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July 16th, 2023 • 3h 16m

1573: 4 No Youth

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Adam Curry: The carbon is you,
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Unknown: Adam curry John C Devora.
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Adam Curry: July 16 2023 this pure award winning combination
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media assassination episode 1573 This
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Unknown: is no agenda
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Adam Curry: not afraid of AI at all and broadcasting the Texas
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Hill Country here and SEMA reason number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley words where it is
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actually national AI Appreciation Day. I'm Justin
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Borak.
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Unknown: It is not it is.
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Adam Curry: Coop is supported by presidential proclamation
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John C Dvorak: go to what's it called? whitehouse.gov de.com
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has all the holidays today is the following national national
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National Corn fritter day
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Adam Curry: well now stop the press. Okay.
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John C Dvorak: National Ice Cream day. National a fresh
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spinach day. Oh man of course. guinea pig Appreciation Day.
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Yes, okay. National Cherry de cherry national atomic Veterans
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Day.
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Adam Curry: Wait a minute, whose event of it atomic
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John C Dvorak: exposures to plug the Oppenheimer movie. Yeah. Oh,
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there you go. rural transit day. Feast of Our Lady of Mount
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Carmel and world snake day and artificial intelligence
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Appreciation Day.
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Adam Curry: Well, I'm so happy we can celebrate that with an
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actor strike. Dudes Oh, dude, dude, dude. podcast is the
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future. These guys are never going to resolve this dispute.
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Ever. Too
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John C Dvorak: late. I had a long chat with Brunetti our
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Hollywood producer.
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Adam Curry: Yes. A hot hot hot big time hotshot Hollywood
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producing shot
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John C Dvorak: how to
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Adam Curry: shut cards. How's
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John C Dvorak: everything running radio
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Adam Curry: is brought and who knows? Yeah, hopefully you know
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we'll because that'll get you the big part. You've been
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looking for it? No, it won't. Yeah, okay. So you this is a
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boots on the ground reports straight from the top of the
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entertainment empire.
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John C Dvorak: First of all, he goes off on the writers.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, in what way?
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John C Dvorak: Writers all they do is whine. He says you can
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produce a movie that never shows the light of day and nobody gets
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paid except the writers. Yeah, that's true. There's always four
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writers because three of them couldn't do the job.
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Adam Curry: How many writers does it take to screw in a light
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bulb? On and
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John C Dvorak: on about the writer so he doesn't really for
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the writer. Wait a minute,
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Adam Curry: the writers the writers find themselves to be
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incredibly important. They create a eyes the AI
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John C Dvorak: thing is a straw man. Crappy scissors. No way.
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Yes. That is ever going to your writers have all these specific
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skills that really take a human is to fine tune for AI to go
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into. But then he goes into the Screen Actors Guild where he
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signs up sag AFTRA it's now combined say after Yes, he goes
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after them and he says that for one thing they've been using,
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you know, using fakes situations in the background forever. And
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the idea that they're going to take every screen extra that
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comes in they're going to take their picture pay him for one
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shot and then use them forever for free. He says he says
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they're missing the whole point is this this is it this is a a
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kind of a buyers market with slower sellers market slowdowns.
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Adam Curry: Explain what that means I understand it but just
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explain what that means use them and
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John C Dvorak: the idea is the sag after one of their
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complaints is they're worried sick that the extras even though
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I thought that was the screen extra skilled but okay, I guess
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joined forces. The extras are going to walk into the guys just
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sit around the background and sit at the tables are going to
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come in. They're going to they're going to 3d scan him
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paying for that one day's work and then use the you know, an AI
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created background and from then on, and they're never going to
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get paid residuals. You know, they're going to get screwed.
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Yeah. Now, he came up with what I thought was one of the most
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brilliant things I've ever heard I have to say. He says he says
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that they're kind of missing the point he says you could create
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at any studio, a profit center using the following tech
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technique. charge people charge people $100 to come in with
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under the guise Do you want To be in a movie, they pay 100
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bucks, you scan them 3d scan them, put them in all these
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movies and say, you're gonna be in a bunch of movies, we'll send
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you an email letting you know what movies you're going to be
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in for the next 10 movies, free tickets.
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Adam Curry: And they don't even have to do that. And popcorn
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John C Dvorak: was he said that? They would, you would, you
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would, for example, Adam curry you give him 100 bucks for the
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service or the, for the privilege for the privilege of
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being in these movies. And you'd get an email telling you when
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you're going to be in it, it would be would people would line
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up by the 1000s. And you can set up a shop in Hollywood and just
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say be in a movie. Bring your 100 bucks and here we go.
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Alright, let's he's actually going to present this to a
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studio.
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Adam Curry: I think that's the dynamite idea. But this, of
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course, is not the problem at all. This This has nothing to do
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with the core issue. And I have a couple of clips from around
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the globe. And I'm very, very, I can listen to Fran Drescher talk
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all day I
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Unknown: have one. Fran Drescher. I
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Adam Curry: love hearing her talk. I love it when she's all
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riled up. She still looks amazingly good.
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Unknown: How old is she supposed to be
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John C Dvorak: in your 60s 9093?
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Adam Curry: Even without makeup, she's there without makeup. As
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far as I can tell. She looks great. I just love how she How
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does she get that gig? Is that is that voted? Is that? The
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members? Yes.
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John C Dvorak: To get you have to this is a lot of work to get
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that gig. Well she have to raise your ear to run you know you've
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just voted in thing Yeah, right there was the last one it did
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Adam Curry: see the real I'll just say it up front. The
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problem is the movie business is now owned by the technology
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business. Big tech owns the movies. And it's turned from
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theaters Yes, theater still important. But we can see the
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writing on the wall. theaters are moving into the home. Soon
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you'll you'll help sit in your tiny home, you've got your apple
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vision Pro and your enjoy your tiny home telling you this is
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the future you will be looking at this huge screen you will be
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enjoying it, can you enjoy it with friends, you can look over
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and look in their so called eyes. And it's going to be it's
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going to be great experience. But as we know, the model for
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Silicon Valley is give me all of your creative energy. Give me
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your identity, and I'll give you shit. That is the that's the
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model. That's the Twitter model. That's the Facebook model.
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That's the Google model. Give me everything, including your
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actual identity, and I will give you nothing. So while we're
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doing value for value is the only way forward, because people
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also can no longer afford to have all these different
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subscriptions. And guess what? Even though Fran doesn't want to
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believe it, the magic money machine is over. There's no more
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cheap free money. Everyone's losing their ass on streaming.
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Yeah, sure Bob Iger is doing okay. Bob had them.
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John C Dvorak: A few CEOs are doing okay. Not to the extent
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the clip I have of her. She claims they're making hundreds
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of millions of dollars a day.
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Adam Curry: Well, let me let me play a couple clips here. And
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then and then we'll continue because I have a few more things
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to say about writers and actors. First we go to CNN
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Unknown: will also happen in this morning TV and movie
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production brought to a grinding for the union representing
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160,000 actors goes on strike members joining picket lines
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alongside writers who walked off the job in May, the issues that
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center around pay streaming service residuals, but also
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things like technology, especially artificial
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intelligence. Sir Fisher joins us live now. And Sarah. That's
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the thing that of all the elements here and they're all
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critical to the negotiations that are ongoing to the extent
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they are at this point. It's the AI issue. And I think the
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central nature of it, what exactly are actors concerned
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about? And how do they actually want it addressed?
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It's a huge issue, Phil. So essentially, what the studios
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are trying to say is that an actor or somebody who's working
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in the background, think about a stunt double, et cetera, could
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have their image be screened. And then anytime it's used after
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that the studio would maintain the name image and likeness,
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meaning that they by the
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Adam Curry: way, this is a stunt double who of course, looks like
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an existing actor. For the CNN Montt news model to set Waltham
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This is they could have take a stump Python ball and they
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again, you know, could they use them over? You are dumb lady,
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you're dumb benefits.
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John C Dvorak: Hold on a second. I agree with that. But do you
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notice the use of name image and likeness which is the term this
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very specific term that was applied to college athletes?
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Adam Curry: Oh, good catch. Good catch.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, because what happened in college
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athletics is that the because of some lawsuits starting in
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California and other places, they started suing the NCAA
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because these poor kids are getting ripped off for their
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name, image and likeness. Well and says okay, now the student
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owns it so they can go sell their own name, image and
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likeness. So there's something about that phrase showing up in
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this report. It that right there is kind of a red flag. Well
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Adam Curry: Mind you, this is the news business and if anyone
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is really afraid of being replaced by AI it's the news
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models because they know they know that they are
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John C Dvorak: there. Whatever happened to naked news? still
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around.
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Adam Curry: I think it's what stopped the press. Hold on.
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Let's go back. Naked news doc. I believe it's still in on the
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air. Let me see naked news.com Yes, it's still on the air,
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John. Oh, yep. Welcome to naked news. Yeah, let's see, Cecilia
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is still
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John C Dvorak: getting clips from naked news, Marina
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Adam Curry: Valmont, and Frankie Kennedy all still on air, naked
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new
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Unknown: image be screened. And then anytime it's used after
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that the studio would maintain the name image and likeness,
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meaning that they could benefit and monetize that person's, you
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know, image, but the person who is getting actually their image
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scanned would only get paid for that one day. So that's the big
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sticking point that the actors are very frustrated about. It's
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a huge issue, though, because AI is taking over every single
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industry, not just Hollywood, but the news media, all sorts of
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things. But within Hollywood itself. It's coming at a time
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where a lot of people feel as though they're not getting paid
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enough already. So the fact that they're not going to be able to
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make money off of their name, image and likeness. Only after
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they do the scan is what's really this big sticking point
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is coming down to
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Adam Curry: man her English is horrible. It's like she's a
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European speaking backwards, like just dumb anyway, from the
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sag after website itself. Let me read this. What are the sag
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AFTRA strike demands, this is from their fac, the union is
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demanding increased minimum pay rates, increased streaming
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residuals, this is the key point really better working
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conditions, please. And a way to make royalties be a podcast if
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you want better work included, look into how well we go
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through, and a way to make royalties relevant once again,
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this is all about the royalties conversation. Now, here they
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throw in the red herring since the streaming model prioritizes.
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Now it's not that this is one of the true problems I'm sorry,
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since the streaming model prioritizes shorter seasons over
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longer periods of time, the actors are running out of jobs
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and opportunities. Yes, this is part of the real problem. They
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plan to protest against that as well. Like the WGA strike, the
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guild is also trying to focus on the artificial intelligence
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aspect of the whole ordeal. No, the problem here is there are
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too many actors and too many writers and not enough money to
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go around in the business. That's the core problem. It's
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market forces. We need less actors and less writers. Um,
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John C Dvorak: I think the idea of charging people to be in
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Adam Curry: charge them to be a writer to now let's listen to
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BBC we get some Fran Drescher.
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Unknown: Hollywood actors are going on strike over pay and the
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use of AI in the industry, leaving hundreds of productions
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in limbo. Hollywood writers walked out weeks ago. And now
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that members of the sag AFTRA union have joined them, it will
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bring the entire industry to its knees.
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Adam Curry: Before I continue this clip, it must irk some
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people who actually know what's going on, that the news is only
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picking up on the AI aspect of it. Because that's not what it
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is at all. They want actual residuals, which is over.
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residuals are over. It's over, you get paid up front and that's
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it. It's over. That's not coming back the model of
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John C Dvorak: if you're still working on Blue Bloods, or
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Adam Curry: John, it's obviously in the books, it's over. That's
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not the future anymore. And quite honestly, we have so much
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media so much content out there. And yeah, in general, it just
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has to, it has to shrink down some there have to be some
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losers.
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Unknown: The actor, comedian and president of the Screen Actors
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Guild. Fran Drescher is fuming she of
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Adam Curry: comedian as well.
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John C Dvorak: She ever a comedian. She was she was doing
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the anatomy. That's a comic role. Okay, good point,
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Unknown: the entire business model has been changed by
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streaming digital AI. If we don't stand tall right now, we
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are all going to be in jeopardy of being replaced by machines.
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We are being victimized by a very greedy entity. I am shocked
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by the way people that we have been in business with are
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treating us I cannot believe it, how they believe that they're
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losing money left and right when giving hundreds of millions of
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dollars to their CEOs. It is disgusting. Shame on them.
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Adam Curry: That's a true union voice. You know, that's it.
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She's borderline noodle boy. I can't believe that the CEO is
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making hundreds of millions of dollars and worse we make The
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product we are the coffee
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John C Dvorak: shop. Yeah, no, we aren't. Workers control the
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means of production. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's all the union
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unions do that that's what they do. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Well, but it's it's short sighted because it look
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the thing that if I
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John C Dvorak: had worked in the past,
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Adam Curry: if I work, yeah, but that's over these days are over.
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If I was Fran Drescher that I would say, you know, what we're
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gonna,
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Unknown: I'd be surprised. It would be interesting.
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Adam Curry: I would say, look, all the technologies, their AI
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is at your fingertips, you can create, you can create entire
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screenplays together, you can do it as a group will support you
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will make sure that you have fair contracts amongst each
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other. We don't need the studios here, we got a server is there,
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oh, here's the sag after a server, go make your own stuff.
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Com movies are being made for $3 million. This is the mistake.
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And this is also a huge opportunity for non union people
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to get together and do stuff. It's a huge opportunity. While
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there because this is this will not be resolved. I don't see. I
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mean, it started with DVDs. And you know, that was the first
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part of technology that really started to ruin this.
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John C Dvorak: Videotape, to be honest about it.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. But DVDs made it so much easier. And what
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happened with DVDs is the studio's they got 75% off the
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top. And that was you know, I don't know if Fran Drescher or
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was the one who was part of those negotiations. But that was
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that's where the mistake was made. So once you give 75% Off
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the top 25% is left to distribute to everybody else. I
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mean, okay, it's not going to be great. And she has to recognize
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that Disney is not just Disney plus, that MGM has not you know,
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it's not just it's Amazon. You know, Amazon and Amazon is not
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just the movie arm Apple is not just apple plus. So it's a
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little disingenuous to say the CEOs are making hundreds of
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millions of dollars. And I don't want actors and, and writers to
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be mad at me. But you have huge opportunities now bigger than
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ever get off your ass and go do something. It means No, I mean
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it get off.
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John C Dvorak: You sound like you're running parallel.
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Adam Curry: Why? Maybe I am maybe No, but it's more it's the
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market. There are people who think that, that there's plenty
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of money in streaming don't know what they're talking about. So
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streaming, working,
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John C Dvorak: loses. It's not where money they can't find a
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way to make money with streaming. It's always been that
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way. Anyone who's looked at the math of running these servers
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from the early days on? Yeah, at some point it scales when you
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get to some billions of users
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Adam Curry: even then it's sketchy at best. Now, and yeah,
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it'd be you know, stock prices based
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John C Dvorak: on it. You pointed this out, or one of your
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you gave a speech once where you made a big board, you made the
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point of difference between the computer based system is that
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the computer, you know, it sends out a single copy to a single
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person and that's a one to one as opposed to broadcasting like
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in radio, where there's an antenna that can that can
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provide the data to 1000s and 1000s of people with you.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, with every extra customer. There's extra
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cost. It's not like broadcasts where every extra customer
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decreases your cost. That's the point. Unless you use the M bone
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Unknown: which was days or when's the last time we talked
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about it?
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John C Dvorak: Alright, let's remember that that was a team
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bone was it it was broadcast over the internet kind of idea
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Adam Curry: Yes. Multicast over Oh, and it was over blue you
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couldn't do it today you could do it today. Anyway let's
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John C Dvorak: let there's also the bit territory idea where you
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you you could broadcast using bit torrent technology so
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everyone was like everyone was serving everyone else.
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Adam Curry: If I may point out no agenda tube.com uses web
19:06
torrent, and you can upload to no agenda tube.com In fact, our
19:10
friend Mark Hall has done so we've got a value for value
19:14
model model rockin and rollin on that and every person who's
19:18
watching passes on bitch to the next person. And that's just one
19:22
guy. Just you know, Alice gates runs that, you know, he's not
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rich. Now he just runs that and it all kind of works. It's all
19:29
of this can be done all of this as possible. But but people are
19:33
stuck in the old model and they're lazy. Hey, man, what's
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what my residuals Well, yeah, that was okay in 1980. I know
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because I was part of MTV, the non union shop. Do you think I
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get a single residual from MTV for anything ever? No. No way.
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John C Dvorak: You're the future I
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Unknown: tonight for the first time in 63 years Both actors and
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writers will be on strike. Labor tension is now set to paralyze
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Hollywood. Sag AFTRA, the union representing actors voting to
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hit the picket lines after negotiations with the
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organization that represents studios and streamers broke down
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early this morning, actor friends Rescher best known for
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her role in the daddy, now the president of sag AFTRA, saying
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they were given no choice,
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you share the wealth, because you cannot exist without us.
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The more than 160,000 sag AFTRA members demanding better pay
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regulations for artificial intelligence and increased
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residuals, which for many members provides access to
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crucial health care.
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26,000 bucks a year is what you have to make to get your health
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insurance and and there are a lot of people who residual
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payments are what carry them across that threshold. The
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Association
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of studios and streamers said they offer the actors historic
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pay and residual increases and promises on protecting actors
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digital likenesses from Ai, but the union says that offer was
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not enough.
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They came back with so little that I began to feel like we
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were duped.
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What's your biggest concern right now?
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Well, I feel, you know, a big weight and responsibility that
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we had to strike. I hope that the opposition will come back to
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the table.
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Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, the parent company of ABC News.
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Today speaking on the side of the studio is saying the union's
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expectations are not realistic and could impact 1000s
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There's huge collateral damage in the industry, to people who
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are you know, who are support services, I could go on and on,
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it will affect the economy of different regions, even because
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of this the sheer size of the business. It's a shame, it is
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really a shame,
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Adam Curry: learn to code, listen to actors and writers.
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Now that the summer it's going to be the summer of even less
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crap than we usually have. This is your tremendous opportunity.
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Take that script you've been sitting on that no one wants to
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do anything with get some of your actors, you can do a non
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union low budget you can crowd fund. It's being done all over.
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You're you're watching you're watching the future and you're
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not even seeing the future pass you by. You get you know a Mac,
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and you can do this yourself. You can have success, right
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people will support you. If you can make an outstanding product,
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which is the question is what the opportunity is amazing to
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me. If I had any skills, I'd be doing it. Now. This is what I
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do. I don't I don't have any writing or acting skill.
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Although come on swampthing by the way, I don't get any
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residually
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John C Dvorak: you were okay in that in that story that boost
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that online? thing with detectives? whoever the hell it
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was your good net detective.
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Adam Curry: Oh, no, that was one thing. No, what are you talking
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about online thing with detectives? Who you confusing me
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with some MVNO
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John C Dvorak: production or something?
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Adam Curry: Who do you think I am?
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John C Dvorak: I don't know. I handle online probably. Forgot
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it just like
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Adam Curry: an acting gig with in video me.
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John C Dvorak: Wasn't wha is?
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Adam Curry: Was it the was the amazing adventures of superhero
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Tourette's? Oh, DJ Terrazza. Was that what you're known
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Unknown: as a good one? No, let's do it.
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Adam Curry: I don't recall anything like that. But I'm just
23:42
saying that this is a golden opportunity to create something
23:46
that people will support you. People love, love stuff like,
23:50
Okay, I went to see sound of freedom. Yesterday. An excellent
23:55
example. The movie was originally crowdfunded for I
23:59
think they $5 million. Not a lot particularly of have John Paul
24:03
DeJoria. And Tony Robbins, you know, people chucked in a
24:07
million dollars each here and there. And they got their money
24:10
together because they had a good story. They had a good script
24:12
that people had never, they attach the name to it. The lead
24:18
actor. And now of course, because Disney just didn't see
24:24
any way to make any money off or didn't think it was going to be
24:27
a hot ticket item. They just shelved that which happens to
24:30
all kinds of movies. I like the marketing angle of saying it's
24:34
because of you know, the elites. They don't want you to know. Of
24:38
course, that's what you do, which is which is great
24:41
marketing. Having seen this movie, by the way, I'm now
24:44
thinking that the AMC stories of pulling fire alarms that to me
24:49
is Guerilla Marketing. Fantastic. There's no better
24:52
idea than to make everybody think that the elites don't want
24:56
you to know about the story which was perfectly accentuated
24:59
by
25:00
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of the marketing for was that black
25:03
and white it was kind of a black and white film they were they're
25:06
moving out in the woods with a camera and they were finding
25:09
ghosts layer which story The Blair Witch Project Blair
25:12
Adam Curry: Witch Project. Yes, great, great marketing, great
25:16
marketing
25:16
John C Dvorak: using the same style of guerilla marketing.
25:20
Adam Curry: So I want to give a quick review and then explain
25:23
what my feelings were after having seen this movie we went
25:25
to just north of San Antonio, to watch this not at an AMC movie
25:30
theater. So the air conditioning work it was full, which was nice
25:34
to see and Indiana Jones Mission Impossible I think was open in
25:38
the same theater. But this theater was full. In general, 20
25:45
minutes too long. A very well done very well acted good story,
25:50
you know, based on a true story. And if you've seen the
25:53
documentary, then you'll know that it is based on a true
25:55
story. And this guy's real Tim Ballard really has saved
25:59
children has put pedophiles in jail. At no point is any child
26:04
traffic to the United States. There's no insinuation
26:07
whatsoever of American elites other than some some really,
26:11
really messed up drunken pedo sex tourism and to Juana there's
26:17
no Q anon adjacent crap to any degree whatsoever, it would have
26:21
been a great movie to watch at home on Netflix honestly, didn't
26:26
necessarily have to see it in theater. There's a very
26:28
beautiful plea at the end. To raise awareness of this, and
26:33
unless you are living under under a rock, you know that sex
26:38
trafficking is trapped sex trafficking is real. You don't
26:41
really need to see this movie to believe that trafficking of
26:45
children is real. I've been aware of this going back to the
26:49
80s in Europe at the do true affair. The Rolodex files.
26:55
Brussels is filled with with all kinds of stories of course
26:59
that's where many elites are Haiti we know Hillary Clinton's
27:04
buddy there who's now in charge of amber alert was illegally
27:07
trafficking What 12 children across the border after the
27:10
earthquake me there's example after example, after example. So
27:15
walking out of the theater, we looked at each other and when it
27:19
was good movie, but this movie is while to a degree as a
27:24
parent, traumatizing you know, when you take your kid to what
27:27
you think is a show business audition, and you come back to
27:31
collect your kids and the audition is gone, the sign on
27:34
the door is gone, and your kids are gone. The only thing that is
27:39
disturbing is the mainstreams response to it. The very
27:43
disturbing in fact, there is nothing that warrants what the
27:47
Rolling Stone wrote. What a Rolling Stone what the Guardian
27:50
wrote, Nothing that warrants the responses from CNN and MSNBC.
