Cover for No Agenda Show 1580: Coup Map
August 10th, 2023 • 3h 10m

1580: Coup Map

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John C Dvorak: The batteries go dead.
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Adam Curry: Adam curry Jhansi Devorah Augustana 2025 Ward
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winning combination media assassination episode 15
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Unknown: This is no agenda
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Adam Curry: burning up the beaches and broadcasting live
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from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region
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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all
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wondering, was Joe Biden resigning? Um, Jhansi Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Wow, did you get a new toy?
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John C Dvorak: Oh no, this that same thing that I was sharing
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whoever it is, send me all these noisemakers, and it sounds like
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a drum room full. Now.
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Adam Curry: I was like a proper drum is what it sounds like.
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John C Dvorak: It does. It does. But it's not. It's a skin over
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it looks like a drum buss up does not didn't have all the
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other elements, you know that you can change the tight end and
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do this and that is more like a tambourine without the cymbal
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thingies.
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Adam Curry: All right. Well, I think we should start with the
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obvious the top of the news everybody we've got Hawaii
1:07
burnin.
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Unknown: On Molly tonight fire crews are fighting to contain a
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massive brush fire. It's a long haul Noah Pilani highway and
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mount Elia. The Maui Fire Department says 6000 acres have
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already burned Pamilyang as the
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latest
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movie Firefighters say this streak of flame might have
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started as a flare I'm
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Adam Curry: sorry, that's 2016 This is the report I met
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Unknown: via fire rages across Hawaii. Maui Island threatening
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homes in the western area of Lahaina. The deadly Blaze has
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forced people from the emergency shelters which was set by us as
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Hurricane Lane near the island. Authorities fear that the Wi Fi
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might have incinerated homes even
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Adam Curry: I'm sorry, that's that's 2018 Oh goodness, let me
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get the current report three
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Unknown: wildfires killed several people and burned down
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hundreds of structures on the island of Maui, fueled by the
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winds of hurricane Dora, which past south of the island and was
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a normally safe distance of 800 kilometers away. The blazes left
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according to pilot kilometer hook elliptic landscapes.
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Adam Curry: They have really upgraded the language on this
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frequently occurring thing. We were not prepared for what we
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saw, how could you not be prepared and happened in
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2016 2018 What we saw
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Unknown: looked like an area that had been bombed and burned
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by in a war zone.
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The Coast Guard rescued over people were forced into the
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ocean to escape the flames. Combined with dry grasslands,
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under the blazes, ferocity and speed.
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So you have dry vegetation, that is when there's a spark, it's
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easier for that vegetation to ignite and further wildfires.
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Climate change and other parts of the world is increasing,
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increasing vegetation dryness,
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Hawaii open several shelters to house the up to 4000 displaced.
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And now his main airport was sheltering some 2000 people
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seeking
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Adam Curry: their yard to climate change increasing
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vaginal dryness. I mean, they should totally have a disclaimer
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on all the medications. This happens every couple of years in
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Maui, so you could
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John C Dvorak: probably go back further. Oh, easily. Thanks. I
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was wondering where are you going to do this story at all
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until I realize you're gonna do the what I consider it the
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lowest of the low tricks on this show.
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Adam Curry: It's the best, lowest of the low. No, come on,
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man. This is this is something you? I would never did you.
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Wait, did you actually do this yourself?
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John C Dvorak: No, no, I didn't. I did not know. I have no Maori
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clips. But you have to understand you have to say it's
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funny. Did this the imagery they like to put in people's minds of
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people jumping off the island? Ocean,
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Adam Curry: you have to understand it's working. Climate
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change is real. We go to C span independent line. Sergio
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Unknown: in Schenectady, New York independent?
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Yes, good morning C span for taking my call a two points that
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I wanted to make. I just don't understand the disconnect of
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reality of people saying that climate change is not occurring.
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Climate change is not. I mean, a simple thing. I had to have my
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homeowners insurance just renewed and my insurance bill
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went up 25% Oh, no. Why? Why canes, flood, etc. We're seeing
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the effects of climate change all over. And there's just this
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denialism that I just don't understand.
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Adam Curry: Okay, my bill went up. So climate change is real.
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Wow, this is how the scam works to beautiful scam. And then the
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best thing ever from the Biden administration for years. For
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years, people laughed, people laughed, people laughed and now
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they're just going to do it.
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Unknown: It's about administration signals its fight
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against global warming may actually involve war. blocking
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sunlight. The White House posting research, claiming,
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quote, solar radiation modification would enable better
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informed decisions about the potential risks and benefits of
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SRM as a component of climate policy. Alongside the
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foundational elements of greenhouse gas emissions
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Adam Curry: mitigation. Come on man to calling it SRM. Just call
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it what it is. You've been doing this for years. And now we're
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just oh, we'll just go call SRM. Solar radiation modification.
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This cannot be a good idea.
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John C Dvorak: This has got to be the worst idea ever. And
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built in you don't know the reason? Well, you've already
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been a movie about it.
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Adam Curry: Which movie was that? Snowpiercer. Someone now
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what was that there was someone who said Snowpiercer was an
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obvious follow up to some other move up. I gotta look that up.
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It now isn't Snowpiercer also a series?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that series is no good. No, good. You gotta
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watch the movie you want to watch.
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Adam Curry: Anyway, all of this brings us to a fabulous piece of
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television. Production on PBS. PBS looked into climate change
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and its climate change is so severe, the fear that we have
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pumped into people's heads. The fear is so bad that we need a
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therapist to help us. Lesley Davenport is a climate
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psychology therapist. She teaches at the California
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Institute of integral studies and is author of emotional
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resiliency in the era of climate change. Pleasant when this
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healthy concern about the planet about climate change, become
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this sort of climate anxiety?
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Unknown: Well, from the emerging field of climate psychology, one
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Adam Curry: emerging field, mind you, it's all brand new, and I'm
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leading the charge
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Unknown: from the emerging field of climate psychology. What's
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really important to understand is you distress upset sadness,
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grief, anger about climate change to be a really
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reasonable, even healthy reaction. Because it's a word
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into
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Adam Curry: a reasonably healthy, yes, it's a very
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healthy reaction when you're being when you're
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John C Dvorak: bullshitted into getting depressed over a non
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existent climate change narrative. that's healthy.
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Adam Curry: Well, the the reality is people believe this,
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they have been best into this, they they have been bullied into
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it, they had the fear, just look at the maps. The map, you know,
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it's like the same temperatures 10 years ago, only now the map
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is red, were burning up with burning
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John C Dvorak: that picture the news or they change the colors
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or jumping into the ocean, or lower, but they baked bread,
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we've got to jump into the ocean,
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Adam Curry: it's so bad
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Unknown: to be a really reasonable, even healthy
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reaction.
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Adam Curry: I can't understand even what reaction was here to
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get
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Unknown: a really reasonable, even healthy reaction and
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healthy
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Adam Curry: reactions healthy. It's healthy when you're being
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propagandized.
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Unknown: Because it's built into us as people that if we feel
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risks, thread, amygdala, that's experience loss, there's going
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to be upset. So it's really important to acknowledge that if
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you're feeling that on any level of intensity, it really means
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you're paying attention you care, you're empathetic to
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what's happening to our world.
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But when does it become a problem? When this becomes
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something that people feel they should go talk to someone about?
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Adam Curry: Wow, well, it would. When you're no longer when
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you're overboard from the no agenda show, it's going to
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become a problem. You're going to start freaking out from all
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this stuff. That's when you need to go well,
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Unknown: it can certainly grow into something that interferes
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with functioning in daily life keeps you awake at night, gets
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in the way of enjoying life becomes really the predominant
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concern high levels of physiological distress racing
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hearts, intrusive thoughts, it can take many, many forms.
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Adam Curry: I don't worry, we got a pill for you. But here is
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the kicker of this piece. There are three groups three main
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groups who are suffering severely from climate. What was
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it actually what'd she call it? Well, she's a climate psychology
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therapist. So people who there are three groups who suffered
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the most from fear of irrational fear of climate change, and
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therefore need to go no,
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John C Dvorak: no therapist wrong. It's rational and
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healthy.
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Adam Curry: So three groups, can you even guess? The top group
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who suffers the most from climate anxiety?
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John C Dvorak: transgenders
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Adam Curry: not even close. It's much better than that. Are you
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ever
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Unknown: private practice in the Pacific Northwest Southern
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California? Are you seeing more people coming to you talking
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about this?
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I sure do. And I sure have I'd say there's been a big leaf in
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the last five years. And there are three groups I see the most
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one are people working in this field?
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Adam Curry: actual people who were killed Oh, my goodness,
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they're freaking themselves out about this. Okay, clip for the
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day right away. One of this stuff works so well. Breaking
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themselves out of ice. Do
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John C Dvorak: you give people that are freaked out and they go
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to see a psychologist? Oh, I'm freaked out about climate
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change. What do you tell them? What
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Adam Curry: you tell them? It's healthy. Keep going. It's
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healthy.
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Unknown: And there are three groups I see the most one are
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people working in this field? frontline workers, scientists
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who are being
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John C Dvorak: line workers. What is that? I don't know,
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Adam Curry: man. Is a circular psychiatry is what this is. I
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love the frontline workers, the frontline. John, where are you?
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Frontline of the client, frontline worker, I'm a
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frontline worker of climate change.
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Unknown: Workers, scientists who are studying this.
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Adam Curry: Oh, it's a
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John C Dvorak: scientists were frozen women studying it is
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suddenly a frontline worker, a frontline we redefine these
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terms that actually have meaning.
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Adam Curry: Well, it brings it back to COVID. You know, so
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that's it's all it's she is in fact,
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John C Dvorak: it actually brings us back to 911. Oh, thank
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Adam Curry: you. That's even better. Yes. Yes. It's all
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trauma based programming. And she is she's probably MK Ultra
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herself to do this. But that's how it works. You traumatize
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people and keep hammering that stuff in there. And now because
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we have summer, summer, we have you know, and workers.
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John C Dvorak: I should mention that we do have clips in the
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archives. If you intend to put this together you might have
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considered playing a couple of words a little girls that are
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basically crying in the street because of climate change. There
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was a couple of these at work in England, it was really a problem
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because it'd be just a girl little girl in the street crying
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about climate change. It was just pathetic.
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Adam Curry: I'm not sure that I can find that easily crying.
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Well look forward, Listen to the clip line worker
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Unknown: scientists who are studying this and recognizing
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what a dangerous trajectory we're on. To our people who have
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been touched very directly about with big losses lost their home
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and the fires in Santa Rosa a couple of years ago, I've had to
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decide if they want us to live in a fire prone area.
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Adam Curry: Here's a thought no, no, certainly not. If you're
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gonna have that kind of electricity being managed for
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you the woods being managed for you
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Unknown: area. And there's a very high level of distress
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among children and youth. This is when they naturally glance
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into their future, deciding where they want to live what
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they want to do young adults if they want to start a family and
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they're quite upset about the prospects of what their future
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may entail.
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Adam Curry: You're right, we go back to February of 2019.
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Unknown: My name is Iris and I'm in love
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I love
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right, we're about it the moment this isn't good
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Adam Curry: alright, so they're terrorizing your children with
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this nonsense. And it's working. It's just
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John C Dvorak: working terrorizing children every way
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they can. So let's bring out
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Adam Curry: the big mascot. Let's bring out the big guns
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we've got we got to take advantage of this because the
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summer is nearing the end. We've got to get going. We've got to
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bring up bring up Paul a Jane Pauley bring it out. Politicians
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Unknown: may still debate it but it's getting harder and harder
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to deny. with temperatures climbing to new heights
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everywhere. Something's going on out there. Oh yeah. DAVID POGUE
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takes us to Phoenix, where the heat is on going to
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Adam Curry: Phoenix where it's hot, which never been hot. It's
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hot as hell every single year, but something's up this year.
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DAVID POGUE man we're bringing on everybody. We need a special
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report. Get Jane Pauley? We need David Pogue, we need a we need
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the works. Crickets.
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Unknown: The last eight years have been the hottest years ever
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measured on the planet.
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Adam Curry: Okay, thanks, brother.
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Unknown: July was the hottest month ever recorded. July 6, was
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the hottest day
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Adam Curry: in all human history since the dinosaurs and beyond
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all over the
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Unknown: planet.
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John C Dvorak: Well, hold on, hold on. They have a kind of a
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funny gotcha in the parsing of that what he says when he says
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ever recorded now, of course, of course, although they are making
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a stretch of it when they say in the last 250,000 years because
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Adam Curry: there's no this is all at boom, it's all built.
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Yeah. Well,
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John C Dvorak: but it's well done. Yeah,
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Unknown: July 6 was the hottest day day all over the planet. The
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heat broke temperature records, including in Siberia. Oh, no
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under than three degrees. More than half the US population was
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subjected to heat warnings in July. Here in Phoenix, Arizona,
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the heat has broken all kinds of records, including the longest
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streak of consecutive days where the temperature hit 110 degrees
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or hotter.
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Really cooking today in Phoenix 118 degrees, I think tomorrow
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will be even hotter. And it's
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not just the hot air this dangerous. It's the surfaces.
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This steering wheel 162.5 this sidewalk is 144 Fahrenheit.
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That's hot enough to burn your dog's paws in 60 seconds. And
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this playground slide for children 182.8 degrees
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Adam Curry: a metal slide people. This is unbelievable.
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This is nothing new zero. I have I have a documentary I did in
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1990. We went to Vegas was for a Dutch station. And I and it was
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one of those summers it was it was the middle of the summer.
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And you see me cooking and egg on the pavement. Haha. It's like
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this is the oldest dumbest stuff ever. It's just simply not true.
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It's fear mongering. And they do it to themselves as we just
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heard. That it Yeah, that's
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John C Dvorak: the great part about it. That's kind of
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interesting. It's like, it's like the I don't want to
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associate I mentioned trans earlier as a gag but it's like
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the same thing. They're doing it to themselves. The Liberals are
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sterilizing their own children because their true believers
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Adam Curry: and their frontline their friends
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John C Dvorak: and their frontline line true believers,
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true believers.
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Adam Curry: This is chopped up into a couple of short segments.
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Thank you clip custodian. Let's continue with David Pogues
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report,
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Unknown: so why has so much of the country been scorching for
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so long scorching? Well, allow me to introduce that breakout.
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John C Dvorak: Wait, before you continue this. This has been the
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coldest summer I've ever had in this town. over 20
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Adam Curry: years was the hottest ever anywhere in the
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world for all recorded history. You lie,
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John C Dvorak: man right now it is about 67
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Adam Curry: Wow, you must be sweating balls.
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John C Dvorak: This is like the literal and I'm not kidding.
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I've been bitching about it all summer. This is the coldest
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we've never had June or May June warm up. Never warmed up cold as
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hell in July is still cold. It usually starts warming up hasn't
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done that. Hey, so why don't you a report around a year and then
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generalize it?
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Adam Curry: You know, Texas, although we need some rain. It's
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100 it's not the hottest. It's 100 104 Okay, it's hot. Texas
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summer. It's not like 2011 when it was 212 degrees in Austin.
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But you know, it doesn't matter. We've got some money we need to
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justify to spend
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Unknown: Well allow me to introduce that breakout weather
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term of 2023. The heat dome
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Adam Curry: heat dome never heard of that before. It's an
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Unknown: area of high pressure way up high. The traps the warm
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air like the lid on a POTS, it traps the heat. It stops raining
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from moving into cools off. And it just sits there.
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Adam Curry: I mean, this is this is true mind control that they
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are propagandizing upon people.
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Unknown: Unfortunately, not every area under the heat dome
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suffers equally.
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Adam Curry: Oh, unfortunate. Oh, unfortunately. Yeah. You're not
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suffering equally.
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John C Dvorak: Unfortunately, everything is not everyone is
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suffering equally. Listen again.
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Unknown: Unfortunately, not every area under the heat dome
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suffers equally.
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Adam Curry: Oh, this is unfortunate.
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John C Dvorak: That is unbelievable that that if you
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take a look at that sentence, they want people to suffer. You
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want to say I'm indeed sorry that not everyone's suffering.
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Adam Curry: Well, that's what he's saying. The next sentence
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kind of reverses that. But I agree with you. That's what he
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was saying for sure.
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Unknown: Unfortunately, not every area under the heat dome
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suffers equally. You want to know who gets the worst of it.
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cities cities are where he comes to stay and comes to live.
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Becca Benner is a director of climate issues at the nonprofit
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Nature Conservancy.
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Adam Curry: I want to be a director of climate issues but
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Abacha got a good salary doing that. I'm talking about some
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climate issues. As you know, I'm the director of them.
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Unknown: Cities on average are several degrees warmer than the
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surrounding areas while this is new, and just because of so much
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pavement
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Adam Curry: 1919 87 The summer of 1987 I moved to New York City
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to Manhattan. And I thought I had entered hell. Man hats
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funny.
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John C Dvorak: In in New York City in 1987. I
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Adam Curry: saw you that was the hellish part.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was, it was it was I remember this. It
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was PC Magazine. So I remember getting out of my hotel room
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walking about a block, and then you fell down with a heart
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attack, and go back and change my clothes.
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Adam Curry: That's what 1987 and summers after that many summers.
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That's why people leave New York City in the summer. They leave
20:58
because you can't breathe. It's so humid. It's so
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John C Dvorak: humid. You get soaked? Yes.
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Adam Curry: Only only poor people, like VJs live in the
21:08
city during the summer
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Unknown: cities on average are several degrees warmer than the
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surrounding areas. That's why they invented the Hamptons. And
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just because of so much pavement, it tends to absorb
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heat better and reflect heat better.
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They call it an urban heat island effect. Too much pavement
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now.
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Adam Curry: If we're never gonna get through this report.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Because it's to deconstruct so good. I
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know is Is it is it absorbs or reflects Yes, it's she says it
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absorbs and reflects listen several
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Unknown: degrees warmer than the surrounding areas. And just
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because of so much pavement, it tends to absorb heat better and
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reflect heat better,
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Adam Curry: massively cool. This is scientific.
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John C Dvorak: That's not even possible.
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Adam Curry: It is kind of
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John C Dvorak: a contradiction. It's either gonna absorb or
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reflect.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, good point. Yeah. What is that director of
22:04
climate issues?
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Unknown: They call it the urban heat island effect is the urban
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heat
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Adam Curry: island effect when it absorbs and reflects at the
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same time? Don't you know anything about science,
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Unknown: too much pavement, not enough trees and greenery to
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cool things off. It's a city the heat island effect is worst in
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the poor areas of our cities, where there aren't many trees,
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and even the bus stops don't always offer shade.
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Adam Curry: It poor people doors for poor people, but it's
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alright because they have a solution.
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Unknown: Last month, President Biden announced some small steps
22:40
toward adapting to dangerous heat, like expanding access to
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drinking water, improving weather forecasts,
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Adam Curry: improving weather forecasts that must be those red
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maps we have.
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John C Dvorak: We have those. What does that mean?
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Adam Curry: I don't know. It's improving the weather forecast
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making it better and making it more scary.
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John C Dvorak: Like lists and access to drinking water mean in
23:04
the city. It's mean
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Adam Curry: it means someone spent some money on something
23:09
that no one benefits. Yeah. Fosston access
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Unknown: to drinking water, improving weather forecasts and
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setting up a heat alert system.
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Adam Curry: Oh, we should be protecting workers from
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hazardous conditions. And we will Oh. Ladies, gentlemen, we
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have a hot summer
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Unknown: before Garro maintains that there's much more to be
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done. city planners should develop heat infrastructure,
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like cooling centers and strategic greenery. And the
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federal government should start taking heat as seriously as it
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treats other climate disasters.
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FEMA has never declared extreme heat as a disaster.
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So flooding and hurricane all those things can be designated
23:50
federal disaster areas but not heat
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not heat, standing up more cooling centers providing
23:56
greater services for people no that is not reimbursed by the
24:00
government because there has never been been a FEMA. Extreme
24:05
heat declared disaster.
24:07
Adam Curry: We need EMA extreme heat declared disaster. Because
24:11
when you have a FEMA disaster, you're right money that's when
24:16
the money comes out. Said the director of climate issues now.
24:20
Which disaster kills No, most of all the disasters. What is the
24:25
most deadly disaster?
24:27
Unknown: Which climate crisis disaster kills the most people?
24:31
John C Dvorak: Oh man, which
24:33
Adam Curry: one could it be? I'm going to say severe cold kills
24:38
the most people. That is a fact. People die in the winter easily.
24:45
Look at France. Look at all look at the UK.
24:49
John C Dvorak: This is a chart show that the chart shows that
24:52
you weren't caught you went cold you're gonna get dead does Zeze
24:56
Unknown: extreme heat is the climate disaster that kills the
24:59
most Keep In fact,
25:01
Adam Curry: that's a lie. But in fact she has a fact it kills
25:04
Unknown: more people than all of the other disasters combined.
25:11
Adam Curry: That is demonstrably just not true. You can you can
25:13
in fact
25:14
John C Dvorak: I will continue there's charts there's
25:16
definitely going around these charts showing that the extreme
25:19
cold is very deadly extremely heat you know, you can it's ways
25:23
to get around it. Soak yourself. I mean, just there's a lot of
25:26
things you can do. Let me see wonder Gross is not this is a
25:30
piercer who did this report this show up? Yes, CBS, CBS are
25:38
working for them. She's
25:39
Adam Curry: freelance here. This is Forbes. Now take it for what
25:43
it is just my first hit on a search excessive heat can kill.
25:46
But extreme cold still causes many more fatalities. I mean,
25:51
they could have done a search
25:52
John C Dvorak: that took you two seconds to find.
