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Adam Curry: The carbon is you,
Unknown: Adam curry John C
Devora.
Adam Curry: July 16 2023 this
pure award winning combination
media assassination episode 1573
This
Unknown: is no agenda
Adam Curry: not afraid of AI at
all and broadcasting the Texas
Hill Country here and SEMA
reason number six in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley words where it is
actually national AI
Appreciation Day. I'm Justin
Borak.
Unknown: It is not it is.
Adam Curry: Coop is supported by
presidential proclamation
John C Dvorak: go to what's it
called? whitehouse.gov de.com
has all the holidays today is
the following national national
National Corn fritter day
Adam Curry: well now stop the
press. Okay.
John C Dvorak: National Ice
Cream day. National a fresh
spinach day. Oh man of course.
guinea pig Appreciation Day.
Yes, okay. National Cherry de
cherry national atomic Veterans
Day.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, whose
event of it atomic
John C Dvorak: exposures to plug
the Oppenheimer movie. Yeah. Oh,
there you go. rural transit day.
Feast of Our Lady of Mount
Carmel and world snake day and
artificial intelligence
Appreciation Day.
Adam Curry: Well, I'm so happy
we can celebrate that with an
actor strike. Dudes Oh, dude,
dude, dude. podcast is the
future. These guys are never
going to resolve this dispute.
Ever. Too
John C Dvorak: late. I had a
long chat with Brunetti our
Hollywood producer.
Adam Curry: Yes. A hot hot hot
big time hotshot Hollywood
producing shot
John C Dvorak: how to
Adam Curry: shut cards. How's
John C Dvorak: everything
running radio
Adam Curry: is brought and who
knows? Yeah, hopefully you know
we'll because that'll get you
the big part. You've been
looking for it? No, it won't.
Yeah, okay. So you this is a
boots on the ground reports
straight from the top of the
entertainment empire.
John C Dvorak: First of all, he
goes off on the writers.
Adam Curry: Yeah, in what way?
John C Dvorak: Writers all they
do is whine. He says you can
produce a movie that never shows
the light of day and nobody gets
paid except the writers. Yeah,
that's true. There's always four
writers because three of them
couldn't do the job.
Adam Curry: How many writers
does it take to screw in a light
bulb? On and
John C Dvorak: on about the
writer so he doesn't really for
the writer. Wait a minute,
Adam Curry: the writers the
writers find themselves to be
incredibly important. They
create a eyes the AI
John C Dvorak: thing is a straw
man. Crappy scissors. No way.
Yes. That is ever going to your
writers have all these specific
skills that really take a human
is to fine tune for AI to go
into. But then he goes into the
Screen Actors Guild where he
signs up sag AFTRA it's now
combined say after Yes, he goes
after them and he says that for
one thing they've been using,
you know, using fakes situations
in the background forever. And
the idea that they're going to
take every screen extra that
comes in they're going to take
their picture pay him for one
shot and then use them forever
for free. He says he says
they're missing the whole point
is this this is it this is a a
kind of a buyers market with
slower sellers market slowdowns.
Adam Curry: Explain what that
means I understand it but just
explain what that means use them
and
John C Dvorak: the idea is the
sag after one of their
complaints is they're worried
sick that the extras even though
I thought that was the screen
extra skilled but okay, I guess
joined forces. The extras are
going to walk into the guys just
sit around the background and
sit at the tables are going to
come in. They're going to
they're going to 3d scan him
paying for that one day's work
and then use the you know, an AI
created background and from then
on, and they're never going to
get paid residuals. You know,
they're going to get screwed.
Yeah. Now, he came up with what
I thought was one of the most
brilliant things I've ever heard
I have to say. He says he says
that they're kind of missing the
point he says you could create
at any studio, a profit center
using the following tech
technique. charge people charge
people $100 to come in with
under the guise Do you want To
be in a movie, they pay 100
bucks, you scan them 3d scan
them, put them in all these
movies and say, you're gonna be
in a bunch of movies, we'll send
you an email letting you know
what movies you're going to be
in for the next 10 movies, free
tickets.
Adam Curry: And they don't even
have to do that. And popcorn
John C Dvorak: was he said that?
They would, you would, you
would, for example, Adam curry
you give him 100 bucks for the
service or the, for the
privilege for the privilege of
being in these movies. And you'd
get an email telling you when
you're going to be in it, it
would be would people would line
up by the 1000s. And you can set
up a shop in Hollywood and just
say be in a movie. Bring your
100 bucks and here we go.
Alright, let's he's actually
going to present this to a
studio.
Adam Curry: I think that's the
dynamite idea. But this, of
course, is not the problem at
all. This This has nothing to do
with the core issue. And I have
a couple of clips from around
the globe. And I'm very, very, I
can listen to Fran Drescher talk
all day I
Unknown: have one. Fran
Drescher. I
Adam Curry: love hearing her
talk. I love it when she's all
riled up. She still looks
amazingly good.
Unknown: How old is she supposed
to be
John C Dvorak: in your 60s 9093?
Adam Curry: Even without makeup,
she's there without makeup. As
far as I can tell. She looks
great. I just love how she How
does she get that gig? Is that
is that voted? Is that? The
members? Yes.
John C Dvorak: To get you have
to this is a lot of work to get
that gig. Well she have to raise
your ear to run you know you've
just voted in thing Yeah, right
there was the last one it did
Adam Curry: see the real I'll
just say it up front. The
problem is the movie business is
now owned by the technology
business. Big tech owns the
movies. And it's turned from
theaters Yes, theater still
important. But we can see the
writing on the wall. theaters
are moving into the home. Soon
you'll you'll help sit in your
tiny home, you've got your apple
vision Pro and your enjoy your
tiny home telling you this is
the future you will be looking
at this huge screen you will be
enjoying it, can you enjoy it
with friends, you can look over
and look in their so called
eyes. And it's going to be it's
going to be great experience.
But as we know, the model for
Silicon Valley is give me all of
your creative energy. Give me
your identity, and I'll give you
shit. That is the that's the
model. That's the Twitter model.
That's the Facebook model.
That's the Google model. Give me
everything, including your
actual identity, and I will give
you nothing. So while we're
doing value for value is the
only way forward, because people
also can no longer afford to
have all these different
subscriptions. And guess what?
Even though Fran doesn't want to
believe it, the magic money
machine is over. There's no more
cheap free money. Everyone's
losing their ass on streaming.
Yeah, sure Bob Iger is doing
okay. Bob had them.
John C Dvorak: A few CEOs are
doing okay. Not to the extent
the clip I have of her. She
claims they're making hundreds
of millions of dollars a day.
Adam Curry: Well, let me let me
play a couple clips here. And
then and then we'll continue
because I have a few more things
to say about writers and actors.
First we go to CNN
Unknown: will also happen in
this morning TV and movie
production brought to a grinding
for the union representing
160,000 actors goes on strike
members joining picket lines
alongside writers who walked off
the job in May, the issues that
center around pay streaming
service residuals, but also
things like technology,
especially artificial
intelligence. Sir Fisher joins
us live now. And Sarah. That's
the thing that of all the
elements here and they're all
critical to the negotiations
that are ongoing to the extent
they are at this point. It's the
AI issue. And I think the
central nature of it, what
exactly are actors concerned
about? And how do they actually
want it addressed?
It's a huge issue, Phil. So
essentially, what the studios
are trying to say is that an
actor or somebody who's working
in the background, think about a
stunt double, et cetera, could
have their image be screened.
And then anytime it's used after
that the studio would maintain
the name image and likeness,
meaning that they by the
Adam Curry: way, this is a stunt
double who of course, looks like
an existing actor. For the CNN
Montt news model to set Waltham
This is they could have take a
stump Python ball and they
again, you know, could they use
them over? You are dumb lady,
you're dumb benefits.
John C Dvorak: Hold on a second.
I agree with that. But do you
notice the use of name image and
likeness which is the term this
very specific term that was
applied to college athletes?
Adam Curry: Oh, good catch. Good
catch.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, because
what happened in college
athletics is that the because of
some lawsuits starting in
California and other places,
they started suing the NCAA
because these poor kids are
getting ripped off for their
name, image and likeness. Well
and says okay, now the student
owns it so they can go sell
their own name, image and
likeness. So there's something
about that phrase showing up in
this report. It that right there
is kind of a red flag. Well
Adam Curry: Mind you, this is
the news business and if anyone
is really afraid of being
replaced by AI it's the news
models because they know they
know that they are
John C Dvorak: there. Whatever
happened to naked news? still
around.
Adam Curry: I think it's what
stopped the press. Hold on.
Let's go back. Naked news doc. I
believe it's still in on the
air. Let me see naked news.com
Yes, it's still on the air,
John. Oh, yep. Welcome to naked
news. Yeah, let's see, Cecilia
is still
John C Dvorak: getting clips
from naked news, Marina
Adam Curry: Valmont, and Frankie
Kennedy all still on air, naked
new
Unknown: image be screened. And
then anytime it's used after
that the studio would maintain
the name image and likeness,
meaning that they could benefit
and monetize that person's, you
know, image, but the person who
is getting actually their image
scanned would only get paid for
that one day. So that's the big
sticking point that the actors
are very frustrated about. It's
a huge issue, though, because AI
is taking over every single
industry, not just Hollywood,
but the news media, all sorts of
things. But within Hollywood
itself. It's coming at a time
where a lot of people feel as
though they're not getting paid
enough already. So the fact that
they're not going to be able to
make money off of their name,
image and likeness. Only after
they do the scan is what's
really this big sticking point
is coming down to
Adam Curry: man her English is
horrible. It's like she's a
European speaking backwards,
like just dumb anyway, from the
sag after website itself. Let me
read this. What are the sag
AFTRA strike demands, this is
from their fac, the union is
demanding increased minimum pay
rates, increased streaming
residuals, this is the key point
really better working
conditions, please. And a way to
make royalties be a podcast if
you want better work included,
look into how well we go
through, and a way to make
royalties relevant once again,
this is all about the royalties
conversation. Now, here they
throw in the red herring since
the streaming model prioritizes.
Now it's not that this is one of
the true problems I'm sorry,
since the streaming model
prioritizes shorter seasons over
longer periods of time, the
actors are running out of jobs
and opportunities. Yes, this is
part of the real problem. They
plan to protest against that as
well. Like the WGA strike, the
guild is also trying to focus on
the artificial intelligence
aspect of the whole ordeal. No,
the problem here is there are
too many actors and too many
writers and not enough money to
go around in the business.
That's the core problem. It's
market forces. We need less
actors and less writers. Um,
John C Dvorak: I think the idea
of charging people to be in
Adam Curry: charge them to be a
writer to now let's listen to
BBC we get some Fran Drescher.
Unknown: Hollywood actors are
going on strike over pay and the
use of AI in the industry,
leaving hundreds of productions
in limbo. Hollywood writers
walked out weeks ago. And now
that members of the sag AFTRA
union have joined them, it will
bring the entire industry to its
knees.
Adam Curry: Before I continue
this clip, it must irk some
people who actually know what's
going on, that the news is only
picking up on the AI aspect of
it. Because that's not what it
is at all. They want actual
residuals, which is over.
residuals are over. It's over,
you get paid up front and that's
it. It's over. That's not coming
back the model of
John C Dvorak: if you're still
working on Blue Bloods, or
Adam Curry: John, it's obviously
in the books, it's over. That's
not the future anymore. And
quite honestly, we have so much
media so much content out there.
And yeah, in general, it just
has to, it has to shrink down
some there have to be some
losers.
Unknown: The actor, comedian and
president of the Screen Actors
Guild. Fran Drescher is fuming
she of
Adam Curry: comedian as well.
John C Dvorak: She ever a
comedian. She was she was doing
the anatomy. That's a comic
role. Okay, good point,
Unknown: the entire business
model has been changed by
streaming digital AI. If we
don't stand tall right now, we
are all going to be in jeopardy
of being replaced by machines.
We are being victimized by a
very greedy entity. I am shocked
by the way people that we have
been in business with are
treating us I cannot believe it,
how they believe that they're
losing money left and right when
giving hundreds of millions of
dollars to their CEOs. It is
disgusting. Shame on them.
Adam Curry: That's a true union
voice. You know, that's it.
She's borderline noodle boy. I
can't believe that the CEO is
making hundreds of millions of
dollars and worse we make The
product we are the coffee
John C Dvorak: shop. Yeah, no,
we aren't. Workers control the
means of production. Yes. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, that's all the union
unions do that that's what they
do. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, but it's it's
short sighted because it look
the thing that if I
John C Dvorak: had worked in the
past,
Adam Curry: if I work, yeah, but
that's over these days are over.
If I was Fran Drescher that I
would say, you know, what we're
gonna,
Unknown: I'd be surprised. It
would be interesting.
Adam Curry: I would say, look,
all the technologies, their AI
is at your fingertips, you can
create, you can create entire
screenplays together, you can do
it as a group will support you
will make sure that you have
fair contracts amongst each
other. We don't need the studios
here, we got a server is there,
oh, here's the sag after a
server, go make your own stuff.
Com movies are being made for $3
million. This is the mistake.
And this is also a huge
opportunity for non union people
to get together and do stuff.
It's a huge opportunity. While
there because this is this will
not be resolved. I don't see. I
mean, it started with DVDs. And
you know, that was the first
part of technology that really
started to ruin this.
John C Dvorak: Videotape, to be
honest about it.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Okay. But DVDs
made it so much easier. And what
happened with DVDs is the
studio's they got 75% off the
top. And that was you know, I
don't know if Fran Drescher or
was the one who was part of
those negotiations. But that was
that's where the mistake was
made. So once you give 75% Off
the top 25% is left to
distribute to everybody else. I
mean, okay, it's not going to be
great. And she has to recognize
that Disney is not just Disney
plus, that MGM has not you know,
it's not just it's Amazon. You
know, Amazon and Amazon is not
just the movie arm Apple is not
just apple plus. So it's a
little disingenuous to say the
CEOs are making hundreds of
millions of dollars. And I don't
want actors and, and writers to
be mad at me. But you have huge
opportunities now bigger than
ever get off your ass and go do
something. It means No, I mean
it get off.
John C Dvorak: You sound like
you're running parallel.
Adam Curry: Why? Maybe I am
maybe No, but it's more it's the
market. There are people who
think that, that there's plenty
of money in streaming don't know
what they're talking about. So
streaming, working,
John C Dvorak: loses. It's not
where money they can't find a
way to make money with
streaming. It's always been that
way. Anyone who's looked at the
math of running these servers
from the early days on? Yeah, at
some point it scales when you
get to some billions of users
Adam Curry: even then it's
sketchy at best. Now, and yeah,
it'd be you know, stock prices
based
John C Dvorak: on it. You
pointed this out, or one of your
you gave a speech once where you
made a big board, you made the
point of difference between the
computer based system is that
the computer, you know, it sends
out a single copy to a single
person and that's a one to one
as opposed to broadcasting like
in radio, where there's an
antenna that can that can
provide the data to 1000s and
1000s of people with you.
Adam Curry: Yeah, with every
extra customer. There's extra
cost. It's not like broadcasts
where every extra customer
decreases your cost. That's the
point. Unless you use the M bone
Unknown: which was days or
when's the last time we talked
about it?
John C Dvorak: Alright, let's
remember that that was a team
bone was it it was broadcast
over the internet kind of idea
Adam Curry: Yes. Multicast over
Oh, and it was over blue you
couldn't do it today you could
do it today. Anyway let's
John C Dvorak: let there's also
the bit territory idea where you
you you could broadcast using
bit torrent technology so
everyone was like everyone was
serving everyone else.
Adam Curry: If I may point out
no agenda tube.com uses web
torrent, and you can upload to
no agenda tube.com In fact, our
friend Mark Hall has done so
we've got a value for value
model model rockin and rollin on
that and every person who's
watching passes on bitch to the
next person. And that's just one
guy. Just you know, Alice gates
runs that, you know, he's not
rich. Now he just runs that and
it all kind of works. It's all
of this can be done all of this
as possible. But but people are
stuck in the old model and
they're lazy. Hey, man, what's
what my residuals Well, yeah,
that was okay in 1980. I know
because I was part of MTV, the
non union shop. Do you think I
get a single residual from MTV
for anything ever? No. No way.
John C Dvorak: You're the future
I
Unknown: tonight for the first
time in 63 years Both actors and
writers will be on strike. Labor
tension is now set to paralyze
Hollywood. Sag AFTRA, the union
representing actors voting to
hit the picket lines after
negotiations with the
organization that represents
studios and streamers broke down
early this morning, actor
friends Rescher best known for
her role in the daddy, now the
president of sag AFTRA, saying
they were given no choice,
you share the wealth, because
you cannot exist without us.
The more than 160,000 sag AFTRA
members demanding better pay
regulations for artificial
intelligence and increased
residuals, which for many
members provides access to
crucial health care.
26,000 bucks a year is what you
have to make to get your health
insurance and and there are a
lot of people who residual
payments are what carry them
across that threshold. The
Association
of studios and streamers said
they offer the actors historic
pay and residual increases and
promises on protecting actors
digital likenesses from Ai, but
the union says that offer was
not enough.
They came back with so little
that I began to feel like we
were duped.
What's your biggest concern
right now?
Well, I feel, you know, a big
weight and responsibility that
we had to strike. I hope that
the opposition will come back to
the table.
Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, the
parent company of ABC News.
Today speaking on the side of
the studio is saying the union's
expectations are not realistic
and could impact 1000s
There's huge collateral damage
in the industry, to people who
are you know, who are support
services, I could go on and on,
it will affect the economy of
different regions, even because
of this the sheer size of the
business. It's a shame, it is
really a shame,
Adam Curry: learn to code,
listen to actors and writers.
Now that the summer it's going
to be the summer of even less
crap than we usually have. This
is your tremendous opportunity.
Take that script you've been
sitting on that no one wants to
do anything with get some of
your actors, you can do a non
union low budget you can crowd
fund. It's being done all over.
You're you're watching you're
watching the future and you're
not even seeing the future pass
you by. You get you know a Mac,
and you can do this yourself.
You can have success, right
people will support you. If you
can make an outstanding product,
which is the question is what
the opportunity is amazing to
me. If I had any skills, I'd be
doing it. Now. This is what I
do. I don't I don't have any
writing or acting skill.
Although come on swampthing by
the way, I don't get any
residually
John C Dvorak: you were okay in
that in that story that boost
that online? thing with
detectives? whoever the hell it
was your good net detective.
Adam Curry: Oh, no, that was one
thing. No, what are you talking
about online thing with
detectives? Who you confusing me
with some MVNO
John C Dvorak: production or
something?
Adam Curry: Who do you think I
am?
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
handle online probably. Forgot
it just like
Adam Curry: an acting gig with
in video me.
John C Dvorak: Wasn't wha is?
Adam Curry: Was it the was the
amazing adventures of superhero
Tourette's? Oh, DJ Terrazza. Was
that what you're known
Unknown: as a good one? No,
let's do it.
Adam Curry: I don't recall
anything like that. But I'm just
saying that this is a golden
opportunity to create something
that people will support you.