27:56
Other than a they never saw the movie and they're just all
27:59
jacked up because child trafficking they're the ones
28:03
that have this q1 on thing in their head. No child trafficking
28:07
Oh Audrina crow. They that that's so they're so politically
28:12
motivated that that's all they can think of that that's the
28:15
angle. That's the story. They can't even they can't even say
28:19
something compassionate about children. Even if it was a made
28:22
up story. You could still say, Hey, man, this really makes you
28:25
think about what might be going on in the world. That's the
28:28
disturbing part of this. The movie is not that disturbing.
28:31
The concept is not eye opening. It is disturbing how the
28:36
mainstream media responded to this purely political. Trying to
28:43
discredit anyone who even talks about it. That's the thing that
28:48
is i It's hard for me to rap, it's harder for me to wrap my
28:52
head around that than around the actual child trafficking itself.
28:56
It's these people are sick, truly, truly sick, they can't
29:02
even muster enough to say, hey, you know, that's kind of a
29:05
problem. Let's let's get some experts in who know about this.
29:09
And that used to happen.
29:11
John C Dvorak: Actually, that's a good point. Besides, I mean, I
29:14
agree. Obviously, the show is about that in some ways, that
29:19
the mainstream media is dropping, they're not dropping
29:21
the ball, but they're they're subversive in the normal in a
29:26
normal process, a movie like this would come out. And you're
29:30
right the main show CNN or MSNBC would bring someone on to talk
29:36
about about the problem. Yes. Yes, that's exactly what would
29:43
happen.
29:44
Adam Curry: What a crazy idea. But no, because a couple things
29:47
one, this this movie did not follow the traditional Hollywood
29:52
model of paying off, you know, premiums and junkets and
29:59
everything. Hang for the news media. I
30:01
John C Dvorak: think that's really the crux of it.
30:03
Adam Curry: Of course it's it must be a part of it. There's no
30:06
advertising on the main there's
30:08
John C Dvorak: nothing on Entertainment Tonight. Doo doo
30:11
doo doo doo doo. There's nothing extra
30:14
Adam Curry: in addition. I mean, it's crazy that these Q anon
30:17
people are driving people to theaters to see this Q anon
30:21
adjacent stupid movie while there's a perfectly good AI
30:25
movie about the danger of AI our main story from Tom Cruise
30:31
Mission Impossible. And Indiana Jones How can this not be the
30:34
blockbuster? This is wrong Q anon Trump. I mean, it's that's
30:39
really how these people think they're sick. As Voltaire said
30:44
they are sick as Voltaire said they're
30:46
John C Dvorak: misled they're they're I don't know what they
30:48
they're they're adult. Put my finger on
30:51
Adam Curry: remember those who can who can make you believe
30:53
absurdities can make you commit atrocities. That's what these
30:58
people are. They will make you believe that this is a q anon
31:02
movie that makes you wonder if they actually saw it
31:06
John C Dvorak: at all. They didn't obviously see it. Well, I
31:09
think
31:09
Adam Curry: they did. And I think they sit in the theater,
31:11
and they go, this is done by Q anon people. They're insinuating
31:16
things that just aren't true. There's no such thing as Audrina
31:19
Chrome, which I'm still pretty sketchy on, by the way.
31:23
John C Dvorak: Everybody is
31:24
Adam Curry: no no this funny,
31:26
John C Dvorak: it's a punch line is what it is. It's not really
31:29
things to take serious. That's how
31:30
Adam Curry: we use it, obviously.
31:34
John C Dvorak: It's like John Stuart, and I think this punch
31:37
line should be brought back. John Stuart, when he was running
31:40
the Daily Show, he would go on and on about some operation of
31:44
these and he'd always end it with a punch line, otherwise
31:47
known as Nambla. Oh, yeah.
31:50
Adam Curry: Well, no, it's real. But it's but Nambla is real.
31:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but Nambla has been out of the picture with
31:56
all this trans stuff and everything you think Nambla
31:58
would be brought back into play?
32:00
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no. Now since you brought us here we got
32:05
a phenomenal email which I want to share boots on the ground.
32:11
And I have I have a couple of clips to go along with this.
32:15
Because this does play into what the mainstream is really up to.
32:20
Don't look at child sex trafficking don't look at any of
32:22
that. But let's let's make sure we let's make sure we don't
32:26
offend anybody. Here's a very, very offensive bid on CNN.
32:30
Unknown: They're not gonna serve it because they don't like the
32:32
way Dylan Mulvaney was treated after this whole controversy
32:35
started he courses the transgender person they were
32:38
going to sponsor and go along with with Bud Light they didn't
32:42
like how Bud Light didn't stand by him after all this
32:46
Adam Curry: now did you catch the problem in this CNN clip?
32:50
But again, okay, they're
32:54
John C Dvorak: prompted me to look for a problem.
32:56
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. So this is they're talking about of
32:59
course Budweiser is a sponsor there's a real problem Budweiser
33:02
is going out of the Budweiser Bud Light brand has very big
33:05
financial troubles perhaps much more of and Anheuser Busch and
33:11
CNN is discussing this and they of course defending that they're
33:16
they're defending the brand they're there their money
33:19
masters and they're they're saying hey, you know this people
33:23
were pissed off about dilla Mulvaney you're not
33:25
Unknown: gonna serve it because they don't like the way Delvin
33:27
Mulvaney was treated after this whole controversy started he
33:30
courses the transgender person they were going to sponsor and
33:35
go along with Bud Light they didn't like how Bud Light didn't
33:38
stand by him after all this
33:40
Adam Curry: now did you find the the problem? Yeah, the him Yes,
33:43
of course. It's misgendering
33:45
John C Dvorak: Hello misgendered.
33:49
Unknown: Want to make an important note yesterday in a
33:51
segment about transgender influencer, Dylan Mulvaney who
33:55
was featured in Bud Lights recent campaign, she was
33:58
mistakenly referred to by the wrong pronoun and
34:03
be quiet you're Misha, stepping on all the good stuff.
34:07
She was mistakenly referred to by the wrong pronoun. And CNN
34:10
aims to honor individuals ways of identifying themselves and we
34:15
apologize for that error.
34:17
Yes, we apologize. Error.
34:20
John C Dvorak: I thought that Dylan Mulvaney was they them?
34:26
Adam Curry: No no, no, no, no Dylan Mulvaney. Okay, so I have
34:32
learned a lot in the past few days. And that what I will not
34:36
discuss here is the movie what is a woman? It's a short
34:40
documentary, but half an hour is not the Matt Walsh documentary.
34:45
It is what is a woman comma, wrong answers only. And from
34:49
this you will learn that really this is the biggest misogynistic
34:54
movement ever witnessed in history.
34:57
John C Dvorak: But we've been saying that in the show.
34:59
Adam Curry: Yeah, but This really makes it come come all it
35:02
brings it home particularly people like Rachel Levine. This
35:07
starts with with young men who are who are missing a lot of
35:11
things in their life. And let's face it, what men find
35:17
attractive in women is a lot of stuff men have made up you know,
35:21
the the clothes that that men perceive women to be sexy and
35:25
the lipstick, I mean, the high heels all of this is pretty much
35:29
invented by men. So the ultimate the ultimate turn on at some
35:33
point for many men, young men in particular, but a lot of older
35:36
men as well. Is to become a woman to be that sexy woman.
35:41
It's weird to wrap your head around, but we
35:43
John C Dvorak: gotta there is a there is a perversion. Yes.
35:46
Where you are certain men get excited by dressing as women. A
35:51
lot
35:51
Adam Curry: of men, John, not just certain, a lot. Yes, yes,
35:56
yes, you have, I don't
35:57
John C Dvorak: know one of them. And I know more than 10
36:01
Adam Curry: Please watch that documentary. And I'm going to
36:05
play I'm going to read this email them play two clips that
36:08
kind of play into it, how the system works. Because the
36:13
Internet is a is a very big part of this and Big Pharma medical
36:17
community. So this is one of our producers. Anonymous, writes in
36:20
you received this well, then a very, I think, beautiful email.
36:24
Thank you for writing this. I'm a 25 year old trans woman, male
36:28
to female currently living in Portland, Oregon. I'd like to
36:31
share information that you and John will hopefully find
36:33
insightful. I started transitioning three years ago
36:36
after life of depression and self exploration. I knew when I
36:40
was around the age of 12, but it felt that coming out would ruin
36:44
my chances that living a normal life I have by no means been
36:47
brainwashed by what has been and is currently happening. I have
36:51
always been crawling the net and have been interested in
36:53
computers for most of my life. So I found out about early forms
36:57
of sissy Hypno. We talked about this. This is the online porn,
37:01
that it's kind of an overreaching category, but it's
37:06
everywhere. And it is about force feminization men becoming
37:10
women in pornographic settings and learned about early forms of
37:14
sissy Hypno from being in trans spaces all the way back to 2013.
37:19
I'm happy you've been covering it on the show because it's a
37:22
major problem now. So this is an important this is coming from
37:25
someone who who has gone through some of this but but is worried
37:29
about what's happening now. Born out of the depths of fetishes
37:33
like femdom Female domination over a man and forced
37:37
feminization, a woman making a man wear makeup and women's
37:41
clothing by the way, go on PornHub this 15 of these
37:44
categories about just this. Sissy has turned into a new age
37:48
and destructive rebirth of the term crossdresser. Remember that
37:52
John crossdresser there was that a lot of men were cross dressing
37:56
back in the day. The porn has had many more than you think.
38:02
Obviously, the porn has permeated parts of Reddit and
38:06
all the major porn sites tick tock has a huge role in this
38:10
because a lot of tick tock inspired Hypno videos have
38:13
started to sweep the main sites that hosts this type of content.
38:17
The main one I followed is Hypno tube.com. Don't go look at that.
38:23
Created by a trans woman who goes by Mia Electra. Her and the
38:27
people adjacent to her circles are trying to cover all the
38:30
bases by having marketed online storefronts like Hypno femme dot
38:34
club, even creating fake fantasy pages like Hypno university.net
38:39
Go look at that one. The thing that I'd really like to drive
38:43
home is the discord Twitch, anime, YouTube and gaming
38:46
culture all collide with this. Discord is full of groomers
38:50
soliciting nude sending hormones to minors through the mail.
38:53
Twitch is full of degenerates who play games for 12 hours a
38:56
day that are slowly taking the roles of friends and parental
39:00
figures to their viewers as a parasocial relationship. A lot
39:04
of animators porn adjacent YouTube is the new TV for Gen Z,
39:09
acting as a hub that links to games that link to discord
39:12
servers to link to Twitch streamers that lead to being
39:14
involved in ridiculous Internet communities and example,
39:18
Finster, a British Twitch streamer that start out playing
39:21
Minecraft and now has gained massive popularity for losing a
39:25
bet to a friend where he had to jokingly dress up as a girl on
39:28
Go on. Omegle I don't know what that is in 2018. He has now
39:33
continued to be a girl for five years because of the money and
39:38
notoriety he started receiving and has recently created an only
39:41
fans where he labels himself as a fanboy like the dealer
39:45
Mulvaney. Like I'm a failed actor, but if I pretend to be a
39:47
girl, I'm famous. I'm making millions of dollars. Yeah, these
39:50
are the influences that are
39:52
John C Dvorak: way you would do that can make sense?
39:55
Adam Curry: Yes, but these are the influences that are weighing
39:59
on young Kids now it makes all of this seem very normal. Yes,
40:05
I've been watching this slowly happen my whole life. Young men
40:08
like my past self and friends around me being raised on a
40:12
steady diet of video games, porn, fast food, no real purpose
40:17
in life, no father figures or any hope for the future gives
40:20
you exactly what you're seeing. I hope this sheds more light on
40:24
the topic from an insider's perspective, I will continue to
40:27
be a mole in plain sight for all the days and nights. So this
40:31
story really made me understand what is happening. And this is
40:35
from male to female, the girls have a different story. But here
40:40
now we have the witch trials of JK Rowling, which is a very
40:44
interesting podcast. JK Rowling, of course, the Harry Potter
40:48
author, who was very much against the trans Maoist culture
40:52
and movement. And this broadcast condemned
40:55
John C Dvorak: by by this podcast by a lot of people.
40:59
Yeah. As a horrible turf.
41:02
Adam Curry: Yeah. So when you have this going on, on the
41:08
internet, parental type figures who are very popular on Twitch
41:12
and they're normalizing it, no, it's great. You have dinner
41:14
Mulvaney. It's great to be a girl and I can be so successful,
41:18
I finally feel my feel like myself. You see people who are
41:22
looking to be loved, particularly young children. And
41:25
now all of a sudden, if I do this, I'm like this I can be
41:28
loved. And it plays into an already existing fetish, which I
41:31
guess is just inside a lot of men. Anyway, this is the story
41:36
of Noah who became Natalie and I pulled to Eclipse at 14 Noah was
41:48
not feeling very good in Noah skin, because that's what
41:52
happens when you're 14. It is I went through
41:57
John C Dvorak: your 14 year and if you're a do it your gaki
42:00
during dream
42:01
Adam Curry: you don't you're not right in your skin, you know,
42:04
you might be get pestered for how you look or whatever's going
42:07
on. And this is when of course you need parents and parental
42:10
figures the most. But the internet was there to take no a
42:14
down a different path. And it started with an unlikely
42:18
website.
42:19
Unknown: And then when I was in middle school, I started
42:23
discovering portions of the Internet where people would talk
42:26
about queer identity issues.
42:28
Adam Curry: Notice queer identity issues. Okay, so this
42:32
is, these are the creeps out there pushing the queer
42:35
ideology.
42:36
Unknown: What specifically were you looking at
42:38
my sort of gateway with BuzzFeed, because they have a
42:42
ton of viral content did BuzzFeed. When I was four, I
42:46
just thought I was like any other boy. As I grew older, I
42:49
started realizing I was different. Jamie Dodger, whose
42:54
video it was titled dear BuzzFeed, or something similar,
42:57
I tried to fit in his female during my early teens, I could
43:00
never find clothes I liked quite uncomfortable with anything I
43:02
wore and disliked my hair being long. I must have watched that
43:07
20 times. From BuzzFeed, I started doing my own research.
43:11
When I was 11. I used to just read 11 B watch videos, over and
43:17
over of trans men documenting their journeys online. And even
43:20
before I understood why I was fascinated with that content,
43:24
that's just all I would do is just rewatch videos like that.
43:26
But none of it was you should be trans. It was just this is my
43:31
journey. This is what I just I want to tell the world about my
43:34
journey and about the community at large.
43:36
Today, I'm going to be going over my one month, post up top
43:41
surgery, kind of a general overview.
43:44
And I took all of that information in and I came to the
43:48
conclusion I should allow myself to explore who I am and try and
43:53
use that as an avenue to find happiness. And something that
43:56
had a really, really significant impact on me was people who
44:00
portrayed a trans body in whatever forms that came in as
44:04
beautiful or normal, which taught me that there was hope
44:09
for me to be happy, and that I can allow myself to feel joy or
44:16
find some joy in how I look.
44:18
Adam Curry: This is so understandable. You could you
44:21
could if it was be a giraffe videos, it might have met or be
44:26
a furry or whatever, that when you are an unhappy child and you
44:30
don't have your parents or not, you know you don't have parents
44:34
or you're missing a father figure in this case or whatever
44:37
it is that you're you're allowed to be on screens all day long.
44:41
Your parents don't understand it. And then you have parental
44:45
type figures coming in and saying hey, I was like you and
44:49
now I feel good. Look at me and I'm beautiful and and you get
44:52
comments like slay queen. No wonder these 11 year old child
44:57
is going to be very susceptible to that. Enter the medical
45:01
community. Because was this child really confused about his
45:07
gender? Or was it perhaps some other things going on? And how
45:11
did the medical and pharmaceutical community play
45:14
into it?
45:15
Unknown: And were you seeing a therapist or a counselor at that
45:19
time, like when all of this started,
45:21
I had a lot of mental issues. Maybe that's not the most
45:25
elegant way to say that, but I was dealing with a lot of mental
45:28
struggles. Once puberty began,
45:31
you mean aside from your issues with gender? Yeah, and I
45:35
couldn't really identify that I had issues with gender. I just
45:38
had all of these abstract feelings that didn't coalesced
45:41
into gender dysphoria until I understood what that term meant
45:45
fully, which was later on in my life. And so I was dealing with
45:48
very severe anxiety disorder, depressive disorder, obsessive
45:51
compulsive disorder, and attention deficit hyperactive
45:55
disorder. And so my mom got me a therapist, who I've been with
45:59
ever since. And when she picked out that therapist, she picked
46:02
out someone who specialized in anxiety and gender issues and
46:07
adolescence, which I find interesting to look back on. And
46:11
I had a psychiatrist as well. And around eighth grade, I went
46:15
into this really severe depressive episode. And I ended
46:18
up telling my psychiatrist that I was debating suicide. And so
46:22
everyone decided we were going to have to, like keep an eye on
46:24
me. And so I just kept going to therapy. And like I said, the
46:30
core issue, which we couldn't figure out what's never
46:32
resolved,
46:33
Adam Curry: do you see what is happening here? Here's a child
46:37
who was being diagnosed with anything but gender dysphoria,
46:40
but get him the right thing, a therapist, you should be a girl,
46:43
that's, that'll make you happy.
46:46
Unknown: And I believe, within a year,
46:48
John C Dvorak: it's an industrial complex.
46:50
Adam Curry: It is a total industrial complex, and it has a
46:53
revenue model. There's, there's no that's the key. Yes, there's,
46:58
there's websites that that charge money. There's only fans,
47:03
there's products, lots and lots of there's masks, there's full
47:07
body suits, as all this is an entire industry that is being
47:11
created in the media, the same people who are not interested in
47:15
child sex trafficking. They're promoting this.
47:18
Unknown: And I believe, within a year, I joined a support group
47:23
for transgender youth. And my therapist helped me identify
47:29
that a lot of what I had been expressing to her for a really
47:31
long time, could be identified as feelings of gender dysphoria.
47:37
And after at least a year and a half or two years of those
47:42
issues being present, she referred me to a gender
47:46
clinician, and talking to my parents was the first big step
47:50
that was taken. We identified what I wanted from the gender
47:54
clinic, which was to go on testosterone and to get top
47:58
surgery. But that couldn't happen partially because I was
48:01
too young, I believe the limit was 16 for surgery, and they
48:04
just weren't comfortable at 14. So
48:08
Adam Curry: I don't even know if this is a boy or a girl. I'm so
48:11
confused about this story. A my
48:12
Unknown: our tasks that we got was for me to discuss my gender
48:15
with my parents. And so once or twice a week for a long time, at
48:20
least a year, my parents would sit down with me and he would
48:23
have a long talk about how I was feeling because it had to become
48:26
very clear that not only was my gender dysphoria, spawning all
48:31
of the other mental issues I was having, but
48:34
Adam Curry: Okay, now we get to the crux of it. All these other
48:38
issues you had is because you have gender dysphoria, man you
48:42
can you can convince people to shock somebody, you've seen the
48:45
shock the shock experiment, though don't worry, it's fine.
48:48
And people just shock someone shock someone keeps giving a
48:51
good job and more jobs you can commit this is MK Ultra at mass
48:56
scale
48:56
Unknown: that this solution was medical intervention and that
49:00
was seemingly the only thing that could help me because we
49:03
had tried pretty much every other option at that point.
49:07
Adam Curry: It's this is a very very very troubling time wherein
49:13
what is happening here is the medical industry is playing into
49:17
this for money. There's all of these websites it's the Internet
49:22
has screwed up a lot. This is bigger than I thought it was.
49:28
John C Dvorak: And the media is it should have been shut down
49:31
years ago I've always said that. It internet is the problem it
49:36
Adam Curry: is it is a we we still have tail bones with
49:40
there's no reason we should be able to handle this and we can't
49:43
and so when you see a parent with a kid in the stroller or on
49:47
a screen, you know that that's probably not going to end well
49:51
because there's a lot of ghouls out there just waiting to pick
49:54
this kid up for something. Whatever whatever their agenda
49:58
is, and I think that we are in a mas MK Ultra state and Kamala
50:04
Harris is probably a victim with her crazy laugh
50:13
John C Dvorak: so the rumor is now according to some people
50:15
that it was her quote, it was her coke Yeah. Now, since you
50:20
brought this up this is kind of a universal problem is showing
50:25
up elsewhere but in different ways and not quite the way is
50:28
showing up here but there's something going on as an
50:30
undercurrent and of course the only commonality here again is
50:33
the internet. And in this case, I'm referring to the for no use
50:38
movement in China.
50:42
Adam Curry: I'm not familiar with this.
50:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's it's something I wasn't familiar with
50:47
either. For no no dating no marriage no children no home.
50:55
That's the fourth floor notice the four Wow, it's a bunch of a
51:00
bunch of Chinese as JC I think correctly asserted these are
51:09
Chinese in sells, okay. And insulting has to be part of this
51:14
insult into this giant problem. But But in China, and there's a
51:19
there's a there's a very good YouTube video on this and you
51:22
just go to wheelchairs in China. And it's like the top video they
51:27
show because in one of the provinces, they've banned
51:30
electric bikes, and just pretty much electric anything to
51:34
scooters are illegal, and they find you a lot of money for if
51:38
you're driving around is they want you to be in cars, or
51:42
walking. But it turns out, there's a loophole, you can go
51:46
around in a high speed wheelchair. And so now there's
51:49
1000s of kids in wheelchairs, driving around the cities of
51:54
these areas to go to work and because their wheelchair is some
51:57
of these wheelchairs have a pretty decent speed and have a
52:02
range of about 25 kilometers. So, so this wheelchair story and
52:08
Adam Curry: other and they're also certified by the FAA to fly
52:10
I think
52:12
John C Dvorak: this story morphed into a little discussion
52:15
of the no for no use. But this is the clip is for no use and
52:22
wheelchairs.
52:23
Unknown: Think about it. If everyone chooses to travel by
52:25
electric wheelchair. It's not the young people who are sick,
52:28
but the whole society is sick, and won't it be a sad thing for
52:32
society. Indeed, this is a helpless choice for young people
52:35
in China. in Guangzhou, for example, a document has been
52:39
circulating online entitled, The current phenomena affordable
52:43
youth in our city has risen and it's recommended the multiple
52:46
measures be taken to strengthen the construction of youth
52:49
development oriented city. The document was allegedly issued by
52:53
the Guangzhou municipal Committee of the Communist Youth
52:56
League of the CCP. The document claimed following involution and
53:00
life flat and other phrases that describe the frustration of
53:04
youth due to a variety of social pressures and the emergence of a
53:07
culture of emotional psychology and behavioral styles. The topic
53:11
of for no youth is gradually spreading online as become the
53:15
new buzzword that is no dating no marriage, no home no
53:19
children. The phrase for no youth gradually spread online
53:23
and became a new buzzword. The Guangzhou municipal Committee of
53:26
the Communist Youth League carried out a special survey on
53:29
the development of youth in Guangzhou and recovered 15,501
53:34
valid questionnaires. Among them more than 1200 were college
53:38
students and working youths who conform to the characteristics
53:41
of the four no
53:42
Adam Curry: AI is going to kill this show. I'll tell you that
53:45
right now.
