. Here's the full minute,
53:05
Unknown: can you provide us anything on a timeline or give
53:08
us a sense of how quickly the US would exhaust what it can
53:11
provide to Israel before
53:13
congressional actions and existing authorities and
53:15
appropriations to support Israel in the near term? And I got
53:20
asked last time, you know, what is near term? Or what's a bit
53:23
mean? I, I can't give you a date calendar, because a lot of it's
53:27
going to depend on their expenditure rate, and what the
53:29
replenishment ability is, what the need is and what our ability
53:32
to do it is. But in the near term, we've we've got
53:36
appropriations and authorities for both Ukraine and for Israel.
53:41
For both, you don't want to be trying to bake in long term
53:45
support. When you're at the end of the rope and the in Ukraine,
53:50
on the Ukraine funding. We're, we're coming near to the end of
53:52
the rope. I mean, today we announced $200 million. And
53:57
we'll keep that aid going as long as we can. But it's it's
54:00
not going to be indefinite. So are we moving with a sense of
54:02
alacrity? Absolutely. I couldn't give you a date certain on the
54:05
calendar.
54:05
Adam Curry: So no, no, what he's saying is not worth stepping
54:08
away from Ukraine. No, we're doubling down. We need more for
54:11
Ukraine. We Yes.
54:13
John C Dvorak: Actually, the point you made about if you see
54:16
a 15 second clip going around, I see these all the time, and I'm
54:19
always trying to find the original. Yeah. Which is what we
54:23
both do. But when you see something like that going
54:25
around, yeah, it's taken out of context to fool you. Yes. And
54:30
all you have to do is do a little digging, and I don't know
54:33
why nobody, nobody but this show seems to do that. So now let's
54:37
head it's really remarkable to me since we only had 41 people
54:41
out of the almost million people that listen to the show that
54:43
even bothered to contribute over $50 for this particular show,
54:47
Adam Curry: you know, we could we could turn the cameras on,
54:49
boasted here with headphones, and then talk about the outrage
54:52
of the babies. And we're going to bomb them though. Yeah, we'd
54:56
make twice we make twice as much money if not more. So, two
55:01
theaters we're going to add to this. We don't have to go too
55:05
deep into it. But you probably heard about the pipeline, the
55:09
Finland gas pipeline. Well, it looks like that was some
55:16
terrorism. Someone blew up that pipeline. Of course, Finland is
55:20
a brand new NATO member, what are the chances? So outcomes?
55:25
Jens Stoltenberg, the head honcho of NATO was the Lensky
55:29
literally standing next to him like a little boy. And here's
55:34
what yen says
55:35
Unknown: we will also address the incident in the Baltic Sea,
55:40
with the damage caused to critical undersea
55:45
infrastructure. I spoke with Preston Salvini minister and
55:48
Prime Minister Carlos yesterday, and we are in close contact
55:52
important thing now is to establish what happened and how
55:56
this could happen. If it is proven to be a deliberate attack
56:01
on a NATO critical infrastructure, then this will
56:04
be of course serious, but it will also be met by a united and
56:10
determined response from NATO
56:13
Adam Curry: Article Five because was Finland is now a NATO
56:16
country. So if someone did anything to that pipeline, Putin
56:20
if anyone did some of that pipeline Oh, Article Five
56:24
response so we have
56:25
John C Dvorak: all a different idea. What if it was Lewinsky's
56:29
boys the Ukrainians who did something to that pipeline just
56:32
to stir things up? And we find out that it was them do it? Does
56:36
NATO attack them now?
56:37
Adam Curry: Dream on Dream? Dream on? No, we want more wars.
56:42
War is good for business. It's good for business. And now the
56:47
final frontier besides sadly, I think Lebanon is there's not
56:52
much to realize in Lebanon anymore. But you know, I it's on
56:57
the west Clarke seven lists so we'll just we'll just add it
57:00
there. That wouldn't take much.
57:01
John C Dvorak: I do have actually a couple of clips
57:03
regarding the Hezbollah attack from Lebanon. Let's do that.
57:07
Let's do that. This is habitable attack at this is not what you
57:11
hear from any of our media. Again, I have to go to Al
57:14
Jazeera English for this. This is Hezbollah attack one
57:18
Unknown: of the Israeli army is trying to calm fears after a
57:21
false alarms and people nationwide scrambling for
57:24
shelter.
57:30
warning sirens rang out across northern Israel and flares were
57:34
fired at the border. As people across the country were told to
57:37
seek shelter over a possible aerial infiltration from
57:41
Lebanon. The army now says the Panic was caused by human error.
57:45
Only Hashem is in the town of Nakota human error and Lebanon
57:49
near the border with Israel.
57:50
Today was a very hectic day. It started with Hezbollah attack on
57:56
Israeli troops on the borders, mainly in the HERA village on
58:02
the border line. According to the pictures we saw from
58:06
Hezbollah, it seems that there was a direct hit with guided
58:11
missiles. Now following that Israeli assaulted shelling, the
58:16
villages surrounding the borders, and there were two
58:20
people injured. Now, later on, this alarm came and there were
58:25
these reports about planes, paragliders crossing towards the
58:31
border. However, there was no genuine reason to understand why
58:38
this alarm is coming out because none of these product gliders
58:42
were seen with eyes. Also, at the same time, these product
58:47
gliders, the alleged panic gliders did not engage in a
58:52
battle or in the fight on the ground. So later on, it was
58:56
clarified that this is not right.
58:59
Adam Curry: This is interesting. This paraglider thing paramotor
59:03
ultralight everyone's using different words for it. It's
59:07
it's also a 911 throwback to these guys couldn't even fly a
59:10
Cessna. And they flew these planes into buildings. Oh, look,
59:14
they're coming over a little paragliders and they're causing
59:17
havoc. It's all a just a different verse. It's like a
59:21
reboot of cheers.
59:23
John C Dvorak: Whatever the case is, the non existent paragliders
59:28
that part clipped to indicate that the Israelis are actually
59:32
pounding the southern border of Lebanon as we speak.
59:36
Unknown: However, the Israeli army continued to launch fleurs
59:41
in the skies of South Lebanon, also burning the bushes around
59:47
the borders in order to deny any fighters. Kind of a cover just
59:53
in case they're trying to infiltrate the border. So it was
59:57
a it was a hectic day for Israel. The troops on the
1:00:00
Lebanese side and this clarified the situation whereas the
1:00:05
tension is mounting day after day. So, in comparison with
1:00:11
yesterday when rockets were launched and hummus, Al Qassam
1:00:15
brigades claimed responsibility or the day before where a group
1:00:19
from Islamic Jihad infiltrated the borders and engage in a
1:00:22
battle with Israelis. Today was the bigger day. And it seems
1:00:26
that this tension is going to continue. It's not going to
1:00:29
stop. And at least from what I understand this is going to
1:00:33
continue as far as the campaign on Gaza is going to continue to
1:00:38
continue.
1:00:39
Adam Curry: Oh, man, peanuts. This is the peanuts part in the
1:00:44
background. We need to slowly ramp up Iran. This is the prize.
1:00:49
This is the big one. This is what and it would be would it be
1:00:52
any better to have Israel attack Iran with our weapons? We wish
1:00:59
John C Dvorak: that that would have to be what that would have
1:01:02
to be it
1:01:02
Adam Curry: and the Washington Post Robo WaPo has Iran on their
1:01:09
mind. So we had Chuck Schumer, Senator Schumer went to talk to
1:01:13
President GE, as the representative of the United
1:01:17
States, our president can't get a meeting with him. So send the
1:01:21
next best thing. And so here's a question from WaPo. Journal. He
1:01:25
asked a question about GE. But he also asked he slips into
1:01:28
question about Iran, the answer is somewhat surprising.
1:01:31
Unknown: Thank you very much. Just following up on what you
1:01:32
just said. How did they respond specifically on the point of
1:01:35
Iran? How did President Xi respond on that? And more
1:01:38
broadly, if I could just ask a broader question? Many analysts
1:01:43
cite a lack of trust between the US and China as one of the
1:01:46
biggest stumbling blocks to better ties between the
1:01:48
countries after meeting with President Xi today, do you trust
1:01:52
him more or less than
1:01:53
let me just say this, both sides, the Chinese and us said,
1:01:58
unless we have sincere conversations about our
1:02:01
differences, and not pull any punches, that we would never
1:02:06
solve these problems. And the thing that I think we respected
1:02:09
is the Chinese leadership from President Xi on down understood
1:02:13
that we were going to be strong understood that we're going to
1:02:16
be tough, but also understood that's a necessity if we're ever
1:02:19
going to improve the relationship. On the first
1:02:22
question he listened.
1:02:24
Adam Curry: Now listen to to Schumer not having the answer,
1:02:27
but his handlers giving him the answer.
1:02:30
Unknown: I don't recall him saying anything specific on it,
1:02:33
but he listened several times deliver the message. Go ahead.
1:02:36
They said they would deliver the message to the Iranians. Yes.
1:02:40
Adam Curry: Okay. Okay. They said they would deliver the
1:02:43
message to the Iranians. So WaPo has Iran in their sights WaPo, I
1:02:50
would say is compromised. They just fire they just fired 10% of
1:02:54
their workforce. They fired 200 people for whatever reason.
1:02:58
There is a scandal brewing. The Special Envoy to Iran from the
1:03:03
US State Department, Robert Malley has kind of disappeared.
1:03:07
He was supposed to show up in some hearings, and you know, he
1:03:11
couldn't make it and now he's gone away, and we don't know
1:03:15
where he is. And oh, WaPo has intercepted some emails and
1:03:21
communications between him one of his fellow State Department
1:03:26
or former State Department workers now at the Pentagon with
1:03:29
Iran. It turns out, we had an Iranian spy in the State
1:03:35
Department. Remember, now there's all this noise about
1:03:40
Donald Trump leaking the plans to attack Iran? No, that's then
1:03:45
he had it and then someone else had it and who knows who had it,
1:03:48
but WaPo and this has been going on for a few weeks. No one's
1:03:51
really talking about it. This is Michael Christianson. He's he
1:03:56
he's on bitchute. So you're no, you're no, it's good. And he
1:04:01
gives us a brief overview of what's happening with the
1:04:05
special envoy. And the spies. The Iranian spies in the State
1:04:10
Department. Iran is bad
1:04:11
Unknown: right about the same time Malley was under suspicion.
1:04:14
Wow. Sensitive US government documents started showing up in
1:04:19
Iran state media, so our top Iran guide disappears for
1:04:23
mishandling classified information and classified
1:04:26
information starts showing up in Iranian government hands. It's
1:04:30
not hard to deduce what happened here. But this new report adds
1:04:34
detail Robert Malley wasn't really our top Iran guy. He was
1:04:39
actually a Ron's top America guy. According to the report in
1:04:42
the emails It cites Robert Malley was funding supporting
1:04:46
and directing an Iranian intelligence operation designed
1:04:49
to influence the United States. This project was called the
1:04:53
Iranian experts initiative. So the experts strike again through
1:04:57
it. The Iranian government was recruiting Western academics,
1:05:01
meeting them abroad to receive their loyalty and issue
1:05:05
directions for how to influence the US government. Though of
1:05:08
course eventually it wasn't just influence that Robert Malley
1:05:11
achieved at the State Department. It was a job at the
1:05:15
highest level crafting Iran policy and Robert Malley brought
1:05:19
his Iranian experts initiative friends to the administration to
1:05:23
so while Malley is now officially out on leave, there's
1:05:26
still at least one more in a high level position. Who isn't
1:05:30
the emails in the report show a woman named Aryan Tabata by is
1:05:34
also a part of this Iranian influence network who is Tabata
1:05:37
by Well, she's a person Robert Malley, personally brought into
1:05:41
Biden's administration. She was first at the State Department.
1:05:45
She was a diplomat on Melis iran nuclear negotiation team under
1:05:48
Biden, and now she works at the Pentagon, where she's currently
1:05:52
the Chief of Staff for the Assistant Secretary of Defense
1:05:56
for special operations. So not only did she negotiate with
1:05:59
hostels while being part of a propaganda network for those
1:06:03
hostels, she's now working with our SpecOps who of course,
1:06:07
handle our most risky and difficult military operations
1:06:10
should any heightened conflict arise, emails were covered by
1:06:14
the Wall Street Journal reporters showed Tabata by
1:06:16
consulting with and seeking advice from Iran's foreign
1:06:20
ministry before attending policy events. Before she gave
1:06:23
congressional testimony in 2014. She asked an Iranian official
1:06:27
for advice on how to deal with other witnesses, who are Iran
1:06:31
critics, she sent in a run sympathetic article she
1:06:34
published in The Boston Globe to this Iranian official for praise
1:06:38
and recognition. And also in these emails. The Iranian
1:06:41
government was very pleased with the results of their project.