People love, love stuff like,
Okay, I went to see sound of
freedom. Yesterday. An excellent
example. The movie was
originally crowdfunded for I
think they $5 million. Not a lot
particularly of have John Paul
DeJoria. And Tony Robbins, you
know, people chucked in a
million dollars each here and
there. And they got their money
together because they had a good
story. They had a good script
that people had never, they
attach the name to it. The lead
actor. And now of course,
because Disney just didn't see
any way to make any money off or
didn't think it was going to be
a hot ticket item. They just
shelved that which happens to
all kinds of movies. I like the
marketing angle of saying it's
because of you know, the elites.
They don't want you to know. Of
course, that's what you do,
which is which is great
marketing. Having seen this
movie, by the way, I'm now
thinking that the AMC stories of
pulling fire alarms that to me
is Guerilla Marketing.
Fantastic. There's no better
idea than to make everybody
think that the elites don't want
you to know about the story
which was perfectly accentuated
by
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of
the marketing for was that black
and white it was kind of a black
and white film they were they're
moving out in the woods with a
camera and they were finding
ghosts layer which story The
Blair Witch Project Blair
Adam Curry: Witch Project. Yes,
great, great marketing, great
marketing
John C Dvorak: using the same
style of guerilla marketing.
Adam Curry: So I want to give a
quick review and then explain
what my feelings were after
having seen this movie we went
to just north of San Antonio, to
watch this not at an AMC movie
theater. So the air conditioning
work it was full, which was nice
to see and Indiana Jones Mission
Impossible I think was open in
the same theater. But this
theater was full. In general, 20
minutes too long. A very well
done very well acted good story,
you know, based on a true story.
And if you've seen the
documentary, then you'll know
that it is based on a true
story. And this guy's real Tim
Ballard really has saved
children has put pedophiles in
jail. At no point is any child
traffic to the United States.
There's no insinuation
whatsoever of American elites
other than some some really,
really messed up drunken pedo
sex tourism and to Juana there's
no Q anon adjacent crap to any
degree whatsoever, it would have
been a great movie to watch at
home on Netflix honestly, didn't
necessarily have to see it in
theater. There's a very
beautiful plea at the end. To
raise awareness of this, and
unless you are living under
under a rock, you know that sex
trafficking is trapped sex
trafficking is real. You don't
really need to see this movie to
believe that trafficking of
children is real. I've been
aware of this going back to the
80s in Europe at the do true
affair. The Rolodex files.
Brussels is filled with with all
kinds of stories of course
that's where many elites are
Haiti we know Hillary Clinton's
buddy there who's now in charge
of amber alert was illegally
trafficking What 12 children
across the border after the
earthquake me there's example
after example, after example. So
walking out of the theater, we
looked at each other and when it
was good movie, but this movie
is while to a degree as a
parent, traumatizing you know,
when you take your kid to what
you think is a show business
audition, and you come back to
collect your kids and the
audition is gone, the sign on
the door is gone, and your kids
are gone. The only thing that is
disturbing is the mainstreams
response to it. The very
disturbing in fact, there is
nothing that warrants what the
Rolling Stone wrote. What a
Rolling Stone what the Guardian
wrote, Nothing that warrants the
responses from CNN and MSNBC.
Other than a they never saw the
movie and they're just all
jacked up because child
trafficking they're the ones
that have this q1 on thing in
their head. No child trafficking
Oh Audrina crow. They that
that's so they're so politically
motivated that that's all they
can think of that that's the
angle. That's the story. They
can't even they can't even say
something compassionate about
children. Even if it was a made
up story. You could still say,
Hey, man, this really makes you
think about what might be going
on in the world. That's the
disturbing part of this. The
movie is not that disturbing.
The concept is not eye opening.
It is disturbing how the
mainstream media responded to
this purely political. Trying to
discredit anyone who even talks
about it. That's the thing that
is i It's hard for me to rap,
it's harder for me to wrap my
head around that than around the
actual child trafficking itself.
It's these people are sick,
truly, truly sick, they can't
even muster enough to say, hey,
you know, that's kind of a
problem. Let's let's get some
experts in who know about this.
And that used to happen.
John C Dvorak: Actually, that's
a good point. Besides, I mean, I
agree. Obviously, the show is
about that in some ways, that
the mainstream media is
dropping, they're not dropping
the ball, but they're they're
subversive in the normal in a
normal process, a movie like
this would come out. And you're
right the main show CNN or MSNBC
would bring someone on to talk
about about the problem. Yes.
Yes, that's exactly what would
happen.
Adam Curry: What a crazy idea.
But no, because a couple things
one, this this movie did not
follow the traditional Hollywood
model of paying off, you know,
premiums and junkets and
everything. Hang for the news
media. I
John C Dvorak: think that's
really the crux of it.
Adam Curry: Of course it's it
must be a part of it. There's no
advertising on the main there's
John C Dvorak: nothing on
Entertainment Tonight. Doo doo
doo doo doo doo. There's nothing
extra
Adam Curry: in addition. I mean,
it's crazy that these Q anon
people are driving people to
theaters to see this Q anon
adjacent stupid movie while
there's a perfectly good AI
movie about the danger of AI our
main story from Tom Cruise
Mission Impossible. And Indiana
Jones How can this not be the
blockbuster? This is wrong Q
anon Trump. I mean, it's that's
really how these people think
they're sick. As Voltaire said
they are sick as Voltaire said
they're
John C Dvorak: misled they're
they're I don't know what they
they're they're adult. Put my
finger on
Adam Curry: remember those who
can who can make you believe
absurdities can make you commit
atrocities. That's what these
people are. They will make you
believe that this is a q anon
movie that makes you wonder if
they actually saw it
John C Dvorak: at all. They
didn't obviously see it. Well, I
think
Adam Curry: they did. And I
think they sit in the theater,
and they go, this is done by Q
anon people. They're insinuating
things that just aren't true.
There's no such thing as Audrina
Chrome, which I'm still pretty
sketchy on, by the way.
John C Dvorak: Everybody is
Adam Curry: no no this funny,
John C Dvorak: it's a punch line
is what it is. It's not really
things to take serious. That's
how
Adam Curry: we use it,
obviously.
John C Dvorak: It's like John
Stuart, and I think this punch
line should be brought back.
John Stuart, when he was running
the Daily Show, he would go on
and on about some operation of
these and he'd always end it
with a punch line, otherwise
known as Nambla. Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, no, it's real.
But it's but Nambla is real.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but Nambla
has been out of the picture with
all this trans stuff and
everything you think Nambla
would be brought back into play?
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no. Now
since you brought us here we got
a phenomenal email which I want
to share boots on the ground.
And I have I have a couple of
clips to go along with this.
Because this does play into what
the mainstream is really up to.
Don't look at child sex
trafficking don't look at any of
that. But let's let's make sure
we let's make sure we don't
offend anybody. Here's a very,
very offensive bid on CNN.
Unknown: They're not gonna serve
it because they don't like the
way Dylan Mulvaney was treated
after this whole controversy
started he courses the
transgender person they were
going to sponsor and go along
with with Bud Light they didn't
like how Bud Light didn't stand
by him after all this
Adam Curry: now did you catch
the problem in this CNN clip?
But again, okay, they're
John C Dvorak: prompted me to
look for a problem.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. So this
is they're talking about of
course Budweiser is a sponsor
there's a real problem Budweiser
is going out of the Budweiser
Bud Light brand has very big
financial troubles perhaps much
more of and Anheuser Busch and
CNN is discussing this and they
of course defending that they're
they're defending the brand
they're there their money
masters and they're they're
saying hey, you know this people
were pissed off about dilla
Mulvaney you're not
Unknown: gonna serve it because
they don't like the way Delvin
Mulvaney was treated after this
whole controversy started he
courses the transgender person
they were going to sponsor and
go along with Bud Light they
didn't like how Bud Light didn't
stand by him after all this
Adam Curry: now did you find the
the problem? Yeah, the him Yes,
of course. It's misgendering
John C Dvorak: Hello
misgendered.
Unknown: Want to make an
important note yesterday in a
segment about transgender
influencer, Dylan Mulvaney who
was featured in Bud Lights
recent campaign, she was
mistakenly referred to by the
wrong pronoun and
be quiet you're Misha, stepping
on all the good stuff.
She was mistakenly referred to
by the wrong pronoun. And CNN
aims to honor individuals ways
of identifying themselves and we
apologize for that error.
Yes, we apologize. Error.
John C Dvorak: I thought that
Dylan Mulvaney was they them?
Adam Curry: No no, no, no, no
Dylan Mulvaney. Okay, so I have
learned a lot in the past few
days. And that what I will not
discuss here is the movie what
is a woman? It's a short
documentary, but half an hour is
not the Matt Walsh documentary.
It is what is a woman comma,
wrong answers only. And from
this you will learn that really
this is the biggest misogynistic
movement ever witnessed in
history.
John C Dvorak: But we've been
saying that in the show.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but This
really makes it come come all it
brings it home particularly
people like Rachel Levine. This
starts with with young men who
are who are missing a lot of
things in their life. And let's
face it, what men find
attractive in women is a lot of
stuff men have made up you know,
the the clothes that that men
perceive women to be sexy and
the lipstick, I mean, the high
heels all of this is pretty much
invented by men. So the ultimate
the ultimate turn on at some
point for many men, young men in
particular, but a lot of older
men as well. Is to become a
woman to be that sexy woman.
It's weird to wrap your head
around, but we
John C Dvorak: gotta there is a
there is a perversion. Yes.
Where you are certain men get
excited by dressing as women. A
lot
Adam Curry: of men, John, not
just certain, a lot. Yes, yes,
yes, you have, I don't
John C Dvorak: know one of them.
And I know more than 10
Adam Curry: Please watch that
documentary. And I'm going to
play I'm going to read this
email them play two clips that
kind of play into it, how the
system works. Because the
Internet is a is a very big part
of this and Big Pharma medical
community. So this is one of our
producers. Anonymous, writes in
you received this well, then a
very, I think, beautiful email.
Thank you for writing this. I'm
a 25 year old trans woman, male
to female currently living in
Portland, Oregon. I'd like to
share information that you and
John will hopefully find
insightful. I started
transitioning three years ago
after life of depression and
self exploration. I knew when I
was around the age of 12, but it
felt that coming out would ruin
my chances that living a normal
life I have by no means been
brainwashed by what has been and
is currently happening. I have
always been crawling the net and
have been interested in
computers for most of my life.
So I found out about early forms
of sissy Hypno. We talked about
this. This is the online porn,
that it's kind of an
overreaching category, but it's
everywhere. And it is about
force feminization men becoming
women in pornographic settings
and learned about early forms of
sissy Hypno from being in trans
spaces all the way back to 2013.
I'm happy you've been covering
it on the show because it's a
major problem now. So this is an
important this is coming from
someone who who has gone through
some of this but but is worried
about what's happening now. Born
out of the depths of fetishes
like femdom Female domination
over a man and forced
feminization, a woman making a
man wear makeup and women's
clothing by the way, go on
PornHub this 15 of these
categories about just this.
Sissy has turned into a new age
and destructive rebirth of the
term crossdresser. Remember that
John crossdresser there was that
a lot of men were cross dressing
back in the day. The porn has
had many more than you think.
Obviously, the porn has
permeated parts of Reddit and
all the major porn sites tick
tock has a huge role in this
because a lot of tick tock
inspired Hypno videos have
started to sweep the main sites
that hosts this type of content.
The main one I followed is Hypno
tube.com. Don't go look at that.
Created by a trans woman who
goes by Mia Electra. Her and the
people adjacent to her circles
are trying to cover all the
bases by having marketed online
storefronts like Hypno femme dot
club, even creating fake fantasy
pages like Hypno university.net
Go look at that one. The thing
that I'd really like to drive
home is the discord Twitch,
anime, YouTube and gaming
culture all collide with this.
Discord is full of groomers
soliciting nude sending hormones
to minors through the mail.
Twitch is full of degenerates
who play games for 12 hours a
day that are slowly taking the
roles of friends and parental
figures to their viewers as a
parasocial relationship. A lot
of animators porn adjacent
YouTube is the new TV for Gen Z,
acting as a hub that links to
games that link to discord
servers to link to Twitch
streamers that lead to being
involved in ridiculous Internet
communities and example,
Finster, a British Twitch
streamer that start out playing
Minecraft and now has gained
massive popularity for losing a
bet to a friend where he had to
jokingly dress up as a girl on
Go on. Omegle I don't know what
that is in 2018. He has now
continued to be a girl for five
years because of the money and
notoriety he started receiving
and has recently created an only
fans where he labels himself as
a fanboy like the dealer
Mulvaney. Like I'm a failed
actor, but if I pretend to be a
girl, I'm famous. I'm making
millions of dollars. Yeah, these
are the influences that are
John C Dvorak: way you would do
that can make sense?
Adam Curry: Yes, but these are
the influences that are weighing
on young Kids now it makes all
of this seem very normal. Yes,
I've been watching this slowly
happen my whole life. Young men
like my past self and friends
around me being raised on a
steady diet of video games,
porn, fast food, no real purpose
in life, no father figures or
any hope for the future gives
you exactly what you're seeing.
I hope this sheds more light on
the topic from an insider's
perspective, I will continue to
be a mole in plain sight for all
the days and nights. So this
story really made me understand
what is happening. And this is
from male to female, the girls
have a different story. But here
now we have the witch trials of
JK Rowling, which is a very
interesting podcast. JK Rowling,
of course, the Harry Potter
author, who was very much
against the trans Maoist culture
and movement. And this broadcast
condemned
John C Dvorak: by by this
podcast by a lot of people.
Yeah. As a horrible turf.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So when you
have this going on, on the
internet, parental type figures
who are very popular on Twitch
and they're normalizing it, no,
it's great. You have dinner
Mulvaney. It's great to be a
girl and I can be so successful,
I finally feel my feel like
myself. You see people who are
looking to be loved,
particularly young children. And
now all of a sudden, if I do
this, I'm like this I can be
loved. And it plays into an
already existing fetish, which I
guess is just inside a lot of
men. Anyway, this is the story
of Noah who became Natalie and I
pulled to Eclipse at 14 Noah was
not feeling very good in Noah
skin, because that's what
happens when you're 14. It is I
went through
John C Dvorak: your 14 year and
if you're a do it your gaki
during dream
Adam Curry: you don't you're not
right in your skin, you know,
you might be get pestered for
how you look or whatever's going
on. And this is when of course
you need parents and parental
figures the most. But the
internet was there to take no a
down a different path. And it
started with an unlikely
website.
Unknown: And then when I was in
middle school, I started
discovering portions of the
Internet where people would talk
about queer identity issues.
Adam Curry: Notice queer
identity issues. Okay, so this
is, these are the creeps out
there pushing the queer
ideology.
Unknown: What specifically were
you looking at
my sort of gateway with
BuzzFeed, because they have a
ton of viral content did
BuzzFeed. When I was four, I
just thought I was like any
other boy. As I grew older, I
started realizing I was
different. Jamie Dodger, whose
video it was titled dear
BuzzFeed, or something similar,
I tried to fit in his female
during my early teens, I could
never find clothes I liked quite
uncomfortable with anything I
wore and disliked my hair being
long. I must have watched that
20 times. From BuzzFeed, I
started doing my own research.
When I was 11. I used to just
read 11 B watch videos, over and
over of trans men documenting
their journeys online. And even
before I understood why I was
fascinated with that content,
that's just all I would do is
just rewatch videos like that.
But none of it was you should be
trans. It was just this is my
journey. This is what I just I
want to tell the world about my
journey and about the community
at large.
Today, I'm going to be going
over my one month, post up top
surgery, kind of a general
overview.
And I took all of that
information in and I came to the
conclusion I should allow myself
to explore who I am and try and
use that as an avenue to find
happiness. And something that
had a really, really significant
impact on me was people who
portrayed a trans body in
whatever forms that came in as
beautiful or normal, which
taught me that there was hope
for me to be happy, and that I
can allow myself to feel joy or
find some joy in how I look.
Adam Curry: This is so
understandable. You could you
could if it was be a giraffe
videos, it might have met or be
a furry or whatever, that when
you are an unhappy child and you
don't have your parents or not,
you know you don't have parents
or you're missing a father
figure in this case or whatever
it is that you're you're allowed
to be on screens all day long.
Your parents don't understand
it. And then you have parental
type figures coming in and
saying hey, I was like you and
now I feel good. Look at me and
I'm beautiful and and you get
comments like slay queen. No
wonder these 11 year old child
is going to be very susceptible
to that. Enter the medical
community. Because was this
child really confused about his
gender? Or was it perhaps some
other things going on? And how
did the medical and
pharmaceutical community play
into it?
Unknown: And were you seeing a
therapist or a counselor at that
time, like when all of this
started,
I had a lot of mental issues.
Maybe that's not the most
elegant way to say that, but I
was dealing with a lot of mental
struggles. Once puberty began,
you mean aside from your issues
with gender? Yeah, and I
couldn't really identify that I
had issues with gender. I just
had all of these abstract
feelings that didn't coalesced
into gender dysphoria until I
understood what that term meant
fully, which was later on in my
life. And so I was dealing with
very severe anxiety disorder,
depressive disorder, obsessive
compulsive disorder, and
attention deficit hyperactive
disorder. And so my mom got me a
therapist, who I've been with
ever since. And when she picked
out that therapist, she picked
out someone who specialized in
anxiety and gender issues and
adolescence, which I find
interesting to look back on. And
I had a psychiatrist as well.
And around eighth grade, I went
into this really severe
depressive episode. And I ended
up telling my psychiatrist that
I was debating suicide. And so
everyone decided we were going
to have to, like keep an eye on
me. And so I just kept going to
therapy. And like I said, the
core issue, which we couldn't
figure out what's never
resolved,
Adam Curry: do you see what is
happening here? Here's a child
who was being diagnosed with
anything but gender dysphoria,
but get him the right thing, a
therapist, you should be a girl,
that's, that'll make you happy.
Unknown: And I believe, within a
year,
John C Dvorak: it's an
industrial complex.
Adam Curry: It is a total
industrial complex, and it has a
revenue model. There's, there's
no that's the key. Yes, there's,
there's websites that that
charge money. There's only fans,
there's products, lots and lots
of there's masks, there's full
body suits, as all this is an
entire industry that is being
created in the media, the same
people who are not interested in
child sex trafficking. They're
promoting this.
Unknown: And I believe, within a
year, I joined a support group
for transgender youth. And my
therapist helped me identify
that a lot of what I had been
expressing to her for a really
long time, could be identified
as feelings of gender dysphoria.
And after at least a year and a
half or two years of those
issues being present, she
referred me to a gender
clinician, and talking to my
parents was the first big step
that was taken. We identified
what I wanted from the gender
clinic, which was to go on
testosterone and to get top
surgery. But that couldn't
happen partially because I was
too young, I believe the limit
was 16 for surgery, and they
just weren't comfortable at 14.
So
Adam Curry: I don't even know if
this is a boy or a girl. I'm so
confused about this story. A my
Unknown: our tasks that we got
was for me to discuss my gender
with my parents. And so once or
twice a week for a long time, at
least a year, my parents would
sit down with me and he would
have a long talk about how I was
feeling because it had to become
very clear that not only was my
gender dysphoria, spawning all
of the other mental issues I was
having, but
Adam Curry: Okay, now we get to
the crux of it. All these other
issues you had is because you
have gender dysphoria, man you
can you can convince people to
shock somebody, you've seen the
shock the shock experiment,
though don't worry, it's fine.
