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June 18th, 2023 • 2h 59m

1565: CL0P

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Adam Curry: We love you. Adam curry, John C. Dvorak June
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18 2023 This is your award winning nation media
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assassination episode 1565 This is no agenda. Hotez Smackdown
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and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country
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here in Samaria number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam
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curry
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John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where we had a 10
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cars suffer from Chelsea divorce
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Adam Curry: Wow an early morning Zephyr report Who would have
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expected that that's a fantastic that's a great way to kick off
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the show
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John C Dvorak: it was an eight cars effort with two private
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cars in the back and Baja father's days
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Adam Curry: father's father's day special
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John C Dvorak: and the two cars the back were a like a sleeper
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and a observation vistadome car that were so pretty. Cream and
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chrome oh it was like you go look at this and compared to the
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rest of the train you go what happened to design in this
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country? Oh my God
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Adam Curry: I am so happy for you Happy Father's Day.
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Unknown: Happy Father's Day to you.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, did you get did you get Father's Day gifts?
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You get to tweet text anything?
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Unknown: Yeah, I got it. I got this
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Adam Curry: you actually got tweets. Oh yeah. Boy they know
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daddy. Well don't they give the old man this keep busy for
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hours.
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Unknown: Then they found this
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Adam Curry: what is that?
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Unknown: Turkey call
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Adam Curry: now do you blow on that or is that electronic?
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John C Dvorak: No you it's a two handed operation you used to you
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slam it was your fist you know about that?
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Adam Curry: I do now yeah. Oh, excellent. So nice. My
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John C Dvorak: favorite. Is this the chicken thing? Is this thing
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though. The little squawk at the end? It's cartoony? Yes. Good
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kids don't do that. No
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Adam Curry: they do a little bit like that. Okay, all right,
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everybody there you go. This is the best podcast in the
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universe. And now you know why? Man something cool happened last
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night.
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Unknown: That I pray tell ya.
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Adam Curry: So on I think it was was it's Friday. I think Joe
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Rogan had JFK Jr. on his podcast. And for about the first
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two hours, he just railed on vaccines and went into into
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depths I'd forgotten we've deconstructed most of this. But
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you know how how they really work and and how the schedule is
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increased and legality of it. And of course, he knows about
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all this because he sued many of these companies. And it was
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interesting because Joe started off with a whole like five
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minute monologue like a soliloquy about he always
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thought that, you know, JFK Jr. was an anti Vaxxer a kook a nut
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job, tinfoil hat wear and dude until he read his book about
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Anthony Fauci. And so this just went on and it was beautiful. On
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and on, and on and on. And yeah, he says all kinds of stuff like,
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you know, we should ban advertisement of farm on
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television, and I mean, really stuff that we pretty much would
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agree with. And then now Joe never goes on Twitter. I think
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he whatever he does, he does Instagram and then whatever he
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posts on Instagram, it gets reposted on Twitter, and Hotep
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Hotez. Now, our friend up there in North Texas. He starts going
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off, you know, typical Twitter, like, Oh, look at these look at
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these to spreading misinformation about vaccines.
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And so Joe pops on the Twitter and says, Hey, Peter Hotez. He's
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been on his show to hotel, hotel, hotels, Hotez. He says, I
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will donate $100,000 to the charity of your choice. If you
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come in and debate, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. had no time limit.
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And all hotels will do her own hemming and hawing. And then now
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people are you know, there's people throwing 100 grand on top
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of that, and it's like $800,000 hotels, it's like, well, you
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know, I'll come on I'll talk to you but you can talk to
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misinformation guy. He won't do it.
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John C Dvorak: Nobody will debate makalah they won't bait
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debate Malone. They won't debate anybody, this whole group of
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people and Hotep is one of the top of the group OPERS. Yeah,
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they will not talk about it. They have their spiel. And they
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don't want to talk about it. That's it. No, no debate. It's
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like sciences. And
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Adam Curry: it's like, checkmate. It's really
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fantastic. Now, I doubt that the M five M will do anything with
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this, because we, we don't let anybody know about this. But
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it's pretty, it's pretty vital right now. So very, very
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interesting. situation. I liked it a lot. I thought it was very
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funny. And I And I'll say this about that. RFK RFK saying, I
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think we should ban pharma advertising. Actually, I have
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the clip, well listen to the clip. And I'll say, I'll say
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this about that,
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Unknown: oh, you know, ambitions have completely subsumed the
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regulatory function of those agencies. And that has, and, you
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know, one of the things that we need to do, too, is the
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pharmaceutical advertising on television, there's only two
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countries in the world that allow it on his New Zealand, the
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other is our country, everybody who is knowledgeable is against
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it. It not only has compromised, you know, has compromised public
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health, we now we take largely because of that advertising, we
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take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans
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take. And drugs are the number three killer in our country,
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pharmaceutical drugs, the number three killer after cancer and
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heart attacks. They're not making us healthier, we have we
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spend more on health care, or point 3 trillion than any
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country in the world. And we have the worst health impacts.
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And we're behind like Mongolia, Costa Rica, Cuba, in terms of
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our health outcomes, all of these drugs, the pharmaceutical
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industry is not making us safer, safer, it's not making us
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healthier. And you know, we changed the rule in 1990 97.
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Prior to 1997, like cigarettes and liquor, you couldn't
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advertise on TV, we changed those rules. And FDA allowed the
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pharmaceutical companies to advertise and they not only now
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have a platform from which they can tell everybody you're safe.
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You need this, you need that. But also, they are able to
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dictate content on television, so they can dictate content on
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the you know, on the local and
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Adam Curry: on YouTube. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Not much new here
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for for the no agenda listener, obviously. But as it comes to,
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you know, we always vote independent. We don't we don't
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vote for any of the parties. We can't it's I mean, I can't even
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bring myself to do it and too bad. He's running as a Democrat.
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Because as a single issue, voter, I guess, if I were one of
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those, it would so it would help so much. It relates to
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everything and relates to trans Maoism. It relates to children
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being morons. It relates to education, it relates to
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probably to mass murder, you know, children going nuts with
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guns, it relates to adults being idiots it relates relates to so
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much, just that one move, you said it yourself would probably
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solve some things in America. You know, forget all the all the
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stuff that all the other candidates say this might
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actually affect something. And I guess somewhere he said he would
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issue an executive order to do it if he was president. I don't
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know if he can. I don't know if he can do that. I believe he'd
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be sued immediately. I mean, that would be freedom of speech,
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all kinds of First Amendment issues, I'm sure. But at least
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someone's bringing attention to it. Which is kind of cool.
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Unknown: Yeah. Besides us.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, yeah, but it's finally
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John C Dvorak: finally the media is not going to do it because
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it's too much money. They're getting too much cash. Yeah,
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it's just corrupted the whole system. That's the real issue.
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zactly
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Adam Curry: Well, and that's another thing that came out this
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morning. shockwave through TV Land. This is the Netherlands
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now the Netherlands is interesting. Because very
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western very liberal country. They have an interesting media
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mix of state controlled propaganda, but also commercial
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television. And this was the the big story this morning headlines
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from the media analysts as the ratings came out. Everything's
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flopping there. For the past three days, the television
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ratings in the Netherlands have never been lower ever before.
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less than 13% of the country watched any television at all.
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And And then the state channel three had a zero had zero people
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watching it yesterday. This something happening here. This
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switch is coming and it's happening everywhere. You know
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it's happening you know in Australia seeing it NOW.
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Headline ABC is quiet revolution behind sackings as viewers
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switch off TV tune into tick tock. I'm not saying it's all
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good, what's happening, but at least they're moving away from
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the mainstream, which is just dribble and poison, and just
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nothing good. And that's probably why, you know, the
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politicians are so freaked out about exactly about tick tock
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and other places, then Elon Musk with his always free speech.
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Because they don't they don't control the message their
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messaging system is breaking. It really is.
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John C Dvorak: Well, still better than any other one
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source.
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Adam Curry: What do you mean?
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John C Dvorak: I will? Well, there's no I mean, there. If you
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take all the podcasts and you do all his you know, it's very
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distributed. Yeah. And as opposed to one network TV show
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that can bring in 30 million people.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that's the that's the show.
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John C Dvorak: I watched I was watching. Oh, a n. Yes. What
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American Woman Yeah. And the one woman is the kind of over made
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up, pretty girl. Who's on?
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Adam Curry: That's everyone on that channel. Which one is
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which?
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John C Dvorak: One in particular? She had the America
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shaman on for his first interview.
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Adam Curry: Oh, did you got any clips?
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John C Dvorak: No, I just was on this morning. I was watching you
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just before the show. Oh, and the guy is a star.
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Adam Curry: He's let me let me guess he really has a great rap.
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John C Dvorak: Besides having a sounds a little like, like a
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surfer guru. He's got a terrific rap. A tremendous personality.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, was he? What did he look like? Did he have
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the hat on the helmet?
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John C Dvorak: No. Now he's got a bald head. Oh, and a Taliban
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beard. Jacob Chancellor. Yeah, Chancellor. He's got a bald
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head. He was wearing a suit and a bald head in it and a Taliban
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beard. Night he's a charmer Oh, and
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Adam Curry: what was the main what was what was the main
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message is this story
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John C Dvorak: a story by getting thrown in the slammer
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the racist black a guards that were trying to you know, beat
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him up every chance they could because he was the supposedly
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white supremacist. He just had funny stories to tell and he but
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he was I there's one clip I didn't have to go back and get
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because it was so funny. She asked him a bunch of government
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questions and he his response to her was just priceless because
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he was questions he couldn't answer because there was there
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was a gag order on this one line of questioning it seems he
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couldn't say that either. But he did like this triple take and
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then he and he just said something that he says no
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comment in a very funny way. And good good. He is really good he
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said he's he pays starting a website a podcast Get over
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yourself perfect but what he needs is a Hollywood agent.
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Adam Curry: If see I disagree this is no longer necessary.
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Rogan will probably pick him up and it truly podcasts are the
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last bastion of free speech and people are selecting their own
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little you know whatever they
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John C Dvorak: understand your position there's though you say
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it over and over again. But he if he had an agent he would
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really blossom
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Adam Curry: i disagree and the reason I know you do but I'm
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just telling you what I think I know but I'm but I'm trying to
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lead into a clip but you keep interrupting me when I disagree.
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Unknown: Doing it right yeah.
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Adam Curry: Wow. Should I do that and to signal to you that I
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have a clip
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John C Dvorak: Oh, I don't know. If you're gonna be if it begins
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with a disagreement that creates an argument. Okay, how about
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that? It's gonna be tough.
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Adam Curry: Let's try it again. Oh, I agree with your position
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from your standpoint. But let me play a clip Spotify
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Unknown: is moving on from Prince Harry and Duchess Megan
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to streaming services not renewing their podcast. Both
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sides say they've mutually agreed to part ways ending their
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estimated $25 million deal. The podcast ran for only 12 episodes
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beginning last summer.