1:06:46
Adam Curry: So if you want something to crack open view,
1:06:48
call your friends at WaPo it's coming to the it's coming up.
1:06:52
It's gonna bubble up. We've got Mohamed de F. I guarantee you
1:06:56
he'll show up in Iran. Oh, yeah. We found him we are smoke them
1:07:00
out.
1:07:02
John C Dvorak: The whole thing of these people go back to the
1:07:05
to the very middle east centric Obama administration. And yeah,
1:07:14
this spy network is quite funny. It's it was written up in a
1:07:18
couple of different places. Nobody knows quite what to make
1:07:22
of it.
1:07:25
Adam Curry: Don't worry, it'll it'll be twisted into something.
1:07:29
But it's Iran is bad. Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, let
1:07:32
Israel do it. It all has to leave everyone saying it. Every
1:07:36
report. The anti Defamation League, obviously Iran,
1:07:40
Hezbollah, Iran, Hamas. Iran is all around. We've got to go out
1:07:44
we got to go with the route swung out. The one eyed one
1:07:49
legged guy who planned it all he's in Iran, you can just wait
1:07:52
for it.
1:07:52
John C Dvorak: Wait, if that happens, I'm gonna give you 10
1:07:54
points because that would be ideal. We should also meet the
1:08:00
whole thing's a scam.
1:08:01
Adam Curry: Well, this is what I believe is it's a scam the
1:08:04
military industrial complex. It's for politics. It's being
1:08:09
used for is getting all of the bad news off of the front line.
1:08:13
Even the bad news about you the Ukraine conflict. Everything is
1:08:19
just off the table. Don't worry about it. I was
1:08:21
John C Dvorak: hooked by this by the way. As you can tell by my
1:08:24
clips. There was no way of getting any other news except
1:08:30
this story clip custodian
1:08:33
Adam Curry: sent me his normal batch is like it's all Israel.
1:08:38
John C Dvorak: I did get some of the stories. I mean, a few of
1:08:41
them here and there, but they're all They're all minor. Well,
1:08:44
there's one. There's one other thing about the hunter Biden's
1:08:47
This is the real kicker to me is the hunter Biden's all of a
1:08:50
sudden completely opted out. Of course,
1:08:53
Adam Curry: of course, you're he's back to smoking crack and
1:08:55
hookers is all it was, Oh, good. Good for him. So now this is
1:09:00
also a perfect opportunity to enact and try out some of the
1:09:06
new regulation in the European Union DSA, the digital services
1:09:11
agreement. Which Well, it's actually in this report. But
1:09:17
spoiler alert, if if you find if you're a platform and you find
1:09:22
hate speech, or disinformation, you have to remove it
1:09:27
immediately. letters went out letters went out to Elon Musk
1:09:30
letters went out to Mark Zuckerberg there's bad things on
1:09:33
your platform that will not stand in the European Union. As
1:09:36
violence
1:09:37
Unknown: rages in Israel and Gaza sued as fake news on social
1:09:40
media. The US making urgent appeal to big tech, in a letter
1:09:45
addressed and met a CEO Mark Zuckerberg on Wednesday. Anyway,
1:09:49
it's on the blocks industry chief urged the platform to do
1:09:51
more to curb disinformation or face penalties curb it comes a
1:09:56
day after Viton made a similar call to ex owner Elon Musk As
1:10:00
the source of the war social media networks have been awash
1:10:03
with graphic images and misinformation linked to the
1:10:05
violence, the fact checkers at Frost 24 They've been debunking
1:10:09
some of the forces under the aegis Digital Services Act, and
1:10:13
our social media platforms like x are obliged to stop the spread
1:10:17
of harmful content, or face fines of up to 6% of their
1:10:20
annual global revenue. Instead, experts say that x is algorithm
1:10:24
is actively promoting disinformation on the Israel
1:10:27
Hamas war. Favoring posts by accounts that pay for its blue
1:10:31
check subscription service, regardless of who runs them.
1:10:34
Users can receive payments under the scheme, giving them more
1:10:38
incentive to publish posts that are unlikely to elicit strong
1:10:41
reactions and go viral.
1:10:42
On a request for a comment made by CNBC a meta spokesperson,
1:10:46
spokesperson said we quickly established a special operations
1:10:50
center staffed with experts including fluent Hebrew and
1:10:52
Arabic speakers to monitor and respond to this rapidly evolving
1:10:56
situation. Our teams are working around the clock to keep our
1:11:00
platforms safe, take action on content that violates our
1:11:03
policies or local law and coordinate with third party fact
1:11:07
checkers in the region factual information. And there was also
1:11:11
a statement by ex CEO Linda Yakko. Reno shortly just a few
1:11:17
minutes ago, saying that shortly after the news broke about Hamas
1:11:20
attack X assembled leadership, a leadership group to assess the
1:11:24
situation. Since the terrorist attack on Israel, we've taken
1:11:28
action to remove or label 10s of 1000s of pieces of content. So
1:11:33
far since the start of the conflicts ex says it has
1:11:36
identified and removed hundreds of Hamas affiliated accounts
1:11:39
from their platform.
1:11:40
Adam Curry: Oh, of course, only Hamas has disinformation, we go
1:11:44
to our DSA dashboard. Last time we checked in with the DSA, the
1:11:49
Digital Services Act. We had about 67,000 takedowns an hour.
1:11:57
Do you care to wager what it's up to now? Joe? Quarter of a
1:12:03
million now not quite 137,630. Now 137,630? Yes, there we go.
1:12:13
per hour, over five hour per hour? Over 5 million takedowns a
1:12:20
day.
1:12:22
John C Dvorak: Others taking everything down?
1:12:25
Adam Curry: My point? Exactly. So what you are seeing is only
1:12:29
approved. It's only approved narrative. I think we can we can
1:12:36
easily presume that. So you're not getting anything from social
1:12:41
media.
1:12:42
John C Dvorak: You're getting nothing from the sounds of it.
1:12:43
If you're taking down 100 A quarter well, not a quarter of a
1:12:48
million to a million per hour. That's a lot of posts. That
1:12:54
means every eight hours a million posts are taken down.
1:12:57
It's a million posts a lot. It's an it's an eight hours and yet
1:13:02
24 hours is three. That's you know, it's 3 million a day. It's
1:13:07
ridiculous. Yeah. I know. So there too, so it has to be willy
1:13:15
nilly. Your way? Well, no,
1:13:18
Adam Curry: it's it's it's complaint from the government
1:13:21
take it down. Okay. Nothing has changed. Nothing has changed.
1:13:27
The I just I'd say the the agents are still inside of x.
1:13:32
And everywhere else. Platforms are no good. Although I do like
1:13:37
kind of the insinuation that, that x is the worst because they
1:13:41
pay people with blue checkmarks for for posts. If you know
1:13:46
that's the Yeah, the Twitter X
1:13:50
John C Dvorak: payments, pave eight bucks and you get a blue
1:13:53
checkmark.
1:13:53
Adam Curry: Yeah, but no, but then you can join their
1:13:56
monetization program. And yeah, if you get people commenting on
1:14:00
your post, and they're able to sell ads, boom, you get some
1:14:04
money.
1:14:05
John C Dvorak: I'm doing it
1:14:12
Adam Curry: that tell me this isn't an old story, just talking
1:14:15
about big tech for a second. Somehow I feel like this story
1:14:19
we've heard I couldn't find a clip but we've heard it before
1:14:21
Unknown: Amazon's Alexa has apparently been claiming the
1:14:24
2020 presidential election was stolen. The voice assistants
1:14:29
cites various sources when answering questions about the
1:14:32
election, including from a video streaming service popular with
1:14:35
conservatives called rumble. multiple investigations
1:14:39
uncovered no evidence of election fraud and Amazon says
1:14:42
for their part responses were errors delivered a small number
1:14:46
of times and quickly
1:14:47
fixed.
1:14:49
Adam Curry: Why do I think I've heard this
1:14:50
John C Dvorak: story before I never heard this story before.
1:14:54
Adam Curry: I'm used to it must be must be.
1:14:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you really have a memory for this and so
1:14:59
you should Have it maybe it floated arrive I was
1:15:02
Adam Curry: looking for a clip I could not find a clip. I do have
1:15:05
a couple quick big tech things unless you want to stay in in
1:15:08
the region.
1:15:09
John C Dvorak: We'll get to Hizbollah tap run down
1:15:13
Adam Curry: the region are we still stuck in the real region
1:15:15
the region in the region?
1:15:17
John C Dvorak: West Bank killing so this is kind of interesting
1:15:20
here. There's a shooting people in the West Bank, which got
1:15:22
nothing to do with Gaza. But okay. Where is it? It's just
1:15:29
war. West Bank.
1:15:33
Unknown: More Israeli settlers have killed at least four
1:15:35
Palestinians and attacks on the village south of Nablus in the
1:15:39
occupied West Bank. The Palestinian health ministry says
1:15:42
Israeli forces have also killed a 16 year old boy near Hebron.
1:15:46
29 Palestinians have been killed in the occupied West Bank since
1:15:50
the war began on Saturday.
1:15:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I was gonna body. The other one as I want to
1:15:58
play this. This is a protest for Palestinians in the EU and how
1:16:01
it kind of contrast with what we're doing here in the United
1:16:04
States.
1:16:05
Unknown: But French police in the city of Leon used force to
1:16:08
break up a demonstration in support of Palestinians on
1:16:11
Wednesday. It comes after a decision by city officials to
1:16:14
ban gatherings local activists had planned for later in the
1:16:17
week. Authorities in Paris have also imposed prohibitions on pro
1:16:21
Palestinian marches. French President Emmanuel Macron has
1:16:25
condemned Hamas as attack on Israel, but opposes stopping the
1:16:29
European Union's humanitarian assistance to Palestinians. Pro
1:16:34
Palestinian demonstrations have also been taking place in the
1:16:37
German capital Berlin with a large police presence. Melissa
1:16:42
Chan has more.
1:16:43
Police have just told everyone in the area to disperse they
1:16:46
have banned all Palestinian solidarity protests over the
1:16:50
next few days. Particularly in Germany, this is a touchy
1:16:55
subject because of the history of the country, the history of
1:16:58
World War Two and the Nazis the Holocaust, which means that the
1:17:01
German government and the German people, many of them consider
1:17:04
something as simple as waving the Palestinian flag as anti
1:17:08
semitic.
1:17:09
Just you know, this is always the flag and all German
1:17:15
arguments to denounce and actually persecute Palestinian
1:17:19
voices for the rights in Palestine
1:17:22
also have the right to do whatever they want. They have
1:17:25
been paying for 75 years and that's not okay.
1:17:28
Now over the next few days, emotions are going to run high.
1:17:30
There's also a big Israeli community here. And police say
1:17:34
one reason why they're banning protests is to prevent the two
1:17:36
sides from clashing. Melissa Chan, Al Jazeera
1:17:39
Adam Curry: Berlin. It's all it's all meant to Trump to
1:17:42
trigger trauma. And when
1:17:44
John C Dvorak: you're done that was your basic thesis and I
1:17:46
think you're ready. One last clip for this kind of thing.
1:17:49
There's the Democrats no support for Israel. Just from New Tang
1:17:52
Dynasty,
1:17:53
Unknown: some Democrats for your support for Israel among their
1:17:56
party might be waning. This comes as some lawmakers voiced
1:17:59
support for Palestine while others are distancing
1:18:02
themselves.
1:18:06
Some Democrats reportedly fear that members of their party
1:18:09
might stop supporting Israel sentiments in the US in the past
1:18:13
few days since the attacks were mostly pro Israel, however, that
1:18:17
might change. One unnamed Democratic lawmaker told
1:18:21
Politico for the last couple of days, we've seen all the
1:18:24
pictures of girls who were killed at this festival and the
1:18:27
children. The lawmaker says this will change now as the counter
1:18:30
offensive begins.
1:18:32
Adam Curry: Have you actually I've been honest, it is part of
1:18:35
research. I have looked Have you seen a lot of people killed at
1:18:38
the festival? I'm not disputing it. But have we actually seen
1:18:42
that I've seen
1:18:43
John C Dvorak: there's once there's one telegraph telegram
1:18:47
site that has all these pictures, it's it's pretty
1:18:50
elaborate, and it does hundreds and hundreds of pictures. But
1:18:53
specifically from that festival No, no, I've not seen anything
1:18:57
either.