And people just shock someone
shock someone keeps giving a
good job and more jobs you can
commit this is MK Ultra at mass
scale
Unknown: that this solution was
medical intervention and that
was seemingly the only thing
that could help me because we
had tried pretty much every
other option at that point.
Adam Curry: It's this is a very
very very troubling time wherein
what is happening here is the
medical industry is playing into
this for money. There's all of
these websites it's the Internet
has screwed up a lot. This is
bigger than I thought it was.
John C Dvorak: And the media is
it should have been shut down
years ago I've always said that.
It internet is the problem it
Adam Curry: is it is a we we
still have tail bones with
there's no reason we should be
able to handle this and we can't
and so when you see a parent
with a kid in the stroller or on
a screen, you know that that's
probably not going to end well
because there's a lot of ghouls
out there just waiting to pick
this kid up for something.
Whatever whatever their agenda
is, and I think that we are in a
mas MK Ultra state and Kamala
Harris is probably a victim with
her crazy laugh
John C Dvorak: so the rumor is
now according to some people
that it was her quote, it was
her coke Yeah. Now, since you
brought this up this is kind of
a universal problem is showing
up elsewhere but in different
ways and not quite the way is
showing up here but there's
something going on as an
undercurrent and of course the
only commonality here again is
the internet. And in this case,
I'm referring to the for no use
movement in China.
Adam Curry: I'm not familiar
with this.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's it's
something I wasn't familiar with
either. For no no dating no
marriage no children no home.
That's the fourth floor notice
the four Wow, it's a bunch of a
bunch of Chinese as JC I think
correctly asserted these are
Chinese in sells, okay. And
insulting has to be part of this
insult into this giant problem.
But But in China, and there's a
there's a there's a very good
YouTube video on this and you
just go to wheelchairs in China.
And it's like the top video they
show because in one of the
provinces, they've banned
electric bikes, and just pretty
much electric anything to
scooters are illegal, and they
find you a lot of money for if
you're driving around is they
want you to be in cars, or
walking. But it turns out,
there's a loophole, you can go
around in a high speed
wheelchair. And so now there's
1000s of kids in wheelchairs,
driving around the cities of
these areas to go to work and
because their wheelchair is some
of these wheelchairs have a
pretty decent speed and have a
range of about 25 kilometers.
So, so this wheelchair story and
Adam Curry: other and they're
also certified by the FAA to fly
I think
John C Dvorak: this story
morphed into a little discussion
of the no for no use. But this
is the clip is for no use and
wheelchairs.
Unknown: Think about it. If
everyone chooses to travel by
electric wheelchair. It's not
the young people who are sick,
but the whole society is sick,
and won't it be a sad thing for
society. Indeed, this is a
helpless choice for young people
in China. in Guangzhou, for
example, a document has been
circulating online entitled, The
current phenomena affordable
youth in our city has risen and
it's recommended the multiple
measures be taken to strengthen
the construction of youth
development oriented city. The
document was allegedly issued by
the Guangzhou municipal
Committee of the Communist Youth
League of the CCP. The document
claimed following involution and
life flat and other phrases that
describe the frustration of
youth due to a variety of social
pressures and the emergence of a
culture of emotional psychology
and behavioral styles. The topic
of for no youth is gradually
spreading online as become the
new buzzword that is no dating
no marriage, no home no
children. The phrase for no
youth gradually spread online
and became a new buzzword. The
Guangzhou municipal Committee of
the Communist Youth League
carried out a special survey on
the development of youth in
Guangzhou and recovered 15,501
valid questionnaires. Among them
more than 1200 were college
students and working youths who
conform to the characteristics
of the four no
Adam Curry: AI is going to kill
this show. I'll tell you that
right now.
John C Dvorak: What's the guy's
actually credited as a voiceover
and I've heard that voice in
China real dude, huh? Yeah, I
think so.
Adam Curry: What what are those
four knows again?
Unknown: No dating no dating?
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: No children no
home? No marriage. Okay.
Adam Curry: Sounds like fun.
John C Dvorak: Sounds like fun.
They also a part of this in this
in the life flats and there was
some other thing which is
another kind of a youth movement
that was going
Adam Curry: yeah, these are all
youth movements by children who
have really been abused by
neglect. Neglect,
John C Dvorak: you know when I
was a kid, yes. We besides the
fact that we had long recesses
and in a lot of sports and a lot
of PE whether you liked it or
not
Adam Curry: forced forced fit
we've
John C Dvorak: had we had a
community center where there
were dances like all generals
every Friday and Saturday
dancers Yeah, like there's no
dances anymore. They used to be
sock hops at the in the gym at
least once every month or every,
every couple weeks. Dance
classes. Everyone would go to
dance class when I was in fifth
grade. They taught us all the
dances cha cha cha Mambo, you
name it.
Adam Curry: I'll bet you can cut
a rug John C. Dvorak.
John C Dvorak: Give me some
scissors I can. So there are all
these activities to keep kids
busy and socializing. I don't
know that they exist anymore. In
fact, this little middle school
over here where they had a giant
playground the playground has
been turned into a parking lot.
And there's still a baseball
field out Well, what happened to
the basketball? We had
Adam Curry: Boy Scouts and Girl
Scouts and they were separate
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I had Boy
Yeah, I was in the boy scouts
and there was also the Cub
Scouts sees something the girls
had I wasn't like for brownies
brownies brownies brown brownies
we had wide Dave Dave destroyed
those by you know claiming I've
never I was in the boy scouts
for quite a while I never had
ran to a pedophile would have
known him I guess if I had but
there was things to do. And
there was a lots of lots of
events that were oriented for
kids it was for the kids the
dances at the at the community
center ward for adults we all
was a bunch of teenage we also I
was one of the record spinner we
Adam Curry: went out and we had
rock fights we throw rocks until
someone got hit in the head and
like oh crap the guys bleeding
alright and of rock fight. We
hit a ball around yeah, now let
me hit my clip to hear of this
no for no youth.
Unknown: The document emphasizes
that the four no phenomena
should be transformed into four
wants ie want to date want to
get married, want to buy a home
and want to have children. These
four noes are also known as the
four emptiness is on the Chinese
internet. The four emptiness is
was originally a term from
ancient cultivation culture in
China, referring to the need to
eliminate the four attachments
to fame, profit, anger and lust.
Usually it is a term to describe
the life and mental state of
monks and nuns in temples.
Nowadays, young Chinese people
whether you like it or not have
chosen to move closer to the
state of the for emptiness is
according to the current trend.
Young people don't need to buy
cars and electric bicycles.
Instead, they can just buy
electric wheelchairs. The future
looks great for young people who
get into wheelchairs in advance.
To borrow the title of a Chinese
media report young people
driving electric wheelchairs now
is to save them 30 years of
detours. The CCP may not have
imagined that such a bizarre
scenario would happen under its
rule.
Adam Curry: I don't care what
you say that's an AI voice that
guy is that's not a real guy
that maybe his voice may be
sampled or something but that's
John C Dvorak: yeah, what is a
voice and others that's report
Adam Curry: so so we have all of
these behavioral issues
including a generation which is
very egotistic egotistical. The
only think of themselves even
our girls who are kind of you
know, they're not Zers but some
of them are close. You know,
they missed what
John C Dvorak: they said they're
not what
Adam Curry: Gen Z ears. They're
closed. Okay, yeah. Zers Zoomer?
Yeah, does Zoomers but here in
the United States we may not
have the four noes yet but we
have something new
Unknown: loud quitting. That's
the trend now working overtime,
with employees becoming
ultimately unhappy on the job.
And Alexis christoforous is here
with the details. Good morning
again, Alexis.
Good morning and God forget
about quiet quitting. Now
frustrated employees are loud
quitting instead of just doing
the bare minimum and silently
checking out of their jobs loud
quitters are actively disengaged
in the workplace, and they're
not afraid to show it. A new
Gallup Poll finds about one in
five workers are loudly tossing
in the towel and it goes beyond
being unhappy on the job. It's
about being stressed out and fed
up. Loud. quitters are resentful
that their needs aren't being
met and they're acting out doing
things like sending disruptive
emails making inappropriate
outbursts at work, undermining
their company's goals and bad
mouthing their boss on social
media. The poll finds loud
quitting is not something
management can afford to ignore.
disengaged workers can be bad
for company morale, and cost the
global economy $8.8 trillion
employees revealing they value
talking openly with their
manager having more control over
their daily responsibilities and
having a fair shot at being
promoted. Experts say leaders
should check in with employees
regularly help them find purpose
in their work and make them feel
valued and connected to their
team. As for workers, experts
say before you loud or quiet
quit, take a beat, decide what
you really want from that next
opportunity and make sure you're
running towards the next job
instead of running away from the
current one.
Adam Curry: This is a broken
generation.
John C Dvorak: There are a lot
of tick tock videos of these
have These loud quitters. Yeah.
I'm sorry, I
Adam Curry: didn't need to bring
them.
John C Dvorak: I think I did a
couple of shows back but the
I'll get some more of them. I
don't understand it. It's like
mostly women. And they come and
they scream and moan and groan
about they're coming and they're
making a big fuss on Twitter I'm
sorry on Tik Tok. And it's like,
what are you? Why are you doing
this? I mean, what is the point?
What are you trying to
accomplish? What does this prove
Adam Curry: this? This can only
be children who live with their
parents, or their parents are
backstopping, because that's
another thing that my generation
is doing a very poor job of,
Hey, sit on it. Remember, I used
to was that a 50s thing? Sit on
it, sit on it, Fonzie. You, you
you created this, you figure it
out, it's your problem. I'm not
gonna I'm not going to help you
out. I'm not going to pay your
rent. I'm not going to while you
figure out your life of being a
douche at work, our fault, our
fault. And then let's just add,
you know, we already know all
the drugs, all the drugs that
the kids are on, they're all on
it. Because Oh, whoa, the
science says ADHD add
depression. And now let's just
add the food. And we have been
tracking on this show one
ingredient in food for many
years. It goes back to when the
CEO of the company that made the
product at the time entered
government and the the product
had been rejected by the Food
and Drug Administration time
after time after time. But once
that CEO Donald Rumsfeld got
into government, the aspartame
was approved. And we've we have
discussed the the drawbacks of
aspartame on on no agenda for
years. In fact, we got tired of
it after a while Hey, you don't
drink your aspartame. And so now
now we have
John C Dvorak: we burned that
one out like a decade ago I
Adam Curry: was so tired of
talking about it. Like yeah,
it's cancers What does a lung
Rumsfeld love? Blah blah lots of
other things a lot of other
things that aspartame can do to
you and it probably doing a lot
to kids brains. But anyway, it's
hot in the news today. So let's
run the stories tonight
Unknown: the World Health
Organization just out with a new
report involving the popular
artificial sweetener aspartame
found in Diet Coke other diet
drinks.
Adam Curry: What is popular? Is
there anyone who's like oh, it
has aspartame. I'm gonna have
this drink because I like
aspartame. Is that what it means
to be popular? What do you
think?
John C Dvorak: I think that's a
he's using the word popular
correctly, in that it's used a
lot.
Unknown: Okay, you're aspartame
found in Diet Coke, other diet
drinks, gum and other products.
Late today, the World Health
Organization's International
Agency for Cancer Research
classifying aspartame as a
possible carcinogen possible.
It's saying evidence is limited
and more research is needed.
After reviewing the data the FDA
in this country saying it
disagrees, insisting FDA
scientists do not have safety
concerns. It's safe and
effective. There is some concern
that all this data could confuse
consumers so of course we'll
stay on it. Medical experts do
agree on one thing and that is
more study is needed.
Adam Curry: This is the this is
the interesting commonality. It
may confuse consumers. So that's
what the news is telling us.
This may confuse consumer FDA,
you know this World Health
Organization. You're confusing
consumers, not people who want
to know about their health
consumers. Don't confuse
consumers. We need them to
consume our product. Let's bring
in Dr. Jenn Ashton.
Unknown: Okay, we are back now
with our GMA cover story and a
new report about the popular
artificial popular
Adam Curry: there it is. It's
popular. They're reading from a
press release
Unknown: sweetener, aspartame,
and cancer risk. Our CHIEF
MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT Dr.
Jennifer Ashton,
Adam Curry: I'd love to be a
CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT
doesn't our chief podcast
correspondent that makes it
sound like such like She's real.
Oh, yeah, she's she's probably
official. She may have a
uniform. She's actually come to
work in a uniform
Unknown: cancer risk. Our CHIEF
MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT Dr.
Jennifer Ashton is here with a
reality check. Great to see you.
This is getting so much
attention especially from diet
soda drinkers. Can you break
this down for us? So
as you mentioned aspartame, it's
been around since the 1980s.
It's in diet soda beverages,
chewing gum, it's in a lot of
things as an artificial
sweetener. The bottom line based
on this newly reported study
that came out yesterday from the
World Health Organization for
the average person consuming an
average amount of this
ingredient. Nothing needs to
change but take a look at this
list because there are numerous
or professional organizations
that have we Get in on this some
finding different you know
bottom lines than others. The
eye the eye aarC which is the
research arm of the World Health
Organization saying it might be
a possible carcinogen causing
cancer that's their second
lowest by the way of
designations,
Adam Curry: by the way, that's
their second lowest. I mean,
it's just like climate change
possibly could be might be, you
know, it could kind of happen,
but it's low. I hope it doesn't
confuse consumers, the FDA
Unknown: saying they do not have
safety concerns, the World
Health Organization saying it's
safe. So they all kind of need
to get on the same page. There's
a lot of controversy there.
There's a lot of qualifying
remarks may be potential
possibility needs more research
will continue to be monitored.
But for right now, nothing needs
to change unless you are
consuming massive, how much what
are we talking about? Well, what
they said is they they're giving
a dose and a calculation kind of
for the average risk for the
average weight person. 40
milligrams per kilogram of body
weight per day. What does that
translate into nine to 14 cans
of 12 ounce cans of soda for the
average size adult weighing 140
pounds, you guys, that's a lot.
That's a lot of soda. And that's
a lot of aspartame. But it comes
down to this basic premise,
premise and principle in
toxicology, which is dose and
frequency. Anything can be toxic
if you take it enough in a
higher dose.
Adam Curry: Oh, thanks, Dr. Jen.
I feel so much better about
giving my child aspartame, by
the way, nine cans of soda a
day. I think there's a lot of
people who drink that much. But
that's not the definitive
number. CNN has different data
Unknown: World Health
Organization has determined that
one of the most commonly used
artificial sweeteners aspartame
should be put in what it
describes as the quote, possibly
carcinogenic to humans category.
Aspartame is of course found in
many products ranging from sugar
free gum to diet sodas, can of
diet soda can typically have
about 100 milligrams of aspirin.
There we go. Can diet soda of
aspartame, and under the WHO
guidelines, someone weighing 184
pounds could safely drink up to
33 cans of diet soda a day
before breaking the threshold?
Like a bad idea. A lot you can
count on. So CNN MEDICAL
CORRESPONDENT Meg Terrell is
going to tell us should you be
drinking? Can we have a reality
check here? Do you realize how
much would be necessary to hit
the threshold? Do people need to
be changing?
Adam Curry: Listen people the
sponsors of called we need to
attack this head on we need to
tell everybody that unless
you're a crazy person and
drinking so much of this stuff,
you have nothing to worry about
Unknown: how much aspartame
they're consuming based on what
was released yesterday. Yeah,
but
also not based on this that is
from the WHO itself actually.
And so aspartame Of course, we
know very common sweetener used
in 1000s of different products
from diet sodas, like the 33 You
just saw on the screen. Things
like tabletop sweeteners,
breakfast cereal, chewing gum,
even, you know medicines, like
cough drops or chewable
vitamins, things and so the who
took a look at this this has
been a decade's long sort of
project that's
Adam Curry: looking Why is she
laughing?
Unknown: Who took a look at
this. This has been a decade's
long sort of project that
scientists have been looking at.
And what Dr. Francesco Branca
the Director of the Department
of Nutrition and Food Safety at
the who said about this review
is that quote, while safety is
not a major concern at the doses
which are commonly used,
potential effects have been
described that need to be
investigated by more and better
studies.
Adam Curry: This is, I mean,
we've heard a lot of these types
of scare stories that are meant
to you know, get you off of eggs
because they want you eating
something else to get you off of
beef because the chicken
industry wants to eat chicken.
This is new. This is a clearly
not a good product. But you know
only if you drink a lot of it
only if you consume a lot. Is it
cumulative. If you take the
cough drops and the vitamins and
the Coca Cola and the toothpaste
and everything. It doesn't add
up. I mean, I haven't Dr. Jen
didn't tell me about that. These
people are ghouls, groups,
ghouls. And then if that was a
theme for today's show, if that
wasn't crazy enough, they now
we're marketing a product
developed in 1966 in Germany,
and we're just slapping a new
name on it which generic as far
as I know. And it's the biggest
news ever.
Unknown: FDA scientists do not
have safety concerns. There is
some concern that all of this
data could confuse consumers so
of course we'll stay on it.
Medical experts do agree on one
thing and that is more study is
needed. That major change here
in the US and reproductive
health care affecting millions
of women in this country. The
FDA approving Oh pill the first
over the counter birth control
pill. It will likely be
available in drugstores
convenience stores online
without a doctor's prescription
early next Hear that decision
significantly expanding access
to birth control for women of
all ages and comes amid heated
debate about the availability of
contraception and abortion
rights following the Supreme
Court's ruling overturning roe
Adam Curry: So you heard how
they went from one into the
other. This is nor gestural or
nor gestural however you
pronounce it, developed in 1966
has been approved in the United
States for years and years and
years. Now of course it's I
guess the birth control pill
used to be something that was
prescribed by your doctor in
consultation with your parents
and you know, like I think
little Tammy should be on the
pill. Well yes, she was going
off to college and going into
high school you know, never know
what could happen. So now it's
just yeah, just over the
counter, but their marketing is
something completely new FDA
approved when the
Unknown: pill called Oh pill
hits drugstore shelves, women
will be able to access hormonal
contraception without needing to
visit a doctor for prescription.
The FDA approval comes amid
renewed legal fights over
women's reproductive rights,
specifically the agency's
authority to approve the common
medication abortion pill myth,
infant Bristow NBC News
correspondent Ann Thompson has
more on this news of the over
the counter pill and and and I
got to ask first one pill does
not fit all women hear so this
is one pill. How soon before you
know because different
Adam Curry: he's you think he's
reading a script? One pill it's
one pill is one pill. It's just
one pill. One pill.
Unknown: Different pills work
better for different for women,
depending? When will we start to
see a variety of this on the
shelves? If
that's what advocates hope that
we will see eventually this is
just the first contraceptive
that we will see on an over the
counter basis, Chuck. But the
key here is really the issue
driving this is all about
access. And the belief is the
this pill called Oh pill which
is a mini pill it's just one
project. It is will it is
approved for women of all
reproductive ages that includes
teenagers. And the hope is is
that this will help reduce the
number of unintended pregnancies
in this country. There are 6.1
million pregnancies every year
in this country, about half of
them are unintended. And the
belief is now that you can go to
the you will be able to go to
the drugstore or the grocery
store or order these pills
online online and help reduce
that number that should happen
at the beginning of next year.