53:46
John C Dvorak: What's the guy's actually credited as a voiceover
53:49
and I've heard that voice in China real dude, huh? Yeah, I
53:52
think so.
53:53
Adam Curry: What what are those four knows again?
53:56
Unknown: No dating no dating? Yeah.
53:59
John C Dvorak: No children no home? No marriage. Okay.
54:08
Adam Curry: Sounds like fun.
54:10
John C Dvorak: Sounds like fun. They also a part of this in this
54:13
in the life flats and there was some other thing which is
54:16
another kind of a youth movement that was going
54:19
Adam Curry: yeah, these are all youth movements by children who
54:23
have really been abused by neglect. Neglect,
54:27
John C Dvorak: you know when I was a kid, yes. We besides the
54:32
fact that we had long recesses and in a lot of sports and a lot
54:36
of PE whether you liked it or not
54:40
Adam Curry: forced forced fit we've
54:42
John C Dvorak: had we had a community center where there
54:46
were dances like all generals every Friday and Saturday
54:50
dancers Yeah, like there's no dances anymore. They used to be
54:53
sock hops at the in the gym at least once every month or every,
54:58
every couple weeks. Dance classes. Everyone would go to
55:02
dance class when I was in fifth grade. They taught us all the
55:05
dances cha cha cha Mambo, you name it.
55:10
Adam Curry: I'll bet you can cut a rug John C. Dvorak.
55:15
John C Dvorak: Give me some scissors I can. So there are all
55:20
these activities to keep kids busy and socializing. I don't
55:26
know that they exist anymore. In fact, this little middle school
55:29
over here where they had a giant playground the playground has
55:33
been turned into a parking lot. And there's still a baseball
55:36
field out Well, what happened to the basketball? We had
55:40
Adam Curry: Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts and they were separate
55:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I had Boy Yeah, I was in the boy scouts
55:46
and there was also the Cub Scouts sees something the girls
55:49
had I wasn't like for brownies brownies brownies brown brownies
55:54
we had wide Dave Dave destroyed those by you know claiming I've
55:58
never I was in the boy scouts for quite a while I never had
56:01
ran to a pedophile would have known him I guess if I had but
56:07
there was things to do. And there was a lots of lots of
56:11
events that were oriented for kids it was for the kids the
56:14
dances at the at the community center ward for adults we all
56:18
was a bunch of teenage we also I was one of the record spinner we
56:21
Adam Curry: went out and we had rock fights we throw rocks until
56:25
someone got hit in the head and like oh crap the guys bleeding
56:28
alright and of rock fight. We hit a ball around yeah, now let
56:35
me hit my clip to hear of this no for no youth.
56:38
Unknown: The document emphasizes that the four no phenomena
56:41
should be transformed into four wants ie want to date want to
56:45
get married, want to buy a home and want to have children. These
56:49
four noes are also known as the four emptiness is on the Chinese
56:52
internet. The four emptiness is was originally a term from
56:56
ancient cultivation culture in China, referring to the need to
56:59
eliminate the four attachments to fame, profit, anger and lust.
57:03
Usually it is a term to describe the life and mental state of
57:07
monks and nuns in temples. Nowadays, young Chinese people
57:11
whether you like it or not have chosen to move closer to the
57:14
state of the for emptiness is according to the current trend.
57:17
Young people don't need to buy cars and electric bicycles.
57:21
Instead, they can just buy electric wheelchairs. The future
57:24
looks great for young people who get into wheelchairs in advance.
57:28
To borrow the title of a Chinese media report young people
57:31
driving electric wheelchairs now is to save them 30 years of
57:35
detours. The CCP may not have imagined that such a bizarre
57:39
scenario would happen under its rule.
57:42
Adam Curry: I don't care what you say that's an AI voice that
57:44
guy is that's not a real guy that maybe his voice may be
57:46
sampled or something but that's
57:48
John C Dvorak: yeah, what is a voice and others that's report
57:51
Adam Curry: so so we have all of these behavioral issues
57:55
including a generation which is very egotistic egotistical. The
58:00
only think of themselves even our girls who are kind of you
58:04
know, they're not Zers but some of them are close. You know,
58:09
they missed what
58:11
John C Dvorak: they said they're not what
58:13
Adam Curry: Gen Z ears. They're closed. Okay, yeah. Zers Zoomer?
58:17
Yeah, does Zoomers but here in the United States we may not
58:21
have the four noes yet but we have something new
58:24
Unknown: loud quitting. That's the trend now working overtime,
58:27
with employees becoming ultimately unhappy on the job.
58:30
And Alexis christoforous is here with the details. Good morning
58:33
again, Alexis.
58:34
Good morning and God forget about quiet quitting. Now
58:37
frustrated employees are loud quitting instead of just doing
58:40
the bare minimum and silently checking out of their jobs loud
58:44
quitters are actively disengaged in the workplace, and they're
58:47
not afraid to show it. A new Gallup Poll finds about one in
58:50
five workers are loudly tossing in the towel and it goes beyond
58:54
being unhappy on the job. It's about being stressed out and fed
58:58
up. Loud. quitters are resentful that their needs aren't being
59:01
met and they're acting out doing things like sending disruptive
59:05
emails making inappropriate outbursts at work, undermining
59:08
their company's goals and bad mouthing their boss on social
59:12
media. The poll finds loud quitting is not something
59:14
management can afford to ignore. disengaged workers can be bad
59:18
for company morale, and cost the global economy $8.8 trillion
59:23
employees revealing they value talking openly with their
59:26
manager having more control over their daily responsibilities and
59:29
having a fair shot at being promoted. Experts say leaders
59:33
should check in with employees regularly help them find purpose
59:36
in their work and make them feel valued and connected to their
59:39
team. As for workers, experts say before you loud or quiet
59:43
quit, take a beat, decide what you really want from that next
59:46
opportunity and make sure you're running towards the next job
59:50
instead of running away from the current one.
59:53
Adam Curry: This is a broken generation.
59:56
John C Dvorak: There are a lot of tick tock videos of these
59:59
have These loud quitters. Yeah. I'm sorry, I
1:00:04
Adam Curry: didn't need to bring them.
1:00:06
John C Dvorak: I think I did a couple of shows back but the
1:00:10
I'll get some more of them. I don't understand it. It's like
1:00:14
mostly women. And they come and they scream and moan and groan
1:00:20
about they're coming and they're making a big fuss on Twitter I'm
1:00:23
sorry on Tik Tok. And it's like, what are you? Why are you doing
1:00:28
this? I mean, what is the point? What are you trying to
1:00:31
accomplish? What does this prove
1:00:33
Adam Curry: this? This can only be children who live with their
1:00:38
parents, or their parents are backstopping, because that's
1:00:41
another thing that my generation is doing a very poor job of,
1:00:46
Hey, sit on it. Remember, I used to was that a 50s thing? Sit on
1:00:51
it, sit on it, Fonzie. You, you you created this, you figure it
1:00:56
out, it's your problem. I'm not gonna I'm not going to help you
1:00:58
out. I'm not going to pay your rent. I'm not going to while you
1:01:01
figure out your life of being a douche at work, our fault, our
1:01:05
fault. And then let's just add, you know, we already know all
1:01:09
the drugs, all the drugs that the kids are on, they're all on
1:01:12
it. Because Oh, whoa, the science says ADHD add
1:01:18
depression. And now let's just add the food. And we have been
1:01:25
tracking on this show one ingredient in food for many
1:01:28
years. It goes back to when the CEO of the company that made the
1:01:33
product at the time entered government and the the product
1:01:38
had been rejected by the Food and Drug Administration time
1:01:41
after time after time. But once that CEO Donald Rumsfeld got
1:01:46
into government, the aspartame was approved. And we've we have
1:01:52
discussed the the drawbacks of aspartame on on no agenda for
1:01:56
years. In fact, we got tired of it after a while Hey, you don't
1:02:00
drink your aspartame. And so now now we have
1:02:08
John C Dvorak: we burned that one out like a decade ago I
1:02:10
Adam Curry: was so tired of talking about it. Like yeah,
1:02:13
it's cancers What does a lung Rumsfeld love? Blah blah lots of
1:02:17
other things a lot of other things that aspartame can do to
1:02:20
you and it probably doing a lot to kids brains. But anyway, it's
1:02:24
hot in the news today. So let's run the stories tonight
1:02:26
Unknown: the World Health Organization just out with a new
1:02:28
report involving the popular artificial sweetener aspartame
1:02:31
found in Diet Coke other diet drinks.
1:02:33
Adam Curry: What is popular? Is there anyone who's like oh, it
1:02:36
has aspartame. I'm gonna have this drink because I like
1:02:39
aspartame. Is that what it means to be popular? What do you
1:02:43
think?
1:02:46
John C Dvorak: I think that's a he's using the word popular
1:02:49
correctly, in that it's used a lot.
1:02:52
Unknown: Okay, you're aspartame found in Diet Coke, other diet
1:02:56
drinks, gum and other products. Late today, the World Health
1:02:59
Organization's International Agency for Cancer Research
1:03:01
classifying aspartame as a possible carcinogen possible.
1:03:05
It's saying evidence is limited and more research is needed.
1:03:08
After reviewing the data the FDA in this country saying it
1:03:11
disagrees, insisting FDA scientists do not have safety
1:03:14
concerns. It's safe and effective. There is some concern
1:03:17
that all this data could confuse consumers so of course we'll
1:03:20
stay on it. Medical experts do agree on one thing and that is
1:03:23
more study is needed.
1:03:24
Adam Curry: This is the this is the interesting commonality. It
1:03:28
may confuse consumers. So that's what the news is telling us.
1:03:32
This may confuse consumer FDA, you know this World Health
1:03:37
Organization. You're confusing consumers, not people who want
1:03:44
to know about their health consumers. Don't confuse
1:03:48
consumers. We need them to consume our product. Let's bring
1:03:51
in Dr. Jenn Ashton.
1:03:54
Unknown: Okay, we are back now with our GMA cover story and a
1:03:56
new report about the popular artificial popular
1:03:59
Adam Curry: there it is. It's popular. They're reading from a
1:04:01
press release
1:04:02
Unknown: sweetener, aspartame, and cancer risk. Our CHIEF
1:04:06
MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT Dr. Jennifer Ashton,
1:04:08
Adam Curry: I'd love to be a CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT
1:04:11
doesn't our chief podcast correspondent that makes it
1:04:14
sound like such like She's real. Oh, yeah, she's she's probably
1:04:17
official. She may have a uniform. She's actually come to
1:04:20
work in a uniform
1:04:21
Unknown: cancer risk. Our CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT Dr.
1:04:24
Jennifer Ashton is here with a reality check. Great to see you.
1:04:28
This is getting so much attention especially from diet
1:04:31
soda drinkers. Can you break this down for us? So
1:04:34
as you mentioned aspartame, it's been around since the 1980s.
1:04:37
It's in diet soda beverages, chewing gum, it's in a lot of
1:04:40
things as an artificial sweetener. The bottom line based
1:04:43
on this newly reported study that came out yesterday from the
1:04:46
World Health Organization for the average person consuming an
1:04:50
average amount of this ingredient. Nothing needs to
1:04:53
change but take a look at this list because there are numerous
1:04:57
or professional organizations that have we Get in on this some
1:05:01
finding different you know bottom lines than others. The
1:05:05
eye the eye aarC which is the research arm of the World Health
1:05:09
Organization saying it might be a possible carcinogen causing
1:05:13
cancer that's their second lowest by the way of
1:05:15
designations,
1:05:16
Adam Curry: by the way, that's their second lowest. I mean,
1:05:18
it's just like climate change possibly could be might be, you
1:05:21
know, it could kind of happen, but it's low. I hope it doesn't
1:05:25
confuse consumers, the FDA
1:05:27
Unknown: saying they do not have safety concerns, the World
1:05:30
Health Organization saying it's safe. So they all kind of need
1:05:34
to get on the same page. There's a lot of controversy there.
1:05:36
There's a lot of qualifying remarks may be potential
1:05:41
possibility needs more research will continue to be monitored.
1:05:44
But for right now, nothing needs to change unless you are
1:05:47
consuming massive, how much what are we talking about? Well, what
1:05:50
they said is they they're giving a dose and a calculation kind of
1:05:54
for the average risk for the average weight person. 40
1:05:57
milligrams per kilogram of body weight per day. What does that
1:06:01
translate into nine to 14 cans of 12 ounce cans of soda for the
1:06:05
average size adult weighing 140 pounds, you guys, that's a lot.
1:06:11
That's a lot of soda. And that's a lot of aspartame. But it comes
1:06:14
down to this basic premise, premise and principle in
1:06:17
toxicology, which is dose and frequency. Anything can be toxic
1:06:21
if you take it enough in a higher dose.
1:06:24
Adam Curry: Oh, thanks, Dr. Jen. I feel so much better about
1:06:27
giving my child aspartame, by the way, nine cans of soda a
1:06:32
day. I think there's a lot of people who drink that much. But
1:06:36
that's not the definitive number. CNN has different data
1:06:39
Unknown: World Health Organization has determined that
1:06:41
one of the most commonly used artificial sweeteners aspartame
1:06:45
should be put in what it describes as the quote, possibly
1:06:48
carcinogenic to humans category. Aspartame is of course found in
1:06:53
many products ranging from sugar free gum to diet sodas, can of
1:06:57
diet soda can typically have about 100 milligrams of aspirin.
1:07:01
There we go. Can diet soda of aspartame, and under the WHO
1:07:05
guidelines, someone weighing 184 pounds could safely drink up to
1:07:08
33 cans of diet soda a day before breaking the threshold?
1:07:14
Like a bad idea. A lot you can count on. So CNN MEDICAL
1:07:19
CORRESPONDENT Meg Terrell is going to tell us should you be
1:07:21
drinking? Can we have a reality check here? Do you realize how
1:07:27
much would be necessary to hit the threshold? Do people need to
1:07:29
be changing?
1:07:30
Adam Curry: Listen people the sponsors of called we need to
1:07:33
attack this head on we need to tell everybody that unless
1:07:36
you're a crazy person and drinking so much of this stuff,
1:07:39
you have nothing to worry about
1:07:42
Unknown: how much aspartame they're consuming based on what
1:07:44
was released yesterday. Yeah, but
1:07:46
also not based on this that is from the WHO itself actually.
1:07:50
And so aspartame Of course, we know very common sweetener used
1:07:53
in 1000s of different products from diet sodas, like the 33 You
1:07:57
just saw on the screen. Things like tabletop sweeteners,
1:08:00
breakfast cereal, chewing gum, even, you know medicines, like
1:08:03
cough drops or chewable vitamins, things and so the who
1:08:07
took a look at this this has been a decade's long sort of
1:08:09
project that's
1:08:11
Adam Curry: looking Why is she laughing?
1:08:15
Unknown: Who took a look at this. This has been a decade's
1:08:17
long sort of project that scientists have been looking at.
1:08:20
And what Dr. Francesco Branca the Director of the Department
1:08:24
of Nutrition and Food Safety at the who said about this review
1:08:27
is that quote, while safety is not a major concern at the doses
1:08:30
which are commonly used, potential effects have been
1:08:33
described that need to be investigated by more and better
1:08:36
studies.
1:08:38
Adam Curry: This is, I mean, we've heard a lot of these types
1:08:41
of scare stories that are meant to you know, get you off of eggs
1:08:44
because they want you eating something else to get you off of
1:08:46
beef because the chicken industry wants to eat chicken.
1:08:49
This is new. This is a clearly not a good product. But you know
1:08:54
only if you drink a lot of it only if you consume a lot. Is it
1:08:57
cumulative. If you take the cough drops and the vitamins and
1:09:01
the Coca Cola and the toothpaste and everything. It doesn't add
1:09:04
up. I mean, I haven't Dr. Jen didn't tell me about that. These
1:09:09
people are ghouls, groups, ghouls. And then if that was a
1:09:15
theme for today's show, if that wasn't crazy enough, they now
1:09:20
we're marketing a product developed in 1966 in Germany,
1:09:28
and we're just slapping a new name on it which generic as far
1:09:31
as I know. And it's the biggest news ever.
1:09:34
Unknown: FDA scientists do not have safety concerns. There is
1:09:37
some concern that all of this data could confuse consumers so
1:09:40
of course we'll stay on it. Medical experts do agree on one
1:09:43
thing and that is more study is needed. That major change here
1:09:46
in the US and reproductive health care affecting millions
1:09:49
of women in this country. The FDA approving Oh pill the first
1:09:52
over the counter birth control pill. It will likely be
1:09:55
available in drugstores convenience stores online
1:09:58
without a doctor's prescription early next Hear that decision
1:10:01
significantly expanding access to birth control for women of
1:10:03
all ages and comes amid heated debate about the availability of
1:10:06
contraception and abortion rights following the Supreme
1:10:09
Court's ruling overturning roe
1:10:11
Adam Curry: So you heard how they went from one into the
1:10:13
other. This is nor gestural or nor gestural however you
1:10:16
pronounce it, developed in 1966 has been approved in the United
1:10:20
States for years and years and years. Now of course it's I
1:10:23
guess the birth control pill used to be something that was
1:10:27
prescribed by your doctor in consultation with your parents
1:10:31
and you know, like I think little Tammy should be on the
1:10:33
pill. Well yes, she was going off to college and going into
1:10:36
high school you know, never know what could happen. So now it's
1:10:38
just yeah, just over the counter, but their marketing is
1:10:41
something completely new FDA approved when the
1:10:44
Unknown: pill called Oh pill hits drugstore shelves, women
1:10:46
will be able to access hormonal contraception without needing to
1:10:49
visit a doctor for prescription. The FDA approval comes amid
1:10:53
renewed legal fights over women's reproductive rights,
1:10:55
specifically the agency's authority to approve the common
1:10:58
medication abortion pill myth, infant Bristow NBC News
1:11:02
correspondent Ann Thompson has more on this news of the over
1:11:05
the counter pill and and and I got to ask first one pill does
1:11:10
not fit all women hear so this is one pill. How soon before you
1:11:17
know because different
1:11:18
Adam Curry: he's you think he's reading a script? One pill it's
1:11:20
one pill is one pill. It's just one pill. One pill.
1:11:24
Unknown: Different pills work better for different for women,
1:11:27
depending? When will we start to see a variety of this on the
1:11:31
shelves? If
1:11:32
that's what advocates hope that we will see eventually this is
1:11:36
just the first contraceptive that we will see on an over the
1:11:40
counter basis, Chuck. But the key here is really the issue
1:11:44
driving this is all about access. And the belief is the
1:11:48
this pill called Oh pill which is a mini pill it's just one
1:11:52
project. It is will it is approved for women of all
1:11:57
reproductive ages that includes teenagers. And the hope is is
1:12:02
that this will help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies
1:12:05
in this country. There are 6.1 million pregnancies every year
1:12:10
in this country, about half of them are unintended. And the
1:12:13
belief is now that you can go to the you will be able to go to
1:12:15
the drugstore or the grocery store or order these pills
1:12:18
online online and help reduce that number that should happen
1:12:22
at the beginning of next year. But the big question tonight is
1:12:25
how much will these pills costs and the manufacturer has not put
1:12:29
a price on it only to say that they will be affordable.
1:12:35
Adam Curry: This is really menopausal hormone therapy by
1:12:37
the way. I love how they go so deep into aspartame. But you
1:12:43
know is this okay? Is this is this okay? For teenagers? Um,
1:12:47
you combine a keyboard one pill to mini pill?
1:12:50
John C Dvorak: That must be it must be good. I
1:12:52
Adam Curry: mean, does it work? Could it have any long term
1:12:54
effects?
1:12:57
John C Dvorak: But then they bring an expert on No, no. No
1:13:00
extra no expert knew what you played was a native ad.
1:13:04
Adam Curry: Thank you. Of course.
1:13:07
John C Dvorak: Want to get back to the nutty teen problem? Okay,
1:13:11
they have more.
1:13:12
Adam Curry: This is part of it. I mean, it's not like that by
1:13:14
the way. You have a buzz today for some not not like a buzz
1:13:17
like you're buzzing my homeless. I mean, let me listen to you.
1:13:20
You have a like a ground loop or something's I can hear it
1:13:26
changed nothing. No, sorry. Well, the
1:13:29
John C Dvorak: thing could be something laying on top of
1:13:31
something that always happens I don't have enough those magnets.
1:13:33
Adam Curry: Wow, it's not now that I can hear it is really
1:13:36
bad. Is there something there must be you must be something
1:13:39
laying on top of something. You got to
1:13:41
Unknown: move things around. Oh, stop.
1:13:43
Adam Curry: It just went away. What did you move?
1:13:46
John C Dvorak: A power supply? No way.
1:13:51
Adam Curry: Did you have it wrapped around the mic or
1:13:53
John C Dvorak: something? No, it's next to one of the filters.
1:13:56
Adam Curry: Thank you. It's gone. It's gone.
1:14:01
Unknown: That was a good one.
1:14:03
John C Dvorak: So and I was gonna put this earlier because I
1:14:08
because it actually applies to it. And I was gonna add Mimi's
1:14:11
listening to the show specifically for this
1:14:13
presentation.
1:14:14
Adam Curry: Oh, it doesn't come from our favorite source. You
1:14:18
got it. Tick tock tock tick tock.
1:14:27
John C Dvorak: But I don't know what order to play me I was
1:14:30
thinking about I'm gonna play it in the worst order. Now there
1:14:32
was I'm gonna play the best one first. Because that's the one
1:14:35
that triggered the whole the other the collection of the
1:14:38
other clips.
1:14:38
Adam Curry: Okay, I've seen this. I'm very happy. You
1:14:41
brought this to the show today.
1:14:42
John C Dvorak: And it has to do with it's a new term called time
1:14:46
blind. Yes. And the worst case example is this. Just I'm
1:14:52
guessing she's a younger millennial. And she's bitching
1:14:55
about the fact that everyone should change their way of life
1:14:58
for her which is very common on tick tock. And this is the Tick
1:15:04
Tock time blind, just a straight up clip.
1:15:07
Unknown: So I just got yelled out for asking a very reasonable
1:15:10
question. So I'm flying to go somewhere. And I just wanted to
1:15:13
know, are there accommodations for people struggle with time
1:15:15
blindness and being on time, you know, and then the person I was
1:15:19
with, interrupted and acted like, I was asking something
1:15:22
else. And then when we were done, they actually started
1:15:25
yelling at me and saying that accommodations for time
1:15:27
blindness doesn't exist. And if you've struggled being on time,
1:15:29
you'll never be able to get a job, you know, provided you're
1:15:32
trying your absolute best to be there. And then they're like,
1:15:36
your stupid generation wants to destroy the workplace. And yeah,
1:15:40
I think that a culture where workers are just cut off because
1:15:43
they struggle with being on time, when there's other
1:15:45
solutions that we can look to. I think that just anybody who
1:15:48
thinks it's okay to just treat people like that, yeah, that
1:15:51
culture needs to be dismantled. And then I asked that person how
1:15:55
can you feel good about yourself upholding this kind of system?
