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September 7th, 2023 • 2h 58m

1588: Swedish Fish

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John C Dvorak: They need to be new.
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Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi Devora
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Adam Curry: number 720 23 This is your award winning
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combination media assassination episode 1588.
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Unknown: This is no agenda
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Adam Curry: Uncensored on mass and broadcasting live from the
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heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six
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in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm here to
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declare the world's worst candy is Swedish Fish. I'm John C.
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Dvorak. Gil.
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Adam Curry: You never cease to amaze Swedish Fish who eats
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that? Oh, don't eat it. Don't eat that stuff, man. That's no
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good.
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John C Dvorak: Oh my god. It's doesn't it's not a gummy. It's
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not a hard candy. It's not a.it says nothing. It's not got a
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little bread gob. And the flavor is the flavor of red dye. Number
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four, nothing going on.
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Adam Curry: Now did you buy these or did they just show up
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in them in the PIO box are
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John C Dvorak: on sale as everything is typically gross
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out? Gross. Yeah, man. These
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Adam Curry: are on sale. How can I?
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John C Dvorak: Well, I've had him before and I've never
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realized how really bad they are. When you go to Sweden.
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You've been to Sweden.
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Adam Curry: I've been to Sweden once Actually, only once.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, you could go to the grocery store,
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which I always managed to do wherever I go. You go to the
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grid. They have bins of these things. And this in your sweet
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your friends Swedish friends was oh yeah, we love these all we
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love these. Do we love the Swedish Fish? It gets some of
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these. Especially you get them by the bin full. And there's
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just dreadful.
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Adam Curry: You know, I liked your newsletter rant better.
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Swedish Fish rent. You had a great rant in the newsletter.
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About what what May I May I quote, you know, of course the
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Biden administration is trying to juggle too many balls and
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it's showing. Besides inflation, overspending gas prices dustbins
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if Ukraine war and impending impeachment inquiry, the Hunter
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Biden mess the proliferation of trans mouse ideologies, state
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approved female and male genital mutilation, rampant crime in the
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major cities, led by an undue shoplifting epidemic, continued
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COVID fear with double vaccin double boosted Jill Biden
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getting COVID Again, Trump indictments headed by a
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decidedly corrupt Justice Department, Maui corruption,
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fires and flooding everywhere because of bad resource
2:30
management, universally poor test scores by the American
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children and an open border and consequent crises. How are all
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these policies working out? Does anyone think the public wants
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four more years of this is much to discuss. Donate now.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's one of those.
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Adam Curry: That was good. It was good. I liked it.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, this one sentence.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. It was even hard to read that way.
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John C Dvorak: You did you did you read it right.
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Adam Curry: And I thought, we need a no agenda rebuttal to
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this.
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Unknown: This good luck just to set everybody
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Adam Curry: in the right tone. Mas do not stop you from getting
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or spreading flu cold or COVID. COVID is not a killer virus.
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mRNA is not a vaccine. It's an experimental gene tinkering
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thing. There are only men and women to spirit and non binary
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are not genders. Librarians used to be hot, not ugly. With green
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hair. There is no LGBTQ community. There is no black
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community. The world is not overpopulated. There's no
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structural wage difference between men and women in the
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workplace. All politics is theater. The US president is not
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the king, the emperor or your daddy, who's going to save you
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if you want to speak to your real father, talk to God. All
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advertising based media is dishonest at best and likely
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propaganda. And climate change initiatives are a huge money
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making global scam.
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John C Dvorak: So my little rant triggered you Yes,
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Adam Curry: it did. Did.
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John C Dvorak: So well. I can do a series of complaints. I can
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also do a series of complaints. And so you put that little list
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together that we wish is quite good. I might add Thank you.
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Adam Curry: Thank you, but it just hit me. It's like come on
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people. We need to just stop with going along with stuff here
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for a minute. The dog actually got up and came over and looked
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at me Are you okay, daddy? You Okay, daddy?
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John C Dvorak: Dogs do that.
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Adam Curry: And I have to say my favorite because we know I have
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great Africa stuff today. We're not going to start with Africa.
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I'm keeping that in the brain. It ruins donations. People two
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guys, although I think I have in half a show. I have an actual
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second half of the show. But I'm thinking to Africa, I finally
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have it. And that's because the elites were all down in Kenya
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but the news of the day has got to be Elon Musk playing the heel
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to the Elan versus the anti Defamation League Elon versus
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the G Who's kerfuffle? This is like a W. W. E. SmackDown.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, I'm glad you caught that because I mean, I'm
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very aware I read all the stuff above. I never found any clips.
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Adam Curry: Oh, be boring. Oh, no, the clip collector and the
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clip custodian everyone was all over this because, I mean, it's
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turned into actually, we can go back in time. Remember when Ilan
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was I think he had just purchased Twitter. And he was
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talking before an audience of investors and what was the guy's
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name Ron Baron. And, and he and Elon was talking about your what
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he's going to do with these are all the guys that backed Elon to
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buy Twitter. And this is obviously what is this? This is
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from? This is from last year, isn't it? I mean, it's this is a
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long time ago. And he was already complaining about the
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anti Defamation League specifically, you can go and
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take a look at their stop the hate campaign, which they
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proudly put on Twitter everywhere, saying that, Oh,
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here it is. ADL orders advertisers to bail on Twitter
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calls the Bible and anti semitic conspiracy theory. I mean, this
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was all going on. And yes, the ADL was going to advertisers
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telling them not to, not to advertise. And then we even had
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the douchebag from what was it? What's the big agency
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Interpublic? No, what is it?
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Unknown: Two of them? Yeah, I
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Adam Curry: can't remember the name. What is the name of the
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big one pub was that publicists? A publicist Anyway, listen to as
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Elon is talking to his investor, and this is a year ago.
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Unknown: So and then we also recently had a lot of difficulty
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with activist groups pressuring major advertisers to stop
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spending money on Twitter. This is despite us doing everything
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possible to appease them. And to make it clear that moderation
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rules and hateful conduct rules have not changed. And we're
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continuing to enforce them. The n number of major advertisers
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have stopped spending on Twitter. So this, but this is,
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this doesn't seem right, because we've made no change in our
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operations at all. And nonetheless, the activist groups
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have been successful in causing a massive drop in Twitter
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advertising revenue, and we've done our absolute best to
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appease them and nothing is working. So this is a major
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concern. And I think this is frankly, an attack on the First
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Amendment. Like if activist groups can pressure advertisers
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upon which Twitter is fundamentally dependent to
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suppress free speech then that doesn't seem right.
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Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Wonderful. So Elon doesn't give a crap
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about advertising. This is well known he was even even claimed
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to be cashflow positive recently, because he's he's got
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his he's paying people money to post this has nothing to do with
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advertising. You hired that Yeah. Karina woman, just to be a
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gaslighter. Really even she's an unwitting idiot. In this case.
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It's all eyes on Elon, don't look at thread. Don't look at
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Facebook. Look at me all the actions over here. This is
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great. Come on, you know. And the mainstream media lapped it
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up.
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John C Dvorak: My favorite thing that the mainstream media labs
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up is x. Otherwise they're previously known as Twitter.
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Adam Curry: I mean, could you have any better advertising? He
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is playing the heel? You want to explain the classic heel move in
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wrestling? I think you probably do better than I can.
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John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, there's one guy who's always the
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bad guy. I mean, I do throwing this at me out of the blue,
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because I'm not sure what you're angling for. But there's a bad
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guy in wrestling who's always just, uh, just a bad guy who
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always ends up being the cheater. He's always like, Oh,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, don't hit me. No, don't no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, that he gives it to the guy punched him right in
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the face and then into the throat, slaps real crush, flips
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them over. And then he starts to pin him, you know, and then he
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gets kicked off
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Adam Curry: well done. That's a pretty good explanation. So we
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have to get everybody involved. We need all the pundits on this
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one. Let's go to Jake Tapper, who has my favorite Kara Swisher
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to explain what's going on here
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Unknown: in our tech lead. Says he's threatening to sue the anti
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Defamation League for lost revenue at x the website
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formerly known as Twitter must claim without any evidence that
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we've seen claims without any evidence that we've seen ADL
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statements about rising hate speech on the platform are the
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reason why there is has been a 60% decrease in advertising
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advertising. The ADL and other organizations have noted the
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increase in hate speech on page since Musk took over and removed
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much of the content moderation I suppose I think in
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Adam Curry: discovery it will come out that he didn't remove
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much of the content moderation he's actually added more
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John C Dvorak: I think so too. I can tell by the way my numbers
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go Oh,
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Adam Curry: I get no traction. I mean, I can post something it
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may be hours later if the right person with the blue checkmark
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does something maybe Oh no. And this now community notes now
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he's done more and there's lots of people getting kicked off.
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But this
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John C Dvorak: goes back to Jay yet people are getting kicked
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off left and right they're about it but this is
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Adam Curry: you know he liked Kanye back Kanye hasn't tweeted
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anything but you know Kanye is clearly was he was the the
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genesis behind the stop the hate campaign which the ADL it's on
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their own website they were telling advertisers do not
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advertise on Twitter. Now, do I think that's a defamation? No,
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no, there's never gonna be a lawsuit this is all promotion
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and it's good when for
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Unknown: the ADL responded to Musk's threat quote, the ADL
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isn't surprised yet undeterred than anti Semites white
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supremacists conspiracy theorists oh here we get other
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trolls have launched a coordinated attack on
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organization this type of thing is nothing new on
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Adam Curry: if I was going to promote Twitter I'd want
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everybody to know that all the nut jobs are over on my side you
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don't want something sanitized even though it is come on over
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all the
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John C Dvorak: fake out is a faint the trolls are here
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Unknown: he Elon Musk later said quote to be super clear, I'm pro
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free speech but against anti semitism of any kind. Never
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really good sign when you have to clarify to people that you're
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against anti semitism, but it's just empirically
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Adam Curry: I love Hey, he said he doesn't hate Jews. It's never
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good when you have to say you don't hate Jews, okay.
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John C Dvorak: Which makes no sense. No, of
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Unknown: course heard his free speech position when you take
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this, what he calls a purist free speech position, although
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it's although it's not real. He blocks free speech. He doesn't
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like yeah, damn right. But he allows anti semitism to
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flourish. And we've all we've all seen it
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right. Well, he's first amendment as a Swiss Hold on a
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second. We both seen it.
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John C Dvorak: What what evidence does he have he's seen
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it
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Adam Curry: and so as Kara right, they haven't.
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John C Dvorak: Right, right. They haven't seen anything.
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There's no It's bull crap. You know, if you want to go to the
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real crazy stuff in the wild that antiSemitism and everything
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in it, everything in between you go to Mastodon Mastodon is where
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all the craziness really are through.
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Unknown: Its although it's not real. He's he blocks free speech
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he doesn't like but he allows anti semitism flourish.
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flourish. And we've all we've all seen it right.
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That is a Swiss army knife, whatever it suits him. Swiss
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Army knife will either block people or cut people off or sue
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people or say he's for free speech. It's sort of it's his
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cloak that is everybody can see through it's transparent. And so
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you know, I just
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Adam Curry: loved your protege your protege Kara Swisher does a
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thank you for getting her into podcasting. Thank you. Because I
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love when she said I'm just gonna sound so much better than
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everybody else. He has a Swiss army knife he has gone on to
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unconsciously
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Unknown: threatening to groups.
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John C Dvorak: This is like scripted to me. This is like the
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broader out. She's a spook.
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Adam Curry: Want to be that best cloak that
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John C Dvorak: well, she's still taking. This is like you could
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predict everything going on. And
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Adam Curry: no, she's not a spook she is focused. But you
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John C Dvorak: can't predict everything that's going on in
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this Yeah, can predict what tappers got to say. You can
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predict what she's got to say. It's all hot air. Yeah, it's
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great.
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Unknown: Everybody can see through, it's transparent. And
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so, you know, it's threatening to groups like ADL or a lot of
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these academic groups. All of them and they're very nervous.
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Oh, yeah.
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Adam Curry: They're very nervous. The ADL is very that by
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the way, the ADL anti Defamation League aren't they against all
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defamation or only anti semitism because it's a little unclear
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too
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John C Dvorak: much anti semitism. If it comes down to
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that guy Can I mention something else?
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Adam Curry: Please
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John C Dvorak: What is the deal with a number of people carry
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included that just hate Musk to an extreme? What is he ever done
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to them? Oh no they hate him so much. I mean it you can go on my
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I follow some people on the other mastodons you know those
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especially Masson on social and this hatred. It's just like Musk
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is literally hated. For what because
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Adam Curry: it's advertising based media. This what you're
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hearing now with Kara and Jake, and it's wrestling. It's
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theater. It's not real. He's the heel. He's in on the game.
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John C Dvorak: I I'm not arguing that point of it. But I read
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from guys that I know are sincere. They sincerely hate
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musk and I think Kara is one of them. Oh, show your hatred
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despises
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Adam Curry: him. Yes. Because he doesn't talk to her anymore. He
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doesn't do interviews over the holiday weekend. She ran an old
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interview me or Elon, don't talk to me anymore. So I'm gonna run
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the old interviews. You can see what the old Elon You're right.
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Oh, yeah, she's pathetic, your protege?
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John C Dvorak: A lot of these academic groups, by the way, she
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doesn't even remember my name.
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Unknown: I've talked to all of them and they're very nervous to
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talk because or do reports it's it has a chilling effect on
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these because they're going to be subject to a lawsuit by the
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world's richest man who the reason advertising is down is
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because it's a worst platform. That's it. And so, you know, his
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tactic is and I hate to say it is playing the TOS. That's what
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he's doing right here. And so that's why everybody's tweets
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are very carefully calibrated to sort of dog whistle to a lot of
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people and at the same time, go but I'm not an anti dog
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John C Dvorak: whistle.
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Adam Curry: I would be okay if it was just CNN and Kara Swisher
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but everybody was all over this. And so MSNBC part of the NBC
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family of stations. Joe Scarborough Morning Joe brings
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in Andrew Ross Sorkin because of course, we've got to fight do
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with Jude Law. This is a witch on
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Unknown: I remember beforehand on the show, asking Kara Swisher
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Why would he do this? This makes absolutely no sense notice
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Adam Curry: Kara Swisher also talked to MSNBC. Why is Kara
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Swisher the one that is that is the expert on all of this. Why
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don't they call you the person who taught her on tech, all
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things tech? I mean, this is this is interesting and
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Unknown: business wise. This is a nightmare. He shouldn't do
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this. Why aren't people stopping him from doing this? Why are his
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lawyers stopping him from doing this? This is going to be a
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nightmare. Even I couldn't imagine that it would be this
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bad of a nightmare, Andrew. So is there anybody in his orbit
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that can talk about an exit strategy. So one of the most
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brilliant creators of our time can get back.
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Adam Curry: This is this is the interesting part. That it always
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goes like this. I love Tesla. I hate Elon. I like he's a genius,
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one of the greatest minds of our time, which he's not he didn't
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invent Tesla. He didn't invent rockets. He bought Tesla it was
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Mike Morris and rule of both are the geniuses if you ask me, but
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you always genius. He drills holes in the ground. But why
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does he hate the Jews? Come on people this theater to creating
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Unknown: things and and changing lives instead of being down in
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some social media mud pit. I think that's frankly, what Lindy
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Ocarina is trying to do. That's what she's been brought on to
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do. But I think that at the same time, there's this great
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conundrum that Elon Musk has created himself, which is he
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wants this to be this, you know, full on laissez faire free
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speech platform and at the same time, he needs money. He needs
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revenue from advertisers and irrespective of what you think
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you're seeing on this platform. Advertisers are voting with
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their feet. They're voting with their their pocketbook. They're
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looking at what they're seeing on Twitter and they're deciding
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that they think it's not a brand safe place to be
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Adam Curry: Sorkin is is he's buying into it. The he's he's
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from CNBC, Sorkin thinks that Elon Musk New York Times hack
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the wall. Yeah, that too. But he's out every morning. He's on
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CNBC. Yeah, that's what he does. And so he brings on the
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director, the executive director, the CEO of the anti
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Defamation League. This is Jonathan Greenblatt. I mean,
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this is this has been blown out and Twitter X, the company
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formula was Twitter. It's not public company anymore. Who
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cares? Why do you care? What is the big deal? He's not going to
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be doing using it not driving an advertising based business. He
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wants to be your bank. He's He's, he's you can buy sponsored
19:25
tweets. This has nothing to do with advertising anymore, which
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is down and very much dead online right now.
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Unknown: I thought you had a decent relationship with Elon
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Musk. We've had a number of conversations over the last
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several months where you've come on and been supportive. So what
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what happened here?
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Well, so let's get back. Right. So I had a meeting last week
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with Lindy ocarina, the new CEO of Twitter, right right at home
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request, right. productive conversation. I tweeted
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afterwards about that fact that we had a frank and productive
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conversation, as I've had with Elon Elon Musk in the past and
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then that triggered a number of white supremacists to organize
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this hashtag campaign banned the ADL.
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Adam Curry: Okay, so the big offense here is white
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supremacists. And I think if you put I'm a white supremacist in
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your profile, then you can be identified. They put a hashtag
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ban, the ADL, and this set this whole thing in motion. This is
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why this guy is so bent out of shape.
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Unknown: And you got to understand and we're used to
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this at the ADL, we regularly get attacked by the right and
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the left. But this campaign went viral, very thorough with white
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supremacists, you know, hardened anti Semites, hardened anti
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Semite writing it across the surface in funding topic. Over
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the course of the weekend.
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Adam Curry: It was a trending topic. What is this John, what
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is going on? Why are these people so? Oh, he was a trending
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topic, Ben, the ADL where they themselves started the hashtag
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stop the hate is because they don't they don't control it.
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They don't control it. And it's the only one that matters.
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According to Joe Scarborough.
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Unknown: I want to throw this open to everybody. I guess.
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something fascinating has happened. I think like a lot of
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people like jumped over to threads. I've actually jumped
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over to threads,
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Adam Curry: threads he jumped over to uses thread.
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Unknown: And everybody on this show will tell you and I'm sure
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you feel the same way Twitter was always extraordinary for its
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newsfeed even when oh yes phrase extraordinary easy on there. I
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would still get my news feed from there and learn in five
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minutes what I what I needed to know for at least that day, it
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was pretty crazy. The threads thread I'll be honest, I'm I'm
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jumping back and forth but I don't see the same vitality on
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threads. I can't get the nose. Still even from the left, not
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the engagement on threads. You gotta go to blue sky that there
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still is on the X so nice.
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Adam Curry: Oh, he said on the X we didn't even say formerly
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known as he just said on the X. He's branding
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Unknown: I'm not on either one of them a whole lot but I'm
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curious so we had this you our threads explosion at the
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beginning. It seemed to have died down and I can just say as
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a user. There's no forget maybe Donnie or somebody talked about
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squeezing the juice from something there just doesn't
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seem to be juice on threads right now.
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Right I don't I don't disagree with you. I
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have the same experience.
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Adam Curry: There's no juice on threads right now. This is this
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is so looser juice. Exactly. This is what I like so much. He
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used the juice word there's a lot of juice hate. No man. It
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just cracks me up and people are the the mainstream has nothing
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better to do. Clip after clip after clip. ball will go Oh, and
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they all when Elon Musk bought Twitter. They all were we're
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going to Mastodon and they went to Mastodon and found out they
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couldn't rule the roost because there's no retweets on Mastodon
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there's no good and then they all went we're going to blue sky
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and blue sky if you used to have you been
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John C Dvorak: you can reach tweet on Mastodon but you can't
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read a tweet with a comment
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Adam Curry: yes correct you can boost that's right you can't you
23:21
can't read tweet with a quote your quote post whatever quote
23:25
tweet, quote retweet whatever,
23:28
John C Dvorak: which was, which by the way was rather new on
23:31
Twitter itself initially never had that feature. And he always
23:35
had the effect didn't have retweets at all. You had to do
23:38
our T caps are T and then you cut and paste and do it
23:43
yourself.