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Adam Curry: The whole Spotify thing is falling apart. They
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invested a billion dollars. They've now fired almost
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everybody they Aqua hired. They're getting ready to read
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every single big contract. All of the Obamas are gone.
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Everyone's gone. The only one left is Joe then I don't know
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what he Joe probably had a smart deal. The whole thing didn't
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work. The Influencers don't work. The celebrities don't
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work. No one cares anymore.
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John C Dvorak: You argue with me you're saying podcast is the
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answer. And that's a podcasting operation. Oh,
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Adam Curry: under no, those were exclusives. It was not a
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podcasting operation. Their exclusive you couldn't get them
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anywhere you get your podcasts. You see. You couldn't get the
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Obamas on any podcast app. You couldn't get Meghan Markel. You
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had to go to Spotify. That's the point. The Hollywood system
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broke. No one cares. No one cares. They care about us. I
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think kind of a little bit. Some people
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John C Dvorak: a few was saying that no one cares.
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Adam Curry: Because watching that they're not interested.
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John C Dvorak: Here's what I think. No, it was crappy model.
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It was yes. Stupid. Yes. It violated the principles of
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podcasting. Yes, it's
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Unknown: Hollywood model you and me on now.
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Adam Curry: It's a Hollywood model. That's my point.
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John C Dvorak: I don't think it's necessarily a Hollywood
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model is a book publishing model. It's a publishing
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Adam Curry: model. You can get your books anywhere. You can get
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books on Amazon, you're only one publisher? No, it's they had to
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distribution. It's not just the publishing they wanted to
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constrict the distribution. You're not gonna argue with the
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pod father. Seriously. Are you now?
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John C Dvorak: No, I there's a flaw in your thinking. What's
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the flaw?
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Adam Curry: Okay, accepted. There's a flaw and we don't know
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what it is. They followed the Hollywood model. They hired
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Hollywood people to do a Hollywood thing where it's only
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Oh, we have it all. You have to come to us to get it. That was
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the flaw. That's the law. I'm
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John C Dvorak: not gonna say that's not a huge flaw. It's a
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mess. Yeah, but the bigger question, is there going to be
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any Neumann mics available?
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Adam Curry: I sure hope so. You know what, if there's anyone
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within Spotify, we'd love to pick up a couple of cheap
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Neumann mics we really and maybe, you know, I'm sure they
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got some other gear. What else could we get from them? They
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probably
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John C Dvorak: probably have some nice mixers. I
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Adam Curry: bet you they got some good chairs. Sure. The
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chairs together. Yes, exactly. All right. Now the other big
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news. I mean, just it just was nonstop, non stop. Finally, the
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cyber pandemic has arrived.
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Unknown: Tonight senior government officials are racing
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to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling
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potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent
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history. American targets include multiple federal
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agencies, including the Department of Energy, plus Johns
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Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida, Georgia's
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statewide university system and the Minnesota Department of
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Education. British Airways was also hit. Officials say the
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hackers are part of a cyber criminal gang called clop call
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me to operate from inside Russia.
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We've started already seeing some of the data that was stolen
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as part of their work to date. These companies we strongly
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encourage anyone who is a user of this software to of course
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patch locked down their systems,
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the cyber criminals are exploiting a software program
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called Move it which companies and government agencies to
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transfer data including personal information, the group steals
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the data and in this message believed to be from the hackers
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warns that if a ransom is not paid, after seven days, all your
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data will start to be published sometimes on the dark web. Cyber
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expert Brent callow says foreign adversaries and criminals will
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be looking to leverage the data
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overseas governments will no doubt be very interested in
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obtaining the information or clop obtained through these
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Adam Curry: Okay, couple things here first of all, clop clop
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believed to be operating from Russia
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Unknown: messages clear
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Adam Curry: clip Yeah. So we got clop and then there's this
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program called Move it now there's something missing from
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the reporting here. The spate really this move it stuff from
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what from what it looks like to me, you upload your files, their
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encrypted 256, hash, hash, whatever, you know, the above,
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on any one possibility, one of the many possibilities and it
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probably works a bit like we transfer or whatever and so what
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these companies are saying there was a data breach, but then how
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do they know that these it's not your typical ransomware it's not
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they haven't locked up computers it kind of you know, the
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reporting borderlines on that. But they say no, you know, if
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you don't pay us money, no mention of how much or how you
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You're supposed to pay it. Usually they throw in Bitcoin.
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Yeah, that has been basically mentioned missing from the
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missing from them from the
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Unknown: recording is terrible. And that's a harridge.
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Adam Curry: But you know, so did they show somebody something
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because they Oh, if you don't pay us, we're gonna start
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leaking your information, maybe even on the dark web. So what
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exactly? How do they know this? I mean, this is not an intrusion
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into networks. This is a service. It's not as far as I
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could tell. It is not a piece of software. It is it is a service
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that people use. And of course, these guys got a government
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approval. So all governments Whoa, sounds like a good idea.
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Let's put it all on encrypted on AWS, or whatever they're using.
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Okay. Yeah. You know, and everyone's jumping on board now
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from Fox eight.
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Unknown: This is a special report. Good morning, I'm
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listening as we interrupt your programming to bring you this
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breaking news from Homeland Security officials in Baton
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Rouge after a massive data breach impacting all
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Louisianians, especially those which Louisiana licenses, let's
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listen, let's listen in
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breaking governmental entities and organizations around the
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world. Move it is a third party data transfer service that is
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widely used to send large files. And it is at the center of this
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very sophisticated breach very sophisticated. You've probably
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already heard other national news reports about major
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businesses and organizations dealing with this as well.
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Yesterday morning, Governor Edwards held a unified command
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group meeting in which he was briefed on the newly discovered
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scale of this attack involving office of motor vehicle data.
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Oh, no, he then felt it was imperative that we get this
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information out to the public immediately so that folks could
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take proactive measures. To be clear, we believe that all
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Louisianians with a state issued driver's license ID or car
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registration likely had data compromised.
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Adam Curry: Now what does that mean? I mean, this this is, this
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seems asinine. I don't even think this is not even related.
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This I think that Joel Oh, you know, it was just throw this in
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there. I'd love to know if any of our producers out there have
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used move it and what it does exactly, but this whole thing
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Unknown: stinks. like it'd be much different than Dropbox.
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Adam Curry: I wouldn't think so. But it this whole thing stinks.
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This doesn't make any sense. And the Department of Energy, or
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whatever they do with the Department of Department of
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Energy doesn't run your electricity. They don't they
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don't they don't do that. So okay, so what did they have just
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a government website? Did they get some important documents
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from Granholm? I can tell you what they say. More hydrogen.
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Now, it's not that hard to imagine. What
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John C Dvorak: was the thing about the DT what DMV records?
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What difference does it make? Exactly?
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Take take I actually I think, you know, this is and by the
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way, this was an evolutionary reporting. Yes. At first, when
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it first came out. It was well blob. Oh, it's nuts into it. And
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it's not Russia. We checked on that it's not Russia, then all
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of a sudden became a flop as Russia claw Russia, but not
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Russia now. But now it's not the Russian government. So we know
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it's not the Russian government. Squat. clop clop I think, and
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they've ended and the real thing that stands out like a sore
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thumb to me. Is Johns Hopkins. Yes. spook. Out of the blue is
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this this this this John, what and what other universities were
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hacked? This is one of those stories you see where 30 people
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are killed so they can execute one guy and it gets lost in the
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shuffle. I think John Hopkins was a target for some reason.
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And the rest of his all smoke screen just so we don't get we
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don't start noticing Johns Hopkins.
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Adam Curry: I like it makes a lot of sense.
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John C Dvorak: And what did they get from Johns Hopkins? That's
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what we need to know.
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Adam Curry: Well, we're not you probably
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John C Dvorak: have to tell us if it's kind of a front for the
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intelligence groups any one of them. There's got to be
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information that is come to light.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the way it's played in the mainstream US
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Department of Energy got ransom requests. Oh, I have I have a
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ransom request for you. Excuse me. Thank you, Mister request. I
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can't pay this. Sorry. Okay. Well, it was only a request
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don't take it seriously. From the Russia linked extortion
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group. Now it's an extortion In group Klop extortion group at
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both its nuclear waste facility and scientific education
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facility that were recently hit in a global hacking campaign.
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See, these are all words that are all data was compromised at
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the to DOE entities after hackers breached their systems
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through a security. So this is different, did they they breach
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their systems. But what are they in the network? After they they
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breach their systems through a security flaw in the File
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Transfer Tool, move it to transfer. The software is widely
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used by organizations around the world to share sensitive data
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that you used it? No, I've never even heard of it. We use SFTP
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Well, I'm not I'm not an organization. Just a dude.
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John C Dvorak: Do we know that it's widely used? I've never
25:58
heard of it either. From the
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Adam Curry: US government department to the UK telecom
26:03
regulator and energy giant shell energy energy. A range of
26:08
victims has emerged since Burlington Massachusetts based
26:11
progress software found the security flaw in its move it
26:14
transfer product last month,
26:17
Unknown: last month, last month
26:20
Adam Curry: now, but now the wide ranging impact of it shows
26:23
how even the most security minded federal agencies are
26:26
struggling to defend against ransomware attacks. Ransomware
26:30
gangs typically scour for such widely used
26:33
John C Dvorak: tools. This is conflating two stories.
26:37
Ransomware we know how that works? Yeah, it doesn't work
26:41
through move it.
26:42
Adam Curry: Yeah. But here's a little here's a little more
26:45
interesting. Here we go. The Ransom requests. Ransom
26:50
John C Dvorak: isn't a ransom request is not the same as
26:52
ransomware.
26:54
Adam Curry: But it's also rented would be a ransom demand. Not a
26:57
request. Yeah, ransom.
26:59
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Do you agree?
27:00
Adam Curry: They demanded ransom. Oh, they requested why
27:03
are they using the word request? The Ransom requests to the
27:07
Department of Energy came in emails to each facility said the
27:10
spokesperson without revealing how much money was demanded what
27:13
what kind of request is that? They came in individually, not
27:21
as kind of a blind carbon copy. Oh, was targeted email. The two
27:26
entities that received them did not engage with clop. And there
27:30
was no indication the ransom requests were withdrawn. Now
27:34
that goes straight into the Department of Energy, which
27:36
manages US nuclear weapons and nuclear waste sites related to
27:41
the military. Yeah, they do a lot more than that. But okay.
27:45
They talk about battery cars notified Congress of the breach
27:49
and is participating in investigation with law
27:50
enforcement and the Cisar says ha, oh club did not respond to
27:55
requests for comment. But in a post, but in a post on its
27:58
website, wait a minute, club has a website?
28:02
Unknown: Do they have a spokesperson?
