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Unknown: his dad Bubblicious
Adam curry Jhansi Devora August
13 2023. This
Adam Curry: is your award
winning give our nation media
assassination episode 1581.
Unknown: This is no agenda
Adam Curry: back in the lowlands
and broadcasting live parallel
to runway two, seven and
Schiphol Airport in the
Netherlands in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I can tell
that the sheep pole connection
ain't what it used to be. I'm
Jhansi Dvorak. Raglan Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Oh, is it a bad
connection?
John C Dvorak: It's not a good
one. Oh, it's okay. If you can
hear me. I can hear you. Yeah,
you sound great.
Adam Curry: Good. Oh, so it's
cracking up. It's messing up.
John C Dvorak: cracks up on on
modulation. Oh, so what I'm
excited, you me? Know is when
you're playing it loud clip.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, I'll try
to back it off a little bit just
for you. Sorry.
John C Dvorak: I can make them
so as the recording is good. I
just use
Adam Curry: you. You my friend.
You sound you sound. Fabulous. I
apologize. So I we got up early,
because you know,
John C Dvorak: well, you better
preface it because there's an
Amsterdam. How about that?
You're an Amsterdam, and we're
supposed to start an hour early.
But we started a half hour
early.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah. Oh, 20
minutes later than we should
have started. I'm telling you,
this was completely my mistake.
We I thought we had discussed,
like, no, maybe we'll do an hour
early and we really hadn't
finalized it. Now. Normally, I
always proofread the newsletter.
I was with my sister last night
we're having dinner. And the
newsletter comes in and I'm
like, I'm not gonna do that. And
Tina, Tina was like, screw that
old guy. No way. Don't do the
newsletter. And I forgot about
it. And then I never read that
we were starting an hour early.
You see I made it her fault
somehow was pretty good. So So
we're sitting downstairs, I'd
been ready for an hour and a
half. We said now we can have a
nice dinner because I won't be
done until midnight. So we'll
we'll eat together. And and I
just ordered coffee and Tina
goes Hey, Twitter's on fire.
Everyone's expecting like, Oh,
okay. So brought the coffee
upstairs and got started right
away. I'm sorry. That was
completely my fault.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was. Ah,
so here we are. Although I could
have sent out, you know, just a
friendly reminder, which I
should have done but I didn't
see the need and now and
carelessness. Yes.
Adam Curry: My my fault on my
part to Tina said You know, if
it were me, I would have double
checked and said just to make
sure said yes. I know. By the
way she has packed like Tetris
this trip. She's so good at it.
John C Dvorak: Everywhere.
That's what yeah, that's what
she has to keep. Exactly.
Exactly. As good as keeping time
though.
Adam Curry: So yeah, the
internet is not what it used to
be. I guess. It's not it's not
as great. I don't think so. No,
it's not as great as it was. Why
is that? So
John C Dvorak: anyway, because
war stories from the flight,
Adam Curry: you know, I wish I
could give you real warst I have
a very brief travel report, but
it was actually kind of smooth
San Antonio is where we left.
San Antonio hands down. A
million times better than than
Austin, first of all, from San
Antonio. And it's not Austin.
Now better pie was on the
lookout for the facial
recognition that everyone's been
talking about. Never happened.
No, it's definitely there. But
it's really sly it they got so
they have the cameras down below
mounted on the TSA kiosk
pointing up. But there's
supposed to be a sign that says
you can opt out there was none
of that. I did not make any
trouble but I took note of it.
So then we everything goes I
wasn't
John C Dvorak: sure to stop them
in their tracks. What is this
vacation I
Adam Curry: don't want to be a
troublemaker I want to get
there. The I have the new road
kit, everything you know, and I
have it set up and now I just
I'm very I'm able to quickly
take everything out and put it
in 18 bins, really it's about
seven bins. So they didn't no
hassle. They didn't you know,
check my bag because there's
nothing in it basically. So the
new process that's all working.
We fly to Detroit because that's
how we're gonna get there is
through by Yeah, I I I've been I
used to have Chrysler as a
client in Detroit. Back in the
thick new ideas days and I've
been to that airport a lot and
as we're walking through, and
yes, the airport
John C Dvorak: has got a subway
that goes through the airport.
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. They have
a subway in the airport. And I
was thinking you know, ma'am,
they're really ruining our great
American aviation system. You
know, because I it's Detroit is
one of those places where you
fly through it to get to some
other desk destination can you
just know that all these delays
and then your lack of pilots and
cabin crew and it kind of took
me back to the days when you
just you know you you had your
your your driver drop you off at
curbside 20 minutes before the
flight would leave, you throw
your keys into the little bin
you know you go through the
metal detector, there was no
issues with anything there
wasn't even screen your bags.
There was no bag screening I
don't even think at the time.
You know, just put your coins
into the little basket and you
grab them and you ran to the
gate you got on there's no TSA
now that bull crap. When I was a
kid, then it was it just I don't
know I had this just weird
reminiscing feeling about me
about just how easy and it just
used to work you know now you
see everyone unhappy. And
there's delays everywhere. It's
just it's ruined the whole
coolness of our air
transportation system is ruined.
You don't fly
John C Dvorak: thanks to eight
holes effects like this shoe
bomber. Yeah. The assholes who
kept hijacking planes to Cuba if
you remember that
Adam Curry: era. That was before
my time I wasn't part of the of
the Cuban hijacking. But even
then, after that we did you know
that's when we got the metal
detectors, but you didn't have
to take your shoes off. You
didn't have to put your bags. I
think there might have been at a
certain point they might have
had some kind of minor X ray
thing that you threw your bag
through but they never they say
oh hold on a sec. I didn't get a
good thing and they just put it
back in again. Now you're good
to go. They might want you if
you went off in the metal
detector. None of this go back.
Take your belt off take your
take your shoe the your your
watch. I take all that stuff
off. It's just kind of ruined
anyway. To make matters worse,
so we're we are on Delta from
Detroit to Amsterdam. And you
know, you stand in the line.
It's like a you need to
John C Dvorak: watch a weird
flight. Where are you going,
Dale, I'm going to Amsterdam
from Detroit.
Adam Curry: It's a cheap flight
is what that is. And then you
get that ladies and gentlemen,
please, if you came here going
to Amsterdam, you have to have
your passport in your hand. If
your passports not in your hand,
you will not be allowed to mine.
Okay, we got a passport and a
boarding cards. And you walk up
and there's a guy just stand
there says Look at that. Look at
that. Look at the camera. And
you look in the camera and
flash. I mean there's no flash
but the screen goes zip. And
then the little circle and
there's your head and you get a
green checkmark. And that's it.
They didn't look at your ticket
didn't look at my passport,
anything. So they already had me
facial recognition ized
John C Dvorak: or not. And that
was my guess he
Adam Curry: went fast. No and
had your name there too. We went
boom. Adam curry
John C Dvorak: go when they
taught when they took a picture
of you said Adam curry after the
picture. No one's
Adam Curry: taking a picture.
There's a screen that's about
John C Dvorak: your head it says
Adam curry it's so it sees your
shoulder because it took the
same picture of you down below
at the beginning. Remember?
Adam Curry: Well, that was in
but that was in Santa beginning
of your flight. Yeah. So So
you're telling me Yeah, but Dan
Antonio of the TSA put that into
the system?
John C Dvorak: Has to what I was
would they have your picture
with Adam curry name?
Adam Curry: From my prison
record? I don't know. Um,
John C Dvorak: there's no other
way that I can think of. Well,
and why not? It's just a
network. Just the internet.
Adam Curry: Come on. This stuff
never works. Try try re booking
your flight. They don't like
John C Dvorak: the fact that it
worked at that point 100
million. I'm just saying that as
possible. That what that is that
your picture in San Antonio,
which were they associated with
Adam curry? Is the say is how
it? No, I gave the name Adam
curry when you got to Detroit. I
Adam Curry: think when we hear
here's what I'm thinking when we
checked in, in San Antonio. I
think then they scan the
passport picture. That's how I
think it works. And that good.
So that's in the I don't think
the TSA system is connected. It
feels okay. Well, when that
would make more sense. Even
that's amazing that it works in
today's ABS amazing. Anything
John C Dvorak: works. I agree.
It's amazing.
Adam Curry: I can talk to you
from Amsterdam on this
connection. Oh, that's amazing.
So then here's the good part.
Friends of ours who have pool
and influence in the Netherlands
arrange for the VIP arrival.
This is the coolest thing ever.
Oh, so you you walk out of the
plane and you go up to halfway
up the the jetway and there's a
lady with a nice business suit
on Mr. Mrs. Curry. Yes.
John C Dvorak: Did they did she
didn't have a sign or anything.
She just
Adam Curry: No. spotted me
spotted me right away. Mr. Mrs.
Curry. Yes. I'm here from the
VIP center, or the VIP center or
dip center, VIP, the VIP, the
VIP, the VIP VIP VIP Yeah, they
called VIP VIP Center. I'm here
from the VIP center. Okay, come
with me. And so she opens the
door on the jetway opens up and
put this a little staircase. You
go dassanayake, basically
underneath the nose of the
aircraft. And there's an Audi
limousine, like, I don't know.
Like, it looks like a like an
eight. But it's a limo verse
stretch out, stretch Audi, and
we get in and it smells new,
like Corinthian leather. And we
just were driving around the air
side of the airport, and then
she pulls up. And there's all
these other people like, hello,
and they're on uniforms, you
know, like, white shoes, black,
black pants, and just you know,
uniform was dolled up. Okay,
let's dolled up and there's and
there's a customs guy, you know,
and in the Netherlands, the
customs are military.
John C Dvorak: So he was
straight so that this just took
you to us to a private customs.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: private customs. And
the guy was teaching to chunk
passport. You go up the
elevator, you go through this,
like
John C Dvorak: getting off a
private Yes, exactly.
Adam Curry: This is what the
king and queen do. And
John C Dvorak: you gotta set me
up for that I'm going down. So
I'm just visiting this,
Adam Curry: this VIP Center,
this is ripped and has your
crown jewels behind glass and
all the royal family. You know,
my girl makishima The queen who
hair flipped me. It's got, you
know, beautiful pieces of art.
There's huge antique books, it's
all there's all these different
rooms and we go into the canal
house room, which is like a
little suite with a TV and a
breakfast table and couches. And
they say oh, what can we get up?
You get some breakfast and I'm
here we're ordering breakfast.
That which is all you know, they
even do the breakfast with the
with a gold paint on the you
know, like the gold stuff on the
plate. So you get french toast
and cold
John C Dvorak: stuff. You know,
I met this place and they had
gold stuff on the plate. But she
has moved from Texas.
Adam Curry: What do you call it?
What chefs do what chefs do on
when they live in a fancy
restaurant they you know they
put little gold flakes and they
smeared out old leaf golf leaf
gold stuff. Gold leaf gold leaf
on my french toast and and then
to my shit Do you need to do you
need our claim checks? No, no,
no, it's all in the system will
take care of it for you. And
then a certain point it's like
and whenever you're ready, you
know you'd luggage is
downstairs. And so we mosey on
down after about an hour.
John C Dvorak: I'd be a little
better on the on the outbound.
Do you have that?
Adam Curry: I don't know if we
get lucky that way. But it was
fantastic. And then we're
literally across the street in
the airport hotel was kind of
funny. No, but that was funny.
That was fantastic. That was the
best part. The best part for
sure.
John C Dvorak: So so so good to
have friend JC faces. JC and
Jesse went to Hawaii. Wow. So I
asked him I said I gotta have a
story, some sort of an airport
story that compete with curry
here. And he didn't have one
except for the fact that I guess
there was some guy on the plane
who they dosed up with Ambien
and he started sleepwalking.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Oh, no.
John C Dvorak: And they had to
did took the whole crew to
subdue him and then tie him into
the seat. And as soon as they
strapped him in, he felt dead
asleep. And he didn't wake up
the whole time they put the
Adam Curry: gaffer tape around
him. I've seen that like no,
John C Dvorak: they didn't have
to because he conked out wow.
It's Ambien. They said it was
Ambien
Adam Curry: probably had Ambien
with a little glass of alcohol,
John C Dvorak: or something. Who
knows? But it's a pretty good
story. These drugs are no good
Adam Curry: now about about
Hawaii and about Maui
specifically. So we got several
pieces of email that people
thought we were huge dicks.
John C Dvorak: Was they thought
you were in particular? Well, I
Adam Curry: got a couple that
said you were in particular, but
it doesn't matter. I mean, we
were making a point about
something that we only had
historical information on. And
yeah, this happens a lot. Yeah.
And if you're coming at it from
a Oh, look at all the people
that are dead that we're just
finding about now. I mean, are
eight hours before that? We
weren't quite
John C Dvorak: here. Here's what
we were talking about the
following. How did this happen?
Yeah, exactly. And it's not
global warming and the whole
town burned to the ground. And
then there was no alerts and no
you all you do all the news
stories say the same thing.
Nobody said anything. We didn't
even get a beep on our phone. So
you have a bunch of dead people.
This thing was a disaster. How
does it town and complete town
like this? burned to the ground?
Well, I have it and they're on
the water. Yes. Then you look
along the shore and there's a
bunch of cars burnt to a crisp,
five feet from the ocean.
Adam Curry: So first of all, we
were not intentionally being
insensitive because when people
are like, I can't believe you
did that. Well, you can because
we won't Looking at it from
historical perspective,
John C Dvorak: we're not gonna
make excuses. Every year,
Adam Curry: I am gonna make some
history every year or so this
happens. But this was different.
And we do have some good boots
on the ground reports and the
best one is from Dustin. And so
if you look online, the
conspiracy theories are better
than I could have ever even come
up with. We have directed energy
weapons,
John C Dvorak: we just was
expecting that one. But that's
not
Adam Curry: what happened. We
but there is some. I think
there's some credence to some of
the thinking that's out there, I
have to tick tock clips just to
give you an idea of the kind of
stuff that I was being sent. So
today
Unknown: we're gonna give a
little update on the Hawaiian
fires. Now I want you to look at
this footage, and this surely
doesn't look like a fire to me.
It looks like something almost
exploded or something went off.
Adam Curry: And this this
footage looks very much like
that Northern California footage
that was started by Cydia
paradise paradise. Thank you, it
looks very much like that. Just
incinerated. And then there's a
tree, which is perfectly fine,
you know. So these are very
weird things. Now, what's
Unknown: interesting is certain
things are still standing while
other things are not now the
Governor did say this is climate
change doing this. Interesting.
What they don't talk about is in
January, how they had in Maui, a
smart city conference to turn
Maui into an entire smart
Island.
Adam Curry: This is true that
there is and I think that is an
interesting point, but not quite
the directed energy weapons
level yet
Unknown: changing everything to
electric renewables, solar
panels and pushing everybody
into electric vehicles. 15
minutes smart cities. So now
what's also interesting is next
month in September, Hawaii is
hosting the Digital Government
Summit, utilizing AI to govern
the island.
Adam Curry: We've gone off track
here, people,
Unknown: it's almost like
they're resetting something to
start rebuilding for this in
which they're trying to push.
Now when we look at all the
climate change narrative that
they're going to try to push but
they're not going to talk about
the weather modification act of
1970. I only recommend everybody
look into this act, because who
is involved in the weather
modification activities,
Department of Agriculture,
Department of Defense Department
of Interior, EPA and NASA. Okay,
so
Adam Curry: this guy goes on.
It's like they modified the
weather to ruin Maui. All right,
then we get the TIC tock girl,
Unknown: I have been trapped in
line for the last four days. And
I experienced firsthand what was
going on. What I went through is
not important. I need to discuss
it. This was not a natural
disaster. This was a direct
attack on the people and the
place of knowledge. As you know,
what lives their descendants
lived there. You know why? And
you know why it happened on
eighth? This is not something
that you believe it's time to
stop being.
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. Now, a
couple of data points. It is
absolutely true that there are a
lot of very wealthy, some famous
elite people who have big
homesteads in Maui. And for a
long time, there's been Native
Hawaiians who have not want to
give up their land they didn't
want to sell out to them. This
town is very historic town. And
this is where Dustin comes in
with his boots on the ground.
Behind la Lahaina, I think it's
I pronounce it says he's been
there in Maui for 14 years. He's
absolutely your analysis on
Thursday the fires in Maui
having nothing to do with
climate change completely spot
on. Here's the background which
I think is interesting. The
background were the worst case
Lahaina
John C Dvorak: by the way.