But the big question tonight is
how much will these pills costs
and the manufacturer has not put
a price on it only to say that
they will be affordable.
Adam Curry: This is really
menopausal hormone therapy by
the way. I love how they go so
deep into aspartame. But you
know is this okay? Is this is
this okay? For teenagers? Um,
you combine a keyboard one pill
to mini pill?
John C Dvorak: That must be it
must be good. I
Adam Curry: mean, does it work?
Could it have any long term
effects?
John C Dvorak: But then they
bring an expert on No, no. No
extra no expert knew what you
played was a native ad.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Of
course.
John C Dvorak: Want to get back
to the nutty teen problem? Okay,
they have more.
Adam Curry: This is part of it.
I mean, it's not like that by
the way. You have a buzz today
for some not not like a buzz
like you're buzzing my homeless.
I mean, let me listen to you.
You have a like a ground loop or
something's I can hear it
changed nothing. No, sorry.
Well, the
John C Dvorak: thing could be
something laying on top of
something that always happens I
don't have enough those magnets.
Adam Curry: Wow, it's not now
that I can hear it is really
bad. Is there something there
must be you must be something
laying on top of something. You
got to
Unknown: move things around. Oh,
stop.
Adam Curry: It just went away.
What did you move?
John C Dvorak: A power supply?
No way.
Adam Curry: Did you have it
wrapped around the mic or
John C Dvorak: something? No,
it's next to one of the filters.
Adam Curry: Thank you. It's
gone. It's gone.
Unknown: That was a good one.
John C Dvorak: So and I was
gonna put this earlier because I
because it actually applies to
it. And I was gonna add Mimi's
listening to the show
specifically for this
presentation.
Adam Curry: Oh, it doesn't come
from our favorite source. You
got it. Tick tock tock tick
tock.
John C Dvorak: But I don't know
what order to play me I was
thinking about I'm gonna play it
in the worst order. Now there
was I'm gonna play the best one
first. Because that's the one
that triggered the whole the
other the collection of the
other clips.
Adam Curry: Okay, I've seen
this. I'm very happy. You
brought this to the show today.
John C Dvorak: And it has to do
with it's a new term called time
blind. Yes. And the worst case
example is this. Just I'm
guessing she's a younger
millennial. And she's bitching
about the fact that everyone
should change their way of life
for her which is very common on
tick tock. And this is the Tick
Tock time blind, just a straight
up clip.
Unknown: So I just got yelled
out for asking a very reasonable
question. So I'm flying to go
somewhere. And I just wanted to
know, are there accommodations
for people struggle with time
blindness and being on time, you
know, and then the person I was
with, interrupted and acted
like, I was asking something
else. And then when we were
done, they actually started
yelling at me and saying that
accommodations for time
blindness doesn't exist. And if
you've struggled being on time,
you'll never be able to get a
job, you know, provided you're
trying your absolute best to be
there. And then they're like,
your stupid generation wants to
destroy the workplace. And yeah,
I think that a culture where
workers are just cut off because
they struggle with being on
time, when there's other
solutions that we can look to. I
think that just anybody who
thinks it's okay to just treat
people like that, yeah, that
culture needs to be dismantled.
And then I asked that person how
can you feel good about yourself
upholding this kind of system?
And then to think I'm entitled
know if people think it's okay
to treat others like this?
That's entitlement.
Adam Curry: I watched this clip
I didn't see it on tick tock, of
course, because I refuse. I
watched this three times
thinking, Is this a joke? And I
concluded after three views that
she was serious. Oh, yeah. By
the way, what happened to tick
tock being kicked out of America
How come that hasn't happened?
Hmm.
John C Dvorak: You keep bringing
that up?
Adam Curry: I just want to
remind everybody that was that
was the big news a month ago.
John C Dvorak: It's not even
discuss for some reason. Well,
Adam Curry: no, of course not.
It's great.
John C Dvorak: So this woman
who's who talk about a
privileged jerk really thinks
that everyone should cuz she
can't be on time. Well, why Why
can't she be accommodated She's
Adam Curry: a victim John, she
has a she's neurodivergent
John C Dvorak: now Mimi can
never be on time. But you have
what we do is we trick her and
make her
Adam Curry: 30 minutes earlier.
John C Dvorak: We do all those
sorts of things. And when she
really has to be on time, she is
on time. But that brings us to
the people who are discussing
times blindness.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I need to
stop for a second it only
because you brought up Mimi and
I know she's listening. I was
not aware that she is time
blind. was not aware that you
know, y'all trick her into
coming on time come to being
places on time. Because when
Mimi wants something from me on
time, she's a Nazi. She will She
will. She will send me emails
nag nag subject nag nag nag nag.
Yeah. Wow. And Colonel black.
Wow. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
as it did, on time with
documents to the government is a
little different than showing up
for a play on time when you
missed the first act. So, okay,
let's go to the let's go to the
time blind therapist,
Unknown: oh brother, alright,
tick tock, here
are five signs that you are time
blind. Number one, you are
either way too early or way too
late to something. The idea of
being on time is a completely
foreign concept to you. Number
two, you wildly underestimate
the amount of things you can get
done in a short amount of time,
but you wildly overestimate the
amount of stuff you can get done
in a long amount of time. Number
three, all of your stories start
with the other day. It could
have been yesterday, it could
have been 14 years ago. Doesn't
matter the other day. Number
four, you struggle with
emotional object permanence. If
you're not feeling it right now,
it's hard to tell when you felt
it before and sometimes it just
doesn't feel real at all. And
number five, if you have a
meeting or an appointment at
some point later in the day, you
have trouble starting things
because you don't want to get
sucked into them and
accidentally miss your
appointment. Something you've
learned the hard way, if you
relate to this. Hi, my name is
Megan. I'm a mental wellness
coach and I can't help you
perceive time passing better
because people who are timelines
simply don't perceive the
passage of time the same way
that colorblind people don't
perceive color, but I can help
you find tools to make your life
a lot easier.
Adam Curry: Okay, I've just
changed my name from Adam curry
podcast to Adam curry, mental
wellness coach. This is a new
vocation I want I want to be a
mental wellness coach now, is
this not something that college
is supposed to definitely teach
you how to do before you enter
the workplace, regular school,
how to organize your work, how
to get to get your reports done
on time grammar
John C Dvorak: school, high
school college you don't need if
you haven't learned by then
Adam Curry: well then college
you learn how to get things done
on time and get blindly drunk.
That's that's really cool.
John C Dvorak: There's a
socialization exercise. Okay,
I'll take it. Yeah. Let's go
with the that's a therapist. And
then we have a an ADHD girl who
kind of incorporates time
blindness into her problems,
brother. Okay,
Unknown: let's do an ADHD
experiment. Close your eyes. Now
with your dominant hand point to
the future. Open your eyes and
notice where your hand is
pointing. This is an X This is
created by ADHD author Tom
Harmon. Okay.
Adam Curry: I close my eyes and
I pointed upwards, forward and
upward. That was my future. I
just want everyone to know I did
the experiment and it's used to
point forward. I said, I pointed
up forward and upward.
John C Dvorak: Like, like, I
think you're okay, you're you're
neurotypical,
Adam Curry: are you sure? I'm
worried? Well, I don't know.
Let's find out.
Unknown: Let's find it by ADHD
author Tom Hartman. And it's
used to demonstrate
Adam Curry: I pointed forward 45
degree angle with my hand flat.
Is that okay? with
Unknown: ADHD have a different
experience of time, it's pretty
common for neurotypical people
to point in front of them in
reference to the future, whereas
people with ADHD tend not to do
this. People with ADHD are very
present oriented. And
oftentimes, when we have like
life narratives, they're very
nonlinear because our sense of
time is really nonlinear. And
we're not just talking about
like time on your watch. Like,
it's hard for us to tell how
long 15 minutes is, but also it
can be hard for us to tell if
something happened like weeks
ago, or months ago or years ago,
which can contribute to
difficulties in so many areas of
life, like Miss credit card
payments, staying connected with
friends, and preparing for
future needs. Luckily, there's a
lot we can do for this my
personal favorites that one of
my friends does, she keeps a log
of how long it takes her to do
everything. So she has realistic
time expectations for those
simple tasks.
Adam Curry: I think I know why
this happened. I Do I Do you
have a fourth clip? Or do we
have more?
John C Dvorak: The fourth clips,
the same clip play this the
fourth clip? I think it's the
same clip we just listened to
Unknown: let's do an ADHD
experiment. Because
Adam Curry: here's, here's what
I think is happening.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what is
happening? Because one goes back
again, to me, me and other
people. I've known all my life.
I've known women that can never
be on time.
Adam Curry: Women Women, is this
more women thing than a men
thing? To me it
John C Dvorak: is. And yeah, if
you want to call it misogyny, I
just this observational, okay?
Adam Curry: Well, I can't speak
for me, me, but I think I can
speak for this younger
generation, the minute they gave
up the analog clock, something
that you wear on your wrist
where you can get a feeling by
from time to time glad, you
John C Dvorak: know, this is
genius fan, I'm gonna give you a
points for that points. Start
over because I think this may
have something to do with it.
And I will also incorporate the
fact that they can't write in
longhand, or what they like to
call a cursive. When that's a
continuum. Instead of a black
black black letter letter
letter. It is a continuum, just
like an analog clock when the
analog clock left, so did the
cursive.
Adam Curry: When my grandmother
when I was five, I think four or
five, my grandmother gave me a
Mickey Mouse watch. And I love
it. Because you know, you had
big hand little hand. And I
would wear it all day long. And
you know, my mom would say, you
know, like, you know, be home at
this time used to be when the
street lights were on. Or just
because it's on your wrist. And
you could look at glance at it
like okay, and then you get a
sense over time, you get a sense
of how long 15 minutes is,
because it's always there. When
it's your phone and it's
digital. You just, it's just
numbers, you lose the sense of
the Hour of the circle that
you're completing. It's a
completion of time. And I think
we know that many Zoomers cannot
even tell time from a analog
clock that just not taught
anymore. And I think that is
part of the problem is that
inherent training you receive
and I say training as a kid
wearing a wristwatch just glance
and now you know not everyone
has a has, you know the Apple
Watch or some other version of
it and it's all digital. I mean
yeah, you can you can set them
analog but I must admit most
people don't I'm when I had one
for the short period of time I
had one I had analog. I enjoy
analog. It gives me a what do
you call it sense of time? I
think that's that's where the
problem is. And
John C Dvorak: by the way and
explain to older women that are
Adam Curry: I'm not again, I
can't explain older women and
the only way that
John C Dvorak: phenomenon is
exaggerated currently is like
for doesn't mean you were
Adam Curry: awash in China. And
he says mean you wear a watch.
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
don't think so. Oh, there you
go. Maybe she has Oh, she has a
clock in her on her cell phone
like Oh, everyone they care that
follow around all the time and
you just look at that boom, you
know what time it is
Adam Curry: maybe give her
Mickey Mouse watch to see if
anything changes. She will wear
it so that is probably what's
going on here with these kids.
And it's it's not something you
can just solve, you know,
learning time the completion of
15 minutes an hour, half an
hour. It's something that takes
a little while for you to get
into it. You know, you you get a
sense of oh, that's how many
minutes pass probably 15 Oh,
yeah. 13 Okay, I was close. You
get a sense of that.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, cuz it's
flowing. Yes.
Unknown: Wow.
Adam Curry: I don't know where
to go from here.
John C Dvorak: Well, I would
like to make one more comment
about the for about the kids
here. And they're being
sterilized and the rest of them
into kids in China and elsewhere
there. And in cells and
scientific lack of dances, and
the lack of socialization and
everything else going on. It's
creating a group of people. And
I think the foreign knows are
the best example of no dating no
marriage. That may be you know,
how we talk about how the
Coronavirus was kind of created
in a lab. And then it was okay,
it was created in a lab. And it
would always kind of deteriorate
into back to bowl fashion
coronaviruses you know, just
kind of a common cold stuff. We
were just is it possible to
societies, which are kind of
created, create, create
situations that deteriorate back
into what is more natural, which
is a bunch of narrative? Well,
males hanging out with each
other. I mean, I've known these
guy kind of guys forever. They
don't care about women, and they
don't, you know, chase after him
if they do us for one night
stands mostly that the original
societies may this may be the
reason for kind of planned
marriages where you owe grab
someone, so you have to marry
this person, because you're not
going to do anything anyway,
otherwise. And so all these
arranged marriages historically,
really stemmed back from the
delay the natural laziness of
humans not to even want to
interact much. Hmm. And we're
deteriorating back toward that
very possible. I like that.
We're already deteriorating. I
think we've concluded that on
this show,
Adam Curry: well, you know what
this all leads to this all leads
to universal basic income. It
does. Yeah, it does. It does.
It's already being trialed all
over the world. I think that 30
states in America are already
trialing universal basic income.
Now and then you can just
anybody can be a gig worker
anybody can if you got it you
can get a driver's license you
can be you can drive for Uber
Eats you can drive for Uber not
for Lyft they're almost broke.
Yeah, you can you can drive for
Amazon. It's going right back to
to snow Crusher rating scale and
right back to Snow Crash the
book went out the only thing on
the street is FedEx and Domino's
Pizza delivery. Everyone else
has just in the metaverse
although that didn't pan out it
is deteriorating, but I think
it's there's a it may even be
this is actually a Mo Mo theory.
Most theory is that the elites
of the world who really run the
show they're keeping an eye on
people who are not buying into
it they that's what they really
want they want the survivors
they want the people who are not
going to buy and all the no
John C Dvorak: agenda listener
yes it is the producers are all
survivors.
Adam Curry: That's right. And
with that I'd like to thank you
for your courage to say in the
morning to the man who put the
sea in the sock hops ladies and
gentlemen please say hello to my
friend on the other end the one
and only Mr. Johnson tomorrow
John C Dvorak: morning to you
Mr. Adam curry also in the
morning all ships as he boots on
the ground feet in the air subs
in the water and all the days
tools and
Adam Curry: I think I got them
all 2434
John C Dvorak: almost dead
average.
Adam Curry: Well, we got a note
from Kendall. I know our
John C Dvorak: petrol station,
no agenda statistician and the
no he's actually the no agenda
troll room statistician.
Adam Curry: Yes. And he says
Thursday's average 1876 Sunday's
average 2200. So we're about 150
above average today. Which is
odd because we have below
average donations.
John C Dvorak: We didn't get any
donations. We did get some but
we got no donations. I don't
understand exactly. Why can we
have 1000s I mean, there's more
people in the troll room, not to
mention to 10,000 or 20 or 30 or
50 or 100 or a million people
that listen to this show that
know about it. And we get 19
Total donations over $50 Today
that's ridiculous. No, I'm
sorry. Make it 18 I always
forget the one is a bunch of it
doesn't have anything in it.
Adam Curry: We have a
spreadsheet. According to the
open source op three statistics
run by John Spurlock, which is
part of the podcasting 2.0
Group. 980,000 monthly unique
listeners. And, and I think
that's about right. In the way
we've done now. So we could
actually do if if we had content
that was brand friendly and
brand suitable, we could
actually do okay with
advertising.
John C Dvorak: Oh, I think we do
a better we're doing today. Oh,
yeah,
Adam Curry: definitely. The but
we chose for a different model,
we chose for the value for value
model. And a lot of people
support us with value. I mean,
we're getting boots on the
ground reports very valuable. We
get artwork from artists very
valuable. We get jingles and of
show mixes, meet up reports all
very valuable.
John C Dvorak: But you got a
small patch today.
Adam Curry: Very valuable, great
value. We love that kind of
value. But if everybody else is
just sitting back and saying,
Well, you know what, and I'm
neurodivergent. And I can't do
anything of any value. And you
can't even spare a couple bucks
for the show that you listen to
six hours a week, which is
almost half it's actually a full
season of some Amazon shows.
John C Dvorak: It is six shows
we're done. And by the way, we
know where's my royalties?
Adam Curry: We're not going on
strike. You know, we we worked
through holidays, we work on the
weekend.
John C Dvorak: Two weeks of this
show is that is which is 12
hours is pretty typical of a
season of most TV nowadays.
Yeah, oh shows 13 shows 1112 13
You see that a lot.
Adam Curry: So I find it hard to
believe that you may only be
able to donate once a year fine.
But not everybody's donating.
Not everybody's doing their
part. A lot of you are hitting
people in the mouth. It's
appreciate that's good. But we
also do need the treasure part.
But it's up to you. It's your no
agenda show. We just put it all
together and create it and bring
your spice. Everything else is
up to you. So we appreciate the
trolls listening now. Yeah,
those are the trolls that were
broke. Okay, sure you're broke?
You can't afford $5. I mean,
that's hard to believe, party
bleep. Some people actually
can't afford $5. But you know
what they do? They go all out
and do other things. And they
know, I know.
John C Dvorak: Don't listen to
the show. Who doesn't listen to
the show? He can't afford $5 I
doubt your listener.
Adam Curry: But people think oh,
my $5 won't make a difference.
It makes a difference. It really
does.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we just had
nothing but $5 for those
900,000.
Adam Curry: You know, most
people worry most people. Most
people start a podcast and
become very disillusioned
because they don't get value
back. And they're thinking, Oh,
if I only can get 10,000 people
listening, then I can have
enough for ads. And then they
wind up with $40 at the end of
the month. It's true. It's true.
But getting value back from
people who and I'm talking about
real contributions. I mean, send
this even your notes, or it's an
important part, the numerology
you send along those with these
donations are important or
important. And if you haven't
donated in a while and you
haven't contributed with your
other time or talent, consider
it being time to send some
treasure. You don't have to do
it every single show. It doesn't
have to be hundreds of dollars,
whatever it whatever value you
get out of it. We want you to
send that back. That's all we've
ever asked for. It's just this
was a very disappointingly low
show. Is that purely the economy
back?
John C Dvorak: We're lucky we
only had one we only have one
lone executive producer, which
is a first Yeah, we haven't had
that kind of showing for years.
years, maybe we would have we'd
go it'd be like semi five or six
years ago there one show a year
we'd have no executive producer.
We had to bump somebody up. Yep.
I don't know. We have to do
that. Luckily gonna happen today
if that check in to come in.
Adam Curry: I know. But anyway,
so far,
John C Dvorak: we're gonna stand
here and complain bitterly you
don't go to the show is more
interesting than us complaining
so
Adam Curry: far. So far, your
contributions have allowed us to
do the job that we do, which
consists of, excuse me,
continuous work. Day in day out.
We are always doing no agenda.
People say, how many days do you
work on your pocket? I said
seven days a week. What do you
mean? Starts every morning.
Every morning, I go through all
the emails and this is the ones
that are already filtered out. I
usually have if I'm on track,
and I can keep it going. I have
about 60 or 70 that are that are
have been filtered. And that's
real stuff that I know is going
to be something's interesting. I
can't skip a single one than I
have a separate email box.
There's like five people who
send me 15 emails a day and 14
of Those are no good. Or the
repeats? No. But it's that one
gem that I want so, and that box
has 70 a day. So go through the
first I have a an alerts box
which says Tina, John Mimi, you
know, maybe my kids know that
that's it. Then they just
checked out, see if there's
anything important that came in.