28:04
Adam Curry: Well, they Well, they didn't respond to requests
28:07
for comments. They must have a pr@clop.org I guess. The posts
28:14
on his website. It said yeah, it said all caps. We don't have a
28:19
god you don't have any government data. God do a
28:23
Russian voice and suggested that should the hackers inadvertently
28:27
have picked up such data in their mass theft. We still do
28:30
the polite thing and delete all
28:33
John C Dvorak: their polite side is this. Hackers are these Oh
28:42
wow. This is a scam
28:45
Adam Curry: Recorded Future analyst Alan Liska said clop was
28:49
likely making a big deal out of how they purportedly deleted
28:52
government data in an attempt to protect themselves from
28:54
retaliation from Washington and other governments. This is horse
28:59
crap. Like massive loads of it too. Now, I don't the whole
29:07
thing with bullet
29:08
John C Dvorak: point again, I shot again, Johns Hopkins. This
29:11
shows up as the sore red flag on this.
29:15
Adam Curry: Let's just listen one more time to the witch
29:18
school. It was
29:19
Unknown: knights senior government officials are racing
29:21
to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling
29:25
potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent
29:28
history. American targets include multiple federal
29:31
agencies, including the Department of Energy, plus Johns
29:35
Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida
29:38
Adam Curry: affiliated hospitals, affiliated hospitals
29:41
in Maryland. So
29:42
Unknown: Georgia's statewide university system,
29:45
Maryland and Florida.
29:50
Adam Curry: Maryland. I don't that's interesting. I mean,
29:56
there's a lot more they don't mention any of the other one.
30:00
one's there. Here we go Johns Hopkins what we do? That's a
30:05
children's hospital I think in St. Petersburg, Florida. Yep, I
30:13
don't know. The whole thing is weird. And I was hoping it would
30:16
fit into Klaus, you know, we all know,
30:19
Unknown: but still pay insufficient attention
30:23
insufficient. Is there a frightening scenario of a
30:26
comprehensive cyber attack, which would bring to a complete
30:31
halt to the power supply? Transportation, hospitals
30:37
services, our society as a whole. Oh, by 19 crisis would be
30:44
seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison to a
30:51
major cyber attack, to use COVID-19 guises as a timely
30:59
opportunity to reflect on the lessons cybersecurity community
31:06
can draw and improve our preparedness for potential cyber
31:12
pandemic.
31:14
Adam Curry: It could just be a beginning of a setup create a
31:16
bit of tension like Oh, everywhere. Oh, I got my
31:19
driver's license who? Oh, gum Hill. Yeah, something like that.
31:28
That by coincidence, if there is such a thing, President Obama
31:32
was on The X Files podcast. You know, David Axelrod, his
31:38
handler, does the X Files for CNN Podcast Network. And they
31:45
were talking about the digital ID I think, in in a backhanded
31:50
way.
31:50
Unknown: This is disruptive for our economy. They're even close
31:53
to the issues we were talking about before. In terms of
31:55
misinformation, disinformation, fakes. I've seen a few of
32:01
you. Yes, I've told people because I was the first digital
32:06
president when I left office as probably the most recorded
32:09
filmed photograph human in
32:12
Adam Curry: women. Is that a moniker he was given the first
32:16
digital president? Not that I recall, I think it was Bill
32:20
Clinton, who helped get the Bill Clinton was the
32:23
Unknown: first black president. Sorry, you're
32:28
I've seen I've seen a few of you. Yes. I've told people
32:32
because I was the first digital president when I left office as
32:35
probably the most recorded filmed photograph human in
32:39
history, which is kind of a weird thing. Yes.
32:42
Adam Curry: Human not out human in history.
32:45
Unknown: A human human really.
32:48
Adam Curry: You don't sweat Barak know if you're human
32:51
Unknown: in history, which is kind of a weird thing. Yes. I
32:53
just the odds are that I was as consequence,
32:56
Adam Curry: the odds are that I this is aggrandizement on quite
33:00
a scale the odds are that I was just don't argue with me acts
33:03
just handle me.
33:05
Unknown: Yes, I just the odds are that I was as consequence,
33:09
there's a lot of raw material there. So usually, all the
33:12
defects start with like some version of Obama doing something
33:15
dancing, saying, dirty limericks are some version
33:19
John C Dvorak: of Obama. Is that what he said? Yeah, he's seeing
33:23
himself in the third person. Yes,
33:25
Adam Curry: of course. The you know, Obama, the personal
33:29
version of Obama. Yeah. By the way, that didn't work. Those
33:32
weren't deep fakes. We just the people just edited your audio
33:35
book in a different order. We remember the Obama deep fakes
33:41
now, just all the swear words all the cuss words you put in
33:44
your audio book people put them together was hilarious. Not a
33:47
deep fake. Not a deep fake.
33:49
Unknown: There's plenty of those not a deep fake misusing the
33:53
term Yes.
33:54
Usually all the defects start with like some version of Obama
33:58
doing something dancing, saying dirty limericks are.
34:04
Adam Curry: Right, there was plenty of you dancing, Mr.
34:06
President,
34:07
Unknown: that technology is here now.
34:10
Adam Curry: That technology is here now. Most immediately,
34:14
Unknown: we're going to have all the problems we had with
34:17
misinformation before this next election cycle will be worse.
34:23
Adam Curry: Okay, so now we need to do something about a problem
34:26
reaction
34:27
Unknown: and the need for us, for the general public, I think
34:32
to be more discriminating consumers of news and
34:36
information, the need for us to over time develop technologies
34:42
create watermarks or digital fingerprints so we know what is
34:47
true and what is not true
34:49
Adam Curry: digital fingerprints. That sounds like a
34:53
digital ID to me. Yeah.
34:58
Unknown: He's talking about
34:59
Adam Curry: Well, no, he doesn't but
35:00
John C Dvorak: then there's so much on Biden that they, you
35:04
know, just him. No, I have tons of clips.
35:06
Adam Curry: Let's do some but I have let's do some Biden AI.
35:11
Unknown: Well, I do have a bite. You have a Biden AI? No.
35:13
Adam Curry: You said you got clips. I mean, Biden. I
35:15
John C Dvorak: got clips but I also have one Biden AI.
35:18
Adam Curry: No, I have no Biden AI.
35:20
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. Well, I have this. I figured that, you
35:22
know, he's bringing up these. This is a I think it's a salvo.
35:27
So he sends it out. You know, we're gonna have a lot of fake
35:30
stuff going on. But no, but the Biden stuff is all real. It's
35:32
real. There is a fake one that they tried to push out which
35:35
it's kind of funny. It's Biden and Trump debating this is the
35:39
try Biden column Biden clear caulk fake caucus so massive. I
35:45
mean, it is possibly the biggest cock I have ever seen it.
35:47
Unknown: respond very quickly, and then I'll get to my
35:49
question.
35:49
Why did he he's been saying this caucus massive for four years.
35:53
Show us just show us stop playing around.
36:02
Adam Curry: It's lewd, it's lewd. Therefore. It's just a
36:04
borderline but man. He got me with that one. I had not heard
36:09
that one. You were familiar? No, I'm not familiar with the
36:13
cockfight? No, that is massive. Yeah, you should stop. Just stop
36:19
talking about it. Show it already. Yeah. This is This is
36:23
America. This is what we do with technology. We're not gonna
36:26
we're not going to try and fake you. We're gonna make you laugh.
36:30
And no one's falling for it. Oh, oh, man. I think they're really
36:34
talking about that. What do you think? I won 12 Second Biden AI
36:41
clip because this obviously couldn't be an actual President
36:44
of the United States talking here about pistols and pistol
36:48
braces
36:49
Unknown: made it harder for people to buy stabilized brace
36:52
braces, put a pistol on a brace turns into a gun. Makes it more
36:57
you can have a higher caliber weapon or a higher caliber
37:00
bullet coming out of that gun.
37:01
Adam Curry: Okay, sorry for the one channel.
37:04
John C Dvorak: It was let's do some real Biden clip.
37:06
Adam Curry: That was a real clip.
37:08
Unknown: Oh, that was him actually. Yeah. What an idiot.
37:12
He
37:12
Adam Curry: says if you put a brace on a pistol, it turns
37:14
Unknown: into more caliber guns into
37:17
Adam Curry: a real gun. And then you get more caliber Higher,
37:20
higher caliber bullet coming out of it.
37:23
John C Dvorak: All right. Well, I got it. But I've got a bunch
37:25
of clips. Here we go. I don't do these as much as I used to
37:28
Adam Curry: when we've been missing them. But seeing as the
37:31
president is out there on the campaign trail, he's might as
37:33
well
37:33
John C Dvorak: bumbling and fumbling his way through okay,
37:35
here's where you start with 8%.
37:38
Unknown: But you have we have 1000 billionaires in America
37:42
know the average tax rate they pay? Eight AIGA is
37:51
Adam Curry: percent 8% AA 8% 1000 billion or eight e
37:57
IG H
37:58
Unknown: E IG H Wow.
38:01
Adam Curry: That's that's almost respectable.
38:03
John C Dvorak: So here we go with 54 states.
38:06
Unknown: And by the way, if they do that means not a joke,
38:08
everybody. That's why we were defeated in 2018. When they
38:12
tried to do we went to 54 states.
38:16
Adam Curry: Now, okay, so we've been through this with Obama.
38:23
And Obama also had the, you know, we have 58 states, but
38:27
that's when they somehow in Washington DC. They, they take
38:32
the territories into account, and then these and so normal for
38:37
them, they just for some reason, they all wind up making this
38:41
mistake. It's weird, because I think was 58 with Obama. Let me
38:45
see
38:48
Unknown: those 58 or 54
38:51
Adam Curry: I see Obama was at 54 I can't find anything on it.
38:59
John C Dvorak: Or let's go on. Here's by OBO Biden.
39:03
Adam Curry: You said Joe Biden, back in the groove? Yeah, baby.
39:09
Unknown: Indian OSHA. This
39:10
Adam Curry: is this classic.
39:11
Unknown: We're gonna win and we're gonna help we have plans
39:13
to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the
39:15
the notion we have plans to build in in Angola one of the
39:20
largest solar plants in the world. I can go on but I'm not
39:23
I'm going off script. I'm gonna get in trouble.
39:27
Adam Curry: So it's going under the under the Indian Ocean. This
39:29
is dynamite from
39:30
John C Dvorak: the Pacific. How's that work? Okay, well,
39:33
Adam Curry: we understand what he meant. So give him a break.
39:37
Yeah, he's old. Give him a break. I mean, that
39:41
John C Dvorak: is just the last clip that I want everyone out
39:44
there who likes to do songs you know, put together into show
39:47
mixes. I don't know why we this is not new. I don't know why we
39:53
never caught it before. I don't remember it guys Sherwood
39:55
because it reminds me of the old Obama. No, no, no. This is by
40:00
ain't doing it.
40:01
Unknown: As I said last week we remain in the battle for the
40:06
soul of America, by the way all right God love you. Let him go.
40:12
Let him go NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO don't let him go.
40:20
Everybody's entitled being an idiot. Wow, no, everybody's
40:24
going.
40:24
Adam Curry: Oh man, let me do that. That's a great sequence.
40:28
Oops sorry.
40:29
Unknown: No, no no no no no no no no no no no don't let him go
40:33
I
40:34
Adam Curry: love I love that that's perfect.