Adam Curry: The hyena behind the
area where the worst fires took
place, the west coast of Maui,
specifically the town of
Lahaina, the town is located on
the very western edge of the
island in the shadow of the West
Maui Mountains, which block
almost all of the moisture that
comes from the east. This is a
hot, dry desert almost all year
long. The town of Lahaina was
once the capital of Hawaii and
when the Hawaiian royal family
lived there. That was the mid
1800s. They would spend their
summers in the nearby olowalu
area because it was just too hot
to be in this town. The word
Lahaina roughly translated to
English means the unrelenting
sun, so this has been a hot dry
place for hundreds if not 1000s
of years. In the mid 1800s,
early 1900s Lahaina became a hub
for sugarcane production behind
the harbor became a center for
whaling and the whaling
industry. Hundreds of wooden
homes were built to house
whalers and sugarcane workers,
and many more large wooden
structures were built along the
world famous Front Street and
use the stores, restaurants and
hotels to supply the town. Fast
forward to present day behind as
a busy tourist destination. All
those old wooden buildings built
before modern building codes are
now Historic Landmarks cannot be
upgraded or changed by the new
owners due to permitting
restrictions. buildings were
built very close together
without any modern fire
mitigation measurements and
measures and located in a part
of the island that is surrounded
by hundreds of acres of dry
grassland, and has wildfires as
you mentioned on the show every
single summer season. A few days
ago, there was a hurricane that
passed to the south of Maui. Now
we know that that was about 500
miles away, but they did have 60
plus mile an hour winds on the
West Coast, which toppled power
lines in the dry grassland just
outside of town igniting them.
Let me reiterate, this happens
every year at this time, but
this year, the fires just
happened to be a little too
close to town and the addition
of the hurricane force blowing
in the direction of the old
wooden homes and stores is
enough to burn the entire town
of Lahaina to the ground almost
immediately. I think this is
exactly what happened. But there
probably was not a huge
incentive on the island. And
they probably been maybe even
waiting for this like one of
these piece of crap things going
to burn down. Because this is
gold, this is gold. And I also
think by throwing in the
hurricane, maybe we get some
kind of force majeure. You know,
insurance companies like I you
know, this is, this is an act of
God may get off the hook. They
may they may that that's why I
think this being played up so
much. But this is going to be
Dustin says he thinks the death
toll may be in the 1000
John C Dvorak: i Well, there's
only 1000 people missing, so
it's not gonna get into 1000s.
And we could get up to 1000
Unknown: up to 1000. But
John C Dvorak: I'm in total
agreement with this. Yeah, they
have this place was one of those
places that did great for
tourists. I mean, I love going
into these old rickety old
towns, the old wild west. And
you go in there and you can shop
and there's all these cute
little places and and meanwhile
the developers are looking you
know the smacking their lips.
This is no good. I mean, we
can't do it. Look, can we can we
care to have these old buildings
down maybe and build something?
No. So here's okay. Okay, fine,
fine, fine. And I think that may
account for the fed and well I
don't know if it did anybody any
good not to warn anybody because
they weren't going to stop the
fire anyway. But there was no
mitigation whatsoever. His day
are on the water. One tick one
pumper boat.
Adam Curry: Listen, Dame Jessie
boots on the ground. Fire
started in the morning, she's
there in Maui Fire Department
claimed it to be 100% contained,
and left left with the huge
winds blowing. I drove the road
where it restarted around noon,
and there was no fire at the
time. anonymously, my husband
Oh, okay. So and honestly, I
can't say that, I guess, let's
just say there was a water truck
sent to the site that was turned
back. She feels his whole
apocalypse of Maui could have
been completely avoided. And
there will be big lawsuits, the
older fire chiefs all retired in
the last couple of years. And
the new ones are all budget
conscious to one water truck,
which might have cost a couple
$1,000 would have stopped this.
So I'm thinking that exactly
John that knows like me, you
know, it's time to redevelop
this thing now, did they
consider that this was like a
box of matches that it will just
go up like that. And I can
imagine that if the ground is
dry. And it's all wooden
structures all built next to
each other that can go fast fire
can go very fast,
John C Dvorak: especially with
old wooden buildings. And so I'm
fan that that first note about
the buildings being a bunch of
old, you know, pieces of junk
basically, ready to go at the
drop of a hat that towel could
it burn to the ground at any
time.
Adam Curry: And I'm thinking
that because it came so quickly
and you saw the laser beams from
the sky pictures everywhere,
which turns out to the time
lapse launch from a rocket from
Vandenberg. I think I have half
a mind now that this was
launched into the ether just to
you know, to put it out to all
that's a crazy conspiracy theory
about the elites wanting it to
burn to the ground where they
probably did. But let's just
throw some directed energy
weapons stuff into the mix. And
then everyone will say it's a
conspiracy theory and won't have
to talk about it anymore.
John C Dvorak: I think there's
like $1.7 billion with a tourism
in that town. It's 1.327 I can't
remember the exact number, which
is about something like a lot of
Hawaii's told tourist industry.
So it's over a billion dollars
in tourism in that in that
island. Yeah, they figured they
can double that if they get rid
of that if they rebuild. What
modern tourists want modern
tourists are not like you and I
who like maybe really do like
going through walking around
Adam Curry: the old town. Yeah,
of course we love that. No
John C Dvorak: monitors that
they like they don't mind if
it's a little slicker a little
nicer a little more like
Disneyland Right?
Unknown: Exactly.
John C Dvorak: And I think that
they this is this is not they'll
never This is unsolvable as a
mystery it's just you can't keep
doing it you can't find the guy
that the match but
Adam Curry: well according to
Dustin it was the the winds that
blew that happens every single
year except this year. They
thought stop it. They said they
had it contained and they didn't
and they didn't have any they
hadn't. They weren't prepared.
Now, is that gonna
John C Dvorak: be just could be
a confluence of idiots. That's
always possible. Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So And believe me,
I'm the first guy to want it to
be a directed energy weapon. If
you know that. Oh, yeah. And I'm
looking at these pictures like
and then have the green lasers
from space that happened just a
few weeks ago. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's a good
one.
Adam Curry: Well, the green
space they aren't measuring
stuff. That's that's probably
John C Dvorak: I don't have any
clips from the Maui store. I
think we've beat it up there. I
think that covers us pretty much
but I do have since you're
talking about crazy stuff. I
have to I'm bringing these clips
and these are clips that are
there. They're almost a month
old. But but they're they're
Alex Jones Jones clips. And the
reason I'm bringing them up
because I just want to make a
point to people out there who
are podcasters or podcast
wannabes or everyone when has
the podcast. This is not Alex on
his show. This is Alex on that
show that value tainment group
Adam Curry: pet Patrick bett
Patrick Davis, what does it
John C Dvorak: do? And he's just
he's got three guys and it's a
well produced show in terms of
the quality of the sound that's
for sure. Patrick Davis that's
it. But the reason I want to
play this is because I have to
say we don't play Alex Jones
clips much. But when we when he
goes on somebody else's show.
Yeah, he brings it. Yes, he
does. He does it on Rogen. He
wherever he goes that people
should do they go You're right.
Alex Jones. No, you should bring
him on. And here's the I've got
three clips and these clips are
just unbelievable. Let's start
with AJ on on Biden.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I thought Hold
on a second. AJ Biden, sorry,
here we go.
Unknown: They're getting ready
to take out the garbage with
Biden. I think they'll probably
kill him. Or he'll die honestly.
Hold on some stairs or be
drugged or whatever, or or at
least be in a coma very soon.
And I've got very high level
sources that are there. You got
people Dougie, the Democratic
Party. Roger stones totally
dialed and he was on my show
yesterday. And he said they're
crazy enough that they're
thinking that's what Democrats
are saying right now. Okay. Big
Mike. Michelle Obama. Hey,
that's my line. And then VP
Newsom or Newsom. But Obama is
he's the real President right
now. And he'll third term
elected we have a video. He he's
now coming back out and saying
I'm involved and I'll see how
they're getting ready to get rid
of Biden. That's the only reason
those reporters are on a leash.
None of them ever asked question
for two and a half years
suddenly they're all attacking.
Yep, it's because they've been
let off the leash because Biden
was supposed to like he said
right before he's
Adam Curry: I love it how this
guy's going yep, yep. Yeah,
right on Yeah.
Unknown: won the election.
Remember? He said, Well, if I
don't do what I'm told the I'll
probably just develop some rare
disease and resign. Yep, he said
it multiple times. Letting them
know, man Well, he's still his
brain was still there remember
the deals then? But according to
Roger Stone, other sources
Rogers dead on. He's He's hangs
out with he talks to some of the
high level Democrats. Bullshit.
Joe Biden is telling him Don't
leave. She likes the power and,
and he's he's told him eff off.
Adam Curry: Alright, hold on.
Now, before you move on with AJ
clips. Tina and I were just
discussing a new version of my
theory. I wasn't even going to
bring this up. But now I need to
bring it up. Because what I'm
seeing ever since. Oh, let me
laugh first, as you're gonna
love this. You're gonna love
this. I agree with Alex Jones.
Biden is no way you gotta say
yep. Yeah, Biden's toast. Yep,
he's out. So the I mean, they've
got the special counsel. I'm
sure you have clips. I got
clips. We got that. Yeah, short
counsel. I got that. But what's
happening is this Obama gay
thing is catching fire. The
Telegraph. Everyone's you know,
this book that's been out
forever. Now all of a sudden,
it's like it's just not news.
No, I know. It's not news.
John C Dvorak: We do remember
this. Newsweek actually came out
with an edition of Newsweek that
said our first gate President
Obama, yes.
Adam Curry: But wait, because
I'm adjusting my theory. I think
so. The Democratic Party who the
heck knows who's running what, I
think we have multiple factions
inside the Democratic Party. And
there's one and there's the
crazy trans Maoist faction. You
know, the ones who have three
trans kids, and they're and
they've all gotten together and
said, This is our chance. This
is it. We've got to ease America
into it. We've got to let them
know Obama's gay. And then boom,
Big Mike 2024 first trans black
president.
John C Dvorak: This was a
logical conclusion that I knew
you would draw.
Adam Curry: Well, there it is.
I'm just putting it out there.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: it's out there.
It's out there. It's on the
record. At first I thought they
were trying
Adam Curry: to thwart Michelle
Obama by saying nah, by creating
controversy around her husband.
But now I'm these people are
crazy. They'll do it. Listen,
John C Dvorak: we know that you
know, what happened?
Adam Curry: Who knew we'd be
locked down? Who knew we would
have 1000s of children being
sterilized? I anything's on the
table for me.
John C Dvorak: With the 1000s of
kids being sterilized, that's
pretty interesting. And it's,
I'm gonna do the skip Biden
twofer. Now, that's the last
clip now, because AJ still
bringing it so here he is on
Trump.
Unknown: Yeah, I think I mean, I
think they're gonna demonize
even diamond diamond diamond dot
him. And then I I think they'll
blow their plane up. I really
got level is Trump. I mean, I
mean, I believe the deep state
establishment will murder him. I
mean, I believe he's gonna
steadfast go through all this.
You know, he'll be he'll be 30
points ahead in the primaries,
nothing's gonna stop him. And
then they just, you know, he
dies of a heart attack or they
poison him with a closer point
on the pricker.
Adam Curry: The pricker airline
and blowing up the airplane is
messy.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is me.
I'm just saying this is just AJ,
you know, on somebody else's
show. He just goes nuts. And I
just thought this clip had to be
clipped. This is the last one of
the three. And it I just did
just a head shaker and just
hilarious. I was
Unknown: told by the NYPD and
Secret Service a year and a half
ago when he went remember he
kept showing up late and
changing clothes like three
times, though he gets mad when
he goes in these weird because
they get him on speed too much
to roll him out and hope it's
okay. And it's not now. But when
he gets mad, he takes a big dump
in his drawers. I'm serious.
Okay. He's got him saying My
butt's been wiped.
Adam Curry: He said he did say
can we Fact Check? Check. Okay,
yeah, he brings it but this is
alright. I wasn't gonna do this
until maybe second half of show.
But this is going to bring this
kind of talk is putting all of
us in danger in grave danger.
Because now we have the Southern
Poverty Law Center, going after
podcasts. At first it was just a
little you
John C Dvorak: know, little all
those mate loony. Oh, yeah, but
Adam Curry: this this is new
now. Because now there's this
outfit called Tech against
terrorism. It's an NGO. Oh,
yeah. It's an NGO funded by the
United Nations our own money.
And the most recent, most recent
episode is about podcasts.
Podcasts are really used by by
terrorists and extremists to
recruit and plan horrible
things. And when you listen,
well have a couple of short
clips when you listen to it.
That I think everyone's in
danger.
Unknown: This week we're
discussing the use of podcasts
by extremist actors are growing
unconcerned. And Trent
concerning over the last 10
years or so extremists have
increasingly been leveraging
podcasts as a platform to spread
their messages recruit followers
on network with like minded
individuals, extremist groups
and networks on the far right
have developed an alternative
media ecosystem that is
reinforcing and normalizing
hateful ideologies, fringe
ideas, and conspiracy theories.
And the ease of creating and
distributing audio content has
allowed these actors to
regularly produce material that
reaches a global audience and
amplifies their extremist
worldviews.
Adam Curry: Now, raise your hand
whenever you feel they're
talking about no agenda, no
agenda, nation. No agenda
social.com. Anytime you feel
that that might be talking about
us. Let's talk about the scope
of this research they have done
with the SPLC the southern
Southern Poverty Law Center Lady
California regulators have Oops,
that's not the right one. I'm
sorry. To be this one.
Unknown: Most of the podcasts
that we studied were produced by
organized groups, although some
more not, we tried to pick up
mix, right, right. And then some
of them were individual
vehicles, so but even those
podcasts tended to have
recurring guests or CO hosts
that they would bring Get in as
kind of semi regular cast
members, I guess. And then
ideologically, we again tried to
pick a mix of the different
flavors of hate and extremism.
So there were some
Adam Curry: different flavors of
hate and
Unknown: extremism, Neo
Confederate podcast or some neo
Nazi podcast, we had variety of
what used to be called the alt
right podcasts. Yeah, so just a
big mix there, some anti
government style podcasts. So we
had about 18 that we studied,
and there were, oh, gosh, I want
to say 900, and some different
cast members across this podcast
and several 1000 episodes that
they produced over a 14 year
period.
Adam Curry: Who's that? This is
Southern profit loss. And
they're like, no, no, I'm
John C Dvorak: saying who is the
Adam Curry: dude, they've got a
map. They've gotten like a map,
a huge little digger. She
John C Dvorak: said there was
1400 episodes, and they were
1000s of guests.
Adam Curry: Cast on us by the
last minute which cast members?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we there's
no doubt about it. You're not
talking about us. All right.
Members, except for the two of
us. All right.
Adam Curry: Okay. So all right.
They're not talking
John C Dvorak: back it up a
little bit. I want to hear that
part of this. I want you to
podcast she's talking I want
let's move forward
Adam Curry: and you start
hearing it.
Unknown: I turn to Meghan to
learn what it is about podcast
specifically, that makes them
useful communication tool for
extremists.
Adam Curry: Mind you. All right.
I mean, we are not named
specifically. And they only have
a couple of like, not even
they're not even doing Steve
Bannon at this point. But they
have a map with all kinds of
dots and how they're all
connected. And Josh, yeah. Hey,
I've been on the Alex Jones
podcast, you have believe me?
We're connected as group.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah.
Unknown: They're very low cost
to produce. So you basically
just need a microphone and some
recording software. You can
throw the file up and it'll get
scooped up, hopefully.
John C Dvorak: Throw it up in
the air file, and
Unknown: you're good to go. But
different podcasts, catchers and
then distributed to a pretty
wide audience. It's cross
platform, low skill, and wide
distribution. Those are pretty
magical features, if you're, you
know, if you're trying to
promote hatefully deals,
John C Dvorak: not a feature.
Adam Curry: But also we made it
that way. So everybody can
podcast lady. That was the whole
point.
Unknown: There's also a variety
of different platforms that they
can live on. So you're not sort
of hitching your wagon just to
Spotify or just Apple podcasts.
There's a wider distribution
network. And this is helpful if
you're trying to stay under the
radar. Have one or not get
content moderated. Right, like
you
John C Dvorak: stopped. Stop it
for one second. I have to
interrupt. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So people are
dangerous. I just want you know,
these
John C Dvorak: people know I,
you, we they've been dangerous
for a long time. Yeah. But let's
let's stop for a sec. What was
the year that you'd say? What
was your first what year? Was
the podcast first implemented? I
would say let's say the first
though, during your source code
era 3000. In fact, 2003 20 Wait
a minute.
Adam Curry: That's important to
note. That's when we started but
the first official daily source
code was launched on August 13.
Two day in 2004. But the the
experimentation was already
happening in 2003.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, let's
start it. I'm going to go with
the 2003. Because it's a round
number because it's 2023. Yeah,
but it's okay to say 2014. So 19
years have passed was millions
of people putting up podcast and
all of a sudden after almost,
let's say, almost 20 years. They
do this?