1:15:58
And then to think I'm entitled know if people think it's okay
1:16:01
to treat others like this? That's entitlement.
1:16:04
Adam Curry: I watched this clip I didn't see it on tick tock, of
1:16:08
course, because I refuse. I watched this three times
1:16:12
thinking, Is this a joke? And I concluded after three views that
1:16:18
she was serious. Oh, yeah. By the way, what happened to tick
1:16:23
tock being kicked out of America How come that hasn't happened?
1:16:25
Hmm.
1:16:26
John C Dvorak: You keep bringing that up?
1:16:28
Adam Curry: I just want to remind everybody that was that
1:16:30
was the big news a month ago.
1:16:33
John C Dvorak: It's not even discuss for some reason. Well,
1:16:35
Adam Curry: no, of course not. It's great.
1:16:38
John C Dvorak: So this woman who's who talk about a
1:16:42
privileged jerk really thinks that everyone should cuz she
1:16:47
can't be on time. Well, why Why can't she be accommodated She's
1:16:50
Adam Curry: a victim John, she has a she's neurodivergent
1:16:57
John C Dvorak: now Mimi can never be on time. But you have
1:16:59
what we do is we trick her and make her
1:17:02
Adam Curry: 30 minutes earlier.
1:17:04
John C Dvorak: We do all those sorts of things. And when she
1:17:06
really has to be on time, she is on time. But that brings us to
1:17:10
the people who are discussing times blindness.
1:17:15
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I need to stop for a second it only
1:17:17
because you brought up Mimi and I know she's listening. I was
1:17:20
not aware that she is time blind. was not aware that you
1:17:24
know, y'all trick her into coming on time come to being
1:17:28
places on time. Because when Mimi wants something from me on
1:17:32
time, she's a Nazi. She will She will. She will send me emails
1:17:38
nag nag subject nag nag nag nag. Yeah. Wow. And Colonel black.
1:17:44
Wow. Okay.
1:17:45
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, as it did, on time with
1:17:48
documents to the government is a little different than showing up
1:17:52
for a play on time when you missed the first act. So, okay,
1:17:58
let's go to the let's go to the time blind therapist,
1:18:01
Unknown: oh brother, alright, tick tock, here
1:18:03
are five signs that you are time blind. Number one, you are
1:18:06
either way too early or way too late to something. The idea of
1:18:09
being on time is a completely foreign concept to you. Number
1:18:12
two, you wildly underestimate the amount of things you can get
1:18:14
done in a short amount of time, but you wildly overestimate the
1:18:17
amount of stuff you can get done in a long amount of time. Number
1:18:19
three, all of your stories start with the other day. It could
1:18:21
have been yesterday, it could have been 14 years ago. Doesn't
1:18:23
matter the other day. Number four, you struggle with
1:18:26
emotional object permanence. If you're not feeling it right now,
1:18:28
it's hard to tell when you felt it before and sometimes it just
1:18:31
doesn't feel real at all. And number five, if you have a
1:18:34
meeting or an appointment at some point later in the day, you
1:18:36
have trouble starting things because you don't want to get
1:18:38
sucked into them and accidentally miss your
1:18:40
appointment. Something you've learned the hard way, if you
1:18:42
relate to this. Hi, my name is Megan. I'm a mental wellness
1:18:44
coach and I can't help you perceive time passing better
1:18:47
because people who are timelines simply don't perceive the
1:18:50
passage of time the same way that colorblind people don't
1:18:53
perceive color, but I can help you find tools to make your life
1:18:55
a lot easier.
1:18:57
Adam Curry: Okay, I've just changed my name from Adam curry
1:18:59
podcast to Adam curry, mental wellness coach. This is a new
1:19:04
vocation I want I want to be a mental wellness coach now, is
1:19:08
this not something that college is supposed to definitely teach
1:19:13
you how to do before you enter the workplace, regular school,
1:19:16
how to organize your work, how to get to get your reports done
1:19:20
on time grammar
1:19:21
John C Dvorak: school, high school college you don't need if
1:19:25
you haven't learned by then
1:19:27
Adam Curry: well then college you learn how to get things done
1:19:29
on time and get blindly drunk. That's that's really cool.
1:19:33
John C Dvorak: There's a socialization exercise. Okay,
1:19:36
I'll take it. Yeah. Let's go with the that's a therapist. And
1:19:41
then we have a an ADHD girl who kind of incorporates time
1:19:46
blindness into her problems, brother. Okay,
1:19:49
Unknown: let's do an ADHD experiment. Close your eyes. Now
1:19:53
with your dominant hand point to the future. Open your eyes and
1:19:57
notice where your hand is pointing. This is an X This is
1:20:00
created by ADHD author Tom Harmon. Okay.
1:20:04
Adam Curry: I close my eyes and I pointed upwards, forward and
1:20:07
upward. That was my future. I just want everyone to know I did
1:20:10
the experiment and it's used to point forward. I said, I pointed
1:20:14
up forward and upward.
1:20:17
John C Dvorak: Like, like, I think you're okay, you're you're
1:20:20
neurotypical,
1:20:21
Adam Curry: are you sure? I'm worried? Well, I don't know.
1:20:23
Let's find out.
1:20:24
Unknown: Let's find it by ADHD author Tom Hartman. And it's
1:20:27
used to demonstrate
1:20:29
Adam Curry: I pointed forward 45 degree angle with my hand flat.
1:20:32
Is that okay? with
1:20:37
Unknown: ADHD have a different experience of time, it's pretty
1:20:40
common for neurotypical people to point in front of them in
1:20:43
reference to the future, whereas people with ADHD tend not to do
1:20:46
this. People with ADHD are very present oriented. And
1:20:49
oftentimes, when we have like life narratives, they're very
1:20:52
nonlinear because our sense of time is really nonlinear. And
1:20:55
we're not just talking about like time on your watch. Like,
1:20:58
it's hard for us to tell how long 15 minutes is, but also it
1:21:01
can be hard for us to tell if something happened like weeks
1:21:03
ago, or months ago or years ago, which can contribute to
1:21:05
difficulties in so many areas of life, like Miss credit card
1:21:08
payments, staying connected with friends, and preparing for
1:21:10
future needs. Luckily, there's a lot we can do for this my
1:21:13
personal favorites that one of my friends does, she keeps a log
1:21:15
of how long it takes her to do everything. So she has realistic
1:21:18
time expectations for those simple tasks.
1:21:20
Adam Curry: I think I know why this happened. I Do I Do you
1:21:23
have a fourth clip? Or do we have more?
1:21:25
John C Dvorak: The fourth clips, the same clip play this the
1:21:27
fourth clip? I think it's the same clip we just listened to
1:21:29
Unknown: let's do an ADHD experiment. Because
1:21:33
Adam Curry: here's, here's what I think is happening.
1:21:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what is happening? Because one goes back
1:21:38
again, to me, me and other people. I've known all my life.
1:21:41
I've known women that can never be on time.
1:21:45
Adam Curry: Women Women, is this more women thing than a men
1:21:47
thing? To me it
1:21:49
John C Dvorak: is. And yeah, if you want to call it misogyny, I
1:21:52
just this observational, okay?
1:21:55
Adam Curry: Well, I can't speak for me, me, but I think I can
1:21:58
speak for this younger generation, the minute they gave
1:22:01
up the analog clock, something that you wear on your wrist
1:22:05
where you can get a feeling by from time to time glad, you
1:22:09
John C Dvorak: know, this is genius fan, I'm gonna give you a
1:22:12
points for that points. Start over because I think this may
1:22:17
have something to do with it. And I will also incorporate the
1:22:21
fact that they can't write in longhand, or what they like to
1:22:24
call a cursive. When that's a continuum. Instead of a black
1:22:28
black black letter letter letter. It is a continuum, just
1:22:32
like an analog clock when the analog clock left, so did the
1:22:35
cursive.
1:22:35
Adam Curry: When my grandmother when I was five, I think four or
1:22:38
five, my grandmother gave me a Mickey Mouse watch. And I love
1:22:44
it. Because you know, you had big hand little hand. And I
1:22:47
would wear it all day long. And you know, my mom would say, you
1:22:51
know, like, you know, be home at this time used to be when the
1:22:54
street lights were on. Or just because it's on your wrist. And
1:22:59
you could look at glance at it like okay, and then you get a
1:23:02
sense over time, you get a sense of how long 15 minutes is,
1:23:06
because it's always there. When it's your phone and it's
1:23:09
digital. You just, it's just numbers, you lose the sense of
1:23:15
the Hour of the circle that you're completing. It's a
1:23:18
completion of time. And I think we know that many Zoomers cannot
1:23:25
even tell time from a analog clock that just not taught
1:23:30
anymore. And I think that is part of the problem is that
1:23:35
inherent training you receive and I say training as a kid
1:23:40
wearing a wristwatch just glance and now you know not everyone
1:23:45
has a has, you know the Apple Watch or some other version of
1:23:50
it and it's all digital. I mean yeah, you can you can set them
1:23:53
analog but I must admit most people don't I'm when I had one
1:23:57
for the short period of time I had one I had analog. I enjoy
1:24:01
analog. It gives me a what do you call it sense of time? I
1:24:07
think that's that's where the problem is. And
1:24:09
John C Dvorak: by the way and explain to older women that are
1:24:13
Adam Curry: I'm not again, I can't explain older women and
1:24:15
the only way that
1:24:16
John C Dvorak: phenomenon is exaggerated currently is like
1:24:18
for doesn't mean you were
1:24:19
Adam Curry: awash in China. And he says mean you wear a watch.
1:24:23
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I don't think so. Oh, there you
1:24:25
go. Maybe she has Oh, she has a clock in her on her cell phone
1:24:30
like Oh, everyone they care that follow around all the time and
1:24:33
you just look at that boom, you know what time it is
1:24:34
Adam Curry: maybe give her Mickey Mouse watch to see if
1:24:36
anything changes. She will wear it so that is probably what's
1:24:42
going on here with these kids. And it's it's not something you
1:24:45
can just solve, you know, learning time the completion of
1:24:50
15 minutes an hour, half an hour. It's something that takes
1:24:54
a little while for you to get into it. You know, you you get a
1:24:56
sense of oh, that's how many minutes pass probably 15 Oh,
1:25:00
yeah. 13 Okay, I was close. You get a sense of that.
1:25:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, cuz it's flowing. Yes.
1:25:07
Unknown: Wow.
1:25:10
Adam Curry: I don't know where to go from here.
1:25:12
John C Dvorak: Well, I would like to make one more comment
1:25:14
about the for about the kids here. And they're being
1:25:18
sterilized and the rest of them into kids in China and elsewhere
1:25:21
there. And in cells and scientific lack of dances, and
1:25:26
the lack of socialization and everything else going on. It's
1:25:30
creating a group of people. And I think the foreign knows are
1:25:33
the best example of no dating no marriage. That may be you know,
1:25:38
how we talk about how the Coronavirus was kind of created
1:25:43
in a lab. And then it was okay, it was created in a lab. And it
1:25:48
would always kind of deteriorate into back to bowl fashion
1:25:53
coronaviruses you know, just kind of a common cold stuff. We
1:25:56
were just is it possible to societies, which are kind of
1:26:00
created, create, create situations that deteriorate back
1:26:05
into what is more natural, which is a bunch of narrative? Well,
1:26:10
males hanging out with each other. I mean, I've known these
1:26:13
guy kind of guys forever. They don't care about women, and they
1:26:17
don't, you know, chase after him if they do us for one night
1:26:20
stands mostly that the original societies may this may be the
1:26:25
reason for kind of planned marriages where you owe grab
1:26:33
someone, so you have to marry this person, because you're not
1:26:36
going to do anything anyway, otherwise. And so all these
1:26:40
arranged marriages historically, really stemmed back from the
1:26:44
delay the natural laziness of humans not to even want to
1:26:48
interact much. Hmm. And we're deteriorating back toward that
1:26:53
very possible. I like that. We're already deteriorating. I
1:26:56
think we've concluded that on this show,
1:26:58
Adam Curry: well, you know what this all leads to this all leads
1:27:00
to universal basic income. It does. Yeah, it does. It does.
1:27:06
It's already being trialed all over the world. I think that 30
1:27:09
states in America are already trialing universal basic income.
1:27:14
Now and then you can just anybody can be a gig worker
1:27:18
anybody can if you got it you can get a driver's license you
1:27:21
can be you can drive for Uber Eats you can drive for Uber not
1:27:25
for Lyft they're almost broke. Yeah, you can you can drive for
1:27:28
Amazon. It's going right back to to snow Crusher rating scale and
1:27:35
right back to Snow Crash the book went out the only thing on
1:27:38
the street is FedEx and Domino's Pizza delivery. Everyone else
1:27:42
has just in the metaverse although that didn't pan out it
1:27:48
is deteriorating, but I think it's there's a it may even be
1:27:53
this is actually a Mo Mo theory. Most theory is that the elites
1:27:58
of the world who really run the show they're keeping an eye on
1:28:01
people who are not buying into it they that's what they really
1:28:04
want they want the survivors they want the people who are not
1:28:07
going to buy and all the no
1:28:08
John C Dvorak: agenda listener yes it is the producers are all
1:28:12
survivors.
1:28:12
Adam Curry: That's right. And with that I'd like to thank you
1:28:15
for your courage to say in the morning to the man who put the
1:28:17
sea in the sock hops ladies and gentlemen please say hello to my
1:28:20
friend on the other end the one and only Mr. Johnson tomorrow
1:28:29
John C Dvorak: morning to you Mr. Adam curry also in the
1:28:31
morning all ships as he boots on the ground feet in the air subs
1:28:34
in the water and all the days tools and
1:28:45
Adam Curry: I think I got them all 2434
1:28:50
John C Dvorak: almost dead average.
1:28:51
Adam Curry: Well, we got a note from Kendall. I know our
1:28:56
John C Dvorak: petrol station, no agenda statistician and the
1:29:00
no he's actually the no agenda troll room statistician.
1:29:03
Adam Curry: Yes. And he says Thursday's average 1876 Sunday's
1:29:09
average 2200. So we're about 150 above average today. Which is
1:29:16
odd because we have below average donations.
1:29:20
John C Dvorak: We didn't get any donations. We did get some but
1:29:23
we got no donations. I don't understand exactly. Why can we
1:29:26
have 1000s I mean, there's more people in the troll room, not to
1:29:30
mention to 10,000 or 20 or 30 or 50 or 100 or a million people
1:29:35
that listen to this show that know about it. And we get 19
1:29:40
Total donations over $50 Today that's ridiculous. No, I'm
1:29:43
sorry. Make it 18 I always forget the one is a bunch of it
1:29:47
doesn't have anything in it.
1:29:49
Adam Curry: We have a spreadsheet. According to the
1:29:51
open source op three statistics run by John Spurlock, which is
1:29:56
part of the podcasting 2.0 Group. 980,000 monthly unique
1:30:02
listeners. And, and I think that's about right. In the way
1:30:11
we've done now. So we could actually do if if we had content
1:30:17
that was brand friendly and brand suitable, we could
1:30:21
actually do okay with advertising.
1:30:23
John C Dvorak: Oh, I think we do a better we're doing today. Oh,
1:30:26
yeah,
1:30:26
Adam Curry: definitely. The but we chose for a different model,
1:30:30
we chose for the value for value model. And a lot of people
1:30:33
support us with value. I mean, we're getting boots on the
1:30:36
ground reports very valuable. We get artwork from artists very
1:30:40
valuable. We get jingles and of show mixes, meet up reports all
1:30:45
very valuable.
1:30:46
John C Dvorak: But you got a small patch today.
1:30:49
Adam Curry: Very valuable, great value. We love that kind of
1:30:52
value. But if everybody else is just sitting back and saying,
1:30:55
Well, you know what, and I'm neurodivergent. And I can't do
1:30:59
anything of any value. And you can't even spare a couple bucks
1:31:03
for the show that you listen to six hours a week, which is
1:31:07
almost half it's actually a full season of some Amazon shows.
1:31:13
John C Dvorak: It is six shows we're done. And by the way, we
1:31:16
know where's my royalties?
1:31:18
Adam Curry: We're not going on strike. You know, we we worked
1:31:22
through holidays, we work on the weekend.
1:31:26
John C Dvorak: Two weeks of this show is that is which is 12
1:31:31
hours is pretty typical of a season of most TV nowadays.
1:31:37
Yeah, oh shows 13 shows 1112 13 You see that a lot.
1:31:41
Adam Curry: So I find it hard to believe that you may only be
1:31:45
able to donate once a year fine. But not everybody's donating.
1:31:49
Not everybody's doing their part. A lot of you are hitting
1:31:52
people in the mouth. It's appreciate that's good. But we
1:31:54
also do need the treasure part. But it's up to you. It's your no
1:31:59
agenda show. We just put it all together and create it and bring
1:32:03
your spice. Everything else is up to you. So we appreciate the
1:32:08
trolls listening now. Yeah, those are the trolls that were
1:32:10
broke. Okay, sure you're broke? You can't afford $5. I mean,
1:32:16
that's hard to believe, party bleep. Some people actually
1:32:20
can't afford $5. But you know what they do? They go all out
1:32:22
and do other things. And they know, I know.
1:32:25
John C Dvorak: Don't listen to the show. Who doesn't listen to
1:32:28
the show? He can't afford $5 I doubt your listener.
1:32:32
Adam Curry: But people think oh, my $5 won't make a difference.
1:32:35
It makes a difference. It really does.
1:32:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we just had nothing but $5 for those
1:32:40
900,000.
1:32:41
Adam Curry: You know, most people worry most people. Most
1:32:44
people start a podcast and become very disillusioned
1:32:46
because they don't get value back. And they're thinking, Oh,
1:32:49
if I only can get 10,000 people listening, then I can have
1:32:53
enough for ads. And then they wind up with $40 at the end of
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the month. It's true. It's true. But getting value back from
1:33:01
people who and I'm talking about real contributions. I mean, send
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this even your notes, or it's an important part, the numerology
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you send along those with these donations are important or
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important. And if you haven't donated in a while and you
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haven't contributed with your other time or talent, consider
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it being time to send some treasure. You don't have to do
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it every single show. It doesn't have to be hundreds of dollars,
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whatever it whatever value you get out of it. We want you to
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send that back. That's all we've ever asked for. It's just this
1:33:31
was a very disappointingly low show. Is that purely the economy
1:33:35
back?
1:33:35
John C Dvorak: We're lucky we only had one we only have one
1:33:38
lone executive producer, which is a first Yeah, we haven't had
1:33:42
that kind of showing for years. years, maybe we would have we'd
1:33:46
go it'd be like semi five or six years ago there one show a year
1:33:51
we'd have no executive producer. We had to bump somebody up. Yep.
1:33:55
I don't know. We have to do that. Luckily gonna happen today
1:33:57
if that check in to come in.
1:33:59
Adam Curry: I know. But anyway, so far,
1:34:03
John C Dvorak: we're gonna stand here and complain bitterly you
1:34:06
don't go to the show is more interesting than us complaining
1:34:10
so
1:34:10
Adam Curry: far. So far, your contributions have allowed us to
1:34:13
do the job that we do, which consists of, excuse me,
1:34:19
continuous work. Day in day out. We are always doing no agenda.
1:34:25
People say, how many days do you work on your pocket? I said
1:34:28
seven days a week. What do you mean? Starts every morning.
1:34:32
Every morning, I go through all the emails and this is the ones
1:34:35
that are already filtered out. I usually have if I'm on track,
1:34:38
and I can keep it going. I have about 60 or 70 that are that are
1:34:44
have been filtered. And that's real stuff that I know is going
1:34:47
to be something's interesting. I can't skip a single one than I
1:34:50
have a separate email box. There's like five people who
1:34:54
send me 15 emails a day and 14 of Those are no good. Or the
1:35:01
repeats? No. But it's that one gem that I want so, and that box
1:35:08
has 70 a day. So go through the first I have a an alerts box
1:35:13
which says Tina, John Mimi, you know, maybe my kids know that
1:35:17
that's it. Then they just checked out, see if there's
1:35:19
anything important that came in. Then I go to the inbox. And
1:35:23
there's, we have clip collectors like Dave Ackerman, on show days
1:35:27
with clip custodian we have Neal Jones, we have Steve Jones with
1:35:31
the he's another clip collector. And they're extremely valuable
1:35:37
the work they do. Everything has to be evaluated every TR t f 24,
1:35:42
Deutsche Avella clip, every single one has to be looked at.
1:35:45
There's no There's no other people doing that here. There's
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no magic. And people are. Hey, do you answer your own email?
1:35:52
Uh, yeah, who else? That's the only way you can make a podcast
1:35:56
work. You can't hire staff in a podcast. That's why Spotify is
1:36:01
going broke. It hasn't they failed, they spent $2 billion on
1:36:06
buying these
1:36:06
John C Dvorak: Yes, this model is not radio.
1:36:08
Adam Curry: No, it's not. And radio was gonna go broke
1:36:11
eventually, too. That model doesn't work either. Anyway, and
1:36:18
I'm, I'm very grateful. I'm very grateful that we can do this,
1:36:21
but I just want you to know that there will be an end if if
1:36:24
that's the economy, that's the economy, then I'm gonna have to
1:36:26
go Which reminds me, I'll drive.
1:36:28
John C Dvorak: These assholes are closing Anchor Brewing. One
1:36:33
of the great the original, you know, kind of boutique brewery
1:36:37
in the world, or in the United States or in California at
1:36:41
least. And Anchor Brewing has been around for 127 years, I
1:36:45
believe. And bought by Sapporo a few years ago, and Sapporo can't
1:36:50
seem to run an American Brewery and they, they're going to
1:36:53
shutter it. And the thing is, is worth about $45 million. And
1:36:59
there's not one Silicon Valley billionaire. You can't just pick
1:37:05
this thing up and and run it through, let it run itself or
1:37:09
give it to the employees or do a million different things.
1:37:11
There's no Elon Musk, or any number of hyper wealthy in the
1:37:18
Bay Area, which there's tons of that can can pick up the slack
1:37:22
on this. As soon as gone.
1:37:26
Adam Curry: No, clearly, no one found that valuable enough. For
1:37:32
him, other things are more valuable to them, like space
1:37:34
exploration. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
1:37:41
Unknown: Any laws or art?
1:37:42
Adam Curry: Well, no. Before we do that, I want to remind
1:37:44
everybody that you too can become a troll for free. No
1:37:47
charge. Go ahead. You can you could all troll room.io Go
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ahead, use whatever you want. And I love the people in the
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troll room who are you know, bitching and moaning about us
1:37:57
bitching and moaning? I don't recognize any of these people as
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donors by the way. They are. Their contribution is memes on
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John C Dvorak: is also somebody before you go into the art.
1:39:18
Yeah. As you brought up Google, we have a PSA. There's a song I
1:39:23
guess it's a classic. Coming up at the end of the show about
1:39:27
Bing and Google and how the world can't live without one go.