40:38
Unknown: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO don't let him go.
40:43
I've been watching you No no, no, no, no, no no. Go I love
40:57
Adam Curry: that kind of works. Love it. Oh man. Good one it
41:02
good. That is
41:03
Unknown: a gem.
41:04
Adam Curry: That its beauty. And he got it's literally he got
41:09
stuck.
41:10
Unknown: He is stuck
41:10
Adam Curry: not an n n n n n n and you know like a digital it
41:13
was digital digital glitch. It was glitching Biden to the
41:17
Eidelman I think glitch Biden glitch Gaiden glitch there you
41:20
go by this was years not
41:21
John C Dvorak: as good but it says he does say instead of
41:23
trends. Charter says transistor Americans
41:27
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, no, that's impossible. He did not
41:30
say transistor Americans. Tell me that's not true. As Commander
41:34
Unknown: in Chief, I was proud to have ended the ban on
41:37
transistor Americans,
41:38
Adam Curry: though he says trans jester
41:41
John C Dvorak: this transistor and then he corrects himself
41:43
hold
41:43
Unknown: on as commander in chief I was proud of and as the
41:46
ban on transistor Americans transgender Americans serving
41:50
that's the that's the same when we played as commander in chief.
41:52
I was proud to have ended the ban on transgender Americans
41:55
trans gesture
41:56
now I'm hearing treads joke Okay, no.
41:59
Adam Curry: Trans jester is a hit.
42:02
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's go to the left does the last of the
42:04
Biden was that I do have a couple of to dos that I like to
42:07
interject. Kudo does this do?
42:13
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, he's it's the same programming.
42:16
John C Dvorak: So let's go with this. stump speech, which is
42:20
just a mess.
42:21
Unknown: You know what I get when I were talking about the
42:23
fentanyl the border and all that. I speak to the president
42:26
Mexico. Will you stop sending guns to us? We are sending
42:35
dangerous weapons, particularly solos to Mexico, New Mexico, are
42:41
asking us please stop it. Cut it off at the border. But in God's
42:47
name, we could be coming if we don't do this. Now as some of
42:51
you know, I'd usually come down and say hi to Oliver. They tell
42:54
me there's a storm I'll
42:55
Adam Curry: just stop here for a second. But the government has
42:58
been sending weapons to Mexico it was called Fast and Furious.
43:02
Was it not?
43:03
Unknown: Yeah, hello.
43:04
Adam Curry: That's exactly what we do. And so now does his Biden
43:07
not read in on this?
43:08
John C Dvorak: I don't think Biden has been read in on it.
43:10
Adam Curry: I guess it didn't stop Wow, what did
43:14
Unknown: God's name we becoming if we don't do this now, Shana?
43:19
You know, I'd usually come down and say Hi, Doctor. They tell me
43:22
there's a storm coming in. Is that right? Is still Is that
43:26
still the deal? That's the truth now don't make a lie. As that
43:31
said that scene in John Wayne movie don't make me a dog face
43:34
why and pony soldier All right. God save the Queen man.
43:44
Adam Curry: Let's let's listen to his OG of that.
43:47
Unknown: Number one. I was a Democratic caucus. Member of
43:51
caucus no you haven't your lion dog faced pony stores.
43:56
Adam Curry: That's why that's the line lion dog faced pony
43:58
soldier. He can't even get that out anymore. Let's Let's do it
44:01
again.
44:02
Unknown: Is that right is still Is that still the deal? That's
44:05
the truth. Now don't make a lie. As that said that scene in John
44:10
Wayne movie. Don't make me a dog face. Why and ponies? Oh,
44:13
Adam Curry: no, I got it. No, he did it. He did it.
44:14
Unknown: All right. God save the Queen man.
44:18
Adam Curry: What was that about?
44:19
John C Dvorak: That that's the big mystery God Save the Queen.
44:24
To hell is that about? Alright, two more and we're done. We're
44:29
Adam Curry: just gonna I guess everyone just ignores that in
44:31
the mainstream. Like didn't really happen. I
44:34
John C Dvorak: know. None of this ever happened. Okay. All
44:36
right. You have to listen to the no agenda show to get a you know
44:40
a little few of these once in a while.
44:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, to have to have a chuckle.
44:47
John C Dvorak: God save the Queen. Yes. Here's Trudeau on
44:50
masks.
44:53
Unknown: If people want to wear a mask, that is okay. Because it
44:57
prevents you from breathing or it's Speaking up turned moistly
45:02
on them.
45:04
Adam Curry: He said moistly a big millennial. No, no. I can't
45:09
believe you said that. All right. Yes. Good. Good.
45:13
Unknown: Here's him talking about water bottle
45:15
water bottles out of water out of when we have water bottles
45:19
out of a plastic. Sorry, away from plastic towards paper. Like
45:27
drink box water bottle.
45:28
Adam Curry: Oh man. It's just also sad. It's also sad. All
45:34
these people that just sad. Just said I do have another Biden
45:39
this was I love this one and you didn't get this one. Okay, okay,
45:42
we've mobilized
45:43
Unknown: the world's leading emitters to help poor countries
45:46
deal with the impacts of climate change. They call it the g7 the
45:50
bill back Biden bill back better than we realize that got
45:54
confusing. Yeah, now we don't call it that. We call it this.
45:58
Here's the bottom line. Look, we're the ones that caused the
46:01
problem. The United States we cleared all our land we did all
46:07
the things to make our make things more easy for us to make
46:11
money.
46:12
Adam Curry: I don't know what he's saying. But I just love
46:14
Unknown: like day hell is he saying? I'd like to build back
46:17
Biden deal
46:17
with impact.
46:18
Adam Curry: What do we call it?
46:19
Unknown: They call it the g7 the bill back Biden bill back better
46:26
Adam Curry: the bill back by noon
46:38
what a narcissist can only think of himself build back Biden.
46:44
Yeah, yeah. Well, this brings us to unless you have more.
46:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, definitely. No, my Biden bit a little bit of
46:53
Adam Curry: AI news for you. Since it's hot and everything.
46:57
Everything now is AI everything is AI. I mean, I'm using a
47:02
program to play jingles AI man. It's all AI Photoshop AI. Yeah,
47:08
see, I use Microsoft Word AI. It's all AI.
47:11
Unknown: There are new rules at the Grammys with the brave new
47:14
world of artificial intelligence in mind. The Recording Academy
47:18
says only human creators are eligible for an award. However,
47:22
not all AI is banned. A human just has to contribute content
47:26
that is, quote, meaningful, and relevant. However, that's
47:29
measured.
47:31
Adam Curry: I mean, it's just blather now. Just black.
47:36
Everything I hear in Mute. Everything you hear music, by
47:39
definition, has run through algorithms processing
47:42
algorithms, if you're worried called all AI, samplers, I mean,
47:46
this is it's so not new, but is old. It's old news. But okay,
47:51
gives ABC a reason to do this one, an
47:54
Unknown: eye opening survey about artificial intelligence.
47:57
Also a little scary.
47:58
Some of the world's top CEOs gathered at a summit and a
48:01
survey found 42% of them believe that artificial intelligence
48:05
could destroy humanity in the next five to 10 years. For some
48:09
of those same executives are approving job cuts directly
48:12
related to using AI What can possibly go wrong? Interesting,
48:15
because we'll have to wait and see.
48:18
Adam Curry: I wish they would say that about climate change.
48:21
Oh, five to 10 years, we're all gonna die. Well, it gets we
48:23
don't have to worry about climate change is always all AI
48:25
is going to eat the world. And so we talked on the last show
48:30
about the European Union, and that they are putting together
48:34
rules, rules against AI. And what they're really talking
48:38
about is facial recognition. Which I guess if you want to
48:42
call that AI Alright, call it AI. Claire Daly. Luckily, she
48:47
stands up and she says, yeah, it's unbelievable. We get into
48:51
my beat the real socialists we love her. Oh, did you have this
48:54
clip? No, no. Claire gets up and she talks about facial
48:59
recognition and she drops a little bomb in there about
49:01
what's really happening. It's exactly what we said would be
49:04
happening.
49:04
Unknown: AI is being sold to us as the latest in a series of
49:08
groundbreaking technological leaps. It'll make our lives
49:12
easier, it'll make the world a better place. Well Don't believe
49:15
the hype. Like so much before us AI will be used for surveillance
49:19
and control. It won't give us a four day working week or longer
49:23
summer holidays. It won't solve the climate crisis or
49:27
redistribute wealth. It won't make public services better or
49:30
policing more effective, it will be just more of the same, but
49:34
faster, and probably much worse that judicial systems around the
49:39
world are exploring using AI and judicial decision making should
49:43
scare the hell out of us that Ukraine has been held up as a
49:47
living lab for AI warfare is frightening. We should be
49:52
approaching this subject cautiously, like every new
49:55
technology instead, we're far too quick to follow industry,
49:59
governments Across Europe are chomping at the bit to use
50:02
facial recognition to hell with people's rights the Irish
50:05
government of MEP so we're in coming in here saying they
50:08
disagree with a put their moving legislation before a possible EU
50:12
ban. The EPP should be ashamed of themselves for reneging on
50:15
the heart hours of negotiation. Committee.
50:18
Adam Curry: There it is. There it is. So while they're working
50:21
on a ban, they're moving in legislation to use it. Yeah.
50:27
Surprise surprise, to use it everywhere. And Mizel mentioned
50:32
this question has been emailed to me so much I'm surprised that
50:36
no agenda producers I mean, they know this stuff, but still they
50:39
won't email it to me so I will mention this poor customer who
50:43
is all in on Amazon. He has the ring doorbell he's got the door
50:48
locks he's got the Alexa he's got all everything all connected
50:51
to Amazon. Particularly the the smart one is the ring doorbell
50:55
which is a spy device, and the locks. And I guess you can
51:01
program your ring doorbell was something funny. You can have it
51:05
say funny stuff like hey, oh, man, leave it there. You know,
51:09
maybe a Fred Sanford type voice you can you know, whatever if
51:11
someone just rings the doorbell with a package. And so a
51:15
delivery person delivered a package and the doorbell he
51:19
thought the doorbell said something that was racist. So he
51:22
reported it back to Amazon HQ. And Amazon pulled the plug on
51:26
the guy's account and of course locked him out of his house now
51:30
probably wouldn't let him turn on his lights. And it's like,
51:33
ah, like don't do this people. How many floors reminded
51:40
John C Dvorak: you know, of all the people that are all you
51:42
know, wired to the gills with you know, you can just drive by
51:46
drive by door opener you know, there's all these kids you get a
51:50
one of these universal garage door openers you just drive down
51:53
the street open everybody's garage door. doll is it being
51:58
dependent on any of that stuff. It's just asking for vandals to
52:01
just have a tough time in their life.