Then I go to the inbox. And
there's, we have clip collectors
like Dave Ackerman, on show days
with clip custodian we have Neal
Jones, we have Steve Jones with
the he's another clip collector.
And they're extremely valuable
the work they do. Everything has
to be evaluated every TR t f 24,
Deutsche Avella clip, every
single one has to be looked at.
There's no There's no other
people doing that here. There's
no magic. And people are. Hey,
do you answer your own email?
Uh, yeah, who else? That's the
only way you can make a podcast
work. You can't hire staff in a
podcast. That's why Spotify is
going broke. It hasn't they
failed, they spent $2 billion on
buying these
John C Dvorak: Yes, this model
is not radio.
Adam Curry: No, it's not. And
radio was gonna go broke
eventually, too. That model
doesn't work either. Anyway, and
I'm, I'm very grateful. I'm very
grateful that we can do this,
but I just want you to know that
there will be an end if if
that's the economy, that's the
economy, then I'm gonna have to
go Which reminds me, I'll drive.
John C Dvorak: These assholes
are closing Anchor Brewing. One
of the great the original, you
know, kind of boutique brewery
in the world, or in the United
States or in California at
least. And Anchor Brewing has
been around for 127 years, I
believe. And bought by Sapporo a
few years ago, and Sapporo can't
seem to run an American Brewery
and they, they're going to
shutter it. And the thing is, is
worth about $45 million. And
there's not one Silicon Valley
billionaire. You can't just pick
this thing up and and run it
through, let it run itself or
give it to the employees or do a
million different things.
There's no Elon Musk, or any
number of hyper wealthy in the
Bay Area, which there's tons of
that can can pick up the slack
on this. As soon as gone.
Adam Curry: No, clearly, no one
found that valuable enough. For
him, other things are more
valuable to them, like space
exploration. I don't know. I
don't know. I don't know.
Unknown: Any laws or art?
Adam Curry: Well, no. Before we
do that, I want to remind
everybody that you too can
become a troll for free. No
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could all troll room.io Go
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And I love the people in the
troll room who are you know,
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bitching and moaning? I don't
recognize any of these people as
donors by the way. They are.
Their contribution is memes on
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John C Dvorak: is also somebody
before you go into the art.
Yeah. As you brought up Google,
we have a PSA. There's a song I
guess it's a classic. Coming up
at the end of the show about
Bing and Google and how the
world can't live without one go.
Yeah, can't live without
Google's name of the song. And
then Bing comes up in the
conversation. And I was thinking
I was that song, I think and you
know, what would happen if
Google actually just stopped and
ceased existence? You couldn't
use Bing. Now because Microsoft
would cancel it. They would
shutter it overnight. Why there
would be nothing. This is what
they do. They had this project
where they were scanning library
books You know, along with
Google When Google finally said
we're sick of it, because we're
getting sued left and right,
Microsoft continued for a while
they looked left. They look
right. Google wasn't doing it.
So they stopped. Yeah, it's a
terrible company. Anyway, I just
thought I'd get that out of the
way, because I couldn't do it
after the show. No, no, no,
that's in the show.
Adam Curry: We want to, we want
to thank Nico Syme. It was I
have to say the contributions in
art are off the chart at the
Arts off the chart, man. That's
it in the past couple of
episodes have been dynamite. And
it's very hard for us to choose
to choose a winner. Nico Syme
got the nod. Thought he had a
brilliant piece of art which was
and what I thought was brilliant
about it what it was basically
it was the fasten seatbelt sign
except that said, no agenda,
climate turbulence warning and
have the little buckle your seat
by fasten your seat belt.
Graphic, it was exactly like an
illuminated sign on the 737 from
about 1985 Somehow it was just
there was perfect.
John C Dvorak: You the one that
promoted this, right. Like the I
had liked the piece by Sir Paul,
who did the very nice piece of
arch, which was just below it. I
thought the art was superior
than Ecocide stuff was kind of
simplistic, but at the same time
when you brought up that it
looked like illuminated sign and
it did have motion it showed and
it got the point across and the
gag was there.
Adam Curry: What was the one?
What was the one you wanted?
John C Dvorak: The one the Sir
Paul Couture's fly the turbulent
skies with the stewardess all as
an art px the art well the
proper use it for the new Oh,
Adam Curry: I had a different
issue with that is that curry
DeVore AK was very, very tiny.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you didn't
like that part of it. And then
when I started thinking about
it, I think that the opportunity
was missed. To have the
stewardess flying in the air are
somehow a little flex yeah
tumbling or something active
something moving. Because the
star all the stories that we put
played about the turbulent skies
involve some stewardess flying
around like you know just in the
bumping her head or just flying
through the air and I thought
that would have been a nice
thing nobody picked up may I
Adam Curry: add since since this
is the donation segment and only
people who listened get to hear
the extra content and the magic
number. We received a very
beautiful email from Brandon
future sir homebound separator
of Baton Rouge airspace. An air
traffic controller isn't an air
traffic guy DTC guy. And he said
Oh, yeah. Oh, he first of all,
he confirmed I also have the
link if you'd like to see the
fuel saving arrival route which
takes you right through the
turbulence he said there's also
within the last decade, the FAA
has tightened the the spacing
between aircraft because modern
aircraft can handle wake
turbulence better now wake
turbulence is it's really a
spiraling air of flow of air
that comes from turbine engines.
So it used to be five miles
separation now it's three and a
half miles. The result of that
is a pretty much consistent
layer of wake turbulence because
it's there's always a pace.
Yeah. So ever
John C Dvorak: was getting a
bump. Yeah, like it or not,
you're getting a bumpy ride in
what it's
Adam Curry: not is climate
change. It's not climate change.
That's a lie. A lie a lie a lie.
But I do like that some stupid
Zoomers in Germany, went on the
runway and glued their hands to
the runway and they had to chop
a piece of the runway out of the
asphalt to get them from the
runway because they use epoxy
and some cement and there's
these two two girls two dipshit
girls with their hands glued to
this piece of asphalt that
they're not going to have to
have surgically removed and
they're and they're they're
crying
John C Dvorak: to dipshit girls
yes neurodivergent
Adam Curry: girls so for some we
looked at a lot of the pay pigs
but we really felt that you know
unless you knew pay pig that it
could be easily misunderstood
what what the pay pig was I kind
of in a weird way like comic
strip bloggers but fart that
look like Yeah, you did
John C Dvorak: like that for
some unknown reason, which now
just encourages him. Thanks for
that comment.
Adam Curry: I love the i By
John C Dvorak: the way, I did
like Nico Simes paper bunny den
also then Kenny bends they did
the competitive pay pigs using
the same clipart.
Adam Curry: And yes, they did
that which was interesting. We
didn't we didn't think the pay
pig in the PayPal logo was a
good idea. No for obvious
reasons. I liked Baron of BNS
glide path although, you know,
esoteric No, but only pilots
would understand what you were
looking at a glide right into
the tropisms that was funny for
sure. What else did we I think
that was kind of it wasn't it?
But everything is so it's, I
mean, not everything hits the
mark, but everything is quality,
this quality art and we're very
appreciative that we love our
artists and that we
John C Dvorak: there's at least
five to six pieces we could have
easily picked without regret.
Adam Curry: And already for
today's show we have 1214 pieces
already uploaded. I mean this
this this race is on man this is
this is good stuff. Thank you
very much. To our artists of
course, thank you, Nico Syme. No
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from the artists from the
current episode, especially when
we're talking about them which
makes it actually
John C Dvorak: there's 26 pieces
on right and that's insane
Adam Curry: All right, let's
thank our executive producer and
our what four or five Associate
Executive producers we kick it
off with Dame T J of the side
eye, and she sent in a note
which I have here that she said
Dear Adam didn't even add you to
the list was what's up with
that?
John C Dvorak: hates me.
Adam Curry: She She doesn't hate
you? No, because he actually
refers to you and she is from
where she from home on a second
do we have been our Haysville
hates $302 True new story
listener colong. When I was a
new listener, I had a completely
wrong theory for why your wife
was called the keeper. I figured
since she had a job and you were
a podcaster she made all the
money for the household.
Although that is not the genesis
of her story of her name. Yes,
she had a real job that made you
a kept man and her your keeper.
The True Story is probably as
romantic as JCD gets.
John C Dvorak: Oh,
Adam Curry: boy she's cater to
spices you if there's any travel
agents out there, please add to
your info. Add your info to the
no agenda marketplace so I can
hire you. Oh there you go.
Here's here's a gig everybody
marketplace.ya know agenda.com
What is this? Did I miss
something? The young No
agenda.com Is that I know is
that it? No. But is that a is
that a marketplace that I was
unaware of? Ever heard of it? I
guess so. Anyway, looking so if
you're a travel agent, you could
be you could be hired. Asking
for jingles. Eats or bugs. Do we
have an eat there's no eats eats
of bugs is there it's not just I
love bugs. Eat the bugs. Let me
see. There is
John C Dvorak: a there is eats a
jingle is about I found will eat
the bugs. I found
Adam Curry: it. I found it. I
found it the bugs. And along
with that. Look at that juice
and beautiful yum. Okay. Hiring
karma pleases I'm having
problems building a sales team.
If anyone wants a b2b sales job
with a mellow boss. And you're
neurodivergent and time blind.
Please email me at T Johnson at
otter and mule.com otter and
mule.com sine t j of the side i
The Christmas Dame Joe Williams.
Oh my gosh. Can you see that
Jews? Beautiful. You've got
Carmen for being a hater. That
was a pretty good sequence.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: give
Adam Curry: her that one guy was
a good sequence. We liked that
one.
John C Dvorak: Christie Zeiss in
ham. Chin Bay's New York is our
Associate Executive Producer at
$250. And she said rongke, which
is one of our podcasts couple
shows ago. Bronk was the goat I
listened to x thanks. I mean,
she listened twice, not at 2x is
different. She listened two
times. Yeah, very good. Listen
two times as six hours never
ever time. Here's a great
Adam Curry: example of someone
who understands value. DS laughs
who always Now very often sends
us an end of show mix did not
send one today. Instead, these
laughs from Toronto, California,
Canada, sent us some value $241
appreciate that. No jingles keep
it short and sweet. As a black
man as a black man, I got some
questions about Black Pete.
Hopefully no pics of you dressed
in Trudeau face come out and I
don't think so. Everyone should
become an executive producer one
time at least thank you for the
material to get me to start
rapping. Thank you very much DS
laughs appreciate that
John C Dvorak: a whole show on
Black Pete some years back Yes,
Adam Curry: it was before it was
on Vogue even was just kicking
off and now they have a slave
museum as well. well on their
way to what the whole point what
it all was all about. They
started with the Black Pete and
now there's reparations on deck
for Suriname's. Okay. All right.
Everybody has nothing to do with
Black Pete by the way, but there
you go.
John C Dvorak: Emily Shay, I
know that's the joke of it.
Yeah. Emily shade in Beaverton,
Oregon. She says hi John and
Adam, Adam and John actually
when she puts it finally check
my accounting and realize I was
practically a dame a perfect
birthday present for myself
accounting attache request to be
knighted Dame Emily and you're
on the list and ask for a
cappuccinos and fruit fruit
tarts at the round table I'm
also requested a biscuit for my
birthday 31st Birthday. Thank
you for that right now. They
always give me a biscuit on my
birthday. Tomorrow July 14 And
second is second meant second
meant second meant I don't think
she wants Second Amendment
karma. Second Amendment Okay
second amendment karma as I plan
to pursue a rotation from the US
to the UK was in my accounting
firm that second amendment
thanks you all Emily shade
throwing some shade from
Portland Oregon,
Adam Curry: but what do you
think it is? Because I have
second amendment karma well that
well I'll just give her this
John C Dvorak: code Second
Amendment got to do with the UK
and I don't know second. What
second meant what a second
minute second two minute second.
You want to look that up? Maybe
it's an actual word. Well, I'm
Adam Curry: gonna give her some
gunfire karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Just go.
Adam Curry: I mean, maybe
something can hurt right. can
hurt. Let me just add her
request to the roundtable. Have
that cappuccino and fruit tarts?
Yay. We got Todd from Northern
Virginia. Virginia. Nice
Palindrome to one 2.12. Same for
this backward. Set in the
morning, John Adam. I had to
thank the two of you and send
some treasure back your way you
always say to never skip the
donation segment and my
listening paid off. A small
windfall came my way when I
matched all the secret numbers
to hit the jackpot and because
my numbers were Palindrome I
even hit the douchebag Davao
Wow, this is what this is what
the show does. Could you please
send me some rental property
buying karma so I can get
another piece of the pie before
BlackRock and Vanguard buy up
all the country's real estate
and Sam prices into the
stratosphere. Thank you for your
courage love is lit Todd from
Northern Virginia Of course, and
congratulations on douchebag
karma.
John C Dvorak: So going back to
Emily shade, yeah. Second meant
second is what we're supposed to
be doing. A second meant is an
arrangement where a company
temporarily assigns an employee
to a new position. The new
position may be within the
organization or with a separate
business such as a client or
supplier. Who the hell ever use
that word in their life?
Unknown: I don't know.
John C Dvorak: Hence, it's also
considered a temporary
assignment. Interesting. Okay.
Wouldn't we learn something
today?
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you.
John C Dvorak: And we'll learn
something else from Sure.
malinovski in Baton Rouge,
Louisiana. Hey y'all. This
donation brings me to Baron
status accounting is attached
I'd like to my title upgraded to
serve malinovski Baron of South
Louisiana. Today's show was a
banger. Let's see to John tried
to process the information about
pay pigs in real time had
cracked meat had been had me
cackling I figured it was high
time to be a paid pig once again
for my favorite podcast is for a
jingle can I get Atlas Shrugged
followed by any Biden gaff ISO,
thanks for all you do and keep
it up.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we got you. By
iron Rand is a dead dog on my
lawn. It was not really a gaffe.
But that's that's what I thought
was funny to listen to.
John C Dvorak: was the winner is
a dead dog on his lawn. Wow,
that
Adam Curry: was that was one of
his that was one of his. His
things while back is now
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here. Thank you. Because it's
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John is going to take us through
the 50s Won't take long either.
John C Dvorak: And he came in
Columbus, Ohio 169 69 David
Fukase odour but in Gladstone,
Missouri is the Duke of many men
Baron or the somewhere in
Adam Curry: America for America,
America's heartland and the
Arabian Peninsula.
John C Dvorak: 152 12 Reading
Harrington sparks Nevada went
5212 Priscilla O'Leary and
Ramona California 147 Or neither
the East Side 133 33 in
Maplewood, Minnesota, here's a
switcheroo. This is the Cape
Coral meetup in Cape Coral,
Florida. My wife attended the
first no agenda meeting in Cape
Coral. Cannabis got together as
a great time. Please de douche
Linda Baxter de deuced
Adam Curry: sir Dan, the man
Baron of Southwest Florida
protector of Cape Coral on the
islands of Sanibel and Captiva
John C Dvorak: Silvana Gentile
in Orland hills, Illinois 100.
Lucas Williams in Roswell, New
Mexico 100 QQ Q. QQ. Just QQ in
Key West Florida 100 Karen
Strickland Littleton, Colorado
100.
Adam Curry: Mentioned QQ
unsubscribe from all services
Amazon, Netflix, Google, Apple,
etc. Made a monthly subscription
to no agenda. money better spent
today. Donating is because our
company is slowly getting back
on his feet the effects of Biden
in the mafia, but he canceled
all of his douchebags
subscriptions to support the
best podcast in the universe,
just saying.
John C Dvorak: There's a lot of
douchebag subscriptions there he
listed. Chris deacon in burnt
ranch California 9999. Aaron why
Bergen robbers Wisconsin 808
Kevin McLaughlin dairy is in
Concord, North Carolina 808.
Boobs. Mike McCoy in Schaumburg,
Illinois. 808. Short, Kevin's
dedication to breasts is an
inspiration to us all. And he
writes indeed. Sir Jheri curl in
Raleigh, North Carolina 7140.
Adam Curry: This was their
emotion. This was the promotion.
Oh, sorry.
John C Dvorak: It is yeah, this
Adam Curry: was the Bastille Day
promotion.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Great idea. Yes. But so he was
bored. He
Adam Curry: rocked, man.
John C Dvorak: I got one guy.
Jheri curl, bearing a BA Well,
you know that here's a joke of
it. I sent a newsletter on the
15th. Bastille Day was the day
before and I had the dates mixed
up. You thought and I said it
was today. And it wasn't the
maybe that's why it failed. No,
no. Maybe Baron BNA is up next
in Nashville, Tennessee. 5993.
James Edmondson in South
Plainfield, New Jersey, at 510
Richard Futter in London UK 5510
Pete Lockwood in San Francisco
California with a birthday 55
And for his in is a biscuit
first or do they always give me
a biscuit on my birthday John?
Know why these hours
Adam Curry: what are you doing?
Don't don't go to work. I had to
move it. Come back to the mic.
Come back to the mic and I'm
John C Dvorak: trying to get
this thing straightened out. I
don't want to put it by the
thing again.
Adam Curry: What what do you
have to do what
John C Dvorak: where was
bugging? Yes.
Adam Curry: Very barren of bna
24. Oh,
John C Dvorak: in Nashville,
Tennessee. He came in with 15 I
93 James Edmondson in South
Plainfield, New Jersey, 55, and
no I did all these 55 ends. I
did Peter Lockwood and San
Francisco for his birthday.
Adam Curry: You're right. I'm
confused.
John C Dvorak: Three funderburk
in Spokane, Washington Darrow
and for 95 Darryl Keck, Dubuque,
Iowa 5110.
Adam Curry: Are you are you are
you not talking into the mic?
You're definitely something
happened.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yes, this
mic. Ah, the mic has moved on
me. Hold on. I'm gonna move it
back.
Adam Curry: You didn't see that?
John C Dvorak: No, I'm not
looking at it. There we go.
Okay. Thanks for catching that.
Yeah. This little nub needs to
be tightened tighten your knob.
Ah, I can't you know, it's like
you know, they put these little
things on there and there's not
enough leverage to do any real
tightening through notices with
his with his gear.
Adam Curry: I don't have that
John C Dvorak: economic hitman.
Okay, sorry, economic I'm sorry,
I'm complaining. Sure. Economic
Hitman in Tomball, Texas 5001.
And here we go into $50 donors.
And it looks like I was wrong in
my analysis. By the way, I want
to apologize. Kevin deals in
Huntersville North Carolina.
Christian Freeman in San Marcos,
Texas. Big Papa productions in
Minneapolis Chris Lewinsky in
Sherwood Park. Easy, easy
landscapes in North Stonington
Connecticut. Michael Thompson a
new Brownsville, Texas. Dilip
blue in Louisville, Kentucky,
Kelly MacDill and Mission Hills
Kansas. Michael perote parrot
parrot in Salem, Oregon. Todd
Hendrickson in Woodstock,
Illinois, switcheroo for as long
as youngest brother Chad
Hendrickson, and he does it
again. 50 bucks Woodstock,
Illinois for his brother Kyle
Hendricks and a Carpentersville
How cool. Oh, wait a minute. He
does it one more time. Is this a
massage? No Anderson brothers
should ever be known as a
douchebag. So we need dee doo
dee doo
Unknown: dee doo stickers of
course. Of course we did.