1:39:32
Yeah, can't live without Google's name of the song. And
1:39:34
then Bing comes up in the conversation. And I was thinking
1:39:37
I was that song, I think and you know, what would happen if
1:39:41
Google actually just stopped and ceased existence? You couldn't
1:39:45
use Bing. Now because Microsoft would cancel it. They would
1:39:51
shutter it overnight. Why there would be nothing. This is what
1:39:55
they do. They had this project where they were scanning library
1:39:59
books You know, along with Google When Google finally said
1:40:02
we're sick of it, because we're getting sued left and right,
1:40:04
Microsoft continued for a while they looked left. They look
1:40:07
right. Google wasn't doing it. So they stopped. Yeah, it's a
1:40:11
terrible company. Anyway, I just thought I'd get that out of the
1:40:16
way, because I couldn't do it after the show. No, no, no,
1:40:18
that's in the show.
1:40:22
Adam Curry: We want to, we want to thank Nico Syme. It was I
1:40:27
have to say the contributions in art are off the chart at the
1:40:32
Arts off the chart, man. That's it in the past couple of
1:40:36
episodes have been dynamite. And it's very hard for us to choose
1:40:40
to choose a winner. Nico Syme got the nod. Thought he had a
1:40:45
brilliant piece of art which was and what I thought was brilliant
1:40:49
about it what it was basically it was the fasten seatbelt sign
1:40:51
except that said, no agenda, climate turbulence warning and
1:40:55
have the little buckle your seat by fasten your seat belt.
1:40:59
Graphic, it was exactly like an illuminated sign on the 737 from
1:41:05
about 1985 Somehow it was just there was perfect.
1:41:09
John C Dvorak: You the one that promoted this, right. Like the I
1:41:13
had liked the piece by Sir Paul, who did the very nice piece of
1:41:20
arch, which was just below it. I thought the art was superior
1:41:24
than Ecocide stuff was kind of simplistic, but at the same time
1:41:28
when you brought up that it looked like illuminated sign and
1:41:31
it did have motion it showed and it got the point across and the
1:41:35
gag was there.
1:41:36
Adam Curry: What was the one? What was the one you wanted?
1:41:39
John C Dvorak: The one the Sir Paul Couture's fly the turbulent
1:41:44
skies with the stewardess all as an art px the art well the
1:41:49
proper use it for the new Oh,
1:41:50
Adam Curry: I had a different issue with that is that curry
1:41:53
DeVore AK was very, very tiny.
1:41:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you didn't like that part of it. And then
1:41:58
when I started thinking about it, I think that the opportunity
1:42:02
was missed. To have the stewardess flying in the air are
1:42:07
somehow a little flex yeah tumbling or something active
1:42:10
something moving. Because the star all the stories that we put
1:42:14
played about the turbulent skies involve some stewardess flying
1:42:19
around like you know just in the bumping her head or just flying
1:42:22
through the air and I thought that would have been a nice
1:42:24
thing nobody picked up may I
1:42:26
Adam Curry: add since since this is the donation segment and only
1:42:29
people who listened get to hear the extra content and the magic
1:42:32
number. We received a very beautiful email from Brandon
1:42:38
future sir homebound separator of Baton Rouge airspace. An air
1:42:42
traffic controller isn't an air traffic guy DTC guy. And he said
1:42:46
Oh, yeah. Oh, he first of all, he confirmed I also have the
1:42:48
link if you'd like to see the fuel saving arrival route which
1:42:55
takes you right through the turbulence he said there's also
1:42:59
within the last decade, the FAA has tightened the the spacing
1:43:07
between aircraft because modern aircraft can handle wake
1:43:11
turbulence better now wake turbulence is it's really a
1:43:15
spiraling air of flow of air that comes from turbine engines.
1:43:20
So it used to be five miles separation now it's three and a
1:43:24
half miles. The result of that is a pretty much consistent
1:43:30
layer of wake turbulence because it's there's always a pace.
1:43:35
Yeah. So ever
1:43:36
John C Dvorak: was getting a bump. Yeah, like it or not,
1:43:39
you're getting a bumpy ride in what it's
1:43:41
Adam Curry: not is climate change. It's not climate change.
1:43:45
That's a lie. A lie a lie a lie. But I do like that some stupid
1:43:50
Zoomers in Germany, went on the runway and glued their hands to
1:43:57
the runway and they had to chop a piece of the runway out of the
1:44:00
asphalt to get them from the runway because they use epoxy
1:44:05
and some cement and there's these two two girls two dipshit
1:44:12
girls with their hands glued to this piece of asphalt that
1:44:16
they're not going to have to have surgically removed and
1:44:20
they're and they're they're crying
1:44:26
John C Dvorak: to dipshit girls yes neurodivergent
1:44:30
Adam Curry: girls so for some we looked at a lot of the pay pigs
1:44:35
but we really felt that you know unless you knew pay pig that it
1:44:39
could be easily misunderstood what what the pay pig was I kind
1:44:45
of in a weird way like comic strip bloggers but fart that
1:44:49
look like Yeah, you did
1:44:50
John C Dvorak: like that for some unknown reason, which now
1:44:52
just encourages him. Thanks for that comment.
1:44:55
Adam Curry: I love the i By
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John C Dvorak: the way, I did like Nico Simes paper bunny den
1:45:00
also then Kenny bends they did the competitive pay pigs using
1:45:04
the same clipart.
1:45:05
Adam Curry: And yes, they did that which was interesting. We
1:45:09
didn't we didn't think the pay pig in the PayPal logo was a
1:45:13
good idea. No for obvious reasons. I liked Baron of BNS
1:45:21
glide path although, you know, esoteric No, but only pilots
1:45:24
would understand what you were looking at a glide right into
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the tropisms that was funny for sure. What else did we I think
1:45:32
that was kind of it wasn't it? But everything is so it's, I
1:45:38
mean, not everything hits the mark, but everything is quality,
1:45:41
this quality art and we're very appreciative that we love our
1:45:43
artists and that we
1:45:45
John C Dvorak: there's at least five to six pieces we could have
1:45:47
easily picked without regret.
1:45:49
Adam Curry: And already for today's show we have 1214 pieces
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already uploaded. I mean this this this race is on man this is
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this is good stuff. Thank you very much. To our artists of
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course, thank you, Nico Syme. No agenda are generated are calm if
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John C Dvorak: there's 26 pieces on right and that's insane
1:46:25
Adam Curry: All right, let's thank our executive producer and
1:46:29
our what four or five Associate Executive producers we kick it
1:46:34
off with Dame T J of the side eye, and she sent in a note
1:46:39
which I have here that she said Dear Adam didn't even add you to
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the list was what's up with that?
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John C Dvorak: hates me.
1:46:49
Adam Curry: She She doesn't hate you? No, because he actually
1:46:52
refers to you and she is from where she from home on a second
1:46:56
do we have been our Haysville hates $302 True new story
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listener colong. When I was a new listener, I had a completely
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wrong theory for why your wife was called the keeper. I figured
1:47:09
since she had a job and you were a podcaster she made all the
1:47:12
money for the household. Although that is not the genesis
1:47:17
of her story of her name. Yes, she had a real job that made you
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a kept man and her your keeper. The True Story is probably as
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romantic as JCD gets.
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John C Dvorak: Oh,
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Adam Curry: boy she's cater to spices you if there's any travel
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no agenda marketplace so I can hire you. Oh there you go.
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What is this? Did I miss something? The young No
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that a marketplace that I was unaware of? Ever heard of it? I
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guess so. Anyway, looking so if you're a travel agent, you could
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be you could be hired. Asking for jingles. Eats or bugs. Do we
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have an eat there's no eats eats of bugs is there it's not just I
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love bugs. Eat the bugs. Let me see. There is
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John C Dvorak: a there is eats a jingle is about I found will eat
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the bugs. I found
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Adam Curry: it. I found it. I found it the bugs. And along
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with that. Look at that juice and beautiful yum. Okay. Hiring
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Jews? Beautiful. You've got Carmen for being a hater. That
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was a pretty good sequence. Yeah,
1:49:16
John C Dvorak: give
1:49:16
Adam Curry: her that one guy was a good sequence. We liked that
1:49:18
one.
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John C Dvorak: Christie Zeiss in ham. Chin Bay's New York is our
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Associate Executive Producer at $250. And she said rongke, which
1:49:28
is one of our podcasts couple shows ago. Bronk was the goat I
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listened to x thanks. I mean, she listened twice, not at 2x is
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different. She listened two times. Yeah, very good. Listen
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two times as six hours never ever time. Here's a great
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Adam Curry: example of someone who understands value. DS laughs
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who always Now very often sends us an end of show mix did not
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send one today. Instead, these laughs from Toronto, California,
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Canada, sent us some value $241 appreciate that. No jingles keep
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it short and sweet. As a black man as a black man, I got some
1:50:03
questions about Black Pete. Hopefully no pics of you dressed
1:50:08
in Trudeau face come out and I don't think so. Everyone should
1:50:11
become an executive producer one time at least thank you for the
1:50:14
material to get me to start rapping. Thank you very much DS
1:50:18
laughs appreciate that
1:50:19
John C Dvorak: a whole show on Black Pete some years back Yes,
1:50:23
Adam Curry: it was before it was on Vogue even was just kicking
1:50:27
off and now they have a slave museum as well. well on their
1:50:31
way to what the whole point what it all was all about. They
1:50:35
started with the Black Pete and now there's reparations on deck
1:50:39
for Suriname's. Okay. All right. Everybody has nothing to do with
1:50:43
Black Pete by the way, but there you go.
1:50:46
John C Dvorak: Emily Shay, I know that's the joke of it.
1:50:49
Yeah. Emily shade in Beaverton, Oregon. She says hi John and
1:50:55
Adam, Adam and John actually when she puts it finally check
1:50:59
my accounting and realize I was practically a dame a perfect
1:51:03
birthday present for myself accounting attache request to be
1:51:05
knighted Dame Emily and you're on the list and ask for a
1:51:09
cappuccinos and fruit fruit tarts at the round table I'm
1:51:14
also requested a biscuit for my birthday 31st Birthday. Thank
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you for that right now. They always give me a biscuit on my
1:51:22
birthday. Tomorrow July 14 And second is second meant second
1:51:28
meant second meant I don't think she wants Second Amendment
1:51:31
karma. Second Amendment Okay second amendment karma as I plan
1:51:35
to pursue a rotation from the US to the UK was in my accounting
1:51:38
firm that second amendment thanks you all Emily shade
1:51:45
throwing some shade from Portland Oregon,
1:51:47
Adam Curry: but what do you think it is? Because I have
1:51:48
second amendment karma well that well I'll just give her this
1:51:50
John C Dvorak: code Second Amendment got to do with the UK
1:51:52
and I don't know second. What second meant what a second
1:51:55
minute second two minute second. You want to look that up? Maybe
1:51:58
it's an actual word. Well, I'm
1:51:59
Adam Curry: gonna give her some gunfire karma.
1:52:03
Unknown: You've got karma.
1:52:06
Just go.
1:52:08
Adam Curry: I mean, maybe something can hurt right. can
1:52:11
hurt. Let me just add her request to the roundtable. Have
1:52:14
that cappuccino and fruit tarts? Yay. We got Todd from Northern
1:52:19
Virginia. Virginia. Nice Palindrome to one 2.12. Same for
1:52:25
this backward. Set in the morning, John Adam. I had to
1:52:28
thank the two of you and send some treasure back your way you
1:52:31
always say to never skip the donation segment and my
1:52:34
listening paid off. A small windfall came my way when I
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matched all the secret numbers to hit the jackpot and because
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my numbers were Palindrome I even hit the douchebag Davao
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Wow, this is what this is what the show does. Could you please
1:52:50
send me some rental property buying karma so I can get
1:52:53
another piece of the pie before BlackRock and Vanguard buy up
1:52:56
all the country's real estate and Sam prices into the
1:52:58
stratosphere. Thank you for your courage love is lit Todd from
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Northern Virginia Of course, and congratulations on douchebag
1:53:05
karma.
1:53:08
John C Dvorak: So going back to Emily shade, yeah. Second meant
1:53:14
second is what we're supposed to be doing. A second meant is an
1:53:19
arrangement where a company temporarily assigns an employee
1:53:23
to a new position. The new position may be within the
1:53:27
organization or with a separate business such as a client or
1:53:31
supplier. Who the hell ever use that word in their life?
1:53:35
Unknown: I don't know.
1:53:39
John C Dvorak: Hence, it's also considered a temporary
1:53:41
assignment. Interesting. Okay. Wouldn't we learn something
1:53:46
today?
1:53:48
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you.
1:53:49
John C Dvorak: And we'll learn something else from Sure.
1:53:53
malinovski in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Hey y'all. This
1:53:58
donation brings me to Baron status accounting is attached
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I'd like to my title upgraded to serve malinovski Baron of South
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Louisiana. Today's show was a banger. Let's see to John tried
1:54:15
to process the information about pay pigs in real time had
1:54:19
cracked meat had been had me cackling I figured it was high
1:54:26
time to be a paid pig once again for my favorite podcast is for a
1:54:29
jingle can I get Atlas Shrugged followed by any Biden gaff ISO,
1:54:35
thanks for all you do and keep it up.
1:54:38
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got you. By iron Rand is a dead dog on my
1:54:45
lawn. It was not really a gaffe. But that's that's what I thought
1:54:50
was funny to listen to.
1:54:51
John C Dvorak: was the winner is a dead dog on his lawn. Wow,
1:54:54
that
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Adam Curry: was that was one of his that was one of his. His
1:54:57
things while back is now
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John C Dvorak: Get the last one here. Thank you. Because it's
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Adam Curry: the limit. Let me just thank thank the Executive
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Associate Executive Producers very much for supporting seven
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of them the all seven but the seven get titles. These titles
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are official anywhere, credits and titles are recognized, which
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would be on the picket line, or at IMDb or even on your resume.
1:56:01
Or if you're looking to get one of those non union gigs. You can
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say I've got a non union credit right here, and they're good
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forever and you can tout them anywhere and if anyone questions
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them, we'll be happy to vouch for you. Thank you very much for
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producing episode 1573 of the best podcast in the universe.
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John is going to take us through the 50s Won't take long either.
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John C Dvorak: And he came in Columbus, Ohio 169 69 David
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Fukase odour but in Gladstone, Missouri is the Duke of many men
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Baron or the somewhere in
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Adam Curry: America for America, America's heartland and the
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Arabian Peninsula.
1:56:36
John C Dvorak: 152 12 Reading Harrington sparks Nevada went
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5212 Priscilla O'Leary and Ramona California 147 Or neither
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the East Side 133 33 in Maplewood, Minnesota, here's a
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switcheroo. This is the Cape Coral meetup in Cape Coral,
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Florida. My wife attended the first no agenda meeting in Cape
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Coral. Cannabis got together as a great time. Please de douche
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Linda Baxter de deuced
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Adam Curry: sir Dan, the man Baron of Southwest Florida
1:57:14
protector of Cape Coral on the islands of Sanibel and Captiva
1:57:17
John C Dvorak: Silvana Gentile in Orland hills, Illinois 100.
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Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico 100 QQ Q. QQ. Just QQ in
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Key West Florida 100 Karen Strickland Littleton, Colorado
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100.
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Adam Curry: Mentioned QQ unsubscribe from all services
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Amazon, Netflix, Google, Apple, etc. Made a monthly subscription
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to no agenda. money better spent today. Donating is because our
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company is slowly getting back on his feet the effects of Biden
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in the mafia, but he canceled all of his douchebags
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subscriptions to support the best podcast in the universe,
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just saying.
1:58:00
John C Dvorak: There's a lot of douchebag subscriptions there he
1:58:02
listed. Chris deacon in burnt ranch California 9999. Aaron why
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Bergen robbers Wisconsin 808 Kevin McLaughlin dairy is in
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Concord, North Carolina 808. Boobs. Mike McCoy in Schaumburg,
1:58:21
Illinois. 808. Short, Kevin's dedication to breasts is an
1:58:26
inspiration to us all. And he writes indeed. Sir Jheri curl in
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Raleigh, North Carolina 7140.
1:58:35
Adam Curry: This was their emotion. This was the promotion.
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Oh, sorry.
1:58:39
John C Dvorak: It is yeah, this
1:58:40
Adam Curry: was the Bastille Day promotion.
1:58:42
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Great idea. Yes. But so he was
1:58:48
bored. He
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Adam Curry: rocked, man.
1:58:52
John C Dvorak: I got one guy. Jheri curl, bearing a BA Well,
1:58:57
you know that here's a joke of it. I sent a newsletter on the
1:59:01
15th. Bastille Day was the day before and I had the dates mixed
1:59:05
up. You thought and I said it was today. And it wasn't the
1:59:10
maybe that's why it failed. No, no. Maybe Baron BNA is up next
1:59:16
in Nashville, Tennessee. 5993. James Edmondson in South
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Plainfield, New Jersey, at 510 Richard Futter in London UK 5510
1:59:26
Pete Lockwood in San Francisco California with a birthday 55
1:59:30
And for his in is a biscuit first or do they always give me
1:59:35
a biscuit on my birthday John? Know why these hours
1:59:40
Adam Curry: what are you doing? Don't don't go to work. I had to
1:59:42
move it. Come back to the mic. Come back to the mic and I'm
1:59:45
John C Dvorak: trying to get this thing straightened out. I
1:59:47
don't want to put it by the thing again.
1:59:49
Adam Curry: What what do you have to do what
1:59:51
John C Dvorak: where was bugging? Yes.
1:59:53
Adam Curry: Very barren of bna 24. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: in Nashville, Tennessee. He came in with 15 I
2:00:00
93 James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 55, and
2:00:03
no I did all these 55 ends. I did Peter Lockwood and San
2:00:07
Francisco for his birthday.
2:00:10
Adam Curry: You're right. I'm confused.
2:00:13
John C Dvorak: Three funderburk in Spokane, Washington Darrow
2:00:16
and for 95 Darryl Keck, Dubuque, Iowa 5110.
2:00:22
Adam Curry: Are you are you are you not talking into the mic?
2:00:25
You're definitely something happened.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yes, this mic. Ah, the mic has moved on
2:00:28
me. Hold on. I'm gonna move it back.
2:00:30
Adam Curry: You didn't see that?
2:00:32
John C Dvorak: No, I'm not looking at it. There we go.
2:00:34
Okay. Thanks for catching that. Yeah. This little nub needs to
2:00:40
be tightened tighten your knob. Ah, I can't you know, it's like
2:00:44
you know, they put these little things on there and there's not
2:00:48
enough leverage to do any real tightening through notices with
2:00:52
his with his gear.
2:00:54
Adam Curry: I don't have that
2:00:54
John C Dvorak: economic hitman. Okay, sorry, economic I'm sorry,
2:00:57
I'm complaining. Sure. Economic Hitman in Tomball, Texas 5001.
2:01:01
And here we go into $50 donors. And it looks like I was wrong in
2:01:05
my analysis. By the way, I want to apologize. Kevin deals in
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Huntersville North Carolina. Christian Freeman in San Marcos,
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Texas. Big Papa productions in Minneapolis Chris Lewinsky in
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Sherwood Park. Easy, easy landscapes in North Stonington
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Connecticut. Michael Thompson a new Brownsville, Texas. Dilip
2:01:27
blue in Louisville, Kentucky, Kelly MacDill and Mission Hills
2:01:30
Kansas. Michael perote parrot parrot in Salem, Oregon. Todd
2:01:36
Hendrickson in Woodstock, Illinois, switcheroo for as long
2:01:40
as youngest brother Chad Hendrickson, and he does it
2:01:43
again. 50 bucks Woodstock, Illinois for his brother Kyle
2:01:48
Hendricks and a Carpentersville How cool. Oh, wait a minute. He
2:01:52
does it one more time. Is this a massage? No Anderson brothers
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should ever be known as a douchebag. So we need dee doo
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dee doo
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Unknown: dee doo stickers of course. Of course we did.
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Douche.
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John C Dvorak: Do another one. All right. You've been de deuced
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Sara Gordon in Tucson, Arizona. 50. Rick lob LaMancha. In hope
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Rhode Island. And so Mitra Saravana. in Fredericksburg,
2:02:24
Fredericksburg, Fredericksburg, Virginia, or Virginia. There's
2:02:29
never been a donation from Fredericksburg.
2:02:32
Adam Curry: You know? That's a good point. And I know there's
2:02:34
people listening. And quite frankly, I'm disappointed in
2:02:38
y'all. Y'all notice I've done y'all to speak to the locals
2:02:41
here. Y'all know.
2:02:43
John C Dvorak: Last on the list is windy Brahmin, in Saginaw.
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Yeah, Michigan.
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Adam Curry: Everybody's listening here. But the whole
2:02:51
town listens to no agenda.
2:02:53
John C Dvorak: They don't like us. Listen possible.
2:02:56
Adam Curry: It's just hatless. And it's possible. It's very
2:02:59
possible. You never know. The douchebags. Well, that
2:03:02
John C Dvorak: was I'm sorry, there's 46 People 45 People, not
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19. I was wrong. But I was looking at is I didn't know what
2:03:09
I was looking I was a different spreadsheet. I'm not sure.
2:03:12
Adam Curry: Thank you to all of our donors, of course, those who
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did step up and who do deliver the value back to us, which
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makes us happy. It makes us feel good about what we're doing. And
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of course, people come in under $50. We will not mention
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anything. Therefore anonymity, just in case you know, you can
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be sure that we'll never mentioned under 50. But there's
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a lot of subscriptions. You can do your own numbers, your own
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subscription you can go to well, we have a website where you can
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find out exactly what kind of subscriptions are already pre
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new donation site is that I mean seriously, I'm not composed I
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can tell. Okay, just want to make sure. Thank you all very
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much. Thank you again to our executive and Associate
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Executive producers we really appreciate appreciate you
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producing 1573 Our formula is this. People in the mouth
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we have a couple of birthdays to celebrate and Casey celebrate on
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the 29th Happy belated birthday, Dame Emily turned 31 on the 14th
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I don't want to be whenever I have that speed just rockin and
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John C Dvorak: you write it over yourself so you don't allow me
2:05:09
that you know,
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Adam Curry: because this is what we call steam baby we're
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steaming full steam. This is where we congratulate sir
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congratulations with your barony sir malinovski Yes, John, you
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had a question?
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John C Dvorak: No, I have an apology. Oh, okay. I have an
2:05:37
apology to make to Dame TJ of the side I have after writing
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her for being a hater. Oh, okay. It turns out she wrote a card
2:05:47
which was scanned I'm sure. Specifically to me
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Adam Curry: Oh, and she's a lover not a hater.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, she says love you John. Oh wow. Wow,
2:05:59
you're all that and more you need to repent fee podcast day.
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She had to say happy birthday card she's repurposed its
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podcast day planner No
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Adam Curry: How can it be podcast day one it's artificial
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intelligence day
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John C Dvorak: well same thing so
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Adam Curry: same difference she's
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John C Dvorak: she says she has and she's she's want to put a
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little patch in there. Says awesome dad great guy you got to
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pack right
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Adam Curry: Oh man you what you repent.