23:43
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, our T That's right. Our T that's how
23:45
it started. It's just it's it's I find it hilarious that this is
23:51
a thing. Oh, we have to talk about this. is hate speech hate
23:57
speech? Well, this is promoting Twitter. The x as far as I'm
24:02
concerned. Everybody wants to go where there's strife. That's the
24:06
holy you
24:06
John C Dvorak: want to go where there's action? Yeah, actually,
24:08
thank
24:08
Adam Curry: you action. We want to action we want to action. But
24:12
meanwhile, you can't really get a story about what's happening
24:15
in New York, which is not unique to New York. And we talk to
24:22
family members in Chicago and they're very angry at Austin,
24:25
Texas. Very angry.
24:27
John C Dvorak: Text. What did you horrible Texans do employees
24:30
shipped up yet you're being invaded with?
24:33
Adam Curry: We've got you've got migrants sleeping in airports
24:37
sleeping in police stations. Oh, now it's in Chicago, the whole
24:40
12 district. The whole the vestibule is completely filled
24:44
with people who are sleeping there. And then Mayor Adams of
24:47
New York, the mayor said that sanctuary city sanctuary city,
24:56
the governor said it to the mayor the mayor said it and Now
25:00
it's a problem. Never in
25:01
Unknown: my life. Have I had a problem that I did not see in
25:05
India to see a hint into this. I don't see Indian tourists. This
25:12
issue will destroy New York City. Destroy New York City.
25:19
We're getting 10,000 migrants among
25:24
John C Dvorak: mine. One time, we will just hold on a second.
25:28
Just stop. Compare that to Texas. 10,000, Texas and Texas,
25:34
by the way, I would say is handling it rather well compared
25:38
to these whiners. In the sanctuary cities. They get
25:42
10,000 a month, which is nothing. And it's going to ruin
25:47
the city.
25:48
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, it's they're dead already. Listen.
25:54
Unknown: One time we were just in Venezuela. Now we can
25:58
Ecuador. Now we can, roughly speaking coming through Mexico.
26:02
Now we didn't a Western Africa. Now we're getting people from
26:06
all over the globe that made their minds up that they're
26:08
going to come through the southern part of the border and
26:11
come into New York City. And everyone is saying is New York
26:15
City's problem. Every community in this city is going to be
26:21
impacted, we had a $12 billion deficit that we're going to have
26:26
to cut, every service in this city is going to be impacted all
26:33
of us. So I say to you, as I turn it over to you. This is
26:38
some some of the most educated some of the most knowledgeable,
26:43
probably more of my commissioners and Deputy
26:45
Commissioners and chiefs live in this community. So as you asked
26:50
me a question about migrants tell me what role to play. How
26:55
many of you organize to stop what they're doing to us?
26:58
Adam Curry: Ah, notice what he says to stop what they're doing
27:01
to us. The House Divided will not stand if you're going to pit
27:05
New York against Texas and Chicago against Texas, that that
27:09
right? There is the most unpatriotic thing I've ever
27:11
heard anyone say in politics. He is pitting state against state.
27:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's what you do. Now a couple
27:20
of things. Here's a couple of ways to stop. And first of all,
27:23
if you recall, when they sent the first buses up there, they
27:27
were welcoming them welcoming, welcoming them with open arms
27:32
and a clipboard. And here's here's your 10 bucks. Here's
27:35
some money
27:36
Adam Curry: in 10. Here's your cell phone. He's just 20
27:39
John C Dvorak: Here you go. Here's this and they were
27:41
welcoming you to New York. So there was that one, the second
27:46
thing is just dropped the sanctuary city bull crap. Yeah.
27:51
Just say because Texas, according to Abbott is only
27:55
sending these states, these these migrants to sanctuary
27:58
cities who are are so arrogant about being sanctuary cities.
28:03
Just say we're not a sanctuary city anymore. We were
28:07
cooperating with ice and all the rest of it, that goes, goes
28:11
away. They won't do that. So whose fault is this? They
28:17
welcome them with open arms. They claim to be sanctuary
28:21
cities and they keep the claim they don't put that in abeyance,
28:24
which they could easily do. And then they moan and groan
28:29
Adam Curry: but I think this is the intent here is the same
28:32
that's going on in most of the West. Is to ruin the West. Ruin
28:38
America ruin Europe. We're doing great job and you're we're
28:40
helping out in Europe is great.
28:44
John C Dvorak: You mean the west by by? When you say the West?
28:47
You mean Western civilization? Yes.
28:49
Adam Curry: That's what I mean. Western civilization. Yes. Yeah,
28:53
you start with the cities ruin the cities. Yeah, that's
28:56
John C Dvorak: what Marxists have to do to get a handle on
28:59
these things. Yeah. And it's a Marxist thing. Marxism at work?
29:04
Yes. And they're doing a much better job than anybody else.
29:09
And we have open we have people like the squad, we have people
29:14
in Congress, the Democrats socialists that are open
29:17
Marxist, they did this is like, I'm a communist. There are
29:22
people, students in colleges around this country that will
29:27
openly say I'm a communist. This is not good.
29:31
Adam Curry: No. And now let's just look at Europe, where the
29:34
choleric gi plan is, in effect, Germany, and we had a big hand
29:37
in this. Oh, I'm sorry. It was someone on a sailboat who blew
29:40
up the Nord Stream. So Germany, companies like BASF SAP, they're
29:45
leaving Germany. They have to enter she drives they can't
29:49
afford they can't afford. There's bankruptcies. There's
29:52
huge inflation. There's mass layoffs, high unemployment.
29:56
There's hundreds of protests was hundreds of 1000s of people. You
30:00
are not seeing you're not seeing this on your mainstream France
30:06
is being systematically ruined. And it's you know, and McCrone
30:13
is just like no, it's all fine don't worry about it. You know,
30:15
uranium prices are going through the roof for their energy, the
30:18
all these countries that they were in charge of and print
30:22
their money for all revolting and writing it. Where's the
30:26
Netherlands? The farmers no farmers love getting rid of the
30:30
farmers, the UK all their infrastructure money and believe
30:33
me having lived in the UK, the infrastructure money is
30:36
important thought being sent to Ukraine. Immigration is
30:40
replacing indigenous families. By everything, the only the rich
30:46
people are the bankers, the green bullcrap or the bankers.
30:50
Yeah, the drug addiction, trans Maoism. What we did to Africa
30:54
we're now doing to the west. Well, we whoever we is, I'm just
30:58
gonna say it's, oh, I can't say it's like the Rockefellers or
31:01
the Rothschilds or anything like that, because the ADL but it's
31:06
you should
31:08
John C Dvorak: you should read this just to show how crazy
31:12
things are. And this is not quite on. Perfect topic. But I
31:16
think is her letter worth reading is the guy they are
31:20
younger a member who went to auditions. Yes.
31:24
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second. Let
31:25
Unknown: me pull that up. This is a good note to read.
31:27
Adam Curry: It's funny you say that because I I didn't actually
31:32
put it in my notes to read because I was like, you know,
31:34
and I wished him well and everything I thought you know,
31:37
maybe that was a goodness, you don't happen to have that on
31:42
hand. Pretty quick. It was it was a great note. Goodness, I
31:49
did not put that into my show notes. Then when he went to an
31:54
Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, it's like a big powwow. It
31:58
John C Dvorak: was a big and 4000 minute you know powwow
32:00
which is kind of odd, but they had a big super meet up of a
32:05
member of yelling yelling most of the I think a members that
32:10
were had. I didn't it was like, I guess steering committees or
32:16
somebody that they met in San Francisco. And actually sent him
32:20
a note couple notes back including this last one. I can
32:23
just look that up.
32:26
Unknown: Here it is.
32:27
Adam Curry: I have it here. I'm reaching out to get boots on the
32:30
ground report from Alcoholics Anonymous. First off, I'm a
32:33
young person in AAA I just started going February this
32:36
year. I'm involved with the young persons committee in my
32:38
area. The last weekend September 1 through the third I attended
32:41
an international young people's of AAA convention in San
32:44
Francisco at the Marriott Marquis. There are about 4000
32:47
people from mostly around the US but some from around the world.
32:51
There were many AAA related events, but there were two major
32:54
speaker events where nearly everyone gathered in an
32:56
auditorium to listen to them speak. The first speaker was a
33:00
black trans woman. And the second speaker was a super
33:03
flaming white gay man. As you can imagine, there was some woke
33:06
woke propaganda injected in their shares. Surprisingly, the
33:10
white gay man pushed the idea of privilege and not feeling like
33:13
he even belonged in the AAA rooms because of his sexuality
33:16
compared to the trans woman. It just irritates me that not even
33:20
in the AAA can we get away from the woke messaging? I just want
33:24
to learn to live in recovery and not drink not to be told to look
33:28
at the world through race and privilege. Ay ay ay is the one
33:31
place that I felt doesn't care about your age, race, gender,
33:35
sexuality, politics, etc. Because we're all bonded
33:38
together by the incomprehensible demoralisation we felt when we
33:42
hit rock bottom, just want to share it the woke mind virus is
33:46
truly spreading in every crevice of society. Thank you for all
33:49
your work.
33:51
John C Dvorak: Marxism and I, my last comment to him was that
33:55
this was a episode of corrupted an example of corrupted
34:01
leadership. Someone hired someone hired a woke a hole and
34:07
here you go, that's, you know, this is one of the little themes
34:11
that I've had on this show, which is that don't hire these
34:14
people. They're a plague. They're a cancer, you get them
34:17
in your organization. And the next thing you know you've got
34:20
something like this happening.
34:23
Adam Curry: Which brings me to a clip which I was not going to
34:25
play. I think I have to, this is one of those people you're
34:29
talking about. This looks like a woman. She has orange hair. She
34:33
has a woman figure I can tell and she's in her car now her
34:37
eyebrows are shaved with no gaps in them because I think that's
34:40
cool. Obviously. She's got you know, blown out ear holes and
34:44
everything and some piercings. It doesn't really I don't gauged
34:48
Yeah, it's like okay, and upcard undercard fade card was all
34:54
fine, you know as long as you're good worker but this is the
34:57
message she said
34:58
Unknown: she thinks I'm non binary go at them. Okay,
35:01
Adam Curry: non binary is not a thing, lady, I'm just sorry, I'm
35:04
not gonna stand for it anymore. But you're I'm poor. I said,
35:06
lady,
35:07
Unknown: she thinks I'm non binary, I go at them. And I work
35:11
in a store that is pretty much all women. So whenever they're
35:15
like addressing us, or when they're talking, they're always
35:17
like, Hey, ladies. So I've taken it upon myself as someone that
35:20
is non binary, to use this to not listen. And whenever anyone
35:26
addresses a group as ladies, I am not included. So when they
35:30
say, Hey, ladies, let's like stop talking, or Hey, ladies,
35:33
let's like get to work. I will do none of it. Because you're
35:37
not talking to me. You're not talking to me. You're not
35:39
talking to me. So I will not listen to anything that I said.
35:45
When it is started with Hey, ladies. I'm a lady, not a lady.
35:51
They
35:52
Adam Curry: have AD. There you go. Your
35:55
John C Dvorak: ad I this is a new one. They do. They do. They
35:59
Adam Curry: do ad
36:01
Unknown: now it's time for our trouble smiles.
36:04
Adam Curry: destruct initiated because they do that they ad. By
36:10
the way, on the trans mouse agenda, which took down Anheuser
36:14
Busch, we've been looking for the turnaround for the stock
36:19
signal, if you will, this is what you said, you know, this is
36:22
what you do. Like you got to hammer this you got you got to
36:25
short it on the way down. You got to head up. And there's
36:28
various and Yeah, well, Bill Gates apparently just bought 1.7
36:33
million shares of Anheuser Busch InBev.
36:37
John C Dvorak: He's one of those guys. He doesn't do these
36:40
investments. He has a team of people. Oh, yeah. That are his
36:44
investment team. That means a lot of it. There's not one or
36:47
two guys. It's not it's like,
36:50
Adam Curry: but that means that the CEO probably is about to go.
36:53
I mean, there's got to be something coming up.
36:55
John C Dvorak: That's got to be one of them. The one I've been
36:57
following, we're using the same idea is target. Yeah, target.
37:03
Same idea. Yeah. Which was the CEO gets fired. That's it.
37:07
That's it long term. Investment seems to me, and it's not an
37:11
investment advice. I don't give investment advice.
37:13
Unknown: It's not investment advice at all. We're just
37:15
telling you the obvious.
37:19
Adam Curry: So on the destruction of Europe, which is
37:22
really the catalyst is Ukraine. We're doing a great job of that
37:27
great job even uh, you know, I think it was it was, what's your
37:31
face? Nancy, Nancy Pelosi was talking to BBC is Hard Talk. And
37:37
she explained quite beautifully, what, what is going on with us
37:41
and while she says Europe, but we understand what's happening,
37:44
but the US doesn't need China when it comes to climate change
37:47
is the US showing leadership because the reality is while Joe
37:51
Biden is spending 10s and 10s of billions of dollars on the
37:55
energy transition on renewables on infrastructure to create some
37:59
sort of green economy, oil output is at record levels,
38:03
record levels of exports of liquefied natural gas, the
38:07
United States essentially is giving the world a message of we
38:10
want to have our cake and eat it too. We want to talk green, but
38:13
we want to deliver fossil fuel
38:15
Unknown: revenue, the spirit of your title of Hard Talk, you're
38:18
completely
38:19
wrong.
38:28
Completely wrong.
38:29
You're not making any differentiation. You're just
38:31
paying the liquefied natural gas issue is an issue to supply
38:35
countries that need it because they don't have to be dependent
38:39
on Russia. I myself have had my back and forth with the Chinese
38:43
government.
38:43
Adam Curry: Alright, so you don't need to hear any more of
38:45
that. So that is truly what we did. We blew up the pipeline.
38:49
I'm saying we America Americans blew up the pipeline not some
38:52
guys from Ukraine on a sailboat. We blew up the pipelines Thank
38:57
you, Seymour Hersh for setting it out straight. Why is he so
39:00
alive? And and then we built overnight, we built a liquid
39:06
petroleum gas terminals. We do have floating terminals in
39:09
Europe. Don't worry, we're gonna save you all take, oh, it's a
39:12
little expensive, but don't worry about it. And then all of
39:16
a sudden, all of a sudden. We have this happening.
39:22
Unknown: Turning out of the war in Ukraine, Russia unleashed one
39:24
of its worst attacks on civilians in months today, a
39:27
missile strike in eastern Ukraine, killing at least 17
39:30
people and wounding dozens. The attack unfolding as Secretary of
39:34
State Antony Blinken returned to the warzone with a new aid
39:37
package for America's biggest ally. CBS is empty as Taya
39:41
reports from Keith
39:42
Adam Curry: I love how just as Blinken does a covert mission
39:47
there he sneaks in. We've got pictures of him going through
39:50
papers and what looks like a train car or something. Maybe
39:53
that's in that special underground bunker and he's got
39:55
his you know, he's got his civilian like his is his hood.
40:00
He and he's all zipped up and he's doing important work and
40:02
his pictures of him all stylized and then we have some missile
40:07
that comes in kills 17 people in a child and all was right on
40:11
time. Good to have you there blink.
40:13
Unknown: The moment to Russian missiles slammed into a busy
40:15
outdoor muzzle nice bringing fire engine effects through the
40:20
streets of Constantine Meyer death. The carnage in the
40:23
eastern Donetsk region is one of the deadliest Russian assaults
40:26
in must and came shortly after missiles targeting Keith were
40:31
shocked down by Ukrainian air defenses. As Secretary of State
40:34
Antony Blinken was traveling to the Capitol by train on an
40:38
unannounced two day trip.
40:39
Adam Curry: There you go. He was on a train spur since
40:42
Unknown: the start of Ukraine's counter offensive nearly three
40:44
months ago,
40:45
Adam Curry: but it does not make any sense to you. That's how
40:49
you're going to send the secretary of state into Ukraine
40:52
by train. Don't you think it'd be a military aircraft that
40:57
would come in you know that have F sixteens accompanying and do
41:00
all kinds of stuff, but he know they put them on a train. And
41:04
where did the train come from?
41:06
John C Dvorak: Does it work? Okay, let's there's a trend is
41:08
probably from Poland does where the train comes from? Okay, why
41:13
don't the if this is so what it is? Why don't the Russians just
41:17
blow up that train track? The one missiles just take out a
41:22
mile?
41:23
Adam Curry: I'm not even sure that missile was from Russia. No
41:25
one in Russia said Yeah, we did that. Usually,
41:28
John C Dvorak: I'm not sure if anything after you actually one
41:32
of the things that you said when when the Russians hit that hotel
41:36
or whatever it was out of the blue. And it turned out that
41:38
there was a drone conference going on. There was a trade show
41:44
for drone manufacturers this place and not one mainstream
41:49
media operation reported on it. You got it from some European
41:52
source. And ever since then, it's like this is bullcrap. We
41:56
don't know anything going on. All we know is that Blinken went
41:58
over there promised another billion after the idiot, which I
42:03
mentioned in the news. I think it was in the newsletter that
42:06
Zelinsky sent some drones into pole in and into Russia and
42:12
blamed the Russians by come on NATO read they need to be nuked.
42:17
Yep, suggest that nuke nuclear bombs. Yeah, this is a smart guy
42:22
from NATO because of these attacks on Poland and Romania
42:26
that he did. Yeah. fact that that's going on in that blink
42:30
and goes over okay, well, let's don't do that again, because
42:33
it's embarrassing us.
42:35
Adam Curry: There's something else going on here. Blinken is
42:37
not just there for let's finish this report. And then we'll get
42:42
into offensive
42:43
Unknown: nearly three months ago by a blanket arrived with a
42:46
promise of a further billion dollars in military aid. That
42:49
includes controversial depleted uranium munitions,
42:53
and the ongoing counter offense. Progress has accelerated in the
42:57
past few weeks. This new assistance will help sustain it
43:01
and build further momentum.
43:03
Adam Curry: Okay, now before we go on, so and he's made this
43:06
statement has been all over the news. They've made progress,
43:10
significant progress in the counter offensive, please go to
43:15
counter map.no agenda notes.com to see the significant progress
43:21
they have made. John do you ever browser is it.com? No. Yes, it's
43:26
counter map.no agenda notes.com. Then you'll see the you'll see
43:35
the region the you'll see the region this is red. That is the
43:41
entire legend. It did it. Um, do you see the little blue? by Adam
43:46
curry. Do you see the little blue? Do you see the little blue
43:49
things? Yeah, that's the progress. Significant progress
43:55
by the counter offensive? No, there's no progress. That's
44:00
nothing we did
44:02
Unknown: uranium munitions. In the ongoing counter offense.
44:06
Progress has accelerated
44:07
accelerated past few weeks. This new assistance will help sustain
44:12
and build further momentum.
44:15
In recent days, Ukrainian forces have pushed further south in
44:18
this upper region region. But progress is painfully slow
44:21
thanks to Russian airstrikes and minefields as president Solinsky
44:26
also navigates political minefields. This week he removed
44:30
defense minister Alexei Resnikoff for failing to tackle
44:33
corruption replaced him with Rustom O'Meara, who has a
44:36
reputation as an anti corruption campaigner who's now responsible
44:41
for overseeing billions of dollars in military funds. Now
44:47
as the war grinds on and Ukraine continues to seek outside
44:50
support, President Solinsky wants his Western backers to
44:53
know he's willing to take a hard line on corruption, while also
44:57
continuing to fight off Russia. And it's deadly Attack. So
45:00
that's
45:01
Adam Curry: that's just a tagline in the story, a tagline
45:04
about the corruption and I have a boots on the ground report
45:06
which is going to
45:07
John C Dvorak: go before you play that. I want to ask you
45:10
something because there's, I think pieces have to be changed.