Douche.
John C Dvorak: Do another one.
All right. You've been de deuced
Sara Gordon in Tucson, Arizona.
50. Rick lob LaMancha. In hope
Rhode Island. And so Mitra
Saravana. in Fredericksburg,
Fredericksburg, Fredericksburg,
Virginia, or Virginia. There's
never been a donation from
Fredericksburg.
Adam Curry: You know? That's a
good point. And I know there's
people listening. And quite
frankly, I'm disappointed in
y'all. Y'all notice I've done
y'all to speak to the locals
here. Y'all know.
John C Dvorak: Last on the list
is windy Brahmin, in Saginaw.
Yeah, Michigan.
Adam Curry: Everybody's
listening here. But the whole
town listens to no agenda.
John C Dvorak: They don't like
us. Listen possible.
Adam Curry: It's just hatless.
And it's possible. It's very
possible. You never know. The
douchebags. Well, that
John C Dvorak: was I'm sorry,
there's 46 People 45 People, not
19. I was wrong. But I was
looking at is I didn't know what
I was looking I was a different
spreadsheet. I'm not sure.
Adam Curry: Thank you to all of
our donors, of course, those who
did step up and who do deliver
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makes us happy. It makes us feel
good about what we're doing. And
of course, people come in under
$50. We will not mention
anything. Therefore anonymity,
just in case you know, you can
be sure that we'll never
mentioned under 50. But there's
a lot of subscriptions. You can
do your own numbers, your own
subscription you can go to well,
we have a website where you can
find out exactly what kind of
subscriptions are already pre
programmed for you for.org/and A
is is code monkey working on the
new donation site is that I mean
seriously, I'm not composed I
can tell. Okay, just want to
make sure. Thank you all very
much. Thank you again to our
executive and Associate
Executive producers we really
appreciate appreciate you
producing 1573 Our formula is
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I don't want to be whenever I
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John C Dvorak: you write it over
yourself so you don't allow me
that you know,
Adam Curry: because this is what
we call steam baby we're
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we thank you very much. And
congratulations with your barony
sir malinovski Yes, John, you
had a question?
John C Dvorak: No, I have an
apology. Oh, okay. I have an
apology to make to Dame TJ of
the side I have after writing
her for being a hater. Oh, okay.
It turns out she wrote a card
which was scanned I'm sure.
Specifically to me
Adam Curry: Oh, and she's a
lover not a hater.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she says
love you John. Oh wow. Wow,
you're all that and more you
need to repent fee podcast day.
She had to say happy birthday
card she's repurposed its
podcast day planner No
Adam Curry: How can it be
podcast day one it's artificial
intelligence day
John C Dvorak: well same thing
so
Adam Curry: same difference
she's
John C Dvorak: she says she has
and she's she's want to put a
little patch in there. Says
awesome dad great guy you got to
pack right
Adam Curry: Oh man you what you
repent.
John C Dvorak: I do she writes I
especially like it when you use
rare words like close close that
I've read but never heard. How a
minor
Adam Curry: point but no but
people love you for your
vocabulary
John C Dvorak: for all you do.
She writes so I was a bomb CAD I
was literally a CAD to her
Adam Curry: I would say douche
but okay, CAD CAD
John C Dvorak: we're like close
better like close it's just more
douche we use too much on the
show
Adam Curry: we have Emily
standing by here Emily shade
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John C Dvorak: oh well I've got
the special Dame blade here nice
blade
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Unknown: No one.
Adam Curry: A lot of producers
are providing value to the
community that is the no agenda
show people who go to meetups
they pretty much always donate
I've noticed that so that's very
much appreciated. We got a
report from the Dayton Ohio
meetup from Sir Egghead Night of
the Long shadows of trash
mountain. He says it was a spur
of the moment many meet up this
past Friday night at Dublin pub
in the heat on the patio in
Dayton, Ohio and attendance me
sir Egghead sir Nick Lucas
Deaton from Dayton, mousy bear
and Abel Kirby's are able Kirby
from rare encounter and Carolyn
from hog story who I didn't
realize were local ish, as well.
I'll say I said it before I'll
say it again. Go to a meet up or
start one yourself. It's like a
partay good people that I was in
Ohio, Dayton, Ohio. Good people.
interesting conversation. No
buts hurt even when asking if
black people get the hiccups? Is
this all right, thank you very
much for that report. We have
more reports. Here's one from
Fort Worth.
Unknown: In the morning, this is
serotonin and here is the meetup
report for the fourth word meet
up we're going to pass the
foreigner on and thank you want
to thank everybody for showing
up. Hey, John
and Adam sir turbo here. Fort
Worth meet up in the morning.
This Sir Tim from the Terrance
wall plans in the morning. Make
sure to go to a meet up it's a
great time.
Sir le fonts here from North
Idaho Post Falls. I'm here to
meet up and Fort Worth. Awesome
beep I'm glad I came up
Adam Curry: you see a lot you
can hear it there's always days
and nights at these things as
these are people who really
support the show and they know
connection is protection while
you always have to attend a meet
up regularly let's go to Leo
Bravo flight of the no agenda.
Unknown: Hi everyone, it's Leo
pravo find out the no agenda
meetup number 42. I'm passing
the phone around. Some folks
have words to say
definitely don't miss out on the
next no agenda meetup great
conversation, great people great
weather you got to find more
community and will make you feel
good. So come back. Hey guys,
this
is Slick Rick and great time at
the meetup at the proud bird
with Lele the spook
in the morning. This is Reina
from Glendora sir milkman in the
morning. This is Raquel from
Arcadia in the morning and be
digital from Altadena
Adam Curry: beautiful one more
to go.
Unknown: We don't like to foster
a competitive atmosphere but we
laugh a lot now everyone can
share a secret
in the morning get donations
with center here and in the oh
Adam Curry: I'm sorry this is
the Switzerland meetup the
Credit No Credit Suisse meetup,
which was quite large I think
there was 10 people all handsome
and pretty
Unknown: in the morning getting
donations sent out here and in
the evening to all the Korean to
keep for listeners.
This is causing me FM Zurich in
the morning and trust me much.
Sir Richard Barbarossa in the
morning show. This is Marty the
matrix has you in the morning
Hello this is for Sir Luca and
we're having a great time.
Hi everybody. I am I'm Oscar
reporting from Zurich. We had a
nice time today.
You should do it you
ATM from Wally. So from getting
like keep nomination form to
cheese. We had a lovely meeting
in Zurich. And yeah if anyone
has any questions about solar
panels hit me up on this
you Scott
Adam Curry: Okay. You don't need
to produce it like that. But
thank you. It just blows me away
that we got a group of people
who meet in Zurich to just
hanging out connect with each
other, find their community and
and just be part of no agenda
nation and get my nation fondue
cheese. Thank you so much. I
love that. We have a promo for a
Texas Baron Scott checking in
for us.
Unknown: This is gern Scott here
to let you know it's that time
of the year again. The third
annual Central Texas float meet
is set for Sunday, August 13.
This year we'll be on the
springfed San Marcos River.
We'll meet at the rail yard Bar
and Grill for each and libations
after a three hour float. Good
and no agenda meetup.com for
details and your RSVP to both
the morning float in the
afternoon meetup. Connection has
protection on the river
Adam Curry: on the river indeed.
Thank you very much Baron Scott.
Coming up. Today we have the
Tucson Wild West Side meet up
that's underway. I think Arizona
whiskey roads Tucson. We have
hunters deviated septum Memorial
all so sad his septum has
deviated Miller's Ale House in
Mount Laurel Township, South New
Jersey. I think it's underway on
Thursday or next show day North
Idaho sanity brigade five
o'clock it's in. It's so Kirk
Abbey and Post Falls Idaho. The
South Mississippi testing the
turnout meet up that's the
second one Kagan barrel at 630
in Haiti, Hattiesburg MS is
Missouri. No Mississippi. MS is
Mississippi. Yes, you're peeing.
I got you. And
John C Dvorak: I'm not I'm
sitting here and yes it is. It's
okay I wouldn't be doing I'm
just supposed to be but you're
gonna pull that stunt.
Adam Curry: And then finally
Charlotte's thirsty Third
Thursday monthly meet up seven
o'clock edge Tavern in
Charlotte, North Carolina man we
have a lot of meetups going all
the way through. August we have
Nyborg, Denmark on July 21,
Maastricht the Netherlands on
the 21st just looking for the
international ones. We have done
nang Vietnam on July 29, Habbo
Vietnam, we didn't we and of
course, Vilnius, Lithuania on
August 26, which is just in time
for the next NATO meeting.
Apparently. We appreciate all of
these organizers. It's so good.
It's so important. This is
something that everybody can
benefit from. It really will
complete your no agenda
experience if you go to a
meetup, no agenda meetups.com
Thank you, sir Daniel, for
keeping that website up and
running. Thank you Mimi, for
coordinating it all. If you
can't find one near you start
one no agenda meetups.com It's
easy. You
Unknown: go hang out with Bom
Bom you won't be triggered you
to be weird everybody feels
the same do bom bom like
John C Dvorak: before we get to
the ISO since you mentioned
Vietnam I want to play a cat I
clipped it came off of was sent
in by a producer came off of C
span about cameras visit visited
Vietnam in a kind of a gaffe
Adam Curry: camo Vietnam okay
got
Unknown: it flowers at the site
where John McCain was shot down
in Vietnam. What the know
nothing millennials who set
camallo schedule didn't know
that had the site that she's
laying those flowers out it's a
celebration of those who shot
McCain's plane out of the sky
and in passing him, delivering
him to the VC for his long stay
and torture at the Hanoi Hilton.
The stunning ignorance of Kamala
Harris and her team was noted by
y'all when you a journalist
based in Beijing, she tweeted
this Harris No, this monument
honors the people who shot down
John McCain's plane, Vietnamese
people who view him as a war
criminal. So in essence, Harris
was paying tribute to those who
were shot down John McCain. It'd
be like Harris laying a wreath
at Pearl Harbor honoring the
brain Japanese pilots who sunk
the USS Arizona.
Adam Curry: Wow, wow, wow, hold
on a second. I had no idea that
that's a better gaffe than the
stupid population thing. This is
a clip of the day job. Now we
might as well play the one that
everyone's laughing about, which
is the population gaff, and I've
got it right here about the
Unknown: impact on something
like public health when we
invest in clean energy and
electric vehicles and reduce
population. More of our children
can breathe clean air and drink
clean water.
Adam Curry: Clean Water MK Ultra
victim.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I
know what day she was meant to
see. pollution, pollution but of
course population came at us
command
Adam Curry: had to come up
because that ultimately is
exactly what it's about. Reduce
the population. The carbon is
you people. The carbon is you.
ISOs
John C Dvorak: I have three What
do you got?
Adam Curry: I got four. Oh, hmm.
Well, you go first.
John C Dvorak: There might be
okay. This time. Okay. Okay.
Start with Think.
Adam Curry: Think. Think about
it. Not bad.
John C Dvorak: Okay, then we'll
go to water. Water.
Unknown: I have a drink of
water.
Adam Curry: Let me hear that
again. A drink of water. Drink
of water. It's pretty good.
Pretty good. I like it's funny.
John C Dvorak: We got Yes, yes.
Yes.
Adam Curry: Wow. Cute. Where's
that from?
John C Dvorak: I remember some
some NPR
Adam Curry: I have for let's see
if anything's any good.
Unknown: But just because
they're crazy. doesn't mean
they're stupid.
John C Dvorak: That's insulting.
Unknown: I think we want more
balls. Dude, we'll get my boys.
Adam Curry: I like this is the
last one I have. This may be the
one.
Unknown: I think they're
fantastic. Come on. Yeah, that's
it. Jen
Adam Curry: Psaki baby. Jen
Psaki. She's the best. Our Jen
is? Well, well, well, let's see.
Oh, I had something. Just a
brief one. I'm sure you have
some other stuff. But I just
wanted to play this clip,
followed by a Redux clip. This
is ABC
Unknown: one day after getting
some good news about the
inflation rate some troubling
news about the federal deficit
and nearly tripled in the last
nine months. Government spending
on Medicare and Social Security
went up while tax revenue went
down. The bank bailouts back in
March also contributed
Adam Curry: the bank bailouts
back in March contributed to the
deficit the deficit? If I'm just
so I understand. Is the deficit
is that something that gets put
on the taxpayers ultimately?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think
blood Yeah, sure. Why not? I
mean, who also get to stick it
to exactly get it from someone.
Corporations are all taxpayers.
If you
Adam Curry: spend money you
don't have so you have to borrow
it. That is a deficit. And that
again, while tax
Unknown: revenue went down, the
bank bailouts back in March also
contributed.
Adam Curry: So the bank bailouts
contributed to the deficit,
which is a burden for the
taxpayers.
John C Dvorak: But also they
also mentioned that the tax went
down. In other words we had
Adam Curry: let me get to a
point let me get to my point.
But the bank bailouts went into
the deficit which gets put on to
the taxpayers. Let's go back in
time this morning,
Unknown: Treasury Secretary
Janet Yellen is expected to face
some grilling over the banking
system on Capitol Hill.
According to prepared remarks,
Yellen will reassure that
taxpayer money is not being used
or put at risk in the Fallout
and that Americans can feel
confident their deposits will be
there when they need them.
Adam Curry: We were assured that
this would not be put on our
shoulders.
John C Dvorak: But no, she was
specifically referring to the
specific banks that they did.
FDIC picked up they already had
they already had to take your
money. Are
Adam Curry: you defending Janet
Yellen? Yeah, that's an outrage
John C Dvorak: for what she said
there. Yeah. Because all she
said was $1 We got this cover.
We're not going to stick to
sticking to the taxpayers
because they've already been
stuck.
Adam Curry: So apparently Janet
Yellen, when she was in, in
China, concert consumed four
servings of John HSU queen, a
type of wild mushroom, which
some say are hallucinogenic. Are
you familiar with this?
John C Dvorak: I'm not familiar
with the story that she had four
servings four servings that
probably tastes the mushroom.
Adam Curry: The media coverage
was quite enthusiastic and even
praised Yellin chopsticks
skills. However, these
particular mushrooms are
notorious in their native
province of Yunnan for their
unpredictable psychedelic
effects. The Jin Jin Hua state
news agency published a report
about the mushrooms potent
powers only after Yellin had
left that were one connoisseur
shared. Hmm. You thought you
were walking straight but you
just fell sideways. Dr. Peter
Mortimer professor of the coming
Kunming Institute of botany
informed CNN, he knew someone
who mistakenly consumed these
mushrooms and experienced
hallucinations for three days.
John C Dvorak: About that she
notice
Adam Curry: no one noticed from
her behavior either oddly stupid
Jarrett Jarom. Wow. How about
that, huh?
John C Dvorak: Yes, that means
this should have been planned.
And on CBS.
Adam Curry: I got a lot of
people warning me about my
kratom experiment.
John C Dvorak: Like a lot. And I
want to hear about it.
Adam Curry: Well, I got emails
saying y'all you shouldn't do
that. I know guys who are strung
out. It's highly addictive that
and they got boom, said his mic,
and they got gastrointestinal
issues. And you know, so Stephen
are our kratom. Producer. He
says, Yeah, okay, sure. People
use the toss and wash micro
powder flour. Yeah, if you're
using that, that you buy at some
hedge shop. Yeah, but he brews
it from red and green kratom
leaves. He says a very
different, we're not talking
about the same stuff. And most
of the stories about by the way,
I haven't consumed any since I
mean, I will have a bottle He
sends us six so it's not like
I'm gonna get strung out on
kratom that'd be a good one. But
he says most people use kratom
to try and get off of real
opioids. And so you know, when
do you get the FDA with a kratom
death list? And they don't
actually test to see if anyone
has any other addictive
addictions. I'm not trying to
say like, I'm not trying to
defend my kratom intake because
I just it does give you a buzz
it's a nice little buzz for
sure. I doubt that it'll
John C Dvorak: but does it give
you energy? I thought that was
the point. Oh, no, it
Adam Curry: does not give me
energy. No, it just makes me
feel kind of groovy for a bit
while watching friends you know
it's nice it's really I'm
feeling groovy that Elijah
feeling groovy All right, why
don't you go ahead No go ahead
go ahead go
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we could
Adam Curry: we need to do coke
gate
John C Dvorak: we don't have any
I have no coke anything I have
nothing but Colgate Okay, well,
let me play this little funny
clip first. Your funny clue. So
another tick tock clip is this
is UCLA students two times oh
wait, wait this man on the
street UCLA students being asked
questions two times
Unknown: two times one two,
which ocean is on the east side
of the United States? The East
one you from you're from New
Pacific. You guys know this?
I know this. I don't know this
Pacific. No, I can't do the
oceans. I don't do the Pacific.
What is the capital of the
United States? So I knew I was
gonna do we I didn't want to
think because I don't want to
sound down It just there's no
capital via literally is there
no capital? Correct
you guys are UCLA go to UCLA
Adam Curry: Wow divorce
California just saying yeah well
just divorce they sound
neurodivergent at best. Colgate
everybody Coke a does some weird
things in these reports that I
do want to want to highlight
some some commonalities. Let's
start with NBC.
Unknown: Tonight the Secret
Service coming up empty after
days of investigation and
sophisticated forensic testing.
Officials cannot identify who
left a small baggie of cocaine.
Okay,
Adam Curry: small baggie. What
are these people regular Coke
users that they use terms like
small baggie just a bag of
cocaine a small bag but why
small baggie? Is that what you
used to
John C Dvorak: call it which is
an old term from the 60s 70s 80s
for a baggie of marijuana says
there's fat you know there's hot
smokers relating to pot smoking
weird ag weird never been
cocaine in a
Adam Curry: bag a baggie. It's
like
John C Dvorak: as values it's
Adam Curry: it's sold in ounces.
It's an ounce of cocaine a half
ounce a quarter ounce a teeny
weeny bit of rounds, but they
all
John C Dvorak: they're all us I
thought it was in grams.
Adam Curry: While I'm talking
Europe, I don't know. I mean, we
do everything big in Texas.
John C Dvorak: Oh, good point.
Good comeback.
Unknown: Officials cannot
identify who left a small baggie
of cocaine, kilos kilos keys
baby keys in a storage cubby
used for electronic devices near
this West Wing entrance. House
Speaker Kevin McCarthy raising
doubts but if
they can't tell us who brought
it, what else is happening in
the White House they can't tell
us about what else is coming
into the White House they can
tell me about that even concerns
me more now.
Lab tests conducted at the FBI
crime lab did not develop latent
fingerprints and insufficient
DNA was present for
investigative comparisons.
Officials said they use video
and entrance logs to compile a
list of more than 500
individuals who had access to
the entrance in the days before
it was found July 2. But without
physical or video evidence,
officials could not connect the
drug to any suspect
it's complete failure. I mean,
this thing is is ridiculous.
The White House said it is
reviewing the findings.
Democrats acknowledged despite
law enforcement efforts. The
mystery remains a
Adam Curry: mystery. Mystery.
Let's listen to CBS if they have
any more clues to this mystery
Unknown: got any other big story
today. They said it has closed
its investigation into that
mysterious bag of cocaine that
was found in a White House work
area earlier this month.