52:03
Adam Curry: I love the troll room correcting me it was the up
52:06
board doorbell ring. He said can I help you? Okay, you get the
52:09
point. Here's another great piece of AI. So someone
52:14
unleashed AI, a journalist Joseph Martens and sent me an
52:19
email, I'm sure a I did this forum. Joseph Martin's. My name
52:22
is Joseph Martens. I'm a journalist with The Times News
52:25
Express, an online newspaper. I was conducting research for an
52:28
article I wrote and came across this link. And links to a no
52:32
agenda Show episode, I wrote an article troubleshooting guide
52:36
for common laptop issues on the New Times News expression, and
52:39
would like to link back to your website as a resource for the
52:42
article. In return, I would highly appreciate if you could
52:45
link add a link back to one of my websites. You could get
52:49
additional publicity rank higher on Google. So I go and take a
52:52
look. Well, what what he must have he obviously got some
52:54
information from us. It's no agenda Show episode 797 titled
52:59
laptop bomb. I mean, come on people. This is not this is not
53:04
smart AI.
53:06
John C Dvorak: First of all, first of all, having run a blog
53:09
for a decade. Yes, you've seen this old you've seen these
53:13
requests. 10 years ago, I was getting these notes that always
53:16
come from someone with a phony baloney. They say we saw the
53:19
link Yeah. And it's some link from a blog post that's five
53:23
years old that no one has ever opened.
53:26
Adam Curry: It has gotten odd has Google juice somehow I think
53:29
that well I think that's
53:30
John C Dvorak: they might you know they did stem with a
53:32
scraper I don't know how they do it. But what it is, but it's a
53:34
form letter. It's not AI generated by any means.
53:37
Adam Curry: I was just formed letter. Thanks, John. I was just
53:40
kind of joking around and being okay, well,
53:42
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying these guys keep doing this. And
53:46
it's like it when you respond to them. Which I stupidly did once
53:52
again, you responded to nothing because nobody home it's like,
53:56
Don't kid yourself. They just want to look at for free Linksys
53:59
I don't know if this is a trick. I don't know Does anyone do this
54:04
but buy into this bullcrap? You didn't
54:07
Adam Curry: know of course not. I just thought it was anybody
54:10
ever thought was interesting that they literally searched for
54:13
laptop and then didn't even see the laptop bomb. That seems like
54:18
it wouldn't go along with troubleshooting your laptop
54:21
story.
54:25
John C Dvorak: Tim and Joe saying you'll do it for 500
54:27
bucks
54:29
Adam Curry: that's what I would say I still have diaries.com and
54:33
do ya about twice a week? I'll get an email I'm highly
54:36
interested in buying this domain name well, no one's ever no
54:41
one's ever taken me up on my my price. A surprise one one
54:46
bitcoin which I think is decent. One Bitcoin. That's all I ask.
54:50
John C Dvorak: Do you know that art.com I learned this when I
54:55
was doing silicone spin. Because the guy bone do their art.com
55:00
sold for a million dollars. Well, that's nothing. That's
55:06
nothing in the or Well, no, it's true. It's not it's there are
55:10
during the heyday of domain name sales before they came up with
55:15
all these new domain domain domain names. They were selling
55:19
for a million dollars and associate your price of a one
55:21
Bitcoin for diaries.com is reasonable.
55:24
Adam Curry: Cuban sold broadcast.com for a billion.
55:27
Basically. That's what I mean. I mean, I've been offered a lot
55:32
for curry.com. But no one Navid I can't sell that my whole life
55:36
is it's my identity man.
55:38
Unknown: Who would put everyone has a price?
55:41
Adam Curry: No, I don't think so.
55:44
John C Dvorak: 10 million bucks. Cash. Cash Money.
55:46
Adam Curry: You're my man. Come on over here. Let's party. 10
55:49
million. No one's gonna spend $10 million.
55:53
John C Dvorak: Would you do it for 10 million cash money?
55:55
Adam Curry: Cash Money? Yeah,
55:57
Unknown: I guess I would. Okay, there. Yeah. But it would
56:00
Adam Curry: I mean, five wouldn't be enough.
56:04
Unknown: But 10 Yeah,
56:05
Adam Curry: I don't. That's when my scruples drop away. Yeah, I
56:09
think I think I'd have to Yeah, 10 is a lot of money. I could
56:12
stop doing this podcast. You probably wouldn't. That's how
56:17
dumb I am
56:18
John C Dvorak: to be doing a podcast but you also have $10
56:20
million in the bank. Cash Money.
56:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, for what it's worth for as long as it's still
56:27
worth 10 10 million. Just Just watch it dwindle away. All
56:32
right, so just related to Amazon. There's another strike
56:36
looming this one might be this one might get interesting. And
56:39
of course, the story doesn't explain what it's what the
56:41
problem is. But we all love our UPS drivers and and they are
56:46
part of the Teamsters I believe so this is this could be a
56:49
pretty big strike. Gil Guzman
56:51
Unknown: has been driving for ups for 23 years did you vote to
56:55
authorize the strike? I did. We're the best in the business
56:58
is how to get paid later. He's one of 330,000 employees who
57:02
want wage increases and more full time jobs.
57:05
We work hard, we work hard for our job. We work hard for this
57:08
company. We move this country around.
57:12
UPS is the biggest shipping company in the US around 6% of
57:16
the nation's gross domestic product passes through its brown
57:19
vans, nationwide, drivers deliver nearly 90 million
57:23
packages every single day. And a halt in operations would cause
57:28
major supply chain disruptions.
57:30
The reason we call the chain is that it's so integrated so any
57:33
strike, especially the long lasting strike
57:36
could have a devastating effect. Most of the summer, back to
57:40
schools and upcoming holidays,
57:42
the boom in online shopping during the pandemic is still
57:46
going strong, resulting in record profits for the company.
57:49
So why not share with your employees? Drivers already won a
57:52
big concession this week when UPS agreed to install air
57:56
conditioning in its trucks. If you could say one thing to the
57:59
people who are in the negotiating room, what would you
58:01
want them to know from you
58:03
just don't mess it up. You got 330,000 Strong UPS is that give
58:08
their blood sweat and tears for this company and both sides this
58:12
is working out and make it happen.
58:14
Now a strike is not a guarantee at this point in the negotiation
58:18
and UPS says it is aligned with its workers on many key issues
58:22
and it is committed to reaching a deal before this contract
58:25
expires at the end of July.
58:28
Adam Curry: Now, this is a very shallow report. I dove into
58:34
this. I like UPS. I like the guys and gals who drive ups,
58:37
just our air conditioning Come on. Their whole system is built
58:41
around their open SR open truck. These guys love it. They're not
58:46
looking for air conditioning. But they had a vote on something
58:50
a year and a half ago I think and even though 54% voted
58:55
against accepting the contract at that point it was two years
58:58
ago. Somehow some technicality in the rule said well, you've
59:04
got to have three quarters of them have to be voting were some
59:07
some they pulled some fast one on. But the real problem is most
59:12
of these packages that nowadays are Amazon, Amazon packages. And
59:17
all of this is outsourced to UPS and to FedEx when the United
59:21
States Postal Service which has its own problems related to
59:25
technology and how how they're you know people are not getting
59:28
paid anymore especially the rural carriers many of them
59:31
listen to no agenda. But with the UPS guys and gals, they
59:35
they're outsourcing a lot of these Amazon packages to some
59:38
dude and a Honda Civic to they're getting the gig economy
59:42
workers who get paid much less you can get I think it's 21 or
59:46
$22 an hour when you start with UPS including benefits you know,
59:50
retirement package, it was like truly, the blue collar is like
59:54
Doug Hernan you know from King of Queens like this. This was no
59:58
college needed you can drive was a Good company, and now they're
1:00:01
just undercutting everybody. I think if you're there for four
1:00:04
years you make $40 an hour, or 45 is a good job, comparatively
1:00:09
speaking. But they're what they're not saying is that UPS
1:00:13
is just, you know, giving to Uber drivers. Basically. That's
1:00:20
that's going to destroy these jobs. I think.
1:00:26
John C Dvorak: We'll I haven't looked into it. So I have no
1:00:28
idea what's really going on. We have Amazon trucks all over the
1:00:31
place. Those things are a plague.
1:00:36
Adam Curry: You're a plague get rid of I'm bringing the Honda
1:00:39
Civics.
1:00:40
John C Dvorak: And those are all operated by I think you've fed
1:00:44
UPS may own some of them. These are the subcontractors that
1:00:50
nobody you've seen Amazon truck and you say, well, it's some
1:00:53
guy. Independent guy bought a truck? No. They tend to be part
1:00:57
of a team of trucks at some one company, a small delivery
1:01:02
company that has bought 25 trucks. No a UPS trucks. No
1:01:07
Amazon.
1:01:08
Adam Curry: Oh, Amazon. Yeah. Well, I think the future for
1:01:11
this upcoming for the Zoomer generation is you will have a
1:01:15
Honda Civic. You will live in your Honda Civic because you
1:01:18
can't afford to live anywhere else. You'll be driving Uber
1:01:21
Uber Eats. Ups. You'll have your your spatial computing with your
1:01:28
your apple vision Pro. That's the future.
1:01:33
John C Dvorak: That's gonna be a delivery van. You'll be happy.
1:01:38
Caught in the back.
1:01:40
Unknown: Exactly.
1:01:41
Adam Curry: I can totally see that
1:01:44
John C Dvorak: dystopian view of things, but yeah, it's elements
1:01:48
of that. Taking
1:01:49
Adam Curry: place. We're moving that we're moving in that
1:01:50
direction, it seems seems clear.
1:01:55
Unknown: Bill Gates went to China.
1:01:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, he did. He was he looked really autistic.
1:02:03
Unknown: No, he is autistic.
1:02:05
Adam Curry: I know, but he looked really autistic. Now in
1:02:06
that chair.
1:02:09
John C Dvorak: Though, here's the reason why the NTD did
1:02:11
probably we'll have to say NTD would do the best job reporting
1:02:14
on this. Oops, sorry. I had it. And so let's start with the NTD
1:02:18
reports. And it goes into an analysis. That's interesting.
1:02:21
Adam Curry: I'm looking for an
1:02:23
Unknown: okay gates in China.
1:02:25
One Microsoft's co founder Bill Gates, that was Chinese leader
1:02:29
Xi Jinping on Friday. This comes just one day after the Gates
1:02:32
Foundation pledged a $50 million donation to a Chinese Medical
1:02:37
Research Institute. The meeting took place at Beijing's
1:02:40
Diaoyutai state guesthouse, a diplomatic complex used to house
1:02:44
foreign dignitaries. She called gates an old friend saying that
1:02:48
he was happy to see the business magnate after three years. Gates
1:02:53
on the same token said he was honored to meet with Xi, adding
1:02:57
that there's a lot of important topics to discuss. The Chinese
1:03:00
medical research institute that's receiving the grant is
1:03:03
called a GH DDI. It was first established in 2016. With the
1:03:08
help of the Gates Foundation, China's elite Qi university and
1:03:12
the city of Beijing. The $50 million from the Bill and
1:03:15
Melinda Gates Foundation is slated to bolster its drug
1:03:19
research capacity over the next five years. Gates his connection
1:03:23
with Beijing goes beyond GH DDI. Microsoft has been in China for
1:03:28
more than 30 years, and has a large research center there. Its
1:03:32
web portal Bing is the only China accessible foreign search
1:03:36
engine. As the regime tightens its grip on the nation's digital
1:03:40
sector beings search results on a number of sensitive topics
1:03:44
have been censored cybersecurity Research Group Citizen Lab found
1:03:48
that Bing also restricts certain Chinese search results for us
1:03:52
users
1:03:53
Adam Curry: not to be confused with being at.io.