1:18:57
Adam Curry: Because they just reported that they've that
1:19:00
they've seen that. And it's you know, it's like the base. Yeah,
1:19:04
I'm not disputing it, but but I have not seen the pictures. And
1:19:07
you and the newsletter you sent out was, but it was on point. It
1:19:12
will might
1:19:12
John C Dvorak: lie. I played up to the bullshit pictures and
1:19:17
somebody sent me I did get a note for somebody regarding that
1:19:20
girl that they kept showing over and over and over again to being
1:19:23
taken out of the back of a jeep and then being put in the front
1:19:26
of the Jeep
1:19:27
Adam Curry: which which which I saw MSNBC claiming she was raped
1:19:32
and she was bleeding like you have no evidence of that I when
1:19:35
I saw that first and I'm sorry that you know to bring up this
1:19:38
is traumatic to see it. It to me it looked like someone who
1:19:41
crapped their pants because they were so terrified. That's what
1:19:44
it looked like to me or any other many reasons but it was
1:19:49
presented as so
1:19:50
John C Dvorak: she could have been sitting in blood to foil
1:19:52
you know, it was presented as fact. No, and then they had this
1:19:56
guy who seemed to be in blackface for some reason. He
1:20:01
shoots a gun in the air, pulls her out of the back yells. Akbar
1:20:06
shoots a gun and then puts her in the in the seat in the comfy
1:20:10
seat. I mean, what was the point of this? And somebody sent a
1:20:14
note and saying this was a great news. This is low budget
1:20:17
filmmaking. He says it only cost them one bullet, you know, and a
1:20:21
day's pay for that a borrowed jeep. I mean, it's just it was
1:20:25
really kind of crummy.
1:20:28
Adam Curry: I can hear keyboards clicking don't send that email
1:20:31
to us. We're just we're just we're just looking at media and
1:20:35
trying to understand what the messaging is. Not we're not here
1:20:39
to bring you the truth of what actually happened. We don't have
1:20:43
it. Nobody does. Exactly. That's the point. But it's being
1:20:47
presented as fact. We'll continue with your clip here.
1:20:50
Unknown: The only images we're going to see for the next couple
1:20:53
of weeks are dead Palestinians. Earlier this year, a Gallup poll
1:20:57
found that Democrats opinions on Israel have changed
1:20:59
significantly. 49% of Democrats now say they sympathize more
1:21:03
with Palestine, while only 38% say they sympathize more with
1:21:07
Israel. That's the first time more Democrats have said their
1:21:10
sympathies are more with Palestine than with Israel. In
1:21:13
the 20 years the poll has been conducted. Another Democratic
1:21:16
lawmaker told Politico the key is making sure that the
1:21:19
sentiment doesn't grow and metastasize. Meanwhile,
1:21:23
Democratic Representative Rashida to leave is still flying
1:21:26
the Palestinian flag in front of her office, Republican
1:21:29
Congressman Max Miller commented on that saying the Palestinian
1:21:33
flag should not have a place here. That's why I sponsored an
1:21:36
appropriations amendment to end this silliness under the
1:21:40
amendment foreign flags couldn't be displayed on Capitol Hill
1:21:44
Adam Curry: no only pride flags, no problem with it the
1:21:48
John C Dvorak: same thing when I heard that, but they you know,
1:21:50
there's a little element here that was kind of not noticed by
1:21:55
anybody else, which is this this idea that they've been pulling
1:21:58
Democrats, and now the sympathy for the Israelis is down to 39%
1:22:03
and a sympathy for the Palestinians up to 49% This is a
1:22:07
switcheroo. And this may be part of the of the reason to do we're
1:22:13
going to bomb Iran. We got to do it now. Because this is not
1:22:17
going to go the it's not going to reverse direction. Yes, it's
1:22:23
clear trend.
1:22:24
Adam Curry: Yeah. That's, that's a good. You know, what also is
1:22:30
interesting with all these takedowns of misinformation. How
1:22:34
is it that I'm sure you've seen her? I didn't clip her. There's
1:22:37
the Israeli blonde Israeli woman, about 3540. Now must she
1:22:42
must be over 40 Who says 25 years ago, she was you know, in
1:22:48
service, she was specifically of course, all young people go into
1:22:52
service in Israel. Then she was in the intelligence division.
1:22:56
And she's just she's she's doing video after video. After a video
1:23:00
about how this couldn't happen. There's no way this was a setup.
1:23:04
This could never happen when she brought in the cat thing again.
1:23:07
Like you can you can sense a cat. You've got Brett Weinstein
1:23:13
interviewing her but yet she's allowed to continue explain
1:23:19
that. If she knows this information, why why is she
1:23:24
still on the air?
1:23:26
John C Dvorak: Just someone you would take off just because
1:23:30
Adam Curry: so yeah, and so that she just continues so you cannot
1:23:35
trust your social media.
1:23:36
John C Dvorak: Now the media social media. Tell it that all
1:23:42
media Yeah,
1:23:42
Adam Curry: but but people often are still like, oh, I can still
1:23:46
get all this on social media. Look, I got the proof. Telegram.
1:23:49
Wow, it's proof do you remember Yanis Varoufakis Oh, yeah,
1:23:58
whatever
1:23:58
John C Dvorak: happened to him? Well, he has a really good to
1:24:02
tell you about bringing up an old name yes. Yeah, it was one
1:24:05
of the first guys who was pushed to the curb kicked to the curb.
1:24:08
So this is
1:24:09
Adam Curry: when Greece was taken down by the US banks was a
1:24:13
Goldman and a couple others
1:24:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they the guy in the motorcycle Yes.
1:24:21
Remember it's not to get it's not the gay social media guy.
1:24:24
Another guy disappeared.
1:24:27
Unknown: You're thinking of the case.
1:24:31
John C Dvorak: Was that guy's name? It wasn't conservative
1:24:34
with the blonde Yeah, but social media guy got kicked to the curb
1:24:37
that guy No, this is he was rough and tumble leather wearing
1:24:42
bike riding American I think you
1:24:46
Adam Curry: know history. He's Greek mile. You're thinking of
1:24:48
Yo yo,
1:24:50
John C Dvorak: Milo now that did this. This great guy ended up at
1:24:53
the University of Texas I think tape teaching economics, Disney
1:24:56
Adam Curry: while he's an economics. He's an economist
1:24:59
economics. Feser and when Greek Greece was being thrust into
1:25:05
austerity, and we covered all this 2010, I want to say, so
1:25:08
it's quite a while ago. And the Greeks, they, what happened is,
1:25:14
the bank said, Hey, we're calling in our loan, how you can
1:25:17
pay for it, austerity for you. And all of the Northern Europe
1:25:21
hated
1:25:22
John C Dvorak: this. This was right after the Greeks decided
1:25:25
to join the Euros, which is their biggest mistake.
1:25:29
Adam Curry: And people even go into Greek restaurants in like
1:25:33
Holland and say, I'm not paying, because you screwed us. You
1:25:36
stole our money. It was horrible. So then this guy who
1:25:40
and he's a, he's a Marxist, he admits his I'm a socialist, I'm
1:25:43
a Marxist. But he called he says, in the traditional sense
1:25:46
of the word, whatever that means, whatever that means. And
1:25:49
he became the minister of finance for six months. And all
1:25:54
he did is he just said, no, no more loans. We're not taking any
1:25:57
more loans, which was probably a good thing for Greece. And then
1:26:01
his party got kicked out and he got kicked out and get kicked
1:26:04
out. And, and now, you know, all the wealth is in the north in
1:26:08
the south of Greece. They're driving around and Lamborghinis.
1:26:11
And the rest of Greece is just crap. What you get, that's how
1:26:15
it works. They are the ugly stepchild. So Yiannis resurfaces
1:26:21
with a very interesting book I've been reading called techno
1:26:24
feudalism. And it kind of folds into, you know, these platforms.
1:26:29
And he says that capitalism is in essence, over, because
1:26:36
capitalism is now slave to cloud capitalism. And that is all
1:26:42
Silicon Valley based, that does not exist anywhere else except
1:26:46
China. China does have WeChat, that is the big, the big
1:26:51
competitor to the cloud capitalists here in the US. And
1:26:55
he has a one minute. He's doing interviews all over YouTube. And
1:26:59
I've been fascinated by a lot of what he's saying, I don't agree
1:27:02
with all of it, of course. But this idea, this concept was
1:27:06
something I think we should, we should think about as we see the
1:27:10
world unfold, certainly with secret meetings about AI and all
1:27:14
that crap.
1:27:15
Unknown: But what does happen is, if you're Jeff Bezos, if you
1:27:18
are the owner of Google, of Apple, of if you're Elon Musk,
1:27:23
then you own this new form of cloud capital, which allows you
1:27:29
to extract from the rest of society from proletarians. But
1:27:34
from everyone else, as well, huge quantities of rents and
1:27:38
surpluses in a manner that reconsidered is a form of
1:27:43
feudalism. The difference is that instead of the original
1:27:47
feudalism, which is a system based on private ownership of
1:27:51
land, which produces rent, now, it's private ownership of the
1:27:55
clouds of cloud capital, because the cloud is capital, right?
1:27:58
It's not some clouds up in the sky in the sky, which yields
1:28:01
again, a form of rent every time you buy something from
1:28:03
amazon.com 40% of what you pay, doesn't go to the capitalist, we
1:28:09
selling you that stuff. It goes to Jeff Bezos, that's a cloud
1:28:11
rent and he is a new form of feudal lord.
1:28:15
I kind of agree with that. Yeah,
1:28:18
John C Dvorak: well, I sure don't, you don't know. It all
1:28:22
goes to Jeff Bezos off.
1:28:24
Adam Curry: I mean, to me, of course, is not the Bezos but he
1:28:26
said it's a public company. But But Amazon, you know that people
1:28:31
have a very hard time really making profit on Amazon. The
1:28:35
same thing for Apple, if you want to sell an app 30% You want
1:28:38
a subscription of something? 30% This is why you can't buy a
1:28:41
Kindle through the app. on Apple, they are charging rents
1:28:46
for their platforms. It's true.
1:28:50
John C Dvorak: It's not saying that that's not true.
1:28:52
Adam Curry: Forget about the beat down. That's just it's like
1:28:55
John C Dvorak: minor. I mean, it's like it's like one element
1:28:59
of the DIS stamp. So this whole idea of what does he call it
1:29:02
kind of capitalism, techno feudalism, techno feudalism that
1:29:08
this harkens back to the book called surveillance capitalism
1:29:13
was different little different. I don't think it's that much
1:29:16
different. It was it's the same kind of condemnation of tech,
1:29:20
from a perspective of like, well, these guys have made the
1:29:23
money that I didn't get to make. It's just kind of a jealous
1:29:26
mode. Dang, I'm not buying any of it.
1:29:31
Adam Curry: I think Spotify tried to do this with
1:29:34
podcasting.
1:29:35
John C Dvorak: And that's where they got so far they got, but
1:29:38
that's because of
1:29:39
Adam Curry: one special thing. The ragtag band of developers at
1:29:43
podcast index. We wanted their plan single.
1:29:49
John C Dvorak: How much effort did it take to thwart their
1:29:52
plan? Not much.
1:29:55
Adam Curry: Work. Google inherited
1:29:57
John C Dvorak: the billions that those guys dropped. Google was
1:30:00
Not much. And
1:30:01
Adam Curry: that's only well, because of RSS. Google is still
1:30:03
trying. They're trying to try and keep trying to talk
1:30:06
everybody into into YouTube.
1:30:09
John C Dvorak: This is another anti capitalist screed
1:30:12
definitely heard it before, from a different angle.
1:30:19
Adam Curry: Anyway, just one quick. So my feeling in general
1:30:24
is that this is what somebody wants to try and do with AI. And
1:30:29
I've listened to the whole interview with Sam Altman and
1:30:33
Joe Rogan. Sam Altman is full of crap. All he says is just AGI it
1:30:40
will probably be about, you know, three decades. Oh, okay.
1:30:44
Well, we're once Yeah, it's just they'd be a 30 years we might
1:30:47
have autonomous generative AI, you know, we'll have
1:30:54
John C Dvorak: getting closer to the truth,
1:30:55
Adam Curry: but even then, I mean, it's like, no, none of
1:31:00
this is happening now. It's all bull.
1:31:03
John C Dvorak: Well, let me bring us to real bullshit
1:31:05
artists. Please. You have to go into the last week's archives to
1:31:10
get three clips.
1:31:11
Adam Curry: Is it under bullshit? No,
1:31:14
John C Dvorak: this should be no This is Maria. ReSSA
1:31:17
Adam Curry: okay. Oh, yes. on PBS. Oh, you got a three parter.
1:31:22
I'm excited.