45:16
Why? And it was just mentioned in passing, but we don't. But
45:19
the idea of using depleted uranium, which poisons the the
45:26
gunners it poisons everybody, but it's all being blowed up.
45:31
And powder pulverized used as as ammunition in Ukraine is not you
45:37
know, this is not good for the country, because because this
45:40
okay, they were trained to just kill off the Ukrainians is
45:44
because their tests
45:45
Adam Curry: No, no, that whole red region you see on that map
45:49
is filled with cluster bombs mines, but you might as well
45:54
throw some depleted uranium in there because that will be the
45:57
demilitarized zone, it will be uninhabitable. I think that's
46:02
the idea. And if we kill a few Ukrainians or Russians, and
46:05
nobody seems to care, because this is this is about these
46:09
people personally. Blinken Biden, this goes much deeper
46:13
before a Blinken showed up in his train car to bring with a
46:19
billion dollars. This was the headline, and surprisingly from
46:24
France 24 Maybe unsurprisingly, since France and France
46:27
understands they're under attack now is what they're like, Oh,
46:29
well, the Americans are screwing us over here. This was the
46:32
headline
46:33
Unknown: Alexei Resnikoff has been Ukraine's defense minister
46:37
since before the war broke out. The military jacket scandal was
46:41
the ultimate corruption case his ministry has had to face like in
46:46
previous scandals products, this time jackets were ordered for an
46:51
initial price. But in the end, Ukraine paid several times more
46:55
to come on top of this. It appears the jackets are
46:58
completely useless. The order was for winter jackets, but the
47:02
ones delivered from Turkey or summer wants to minister denied
47:06
the allegations.
47:09
We'll discuss in the flood norm was the opposite Cardinal has
47:11
one investigative journalist said in one of his posts, the
47:14
ministry bought summer jackets three times cheaper. And then
47:18
through a Harry Potter Magic Stick operation. They turned
47:22
into winter jackets. This is not true.
47:27
Certainly problem. This is just the latest in several scandals
47:31
which isn't new for Ukraine. The country ranks 116 out of 180 on
47:39
the international Corruption Perceptions Index. Before the
47:43
jackets Ukrainian authorities say there was food also
47:47
purchased for soldiers at a price that is several times the
47:51
market price. There is also widespread corruption linked to
47:55
military recruitments. The people shown here are not
47:59
involved. 1000s of young Ukrainians have tried to either
48:02
avoid or flee the battlefield. Ukrainian investigators say
48:07
various officials have accepted bribes to help them escape or
48:12
get medical exemptions
48:15
are already 112 criminal proceedings against officials of
48:18
the recruitment centers 33 suspects
48:21
the most striking case may be the one involving the
48:25
recruitment official in Odessa, who use some of the money he
48:29
reportedly embezzled to buy this villa in Spain.
48:34
Adam Curry: To everybody in Europe who lives in Europe in
48:37
Poland in Vienna. They've seen the rich Ukrainians that they
48:42
drove their Rolls Royces, their Ferraris, everybody left the
48:46
country, they're all hanging out having a good time. There's
48:50
money flowing everywhere. There's huge real estate being
48:53
purchased. This was always the most corrupt country in the
48:57
entire region. Everybody, I grew up in Europe, everyone knew it.
49:02
This is not like a surprise. We have a lawyer friend here in
49:07
Texas, who sent me the following boots on the ground. This comes
49:13
from a good friend of his who has relevant knowledge in the
49:17
field and significant exposure to some of the players. He's a
49:20
well known investment banker who's dealt with the biggest
49:23
business interests in Ukraine. This experience has yielded
49:27
credible insights and most that most people don't have. At the
49:31
risk of sounding paranoid. He's asked me to withhold his name.
49:34
Well, I'm gonna take it as as credible. I want to respect his
49:39
anonymity and simply relay his insights for your consideration.
49:42
No one is looking for credit or notoriety here. He's simply
49:44
offering your perspective that the press will never adopt
49:47
because it divergence from the narrative that Ukraine is above
49:49
reproach. It also highlights American involvement in an
49:53
unflattering way. Until about a decade ago, post Soviet
49:57
Ukrainian oligarchs think Igor Kolomoisky Kolomoisky the guy
50:01
who owns all the media, the guy who set up Zelinsky as the
50:05
president in the in the TV series, how the actor became the
50:09
president and Victor Pinchuk, these are all the guys behind
50:13
Burisma. These these are the oligarchs of Ukraine. They
50:16
controlled Ukrainian natural resources such as manganese
50:20
Ferro alloys key ingredient in steel production. Political
50:24
events wrench these resources from the oligarchs grasp, and
50:28
these kingpins now want their assets back. Fortunately for
50:33
them, they had forged close relationships with American
50:36
business interests and politicians, among them Hunter
50:40
Biden who of course needs no introduction. These cozy affairs
50:43
are less than ethically pure. My friend's view admittedly, his
50:47
opinion but highly informed is that these Ukrainian strong men
50:51
lobby their American business and political associates to
50:54
bring NATO to Russia's doorstep to facilitate the oligarchy
50:58
eventual recovery of their former interests without Russian
51:01
meddling, but Russia did not comply. My friend makes a
51:05
further suggestion that the Biden administration's inability
51:09
to deter Russians has vexed Kolomoisky who has now upped the
51:13
ante by divulging unsavory information about American
51:18
players such as the Biden's thereby firing a shot across the
51:21
bow of American politicians and prompting the State Department
51:25
to denounce and discredit Kolomoisky. Fast forward to
51:29
Kolomoisky has reported arrest last week, along with American
51:32
attempts to extradite him to the USA for prosecution. As time
51:36
passes, my friend's informed perspective seems increasingly
51:39
credible. He's being protected. Blinken is there to protect his
51:44
own as Blinken has a consulting company, blink, all these people
51:48
are complicit. Every single one of them. And now Now the big
51:52
boys are playing hardball. And this is why more money needs to
51:56
go Oh, send Anthony over this sense more mind. Don't worry.
51:59
We'll take care of it. They think things are unraveling.
52:03
unraveling. And if you look at Blinken space keys not they're
52:08
out of Oh, good job. Everybody thinks those little red dots,
52:11
little blue dots on the red map. He's there because he's afraid
52:15
they're afraid now that I take this to be a good piece of boots
52:20
on the ground.
52:22
John C Dvorak: I like it. And the funny thing is it has that
52:24
element of they want to extradite that guy than the TV
52:29
guy up to the United States. under what circumstance? Do we
52:32
have the We the umbrella?
52:37
Adam Curry: We don't
52:38
John C Dvorak: what laws of ours did he break?
52:43
Adam Curry: Well, Ukraine is our ally, of course, our ally,
52:46
John C Dvorak: which doesn't mean that we can arrest our
52:48
solution.
52:49
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. This is so much theater. This is
52:54
about rich people here destroying Europe about you know
53:00
stealing stuff. This all I mean, the stealing stuff is the key
53:04
stealing stuff. I mean, look at who has some of that land. Now,
53:08
Cargill, you know, we stole it from those guys. They're like,
53:12
hey, hey, hey, we want this back. Now, you only have to
53:17
think about Biden with this billion dollars to you, you're
53:19
not going to get a billion dollars it unless you fire the
53:22
prosecutor you could also read as here's a billion dollars by
53:24
the prosecutor. Just it's just a matter of positioning. And
53:29
they've got the dumbest peep that also dumb
53:33
John C Dvorak: because it'll blink and just look stupid.
53:35
Yeah.
53:35
Adam Curry: But all this has been going on for so long.
53:40
Particularly with the complicit nature of the media, which and I
53:43
see you brought the clips. I'm kind of glad you did. Because I
53:46
was like, I couldn't even bring myself to watch the whole thing.
53:50
But but somehow somehow Tucker Carlson has taken it upon
53:54
himself to shatter nope to show the world a I don't know, I
54:00
don't think this is about Obama necessarily. It's more like,
54:04
look how how this is, if Tucker's clean which I think we
54:09
have to question
54:10
John C Dvorak: that well, can I throw another little wrench into
54:13
the Sure, sure. Do. We know that Tucker's still not working for
54:17
Fox? We
54:18
Adam Curry: don't we've heard nothing about the lawsuit. We
54:21
there's no
54:21
John C Dvorak: nothing about the Joni million that he gets from
54:24
Fox anything. Is it possible that they Tucker wanted to do
54:28
these get do some stuff that Fox has now you can't really do it
54:31
on our network? Let's do this.
54:33
Adam Curry: Totally, totally possible. And by the way, and
54:36
his
54:37
John C Dvorak: current set that he's using looks very Fox like
54:41
Adam Curry: that's a good point.
54:43
John C Dvorak: Well, it does. What
54:44
Adam Curry: got me is I could have sworn I could have really
54:48
could have sworn that Larry Sinclair had died. I'm so sure
54:56
that he had passed away. I don't understand how I mean, I really
55:01
thought he had died. And I, and I want you to play these clips
55:05
because there's stuff to be discussed here. I think it's
55:08
more a message about mainstream media than it is about Obama,
55:13
but maybe I'm wrong. But I just want to bring some receipts here
55:17
for a moment. No agenda Show Episode 250, August 2 2010 13
55:27
years ago. Let's go back into them. Everybody. Come on with
55:30
me. Speaking of which, the Obama gayness meme has been reignited.
55:40
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's a good one. Seriously, and what
55:43
did they owe to Obama's? Is it the one that we see with the
55:46
gray hair or the one without the gray hair?
55:49
Adam Curry: But it's, it's it's really weird. Remember? That was
55:52
like couple years ago? Yeah, there was some guy that Larry
55:55
Larry Sinclair,
55:56
John C Dvorak: but now okay. He's a maniac.
55:58
Adam Curry: Now. Here it is. It's very and this is very
56:02
interesting from the Washington insider. President Obama and his
56:06
Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay
56:09
bathhouse and uptown Chicago. According to informed sources in
56:13
Chicago's gay community. The bathhouse man's country, caters
56:18
to old white men and has been in business for some 30 years known
56:21
as one of Uptown Chicago's grand old bathhouses. And this article
56:25
just got I mean, there's a lot of people copying this. And
56:29
they're relating this back to the blog blog blog boy of itch
56:33
trial. That apparently
56:37
John C Dvorak: this is maybe one of those things. Boy, this is
56:39
holding on to.
56:41
Adam Curry: Exactly. Yeah, apparently, in these tapes that
56:45
I guess we're not going to get to hear. The whole thing is that
56:51
Obama was actually trying to get his Senate seat for one of his
56:54
gay lovers. It just the plot thickens. It just gets better
56:58
and better. And then there's no there's a lot of stuff about ROM
57:01
that he always he only travels with a male companion and they
57:04
go on vacation together kind of like an Oprah Gail type thing.
57:11
We're going to so we unveiled that there's a lot more behind
57:14
the Obama gay meme. There's blood Goya that you got locked
57:19
up, there's the whole way that President Obama came into his
57:25
Senate seat, which was also done by a sex scandal involving the
57:30
lady from Deep Space Nine. And you know, then you bring in Rahm
57:34
Emanuel. Then you bring in all these jokes from Chicago. So
57:38
this, this may be much deeper, it may be just, you know,
57:43
salaciousness on Tucker's part, I'd love to hear what you think
57:47
about it with your QL.
57:48
John C Dvorak: You know, the funny thing is Tucker didn't
57:51
bring up all those elements could have been brought up into
57:54
this conversation. None of it was
57:56
Adam Curry: Jerry Ryan was her name. That's right. None of that
57:59
was brought up.
58:00
John C Dvorak: Wasn't No, it wasn't. Right. It was yeah, it
58:02
Adam Curry: was Jerry Ryan. She's the one her husband she
58:05
claimed that he had abused her if I'm just shooting from the
58:08
John C Dvorak: years Jerry Ryan Jerry, right? It was the Seven
58:11
of Nine. That's,
58:12
Adam Curry: that's the one Seven of Nine. That's the one. It was.
58:17
It's I don't know anything about it was deep state deep, deep
58:21
space, Voyager nine, whatever. I eat
58:26
John C Dvorak: space, Voyager nine,
58:28
Adam Curry: whatever. Yes. It was Jerry Ryan. Seven of 9999.
58:33
Exactly. Cuz she was married to anyway in the Yes. This. This
58:38
was the she was a part of that. Okay, well,
58:40
John C Dvorak: I don't I don't remember the details of that.
58:43
But there was a lot of intrigue. That's for sure. And there's
58:47
Adam Curry: a swingers club, remember? And he was she was the
58:49
guy who forced me into sex.
58:51
John C Dvorak: All right. She didn't want to do any of that
58:52
stuff. Yeah. Which is crazy.
58:54
Adam Curry: I mean, come on. party party.
58:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she, she wants to be gang raped basic.
59:01
No. So I have four clips. And I have thoughts about how she
59:07
wound five thoughts about some of the commentary. There's a few
59:11
things Tucker didn't do. There was targeted it was this was
59:17
targeting Obama to kind of an extreme. The guy, the
59:21
credibility of this person is questionable in a couple of
59:26
instances, because it doesn't really make sense what he says
59:29
in some situation that we'll have they have clips of that. So
59:33
let's start with clip one.
59:35
Unknown: asked me if it was something that you were not
59:37
interested in. And you're right. I've had guys that I've read
59:42
wrong. That would literally
59:44
John C Dvorak: stop I have to set this one up. I can't just
59:45
he's talking about getting
59:47
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Can I just interrupt you for one
59:49
second? Because I just went into my archive.
59:53
John C Dvorak: Another archive clip No, no,
59:55
Adam Curry: no just archive of stories. 20 16 ex Obama lover
1:00:02
Larry Sinclair mowed down by hit and run. I tell you this guy was
1:00:06
dead as he did. Yes. He was supposed to say he's dead.
1:00:10
Obama's alleged gay lover dead. I don't understand where he came
1:00:16
from. How did they go?
1:00:17
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, I should have brought that up to
1:00:19
Yeah,
1:00:19
Adam Curry: I mean, it's all over the search. Okay, I'm
1:00:22
sorry. It is what it
1:00:23
John C Dvorak: says Larry Sinclair, because the gay lover
1:00:25
that did die was the pastor's
1:00:29
Adam Curry: choir guy. Yes. Who was shot in the church?
1:00:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that guy. Yeah, that guy. And they talked
1:00:36
about that a little bit. I didn't, I didn't include any of
1:00:39
it. They're here. They're talking about his first meeting
1:00:42
with Obama in the back of the limousine and how he did
1:00:45
whatever he did to kind of make a pass at him. And then Obama
1:00:50
was all for it and had the crack pipe. And they had, there was a
1:00:58
couple of problems. One, it was like, Larry Sinclair's, I don't
1:01:02
know if people out there some experts should tell me this. I
1:01:05
don't know if it's true. I thought crack was crack. And it
1:01:09
was smoked, and not snorted. But the way they he talks about he
1:01:16
snorted the crack and Obama smoked it. So I thought that was
1:01:20
regular cocaine. That was snort
1:01:22
Adam Curry: it was medicinal crack, John.
1:01:25
John C Dvorak: Well, medicinal. Okay, so let's but anyway, so
1:01:29
he's in the limo. And he's talking about how it's obvious
1:01:31
that Obama was used to this kind of behavior. And
1:01:35
Unknown: if it was something that you were not interested in,
1:01:38
and you're right, I've had guys that I've read wrong, that would
1:01:43
literally try to break your hand for her if you went in that
1:01:47
route. So it's not like this was something that he wasn't into.
1:01:51
It's not something that he was shocked by. Shocked by you don't
1:01:55
get excited, and you don't unbutton your pants and you
1:01:57
don't just sit there and let it happen. Yeah, so it wasn't it
1:02:02
definitely wasn't Brock's first time. That much I'm absolutely
1:02:07
certain of.
1:02:09
And I would almost be one the budget wasn't as lost. So, so
1:02:14
you performed oral sex on I did? You did.
1:02:18
In the drivers up front. Yep. And he's cool with this. The
1:02:21
driver
1:02:21
has the partition up hidden them from my he didn't put it down
1:02:25
for any reason. I mean, he kind of set up the whole thing for
1:02:27
this in the first week. Exactly. And I have a funny feeling he
1:02:30
had no bones to pick with it as far as what took place. Yeah.
1:02:36
Um, so what happened after afterwards, I actually went back
1:02:41
to my hotel, I had specifically asked that he dropped Barak off
1:02:44
first. But for some reason, he and Barak chose that they would
1:02:48
drop me off at the hotel first, and then he would take for up.
1:02:51
So Barack actually made the drive out to Gurney, which is a
1:02:55
suburb, outside of Chicago. To the hotel for me to be dropped
1:03:01
off what hotel was, it was the comfort in Germany. Oh, it
1:03:05
sounds depressing. And well,
1:03:07
Adam Curry: why? You know, I'm so surprised that there has to
1:03:13
be a reason behind this other than, Oh, wow, you know, the
1:03:16
drugs and sex gay sex. Why would you have
1:03:20
John C Dvorak: a Will you may figure it out by the time we're
1:03:23
done. But I had to stop the clip there. Because I thought that
1:03:26
the basic arrogance of Tucker, to say that the comfort in which
1:03:33
is not a bad shame, to say, Oh, that's horrible. Pressing. Yeah.
1:03:39
Oh, I went to the computer. Oh, that sounds so depressed. He's
1:03:42
having he's eight anything that wasn't like, you know, the four
1:03:44
seasons, you
1:03:45
Adam Curry: setting the stage somehow?
1:03:49
John C Dvorak: And that's just Tucker. I think Tucker was just
1:03:51
being himself there being he is because he's not rich. Remember?
1:03:55
Yeah, he's not rich. He's only got 100 million or 200 million
1:03:59
in the bank, which to him is not rich. If you think you're not
1:04:03
rich with that kind of money. You're snobby. You got something
1:04:07
wrong with you? Yeah. So let's go to the second clip
1:04:11
Unknown: got dropped off. They left. The next day was somewhat
1:04:15
interesting, because he ends up showing up at my hotel room,
1:04:18
which I thought was somewhat weird. But he wanted some more.
1:04:24
So when you say he showed up, he just he showed up. I mean, I had
1:04:29
no warning. I was in the room. There's a knock on the door. I
1:04:34
opened the door and he's standing there. And he's
1:04:38
standing there with more coke and he comes in and it was just
1:04:42
like a quick, you know, rehash a rerun, from the night before.
1:04:46
Exact same program, exact same programs. He's smoking again. So
1:04:50
Barack Obama smokes crack and then you perform the sex on him.
1:04:54
And the like I said, The only reason I had come out in about
1:04:58
it is I I had reached out to the campaign even in 2007. Only
1:05:04
because I saw these kids getting excited about Okay, wait, we'll
1:05:08
just adjust. So how did that end? Like, same way?
1:05:13
Adam Curry: Happy Ending Tucker obviously, I've always thought
1:05:17
this was very incredulous this this part of Sinclair story.
1:05:21
Sinclair is not a good looking guy. If you're gonna do all
1:05:26
this, you know, Obama's a pretty good looking guy. Why would you
1:05:28
go and find this guy?
1:05:32
John C Dvorak: I don't know what it looks like 25 years ago,
1:05:34
Adam Curry: well, he had teeth.
1:05:38
John C Dvorak: There was one thing that you know, Tucker is
1:05:40
trying to do this interview and the thing that stood out to me
1:05:43
and I don't want to be lewd about it. But it's something
1:05:47
that that's noteworthy. And it's and we know know about Clintons
1:05:52
member.