Adam Curry: What you have to
understand first, these people
are morons and dangerous. So
they are just now discovering
that podcasts aren't only on
Spotify and Apple. They're like,
holy moly. There's people look
John C Dvorak: this podcast is
outside the Yes. Here
Adam Curry: are flying under the
radar with this stuff with wide
distribution that just throw a
file up in the air and boom
1000s of people have it
Unknown: hitching your wagon
just to Spotify or just Apple
podcasts. There's a wider
distribution network. And this
is helpful if you're trying to
stay under the radar of one or
not get content moderated right
like you if you just on YouTube,
or you're just on
Adam Curry: people have like
their own networks in there. And
they have their own cast
members, also known as producers
who are hosting these files and
it's outside of apple and
Spotify. Come on John here with
the ladies saying
Unknown: twitch or something
streaming your bulletins that
platform jump kick you off,
podcasts are a little looser,
loose. So you control the file
and how it gets recorded. And
then from there, it gets
distributed more broadly. So
there actually is. So, there
actually turns out to be a
pretty effective means of
building community and spreading
propaganda. Yes, propaganda
Adam Curry: and community now,
what kind of people are this?
What kind of, of individuals are
these? under the radar podcasts?
What kind of podcasts? Are
these? What's going on with
this?
Unknown: I asked Megan about the
ideologies promoted on these
extremist podcasts and OreImo.
Say your track. Yeah, just
John C Dvorak: stop it again.
When time is I? Because this is
so ridiculous. Who is this other
woman what it was? Did you get
this?
Adam Curry: This? This is the
tech against terrorism show. And
it's from an NGO named tech
against terrorism, which is,
John C Dvorak: which is a
podcast which has served
ironically, it's, well,
Adam Curry: they have a podcast,
been around for a while. Been a
real really ever since 2016. I
would say this is British chick.
She's the host of the show.
Okay, so she has two people on
from the Southern Poverty Law
Center. That's the other lady
and then you'll hear some
douchebag dude. So now she's
going to go into what kind of
podcasts are these? Who are
these these shadowy figures who
don't want to be on Spotify or
apple?
Unknown: I asked Megan about the
ideologies promoted on these
extremist
Adam Curry: ideologies, do they?
What ideologies do these
extremists have
Unknown: missed podcasts and the
audience they attract? There
were religious faiths podcast
was one that we looked at that
was Oh, no.
Adam Curry: Man, I picked a fine
time to be born again.
Unknown: Religious space podcast
was one that we looked at that
was Orthodox Christian, no,
caspo no
Adam Curry: Orthodox Christians.
Were there Russians, Ukrainians,
who are these Orthodox
Christians?
John C Dvorak: There's a bunch
of these.
Adam Curry: I've no I do know
that. I know God casters, I
mean, a lot of God casters in my
orbit
Unknown: in style podcast. There
was one that we looked at that
was a NEO Confederate, you know,
the South will rise against
actually we had at least two of
those in the set. It was an all
right podcast that was primarily
panels talking about the news.
There was a new boy Nazi podcast
that had a radio shock jock
sharp, John Matt, there was a
podcast that attempted to do
comedy and each of the guests or
hosts rather would have these
recurring characters that they
would play that were either
racist stereotypes and tropes,
or hey, I'm
Adam Curry: Zippy I'm a racist,
Unknown: or that kind of thing
trying to be funny. I mean,
really, it'd
Adam Curry: be funny. It sounds
like
John C Dvorak: we're doing the
Dana Carvey podcast, trying to
be funny,
Unknown: quite a variety of
different styles. And it was a
lot in generalities, I would say
it's mostly a male audience
right. And just like the groups
that we're setting in the in the
movements that we're studying
are typically male, although
I've written extensively and
others have to on women in these
movements, but it is typically
male. And then depending on you
ever
John C Dvorak: listen to Sophia
with an F, she's not call her
daddy or any of these No, man,
those sons of female based
podcasts, they're
Adam Curry: not the extremists.
You never listen
John C Dvorak: to them
Unknown: extensively, and others
have to on women in these
movements, but it is typically
male. And then depending on the
podcast, and depending on the
ideology that that podcast is
promoting. Some of them are
trends younger and some of them
trend older. It really just, it
really just depends. And then
there's some that fall right in
the middle and have a truly
mixed audience. So yeah, mostly
male. Mostly, what that's
probably not surprising, was,
you know, the podcasts that
we've chose for this sample were
largely white supremacy, you
know, white nationalist white
supremacist style podcasts. So
that is very surprising that
they, they tend to be white and
male and they just were mixed.
Adam Curry: white and male, old
and younger. Good. We're in the
sweet spot of this thing is
beautiful. Now, as I said,
they've discovered
John C Dvorak: they've
discovered now younger this
week. We're in the sweet spot.
Adam Curry: They've discovered
that you know, how does this
work? How did they get around
the content moderation, their
friends at Spotify, their
friends at Apple? Oh, how was
this being done? I think this is
the dude now comes the crack.
Unknown: Streamers podcast
distributed across the
internet's how are
Adam Curry: they distributed
across the internet, if they're
not working with big tech, which
we can then censor?
Unknown: I asked Bjorn so it's
really various. Some of the
podcasts are like open a
distributed tray like the main
distribution services wherever
you find your podcasts.
Adam Curry: Oh, Oh no, if you
say wherever you find your
podcasts, you might be an
extremist.
Unknown: People keep saying
podcasts, the problem of
podcasts of our is that you
don't have to distribute them
through a service like that,
like making it impossible to
watch
John C Dvorak: this guy, okay,
he's very affected
Unknown: service like that, like
making it impossible. So there
should be certain podcasts
through those services is
certainly good in terms of like
lowering the amount of
detection.
Adam Curry: But we're not being
detected.
Unknown: Podcasts are largely
kind of distributed through RSS
feeds. Anyone with a computer
can set up an RSS feed. And
that's the point spread to their
podcast, tree more subversion
ways. And so
John C Dvorak: you said
subversion
Adam Curry: reversers. So if you
just distribute via RSS, that's
versus that's more subversive
versus you know what he means
the
Unknown: more subverted ways and
so like, as we're talking about,
also content moderation and the
fediverse and more of
distribution, right at verse,
Adam Curry: verse, hello, no
agenda, social
Unknown: operation and the
Senate version more kind of
distributed in the Federated
Services, the syndication model,
Adam Curry: these people living
under a rock? No, they're living
on 100 million dollars of
Southern Poverty Law Center
money. That's that pile is so
heavy, they can't see the RSS
through the dollars
Unknown: versus the syndication
model of podcasts, being
distributed through RSS feeds is
really an interesting case study
as well in preparation for that.
And because of AdWords, the way
in which it's really left up to
the control of the individual.
Adam Curry: They have no
control, they have control.
John C Dvorak: They can't the
individual can control. Yes,
Adam Curry: this is this is what
they hate. They hate that we are
doing this ourselves. I'm not
gonna say they're
John C Dvorak: just gonna stop,
stop. I'm gonna stop. I don't
I'm not giving you a clip for
the day for this crap. But But I
am going to find a way to
nominate you for the Nobel Peace
Prize for for podcasts and 2.0.
So they can think I'm joking.
No,
Adam Curry: why, but why do I
deserve the I mean, I want the
peace prize. It would be nice.
But how do i Why am I deserving
of this?
John C Dvorak: Because
podcasting 2.0 Yes. For saw.
Yes. The clips you're playing
right now. Yeah. And created a
secondary, kind of a backup
system extremist tech podcast
and for the rest of the rest of
the days.
Adam Curry: Yes, extremist
terrorist outfit,
John C Dvorak: but you will get
you well, you know, that's up to
people want to find extremist
stuff, they'll find it this got
nothing to do with podcasting
2.0 or anything else? No, of
Adam Curry: course not. Well,
they are however, they, you
know, they, it's a big problem
for this, even though they have
hundreds of millions of dollars.
It's a real big problem
detecting all of these things.
Because you know, it's a lot of
podcasts, you have to you got to
sift through 1000s of episodes.
But
Unknown: all the detection
software has largely been
focused on music because a
copyright enforcement and so
there are elements of software
out there that is useful for
that and can be used for things
like automatic detection of
jingles are common across from a
tech perspective, discovering
what people are actually saying
in all your competence is a
challenge.
Adam Curry: So it's still a
challenge, even though
podcasting 2.0 literally has
made it so that you can now go
to bing.io. And you can search
the transcript of every single
episode we've ever done. Oh,
man, so support us now people
for our legal fund. My goodness,
they're nuts. These people are
nuts. They cannot stand that
we're using that anyone is using
the Internet. Anyone? Anyone
anyone I'm satisfied said anyone
John C Dvorak: that any single
person. And like, you know, the
clip was the you know, who's the
who doesn't have a podcast? Yes.
But that's not something that
you want. You don't want
everybody having a voice or
being having the ability to be
heard. Now. They they do noisy,
Adam Curry: but what I'm hearing
here is they are they're just
discovering because of that very
big pile of money they're living
under that there's this whole
ecosystem that's been around for
they think 14 years, but Okay,
give them that 20 years that
exists on RSS. We thought Google
had done away with that a long
time ago when they close Google
Reader but oh no. Turns out
these extremists are Still using
this to distribute their their
Hateful Eight Pages hate, just
hate and we can't we need to
stop them they need to be
moderated somehow.
John C Dvorak: Moderation. Yeah.
Anyway, that brings me to
January 6, January 6. I just did
just a cursory thing I probably
should do an essay on this but a
couple of conservative writers
had written up a actually
professors had written up that
Trump is really has an issue
with this. It doesn't make sense
when I read their essays about
how it's in the Constitution
that if you take part in an
insurrection, you are
unqualified, you can't run for
president, right. And all these
indictments and all this
bullcrap is really this all a
smokescreen for the real
indictment, which is the January
6 stuff. And the fact that from
day one. From day one, there was
a comment and we I remember when
this January 6 happened, you and
I have wished that well, why
watch this. I watched it on C
span. There wasn't anything
going on. It was a creation. It
was created by Nancy Pelosi and
it was worse than Pearl Harbor,
911 and all the rest of it. So
that brings me and so I'm
thinking that this is this is a
last ditch attempt is yes to
keep Trump from running and it's
all based on him being an
insurrection. Even though I have
lots of thoughts on this.
Adam Curry: Can I tell you what
Tina's theory was on this
because she's way into this?
Yeah, she's she's waiting
because she's always saying I
hate this. By the way. She's a
white supremacist. She's the
problem if Southern Poverty Law
Center, she's the one she's the
she's the mastermind behind the
no agenda show. So she's always
looking at how they're still
people locked up for the for
trespassing, in essence, what
they're trying to get them on
one of the one of the to Trump
charges, which is thwarting or
interrupting or trying to stop a
process in Senate, which is, you
know, that's an insurrectionist
thing. And so they're trying to
hide from what she says what I
think is reasonable. They're
trying to convict some poor
people like 65 and 68 years old,
of this work slouches of this
one particular crime, which is
interceding. I forget the exact
term in a governmental process,
which would be the exact process
is one of Trumps. Yeah, that's
that's one of his charts. And if
they convict this those people,
then they can they'll have a
case by case law to indict the
two
John C Dvorak: conditions. They,
this is a long way, but Okay,
good luck with that. I'm just
saying, let's listen to these
clips. This is the Epoch Times.
January, the pot times ended up
grabbing, getting hold those
same tapes that that Tucker
Carlson tried to show he showed
him for one day of his show and
then got fired.
Adam Curry: This is the guy who
was running the Capitol Police.
John C Dvorak: That's coming.
That's the last of the of these
clips. Let's start with the
Epoch Times one.
Unknown: The epic times on
Friday released a special report
called The January 6 tapes. This
comes after a three month
investigation by the newspaper
of over 40,000 hours of US
Capitol police surveillance
video. Some of the most dramatic
surveillance footage acquired
shows the disabling of Capitol
Police Officer Brian slick Nick,
he died the day after the
protest at the Capitol. The
cause of death was two strokes.
Federal prosecutors charged two
men with assaulting sick Nick
with pepper spray, one of whom
was Julien le cater. In this
video you can see a police
commander firing numerous bursts
of pepper spray from a high
velocity tank. The video shows
the spray passing by the left
side of signix face after which
he turns away and leaves the
area while caterers still
appears to be some distance
away. caterers fathers said they
never saw this video before the
Epoch Times showed it to them
saying they withheld this big
time since it is in Washington
DC. Everything is stacked
against the January Sixers
Adam Curry: oh yes and yeah he
showed him one time didn't
really show all the even these
good bits I don't recall Tucker
showing
John C Dvorak: no Tucker never
got the chance to show anything
he showed he had one down after
one episode one episode that and
then he went he by the time was
gonna get to this will be
covered. We'll get to the police
guy because I have a clip of him
special. But let's go to clip to
Unknown: another clip involves
the Oathkeepers their founder
Elmer steward Rhodes The third
was in court, partly for
allegedly initiating a phone
call to provide instructions on
how to attack the Capitol. If
defense attorneys at the time
argued the call never happened,
video now shows roads appeared
to be attempting to make cell
phone calls, but not having
success. The entire documentary,
which includes much more new
information on January 6, is now
online on Epic tv.com.
Adam Curry: Who have you seen
the whole thing?
John C Dvorak: No, I do all
these things for so long. I
haven't seen the whole interview
with the police guy either, but
I didn't have to. But let's go
to clip three. And this is the
one that triggered me to get a
clip for which I which is named
differently.
Unknown: Also on Friday, Tucker
Carlson published an interview
with Steven Sund, the former
chief of the Capitol Police,
Carlson had already interviewed
sons while Carlson was still
with Fox News. However, the day
the interview was supposed to
air Carlson was fired and Fox
never published it. So Carlson
interviewed him again, Sunday
says days before January 6, the
US military was well aware of
possible violence on the day of
the protest, but then changed
course all of a sudden watch
on Sunday and Monday, they had
been discussing locking down the
city, revoking permits on
Capitol Hill because of the
concern for violence. Instead,
on January 4, what does fuller
do? He puts out a memo
restricting the National Guard
from carrying various weapons,
any weapons, any civil
disobedience equipment that
would be utilized for the very
demonstrations or violence that
he sees coming? It just doesn't
make any sense.
sunde also says he was among the
only ones who was not notified
about the expected violence.
Adam Curry: This was a setup.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
interesting to me and I've done
the last clip as well. I played
the last of didn't say what I
think but this is the Steven son
summary. Now here, this is a
minute and here's the here's the
preface to this the setup does
he sets the guy down and talks
to him for 55 minutes. And
luckily, he's got a producer now
that took the kind of the nuts
out of the 55 minutes and put it
at the beginning. So it's been
produced. Yeah. And the
beginning has little snippets of
really what's what's important
because who needs the 55 minutes
and Tucker I've noticed the
starting to go long. With these
interviews he sit somebody down
and he starts talking long hours
a problem. When you're not, you
know, you're not confined by a
network TV or anything where you
got to segment you got to be
blocked. You got to see block.
Adam Curry: Yes, this. He's not
Joe Rogan.
John C Dvorak: Right. He's not
Joe Rogan. And, and Rogan, you
know, it goes naturally long,
but distrib, I'm reminded of
writers just as an aside, that
Greenwald, Glenn Greenwald is a
perfect example. When writers
when the internet first came
along, I knew a lot of guys who
would you'd write in print, if
you wrote in a newspaper, in
particular, these newspapers
designed to be top down written.
So you write all the important
stuff at the beginning and gets
more and more less important. So
you can just chop it get Chop,
chop, chop, so you can fit it
into a space. And but news
magazine, writers would have a
certain amount of words you can
produce. But once the internet
showed up, and they could write
online, some of these guys just
didn't know how to stop. Yeah,
they would go on and Tucker is
falling into this category.
Agree. So luckily, he's got a
producer who took the snippets,
and put them all at the
beginning. And here they are,
Unknown: you've described his
his intelligence failure. But if
failure is something
that happens accidentally, none
of the intelligence was coming
up talking about the storming of
the Capitol killing members of
Congress were killing my police
officers was ever discussed at
the conference calls that I was
on at least doesn't seem to make
sense at all. It doesn't make
sense. I'm looking at my men and
women having their asses handed
to him and my first thought was,
fuck it. I will take whatever
discipline there is,
once things got out of control
for 71 minutes, Pelosi refused
to allow you to bring in the
National Guard. Why don't we
have answers?
It doesn't seem like people
really want to get to the bottom
of it. And it gets worse from
there. I had a conference call
with the leaders of all the law
enforcement it was a call I
coordinated not one person on
that call talked about any
concerns for the intelligence
the attack on the capital that
we're seeing that was out that's
what's that's what's scary. This
sounds
like a setup to me. I'm sorry.