1:31:24
John C Dvorak: If you want to hear somebody who doesn't know
1:31:26
what they're talking about,
1:31:28
Adam Curry: this is PBS. This is great. I love the going on with
1:31:31
that
1:31:31
John C Dvorak: black the new black anchor that's there who's
1:31:34
just seems like a dummy is this seems I was gay or the guy.
1:31:40
Yeah, that guy seems like a dumb gay guy to me.
1:31:43
Adam Curry: And I couldn't be there the worst John said.
1:31:47
John C Dvorak: They're the worst. It's a smart gay guys. So
1:31:53
this guy's lapping it up. And as you can see it in his eyes. He's
1:31:57
got this look of Oh my God. Oh, we're all gonna die.
1:32:00
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on. Let's let's make sure we have America.
1:32:05
This is NPR or PBS
1:32:08
Unknown: veteran journalist and past Nobel Peace Prize winner
1:32:11
Maria ReSSA has a dire warning about the defense of truth in
1:32:15
the digital age. She says we risk losing the information war
1:32:19
to adversarial artificial intelligence and to
1:32:22
authoritarian governments who can weaponize that technology.
1:32:25
And she's experienced it firsthand. In 2021, she won the
1:32:29
Nobel Prize for fighting to protect freedom of expression in
1:32:32
the Philippines under attack by the regime of then President
1:32:35
Rodrigo de terre Tae Jeff Bennett spoke with rest of this
1:32:38
week at the inaugural summit of the newly launched Institute of
1:32:41
global politics at Columbia University.
1:32:44
Reesa. Thank you so much for speaking with us. I appreciate
1:32:47
it. Thanks for having you have said the world faces a tech
1:32:49
enabled Armageddon turbocharged by generative artificial
1:32:53
intelligence. Invoking Armageddon sort of the final
1:32:56
battle between good and evil might strike some people as a,
1:33:00
as an overreach, it might strike some people as being hyperbolic.
1:33:04
But why in your view, is that an accurate characterization?
1:33:07
I've lived through this. You know, I never thought I would
1:33:10
get 10 Arrest warrants in a little over a year, right? I
1:33:13
never thought I would have to go to jail. I never thought that we
1:33:16
would tear apart our shared reality and doubt facts, and the
1:33:21
lies could spread faster than facts. MIT's 2018 Study shows
1:33:26
lie spread six times faster. And that has turned everything
1:33:30
upside down. Tech enabled Armageddon, and Rappler the
1:33:33
organization I read in the Philippines we've been fighting
1:33:35
for our survival since 2016.
1:33:38
Adam Curry: Now Wayman, did she get arrested by an AI that he
1:33:43
John C Dvorak: liked that make you believe that no, she got
1:33:45
arrested because she was a dissident in in the turkey under
1:33:49
the turret day when he was running things and he was like,
1:33:51
putting everyone in jail and so she got arrested and fought the
1:33:54
government or something and he gets ended up here he's gone. So
1:33:58
she said okay, well Nobel Peace Prize for being a do gooder. And
1:34:02
now she's an expert on AI with no tech background whatsoever.
1:34:06
So what
1:34:07
Adam Curry: she's doing is she's equating AI with a with a
1:34:11
dictator. Yeah, who makes unintelligent decisions?
1:34:17
John C Dvorak: I guess.
1:34:18
Unknown: The fact that we were still
1:34:21
John C Dvorak: not you brought that up. Why is she on this
1:34:24
show? being interviewed by PBS breathlessly that's what I'd
1:34:28
like to know. Oh, come on. An expert.
1:34:31
Adam Curry: Doesn't matter. Who isn't. Who is the expert on AI?
1:34:36
Elon, well, she's not they can't get Elon Musk. Sam Altman. He's
1:34:40
boring. He's boring. Well, this
1:34:43
John C Dvorak: girl is kind of boring.
1:34:44
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, here we go.
1:34:46
Unknown: The fact that we were still here shows you that doing
1:34:50
the right thing is the right thing. But it's going to get
1:34:55
worse. So the first time that you had,
1:34:58
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, the revenue ation of doing the right
1:35:01
thing is the right thing. It is the right
1:35:03
John C Dvorak: thing, and it's gonna get worse. You bet
1:35:05
Unknown: it's going to get worse. So the
1:35:09
John C Dvorak: not You bet.
1:35:10
Adam Curry: Oh, I cannot believe it. The jury will disregard my
1:35:17
bet it's Yep. Yep, had
1:35:18
Unknown: humanity con. First contact with AI is really
1:35:22
machine learning when everything that you post on social media.
1:35:25
So this is social media, right? Everything you post is pulled
1:35:28
together by machine learning. And then that's used to build a
1:35:31
model of you that knows you better than you know yourself.
1:35:34
Replace the word model with clone. So we're cloned, then AI
1:35:38
comes in and takes all of our clones, puts it together in a
1:35:42
mother lode database. That's what's used to my does Oracle
1:35:45
Adam Curry: make that the mother lode database is that I think
1:35:49
mother lode database
1:35:50
John C Dvorak: is a great name for a product.
1:35:54
Adam Curry: You've heard of Ms. SQL, this is the mother lode
1:35:57
database, puts it together
1:35:59
Unknown: in a mother lode database, that's what's used to
1:36:02
micro target. micro targeting is not the same as media
1:36:06
advertising,
1:36:07
Adam Curry: that she's literally describing data brokers, it
1:36:10
already exists, lady, it's not AI,
1:36:12
Unknown: media advertising, you see the same things, right? But
1:36:15
micro targeting sells your weakest moment to a message to
1:36:19
someone who will pay for it. And that could be a company or that
1:36:23
could be a government. Right? Right? That right? Not just you.
1:36:26
And when it becomes relentless, it becomes Information
1:36:31
Operations. Those vulnerabilities in the tech
1:36:35
platforms have been exploited by geopolitical power your America
1:36:40
in 20 1600 26 million Americans were impacted were touch by
1:36:46
Russia, Russia and information works.
1:36:51
Adam Curry: Nice. Oh, my goodness, this is all these
1:36:57
platforms are gonna suck. Everything's gonna suck.
1:37:02
mastered
1:37:03
John C Dvorak: the idea of micro targeting, which is you know,
1:37:06
targeted advertising. Hello, 98 Hello, right Hello 1970 For that
1:37:12
matter way I first
1:37:13
Adam Curry: I'm gonna get my milk is going to be ordered the
1:37:15
minutes out in my fridge, it's going to be so smart the world
1:37:18
would be groovy micro targeting.
1:37:22
John C Dvorak: So she's bringing this back to the 2022 era. And
1:37:27
it's just unbelievable to me that this is being played on.
1:37:31
PBS should be ashamed of itself. For letting this woman ramble
1:37:35
like this. She's not saying anything that means anything.
1:37:38
This is all bullshit.
1:37:40
Unknown: You know, there are US officials, there are tech
1:37:42
leaders who have said that the future of this country looks
1:37:46
fairly bleak if China finds a way to develop AI technology
1:37:50
faster than we do. So how do we on the one hand, continue to
1:37:54
innovate, but on the other hand, implement solutions that don't
1:37:59
strangle the innovation that we're trying to unleash.
1:38:02
Ironically, China, which is far from Democratic, has put
1:38:07
guardrails in place around that. Yes. And they're large language
1:38:11
models, right? Right. While America says that
1:38:14
Adam Curry: just just to say, on their large language models,
1:38:18
right, it's like telling me, we all agree, China has large
1:38:22
language models, they put it
1:38:24
John C Dvorak: down and they put guard rails around it in the
1:38:26
mother lode. Now, a journalist would be sitting there would
1:38:31
say, Well, what specifically are those guardrails and how do they
1:38:34
work?
1:38:36
Adam Curry: What are you You don't think that that's going to
1:38:38
come out of PBS as a question to you.
1:38:41
John C Dvorak: I think at some in some future world maybe
1:38:46
Adam Curry: this we need to write we asked world breed need
1:38:49
a list of all these AI bullcrap words that Sam Alban,
1:38:53
guardrails, guardrails? Yeah, like the guard rails guard
1:38:56
rails? Yeah, guard rails, they really were. Yeah, that's a good
1:38:59
point. What are the guard rails?
1:39:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what are they and how do they work?
1:39:04
Because it doesn't make sense to even say that.
1:39:09
Unknown: has put guard rails in place around that, right? Yes,
1:39:12
yeah. On their large language models, right, right.
1:39:15
Adam Curry: No, no, no evidence, no stories on or anything about
1:39:19
this guardrails around their large language models right in
1:39:22
the mother lode database.
1:39:23
Unknown: While America says that remember, these companies are
1:39:27
driven by profit, surveillance capitalism. Large language
1:39:33
models will have the ability to mimic you, it mimics humanity.
1:39:38
And when that happens, it also doesn't tell you it lies. It
1:39:43
looks for patterns. It doesn't necessarily find meaning. That's
1:39:48
what we've lost here. And if you look at the two ways aI have
1:39:52
touched us, the first time it exploited our fear, anger and
1:39:57
hate.
1:39:59
Adam Curry: I'm going to agree It mimics humanity. It lies.
1:40:02
Yeah, cuz we're all liars. Of course. This is no this is not
1:40:06
great, man.
1:40:08
John C Dvorak: Okay did lie without having AI. Yeah.
1:40:13
Adam Curry: I was looking at photos. Where's it here? I put
1:40:18
it in the show
1:40:18
John C Dvorak: notes at the end of that clip.
1:40:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was the other clip.
1:40:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah it went on there was there was telling
1:40:24
people you want to go look it up here.
1:40:25
Adam Curry: Let me see there's this Associated Press Photo. Man
1:40:30
it was of a black lives matter. protest. And it's completely AI
1:40:38
there's people with six fingers. There's there's a guy in the
1:40:41
background whose eyes like bulging and all blurred into his
1:40:45
Hey,
1:40:45
John C Dvorak: love the bulging eyes, it's
1:40:47
Adam Curry: been, it's the six finger thing. It's just it's not
1:40:50
going away. AI is just not great. Show me a picture with
1:40:54
well, it should be four fingers on the thumb. But you know what
1:40:57
I'm saying? It's not it's just not great. It's people are
1:41:05
people fall for it. I'm telling you that I am going to I'm going
1:41:09
to save the world for 3% of the people will be saved by our
1:41:12
systems that we create with RSS. Just 3% and everyone else is
1:41:17
going to be a bloody good number that's about and that's about
1:41:21
what I think I can save. Is that good enough for a Nobel Peace
1:41:24
Prize?
1:41:27
John C Dvorak: Well, we had to exaggerate the lie. AI does have
1:41:32
to lie, to lie, but we can manage it.
1:41:35
Adam Curry: Here's an example of a human being lying. This is a
1:41:38
great example. This is again Rear Admiral Kirby. And he is
1:41:45
asked a question about the President's thinking. But he's
1:41:50
very clear in his obvious lie.
1:41:53
Unknown: I want to play this soundbite for you that is just
1:41:55
last month and Vietnam and ask you if this still holds for the
1:42:00
President watch. The only existential
1:42:04
threat humanity faces even more frightening than nuclear war. is
1:42:11
global warming going above 1.5 degrees in the next 2010 years.
1:42:16
Given all the nuclear players in these two areas where we are now
1:42:20
engaged on does the President stand by that comment?
1:42:22
Absolutely does climate change is an existential threat, it
1:42:26
actually threatens and is capable wiping out all human
1:42:30
life on Earth. Time. I mean, that's
1:42:34
Adam Curry: global warming climate change is in competition
1:42:37
with AI who's going to kill us faster
1:42:39
Unknown: human life on earth over time. I mean, that's I
1:42:42
don't know how more existential, you get to that. But that
1:42:45
doesn't mean that we walk away from our obligations, or our
1:42:47
national security interests in very dangerous parts of the
1:42:50
time.
1:42:51
He said it was more frightening than a nuclear war, is that it's
1:42:56
more frightening than a nuclear war in this moment.
1:43:00
The President believes wholeheartedly that climate
1:43:03
change is an existential threat to the all human life on the
1:43:06
planet. That's just science. That's a fact, Martha Beck on
1:43:10
the other challenges facing this country and our allies and
1:43:13
partners around the world,
1:43:14
Adam Curry: that's just science and focus,
1:43:16
John C Dvorak: tip of the day for that peace.
1:43:19
Adam Curry: Just science, in fact, Martha, that's all but it
1:43:22
is. I don't like that you disparage my clip that way, but
1:43:26
I'll take the award. Thank you. And the fact that her name is
1:43:31
Martha makes it better. That's just science. In fact, Martha
1:43:35
John C Dvorak: teaches science in fact, wrong. It's just
1:43:39
science, in fact that we're all gonna die from global warming.
1:43:42
Adam Curry: We're not because we're going to save the world.