1:03:58
John C Dvorak: No, not to be confused. no censorship there.
1:04:01
So I didn't know that being censored is stuff that you if
1:04:05
you let us being here in the US of A you're gonna get you're not
1:04:07
gonna get your Chinese information very accurately.
1:04:10
Adam Curry: Well, that doesn't surprise me. I don't trust any
1:04:12
search engine.
1:04:14
Unknown: surprises me. Or two,
1:04:17
Adam Curry: do you use Bing regularly?
1:04:19
Unknown: I use DuckDuckGo.
1:04:21
Worth noting it's rare for a Chinese leader to meet with a
1:04:25
foreign business leader. Just recently Apple CEO Tim Cook, and
1:04:29
Tesla CEO Elon Musk both visited China, but Gates is the only one
1:04:34
who got to meet with Xi Jinping.
1:04:37
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. No, go. Didn't
1:04:41
McCrone. McCrone got to meet him. McCrone
1:04:44
Unknown: but the point was they are business leaders don't get
1:04:46
to meet with him. I agree. Crozet leaders McCrone Yeah.
1:04:49
Macron is just a crony so interesting. Tim Cook got
1:04:54
stiffed and so didn't Elon Elon
1:04:59
John C Dvorak: today brought this guy on who do wrote the
1:05:01
book wireless wars, who's an analyst and he goes off to
1:05:07
discuss interpretations of what's really going on with
1:05:11
gates and the fact that it appears that a geisha selling
1:05:15
out the United States is you want me to go to China to clip
1:05:18
four clips, three clips, three giant, I put four is got
1:05:23
wireless words that to remove I forgot to put on a clip to
1:05:26
remind me who to say this guy was alright, so here we go. So
1:05:29
Bill
1:05:29
Unknown: Gates is in China, he met with Xi Jinping, who
1:05:31
actually called him his first American friend that he met in
1:05:35
Beijing. What do you make of this close relationship, though?
1:05:39
A friend of China is a term that is not actually complimentary
1:05:44
term a friend of China is someone who is on board with
1:05:46
China's objectives and goals is aligned is in harmony with what
1:05:51
China is trying to achieve when it's just the ego stroking and
1:05:54
the alignment, which is probably what the case is with Bill
1:05:58
Gates. They become a friend of China. And it's, it's sad, it's
1:06:04
not necessarily a good thing, because when you look at who
1:06:07
you're aligning yourself with, it's really a friend of the CCP
1:06:11
is what they mean not a friend to the Chinese people.
1:06:15
Adam Curry: By the way, duck, duck go. They say we largely
1:06:21
source from Bing.
1:06:24
Unknown: Yeah, well, it's probably true. But the word
1:06:27
largely as the CO operative. Yeah. And
1:06:29
Adam Curry: the rest is Wikipedia. Oh, that sounds good.
1:06:35
Unknown: I think they get a lot of stuff from Google, even
1:06:37
though like I'm sure they
1:06:38
Adam Curry: do and TripAdvisor music Max.
1:06:46
Okay, so he's friends with CCP.
1:06:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just as gay. So let's go to clip four
1:06:51
when you wrap this.
1:06:52
Unknown: And on that note, it seems China has been rolling out
1:06:55
this red carpet for businesses, especially business leaders. We
1:06:58
saw Elon Musk there, Jamie Dimon with JPMorgan Chase, and then
1:07:02
giving kind of the cold shoulder to the White House. What do you
1:07:05
make of that kind of message coming out of China?
1:07:09
It's kind of a funny thing. They know, they've always known that
1:07:13
the businesses and capitalist societies are there to make
1:07:16
profits. The government side is just very different. It's not
1:07:19
pursuing even though commerce wants growing markets for
1:07:23
American suppliers and good markets. For vendors to America.
1:07:29
There's a very different agenda for the for the government.
1:07:34
Adam Curry: Right, so how are they going to square that with
1:07:36
with our I mean, the business of America is business. How are
1:07:40
they going to square this saber rattling? They're doing I have a
1:07:43
clip about China. I
1:07:45
John C Dvorak: will play that clip. But for i But to answer
1:07:48
your question, I think that they're not going to square it.
1:07:51
I think this situation is going to worsen.
1:07:53
Adam Curry: That doesn't sound like a smart idea. While this is
1:07:56
similar to something you played on the last show, I think short.
1:08:00
Unknown: Overseas tonight a high stakes diplomatic mission to
1:08:02
China for a Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Blinken is
1:08:06
expected to meet with several Chinese officials over the
1:08:08
weekend. He's the first Secretary of State to make the
1:08:11
trip in five years. And President Biden saying today
1:08:14
that he's hoping to meet with China's President Xi soon is
1:08:18
coming amid escalating tensions between the two countries.
1:08:22
Adam Curry: So the Biden administration is just going to
1:08:26
let all these companies rot like Nah, we're just gonna do
1:08:30
whatever we need to do and screw you with your business.
1:08:35
John C Dvorak: Well, this other guy, this, this wireless
1:08:39
Adam Curry: wired wars guider,
1:08:42
John C Dvorak: he goes on about the supply chain issues that are
1:08:45
going to happen. It was just, it's hard to just all of a
1:08:49
sudden, I mean, theoretically, you should just say, Well, screw
1:08:52
China, they're useless. I stopped doing business with him.
1:08:55
But the problem is everything for the last 25 or 30 years, has
1:09:01
got China components or this made in China or no, we're not
1:09:05
pretending that we did it but it's actually Chinese and we
1:09:09
brought it over. We don't I mean, you know, the one of the
1:09:15
best things I've heard recently is listening to Gavin Newsom.
1:09:20
Adam Curry: Sean Hannity.
1:09:21
John C Dvorak: On Hannity. Yeah. Did you get Hannity? No, I don't
1:09:25
have any clips. I didn't want to get clips of that. I Hannity was
1:09:29
flat footed. And Newsom was just lording it over him and making
1:09:35
it sound like California is the fastest growing juggernaut of a
1:09:41
state and he because he had all these stats, you know,
1:09:43
statistics lie. So you is like saying the crime rates in San
1:09:48
Francisco have gone way down. And you can find stats
1:09:54
Adam Curry: where they have because the businesses are all
1:09:55
gone. So how can just nothing
1:10:00
John C Dvorak: So they have so you have this situation. And so
1:10:03
there's an element of denialism about China, and how they pretty
1:10:09
much own the United States. And so far as the supply chain is
1:10:12
concerned, and there's nothing we can do about it, nothing
1:10:16
because we can't crank all this stuff up, but we do. We I think
1:10:19
we've lost the skill sets that the Chinese have been developing
1:10:22
the manufacturing that we, you know, we don't, right, but
1:10:26
Adam Curry: I just don't understand they're
1:10:27
John C Dvorak: learning about emotions. They're not learning
1:10:30
how to be a machinist.
1:10:31
Adam Curry: So you're telling me that all this saber rattling
1:10:34
that we're doing, which is clearly going to hurt American
1:10:37
business is purely to keep the power of the White House and
1:10:40
what I mean? What else? What other reason is there for them
1:10:44
to do this? I can't think of any, because it just it makes no
1:10:49
sense. No, is it all just ego?
1:10:56
John C Dvorak: And as to be, or naivete we have to remember you
1:11:00
have a President of the United States has never worked a day in
1:11:02
his life. He's never worked in a factory. He's never worked on an
1:11:06
assembly line. He's never worked as a carpenter. He wasn't
1:11:09
building houses. He wasn't in a shag metal shop. You got Harry
1:11:13
wasn't even a paperboy from all I can tell was a lifeguard
1:11:16
Adam Curry: he has hairy legs. Yeah, he got beat up corn pop.
1:11:23
Well, actually, the ego thing there may be something to it.
1:11:26
This is short clip. This is a Korean John Claude Van Damme
1:11:32
Pierre being interviewed because of course, that's what this is
1:11:36
how Saki ended when they start doing interviews in there with
1:11:41
you know, with just as somehow it's kind of sickening for the
1:11:45
press. What was it called? He spoke tolls are we call them but
1:11:50
what is it
1:11:51
Unknown: press secretary press secretary,
1:11:52
Adam Curry: secretary press secretary to be doing interviews
1:11:55
about themselves. It's something that just isn't something you
1:11:58
just don't do.
1:11:59
John C Dvorak: Maybe it's exactly what you think, ego,
1:12:03
which is that this is the strategy to get rid of her. I
1:12:06
mean, you said sock, he started doing this again. Yeah, well,
1:12:09
okay. This might be the end for I think she's already violated
1:12:13
the Hatch Act. We haven't talked about that on the show. Explain
1:12:17
the Hatch Act. It says that, as a government worker, you cannot
1:12:21
take part in partisan politics, right. So in other words, if
1:12:25
you're working for the State Department, you can start
1:12:28
stamping letters and get reelected as Joe Biden and you
1:12:32
can add dressing envelopes and sending them off while you're
1:12:34
working there. And she violated the Hatch Act about I don't know
1:12:38
two or three weeks ago, when she went off on Magga Republicans
1:12:42
met Megan Magadan, blah, blah. She went on off on it and
1:12:47
somebody realized that this was a violation of the Hass Hatch
1:12:51
Act she was doing.
1:12:52
Adam Curry: I have I have it here. I have a clip he
1:12:54
Unknown: has been clear democracy is under assault, and
1:12:56
we cannot pretend otherwise. The President will continue to call
1:13:00
attention to the threat to democracy, democratic integrity,
1:13:04
and to public safety posed by those who deny the documented
1:13:09
truth about election results, and those who seek to undermine
1:13:13
public faith in our system of government. Unfortunately, we
1:13:17
have seen mega mega Republican officials who don't believe in
1:13:22
the rule of law. They refuse to accept the results of free and
1:13:26
fair elections.
1:13:27
Adam Curry: That was it that was the violation of the Hatch Act,
1:13:30
John C Dvorak: then that was a clear violation of the Hatch
1:13:33
Act. And she should have been then they know it they don't
1:13:37
know what to do about it. They should find her or fire her or
1:13:41
something should be done. But again, you know, they don't know
1:13:44
what to do because oh god what are we going to do is so you
1:13:47
can't you can't fire
1:13:48
Adam Curry: her she marks he checks off too many boxes.