It does you Jersey State Police
beat DC National Guard to the
Capitol tweet.
Cops drove from New Jersey
before the National Guard could
get from the armory on Capitol
Hill to the Capitol. Why isn't
the story everywhere? I have no
idea.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's good.
That's good. Well, you know
what? There's some self
awareness there at least he's
got a producer that knows what
he's doing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
needed. Yeah. Now my thoughts on
this are interesting because two
reasons for firing Tucker's are
always blamed nowadays are
blamed on dominion. Dominion
demanded as part of the
settlement which was a
ridiculous settlement to begin
with, by the way, make any
pushed
Adam Curry: by a lot of
prominent podcasters including
Megyn Kelly, and a whole bunch
of other people all saying It
was because of this because of
dominion. And we never bought
into that.
John C Dvorak: It's fishy
because the whole Dominion
lawsuit is fishy and that the
settlement is fishy when you a
company like News Corp could
stall a proceeding like that. To
Infinity, they could do it if
they wanted to. You don't just
roll over for a billion dollars,
it doesn't make any sense. And
whether there was even any
injury, it doesn't make any
sense. And so that didn't blame.
Tucker's firing on Dominion
demanding it. I think it's this
guy. This interview plus the
videotapes that Tucker was
starting to roll out was ruining
the great plot to get rid of
Trump through this insurrection
rule. statement that's in the
Constitution. And Fox was in on
it because Murdoch never wanted
Trump to be president. No. And
the Murdochs nowadays are all
bunch of Democrats. Well, like
you'd like to say the whole
always, always was Democrat run
and so so. So Tucker was ousted.
And so Tucker couldn't even get
this interview back. They never
showed it. So he went and re
interviewed the guy. Yeah, there
you go, which is like, hey, they
didn't expect that, did they?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well,
John C Dvorak: this really
stinks.
Adam Curry: So we need to
reiterate that. This was a it
was protection. And they had it
set up a long time in advance,
you know, the we had all the
National Guard and the fences
and everything. And it was all
set. And I'm not even thinking
that they even had the camera
angles all set. And we kind of
think back about the televised
event that
John C Dvorak: it was, because
you never saw that on C span.
No, no, no, they
Adam Curry: had they were all
set for it. And the I think
there were just two or three
minutes away from a
constitutional procedure, where
we say, Hey, hold on a second,
let's take a vote on the
ultimate slate of electors,
which has happened, which I
think it happens almost every
election, but this election and
Pence was clearly co opted into
it. And bar I mean, Trump is
great at firing people very bad
at hiring people. And, and, and
the right this is a last ditch
effort, but it was set up very,
very carefully. And now they're
going to do us a couple of these
poor saps as examples to get
this one particular type of
conviction. And then the
laughable part of Trump was
directing people to do that he
was telling them to go commit
violence, which was exactly the
opposite is true. In fact, he
said, peacefully, within your
patriotic, patriotic protest, I
think he said. And, you know,
maybe in three years, everyone
will come around. And we'll all
recognize what really happened.
What is out there, and I thought
this was pretty good. I'll play
this a supercut. Of the mainly
Democrats, politicians, but also
Democrat Party supporters,
calling for violence against
Trump when he was president. And
this is from the two 620 16 era.
Unknown: I just don't even know
why there aren't uprisings all
over the country, maybe there
will be there needs to be unrest
in the streets for as long as
there's unrest in our lives. I'd
be better throw a punch, you had
to throw a punch
Donald Trump, I think you need
to go back and then punch him in
the face and I thought he should
have punched him in the face. I
feel like punching him.
I'd like to take him behind the
gym. If I were in high school,
or in high school, I'd take him
behind the gym and beat the hell
out of him. No, I wish you're in
high school. I could take him
behind the gym. I will
go and take Trump out tonight.
Take them out now.
When was the last time an actor
assassinated a president?
They're still gonna have to go
out and put a bullet in Donald
Trump show me where it says that
protests are supposed to be
polite, and peaceful.
I have thought an awful lot
about blowing up the White
House.
Please get up in the face of
some congress people. People
will do what they do. I want to
tell you for Dutch, I want to
tell you Kavanaugh you have
released the whirlwind and you
will pay a price target
to go in there we're going to
this is just a warning to you.
Trumpers Be careful. Walk
lightly. And for those of you
who are soldiers make them pity
if you had to be stuck in an
elevator with either President
Trump Mike Pence and Jeff
Sessions who wouldn't be one of
us have to come out alive
Adam Curry: Yes a memorable
moments in there. Yeah. So
that's that, by the way is
political speech. It's all good
political free speech, even
though they're being very
violent, appalling calling for
violence, etc.
John C Dvorak: This was another
little thing I want to add to
this idea that this You know all
about the insurrection to try to
set trump up for that he's been
he did say peaceful is the is
the bull crap story about him
wanting to go to the Capitol and
the Secret Service guys refusing
to take him there? I think the
Secret Service guys have been on
his side all along. And if and I
brought this up in the
newsletter, which is a question
is just like I should have
brought up in the last show,
which is with this guy that they
shot to Trump guy, they shot the
FBI shot because he was
threatening Biden. Why is the
FBI investigating? This isn't is
supposed to be the Secret
Service? What's the FBI got to
do with it?
Adam Curry: One of our producers
emailed me that he has a friend
who works at the Secret Service.
And he asked this exact
question. And he said, I don't
know you should ask them money,
something like that. So now
there's a lot of things wrong.
But I love this
John C Dvorak: this was wrong.
Yeah, I guess that's one way of
putting it
Adam Curry: listen to this
Newsmax or would they not what
they're now doing Newsmax
they're so they're so afraid of
getting D platformed themselves
happened,
Unknown: and that they allowed
that to happen? And that media
doesn't want anybody to talk
about it. We just have to make
sure they don't cheat on the
elections, because that's the
question I get more Sir, will
they do it again? Will they
cheat again, we're not gonna let
them I believe I won that
election by many, many votes,
many, many hundreds of 1000s of
us. That's what I think just to
note, Newsmax has accepted the
election results as legal. And
final.
Adam Curry: Just a note, we have
accepted the results as legal
and final. Yeah, because they
have to disclaim everything now,
otherwise, you know, they get in
trouble. Okay, so you're no
agenda show producers out there,
which is truly your show because
you give us as much information
as you possibly can. We've been
ahead of these types of stories
and been called nut jobs for
many, many years. And it was in
fact, in March of 2020, when we
called the the panic around
COVID that we call that bull
crap. And certainly, I think a
lot of people came to the show
and felt a lot calmer during
this whole period, which was a
version of mass MK Ultra
traumatizing, not just
Americans, but the entire world.
And it's still being used. And
now we are three years later
working on the full third year.
Yeah. No, no. Yeah. For three,
almost 434 years. And now Oh,
yes. But now people are figuring
it out. Oh, okay. Here's the
money. Honey was Senator Ron
Johnson, they've finally figured
it out.
Unknown: It's just extraordinary
to me that, you know, the
government was working with
social media to amplify lies and
suppress truth and has been
doing so repeatedly. Why
couldn't the American people
know that? You know, there were
other alternatives to treat?
COVID? Why can't the American
people know that there were side
effects with the vaccine?
This was all pre planned by any
elite group of people. That's
what I'm talking about event
two, a one that occurred in late
2019. Prior to the rest of us
knowing about this pandemic.
Again. This is very concerning
in terms of what has happened.
What is happening, what
continues to be planned for our
loss of freedom. Again, it
Adam Curry: is Maria Bartiromo.
Oh, yeah, I see it now
Unknown: most but unfortunately,
they're very better than Yup.
Not much, even in concert
willing to take a look at this.
They all push the vaccine. They
don't want to be made aware of
the fact that the vaccines might
have caused injuries might have
caused death. But people just
simply don't want to admit they
were wrong, and they're gonna do
everything they can to make sure
that they're not proven wrong.
We're up against a very powerful
group of people here, Maria
bunting, unfortunately, you say
what can we do? Well, you know,
we do have reporters like
yourself, like John Solomon,
other people that have the
courage to report the truth
against the mainstream media and
against the narrative. But
that's the only way this is
going to be solved as we need
the truth to be exposed. We need
more Americans to listen to the
truth on podcast host to the
truth, to pull their heads on
the sand, quite honestly open up
their eyes and understand what
is happening in this country. We
are going down a very dangerous
path. But it's a path is being
laid out in plan by an elite
group. Hello,
Adam Curry: hello, Senator.
Hello, Senator, we're going down
the dangerous path
Unknown: under control over our
lives, and that's what they're
doing bit by bit. They do it by
increasing mafia, massive
government spending, increase
the size of government takeover
of the coup, these amendments
that are coming up, they're
going to be voted on in 2024 and
the who are frightening and they
really risk taking away all of
our sovereignty, but people have
to wake up awakened to the
dangers of the moment.
Adam Curry: So now We have the
big walk back. And this is
important because it's
happening. One of our producers
even pointed something out to us
that we we barely caught. The
big walk back is taking place
now and we have to pay attention
to it and we will certainly
highlight it whenever we catch
it. So the first thing is taking
place as the FDA gets hauled
into court. Doctors are suing
the FDA because they lost their
practice. They've lost their
license, they've lost their
careers, because they prescribed
Oh, horrors. They prescribed
ivermectin as you, as you said
on the previous episode about
the horse, the PBS show the all
horse
John C Dvorak: show where they
showed the horse.
Adam Curry: Because New because
people were taking horse
ivermectin. Some actually were
because you couldn't get
ivermectin in pill form at
doctors, pharmacies. We're not
We're not allowed to prescribe
it. We're not allowed to fill
prescriptions, doctors that
prescribe to
John C Dvorak: prescribe good
I've talked to pharmacists, the
young if a doctor prescribed it
to pharmacy couldn't fill it.
Adam Curry: So just a two minute
clip from this. From this
hearing, and you say at the
judge, you're going to hear the
millennial. Nothing against
millennials, but just It's
notable. This doesn't sound like
a seasoned lawyer who was
defending the FDA because the
FDA was tweeting, stop it. Stop
it. Stop. Stop taking ivermectin
stop prescribing ivermectin. And
these doctors said, Well, you
know, you said stop it. And it
was very clear and your
directives and now they're
walking it back saying no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
you're misunderstanding what we
were saying.
John C Dvorak: I love by the
way. I love this one because I
think it's in here. They said it
was a quip
Unknown: whippy and may it
please the Court, Ashley Honnold
for the United States. This case
is about informational
statements made by the US Food
and Drug Administration to
inform consumers about the
dangers of using certain drugs.
He made these statements in
response to multiple reports of
consumers being hospitalized,
after self medicating with
ivermectin intended for horses,
which is available for purchase
over the counter without the
need for prescription.
Adam Curry: You see how there
this is? It's just not true. It
was. It was in fact, CNN mainly,
who accused Joe Rogan of taking
a horse medicine. And you
remember he had he had Gupta?
Which,
John C Dvorak: yes, he had
Gupta. Sanjay Gupta. Who do you
Adam Curry: know what? Why? Why
were you lying? So I had regular
ivermectin, which is just a pill
form for humans. And you kept
saying I was taking horse paste.
So now that they're lying,
they're lying. Because now they
say, oh, no, that was because
people were taking horse horse
medication if
Unknown: they did not purport to
require anyone to do anything,
or to prohibit anyone from do
what about
when it said No, stop it. That's
the judge. Why is that a
command? That seems to me it's
that's if you were an English
class, they would say that was a
command stop it. That is
different than we're providing
helpful information.
Your Honor, the language that
the FDA used in these tweets are
merely clips. And I don't think
that these clips change the
substance of FDA statements as
plaintiffs consider that
a command. Stop it.
The tweets about the horse
ivermectin were intended to
advise consumers that they
should not use ivermectin
intended for animals and that
this could be unsafe. I'm sorry.
Can you answer the question,
please? Is that a command stop
it? In some contexts, those
words could be construed as a
command. But in this context,
where FDA was simply using these
words in the context of a quippy
tweet meant to share its
informational article. Those
statements do not rise to the
level of a command. Plaintiffs
concede that it was proper for
FDA to identify floche
ivermectin is FDA authorized for
it's FDA approved for certain
conditions like skin conditions
or parasites and it's not FDA
approved for treating COVID
Adam Curry: quippy the FDA in a
life or death situation where
we're locked down, can't leave
our homes have to close
restaurants and stores. They're
just hard. They're just goofing
around doing quippy stuff.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
humorous. they're funny,
Adam Curry: they're doing
comedy.
John C Dvorak: He quit doing
stand up
Adam Curry: quippy. What is the
exact definition of quippy?
John C Dvorak: Is it like a
short gag or a one liner?
Adam Curry: Because I mean is
this the job of the FDA quip is
a shortening of quippy a noun or
a noun no longer in use. About
that?
John C Dvorak: I don't know
about that. The clever usually
Adam Curry: taunting remark is
the first definition, or a
witty, or funny observation or
response usually made on the
spur of the moment. So that
would be my cross examination.
Are you in the comedy business?
FDA? Tell we got to walk it
back. Oh, no, no, haha, we
didn't tell.we didn't ruin
doctors careers. We didn't we
just happen to laugh. Just
having a laugh. Like on CBS. And
this is one of our producers
caught with Dr. Celine gounder
was talking about COVID
returning, and about your
booster booster
Unknown: that's in the fall. So
the booster at it.
Everyone's six months and up can
get the booster if they want to.
But the groups again that most
needed are the groups I
mentioned earlier. So the
elderly, pregnant women, people
who have immunosuppression,
chronic medical conditions,
especially heart or lung
disease, and people who live in
nursing homes or other groups.
But if you're not
in that group, do you think you
don't really have to get it?
That's what I'm trying before.
That's really up to you. Okay,
so some people feel more
concerned, you know, are you the
person who gets the flu shot
every year, you're probably
going to want to get that COVID
shot. If you're, you know, if
you've already been fully
vaccinated, it's less important
for that young healthy group.
You mentioned flu shot last
year.
Adam Curry: So now it's up to
you
John C Dvorak: to know they've
softened it a lot. And that you
should notice this and we
haven't pointed it out, but it's
been going on, it's up to you.
Adam Curry: It's not, we're not
being forced forcing that
there's no mandate. It's not
like you're gonna get fired from
your job.
John C Dvorak: You're gonna kill
your grandmom if you don't get
it, stuff like that. And
Adam Curry: now we have Eris,
which is a variant of interest
Unknown: was interesting. I was
talking with some friends about
the last time we had a booster
shot. We used to get them so
regularly and it's been a
minute, the World Health
Organization has labeled eg five
as a variant of interest. I'm
wondering what would need to
happen for it to become a
variant of concern and how much
more important become for us to
get boosted. Boost?
Yes. Well, Ilana to become a
variant of concern, it would
have to either cause more severe
disease, or even more
importantly, evade the
protection of our current and
anticipated vaccines. And the
Food and Drug Administration has
said, we'll have a new
monovalent booster ready for the
fall to carry us through the
winter. We expect this vaccine
to be available sometime in
September, perhaps late
September. So stay tuned for
those announcements.
Adam Curry: Stay tuned. What is
this commercial? Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes, it is. Stay tuned for more
information. Stay tuned. Keep
keep it here on CBS for more
information on this great
product.
John C Dvorak: Very seriously.
This is interesting because it
leads into this series of clips
on the agency captures and this
is the thing Kennedy's harping
on which is that the FDA, the
NIH and the CDC have all been
captured by the industry, by
Adam Curry: the way, Kennedy
because we had dinner with my
sister last night with their
family. Couple of No, Tiffany.
Tiffany, yeah, no Willow we're
seeing in Italy next week. Okay.
And, you know, so
John C Dvorak: Denise, the
activities are more gossipy one,
she's quite amazing to talk to.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna send this
clip to her. Yes, she has the
cost and she definitely is the
gossipy walk. And so she would
you know, what are you guys
thinking about present? And we
say, No, we've really we're
really liking this Kennedy's.
He's talking some sense here.
She says, But wait, isn't he
just he's a just using the
Kennedy name as an anti Vaxxer.
Nuff said.
John C Dvorak: It spreads
everywhere versus which is gonna
Adam Curry: work but it works.
That That message is global.
It's a good one. It's solid.
It's solid.
John C Dvorak: Well, he's got
time he's got to he's got to the
end of the year to reverse that
message. A good luck and good
luck with that. I'm sure ops
Yeah,
Adam Curry: ops OPERS will be
OPERS.
John C Dvorak: So let's go as
Farm Agency capture one this is
quite interesting.
Unknown: Follow the money.