1:43:45
No, we're gonna save the world with carbon credits and right on
1:43:48
cue as predicted on the wait, wait,
1:43:52
John C Dvorak: carbon credits, does that change the mnemonic
1:43:54
carbon is released?
1:43:56
Adam Curry: Why are you trying to be difficult? Just sit back
1:43:59
and relax and take the propaganda. Do you remember I
1:44:04
had the clips from the big climate change conference in in
1:44:08
Africa. And they were talking about land being carbon sink. So
1:44:14
you know, if you own a piece of land in Africa, you can turn
1:44:19
that into a carbon credit.
1:44:21
John C Dvorak: Yum. Well, what is
1:44:23
Adam Curry: the United Arab Emirates has inked a deal to buy
1:44:27
a fifth? That's 20% of Zimbabwe's land, four carbon
1:44:32
credits. This is great. 7.5 million hectares
1:44:39
John C Dvorak: is one born every minute.
1:44:42
Adam Curry: What is 7.5 million hectares is a hectare. It's
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: about 14 acres. 14 acres and LinkedIn I think is
1:44:51
up to date tickets. It's like for two acres proximately two a
1:44:54
hectare.
1:44:57
Adam Curry: So there it is. I'll look it up. The flurry so it's
1:45:01
Oh, it's okay. The global $2 billion Voluntary Carbon Offset
1:45:06
market allows carbon emitters to offset emissions by purchasing
1:45:11
credits from emission reducing projects primarily in forest
1:45:15
conservation. So
1:45:18
John C Dvorak: I'm okay hectares 2.47 acres.
1:45:21
Adam Curry: So if I have three acres here could I turn that
1:45:24
into a carbon credit? Yeah, how much? Not much but I could Chem
1:45:29
bucks it's like a Bitcoin
1:45:32
John C Dvorak: I don't think it's worth a Bitcoin No, but
1:45:34
Adam Curry: it's like a Bitcoin you just you just say well, I do
1:45:37
I got this I got this stuff. Oh,
1:45:39
John C Dvorak: yeah, you make it Yeah. But everyone get for it.
1:45:42
And if
1:45:42
Adam Curry: I plant a tree, another carbon credit and your
1:45:45
gold we should have been doing this a long time ago. We really
1:45:50
should have
1:45:54
John C Dvorak: the bank money in the bank.
1:45:56
Adam Curry: So very sad isn't we should take a break but very sad
1:45:59
for this next person. This although, boy timing is
1:46:06
everything. This this 911 10 times worse than 911, which is
1:46:14
almost as bad as January 6 could not have come at a worst time
1:46:17
for this announcement, a new curveball
1:46:19
Unknown: in the race for president to declare myself an
1:46:23
independent ganda. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Leaving the
1:46:28
Democratic Party to run as an independent
1:46:32
Adam Curry: What are you drinking?
1:46:34
John C Dvorak: It's the polar just a plain polar seltzer get a
1:46:37
few more cans of this left
1:46:39
Adam Curry: because I opened one earlier you didn't you didn't
1:46:42
mention here it oh, I'm drinking a source Perrier lime. From the
1:46:47
camp
1:46:48
John C Dvorak: lime ladies and gentlemen, very you know if
1:46:51
anyone can find a blue bottles of Perrier lightly carbonated
1:46:56
tastes just like low bad to wipe my favorite sparkling beverage?
1:47:00
Oh
1:47:00
Adam Curry: no Budweiser like boudoir. Like big bad dua. No,
1:47:04
no be de Lobi day.
1:47:06
John C Dvorak: I don't want to drink low bid day.
1:47:10
Adam Curry: The Democrats are frightened that I'm gonna spoil
1:47:12
the election for President Biden and the Republicans are
1:47:15
frightened that I'm gonna spoil it for President Trump. The
1:47:21
truth is, they're both right.
1:47:24
Unknown: Back in April, he
1:47:25
launched a longshot bid for the Democratic nomination. But his
1:47:28
position on vaccines and abortion were out of the party's
1:47:31
mainstream his own siblings denouncing his run as an
1:47:35
independent saying Bobby might share the same name as our
1:47:38
father but he does not share the same values vision or judgment.
1:47:42
We denounce his candidacy and believe it to be perilous for
1:47:45
our country.
1:47:46
denounce him.
1:47:48
John C Dvorak: denounce your own you know, what are your own
1:47:51
members of your own family? It's disgusting
1:47:53
Adam Curry: was pretty bad. But this is not good for it. I mean,
1:47:57
John C Dvorak: the timing sodomy is horrible, but this is also
1:48:00
done this like a week ago or maybe a month from now? It
1:48:04
wouldn't it wouldn't have mattered by the way. I was gonna
1:48:06
say that report indicates that he was thwarted. They did
1:48:10
without going into any details. There hasn't even doesn't been
1:48:14
the Democratic Convention yet. There hasn't been any primaries.
1:48:17
Adam Curry: Well, he he can't get in. He can't he can't even
1:48:20
get in the primary lock
1:48:22
John C Dvorak: him out is what she should what she should have
1:48:24
said yes, I locked him
1:48:25
Adam Curry: out. Eyes. I mean, there's still a lot of time a
1:48:30
lot of things can happen. But I see no reason why the military
1:48:35
industrial complex, the financial, which is same as the
1:48:39
financial complex. Maybe this is why Steve Steve Scalise Vegas
1:48:44
possibly can become the new Speaker of the House.
1:48:47
John C Dvorak: We that was my assertion to him was your
1:48:49
assertion. It was yours. But you know, hey, you
1:48:51
Adam Curry: know he's got cancer. Wow, we can't have that
1:48:53
guy with cancer. Well get rid of Raskin then to come on. This is
1:48:59
what kind of acts we kind of that's that's probably the one
1:49:01
of the most demoralizing things you can say. Hey, ma'am. I'm
1:49:06
sorry. You can't run because you got cancer. I mean, people
1:49:11
survive. People live with him. Just an Marjorie Taylor Greene.
1:49:19
Notice my voice going up when I say your name, Marjorie Taylor.
1:49:22
But you do that all the time with Marjorie Taylor Greene why
1:49:24
she do it up? Oh, no, no, no, he's got cancer. Oh, no, we
1:49:29
can't have him do he might die before he can sign more money
1:49:32
for Ukraine and Israel?
1:49:34
John C Dvorak: Well, they have to put him in my thesis because
1:49:37
he's all pro giving more money to Ukraine. Yet while he was
1:49:40
marginally, Marjorie, Democrats should put him in. I mean, it
1:49:44
just takes like 50 of them to say yeah, and the whole thing
1:49:48
goes through
1:49:49
Adam Curry: how much do you think? So I I think that 24
1:49:52
billion for Ukraine. I mean, the public money, right? This is
1:49:56
just the stuff that they'll tell us. I think that will now have
1:49:59
to move to 50 And I think Israel, I think we go to 400
1:50:04
billion, just for starters.
1:50:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's too much. They don't need that much
1:50:09
money down there for Iran. Well, no, Ron's different. If that
1:50:14
happens, then they have to start putting money down there.
1:50:16
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what it's for. That'd be great. And
1:50:20
who do we actually need to take out? What do we need to do in
1:50:22
Iran to
1:50:23
John C Dvorak: Toy need to low flying jets and Hello, flying
1:50:28
jets and bombs and there's a neighborhood where all the
1:50:30
mullahs live is known fact they live in these mansions in some
1:50:34
kind of walled garden neighborhood. And you just go in
1:50:37
there and bomb all their houses and then fly back and say, I
1:50:40
don't know what happened. You just
1:50:41
Adam Curry: hired you just got us fired as the courier Devorah
1:50:44
Consulting Group. This is not the right answer. How do we get
1:50:47
real money out of it? Some real
1:50:49
John C Dvorak: Whoa, yeah, there's not real money to do
1:50:51
well. Yeah, good question. Good point.
1:50:56
Adam Curry: It's not cheap to send a aircraft carrier down
1:51:00
there.
1:51:01
John C Dvorak: No, that's expensive. It's very expensive,
1:51:03
and they're gonna send another group. I don't have the clip.
1:51:06
But somebody else came on one of the shows another action arm. Of
1:51:11
course, he says, yeah, and they got to another group going in
1:51:14
and reported jumped on him and go, what this is news jet. Tell
1:51:18
me more. And they gave him no bah bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.
1:51:23
That's good. That's good. It was pretty funny.
1:51:27
Adam Curry: So the other scandal what was the other scandal wiped
1:51:30
from the front pages? So many people benefit from this? Never
1:51:33
let a crisis go to waste. Menendez. Menendez don't even
1:51:41
Don't talk about him anymore. Bob Menendez and his corruption
1:51:44
scandal,
1:51:45
John C Dvorak: though he's a total criminal.
1:51:47
Adam Curry: Well, do you remember what I said?
1:51:51
John C Dvorak: No, I do not.
1:51:52
Adam Curry: I said his wife is the problem. Yes, you
1:51:55
John C Dvorak: did say that. I remember that.
1:51:57
Unknown: This is the second time he's been indicted in the last
1:51:59
eight years and report suggests that Menendez his wife played a
1:52:03
major role in his murky deals. Menendez med he's Armenian
1:52:09
American while studying ARSLANIAN at a restaurant in
1:52:12
2018 and got married in 2020. Prosecutors claim she played a
1:52:16
key role in collecting hundreds of 1000s of dollars worth of
1:52:19
bribes from three New Jersey businessmen seeking help from
1:52:23
the powerful lawmaker. Her role was so vital that she was the
1:52:26
one who introduced Menendez to parties connected to the
1:52:29
Egyptian government. According to the indictment document. The
1:52:32
filing also states that Nadine was unemployed before they met
1:52:35
but the following year, she incorporated a new consulting
1:52:38
company strategic international business consultants LLC. After
1:52:42
their marriage in 2020. She came into possession of a large
1:52:45
amount of gold. She later sold some of the bars for between
1:52:48
200,000 to $400,000, according to the senators financial
1:52:52
disclosure reports. Now here's a bit of context, Menendez was the
1:52:59
chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee until the
1:53:02
investigation became public. That post gave him a lot of
1:53:05
influence in US foreign policy. This is where wire Hannah comes
1:53:09
in. Nadine and Hannah were friends for years before her
1:53:12
marriage to Menendez. According to the indictment, Hannah helped
1:53:15
arrange meetings and dinners between Menendez, Nadine and
1:53:18
Egyptian military and intelligence officials. This was
1:53:21
part of a covert initiative aimed at using the Senator's
1:53:24
influence to boost US aid to Egypt. After one of these
1:53:28
meetings in 2018, Menendez texted his wife telling her to
1:53:32
inform her that he would sign off and a multimillion dollar
1:53:35
weapons sale to Egypt.
1:53:37
Adam Curry: Menendez should not be impeached for corruption but
1:53:40
for being an idiot this woman snookered him in
1:53:46
John C Dvorak: you know, I don't know that this is really what
1:53:48
this sounds to me like you're putting out a story that
1:53:52
parallels the Biden story with his son you it's his fault. And
1:53:59
I think that's a judgment puts in my mind I have a clip. New
1:54:03
bad stuff about Biden,
1:54:05
Adam Curry: Biden, hey, screw the war in Israel. We've got the
1:54:08
Biden and Menendez stuff for you right here.
1:54:11
Unknown: You record show that President Biden was involved in
1:54:14
his son and brother's businesses as vice president, America first
1:54:17
Lego published the records from the National Archives following
1:54:21
a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. National Archives
1:54:25
Records show that then Vice President Biden's office
1:54:28
exchanged over 19,000 emails with Hunter Biden's is missed
1:54:32
confirm Rosemont Seneca over 4000 emails with Hunter Biden
1:54:36
himself over 1700 emails with his brother James Biden, and
1:54:40
over 3700 emails was James Biden's lie in whole group.
1:54:44
Biden has previously claimed he was not involved in his son and
1:54:48
brothers business dealings. America first legal said on X
1:54:51
today, quote, There was extensive commingling between
1:54:55
them. The House Oversight Committee which has been
1:54:57
investigating the Biden's family business dealings is also
1:55:00
commented saying Biden's statement quote doesn't match
1:55:04
his track record
1:55:10
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. You know, I don't think anyone can say that
1:55:15
they don't feel much better after just listening to this to
1:55:18
this hour and 50 minutes of the no agenda show. I mean, you're
1:55:23
not I hope so you're not all spun up you're not all worried
1:55:26
about tomorrow. Tomorrow all it's gonna be attacks everywhere
1:55:29
in America tomorrow. Yeah,
1:55:31
John C Dvorak: we're going to be attacked any minute today. These
1:55:33
guys are going to come in with you know, somehow they're going
1:55:35
to swim over.