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John C Dvorak: I do she writes I especially like it when you use
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rare words like close close that I've read but never heard. How a
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minor
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Adam Curry: point but no but people love you for your
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vocabulary
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John C Dvorak: for all you do. She writes so I was a bomb CAD I
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was literally a CAD to her
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Adam Curry: I would say douche but okay, CAD CAD
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John C Dvorak: we're like close better like close it's just more
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douche we use too much on the show
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Unknown: No one.
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Adam Curry: A lot of producers are providing value to the
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community that is the no agenda show people who go to meetups
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they pretty much always donate I've noticed that so that's very
2:08:34
much appreciated. We got a report from the Dayton Ohio
2:08:37
meetup from Sir Egghead Night of the Long shadows of trash
2:08:40
mountain. He says it was a spur of the moment many meet up this
2:08:44
past Friday night at Dublin pub in the heat on the patio in
2:08:47
Dayton, Ohio and attendance me sir Egghead sir Nick Lucas
2:08:50
Deaton from Dayton, mousy bear and Abel Kirby's are able Kirby
2:08:54
from rare encounter and Carolyn from hog story who I didn't
2:08:57
realize were local ish, as well. I'll say I said it before I'll
2:09:00
say it again. Go to a meet up or start one yourself. It's like a
2:09:03
partay good people that I was in Ohio, Dayton, Ohio. Good people.
2:09:10
interesting conversation. No buts hurt even when asking if
2:09:14
black people get the hiccups? Is this all right, thank you very
2:09:21
much for that report. We have more reports. Here's one from
2:09:25
Fort Worth.
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Unknown: In the morning, this is serotonin and here is the meetup
2:09:29
report for the fourth word meet up we're going to pass the
2:09:32
foreigner on and thank you want to thank everybody for showing
2:09:36
up. Hey, John
2:09:37
and Adam sir turbo here. Fort Worth meet up in the morning.
2:09:43
This Sir Tim from the Terrance wall plans in the morning. Make
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sure to go to a meet up it's a great time.
2:09:49
Sir le fonts here from North Idaho Post Falls. I'm here to
2:09:56
meet up and Fort Worth. Awesome beep I'm glad I came up
2:10:04
Adam Curry: you see a lot you can hear it there's always days
2:10:06
and nights at these things as these are people who really
2:10:08
support the show and they know connection is protection while
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you always have to attend a meet up regularly let's go to Leo
2:10:14
Bravo flight of the no agenda.
2:10:17
Unknown: Hi everyone, it's Leo pravo find out the no agenda
2:10:20
meetup number 42. I'm passing the phone around. Some folks
2:10:23
have words to say
2:10:24
definitely don't miss out on the next no agenda meetup great
2:10:27
conversation, great people great weather you got to find more
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community and will make you feel good. So come back. Hey guys,
2:10:32
this
2:10:33
is Slick Rick and great time at the meetup at the proud bird
2:10:37
with Lele the spook
2:10:39
in the morning. This is Reina from Glendora sir milkman in the
2:10:43
morning. This is Raquel from Arcadia in the morning and be
2:10:47
digital from Altadena
2:10:50
Adam Curry: beautiful one more to go.
2:10:53
Unknown: We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we
2:10:56
laugh a lot now everyone can share a secret
2:10:59
in the morning get donations with center here and in the oh
2:11:04
Adam Curry: I'm sorry this is the Switzerland meetup the
2:11:06
Credit No Credit Suisse meetup, which was quite large I think
2:11:11
there was 10 people all handsome and pretty
2:11:15
Unknown: in the morning getting donations sent out here and in
2:11:19
the evening to all the Korean to keep for listeners.
2:11:23
This is causing me FM Zurich in the morning and trust me much.
2:11:28
Sir Richard Barbarossa in the morning show. This is Marty the
2:11:36
matrix has you in the morning Hello this is for Sir Luca and
2:11:42
we're having a great time.
2:11:44
Hi everybody. I am I'm Oscar reporting from Zurich. We had a
2:11:48
nice time today.
2:11:50
You should do it you
2:11:51
ATM from Wally. So from getting like keep nomination form to
2:11:55
cheese. We had a lovely meeting in Zurich. And yeah if anyone
2:12:01
has any questions about solar panels hit me up on this
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you Scott
2:12:13
Adam Curry: Okay. You don't need to produce it like that. But
2:12:19
thank you. It just blows me away that we got a group of people
2:12:23
who meet in Zurich to just hanging out connect with each
2:12:26
other, find their community and and just be part of no agenda
2:12:31
nation and get my nation fondue cheese. Thank you so much. I
2:12:33
love that. We have a promo for a Texas Baron Scott checking in
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for us.
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Unknown: This is gern Scott here to let you know it's that time
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of the year again. The third annual Central Texas float meet
2:12:43
is set for Sunday, August 13. This year we'll be on the
2:12:46
springfed San Marcos River. We'll meet at the rail yard Bar
2:12:50
and Grill for each and libations after a three hour float. Good
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and no agenda meetup.com for details and your RSVP to both
2:12:57
the morning float in the afternoon meetup. Connection has
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protection on the river
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Adam Curry: on the river indeed. Thank you very much Baron Scott.
2:13:06
Coming up. Today we have the Tucson Wild West Side meet up
2:13:10
that's underway. I think Arizona whiskey roads Tucson. We have
2:13:14
hunters deviated septum Memorial all so sad his septum has
2:13:18
deviated Miller's Ale House in Mount Laurel Township, South New
2:13:23
Jersey. I think it's underway on Thursday or next show day North
2:13:27
Idaho sanity brigade five o'clock it's in. It's so Kirk
2:13:30
Abbey and Post Falls Idaho. The South Mississippi testing the
2:13:34
turnout meet up that's the second one Kagan barrel at 630
2:13:37
in Haiti, Hattiesburg MS is Missouri. No Mississippi. MS is
2:13:44
Mississippi. Yes, you're peeing. I got you. And
2:13:49
John C Dvorak: I'm not I'm sitting here and yes it is. It's
2:13:54
okay I wouldn't be doing I'm just supposed to be but you're
2:13:58
gonna pull that stunt.
2:13:59
Adam Curry: And then finally Charlotte's thirsty Third
2:14:02
Thursday monthly meet up seven o'clock edge Tavern in
2:14:04
Charlotte, North Carolina man we have a lot of meetups going all
2:14:08
the way through. August we have Nyborg, Denmark on July 21,
2:14:15
Maastricht the Netherlands on the 21st just looking for the
2:14:19
international ones. We have done nang Vietnam on July 29, Habbo
2:14:24
Vietnam, we didn't we and of course, Vilnius, Lithuania on
2:14:31
August 26, which is just in time for the next NATO meeting.
2:14:35
Apparently. We appreciate all of these organizers. It's so good.
2:14:40
It's so important. This is something that everybody can
2:14:43
benefit from. It really will complete your no agenda
2:14:47
experience if you go to a meetup, no agenda meetups.com
2:14:51
Thank you, sir Daniel, for keeping that website up and
2:14:53
running. Thank you Mimi, for coordinating it all. If you
2:14:56
can't find one near you start one no agenda meetups.com It's
2:14:59
easy. You
2:15:01
Unknown: go hang out with Bom Bom you won't be triggered you
2:15:12
to be weird everybody feels
2:15:14
the same do bom bom like
2:15:22
John C Dvorak: before we get to the ISO since you mentioned
2:15:24
Vietnam I want to play a cat I clipped it came off of was sent
2:15:31
in by a producer came off of C span about cameras visit visited
2:15:38
Vietnam in a kind of a gaffe
2:15:43
Adam Curry: camo Vietnam okay got
2:15:44
Unknown: it flowers at the site where John McCain was shot down
2:15:48
in Vietnam. What the know nothing millennials who set
2:15:51
camallo schedule didn't know that had the site that she's
2:15:55
laying those flowers out it's a celebration of those who shot
2:15:59
McCain's plane out of the sky and in passing him, delivering
2:16:03
him to the VC for his long stay and torture at the Hanoi Hilton.
2:16:09
The stunning ignorance of Kamala Harris and her team was noted by
2:16:13
y'all when you a journalist based in Beijing, she tweeted
2:16:17
this Harris No, this monument honors the people who shot down
2:16:22
John McCain's plane, Vietnamese people who view him as a war
2:16:25
criminal. So in essence, Harris was paying tribute to those who
2:16:31
were shot down John McCain. It'd be like Harris laying a wreath
2:16:35
at Pearl Harbor honoring the brain Japanese pilots who sunk
2:16:39
the USS Arizona.
2:16:41
Adam Curry: Wow, wow, wow, hold on a second. I had no idea that
2:16:45
that's a better gaffe than the stupid population thing. This is
2:16:49
a clip of the day job. Now we might as well play the one that
2:16:54
everyone's laughing about, which is the population gaff, and I've
2:16:57
got it right here about the
2:16:58
Unknown: impact on something like public health when we
2:17:01
invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and reduce
2:17:04
population. More of our children can breathe clean air and drink
2:17:09
clean water.
2:17:12
Adam Curry: Clean Water MK Ultra victim.
2:17:15
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I know what day she was meant to
2:17:18
see. pollution, pollution but of course population came at us
2:17:23
command
2:17:24
Adam Curry: had to come up because that ultimately is
2:17:26
exactly what it's about. Reduce the population. The carbon is
2:17:30
you people. The carbon is you. ISOs
2:17:35
John C Dvorak: I have three What do you got?
2:17:37
Adam Curry: I got four. Oh, hmm. Well, you go first.
2:17:41
John C Dvorak: There might be okay. This time. Okay. Okay.
2:17:43
Start with Think.
2:17:44
Adam Curry: Think. Think about it. Not bad.
2:17:49
John C Dvorak: Okay, then we'll go to water. Water.
2:17:51
Unknown: I have a drink of water.
2:17:56
Adam Curry: Let me hear that again. A drink of water. Drink
2:17:59
of water. It's pretty good. Pretty good. I like it's funny.
2:18:03
John C Dvorak: We got Yes, yes. Yes.
2:18:06
Adam Curry: Wow. Cute. Where's that from?
2:18:09
John C Dvorak: I remember some some NPR
2:18:13
Adam Curry: I have for let's see if anything's any good.
2:18:15
Unknown: But just because they're crazy. doesn't mean
2:18:17
they're stupid.
2:18:20
John C Dvorak: That's insulting.
2:18:21
Unknown: I think we want more balls. Dude, we'll get my boys.
2:18:28
Adam Curry: I like this is the last one I have. This may be the
2:18:31
one.
2:18:31
Unknown: I think they're fantastic. Come on. Yeah, that's
2:18:35
it. Jen
2:18:35
Adam Curry: Psaki baby. Jen Psaki. She's the best. Our Jen
2:18:40
is? Well, well, well, let's see. Oh, I had something. Just a
2:18:46
brief one. I'm sure you have some other stuff. But I just
2:18:49
wanted to play this clip, followed by a Redux clip. This
2:18:53
is ABC
2:18:54
Unknown: one day after getting some good news about the
2:18:56
inflation rate some troubling news about the federal deficit
2:18:59
and nearly tripled in the last nine months. Government spending
2:19:03
on Medicare and Social Security went up while tax revenue went
2:19:06
down. The bank bailouts back in March also contributed
2:19:09
Adam Curry: the bank bailouts back in March contributed to the
2:19:13
deficit the deficit? If I'm just so I understand. Is the deficit
2:19:18
is that something that gets put on the taxpayers ultimately?
2:19:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think blood Yeah, sure. Why not? I
2:19:28
mean, who also get to stick it to exactly get it from someone.
2:19:31
Corporations are all taxpayers. If you
2:19:33
Adam Curry: spend money you don't have so you have to borrow
2:19:35
it. That is a deficit. And that again, while tax
2:19:40
Unknown: revenue went down, the bank bailouts back in March also
2:19:44
contributed.
2:19:45
Adam Curry: So the bank bailouts contributed to the deficit,
2:19:49
which is a burden for the taxpayers.
2:19:51
John C Dvorak: But also they also mentioned that the tax went
2:19:55
down. In other words we had
2:19:56
Adam Curry: let me get to a point let me get to my point.
2:20:00
But the bank bailouts went into the deficit which gets put on to
2:20:05
the taxpayers. Let's go back in time this morning,
2:20:09
Unknown: Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is expected to face
2:20:12
some grilling over the banking system on Capitol Hill.
2:20:14
According to prepared remarks, Yellen will reassure that
2:20:17
taxpayer money is not being used or put at risk in the Fallout
2:20:21
and that Americans can feel confident their deposits will be
2:20:23
there when they need them.
2:20:25
Adam Curry: We were assured that this would not be put on our
2:20:27
shoulders.
2:20:29
John C Dvorak: But no, she was specifically referring to the
2:20:31
specific banks that they did. FDIC picked up they already had
2:20:34
they already had to take your money. Are
2:20:36
Adam Curry: you defending Janet Yellen? Yeah, that's an outrage
2:20:42
John C Dvorak: for what she said there. Yeah. Because all she
2:20:44
said was $1 We got this cover. We're not going to stick to
2:20:47
sticking to the taxpayers because they've already been
2:20:49
stuck.
2:20:49
Adam Curry: So apparently Janet Yellen, when she was in, in
2:20:53
China, concert consumed four servings of John HSU queen, a
2:21:00
type of wild mushroom, which some say are hallucinogenic. Are
2:21:08
you familiar with this?
2:21:09
John C Dvorak: I'm not familiar with the story that she had four
2:21:13
servings four servings that probably tastes the mushroom.
2:21:16
Adam Curry: The media coverage was quite enthusiastic and even
2:21:19
praised Yellin chopsticks skills. However, these
2:21:23
particular mushrooms are notorious in their native
2:21:25
province of Yunnan for their unpredictable psychedelic
2:21:29
effects. The Jin Jin Hua state news agency published a report
2:21:37
about the mushrooms potent powers only after Yellin had
2:21:41
left that were one connoisseur shared. Hmm. You thought you
2:21:44
were walking straight but you just fell sideways. Dr. Peter
2:21:48
Mortimer professor of the coming Kunming Institute of botany
2:21:52
informed CNN, he knew someone who mistakenly consumed these
2:21:55
mushrooms and experienced hallucinations for three days.
2:22:00
John C Dvorak: About that she notice
2:22:03
Adam Curry: no one noticed from her behavior either oddly stupid
2:22:09
Jarrett Jarom. Wow. How about that, huh?
2:22:12
John C Dvorak: Yes, that means this should have been planned.
2:22:14
And on CBS.
2:22:16
Adam Curry: I got a lot of people warning me about my
2:22:18
kratom experiment.
2:22:20
John C Dvorak: Like a lot. And I want to hear about it.
2:22:23
Adam Curry: Well, I got emails saying y'all you shouldn't do
2:22:25
that. I know guys who are strung out. It's highly addictive that
2:22:29
and they got boom, said his mic, and they got gastrointestinal
2:22:33
issues. And you know, so Stephen are our kratom. Producer. He
2:22:38
says, Yeah, okay, sure. People use the toss and wash micro
2:22:43
powder flour. Yeah, if you're using that, that you buy at some
2:22:47
hedge shop. Yeah, but he brews it from red and green kratom
2:22:51
leaves. He says a very different, we're not talking
2:22:54
about the same stuff. And most of the stories about by the way,
2:22:58
I haven't consumed any since I mean, I will have a bottle He
2:23:01
sends us six so it's not like I'm gonna get strung out on
2:23:05
kratom that'd be a good one. But he says most people use kratom
2:23:10
to try and get off of real opioids. And so you know, when
2:23:13
do you get the FDA with a kratom death list? And they don't
2:23:17
actually test to see if anyone has any other addictive
2:23:21
addictions. I'm not trying to say like, I'm not trying to
2:23:25
defend my kratom intake because I just it does give you a buzz
2:23:31
it's a nice little buzz for sure. I doubt that it'll
2:23:35
John C Dvorak: but does it give you energy? I thought that was
2:23:37
the point. Oh, no, it
2:23:38
Adam Curry: does not give me energy. No, it just makes me
2:23:40
feel kind of groovy for a bit while watching friends you know
2:23:46
it's nice it's really I'm feeling groovy that Elijah
2:23:52
feeling groovy All right, why don't you go ahead No go ahead
2:23:59
go ahead go
2:24:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we could
2:24:03
Adam Curry: we need to do coke gate
2:24:05
John C Dvorak: we don't have any I have no coke anything I have
2:24:08
nothing but Colgate Okay, well, let me play this little funny
2:24:11
clip first. Your funny clue. So another tick tock clip is this
2:24:17
is UCLA students two times oh wait, wait this man on the
2:24:21
street UCLA students being asked questions two times
2:24:24
Unknown: two times one two, which ocean is on the east side
2:24:31
of the United States? The East one you from you're from New
2:24:39
Pacific. You guys know this?
2:24:41
I know this. I don't know this Pacific. No, I can't do the
2:24:48
oceans. I don't do the Pacific.
2:24:51
What is the capital of the United States? So I knew I was
2:24:55
gonna do we I didn't want to think because I don't want to
2:24:59
sound down It just there's no capital via literally is there
2:25:03
no capital? Correct
2:25:07
you guys are UCLA go to UCLA
2:25:13
Adam Curry: Wow divorce California just saying yeah well
2:25:17
just divorce they sound neurodivergent at best. Colgate
2:25:26
everybody Coke a does some weird things in these reports that I
2:25:29
do want to want to highlight some some commonalities. Let's
2:25:34
start with NBC.
2:25:36
Unknown: Tonight the Secret Service coming up empty after
2:25:39
days of investigation and sophisticated forensic testing.
2:25:43
Officials cannot identify who left a small baggie of cocaine.
2:25:48
Okay,
2:25:49
Adam Curry: small baggie. What are these people regular Coke
2:25:54
users that they use terms like small baggie just a bag of
2:26:00
cocaine a small bag but why small baggie? Is that what you
2:26:04
used to
2:26:05
John C Dvorak: call it which is an old term from the 60s 70s 80s
2:26:10
for a baggie of marijuana says there's fat you know there's hot
2:26:14
smokers relating to pot smoking weird ag weird never been
2:26:20
cocaine in a
2:26:21
Adam Curry: bag a baggie. It's like
2:26:23
John C Dvorak: as values it's
2:26:25
Adam Curry: it's sold in ounces. It's an ounce of cocaine a half
2:26:28
ounce a quarter ounce a teeny weeny bit of rounds, but they
2:26:32
all
2:26:32
John C Dvorak: they're all us I thought it was in grams.
2:26:35
Adam Curry: While I'm talking Europe, I don't know. I mean, we
2:26:39
do everything big in Texas.
2:26:43
John C Dvorak: Oh, good point. Good comeback.
2:26:44
Unknown: Officials cannot identify who left a small baggie
2:26:48
of cocaine, kilos kilos keys baby keys in a storage cubby
2:26:54
used for electronic devices near this West Wing entrance. House
2:26:58
Speaker Kevin McCarthy raising doubts but if
2:27:01
they can't tell us who brought it, what else is happening in
2:27:05
the White House they can't tell us about what else is coming
2:27:07
into the White House they can tell me about that even concerns
2:27:10
me more now.
2:27:11
Lab tests conducted at the FBI crime lab did not develop latent
2:27:16
fingerprints and insufficient DNA was present for
2:27:19
investigative comparisons. Officials said they use video
2:27:23
and entrance logs to compile a list of more than 500
2:27:27
individuals who had access to the entrance in the days before
2:27:31
it was found July 2. But without physical or video evidence,
2:27:36
officials could not connect the drug to any suspect
2:27:39
it's complete failure. I mean, this thing is is ridiculous.
2:27:43
The White House said it is reviewing the findings.
2:27:46
Democrats acknowledged despite law enforcement efforts. The
2:27:50
mystery remains a
2:27:52
Adam Curry: mystery. Mystery. Let's listen to CBS if they have
2:27:56
any more clues to this mystery
2:27:58
Unknown: got any other big story today. They said it has closed
2:28:02
its investigation into that mysterious bag of cocaine that
2:28:05
was found in a White House work area earlier this month.
2:28:10
Adam Curry: We have what's your name is Nora. No, this is no
2:28:13
This is Nicole. That's Nora knows Nicole. is Nicole. This
2:28:17
Nicole's younger
2:28:18
John C Dvorak: person that's just reading that right there.
2:28:21
Adam Curry: I think so. Play it again. Now we'll continue.
2:28:24
Unknown: So why wasn't a suspect ever identified? We hit CBS News
2:28:29
Ganga at the White House in
2:28:30
Adam Curry: this Nicole scan goes at the White House. Come on
2:28:33
in Nicole
2:28:33
Unknown: after the Secret Service discovered cocaine in
2:28:36
the West Wing of the White House press secretary Kareem Jean
2:28:39
Pierre said President Biden expected a thorough
2:28:43
investigation.
2:28:44
The President it's very important to get to the bottom
2:28:47
of this that's but after
2:28:48
just 10 days the Secret Service closed its investigation unable
2:28:53
to identify whose cocaine it was and how it got inside the White
2:28:57
House. The small baggie containing
2:28:59
Adam Curry: bag a small baggie Why are they all using the term
2:29:02
baggie
2:29:03
Unknown: roughly point two grams of the drug was found July 2
2:29:07
Just inside the guest entryway to the West Wing. In a cubby
2:29:11
used by visitors to store cellphones steps away from the
2:29:14
situation room. FBI analysts examining the bag look for
2:29:18
traces of DNA and fingerprints but found no definitive results.
2:29:22
The Secret Service which briefed the House Oversight Committee
2:29:25
this morning scoured video inside and outside the building
2:29:29
and said no surveillance footage provided investigative leads.
2:29:34
I don't know who it is and they it's complete failure.
2:29:37
Some Republicans left the briefing demanding answers
2:29:41
How can in the White House 24/7 security. They find cocaine but
2:29:48
now they just closed the investigation.
2:29:50
In its statement. The Secret Service cited the difficulty in
2:29:53
singling out a person among the hundreds of individuals who pass
2:29:57
through the area where the cocaine was discovered. The
2:30:00
Secret Service has a canine unit that screens for explosive
2:30:04
devices and biohazards but not illegal drugs. And for some
2:30:08
lawmakers this incident now raises questions about security
2:30:12
protocols at the White House.
2:30:14
Adam Curry: This is very disturbing. We cannot find who
2:30:18
of these 500 people who pass through that entrance drop their
2:30:21
baggie that baggie of cocaine. Let's go to PBS.
2:30:24
Unknown: The Secret Service has finished investigating how a
2:30:27
baggie of cocaine
2:30:29
Adam Curry: even PBS is using baggy what is up with baggy?
2:30:33
Come on. I need answers. Why is this called a baggie
2:30:37
Unknown: gating how a baggie of
2:30:39
John C Dvorak: coke is some buddy whoever sent out the press
2:30:41
release used it no that must be hurting the press release.