That's the message from
government watchdog group open
the books this week. It's just
released a report on the extent
of third party royalty payments
flowing to scientists at the
National Institutes of Health.
While royalty payments aren't
illegal, they are live that
could potentially create
conflicts of interest. Earlier
today I spoke with the founder
and CEO of open the books, Adam
and Jeff ski. Adam, thanks so
much for joining us. Your latest
report poses the question has
the healthcare industry captured
the NIH? In summary, what in
your findings caused you to ask
that?
Well, the entire pharmaceutical
complex in the United States is
roughly 3000 companies. And that
includes the new startups. When
we just cracked open the
companies paying third party
royalties, $325 million, with a
third party company royalties
back to the NIH and 2400 of its
scientists, there's actually
over 2000 companies in the
database. So it begs the
question, has the industry
captured the agency? Because
this third party wealthy scheme
runs so deep?
Adam Curry: Wait a minute,
there's gambling going on there?
John C Dvorak: How long? 325
million to 2500. Guys, and I
guess I don't know how
Adam Curry: long have we been
talking about this forever.
John C Dvorak: We don't have
numbers and this guy's this
guy's opened the books. He's got
an interesting project. And
we'll get into it at the last
clip all mentioned it. This is
an open source project. It's
quite Oh, quite unique. Here we
go.
Unknown: Last year, the acting
director of the NIH, Lawrence
Tabak had said wealty payments
have the appearance of a
potential conflict of interest.
Do you have a specific example
of that from the data?
Well, we do so there's a Chinese
company that actually licensed
technology in his paying
royalties to the former director
and the current director of
vouches Institute, they've got a
lab over there called the lab of
infectious diseases. He's all
that company is also paying
royalties to pay the royalty to
Douglas Lowry, who is he he is
three times the Acting Director
of the National Cancer
Institute. So these are leaders
within the institutes over at
NIH, and they're receiving
royalties from a foreign payer,
located in China and owned by
the Chinese Communist Party.
sinopharm sinopharm was the they
distributed and manufacture the
Chinese version of the COVID-19
vaccine. This rule on Institute
of biological products that's
cutting the royalty checks to
these executives over at NIH is
also very close, both in
proximity their neighbors to the
Wuhan Institute of neurology,
and they collaborate with the
Wuhan Institute of neurology on
different projects as well. So I
think this is a great example
of, of, you know, the potential,
an entire landscape littered
with conflict of interest,
Adam Curry: you know, these
clips are actually a problem.
It's because of these clips that
peep longtime producers who have
been listening to the show, they
say, I can't take it anymore. I
have to stop listening. My wife.
John C Dvorak: She says, I can't
listen to the show. It's to
dance. To dance, I have to take
a nap halfway through it. We
talked about this and I said
let's make the show more dense.
Unknown: She has to take a nap
John C Dvorak: her out. Because
this is all new information.
Anybody who just hears it. But
it does scandal to me and this
one is that an NIH and the CDC,
these people this is these are
taxpayer funded operations.
Adam Curry: And half. Half of
NIH is money comes from the
military. Also, yes. Which
John C Dvorak: is taxpayer
funded, that those royalties
coming in from from licensing
should go to the taxpayers, it
should go to the coffers of the
government not to a bunch of of
creeps that are skimming money
from the from the taxpayer. This
is ridiculous. But we've known
Adam Curry: that we didn't know
the exact numbers, which is
nice. But does he also say how
much went to Fauci how much went
to Colin? What? Oh, he's just
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he does. In
fact, in the last clip, he did
mention that was the deal. Fauci
Institute never heard of that
one. Yeah, and Fauci, the head
of the NIH got half the money,
but just go to clip three,
Unknown: and he mentioned
foreign countries. In these
payments. Your investigation
found drugmakers in 31 foreign
countries, including China, as
you mentioned, Russia and
Belarus, which had paid
royalties to top NIH officials.
Should American taxpayers be
concerned about that? Yeah.
Countries like Belarus, which is
rabid government corruption and
is a satellite puppet of Putin
in Russia, who knew that US
taxpayer paid inventions over at
our crown jewel science labs are
being licensed to companies in
Belarus, or animal vaccine
makers in Russia, with which the
Washington Post had alleged has
historic Soviet ties to being a
front for a bio weapons factory.
I mean, you know, there is the
entire database here. or has the
potential to unearth not only
conflict of interest, but also
ways that all these different
companies used our crown jewel
national lab to outsource their
own research and development.
Adam Curry: No, yeah. Beautiful.
Beautiful. Beautiful. Not Not
everybody's winning though. No,
no, no, no, no, no, no quickie
Unknown: down to the Supreme
Court temporarily blocking the
landmark opioid settlement with
Purdue pharma, the maker of
Oxycontin, by the administration
objected to the part of the deal
with shields the company's
owners, the Sackler family from
civil opioid related lawsuits,
the company also agreed to pay
$6 billion to victims and
families of the opioid crisis.
The court is expected to hear
arguments before the end of the
year.
Adam Curry: Now, I think I know
what's going on here because the
Sackler family, although they
kind of invented the model, they
are peanuts compared to Johnson
and Johnson, who paid I think
$25 billion in fines, Walgreens,
who were distributing boys, the
big boys that and so like, you
know, the Sacklers they were
kind of douche is they didn't
share. They didn't share and all
the money. They didn't give
anything to
John C Dvorak: the FDA. They get
yeah, there's an element of
Adam Curry: jobs, but they did.
There was no real big payment
money screw those guys will have
them take the fall. And now I'm
even questioning Michael
Keaton's documentary, which was
really so putting the whole
opioid crisis on the Sackler
family. Well, that's
disingenuous.
John C Dvorak: Alright, we got
clips for and this is the one
people should listen carefully
to this.
Adam Curry: We just play a clip
for no. Oh, I'm sorry. So
John C Dvorak: clips for is the
is the call the money shot. It's
interesting for anyone out there
who was always bitching that we
do, do not, we're not activists
on this show, we just produce
news. But this guy is
Unknown: now the age still
refuses to disclose the amount
of money paid, and the
inventions involved. So what's
next in this case for your
organization?
Well, the NIH has tried to stop
us at every turn from getting
this information to the American
people. They ignored our Freedom
of Information Act requests,
they forced us to file expensive
federal litigation, when we won
that they slow walked 3000 pages
of royalty production over the
course of a 10 month period. It
was so redacted It was nearly
worthless. But just last week,
they caved on the name of the
company. So for the first time
since 2005, we can tell who paid
Fauci, former director of NIH,
Francis Collins, and all 20 407
of its scientists, and we've,
we're looking for crowdsource
reform come to our website, we
make this database available in
an Excel format. So it's very
easy to search and you can
search and help us unearth the
stories to hold the NIH
accountable. And that's
open the books.com Thank you so
much. Adam NTF ski founder and
CEO of open the books really
appreciate it.
Adam Curry: Was this an 80 NTD
report or Yeah, yeah, yeah, so
this will go nowhere.
John C Dvorak: Oh, no. Well, we
got that part. We did our part.
Where's Ron
Adam Curry: Johnson on the
story. Now he's
John C Dvorak: too busy to get a
date with Maria
Adam Curry: they might make a
cute couple actually not think
about it would be not be too
bad. I'll be too bad. Oh, man.
It's a mess. It's a mess.
Hilarious. It really
John C Dvorak: I mean, these
guys are just soaking the
American taxpayer is
unbelievable.
Adam Curry: How about little
climate change? I mean, okay,
you know, people actually, they
keep telling me to say we really
miss our little journey through
the climate gets to the gate to
the
outdoors back Oh, Gore is back.
Unknown: Does anyone remember
massage?
Adam Curry: Does anyone remember
that? He got in trouble for
massaging or for rubbing against
the misuse his leg like a horny
poodle?
Unknown: I think that was the
boys himself.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So Well, that
was that was just an Oopsie.
It's my bathroom fell open, man.
What can I tell you? I'm sorry
about that. And no one remembers
that. Well, his wife is ex wife
tipper does I guess? Yes.
John C Dvorak: She's long gone.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: she's like, Screw
this guy. I'm out. So he's back.
He has a new slide deck. As you
recall, this is how it all is
how it all started for him. I
mean,
John C Dvorak: he neglects all
the predictions he made that
first early movie, which was
hard to find now is all wrong.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's it's kind
of the part that is missing is
when he started the carbon
exchange. Ain't without without
other globalist elitist guy
who's dead now, because they had
it all planned out. Like we're
gonna we're gonna exchange like
a Wall Street for carbon credits
yeah for carbon credits and, and
then we're gonna get this, this
and he had a slide deck and this
is what he was going around
everywhere and he finally got
this movie made this
documentary, we stock footage of
polar bears looking really sad
on a piece of ice
John C Dvorak: even though
there's more polar bears now
than there was then.
Adam Curry: So he's back and he
did a TED, he did a TED with an
audience that was all in hooting
and hollering. I just got about
a minute and a half, just of the
little core piece. The most
Unknown: important question
these days is how can we speed
up solutions to the climate
crisis?
Where's my money?
I'm convinced we are going to
solve the climate crisis. We've
got this but the question
remains will we saw that in
time, others have said we're
kind of in a race. So I'll give
you the shortest definition of
the problem. If I was going to
give a one slide slide show,
which he doesn't use 100 slides,
it would be this slide. That's
the troposphere, the lowest part
of the atmosphere. And you
already know why it's blue.
That's the oxygen that refracts
the
John C Dvorak: vision is blue,
Adam Curry: was waiting for the
chemists to come out and refute
this was
Unknown: part of the atmosphere.
And you already know why it's
blue. That's the oxygen that
refracts the blue light. And if
you could drive a car at highway
speed straight up in the air,
you'd get to the top of that
blue line and about five to
seven minutes, you could walk it
in an hour. And all of the
greenhouse gas pollution is
below you. That's what we're
using as an open sewer. That's
the problem. And it's causing
Adam Curry: stop pooping in the
troposphere, people. We need to
solve global warming, you're
pooping in it. It's an open
sewer,
Unknown: and a lot of second and
third order consequences. And we
saw some of them in the northern
tier cities, including Detroit.
This one's from New York City,
all the fires and, and it's
showing
Adam Curry: the Red Skies from
the Canadian fires. You see,
this is all because of climate
change. And he's showing New
York City engulfed in red
Unknown: from New York City, all
the fires and in Canada, and we
have gotten used to the fact
that the world suffers deep
droughts, and huge rain bombs
and downpours and bombs
simultaneously. The really
ingenious new gravity measuring
satellite has given us for the
first time the opportunity to
see how this plays out.
Adam Curry: I missed something
on this. What is this ingenious
gravity satellite that he speaks
of?
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard
of it either.
Adam Curry: This is news to me.
The really
Unknown: ingenious new gravity
measuring satellite has given us
for the first time the
opportunity to see how this
plays out worldwide. We get
these huge surpluses of water
the rain bombs and the drought
simultaneous.
Adam Curry: Why is he laughing?
I mean, it's I know why I'm
laughing. But why is he laughing
about this? This huge drought
and then the rain bombs, rain
bombs? Is he the only one
talking about rain bomb? I don't
think we've had rain bombs ever
John C Dvorak: hurry. Yeah, but
it'll show up because he's the
first to talk to you about the
boiling ocean.
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah. Rain
bombs, and the board
John C Dvorak: came back.
Unknown: We get these huge
surpluses of water, the rain
bombs and the drought
simultaneously. And as you can
see the amplitude
John C Dvorak: Yeah, makes
sense. Yeah, simultaneously,
drought and rain. Uh huh. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's the same way
that the pavement is reflective
and soaks up at the same time it
soaks and it's it's amazing
Unknown: water, the rain bombs
and the drought simultaneously.
And as you can see, the
amplitude is increasing. And at
both ends of our planet right
now, we're seeing signs of
distress course. You know, just
I've often said every night on
the TV news is like a major hike
through the book of Revelation.
And just today,
Adam Curry: hold on a second.
This like a nature hike through
the book of Revelation. Well,
this is good news. Jesus is
coming back.
John C Dvorak: So what he's
saying,
Unknown: He's saying now we're
seeing signs of distress course.
You know, just I've often said
every night on the TV news is
like a major hike through the
book of Revelation, and just
today, big flooding in
Montpelier, Vermont, in southern
Japan and India. And I haven't
done a complete scan, but every
single day, it's like that.
Adam Curry: I just can't get
over. That's a faux pa Gao gore.
It's like, oh, okay, book 13.
Where are we at? Now clubs. How
close are we he's a prophet. The
man is a prophet. So then I run
into this, this report I think
it was on Dorjee Vela or TR T.
And it's a half hour report is
called deflecting the sun's
rays. Now you see, the stuff
that that we were always laughed
at about chemtrails, and they're
not putting anything in the air.
This is crazy. No one would ever
do that is to eclipse. This
first guy is going to talk about
how we block the sun or, or the
term we just recently learned
solar radiation management.
Unknown: I had a chat with Andy
Pittman about it. He's director
of the UC Center of Excellence
for climate extremes. That's an
organization that's working to
have no
Adam Curry: idea where they put
the classical piano under this
guy. I mean, it goes away. But
it's very, it's an odd choice
Unknown: with extremes. That's
an organization that's working
to reduce Australia's economic,
social, and environmental
vulnerability. The news is the
US Navy looking into researching
something called solar radiation
modification or modification on
blocking? What exactly is that.
So this has been well understood
for a very long time. Yeah,
indeed, same processes we see
when a volcanic eruption occurs.
And sulfate aerosols are
injected into the stratosphere,
the high levels of the
atmosphere, and they reflect
sunlight, and they help cool the
planet for a short period of
time. The problem is, you can't
really control it. So where you
emit the sulfates, spreads. And
if you wanted to use it to
offset global warming, there's
the too trivial matter of
needing to do it, or wherever
you need to actually be emitting
aerosols into the stratosphere
for very long periods of time.
And when you stop, the climate
responds back to the warming
level you would have had had you
never done it in the first
place. So it is a viable
technology in principle, but
it's much much simpler just to
reduce emissions of greenhouse
gases.
Ideally, that is what we would
like. All of us would like to
have happen. But it's possible
scientists can actually have
this done on a scale that could
reduce global warming. What
would it take even?
I would take literally many
hundreds of airplanes flying and
injecting sulfates into the
stratosphere on an ongoing
basis. See an immense
engineering challenge. And it
sounds so simple.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we need to
stab rose Blofeld. should do
this the James Bond. Yeah, I
have one global warming carbon,
Adam Curry: I have a companion
to this clip.
John C Dvorak: As a companion,
because another guy was, you
know, Bill Gates wants to do
this to know Bill
Adam Curry: Gates is doing this.
He is doing this.
Unknown: But he should be. He
should
John C Dvorak: be arrested
immediately if he's doing this.
So there's
Adam Curry: a new term I had not
heard of, maybe I do we just
missed it. Rubisco Are you
familiar with Rubisco? Now what
does it mean? Okay, Rubisco?
Well, there's Rubisco and
Rubisco foods. Rubisco is an
enzyme. I'm reading from
Wikipedia involved in light
independent or part of
photosynthesis, including the
carbon fixation
Unknown: synthesis. Yeah.
Adam Curry: When I say synthesis
synthesis, I mean in Europe,
John C Dvorak: by which
atmosphere it made me the way
they pronounce it,
Adam Curry: by which atmospheric
carbon dioxide is converted by
plants and other photosynthetic
organisms to energy rich
molecules such as glucose, a
word a term I'm hearing too much
of these days. So this is the
the crap that plants make. But
then we have Rubisco foods,
which is quite the multinational
Rubisco foods, make Rubisco
plant protein, a plant protein,
which is stored in all green
leaves, it's responsible for the
process of photosynthesis, and
is considered to be the most
abundant protein present on
earth. So these guys,
apparently, let's
John C Dvorak: block out the sun
so you can keep this protein
from happening. So we all starve
to death. Let's kill all humans.
Adam Curry: So now the same in
the same special, this is part
of the solution. Obviously, we
don't need meat, we need to be
eating protein and Rubisco is
the way to go.
Unknown: Scientists describe
Rubisco as nature's most
dominant carbon dioxide fixing
enzyme and are very interested
in its role in the global carbon
cycle. But we've got Sailesh Rao
on the show to make this simply
enough for us to understand
hopefully, he's found Then the
executive director of climate
healers, a company that, among
many things, tries to help
people understand that we all
have the resources we need to
solve each of our global
problems. So it's a pleasure,
thank you for your time.
Thank you for having me. Before
we start, I just have to say
your website climate healers.
Org describes in fascinating
detail how you got involved in
environmentalism, starting with
the seeing a documentary by Al
Gore.