1:55:37
Adam Curry: Now they're coming across the border. Coming right
1:55:39
up to
1:55:40
John C Dvorak: the Bahamas. How do you get to Mexico without
1:55:42
swimming by
1:55:43
Adam Curry: coming right up through Fredericksburg. No.
1:55:46
Stopping when you
1:55:47
John C Dvorak: see him? Yeah, well, you mentioned that you
1:55:51
were we're talking about some buddy wanted to send us some
1:55:54
clips from somebody we won't even mentioned his name. A guy
1:55:58
who is a well respected or not well respected but a well
1:56:04
followed. Guy as on the on the YouTube and everyplace else and,
1:56:10
and I said that we don't play this guy's clip. Charlie Kirk.
1:56:14
Oh, that's who it was Charlie Kirk. And you said well, he just
1:56:18
came into Canterbury gave us beach and they got all the local
1:56:23
women all jacked up.
1:56:26
Adam Curry: We were supposed to go. But I don't it's something
1:56:29
that somehow that didn't happen. And it was a I think it was to
1:56:33
raise money for the Tea Party, which I guess still exist. And
1:56:40
brother, so I don't know. And I have nothing against Charlie
1:56:43
Kirk. Personally, he's probably
1:56:45
John C Dvorak: he's he's a very easy, very sharp, very sharp
1:56:48
guy.
1:56:48
Adam Curry: But everybody everybody came back so riled up.
1:56:52
There's Oh, ha ha.
1:56:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I've heard some of his stuff he gets it
1:56:58
says like he does it on purpose. He gets people's like you said
1:57:01
spun up. Yeah. And this is not this is not good. We're like
1:57:06
Xanax.
1:57:11
Unknown: Amen.
1:57:13
Adam Curry: With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage in
1:57:15
the morning to you the man who put the season in the Christ
1:57:17
caulk ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other
1:57:19
end one only Mr. John Cena
1:57:26
John C Dvorak: Morning Mr. Schiff see boots on the ground
1:57:29
feet in the air subs in the water. And all the games and
1:57:31
nights out there in the morning to
1:57:33
Unknown: the trolls and the troll Joe can be counted around
1:57:39
Adam Curry: 2074 2000 Write that down to 1000s I have a notebook
1:57:44
I
1:57:44
John C Dvorak: 2074. Yeah,
1:57:46
Adam Curry: 2074 Trolls. That's up. And N and we're almost two
1:57:51
hours in. We know what it is. This is what happens people like
1:57:55
man, I'm all spun up. Maybe the boys will
1:57:58
John C Dvorak: spit me down this slow you down a slow you down.
1:58:02
Adam Curry: I mean, there's nothing like John saying that he
1:58:04
prefers the smart gay guys. I mean, come on. That's common
1:58:06
people. That's the kind of comedy The no agenda show
1:58:09
delivers to you.
1:58:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, everybody prefers the smart guys.
1:58:14
Adam Curry: Now, don't rely on the platforms. If you want to
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no agenda. social.com Oh, man, people are mad at me. I'm afraid
1:58:46
to even mention anybody. Well, the last show I said, this guy,
1:58:52
I'm not going to mention his name because again, we all get
1:58:54
angry. Let's admit you progressive nights sloughed and
1:58:59
sad, you know, he posted this screenshot. And I said, Hey,
1:59:03
man, how about a link? This is not helpful. And then Oh, yeah.
1:59:06
You
1:59:06
John C Dvorak: said you do that which is common. You do that
1:59:08
constantly.
1:59:09
Adam Curry: And he's like, Well, this is also the guy that claims
1:59:12
that we never talk about Julian Assange and it's there's reasons
1:59:17
I find it interesting. You don't talk about Julian Assange. Mm
1:59:20
Hmm Hmm. Hmm. It's one of these guys. Then he and I will not
1:59:30
stop posting until you apologize. I don't know what the
1:59:33
heck he was talking about. And I didn't realize that we were here
1:59:38
to work for you. Said the man with a free account. We don't
1:59:44
even run the thing. But you know, it's like signaled noise
1:59:50
people see this, you know, even this even Macedon is bumming me
1:59:53
out.
1:59:55
John C Dvorak: Really. bumming you out. It's bumming me out. I
1:59:59
haven't heard that term for While mountains go wow. Oh, wow.
2:00:02
Yep, yep.
2:00:06
Adam Curry: And then it was like he's a great
2:00:08
John C Dvorak: guy. Oh, okay, great guy this Assange
2:00:12
Adam Curry: partisan night slot.
2:00:14
John C Dvorak: Who says he's a great guy,
2:00:15
Adam Curry: everybody. Oh, you're wrong. He's a great guy.
2:00:18
I didn't say he wasn't a great guy said he wasted my time with
2:00:21
a screenshot.
2:00:22
John C Dvorak: How does anybody know where there's a great guy
2:00:24
or not? Nobody be intermingled because the thing because
2:00:27
Adam Curry: he's onboarded so many people. He's a great guy.
2:00:30
John C Dvorak: He's unbelievable. Okay, well,
2:00:33
Adam Curry: I can't I can't how I was going to bring my sister
2:00:35
in. But I can't now because you said something about me. So I
2:00:39
can't ever let her hear that because you'd be so
2:00:41
disappointed. No agenda is no good with you.
2:00:45
John C Dvorak: On parents getting kick him off, Master.
2:00:47
No,
2:00:48
Adam Curry: no, I'm kicking myself off. It's annoying. I
2:00:54
just want to follow some blogs.
2:00:57
John C Dvorak: Well, there's no such thing anymore. Yes, there
2:00:59
is.
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Adam Curry: Bringing it back baby. books, movies,
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documentaries. It's all going to be RSS and I'm gonna I'm gonna
2:01:07
the the army. The army will create it. You watch. We start
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with podcasts. No one has taken down the podcast. No one has
2:01:14
taken on the podcast. They tried. They couldn't they tried
2:01:17
to capture it. Couldn't
2:01:18
John C Dvorak: you couldn't make it Adams RSS. No. Yeah, you
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could be an arse okay.
2:01:30
Adam Curry: You can follow Adam and origin the social.com I
2:01:32
won't post you follow Jhansi Dvorak at norgine. The
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social.com post something to him and he'll say something grumpy
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back. Everyone knows it.
2:01:41
Unknown: Everyone knows it. We're no good. too rare.
2:01:45
Adam Curry: It's rare that you say something grumpy? Yeah.
2:01:51
Where's the evidence? And stuff like that? All right, then
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that's just the voice I hear my head. Value for value is the
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reason why you have not heard any advertisements you've not
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heard anything about gold or gold? Buy gold buy gold. Yeah.
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And this is the reason what's happening now is the reason you
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want to secure your future. You want to buy some gold? I have
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gold bars. John, have you bought any gold recently? Did you get
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in?
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John C Dvorak: I buy a bar a month.
2:02:23
Adam Curry: Bar a month. Wow. What that DHL plug must be doing
2:02:27
pretty well for you. Bar a month. No, there's no no and no.
2:02:33
The only advertisements are the things that we as products we'd
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like or if someone slipped something in a donation. We're
2:02:39
fine with that one moment you will Finchy your your company
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name I'm sure the door is being burnt down with new clients
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everywhere. Lena Lubetkin Yeah. And so all we ask for is that
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you return some value time, talent or treasure. It saves us
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enormous resources. It really makes no agenda show and you
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know agenda nation what it is by the work that everyone else does
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for each other. Like the meetups. Oh man, the new being
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at.io Sir sir de nonnamous. Is he the upgrade is going to be
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phenomenal. I this being a.io. Man, I can I just give you an
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example of how cool since we're in the donation segment. How
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cool bing.io is okay, I want a second. Yeah. So I was looking
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for something about a new story. And this goes back to September
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14. So we're almost one month ago. And it only took me I want
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to say 37 seconds to get exactly what I wanted. And then and that
2:03:41
includes the editing of the harp at the beginning of the listen
2:03:44
to this report from the show 1597 boots on the ground report
2:03:49
that is troubling from Massachusetts. In the morning
2:03:52
boys quick update from the horrible state of tax that UCITS
2:03:56
My cousin is set to get married over Columbus Day weekend. The
2:04:00
groom's family is from out of town and they rented two floors
2:04:03
of a hotel so they could all be together for the weekend.
2:04:06
Governor Healy just seized the hotel to house migrants so they
2:04:11
have lost their reservations. There's nowhere else to say on
2:04:14
top of it. All the hotels that are housing migrants are having
2:04:17
fires, assaults, etc. It's a nightmare. So that is one month
2:04:23
ago. One month ago on your no agenda show and what pops up
2:04:27
today.
2:04:28
Unknown: Early this year Travel Agent Mark man's back booked 400
2:04:32
rooms for clients to stay near Foxborough for the big Army Navy
2:04:36
game. Most of his clients are veterans and plan to stay in
2:04:39
hotels like Comfort Inn and Best Western only recently being told
2:04:43
up to 70 of those rooms were canceled to make room for
2:04:47
migrants now staying there was a done deal. I mean, they'd
2:04:50
already started taking in migrants.
2:04:52
I was very concerned and troubled to hear that any
2:04:55
veteran may have had their rooms canceled.
2:04:58
Go to Bora Healy has directed her Secretary of Veterans
2:05:01
Affairs to help those veterans but for many the damage is
2:05:04
already done
2:05:05
as I understand it, those were decisions made by area hotels.
2:05:09
Oh yeah, so management confirms they are providing shelter and
2:05:13
support to refugees, saying we consider it a privilege to offer
2:05:17
a safe haven to those who have been forced to flee their homes
2:05:21
due to challenging circumstances.
2:05:23
Adam Curry: We know that's code for man the government gave us a
2:05:25
lot more money than those two
2:05:27
John C Dvorak: new vets are gonna give us for these
2:05:29
veterans. That's
2:05:30
Adam Curry: no good. We don't care about them. twice as
2:05:33
John C Dvorak: much money from my for housing and migrant we
2:05:36
get straight from the government checks cash and the
2:05:39
Adam Curry: governor's like, oh, no, what I can't believe that.
2:05:42
That's crazy. I had no idea this was happening. So that's what
2:05:46
being a doctor that's just one of the many beautiful things
2:05:48
that we receive as gifts and value from our producers all
2:05:52
around the world all around no agenda nation. We also have
2:05:56
artists and the artists ever since we started ragging on
2:06:00
their AI have been doing a lot better. The artwork for episode
2:06:03
1597 Was I mean, we had some choices to make. But this was so
2:06:08
perfect because it was the Fibonacci episode than our last
2:06:12
probably the last one. Well, considering it'll be another
2:06:15
1000 episodes before we get to one. Yeah, I think I think
2:06:20
John C Dvorak: we're gonna do 2500 And
2:06:23
Adam Curry: fo Diddley, also known as Sir Schouwburg did a
2:06:26
just a wonderful piece of Fibonacci art with no agenda on
2:06:30
top of it. If you haven't seen it, then that mean, you missed
2:06:33
out? Because man, this is good.
2:06:36
John C Dvorak: Yes, it was. It was. It wasn't we looked and
2:06:40
looked and looked. And I mean, we both kind of liked the war
2:06:44
calendar. We liked it a lot. by Sir shooting. Yeah, it's
2:06:49
dynamite.
2:06:50
Adam Curry: We figured we could use it any time because
2:06:53
John C Dvorak: we never do that. By the way. We always talk a big
2:06:56
game about it.
2:06:57
Adam Curry: I use it for the for the bad signal today. Oh, good.
2:07:00
Yeah.
2:07:00
John C Dvorak: Well, well, then. That's something Yeah. We talk a
2:07:03
big game about that. I also liked comic strip, strip
2:07:08
bloggers Air Force, the parachute. It was la I
2:07:13
obviously. But the no agenda thing. We looked and looked at
2:07:17
it. And it's just like it was it just a good looking piece.
2:07:21
Adam Curry: It actually probably wasn't a Fibonacci, golden ratio
2:07:24
because of the square size of the of the art.
2:07:28
Unknown: So it felt it felt a little off. I don't know.
2:07:31
John C Dvorak: I think it looks pretty legit to me. But whatever
2:07:33
the case, it was dynamite. And it just worked out. Yeah. As a
2:07:38
pretty piece. And then it's a little different. It was great.
2:07:42
So
2:07:43
Adam Curry: what else did we
2:07:45
John C Dvorak: look at? There wasn't really much. I mean,
2:07:49
there's a lot of stuff that could be used
2:07:52
Adam Curry: Biden kicking the dog, but the Biden wasn't good.
2:07:54
Yeah, we
2:07:55
John C Dvorak: didn't talk enough about Biden kicking the
2:07:57
dog anyway.