Adam Curry: We have what's your
name is Nora. No, this is no
This is Nicole. That's Nora
knows Nicole. is Nicole. This
Nicole's younger
John C Dvorak: person that's
just reading that right there.
Adam Curry: I think so. Play it
again. Now we'll continue.
Unknown: So why wasn't a suspect
ever identified? We hit CBS News
Ganga at the White House in
Adam Curry: this Nicole scan
goes at the White House. Come on
in Nicole
Unknown: after the Secret
Service discovered cocaine in
the West Wing of the White House
press secretary Kareem Jean
Pierre said President Biden
expected a thorough
investigation.
The President it's very
important to get to the bottom
of this that's but after
just 10 days the Secret Service
closed its investigation unable
to identify whose cocaine it was
and how it got inside the White
House. The small baggie
containing
Adam Curry: bag a small baggie
Why are they all using the term
baggie
Unknown: roughly point two grams
of the drug was found July 2
Just inside the guest entryway
to the West Wing. In a cubby
used by visitors to store
cellphones steps away from the
situation room. FBI analysts
examining the bag look for
traces of DNA and fingerprints
but found no definitive results.
The Secret Service which briefed
the House Oversight Committee
this morning scoured video
inside and outside the building
and said no surveillance footage
provided investigative leads.
I don't know who it is and they
it's complete failure.
Some Republicans left the
briefing demanding answers
How can in the White House 24/7
security. They find cocaine but
now they just closed the
investigation.
In its statement. The Secret
Service cited the difficulty in
singling out a person among the
hundreds of individuals who pass
through the area where the
cocaine was discovered. The
Secret Service has a canine unit
that screens for explosive
devices and biohazards but not
illegal drugs. And for some
lawmakers this incident now
raises questions about security
protocols at the White House.
Adam Curry: This is very
disturbing. We cannot find who
of these 500 people who pass
through that entrance drop their
baggie that baggie of cocaine.
Let's go to PBS.
Unknown: The Secret Service has
finished investigating how a
baggie of cocaine
Adam Curry: even PBS is using
baggy what is up with baggy?
Come on. I need answers. Why is
this called a baggie
Unknown: gating how a baggie of
John C Dvorak: coke is some
buddy whoever sent out the press
release used it no that must be
hurting the press release.
Unknown: A baggie of cocaine got
into the White House with No
leads and no suspects. The
powder drug turned up in a lobby
area used by staff and tour
groups are like a secret service
reports as tests found no
fingerprints and no DNA and
video of the lobby entrance was
no help.
Adam Curry: So there were no
fingerprints and no DNA on the
baggy. Bo crap. Bo Come on. Your
wiped your baggie. Let's listen
to see if if Chuck Todd should
chip Chuck Chuck Todd Todd cast
is on the same type of baggy
Meet the
Unknown: Press Welcome back to
the investigation into that nine
bag of cocaine
Adam Curry: dime bag
John C Dvorak: doc did he say
Adam Curry: that? He said
Dimebag there's no such Dimebag
as weed even I know that's a
weed you saying? Yeah. You know,
he's saying Dimebag This is
ridiculous.
John C Dvorak: Well be that wait
a minute, maybe there this is
code number a different idea.
Adam Curry: Okay, well what's
the what's the why is he using
different code is code for
John C Dvorak: marijuana because
they found Camela stash and
they're just making it clear to
her that we know we're careful
it's
Adam Curry: you Kamala we know
what you
Unknown: welcome back to the
investigation into that non bag
of cocaine that was found at the
White House earlier this month
is over, but there's no
conclusion on who is responsible
the Secret Service announced
this morning the no forensic
grams that
John C Dvorak: wouldn't be a
dime bag anyway a
Adam Curry: dime is a price it's
$10 so it'd be two bucks or
John C Dvorak: or 100 depending
on what street are got.
Adam Curry: I wouldn't know
because I can only afford nickel
bags,
Unknown: but there's no
conclusion on who is responsible
the Secret Service announced
this morning or video evidence
we're able to clearly identify
anyone who tends to be
responsible for bringing this
done sighs baggie of the drug
and
Adam Curry: dime size baggie now
he throws the size of a dime
John C Dvorak: a dime sized bag
that's there you got you got
your your your your you nailed
one there.
Adam Curry: What is this dime
size baggie?
John C Dvorak: That's this
little BPD Beedie Beedie Beedie
thing
Adam Curry: it's so what's the
size of a dime?
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what
he said he the way he described
it. This guy's this guy's got
one foot out the door. He's not
even being careful.
Adam Curry: I've never seen
cocaine in his life apparently.
For weed. No wonder he's getting
fired
Unknown: clearly identify anyone
potentially responsible for
bringing this Don sighs baggie
of the drug into the White House
ticket service did briefed
members of the House today.
Three sources familiar with that
briefing tell NBC News that they
had narrowed down the list of
individuals who were in the area
in question 40 hours before the
cocaine was found to between
506 100 People
Adam Curry: now, the only person
who has the right idea about
this also played this next one.
So what are they going to do
with these 500 people?
Unknown: Did they interview
anybody?
Now that we know of and
basically what we've been told
is they looked at the
surveillance video, they went
through the visitor logs. And I
suspect they would have done
interviews if they had had some
sort of forensic evidence that
they could try to match to
someone but no one has talked
about interviews. In the time
that I've been working on this
over the last 10 days.
Adam Curry: I've been working
for 10 days on this dime size
baggie gate. So
Unknown: the surprising thing is
people would expect of course
they can solve it. The FBI crime
lab was involved fort Dietrich,
which does very sophisticated
testing for
Adam Curry: calling the Dietrich
boss
John C Dvorak: depresses.
So I have to assume that they
mentioned a fort Dietrich had to
do with the fact that they
thought it might be anthrax. And
we know that that's where it
would have come from.
Adam Curry: Oh, this is so good.
Unknown: Expect Of course they
can solve it. The FBI crime lab
was involved fort Dietrich which
does very sophisticated testing
of things that could be anthrax
or rice in or biological Asian.
In this case what they're saying
is it was a very small plastic
baggie they could not get
Adam Curry: a very small plastic
baggy, baggy, baggy baggy,
they're
Unknown: saying is it was a very
small plastic baggie, they could
not get fingers in a ziplock
John C Dvorak: I've got to throw
on a second. Where's the report?
Yeah,
Adam Curry: I've got to think
all these people are do coke.
John C Dvorak: Where except
where is the reporting and
whether it's a Ziploc bag or a
GLAAD bag? What kind of bag is
it?
Adam Curry: Well, they all know
what it means because they're
all using the baggie code. Hey,
you got a baggie on you. Yeah,
make music Give me some coke.
I'm about to go on air except
chip Todd. Chuck Todd. He
doesn't know anything.
John C Dvorak: No. He never.
Well, that's fair for the
course. Sure. He's square,
square man do coke.
Adam Curry: He doesn't do we're
just like no, get rid of that
guy. He's not partying in sales
Unknown: of things that could be
anthrax or rice in our
biological Asian. In this case,
what they're saying is it was a
very small plastic baggie, they
could not get fingerprints that
were usable off of that they did
some advanced testing, expensive
process.
John C Dvorak: expensive
process. Oh, that's the process
where they do the that
sublimation process is kind of
expensive,
Unknown: some advanced testing,
expensive process, and DNA
didn't have enough material to
do a comparison. If they had
found something then you would
need to figure out well, how do
you compare it? And if you're
talking about visitors, people
who are coming in on a tour, a
staff lead tour, not opposed
just
gonna say we should remind
people this is this is why I'm a
little skeptical of whether they
could find it or not. Because
this is not the most trafficked
entrance and this is the VIP
entrance in some form or another
as
VIPs goes through there. They're
our ally get
John C Dvorak: their story
straight. It's first it was
carpenters only went through
there. It was by the parking
lot.
Adam Curry: It's Camelus. I'm
sure this is not
Unknown: the most traffic
entrance and this is the VIP
entrance West exactly in some
form or another as
VIPs go through there. But there
are a lot it. I call it a
working entrance meaning not
to go. I mean, I've only been
through there if I've been
escorted. Yes. It's not a
presidentially, it
Adam Curry: is not a
presidentially if I've been oh
it's not the press isn't we may
know everything about baggies
but it's not us it's not our
it's not our not our skank not
art not our not our blow, not
our powder, not our snow babies,
not us. Certainly not chip togs
but those who just said, It's
not us. It's not us if we didn't
Well, we're all cool kids here
because we all talk about
baggies. By the way. I love how
fast you're
Unknown: talking, not a press
entry. It
is not a press entrance. But
those who are
Adam Curry: it's the drug
dealers entrance. We all know
that's where the dealers come in
entry. It
Unknown: is not a press
entrance. But those who are
right now there's a lot of
construction being done some
remodeling being done.
Contractors, contract personnel,
Adam Curry: the damn carpenters,
you're right, John,
Unknown: staff will go through
there, the President will go
through they're going over to
the EOB. But in terms of
visitors, it was a holiday
weekend. And there are a lot of
staff led tours that happen
after work hours and on the
weekend. And so we've some
officials are saying the leading
theory it was as a visitor,
Adam Curry: no. Marjorie Taylor
Greene has the right idea.
Unknown: This is why I'm a
little skeptical of whether they
could find it or not. Because
this is not the most trafficked
entrance, and this is the VIP
entrance.
John C Dvorak: This is not what
I wanted. Can I make a comment?
Just coming to me she wants to
do is drop a drop point. I think
that was a secret. That's why
there is no fingerprints or
anything on it because the guy
literally did a wipe down and he
dropped it there for someone
else to pick up. Possible. I
guess it was it was the dealers
drop point he got somehow
involved with the carpenters.
Whoever's going in there, you
got through, got through the
interest dropped it there for
someone Camela or Hunter come to
mind to pick it up. When they
didn't pick it up. Who else
doesn't pick stuff up? Well,
then there must be a Venmo
laptop anybody is example of the
past not picking up a laptop not
picking up your drugs?
Adam Curry: I think the I think
this is a duplicate clip. I
think because Marjorie Taylor
Greene, let me see if it's here.
Hold on a second. We don't know
Unknown: that's the most likely
thing is somebody that was
there's a drug policy and drug
testing requirements for
employees of the White
House, you still do drug
testing. And it's randomized
drug test. Yes,
they do. And so one of the
congresswoman Marjorie Taylor
Greene was saying well test all
500 of the names. Yes, of
course, you need probable cause
to do that. Massively test
people might have visitors. So
it's an unsatisfying answer for
a lot of people.
Adam Curry: You can't just
massively test Yes. If you were
in the White House. I think you
you can be tested. You can mass
we tested
John C Dvorak: millions of
people for Kobe. No, it's a
waste of time.
Adam Curry: Well, the view had
more more interesting data than
these jokes.
Unknown: Here's what I'd say. Is
this the most important story of
our time? Yes, it is. No, does
it matter? Yes. So this entrance
where it was found is the West
exec entrance into
John C Dvorak: the library.
Adam Curry: Now, everyone's
lying. That's why it's so funny.
When which
Unknown: is not one that is used
for more ceremonial events. It's
really where senior staff who
have blue badges that allow them
access For the West Wing going
to senior staff you have to be
escorted in if you're a guest by
somebody who has a bad show, and
it's literally 10 steps from the
Situation Room, which I believe
is under renovation, but just so
you get a sense of like where it
is in the building,
Adam Curry: maybe it was one of
the the generals, or the, you
know, the five star generals,
all jacked on Coke, the VP.
Ooh, the VP.
Unknown: The VP vice president
Harris walks in that entrance
every day because her motorcade
drops her off there
Adam Curry: every day. That's,
that's your that's your drop
point.
John C Dvorak: That's the rumor.
Hey, VP,
Adam Curry: a VP. I'll drop it.
And you will know when you come
in tomorrow, through this
entrance as you do every day,
just send me a Venmo
Unknown: it's foot traffic of
senior staff and every person
visitors to and their little
cubbies because you have to be
escorted by seniors to be
invited. And you have to be
excited have gone through the
waves program and be escorted by
someone.
Adam Curry: The waves program
you see everyone who goes in as
part of the White House, access
something restriction, whatever.
Obama put that in place,
everyone that we went through is
known.
Unknown: But it gets
interesting. Yeah, everyone who
works on the White House camp
PIs has to get a drug test
before they're ever eligible to
work there. And you're subjected
to random screenings. I actually
got one once after having kidney
stones and then tested positive
for the painkillers. I went on
and had to get medical records.
But
Adam Curry: why were you going
through that entrance? You know,
I think a lot of these people
all know about this, they go
through this entrance all the
time to get their briefings, not
the you know, not press
briefing, but actually from you
know, senior staffers, this is
what you're going to say. And
you'll tell us from sources
close to the matter. People
familiar with the President's
thinking here's your coke go
away
Unknown: long story short people
in those positions cannot be
doing drugs. Our adversaries
could exploit it. It's it's not
a small deal. I don't think did
it. So
the thing is, like cocaine gate.
We don't know who did this. I'm
thinking maybe it's a tourist. A
stupid tourist, I guess somebody
like that. Like
Adam Curry: she doesn't have
tees. This woman tourists.
John C Dvorak: I guess that's
that's what's her name? Yeah,
the x again, check the lawyer. A
Republican. No, no, no, this is
Anna. What's her name? No,
Adam Curry: it's not Anna. This
is the lawyer. No cane
Unknown: gate. We don't know who
did this. I'm thinking maybe
it's
Adam Curry: a story right? It is
Anna Anna Navarro who's on
ozempic.
Unknown: We don't know who did
this. I'm thinking maybe it's a
tourist a stupid tourists, I
guess some money like that. And
you've got to put your phone
there. He's got to put your bag
there. You gotta you gotta put
stuff there. And so somebody
just
Adam Curry: noticed notice the
absence of the term baggy,
Unknown: listen, marks down
everything you have to do to be
in that part of the White House.
I wonder why it seemed to be a
blind spot for a security
camera. We can't go to a
Broadway show. We can't go. We
can't fly without taking our
shoes off. Yet. You have this
very private part of the White
House and they don't have
cameras on the cubbyhole. I'm
surprised because they do have
peeping wrecks. When we talk
about the security problems.
They had the breaches the
warnings, and then you look at
the classified documents, again,
people on both parties having
them. There's some stuff that
needs to be tightened up ASAP.
When you're kids, you know those
cubbies where you put shoes when
your kids come in, that's what
these cubbies look like. Right?
So they're tiny, these cubbies?
So if you're taking your phone
out of your pocket, not that
I've brought anything into the
White House that I wouldn't like
seen. But if you're taking your
Yeah, and you put it in the
cubby and this, you there's no
way that they know it's 50 if
they have a video, whoever's in
cubby don't have a video. They
have it's a blind spot of
Beckham, I have to say no, that
hubby and there were cameras on
there. You'd know who was in
that lock
on the Hunter Biden of it
because of course it became
memes. And everyone's like, of
course, it's hunters. I don't
think there's any evidence that
Biden family wasn't there. I
think it's a bigger deal. If
it's a White House staffer,
though they are the ones who are
forbidden you're subject to
random drugs, drug screenings,
in security clearances, you're
not even eligible for a top
secret clearance if you've done
drugs in the last 10
Adam Curry: years. They know a
lot about it, but they don't use
the term baggie Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I'm now thinking
when I listen to this clip in
particular since that's a real
conduit for false or
disinformation show I'll say I
am pretty sure you know first I
was like Hunter Hunter as you
obviously as Hunter but they
kept moving the baggie back from
the library to the east wing or
to the West Wing library which
is okay start from the East Wing
went to the West Wing Dan went
to this entrance and then it
then all of a sudden is where
terrorists parks or car and
where Harris goes in and out
every day they brought that up
in that clip. They're trying to
be this was planted this was
done to besmirch Harris because
they don't want her even
thinking about running for
president are gonna this is
gonna happen we're gonna see
more and more bisb merging of
her I think that that read of
her saying the lower population
probably read that on the bright
off the prompter. She didn't
miss read pollution It was
written population.
Adam Curry: The whole right is
to discredit her as an moron.
cokehead Yep. I'm with you.
That'll be used later. Yeah,
you're right and
John C Dvorak: then there was a
we'll see more of this in other
words,
Adam Curry: I think so. I think
we will we will we will within
there's only one news report
that mentioned it that this is
and that was the ladies ladies
of the EU who mentioned that's
when
John C Dvorak: I get a note from
one of our producers saying from
I think he works there
somewhere. He says that the
rumor is it's her it's her coke.
He said the right I'm not
thinking that rumor is part of
the system to rumor her out
she's not getting they're not
going to take any chances with
this woman they're they're
afraid of her she please
Adam Curry: notice our producer
said the room Inte R u m i n t
which is rumor Intel. Yeah,
rumor intel that meet and of
course, which is made up as far
as I can tell. But that's
someone who's in the know.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree.
And that probably is the room is
probably saying it's her but
that doesn't mean it's not hers.
She's not being set up. We're
always have to be aware of this
setup, the misdirection and I
think that's what we're dealing
with.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Right.
Thank you. Right.
John C Dvorak: So she's she's a
target she's out. Gavin's got to
be cut. Cut off at the knees
too. He's no good they can do
it. I can let him get in this
RFK Jr. You watch you heard it
here first. Yeah, he is the
nominee.
Adam Curry: Yes. And then it's
amazing what he's saying and
what he's getting away with? No,
we actually we had a rare chat
about this after the show.
Because I want to make sure
everyone knows that as your idea
that that RFK Bobby The K is an
OP. And he and I if I'll
paraphrase your theory, which I
like the CIA is preparing to put
him in and it's a it's a mate
good. And the mate good goes
like this. Hey, man, we're sorry
about your dad. Sorry about your
uncle. I really suck. I know. I
know. We're gonna make good when
they let you be President. First
thing you got to do is go stop
this annoying Big Pharma dare
kill our job to kill people not
theirs. So you're gonna get rid
of them. There's a couple of
deep state people we want out
we're going to straighten some
stuff out. But you'll be our boy
that I paraphrase them correctly
is
John C Dvorak: part of it. Yeah,
I think that's it that
summarizes things they they need
to get back on track and that
ended pharma thing is out of
control. They got to pull those
that advertising thing Kennedy's
all in on that.
Adam Curry: And they've got the
military industrial complex is
also a pain on their ass. And I
think this latest released video
from Bobby The K which the New
York Post titled as RFK Jr. Says
COVID may have been ethnically
targeted to spare Jews, which is
not at all he said. What but I
so this was a a very noisy clip.
I pulled it through the Adobe
John C Dvorak: AI as a miracle
worker.
Adam Curry: Now, it didn't do
that great of a job.
Interestingly, it straightened
out his speech. See if I see
what you think and if that's
interesting, if you don't think
it's any good, I'll stop it
because it's still pretty noisy
but it's straighten out his
speech to a certain degree and
we need to talk about bio
weapons. Weapons because you
can't hear that at all. Can you
John C Dvorak: It's terrible.
What ended Adobe didn't get that
noise out of there. And
Adam Curry: let me see if it got
better here, hold on.
Unknown: Two and a half years
and
Adam Curry: now it doesn't work.