1:05:53
Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yeah. bent. Yes.
1:05:57
John C Dvorak: Was there a anchor doesn't ask the simple
1:06:00
question. And it was start like this. I don't want to be lewd
1:06:05
about this. But is there anything remarkable that you can
1:06:08
tell us about Obama's member?
1:06:13
Adam Curry: Well, you should be running in the newsroom over
1:06:15
there, man. You're good. You're good. You're good.
1:06:19
John C Dvorak: It would be that easy to do. And just to say,
1:06:22
because you want to know, you want to know a couple of
1:06:26
lascivious things. One is a black guy. So as you represent
1:06:31
the the large black guy, God, John, or does he represent a zit
1:06:37
did not large? You want? That's a question that you have to ask
1:06:42
in these circumstances, if
1:06:43
Adam Curry: you're gonna do this anyway, if you're gonna go the
1:06:46
blue cheese, do it. What I need you please continue. I need to
1:06:51
understand why you think Tucker is doing this at all. Why Does
1:06:54
anyone care? What is the we're gonna
1:06:57
John C Dvorak: when we get to the end? I think we should try
1:06:58
to figure it out. Okay. I do. I still think it is a shot across
1:07:03
the bow by the CIA to tell Obama to get out of the to back off on
1:07:08
a bun Biden, Biden. There's a couple of things going on in the
1:07:12
administration. Right now. We're Biden, supposedly, I doubt that
1:07:16
Jill Biden has COVID. I
1:07:19
Adam Curry: will agree with you that that was going to come up
1:07:21
later. But I doubt she has COVID too.
1:07:25
John C Dvorak: And they're telling Biden to do this. His
1:07:28
messaging, I'm convinced of it. I know you don't totally buy
1:07:32
into it. But let's go. They've continued these clips.
1:07:34
Unknown: But I was back from Mexico. But it was a strange
1:07:39
feeling sitting there watching him walk across that stage and
1:07:43
realizing who he was. So what did you do? You said, You
1:07:47
reached out to the campaign, why didn't do anything in 2004. But
1:07:51
when he announced his run for 2008, I did reach out to the
1:07:56
campaign in late 2007. Because I had seen a lot of these college
1:08:02
kids talking about how surreal they were how there was a
1:08:07
candidate who was completely honest about his entire life,
1:08:12
his drug use, you know, what he did is when he was in school,
1:08:16
you know, the constant back and forth. One minute is, yes, I did
1:08:20
cocaine when I was younger, or No, I never did cocaine, but I
1:08:23
smoked weed. So I just simply pointed out that all I was
1:08:28
asking was, Look, why don't you just simply come out and say I
1:08:33
did coke and I've done it as recently as 1999. You know, just
1:08:37
tell the truth. Put it out there and be honest and let it stay as
1:08:43
the truth rather than this back and forth. Never did hear
1:08:48
anything back from them immediately had it? Who did you
1:08:53
reach out to? Do you remember I reached out to actually David
1:08:56
Axelrod's office in Chicago. I'm trying to remember the letters,
1:09:01
because it was actually three letters.
1:09:03
And did you say I had sex with Barack Obama?
1:09:07
This is the interesting part. My first contact with the campaign
1:09:12
never mentioned the sex whatsoever. That was actually
1:09:18
brought to my attention by someone who eventually reached
1:09:22
out to me in late 2007. Claiming to be with the campaign but
1:09:26
wasn't with the campaign. What do you mean that was pointed out
1:09:29
to you never told anyone in the Obama campaign you did sex with
1:09:33
burnout in 2007? No, interesting.
1:09:36
John C Dvorak: But the news
1:09:37
Adam Curry: nursing Interesting.
1:09:40
John C Dvorak: Okay. This is not credible. No, I agree. He says
1:09:45
he called got a hold of the campaign but Axelrod to tell
1:09:48
them well, you know, Obama's not being completely honest. And you
1:09:52
know, he's he's telling the kids he smoked dope, but he shouldn't
1:09:55
be telling him they smoked crack. And you know, of course
1:09:59
admitting to school rhymes basically, himself. And this
1:10:04
doesn't make any sense. Nobody would do this. If you're a
1:10:08
crackhead or a cocaine user. You're not calling people up to
1:10:13
correct the record on some guy was a politician. It's bullcrap.
1:10:19
Adam Curry: And I love how Tucker just Oh, okay.
1:10:22
John C Dvorak: Oh, Tucker's all into that. But again, this whole
1:10:27
thing seems scripted. There's missing questions that could
1:10:33
have been asked. And I'm not a fan of what, what went down
1:10:38
here.
1:10:38
Adam Curry: He didn't talk or ask about his criminal record at
1:10:40
all.
1:10:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he Well, he brought that up. And it he
1:10:44
brought up the fact that it was exaggerated in some ways. And
1:10:48
that video was immaterial. The whole thing was, was a very
1:10:54
dubious interview, go to the next clip.
1:10:56
Unknown: And the opinion was, if you're going to tell the story,
1:11:00
then you tell the whole story and let the chips fall where
1:11:02
they may. So that's exactly what I did. And she made a YouTube
1:11:06
video, by the way, I look, I look for it last night couldn't
1:11:08
find it. That's because YouTube gave access to my account to
1:11:12
someone shortly after the polygraph test, and I was never
1:11:19
given access back to it before the video was actually deleted.
1:11:24
Are you serious? Oh, yeah, YouTube gave access to the
1:11:28
account and the video was deleted. Microsoft gave access
1:11:32
to my Hotmail account and all of my emails were circulating the
1:11:37
internet and vacation replies were set up on my email telling
1:11:42
people that I was busy giving blowjobs and will get back with
1:11:47
them. When I was done. And, man, they wanted Obama to be
1:11:51
president. Yep. And they wanted me to be the biggest fraud and
1:11:57
nutcase that ever existed. Okay.
1:12:04
John C Dvorak: I just played this clip to let everyone know
1:12:08
that these big tech companies
1:12:11
Adam Curry: they're no good.
1:12:13
John C Dvorak: No, they had my mail store was funny. The other
1:12:16
one is like he made a video you had to upload it. That means you
1:12:20
have a video. Where's that video? Okay, the upload was
1:12:25
taken down, but you still must have the video. It's not you
1:12:28
didn't record it on YouTube. There's no way of doing that. So
1:12:32
that's that another dubious aspect to the story. I'm against
1:12:37
skeptical, because Oh, yeah, they might they took it down.
1:12:42
And now it's gone forever. Well, how does that work? How does
1:12:45
that work? Can somebody explain to me how that works? Doesn't?
1:12:49
Do they go? Did they reach into your house and grab it off your
1:12:53
camcorder? Or wherever you put it?
1:12:55
Adam Curry: He's a crackhead. He doesn't he didn't keep the keep
1:12:58
copies? He was
1:12:59
John C Dvorak: he snorter, he never smoked corringham At least
1:13:03
that makes it listen these clips, it makes a big
1:13:06
difference. So here we are. This is the last clip. So
1:13:10
Unknown: I gotta ask you. I mean, you know, I wasn't there.
1:13:14
I can only assess what you're saying. I don't see any obvious
1:13:18
motive for you for gain financial gain. You're not going
1:13:20
to get rich doing this. And in fact, you haven't you've gotten
1:13:23
impoverished as a result of it. But like if I'm a reporter, I
1:13:27
was a reporter at the time. I remember thinking, Well, that's
1:13:29
an interesting story. But it seemed like nobody in the media
1:13:34
wanted to follow up with you. And some people like Ben Smith
1:13:37
at politico who's a liar and a shill posing as a journalist. I
1:13:40
reread the piece last night that he wrote saying, Oh, it's
1:13:43
ridiculous right off the first graph. It's ridiculous these
1:13:45
claims, but I think I have an answer for why a lot of
1:13:49
reporters did not want to follow up. And I think it would have
1:13:53
something to do with what David Axelrod told a old Chicago Sun
1:13:58
Times. Reporter or no. Chicago Tribune reporter, John Crewdson.
1:14:06
Axelrod had been a reporter in Chicago into politics while John
1:14:09
Crewdson worked for the Chicago trivia, and John Kreutz and
1:14:14
actually came to Duluth, Minnesota and sat down with me
1:14:17
and talked with me, and John Kreutz, and had told me point
1:14:21
blank that before he had flown out that he had spoken to
1:14:25
Axelrod and that Axelrod had told him that they were aware of
1:14:28
who I was, and then it was their intentions to destroy me. And
1:14:33
that if any reporter had mentioned me to them, they would
1:14:37
be completely cut off, and that outlet would be completely cut
1:14:40
off from access to the Obama campaign for the duration of the
1:14:44
year. So I think that had a lot to do with why reporters didn't
1:14:49
bring things up to the campaign, because everybody wanted access
1:14:53
to you know, the new savior. Nobody wanted to be blackballed,
1:14:58
and denied access. to a historic campaign.
1:15:02
Adam Curry: Okay, that's that's kind of Tucker's whole thing
1:15:05
that I believe
1:15:06
John C Dvorak: that robbed. Part of the story is probably mostly
1:15:08
true. And I agree with a store campaign thing, because that's
1:15:12
what the left was just all everybody was so jacked up about
1:15:17
Obama, because he's a black guy, kind of, he was going to be the
1:15:21
first black president. And this is the greatest thing that's
1:15:23
ever happened to this country. I
1:15:24
Adam Curry: interject something there. What he got his attention
1:15:28
when he spoke at the DNC a year before? No, is four years before
1:15:34
he was before I'm sorry, four years before. And that was the
1:15:38
first year that they had bloggers come in. And they were
1:15:42
scheduling all the bloggers to have a chat with this with the
1:15:46
future of the party. And I know this because Dave Weiner was
1:15:49
there. And he said it was electric. It was Dave Weiner,
1:15:54
John C Dvorak: who invented this is Oh, head over heels for
1:15:57
Obama. It was unbelievable. He had a podcast for a while. And
1:16:00
it's all he talked about. Yeah, but 2004 I saw that speech in
1:16:05
real time. And watched it as he did get delivered it. And I said
1:16:10
this guy this guy is this is the guy. Yeah. Oh, it was obvious
1:16:14
that they were gonna.
1:16:14
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's my point. That's my point is it was
1:16:17
all a setup. And they brought brought he was going to be the
1:16:20
internet president, if you remember. But I remember that.
1:16:24
Yeah. It's going to be the internet present. Oh, yes. And
1:16:27
people. Oh, we might even have. Yeah. And all we got was a
1:16:31
Twitter account that he didn't that he didn't handle. And we
1:16:34
got the what was that? Where you could have your say.gov or
1:16:39
whatever. And if there were over here,
1:16:41
John C Dvorak: remember the promises that yeah, we're not
1:16:43
going to pass any bills until they're online?
1:16:48
Adam Curry: You could take that you can take that to the bank.
1:16:50
You got a baby? Yeah. Take that to the bank. Oh, yeah. At least
1:16:54
seven days. Internet president. Yeah. What was that? What was
1:17:00
that thing? It was like a feedback doc, or something? And
1:17:05
if there was, if there were 50,000 people who signed up,
1:17:08
then they would do something about it. Yeah. It was a great.
1:17:13
Alright, so So Okay, your your takeaway from this, and I'll
1:17:17
give you mine.
1:17:18
John C Dvorak: I'm still thinking that this is a message
1:17:20
a messaging. They also mentioned Axelrod a couple of times, for
1:17:23
some reason. So I suppose he's somewhat involved. This is a
1:17:26
message from headquarters, to stop doing what you're doing
1:17:32
Obama, and let Biden do his own thing. Because we've got to move
1:17:36
up, we've got to move him, we're not going to keep him in there
1:17:39
any longer. And he's going to have to like, sink or swim. We
1:17:43
don't, he doesn't need you in the background, doing whatever
1:17:45
you're doing. That's my thinking. And that's the end.
1:17:49
This is like, this is message number two, guy, there's more to
1:17:53
come if you want to keep this up.
1:17:57
Adam Curry: That's very, that's a very credible line of
1:17:59
thinking, I will just give you the alternative thinking, which
1:18:03
doesn't mean I disagree with what you're saying. But I think
1:18:06
even back in the 10th, or the 11th. We were probably talking
1:18:11
about Obama in some modicum of disrespect, probably saying, one
1:18:17
of these days, we're just going to come out and he's going to be
1:18:19
the first gay president for real and he'll say it. And that was
1:18:23
accentuated two weeks before before her death by Joan Rivers
1:18:27
when queried by the Howard Stern shows, I think it was stuttering
1:18:30
John outside of her apartment in New York, where she had just
1:18:34
officiated the first gay wedding in the state of New York.
1:18:38
Unknown: Do you think that the country will see the first the
1:18:40
United States to see the first gay president or the first woman
1:18:42
president Obama?
1:18:44
So let's just come down.
1:18:48
Now the show is a trend. I'm sorry, she's a what?
1:18:53
John C Dvorak: Transgender? We call Oh my gosh.
1:18:59
Adam Curry: Mind you, in hindsight, the word transgender
1:19:03
was not a word at the time. It was not a word but was a word.
1:19:07
It wasn't it was a it wasn't a thing. It wasn't word it wasn't
1:19:11
a thing. The only other well, there's there's three, three
1:19:16
possibilities. So I think yours is very, very possible. Or is
1:19:21
just That's right. It's not who we are. I'm a homosexual. And
1:19:25
Michelle is transgender and she'd run Big Mike 2024. Yeah.
1:19:32
John C Dvorak: You holding on to the dream, dude.
1:19:35
Adam Curry: They locked us down and forced shots on us anything
1:19:38
is possible in this world. Anything. The only other thing
1:19:42
is that Tucker is just desperate to do dumb SEC stuff reporting.
1:19:48
I mean, who else cares? Why do we care distraction, distraction
1:19:53
of the year this of the year. He doesn't need to interview Blair
1:19:58
Sinclair, who was supposedly Did I hit and run? I've said this
1:20:03
myself many times on the show I was convinced he was dead then
1:20:06
he shows up all of a sudden some dude with no teeth
1:20:11
Unknown: I don't know
1:20:13
John C Dvorak: it could be an actor we don't know anything be
1:20:15
Adam Curry: a mask for all we know a toothless mask. I'm I
1:20:20
swear. I think I've even said it's too bad Larry Sinclair's
1:20:24
dead because he can't come on say anything anymore. It's
1:20:28
really crazy. The world's gone crazy. It's gone crazy. So
1:20:33
John C Dvorak: let's talk about Biden. Yeah, yeah, let's do
1:20:36
that. Yeah. And I have two clips just about the COVID. Yeah. And
1:20:41
I clip one and this one. This one bothers me. It's another one
1:20:46
of these things. I am obviously bothered by the littlest of
1:20:49
things when it comes to these these people what people say.
1:20:54
And this one is like, I've never heard this before in my life,
1:20:59
when you get to be old. And you start hearing things as what are
1:21:04
they saying this? This is the clip one that uses the word
1:21:08
introduces the word for some unknown reason. Instead of using
1:21:13
the word schedule, they use the word cadence. And three
1:21:18
different people use it.
1:21:21
Unknown: And a while sounds like he's gonna continue to get
1:21:23
tested on a regular cadence, though without specifying what
1:21:27
that cadence what mean, and today the White House press
1:21:30
secretary was also pressed on what seems to be some coughing
1:21:33
by the President on Monday.
1:21:34
Watch, just wondering if he had any other symptoms or if there's
1:21:37
any concern about power on that?
1:21:39
No, no symptoms at all. On a regular cadence. regular cadence
1:21:44
is up to really in consultation with this physician, I can tell
1:21:47
you right now as I said, all travelers are certainly going to
1:21:49
test right before they head out to India that's including the
1:21:54
president.
1:21:57
Adam Curry: Cadence This is
1:21:58
John C Dvorak: so why are they using this word? Forget to look
1:22:07
it up and read the definition to see why it's distinct. What? And
1:22:12
it's never been used before in this in this I've never
1:22:14
Adam Curry: I've never heard it. Let's go to the Cambridge
1:22:18
dictionary. Just to make sure we get something. Cadence is
1:22:21
usually the hardest. I'm bubba. Cadence. I'm sorry. This is
1:22:25
regular rise and fall of the voice. Let me look at Merriam
1:22:30
Webster, they always change things. Okay, the beat time or
1:22:33
measure of rhythmical motion or activity. So I guess they would
1:22:37
say the cadence is his regular testing, perhaps rhythmic slug
1:22:41
less regular testing. Regular and rich see this the third
1:22:45
definition, regular and repeated pattern of activity. Then
1:22:50
actually a falling inflection of voice is way down the list.
1:22:54
They've changed the meaning of a word yet again. They I don't
1:23:01
know this is this is a good question. Not great, but it's a
1:23:04
good question.
1:23:05
John C Dvorak: Great. It's good. You hear it? And it's like
1:23:10
you're, it's it's unusual that you? I mean, that's what we do
1:23:14
on the show. We pick this stuff up because it's got to have some
1:23:18
hidden meaning, or there's something going on or why are
1:23:21
you using this word, lady? Yeah.
1:23:26
Adam Curry: Okay, what else? Do you have that bothered you?
1:23:28
John C Dvorak: I know I got the other clip, which is the
1:23:30
normalized clip. Yeah, the Biden clip.
1:23:34
Adam Curry: The Summit. Yeah, here we go.
1:23:35
Unknown: The White House today would not tell us if there's any
1:23:38
contingency plans made in case Biden tested positive for COVID.
1:23:43
But it did depend on the possibility that Biden might
1:23:45
have to attend the G 20. Summit. Virtually we've seen various
1:23:50
leaders various times participate virtually in events.
1:23:52
Biden said on Monday that he's disappointed that China's
1:23:55
shooting ping will not attend the G 20. Summit the way now
1:23:59
it's really unclear if Biden will become the third world
1:24:02
leader to have to be at least physically absent at the summit
1:24:05
after both Russia's Vladimir Putin as well as China shooting
1:24:09
ping and pulled out from the summit.
1:24:11
Adam Curry: Okay, so the conclusion I think as you dinged
1:24:13
your bell is that Jill pretends to have COVID So the Biden might
1:24:18
have something can't go to the summit because it's so
1:24:20
embarrassing that Zhi Jing ping is not going to show up.
1:24:25
John C Dvorak: And neither is Putin. Now the thing, there's a
1:24:27
couple of things. He's already skipped the egg, which isn't
1:24:30
really been reported much, but there was a big AZ an S E. Meet
1:24:36
up in Indonesia, a meetup. It was a big drinking meetup in
1:24:43
Indonesia, and he skipped out on that. And it was like very
1:24:46
controversial amongst international circles, because
1:24:51
he skipped out on that, and then he's gonna skip out on this. It
1:24:54
looks like now there's two reasons to skip out one well,
1:24:58
well, it says Jesus I couldn't be more important. Like it'd be
1:25:01
maybe they're gonna blow up the place and kill everyone like in
1:25:04
the old gangster movie where the one gangster sets everyone up
1:25:07
and kills the group. That's possible. And so he doesn't want
1:25:11
to be there because he doesn't want to get killed. Or he's
1:25:15
already so damned in it in feeble that he can barely hold
1:25:19
luck around and
1:25:20
Adam Curry: my Obama theory is crazy, but you're talking about
1:25:23
them blowing up the world leaders. Okay, all right.
1:25:30
John C Dvorak: Terrorists, how
1:25:32
Adam Curry: about this. So, Karina, Abdullah, jump here,
1:25:36
Jabbar whatever. Nice little little skit she performed with a
1:25:42
shill a shill, journalist in the White House press group. As we
1:25:48
all saw, that Joe Biden took off his mask. Oh, he took off his
1:25:54
mask. Don't call it a comeback. COVID. On the way back, we've
1:25:57
got to start programming people's minds. He took off his
1:26:01
mask. And she's going to explain why he took off the mask. And
1:26:06
and this is why I think it was a setup question. It
1:26:09
simultaneously explains why he like a demented old feeble man
1:26:15
walked out of the ceremony.