25:54
Unknown: And we kind of have a joke here that we show a picture
25:57
of before show a picture after a heatwave and
26:00
Adam Curry: that's a big joke it's a joke as you're making
26:02
money director of climate issues the same
26:05
Unknown: picture and that's part of the problem because people
26:08
see tornadoes and houses are up ended and hurricanes and trees
26:12
and utility poles and it's it's this invisible killer. So it
26:17
sounds like killer heat among the various climate disasters
26:21
does not get enough love from the media and the government.
26:25
It absolutely does not get enough love. Heat needs more
26:28
love.
26:30
Adam Curry: This is this is the Tiffany network. I want to
26:32
remind you with Tiffany network of news, he doesn't get enough
26:36
love. Heat needs more love. Well done the final clip. If you know
26:41
what you know what's coming, we just have to call it what it is.
26:44
Because every single disaster whenever it takes place in the
26:48
United States merch and media, they always come to the same old
26:51
phrase.
26:52
John C Dvorak: Wait, wait, can I guess the conclusion? Yeah.
26:55
Trump's fault.
26:56
Unknown: Of course, heat waves aren't the only result of the
26:59
warming planet. Heat also dries out vegetation and we get fires.
27:04
Heat evaporates the land so we get droughts. Heat evaporates
27:08
the oceans so we get hurricanes. The Nature Conservancy is Becca
27:13
Benner cautions us not to think of this summer's heat as
27:17
something freakish and rare. It's the new norm narrative,
27:21
it is no longer a future threat. We are living this now. So
27:26
whether your basement just flooded, whether you just had to
27:29
evacuate for a fire, whether it's too hot for you to go
27:32
outside and enjoy yourself that means we are now experiencing
27:36
some of the impacts of climate change. We have to reduce
27:39
emissions and we have to do it immediately and faster and
27:43
faster.
27:44
Adam Curry: It's the new normal that's what it is the new normal
27:49
it's always been normal but now you just put a new it's like New
27:51
Coke
27:52
John C Dvorak: the new normal but they've same effectiveness
27:55
Adam Curry: they've got a hurry because you know we're at the
27:57
top of the of the solar cycle by the day
28:02
John C Dvorak: that thing flips over to colder Yes,
28:05
Adam Curry: it's gonna get really cold but that'll be
28:06
climate change. Don't worry. It'll be climate change. Oh,
28:10
what are we going to do? Yeah by by 2030 That's when the
28:16
temperatures will just go down by the natural cycle which is
28:20
well discussed in the science.
28:25
John C Dvorak: I only have one claim at clip which is the hot
28:29
in Alaska clip which got some attention from NPR.
28:33
Adam Curry: Let's see hot. Looking for
28:38
John C Dvorak: has never been hot in Alaska ever. I
28:42
Adam Curry: wish I could find OH climate well. When you say hot
28:45
in Alaska. I'm looking for the eighth
28:47
John C Dvorak: I say I only have one climate. Last
28:49
Unknown: month may have been the hottest July ever recorded on
28:52
Earth. Nevertheless on Earth spear the state is now facing a
28:55
late season flare up of wildfires in the interior. As
28:58
record heat drags into August. As Ana County with member
29:01
station K T O reports more than 140 wildfires are burning across
29:06
the states.
29:07
This round of wildfires comes after relatively little fire
29:10
activity earlier this summer. Climate specialist Rick toman
29:13
with the University of Alaska Fairbanks says the August
29:16
typically brings relief to the state's fire prone interior.
29:19
By the time we get to early August. It's raining that's
29:23
putting out fires and keeping existing fires from growing this
29:27
year. That's not happening
29:29
instead hot dry conditions that began last month have persisted.
29:33
Fruit God Vic the nation's northernmost city. This July was
29:37
the hottest month on record for Fairbanks, the second hottest
29:43
Adam Curry: hottest on record. Ah, well. I mean, we know what
29:48
this does. Yeah, we know what this does. This brings. This
29:53
brings COVID
29:55
John C Dvorak: Well, and you know I have some interesting
29:57
clips, so do I
29:58
Adam Curry: but I yield the floor. to you.
30:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So there's something going on. I
30:07
don't know what it is. Do i Mr. Smith or whatever his name was.
30:12
This is bad doctors Report on PBS they brought this woman on.
30:16
Her name is Lena sun. And she's a writer for The WaPo perfect
30:20
for the climate change. Segue. Yeah, but she's a she's a she
30:23
talks about she's the one who introduced us to Zika Oh, she's
30:28
the one who introduced us to monkey pox. Is this article
30:32
after article why she may be the beast. She's the one who
30:36
introduced it. Oh, big breaking story. Oh, it's great. Now we
30:41
can get the shots from five year olds. That woman is a DT he is.
30:49
Adam Curry: Here we go. CICA. CICA, CICA, CICA baby with a
30:53
little bit he had with Zika Zika Zika. Well, we've been here she
30:57
John C Dvorak: is they're going after ivermectin and
31:00
hydroxychloroquine. Yes, because they can't stop themselves
31:03
because I think there's an investigation afoot. And so
31:07
they're going to do what they can to cut them off at the past
31:10
bad doctors Lena sign cut. What a first cut cut one vs.
31:15
Unknown: One what happens when, in the middle of a pandemic,
31:19
doctors spread misinformation, potentially endangering people's
31:23
lives. William Branham spoke recently with a reporter who set
31:27
out to answer that very question.
31:29
A new investigation from the Washington Post reveals how
31:32
doctors who pushed medical misinformation particularly
31:36
about dangerous alleged COVID remedies faced few if any
31:40
repercussions. One of the lead reporters on that investigation
31:44
was Lena sun. She covers health and infectious diseases for the
31:48
post and joins us now. Linus on Welcome back to the News Hour.
31:52
Thank you. Nice to be here.
31:53
You looked at complaints against doctors in all 50 states and
31:58
from the starting of the pandemic until just recently,
32:01
before we get into what you found, can you tell us what are
32:04
these doctors alleged to have been doing?
32:07
Adam Curry: Oh, this is the disinfo doesn't this is Mercola.
32:10
And
32:10
John C Dvorak: oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's got nothing to
32:12
do with those people. Oh, this is the doctors that regular
32:15
doctors on the street. We had an old clip of that guy and it used
32:20
to be in Hawaii Five o talking about how his doctor treated him
32:23
when he got COVID Early on when it was really dangerous. And he
32:26
mentioned hydroxy Chloroquine. Maybe I remember one very good
32:31
clip we picked up early in the show. Yes. This is about regular
32:36
doctors. This is a this is a a warning shot across the bow to
32:42
any doctors who dare to violate what they're told to say and
32:47
what they're told to do. It's got nothing to do it to
32:50
disinformation doesn't at all and they're not doctors, most of
32:53
them. So let's go. Here we go is part two, it
32:59
Unknown: covers the range, but many of the doctors that we
33:02
looked into that actually were disciplined. were prescribing
33:06
ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. Those are
33:09
two treatments that are shown to be not effective for treating
33:13
COVID 19. But they of course gained a lot of popularity
33:17
during the pandemic because they were pushed by former President
33:20
Trump, his allies, Trump, Trump and his
33:23
John C Dvorak: allies. Now I have to put a little color in
33:26
here. When they showed when she said ivermectin, they showed
33:31
they went to a picture of an ivermectin horse jell O wow.
33:41
Excellent. To top it off a picture of a horse. Said
33:49
ivermectin, and they had a silhouette of a horse running a
33:52
horse. Wow. They're dry. So they're driving this old point
33:56
home. William. William Brangham. Who's the guy who's the reporter
34:00
here is interviewing her pushes back on nothing. He's like a
34:05
pushover on this interview. He's the worst isn't. He doesn't have
34:08
one journalistic inquiry. It's all dough. That's what they
34:12
found. Oh, and his jaws dropped. Oh, that's terrible. What else
34:16
did Washington Post discover?
34:19
Adam Curry: That was PBS news hour? Yeah, I'm gonna take the
34:23
line. I'm gonna take a look at who's
34:25
John C Dvorak: this supporting them. I can tell you right now I
34:27
did this research. Okay. Pfizer is nowhere to be found. In fact,
34:31
Pfizer is so obviously missing, that I'm very suspicious about
34:36
this reporting the whole thing, whatever the case is. No, you
34:41
won't find it. You can't find a connection to put this was just
34:45
kind of a reverse negative native ad on the air, but it's a
34:50
totally disgusting product and they should be ashamed of
34:53
themselves. But here we go. Got three. So that
34:55
Unknown: was the prescription side. But then there were other
34:57
physicians who were spreading false false and misleading
35:00
statements about vaccines and masks and treatments, saying
35:05
things like equating the COVID vaccine to needle rape or needle
35:09
unary rate a rate. Wow. And that was one Idaho pathologist who is
35:16
under investigation in Washington State. Or saying that
35:20
ivermectin if you take it, it, it's up to 90% effective in
35:24
getting rid of the disease. These are blatantly untrue. And,
35:29
but what happened is that they would fill the vacuum out there
35:33
on social media, a lot of people wanted to know, remember, during
35:36
the pandemic, there was a lot of confusion. A lot of people
35:39
latched on to these conspiracy theories, these ideas that would
35:43
march into the hospital ER is demanding these medications
35:47
were their actual harms that came from these untruths and
35:52
prescriptions. I think
35:53
what the disciplinary documents show us is that Doc, some
35:58
doctors would prescribe these unproven treatments to people.
36:04
And then days later, the person died.
36:08
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. This is well, you know, that's all
36:13
ramping up. I mean, that's obviously what it is.
36:16
John C Dvorak: But it has a little bit to do with Robert F.
36:18
Kennedy, Jr. to Oh, yeah, sure. Makes sense. He's got the goods
36:23
on this ivermectin stuff. And there's been plenty of
36:25
documentation you have and you still have Peter McCullough,
36:28
they can't, you can't push back on him too much. But they want
36:31
to have him on a show like this. So they bring this woman on
36:34
who's really just a kind of a handling or a professional
36:39
rabble rouser, and bring him who's just just can't. He's
36:44
just, he's just all in on the whole thing. This is a very end.
36:47
But when they put the picture of the ivermectin and the horse on
36:51
the screen, that was it for me that the PBS is no good. They're
36:56
no good. Let's go on with the next clip.
36:59
Unknown: Now, they died, whether that was a direct linkage, or if
37:04
it was, if they were going to die from other causes. It's not
37:07
that clear, but we do know that they were prescribed this
37:10
medication, and then they died. And then you have to think about
37:13
the delayed opportunity costs, right. So if I am prescribing
37:17
you some quack medicine, and that prevents you from going to
37:21
get a vaccine or antiviral that could actually prevent you from
37:24
getting serious disease or dying, dying. Well, you know,
37:29
you figure it out.
37:30
Adam Curry: Beautiful, you'll figure
37:32
Unknown: it out, figure it out. But if you're dying,
37:34
Adam Curry: dying.
37:35
John C Dvorak: Okay, so we have the fifth clip and have a bonus
37:38
clip. So this will wrap this up,
37:40
Unknown: because it is not illegal, quote, unquote, to off
37:44
press to off label, prescribe something right
37:47
off label is something that doctors do all the time. And
37:49
that's their that's the right, that's their medical judgment.
37:51
But what we have here is doctors prescribing medications that are
37:56
way outside medical consensus, you know, it's not like, Okay,
38:00
this might work. It's, and this was done after the Centers for
38:05
Disease Control and Prevention, and the Food and Drug
38:07
Administration expressly warned against doing this because of
38:12
potential harm.
38:13
Your reporting also shows that not only are these oversight
38:17
boards, overtaxed and have a myriad set of different rules
38:22
governing them, but also some states are taking specific steps
38:26
to make it harder for them to do their jobs specifically about
38:28
this issue.
38:29
Exactly. So already you have the state medical boards that are
38:33
underfunded under Resources, you know, they have their hands
38:35
tied, right. Then you have state legislatures or attorneys
38:39
general who say, Oh, you know what, you guys, you don't have
38:43
the authority to discipline any doctors if they're prescribing
38:46
ivermectin or hijack hydroxy use drugs specifically. Yes, those
38:50
specifically
38:51
mean so one of The Washington Post's really a tremendous
38:53
investigation. Thank you.
38:55
Adam Curry: Thank you, man. Oh, tremendous investigation. just
38:58
tremendous. The actor you mentioned was Daniel Dae Kim
39:02
from last
39:03
Unknown: here is a treatment protocol I followed as
39:06
prescribed by my amazing doctor. It was what's called a drug
39:09
cocktail, which means it's a combination of different drugs
39:12
consisted of Tamiflu, which is an antiviral the antibiotic
39:18
azithromycin, more commonly known as a Z Pak, a glycol pie
39:24
relate inhaler, that was used to ease breathing and the
39:27
inflammation that's commonly associated with COVID. And
39:30
here's what I consider to be the secret weapon.
39:32
hydroxychloroquine
39:34
John C Dvorak: There you go. He hasn't worked. And the thing is,
39:37
of course, these doctors are trying to treat people instead
39:40
of following the rule of law, just let him die and put them
39:44
on. They put Okay, now now I've tried to figure out this when
39:49
you can't get the goods on are there think I could find there's
39:52
a here's an interesting clip where she was interviewing Fauci
39:56
and, and it's all about getting money, money, money, money,
39:59
money, and this is Clip is called just a WaPo, Fauci on C,
40:04
and she was on C span. So she's brought on C span, to do this
40:07
sort of thing that come in and ask questions
40:09
Unknown: borrowed money up to now. So there's not been a
40:12
significant slowdown. That's not the issue. The issue is if we
40:16
don't get the money very soon, all of the things that I have
40:20
been leading up to, we're not going to be able to bring to the
40:23
goal line.
40:23
So can I follow up with that? Dr. Fauci So, if you don't get
40:27
it very soon, then what is your drop dead? If you are going to
40:30
go into phase one at the end of August, early September, you
40:33
can't wait until early September to start fate. You know, you
40:37
have to be preparing for phase two now. Was your drop dead? Or
40:42
is it going to be in another month? Or what?
40:44
So good question. The first of all, let me just say that the so
40:47
called Drop Dead point is really different for the development of
40:51
a vaccine and what we do and different for what Oh, hold
40:54
John C Dvorak: on, hold on. Wait, hold on, stop the clip.
40:57
I'm sorry. That's a clip from 2016. And they're talking about
41:02
getting money. $1.9 billion for Zika.
41:07
Adam Curry: Ah, you're doing the same dirty tricks I'm doing.
41:12
Very funny, Mr. Devore ech. Well, then, let's talk about
41:19
other off label medication. Because you know, it's okay.
41:25
When it's really out in the open and Big Pharma and you can, you
41:28
know, everyone just agrees it's, oh, what a wonder drug. Let's go
41:31
on every single show and let's just say ozempic It's fantastic.
41:36
It's for it's for diabetes, but it's okay. Don't worry about it.
41:40
You can use it to lose weight for your high school reunion or
41:43
don't really do it for that. But yeah, you can do it.
41:45
Unknown: The makers of two of the most popular weight loss and
41:47
diabetes drugs are facing a major lawsuit over claims about
41:51
potential side effects.
41:55
Adam Curry: I'm not a doctor, but I think I've been warning
41:56
for a year about this
41:58
Unknown: CBS agenda Chamberlain has the details.
42:03
In game changers in the world of weight loss, the Jay Z Olympic
42:07
and Manjaro delivering big results, generally without
42:11
dangerous side effect generally, but a lawsuit found today
42:14
against manufacturers Novo Nordisk, and Eli Lilly claims
42:17
otherwise, saying the drugs can cause stomach paralysis.
42:21
Something they claim happened to their client, a 44 year old
42:24
Louisiana woman who took the drugs for type two diabetes and
42:28
weight loss the wait for
42:30
it problems have been so severe that she's been to the emergency
42:33
room multiple times, including last weekend. She's actually
42:37
even thrown up so violently that she's lost teeth.
42:42
Stomach paralysis can be a sign that's a good one. These which
42:49
the drugs are commonly prescribed for RIA hand who is
42:53
not involved in the lawsuit has had similar issues with those
42:56
unpick the
42:57
stomach pain was just unbearable and I just couldn't keep
42:59
anything down. I would have I would drink something and within
43:03
minutes like 510 minutes later, I would be throwing it right up.
43:07
No wonder it
43:08
works so well. For Weight Loss. More than 40% of Americans are
43:11
obese and demand for the medications has soared. They
43:14
aren't cheap. A one month supply can cost more than $1,300. But
43:19
now the University of Texas System says it will end
43:22
insurance coverage for the FDA approved weight loss drugs will
43:25
go V and six Ender haha
43:27
Adam Curry: notice they're not ending it for everything this is
43:30
this is what this game is about. Now, the game is now about who
43:33
is going to continue coverage who's going to continue to pump
43:36
money into these pharma companies
43:38
Unknown: search for the FDA approved weight loss drugs with
43:40
govi and six Ender in September. Other employers are increasing
43:45
the copay amount. Some consider the moves a setback, as obesity
43:49
has only recently been treated as a disease by many health
43:52
plans. Instead of a lifestyle trends. There
43:55
Adam Curry: is your key. It's a disease. You're sick, it's like
44:00
a brain disease. It's disease you can't help it. It's not your
44:03
fault. Since it's
44:05
John C Dvorak: not your phone know how you could get a report
44:07
like that because I have a report on the same topic with
44:13
Dr. Jenn he's America's favorite doctor. on Good Morning America
44:18
three on Good Morning America three. Yeah, yesterday.
44:24
Adam Curry: Yes. And And is she saying that people are throwing
44:28
up there? They're throwing up teeth, puking eyebrow?
44:31
John C Dvorak: No. Here it is. Dr. Jenn sorry,
44:34
Unknown: Dr. Jane. Let's talk Medical News. And apparently
44:35
there's a brand new study off it's talking about the popular
44:39
drug we go V it's been FDA approved for weight loss. But
44:42
now researchers are finding that it also has significant heart
44:45
health benefits.
44:46
So let's go through this. Now this partial luminary data not
44:49
yet peer reviewed or published released by the drug
44:52
manufacturer. But it shows what we've known about other drugs in
44:57
the same class these GLP one agonists take a look at what
45:00
they found they looked at 17,000 overweight and obese adults 45
45:04
years of age and older with a diagnosis of heart disease. What
45:07
they found is a major reduction in the risk of cardiovascular
45:11
events like stroke heart attack by 20%. Among people taking this
45:16
drug that drugmaker does plan to request approval beyond that of
45:22
obesity, as early as the end of this year, hopefully then
45:26
insurance coverage may follow. And why is that important is
45:29
these drugs are incredibly expensive, at least $1,000 per
45:33
month for the weekly injection if you're paying out of pocket,
45:36
sometimes closer to $1,300 a month. And remember CDC data,
45:41
the heart disease, the number one killer of men and women in
45:44
this country. So anytime you can expand the FDA into
45:48
Adam Curry: what happened to smoking, whatever the smoking
45:51
being the number one killer of men and women in this country
45:53
smoking call. They're angry one
45:55
Unknown: killer of men and women in this country. So anytime you
45:58
can expand the FDA indications for a medication to include
46:02
reducing risk of heart disease, heart attacks, that's a big
46:05
deal.
46:06
You're board certified in obesity medicine, how do you
46:09
hope that this impacts the conversation? I mean, around
46:13
these drugs and weight loss?
46:15
I think it is so important as someone who's board certified in
46:18
obesity medicine, there has been such a backlash in society
46:22
against these class of medications that is based on
46:25
stigma, not science. These drugs have a role for people who are
46:29
overweight and obese. It is not as simple as eating less and
46:33
moving more for those people and again, saving lives as an
46:36
endpoint. That's the goal.
46:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah, did you notice that she's board
46:40
certified in obesity medicine, as was mentioned by the host,
46:45
and then by herself, so I looked up the board for obesity
46:49
medicine. It's a rinky dink operation. It's like it's it's a
46:55
cell. It's like you take a test once a year and you get this
46:58
certification to the whole operation is
47:01
Adam Curry: it's like a ham ham radio license.
47:04
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's exactly like like a tech, a tech
47:07
license.
47:08
Adam Curry: A tech license. Yes, I
47:09
John C Dvorak: get tech license. And the board itself the whole
47:12
budget as a whole board is like 1,000,005
47:15
Adam Curry: Obesity medicine, how about you know, healthy
47:17
living,
47:18
John C Dvorak: I mean, some American Board of obesity
47:21
medicine? Well, somehow they do and I couldn't get any connector
47:25
when there is some funding that is Miscellaneous funding of a
47:28
million dollars, which is most of their budget, and then the
47:31
rest of their funding comes from the people taking the tests yet
47:34
to pay to take the test. Then you get your certification, you
47:37
put your A B whatever obesity medicine letters out, your name
47:42
is bullshit.
47:44
Adam Curry: So there's a lot going on people in this and I
47:47
think a lot of this is meant to cover up what the news really
47:51
is. Turbo cancers. You're hearing this everywhere,
47:55
myocarditis, heart damage? Well, I'm not saying it's it's not
48:00
causation, but correlation, one out of 35 COVID. Vaccinated
48:04
people have expressed some form of myocarditis heart damage
48:09
this, and that's a real study. This one is a in an extraction
48:18
of studies, but I'm just going to quote it as if I know what
48:22
I'm talking about. The various data is crystal clear. That's
48:26
the vaccine adverse event registration system. The COVID
48:30
vaccines are killing an estimated one person per 1000
48:33
doses. And my favorite and this is from this was actually from
48:39
where did this one come from? I gotta click on the link because
48:42
it's some official study. wiley.com So it's published.
48:48
Conclusion mRNA 1273 vaccine associated myocardial myocardial
48:54
injury was more common than previously thought, being mild
48:58
and transient and more frequent in women versus men. This
49:02
warrants further study. So there's a lot of study going on
49:06
a lot of things that aren't quite adding up with safe.
49:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and I mentioned something here just in
49:12
passing. That Leno's son woman, was the one who pushed the
49:17
notion in articles in The Washington Post, pushed the
49:20
notion of hey, you got your Johnson and Johnson in a
49:24
booster? Oh, yeah, get an mRNA vaccine to sell her.
49:32
Adam Curry: ozempic and Wigo V are courting black leaders
49:36
seeking Medicare Medicare's favor. Because you know, black
49:41
people have diabetes far more often and diet and obesity far
49:45
more often than any other color American. So they're trying to
49:48
get some money out of that. And there's a new drug and maybe
49:53
this is part of it. scientists develop wonder drug that could
49:58
make people skinny no matter how many calories of junk food they
50:01
eat.
50:04
John C Dvorak: God dysentery.
50:06
Adam Curry: It's called puke and ivory. I don't know. So that's
50:10
on the way. But there is also a new, a new COVID variant lurking
50:17
new data
50:17
Unknown: from the CDC that shows COVID hospitalizations increased
50:21
during the last week of July. And this comes as tracking
50:23
reinfections of the virus continued to wane after the
50:26
public health emergency ended in May. ABC News Medical
50:30
contributor and epidemiology epidemiologist Dr. John Brown is
50:34
joining us now for more. So thank you so much for being with
50:36
us Dr. Brownstein and those hospitalizations, they went up,
50:39
you know, 12.5%, during the end of July, compared to the week
50:42
prior. So, realistically, how does that compare to the peak of
50:45
this pandemic?
50:46
And do we need to be concerned?
50:48
Yeah, well, well, Tina, we do have to be concerned to a
50:50
certain degree and be vigilant. And we are seeing a lot more
50:53
people around us getting COVID. That being said, those numbers
50:56
still remain incredibly low. If you put into perspective, you've
50:59
seen about 9000 weekly hospitalizations, we had about
51:03
150,000 during the height of the Omicron peak. So still such a
51:07
small fraction. And we haven't seen any changes in deaths. So
51:11
there's there could be reporting delays. A lot of these
51:14
increasing cases are related to this new variant, the EG five,
51:18
but it's really descended omachron. So our existing
51:20
treatments, or tests or vaccines all work. So yes, we should
51:24
watch these numbers and be concerned. But overall, this
51:27
isn't a big change in the pandemic.
51:29
Adam Curry: Now this e g five, I think it's eg 5.1. It's almost
51:34
like a new version of Microsoft Office. So what version you have
51:38
5.1 It has a nickname.
51:41
Unknown: Something else that's not ending soon, the pandemic
51:45
times two, the multiple new variants of COVID-19 report say
51:49
a new COVID-19 variant is spreading quickly in the UK. It
51:54
goes by the name of Eris, how fast is this variant spreading?
51:58
And how little is it? Our next report explores?
52:02
A new COVID variant is on the proud proud, it goes by the name
52:06
of Eros, eg 5.1 and accounts for one in 10 COVID cases in the UK.
52:14
When was this variant discovered? How fast is it
52:17
spreading? And how little is it? Let's find out to start with.
52:22
When was this variant discovered? Well, Eris was
52:24
initially identified as a COVID variant only on 31st July, it
52:29
was discovered to be a sub gradient of the Omicron strain.
52:33
U ks health security agency said it was spreading at a rapid
52:36
pace. How rapid? What is the transmissibility rate of the
52:41
variant? Well, not many details are available about the
52:44
transmission rate of Ferris. But if we go by the surge in COVID
52:48
cases and hospital admissions in the UK, they indicate that
52:51
sitting back calmly won't really help. Just like other COVID
52:55
variants, this one too is likely to infect many, according to
52:59
reports in the week beginning July 10, approximately 11.8 of
53:03
UK sequences were identified. The data from August indicates
53:08
that this figure has climbed to what is some 14.6% of all cases.
53:13
So they're
53:13
Adam Curry: starting to give us all kinds of worrisome numbers
53:16
but Eris, I love this new nickname this error state, which
53:19
John C Dvorak: is cute. Can I ask you a question? technical
53:21
question. technical question. Yes. What's the difference
53:24
between a variant and a sub variant?
53:29
Adam Curry: I don't know.
53:30
John C Dvorak: This is a sub variant that he said it was a
53:33
variant. Well,
53:34
Adam Curry: Eris is a variant of a variant. So it's a variant of
53:39
John C Dvorak: but aren't all the variants a variant of a
53:41
variant? Well, technically, they're variants of various that
53:44
aren't
53:44
Adam Curry: various variants, but I'd like it when they named
53:46
the sub variant of a very Yeah, it's got at least as Ms.
53:49
memorable one is Eros and Eris is not hard to look up e ri s.
53:55
Harris is the Greek goddess of Strife and discord.
53:59
John C Dvorak: Well, isn't that special, it's kind of
54:01
appropriate.
54:02
Adam Curry: Her Roman equivalent is Discordia, which means the
54:05
same Eric's Greek opposite is Harmonia that we need a drug
54:10
called Harmonia, we need a vaccine called Harmonia who did
54:14
Harmonia to combat eres mi See, there you go. That's it. So I
54:23
just did they name that on purpose like
54:27
John C Dvorak: I've got I gotta yeah, there's always some joker
54:29
in the group there that
54:31
Adam Curry: there's a couple of things here.
54:33
Unknown: Let me Oh, good.
54:34
Adam Curry: Let's see. Let's go to NBC see what they're saying
54:37
about Eris as
54:38
Unknown: summer winds down COVID 19 cases rise again artists time
54:42
a variant called eg point five commonly called Eris is
54:46
spreading across the state. Southwestern North Korea common
54:50
John C Dvorak: heard of this second common commonly called
54:53
anything because
54:54
Adam Curry: the memo went out it's common now it's common.
54:57
Stop making waves podcaster
55:00
Unknown: I've commonly called Eris is spreading across the
55:03
state and southeastern North Carolina New Hanover County
55:07
Health Director John Campbell says that's consistent with the
55:10
numbers they're tracking.
55:12
So we have seen some trending upwards in the wastewater
55:14
surveillance, which is one of our key indicators looking at
55:17
COVID numbers, this is
55:18
Adam Curry: this is the new thing and we saw this coming of
55:20
the wastewater, which they will just gonna say our prediction
55:24
has always been that this wastewater analysis was going to
55:29
because they can do it down to the block, and they're gonna
55:31
start locking people in their apartment blocks. You got too
55:35
much COVID And you poop so you guys you got you can't get out.
55:38
Unknown: Another thing that we look at is hospitalizations or
55:40
emergency department visits.
55:42
The CDC says positive COVID tests and hospitalizations have
55:46
continued to grow in the last week that could lead to some
55:50
worries for parents with the new school year quickly approaching.
55:52
Yeah, Campbell says parents shouldn't stress
55:55
I don't want this parents to necessarily be overly concerned
56:00
for anything but more aware.
56:02
Given the advancements in COVID prevention and treatment. He
56:05
believes parents should take the same approach to keeping your
56:08
family safe as they would for any illness close
56:11
Adam Curry: the schools.
56:12
Unknown: Number one keep your child healthy and as well as
56:15
they can. Any routine childhood vaccines that they need, should
56:19
be offered those. Certainly if individuals are feeling unwell,
56:23
I would recommend that they see a primary care provider and
56:26
consider for consideration of COVID testing or other
56:29
respiratory virus.
56:30
Further reminder that even though the pandemic may be over
56:33
COVID is still around. It's still
56:35
Adam Curry: around. Let's go to CBS mornings Dr. Celine gounder.
56:39
Let's talk about it. It's time to bring it up or something we
56:42
Unknown: haven't talked about in a while that C word this in this
56:44
case means COVID
56:46
Adam Curry: Wow, that's so cool. It used to mean cancer, Gail.
56:49
But now let's to see what who comes up with this script? Who
56:53
decided that was a good idea?
56:55
John C Dvorak: Because I always thought it meant something else.
57:00
Wow, there you go.
57:02
Adam Curry: No, I think when you are talking to a doctor and
57:05
someone says let's talk about the C word you got cancer.
57:08
That's the first thing you think about. I understand when you say
57:12
gipsy Gail you think of something else but yeah, and but
57:16
but this is now a wordplay we're talking about COVID COVID get
57:19
it?
57:20
Unknown: There's something we haven't talked about in a while.
57:21
That C word this in this case means COVID I saw something on
57:25
the news the other day that just said COVID is going back up a
57:29
How much should we worry about? I'm hearing that there's a new
57:32
booster coming out who should get the booster booster isn't
57:36
going up? You know when I saw a news?
57:38
Adam Curry: Oh no, not again. A few weeks ago a friend of mine
57:40
got COVID before any so brought a friend of yours got COVID
57:47
That's the word was and he had
57:49
John C Dvorak: it before did you ever get a booster was he
57:51
boosted a few weeks ago a friend of mine got COVID really had it
57:55
before and he said he's feeling okay.
57:58
Adam Curry: He boosted as he boosted is he boosted is he
58:00
boosted is he boosted is he boosted
58:03
Unknown: boosted Yeah it kind of shocked us. Yeah. Shocked to see
58:07
was boosted. Wow, we even talked about it while
58:09
we're certainly seeing in fact, I just hadn't seen it up to
58:12
hospital. Well, I'll get to that. So certainly, I saw a
58:17
patient who was relatively young like COVID It was in the
58:19
hospital, not vaccinated.
58:21
Adam Curry: Ah see, Oh, you made a mistake. Why? Why did you even
58:26
interrupt the introduction? We won't talk about that now
58:30
because he was boosted because my story is about someone a
58:33
young patient of mine who was in the hospital, which we all know
58:37
that the vaccine prevents you from dying and entering the
58:42
hospital of severe illness.
58:44
John C Dvorak: That's my strongest vaccine. But that's
58:46
what it does. That's
58:47
Adam Curry: that's my story.
58:48
Unknown: So just because you've been infected does not mean you
58:51
have full protection, we're still seeing much higher rates
58:53
of hospitalization and death for that matter among people who
58:56
remain unvaccinated.
58:58
Adam Curry: Whoa, this is simply not true. This does not fit any
59:02
evidence, anecdotal or factual. People who have been boosted are
59:07
getting COVID 2345 times.
59:12
Unknown: Are we seeing an uptick? Well, it really depends
59:15
on how you look at the numbers. We have seen a 10% increase in
59:18
hospitalizations over the last few weeks. But 10% of a very
59:22
small number is still a very small number.
59:27
Math so the booster at it.
59:29
Everyone's six months and up can get the booster if they want to.
59:33
But the groups again that most needed are the groups I
59:36
mentioned earlier. So the elderly, pregnant women, people
59:41
who have immunosuppression, chronic medical conditions,
59:44
especially harder lung disease, and people who live in nursing
59:47
homes or other groups.
59:48
But if you're not in that group, do you think you don't really
59:50
have to get it? That's what I'm trying before.
59:52
Really? That's really up to you. Okay, so some people feel more
59:56
concerned. You know, are you the person who gets the flu shot
59:58
every year you're probably going to want to get the COVID shot
1:00:01
you know, if you've already been fully vaccinated, it's less
1:00:04
important for that. Okay, young healthy group.
1:00:06
Adam Curry: I've mentioned flu shot last year. Yeah. Now we're
1:00:09
not going to talk about the flu shot, but we are going to go
1:00:11
back to this. Now we already did that one didn't we did the now
1:00:15
we did the local report. It's all there just it's starting to
1:00:18
ratchet up, but it's just what it is. Get it go and get
1:00:22
everyone starting. Don't get scared, you know, throwing some
1:00:25
RSV and I'm going to play those clips. But the thing that
1:00:29
bothers me the most still is this alpha gal a lot of people
1:00:32
have been doing research of it keeps coming back that alpha gal
1:00:36
house has been used in multiple vaccines as an adjuvant, so the
1:00:44
it's just very, very annoying. And so, you know, let me see, I
1:00:49
have under the Alpha gal what I have here I have a couple of
1:00:52
stories, but it ties into something new. Hey guys says one
1:00:59
of our boots on the ground reports I got a wild hair about
1:01:02
this alpha gal stuff came across a few things that struck me as a
1:01:05
little odd. I found that the only FDA approved GMO mammal for
1:01:10
human consumption is the gal safe pig.
1:01:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they genetically engineered a pig
1:01:18
Adam Curry: to remove Alpha gal from its cells. Which would mean
1:01:23
that if you have alpha gal allergy, you could eat their
1:01:26
pig. which by itself is a little annoying. Yeah, it's called
1:01:32
Marketing. It is then what is this one? Bill Gates funded
1:01:39
research into genetically engineered cattle ticks. And now
1:01:44
of course we have half a million Americans who have allergies
1:01:47
from Alpha gal syndrome caused by tick bites. But then then
1:01:55
this lab pops up in the news in the UK and Porton down. And BBC
1:02:02
News says Can this laboratory notice my pronunciation? Can
1:02:06
this laboratory help stop the nips in the next pandemic? Yes,
1:02:10
the Guardian calls it the new vaccine research center in the
1:02:13
UK to help scientists prepare for disease X just like Planet X
1:02:23
is right disease x
1:02:25
John C Dvorak: I think that that's been slipped in because
1:02:28
they're considering Elon Musk a disease
1:02:32
Adam Curry: well we heard about disease X on our replay a little
1:02:36
bit of this on Davos radio that is the World Economic Forum
1:02:40
Podcast.
1:02:42
John C Dvorak: Passagen know now as disease x the virus. We don't
1:02:46
know why. I was just mumbling disease X
1:02:50
Unknown: yet, but we do know is out there.
1:02:53
Welcome to radio Davos, the podcast from the World Economic
1:02:55
Forum that looks at the biggest challenges and how we might
1:02:58
solve them. This week. The next pandemic is a matter of when not
1:03:02
if so how can we all prepare for disease x,
1:03:05
we can actually gain a lot of knowledge know ahead of time by
1:03:10
something that doesn't exist yet
1:03:12
a new book called disease x.
1:03:14
Adam Curry: So we've got a book we got the W E F talking about
1:03:18
on the podcast. So they're ramping it up and then all of a
1:03:21
sudden in the UK Porton down, was it wasn't another down that
1:03:26
has a laboratory that was in trouble in the UK, hundreds of
1:03:29
years ago.
1:03:31
John C Dvorak: didn't ring a bell. Yes,
1:03:33
Adam Curry: it was important with some other down or downs or
1:03:35
something anyway. So then I find this little ditty on Sky News,
1:03:42
talking where they interviewed some people from from this
1:03:45
laboratory, where they hope that they can detect and prepare and
1:03:51
be ready for disease X when it comes listen carefully.
1:03:54
Unknown: In some of the most secure labs in the country,
1:03:57
scientists are already preparing for the next pandemic is just
1:04:01
called disease X for now, because nobody knows for sure
1:04:05
which virus will cause it. But that is Porton down complex. The
1:04:09
UK health security agency is scanning the horizon for threats
1:04:13
and starting work on vaccines just in case,
1:04:16
what we're seeing is a rising risk globally. Now some of that
1:04:20
is because of things like urbanization, where you may get
1:04:24
species jumping, sir virus jumping from as we've seen with
1:04:27
bird flu into humans, some of it is because of climate change. So
1:04:31
this is a growing risk agenda. But then it's one that we can
1:04:36
use our science actively to prevent human impact.
1:04:39
Adam Curry: Okay, so we're already setting up some of this
1:04:42
is because of climate change, it's all going to tie together.
1:04:45
Remember we discovered a very horrible disease spreading with
1:04:51
a 30% death rate. Do we remember it cchf
1:04:57
John C Dvorak: By do yes, Crimea.
1:05:00
Adam Curry: Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever,
1:05:04
John C Dvorak: hear something like that. Now. Now watch. Let's
1:05:06
Adam Curry: tie it all together.
1:05:08
Unknown: It took a little under a year to develop the COVID Jab
1:05:11
the target for a vaccine and the next pandemic is just 100 days,
1:05:16
bird flu, monkey pox and other animal viruses capable of
1:05:20
infecting humans are being closely monitored. One early
1:05:23
success is a potential vaccine against Crimean Congo
1:05:26
hemorrhagic fever, it's spread by ticks, but the fatality rate
1:05:31
first 2% is found in Europe
1:05:33
Adam Curry: and its hold on a second. Crimean you got your
1:05:38
there's your Ukraine, Congo, as you say Congo, Congo
1:05:44
Unknown: moving early success is a potential vaccine against
1:05:47
Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fear
1:05:49
Adam Curry: Congo, a Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever, spread
1:05:54
by tick is spread by ticks. But come on. They're setting us up
1:05:58
for this. Because we know you can get all kinds of horrible
1:06:03
meat diseases from ticks. So it must be real. It's not in the in
1:06:07
the vaccine. No, it's from a tick it's from the lone star
1:06:09
tick. So now the cchf the Crimean Ukraine, Crimean Congo
1:06:17
hemorrhagic fever spread by ticks
1:06:19
John C Dvorak: is nothing there's definitely a connection
1:06:21
between Crimea and Congo. Yeah.
1:06:24
Adam Curry: And and there's a benefit for
1:06:26
Unknown: Tennessee right around 30%. It's found in Europe and
1:06:30
it's moving north with climate change,
1:06:32
Adam Curry: and it's moving north with climate change.
1:06:34
John C Dvorak: Wow, they're doing a great bit here all put,
1:06:38
Adam Curry: they're slamming it all together. We got Ukraine,
1:06:41
John C Dvorak: they gotta get Trump in the action.
1:06:43
Unknown: That's why they're trying to get ahead and clinical
1:06:46
trials underway.
1:06:48
John C Dvorak: Got another job.
1:06:51
Unknown: Not quite sure what that is. But it
1:06:53
is bird flu that currently tops the list died
1:06:56
Adam Curry: and they're going to go back a bird flu now. Bird Flu
1:06:59
is no good. I like the CC H F. Spread by tick moving north
1:07:04
because of climate change. And they're studying and they're
1:07:10
studying this under the guise of disease X. Come on. This is
1:07:15
great. This is fantastic.
1:07:18
John C Dvorak: I think the people are fanatics. This is
1:07:20
terrible. Well,
1:07:22
Adam Curry: I think it's a We should be strung up.
1:07:24
John C Dvorak: I think it's gonna happen. I
1:07:27
Adam Curry: think it's a winner. It's a winner. It's a big
1:07:30
winner. No one's going to be strung up. Except us.
1:07:35
John C Dvorak: We're going to be feeling Yeah, I don't think so.
1:07:37
I
1:07:37
Adam Curry: got it. I got a great email. I won't even read
1:07:39
the whole thing. But you guys are Zionist traitors. Traitors.
1:07:46
You will be exposed as a scumbag shields that you are. After the
1:07:52
revolution right for being Zionist chills. After the
1:07:55
revolution you'll be watch after the revolution you will be
1:07:59
forced into penury, scumbag penury, what's penury?
1:08:06
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I always used to know what know
1:08:09
what I think I know what it means. But I don't have a
1:08:11
definition at the top of my my tongue. Let's look it up.
1:08:15
Adam Curry: Okay, well, that's it. Elsa, this guy anonymous, of
1:08:22
course. sent me
1:08:25
John C Dvorak: some some chicken shit creep.
1:08:28
Adam Curry: You guys don't talk about the pee neck. And so I
1:08:32
went to pee neck project for New American Century because their
1:08:35
vaginas. They're the ones that run the country that want to
1:08:38
kill us.
1:08:39
John C Dvorak: Oh, those. We've talked about that. We talked
1:08:42
about that group like 10 years ago to an extreme I know. And so
1:08:46
I put a bunch of neocon jerk offs. Yeah.
1:08:49
Adam Curry: And I put it in into bing.io. And I come up with
1:08:53
like, 50 episodes where we discuss
1:08:55
John C Dvorak: specific Yeah, so this guy was he's email him
1:08:58
Boni.
1:08:59
Adam Curry: And then he comes back phony, he's a phony.
1:09:01
There's a phony. But if there is
1:09:05
John C Dvorak: one definition, I can't I'd have to abstain as
1:09:08
shown go get batteries from my keyboard. Oh,
1:09:12
Adam Curry: the Desiree. Oh, the definition of penury. I can look
1:09:16
that up. Now. Are you getting you have to go downstairs and
1:09:19
get these back? Yes,
1:09:20
John C Dvorak: I have to go downstairs. I usually have a
1:09:22
couple up here but I can't find them
1:09:24
Adam Curry: stay by penury state of extreme poverty or
1:09:27
destitution. Yeah, destitution. Well, we're not even that far.
1:09:32
What are you talking about?
1:09:33
John C Dvorak: Well, that's because we're podcasters
1:09:36
Adam Curry: Okay, go ahead. I'll pause everything for a moment.
1:09:39
Sorry. Some time later. Yes, batteries installed.
1:09:46
John C Dvorak: Yes. But the joke is on me in the meet in the
1:09:50
interim I had dug around thinking that because I usually
1:09:54
keep spare batteries up here. I find a couple in the cup. I put
1:09:57
him in in work you just gave you just you know I I put him in a
1:10:02
theater, I stopped the show, and left and came back to put the
1:10:05
new batteries in and I opened that compartment and the two
1:10:09
batteries that I had put in, were both in the same direction.
1:10:12
I didn't put them in correctly. So I had already solved the
1:10:16
problem in advance of having to stop everything to get batteries
1:10:20
because the battery had batteries.
1:10:21
Adam Curry: I go through the show checklist before I start
1:10:24
the show.