It doesn't work. You know,
John C Dvorak: I'll bet you his
speeches. So here's the problem.
Adobe looks for the tries to
find a vocal, it found it fixed
it was in the noise. And he
speaks with noise built into his
voice.
Adam Curry: I think the problem
is well there's one thing I
could try honestly, I think the
problem is because I'm pulling
it through my compressor. Let me
see if I turn the compressor
off. Let me see what happens on
one second. compressor off let's
see. And we need to talk about
bio weapons. Weapons because No,
it doesn't work at all. I don't
John C Dvorak: talk about bio
weapons. Yeah, we don't CIA is
all jacked up about what
Adam Curry: he's what he's
saying is he's saying there's
evidence from research that the
AC two receptors responded to
white people and black people
but spared Asians and Ashkenazi
Jews. And he says everyone is
making make a China. He says
we're the US we're making
genetically targeted bio
weapons. That's what he said.
Yeah, he didn't say ethnically
targeted despaired Jews. Which
is funny, but he didn't say
that. So, so your theory is I
like it and it's interesting
because I'm listening to you
know we got Magga everywhere
here this this is this is Maga
country What are you drinking?
John C Dvorak: Ah well this is
not going to get this anymore.
This is boo bleh Michael boob
Leigh Yes What do you think but
as bu bu ly was bubbling it up
with one
Adam Curry: that he promotes
that stuff he's he does.
John C Dvorak: Here's why I'm
not buying it anymore. And it
says unfiltered sparkling water
with electrolytes does have
aspartame as well. No just
electrolytes. It's gotta check
it out as calcium chloride and
potassium chloride which are two
salts and you know potassium
chloride is something that is
has people some some people have
issues with and it supposedly
add some tastes but I'd rather
buy mineral water which is
natural or just plain seltzer. I
don't want electrolytes in my
drink.
Adam Curry: No, I agree. It's no
good. Where was I? Oh, Bobby,
the K. So here Maga country? You
know, we talk we listen, we talk
to people. And that people you
know they DeSantis is out.
There's no There's no quick
question. Yes.
John C Dvorak: So I go to Costco
I go to especially someplace
like Monterey foods or some
crunchy places. And it's like
Monterey foods every 30% people
are wearing masks. Costco at
least one in 10. Like they're
gonna go the rest of their lives
wearing these stupid masks.
Adam Curry: I guess. I mean,
John C Dvorak: what do you got
there? You got anybody wearing
these masks at the Costco? No.
Adam Curry: We don't have
Costco. Here. We have heb if you
see anything, sometimes a
Mexican person. You might see
them with a mask.
John C Dvorak: They're going to
rob the place.
Unknown: Wow. Wow. Wow. So
John C Dvorak: the first thing
that goes
Unknown: with it casing the
joint. No, we love our Mexicans
here.
Adam Curry: So no, but this is
this is Maga country this is
what do you call it? Mom's for
Liberty country. This is people
who don't mess around. They they
love Trump. Trump's getting a
raw deal now. DeSantis no good.
Don't let that was it was a
little bit of DeSantis for a
minute for a moment there that
went away. You bring up Bobby to
K. And they are taking note. But
right now the only thing is
there's two things. There's two
push backs. One is he wants to
jail. All people who are anti
climate change. Yeah, but that's
kind of that's kind of been
debunked. Now it's at this
debunk
John C Dvorak: about there all
this stuff is going to come out
is going to be missed.
Misinformation misdirection.
That can be debunked. I had a
here's an interesting one. You
want me to if you don't mind? My
Oh, can I interject? I'm at
dinner. And I've got my RCA and
Brennan are seated and I bring
up they're all in on all the
Democrats stuff is unbelievable.
Adam Curry: Especially since
they came from your loins and
all the
John C Dvorak: trans stuff
they're all in
Adam Curry: no no this on them.
John C Dvorak: So just material
here, you're nuts. You're right.
Bring up the Bobby Kennedy and I
send they go on you guys a
crackpot do the whole thing.
Just all the stuff that you're
supposed to say? Yeah, I said
facts denier, and they're gonna
they're gonna go no, they don't
say that. But they say it
besides that Trump's gonna get
the nomination
Adam Curry: of the think is a
Republican.
John C Dvorak: I said, why? I
said you think he's a
Republican? RFK. Yeah, they both
in agreement? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Wow. And then I said, Are you
too nuts? He's a he's a Kennedy.
For one thing. He's a Democrat.
He's been born and raised the
days that he's part of the
democratic monarchy. Are you
kidding me? He's Democrat
royalty. Yeah. And so they both
pull out their phones. Both of
them at the same time. They got
their phones out.
Unknown: Oh, go go. Go. Go, go
go.
John C Dvorak: Almost
simultaneously, their jaws
dropped.
Adam Curry: No way.
John C Dvorak: He is a Democrat.
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. That's a
great story. Wow. It was
John C Dvorak: like Holy
mackerel. This is an interesting
app.
Adam Curry: This is a great app.
Hmm. So that's working very
well.
John C Dvorak: It's working
great. Who's ever running this
one? Well, it's work buddy.
Adam Curry: I'll tell you this
or gal If Trump becomes
president again, Bobby The K for
attorney general.
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah,
that'd be funny. But that but
Adam Curry: that would not be
the opposite would be to have
the Republicans vote for him.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what
the OP is, is to get the
Republicans who like Trump like
your Fredericksburg people to
take at least a look at Kennedy.
And then as time goes by is
going to be the way it works is
that you very soon roll off.
Yeah. When the mainstream turns
the other way, which they will
Adam Curry: well hold on. So
here's the news. DeSantis. We're
now having Ken Griffin he's the
billionaire the bit one of the
backers. He is quote
reconsidering his support for
DeSantis Murdoch has is now on
record as saying yeah, Ronnie's
not doing so well out in the
field. These guys if they start
backing Bobby The K off his arm.
So it would really only it would
only take it would only take a
small percentage of the of the
Maga people to turn and go to
Bobby The K Hmm. Anyway, the
other the other objection this
if I were advising Kennedy be to
have to work on this. The only
other objection I hear is yeah,
now it Kennedy. He's a
globalist.
John C Dvorak: Yes, this comes
up in the conversation then I
think he might be. Yeah, of
Adam Curry: course he is. Kelo.
It's all kinds of problematic
stuff with him. Absolutely. And
I said problematic.
John C Dvorak: That's okay. It
doesn't work doesn't bother me
as much as it bothers you.
Unknown: too. Good filler.
Adam Curry: I just want to do
quick boots on the ground
reports. We have a full time
driver for UPS anonymous, of
course, been with the company
for five years now ups, I think
they deliver something like 15%
of our entire GDP. UPS is a big
deal if they go on strike and
we've been talking about this,
but the news has dropped it
because you know, Coke baggy?
Yesterday, Friday are part time
supervisors on any shift and
full time supervisors were told
to get department of
transportation cards. Any
supervisor full or part time but
hasn't driven before is getting
orders to go to driving school
they are planning says the rumor
are if part and full time union
employees strike the pilots and
feeder drivers are striking to
fantasies of strike are becoming
a reality. There's a lot more to
this note. But I did just want
to point out that it seems like
that could actually happen. That
could cripple a lot.
John C Dvorak: So that may be
necessary to make sure Biden
doesn't run again. They may
actually be a necessary evil,
that we're all gonna have to
suffer through.
Adam Curry: Good one. Good one.
And then something that you
know, because
John C Dvorak: there has been
talk I should mention there has
been talked positive talk about
both the inflation rate is down
to 3%. Which of course is on top
of everything else. Yep. 3%. And
you know, they one guy literally
said on one of the I think it
was on a PBS or an NPR show he
said that is ruining the
Republicans talking points is
inflation thing. So you're gonna
do something despite the fact
that
Adam Curry: people are so broke,
they can't even donate to the
show tells me inflation is real
and is a real problem with the
economy. But yeah, if the if if
the media goes away for the
media decides to pull the rug on
that, oh, everything's great.
Because they don't make it real.
They make a truth then, well,
it's interesting. Meanwhile, if
you're in the United States of
America, may I humbly submit
that you take a look at your
school board your city council
and focus on that because the
President of the United States
is not Emperor is not King and
doesn't control everything?
That's the real psyop here your
local government your governor,
these are the things that are
important not the president we
shouldn't just being sigh opt
into talking about for the next
year and a half
Unknown: tired of it?
Adam Curry: And I'm gonna have a
heat report. Hate report. All
right. Let me see. Where's your
report? Oh, you have quite the
report actually. Do you want to
do Oh,
John C Dvorak: yeah, this short
though. Short. All right.
Adam Curry: Cool. All right.
What's what's up? Oh, heat
report. NPR.
Unknown: Here we go.
Temperatures in parts of the
Southwest are expected to top
120 degrees Fahrenheit this
weekend. There's even a chance
that forecasts are accurate that
Death Valley which currently
holds the record for the hottest
air temperature ever recorded on
the planet Earth at 134 degrees.
could see that record matched or
broken. Wow. I mean, just how
dangerous is this? It's
extremely dangerous for people
and wildlife study published
last week estimates that more
than 61,000 people died during
heat waves in Europe last year.
And we're looking at similar
temperatures there Right now, in
the US, you know, public health
officials are warning people to
limit activity outdoors and to
check up on neighbors,
especially elderly people, folks
with pre existing conditions.
And people that live in low
income areas who might not have
access to a C or to even shade.
Here's the director of
California Department of Public
Health, Dr. Tomas was briefing
yesterday,
the symptoms that we become more
concerned about is when your
internal core temperature starts
becoming elevated. So you may
develop a fever. It could be
impacting any organ, but the
organ that we become most
concerned about is when it
starts impacting your brain.
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness,
they're so happy in Holland. The
kids are back. It's beautiful
here. Nothing like Texas, but
it's nice. They get good at
memories. Well, they're alive,
their brain has not been
affected yet.
John C Dvorak: They haven't been
listening to NPR enough. Well,
no, of course
Adam Curry: not. I shield them
from that unlike whatever you
did to your kids. You let it
seep in
John C Dvorak: peer groups, I
can't do anything about it. Here
we go with heat report to
Unknown: so that when a person's
judgment could be compromised,
so they might not even recognize
that they're in a dangerous
situation or confused to take
the steps they need to die down.
I should add here to Scott that
public health officials warn
this applies to everyone. You
know, California looked at
deaths associated with a
heatwave in the state last year,
and found that many of the
people who died were younger
Latinos who were working
outdoors, or even physically fit
people who just did their
regular exercise routines like
going for hikes or runs, do
they?
Adam Curry: Do they warn anyone
in California but with this type
of heat, that you probably
shouldn't wear a mask outside
because that could impair your
breathing?
John C Dvorak: That is never
cropped up in the conversation.
Adam Curry: I think it's an
important point people should
know. I'm not going to argue I
think you're right. Let's
John C Dvorak: go with heat
report three.
Unknown: So average temperatures
on the planet have already
increased nearly two degrees
Fahrenheit, the industrial
revolution where we really
started adding co2 into the
atmosphere. Oh, yeah. And when
average temperatures go up, the
highs become higher as we're
seeing right now. The last eight
years were the hottest years on
record for the always
Adam Curry: this is pissing me
off.
John C Dvorak: How much can you
hear over and over? They keep
hounding us with this
information it's going part for
Unknown: preliminary data shows
that the first week of this
month of July was the hottest
the world has ever 1000s and
1000s and 1000s. And all these
records are expected to continue
to be broken as we continue to
release more fossil fuel
emissions into the atmosphere.
That's NPR state rot.
Adam Curry: Yeah, all right.
Yeah, yeah, no, I do have a
kicker. I
Unknown: have a kicker now
brother.
Adam Curry: You're gonna kick me
in gas with this stuff.
John C Dvorak: By the way,
10,000 years hottest ever had a
heat wave kicker
Unknown: much of the San
Francisco Bay area is under an
excessive heat warning this
weekend. Temperatures in some
cities are forecast to reach 106
degrees from member station KQED
azul Dahlstrom. Ekman has more
county officials throughout the
Bay Area are opening cooling
centers and directing people to
limit outdoor activities. Dial
hyung is a meteorologist with
the National Weather Service. He
says while many are accustomed
to the heat, it's important to
look out for the most vulnerable
in these situations
and to check on the elderly the
young, the sick and anyone else
who might the masks have a
elevated risk of heat related
illness.
The region is expected to see
cooling by Wednesday. The
heatwave is affecting much of
California. Luckily, the state's
power grid says it has adequate
reserves to keep the power on
whether we ever have a
John C Dvorak: power reserve
report did last time that was
was when Gray Davis was the
governor.
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna let
you get away with this divorce
duck because if you're going to
do this, I have to play my three
clips. My heat related clips and
these are all of John Kerry
watermelon head himself our
climate czar. Former
presidential candidate former is
the former senator is he still
listen Is he still Senator
John C Dvorak: knows nothing now
he's no he
Unknown: our climate czar
climate czar. being ripped a new
Adam Curry: orifice by Scott
Perry Representative Scott
Perry. Then it was just
enjoyable to see this douche
knuckle
Unknown: squirm.
Adam Curry: Let's start off with
let me see what is number one
here. The clip number one is
concerning the amount of Scioto
secretary
Unknown: in 2015 At the Paris
Climate Conference, you said
that if all industrial nations
go to zero emissions, it
wouldn't be enough. And then at
the White House is climate day
in January of 21, you said
almost 90% of the planet's
emissions come from outside the
US, we could go to zero
tomorrow, and the problem isn't,
isn't solved. And in April 21,
you told The Washington Post
that even the US and China going
to zero emissions tomorrow won't
solve the climate problem. Then
in April 21, you said that
global net zero is not enough
and that co2 must be removed
from the atmosphere? How much is
the correct amount of co2? Let
me explain to you if I can say
you understand exactly what I
said. That's close. But it's not
quite exactly what I was saying.
When I say what, let me tell you
what it says, I'm going to tell
you what the here's how it
works. Because we have put, I'd
forget the exact number of tons,
millions of tons of co2 and
other greenhouse gases are now
in the atmosphere, they're
there. And every day, we're
adding more. And so every day
the heat is going up. And we
have to figure out how we're
going to, you know, tame the
monster here. The only way to do
that is to reduce emissions on
an ongoing basis to get control
and the current level of
emissions that we have created,
but was then but actually
sucked, sir. With all due
respect. You've been through
this for what is the correct
amount? I don't want to spend a
bunch of time about a history
lesson about things that people
don't care about.
Adam Curry: No, of course, he
had no correct amount. I love
this. When what is the correct
temperature for the earth? What
is the correct amount of co2?
There's no answer from these
dishes. Let's blame it on the
humans, though. What changes
Unknown: every day? I can't tell
you directly without changing.
Yes, it does. So Secretary, you
probably know that for
approximately 200 million years.
What's What's the parts per
million now? That 400? Right.
Can we agree over 400? All
right, so that 400 million years
2000 parts per million? Did
mother nature get it wrong for
200 million years? Here's the
difference, Congressman, the
difference is yes, there were
Matt, there are periods which
all the scientists who deal with
climate acknowledge that there
have been moments on the planet,
which is billions of years old,
in which there were greater heat
and there was great, I mean, the
difference quickly I've got a
difference is human beings.
That's the difference all human
1000 years old, but but during
these periods of time, where it
was 2000 parts per million. life
existed as a matter of fact, not
people, not human beings walking
around the lowest periods of
carbon in the atmosphere, and
not only recorded history in the
history of life existing on the
planet, in December of 2022, you
told The Washington Post, we
need to remove 1.6 trillion tons
of carbon dioxide from the
atmosphere via direct air
capture the cost for that as
about $1,000 per tonne, or 1.6
quadrillion dollars. Now I said
you said you didn't know. But
since 2015, since the last time
Lenio, about 500 billion tons
have been have been emitted into
the atmosphere during that same
period of time. 2015. If you
look at the temperature graph,
this is from NOAA, the
temperature has gone down to the
next slide. This is from NASA
satellite data, temperature has
gone down.
Adam Curry: So he's just gonna
hound him on the 1.6 quadrillion
dollars, you
Unknown: want to have the have
the American taxpayers, my
constituents that are having a
hard time afford their
groceries, pay for a car, buy a
new home spent 1.6 quadrillion
dollars to fix a problem that he
doesn't exist. And as a matter
of fact, you might be
exacerbating because it's
unknown. It is unknown at this
time, the low level that of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
that might actually destroy
life. Because plant life all
depends, as you know, Secretary
plant life all depends on co2.
And when we kill it, then we're
done too. I yield the balance
carbon. Let me just say that. I
don't agree with what you're
saying out there for any number
of reasons. I don't have time to
go into all of that. But I just
tell you that the difference
between the periods you're
looking at in terms of heat
cetera and human human input is
night and day. Number one,
number two, why do you think 195
countries in the world their
prime ministers their president
because they're grifting? Like
you are sir. Yeah. This that's
pretty shocking
statement that you believe who
is the scientists in the
Adam Curry: world? This is
Representative Scott Perry.
Let's hear that one again.
Unknown: Because their Prime
Minister's their president
because they're grifting like
you are sir.
Oh, that's pretty good. Fight
towards you
believe that all the scientists
in the world are all not all
scientists agree with you, Mr.
98% of all the science and
science isn't about agreement.
It's not about consensus. You
know, that Chair now
John C Dvorak: recognizes Mr.
Feuless McCormack well that was
an excellent clip that was a
good guy, right? Like yeah, we
got to follow him. Yeah. And on
his mailing list
Adam Curry: he's a grifter like
all of them.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Guess
the bully explanation I can come
up with it's all
Adam Curry: a big grift don't
fall for it people. But don't
wear a mask outside either in
the summer and have show mixes
we have the fabulous Sir Chris
Wilson answer seat sitter
actually was cool. Chris Wilson,
who did the Google song it's
starseed sitter does the Q anon
man both
John C Dvorak: classic Q anon
Mansur grace,
Adam Curry: both of the classic
end of show mixes we appreciate
them. And coming up next bowls
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everybody I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and for Northern
Silicon Valley where at least
this is not hot this guy
actually quite tempered is
perfect around at least where I
am I'm Jhansi Dvorak
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mofos who ends
Unknown: a lot of surprises
Melissa
but I just want to put something
in perspective of the world
cannot live without Google we
can't live without Facebook but
Google is part of the fabric
oxygen of the internet
Adam Curry: this is completely
disturbing we can't live we
can't live without can easily
live without Google
Unknown: know I can forget this
evening when I spend my time
just being and oh my wasted life
on data I showed you
will face back saying tomorrow
you know what but we'll all be
better off if it works
again
I can I can being in
a mall
John C Dvorak: being by the way
does work. You don't need Google
necessarily the one you can't
live without and I've written
about this too is Amazon
Unknown: it's the ninth of
December 2019 to big report
drops any minute there's so much
excitement on fuel the
indictment is can't wait to see
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big report dropped suddenly. And
Russia was solid and I've left
his show. bar bar by bar another
retired.
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of love for eternity. So we
never rise up above you either
out Sean Brennan may be the law
any clapper Mayo is running free
because we still might get paid
but we'll all be good slaves
because you will always be bad
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to bring us along Mr. Man tell
us to trust the plan because
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