1:13:50
There's no way
1:13:51
John C Dvorak: she'd have to hire a lesbian My God well,
1:13:54
black lesbian. Hello. Wait, black lesbian is so rare, he or
1:13:58
she is her 21
1:13:59
Adam Curry: second to reply about how well you'll hear it a
1:14:02
Unknown: year in this role. There's been a couple of things
1:14:05
that I that has made me incredibly proud many things
1:14:09
many things have made me incredibly proud to be at that
1:14:11
podium during this historic moment. Again, this is a
1:14:14
historic administration. I'm a historic figure and I this
1:14:18
glossary everyday but this is also the historic making
1:14:22
administration because of this
1:14:23
Adam Curry: president I'm a historic person
1:14:27
John C Dvorak: that is unprecedented okay, you get a
1:14:29
clip of the day for that.
1:14:30
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you if she is a historic person everybody
1:14:35
John C Dvorak: unbelievable what an ego test okay, so she's this
1:14:39
big historic person because she's a black lesbian. Okay,
1:14:47
from Haiti or wherever the hell she's from.
1:14:49
Adam Curry: Yes. Someone sent me a
1:14:53
John C Dvorak: anyway by the way she but she's in violation of
1:14:55
the Hatch Act she should be terminated continue to terminate
1:14:59
terminate. Ah, terminate.
1:15:00
Adam Curry: Someone sent me a passage from 1984. The who
1:15:05
doesn't know it the book by George Orwell. I think a lot of
1:15:07
people know the book, but I don't know how many people
1:15:09
actually read it.
1:15:11
John C Dvorak: Great book to read, I would recommend reading
1:15:13
it. I would say there's a number of books. I would say reading
1:15:16
that in the Huxley book is another book you must read. Yes.
1:15:20
Which is what is it called? I can't even remember. Brave New
1:15:24
World. Brave New World is much read 1984 is a must must Neopost
1:15:29
Adam Curry: amusing ourselves to death would also be another one.
1:15:31
It's all in no agenda book. club.com I think is where we
1:15:34
have all of these.
1:15:34
John C Dvorak: And I would say if you don't want to read the
1:15:37
1984 book, The movie is good too. In fact, the movie may be
1:15:41
creepier.
1:15:42
Adam Curry: From the book, the protagonist Winston Smith says
1:15:46
they had played a similar trick with the instinct of parenthood,
1:15:49
the family could not actually be abolished, and indeed, people
1:15:52
were encouraged to be fond of their children in almost the old
1:15:55
fashioned way. The children on the other hand, were
1:15:58
systematically turned against their parents and taught to spy
1:16:01
on them and report their deviations. The family had
1:16:04
become an effect an extension of the thought police pronouns
1:16:08
anyone, the antagonist O'Brien. We have cut the links between
1:16:13
child and parent and between man and man and between man and
1:16:16
woman, no one dares trust a wife or child or friend any longer,
1:16:20
but in the future, there will be no wives and no friends children
1:16:22
will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from
1:16:25
a hen the sex instincts will be eradicated. Procreation will be
1:16:29
an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We
1:16:32
shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are working on it
1:16:36
right now. Telo Elam, there will be no loyalty except loyalty
1:16:40
towards the party. There'll be no love except the love of Big
1:16:42
Brother. There'll be no laughter except the laugh of triumph over
1:16:45
a defeated enemy Maga. There will be no art no literature, no
1:16:49
science, when we are omnipotent, we shall have no more need of
1:16:52
science, there'll be no distinction between beauty and
1:16:54
ugliness. Sound familiar? Now let's get to work on these
1:17:00
children really early and disrupt the relationship between
1:17:03
the children and the parents. Let's get on with the baby bears
1:17:07
on the Cartoon Network. This is for young kids. Jared Winnie Hey
1:17:15
there, Ryan the great Winifred she extraordinaire
1:17:26
Unknown: are also the
1:17:28
new addition box they use they them pronouns
1:17:32
Adam Curry: they give exceptionally good quiche box
1:17:39
they then pronouns This is not okay.
1:17:45
John C Dvorak: No, that's good. There's another good clip not
1:17:49
Adam Curry: okay. And so, you know, states are cracking down
1:17:53
on it Florida. It's certainly just for young children. There's
1:17:58
parents should have the right to determine what their what their
1:18:00
what their children are learning in school. This is of course not
1:18:04
the the Scholastic opinion and teachers are quitting now. This
1:18:10
is a report from NBC
1:18:11
Unknown: on the same day that high school English teacher
1:18:13
Emily Ramseur won an award for being an outstanding Texas
1:18:17
educator. She stood in front of the grapevine Colleyville school
1:18:21
district to tell them why she was among dozens of staff
1:18:24
members resigning this year.
1:18:26
This community has continuously harassed me for the past few
1:18:29
years, to the point that there were days I didn't even want to
1:18:32
be alive anymore, much less be a teacher. So I'm going to listen
1:18:36
to what I am hearing from this community. Which is that y'all
1:18:39
don't want people like me, people who might be gay to teach
1:18:43
here.
1:18:44
School districts across the country are facing a teacher
1:18:46
shortage fueled by burnout and low pay. But in Texas, Many
1:18:50
blame politics. Last year rams those districts saw a 40% jump
1:18:55
in resignations and retirements. After new conservative school
1:18:58
board members pushed to remove hundreds of books and restrict
1:19:02
lessons about race and LGBTQ identities.
1:19:05
I've taught these kids for years to write and to grow their
1:19:09
voices. And I'm not going to let my actions say something
1:19:12
different.
1:19:13
Ramseur who identifies as queer, so she was asked to change some
1:19:17
of her lessons and to remove classroom artwork and rainbow
1:19:20
stickers.
1:19:22
Adam Curry: So what's sad about this type of reporting is the
1:19:25
way they bring it is they they make it sound like there's
1:19:29
hatred against
1:19:31
John C Dvorak: your sympathetic toward the poor, almost gay
1:19:33
teacher and whatever pain area whatever she is, who's crying on
1:19:37
the screen. He's crying on the on the set. And, yeah, that's
1:19:42
the way it's presented. It's slanted presentation. Classic
1:19:45
news. Yeah. Which has a perspective.
1:19:49
Adam Curry: They bring in politics, of course, and this is
1:19:52
the this is the poison she
1:19:54
John C Dvorak: had to take her stickers down on her. And they
1:19:57
banned and the book banning and there was generalized So it
1:20:00
sounds like they're banning, you know, everything.
1:20:02
Adam Curry: Yes. And so this is political. And it's obvious. You
1:20:06
know, it's Texas and I talk about laws. And what this hat
1:20:09
what happens is with the under educated over socialized
1:20:13
individuals that the entire world is full of this is not
1:20:16
just America, but it's really prevalent here. You get, you get
1:20:22
people really believing that they are hated. I mean, that's
1:20:27
what she said, you know, they, they don't like people like me.
1:20:31
I don't think that's ever been said. It's like, you know, she
1:20:33
actually said in that clip, I'm here to teach the children had a
1:20:36
right and to grow their voices. What No, you're not here to grow
1:20:40
their voices. I disagree. That that's not what you're here to
1:20:45
do. But okay, grow your voices. They just it turns into the
1:20:50
second grader. It turns into the need, it turns into this
1:20:54
horrible hatred for each other. And I mean, this clip on C span
1:20:59
Washington journal really exemplifies poor news reporting,
1:21:06
or I shouldn't say poor it's actually excellent news. What
1:21:08
they're doing on in the news, which is, in general, mainstream
1:21:12
news is run by the Democrat Party of America. This is what
1:21:19
they want. This is how they want to communicate it because it's
1:21:23
going to get more of America sympathetic to vote Democrat. I
1:21:26
guess that's the idea. And this is the result of it.
1:21:29
Unknown: This is Laura Kelly. I believe in Galveston, Texas
1:21:33
independent Good morning.
1:21:37
In their morning, there, I'm just gonna say that, you know,
1:21:41
if I'm gonna be straight with you as I can be, I'm a lesbian
1:21:44
so it's gonna be kind of hard but a wake up America, maybe
1:21:48
Republicans are falling to not do it. They are Nazis. They're
1:21:51
calling for genocide on trans people like myself. Every year
1:21:55
to hear in the morning who's been calling so far has been
1:21:57
nothing but calls for my death. They have listening to good
1:22:01
college, but most of the Republicans have been calling
1:22:03
from my desk. They are saying I don't have a right now she does
1:22:07
the one corsets hit me over the head with brown pants. He is a
1:22:10
Nazi and he does not want me here. All right, well,
1:22:13
hold off on the Nazi references. This is Steven.
1:22:17
Adam Curry: Finally, you know, there's someone who is
1:22:20
convinced, convinced that Republicans are Nazis, all of
1:22:25
them and they want this person dead. And there's just no
1:22:28
evidence of this. There's no evidence of it, but it's the way
1:22:32
the News brings it. Like the battle brewing over trans
1:22:36
rights.
1:22:37
Unknown: This morning. Columbus is preparing to welcome an
1:22:39
estimated 700,000 people to his annual Pride Parade while a
1:22:43
battle is brewing just blocks away at all at the Ohio State
1:22:46
House over the future of trans rights fields. The Republican
1:22:49
controlled legislature is considering a number of bills
1:22:51
impacting trans youth, one called HB 68 would make it
1:22:55
illegal for doctors to provide gender affirming care for trans
1:22:58
minors, including prescribing puberty blockers or hormones.
1:23:02
That one definitely concerns me considering I am actively on the
1:23:05
waiting list for getting puberty
1:23:07
blockers 11 year old Michael ferrea has identified as a boy
1:23:11
for years now his parents say puberty blockers are needed to
1:23:14
essentially allow him to pause his development for now.
1:23:17
It makes me uncomfortable that I having to go through feminine
1:23:22
puberty
1:23:23
I used to be 68 is to save adolescents from
1:23:25
experimentation.
1:23:27
Republican state representative Gary click is the primary
1:23:29
sponsor of this bill he also touted would ban doctors from
1:23:32
performing gender reassignment surgery on a minor something
1:23:36
opponents argue isn't happening in Ohio.
1:23:38
I've done a lot of research I've talked to a lot of professionals
1:23:41
on this our side gets ignored in this we have the science is
1:23:45
on our side, but the American Academy of Pediatrics now listen
1:23:48
Adam Curry: to this, listen to their studies and tell me what
1:23:50
the common thing is about the science the studies that they
1:23:54
have published
1:23:54
Unknown: a study finding transgender teens who were given
1:23:57
puberty blockers experienced superior mental health outcomes
1:24:00
compared to those who wanted the medication but didn't receive
1:24:03
it. And a 2022 study concluded transgender and non binary youth
1:24:07
with access to gender affirming care had 60% lower odds of
1:24:11
moderate or severe depression.
1:24:13
I certainly wish them the best and all of you I love these
1:24:16
kids. I care about these kids. And I'm not trying to run
1:24:19
people's lives.
1:24:19
The furries have accepted that HB 68 may become law. They say
1:24:24
that's why for many in the LGBTQ community, this year's pride
1:24:28
celebration has turned into a call to action,
1:24:31
although it will hurt the trans community. It is not going to
1:24:35
make us D transition or just pop out of existence. I guess they
1:24:41
aren't necessarily getting rid of us.