1:26:17
John C Dvorak: Everybody talking about the Situ This is the image
1:26:20
he gives the guy just the background or I don't you this
1:26:23
is something you have to actually see. And we couldn't
1:26:25
really explain. He's giving the Medal of Honor. And this is in
1:26:30
the newsletter to some guy who's at one, it seems to have a lot
1:26:34
more going on in buying it at. And he wraps them thing around
1:26:39
his neck. You know? Barely, Yes, yep, barely. And then he looks
1:26:45
around and staggers off the stage and walks out of there.
1:26:48
Well, then the old and the 4081 year old guy, the captain army
1:26:53
captain. He's looking around left and right. And he's got a
1:26:56
kind of an earth look on his face. And what happened?
1:26:59
Adam Curry: And this is why I love this little theatrical
1:27:02
performance that KGP does with this. I don't know who it is.
1:27:06
Because instead of saying, Hey, why did he walk off like a
1:27:09
demented old man. It's like, hey, we saw you took his mask
1:27:14
off, listen to how this spins into a beautiful explanation.
1:27:17
Unknown: CDC guidelines for people who are exposed to COVID
1:27:19
say that you should wear high quality masks, anytime you're
1:27:22
around others inside your home or indoors in public. The
1:27:24
president of course, did wear that mask in the Medal of Honor
1:27:26
ceremony, but then took it off and didn't put it back on was
1:27:30
that mistake.
1:27:31
So look, I'm gonna be I'm gonna share a couple of things with
1:27:34
all of you here. And just start with what the ceremony was all
1:27:38
about. Because it's incredibly important. The President took
1:27:42
off his mask, as I said he would to deliver incredibly powerful
1:27:47
remarks about this Captain Captain Taylor, and what he did
1:27:51
in service to our nation. And we wanted to honor the captain. And
1:27:55
for a brief time afterwards, he also didn't have his mask on as
1:27:59
you just laid out. And he left as planned as it was planned. He
1:28:05
left when there was a pause in the program in order to minimize
1:28:09
to minimize his close contact with attendees who were who are
1:28:13
about to participate in a reception. And I you all
1:28:16
reported that notice that he left when there was a pause in
1:28:20
the program, because again, he wanted to minimize certainly his
1:28:24
impact on folks who were there.
1:28:26
Adam Curry: Beautiful. Well done. No, they
1:28:30
John C Dvorak: did a follow up to that as well. He's already
1:28:32
tested negative for COVID. So what's he worried about? No,
1:28:35
Adam Curry: there's no follow up. This is all theater. This is
1:28:38
dumb. This is just I don't know, I need to do some COVID here
1:28:42
because they're ramping up and we need to be aware of what's
1:28:45
happening. We just need to show it to everybody because before
1:28:48
you know we're gonna be like, Oh, God, you Oh.
1:28:52
Unknown: It was COVID that forced Metallica to postpone
1:28:54
tonight's concert in Glendale, Arizona.
1:28:57
Adam Curry: Oh COVID cancels Metallica. The heavy metal Gods
1:29:03
Unknown: singer James Hetfield reportedly struggled with his
1:29:05
voice in Friday's performance. The band later posting a photo
1:29:08
of his positive COVID test concert has been rescheduled for
1:29:12
next Saturday.
1:29:13
Overnight. First Lady Jill Biden testing positive for COVID A
1:29:17
year after she last battled the virus. The White House says the
1:29:21
72 year old is experiencing mild symptoms and will remain at the
1:29:25
Biden's home in Delaware.
1:29:27
As you can see what me is not here she has COVID is back. It's
1:29:34
back but she's on the mend. She's on the tail end and she
1:29:36
probably back this week.
1:29:38
Adam Curry: So yeah, she'll be back. Whoopi has got it to
1:29:41
Hatfields got it and
1:29:43
Unknown: the President was with the First Lady yesterday he will
1:29:46
be masking while indoors and around people in alignment with
1:29:50
CDC guidance. And as as has been the practice in the past, the
1:29:55
President will remove his mask when sufficiently distanced from
1:29:58
others indoors and one out outside as well.
1:30:01
Adam Curry: Okay, so you heard James Hetfield posted a picture
1:30:04
of his COVID test. Don't worry, we've rescheduled for a week
1:30:07
from now because I guess you know, this new crazy variant.
1:30:12
You'll be ready in a week or you know, it's okay to reschedule
1:30:16
seems kind of sketchy to me but the test is the main point of
1:30:20
the message. James with
1:30:22
Unknown: cases on the rise, some retailers are running out of
1:30:24
tests. Walgreens tell CBS News, we are seeing greater demand
1:30:29
which may cause temporary and isolated shortages.
1:30:32
Adam Curry: If you want to create demand. The first thing
1:30:34
you got to say is we're running out oh no, you better go get
1:30:37
some tests. And don't worry if you can't find any doctors are
1:30:41
Unknown: also warning don't throw out expired add home
1:30:44
testing kits, because the FDA has extended when certain brands
1:30:48
expire. The agency has posted a list of new expiration dates on
1:30:52
its website. Don't worry,
1:30:54
Adam Curry: they're so good. They're so good. They can even
1:30:56
handle the new variant which we don't have a vaccine for because
1:30:59
the old vaccine is just not good enough. But we have a test test
1:31:02
works and everything the test is great.
1:31:11
Unknown: You may have noticed cases of COVID are ticking up
1:31:14
again. The news is learned that new vaccine booster shots could
1:31:18
be available next week after CDC approval even as many have put
1:31:23
COVID in the rearview mirror. Here's Tom Costello.
1:31:30
The American seniors are in Ireland to soak in Irish music.
1:31:34
They got the music, but six out of 20 also got COVID News ISIS
1:31:38
are popping up around the world and across the US including
1:31:42
First Lady Dr. Joe Biden. President Biden criticized for
1:31:46
removing his mask while awarding the Medal of Honor to an 81 year
1:31:50
old veteran after 150,000 hospitalizations in January that
1:31:55
dropped to 6300 in June. The CDC reports hospitalizations are
1:32:00
rising again, more than 17,000 As of August 26th far below
1:32:05
pandemic levels but a reminder say experts COVID may be here to
1:32:10
stay the sickest.
1:32:11
COVID Patients are certainly older, Emil compromised. They
1:32:14
have primary pulmonary disease like emphysema and the
1:32:17
unvaccinated but the country remains
1:32:20
Adam Curry: and the unvaccinated it sounds to me like a lot of
1:32:24
people who were vaccinated who may be older. That you know
1:32:28
remember you promised that after it was 95% effective 75% or 40%.
1:32:33
It was not effective. It doesn't help you. It doesn't stop you
1:32:36
from getting it or spreading it but you won't go to the hospital
1:32:39
and you won't die. And now it doesn't seem to be doing that
1:32:41
either. vited
1:32:42
Unknown: over masks and vaccines. The FDA is now
1:32:45
expected to approve updated COVID Booster data as soon as
1:32:48
Friday available as soon as midweek. Madrona and Pfizer say
1:32:52
their new vaccines new effective against the new ba 280 6x has
1:32:58
appeared in Michigan, New York, Ohio and Virginia everywhere.
1:33:01
Meanwhile, health agencies report an uptick in the RSV
1:33:05
virus. Children especially now in Florida and Georgia. The FDA
1:33:10
recently approved a new RSV vaccine for small children and
1:33:14
expectant mothers.
1:33:16
And Tom back to COVID. For a moment what are health experts
1:33:18
telling people about testing?
1:33:21
You know, those test kits that many people have in their home
1:33:24
state should pick up the newest COVID variants. And even if that
1:33:28
test has expired, may still be viable. The FDA has been
1:33:32
extending the expiration dates, you can check whether yours is
1:33:36
still valid on the FTAs website last year. All right.
1:33:39
Thank you, please. Alright, so
1:33:40
Adam Curry: we know the formula the formula is start creating a
1:33:44
little bit of a little bit of angst. Tell people to test the
1:33:48
testing is the big thing was always test test. So you gotta
1:33:50
test don't worry if you've got an old test, just test I'm sure
1:33:53
it just test you got to test, go get the new test the boosters
1:33:56
coming, get the test and then we have to psychologically scare
1:34:03
everybody. pummel, pummel, yes by a visual cue the visual cue
1:34:09
to remind you which is it this is right out of the MK Ultra
1:34:12
playbook. We need to show you the mask keep flashing the mask
1:34:17
as long as you keep seeing the mask, you're going to think
1:34:19
COVID You're going to think I'm scared. Whether you believe in
1:34:22
it or not you even you you're going to be thinking about even
1:34:25
if you if you like us think it's all bull crap. Oh, there's
1:34:29
another mask and it's elicits a response even for people who are
1:34:34
not into it like ah, you stupid masker. It creates division and
1:34:41
they're out to make it happen. CNN leading leading leading
1:34:46
this. This is the Smerconish interview. I'll set it up here
1:34:50
with his intro. There's an uptick in COVID cases notice the
1:34:53
language uptake. We saw this two weeks ago uptick uptick uptick
1:34:58
here, we've got to talk about uptick. It's On a surge it's an
1:35:00
uptick and a
1:35:01
Unknown: new variant called ba 286. Some three and a half years
1:35:05
since the pandemic was first identified, but if public health
1:35:08
officials feel it necessary to ask America to mask up again,
1:35:13
how many would comply? The Drudge Report? Let its website
1:35:17
this morning with the headlines not again mask up in New York.
1:35:21
lead story at CBS News This Morning. COVID hospitalizations
1:35:25
on the rise as US enters Labor Day weekend. The past several
1:35:29
weeks I've seen reports from all over the country have a rise in
1:35:32
cases and yes, the CDC reports COVID-19. hospital admissions
1:35:36
are up more than 19% in the most recent week,
1:35:39
Adam Curry: which means what to what? unimportant. It's 19%.
1:35:43
That sounds like a fifth, but it could be five people. This is
1:35:48
the psychological warfare being espoused expounded on the
1:35:55
American people
1:35:56
Unknown: and a few school districts. This is even led to
1:35:58
canceled classes and sporting events. A handful of companies
1:36:01
and schools have responded to outbreaks on their premises by
1:36:04
reinstating mask mandates among them several hospital systems
1:36:08
including including Kaiser Permanente in Northern
1:36:11
California College in Atlanta Dillard University in DeMonte I
1:36:16
think he went to Siena Lions Gate film studio in Santa
1:36:20
Monica. But so far so far, those have been the few exceptions.
1:36:25
And this graph shows how the current rise rationalizations
1:36:28
compares to past searches. We've got a graph less than half the
1:36:32
numbers this time last year and still lower than they've been
1:36:35
for about 80% of the pandemic. But if things get worse, it may
1:36:40
be hard to get people to revert to an abundance of caution.
1:36:43
According to Gallup in the first two years, public confidence in
1:36:46
the US healthcare system has dropped from 44% to 34%. And
1:36:51
Donald Trump took to truth social to again make the issue
1:36:54
political, accusing the latest outbreak to be hype designed to
1:36:58
impact the 2024 election.
1:37:00
Adam Curry: So it's all in there. Everything you need is in
1:37:02
there, but we're rolling it out. This is Walter Reed Bethesda
1:37:06
Hospital, which is a military run hospital. Every single
1:37:10
person in this in this commercial is wearing a mask.
1:37:15
You'll hear it they're wearing a mask and they're all in uniform.
1:37:18
Unknown: I wear a mask.
1:37:19
I wear a mask. I wear a mask.
1:37:22
I wear a mask.
1:37:24
I wear a mask. I wear a mask. I wear a mask
1:37:29
for the patients, families and staff of Walter Reed Bethesda
1:37:33
for my loved ones and friends
1:37:35
don't be exposed cover your mouth
1:37:37
and nose. Whether we like it or not. The world is forever
1:37:41
changed by COVID-19
1:37:43
Small actions make a big difference. community wide use
1:37:48
of a face mask effectively lessens the spread of
1:37:51
Coronavirus wearing a mask is our new normal and we must
1:37:57
all starts with you.
1:37:59
So wear a mask.
1:38:00
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1:38:02
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1:38:09
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1:38:13
John C Dvorak: wisdom your V
1:38:15
Adam Curry: w RB Walter Reed Bethesda Oh
1:38:19
John C Dvorak: it says a WR boy with the mask on you can barely
1:38:22
Adam Curry: but this is this is psychological This is meant hey
1:38:25
these are people of authority to have them out they have uniforms
1:38:28
on these people are they're doing it for us they're doing it
1:38:32
for their family members this is important stuff yes
1:38:36
John C Dvorak: well the military's been is with Boyd
1:38:40
Austin running everything they know
1:38:42
Adam Curry: we are saying but I'm telling you that most people
1:38:46
they their big event this year was the Barbie movie. Okay, so
1:38:50
these people are not okay let me not like you and me. They're out
1:38:56
there and they're just oh crap it's oh it's it's here to stay.
1:39:01
John C Dvorak: Barbie movie Oh mascot
1:39:03
Adam Curry: for the Barbie movie so if you want if you want to
1:39:06
complete the circle, you've got to bring in the expert
1:39:10
unmasking.
1:39:11
John C Dvorak: Did I talk about the video? I think I posted it I
1:39:15
know agenda social with a guy and he's got one of the sniffers
1:39:19
one of these devices you use in mining and elsewhere.
1:39:23
undetermined I didn't bad air I didn't see it. In fact you can
1:39:27
buy these after I saw this I'm gonna get one of these because I
1:39:31
always like to have these little devices and I'm gonna get one
1:39:35
they have on Amazon for about 40 bucks and it is like an
1:39:39
emergency you stick it in like an area you're gonna go to if he
1:39:43
if the air is not breathable as dangerous good honks the horn
1:39:47
basically at you and says hey, no go in there is terrible. So
1:39:50
he takes him puts a mask on and sticks the little probe under
1:39:54
the mask. Gives the alarm off. No, no it is bad air and It is
1:40:00
bad air, you're breathing your own effluent you're breathing
1:40:04
out and breathing it back in and out. And then this can't be
1:40:06
Elfi.
1:40:09
Adam Curry: So I'm trying to think maybe I should play the
1:40:11
Fauci super clip about masks first, and then we'll go to his
1:40:15
interview on CNN with Smerconish. This is a perfect
1:40:21
super clip, which gives you all the messaging we received from
1:40:25
Anthony Fauci over the three year COVID. Period. And before
1:40:29
John C Dvorak: you play that, because you're gonna play this
1:40:31
merch ish thing. Yeah. I thought Fauci was retired. Now, what's
1:40:36
he doing on CNN,
1:40:37
Adam Curry: he's the messenger of death,
1:40:39
Unknown: people should not be walking around with masks, let
1:40:42
me just state for the record that masks are not theater,
1:40:45
wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better, and
1:40:49
masks are protected. And we're not providing the perfect
1:40:52
protection that people think that it is, there has not been
1:40:56
any indication that putting a mask on and wearing a mask for a
1:41:00
considerable period of time has any deleterious effects. There
1:41:04
are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the
1:41:06
mask and they keep touching their face, then can you get
1:41:09
some sweats and sort of staying inside their horse, you do not
1:41:13
need to wear a mask indoors, if in fact, you've been vaccinated,
1:41:17
we're glad that you're vaccinated. But in a situation
1:41:20
where you have people indoors, particularly crowded, you should
1:41:22
wear a mask. So even if you are vaccinated, you should wear a
1:41:26
mask if in fact, you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated,
1:41:30
you are protected. And you do not need to wear a mask outdoors
1:41:33
or indoors. When the children go out into the community. You want
1:41:37
them to continue to wear masks, you know, if you look at
1:41:39
children outside, particularly when they with the family of
1:41:43
walking down the street playing a game or what have you don't
1:41:46
have to wear a mask. The pediatric the Academy of
1:41:50
Pediatric actually makes that recommendation that children
1:41:53
should be wearing masks from two years old onward. And you're
1:41:57
asking now if your child is a member of your household, can
1:42:00
you walk out those with your child without a mask? According
1:42:04
to that shot? The answer is yes.
1:42:06
But the child can't not to be to beat it to death. Yes, yes. Now
1:42:11
the CDC says I mean, I think I've got this right. One mask is
1:42:14
better than zero masks. Two masks is better than one mask,
1:42:18
but you don't have to have double masks. Is that right? I
1:42:21
mean,
1:42:22
it became clear that cloth coverings that you didn't have
1:42:25
to buy in a store that you could make yourself were adequate and
1:42:29
that he wanted to fit. So one of the ways you could do it, if you
1:42:33
would like to is put a cloth mask over which actually here
1:42:38
and here and here where you can get leakage in is much better
1:42:42
contain.
1:42:43
Are you a double masker Dr. Fauci.
1:42:47
Adam Curry: So that's just a little little bit to show you of
1:42:51
the lies. confusing message
1:42:54
John C Dvorak: is just one it's
1:42:55
Adam Curry: just contradicts contradiction, believable
1:42:58
contradiction. Thank you clip collector for doing that, Steve.
1:43:01
But
1:43:01
John C Dvorak: I want to mention something here, which I forgot
1:43:04
about until I heard that clip. Do you remember that moment,
1:43:07
there was this thing? And he made a point of it? Oh, and the
1:43:10
problem with a massive fiddle with the touch their faces is
1:43:13
tight. If you touch your face, yep, you're gonna die. You're
1:43:16
gonna die. Because I guess you touch your face in the low COVID
1:43:20
thing walks across your skin, or something. I don't know what
1:43:23
that was all about. But I remember Trump making some
1:43:26
comment about it saying Well, I kind of missed that. You know,
1:43:29
he's joking about touching your face that's touch your face
1:43:33
thing was like, okay, so that that was weird. So
1:43:35
Adam Curry: the, the, the complex, it's just one big
1:43:40
complex. Everybody's in on this now. It's for the elections.
1:43:44
It's for the it's for the pharmaceutical companies. It's
1:43:46
for power. It's for the Democrat party, you know, so they can
1:43:51
identify their members. It's for control. The message is Hey,
1:43:56
hey, you know, we we don't recommend any, any any like
1:44:01
mandates. You don't have to take your your booster shot. You
1:44:06
don't have to wear masks, but you know, the private sector
1:44:09
might might do that. By the way. Fauci was not the one who
1:44:14
recommended the lockdowns. First
1:44:15
Unknown: of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down
1:44:18
and the record will show Neal that we didn't recommend
1:44:21
shutting everything down. I recommended to the President
1:44:25
that we shut the country down.
1:44:27
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry, contradiction after
1:44:29
contradiction. These people are liars. And now we have to start
1:44:33
it all off with Michael Smerconish and Anthony Fauci.
1:44:37
Unknown: Joining me now to discuss is Dr. Anthony Fauci.
1:44:39
He, of course, is the former director of the National
1:44:41
Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Dr. Fauci
1:44:44
Nice to have you back. How worried are you that people will
1:44:48
not follow advice to wear masks, if big if if we get to that?
1:44:53
Well, Michael,
1:44:53
that's a very good question. If we get to that, I mean, we're
1:44:57
starting to see a
1:44:57
Adam Curry: surge of cases you want to have a look It gets a
1:45:00
survey. It's a
1:45:01
Unknown: survey about an 18 or 19% increase in
1:45:04
hospitalizations. Oh, certainly going up commonality
1:45:07
John C Dvorak: with 19%. Yeah.