1:10:26
John C Dvorak: No, no, this was no the batteries that were in at
1:10:29
the beginning were put in properly, but they went
1:10:31
Adam Curry: dead. I know. But I put in fresh batteries every
1:10:34
show. No, you don't tell I don't but it sounds good.
1:10:39
John C Dvorak: Anyways to do that these days, okay, you'll
1:10:42
shoot your TV. Yes, no tech. So they used to have a guy there
1:10:46
who was always he was one of those guys, most broadcasters
1:10:50
this way. They changed the batteries and everything.
1:10:54
Before, every every day
1:10:56
Adam Curry: in the mics, especially in the wireless mics.
1:10:59
Yep,
1:10:59
John C Dvorak: everything's changing. These are big bucks.
1:11:01
And they take to use batteries. And I put them in a giant box.
1:11:04
And instead of throwing them out, they let employees take
1:11:07
them home. So I take home these batteries.
1:11:09
Adam Curry: You are the cheapest guy I know. Know,
1:11:13
John C Dvorak: what am I going to do? Why should I be buying
1:11:15
batteries when there's all these batteries. And so I would bring
1:11:19
boxes these batteries home. And then one day they fired the guy
1:11:23
of course because they had to let go. First they do the way
1:11:26
Adam Curry: that battery budget was out of control. That's why
1:11:28
the budget was
1:11:29
John C Dvorak: out of control. That guy's gone. So now that let
1:11:32
in the battery. So old battery. So the course on my show. The
1:11:36
batteries go dead.
1:11:40
Adam Curry: I can just see it happening. see it happening? Oh,
1:11:44
good. Anyway, well, while you were mucking around there looked
1:11:48
up the definite, there was a new definition I want to tell you is
1:11:51
very disturbing that pretty much all dictionaries have changed.
1:11:58
And this came up at home because Tina was talking about something
1:12:01
being decimated. And it's very hard for me even though it's a
1:12:04
dickish thing to do. It's hard for me to not say you know, I'm
1:12:09
decimate x I mean we kind of means like 10% out of 10 one out
1:12:14
of 10 No, I'm gonna say well, yeah, because it comes from
1:12:20
Nope. And I go,
1:12:22
John C Dvorak: if you can break the word down DESA is 10. Yeah.
1:12:26
Adam Curry: But all the dictionaries have changed this.
1:12:31
They've all changed it. No, I didn't know that. Yes, they have
1:12:34
all changed it. In fact, Merriam Webster gives a worst.
1:12:40
John C Dvorak: The worst is so far is changing at a drop of a
1:12:43
hat explains
1:12:44
Adam Curry: regarding the incorrect uses of decimate it is
1:12:47
totally, totally fine to use decimate as a synonym for
1:12:51
devastate. And then they explain why because you know, people
1:12:54
started using it incorrectly and now it's correct. Which does but
1:12:58
that's the way it works. Yeah. Definition of Musa is probably
1:13:02
because it rhymes with devastate. Yeah, but still, I
1:13:05
mean, it's,
1:13:06
John C Dvorak: I agree, but you can't, you know, shove it's like
1:13:09
peeing in the wind.
1:13:10
Adam Curry: How about the Cambridge dictionary? Cambridge.
1:13:13
John C Dvorak: Well, if you go to the Oxford English
1:13:15
Dictionary, I really doubt as change Oxford English, does
1:13:20
definition
1:13:21
Adam Curry: of decimate. Let's take a look. That's the big boy.
1:13:25
That's the big boy.
1:13:26
John C Dvorak: That's the big boy.
1:13:29
Adam Curry: Okay, decimate, oh, they even have a handy little
1:13:32
pronunciation. Let's hear decimate. decimate, number one
1:13:38
to kill large numbers. Oops. Can you believe it? Number two,
1:13:47
severely damaged or make something weaker? This is crazy.
1:13:52
John C Dvorak: This is over. It's over for our little nerdy
1:13:56
debate.
1:13:57
Adam Curry: We're just wrong now.
1:13:59
John C Dvorak: We're wrong wrong. It happens. And with
1:14:03
Adam Curry: that, in all of our wrongness I'd like to thank you
1:14:06
for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put
1:14:08
the seat into circular psychiatry ladies and gentlemen
1:14:11
say hello to my friend and the other one and only Mr. Johnson
1:14:17
John C Dvorak: Well, in the morning you Mr. M. curiosa. In
1:14:19
the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground feeding the
1:14:22
subs and the water in all the dames a nice
1:14:26
Adam Curry: morning. Hanging out. drawers. Stop. Wait, no,
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I'm trying to go down to the
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trolls are absent 1919 today. I mean, I know it's better than
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the 1800 but it's not the 20 to 22,000 we
1:14:46
John C Dvorak: had the other day. It was 2200 was outrageous.
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Ya know they've all burned.
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Adam Curry: They jumped in the in the ocean. So now it's 1990
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Podcast? apps.com? Or,
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Adam Curry: we use all of the features all of them including
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The trolls out do whatever you want. But this is this is the
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There you go both gang you know, boots on the ground reports from
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I mean, I got some good ones. Got some really good ones coming
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up was just crazy. So trans mile was the boots on the ground, Big
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Pharma boots on the ground. Oh man should have done that
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earlier. Actually, let me do this now. Since this is the
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information along with the Powerball number coming up in a
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bit. The sort of in this is boots on the ground anonymous, I
1:18:27
can offer some insight into the conversation on 1578 about
1:18:30
drugs, as his brother is a recently reformed heroin addict
1:18:34
who lived on the streets for approximately five years in the
1:18:37
St. Louis area. Man five years on horse can you believe that?
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And congratulations reformed. He's off it he lives. Over that
1:18:46
time period. He witnessed the available drugs going from
1:18:49
straight heroin which he started using to heroin being cut with
1:18:52
fentanyl to pretty much everything on the street being
1:18:55
fentanyl. And at one point, I asked him the question that you
1:19:00
posed on the show is Why do drug dealers knowingly push fentanyl
1:19:04
when it can pretty much be a death sentence? And this is I
1:19:09
think you and I both agree like what drug dealers wouldn't do
1:19:12
this? Why do they want to kill their customers? The answer will
1:19:18
surprise you. His answer enlightened me to the nature of
1:19:21
the problem. I think it speaks directly to what you were saying
1:19:23
on the show. He told me that's exactly what the drug dealers
1:19:27
wanted. He said as soon as word on the street one out that
1:19:31
someone died from a batch that he someone was selling sales
1:19:35
would immediately skyrocket. The users would flock to get the
1:19:39
most powerful stuff imaginable even at the risk of death. How
1:19:45
about that? It's the sales
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John C Dvorak: vary slightly but not completely counterintuitive.
1:19:51
It's a sales technique. It's like the same thing with it.
1:19:54
You're always like harp on about the cigarettes. Yeah, with
1:19:56
Adam Curry: the poison and every puff. I'll give me another one.
1:19:59
Hey, You got some gangrene Oh yeah, I'll trade you for my pack
1:20:02
of heart disease he did say that he told me directly the
1:20:09
possibility of fentanyl killing someone would absolutely raise
1:20:12
sales for that drug dealer or that corner imagine all the
1:20:16
zombies my good stuff over a year he did also say that the
1:20:24
law enforcement often put stuff into cuts it up with certain
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types of of compounds such as he thinks Trank may have started
1:20:34
this way so they can track a whole drug line. Study I guess
1:20:39
Interesting. Yeah, I could see that. Thanks. Thanks, DEA.
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Anyway, that's your beautiful little special donation I think
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John C Dvorak: it's got something to do with the
1:20:48
arrogance of the addict. You have to be rather Oh, that
1:20:53
killed Joe. That guy's a lightweight.
1:20:55
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's pretty much that's got to be some good
1:20:58
stuff. I can handle that. Yeah,
1:21:00
John C Dvorak: yes. Yeah, I mean, I'm not Joe, there's a
1:21:02
weenie?
1:21:04
Adam Curry: Well, I'm not gonna be so cavalier because any kind
1:21:07
of addiction is horrible. And these are our brothers and
1:21:10
sisters who are addicted on the street so I'd rather see them
1:21:14
not be that way. Anyway, so you can get value for value from
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out fastest turnaround time in the West I would say and they
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completely failed completely failed on the last episode in
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fact we had to go to the evergreens to pick up the no
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agenda read book which was an evergreen are placed in the
1:22:00
evergreens by Gus not also knows see Keifa ski fast kefir not
1:22:07
quite sure how to pronounce pronounce it escapes. Because we
1:22:10
we just could not find anything appropriate for for the show. I
1:22:17
mean, looking at what was submitted a lot of rainbow gay
1:22:21
stuff. Yeah, no buts from comics, blogger, ya know? We
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came very close to using Francisco Scaramanga see drone
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Why did we not use that there was stuff wrong with it was
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wrong. Why did we not use that
1:22:41
John C Dvorak: pillow? Was it
1:22:42
Adam Curry: the rubber rubber ducky in the boat?
1:22:45
John C Dvorak: Oh no, that's yeah, I liked that one.
1:22:47
Adam Curry: Why didn't we use it?
1:22:50
John C Dvorak: You had some complaint about it? Oh yeah, I
1:22:52
think well it's aI let's start
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Adam Curry: oh no that you said that AI it's aI let's not do it.
1:22:58
It's aI you said you become the AI police
1:23:02
John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't mean to Yeah,
1:23:03
Adam Curry: well that's that's what's happened.
1:23:07
John C Dvorak: But you're the one that you have the rule I
1:23:09
don't have the rule I don't mind but your eye and I liked that
1:23:12
ducky. The rubber ducky also the one I ended up using for the
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newsletter is I thought looking back on it I think is a nice
1:23:18
pieces. And it's very atypicals the no agenda show from Sir Joe.
1:23:25
Central Park refugee camp. I thought that was a nice piece.
1:23:28
So we looked
1:23:29
Adam Curry: at that, but you couldn't even see the word
1:23:31
refugee camp. I mean, it's it's
1:23:33
John C Dvorak: pretty. It's pretty. Yeah, it's bits. But
1:23:36
it's good newsletter present. It's a nice piece. It's very
1:23:39
well thought out. I mean,
1:23:40
Adam Curry: these pieces can be used for all kinds of it's like,
1:23:42
correct the record did gay in the air with the rainbow flag,
1:23:45
but we're just not going to do that. We have gay listeners. We
1:23:48
have trans listeners producers, I should say. Don't have to go
1:23:52
out of our way to insult them.
1:23:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we insult him just naturally. Yeah.
1:23:57
Adam Curry: You know, you got Zelinsky we're on a gay
1:23:59
postcard. We don't need to do that. We're not actually
1:24:02
homophobic or transphobic. And it's like
1:24:07
John C Dvorak: and then cutting the hot dog I think is a bit
1:24:09
much comic strip longer.
1:24:14
Adam Curry: He had a lot had a lot of a lot of weird things.
1:24:19
Um, no agenda to on a donkey show tomorrow. Lizzo I mean, you
1:24:23
know, no,
1:24:24
John C Dvorak: it is see the donkey show one.
1:24:25
Adam Curry: It's the marquee. Another correct record.
1:24:28
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1:24:31
Adam Curry: All although I will say Donkey Kong should have
1:24:35
bought the blog with two butts. I mean, okay. It gives us a
1:24:39
laugh when we're looking for some something serious. But it
1:24:42
just wasn't there. You know, and it was sad. So let me see people
1:24:46
are already uploading new stuff. We'll have to see how that goes.
1:24:48
But we appreciate the effort. But we're just going to be
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honest. We're going to tell you artists when when it's good, and
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when it's no good. That so we're returning value for the value
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you're returning for the value we're providing, which is how
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1:25:03
listen to it whenever you want as often as you want. You can do
1:25:06
anything you want with it pretty much. People used to make CD CDs
1:25:10
and distribute them. Randall is a business. I'm still finding
1:25:16
CDs in my house. I have boxes of these things hanging around
1:25:21
John C Dvorak: random to your machine. So they get transcribed
1:25:24
a Wm. MV or mp3. It's
1:25:27
Adam Curry: all the same. It's all no agenda show CDs. Oh,
1:25:33
yeah, it's
1:25:33
John C Dvorak: no agenda book that we picked up in the
1:25:36
Evergreen has disappeared from the site.
1:25:38
Adam Curry: What do you mean? No, I'm sorry. What do you mean
1:25:42
is disappeared?
1:25:43
John C Dvorak: I can't find it.
1:25:44
Adam Curry: It was an evergreens. Yeah, I'm
1:25:46
John C Dvorak: looking at evergreens now. And it's not on
1:25:48
page one. It's not a page to
1:25:50
Adam Curry: what it's, it's, maybe it was moved. Let me see.
1:25:56
I mean, you click on it from our show notes, you find it. So
1:26:01
maybe it was because it one that it then got moved to some other
1:26:06
spot.
1:26:08
John C Dvorak: I think it's under accepted art. Okay, so it
1:26:11
got moved. So it got removed? Yeah. But none of the other
1:26:14
pieces ever disappear from where they were from?
1:26:17
Adam Curry: Well, once it's been used, it's no longer an
1:26:19
evergreen now, is it? I think it's a good policy.
1:26:22
John C Dvorak: Oh.
1:26:25
Adam Curry: Thank you very much. Gus. Not? scraper. Thank you
1:26:30
very much. And thank you to Chad F was Chad F. And I think one
1:26:35
other person sent me a couple of Redbook links from Yeah, let me
1:26:43
see Chad F and the M M, W, whatever M w as a weird was that
1:26:52
M W doesn't even have anonymous. They're the only ones who sent
1:26:56
me a couple of links, not enough to make a show for a red book
1:26:59
prediction show. So if anyone still wants to do that, get your
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links in now. Go to being a.io and find your favorite red book
1:27:07
prediction or discussion. And people love this piece of art
1:27:11
though. They said hey, if that was a real book, I'd buy it.
1:27:13
Which immediately gave me exit store. We
1:27:15
John C Dvorak: can do that. Right? The ideas?
1:27:17
Adam Curry: Yes. Now let's thank the people who are kind enough
1:27:20
to give us some treasure which of course we need to pay the
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bills and that comes in the form of executive and Associate
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Executive Producers kicking off today with Cassandra fare. I
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think mvhr Richmond, Texas $1,000 Right off the bat. Boom
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Insta, but not for her. For my husband's knighthood. He just
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told me that his two favorite jingles are rebels are out. And
1:27:45
Obama's 18 John, do you have any idea what Obama's 18 is? I could
1:27:53
not I could not come up with that. I
1:27:55
John C Dvorak: saw that I couldn't figure it out either. I
1:27:57
Adam Curry: just grabbed another random Obama thing if you don't
1:27:59
mind. If you could please add them to the D douching. We gotta
1:28:02
give you a dee doo dee doo thank you on behalf of Sir Mopar of
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Fort Bend County Texas from Cassandra What a beautiful wife
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she's
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Unknown: in the standby 3333 33 or otherwise are out. The
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sciences the sciences on a political
1:28:36
John C Dvorak: a good combo by itself. Yeah. Thanks Brian
1:28:39
Watson, Sir Brian Watson in San Martin, California who's usually
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shows up in their $50 donations week after week for show after
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show her month after month. He comes with $1,000 Boom and he's
1:28:53
Yeah. And he says ITM this donation is for my smoke smokin
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hot wife. Connie. Today she's turns to big 33 We have a lot of
1:29:04
people that always turn 33 on this show. It's Kellyanne, it's
1:29:07
true. All she wanted for a birthday was to sit at the round
1:29:10
table on the best podcast in the universe. So that's what she'll
1:29:13
get nice. She'll need to write in with her official Dame name
1:29:17
next time. This is happy birthday.
1:29:20
Adam Curry: This is a surprise big surprise as well. So we're
1:29:23
not going to name her today until we find out what her Dame
1:29:26
name will be. But we will give a birthday list she's on the
1:29:29
birthday list.
1:29:30
Unknown: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
1:29:32
Adam Curry: And a biscuit on your birthday. Happy birthday.
1:29:35
Now. Red Pill rabbit has a silver donation John has the No
1:29:41
Do we receive some pieces of silver?
1:29:43
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and this is the problem and I have to go
1:29:45
over this problem gave us coinage but it's nothing like
1:29:51
collect it's not numismatic valuable coinage
1:29:56
Adam Curry: what is it? Just a lump it like an old like as well
1:29:58
as for example, give
1:29:59
John C Dvorak: us Five Canadian $8 silver coins, which is an
1:30:03
ounce and a half of silver.
1:30:05
Adam Curry: I can already I can already hear you're annoyed by
1:30:08
this somehow
1:30:09
John C Dvorak: clunky, clunky. And then he gave us 2020
1:30:15
American produced one ounce silver coins will have an eagle
1:30:19
on one side and pretty much nothing on the back is kind of a
1:30:23
blank area and some writing. What does that coin 20 ounces
1:30:28
and seven and a half ounces about 27 and a half pounds,
1:30:32
which is about 630 $623 at $23 An ounce plus it, I'd say a 20%
1:30:40
new ms Matic multiplier, which is typically what you get if you
1:30:45
have an not collectible coin, but it's a coin, it usually is
1:30:48
worth 20% More than the silver value, which brings it to around
1:30:51
700 Wow, to 750 bucks. Wow. So that's my my calculation recruit
1:30:57
calculation. But I you know, if I took him over to a shop to
1:31:03
dump them on the market, I think we'd get about 600 to 650. So
1:31:08
but he can take credit for 750 that's who I see Oh, that's
1:31:11
Adam Curry: very kind of you. Now you're going to take them
1:31:13
over to the shop and say well, I
1:31:15
John C Dvorak: here's what I here's what I'm thinking you
1:31:16
have to want. I can send you your half of the cones but
1:31:20
they're not super collectible. But but I'd say you want at
1:31:24
least one I think we should both keep one of the $8 Canadian
1:31:28
Silver's because there's just stupid. If you don't mind you'll
1:31:35
coin if Canada they're worth about 42 to $43 apiece. Oh
1:31:40
interesting. And it says $8 and I will make a coin for eight
1:31:44
dead with $8 on debts worth $43 It's just dumb.
1:31:48
Adam Curry: That must have a name. There must be a name for
1:31:50
that coin.
1:31:50
John C Dvorak: Well, this one is the it's called the $8 silver
1:31:53
coin. You can look it up but this was the one with the silver
1:31:55
fox on it. So this is a silver fox $8 Silver Canadian coin.
1:32:03
Adam Curry: Would you mind? Do you mind just sending me the
1:32:05
silver? I like keeping that
1:32:08
John C Dvorak: you went to silver? Yeah.
1:32:10
Adam Curry: Is that okay? Do you mind? Okay. I mean, yeah, I
1:32:14
think I just like the silver. I think it'd be kind of fun.
1:32:17
John C Dvorak: Tomorrow we'll talk about how to do this
1:32:19
specifically is a pain in the ass? To be honest about it.
1:32:23
Well, yeah. But we'll see when we run into it. Okay, we'll
1:32:27
figure something out. Do you like to silver and it's
1:32:30
untarnished. The coins are the Canadian coins are all beat up.
1:32:33
They look like hell. But the coins are kind of cool.
1:32:37
Adam Curry: So for some reason, I'm just learning that the Obama
1:32:39
18 Jingle is this one.
1:32:41
Unknown: There's a need for rescue mission. When the world
1:32:44
is threatened. The world needs help.
1:32:54
Adam Curry: And that's the story. That's funny. She meant a
1:32:57
team. She heard a team. She heard 18 Oh, wow. That's great.
1:33:08
I even I didn't catch that.
1:33:09
John C Dvorak: Well, Amy. Yes. She's she's probably in her 30s
1:33:13
or 20s. Late 20s. She never saw the A team.
1:33:16
Adam Curry: What? How old is her husband?
1:33:19
John C Dvorak: 30 threes birthday wasn't he the birthday
1:33:21
boy. There you go. No, that's the birthday girl for from Brian
1:33:25
Watson. Anyway, I don't know. Who knows.
1:33:27
Adam Curry: I don't mind having the coins. I like him. I like
1:33:29
keeping the coins.
1:33:30
John C Dvorak: Okay, anonymous in Bozeman, Montana is up with
1:33:33
467 Hey guys, I signed a fresh new contract now with 15% More
1:33:40
compensation so I figured what better time to send over some
1:33:44
treasure and finish off my knighthood please do me search.
1:33:48
Touchy put push, sir touchy push the night of the Gallatin County
1:33:54
Fairgrounds. Which I'm sure he's known by that name there too. In
1:33:59
honor of the prolific drinkers of Western Montana. I'd like to
1:34:02
bring breakfast beers. You do that in Denmark to and pork
1:34:08
chops, sandwiches, or Sandoz to the round table like everyone
1:34:14
else. I thank you deeply for the work you do as a man who deeply
1:34:18
enjoys being correct and saying I told you so. The no agenda
1:34:24
show gives me the tools I need to succeed at being a blasted
1:34:28
parties salute.
1:34:30
Adam Curry: The douche of the party, obviously. Thank you
1:34:34
brother sir. Wire 3333 Our favorite New River Arizona. Adam
1:34:39
and John please extend my sincerest best eight eight
1:34:41
wishes to John and Mimi. That's right on 88 is 35 years ago you
1:34:47
too were wet wed to holy matrimony. Now where did you get
1:34:53
married?
1:34:54
John C Dvorak: We got married at Community Church. On on I'm the
1:35:01
corner of MYRIN and Martin Luther King.
1:35:05
Adam Curry: Church still there. Yeah. Oh, nice 35 years
1:35:09
Congratulations man 34 Welcome and you're welcome.