2:30:45
Unknown: A baggie of cocaine got into the White House with No
2:30:49
leads and no suspects. The powder drug turned up in a lobby
2:30:53
area used by staff and tour groups are like a secret service
2:30:56
reports as tests found no fingerprints and no DNA and
2:31:00
video of the lobby entrance was no help.
2:31:03
Adam Curry: So there were no fingerprints and no DNA on the
2:31:06
baggy. Bo crap. Bo Come on. Your wiped your baggie. Let's listen
2:31:16
to see if if Chuck Todd should chip Chuck Chuck Todd Todd cast
2:31:21
is on the same type of baggy Meet the
2:31:24
Unknown: Press Welcome back to the investigation into that nine
2:31:27
bag of cocaine
2:31:28
Adam Curry: dime bag
2:31:30
John C Dvorak: doc did he say
2:31:30
Adam Curry: that? He said Dimebag there's no such Dimebag
2:31:34
as weed even I know that's a weed you saying? Yeah. You know,
2:31:38
he's saying Dimebag This is ridiculous.
2:31:42
John C Dvorak: Well be that wait a minute, maybe there this is
2:31:44
code number a different idea.
2:31:47
Adam Curry: Okay, well what's the what's the why is he using
2:31:49
different code is code for
2:31:51
John C Dvorak: marijuana because they found Camela stash and
2:31:58
they're just making it clear to her that we know we're careful
2:32:01
it's
2:32:01
Adam Curry: you Kamala we know what you
2:32:03
Unknown: welcome back to the investigation into that non bag
2:32:05
of cocaine that was found at the White House earlier this month
2:32:07
is over, but there's no conclusion on who is responsible
2:32:10
the Secret Service announced this morning the no forensic
2:32:12
grams that
2:32:13
John C Dvorak: wouldn't be a dime bag anyway a
2:32:15
Adam Curry: dime is a price it's $10 so it'd be two bucks or
2:32:19
John C Dvorak: or 100 depending on what street are got.
2:32:22
Adam Curry: I wouldn't know because I can only afford nickel
2:32:24
bags,
2:32:25
Unknown: but there's no conclusion on who is responsible
2:32:26
the Secret Service announced this morning or video evidence
2:32:29
we're able to clearly identify anyone who tends to be
2:32:31
responsible for bringing this done sighs baggie of the drug
2:32:35
and
2:32:35
Adam Curry: dime size baggie now he throws the size of a dime
2:32:40
John C Dvorak: a dime sized bag that's there you got you got
2:32:44
your your your your you nailed one there.
2:32:47
Adam Curry: What is this dime size baggie?
2:32:49
John C Dvorak: That's this little BPD Beedie Beedie Beedie
2:32:52
thing
2:32:53
Adam Curry: it's so what's the size of a dime?
2:32:56
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what he said he the way he described
2:32:58
it. This guy's this guy's got one foot out the door. He's not
2:33:01
even being careful.
2:33:02
Adam Curry: I've never seen cocaine in his life apparently.
2:33:06
For weed. No wonder he's getting fired
2:33:08
Unknown: clearly identify anyone potentially responsible for
2:33:11
bringing this Don sighs baggie of the drug into the White House
2:33:14
ticket service did briefed members of the House today.
2:33:16
Three sources familiar with that briefing tell NBC News that they
2:33:19
had narrowed down the list of individuals who were in the area
2:33:22
in question 40 hours before the cocaine was found to between
2:33:25
506 100 People
2:33:27
Adam Curry: now, the only person who has the right idea about
2:33:30
this also played this next one. So what are they going to do
2:33:33
with these 500 people?
2:33:34
Unknown: Did they interview anybody?
2:33:36
Now that we know of and basically what we've been told
2:33:39
is they looked at the surveillance video, they went
2:33:42
through the visitor logs. And I suspect they would have done
2:33:46
interviews if they had had some sort of forensic evidence that
2:33:49
they could try to match to someone but no one has talked
2:33:52
about interviews. In the time that I've been working on this
2:33:54
over the last 10 days.
2:33:56
Adam Curry: I've been working for 10 days on this dime size
2:33:58
baggie gate. So
2:33:59
Unknown: the surprising thing is people would expect of course
2:34:02
they can solve it. The FBI crime lab was involved fort Dietrich,
2:34:05
which does very sophisticated testing for
2:34:10
Adam Curry: calling the Dietrich boss
2:34:11
John C Dvorak: depresses.
2:34:18
So I have to assume that they mentioned a fort Dietrich had to
2:34:23
do with the fact that they thought it might be anthrax. And
2:34:27
we know that that's where it would have come from.
2:34:32
Adam Curry: Oh, this is so good.
2:34:34
Unknown: Expect Of course they can solve it. The FBI crime lab
2:34:37
was involved fort Dietrich which does very sophisticated testing
2:34:41
of things that could be anthrax or rice in or biological Asian.
2:34:45
In this case what they're saying is it was a very small plastic
2:34:48
baggie they could not get
2:34:49
Adam Curry: a very small plastic baggy, baggy, baggy baggy,
2:34:53
they're
2:34:53
Unknown: saying is it was a very small plastic baggie, they could
2:34:55
not get fingers in a ziplock
2:34:58
John C Dvorak: I've got to throw on a second. Where's the report?
2:35:00
Yeah,
2:35:00
Adam Curry: I've got to think all these people are do coke.
2:35:04
John C Dvorak: Where except where is the reporting and
2:35:07
whether it's a Ziploc bag or a GLAAD bag? What kind of bag is
2:35:11
it?
2:35:11
Adam Curry: Well, they all know what it means because they're
2:35:13
all using the baggie code. Hey, you got a baggie on you. Yeah,
2:35:15
make music Give me some coke. I'm about to go on air except
2:35:18
chip Todd. Chuck Todd. He doesn't know anything.
2:35:22
John C Dvorak: No. He never. Well, that's fair for the
2:35:25
course. Sure. He's square, square man do coke.
2:35:29
Adam Curry: He doesn't do we're just like no, get rid of that
2:35:32
guy. He's not partying in sales
2:35:34
Unknown: of things that could be anthrax or rice in our
2:35:36
biological Asian. In this case, what they're saying is it was a
2:35:40
very small plastic baggie, they could not get fingerprints that
2:35:43
were usable off of that they did some advanced testing, expensive
2:35:47
process.
2:35:48
John C Dvorak: expensive process. Oh, that's the process
2:35:51
where they do the that sublimation process is kind of
2:35:54
expensive,
2:35:55
Unknown: some advanced testing, expensive process, and DNA
2:35:59
didn't have enough material to do a comparison. If they had
2:36:02
found something then you would need to figure out well, how do
2:36:04
you compare it? And if you're talking about visitors, people
2:36:08
who are coming in on a tour, a staff lead tour, not opposed
2:36:11
just
2:36:11
gonna say we should remind people this is this is why I'm a
2:36:15
little skeptical of whether they could find it or not. Because
2:36:18
this is not the most trafficked entrance and this is the VIP
2:36:22
entrance in some form or another as
2:36:24
VIPs goes through there. They're our ally get
2:36:27
John C Dvorak: their story straight. It's first it was
2:36:29
carpenters only went through there. It was by the parking
2:36:32
lot.
2:36:34
Adam Curry: It's Camelus. I'm sure this is not
2:36:37
Unknown: the most traffic entrance and this is the VIP
2:36:40
entrance West exactly in some form or another as
2:36:43
VIPs go through there. But there are a lot it. I call it a
2:36:47
working entrance meaning not
2:36:49
to go. I mean, I've only been through there if I've been
2:36:52
escorted. Yes. It's not a presidentially, it
2:36:54
Adam Curry: is not a presidentially if I've been oh
2:36:55
it's not the press isn't we may know everything about baggies
2:36:58
but it's not us it's not our it's not our not our skank not
2:37:01
art not our not our blow, not our powder, not our snow babies,
2:37:05
not us. Certainly not chip togs but those who just said, It's
2:37:10
not us. It's not us if we didn't Well, we're all cool kids here
2:37:13
because we all talk about baggies. By the way. I love how
2:37:15
fast you're
2:37:15
Unknown: talking, not a press entry. It
2:37:17
is not a press entrance. But those who are
2:37:20
Adam Curry: it's the drug dealers entrance. We all know
2:37:22
that's where the dealers come in entry. It
2:37:24
Unknown: is not a press entrance. But those who are
2:37:27
right now there's a lot of construction being done some
2:37:29
remodeling being done. Contractors, contract personnel,
2:37:34
Adam Curry: the damn carpenters, you're right, John,
2:37:35
Unknown: staff will go through there, the President will go
2:37:37
through they're going over to the EOB. But in terms of
2:37:40
visitors, it was a holiday weekend. And there are a lot of
2:37:43
staff led tours that happen after work hours and on the
2:37:46
weekend. And so we've some officials are saying the leading
2:37:49
theory it was as a visitor,
2:37:51
Adam Curry: no. Marjorie Taylor Greene has the right idea.
2:37:55
Unknown: This is why I'm a little skeptical of whether they
2:37:57
could find it or not. Because this is not the most trafficked
2:38:00
entrance, and this is the VIP entrance.
2:38:03
John C Dvorak: This is not what I wanted. Can I make a comment?
2:38:07
Just coming to me she wants to do is drop a drop point. I think
2:38:10
that was a secret. That's why there is no fingerprints or
2:38:14
anything on it because the guy literally did a wipe down and he
2:38:18
dropped it there for someone else to pick up. Possible. I
2:38:24
guess it was it was the dealers drop point he got somehow
2:38:27
involved with the carpenters. Whoever's going in there, you
2:38:29
got through, got through the interest dropped it there for
2:38:33
someone Camela or Hunter come to mind to pick it up. When they
2:38:39
didn't pick it up. Who else doesn't pick stuff up? Well,
2:38:43
then there must be a Venmo laptop anybody is example of the
2:38:48
past not picking up a laptop not picking up your drugs?
2:38:52
Adam Curry: I think the I think this is a duplicate clip. I
2:38:54
think because Marjorie Taylor Greene, let me see if it's here.
2:38:57
Hold on a second. We don't know
2:38:58
Unknown: that's the most likely thing is somebody that was
2:39:02
there's a drug policy and drug testing requirements for
2:39:04
employees of the White
2:39:06
House, you still do drug testing. And it's randomized
2:39:08
drug test. Yes,
2:39:09
they do. And so one of the congresswoman Marjorie Taylor
2:39:12
Greene was saying well test all 500 of the names. Yes, of
2:39:15
course, you need probable cause to do that. Massively test
2:39:19
people might have visitors. So it's an unsatisfying answer for
2:39:22
a lot of people.
2:39:23
Adam Curry: You can't just massively test Yes. If you were
2:39:25
in the White House. I think you you can be tested. You can mass
2:39:29
we tested
2:39:30
John C Dvorak: millions of people for Kobe. No, it's a
2:39:32
waste of time.
2:39:33
Adam Curry: Well, the view had more more interesting data than
2:39:38
these jokes.
2:39:39
Unknown: Here's what I'd say. Is this the most important story of
2:39:41
our time? Yes, it is. No, does it matter? Yes. So this entrance
2:39:45
where it was found is the West exec entrance into
2:39:49
John C Dvorak: the library.
2:39:50
Adam Curry: Now, everyone's lying. That's why it's so funny.
2:39:53
When which
2:39:53
Unknown: is not one that is used for more ceremonial events. It's
2:39:56
really where senior staff who have blue badges that allow them
2:39:59
access For the West Wing going to senior staff you have to be
2:40:02
escorted in if you're a guest by somebody who has a bad show, and
2:40:05
it's literally 10 steps from the Situation Room, which I believe
2:40:08
is under renovation, but just so you get a sense of like where it
2:40:11
is in the building,
2:40:12
Adam Curry: maybe it was one of the the generals, or the, you
2:40:15
know, the five star generals, all jacked on Coke, the VP.
2:40:20
Ooh, the VP.
2:40:24
Unknown: The VP vice president Harris walks in that entrance
2:40:27
every day because her motorcade drops her off there
2:40:29
Adam Curry: every day. That's, that's your that's your drop
2:40:32
point.
2:40:34
John C Dvorak: That's the rumor. Hey, VP,
2:40:35
Adam Curry: a VP. I'll drop it. And you will know when you come
2:40:38
in tomorrow, through this entrance as you do every day,
2:40:40
just send me a Venmo
2:40:41
Unknown: it's foot traffic of senior staff and every person
2:40:44
visitors to and their little cubbies because you have to be
2:40:48
escorted by seniors to be invited. And you have to be
2:40:50
excited have gone through the waves program and be escorted by
2:40:53
someone.
2:40:54
Adam Curry: The waves program you see everyone who goes in as
2:40:56
part of the White House, access something restriction, whatever.
2:41:01
Obama put that in place, everyone that we went through is
2:41:03
known.
2:41:04
Unknown: But it gets interesting. Yeah, everyone who
2:41:07
works on the White House camp PIs has to get a drug test
2:41:10
before they're ever eligible to work there. And you're subjected
2:41:12
to random screenings. I actually got one once after having kidney
2:41:15
stones and then tested positive for the painkillers. I went on
2:41:19
and had to get medical records. But
2:41:21
Adam Curry: why were you going through that entrance? You know,
2:41:24
I think a lot of these people all know about this, they go
2:41:28
through this entrance all the time to get their briefings, not
2:41:31
the you know, not press briefing, but actually from you
2:41:33
know, senior staffers, this is what you're going to say. And
2:41:36
you'll tell us from sources close to the matter. People
2:41:39
familiar with the President's thinking here's your coke go
2:41:41
away
2:41:41
Unknown: long story short people in those positions cannot be
2:41:44
doing drugs. Our adversaries could exploit it. It's it's not
2:41:47
a small deal. I don't think did it. So
2:41:50
the thing is, like cocaine gate. We don't know who did this. I'm
2:41:53
thinking maybe it's a tourist. A stupid tourist, I guess somebody
2:41:58
like that. Like
2:41:59
Adam Curry: she doesn't have tees. This woman tourists.
2:42:01
John C Dvorak: I guess that's that's what's her name? Yeah,
2:42:05
the x again, check the lawyer. A Republican. No, no, no, this is
2:42:10
Anna. What's her name? No,
2:42:11
Adam Curry: it's not Anna. This is the lawyer. No cane
2:42:14
Unknown: gate. We don't know who did this. I'm thinking maybe
2:42:17
it's
2:42:17
Adam Curry: a story right? It is Anna Anna Navarro who's on
2:42:20
ozempic.
2:42:21
Unknown: We don't know who did this. I'm thinking maybe it's a
2:42:23
tourist a stupid tourists, I guess some money like that. And
2:42:28
you've got to put your phone there. He's got to put your bag
2:42:31
there. You gotta you gotta put stuff there. And so somebody
2:42:34
just
2:42:37
Adam Curry: noticed notice the absence of the term baggy,
2:42:41
Unknown: listen, marks down everything you have to do to be
2:42:43
in that part of the White House. I wonder why it seemed to be a
2:42:46
blind spot for a security camera. We can't go to a
2:42:49
Broadway show. We can't go. We can't fly without taking our
2:42:52
shoes off. Yet. You have this very private part of the White
2:42:55
House and they don't have cameras on the cubbyhole. I'm
2:42:57
surprised because they do have peeping wrecks. When we talk
2:43:00
about the security problems. They had the breaches the
2:43:03
warnings, and then you look at the classified documents, again,
2:43:05
people on both parties having them. There's some stuff that
2:43:08
needs to be tightened up ASAP. When you're kids, you know those
2:43:13
cubbies where you put shoes when your kids come in, that's what
2:43:15
these cubbies look like. Right? So they're tiny, these cubbies?
2:43:18
So if you're taking your phone out of your pocket, not that
2:43:21
I've brought anything into the White House that I wouldn't like
2:43:24
seen. But if you're taking your Yeah, and you put it in the
2:43:26
cubby and this, you there's no way that they know it's 50 if
2:43:30
they have a video, whoever's in cubby don't have a video. They
2:43:35
have it's a blind spot of Beckham, I have to say no, that
2:43:38
hubby and there were cameras on there. You'd know who was in
2:43:41
that lock
2:43:42
on the Hunter Biden of it because of course it became
2:43:44
memes. And everyone's like, of course, it's hunters. I don't
2:43:46
think there's any evidence that Biden family wasn't there. I
2:43:48
think it's a bigger deal. If it's a White House staffer,
2:43:50
though they are the ones who are forbidden you're subject to
2:43:52
random drugs, drug screenings, in security clearances, you're
2:43:55
not even eligible for a top secret clearance if you've done
2:43:58
drugs in the last 10
2:43:59
Adam Curry: years. They know a lot about it, but they don't use
2:44:03
the term baggie Yeah,
2:44:05
John C Dvorak: I'm now thinking when I listen to this clip in
2:44:08
particular since that's a real conduit for false or
2:44:11
disinformation show I'll say I am pretty sure you know first I
2:44:16
was like Hunter Hunter as you obviously as Hunter but they
2:44:19
kept moving the baggie back from the library to the east wing or
2:44:24
to the West Wing library which is okay start from the East Wing
2:44:27
went to the West Wing Dan went to this entrance and then it
2:44:31
then all of a sudden is where terrorists parks or car and
2:44:34
where Harris goes in and out every day they brought that up
2:44:36
in that clip. They're trying to be this was planted this was
2:44:41
done to besmirch Harris because they don't want her even
2:44:45
thinking about running for president are gonna this is
2:44:48
gonna happen we're gonna see more and more bisb merging of
2:44:51
her I think that that read of her saying the lower population
2:44:55
probably read that on the bright off the prompter. She didn't
2:44:58
miss read pollution It was written population.
2:45:02
Adam Curry: The whole right is to discredit her as an moron.
2:45:05
cokehead Yep. I'm with you. That'll be used later. Yeah,
2:45:10
you're right and
2:45:11
John C Dvorak: then there was a we'll see more of this in other
2:45:12
words,
2:45:13
Adam Curry: I think so. I think we will we will we will within
2:45:16
there's only one news report that mentioned it that this is
2:45:19
and that was the ladies ladies of the EU who mentioned that's
2:45:23
when
2:45:23
John C Dvorak: I get a note from one of our producers saying from
2:45:26
I think he works there somewhere. He says that the
2:45:29
rumor is it's her it's her coke. He said the right I'm not
2:45:35
thinking that rumor is part of the system to rumor her out
2:45:39
she's not getting they're not going to take any chances with
2:45:42
this woman they're they're afraid of her she please
2:45:44
Adam Curry: notice our producer said the room Inte R u m i n t
2:45:48
which is rumor Intel. Yeah, rumor intel that meet and of
2:45:52
course, which is made up as far as I can tell. But that's
2:45:56
someone who's in the know.
2:45:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree. And that probably is the room is
2:46:02
probably saying it's her but that doesn't mean it's not hers.
2:46:05
She's not being set up. We're always have to be aware of this
2:46:08
setup, the misdirection and I think that's what we're dealing
2:46:12
with.
2:46:12
Adam Curry: Thank you. Right. Thank you. Right.
2:46:15
John C Dvorak: So she's she's a target she's out. Gavin's got to
2:46:18
be cut. Cut off at the knees too. He's no good they can do
2:46:21
it. I can let him get in this RFK Jr. You watch you heard it
2:46:26
here first. Yeah, he is the nominee.
2:46:30
Adam Curry: Yes. And then it's amazing what he's saying and
2:46:33
what he's getting away with? No, we actually we had a rare chat
2:46:36
about this after the show. Because I want to make sure
2:46:40
everyone knows that as your idea that that RFK Bobby The K is an
2:46:45
OP. And he and I if I'll paraphrase your theory, which I
2:46:50
like the CIA is preparing to put him in and it's a it's a mate
2:46:56
good. And the mate good goes like this. Hey, man, we're sorry
2:47:00
about your dad. Sorry about your uncle. I really suck. I know. I
2:47:03
know. We're gonna make good when they let you be President. First
2:47:06
thing you got to do is go stop this annoying Big Pharma dare
2:47:10
kill our job to kill people not theirs. So you're gonna get rid
2:47:14
of them. There's a couple of deep state people we want out
2:47:17
we're going to straighten some stuff out. But you'll be our boy
2:47:22
that I paraphrase them correctly is
2:47:24
John C Dvorak: part of it. Yeah, I think that's it that
2:47:25
summarizes things they they need to get back on track and that
2:47:30
ended pharma thing is out of control. They got to pull those
2:47:32
that advertising thing Kennedy's all in on that.
2:47:36
Adam Curry: And they've got the military industrial complex is
2:47:40
also a pain on their ass. And I think this latest released video
2:47:45
from Bobby The K which the New York Post titled as RFK Jr. Says
2:47:52
COVID may have been ethnically targeted to spare Jews, which is
2:47:57
not at all he said. What but I so this was a a very noisy clip.
2:48:05
I pulled it through the Adobe
2:48:08
John C Dvorak: AI as a miracle worker.
2:48:10
Adam Curry: Now, it didn't do that great of a job.
2:48:14
Interestingly, it straightened out his speech. See if I see
2:48:18
what you think and if that's interesting, if you don't think
2:48:21
it's any good, I'll stop it because it's still pretty noisy
2:48:23
but it's straighten out his speech to a certain degree and
2:48:26
we need to talk about bio weapons. Weapons because you
2:48:32
can't hear that at all. Can you
2:48:34
John C Dvorak: It's terrible. What ended Adobe didn't get that
2:48:37
noise out of there. And
2:48:38
Adam Curry: let me see if it got better here, hold on.
2:48:41
Unknown: Two and a half years and
2:48:44
Adam Curry: now it doesn't work. It doesn't work. You know,
2:48:46
John C Dvorak: I'll bet you his speeches. So here's the problem.
2:48:51
Adobe looks for the tries to find a vocal, it found it fixed
2:48:56
it was in the noise. And he speaks with noise built into his
2:49:00
voice.
2:49:01
Adam Curry: I think the problem is well there's one thing I
2:49:03
could try honestly, I think the problem is because I'm pulling
2:49:06
it through my compressor. Let me see if I turn the compressor
2:49:09
off. Let me see what happens on one second. compressor off let's
2:49:13
see. And we need to talk about bio weapons. Weapons because No,
2:49:21
it doesn't work at all. I don't
2:49:23
John C Dvorak: talk about bio weapons. Yeah, we don't CIA is
2:49:25
all jacked up about what
2:49:27
Adam Curry: he's what he's saying is he's saying there's
2:49:29
evidence from research that the AC two receptors responded to
2:49:35
white people and black people but spared Asians and Ashkenazi
2:49:39
Jews. And he says everyone is making make a China. He says
2:49:46
we're the US we're making genetically targeted bio
2:49:51
weapons. That's what he said. Yeah, he didn't say ethnically
2:49:56
targeted despaired Jews. Which is funny, but he didn't say
2:50:02
that. So, so your theory is I like it and it's interesting
2:50:08
because I'm listening to you know we got Magga everywhere
2:50:12
here this this is this is Maga country What are you drinking?