1:45:09
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. All right, yeah. scripted. Oh, it's totally
1:45:11
scripted. This is all a script in a
1:45:14
Unknown: 19% increase in hospitalizations. Certainly
1:45:17
going in the wrong direction with looks like a late summer
1:45:21
and into the fall surge. How bad it's gonna get we don't know, as
1:45:25
you know, this is a very unpredictable virus has shown us
1:45:28
that, oh, it's
1:45:29
Adam Curry: a very unpredictable virus. Boy, I thought we had it
1:45:32
under control
1:45:34
Unknown: over the last three and a half years. I am concerned
1:45:37
that people will not abide by recommendations. We're not
1:45:41
talking about mandates or forcing anybody but oh, we have
1:45:44
a situation No, no, no, where the volume of cases in society
1:45:49
gets to a reasonably high level, particularly the vulnerable,
1:45:52
those who are elderly, and those with underlying conditions are
1:45:56
going to be more susceptible and vulnerable. If they do get
1:45:59
infected. To get severe disease leading to hospitalization. We
1:46:03
know that
1:46:04
Adam Curry: they're what what happened to your your vaccine
1:46:06
that said, you don't have to go to the house. That's
1:46:08
Unknown: a fact. So if we've seen that, so I would hope that
1:46:12
if in fact, we get to the point where the volume of cases is
1:46:15
such an organizations like the CDC recommend, CDC doesn't
1:46:21
mandate anything. I mean, recognize that's recommended
1:46:24
people wear masks, I would hope that they abide by the
1:46:27
recommendation of taking to account to themselves and to
1:46:31
their families. And again, we're not talking there's forcing
1:46:34
anybody to do anything.
1:46:36
Adam Curry: It's important that we it's tedious. I know. But
1:46:39
it's important because he is giving us the script so we can
1:46:42
look out for it. And be aware every it's going to so you're
1:46:46
going to hurt your family. This is killing grandma. It's just a
1:46:50
recommendation you should abide by it
1:46:52
Unknown: totally understood. There is a perception out there
1:46:55
by many how many I don't know Republicans that they don't
1:46:58
work, and that the data concludes that they didn't work
1:47:02
in the first go round respond to that on masks.
1:47:05
Yeah. Well, that's not so I mean, when you're talking about
1:47:08
at the population level,
1:47:10
Adam Curry: that listen, this is this is tricky. He says that's
1:47:13
not true. When you're talking at the population level,
1:47:17
Unknown: that the data are less strong than knowing that if you
1:47:20
look on a situation as an individual, protecting
1:47:24
themselves or protecting them from spreading it, there's no
1:47:27
doubt that masks work. Different studies give different
1:47:31
percentages of advantage of wearing it. But there's no doubt
1:47:34
that the weight of the studies and there have been many studies
1:47:37
indicate the benefit of wearing masks.
1:47:41
Adam Curry: He just said nothing. He just said there's
1:47:44
studies that say yes and no on a population level, no but
1:47:48
individual level, you know, your own personal choice. Yes,
1:47:51
Unknown: I'm going to refer to one of them. You've heard about
1:47:53
it before I heard about it from a number of radio callers. Bret
1:47:57
Stevens in the Times talked about Cochrane put that on the
1:48:00
screen. The Cochrane report. The most rigorous and comprehensive
1:48:03
analysis of scientific studies conducted on the efficacy of
1:48:06
masks for reducing the spread of respiratory illness, including
1:48:10
COVID-19, was published last month. Its conclusions, said Tom
1:48:14
Jefferson, the Oxford epidemiologist who is the lead
1:48:17
author were unambiguous. There is just no evidence that they
1:48:21
masks make any difference. He told the journalist my en
1:48:24
DiMasi, full stop. But wait, hold on, what about the n 95?
1:48:28
Masks, as opposed to the lower quality surgical or cloth masks?
1:48:32
Makes no difference? None of it? He said, Well, what about the
1:48:35
studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mask
1:48:39
mandates? They were convinced by non randomized studies, flawed
1:48:43
observational studies, how do we get beyond that finding of that
1:48:47
particular review?
1:48:52
Adam Curry: Do you think it can do it? Do you think he can
1:48:54
convince us that this report the biggest report, the report that
1:48:57
was this definitive report definitive Gold Standard Top of
1:49:02
the line can Fauci refute it?
1:49:04
Unknown: Yeah, but there are other studies, Michael, that
1:49:06
show a level for individual when you're talking about the effect
1:49:11
on the epidemic of the pandemic as a whole. That was a whole
1:49:15
data or less strong, talk about as an individual basis of
1:49:19
someone protecting themselves, protecting themselves. You see,
1:49:23
it's
1:49:23
Adam Curry: about you protecting yourself and protecting your
1:49:26
family as a whole. They don't work but for you, personally,
1:49:29
you you human resource, they will work,
1:49:33
Unknown: spreading it to others. There's no doubt that there are
1:49:35
many studies that show that there is an advantage when you
1:49:38
took a broad population level like the Cochrane study, the
1:49:42
data are less firm with regard to the effect on the overall
1:49:46
pandemic. But we're not talking about that we're talking about
1:49:50
an individual's effect on their own safety. That's a bit
1:49:54
different than the broad population.
1:49:57
Adam Curry: Bullshit. Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, he's good. Let's
1:50:00
wrap it up,
1:50:00
Unknown: given the public sentiment that I shared at the
1:50:02
outset, people saying there's no way I'd mask up again, a final
1:50:05
thought from Dr. Fauci. If it comes to it, we hope it doesn't.
1:50:09
But if it comes to it might a better approach say, Let's
1:50:12
protect the most vulnerable and allow others to lead their
1:50:16
normal lives. Final word is yours. Well, yeah, I
1:50:19
mean, mandating I don't think is gonna happen. They may be local
1:50:22
mandates. I keep thinking that the federal government is going
1:50:25
to mandate that you wear a mask?
1:50:27
Adam Curry: No, no, no, it's not going to be the federal
1:50:30
government to be local, it'd be your local, probably be some
1:50:33
businesses, but it's just not going to be local.
1:50:36
Unknown: That's not going to happen. But there may be
1:50:37
individual institutions, or organizations that are going to
1:50:41
say, if you want to come to work, you've got to wear a mask.
1:50:44
There's nothing that the federal government can do about that. If
1:50:47
people want to do it locally, I think people need to realize it
1:50:50
is extremely unlikely that you're going to see a mandate,
1:50:54
for example, from the CDC, which has no authority to mandate
1:50:58
anything with regard to mass, they can only recommend it. So
1:51:01
people essentially, for the most part can do what they want to
1:51:05
do, based on their own evaluation of their own risks.
1:51:08
Adam Curry: Now, completely untrue. Insurance companies will
1:51:11
not allow businesses to continue without mask mandates for their
1:51:16
businesses. Airlines are going to mandate it for travel, bus
1:51:22
companies, it's going to be everything is there. It's just
1:51:26
going to happen again, is the nature of it. And I love that
1:51:29
people say well, oh, no, no, I don't people are gonna fight it.
1:51:32
Yeah, they will. But then it's the same trick. You can't work,
1:51:37
you can't travel. It and this is setup. It's a setup. And I
1:51:43
honestly don't know what to do about it. I don't see a way out
1:51:48
complain and complain. I mean, Scott Adams had kind of the best
1:51:53
idea. He's like, the first airline that mandates it,
1:51:57
everyone has to boycott it, which also won't happen.
1:52:01
John C Dvorak: No, it won't happen. It's idealistic.
1:52:04
Adam Curry: So we need to come up with something like Invasion
1:52:06
of the Body Snatchers or something when you see someone
1:52:09
with with a mask or something we've got to come up with,
1:52:15
John C Dvorak: is that gonna happen you do anything you do is
1:52:17
did you can the black market come on set which is to find
1:52:22
somebody to produce those blue surgical masks that are so
1:52:26
porous that you really can breathe? No, no. put the mask on
1:52:31
and suffer.
1:52:32
Adam Curry: Howard Stern is already blocked locking down in
1:52:35
his studio again, the man has barely been out for three years.
1:52:40
He's going back into his into his basement COVID COVID He's
1:52:48
deathly afraid of COVID Even his wife is pissed at him now.
1:52:53
Unknown: According to him,
1:52:54
John C Dvorak: this level of, of freakish paranoia. I mean,
1:53:01
there's plenty of the I would be more concerned with getting that
1:53:04
in the newer forms of tuberculosis that are immune to
1:53:11
all the treatments than that and COVID I mean, everybody in the
1:53:16
family here has had COVID and no one has suffered it JC had it
1:53:23
when it first showed up when it was really deadly. And
1:53:26
everybody's had it sent me the problem
1:53:29
Adam Curry: the problem and the sad thing I'm hearing around
1:53:33
here and you know from family around the country is people who
1:53:38
were boosted not just one shot but had boosters they're
1:53:42
catching COVID and they're getting pretty sick
1:53:45
John C Dvorak: yeah yeah they ruin their
1:53:48
Adam Curry: ruin their immune system and this is this is this
1:53:52
is pretty important
1:53:53
John C Dvorak: It seems to me you're gonna I mean if you ruin
1:53:56
your immune system you're get you're susceptible to just about
1:53:59
anything that comes along
1:54:00
Unknown: anything yeah yeah
1:54:07
Adam Curry: I don't know we I'd love to I wish I had a ready
1:54:11
answer. There's nothing we can do except just not comply and be
1:54:15
be kind about it. I'm sorry. You
1:54:18
John C Dvorak: can't I do when I see people all over the place
1:54:21
wearing masks. I give them a look askance
1:54:29
Adam Curry: I think I think I'm just gonna say I'm sorry your
1:54:32
mind controlled
1:54:34
John C Dvorak: now suddenly you see what that journey did no
1:54:36
one's gonna know what you're talking about a
1:54:40
Adam Curry: maybe just go up and lick him on the cheek.
1:54:43
John C Dvorak: Spit in their face mask go stop this.
1:54:48
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
1:54:49
courage in the morning to you the man who put the seat in the
1:54:51
medicinal crack ladies gentlemen say hello to my friend on the on
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the on the one Melanie Mr. John Cena
1:55:00
John C Dvorak: Well in the morning illustrating Korean
1:55:02
leadership seamlessly rough in the air so to the water all the
1:55:04
names of knights out there in the morning
1:55:10
Adam Curry: Hello trolls in the troll room 19 91,990 Is that up
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Adam Curry: we just dropped by 200 Because they all ran away.
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Crazy trolls are so afraid when the minute you ask them some new
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Oh, and when you're not when you don't ask them to hold true and
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did you hear? Did you read this article in the Wall Street
1:55:54
Journal about Spotify?
1:55:58
John C Dvorak: I did not.
1:55:59
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness. So the Wall Street Journal wrote
1:56:04
this article. Let me see. I think there was an MSN version.
1:56:07
Of course I'm hitting a paywall. Right now, the title of Spotify
1:56:11
is $1 billion podcast bet turns into a serial drama.
1:56:16
John C Dvorak: If he I saw the title I'd ever read the article.
1:56:20
But what more do you need than that title? Well,
1:56:22
Adam Curry: there's there's some interesting little tidbits in
1:56:25
here. The main one being let me see I have it here on MSN. I
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think the main one being that they were paying for some
1:56:35
podcasts and was not specified which ones some of them they
1:56:40
were paying $250,000 In episode. Wow. And that's not even for
1:56:49
like a like a big name person who was hosting it. Now it's
1:56:54
like
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John C Dvorak: then I mean, Kenny judgment was going on over
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there.
1:57:00
Adam Curry: I don't know. Well, they you know, they laid off the
1:57:03
entire podcast division. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: for good reason. If they're gonna throw money
1:57:06
away. Yeah.
1:57:08
Adam Curry: So you know, the they have it's an advertiser
1:57:12
problem adverts, you cannot monetize the network. How many
1:57:15
times I have to tell you this. I am now do podcast one. Podcast,
1:57:21
one is was supposed to go public this week. They're part of their
1:57:24
spin off of live one. And they didn't even go public. And the
1:57:31
main reason being that, you know, they acquired this, like
1:57:35
this caste company, which had stopped paying its podcasters
1:57:38
advertising money they were owed. And now people out there
1:57:43
like to Vaughn are doing video saying, hey, these guys, they
1:57:46
didn't want to pay me they offered me stock. People This is
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not the way to go. The all you need a modern podcast app that
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has value for value written all over it, you can hit our PayPal
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account all of this stuff to just support the podcast that
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you like. It's that simple. If everybody supported us with a
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couple of bucks a month, you'd we wouldn't have an app that
1:58:11
have a donation segment. It will be so beautiful. Instead, we
1:58:15
have to ask and ask and ask and I don't mind asking because we
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give you the value upfront you can download it. You can
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download this podcast anywhere you want. No charge. There's no
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99 cents not behind a paywall. There's no premium content
1:58:31
you're not getting the you have to pay for the premium is right
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here up front. We give you the premium stuff right here.
1:58:38
John C Dvorak: The whole thing is premium. We are one
1:58:40
Adam Curry: yeah, we're all we're all premium all the time.
1:58:44
And all we ask is you return some value time, talent or
1:58:47
treasure we love our artists who Blackseed so let me just remind
1:58:52
you that get a new podcast that podcast apps.com where you can
1:58:57
see all of this artwork but we always have one that we that we
1:59:01
attribute to the podcast is the album art. And we we put it in
1:59:05
the mp3 we put it everywhere that we use it for for the
1:59:08
socials for the social media. And we have I think hundreds
1:59:12
hundreds of artists who participate in this listening to
1:59:16
the live show, and they just try to come up with the best thing
1:59:19
that represents the actual episode itself. And then we
1:59:23
choose one and we and we reward them handsomely with credits and
1:59:27
with love and and everyone else we we we criticize and let them
1:59:31
know this funny difference. Just some funny ones already I can
1:59:36
see for today's show. So we want to thank the artist who brought
1:59:40
us the artwork for episode 1587. We titled that one calmly,
1:59:46
calmly, calmly, calmly, calmly, calmly, calmly and the artwork
1:59:51
was capitalists agenda. And it was kind of for my birthday. It
1:59:57
was the an old Walkman what Which I found kind of hard to
2:00:01
see but I relented eventually. To DeVore X. harassment. I'm
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like, okay, okay, I see it a TED podcast father, which is kind of
2:00:11
a joke, and had little streamers and it was really the best one.
2:00:14
I think there was nothing else that we that we thought was was
2:00:18
like, playing like a flame thrower. I like scared. I'm like
2:00:23
that it was cute. Was there anything else that that was? Oh,
2:00:28
John C Dvorak: yeah, we wanted to make comments to Gus not scar
2:00:32
as Gus not you can stop doing these types of pieces, which I
2:00:37
call Surfer Magazine art. Which is a very advanced style of art,
2:00:44
which is kind of a combination in his case between a Surfer
2:00:49
Magazine art and a kidnapping letter. That's exactly what it
2:00:55
is. With cut out letters. We picked it already one time to
2:01:01
style Yeah, and it's the same thing over and over it's just
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different things are moved around try something different.
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Yeah.
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Adam Curry: And there really wasn't much to pick from
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John C Dvorak: now that just no it was the holiday. Oh, that's
2:01:15
Adam Curry: right. It was the holiday and also I think the
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Nevermind the bollocks album cover has been done. Darren
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O'Neill that's been done so many times we've picked it probably
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more than once. And like the top left one there Nevermind the
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bloody M five M here's no agenda. It's the Sex Pistols
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Nevermind the bollocks album cover.
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John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, I don't like it
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Adam Curry: that's been done several times. So it was the
2:01:42
holiday short was is the one that I did
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John C Dvorak: right so the one next to Nick near it which is by
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Sir shung with the kids you gotta fight for your right to
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for pleasure, which
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Adam Curry: was creepy.
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John C Dvorak: It was slightly creepy don't
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Adam Curry: want that is creepy, but it was a
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John C Dvorak: nice piece. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: yeah. So yeah, it was the holiday and I can
2:02:03
already tell that the artists are back it'll be some fun stuff
2:02:06
to look at after the show. We really appreciate all that you
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do. It's a great form of returning value. Many people
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returned value to the show. We've got our our nitro does our
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meet ups. We've got people do clips boots on the ground. I
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mean, there's so much that people you are the producers.
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That's why we have no we have how many listeners that your
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show have zero. How many listeners we have producers,
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time, talent and treasure and we'd like to thank those who
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have delivered some treasure to us today. We kick it off with an
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executive producer. We do have a few today. We're happy about
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that. Why you laugh while you're rapping?
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John C Dvorak: I'm looking at two pieces coming in and the guy
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holding the giant fish fish is quite funny.
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Adam Curry: Funny. Tyler Austin is from Putney Vermont 343 dot
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33. He says the extra 10 is to cover processing costs. Wow.
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It's not that much but we appreciate it. MLK is three
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evils are not racism, poverty and bigotry, but racism, poverty
2:02:59
and militarism. I escaped Vermont to reside in Warren
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Pennsylvania Chris Patton who hit me in the mouth last
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December is a douchebag All right. Work. Great work. He
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wants it well. Thank you Tyler. We appreciate that.
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John C Dvorak: Kieran Cassidy K i e r o n in in the Netherlands
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and Dimir and I don't know how to pronounce cure and
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Adam Curry: homeless okay. Why is it Kieran? Yeah, that's not a
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Dutch name. The Mirror mirror in the mirror in
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Unknown: the mirror.
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Adam Curry: When is near Utrecht? Oh, I didn't know it
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was near
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John C Dvorak: him anyway, he gave three three 3.34 John and
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Adam finally made it night who had pleased night me sir Kieran,
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the collector of blunt drill bits. Seeing you as a
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misgendered and seeing as you misgendered me in the past Oh
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Adam Curry: no.
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John C Dvorak: I would like to clarify was male at birth and
2:04:01
I'm still male. Oh, that's good. So looking forward to a couple
2:04:04
of jugs of meat at the roundtable. Thanks for all the
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enjoyment karma for all take it easy. Kieran Mimiron Kieran
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Dimir
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Adam Curry: you've got karma. All right. Mo This is good. We
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will see you at the round table. Looking forward to that. Then we
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have druzy druzy Baltimore, Maryland. Three Three 3.34
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Comrades. Hey comrade, here's some treasure and with this
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donation I become a knight please Knight me as sir druzy
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thank you for all you do keep up the good work jiggles which is I
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had never should have mentioned that it's jingles but okay. And
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everyone's gonna do jiggles now. Anything by Reverend Al Sharpton
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roundtable requests beef bulgogi bulgogi. What is beef bulgogi
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Bill Gogi.
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John C Dvorak: That's Korean dish that's the Korean Korean
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barbecue. Delicious
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Adam Curry: and Captain Jack's buried treasure cake. Sounds
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delicious druzy from Baltimore, Maryland. We'll see you at the
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roundtable in a moment.
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John C Dvorak: ESP IICT? Sure, Mike, Big Mike. in Clinton
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Township, Michigan 333. Dots three three. John and Adam. It's
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been a wild year. Axe axe head watch shop at axe head watch dot
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Adam Curry: the wooden the wooden wooden guy. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: Gorgeous watches. But due to supply is still
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chugging, but due to supply chain issues and an Amazon
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broker deal gone bad boy, our inventory is out of whack. But
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promo code, ITM still works for the 25% off.
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Adam Curry: So you can't deliver but you'll take our money, I
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don't understand. I hope everything's
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John C Dvorak: good business is great. In my role of liberator
2:06:02
of MIT 10 I find myself subject of a lawsuit in federal court as
2:06:08
part of my fight against a plot to take over the Libertarian
2:06:11
Party and destroy it from within. And he's got some link
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here. It's a very long link. I can't read updates to come.
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Lastly, I'd like to announce my latest project. This is by the
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way, very interesting. I want I want a copy of this. Yeah, me
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too. Coram car Rama papalii Kurama opoli The best board game
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in the universe I've adapted the show into the format of the
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world's best selling board game. In other words, he's taking
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monopoly and he's it's adapted it to no agenda.