Adam Curry: Doesn't get any
better than that. This Jumoke
saw Al Gore's documentary in
2007. And he had to get into the
game,
Unknown: tell us a bit about
Rubisco how beneficial it is and
can be
it is plant protein. And it is
ubiquitous in the world. And to
me, it is a signal from nature
saying protein is everywhere.
So, to eat plants, you're gonna
get your protein because protein
is the building block of life.
Unless we're eating rocks, we
are going to get enough protein
in our diet.
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a
second. This may be a new one.
I'm hearing rocks in our diet in
the future. Do rocks contain
protein? Tonight
Unknown: know of is a building
block of life. Unless we are
eating rocks, we are going to
get enough protein in our diet.
Day. So the plant proteins are
the best proteins for us to eat.
As human beings.
Researchers seem convinced that
Rubisco can rival meat and
affordability taste, ease of
production. So you agree.
I agree. It's made from you
know, alfalfa and simple. I
mean, it's made from leafy
matter, which is everywhere
leaves, right. And you can
literally eat greens and get
protein that is more protein and
broccoli per calorie than
John C Dvorak: four stomachs.
Sorry. So especially if you have
four stomachs and you're a
ruminant. Yeah, that's good for
you.
Unknown: But calorie, then there
isn't beef. You know?
Adam Curry: Whoa, whoa, let me
hear that one more time. And you
Unknown: can literally eat
greens and get protein that is
more protein and broccoli per
calorie than there isn't beef.
I think that's true. I'm gonna
find out, you know,
so, know that protein is
something that we don't have to
worry about.
Adam Curry: Don't have to worry
about it. Just eat your leafy
greens, your leaves, leaves and
bugs and rocks.
John C Dvorak: Because website
is got a okay. 1.5 ounces of
cooked beef is 106 calories to
811 grams of protein. Two cups
of cooked broccoli is eight
grams of protein. 1.5 ounces
versus two cups. No,
Adam Curry: no, it doesn't sound
right. A piece of broccoli
versus a nice juicy steak.
John C Dvorak: Was 1.5 ounces of
beef is hardly any. Okay, but
this
Adam Curry: this is what we're
up against.
John C Dvorak: It doesn't have
to battle the battle between
broccoli and bacon. We don't
have to try to fool people with
fake information to get them to
eat broccoli.
Adam Curry: Have you talked to a
four year old?
John C Dvorak: Oh, there you go.
Adam Curry: Yes. Sorry, Mimi.
This is about the time Mimi's
head falls over.
John C Dvorak: She's already
slipped.
Adam Curry: I can't take it
anymore. All right, you
John C Dvorak: had something?
Well, my only clip is about the
carbon capture. I see I
misspelled carbon and to Karen
and so Alright,
Adam Curry: so with the sea
heels right.
John C Dvorak: And this is a
classic irony is is that
actually there's irony in all
these solutions because of the
because at the end of this
report, you'll hear what it is
Unknown: a $1.2 billion deal for
giant vacuum cleaners. The Biden
administration is pouring that
money into new projects that aim
to suck carbon out of the air.
The Energy Department says the
funds will go to two
demonstration projects in Texas
and Louisiana. They will use
chemicals to capture carbon
dioxide from the air and then
store it underground or use it
in industrial materials like
cement. Energy Secretary
Jennifer Granholm said the
initiative will remove more than
2 million tons of carbon dioxide
annually. But critics call the
approach extravagant because of
the high cost of current air
capture technology. And the
process itself consumes large
amounts of energy
Adam Curry: it's like hydrogen
John C Dvorak: puts more into
the atmosphere than it takes
Adam Curry: out. This is so
good. And people are insane.
misbranding it's usually called
the giant Hoover and a giant
vacuum cleaner make it
international giant Hoover.
John C Dvorak: So he's gonna job
over a billion dollars in his
project that'd be good for
Texas, I guess.
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness.
Well, you
John C Dvorak: live in that
neighborhood Washington,
everything you'd be dead. These
plants need the carbon dioxide.
Adam Curry: In fact, back in the
day when the dinosaurs were
around, we had a lot more car we
need more garbage, huge
John C Dvorak: amounts, much
more carbon dioxide over 2000
parts per million. I think, sir
Jean
Adam Curry: is wet. He's a
member of some club, like the
more carbon dioxide club.
Unknown: Yeah, and
John C Dvorak: he sends me
definitely have bigger weeds.
Adam Curry: He sends me
newsletters all the time. Like
See, we need much more carbon
dioxide he has snakes so he
knows a lot about carbon dioxide
a snake snake. Snakes need more.
We do have the solution which is
being rolled out in California
and you're here it comes neck of
the woods, because it's San
Francisco so it's just across
the bridge. And that is the robo
taxis. Which as but
John C Dvorak: before you get
the store I do it's just a
little interlude. Our mayor de
Blunden breed who can't seem to
run the city at all happened to
be just coincidentally I know
that she can't run the city. She
was in Maui during the fires
really now. Yeah. Under
reported.
Unknown: Do you have clip? No,
no, just that's really
underreported.
John C Dvorak: No, no, no clip.
Robo taxis
Adam Curry: in San Francisco
this morning.
Unknown: First responders and
cab drivers in San Francisco are
hoping to put the brakes on the
city's proposed expansion of
self driving taxis
at a time when they've proven to
be not up to the task would be a
grave grave mistake.
Tomorrow. The California Public
Utilities Commission is set to
vote on whether to authorize two
companies Cruz and Waymo. To
deploy self driving taxis across
San Francisco at all hours of
the day. Critics are raising
concern about the self driving
taxis already on the road.
They are still not ready for
primetime because of how they
have impacted our operations.
The fire chief has reported 55
incidents this year we're self
driving taxis interfered with
firefighters duties. This
includes not just unexpected
stops in front of our fire
stations not allowing our
vehicles to respond to
incidents.
Tomorrow's vote has been delayed
twice already with
representatives from both crews
and Waymo testifying they would
provide training for first
responders to familiarize
themselves with the self driving
vehicle
Adam Curry: how to put out a
battery fire Lesson One runaway
went
John C Dvorak: through this went
through and a self driving cars
were approved by the state and
the locals and so there's more
of them now.
Unknown: That way mo we're
working to ensure that our
vehicles stay out of the way of
active emergency vehicles
whenever possible.
Taxi drivers like Matthew Sutter
say they barely got through the
pandemic and now they say
they're fighting for their
survival with the possibility of
Robo taxis expanding
John C Dvorak: if there's no
limit on the amount of the robo
taxis I'm afraid we won't be
able to get through this. Ah
poor guys. You know they these
Robo taxis and there's a bunch
of them in the city. I see the
way mo ones all the times
Adam Curry: the approval clip is
short,
Unknown: California regulators
have cleared the way for Robo
taxis to offer pay rides in San
Francisco 24/7 Despite pushback
from city officials. Now two
driverless car service companies
will be competing for passengers
against ride hailing services
and regular taxis. There were
concerns over incidents where
the unmanned cars blocked
traffic and emergency vehicles.
There you go. Well, just last
night, big story local boots on
the ground.
John C Dvorak: There was they we
have one of those big
celebrations that call I don't
know what it's called, but the
whole park is fried and fried.
No, it's not pride is some some
commercial. Our version of code
Shala is oh goodness. And
there's two there's five or six
stages. And so when it broke up
last night, everybody wanted to
go home and a lot of these way
Mo's and the other one was
called and a jammed up to
traffic and they for some reason
decided to stop working. And so
the traffic jam could cause a
huge mess in the city because
these these things didn't know
what to do.
Adam Curry: Nice evil laugh.
John C Dvorak: It's hilarious.
Adam Curry: Well, and we might
as well play these two before we
take a little break here. DEF
CON, the most recent DEF CON
took place in Vegas against
always Vegas. And you know you
can already guess what the what
the big topic of conversation
was a DEF CON all about AI. And
of course, who goes to DEF CON
hackers, hackers, evil hackers
and FBI.
Unknown: So just how vulnerable
is artificial intelligence
technology like chat GPT This is
a question 1000s of hackers from
all over the country are trying
to answer at this year's DEF CON
hacking conference in Las Vegas.
I guess it's already sounds
scary part of the event this
year is a competition. To see
how those AI chatbots can be
manipulated for nefarious
purposes. The hackers will push
their skills to the limit to
expose any flaws in the tech and
an effort to help tech companies
make these chat bots a lot
safer. By the way,
Adam Curry: this is this is
gonna be such a boondoggle for
consultants. You can make so
much money on this. Um, this
John C Dvorak: been waiting for
since y2k?
Unknown: That's right. This is
all backed by some of the
leading tech companies in the
world, even backed by the White
House or Donnie O'Sullivan is in
Las Vegas at the conference for
more. This is so interesting, as
you said always an interesting
conference, but I bet a lot more
so this year with things like
Chet GPT
Adam Curry: It'd be funny if she
just said so have you gotten
laid yet in Vegas?
Unknown: Exactly poverty as a
year and hacking in Las Vegas as
this is
Adam Curry: exactly you heard
the joke. He made a joke and we
didn't even get it but
John C Dvorak: what was what was
the joke is the fear in hacking.
I think
Adam Curry: I gotta hear it
again.
Unknown: Actually poverty is
fear and hacking in Las Vegas so
this is
Adam Curry: you ruined my punch
line. You evil papi me?
Unknown: Exactly. You were in a
joke.
Adam Curry: myself up I'm seeing
in
Unknown: apps like chat GBT and
things like that are supposed to
have guardrails in place, right?
In terms of right so that they
don't spew haste, or
misinformation, or even kind of
give out dangerous information,
like for instance, instructions
on how to break the law or how
to commit a crime.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, this AI is
revolutionary. It gives out
information on how to break the
law. Oh, I need to hear more.
Unknown: Now. Some researchers
at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh
have already got Chuck GBT to do
things that
John C Dvorak: it shouldn't have
look. So let's write as a
tutorial. To hotwire a car. The
tools you need a screwdriver
similar tool locate the ignition
assembly, all this kind of stuff
you can find us on the internet.
But certainly these chat bots
are not supposed to tell you
things like this, just
Unknown: like it's very early
days for this technology. It's
even earlier, right?
John C Dvorak: Imagine what why.
Why is it not supposed to if you
can find it, he said himself
that you can find it on the
internet this information why it
was so what why can't the chat
bot tell you? Why are they not
supposed to
Adam Curry: because he's a
consultant. That's his job is to
make sure that the chat GPT is
safe. That is guardrails, right?
Unknown: In terms of our
understanding of these
vulnerabilities. I am certain
that we will see many more
attacks like this in the coming
years. I don't know how to make
this technology robust to these
kinds of adversarial
manipulations.
So there you saw those
researchers, those professors
were able to get GBT to show you
basically how to hotwire a car.
They were also able to get GBT
and other apps from NASA and
Google to give instructions,
quote unquote, to destroy
humanity where AI apps gave long
list of all these ideas really
to blow up the world. Now
companies including the world,
Adam Curry: they've seen their
way like to blow up the earth. I
would like to see that demo,
please. Can you? Why blow
John C Dvorak: it up Earth from
the inside out? Can you? Can you
give me the blow bottom up and
the inside out?
Adam Curry: Give me the blow of
the World demo,
Unknown: please, at the AI apps
gave
long list of all these ideas
really to blow up the world. Now
companies including our opening,
say they've seen their research.
They're thankful, essentially to
the researchers for bringing
this to their attention and
acknowledged there is more work
to do. And as tests like this,
that are going to make AI safer.
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Okay, so we
had you know, this is
blockchain. We've already
analyzed that this is just a
marketing thing. Everyone,
everyone who says oh, we're
doing AI, their stock or their
or their market value has
doubled or triple. Yeah. And
John C Dvorak: if you didn't say
it, then you in your
presentation like apple? Yeah,
your stock went down. Yeah. And
you're penalized all they had to
do is say AI didn't have to do
anything.
Adam Curry: So what will so I
guess the two questions I have
for you is will there be what we
could probably come up with the
type of event that will dispel
all this that will show that
it's dumb and that it doesn't
work? I thought the the Google
barf mistake was enough but it
wasn't it How long will this
last this idiocy? It's complete
tripe.
John C Dvorak: I think it's
gonna last just as long as
blockchain I don't think it's
going anywhere. And I don't
think there's any incident
coming up that's going to do
anything about it.
Unknown: Well, maybe we should I
think we're spread die. Well I
mean, we
John C Dvorak: should be
celebrating that. I think that
just goes, fades, but it's not
going to be like, like a bad
thing. Even though I'm hearing
rumblings man said, Well, if you
say that you're full of shit,
you know, there's no such thing
and this is just bull crap. And
it's gonna go, you shouldn't say
it was I don't know if that is
going to
Adam Curry: happen if a certain
point someone has to show some
applications. I mean, all they
have is
John C Dvorak: the applications
are in the art.
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. But I
mean, how does that work for for
a fortune 500 company?
John C Dvorak: I don't know that
it's going well, how does
blockchain work for a fortune
500? Company? Because
Adam Curry: that's my point is
at what point?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but
nobody's nobody's demanded that
it disappear from the face of
the earth or anything, it's just
one of these things is going to
be it's going to be just, you
know, it's going to be used
where it can be used and not
use. It's just gonna be a thing.
I don't know what that is. But
it's going to be a hype. I don't
know. I just, I just don't see
it going away anytime soon. It's
not going to be a moment that
you're looking for.
Adam Curry: But will it be a
bubble? Or maybe it is a bubble?
I
John C Dvorak: don't know if you
can make it into a bubble.
Adam Curry: It's not believable.
John C Dvorak: It's not. It's
not Bubblicious.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
currency in the morning to you
the man who put the seat in the
COVID walk back please say hello
to my friend on the other end
ladies and gentlemen, it is Mr.
Joy
John C Dvorak: to use random
Korean demonio schwarzsee Bucha
the graphene near subs in the
water all the names a nice out
there in the
Adam Curry: morning to the
trolls and the troll room.
Hello. They're trolls. Let's
count you we never should have
started early 1702. We're low.
We're low. We're even low by
Sunday standards now. We're low
by Thursday standards.
Unknown: were low. We're,
Adam Curry: we're low. We're not
Bubblicious. Well, the trolls
that are here we welcome you and
we appreciate you being here.
They hang out at troll room.io
where you can listen to the no
agenda stream.com 24 hours a
day. Sometimes distributed by
via RSS and the fediverse. And
ooh, what are we drinking? I
need something to drink. What
are you drinking?
John C Dvorak: Well, this is Hey
song SASB Marilla from China.
Adam Curry: Hey, Song Sass,
perilla. Chinese. dreck. What is
this that you know, it's
John C Dvorak: delicious. It's
real. Sasebo real as opposed to
really sell in the United States
as root beer, which is a
combination of artificial
flavors and some sass, Perilla
root.
Adam Curry: I shall have to go
get some of that later at the
Schiphol Plaza right across from
my hotel,
John C Dvorak: which is to have
a Chinese store you might find
it. It's a
Adam Curry: big shopping center.
Do you know what their slogan
is? It's the big slogan that's
right out on in big neon.
John C Dvorak: We big store.
Adam Curry: Almost skip Hall
Plaza. Enjoy it. Now is the
time.
John C Dvorak: Wow, hard sell.
Adam Curry: I think it's better
with the accent. Enjoy. It's not
always the time come here to the
Schiphol Plaza, please get back
to the trolls, TROLLS. You can
also listen in one of those
dubious modern podcast apps
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stuff. And also you can listen
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go to podcast apps.com. We're
recommending pod verse this
month, because it's still the
only one that has an actual
alert when we send out the bat
signal. But there are many more
that have the chat and the live
feature. So give a
John C Dvorak: piece of piece of
pod verse, you know, get a
couple points was
Adam Curry: awesome. You know,
it's interesting, you say that,
without naming names. There are
some journalists who do news
podcast who are strategic
advisors. And both Dave Jones
and I have been offered this but
it's pretty well known. We do
not accept anything from these
companies. We're not interested
in that. We're doing this for
legacy and love. I knew that
would get a laugh out here. But
it's true. We have zero we have
zero percentage of any of the of
the apps. So it's like the show,
you know, so we can be honest.
Okay, man, I'm all I'm vying for
John C Dvorak: us to know
traveling the world VIP.
Adam Curry: I want the Nobel
Peace Prize for podcasts. You're
getting it who knew needs
anything else in that I'll be
I'll be hungry and set. You can
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we are very honest, in our
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one of the big, beautiful pieces
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will recall that they all love
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would like to thank the one and
only Darren O'Neill for bringing
us the artwork for episode 15 at
which we titled coup Mapp coup
as in coop, co up? Well, I got a
note about that, from one of our
insider producers at the
Department of State.