2:07:58
Adam Curry: Now. What else was there?
2:08:01
John C Dvorak: Biden kicks dogs. Okay, well, good to know.
2:08:06
Adam Curry: Yes, not really wasn't that much. I mean, in
2:08:11
hindsight, I think that lather rinse repeat by the spook was
2:08:15
kind of nice. to two different versions. But still, it just
2:08:23
didn't compare to the
2:08:24
John C Dvorak: Fibonacci was an artistic enough. Yeah, it did.
2:08:27
Adam Curry: The calendar of ripping off the Ukrainian flag,
2:08:30
revealing the Israeli flag underneath. It was just a great
2:08:33
concert. It was the same guy. He was competing against himself.
2:08:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you get that a lot with somebody who's
2:08:38
on a roll. They got some good ideas in their head and they do
2:08:40
a couple art pieces or three sometimes and they're all in the
2:08:43
same guy that it was we look at
2:08:47
Adam Curry: and looking at what's coming in so far. We'll
2:08:50
have to see. I don't know. Step it up people. It looks like some
2:08:55
more AI stuff has slipped in.
2:08:58
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely.
2:09:00
Definitely.
2:09:02
Adam Curry: Thank you very much. To fo Diddley, fo diddley for
2:09:08
the artwork for 1598 Oh man. No. 1597 I'm sorry, what? 15 man
2:09:15
we're also almost at 1600 Yeah. And the 16th anniversary is on
2:09:22
the 26th I believe
2:09:24
John C Dvorak: it's right the next week we go to 1600 then we
2:09:26
hit the anniversary show and we're not doing a two for one
2:09:31
kind of thing because that was for 15 and Tana do was he's just
2:09:35
not going to keep doing that now. But I do have a special
2:09:37
offer which I will roll Oh,
2:09:40
Adam Curry: yes special offer.
2:09:41
John C Dvorak: I've been working on how to do it. Workout. It'll
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be a start out I'll it'll be revealed in the next newsletter.
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Because it is going to start it's gonna go it's only going to
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be a three week there's a special promotion. Yes, a
2:09:55
special promotion is only a three week deal is ends. It's
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not going to be going on forever, because it takes work.
2:10:04
It takes J doing a lot of work.
2:10:07
Adam Curry: I was gonna say you read really you're gonna do some
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work
2:10:10
John C Dvorak: out for jobs gonna be doing good work. And
2:10:14
it'll be a roll it out. It'll roll out this Sunday. Oh, man,
2:10:18
I'm excited. And then it'll be continued right through the 1600
2:10:22
and the anniversary show and to the end of the month, and
2:10:24
probably one extra week.
2:10:27
Adam Curry: But we have to use that promo code.
2:10:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and then you get a mattress in a box.
2:10:36
Adam Curry: Then, of course, we have the producers, really only
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two executives and a handful of associate executives for today.
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This is all the way value for value works. Whatever you get
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can't look into your into your finances. We all we ask is that
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you send something back time talent treasure, and about 3%
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extravagance degree. We kick it off with our top executive
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producer Dame shell who's in Millington, Tennessee Shelly
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John C Dvorak: I think it's pronounced Shelly
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Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Usually I probably met her. Dame Shelly
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I'm thinking in Tennessee 333 33 Hey fellas been seeing lots of
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Unknown: You've got karma
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Adam Curry: your name Shelly
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John C Dvorak: Vandenberg is next season Provan Sol Louisiana
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that's the signal it's time to donate yeah Carmen health karma
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for all please love you both. And all you do to keep critical
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Unknown: you've got Harma
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Adam Curry: simplified interview right. And then we hit our first
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Associate Executive Producer with a row of ducks Benjamin
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greasy from Overland Park Kansas 222 dot 22 When he says Zippy
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John C Dvorak: Eric Levin Berg in Los Angeles, California. And
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Adam Curry: Then here's your health karma. Karma. We just
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take it all in. Oh, John. You've got to do this one.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, Linda Lou Potkins up is she's in Lakewood,
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find Linda Potkin under the show producers list. This is a
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showdown between the show and Linda Lou Pak and who keeps
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donating $200 a show to see how long she can hold out. It
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shouldn't be staring. Shouldn't she be a dame? Tell she's a dame
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maybe even a VI Countess. She doesn't want to she don't want
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to interrupt the flow job who at the end when she gives up any
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minute. Then she'll be a witness which you have the totals and
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we'll give her what she needs. It'll
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jobs and jobs for jobs. Pharma.
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Adam Curry: Sean Macross. In is in tager kit take a que South
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Carolina to want to dollars. He says appreciate what you guys
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do. Well, thank you. Thank you very much.
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John C Dvorak: You can get the next one because you have the
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notes open.
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Adam Curry: I don't actually but it won't take me long to open.
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Sorry. That's okay. This is from surfer, surfer, surfer, surfer.
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And the services which Rudy sends in a note which you will
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read $200 In the morning, ITM John Adams switcheroo. Please
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credit this Associate Executive Producer ship to His Excellency
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Mr. Dana Brunetti governor of Eldorado. That's his honorifics.
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It's
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John C Dvorak: very suspicious.
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Adam Curry: These donations will continue until John gets a big
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part yet karma for all producers please love is lit, sir for
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black Baron of the i Four corridor. All right.
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Unknown: You've got
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Adam Curry: karma, by the way, I fully expect Brunetti to come
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through one day.
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John C Dvorak: He's out of the business. Now he's not.
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Adam Curry: He's not Hey,
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John C Dvorak: thank you bringing me back in.
2:15:25
Adam Curry: I just like to be killed in something of a
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gruesome death. I
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John C Dvorak: think a lot of people feel that.
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Adam Curry: Go ahead, you get to read this long one. Oh,
2:15:35
actually, that's it. Those that were done those of the executive
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and Associate Executive producers for episode 1598 Thank
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you all so very much. We highly appreciate what you do for us.
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These credits are Real you
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John C Dvorak: can actually stop stop. This next one is 159 and
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Australian dollars which bumps I'll read it. Yeah, this is Dean
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from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. 159 70 or 200.
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Something in American dollars is dollar Rhett's? Which we made a
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deal. It's kind of an agreement bad,
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Adam Curry: bad deal in
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John C Dvorak: a bad deal for us. First of all, you need to de
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douchey
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Unknown: you've been de deuced
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John C Dvorak: and it's 159 70 is also the golden is the
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Fibonacci number is a numbers guy was pleasantly stirred by
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the call for the golden mean show. Unfortunately, my donation
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might have arrived and the cutoff time after the cutoff
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time was at last when I missed the donor segment and it'd be
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who's both John and you given the rare nature of the episode
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indeed, that would be possible for a golden mean credit award
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in post. I would definitely make my day okay,
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Adam Curry: you gotta you got it man. My
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John C Dvorak: initial note was to highlight I got hit in the
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mouth off a sweet treat in early 2018 from Uncle Hotep. co host
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of the Hotep Ben told you with Hotep Jesus when his followers
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does the only Hotep donation ever have as far as anyone
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listen to the show, and you got to do somebody wants to do
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Unknown: bad deed deuced
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John C Dvorak: Big shout out to the low tech community and all
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the no agenda producers thank you both for the invaluable
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insights of deconstructions a once a karma and verbalize your
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33 Thank you for you service. That's our pleasure. In the
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standby 3333 33 out you've got karma. And
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Adam Curry: definitely concludes our executive and Associate
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Executive Producers credits are Real you can use them anywhere
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credits are recognized. Be like Dana Brunetti and put it on
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imdb.com Then you can say hey, look at my credits. Look at this
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guy. You heard this guy house of cards with 50 Shades of Grey
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GranTurismo do it to people, it's good for your resume. It's
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Adam Curry: and we kick it off with the governor of El Dorado
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Adam Curry: well, not only do we have no meetup reports. There's
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John C Dvorak: me found that quite peculiar.
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Adam Curry: You'd think I was afraid, you know.
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John C Dvorak: There's also no meetups on Halloween.
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Adam Curry: Well, now is Halloween. You gotta do
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Okay,
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Adam Curry: I'm back. I'm back. I have two to two ISOs to I
2:31:05
think one of them's the winner. Do you want to do yours first?
2:31:08
Are you always how you
2:31:09
John C Dvorak: did mine first lesson?
2:31:10
Adam Curry: You love it? You're wanted for Christmas? That's one
2:31:16
second I got a boost this next one this is the winner Houma
2:31:19
This is the winner. Me just looks at the volume sometimes
2:31:21
these aren't good. Okay, here we go. This is the winner there is
2:31:24
just not enough of Taylor Swift Come on. Come on. That's the
2:31:28
winner right there.
2:31:29
John C Dvorak: I like it. I like it. I may have beat her when it
2:31:32
means now I have a couple here that I thought I could fit that
2:31:36
I only I actually have one and that one the other ones I have
2:31:40
are just an example of using the Adobe thing and having it come
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out cleaner but using but changing some word now listen to
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I get to I so big win and then I so big win fix the play. I saw
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big win and this is the clip I wanted to fix.
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Unknown: So a big way. Okay, so a
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John C Dvorak: big win. Yeah. So a big win. big wig almost it was
2:32:06
so nice. But that's the problem I have Adobe couldn't understand
2:32:09
it either. But he's but it was big win.
2:32:12
Adam Curry: Okay, so here's the Adobe product. Fixed Here we go.
2:32:17
Unknown: So I may weigh between
2:32:21
John C Dvorak: the big one a big win big wing, the big wing
2:32:26
thanks to Adobe change when to Wing Wing for nothing that's AI
2:32:31
for you. So now let's go to my other one which is fact check
2:32:37
true
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Unknown: fact check true
2:32:41
Adam Curry: na na na na nah, this beats it. I mean, this is
2:32:46
just not enough of Taylor Swift Come on. That's just that's the
2:32:49
that wins.
2:32:53
John C Dvorak: So I did a little digging in this Taylor Swift
2:32:55
story.
2:32:57
Adam Curry: Why?
2:32:59
John C Dvorak: Because I'm because this seems to me to be a
2:33:02
play by one public relations firm to get NFL as one of their
2:33:06
clients because they have a bunch of players and Taylor
2:33:09
Swift for some unknown reason is probably write this up in the
2:33:13
newsletter. She is managed publicity wise by us sports
2:33:18
management company that manages athletes. Yeah. And she's there
2:33:24
among the athletes and this makes nothing but sense that
2:33:27
they set her up with his a phony boyfriend story, which is
2:33:30
Hollywood does all the time, of course, but let's do it for the
2:33:33
NFL and get the numbers up. She didn't show up in the last game.
2:33:36
We will never hear from her again in the football era. And
2:33:40
she never was boyfriend girlfriend bowl crap. But people
2:33:44
lapped it up.
2:33:46
Adam Curry: Do you have a clip to go along with this or?
2:33:49
John C Dvorak: No, I use his brother because you brought that
2:33:50
clip and I had to say something,
2:33:52
Adam Curry: just all your assertions.
2:33:55
John C Dvorak: Alright, so I got some I have some offbeat clips.
2:34:00
Adam Curry: Before we do offbeat. Let's end with that. So
2:34:02
I can just depress everybody. Well,
2:34:03
John C Dvorak: they're not offbeat in that way. They're
2:34:05
their news clips that include this one, which is Holland
2:34:09
climate change. Oh, here we go.
2:34:12
Unknown: And the Netherlands. climate activists are
2:34:14
celebrating after lawmakers Tuesday approved a motion
2:34:18
requiring the Dutch cabinet to come up with a plan to phase out
2:34:21
fossil fuel subsidies. This comes after a sustained campaign
2:34:25
by activists including a nearly month long blockade of a major
2:34:28
highway this Lucas phenotypes of extinction rebellion
2:34:33
Netherlands,
2:34:34
after a month long of daily protests and more than 9000
2:34:38
arrests. The Dutch parliament asked the Cabinet to come up
2:34:41
with scenarios for phase out of fossil fuel subsidies during
2:34:45
this campaign we achieved transformation I think of Dutch
2:34:49
society, with three quarters of the people now wanting a phase
2:34:54
out of fossil fuel subsidies. And even a third of the people
2:34:58
want immediate stuff out All fossil fuel subsidies that is
2:35:02
the extinction rebellion demand. So a big way. Yes.
2:35:07
Adam Curry: Let me tell you this is some bull crap from the from
2:35:10
this ditch guy and I tell you why. Okay, you ready for this?
2:35:14
This cabinet this cabinet fell a while ago, so they cannot make
2:35:19
any laws or anything Intel there's a new cabinet after
2:35:22
elections in November. So he is full of vasavi coward. We call
2:35:27
it cow crap in Holland.