1:35:14
John C Dvorak: Never had a white
1:35:16
Adam Curry: light so we'll have a lot of those eight eight
1:35:19
donations I'm Ha thinking we Dame jazzy and Sir Why have the
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hidden jewel share the same wedding anniversary of eight
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eight we happen to be celebrating our silver
1:35:28
anniversary 25 years 98 never had a fight send all my love to
1:35:34
the dame jazzy my smokin hot wife for 25 years and matriarch
1:35:37
of our three human resources and three grandchildren Hello 33
1:35:42
Thanks for pod making podcasting great again God bless an amen
1:35:46
fist bump to both of you and get mo nation jingles ya know and
1:35:51
respect plus karma to our eight families for a nother 25 years
1:35:58
sir wire and Dame jazzy have the hidden jewel I will also note I
1:36:02
discovered that August 8 It happens to also be dollar day
1:36:08
did you know this though yeah it's national dollar day any
1:36:15
observed annually since when was this since a while oh no just
1:36:25
popped up on my apparently the dollar has never been changed
1:36:31
the dollar well you know how the five and the 10 they've changed
1:36:35
a lot but the dollar had I don't think has changed much.
1:36:40
John C Dvorak: And when waiting for the big head dollar
1:36:44
Adam Curry: the big head dollar Yeah, well
1:36:46
John C Dvorak: they took the 50 to 100 the rest of them made a
1:36:49
big head never have to use to have big heads they had small
1:36:52
heads like the dollar and the two the twos also got a small
1:36:55
head of Jefferson now
1:36:57
Adam Curry: well the dollar apparently is not going to
1:36:58
change. Anyway we're gonna give you some some karma and those
1:37:02
jingles for you start with this year while you're saying
1:37:12
Unknown: no.
1:37:19
John C Dvorak: You've got karma serrania knights up at Milwaukee
1:37:26
Wisconsin at 333. And he says ITM August 10 is my first year
1:37:35
anniversary of returning to work after breaking my neck and
1:37:39
paralyzing myself five weeks prior in Hawaii. No. No jingles
1:37:45
no karma and thank you for your courage Sharanya night I hope
1:37:48
you're feeling better.
1:37:49
Adam Curry: Thank you. Dame Trisha Detroit comes in and this
1:37:54
is our first Associate Executive Producer 250 And she has a typed
1:38:00
note in the Morning John Adams meanwhile, so here's another
1:38:03
donation towards my husband's knighthood funds are finally
1:38:05
loosening up after both of our kids gotten married within a six
1:38:08
month timeframe. Love it when that happens. John I've got a
1:38:12
list of facts going for the show website as promised. I've I've
1:38:16
thought of several and there are a few more from my na social
1:38:19
requests for suggestions. We need to discuss these on the
1:38:22
phone. If you've got dictation do it today. If not on the phone
1:38:28
via email we'll also work please whitelist either both of my
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emails whitelist them John my attempts to email are always
1:38:35
bouncing back as blacklisted.
1:38:38
John C Dvorak: Oh, that can't be
1:38:40
Adam Curry: I asked you what did I ever do to deserve that?
1:38:44
joking of course Yeah, really? Send them to me send them to me
1:38:51
just send
1:38:52
John C Dvorak: them hand whitelist them
1:38:53
Adam Curry: seriously let's take care of this soon I'm sure folks
1:38:56
will appreciate it please give a shout out to our kids congrats
1:38:58
to Jenny and Michael and Patricia and Steven on their
1:39:01
marriages How about a little goat karma and some Shut up
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slaves to top it off value for value be well Dame Trish of
1:39:08
Detroit you've got karma
1:39:16
John C Dvorak: does Michigan women want to get things done?
1:39:20
Don't mess around and Bill Meanwhile in Greenville, South
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Carolina 246 dot nine This is my second time working in Area code
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1234 An area code 12345 There's an area code or is that a zip
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code?
1:39:38
Adam Curry: Must be zip code must be zip code
1:39:41
John C Dvorak: in a month so I thought I'd double John's
1:39:43
favorite donation number please give me a Dr. Kiki jingle thanks
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for what you guys do bear in it bill like Katie for a ca 73
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Adam Curry: Yeah 73 Is Quito five Shara Tango uniform Delta.
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Already. Science I think he's k zero or K ketones.
1:40:06
John C Dvorak: I say K.
1:40:07
Adam Curry: D, I think he's kilo K Oh, you said k d?
1:40:11
John C Dvorak: It did. Yeah,
1:40:12
Adam Curry: kilo kilo Oscar, I think. Then we go to Jonathan
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Fort Wayne, Indiana, Fort Wayne, Indiana. Man, those guys are
1:40:19
nuts. They're 231 is great. One
1:40:21
John C Dvorak: note is too long.
1:40:23
Adam Curry: In the morning, John Adams from FEMA Region number
1:40:25
515 80 marks the year when the Book of Concord was published,
1:40:29
which is a set of documents known as the Lutheran
1:40:31
confessions. And he has a little history of that the first time
1:40:34
ever heard of the existence of no agenda was from an Barnhart
1:40:37
blog post from June 25. Now before you give me a jingle,
1:40:44
it's not actually a Barnhart donation. Oh, I didn't start
1:40:48
listening to the show that summer. The men responsible for
1:40:50
finally hitting me in the mouth are Dan and Dave of the not
1:40:53
conformed podcast at not conformed dot show. Dan is a
1:40:58
professor of neuroscience at Davis, a Lutheran pastor.
1:41:01
They're brothers in Canada and they cover topics like
1:41:03
propaganda, psychedelics, youngin Jungin for psychology
1:41:07
and COVID. I started listening to not conformed in the summer
1:41:11
of 2021 when they started mentoring no agenda by name more
1:41:14
often. I decided to check you guys out in late summer realize
1:41:17
how similar the format was have a miss more than a couple of
1:41:20
your shows since to top it all off. Not conformed had a short
1:41:23
run of just 33 episodes. Oh. Oh, so I guess did they do the end?
1:41:28
They pod faded was too bad.
1:41:31
John C Dvorak: It's hard to do. To hide faded. Yeah, they pod
1:41:34
faded after 33. That's a shame. They sounds like they had a good
1:41:38
podcast. Yeah. People don't stick to it. That's the problem.
1:41:41
Adam Curry: It's hard. It's hard. Remember, there's 44
1:41:45
million podcasts out there. But every 90 days, only 400,000 of
1:41:50
them produce a new episode. Yeah, we do. Eight we're eight,
1:41:56
nine a month, like two a week of three hours minimum each.
1:42:01
Anyway, while I'm out I recommend the podcast a brief
1:42:04
history of power and a word fitly. spoken here just
1:42:07
promoting other podcasts. Apologize for my long note.
1:42:10
Thank you for your courage. Godspeed says Jonathan. Thank
1:42:12
you, Jonathan. We appreciate that.
1:42:15
John C Dvorak: Baroness Monica and Drayton Valley, Drayton
1:42:18
Valley, Alberta, Canada, where the money used to be. tu tu tu,
1:42:23
tu tu Happy anniversary, John and Mimi does like to request
1:42:26
some much needed health and healing karma for my nephew
1:42:29
Lance. Okay, thanks a lot. Baroness Monica.
1:42:33
Adam Curry: You've got karma. Scotland, Eva or Neva in
1:42:38
Livonia, Michigan 208 11 with a notes typed I'd like to thank my
1:42:43
buddy Dave T for hitting me in the mouth in 2019. I realized
1:42:47
with my family all listening to the show now that I live in a
1:42:49
house full of douchebags I would appreciate it deducing for
1:42:54
myself. You've been de deuced and would like to call out my
1:43:01
wife Michelle. Son Nolan. Especially my daughter Nora. As
1:43:10
douchebags can I get on the birthday list? 811 Thanks for
1:43:14
all you guys do. The show was both informative entertaining,
1:43:17
they never find an exit strategy. Any Biden gaff jingle
1:43:20
will do just fine. The idea is
1:43:23
Unknown: we hold these true self evident that all men and women
1:43:27
we ever lived up to completely but we've always widened the Ark
1:43:32
of commitment.
1:43:35
Adam Curry: It's kind of one of my favorites. What a douche
1:43:38
John C Dvorak: LZ talking about Notre Dame Beth in Tucson
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Arizona 2060 Boy yes Dame Beth we know Damon hi oh boy. 2x
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crown. Thank you for your courage Dame Beth
1:44:16
Adam Curry: All right, let's do the rain stick. We need it here
1:44:18
too. So I'm gonna I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a double with a
1:44:22
with a swirly twist to get some here because you know this fun
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John C Dvorak: thing to do a one flip I can't
1:44:26
Adam Curry: you have to do to. We do what we need to from you.
1:44:33
Because we didn't get any rain last time. I need you to do it.
1:44:36
We're on fire here. Okay, okay, here we go. 123
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Rain Yeah, let it rain Let it rain. Thank you Dane Beth, Tony
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health is in Fort Worth, Texas 234 and also has a note in the
1:45:06
Morning John Adam Nice nice. Very nice stationery with you
1:45:11
was that a golden bosta thing there around the edge in the
1:45:18
morning, John and Adam your shows have been terrific lately.
1:45:21
This is my annual switcheroo don't donate for my son Brian
1:45:24
house birthday. He turns 34 on the 10th Can I get some goat
1:45:28
calm for him? And a noodle guy?
1:45:31
John C Dvorak: It's like gold foil.
1:45:34
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, that's nice. That's nice. It looks
1:45:37
really good. And a noodle gun for my grandson Carter producers
1:45:42
if you are in the Yukon Mustang or more Oklahoma area, and
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craving some Juicy Fried Chicken stop into chicken Express. We
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would love to serve you keep up the good work guys. God bless
1:45:53
Tony house. Very nice. Thank you
1:45:57
Unknown: with the minutia.
1:46:12
John C Dvorak: That you mentioned it was a switcheroo
1:46:13
for Brian. Hal helps Yes,
1:46:15
Adam Curry: I read that verbatim. Okay.
1:46:21
John C Dvorak: Dan Richmond in Gainesville, Florida. I proudly
1:46:25
joined as an Associate Executive Producer. Two things. One does
1:46:32
Ricky wracked man, stand ready if you if you were to be unable
1:46:39
to fulfill your no agenda duties.
1:46:41
Adam Curry: Now that's just Dan being a dick. Kula hahaha,
1:46:46
John C Dvorak: too. I will donate more if you were
1:46:49
announced your use of the term hairband, which marginalizes and
1:46:54
otherwise legitimate art form of 80s. Hard rock music. Mega
1:47:00
dildos, Dan,
1:47:02
Adam Curry: allow me to respond to that. Well,
1:47:04
John C Dvorak: wait, hold on. This is Latin to me. I don't
1:47:08
know what he's talking about. But apparently
1:47:10
Adam Curry: you do. Yes. We were talking about Steel Panther. And
1:47:13
I said that they were doing basically doing a takeoff on 80s
1:47:16
and 90s. hairbands. Let me address a question one first.
1:47:21
Ricky Rachman was given my show the headbangers ball because he
1:47:27
came in and while the executives at MTV because his best friend
1:47:31
Axl Rose came along to help him do his audition. And so of
1:47:36
course, the weak weaklings, the the star, star suckers that they
1:47:42
were at MTV, whoa, whoa, with Ricky can get to Axl world and
1:47:46
we need to have them host the show. So it's just it's just
1:47:48
hurtful for him to say something like, Oh,
1:47:51
John C Dvorak: so you got booted because there's some some
1:47:53
gimmick? Yes. gimmick. Thank
1:47:55
Adam Curry: you. So to say, you know, will he be standing by to
1:47:59
fulfill your na duties if you're unable, as kind of mean? Oh,
1:48:03
that
1:48:03
John C Dvorak: is dickish dickish. out to his aid to a
1:48:06
desert. Kind of a nerdy dickish. Ricky he exactly to
1:48:13
Adam Curry: being a a participant in the
1:48:17
John C Dvorak: actual Oh, yeah, no, you're a
1:48:20
Adam Curry: real hard rock and metal. I mean, with the same
1:48:23
hair. You're the guy I am allowed. I'm fact I have
1:48:28
standing,
1:48:29
John C Dvorak: standing. I am
1:48:30
Adam Curry: the ambassador of the hairband era, which is I do
1:48:34
not use as a derogatory term. I'm very proud of being a part
1:48:39
of that. And I believe that all of my compadres in Bon Jovi in
1:48:43
poison in rat, I'll even put winger in there. I think. I
1:48:48
think every Whitesnake. I think they all would say yeah, man, we
1:48:53
were hairbands that does not does not detract from the
1:48:58
outstanding musicianship of the era. megadeal dos to you Dan.
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John C Dvorak: Uncle John's in Buffalo, New York. Another $200
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And he says gentlemen, again, thank you for your courage.
1:49:27
Please wish Dame Susan have the parkways the best mom in the
1:49:33
universe. Happy birthday today, August 10. From Uncle John, and
1:49:38
all your family and friends. Oh, how
1:49:40
Adam Curry: nice though. Like, oh, man. You know, Mom listens
1:49:44
to that stupid podcast. Let's let's at least give her a shout
1:49:48
out on that. Somebody you think that they're all listening?
1:49:52
Yeah. She is the best mom in the universe though. So they know
1:49:57
they know something. Maybe they're big listeners. The whole
1:49:59
household. Old to be Dame Janet Watkinsville Georgia. A
1:50:04
switcheroo. She says I won the drawing for our donation lottery
1:50:07
and at the inaugural suds and sanity Saturday at ochrony I'm
1:50:11
probably mispronouncing that, and must have been oh that we
1:50:14
have a report I think from that Georgia meet up brewery rather
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Oconee brewery There we go. Rather than getting associate
1:50:21
producer credit. I'd like this donation to be divided between
1:50:25
two great guys, Vic Harrison and Joe Stevens. This should remove
1:50:29
them from douchebag status and head them on the road to
1:50:32
knighthood. Well that means you've been de deuced That's
1:50:37
very kind of you. I've made that switch Aroo permanent Here we
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go. Boom. Thank you guys for all you do to keep us sane love you
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Dame Janet. Love you too. James Denton, Dame Jen, thank you so
1:50:47
much. It's very kind what you did there.
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such and if anyone ever questioned you'll be very happy
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to vouch for you. Thank you again for producing episode 1580
1:52:04
of the best podcast in the universe.
1:52:06
Unknown: Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the
1:52:11
mouth
1:52:25
Adam Curry: was a good segment. I liked what everybody had to
1:52:28
say there was good stuff people good stuff.
1:52:31
John C Dvorak: I agree. Good stuff.
1:52:35
Adam Curry: Well, do you want to do Africa
1:52:39
John C Dvorak: you know, Africa do list
1:52:41
Adam Curry: because I got some kind of funny after I mean, some
1:52:44
some clarifying Africa stuff. Let's put it that way. Because
1:52:48
they had there has been some there have been so much changes,
1:52:52
some things have been going on. And actually, I can give you a
1:52:57
little background because you know, the big question is what
1:52:59
are we doing in Africa? What are we doing there? Why is everyone
1:53:04
so excited about Africa?
1:53:06
John C Dvorak: I got a couple of letters from some of our
1:53:09
correspondent boots on the ground types and it's some
1:53:14
conflicting information that one thing that's kind of interesting
1:53:18
to me is that the guy the new dude that took overnight Niger
1:53:23
Oh, yes, I have some of the songs. He's an American train
1:53:27
guy. Well, there's there's two it's no coincidence.
1:53:31
Adam Curry: There's two new dudes actually. So we first need
1:53:34
to start with here we go. This is now the top what is the
1:53:40
official pronunciation of junta? Am I doing right junta?
1:53:45
John C Dvorak: You know, I believe if you look it up, you
1:53:47
can pronounce it junta or Giunta. But who does the way
1:53:52
we've always pronounced it traditionally in the United
1:53:55
States when we refer to Whom
1:53:56
Adam Curry: would the Cambridge dictionary be the one to ask? I
1:54:00
think
1:54:00
John C Dvorak: of Oxford English would be better put into the
1:54:03
Okay.
1:54:03
Adam Curry: junta. Ajanta in UK you can say Genta junta and in
1:54:07
the US. You can say Quinta, Quinta.
1:54:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's it got to Priya. I've always felt
1:54:12
it had to pronunciation okay.
1:54:14
Adam Curry: Anyway, let's first talk about or let's listen to
1:54:17
some information about the guy who, who led the junta and I
1:54:23
must give an appropriate Warning. Warning. AMY GOODMAN
1:54:27
flippin bound
1:54:31
Unknown: by Nick Turse, investigative journalist
1:54:33
contributing writer for the intercept recently revealed one
1:54:36
of the leaders of the coup in new shear the Brigadier General
1:54:38
Musa Sallu bamu, was trained by the US military recently met
1:54:43
with the head of US Army Special Operations Command, Lieutenant
1:54:47
General Jonathan Braga, at the US drone base in Israel. African
1:54:52
officers trained by the US military have now taken part in
1:54:55
11 coos in West Africa. Gonna start there, Nick, if you can
1:55:02
explain what's taken place in the last week, and particularly
1:55:07
the US connection to the coup leaders.
1:55:13
Adam Curry: Yes. Thanks so much for having me on me. By the way,
1:55:16
this guy is from the intercept. And I think, you know, the
1:55:20
intercept still being a Pierre Omidyar drive my car. Don't go
1:55:25
too far outfit. I think that he is here on Amy's democracy now
1:55:30
to express a certain message. Yes. Thanks so much for having
1:55:34
me on me. He's also very boring.
1:55:37
Unknown: You know, as you said, the United States has trained a
1:55:42
number of cool leaders in West Africa over recent years. Nice
1:55:46
little lifestyle. And this is part of the UN Security
1:55:49
Strategy. I mean, they've flooded this region, the West
1:55:52
Africans to hell, with a tremendous amount of security
1:55:55
assistance, really, since 911. They poured a tremendous amount
1:56:00
of security assistance dollars into the region. They've built a
1:56:05
plethora of small us outposts. You mentioned one of them, the
1:56:09
US drone base Agadez. You know, they've built up militaries in
1:56:15
the region at the expense of building up civilian
1:56:18
institutions and civil society, and this US security assistance,
1:56:23
US counterterrorism paradigm really hasn't been successful
1:56:28
over this time.
1:56:29
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what I disagree. I think he's full of
1:56:31
crap. This is exactly what was supposed to happen. We've had
1:56:35
people leave liberal even questions in the in the Senate
1:56:38
or the House of Representatives about this, Hey, all the guys
1:56:41
that now that we trained, they go on to do coos in these
1:56:44
African countries. There's a reason for that, which we'll get
1:56:47
to but let's solidify that this that there's western influences
1:56:51
in this coup. By looking at the new prime minister, the junta
1:56:57
has appointed cliches
1:56:59
Unknown: military coup leaders have announced the appointment
1:57:01
of a prime minister. In his statements read out on national
1:57:05
television on Monday evening, Ali Mohamed Lamine Xin was
1:57:09
announced as prime minister. The announcement comes at a time
1:57:13
when the international community is seeking to restore
1:57:15
constitutional order. I mean, Zane is not new to the office or
1:57:20
girlfriend's positions in Asia and he had been cabinet director
1:57:23
in 2001, then finance minister in 2002 to 10 around a chaotic
1:57:29
economic and financial situation. The latest
1:57:32
appointments from the core leaders also included that of
1:57:35
the commander of the presidential guard. It also
1:57:38
comes a day after the expiration of ECO ASSIST ultimatum to
1:57:42
restore President Mohammed Bazoom to office.
1:57:45
Adam Curry: Okay, so they bring in a banker, a banker, could you
1:57:49
figure he was born in 1965 graduated from the Center for
1:57:55
financial, economic and banking studies in Marseille and Paris.
1:58:00
So when you hear Prime Minister This is not some spear chucking
1:58:03
dude down there. This is an elite. He has worked as a
1:58:07
resident representative of the African Development Bank in
1:58:11
Tchad. Ivory Coast and Gabon This is a banker they've brought
1:58:17
in the banker. They're they're open for business this is this
1:58:21
is not a this is no coincidence what's going on here, but it's
1:58:25
okay. Let's pretend it let's just let's do our best and see
1:58:29
if we can make it look like we have nothing to do with this.
1:58:32
Where is she? Where in the world is Victoria Kagan Nudelman.
1:58:37
Unknown: outside Nigeria SENIOR UNITED STATES diplomat has
1:58:40
visited and Ajay to push school authorities to restore
1:58:44
democratic rule after overthrowing President Mohammed
1:58:47
Muslim last month. USA is acting Deputy Secretary of State
1:58:51
Victoria Nuland revealed she held Frank and difficult talks
1:58:56
with military leader Musa Salou, Bumble and three harvest
1:59:00
Cornell's in Aegis capita in the army. This visit makes it the
1:59:05
first tree by US official to the country since the cool on the
1:59:09
26th of July, Miss Nolan further revealed that, though requests
1:59:13
to meet with Mr. Baza and self proclaimed head of the military
1:59:16
government after Ramin tianni were denied. She reaffirmed our
1:59:21
country's commitment to a negotiated solution to the
1:59:24
conflict. Recall that the US State Department had on Monday
1:59:27
confirmed he had made direct contact with the cool leaders
1:59:31
and have stressed the need for President Bassam to be
1:59:34
reinstated. And this is coming after military leaders ceased pa
1:59:38
in the landlocked West African country on the 26th of July
1:59:42
detailing President bosom sparking international
1:59:46
reactions.