2:06:40
Adam Curry: He misspelled it the first time it's karma Karma
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opoli Karma opoli Not Cara car. Karma humbly it's a crappy name
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but okay, we get the idea. Karma
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John C Dvorak: opoli Okay, well, the first spelling is wrong.
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You're right. Yeah. I couldn't afford to print them in advance.
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So I went to crowdfunding and the best board game in the
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universe. With that update. I should not be a Baronet.
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Hopefully I get back on track two Grand Duke please give jobs
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karma and please play resist we much for the lawsuit karma. Sir
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Mike of axehead watch makers. Okay.
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Adam Curry: Does he have a link to his his crowdfunding karma
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on?
2:07:22
John C Dvorak: There's no he's got these. His link is to this
2:07:24
lawsuit. Okay, so it was a mistake, but
2:07:28
Unknown: resist we much. We must. And we will much about
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that. Be committed
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jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs. Harmon
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Adam Curry: and Tripp Scott Gribbs Scott already found it on
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Indiegogo karma. opoli So I'll put that in the show notes here
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real quick. But happy to do that for him. What does he need?
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Here's Indiegogo. He has. Oh, he only needs $20,000 Oh, that
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should be easy. It looks good though. The Karma opoli game.
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He's got 170,000 so far. 20,006 goal. I don't know if you'll
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ever see it, John. It's kind of tough when you have a fixed goal
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like that. Like the idea though? Search we'll have the six
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strings is in Franklin, Tennessee. 333 Our favorite
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number I was walking through Epcot. Oh, sir schmo search
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Whoa, he's from Mercy Me. I was walking through Epcot dodging
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gender confused teenagers while listening to Episode 1587 As I
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passed a beverage stand in Mexico, and decided I needed
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some refreshment. Lo and behold my order number was 333 I mean,
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the Lord moves in mysterious ways. Who am I not to donate?
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Not sure how but you guys keep getting better. All the best,
2:08:52
sir Shmoo of the six strings. Thank you very much brother. I'm
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gonna give him the karma for that. You've got karma
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John C Dvorak: nonnamous in Santa Fe New Mexico through
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23456 Dear John and Adam I'm still around and I still listen
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to the show. Anonymous okay. Not sure who you are. Yeah, he's
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sending some of India's show mixes that I finally finished
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them all figured that out then. N J and K Tidewater ARCHITEC
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Adam Curry: that is his end of show name. And he did two under
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Show mixes for today.
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John C Dvorak: Is he the one that has the sampler? Yes, he's
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Adam Curry: the one with the sampler. Exactly. Thank you Jim
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Roy craft is in Brussels, Ontario Canada Navia 201. That's
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probably dollar we do so we counted as as USD. Please accept
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my deducible donation of 201.
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Adam Curry: Thank you Adam for playing fool me on booster grand
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ball twice. I did not see that coming. Oh, this is Steve. I
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know this is I will try to keep this short but please I could
2:10:02
use some help a once I understand once I understood the
2:10:05
media is scamming the general public I began to wonder if the
2:10:08
general public could scam the media I think so a use the foot
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in the the A's in there. So I have a plan for most of this
2:10:15
year capitalist agenda and I've been putting together a music
2:10:17
video now it's done. So here's the plan. We create fake news
2:10:21
stories about a racist country song and deep fake video of the
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ladies from the view talking about our racist countries. This
2:10:28
is a music promotion. Then we pay the left leaning social
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media influencers to post the content about our racist country
2:10:35
song and see if we can stir up some crap. The problem is I have
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no idea how to create this content. I've even tried Fiverr
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seriously, writing this email is a challenge but I know that
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someone is listening to no agenda does know how fake news
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stories deep fake video, or is this a job for the curry Devorah
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Consulting Group. I'll share my treasure if you can help please,
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free canada@yahoo.com That's free canada@yahoo.com And if you
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want to hear our racist country song, look for a woman of the
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year on Jimmy V TV on the YouTubes Woman of the Year on
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Jimmy V TV. First you will find this is not a country song and
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it's not racist. It's much worse. Thank you for your
2:11:12
courage. Thank you, Jim.
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John C Dvorak: Much worse, much worse. Yes. Okay, onward with
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Adam Curry: morasca. So I'd say morasca
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John C Dvorak: is in Blairsville, Georgia. Thank you,
2:11:32
from big ahead in the Georgia mountains. And thanks to sea dub
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in sunny Ellensburg for turning me on to the show. That's always
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notice this beautiful little note
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Adam Curry: it is indeed we don't have many birthday
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greetings for me. I'd expected some this I'd be 59 was just not
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a remarkable year people like nice 59 Whatever. Fine 66 Next
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John C Dvorak: year big, big big bucks btw,
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Adam Curry: do you know that show 1600 And our 16th
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anniversary fall within a week of each other?
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John C Dvorak: Sounds good.
2:12:10
Adam Curry: I'll do a little brief mention of Sir nobody in
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Parlin New Jersey because I know that this is from the pig roast
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meet up this is a color coat. Colette calmative what does that
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think it meant collective quality of donation 158 from
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this collective coaster sells sells, and then his sales from
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the 3d printer from the south Jersey pig roast. Unfortunately,
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there was only a limited amount of two colorings due to the
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printer developing a ball of filament on the head. The ball
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was so large in fact, normal melting procedures didn't work.
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I lost the entire printer because the sensor didn't detect
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this error in time. Oh well. Lessons learned to the meetup.
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That meetup report is coming along with more and we do have
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two nice things after John reads the rest of these donations
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through the 50s Yeah, let's
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John C Dvorak: do the rest of them. Here's Bruce Schwalm
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starts us off in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 133 88. Matthew
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did tonto 133 33 in San Diego I think we already put him on last
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shows list cost Dragon Slayer, St. George, somewhere us I'm not
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sure where that is. $92 Kevin McLaughlin areas Yuri is already
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Gerald kinswoman 6126. Up Kevin McLaughlin shows up again with a
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small tip dressed on it donation boob Concord North Carolina 606
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greater Limburg. There you go. That's interesting. Sir Tom dari
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in Coventry, UK 5033 Jeff Kenyon in Kalon tarrif, Queensland,
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Australia $50.30 of the birthday call to his son, Jake. And now
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we got 50 is already very shortlist once again after the
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holiday has not helped us. Then malinovski in Stafford,
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Virginia, Jason Hutchinson in Garden City, Idaho. Miko Lebar,
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in Austin, Texas, Jonathan Ferris and liberal Kansas, Ryan
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Calderon in Somerset, Massachusetts. He has a really
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Flint, Michigan, Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee, Jonathan
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were just whipping through everything today. Only two
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birthdays on the list. Jeff Kenyon wishes his son Jake
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Kenyon, aka sir it Bowgun a happy birthday. He turns 30
2:19:48
years old tomorrow and our very own clip custodian turns 45.
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Tomorrow, everyone in the toy room say happy birthday to Neal
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Jones. Happy birthday. Everybody had the best podcast in the
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John C Dvorak: classic here. Here you go. Oh, I
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Adam Curry: love that one. Yeah, that's the beauty. That's the
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beauty. Karen Cassidy and druzy hub I'm on stage here both of
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you are qualified and ready to be knighted. I'm very proud to
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pronounce the k d as Sir Kieran collector of blonde drill bits
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Webster County whet your whistle meet up
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Unknown: in the morning. This is Charles Sheldon at the Webster
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County Wednesday. whet your whistle meet up at Community tap
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and pizza in Fort Dodge Iowa. We have a few to count them to
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including myself. So three total small amount of people but
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they're going to choose to remain anonymous for producer to
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producer reasons. But we would love to have more people here
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and we are going to have a another one of these Wednesday
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whet your whistle meetups next month. Coming up here in
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October, October is the next month so next month, October you
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County meet up here at Community tap pizza in Fort Dodge and in
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the morning and thank you for your courage and
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Adam Curry: thank you for your courage. A lot of meetup only
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had a few people in this particular meetup report like
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the Santa Fe meetups or Jeff tau Hague to Hig tau Hague. He says
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that it was just him and Dame Heather of the lost boys they
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did hang out for three hours talked about our president all
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the scariness of elder abuse. We also chatted about you in the
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keepers podcast the DJ scene in Santa Fe and his headphone dance
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party charity event in Albuquerque the next one will be
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in Albuquerque and we hope to get more people there till then
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cheers from the land or the Mars Rover yes that's where the Mars
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rover is. And then we had the New Jersey pig roast Labor Day
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Unknown: weekend no agenda meet up report a Dane wins pig roast
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it's off the scale
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is a win up to what Lake Welcome to the pig Rose 2023 I'm not
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don't think I can continue. Have fun.
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John what's going on? ADAM You gotta come up. Come on back to
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Jersey. I say it every damn time but bring yo ass full
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Happy Birthday and we got your birthday cake. But you're not
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here to enjoy it. In the morning John and Adam you're missing out
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on some good pig down here in Bedford New Jersey.
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In The Morning John and Adam slaves. Hello from from the pig
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your coasters are here and the pig roast is tasty. Hey John
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anatomy you're missing the big picture of pig roast. This is
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Paul from South Jersey. Once you're here,
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I gotta say when throws a nice big roast over here. Dane went
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great job. And that
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Adam Curry: was at her house and sounds like a super fun time.
2:24:05
And we got the report in from Mexico City Mexico in
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Unknown: the Morning John and Adam just giving you an update
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of the second no gender meetup we did in Mexico City.
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Unfortunately, nobody showed up this time and last time was a
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bit of a bummer too. But we'll keep fighting nevertheless.
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Thank you for your courage and greetings from Mexico City from
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future Dame shulkie Thank you future
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Adam Curry: Damon Thank you for keeping on it because eventually
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someone will show up and that's how the party begins Mexico City
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thank you so much couple of meetups to promote coming up
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we're going on through Wednesday, September 13. The
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Springfield, Missouri. And on the next show day on next
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Dyson day you'll be me
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Unknown: say this like
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Adam Curry: I think we're both swinging for the fences with the
2:27:02
ISOs. Today you have one two, the four ISOs
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John C Dvorak: therefore you have to go first though, it's
2:27:08
your turn.
2:27:08
Adam Curry: No, you made me go first the last time. No, no, you
2:27:11
John C Dvorak: got it wrong.
2:27:12
Adam Curry: Okay, here's my first okay.
2:27:14
John C Dvorak: Do you remember last time I had nothing? Oh,
2:27:16
that's right. I said bye.
2:27:18
Adam Curry: And that was the one we chose. All right. Here's my
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first
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Unknown: God. Print that one. Mm,
2:27:26
Adam Curry: no. Okay. Next one. Oh, this
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Unknown: is disappointing. Yeah.
2:27:31
Adam Curry: This one? Well, that's just
2:27:33
Unknown: fine. That's perfect.
2:27:34
Adam Curry: Okay, okay. Okay. Okay, just completely wrong.
2:27:39
Come on. Oh, my God, who cares about Twitter followers. We want
2:27:42
money, and then the only one that really is worth anything. I
2:27:45
think this is what
2:27:46
John C Dvorak: happens when you hire two guys with a podcast.
2:27:49
Couldn't hear it? This is
2:27:50
Adam Curry: what happens when it was a little low. I'm gonna see
2:27:52
if I can check that out for a second. But I thought this one
2:27:54
actually might that you might like this one when we say here
2:27:57
we go. This is what happens when you hire two guys with a
2:27:59
podcast.
2:28:01
Unknown: Now, I guess not. Yes. Cute. Cute. Okay, what do you
2:28:04
John C Dvorak: go and see what I got. All right. Let's start with
2:28:07
ISO sick,
2:28:08
Adam Curry: sick. Sort of leaves you physically sick. I like
2:28:12
that. Okay, what else?
2:28:15
Unknown: Bang. Bang. Dang owl.
2:28:20
John C Dvorak: I Chai brought that back from the cloud. Yeah,
2:28:22
that's very old. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I cannot believe it.
2:28:26
Adam Curry: I cannot believe it. That's Fran Drescher. Yeah. And,
2:28:32
and the next one.
2:28:34
John C Dvorak: And the last one, which I think is a great ending
2:28:37
for any podcast. cool and amazing. This is really cool.
2:28:41
It's really amazing. It's gotta
2:28:43
Adam Curry: be between that. And I gotta say, I kind of like I
2:28:48
cannot believe not that one. I like the one. This one sort of
2:28:52
leaves you physically sick. Kind of like I like that one. No, I
2:28:57
like sick better than then.
2:28:58
Unknown: This is really, really amazing.
2:29:00
John C Dvorak: Huh? Like physically sick,
2:29:04
Adam Curry: like sick. Hey, can I do some Africa stuff?
2:29:08
John C Dvorak: Can we can we take a little humor break first?
2:29:12
Adam Curry: Okay, short then let's not have too much fun.
2:29:14
John C Dvorak: I have a new segment for the show. Oh,
2:29:17
Adam Curry: do we need jingles?
2:29:21
John C Dvorak: And the question is, is this AI or not A?
2:29:26
Adam Curry: Okay. Is this AI or not AI? Something like that.
2:29:33
Maybe a little
2:29:36
John C Dvorak: bit a lot better than that. All right. This
2:29:37
Adam Curry: is kind of in the thank you in the drunk or not
2:29:40
drunk genre AI or not AI? Do I play this clip? Yeah,
2:29:46
Unknown: I want you to know that I did not eat that pork chop on
2:29:49
a stick because it is politically necessary. I ate
2:29:52
that pork chop on a stick because it was delicious.
2:29:56
Adam Curry: Wow. It's not even close to Hillary Clinton. That's
2:30:00
horrible this is this is this segment. I can call it every
2:30:04
single time. You still cannot fool me with AI voices. This is
2:30:09
not this is AI
2:30:11
Unknown: wrong bull crap.
2:30:15
John C Dvorak: This is It's I have three more clips. This is
2:30:18
Hillary reading from her book. What happened who's
2:30:25
Adam Curry: who says that? She didn't have aI read her book
2:30:28
John C Dvorak: we didn't have this was too long ago. This is
2:30:30
way this is this book came out after she lost the election in
2:30:33
2000 whenever it
2:30:34
Adam Curry: was okay, so now we have to listen to her stupid
2:30:36
book. No, I only have three clips and they're all good. But
2:30:39
that was the humor of humor segment is funny. Okay,
2:30:43
John C Dvorak: here's what I come to realize. She didn't
2:30:46
write this book.
2:30:47
Adam Curry: Oh, all right. Which one do we play? First?
2:30:50
John C Dvorak: Let's start with naps. Woke.
2:30:52
Unknown: I love naps. But I stay woke.
2:30:58
Man,
2:30:59
John C Dvorak: she's reading somebody else's copy. That's why
2:31:02
she sounds so
2:31:02
Adam Curry: funny. Sounds so lame. Right? Okay, next, and
2:31:06
then
2:31:06
Unknown: we have crackers. I have a weakness for Pepperidge
2:31:09
Farm goldfish crackers, and was delighted to find out that 55
2:31:14
Goldfish were only 150 calories. Not bad.
2:31:19
Adam Curry: Something sounds different. Let me play that AI
2:31:21
clip again.
2:31:22
Unknown: I want you to know that I did not eat that pork chop on
2:31:25
a stick because it is politically necessary. I ate
2:31:28
that pork chop on a stick because it was delicious.
2:31:31
Adam Curry: Wow. Okay, you got me on that one?
2:31:36
John C Dvorak: I did. And you because you, especially after
2:31:39
your assertion, which I thought was great. Yeah. And here's the
2:31:41
last one. This is sure you
2:31:43
Unknown: did. Yeah, it was great. Great.
2:31:46
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can spot these days no matter what. So
2:31:50
here's her reading a poem. This is called the this is Tyler kiss
2:31:55
ass. But it's a it's actually a poem that she put in her book.
2:31:59
And she reads it and again with the same kind of stilted voice.
2:32:04
Unknown: The election is now over. The result is now known.
2:32:08
The will of the people has clearly been shown. Let's all
2:32:11
get together. Let bitterness pass. I'll hug your elephant and
2:32:16
you kiss my ass.
2:32:19
Adam Curry: Wow. As in the donkey?
2:32:24
Unknown: Yeah. Oh, my so
2:32:26
Adam Curry: was that her reaching across the aisle?
2:32:30
John C Dvorak: This way? Yeah. This was her reading. If you got
2:32:34
a book out, you go books on tape, you'll find her this,
2:32:36
which is what happened. Wow. And now after listening to this,
2:32:40
these were actually in our own archives and never played
2:32:43
before. They when the book came out, which was a couple of
2:32:47
months after the wish for maybe six months after the election
2:32:50
with book what happened where she blames everybody but
2:32:52
herself. I'm totally committed. Just like Obama never wrote
2:32:58
tales from my father. These people don't write their own
2:33:00
books. And they don't use they don't have an ad with or
2:33:04
anything like that. They just pay a ghostwriter, which is you
2:33:07
have to pay extra for that. Because they are getting no
2:33:10
credit whatsoever. And some of them blow the whistle on I don't
2:33:13
know who wrote this book, but wasn't hurt. Because no, when
2:33:16
you're reading your own copy, you don't sound like this. No. I
2:33:24
closed the segment. Yes.
2:33:25
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, I don't know if I liked that segment.
2:33:29
John C Dvorak: No, of course not. Because you blew it.
2:33:32
Adam Curry: Yes, that's right. I don't like the segment. All
2:33:35
right. They figured out Africa.
2:33:38
John C Dvorak: I'd like to know
2:33:39
Adam Curry: after this. We won't have to do any more Africa
2:33:41
clips. I figured it out. Yes. Yes. Yes, I figured it out. So
2:33:49
outside of the EU, which I'll get to in a moment outside of
2:33:52
the EU countries. You know, the ones that that are a problem.
2:33:59
There was a huge Climate Summit, which was under reported in the
2:34:05
United States, but everybody was there not if you watch democracy
2:34:09
now. No. Okay. Well, I watched the Africa today I watched
2:34:14
Turkish radio television. I watch France 24. Thank you, clip
2:34:18
collector, Dave Ackerman. And I figured out what's going on what
2:34:23
that what this is all about why Africa is important. And
2:34:27
surprise, surprise, the climate scam comes into view. It's not
2:34:31
that it's desperately new. But Africa has some unique
2:34:35
properties that make the scam very attractive.
2:34:39
Unknown: Africa is emerging as a solution. The continent has the
2:34:42
potential to generate massive amounts of clean energy, solar,
2:34:47
wind, hydro electric, everything is possible in Africa. And some
2:34:51
African countries have been harnessing these green sources.
2:34:54
The Summit host to Kenya is at the forefront of renewable
2:34:57
energy generation and present Enter William Ruto is
2:35:01
championing green growth, he has a plan, let Africa bypass the
2:35:05
fossil fuel based growth of the West. Instead, the continent
2:35:09
should move directly to clean energy, develop that capacity,
2:35:13
and then sell it to the rest of the world, not just energy. But
2:35:17
carbon credits. carbon credits are almost a transfer of
2:35:21
responsibility. A polluting country can continue polluting,
2:35:25
if it buys carbon credits, it can pay green countries for
2:35:28
their share of pollution capacity. This way, greenhouse
2:35:32
gases don't really get reduced, they just don't increase. It's
2:35:36
better than nothing but not ideal. However, the system has
2:35:40
the potential to enrich green control, which is what Ruto
2:35:44
wants to do. And there are backers for this. Yesterday, the
2:35:48
UAE pledged to buy four $50 million worth of carbon credits.
2:35:53
Other nations like the UK and Germany are planning debt swaps
2:35:56
and green projects. Here's what the EU said,
2:36:00
we're not only interested in extracting resources, we want to
2:36:04
partner with you to create local value chains to create good jobs
2:36:10
here in Africa. We want to share European technology with you. We
2:36:16
want to invest in skills for local workers. This is crucial
2:36:21
for the young people.