2:50:16
John C Dvorak: Ah well this is not going to get this anymore.
2:50:20
This is boo bleh Michael boob Leigh Yes What do you think but
2:50:24
as bu bu ly was bubbling it up with one
2:50:28
Adam Curry: that he promotes that stuff he's he does.
2:50:31
John C Dvorak: Here's why I'm not buying it anymore. And it
2:50:33
says unfiltered sparkling water with electrolytes does have
2:50:39
aspartame as well. No just electrolytes. It's gotta check
2:50:42
it out as calcium chloride and potassium chloride which are two
2:50:46
salts and you know potassium chloride is something that is
2:50:50
has people some some people have issues with and it supposedly
2:50:54
add some tastes but I'd rather buy mineral water which is
2:50:58
natural or just plain seltzer. I don't want electrolytes in my
2:51:02
drink.
2:51:03
Adam Curry: No, I agree. It's no good. Where was I? Oh, Bobby,
2:51:10
the K. So here Maga country? You know, we talk we listen, we talk
2:51:17
to people. And that people you know they DeSantis is out.
2:51:22
There's no There's no quick question. Yes.
2:51:26
John C Dvorak: So I go to Costco I go to especially someplace
2:51:30
like Monterey foods or some crunchy places. And it's like
2:51:33
Monterey foods every 30% people are wearing masks. Costco at
2:51:38
least one in 10. Like they're gonna go the rest of their lives
2:51:42
wearing these stupid masks.
2:51:44
Adam Curry: I guess. I mean,
2:51:47
John C Dvorak: what do you got there? You got anybody wearing
2:51:50
these masks at the Costco? No.
2:51:53
Adam Curry: We don't have Costco. Here. We have heb if you
2:51:56
see anything, sometimes a Mexican person. You might see
2:52:03
them with a mask.
2:52:05
John C Dvorak: They're going to rob the place.
2:52:08
Unknown: Wow. Wow. Wow. So
2:52:11
John C Dvorak: the first thing that goes
2:52:15
Unknown: with it casing the joint. No, we love our Mexicans
2:52:20
here.
2:52:22
Adam Curry: So no, but this is this is Maga country this is
2:52:27
what do you call it? Mom's for Liberty country. This is people
2:52:30
who don't mess around. They they love Trump. Trump's getting a
2:52:34
raw deal now. DeSantis no good. Don't let that was it was a
2:52:39
little bit of DeSantis for a minute for a moment there that
2:52:42
went away. You bring up Bobby to K. And they are taking note. But
2:52:47
right now the only thing is there's two things. There's two
2:52:50
push backs. One is he wants to jail. All people who are anti
2:52:54
climate change. Yeah, but that's kind of that's kind of been
2:52:59
debunked. Now it's at this debunk
2:53:00
John C Dvorak: about there all this stuff is going to come out
2:53:02
is going to be missed. Misinformation misdirection.
2:53:05
That can be debunked. I had a here's an interesting one. You
2:53:08
want me to if you don't mind? My Oh, can I interject? I'm at
2:53:12
dinner. And I've got my RCA and Brennan are seated and I bring
2:53:19
up they're all in on all the Democrats stuff is unbelievable.
2:53:23
Adam Curry: Especially since they came from your loins and
2:53:26
all the
2:53:26
John C Dvorak: trans stuff they're all in
2:53:28
Adam Curry: no no this on them.
2:53:32
John C Dvorak: So just material here, you're nuts. You're right.
2:53:36
Bring up the Bobby Kennedy and I send they go on you guys a
2:53:41
crackpot do the whole thing. Just all the stuff that you're
2:53:43
supposed to say? Yeah, I said facts denier, and they're gonna
2:53:49
they're gonna go no, they don't say that. But they say it
2:53:51
besides that Trump's gonna get the nomination
2:53:54
Adam Curry: of the think is a Republican.
2:53:57
John C Dvorak: I said, why? I said you think he's a
2:54:00
Republican? RFK. Yeah, they both in agreement? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
2:54:06
Wow. And then I said, Are you too nuts? He's a he's a Kennedy.
2:54:12
For one thing. He's a Democrat. He's been born and raised the
2:54:16
days that he's part of the democratic monarchy. Are you
2:54:19
kidding me? He's Democrat royalty. Yeah. And so they both
2:54:23
pull out their phones. Both of them at the same time. They got
2:54:27
their phones out.
2:54:29
Unknown: Oh, go go. Go. Go, go go.
2:54:31
John C Dvorak: Almost simultaneously, their jaws
2:54:34
dropped.
2:54:34
Adam Curry: No way.
2:54:36
John C Dvorak: He is a Democrat.
2:54:40
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. That's a great story. Wow. It was
2:54:45
John C Dvorak: like Holy mackerel. This is an interesting
2:54:47
app.
2:54:48
Adam Curry: This is a great app. Hmm. So that's working very
2:54:52
well.
2:54:54
John C Dvorak: It's working great. Who's ever running this
2:54:56
one? Well, it's work buddy.
2:54:58
Adam Curry: I'll tell you this or gal If Trump becomes
2:55:01
president again, Bobby The K for attorney general.
2:55:05
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah, that'd be funny. But that but
2:55:07
Adam Curry: that would not be the opposite would be to have
2:55:09
the Republicans vote for him.
2:55:12
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what the OP is, is to get the
2:55:14
Republicans who like Trump like your Fredericksburg people to
2:55:18
take at least a look at Kennedy. And then as time goes by is
2:55:22
going to be the way it works is that you very soon roll off.
2:55:28
Yeah. When the mainstream turns the other way, which they will
2:55:31
Adam Curry: well hold on. So here's the news. DeSantis. We're
2:55:35
now having Ken Griffin he's the billionaire the bit one of the
2:55:39
backers. He is quote reconsidering his support for
2:55:43
DeSantis Murdoch has is now on record as saying yeah, Ronnie's
2:55:48
not doing so well out in the field. These guys if they start
2:55:54
backing Bobby The K off his arm. So it would really only it would
2:55:59
only take it would only take a small percentage of the of the
2:56:04
Maga people to turn and go to Bobby The K Hmm. Anyway, the
2:56:10
other the other objection this if I were advising Kennedy be to
2:56:14
have to work on this. The only other objection I hear is yeah,
2:56:18
now it Kennedy. He's a globalist.
2:56:22
John C Dvorak: Yes, this comes up in the conversation then I
2:56:25
think he might be. Yeah, of
2:56:27
Adam Curry: course he is. Kelo. It's all kinds of problematic
2:56:31
stuff with him. Absolutely. And I said problematic.
2:56:37
John C Dvorak: That's okay. It doesn't work doesn't bother me
2:56:39
as much as it bothers you.
2:56:41
Unknown: too. Good filler.
2:56:43
Adam Curry: I just want to do quick boots on the ground
2:56:47
reports. We have a full time driver for UPS anonymous, of
2:56:50
course, been with the company for five years now ups, I think
2:56:54
they deliver something like 15% of our entire GDP. UPS is a big
2:57:00
deal if they go on strike and we've been talking about this,
2:57:03
but the news has dropped it because you know, Coke baggy?
2:57:08
Yesterday, Friday are part time supervisors on any shift and
2:57:12
full time supervisors were told to get department of
2:57:14
transportation cards. Any supervisor full or part time but
2:57:19
hasn't driven before is getting orders to go to driving school
2:57:22
they are planning says the rumor are if part and full time union
2:57:25
employees strike the pilots and feeder drivers are striking to
2:57:30
fantasies of strike are becoming a reality. There's a lot more to
2:57:34
this note. But I did just want to point out that it seems like
2:57:38
that could actually happen. That could cripple a lot.
2:57:43
John C Dvorak: So that may be necessary to make sure Biden
2:57:45
doesn't run again. They may actually be a necessary evil,
2:57:49
that we're all gonna have to suffer through.
2:57:51
Adam Curry: Good one. Good one. And then something that you
2:57:55
know, because
2:57:56
John C Dvorak: there has been talk I should mention there has
2:57:57
been talked positive talk about both the inflation rate is down
2:58:01
to 3%. Which of course is on top of everything else. Yep. 3%. And
2:58:04
you know, they one guy literally said on one of the I think it
2:58:08
was on a PBS or an NPR show he said that is ruining the
2:58:13
Republicans talking points is inflation thing. So you're gonna
2:58:19
do something despite the fact that
2:58:20
Adam Curry: people are so broke, they can't even donate to the
2:58:22
show tells me inflation is real and is a real problem with the
2:58:26
economy. But yeah, if the if if the media goes away for the
2:58:31
media decides to pull the rug on that, oh, everything's great.
2:58:36
Because they don't make it real. They make a truth then, well,
2:58:41
it's interesting. Meanwhile, if you're in the United States of
2:58:44
America, may I humbly submit that you take a look at your
2:58:47
school board your city council and focus on that because the
2:58:51
President of the United States is not Emperor is not King and
2:58:54
doesn't control everything? That's the real psyop here your
2:58:59
local government your governor, these are the things that are
2:59:02
important not the president we shouldn't just being sigh opt
2:59:05
into talking about for the next year and a half
2:59:09
Unknown: tired of it?
2:59:11
Adam Curry: And I'm gonna have a heat report. Hate report. All
2:59:14
right. Let me see. Where's your report? Oh, you have quite the
2:59:17
report actually. Do you want to do Oh,
2:59:20
John C Dvorak: yeah, this short though. Short. All right.
2:59:22
Adam Curry: Cool. All right. What's what's up? Oh, heat
2:59:26
report. NPR.
2:59:27
Unknown: Here we go. Temperatures in parts of the
2:59:28
Southwest are expected to top 120 degrees Fahrenheit this
2:59:32
weekend. There's even a chance that forecasts are accurate that
2:59:35
Death Valley which currently holds the record for the hottest
2:59:38
air temperature ever recorded on the planet Earth at 134 degrees.
2:59:43
could see that record matched or broken. Wow. I mean, just how
2:59:46
dangerous is this? It's extremely dangerous for people
2:59:49
and wildlife study published last week estimates that more
2:59:53
than 61,000 people died during heat waves in Europe last year.
2:59:58
And we're looking at similar temperatures there Right now, in
3:00:01
the US, you know, public health officials are warning people to
3:00:03
limit activity outdoors and to check up on neighbors,
3:00:06
especially elderly people, folks with pre existing conditions.
3:00:10
And people that live in low income areas who might not have
3:00:12
access to a C or to even shade. Here's the director of
3:00:16
California Department of Public Health, Dr. Tomas was briefing
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yesterday,
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the symptoms that we become more concerned about is when your
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internal core temperature starts becoming elevated. So you may
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develop a fever. It could be impacting any organ, but the
3:00:34
organ that we become most concerned about is when it
3:00:36
starts impacting your brain.
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Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness, they're so happy in Holland. The
3:00:45
kids are back. It's beautiful here. Nothing like Texas, but
3:00:48
it's nice. They get good at memories. Well, they're alive,
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their brain has not been affected yet.
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John C Dvorak: They haven't been listening to NPR enough. Well,
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no, of course
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Adam Curry: not. I shield them from that unlike whatever you
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did to your kids. You let it seep in
3:01:07
John C Dvorak: peer groups, I can't do anything about it. Here
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we go with heat report to
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Unknown: so that when a person's judgment could be compromised,
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so they might not even recognize that they're in a dangerous
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situation or confused to take the steps they need to die down.
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I should add here to Scott that public health officials warn
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this applies to everyone. You know, California looked at
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deaths associated with a heatwave in the state last year,
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and found that many of the people who died were younger
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Latinos who were working outdoors, or even physically fit
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people who just did their regular exercise routines like
3:01:39
going for hikes or runs, do they?
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Adam Curry: Do they warn anyone in California but with this type
3:01:45
of heat, that you probably shouldn't wear a mask outside
3:01:49
because that could impair your breathing?
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John C Dvorak: That is never cropped up in the conversation.
3:01:54
Adam Curry: I think it's an important point people should
3:01:56
know. I'm not going to argue I think you're right. Let's
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John C Dvorak: go with heat report three.
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Unknown: So average temperatures on the planet have already
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increased nearly two degrees Fahrenheit, the industrial
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revolution where we really started adding co2 into the
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atmosphere. Oh, yeah. And when average temperatures go up, the
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highs become higher as we're seeing right now. The last eight
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years were the hottest years on record for the always
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Adam Curry: this is pissing me off.
3:02:21
John C Dvorak: How much can you hear over and over? They keep
3:02:24
hounding us with this information it's going part for
3:02:27
Unknown: preliminary data shows that the first week of this
3:02:29
month of July was the hottest the world has ever 1000s and
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1000s and 1000s. And all these records are expected to continue
3:02:40
to be broken as we continue to release more fossil fuel
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emissions into the atmosphere. That's NPR state rot.
3:02:46
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right. Yeah, yeah, no, I do have a
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kicker. I
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Unknown: have a kicker now brother.
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Adam Curry: You're gonna kick me in gas with this stuff.
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John C Dvorak: By the way, 10,000 years hottest ever had a
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heat wave kicker
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Unknown: much of the San Francisco Bay area is under an
3:03:02
excessive heat warning this weekend. Temperatures in some
3:03:05
cities are forecast to reach 106 degrees from member station KQED
3:03:10
azul Dahlstrom. Ekman has more
3:03:12
county officials throughout the Bay Area are opening cooling
3:03:16
centers and directing people to limit outdoor activities. Dial
3:03:20
hyung is a meteorologist with the National Weather Service. He
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says while many are accustomed to the heat, it's important to
3:03:27
look out for the most vulnerable in these situations
3:03:30
and to check on the elderly the young, the sick and anyone else
3:03:35
who might the masks have a elevated risk of heat related
3:03:40
illness.
3:03:40
The region is expected to see cooling by Wednesday. The
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heatwave is affecting much of California. Luckily, the state's
3:03:47
power grid says it has adequate reserves to keep the power on
3:03:53
whether we ever have a
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John C Dvorak: power reserve report did last time that was
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was when Gray Davis was the governor.
3:04:03
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna let you get away with this divorce
3:04:04
duck because if you're going to do this, I have to play my three
3:04:08
clips. My heat related clips and these are all of John Kerry
3:04:17
watermelon head himself our climate czar. Former
3:04:21
presidential candidate former is the former senator is he still
3:04:24
listen Is he still Senator
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John C Dvorak: knows nothing now he's no he
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Unknown: our climate czar climate czar. being ripped a new
3:04:37
Adam Curry: orifice by Scott Perry Representative Scott
3:04:41
Perry. Then it was just enjoyable to see this douche
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knuckle
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Unknown: squirm.
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Adam Curry: Let's start off with let me see what is number one
3:04:50
here. The clip number one is concerning the amount of Scioto
3:04:58
secretary
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Unknown: in 2015 At the Paris Climate Conference, you said
3:05:01
that if all industrial nations go to zero emissions, it
3:05:05
wouldn't be enough. And then at the White House is climate day
3:05:07
in January of 21, you said almost 90% of the planet's
3:05:11
emissions come from outside the US, we could go to zero
3:05:14
tomorrow, and the problem isn't, isn't solved. And in April 21,
3:05:18
you told The Washington Post that even the US and China going
3:05:22
to zero emissions tomorrow won't solve the climate problem. Then
3:05:26
in April 21, you said that global net zero is not enough
3:05:29
and that co2 must be removed from the atmosphere? How much is
3:05:34
the correct amount of co2? Let me explain to you if I can say
3:05:38
you understand exactly what I said. That's close. But it's not
3:05:43
quite exactly what I was saying. When I say what, let me tell you
3:05:47
what it says, I'm going to tell you what the here's how it
3:05:49
works. Because we have put, I'd forget the exact number of tons,
3:05:55
millions of tons of co2 and other greenhouse gases are now
3:05:59
in the atmosphere, they're there. And every day, we're
3:06:02
adding more. And so every day the heat is going up. And we
3:06:05
have to figure out how we're going to, you know, tame the
3:06:09
monster here. The only way to do that is to reduce emissions on
3:06:14
an ongoing basis to get control and the current level of
3:06:19
emissions that we have created, but was then but actually
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sucked, sir. With all due respect. You've been through
3:06:26
this for what is the correct amount? I don't want to spend a
3:06:29
bunch of time about a history lesson about things that people
3:06:31
don't care about.
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Adam Curry: No, of course, he had no correct amount. I love
3:06:34
this. When what is the correct temperature for the earth? What
3:06:36
is the correct amount of co2? There's no answer from these
3:06:39
dishes. Let's blame it on the humans, though. What changes
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Unknown: every day? I can't tell you directly without changing.
3:06:46
Yes, it does. So Secretary, you probably know that for
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approximately 200 million years. What's What's the parts per
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million now? That 400? Right. Can we agree over 400? All
3:06:58
right, so that 400 million years 2000 parts per million? Did
3:07:02
mother nature get it wrong for 200 million years? Here's the
3:07:05
difference, Congressman, the difference is yes, there were
3:07:09
Matt, there are periods which all the scientists who deal with
3:07:12
climate acknowledge that there have been moments on the planet,
3:07:16
which is billions of years old, in which there were greater heat
3:07:21
and there was great, I mean, the difference quickly I've got a
3:07:24
difference is human beings. That's the difference all human
3:07:29
1000 years old, but but during these periods of time, where it
3:07:33
was 2000 parts per million. life existed as a matter of fact, not
3:07:38
people, not human beings walking around the lowest periods of
3:07:43
carbon in the atmosphere, and not only recorded history in the
3:07:46
history of life existing on the planet, in December of 2022, you
3:07:51
told The Washington Post, we need to remove 1.6 trillion tons
3:07:55
of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere via direct air
3:07:58
capture the cost for that as about $1,000 per tonne, or 1.6
3:08:04
quadrillion dollars. Now I said you said you didn't know. But
3:08:07
since 2015, since the last time Lenio, about 500 billion tons
3:08:12
have been have been emitted into the atmosphere during that same
3:08:16
period of time. 2015. If you look at the temperature graph,
3:08:20
this is from NOAA, the temperature has gone down to the
3:08:24
next slide. This is from NASA satellite data, temperature has
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gone down.
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Adam Curry: So he's just gonna hound him on the 1.6 quadrillion
3:08:32
dollars, you
3:08:32
Unknown: want to have the have the American taxpayers, my
3:08:36
constituents that are having a hard time afford their
3:08:38
groceries, pay for a car, buy a new home spent 1.6 quadrillion
3:08:43
dollars to fix a problem that he doesn't exist. And as a matter
3:08:47
of fact, you might be exacerbating because it's
3:08:51
unknown. It is unknown at this time, the low level that of
3:08:55
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that might actually destroy
3:08:59
life. Because plant life all depends, as you know, Secretary
3:09:03
plant life all depends on co2. And when we kill it, then we're
3:09:08
done too. I yield the balance carbon. Let me just say that. I
3:09:12
don't agree with what you're saying out there for any number
3:09:15
of reasons. I don't have time to go into all of that. But I just
3:09:17
tell you that the difference between the periods you're
3:09:22
looking at in terms of heat cetera and human human input is
3:09:27
night and day. Number one, number two, why do you think 195
3:09:32
countries in the world their prime ministers their president
3:09:37
because they're grifting? Like you are sir. Yeah. This that's
3:09:42
pretty shocking
3:09:42
statement that you believe who is the scientists in the
3:09:45
Adam Curry: world? This is Representative Scott Perry.
3:09:49
Let's hear that one again.
3:09:51
Unknown: Because their Prime Minister's their president
3:09:54
because they're grifting like you are sir.
3:09:58
Oh, that's pretty good. Fight towards you
3:10:01
believe that all the scientists in the world are all not all
3:10:05
scientists agree with you, Mr. 98% of all the science and
3:10:09
science isn't about agreement. It's not about consensus. You
3:10:12
know, that Chair now
3:10:13
John C Dvorak: recognizes Mr. Feuless McCormack well that was
3:10:17
an excellent clip that was a good guy, right? Like yeah, we
3:10:21
got to follow him. Yeah. And on his mailing list
3:10:26
Adam Curry: he's a grifter like all of them.
3:10:29
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Guess the bully explanation I can come
3:10:32
up with it's all
3:10:33
Adam Curry: a big grift don't fall for it people. But don't
3:10:37
wear a mask outside either in the summer and have show mixes
3:10:42
we have the fabulous Sir Chris Wilson answer seat sitter
3:10:46
actually was cool. Chris Wilson, who did the Google song it's
3:10:50
starseed sitter does the Q anon man both
3:10:53
John C Dvorak: classic Q anon Mansur grace,
3:10:55
Adam Curry: both of the classic end of show mixes we appreciate
3:10:58
them. And coming up next bowls with butts are Spencer Dane
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DeLorean and cold acid as guests make sure you check that out
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listen to it on no agenda stream.com Troll room.io and we
3:11:13
will return on Thursday with another lengthy deconstruction
3:11:17
of your mainstream media who by the way are idiots coming to you
3:11:21
from the heart country here And reason number six in the morning
3:11:24
everybody I'm Adam curry
3:11:26
John C Dvorak: and for Northern Silicon Valley where at least
3:11:30
this is not hot this guy actually quite tempered is
3:11:34
perfect around at least where I am I'm Jhansi Dvorak
3:11:36
Adam Curry: we return on Thursday remember us at
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devora.org/na Send us some value back everybody till then adios
3:11:43
mofos who ends
3:11:46
Unknown: a lot of surprises Melissa
3:11:48
but I just want to put something in perspective of the world
3:11:51
cannot live without Google we can't live without Facebook but
3:11:54
Google is part of the fabric oxygen of the internet
3:11:57
Adam Curry: this is completely disturbing we can't live we
3:12:00
can't live without can easily live without Google
3:12:04
Unknown: know I can forget this evening when I spend my time
3:12:10
just being and oh my wasted life on data I showed you
3:12:34
will face back saying tomorrow you know what but we'll all be
3:12:43
better off if it works
3:13:04
again
3:13:12
I can I can being in
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a mall
3:13:36
John C Dvorak: being by the way does work. You don't need Google
3:13:40
necessarily the one you can't live without and I've written
3:13:43
about this too is Amazon
3:13:49
Unknown: it's the ninth of December 2019 to big report
3:13:55
drops any minute there's so much excitement on fuel the
3:14:01
indictment is can't wait to see HILLARY IN PRISON
3:14:16
big report dropped suddenly. And Russia was solid and I've left
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his show. bar bar by bar another retired.
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Long Mr. Man, bring us a string of love for eternity. So we
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never rise up above you either
3:15:15
out Sean Brennan may be the law any clapper Mayo is running free
3:15:23
because we still might get paid but we'll all be good slaves
3:15:27
because you will always be bad Solow eight Band Aid will be
3:15:44
trained human and non man Nom nom nom nom rise up to skinny
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struggling
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to bring us along Mr. Man tell us to trust the plan because
3:16:11
otherwise we might resume things in YouTube
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vorak.org/in A I think they're fantastic
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