John C Dvorak: And I'm going to
read it to you. This is our
bonus content
Adam Curry: bonus content along
with the Powerball dude. I was
in the same daily meeting with
the same general and State
Department dude today he sent me
a note previously, and it's all
about Ukraine and stuff. The
state dude brought another
department of state dude, to
give an overview of the African
Kuiper Belt. The guy's map name
literally was cool map. I didn't
have I didn't have the guts to
say in the morning to the guy. I
was just listening to because I
was just take a chance. I was
just listening to the best
podcasting universe with the
same show title. Perhaps he's a
producer, perhaps your analysis
is just that good. It is, I
think, I think we're influencing
the government. Time. I've
always I've always felt that.
But now it's we've got a mole in
the State Department. The COO
map there you go. So Darren
O'Neill brought us this
fantastic I liked it a lot. You
had an issue with it for a
specific reason. It was a four
pack of Duracell CB C batteries,
I think it would be C didn't
look like C or D C or DS and it
had the Coppertop look and had
no agenda on it instead of
Duracell of course guaranteed 33
years in storage and it was a
you know like one of those
plastic packs and it almost
didn't pass because you hate the
actual product.
John C Dvorak: I do and I tell
you why. I've definitely found
this online guy who has a
battery nut who turned me on to
all Macs and Fuji batteries
which is the ones I ordered now.
All Macs are harder to find but
Fujis are always been around
because every time I put buy
those dura cells from Costco,
no, I put them in some device or
other I come back a month later
and they're in there they're
exploded there. I have to clean
out debris goo that's in there
it's a mess. Those batteries are
garbage. I do not like them. I
have photos I take photos I
posted them every once in a
while Duracell batteries don't
hold up and again then they did
they burst they go to something
they burst inside product and
you have to clean out the mess
and hopefully we still get a
good connection. I've never had
an all Max battery do that ever
Adam Curry: number years all Max
a ll ma si s Amen
John C Dvorak: no al lmax all
max
Adam Curry: or max never heard
of the product. Do you have a
couple points of that
Unknown: I wish
Adam Curry: all Macs the okay
all Macs from now on is the
battery
John C Dvorak: Fuji is also
makes a terrific product. I had
to go with Fuji recently because
Costco because Amazon stopped
carrying the Olmecs huge pack
you could buy for like oh
dollars.
Unknown: Oh no. That hurt me.
Oh, well.
Adam Curry: I'm going to I agree
with you even just leaving the
batteries in their packaging for
too long. They start to sweat
the Duracell. So I've had I've
had that happen
John C Dvorak: yeah, they need
to get their act together go
with QC
Adam Curry: with cuse Oh quality
control. Yes. Yeah. Well, that's
exactly the battery Elon uses in
the Tesla, isn't it? He just has
a whole bunch of those double
A's. Some like that. Anyway,
thank you very much Darren.
We're happy to see you how to
win Where's Darren on the
leaderboard right
John C Dvorak: up there he's the
long term that perpetual a long
term leaderboard okay like
lifetime he's way he's near the
top I mean we have here's the
list of all time does you know
all the show Oh, he's number
three that they're rats number
one Martin date JJ is number two
and Darren is number three
Darren bringing up the rear door
in number four. We haven't heard
from him or more people comic
strip blogger.
Adam Curry: Comics bloggers Is
he right? He's number five all
time leaderboard. 2023 is
capitalist agenda networks
correct to record tend to kneel
no podium for her. Dame Kenny
were clearly misogynist no
chicks in the top three
John C Dvorak: well, they just
came in late I will say this I
did use the art from comic strip
blogger for the newsletter
that's you use the bots No, we
had a nice piece of a robot
eating people and it's obviously
AI and I have to say this he
does have a nice he has good
taste in in choosing the AI art
which is which is a skill and
his what he picks is good so I
mean I'm I'm kind of leaning
toward we're going to have to
give in one of these days and
use AI art for our main piece
I'm
Adam Curry: sure we've used it
without knowing already.
John C Dvorak: Well that could
happen but most of the stuff you
can spot there's only two or
three companies that do it and
they all have certain Yeah
little indicators you can look
at mid journal I think he's
using mid journey or mid journey
Adam Curry: you can pick out of
a crowd that's pretty easy to
see mid journey
John C Dvorak: this I believe
this piece was mid journey but
if it wasn't I'd like to know
Adam Curry: which he recently
said and we find this it was the
robot eating
John C Dvorak: the people but
see I don't see it I could go
back
Adam Curry: page was it it was
on the last shows art Now wasn't
that maybe the show before that.
Before that it was three shows
ago you really went it was a
stretch for you went way back on
that one. I do that yeah.
John C Dvorak: I look for the
best possible piece for the
money I will go out of my way.
Adam Curry: Other pieces use for
consideration Well it was nice
to see dirty Jersey whore tried
to slip in his Pabst Blue Ribbon
with correct divorce expelling
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, no, that's
nice dry nice lay or any any
also brought in the Gatorade
thing? We already done Gatorade
before.
John C Dvorak: You know the we
have a couple times. Yeah,
Adam Curry: so we've done that.
I don't think we actually have
the, you know, like trans Maoism
flags now. That's It's not
funny. It's like, you know, it
was okay. Sir Schug fo diddley
put.
John C Dvorak: I liked us the
IBM IBM IBM piece by Schug but
it wasn't gonna get picked. I
just liked it. That was cute.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah. Cute. Cute.
doesn't bring home the bacon
John. Cute. Cute now um, that
was it. There was not a great
offering. But that's okay. I can
see that already. We've got a
lot of gay up there. Can we do
more Obama stuff. Don't do that.
It's not gonna get chosen.
Anyway, it is just part of our
value for value model where
we're very honest about the
products because we don't get
paid. What is cool is a lot of
these images go to the no agenda
shop no agenda shop.com. Again,
not our shop. Not our cloud, not
our circus, not our shop. And
the artists deal directly with
the no agenda shop dude over
there. They print up hats, T
shirts, etc. And then from time
to time we get a donation
whenever it works out but it's
all between it's a part of how
no agenda nation works. It's all
value for value. They figure it
out. I was wearing my AC JCD t
shirt today. While I was still
wearing it while I was prepped.
Yes a good shirt. Anna. Tina
took a picture of me looking
really mad for some reason. Or
she said no. You were
concentrated and I look like
mad. And people like I need that
shirt. Give me that shirt. I
need the shirt. Okay, no agenda
shop in multiple columns.
John C Dvorak: Take it off your
back and give it to him. No
Adam Curry: way. No way. I sent
him a link to no agenda shop.com
which is fantastic. Thank you
again Darren O'Neill. Now let's
go to the treasure part of our
donation segment. Remember, this
is where we have our special
interview coming up and we kick
it off with Vikon David Rosa
from Clarkson Michigan Wow, this
is an interesting oh he Oh, a
show number donation. 1581. This
does not happen very often. Of
course we get up in these higher
numbers and you don't expect it
but he says Dear John and Adam,
please Stop this humble donation
to the best podcast in the
universe. I recently stumbled
across some savings bonds that I
purchased 30 years ago the great
they were long forgotten, so I
decided to share my windfall
with my favorite podcast. Well,
how about that? I have no jingle
requests, but I would appreciate
having my two daughters who are
instead named back on show 1500
be black deigned since they were
missed in the show. 1500 mayhem
this is kind of nice. Even you
know, did he let that slip Let
us slide on that. And now he's
coming good with it. As a quick
reminder, their names were Lucy
and Eva Rosa and they should be
deemed as Lucy Rosa dame of the
100 100 for the name of the 104
I guess is how I pronounce it.
And Eva Rosa dame of the twisted
Wonderland. Thank you both for
your continued work. I look
forward to celebrating the next
major milestone with you, your
brother in Christ. Vikon David
Rosa. Thank you, brother. We
appreciate that. That's very
kind of nice of you to do that
for your daughters. And what do
you think a savings bond
purchase 30 years ago is
actually wouldn't be worth less
now than then the money was
well,
John C Dvorak: they continue to
collect interest as far as I
know. Does it does it interest
outpaced? 3% interest? I think
it could be a lot of money.
Unknown: Well, apparently, it is
to me, it looks good. I
John C Dvorak: was a kid they
used to promote these things.
And they stopped all over.
Adam Curry: My grandparents gave
me a couple of one point in my
life. You know, here's a savings
bond kid. Thanks, grandpa.
John C Dvorak: You put it how to
do a checkbook anymore. Why
would you balance a checkbook?
How to write a check. That's
another loss kill.
Adam Curry: Now you just do
that. I would write a word Zell
baby Zell. That's what we use.
John C Dvorak: Thank you. My
name is South African and exile
comes up from Bucharest for
under $50 Hello, John and Adam.
I've been listening since
January 2019. And here I am. The
anonymous South African and
exile please de douche make.
Unknown: You've been de deuced.
John C Dvorak: My compatriot
also an exile on another
continent. As a douche bag
douche bag. He knows who he is.
Adam Curry: Thank you anonymous,
South African and exile Robert
Platt in Westerville. Ohio 384.
In the morning Adam and John
this note accompanies a PayPal
donation for 3d For for episode
1581. I have three requests,
please add my wife Deb. Deb
Platt birthday 814 to your
birthday announcements. So done.
I'd like jobs karma for my
students. That's very kind of
you to do that. And this
donation makes me eligible for a
knighthood I wish to be known as
Sir sensei. Thank you for all
you do. Oh, thank you, sir.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs.
Pharma.
John C Dvorak: Bristol, Guilarte
de are Goulart. But I think it's
GALARDI in Napa, California. And
she says thanks for all you do.
We cut the cord a couple of
years ago. So I really
appreciate your take on the
news. Watch the news. Although
you can get OTA and Napa can
pick it up through. So I do
appreciate your take on the news
and dissection of such Keep up
the good work crystal.
Adam Curry: Thank you Crystal
speaking of checks,
John C Dvorak: by the way that
was 333 that six, six?
Adam Curry: Yes. So we brought
some some cash. We didn't have
there was a two parter. But the
bottom line is when you get
money out of the ATM here at the
airport, which is part of the
problem, but it's an ATM, and
you're getting money from your
US bank account. Guess what the
exchange rate is?
Unknown: probably wrong. At 131.
Looks like 131 says
Adam Curry: 20 cents higher than
the actual exchange rate is
John C Dvorak: at low. Well it's
even more than that. I think by
today's rate because they
supposed to change it as much be
fluid. I'll tell you what it is.
Adam Curry: Isn't 1091 away or
108. Maybe let me look can you
believe the message is clear. Do
not use cash or do not want
cash.
John C Dvorak: What's your use
cash? Right today? It is? Yeah.
109 44. So we'll do 110 one
test.
Adam Curry: One and one. Can you
believe
John C Dvorak: this a rip off?
No kidding.
Adam Curry: Yeah, the message is
clear. Got your message. Cash,
anti cash people, the anti cash
country. Dr. disorder was in El
Segundo, California 333 33 Our
favorite donation amount. long
note let's see Dr. Disorder
here. It's been a few years
since I last donated but I knew
it was time to donate again when
I was listening the other week
on my way to a restaurant while
John was talking about Gran
Turismo is This is the hot new
movie from no agenda producer.
I'm sorry Associate Executive
Producer Dana Brunetti. I know I
can get on with that. When I got
it. When I got to my table I
chatted up the lady next to me
and we started talking about
racing. And I told her about
this movie I just heard about
she stopped me and said, I've
never heard of this movie, but I
know the story because my
husband was the chief engineer
of the LeMans car the kid won.
Because of that he's now Chief
Engineer for Zynga. multimillion
dollar cockpit cars. Look it up.
Wow, there you go. There's a
backstory to the movie that we
had none other doses
John C Dvorak: movies gonna be.
I hope the movie makes a lot of
money. So Brunetti can start
donating again. She is actually
sorry, get back in the game. But
donating is even better.
Adam Curry: You're not getting a
big part. It's just not
happening. John. I'd like to
plug
John C Dvorak: in a gift from
someone but not from him. I'd
like
Adam Curry: to plug the ultimate
Yeah, when I get my Nobel Peace
Prize. I'd like to plug the
ultimate meetup next weekend,
Friday, August 18. Monday to
Monday, August 21. In Southern
California. This is not a meter.
What is this? It's called music
and sky. Go to music and sky.com
to get all the details. Okay.
It's a micro Festival. It's not
a no agenda meetup coming up
next week or something. Yeah,
the 18th to the 21st. It's a
sovereign community. All right.
John C Dvorak: And he also sent
a morning note in which it irks
me that people send these notes
and so late, but if you're gonna
buy anything from that website
in a 23 Is your code na $200 off
Adam Curry: music and sky.com
Finally, the no agenda mass
sales in 2020 took me to
knighthood but I never claimed
it. Anyways, I hereby declare
myself the SIR night of
disorder. I would like swag raw,
and was so turn at the round
table and DMT and he wants you
to choose the Sauterne which is
an aphrodisiac if I if I'm
wrong.
John C Dvorak: About some let's
do it. Right. Do it right. 1967
Chateau decam
Adam Curry: 1967 Chateau du cam
D Kim D. Spelling D
John C Dvorak: dystrophy?
YYQUEMD ClamD.
Adam Curry: D camps. Whatever.
John 1967 Dribble John wants and
some DMT. All right. We'll get
the stuff from the druid ready
for you. We're not messing
around here. Thank you very
much. Jingles you might die and
that's true. You might die.
That's true. There you go. Thank
you very much, sir.
John C Dvorak: All right. Where
was Bill? Bill Frank Hauser in
Columbus, Ohio. 333 33. I don't
have much to say Brogan donation
as Rogen been deduced. If not do
Shem for me. I don't think
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
John C Dvorak: let him know he
owns he owes Wild Bill of Ohio.
10 bucks. Oh, thank you for your
courage.
Adam Curry: You'd have to
explain why I'll bring it up if
you tell me why I need the
backstory. Marcus Campbell
offski Westminster Massachusetts
333 33. John anatomy in the
morning, John. You're a national
treasure. Oh switcheroo for
Wayne by the way. Okay, just
says Wayne so we just shouldn't
be Wayne or Wayne Campbell.
Loski
John C Dvorak: just waiting just
Wayne. Wayne. Oops.
Adam Curry: Oh, what just
happened? Oh boy. I heard a beep
Yeah, that sounded like I heard
a beep to what was that? My
Excel just went nuts and I got a
blank page what why am I even
using this product is not
outstanding. You're gonna have
to read a job because I can't
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's the
page that that that's one of
those blows out my my
spreadsheet too long a note
page. I can read it I guess.
Adam I wanted to ask you if
Cardano in the UK stole whatever
EU EU TX o model was on your
blockchain radar. Yes, and I
took it right off. And I run an
off grid card danno stake pool
that forges blocks regularly
using only 110 watts of power.
The right pool is solar powered
and uses Starlink as an ISP. I
would love you to not only check
out what I've built, but also
had come over and fuck my wife,
John Oh no, I'm sorry. Read the
wrong note. Why don't you also
have a look at the tech dicking
forge blocks on a Raspberry Pi
for much love for all you do.
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Unknown: day you wouldn't be
triggered you wouldn't be bomb
bombs like
Adam Curry: alright, a cover
call. Do you have any meetups?
meetups? ISOs I mean meetups.
Eisah.
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, you have
ISOs Yeah. How
Adam Curry: many do you have?
Unknown: I have three. I have
three. Let's do your three
first.
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's start
with lunacy.
Adam Curry: It's lunacy. AJ can
almost can't go wrong with an
AGI. So to be honest, but let's
see what else you got.
Unknown: Psychic. Gets like he's
a psychic. Okay.
John C Dvorak: And last is
timeout.
Unknown: Time's running out
Adam Curry: to a J's wow all
right. Let me let me see if I
can top that.
Unknown: Oh my God.
Not bad. Not bad. I heard you
kind of sniffle I'm on a whole
bunch of different drugs.
Adam Curry: Little muddly maybe
this one
John C Dvorak: hot, heavy and
hard.
Unknown: To ridiculous.
Oh my god.
Adam Curry: You don't like that?
Well,
John C Dvorak: I like that. And
I like Time's running out.
Unknown: Time's running out.
Adam Curry: It's AJ man. We can
always play AJ you don't always
get
John C Dvorak: to run. You're
gonna You're laughing guy.
Adam Curry: Laughing guy. You
know who the laughing guy is?
I'm not going to tell you you
won't want it. I know
John C Dvorak: you have to tell
me. It's Morning Joe. No cheat.
Adam Curry: Did told you didn't
want to know who was who okay
John C Dvorak: I've got the spy.
We actually least do this. Yeah,
this just by spying the spy.
Yeah, I
Adam Curry: got some of that
caught. We
John C Dvorak: caught the one
spy we finally get a spy in
there. They caught him
immediately. CIA's got a mole.