2:36:22
Basically, they're trying to make Africa the green hub of the
2:36:25
world while they continue their polluting ways.
2:36:29
Adam Curry: So I dive into this. And everyone's at this
2:36:32
conference, Earth Queen, Ursula, watermelon head carry everyone's
2:36:36
there.
2:36:36
John C Dvorak: Can Can I share a comment on that clip? Yeah,
2:36:39
sure. The guy in the clip says it's better than nothing. No, it
2:36:43
is nothing. It's not better than nothing. It is nothing. If you
2:36:49
just nothing changes. How's this helping? Climate change?
2:36:53
Adam Curry: That's my point. It's a huge scam.
2:36:56
John C Dvorak: It's a huge Yes, but
2:36:58
Adam Curry: right where I'm going where I'm gonna lay this
2:37:00
out. So the way the way they figure this, there's so Africa,
2:37:04
we need to capture every part of Africa. And we need to put solar
2:37:09
panels down, although they keep showing windmills. But I don't
2:37:12
think that's right. I think it's all solar panels, because they
2:37:14
got a lot of sun, they got a lot of empty space, we can put solar
2:37:17
panels. So they make Africa only work during the day. Because at
2:37:21
night, this is, you know, energy. And then they create
2:37:25
carbon credits for that, and then they sell them to the west.
2:37:30
And that's really the crux, that's why Kerry's there and
2:37:33
we'll get there in a moment. In addition, and this is something
2:37:36
that goes back to, I think I had I don't have a clip clip or a
2:37:40
story that the elites the financial elites really want to
2:37:45
commoditize nature. And they figured it out. And in this
2:37:49
clip, this next one from Africa today, they actually have this
2:37:54
outfit called wildlife. What is it I think it's called new
2:38:00
wildlife or something, some outfit like that these guys got
2:38:03
jackets on. They're measuring trees, like oh, he's got a
2:38:09
measuring tape. He's measuring the trunk and you know, seeing
2:38:11
how tall it is, because somehow through some magical formula,
2:38:15
they can then calculate how much of a carbon sink this tree is.
2:38:22
So just by commoditizing, ie owning or having some claim to
2:38:28
these pieces of land with trees in Africa, you can create carbon
2:38:33
credits deep within
2:38:34
Unknown: Cassie go a sweeping wilderness of craggy hills and
2:38:38
Savanna roamed by elephants in The Woodlands located in
2:38:41
southern Kenya. A team armed with clipboards and measuring
2:38:45
tips is busy studying an unremarkable tree now to
2:38:49
listless it nonetheless has great value. It stores cabin
2:38:53
King and President William Ruto is hosting a climate summit in
2:38:57
Nairobi this week, believes Africa's carbon sinks,
2:39:00
unparalleled and should be tapped into
2:39:03
the restoration and expansion of Africa's natural carbon things
2:39:07
are just not just an environmental imperative. In
2:39:12
fact, they unparalleled economic goldmine. They have the
2:39:19
potential to absorb millions of tons of co2 annually, which
2:39:26
translates into billions of dollars. If we were living in a
2:39:30
fair
2:39:30
what happened, markets are largely unregulated and
2:39:33
accusations that some offsets, particularly forest based ones
2:39:37
do lead to for the environment or exploit communities have sent
2:39:41
prices crashing this year.
2:39:42
What is really important is to take these ecosystems for what
2:39:46
they really account for us and to pay the fair price for the
2:39:50
carbon sequestration. So I think a claim from the continent which
2:39:53
is to see a better price for carbon is a very fair one, and
2:39:57
something that the world should really support And Institute.
2:40:01
Adam Curry: So this was the whole conference was about. So
2:40:05
just because you are in Africa, it's a gold mine, that tree over
2:40:09
there gold mine, we just turned into a credit. The problem is,
2:40:13
we don't have a price on carbon yet. And even worse, this is
2:40:20
from their own documentation. The I'll read this sentence, if
2:40:25
you take two carbon credits, one generated out of Iceland or
2:40:28
Norway or any other global North Country and one generated in
2:40:32
Africa, assuming they're both at the same level in terms of
2:40:35
integrity. There's no particular reason why the European carbon
2:40:39
credit, or Japanese carbon credit sells for 109 or $110,
2:40:45
and the African one for $9, sometimes even less. This is the
2:40:51
game. We go get carbon credits for 10 bucks in Africa. And then
2:40:57
we sell them for 100 bucks in the West. And it's all made up
2:41:02
to begin with. And so now we have to price it, how can we
2:41:08
let's let's talk to Carrie because it's his actual job to
2:41:12
come up with a way to price it. The President
2:41:14
Unknown: and the administration have not yet embraced any
2:41:18
particular carbon pricing mechanism. But the President has
2:41:23
directed us to examine those that are the most prominent that
2:41:29
are the most possible, and to think hard about what the
2:41:32
arguments are for and against and begin to work on it. I
2:41:37
personally, this is not an administration position. I have
2:41:41
personally supported the idea for a number of years, quite a
2:41:45
few as a matter of fact that one of the most significant best
2:41:48
ways of moving forward is precisely what President Ruto
2:41:53
said, which is pricing carbon,
2:41:55
Adam Curry: okay, pricing carbon, how President who,
2:41:59
that's the president of Kenya, he's, it's his conference. He's
2:42:02
the guy that said, it's a gold mine. Everyone pronounces
2:42:05
everyone's name differently. Just look at the other black
2:42:07
guy. Well, that guy, queen, Ursula, lift the veil,
2:42:12
Unknown: there's another solution that could unlock huge
2:42:15
resources for climate action in Africa mind, and that is carbon
2:42:21
pricing and true carbon credits. And this is my second point. I
2:42:29
believe, as you do President Ruto that setting a price on
2:42:34
carbon emissions is one of the most efficient and one of the
2:42:39
most effective tools in our hands. Because it fosters
2:42:45
innovation by the private sector, that's crucial, because
2:42:49
it makes heavy polluters pay a fair price that is necessary.
2:42:56
And because it creates revenues, that can support the clean
2:43:00
transition and developing countries. That's what we need.
2:43:04
And this includes also to include the carbon sinks that
2:43:09
have been mentioned and you are rich in carbon. And to reward
2:43:14
this contribution, we have to get there. We will discuss this
2:43:19
in more detail in the next session. So let us work together
2:43:22
to bring a proposal for global carbon pricing and true carbon
2:43:26
credits at COP 28.
2:43:29
Adam Curry: They want to do a global carbon tax. This is the
2:43:35
plan the global carbon tax that will finally price carbon. And
2:43:41
then we just go into all these African countries who are
2:43:43
clearly corrupt. And then we throw down some solar panels say
2:43:48
oh, that's this many credits. We say Oh, this area here with
2:43:51
these trees. Oh, that's this many credits, buying for $10 in
2:43:54
Africa sell them for $100 in the West. This is exactly what Al
2:43:58
Gore started when he when he started his whole bullcrap the
2:44:01
member he had a carbon exchange and exchange the i eta is in on
2:44:07
this which is near the big trading organizations I have is
2:44:12
I have a whole bunch of links in the in the show notes. But if
2:44:15
you see our members, it's listen to these air carbon aspiration
2:44:22
Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Bank of Montreal, BNP Paribas
2:44:26
John C Dvorak: interested in getting a free buddy
2:44:28
transaction?
2:44:29
Adam Curry: Yes. Everybody's in on this, except for a couple of
2:44:34
countries who don't like it.
2:44:36
Unknown: On the other side of the debate are African countries
2:44:38
with fossil fuel deposits of their own. Nigeria, Nigeria,
2:44:42
Senegal all have oil. They want to use it to enrich their
2:44:46
people, like some of the Arab states have managed to do that
2:44:50
or some African nations who have done this like Gabon, which is
2:44:54
both an oil exporter and a very green country. It has a massive
2:44:58
amount of forest cover a potential way to earn millions
2:45:02
and carbon credits. But the recent coup that has shown that
2:45:05
this wealth wasn't distributed among the people. Gabon's
2:45:10
natural resources were exploited. But not everyone
2:45:13
benefited.
2:45:14
Adam Curry: So I'm just going to posit that these coos are
2:45:17
amazing. You
2:45:18
John C Dvorak: said pause it.
2:45:19
Adam Curry: I know I said it on purpose so that you could like,
2:45:21
obsess over that. I'm going to state that these gurus are
2:45:27
pissed off people who see what's going on. See this bull crap and
2:45:31
the hey, we've got real energy here. We got real stuff to
2:45:35
export. Don't give us this, these solar panels. But if you
2:45:39
do, let us keep all the credits and let give us a fair price
2:45:42
like 100 bucks not 10 bucks a credit. And man this it's and
2:45:47
what they're talking about is air travel and shipping. That's
2:45:52
where the global carbon tax is going to come in and they're
2:45:54
gonna do it to the gore terrorists was down there. The
2:45:57
UN they're going to come up with it. Everyone's going to agree.
2:46:00
We need a global carbon tax on air transport and sea shipping.
2:46:05
That's how they're going to do it. And all these people in
2:46:08
money, yes. But but we all everyone's complicit. Whoa, look
2:46:12
at the map. Oh, global warming. Oh, we're all going to die. Now.
2:46:16
You're going to make these people rich beyond their wildest
2:46:18
dreams. rich,
2:46:22
John C Dvorak: rich, really pulling off one that's just
2:46:26
Adam Curry: they're fabulous. They're pulling this off. They
2:46:28
are. They're going well, it's taking
2:46:29
John C Dvorak: them a long time. I mean, Gore when he first
2:46:33
developed his exchange, I think,
2:46:37
Adam Curry: the right idea or on that guy died. That exchange guy
2:46:41
died.
2:46:42
Unknown: I think Disney
2:46:45
John C Dvorak: using the same crosswalk is Larry.
2:46:51
Unknown: Exactly. Yeah. All right. That's Africa. That's the
2:46:58
whole thing.
2:46:59
John C Dvorak: We can stop going and stop talking about Africa,
2:47:02
because it's killing the show. I have a couple of clips I want to
2:47:06
play before we're done. I want you to play the proud boy guy
2:47:11
sentenced 30 This show cares. Proud boy said I want you to
2:47:17
listen to this and tell me I got a question for you. Okay, here
2:47:20
we go. Now
2:47:20
Unknown: there was a another January 6 related legal
2:47:22
proceeding in that DC courthouse today. That is the fifth and
2:47:26
final proud boys member facing sentencing. What was the outcome
2:47:29
of that? Yeah, so
2:47:30
he was the fifth and final proud boys member. But he's not just
2:47:33
one of the members. He's the ex proud boy leader and he was
2:47:37
charged. We just got this sentence just moments ago, with
2:47:40
he was sentenced to 22 years in prison, which is the most of any
2:47:44
of the proud boys members. They have been charged with 1815,
2:47:48
some with tin, so he has the maximum charge here. 22 years
2:47:52
out of all of these probably members that have been charged
2:47:54
so far. Now that is much less than what the federal
2:47:57
prosecutors wanted. They asked for 33 years, arguing that the
2:48:02
peaceful transfer of power is just a fundamental thing here in
2:48:05
the United States. But of course, it's much more than what
2:48:07
the defense team wanted for TARIO. In that case, they wanted
2:48:11
15 years. And the defense team today argued over and over
2:48:14
again, that charging or sentencing him to any more than
2:48:18
15 years would put him on par with those other proud boys
2:48:21
members that were actually here on January 6, because remember,
2:48:25
TARIO was actually not here on that day.
2:48:30
Adam Curry: This is my favorite part of the story. He wasn't
2:48:33
even there. Throw in the brig.
2:48:35
Unknown: I don't get it. Well,
2:48:37
Adam Curry: isn't this also the guy who has no problem calling
2:48:40
Alex Jones from jail for 20 minutes? I was with
2:48:45
John C Dvorak: this idea that you take the guy wasn't even
2:48:48
there.
2:48:48
Adam Curry: seditious conduct. aren't half of these guys spooks
2:48:52
to start with
2:48:53
John C Dvorak: something's up with this whole thing. And
2:48:55
they're given these really ridiculous sentences for what? A
2:48:59
they never really explained it her sedition. I'm not sure what
2:49:02
it is. This guy's not even at the place in January 6, but he
2:49:07
gets the biggest sentence. And his lawyers are saying not only
2:49:11
give him 12 years, what kind of lawyers do you have? Dead that
2:49:15
were pushing for 12.
2:49:19
Adam Curry: I think it's meant to get a rise out of you, John,
2:49:22
is clearly something is clearly up with the OP.
2:49:26
John C Dvorak: Something is up period. I mean, there's the
2:49:29
second half of this clip is just meaningless compared to the fact
2:49:32
that guy wasn't even there. Let's play the second
2:49:36
Unknown: part. He was arrested a few days earlier for burning a
2:49:39
BLM flag that belong to a church and actually he was charged with
2:49:42
that as well. So he does have some criminal background here.
2:49:47
Crime years, we did hear from witnesses including his sister,
2:49:50
his fiancee, his mom, they all came out and just spoke of
2:49:54
course with tears about how much they wanted the judge to show
2:49:57
him mercy here with this case, but of course the judge has his
2:50:00
own ruling and his own analysis to go by here. We heard from the
2:50:04
judge multiple times today that he was very moved by something
2:50:09
that TARIO said about comparing one of the proud boys members
2:50:13
who actually launched into the Capitol building, comparing him
2:50:16
to George Washington that apparently touched the judge
2:50:18
quite a bit because he mentioned that throughout the case and
2:50:21
right before he sentenced TARIO to 22 years saying that it
2:50:24
actually slanders the founding father to make that comparison.
2:50:28
So that was the ultimate ruling sentencing of 22 years in prison
2:50:32
the most of any of these five proud boys members that have
2:50:34
been charged and yes, he is the final wine to be charged today.
2:50:41
Adam Curry: We're out of control.
2:50:45
John C Dvorak: isn't obvious criminally? burdah blm flag?
2:50:48
Yeah. Out of control. Chi wasn't even there. 22 years. It's
2:50:53
unbelievable.
2:50:54
Adam Curry: You know what, you know what stories coming next?
2:50:56
You know, 33 years because they were doing a podcast. watch you
2:51:01
watch
2:51:02
John C Dvorak: speaking. Somebody some podcast is gonna
2:51:05
get arrested for something
2:51:06
Adam Curry: speaking of a little sad. Megyn Kelly, and I've been
2:51:11
on our show twice and we have sparred. Yeah, you too are
2:51:14
friends. We have sparred over certain things we have sparred
2:51:17
over Russia and sparred over vaccines. She has a niche. She's
2:51:22
all in she has a new set. And I saw it now. She has guests and
2:51:26
she has a new slogan, no agenda, no BS. Okay. But did you see
2:51:31
this very sad statement she made.
2:51:33
Unknown: I regret getting the vaccine even though I'm a 52
2:51:36
year old woman, because I don't think I needed it. I think I
2:51:40
would have been fine. I got COVID many times and I it was
2:51:43
well past when the VAX vaccine was doing what it was supposed
2:51:45
to be doing. And then for the first time, I tested positive
2:51:49
for an autoimmune issue at my annual physical and I asked
2:51:53
woman to the best rheumatologist in New York and I asked her Do
2:51:56
you think this could have to do with the fact that I got the
2:51:59
damn booster and then got COVID Within three weeks? And she said
2:52:03
yes. Yes. I wasn't the only one she'd seen that with.
2:52:07
I'm sad.
2:52:08
John C Dvorak: That sucks. Well, so she got the booster that
2:52:11
means she got two shots. She got the two shots then because the
2:52:14
booster came after you start with the booster. So she's had
2:52:19
three shots and now she's got an auto immune thing
2:52:22
Adam Curry: she said rheumatologist says Does that
2:52:24
mean she has
2:52:26
John C Dvorak: there is some rheumatoid it kind of arthritic
2:52:30
in
2:52:30
Unknown: your heart. You started to develop arthritis. That's
2:52:32
horrible.
2:52:36
Adam Curry: That makes me sad.
2:52:38
Unknown: Makes me sad. Well,
2:52:42
John C Dvorak: there's got nice said nice news.
2:52:45
Adam Curry: She got a nice new set. Okay. All right. Wait, I
2:52:47
have one funny clip to go out on. Okay. I'm sorry. I was ready
2:52:50
to end it on that download is
2:52:52
John C Dvorak: a short eight second clip from a Delta pilot.
2:52:55
Adam Curry: Oh God. Okay, here we go. A BIOHAZARD issue a
2:53:01
Unknown: diary all the way through the airplane. So they
2:53:04
wanted to come back to Atlanta.
2:53:05
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. I was hoping we could get through the
2:53:07
entire show without talking about the diary of flight. That
2:53:13
was like the most emailed story and I refused to even look at it
2:53:17
to read it. If that's the most important thing on your mind,
2:53:22
people
2:53:23
John C Dvorak: know as they gay and in this show, funny clip.
2:53:26
Enjoy.
2:53:27
Adam Curry: Enjoy your carbon credits.
2:53:33
John C Dvorak: You're still irked about the AI test. Not
2:53:36
really.
2:53:37
Adam Curry: Up next on the no agenda stream we've got before
2:53:40
the schemes before the schemes. That's one of those crazy that's
2:53:45
crazy kids doing before the schemes. We have end of show
2:53:48
mixes from let me see we've got we've got the Tidewater
2:53:55
architect. We've got Isaac Contreras. Now Isaac is the one
2:53:59
with the with the sampler. And coming to you from the heart of
2:54:04
the Texas Hill Country here and FEMA Region number six in the
2:54:06
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
2:54:08
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I didn't
2:54:12
know what to tell you. I'm Jhansi Dvorak.
2:54:15
Adam Curry: We returned on Sunday with another minimum
2:54:19
three hour of media deconstruction, we look forward
2:54:21
to that. And also TJ the raffle will kick off our end of show
2:54:25
mixes remember us at the vortech.org/and A until Sunday,
2:54:29
adios mofos and a hui Hui, and search
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Unknown: anytime when you're scrolling off the screen to
2:54:39
medium makes you open the screen. You might refresh.
2:54:45
Adam Curry: By the way, don't start your promo with Hey, it
2:54:48
feels rude.
2:54:51
Unknown: And I say hey, what a wonderful time of day to hit
2:54:56
someone in the mouth and say listen to now watching the show
2:55:03
go to the show your day don't be shy
2:55:23
sponsors
2:55:31
in the morning
2:55:47
listen to what you hear changes everything. Okay? A lot wrong
2:55:56
with that podcast
2:56:00
John C Dvorak: hey now I want to mention that when I say the word
2:56:03
pod pod pod my husband got me into your pod pod pod when I say
2:56:14
the word pod pod pod Adam groans pod because he hates it pod so
2:56:25
don't use the term please
2:56:27
Unknown: we don't have time to wait for this knucklehead look
2:56:30
look look look today up to 75% of all emerging diseases come
2:56:35
from animals
2:56:51
cutting down forests failing
2:57:05
ecosystems health data you you have stolen my dreams blah blah
2:57:14
blah blah
2:57:21
blah creative fires neutral blah blah choking on smoke, choking
2:57:38
on smoke choking on smoke
2:57:50
build build
2:58:00
I speak their language they understand that
2:58:07
John C Dvorak: I'm a podcaster What else can I say? And she
2:58:15
goes nuts
2:58:17
Adam Curry: for you. Oh Hogfather nuts. What would you
2:58:21
say? was
2:58:23
John C Dvorak: unbelievable. It was just went on and on. It's
2:58:25
like what what what? Wow, it's like a big deal that you're a
2:58:30
podcaster I have no idea what you've created
2:58:49
Unknown: vorak.org/in A sort of leaves you physically sick
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