1:59:47
Adam Curry: Okay, so Newland, it might not even have gone there's
1:59:51
no pictures. There's no no tarmac video of her none of that
1:59:56
which she's usually pretty good at doing that all of our deploy
2:00:00
maths are but okay, so I guess she did go and oh, it's been
2:00:03
very tough and they wouldn't let me talk to anybody. But Victoria
2:00:05
Nuland does not go somewhere not to get a meeting. This is not
2:00:10
the type of woman she is not the type of whatever she is
2:00:14
diplomat. And of course, I was well aware of the trans Saharan
2:00:17
gas pipeline, the T s GP, although I didn't necessarily
2:00:22
think this was a pipeline play until I realize that this
2:00:27
pipeline, which is supposed to bring natural gas to Europe, is
2:00:33
operated by China. Now we're getting into your territory,
2:00:38
John, now things start start to make sense. And right away,
2:00:44
European natural gas prices explode 40%, higher. Europe,
2:00:50
you're being screwed by America and Russia. We are literally
2:00:55
scrolling you over. Yes. Because this thing was supposed to start
2:01:00
delivering the amid this year. I'm not sure exactly where
2:01:04
they're at. But you know, if China was running that thing?
2:01:08
Oh, well, no, no doubt, of course, we're gonna have to stop
2:01:11
that. But I found a good minute and a half explainer. But I love
2:01:15
that term explainer from this outfit on YouTube called
2:01:19
business basics. This just gives you a little bit of a background
2:01:23
of why we need to stop China from doing all this stuff in
2:01:27
Africa.
2:01:28
Unknown: China has been eyeing Africa for decades now, as
2:01:32
growth and China's longer, the CCP realized that taking over
2:01:36
Africa was the solution. That's because Africa is expected to
2:01:40
become a powerhouse in the coming decades. When you think
2:01:44
about global superpowers, countries in Africa are the
2:01:47
first ones that come to mind. As the superpower, you need to have
2:01:50
a huge economy, a powerful military, and a lot of
2:01:55
international influence. Not a lot of African countries have
2:01:58
these things yet. But a few decades from now, this is going
2:02:02
to be very different. In 2030 42% of the world's young
2:02:07
people will be living in Africa. By 2050. The prediction is that
2:02:12
more than a quarter of the entire world's population will
2:02:16
be African countries like Nigeria, Ethiopia, Egypt, or
2:02:20
Congo will have one big advantage over the coming years.
2:02:24
They're huge populations. While the rest of the world is
2:02:28
struggling with low birth rates and rapid aging, African
2:02:32
countries will experience exactly the opposite. Their
2:02:35
populations will be extremely young, and it will be growing
2:02:39
rapidly. Just think about it. Italy only has 1.24 births per
2:02:44
women. While Nigeria's birth rate sits at a whopping 5.31.
2:02:50
These demographics will shape the 21st century, you may have
2:02:54
guessed this already, but this population growth is creating a
2:02:57
huge economic opportunity. In fact, it is so important that
2:03:01
today's super powers are fighting for influence in the
2:03:04
continent.
2:03:05
Adam Curry: So the way I see it, and by the way, Europe, you're
2:03:07
not alone, because the American people are also getting screwed
2:03:10
by the bankers and ruling elites. They flipped the script.
2:03:15
Instead of Bill Gates going to kill Africans with the vaccines.
2:03:18
They're killing us with the vaccines now. So you know, it's
2:03:22
like, it's a lot easier. You go into Africa, you train a guy a
2:03:26
little bit of a coup, no problem, we come in, we kick up
2:03:29
the Chinese, well, maybe we get the Russians to play along, and
2:03:33
we give the vaccine the death shots to the Americans. There
2:03:36
are and we make the kids cut off the genitals and we don't need
2:03:39
you. We know from the former New York banker, the only way to
2:03:42
success is by growing your population. And so America is
2:03:48
still doing that in the United States by having open borders
2:03:50
completely wide open. And Africa Well, I think there's they're
2:04:00
gonna let them grow. I think they're stopping the you know,
2:04:05
let all the young African maybe let some of the Africans come to
2:04:08
America maybe. I think a lot of them already are there are
2:04:11
John C Dvorak: a lot of Africans coming across the southern
2:04:13
border along with Middle Easterners and everybody in
2:04:16
between so we may have
2:04:17
Adam Curry: a trade this transition period but we
2:04:19
certainly don't want Americans running the show. We want
2:04:22
obedient people obedient workers. I'm channeling my inner
2:04:28
George Carlin now for some reason. We want obedient workers
2:04:32
keep just healthy enough to push the buttons and fill out the
2:04:35
forms. And that may be the whole strategy they've got bankers in
2:04:43
there. They've got the military running well they
2:04:45
John C Dvorak: also the Coos of taking place across the country.
2:04:49
If you look at the cool map to the Kusu map Oh, I
2:04:53
Adam Curry: like that the cool map Yeah,
2:04:54
John C Dvorak: it's across the ties right it's a it's like
2:04:57
forms a belt. Yep. From from east to west for east to west
2:05:00
has like in Niger was the one that was not in the belt, it
2:05:04
became the belt buckle.
2:05:06
Adam Curry: Ooh, the night the night Niger belt buckle.
2:05:10
John C Dvorak: And so you have this cuts off trade from the
2:05:14
South to the North. You can't get there from here. I mean, you
2:05:17
could ship stuff, but that's inefficient when I like it.
2:05:21
Straight over, but now the southern Africa has been divided
2:05:25
into two sections that Northern and the Southern with a belt in
2:05:29
the middle. Yeah. And, and I don't know what the what what
2:05:33
the strategy is to be. I'm following what you have to say.
2:05:36
And I'm done trying to. I'm not sure what the whole I understand
2:05:40
all the you know, the craziness going on here and the trans
2:05:45
movement and the rest of the Maoism everywhere. I still can't
2:05:48
put my finger on something. There's something missing. I got
2:05:51
a note from a guy who blames you know, the long essays pretty
2:05:55
good one on defected the Africans what the whole idea is
2:06:00
to is getting them to do with us as they're trying to kick us
2:06:02
out. And even though I'm not convinced, I'm not buying it
2:06:08
with the US and Russia being in collusion, which is impossible
2:06:12
to fathom.
2:06:13
Adam Curry: And while they're still playing, playing some of
2:06:16
the Russian card actually I do have one report. This is from
2:06:22
Turkey, radio and television,
2:06:24
Unknown: a call for help from an increasingly isolated military
2:06:27
junta in Nigeria. The SOS is to Wagner, and it's something
2:06:31
experts said was likely soon after the coup took place.
2:06:34
Especially after Wagner's chief offered backing soon after the
2:06:38
presidential God sees power. It gives them another opportunity
2:06:42
to oh, this
2:06:43
Adam Curry: is interesting. So this is a consultant. Her name.
2:06:48
I forget, oh, what is her name? Her name is Annalise Barnard.
2:06:54
She is from the strategic stabilization advisors, which is
2:06:58
part of some rinky dink NGO, which of course is funded by us
2:07:02
AI D. And she shows up now all of a sudden, giving her
2:07:06
strategic opinion. But listen carefully to what she said after
2:07:09
the
2:07:09
Unknown: presidential God sees power.
2:07:11
It gives them another opportunity to step in and get
2:07:14
paid for their services and make themselves relevant again,
2:07:17
because after what happened a few weeks ago and Russia,
2:07:21
obviously there has been a huge question mark about what is the
2:07:24
relevance of the Wagner group who actually controls them and
2:07:27
what is their role in participating and or influencing
2:07:31
global politics?
2:07:32
Adam Curry: I think it's pretty clear what this is. This is
2:07:34
remarketing the Wagner group. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, it was
2:07:38
clear the Wagner group they're there to blame. Don't look at
2:07:41
us. Don't look over here. Look over that. Look at the Wagner
2:07:43
group boy up a golden hotdog boy, yeah, he's in charge of it.
2:07:47
Evil, she literally saying, Oh, we're gonna It's just rebury
2:07:50
positioning, rebranding remarketing. There, then it's
2:07:55
going to it's going to unfold before us. We're going to we're
2:07:58
going to know soon enough exactly what the plan is. But I
2:08:01
John C Dvorak: think our job is to figure it out before it
2:08:03
happens. And it's going to be hard. But I but I think so too,
2:08:07
because it's a big country. But then that is not a country as a
2:08:11
continent.
2:08:12
Adam Curry: But Europe was clearly planning on this natural
2:08:15
gas pipeline to be the new the new inflow, had to replace Nord
2:08:22
Stream, and that is now effectively been thwarted. So
2:08:27
that's cut off at right at the belt buckle. And I It feels like
2:08:32
we're involved. I mean, we're right there. It's our guy doing
2:08:36
it. We got another banker in there to be the prime minister.
2:08:41
John C Dvorak: When is Europe gonna get a clue? Oh, please.
2:08:44
They can't figure out that. Hey, they're getting screwed here.
2:08:47
Oh, my
2:08:47
Adam Curry: God. Europe is so
2:08:50
John C Dvorak: screwed. Yeah. Well, you're gonna be in Europe
2:08:53
next week. Yeah, we'll be bringing screwed reports. And I
2:08:57
want to hear actual boots on the ground reports from you when you
2:09:01
talk to just the general public. So we leave
2:09:03
Adam Curry: tomorrow, and the first show will be from the
2:09:07
Netherlands and that will be on Sunday. Actually, do you want to
2:09:10
start an hour earlier? You can say no, but
2:09:16
John C Dvorak: I can do it. Wow. That sounded so like I do. Do I
2:09:23
want to? Okay, we'll discuss
2:09:25
Adam Curry: because otherwise I don't start until 8pm. And so
2:09:28
it'll be one in the morning by the time I get to bed after
2:09:31
postproduction.
2:09:34
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, it might cost your coin
2:09:38
Adam Curry: I have an $8 Canadian silver coin. Will that
2:09:41
work?
2:09:43
John C Dvorak: Did you look it up by the way the coin
2:09:45
Adam Curry: No, I have I'm sure I want to nickname shirt as a
2:09:48
great nickname. But I would like to play three quick clips here
2:09:53
regarding immigration in the United States since we're
2:09:56
talking about it. This sanctuary cities are freaking out. The
2:10:03
sanctuary states are freaking out.
2:10:06
John C Dvorak: Well, they're the big talkers, the big fish.
2:10:08
They're the big blowhards?
2:10:11
Adam Curry: Yes, they are I mean, obviously, if I have this
2:10:14
mayor Adams man deal he's out of control. Did you hear? I mean,
2:10:19
did you hear what he was saying? Let me play this one. Because
2:10:22
it's bad in New York man. Listen to this.
2:10:25
Unknown: Let me put it in perspective for New Yorkers. For
2:10:30
each family seeking asylum through the city's care, we
2:10:33
spend an average of $383 per night to provide shelter, food,
2:10:40
medical care, and social services. With more than 57,300
2:10:47
individuals currently in our care. On an average night, it
2:10:52
amounts to $9.8 million a day, almost $300 million a month, and
2:11:01
nearly $3.6 billion a year. But this is the floor, not the
2:11:09
ceiling, it's the floor. This is only an estimate if the number
2:11:12
of migrants in our case stays the same over time. It is clear
2:11:18
to us however, that without policy changes, the number of
2:11:22
migrants arriving will continue to grow. This will increase our
2:11:28
course, if we continue down this unsustainable track, with an
2:11:33
average of almost 34,000 households a night over the
2:11:39
course of just this fiscal year. That will increase cost to $4.7
2:11:45
billion. Hear me if things do not change. I'll new estimates
2:11:53
have a spending nearly $5 billion on this crisis in the
2:11:59
current fiscal year. That's up from the 1.4 billion we spent
2:12:05
last fiscal year. It it nearly equals the budgets of sanitation
2:12:11
department, our parks department, and the FDNY
2:12:15
combined.
2:12:17
Adam Curry: And you know, this is a sanctuary city that had a
2:12:19
really big mouth when it was time for elections like oh,
2:12:23
yeah, oh, we're Whoa, whoa, we're all in and I'm gonna give
2:12:28
Governor Abbott props. He said, You know what, why don't you see
2:12:31
what that's like because, oh, it's Texas supposed to swallow
2:12:34
all of these people. We have people sleeping in the airports
2:12:37
in in El Paso. This this this bus is going right in
2:12:42
Fredericksburg. Luckily on the way to Carville, but Kirbo is
2:12:45
only 30 minutes away. Now this is a disaster. And now finally
2:12:50
people are starting to figure it out. But it's these leaders like
2:12:54
Maura Healey, the governor of Massachusetts. This is a year
2:12:59
ago when she was running for governor. And she played a role
2:13:03
I'm gonna be the first lesbian woman to be governor. Well,
2:13:07
here's what she had to say at the time.
2:13:19
Unknown: If they wanted to take on a sanctuary city designation,
2:13:24
I think that's great. I think cities and towns are into
2:13:28
position to be able to do that. And I've seen it
2:13:33
as dealer principals.
2:13:36
Adam Curry: I support that. I support it. Yes, sanctuary
2:13:38
cities is great. We can be that were a sanctuary state vote for
2:13:42
me. Some time later.
2:13:44
Unknown: As of today, close to 5600. Families with children are
2:13:48
living in state funded shelters, hotels, dorms and other
2:13:52
emergency facilities across Massachusetts. That figure is
2:13:56
80% higher than it was just one year ago. And it's
2:14:00
unsustainable. For this reason, today I am declaring a state of
2:14:05
emergency in Massachusetts.
2:14:07
Adam Curry: There you go. But know very well. People of the
2:14:12
heat dome cities that you are being robbed. You are being
2:14:18
robbed. And luckily there's one Alderwoman in Chicago who has
2:14:22
figured it out and she's asking some annoying questions.
2:14:26
Unknown: Is every migrant really getting $7,000 worth of care
2:14:31
every month? At least 120 million tax dollars heads need
2:14:36
to roll Alderwoman Jeanette Taylor recently tried to get
2:14:40
spending details from the people in charge of migrant operations.
2:14:44
I saw nothing in the presentation about how much
2:14:47
money we're spending. That slide I guess got lost
2:14:51
for six months. CBS two has been trying to get a breakdown of
2:14:55
what money is going where what businesses and what
2:14:57
organizations are being paid for. We've spent half a year
2:15:01
fighting City Hall for migrant spending records, because
2:15:05
taxpayers deserve to know. In February, we filed this Freedom
2:15:09
of Information Act request a FOIA which requires the city to
2:15:13
turn over public records. About a month later, we got a
2:15:16
response. We showed Alderwoman. Taylor are back and forth with
2:15:19
an Office of Budget and Management official who asked
2:15:22
for time to cobble together expenses. They said they don't
2:15:26
have those records available yet. No records on more than
2:15:31
$100 million
2:15:32
spent the MSBs y'all know some of that is some shady dealings.
2:15:36
That's what that is. Somebody's lying.
2:15:41
Adam Curry: Somebody's lying. That's right. Their money is
2:15:44
being stolen. It's the same with the with the drug dealers on the
2:15:47
street. Your money is being stolen. The all these
2:15:50
organizations that you know, oh, will help the homeless? No, I
2:15:54
don't know the giving a methadone, which they never get
2:15:56
off of. It's all of this has been captured. Yeah. When you
2:16:04
say
2:16:06
John C Dvorak: absolutely just money, they're just stealing
2:16:08
money. They are stealing money. If you can't get the records and
2:16:12
that woman's right. You know, they put the request and they
2:16:15
were like, Okay, we spent 100 million but we don't have any
2:16:18
records of anything. Okay, sure. That's like somebody's lie and
2:16:22
like the
2:16:23
Adam Curry: Pentagon. You know, you someone sent us this. I'm
2:16:26
not gonna play this clip of Faraj Nigel Farage talking
2:16:31
about, you know, he was a bank. He was the bank. And I thought
2:16:35
the on the back and forth you you said that the 1 million D
2:16:39
banked was a sketchy number.
2:16:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw that clip. Yeah, I'm not gonna play
2:16:45
it.
2:16:45
Adam Curry: But this this turns out to be true NatWest in the UK
2:16:50
is D banking, by their own admission about 1000 accounts a
2:16:54
day. And M zip and people are being D banked for all kinds of
2:17:00
reasons. But also NatWest is now telling businesses to stop
2:17:06
accepting cash. They won't even let businesses deposit cash into
2:17:11
the bank over a certain limit. See it's like some crazy Oh,
2:17:16
John C Dvorak: it's this is always about net West. 1000 a
2:17:19
day is 300,000 a year which means it hasn't been going on
2:17:23
for three years
2:17:23
Adam Curry: I don't think you know the article
2:17:27
John C Dvorak: went to million if they had that many accounts
2:17:29
to begin with. There's something very sketchy about the about
2:17:34
Faraj net West and this whole complaining I have not seen any
2:17:38
will not break down and
2:17:39
Adam Curry: not Westworld Telegraph has done quite a quite
2:17:42
a good job of this. They actually have done quite some
2:17:48
investigation, not the only bank in the world. No but not West
2:17:52
does own a lot of banks in the UK a lot of and the end Faraj
2:17:55
has bank was owned by NatWest. You know, maybe not West is in
2:18:00
trouble. That's very possible. I'm not sure but it seems like
2:18:04
there's a real push in the UK to screw and penalize people with
2:18:08
cash even and we'll see this I'm sure with parking.
2:18:11
Unknown: Thanks, Paul. It used to be simple. The only challenge
2:18:14
was having the right change. But in the South London Borough of
2:18:17
Sutton, putting money in a machine now comes with a
2:18:20
surcharge. And I was parking in Wallington cost two pounds if
2:18:24
drivers use an app, but three pounds if they pay at the
2:18:27
machine.
2:18:28
Don't have a phone that has an app on it anyway,
2:18:31
some Ferb. I'm desperate. So I needed some
2:18:34
Adam Curry: way to figure out you know, you don't know what
2:18:38
apps are and all that.
2:18:40
Unknown: Do you ever think about paying with cash are used very
2:18:42
often now my wife asked me especially when she goes out in
2:18:45
the car so we generally use the app all the time. cancels in
2:18:48
London began charging for parking in 1958 when the first
2:18:52
meters appeared.
2:18:54
This is primarily to relieve congestion and to share out
2:18:59
fairly limited curb space in central London.
2:19:02
65 years on the parking meter has given way to smart parking
2:19:06
with most councils relying on apps like Ringo, Ringo
2:19:12
Adam Curry: Ringo so instead of two pounds three pounds if you
2:19:17
want to pay with cash, this is because this is this is this is
2:19:21
not okay. There's definitely something happened
2:19:26
John C Dvorak: to lawsuit waiting to happen. Let's see
2:19:27
what happens. And
2:19:30
Adam Curry: just speaking of banks
2:19:31
Unknown: Meanwhile, on Wall Street stock futures were lower
2:19:33
overnight after the credit agency Moody's downgraded 10
2:19:37
regional banks. Among those taking a hit was m&t Bank, the
2:19:41
nation's 19th largest one concern is higher interest
2:19:44
rates, which forced banks to pay customers more money to their
2:19:46
savings. The downgrades come just months after the downfall
2:19:50
of Silicon Valley and signature banks. Moody's says it will also
2:19:53
review the financial health of six large banks including Bank
2:19:57
of New York Mellon and US Bancorp
2:20:00
Adam Curry: Hey, I tried not heard the most recent DH unplug
2:20:02
you guys talk about this at all about about Yeah, we talked
2:20:05
about it Well, what is what is going on and
2:20:08
John C Dvorak: listen to the show? This can't be healthy.
2:20:10
This can't be good.
2:20:12
Adam Curry: This can't be No, but
2:20:13
John C Dvorak: it's just something of a because of the
2:20:16
downgrade of the US debt. Yeah, life, bitch. Yeah. It's a
2:20:24
cascade effect everyone is going to be downgrading everything
2:20:26
they can to get into. And it's also mentioned that horror was
2:20:30
reminded me that these credit rating agencies are always there
2:20:35
in at the end. When all hell's broken loose and things are
2:20:38
over. Then they come in with their downgrade after their
2:20:43
debt, in other words is peak. But don't don't don't downgrade.
2:20:48
Don't you think to help people they
2:20:49
Adam Curry: made the mistake of giving all the aid you know, all
2:20:52
the stellar ratings before the 2008 2009?
2:20:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, all those goals, bad debt, bad paper that
2:21:00
was all over the place was given triple A until it crashed?
2:21:05
Adam Curry: Right. But maybe they've learned their lesson.
2:21:07
And now they're doing now ahead of time?
2:21:09
John C Dvorak: No, nobody assumes this. I do. Their lesson
2:21:12
is Oh, wow. There's a good boy Wall Street's learned his
2:21:17
lesson. No, no. They don't learn their lesson. Listen
2:21:21
Adam Curry: to them. Well, we're in trouble.
2:21:23
Unknown: Credit card debt in America has reached a new high.
2:21:26
A report released by the Federal Reserve yesterday shows credit
2:21:29
card debt has now passed the $1 trillion mark. And it's and a
2:21:33
significant chunk of that debt was accrued this summer, the Fed
2:21:37
says about $45 billion of credit card debt had was racked up
2:21:42
between the months of April and June. So for more on this, let's
2:21:45
bring in Jennifer St. She's the senior personal finance reporter
2:21:49
for Insider. Jennifer, good to see you.
2:21:52
Adam Curry: I think what she was saying there is that 45 billion
2:21:54
was written off the banks wrote that off, but there's still a
2:21:57
trillion a trillion of credit card debt which spiked this
2:22:01
summer. This is not going in the right direction. This is not
2:22:07
okay. So
2:22:07
Unknown: first off, my question is why is this just because
2:22:11
we've been dealing with inflation. And so everything's
2:22:13
costing more. And why a spike this summer? Yeah, I mean,
2:22:17
everything is more expensive groceries, gas, just the cost of
2:22:22
living in general. And so there are many households that are
2:22:25
using credit cards to bridge the gap. They're using it as an
2:22:29
extension of their income. And in terms of this summer, we're
2:22:33
seeing higher levels of travel, there's just more to do around
2:22:38
the summertime. Also right now, for instance, is back to school
2:22:42
is off to college. And so if you're a household that is under
2:22:46
financial strain, you're using credit to make things happen for
2:22:50
your family this summer. Man,
2:22:55
Adam Curry: the prices are off the hook. I'm going to Europe
2:23:00
where the Euro is like it's 10% more.