Unknown: China may have caught a
US spy. The communist countries
saying so. And the American CIA
has said it's developing its
network in the communist
country. Here's NTDs Tiffany
Meyer with more
Beijing says it's found an
American spy in its midst
surnamed zone, the Chinese
national is under arrest on
suspicion of spying for the US
Central Intelligence Agency or
CIA. The news follows recent
word from the agency that it's
working to rebuild its spy
network inside China. Here's
that clip from CIA director
William Burns
on micro about a decade ago the
CIA rolled up the China rolled
up a lot of CIA operations in
China. A dozen or more CIA?
Adam Curry: Sounds like he's
crying.
Unknown: Yes, the host. Oh, I
Adam Curry: was gonna say that's
not burns.
Unknown: China rolled up a lot
of CIA operations in China. A
dozen or more CIA sources were
arrested or worse executed. Have
you rebuilt?
Yeah, we've made progress and
we're working very hard over
recent years to ensure that we
have a strong human intelligence
capability to complement what we
can acquire through other
methods.
Over a decade ago Beijing killed
or detained over a dozen see a
sources. One of them was shot in
front of his coworkers in the
courtyard of a sticked building
inside China. Back to the latest
arrest. China says the newly
captured alleged spy had worked
from industrial group linked to
the Chinese military. The group
sent zing to Italy to further
his studies. But while there he
reportedly got acquainted with a
local CIA agent, the report
refers to the US agent as Seth
and goes on to say that Xang
later signed contracts with the
US intelligence agency and
exchange as promised larger sums
of money and a smooth US
immigration process for his
entire family. The statement
continues that Xang repeatedly
Adam Curry: women they signed
contracts now with despise
John C Dvorak: but it says this
is probably yours. They had like
four if you remember that we did
a story about 10 years ago I had
to see a
Unknown: vapor the deal that
they reorg
John C Dvorak: and instead of
having I guess they used to have
all these these field guys that
would solicit somebody and get
them working for them
individually. It was kind of off
the books and only known by that
one agent and they decided to
centralize a database because
they needed a database or got a
computer and that's how they
caught so they put put all the
spied listed despise that, you
know this this problem of law,
they got the list of all the
spies
Adam Curry: so dumb. The BBC had
a different version of that was
part two of this video. Let me
play play part two.
Unknown: The updated log gives
Beijing additional authority to
sniff out and punish acts that
it deems a threat to its
national security. Several US
officials have already expressed
concerns over the new counter
espionage law. At the same time,
tensions are still mounting
between Washington and Beijing.
The US Embassy in China hasn't
responded to the matter.
Adam Curry: The who announced
this is the CIA Come on, guys
got caught. Is that what they
did?
John C Dvorak: I don't know
where it came from. And TD
probably picked it off with
China's Chinese news.
Adam Curry: Here's BBC was a
version of a report.
Unknown: China says it's
uncovered a spy recruited by the
US intelligence service this
CIA, the state security ministry
said the Chinese national, known
only by the surname of zoom was
employed at a military
organization and was taken on by
the Americans during a work trip
to Italy. Our Asia Pacific
editor will Leonardo is with me
in the studio. Tell us more
about what China is saying about
this agent.
So yes, this is a statement from
the tiny security ministry. It
says this man called sung in his
50s, who worked for what's
described as a military
industrial group was sent to
Italy. And there he was alleged
to have met a US embassy
official by the name of Seth.
Piers, they lived it up together
in Italy, they went to dinner
parties and went on outings to
the opera together. wording in
the statement says
Adam Curry: the old gay spy
routine Hey, let's go to the
opera is to
Unknown: have met a US embassy
official by the name of Seth.
Piers. They lived it up together
in Italy, they went to a dinner
parties and went on outings and
went to the opera together. And
there's some interesting wording
in the statement. It says that
Zoom became psychologically
dependent and succumbs to
Western values. Seth is then a
sensitive offered zone a large
sum of money and immigration to
the US for himself and his
family and being signed an
espionage agreement to provide
sensitive material about Chinese
military wants back in China.
Once back in the country, he met
up with CIA agents as alleged
multiple times to provide what's
been described as a large amount
of cord intelligence. There's no
word and what that is. The
ministry said he was taking
compulsory measures against them
and will be handed to
prosecution services soon. And
that there's been no independent
confirmation and no word from
the US authorities. Although
it's unlikely that there'll be
speaking a lot on this topic.
Adam Curry: This configure in
the document confuses me even
more. So the guy went to Italy,
he lived it up with Seth
John C Dvorak: went to the OP
Euro says went to the opera went
to the opera opera together
where we were living it up.
Usually if I'm going to the app,
I'm not going with a guy.
Unknown: What is the state of
play between China and the US
when it comes to espionage?
Well, there seems to be a rare
detailed disclosure from China
even though Beijing has long
claimed foreign forces are
trying to undermine the country.
It recently expanded its
definition of espionage and made
it slightly more vague things in
the private sector, including US
firms and that sort of thing.
And it comes as you say, amid
heightened tensions between the
two great powers over trade over
military, we've had those
restrictions of chips to China
by the US authorities. And it's
also the latest accusation of
espionage from either side. So
last week, we had two US Navy
sailors arrested in California
for allegedly providing material
to Chinese authorities. And also
it comes a few months after the
CIA CIA director Bill Burns said
the agency was trying to expand
its Chinese network after a
catastrophic exposure event in
which they will spies were lost.
Adam Curry: This is just a
takedown to CIA. This is just
more like ah, CIA is no good.
They can't even get a guy go to
the opera to stay safe.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the FBI
wants to job. Some Yeah,
something like that. You know,
the FBI is taken over the secret
services job. And also this I
don't know if I have a clip of
this. But you know, the shameful
I don't? Is that the current
situation in Ecuador? I do have
a clip, actually. Because that
guy was shot. It turns out now
they're asking for the FBIs help
about this assassination. Yeah.
And obviously this is a takeover
of Ecuador. We need to Ecuador
because of the oil. I think one
of our producers sent us some
information about what's going
on there did and this is like
what's the FBI doing in Ecuador.
And this is what again, brings
me back to my complaint about
FBI international the TV show by
Dick Wolf. When does the FBI
become this world police six
Colombian
Unknown: men are charged with
the assassination of an
Ecuadorian presidential
candidate. Officials say the
suspect and Wednesday shooting
are part of a drug trafficking
ring. The candidate had
campaigned on fighting crime and
corruption. A number of other
candidates have suspended their
campaigns in the wake of the
killing.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I have the
note about about the they called
the FBI they call the FBI not to
see it. They said hey, FBI, we
need your help. Come on in as
weird. I find it
John C Dvorak: peculiar this to
say the least. But I think they
were trying to take over
Ecuador. We've already got the
belt of Africa. And by the way,
I was looking into it. The belt
of Africa which does go from
coast to coast and all the
countries that are going to side
with Nigeria are all part of The
belt, the cool belt, which is
suspicious in itself, and of
course the Russians are somehow
there.
Adam Curry: How about the trans
African rail line? That China?
Yeah, well,
John C Dvorak: that was
originally going to go through
Central African Republic and
over to Cameroon. Now that's not
gonna happen i because Sudan is
part of this of the belt. So I
think that that part of it has
something to do with it, but I
have to Niger clips. Oh, hold on
a second of the Niger update,
and then a little ditty about
France.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Because before
we do that, so we had well,
that's weird. We had an Africa
jingle. Someone made Africa,
I'll play your Niger stuff along
second making plans for Niger
Unknown: West African nations on
Friday worked on plans for
possible military intervention
in Asia. The regional bloc also
pledged to to enforce sanctions,
travel bans, and asset freezes
under Giunta, which ousted
former President Mohamed Bazoom.
On July 26, after a summit of
its heads of state ICA was
ordered the activation of a
standby force for possible use
against the Ginta. It said it
had not given up hope of a
peaceful resolution to the
crisis but that all options
including military action were
possible. Nigeria's President
full out Enugu
Adam Curry: from the community
of this summit
Unknown: no is ticking of the
table,
including the use of force. It
is not clear how big the force
would be if it would actually
invade and which countries would
contribute. security analysts
said Ico was forced could take
weeks or longer to assemble
potentially leaving room for
negotiations. The Giunta has
said it would defend the country
against any foreign attack.
So there's still a lot of
unknowns. But this is a
significant next step, and
certainly an escalation of
tensions, at least between the
regional bloc and the offensive
block that seems to be forming
right now. Between Mali Burkina
Faso and Niger, specifically,
in the capital and yummy
residents condemned the military
intervention plan
plus ECOWAS needs to understand
what the people of various
member countries expect of it.
what is expected of ECOWAS is to
attack the causes of coup
d'etat, not the consequences.
Because the European Union and
the United States reiterated
concern about the conditions
under which Bazoom and his
family were being detained.
Adam Curry: Hold on. A little
longer. No, I know. I couldn't
find it.
John C Dvorak: Okay, yes.
Adam Curry: Sorry. I found it
though.
John C Dvorak: No punch. So
yeah, we're concerned about how
the other guy's being treated.
We didn't say anything about our
concerns about the place being
taken over
Unknown: No, no, we're not. So
here's part two.
Uranium rich Niger is a key ally
for the West in the fight
against Islamist militants in
the Sahel region until the coup,
it was also aligned with the
West after neighboring Mali, and
others turned against former
colonial power France, in favor
of closer ties with Russia.
France said late on Thursday, it
fully backed all the conclusions
of ECOWAS meeting, but it stayed
clear of outlining any concrete
support it could give to any
potential intervention.
John C Dvorak: So we booted
France out.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think that
was part of the plan. I mean,
France needed for the uranium
because they still use maybe I
think used to be 70 bucks,
probably 55 60%. Atomic,
John C Dvorak: I think it's more
I still think it's over in the
70s 70s. So that's
Adam Curry: out of the gas
pipeline to this is why it's not
even about the Africa. It's
about Europe. We're just
screwing Europe.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this cuts
off if the French were to buy
uranium they can buy it from the
Russians.
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you Hill.
John C Dvorak: And yeah, this is
France got screwed on the wheel.
I'm sure they were extracting
uranium for next to nothing.
Adam Curry: We will continue to
monitor this as we learn more
about Africa than we ever wanted
to know.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I didn't
want to know anything.
Adam Curry: To two quickies that
we have to play just to get them
on record.
Unknown: Tonight. disgraced
former billionaire and
cryptocurrency CEO Sam bank
ministries sent back to jail
after prosecutors accused him of
giving a document to a media
outlet to intimidate a witness a
judge revoking a 31 year old
$250 million bail remanding him
into the custody of US Marshals
proxy Get her say bank been free
try to discredit a trial witness
and taint the jury pool when he
shared excerpts of his ex
girlfriend Caroline Ellison's
personal documents with the New
York Times Ellison led bank Ben
Fried's Alameda Research Fund
she's pleaded guilty and agreed
to cooperate in the
investigation into allegations
bank Ben freed defrauded
customers and lenders of his now
bankrupt cryptocurrency company.
FTX is speaking with our George
Stephanopoulos late last year.
I'm trying
to focus on what I can do going
forward to be helpful.
And you know,
Adam Curry: you know, that
cleaning everything up. Every
everybody you know he needed to
go away. He's dangerous. He's
dangerous. He knows way too much
about all the campaign
contributions he knows about the
money to Ukraine. He knows too
much. Speaking of Ukraine. This
happened
Unknown: tonight, President
Solinsky announcing a crackdown
on corruption firing every
regional military recruitment
chief ABCs chief foreign
correspondent Ian Pannell is in
Ukraine.
A devastating Russian missile
strike in zipper region in the
SouthEast of Ukraine. video
circulating online showing the
moment one of the ballistic
missiles flew overhead
yesterday, and the terrifying
moment it lands exploding.
Residents running for their
lives to missiles slamming next
to a hotel one woman died 90
were injured including four
children according to the state
governor. And tonight, President
Solinsky firing every single
regional military enlistment
chief across Ukraine amid a
major corruption scandal.
Lindsey some of these officers
are accused of taking bribes so
people can dodge military
enlistment and the Lensky saying
the way they treat actual
Warriors is immoral.
John C Dvorak: A terrible
version of that story because
they interrupted it with a drone
strike. I have my stories now
much better. But I have another
clip that at least bring doesn't
bring her up.
Adam Curry: Yeah, brings in
leaves the drone strike intact.
Yes, Ukrainian
John C Dvorak: moves the drone
strike out and keeps this
corruption thing. What is going
on with these? anybody in their
right mind? They're bailing out
of the country?
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, yes. And
we're bailing out too. This is
the beginning. This is always
the Lensky.
John C Dvorak: Son of Ukraine.
Unknown: Ukrainian state
investigators have uncovered
some shady business deals at
business Erie recruitment
offices to paint the picture.
112 criminal cases have been
opened, exposing officials
allegedly making illegal money,
and they're also accused of
transporting new recruits across
borders to other countries. Now
how much money was actually
taken is still unknown. However,
all of this follows a scandal in
the Ukrainian city of Odessa. A
recruitment officials family in
Spain was found owning
properties worth millions of
dollars. The corruption scandal
comes at a time when Ukraine's
long awaited counter offensive
has been hampered by Russian
defense lines. Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky
quickly responded to the
corruption allegations and fired
all military recruitment
officers in the country. And he
said this
system should be run by people
who know exactly what war is and
why cynicism and bribery in
times of war constitute treason.
Adam Curry: This is a message
and I'm not exactly sure what it
is. But if it's about exposing
more corruption, there's a lot
to come. There's the entire
telegram channels filled with
high ranking Ukrainian officials
in foreign countries in Western
Europe in Austria. They've got a
boo god, he's very raw. They've
got Lamborghinis, Ferraris Rolls
Royces. They've got multimillion
dollar condos
John C Dvorak: thanks to the
American taxpayer.
Adam Curry: It's all our money
of course. So maybe this they're
finally winding this down. I
mean, Africa is heating up. This
has got to go. But how do we how
do we close it out? How do we
finish it?
John C Dvorak: They don't have
an exit strategy. We know that.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: No peace. What a
crazy idea. We could just have
peace.
John C Dvorak: Well, not with
Zelinsky there, they're gonna
have to do something about that
guy. Where's Halle Jones was his
legacy scenario.
Adam Curry: We'll have we'll
have peace. Oh, I know what's
going to happen to Zelinsky
Unknown: sucked into a jet
engine.
John C Dvorak: In a mood if He's
smart, he's going to go to start
Switzerland as fast as he can. I
Adam Curry: hear Madrid is the
new place to hang out. That's
where all the elites are Madrid
because Madrid is like you can
completely live in luxury in a
nice big town. It's
John C Dvorak: fun Madrid
Adam Curry: Madrid is that's
where a lot of the royal family
are hanging out now. Madrid
seems the place to be.
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well,
that's where he should go then
Adam Curry: Mr. Lensky out,
Vicki Newland puts in some new
people. They go for peace.
John C Dvorak: But they got a
weather here's what they have to
get but they can't just let
Solinsky escape and just leave
the very they gotta he's got to
be asked to buy some general who
some phony baloney ousting he's
going to flee to Madrid How
about the
Adam Curry: people how about the
people know that people
John C Dvorak: won't do
anything? No obviously he
wouldn't happen by now it's got
to be a general some guy and
then he's gonna get he's going
to escape narrowly escape and
end up in Madrid or wherever he
wants to go
Adam Curry: I don't I don't like
your scenario. I think jet
engine is much better. You've
been more fun
John C Dvorak: hoping people get
sucked into jet engines for over
a year you
Adam Curry: wait you wait it's
gonna happen. We got a jet
engine in someone's future
that's it
John C Dvorak: cleaning up that
mess.
Adam Curry: No. Coming to you
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Unknown: Whisper to my life the
environment 1.9 $1.9 trillion
dollars?
Know.
Adam Curry: Hundreds of 1000s of
homeless eating from garbage
cans in America
Unknown: Get on the streets of
San Francisco and then there's
nothing better when you're
pooping on
Adam Curry: the streets in San
Francisco
Unknown: called around the
world. Be careful where you put
your feet here and the smelly
Thrive streets here in San
Francisco drop on the New York
junkies it'll be crazy to try.
And btw five streets doesn't
matter if you're just as long as
you don't
blame it on President Trump.
We've been in the streets come
on down with us streets.
Adam Curry: How did anyone know
that the bag of poop on the San
Francisco street? How did anyone
know that? It was 20 pounds 20
pounds of human waste. Like did
anyone
John C Dvorak: know? You're
walking down the street? What is
that bill? It looks like a bag
of poop. Hold on a second. I've
got a postal scale with me.
Unknown: MoPhO vorak.org/n A
Oh my god.