2:35:31
John C Dvorak: Well, the other thing about that clip is that
2:35:34
they want to end fossil fuel subsidies. What what is that?
2:35:40
It's not about ending fossil fuel.
2:35:42
Adam Curry: It doesn't matter. We got those idiots off of the
2:35:44
aid valve. It was annoying. We couldn't shoot them with water
2:35:48
cannons because they were crying all the time about it. So we
2:35:52
just say okay, you get something from us go value children's cast
2:35:57
was actually pretty good. I think I think I nailed that guy.
2:36:00
John C Dvorak: Nailed it. You nailed it. You nailed it. You
2:36:03
will get nasty notes from some of your Dutch. Oh,
2:36:06
Adam Curry: no, they agree. They think they think it's all
2:36:09
annoying. Let's do something depressing for a moment. And
2:36:14
then we'll do something funny. You recall the well, actually,
2:36:18
you had the clips of the DNA gene jock from the South
2:36:24
Carolina. What was it it was a special hearing about COVID
2:36:32
About the vaccines about DNA being in the
2:36:35
John C Dvorak: DNA being in the vaccines and going into your
2:36:39
system as you know, recombinant and putting it into your your
2:36:46
genetic material?
2:36:47
Adam Curry: Yes, none of this seems to be doing very well for
2:36:49
a lot of people. And this same ad hoc committee on the health.
2:36:55
Department of
2:36:56
John C Dvorak: Health seems to be making a lot of people sick.
2:36:59
Adam Curry: Well, here is Dr. Karen DeVore. She's a
2:37:02
dermatologist. Nice lady. two parter.
2:37:06
Unknown: In the last two and a half years since a vaccine has
2:37:09
been widely promoted. And many patients have taken it out of
2:37:12
fear and isolation. The patients who took the vaccine still get
2:37:18
COVID. And now I see patients and I could not believe the
2:37:23
attorney whose spokesman said he had heard the same thing because
2:37:26
in 30 years of practicing dermatology, I've never heard
2:37:30
people describe their symptoms this way. I am itching from my
2:37:34
bones out. I am on fire from the inside. I see the most unusual
2:37:41
rashes and they don't respond well to treatment. And they last
2:37:45
for months or years. I see previously well controlled
2:37:49
autoimmune diseases like psoriasis and eczema and lupus
2:37:54
now totally out of control. I see your see aggressive, severe
2:37:59
shingles, it is more painful, it is lasting longer. And this is
2:38:03
even in those who've had the shingles vaccine. I see rapidly
2:38:08
growing skin cancers, including basal cells that are just
2:38:12
supposed to be traditionally very slow growing. I see
2:38:15
squamous cells, cutaneous squamous cells that are
2:38:18
metastasizing much more often than they ever did before. And
2:38:22
melanomas have become so unusual and much harder to diagnose.
2:38:26
They are much more advanced at presentation, and I have to
2:38:30
biopsy more and more things. And it's all in vaccinated patients.
2:38:35
Adam Curry: So that's her professional in her profession
2:38:38
in her field in the medical profession. And he or she's
2:38:41
talking about just some other ancillary things she has
2:38:44
noticed.
2:38:45
Unknown: And then beyond my field, patients that I have seen
2:38:48
regularly for six to 12 months, every six to 12 months for 30
2:38:52
years. They're aging more rapidly. They've got unhealthy
2:38:55
weight loss, they keep their balances bad, they're falling,
2:38:58
they're black and blue. They can't get on an exam table. And
2:39:00
you see their medical updates as they were in and they've had
2:39:04
atrial fibrillation, pacemakers, heart attack strokes, blood
2:39:07
clots, pulmonary embolism, Parkinsonism, ALS, tremors,
2:39:11
nerve policies, miscarriages, infertility, did I mention
2:39:15
aggressive new ones that cancers, recurrent stage four
2:39:19
cancers after 20 years of remission? I know for people in
2:39:24
one small zip code in Spartanburg that have rare
2:39:27
leukemias, three or four of them are dead now, in over 30 years
2:39:32
of medical practice. I've probably only known one or two
2:39:34
people who had Lou Gehrig's, or ALS disease, and they were
2:39:38
distant and not really you know, third or fourth contacts I now
2:39:41
know three people in my immediate range of contact
2:39:45
Adam Curry: you know what's to blame
2:39:50
John C Dvorak: Putin okay with that, you're right. That was a
2:39:56
depressing clip. But
2:39:57
Adam Curry: now Now I'm going to take you out of it. I'm taking
2:39:59
this
2:39:59
John C Dvorak: lie I still have another news clip before you
2:40:01
take us out I was something
2:40:02
Adam Curry: no no because I want you to end with something like
2:40:06
I'm going I don't have
2:40:07
John C Dvorak: something like I have I have a what what clip
2:40:10
Adam Curry: Okay, do we want it shouldn't that be the last clip
2:40:14
the what what clip?
2:40:15
John C Dvorak: Okay it's it's actually a good last clip
2:40:18
because you go what
2:40:19
Adam Curry: will go what what yep, yep. Here is Dr. Osterholm
2:40:24
that you know he has he has long COVID Yes long COVID Yeah
2:40:28
John C Dvorak: the guy would they got sick? Yeah right sick
2:40:30
as
2:40:30
Adam Curry: a dog. He was he was the OG we're all gonna die. We
2:40:34
need to get vaccinated. met him at Joe Rogan first time I went
2:40:38
on 3 million people gonna die. Oh gee, he has a podcast. And oh
2:40:43
man COVID is it's all COVID.
2:40:45
Unknown: The researchers found the SARS cov to can infect and
2:40:49
replicate and white blood cells, leading to an inflammatory
2:40:52
response that is known to increase the risk of heart
2:40:55
attacks and stroke. And this elevated risk can last up to a
2:40:58
year after infection. In additional research that has
2:41:01
been done, it has been demonstrated that individuals up
2:41:04
to one year after their COVID case, have an increased risk for
2:41:08
cardiovascular events, cardiovascular events, as
2:41:13
specifically that is at least seven times higher for COVID
2:41:17
related infections and for influenza. We have been
2:41:20
observing an increase in heart attacks and stroke with COVID 19
2:41:23
infections throughout the pandemic. But until now, there
2:41:26
was no concrete biologic evidence linking COVID-19 to
2:41:30
this increase, as the authors of the paper explain their findings
2:41:34
provide for the first time a direct mechanistic link between
2:41:38
COVID 19 infection and the heart complications that provokes
2:41:43
Adam Curry: vascular problems. We knew this, we knew this a
2:41:46
year of more than a year ago. And we got it from these two
2:41:50
women. Do you know anything about COVID Dix shrinkage?
2:41:53
Unknown: Yeah, okay, so remember that it's proof it's COVID COVID
2:42:00
David dish rendering
2:42:02
John C Dvorak: that was I think that was his shows off the rails
2:42:04
at that mark
2:42:06
Adam Curry: that's why I stopped it all right. What give me some
2:42:10
light yeah
2:42:10
John C Dvorak: over the over that guy over hold whatever the
2:42:14
hell is poster home Oh, Mr. White He's making himself sick
2:42:18
at this point. I think you're right that's a very good you
2:42:21
know how you can just get yourself again using that term
2:42:24
spun up yeah, he's just doing it to himself the poor guy I feel
2:42:28
sorry for him okay, this is this is the update on Niger this our
2:42:33
African story right at the end of the show, so people can't
2:42:36
complain you know, you can't is it Niger on the show and we got
2:42:40
the funny stuff coming up after this is Nigeria or nice air.
2:42:44
Nice air. Okay. So this is the nice air clip and it just the
2:42:49
update and it's interesting because of the very ending the
2:42:53
little ending at the end make sure go what, here we go
2:42:56
Unknown: share, the first set of French soldiers have started to
2:42:59
withdraw from the country after orders by nushares military
2:43:03
junta following their July takeover in the capital in the
2:43:07
AMA. Residents welcomed the French soldiers departure
2:43:11
event today this batch of French soldiers who arrived in who will
2:43:15
God willing shortly be taking to the role to return home and is
2:43:20
only the culmination of a struggle that the people have
2:43:23
engaged in. People are on their feet to demand the departure of
2:43:28
the French soldiers from Niger soil, because one thing is
2:43:32
certain Niger remains for the people love Niger.
2:43:37
This comes as the US formally designated the ouster of
2:43:40
President Mohammed Bazoom and military takeover as a coup
2:43:43
suspending a two new Share. But US officials say they do not
2:43:47
plan to remove any of its 1000 military personnel from new
2:43:51
Share.
2:43:53
John C Dvorak: What what I said? What are we doing? We have we're
2:43:58
just so the French are rousted and we still have our troops
2:44:01
there. And we don't plan to move anything. Yeah, screw you. We
2:44:05
got our place and then we're still you know, we're a kick ass
2:44:08
country. It's unbelievable.
2:44:14
Adam Curry: You know, they say that the Empire is in decline,
2:44:17
and sometimes it kind of feels like see
2:44:19
John C Dvorak: no evidence of this.
2:44:23
Adam Curry: Well, maybe for you in California, everything's all
2:44:25
hunky dory. I don't know. It's not it's not feeling so great.
2:44:30
Unknown: But okay,
2:44:31
Adam Curry: there's no real empire that EU they're in
2:44:34
decline. They're They're up shits Creek. The EU has
2:44:37
reopened. I know. That's the funny thing about it. Thanks to
2:44:42
us. Was that it? Was that was that your end? That's the final
2:44:46
one. We'll do it.
2:44:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's an Africa clips. So there you go.
2:44:49
Adam Curry: Good work. Well, I don't think we have anything
2:44:51
else that I think we've we've kind of covered it all. For
2:44:56
today as best we can as best we can. Well, that's good news
2:44:59
because We're going to end everything with oh man some end
2:45:05
of show mixes and we got
2:45:07
John C Dvorak: these are beauties by the way for people
2:45:09
out there don't hang up I'm going to do
2:45:11
Adam Curry: the bomb them again mix those throw that in there
2:45:14
since it was topical. We got Maddie J miracle wolf it's a
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brand new ones. Up next I know AGENDA stream.com We have let me
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deconstruction on Sunday coming to you from the heart of the
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Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six in the
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morning, everybody. I am Adam curry,
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I think
2:45:53
we'd kind of get our summer Finally, I'm John C. Dvorak.
2:45:56
Adam Curry: We return on
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Unknown: Sunday. Right here.
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Adam Curry: Please remember us at devora.org/na Until then,
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adios mofos who we who he adds
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Unknown: I'm gonna I'm gonna bomb bomb. I'm gonna I'm gonna
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I'm gonna bomb bomb out of I'm gonna. I'm gonna I'm gonna bomb
2:46:34
bomb. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna.
2:47:25
You 30 to 50% of the population had relations back to Germany.
2:47:44
So there had to be this very clever propaganda campaign. It's
2:47:48
known today as babies on bayonets.
2:47:53
I can think of my nephew gathered in the mud, the bodies
2:47:57
of lifeless children suspected of being poisoned in a chemical
2:48:01
attack, allegedly orchestrated by their own government. We have
2:48:05
all seen
2:48:06
the reports of the terrible chemical weapons attack in
2:48:09
Syria. They took the babies out of incubators, and let the
2:48:13
children to
2:48:15
the incubators. And they were thrown out of the incubators so
2:48:19
that Kuwait could be systematically dismantled 14
2:48:23
babies and young children babies being bathed in kill to even
2:48:27
beheaded
2:48:28
babies and toddlers were found
2:48:30
babies and young children with their heads copper children with
2:48:34
their head
2:48:35
deep headed. Babies found
2:48:37
dead next to that carts that has been
2:48:39
through for civilized countries of this world to do everything
2:48:43
within their power to remove this scourge. From the face of
2:48:50
our Earth,
2:48:50
emotions drive wars, not facts.
2:48:54
It is sort of evil that it's beyond comprehension. Beyond the
2:48:57
Leon the lake.
2:49:01
It took the babies and incubators
2:49:03
is a bomb.
2:49:04
This is a fuse. This bomb has to be filled.
2:49:07
Thomas is the original snack. Pay attention please. It's a
2:49:17
classic tale of an authoritarian and this little tale of
2:49:25
extremism. And sadly, so many of those extremists are determined
2:49:38
to return to a place where you know people could be in charge
2:49:43
of their lives feel empowered, say what they want. So it is
2:49:49
like a tautology.
2:49:55
In order to try to end our democracy, there needs to be
2:49:59
more multiprogramming of the cult members gun control and
2:50:06
climate change in the economy and taxes. What is it you want
2:50:14
to make America great again? Tonight don't say that
2:50:37
oppo vora.org/in A
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there is just not enough of Taylor Swift
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