2:23:05
John C Dvorak: This is yeah, it's 10% More right now,
2:23:07
Adam Curry: how does that even happen? Why is your why is the
2:23:09
Euro 10% higher than the dollar? The euro is
2:23:12
John C Dvorak: never I don't understand why it's not at
2:23:15
parity or less. But it's but it's been higher. It's been up
2:23:19
to I believe 5%? I remember.
2:23:21
Adam Curry: I certainly do. Wow. It's just not as not good. Is
2:23:26
this reasonable? Yeah, well, no, but it was really reasonable
2:23:30
when they had that, that that pension thing going on? It was
2:23:34
down to 113 or something. Now let's back up. Let's take a
2:23:40
look. I'm not going to the UK. Well played this last bit of
2:23:43
this CBS report.
2:23:44
Unknown: Apparently delinquency rates are also pretty high. And
2:23:49
that people are waiting sort of beyond the 30 days to pay down
2:23:51
their debt. What does that say that people are struggling and
2:23:55
the street is getting to be too much. They're not paying their
2:23:58
bills on time, we are seeing delinquencies up, especially
2:24:02
with credit card and auto loan payments. So people just they
2:24:06
just aren't making their payments on time. But they're
2:24:08
still using credit. So that means that they're getting in
2:24:11
debt. In other ways. Buy now pay later, opening newer credit
2:24:18
accounts not taking care of the old credit card debt. Yeah, God
2:24:21
knows every time you buy something online, there's always
2:24:24
that option to pay for it in installments now, no matter how
2:24:27
cheap the item is, and that could definitely get you into
2:24:29
trouble.
2:24:31
Adam Curry: At this point, I would like to point out
2:24:32
something very important that the only thing that has not
2:24:37
increased during this inflationary period, which
2:24:41
should have been transitory is the price of an executive
2:24:45
producer ship and Associate Executive producer or a knight
2:24:47
or Dame hood that has not increased that has remained the
2:24:50
same. Your no agenda show is bucking the trend.
2:24:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and we've actually talked about this and
2:24:56
we're not changing anything. Or we do We're going down with the
2:25:01
with the whole economy.
2:25:03
Unknown: I'm gonna show us move by donate to no agenda. Imagine
2:25:06
all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
2:25:17
John C Dvorak: we do have a few people have thanked for show 15
2:25:19
ad and that will include a bunch of well wishers. Yeah, quite a
2:25:24
for the 888 anniversary, which I really appreciate and maybe does
2:25:29
too. And all show does and everybody in between, but let's
2:25:33
start with Anonymous and Harker Heights Texas who comes in with
2:25:37
$100.33. Steven, cold, glassy air cold Glaser. In Fernando.
2:25:50
Dena Beach, Florida. $100. Wait.
2:25:56
Adam Curry: The Ashley Larson switcheroo. That's a switcheroo.
2:26:01
Did you get that?
2:26:02
John C Dvorak: I don't see it. Oh, did I miss it? I missed one.
2:26:07
I'm sorry. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're
2:26:08
right. Okay. Let's start with that. Ashley Larson in Pam Lake,
2:26:14
Minnesota. Land of 1000 10,000 Lakes, switcheroo for Shelley.
2:26:19
By smoke. Ashley. She can be my smokin hot wife whose birthday
2:26:25
today is 57. And she's on the list. Okay, we I sorry about
2:26:33
that. Stephen Cole Glazer got him James crane in Missouri
2:26:39
City, Texas. 100. Mike, Jensen's in Brussel of Brussels, his
2:26:46
Brussels has got to be Brussels, Belgium. Yes. But the 999 Nisa,
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D douching.
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Unknown: D deuced.
2:26:56
John C Dvorak: 9999. And he has a call out. Please they also
2:27:02
call out Dimitri H as a douchebag. He's got some
2:27:11
language there, you might want to read l online.gov. O L L
2:27:19
file, l file online.com 9203. Now 9203 happens to be a call
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out I'm going to read these naming locations for the 888 If
2:27:33
you click the box saying I want to pick up the fees
2:27:36
Adam Curry: Oh, that's that's how you got the 9203
2:27:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, and this is they've been putting
2:27:42
this on their jobs all this new system they've done it Pay Pal.
2:27:45
They take a lot of
2:27:46
Adam Curry: they take a lot of money to pay pals. Yeah, no
2:27:49
John C Dvorak: kidding. So they put this in there to take out
2:27:53
even more money that way I see it but I appreciate the thought.
2:27:57
And we have a lot of people that donated 9203 To wish john and
2:28:04
Mamia Happy anniversary, including Elfi online.com.
2:28:10
Adam Curry: Are you going to read all of these you're just
2:28:11
going to go through and thank people by name. I'm just
2:28:14
John C Dvorak: going to take people by name okay. They're all
2:28:17
saying the same thing. He happy anniversary so I don't think I
2:28:19
really need to read any of them. Baronet is salty. gherardo
2:28:24
kinswoman David, our lands our lands I think Richard linquist
2:28:31
cory cats. I Lena I Liana I Liana price. Derek was Dwayne
2:28:38
Mellon saw and we haven't heard from him for a while.
2:28:41
Adam Curry: Man, I should give him his props. Where's metals? I
2:28:47
was not why he's a Duke. I know we need to gentleman Erica, I
2:28:53
present
2:28:54
Unknown: the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest. So Dwayne
2:28:57
Mellon song. There you
2:28:59
John C Dvorak: go. Yeah. Eric ha Howleen Howleen sir Xenon
2:29:04
emission Liverpool. Mark Hardwick, Dragana ever Avik our
2:29:12
Avik by the way, there are no cities or countries mentioned in
2:29:17
this particular spreadsheet. Some reason? Frankie T's and
2:29:20
other thing they're fixing. GEORGE Oh, there's a Sir George
2:29:25
Bush. It was another guy we haven't heard from for a while.
2:29:28
Marco. Marco de magnanimous Benjamin demoiselle. Ski Kelly
2:29:35
spunk Berg another old regular sir Ron Peter Bickford Carrie
2:29:40
Weddell at David Fukase, odo and a friend Yes. Boom Kevin
2:29:47
McLaughlin. Of course. You even though it's got nothing to do
2:29:50
with boobs. Mickey Keck, sir Polly Bravo in Greeley. Mark
2:29:56
Hampton. Ron Sherman Hugo. So God Oh Catherine Sutton
2:30:01
Catherine is RV Bangkok girl. Yes. Who's also boots on the
2:30:06
ground reporting about all kinds of stuff in Africa crypto
2:30:08
granny. Crypto Granny, she's an Africa expert. Clayton sim
2:30:14
chick. Lead to LAN. Sir Dan the man. Midwest trips Midwest
2:30:25
trypsin Chris Bullock, Klaus BOSM ah J Volks. With a long
2:30:33
note. Thank you. Joe Barrows. Tim Dalton read a Harrington
2:30:40
dragon slayer says in St. George. Sure. quirky and that's
2:30:46
the end that was the end of our that was the end of our 92 Oh
2:30:50
threes and then sir dragons. There's 92 and then we go to Sir
2:30:54
quirky who was 8888 And this isn't more well wishers that
2:30:59
didn't pick up the extra fee which is fine. I don't think
2:31:04
anyone has to do that. You know, it's not that big of a deal,
2:31:08
sir. Quirky John hole saying Brian sharps are Dodger and de
2:31:12
Misty. James Lawler. Sir Mike 44. Dred Scott Dred Scott. Nice
2:31:19
job. Jeff. Nice bush. Thomas Ballmer. Sir Dan The Quiet Man.
2:31:27
Monica Boyle. Jared Hardegree. John Taylor, sir Walkman. Sir
2:31:34
Tooth Fairy. This what you do if you stay married long enough.
2:31:36
You get these? Congratulations. Great. Just stay married, sir. A
2:31:42
roadie Joe. I intended for rain. Sir Richard Hufford in Tempe
2:31:48
Arizona. Ryan, Temperton, Sir David kwinter rocks Inc. Sir
2:31:58
Layton, those in Alabama. Michael Graham, sir. Craig
2:32:05
Porter, by the way Michaels in Gilbert, he can give us a
2:32:07
temperature check. Sir Christopher James pueblos.
2:32:11
Darius Walker, sir dewclaw Shane Rugen Ed Warner Sirte Daris
2:32:20
unity. William rollin James little Scott Riley. Jessica
2:32:27
Mancuso with a birthday call out and a shout out to Dame Susan.
2:32:34
At trips around the Sun
2:32:35
Adam Curry: whoa biscuit of her birthday always give me a
2:32:38
biscuit on my birthday.
2:32:41
John C Dvorak: And Jessica's guess she came in at 88 one so
2:32:45
we can assume that the Happy Anniversary results over almost
2:32:50
100 of them done. We will thank you people for that. Very cool.
2:32:54
We appreciate it. Okay, onward with Sir. Camera, Chris in
2:32:58
Grafton, Wisconsin at 538 as a birthday, sir infinitas Holly
2:33:05
Springs, North Carolina Kevin McLaughlin areas 808 And this
2:33:09
time he celebrating autumn suites, melons, Autumn suites
2:33:14
the melon of choice for connoisseurs. Sir Dave and East
2:33:18
North Point New York area he's gonna run out of melons by the
2:33:21
way. I don't know how many melons varieties. I think this
2:33:25
he's got but he hasn't even said watermelon yet.
2:33:27
Adam Curry: Exactly. You save in that for the big for the big big
2:33:30
boobs.
2:33:32
John C Dvorak: Eric Adler and Punta Gorda. 808 deaths. Another
2:33:36
one sir Dave in East Northport, New York. 808 So wherever you
2:33:39
go, sir infinitas and Holly Springs we are so that was 808
2:33:44
Shannon Winchester and to Lawton, Oregon 808 with a happy
2:33:48
birthday call out on the list. Aaron Weinberg in Roberts,
2:33:53
Wisconsin. 808. August Alexander Van Poppel in Norway. 6060 small
2:34:03
boobs calorie quit or kind of crooked small boobs. Nice house
2:34:07
buying car. We'll give you that at the end along with some goat
2:34:10
karma that other people requested. Sir Tim? Why? Why E
2:34:15
pa who? Hawaii 606 some love for the girls of the itty bitty
2:34:21
titty committee.
2:34:24
Adam Curry: The alliteration he's the Baron of goat Island
2:34:27
man,
2:34:27
John C Dvorak: Sir Tim are the towhees the Baron of goat
2:34:29
Island? That's right. Sure. beachbum in Aurora, Colorado
2:34:33
606. Kevin McLaughlin stick into it was in Concord with 606 and a
2:34:40
Ken toll a melon donation. Another one I've never heard of.
2:34:46
But you know, what are we Nora Neveah in Livonia, Michigan $56
2:34:51
Scott quarry in Fort Gresh grassy Gratiot I think Michigan
2:34:59
50s. X sweet pickle in Eagle Idaho 5555 Nisa de douching ben
2:35:10
de deuced Joseph Thomas and Iowa hasta miski en I think in
2:35:19
Vilnius, Lithuania Vilnius Hello Lithuania.
2:35:23
Hello Vilnius. I got a birthday on the birthday list here for
2:35:29
that DOMA best Husband, husband and dad Domus and dead Bad Idea
2:35:35
supply $50.50 If you have a bad idea go to bad idea supply
2:35:42
Adam Curry: or if you want one if you're in the market for a
2:35:44
bad idea,
2:35:45
John C Dvorak: if you're in the market for about I already have
2:35:47
one Justin cruise into hatchapee California starts are $50 donors
2:35:51
and this will wrap it up at $50. I just didn't name location if I
2:35:54
have it. Judge Jonathan Meyer in Xenia Robert Robertson home in
2:36:00
Flint, Michigan. Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee Danica
2:36:05
Keaney in Lincoln, New Hampshire. Cap pack chiropractic
2:36:11
and Capek, Michigan Charles Peterson and Albert Alburquerque
2:36:17
New Mexico good old George will shit in love vernia, Texas,
2:36:22
Samantha Illuma do in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Jeremy
2:36:27
Donahoe, in Brunswick, Victoria, Canada Navia burr borg in San
2:36:35
Marcos and others say hey, get to people there you should get
2:36:38
in touch with each other me Scott Palmer. Annandale in New
2:36:41
Jersey, a Margaretha in den hood in orange Vale, California. I
2:36:47
think it's funny she has a Dutch name and she lives in orange
2:36:50
Vale I no coincidence, the Dutch color orange thing not. Michelle
2:36:56
Petit in Grand Forks, North Dakota. John Dowsett in Milan,
2:37:02
Illinois. We're vert Fuller who sent us a nice little note
2:37:08
Batavia, New York. Thanks for the note, Cory Jackson and
2:37:11
Watertown, Tennessee and last on our list is William dole gay in
2:37:16
Bristol, Ville, Ohio. That's a lot of people who want to thank
2:37:19
each and every one of them, especially the ones in this case
2:37:22
from these from me from me and Mimi for all the well wishing
2:37:26
for the 35th anniversary. May it be Mary hit 70
2:37:30
Adam Curry: Oh, we're looking forward to it. Thank you all
2:37:34
very much. Let's do the let's see what have a note for a night
2:37:41
note long term layaway night. This has been done by Dame
2:37:44
atomic ginger Heather. And she said she wants to inform us that
2:37:48
it has reached his knighthood level through my continuing
2:37:50
donations that I'm surrendering him so he can become sir boys
2:37:53
and berry of the blue waffle region. I remember them from my
2:37:58
meetup in Lubbock, Texas in 2015. And they need they need
2:38:05
some jobs, karma and prayers in these economic times. So we'll
2:38:09
give you that and thank you very much and we will bring it up on
2:38:12
the podium in just a moment. And thank you all again for
2:38:15
supporting the no agenda show especially on this joyous
2:38:18
occasion of 35 years and John and Mimi 8888 And thanks
2:38:23
everyone who came in under $50 which is typically for reasons
2:38:26
of anonymity or indeed for one of those sustaining donations or
2:38:29
layaway knighthoods. Thank you all so much jobs,
2:38:32
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
2:38:47
Adam Curry: Well, quite a list, Scott Korea wishes his smokin
2:38:50
hot wife when he ablated having birthday turned 56 on August 1.
2:38:54
Grandson Eric Bradley wishes his grandmother Marian cola Happy
2:38:57
birthday she turned 101 on August 9 and still reads
2:39:02
newspaper without her glasses. Tony house wishes her son Brian
2:39:05
a happy birthday turns 34 Today Uncle John says Happy Birthday
2:39:09
to Dame Susan of the parkways turning 80 Today, Jessica man
2:39:13
Kyuzo Happy Birthday to mom Dame Susan with the parkways the same
2:39:17
one turning at sir camera Chris 38. Today, Astor Myskina wishes
2:39:22
her husband, Domus Happy Birthday today just heard that
2:39:26
Nora naeba Happy birthday to Dad Scott. He turned 56 Tomorrow Jim
2:39:31
Watson Watson Waston. Tomorrow Brian Watson smokin hot wife
2:39:36
Connie as she's turning 33 Ashley Larson wishes her smokin
2:39:40
hot wife, Shelly a happy birthday turning 57 and Shannon
2:39:44
Winchester wishes her husband David Winchester, a happy
2:39:48
birthday of course we see the same from everybody here at the
2:39:51
new the no agenda show happy birthday from the best podcast
2:39:54
in the universe.
2:39:57
John C Dvorak: Did we missed one? What did I miss? Well
2:40:00
there's this note this make good note from Johnny we read the
2:40:03
make good note. Yeah, but in there it says doorman Steelman,
2:40:08
who turned 35 on 8888
2:40:11
Adam Curry: And happy birthday to husband Joe Dorman Steelman
2:40:15
who turned 35 on 888 We read that on the last show believe me
2:40:19
we did read the exact same note
2:40:22
John C Dvorak: that she keeps claiming we never read her note.
2:40:25
Adam Curry: Do I need to go to being anti Oh, no,
2:40:28
John C Dvorak: I think you're right and she probably doesn't
2:40:31
listen carefully.
2:40:32
Adam Curry: It's alright it's okay we did it we did it for
2:40:35
safety first safety's what we did it we have four knights we
2:40:39
need to bring them up on the podium that means we need to
2:40:41
have a two double headed blades or something Oh, I
2:40:44
John C Dvorak: don't I got a triple headed blade.
2:40:46
Adam Curry: That's all right we'll just Just be careful with
2:40:48
that one. How about sir fair, how about anonymous and work for
2:40:55
all of you please join us here on the podium. As I am very
2:40:59
proud to pronounce Kate you as the fondling knights of the no
2:41:02
agenda roundtable. Sir boys and berry of the blue waffle region
2:41:06
sir Mo Farah Fort Bend County sir touching plus night of the
2:41:10
Gallatin County Fairgrounds and surgery. that's right for you.
2:41:13
We've got hookers and blow written boys and Chardonnay also
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by request breakfast beers and pork chops Sandoz, who got
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organic macaroni and plasticizers we got some
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Rubenesque aluminum Rosae Geisha sock a buck a Manila bomb kits
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and bourbon sparkling cider escorts, ginger ale and gerbil
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and of course everyone's favorite. The mutton and meat
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it's all right here for you the mutton and meat everyone loves
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mutton and meat. And thank you for becoming knights of the
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nogen Round Table go to no agenda rings.com Take a look at
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those handsome night and Dame rings only the night ones for
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you today. There's a handy sizing guide which will show you
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how to size the ring that you want the finger that your finger
2:41:51
that you want the ring to be slipped onto, and we need an
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remember to put that on social media and especially on your
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LinkedIn people love seeing it there. Thank you once again for
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supporting the no agenda show and becoming no agenda knights
2:42:11
of the roundtable. No one
2:42:19
is the perfect companion to the no agenda Show podcast. They are
2:42:23
all producer organized. They're free to enter free to be a part
2:42:27
of free to organize. It's like a TEDx only not a stupid because
2:42:32
no agenda meetups are cool. And you meet cool people and you
2:42:35
talk about cool stuff. And there's no no hierarchy or
2:42:39
anything is just you guys all hanging out together. Here's an
2:42:42
example. Listen to this meetup report from Greensboro. I think
2:42:45
it's Greensboro. You will just listen this. This is in Georgia
2:42:48
from this past August 5.
2:42:50
Unknown: Hey John and Adam its Dame CC in Greensboro, Georgia.
2:42:54
We're at Oconee brewing for the inaugural suds and sanity
2:42:58
meetup. We've got 16 People here including to Human Resources
2:43:03
Hey, it's Dame Ames of late country brought a few no agenda
2:43:08
versions with me. I hope they become producers and not
2:43:11
douchebags having a great time in our inaugural meeting in
2:43:14
Greensboro.
2:43:15
This is Joe Stevens from Watkinsville got my pasta block
2:43:18
locked and loaded. This is
2:43:20
Dame Janet from Amelia Island, Florida. This is my fourth meet
2:43:23
up at four different places. I figure I'm on a watch list
2:43:27
somewhere but hey, if I keep moving, the government can't
2:43:30
catch me.
2:43:31
This is Christina from Watkinsville I'm here with my
2:43:34
parents and my two human resources. It's like a party.
2:43:38
This is David Epstein didn't kill himself.
2:43:40
Don't eat me. Mike, I'm
2:43:43
afraid you're gonna give me the whole load. Hey, this is Vic
2:43:46
from Wiggum Georgia. Trains good plains my head.
2:43:53
Adam Curry: Inaugural meet up 16 Human Resources and I love it
2:43:56
when you abuse your kids and make him say Epstein didn't kill
2:43:58
himself. That's good. That's very good. Well done. Well done
2:44:01
y'all. Couple of meetups to discuss before I head off for
2:44:06
the Europe's and these are the ones coming up starting tomorrow
2:44:10
Dayton's Dog Days meet up five o'clock at the Dublin pub in
2:44:13
Dayton, Ohio. On Saturday, the North Idaho Sandy brigade Lake
2:44:17
flotilla now this will be at 11am at Lake Coeur d'Alene and
2:44:22
Sir Scott The G was hosting that on Saturday the 12th the Gitmo
2:44:26
lowland crooked Ryan picnic will be in a mela severe in burning
2:44:32
Utrecht. It will depend on the weather. So check with this or
2:44:36
Hendrick who was organizing that also on Saturday the Old Town
2:44:39
get down meet up at chadwicks Old Town Alexandria, Virginia
2:44:42
two o'clock. We have the take a friend leave a friend meet up
2:44:47
630 at Miss Lin Sports Park in Ripon, California, and also on
2:44:52
on Sunday or next to show day third annual Central Texas float
2:44:57
meet float portion 10:30am That'll be at the Texas State
2:45:01
tubers San Marcos, and at four o'clock the Meet portion at the
2:45:05
railyard Bar and Grill also San Marcos. Make sure you check the
2:45:09
website. No, Jenna meetups.com For or for details. And of
2:45:13
course, Baron Scott of The no agenda armory is organizing
2:45:17
that. Sunday, the second Saturday on a Sunday slave
2:45:21
Soiree. How complicated is that Portland, Oregon, at Sellwood
2:45:25
Riverfront Park at 11. In the morning, the so called Small
2:45:29
amygdala meet up at 430 at draft and vessel Tosa in Wauwatosa,
2:45:34
Wisconsin. That is on Sunday and then on Monday or finishing it
2:45:39
out here. The Ozarks deconstruction zone, six o'clock
2:45:42
at Lindbergh Tavern in Springfield, Missouri. There's a
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Unknown: days you won't be triggered. You will to be
2:46:40
everybody feels the same.
2:46:47
Adam Curry: I think we're both swinging for the fences today
2:46:50
with the ISOs. I got four I think you have four as well. All
2:46:53
right, your turn to go first. Okay, this is an obvious one.
2:46:57
Amy Joe Biden. That's because he was cute little kid from the
2:47:01
meet up report. If this one,
2:47:03
Unknown: everybody's always blaming me for everything.
2:47:07
Adam Curry: That's from that's actually from English from the
2:47:10
Fresh Prince of Bel Air. When Trump was on as a bit part, this
2:47:15
one somebody's lying, somebody's lying. And the last one
2:47:20
Unknown: the walls are closing in.
2:47:24
John C Dvorak: Okay, I think I can tap those Azim classics. I
2:47:26
did some research and I dug
2:47:28
Adam Curry: these. We've done these before. No, we've never
2:47:31
done
2:47:31
John C Dvorak: any of them. Okay. But there will you've
2:47:35
heard this one before? Because it wasn't really designed to be
2:47:38
an ISO but I want to play it. This is the classic do it live?
2:47:42
Unknown: Do it live? I
2:47:43
Adam Curry: can write it and we'll do it live. Yes. Okay. Oh,
2:47:47
he's
2:47:47
John C Dvorak: a winner. In this one fake balls,
2:47:51
Adam Curry: fake balls are a real business. How old? Are we
2:47:58
15 more
2:48:01
John C Dvorak: more pertinent today than ever, and try this
2:48:04
one who doesn't have a podcast?
2:48:06
Unknown: Who doesn't have a podcast at this point?
2:48:10
Adam Curry: I'm kind of like that.
2:48:13
John C Dvorak: And then last one that is always usable as thanks.
2:48:16
Thanks so much.
2:48:19
Adam Curry: Well, I'm thinking who doesn't have a podcast at
2:48:21
this point? Kind of like in that one?
2:48:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'll go with that. I
2:48:25
Adam Curry: think I think that's the one we should go with.
2:48:28
Indeed. Well, I feel like we've left a lot of oh, you know what,
2:48:33
I do have a very important clip. One of our producers has really
2:48:39
taken to think his name was told our He's really doing the C span
2:48:44
beat. Now, let's be honest, it's hard. I mean, that call in show
2:48:50
yeah, really have to watch it to get the good stuff
2:48:52
John C Dvorak: is time consuming?
2:48:55
Adam Curry: Yeah. That mean C span is great for hearings and
2:48:58
you want to see what the weather even and that's time consuming.
2:49:01
And I do a lot of that. Have it on all the time in the
2:49:04
background. But the morning show, The Washington journal,
2:49:08
people come in, if you really want to catch the good stuff,
2:49:11
you got to watch it. So I'm appreciative of this clip. Thank
2:49:13
you, Eric. Let's hear from Pete Pete is on our independent line
2:49:17
from Alabama. Hello.
2:49:18
Unknown: Hey, how you doing today? Thank you for letting me
2:49:22
in on your communist socialist party anti national station and
2:49:27
I would like my question is, I just wonder how many dogs Obama
2:49:32
is eight since he's been out of office.
2:49:35
Okay, we're gonna go to Frank.
2:49:40
Adam Curry: I love it when they get through.
2:49:43
John C Dvorak: They let them talk. They let him finish the
2:49:45
sentence. Good. That was good. I mean, come on. That was pretty
2:49:48
good. And they cut them off. They cut them off after they
2:49:50
finish the sentence because they know that's good material. This
2:49:52
is good broadcasts.
2:49:54
Adam Curry: What keeps people watching Of course, many
2:49:57
John C Dvorak: dogs with that problem.
2:50:00
Adam Curry: Dogs Obama ate since he left the White House. Dogs
2:50:04
it's racist it's just a racist thing and it's blunt
2:50:08
John C Dvorak: that what's racist about it what to do black
2:50:10
people eat dogs I never heard this
2:50:13
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you what the what anyone who was
2:50:15
woke listening to this podcast will say we're just racist
2:50:18
racists I didn't say racist I said racist. Racist racist. Yes,
2:50:24
exactly.
2:50:25
John C Dvorak: Well I got a couple tickets I got a talker
2:50:27
that you wouldn't might want to hear.
2:50:28
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness. You don't stop. Don't stop does this
2:50:38
does this fall under our under our current? Our current
2:50:45
category, now which timeframes?
2:50:49
John C Dvorak: Gender destruct initiated. I get better does non
2:50:53
binary
2:50:55
Adam Curry: Okay, here we go. Oh, sorry. Is that Oh
2:50:58
John C Dvorak: wait, no, that's not the one don't play that one.
2:51:00
That's a That's a good one. No, but no, this the trans hate
2:51:03
girl. Lord, help us listen to this.
2:51:06
Unknown: There's so much trans hate in the world. Sorry.
2:51:10
There's so much trans hate in the world right now. And I'm so
2:51:12
done with it. And try just means that we are unabashedly happy
2:51:17
just to be alive. I know where do you personally feel that that
2:51:21
hate is coming from most places, but especially the government?
2:51:28
In your own life? Where would you say that you feel the hate
2:51:30
the most? I feel like I kind of internalized a lot of hate. So
2:51:36
it feels like it's mostly comes from myself at this point.
2:51:39
Because
2:51:44
John C Dvorak: this matches up with the earlier clip we had. I
2:51:47
mean, most of the Yeah, climate changed. worriers are all
2:51:52
climate change nuts, and she's a trans hating herself. I mean,
2:51:56
these people are a turtle internalizing these issues and
2:52:00
having problems and they wonder
2:52:02
Adam Curry: why before you go to your next clip,
2:52:05
John C Dvorak: I'm not I don't need to play the next one. This
2:52:07
one I was good.
2:52:09
Adam Curry: boots on the ground from the psych nurse our psych
2:52:12
nurses back she's in California. She's anonymous, but she is in
2:52:16
the Southern California psych ward. And after your hearing you
2:52:19
guys wonder why they're more female to male trans be adult or
2:52:23
kids? I think I have an answer. This is important information.
2:52:27
Many of my bio female patients which means biological, who are
2:52:32
trans or identify as non binary or anything other than female
2:52:37
all day, they don't want kids when they grow up because
2:52:40
they're either grossed out or scared of the idea of pregnancy.
2:52:45
One kid last week said she finds it gross that another human
2:52:49
grows inside you like a parasite. These kids are not
2:52:53
being taught proper or basic sex education that girls grow up to
2:52:57
be women and boys grow up to become men. Instead, they are
2:53:00
confused with trans education all throughout elementary school
2:53:04
with 20 something year old teachers with blue hair who
2:53:06
themselves are disgusted or scared of pregnancy and birth
2:53:10
and see it as a burden to live a life to take care of a child.
2:53:14
The teacher promotes this lifestyle to an impressionable
2:53:16
elementary kid who feels like they don't fit in just my
2:53:20
observations working with psychiatry, psychiatric patients
2:53:23
who are trans LGBT, who are at my hospital for suicidal
2:53:27
thoughts, or actual attempts since the pandemic started since
2:53:32
the pandemic started. Oh, and not a single one has come in for
2:53:36
being suicidal because of a failed transition or regret, at
2:53:41
least not so far. So I shot our psych nurse a note back and
2:53:45
said, Well, why are they suicidal and depressed? Answer?
2:53:51
I think they moreso feel like they don't know what to do
2:53:55
because of all the adult guidance, internet personalities
2:54:00
and mainstream give brownie points to them for their trans
2:54:04
journey. When these kids really have much bigger issues than
2:54:08
that. We've talked about this. They have issues and they're
2:54:11
just at a hole. You're a boy. I think they're afraid. I think
2:54:14
they're afraid to admit it. And they double down on the trans
2:54:17
narrative. They think that they have to follow in order to not
2:54:21
disappoint someone often that is
2:54:24
John C Dvorak: that out. Well, that does lead to that clip that
2:54:27
I was going to skip. Okay, which is a non binary. Looks like a
2:54:31
female I guess I can't tell Professor
2:54:35
Unknown: classes start today. And one of my students emailed
2:54:39
me yesterday saying hey, this is my name and these are my
2:54:42
pronouns. Please respect me. So I decided let's look at visibly
2:54:46
gender non conforming as possible. Including my Little
2:54:52
can I get it? They them and it says I'm a fun guy. My classroom
2:55:01
is a safe space.
2:55:03
Adam Curry: So let me let me finish. What are psych nurses?
2:55:08
Often they can be heard stet telling stories to one another
2:55:11
of what they did for the trans community and whatnot, like
2:55:16
standing up to an adult that use the wrong pronouns nails it
2:55:23
right there nails it, these poor children and they have been
2:55:32
convinced of, of, of this illness.
2:55:37
John C Dvorak: The been convinced of this self
2:55:40
righteousness to pronoun thing is self righteous.
2:55:45
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah, it is. Ah, yay. Okay, well, that's not
2:55:52
at all depressing.
2:55:54
John C Dvorak: That's the way we end the show.
2:55:56
Adam Curry: And let me see.
2:55:58
John C Dvorak: Maybe I guess, well, how about the FBI shooting
2:56:01
the Trump supporter I'm that's my favorite story of the day.
2:56:03
You
2:56:04
Adam Curry: know, I love this and I love that you went through
2:56:07
this and then I will have I do have one more clip I want to
2:56:10
share but I love that you because you've split this up
2:56:13
because this was a like a three and a half minute report. And I
2:56:16
know exactly why you why you why you split this up because it's
2:56:20
worth it. I see. Whenever I go into the studio in the morning,
2:56:23
I get your clips first. I don't listen to them. I just look at
2:56:26
the titles like oh, he's already got it. Because this was an
2:56:30
amazing segment on MSNBC.
2:56:33
John C Dvorak: Well, this pick I picked this one off of Katy Tur.
2:56:39
Who brought him NBC on her special little streaming show
2:56:43
and they brought she brought some guy in who's reporting on
2:56:45
this. And there is no answer. They will not tell anybody this
2:56:52
is like remembered when the those brothers who in Boston
2:56:55
they went and visited a friend of theirs and shot the
2:56:58
Adam Curry: guy who's aren't. Yes, the Czarna F Czarna. Yeah,
2:57:02
whatever their names were. Hold on. Before we played these
2:57:05
clips, may I take us back to June 19. Episode 1565. Yeah, did
2:57:13
you catch the six week cycle?
2:57:14
John C Dvorak: I can't say that I have
2:57:16
Adam Curry: a reminder for everybody.
2:57:18
John C Dvorak: I'm not on the lookout, which is an interesting
2:57:20
point, as you mentioned it.
2:57:22
Adam Curry: Well, we haven't seen it for a while the six was
2:57:24
been a perpetual cycle basically. But the six week
2:57:26
cycle is something that we were read in on the FBI in particular
2:57:31
likes to Jackson roadie or
2:57:33
John C Dvorak: technically read in on it we were informed by a
2:57:38
yes,
2:57:38
Adam Curry: yeah. Okay. informed by a producer yes informed that
2:57:43
in order to keep their budgets and their stature and their
2:57:46
quotas up the FBI every six weeks needs to scam runs a scam
2:57:52
has to some have to have some event happens. So they still
2:57:56
look like they're cool and doing stuff. And they usually take
2:57:58
some you know, mildly retarded person or someone who's on drugs
2:58:03
and you know, just and Jack them all up and then give them some
2:58:06
phony baloney stuff. And then and of course with social media
2:58:10
got even easier. Hey, man, post this. What are you going to do?
2:58:13
What are you going to do? Come on post me send me a text
2:58:15
message put it on Insta.
2:58:17
Unknown: Tonight in court filings. The FBI saying social
2:58:20
media accounts tied to a Michigan man posted Nazi imagery
2:58:24
and sent messages about planning a mass shooting at a synagogue.
2:58:28
Adam Curry: And here we are. pretty much exactly six weeks
2:58:33
later.
2:58:35
John C Dvorak: And I'm wondering whether this guy even exists
2:58:37
because the story is very sketchy.
2:58:40
Unknown: The FBI has killed a man in Utah. Officials say Craig
2:58:45
de Roberson was making violent threats toward President Biden
2:58:49
time to his visit to Utah, which is expected later today. Along
2:58:53
with threats to da Alvin Bragg. Joining me now is that missing
2:58:56
News investigative correspondent Tom winter so the FBI doesn't
2:58:59
kill people just for saying things. What happened?
2:59:02
Right, so they had been conducting an investigation
2:59:05
since March where according to charging documents in the search
2:59:08
warrant affidavit, which we've received our colleague, Amy
2:59:10
blankstein. They started investigation in March of this
2:59:14
year, the FBI received a tip off from a social media company and
2:59:18
it doesn't say which one and we're in the process of trying
2:59:20
to confirm a social media company saying, hey, this person
2:59:22
is Craig D. Robertson of Provo, Utah, is saying some things that
2:59:26
you might want to look into. And the FBI began an investigation
2:59:30
based on a number of posts that directly referenced President
2:59:33
Joe Biden, Vice President Harris, as well as Manhattan
2:59:36
district attorney Alfred Bragg, who's obviously one of the
2:59:38
people who's brought an indictment against former
2:59:40
President Trump. Yep.
2:59:45
John C Dvorak: So Trump has to be brought in because it's got
2:59:47
something to do with him. And so we go with her. So she's going
2:59:50
to now ask him, and then the last is going to be the same
2:59:54
thing. She's going to ask him about the circumstances of the
2:59:57
shooting.
2:59:58
Unknown: And of course they're investigate Should they say that
3:00:00
they went up to him they surveilled him, that he
3:00:03
confirmed to them that He was who He was that these were his
3:00:06
posts. At some point according to the charging documents, he
3:00:10
says, Hey, FBI, if you're still monitoring my posts, know that
3:00:12
I've got a gun by my side in case you ever want to come by
3:00:15
again. He made a direct threat against President Joe Biden on
3:00:20
Monday and later this afternoon, the President travels to Utah.
3:00:24
So obviously there's some concern there. The threat
3:00:27
against Alvin Bragg was particularly graphic in
3:00:29
specific, it did state that he wanted to kill him he posted
3:00:33
photos with guns he posted photos with with the FBI calls
3:00:38
for sniper rifle when they observed him they said that he
3:00:40
was wearing a white, some sort of a white shirt, a darker suit,
3:00:46
he had some sort of of a camouflage hat on him that said
3:00:51
the word Trump on the top of it, as well as an AR 15 pin is a
3:00:55
matter of course, Katie, the FBI is Inspection Division, which
3:00:58
reviews any FBI involved shooting, we'll take a look at
3:01:01
this. In these court documents we're still going through but
3:01:04
the bottom line here is this individual made a number of
3:01:07
threatening comments and particularly violent comment
3:01:10
comments against just go back
3:01:12
to what happened when they confronted him and what led to
3:01:15
the actual shooting.
3:01:16
Right. So there were two incidents. Back in March, they
3:01:19
confronted him as they typically do. And usually the FBI tries to
3:01:23
talk to you and say, Hey, are you the one making these
3:01:24
threats, you really want to make these type of threats in try to
3:01:27
have some sort of an interaction that doesn't end the way that it
3:01:30
is not a good idea, and maybe not a good idea? And apparently,
3:01:34
he confirmed the accounts. He said, Look, this particular
3:01:37
poster you're referring to, I said, it was a dream where I
3:01:39
dreamed of carrying out these violent acts, but it's a dream.
3:01:42
He says, according to the charging documents, he said next
3:01:45
time you come back here, you better have a warrant. And he
3:01:47
ended the communication after that point those according to
3:01:51
the search warrant affidavit. So that's when they observed him.
3:01:54
They conducted some surveillance wanted to understand who he was.
3:01:57
And at that point, obviously, this investigation continued
3:02:00
forward. How
3:02:00
did it lead to a shootout?
3:02:02
Adam Curry: How did they Yes, thank you, Katie church, she's
3:02:05
not been read in. I think you're right guy doesn't exist, didn't
3:02:08
happen. Didn't happen.
3:02:11
John C Dvorak: So she asked one more time what you just heard.
3:02:15
And here's how it ends. This morning,
3:02:17
Unknown: they were attempting to execute an arrest warrant
3:02:20
against him they were going to take him into custody on three
3:02:22
counts of violation of making interstate threats effectively
3:02:26
influencing impeding or retaliate against federal law
3:02:29
enforcement officers. And then specifically a threats against
3:02:32
the president United States was three counts they were trying to
3:02:35
arrest him on this morning as well as conduct a search and
3:02:38
because they were trying to conduct a search that's why we
3:02:41
have so much detail about his posts including the search
3:02:44
warrant affidavit Tom winter,
3:02:45
Adam Curry: Tom, thank you very much. I love I love how she just
3:02:49
she asked him three times he gives no answer. She finally
3:02:53
says okay, well, what were the circumstances of the shooting?
3:02:56
Well, we have so much detail about the search warrant but
3:02:58
okay, thanks. Come on. That's great. That's just great. I
3:03:07
think it's a six week cycle bullcrap story.
3:03:10
John C Dvorak: Well, you you know we Yeah, you have to be
3:03:13
right on that because it's six weeks exudates if we looked at
3:03:16
the dates Yeah, they're just not well done anymore ever since we
3:03:20
lost a terrorist angle. These are bad bad scenarios don't make
3:03:25
any sense. This guy was babbling black guys in a dream he said he
3:03:30
was in a dream and he said he wasn't any had a gun. He says he
3:03:33
can bring a warrant and this is the there's no there's no
3:03:36
solidity to the story doesn't have any foundational
3:03:40
believability.
3:03:41
Adam Curry: Well, you know, the CIA is getting all the action.
3:03:44
They've got Ukraine. They're doing their stuff and Africa.
3:03:46
FBI is pissed. Like we want some we want some NK
3:03:50
John C Dvorak: money. Money, money. And then
3:03:53
Adam Curry: finally today a no agenda public service
3:03:56
announcement. Beware. Apple air pods appear to be exploding in
3:04:01
people's ears. Have you heard of this?
3:04:03
John C Dvorak: No. But it doesn't surprise me if
3:04:05
something's going on
3:04:06
Unknown: that tiny pieces of these Apple air pods fit into
3:04:09
Jason colognes hand. The left is intact. The right blown apart.
3:04:14
And chart was the craziest thing I've ever went through. Kelowna
3:04:18
of Tampa was listening to a dance mix at the LA Fitness on
3:04:21
Fourth Street in St. Petersburg, when he noticed something
3:04:24
strange. And then I saw white smoke starting billowing out. He
3:04:28
left the air pods on a piece of workout equipment and God help
3:04:32
when he returned.
3:04:33
There already pops.
3:04:34
I mean, I didn't see it happen. But I mean it was already
3:04:39
bitterly dried. I mean,
3:04:40
Adam Curry: there's a lot of these reports that I'm seeing
3:04:42
online a lot of people showing their ear pods is blown apart
3:04:45
John C Dvorak: or theum. This is a dangerous product
3:04:49
Adam Curry: is exactly right. people I have met but this is
3:04:53
bad for Apple because there's people whose ears are shot. This
3:04:57
John C Dvorak: lawsuit waiting to happen blows and blows If
3:05:00
you're gonna have to pull us off the market, yeah.
3:05:03
Adam Curry: And we successfully got through more than three
3:05:06
hours didn't talk about the Trump indictment or the Biden
3:05:09
crime family once. We got lucky. That's why we are the best
3:05:14
podcast in the universe. If you want to hear people talking
3:05:17
about that, like Twitter, they're out there.
3:05:20
John C Dvorak: It's everywhere. You don't have to really search.
3:05:23
Adam Curry: Well. How come you didn't talk about Obama? Chef?
3:05:27
That's my favorite.
3:05:28
John C Dvorak: Maybe that's a reference to the dog.
3:05:30
Adam Curry: Ah, there you go. Coming up next on no agenda
3:05:33
stream.com Or on that fancy modern app you are listening to.
3:05:39
We've got hog story, hog story with Fletcher and Blaney. And
3:05:43
really only one end of show mix. It's a doozy. It's Doug
3:05:49
Longnecker. And he's done a great version of a Supertramp
3:05:53
song called Lock stepper. You will enjoy it. It's all about no
3:05:56
agenda coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country.
3:06:00
And the next show from Amsterdam, the Netherlands in
3:06:03
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
3:06:05
John C Dvorak: and I'm from Northern Silicon Valley where
3:06:07
I'm freezing to death in the heat dome. I'm John C. Devorah
3:06:11
Adam Curry: we return on Sunday right here on no agenda remember
3:06:14
us at the vortech.org/na Until then, adios mofos Hui Hui
3:06:22
Unknown: tell me where it hurts Hey everybody
3:06:25
John C Dvorak: I said hit
3:06:28
Unknown: me up and I'll fix
3:06:41
Adam Curry: you got to know Jenny meet up you never know
3:06:43
who's gonna hang out a boob
3:06:46
John C Dvorak: reasons
3:06:48
Unknown: when the demand is wonderful it was magical birds
3:06:58
in the trees were saying
3:07:04
John C Dvorak: joyfully
3:07:33
Unknown: is these
3:07:39
questions
3:07:56
telling me
3:08:19
Adam Curry: it weird days of the apocalypse we need protection
3:08:36
and you get that body connection and where do you find that with
3:08:43
multiple choices and multiple sizes in PNG, jpg I knew it was
3:08:51
there.
3:09:52
Unknown: Talk about your mother
3:09:59
in law On mopho.org/and He doesn't have a podcast at
3:10:08
John C Dvorak: this point but he I told you so
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