1:24:44
Adam Curry: So there's another child being abused by the media
1:24:49
to be a spokesperson and the same message then no, we're not
1:24:53
going to disappear. They're not going to get rid of us. We're
1:24:56
not just going to go away. These are all very very hurtful.
1:25:00
messages this child has been filled fed with. And all these
1:25:03
studies do not go back any further than 2019. That's the
1:25:06
oldest they have. And the science is clearly not settled
1:25:11
on the long term effects and and just the words that are being
1:25:16
used battle, you know, Boch right to existence. All this
1:25:20
stuff is bad. We have a number of, of emails, which I'm not
1:25:24
going to read, I've cleared it with. Well, with all of them to
1:25:29
put them in the show notes, I would say specifically read
1:25:32
Alexa, who's trans producer of the no agenda show in Chechnya,
1:25:37
but who went through the same as, as now are our night who was
1:25:43
a dame who D transitioned. And Alex is 40, you know, had to go
1:25:49
through almost three years, you know, at older at an older age
1:25:54
to be able to do all the transitioning the medical
1:25:56
transitioning, and agrees that it's insane what is happening
1:26:00
right now. And it's clearly happening for political reasons.
1:26:05
Another one from I think you read this one, the boots on the
1:26:08
ground fleeing California to save a child's life, you
1:26:11
probably read that one where this mother single mom
1:26:15
completely went in all in the program in Berkeley, and her and
1:26:19
her st. Her son became, was identifying as a girl. And then
1:26:25
once they didn't want to accept the vaccine into the life, they
1:26:28
were kicked out of the group, they were no good anymore. So
1:26:30
they left left for a new interesting coincidence. Yes.
1:26:35
You know, my body, right? Left for New England. And once you
1:26:40
know, away from the therapists, the the, the boy felt like a boy
1:26:46
again,
1:26:47
Unknown: and was like, Oh, he's playing football. Yeah.
1:26:51
Adam Curry: So those are in the show notes worth looking at just
1:26:53
as counterprogramming to all of this. But there's something
1:26:57
happened that I need to highlight because I give the
1:26:59
pivot people a lot of crap. And and actually, this has nothing
1:27:04
to do with Kara Swisher, because she is still a horrible person.
1:27:07
And I'm not going to play her retort to this. But Scott,
1:27:11
Professor Galloway, who I just in the last show called non
1:27:15
Ma'am, I have to say, I gotta give him props. He may be the
1:27:18
canary in the coal mine, he may be waking up, it seems like he
1:27:22
has his head screwed on right when it comes to trans athletes,
1:27:26
and I need to play this, just to balance out all the crap I give
1:27:29
them.
1:27:30
Unknown: So I think the tweet was on the last step
1:27:32
by saying first of all, you're not transphobic I thought this
1:27:35
was a stupid tweet, but you are not transphobic. Go ahead.
1:27:38
Go ahead. Go ahead. Thanks.
1:27:42
Wow, all you transphobic
1:27:45
Adam Curry: that's, that's exactly what she does. You know,
1:27:47
he sent out a tweet, and he got a lot of crap for it. And she'll
1:27:50
just, here's my opinion, here's my opinion. Here's my opinion.
1:27:52
Go ahead. I'm gonna play that again. So you can hear it in
1:27:55
context. So
1:27:56
Unknown: I think the tweet was on the last step
1:27:58
by saying first of all, you're not transphobic I thought this
1:28:00
was a stupid tweet, but you are not transphobic. Go ahead.
1:28:04
Thanks, I'm
1:28:07
calling you transphobic. That was
1:28:09
a go to your transphobic. So Austin, kill UPS a trans woman
1:28:13
one, the Belgian waffle race on Saturday, that's 131 mile course
1:28:18
runs through the Blue Ridge Mountains. And the number two
1:28:22
rider came in four and a half minutes behind her. And when my
1:28:27
tweet was, and I hope it'll get wrong, because obviously Twitter
1:28:31
isn't a place for nuance. I said that unless Democrats condemn
1:28:36
trans women athletes competing at elite at this elite level, it
1:28:41
will impair our ability to advocate for transgender rights.
1:28:46
Adam Curry: Now, notice here, he says Democrats just notice that
1:28:50
everything with these people is politically motivated. He says
1:28:54
Democrats what he meant is liberals. But he said Democrats
1:28:58
Unknown: and I think what's happening here care is that in
1:29:01
an attempt to be empathetic, and attempt to fight for the rights
1:29:06
of a group that has been marginalized, and has been
1:29:08
persecuted. In my view, we have kind of lost our minds and
1:29:13
ideologically the snake is eating its own tail. Now, what
1:29:16
do I mean by that? If you think about male physiology, I mean,
1:29:22
when it comes right down to is, is if you look at most studies
1:29:25
to summarize them, men are physically stronger. Women are
1:29:29
emotionally and mentally stronger, even at a childhood
1:29:32
age, like girls, girls can survive divorce, with much
1:29:36
better outcomes than boys. But anyways, there's just no
1:29:39
comparison. And what we have decided to do when we let people
1:29:46
who are born as males compete in these races after they have gone
1:29:52
through puberty where you pour testosterone over a bigger,
1:29:56
larger muscle mass and greater bone density and skeletal
1:30:00
infrastructure. I think you end up with the misogyny. And that
1:30:04
is that the entire world of elite sports, all of the
1:30:09
camaraderie, all of the money, all of the scholarships, all of
1:30:13
the relevance, all of the accolades, the confidence, all
1:30:16
of these wonderful things are about to be slowly but surely
1:30:20
sequestered to one group. And that is people born with
1:30:23
penises, unless we have at a certain level involving money,
1:30:28
and scholarships, unless we say, look, a lot are either born with
1:30:33
a vagina, or you're going to play or you're going to be in
1:30:37
another separate category. But the notion that we are going to
1:30:41
start having people with pets six foot five, and the wingspan
1:30:45
of Michael Phelps who by the way still have a penis and testicles
1:30:48
compete in the NC to a swim meet. This is nothing but us
1:30:54
going way too far in in a misguided attempt to say to get
1:30:58
our bone a fetus around progressiveness are hurting
1:31:02
women, and there needs to be some nuance here.
1:31:05
Okay, I get that. Go ahead.
1:31:06
Can I anyways, I just can immediately people start calling
1:31:10
you transphobic. They did. And I'm like, this isn't transphobic
1:31:13
you know, who I'm advocating for? Not only women, but I'm
1:31:17
advocating I believe our ability to advocate for the LGBTQ
1:31:20
community and the transgender community is diminished. Because
1:31:25
people people think, well, I this hateful transgender
1:31:28
legislation is ridiculous and stupid. But the Democrats have
1:31:32
lost their fucking minds.
1:31:34
Adam Curry: So yes, now the thing that was I don't have the
1:31:37
clip for you, because it just I can't. Kara Swisher then goes on
1:31:43
to say over eight minutes? Well, the difference is, you're a
1:31:47
Democrat, the Republicans, they really hate trans people, they
1:31:51
really hate the LGBT community. These people are so brainwashed,
1:31:58
that they don't believe the exact same words, you and I
1:32:01
could have both said this, who would have said it more
1:32:03
succinctly. And shorter. We could have said that. We said
1:32:06
John C Dvorak: we probably have said it. Yeah. And years ago.
1:32:10
Adam Curry: It's like, this makes no sense. You just can't
1:32:13
say that as someone who likes free speech, or is branded as,
1:32:19
as a Republican or Magga. These people are some of the most
1:32:23
bigoted people in the world. And they really need to check
1:32:28
themselves, but good on Professor Scott. He Prof. G. I'm
1:32:32
sorry. He, he at least sees that this is not a good idea. I
1:32:38
thought that was a breakthrough.
1:32:41
Unknown: Yeah. It was a breakthrough breakthrough.
1:32:51
Adam Curry: It was a breakthrough. Totally. He had a
1:32:54
moment of clarity.
1:32:56
John C Dvorak: Hey, wait a minute, moment of clarity is not
1:32:59
a breakthrough.
1:33:00
Adam Curry: Okay. Good point.
1:33:03
John C Dvorak: I mean, the logic is there. I mean, I was
1:33:05
listening to care and TV news the other day and they and one
1:33:10
of the news readers just blurted out said, well, the transgender
1:33:16
athlete, they're saying it's they have a distinctive
1:33:20
advantage over the female athlete. Yeah. And then she's
1:33:25
just says there's no evidence of this.
1:33:29
Adam Curry: Yeah. They're so afraid of losing their job.
1:33:34
That's it. They're just afraid. But I don't
1:33:38
John C Dvorak: think so. I disagree with that. Again, I've
1:33:40
done this before with you on this particular topic. Where
1:33:43
it's not fear, it's sincerity. Well, they really believe this
1:33:47
stuff.
1:33:48
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, okay. I think that if in fact, there was
1:33:54
a
1:33:55
John C Dvorak: Kara's not insincere.
1:33:57
Adam Curry: You're right. You're right. She's
1:34:00
Unknown: not she's not afraid. That's for sure. No, she's
1:34:02
Adam Curry: not well, she got money from her divorce. So she
1:34:05
got no problem there. It was, was that there was some study.
1:34:11
It's true.
1:34:12
Unknown: Something you always throw that little nut della jibe
1:34:15
in their ear.
1:34:16
Adam Curry: When you have money. Like you know, hey, let me sell
1:34:18
curry.com for $10 million. Watch me go off the rails. Watch this
1:34:23
show change
1:34:24
Unknown: the show. It'd be great.
1:34:28
Adam Curry: Insulting everybody. I have no clips but lots of
1:34:33
stories in the UK. Headlines headlines headlines. Fresh
1:34:39
warning of deadly new virus surfaces. virus which kills one
1:34:45
person a second likely to be heading to UK scientists say
1:34:50
urgent warning after outbreak of one of the world's deadliest
1:34:53
diseases after man dies in Namibia and my favorite new
1:34:59
deadly virus is highly likely to arrive in the UK in latest
1:35:03
climate change warning. So now that headline, oh, there's your
1:35:06
connection. That's the one I like. So I'm like, What is this?
1:35:10
Yeah, so I'll bring up this this is from the mirror, which is
1:35:13
another fine, outstanding.
1:35:15
Unknown: Another fine standing publication be proud
1:35:17
Adam Curry: of deadly virus that is killing nearly 50% of
1:35:21
patients is highly likely. That's that's your climate
1:35:25
change language to arrive in the UK, along with other illnesses
1:35:28
spread by insects, which are marching north due to climate
1:35:33
change.
1:35:34
John C Dvorak: The six are marching north from climate
1:35:36
change
1:35:37
Adam Curry: across across the English Channel even they're
1:35:39
just marching north. They're swimming, they're swimming.
1:35:42
John C Dvorak: It's a good movie for people out there want to see
1:35:44
something like this is also was a radio play. I think it's a
1:35:47
Roger, I think it's read you read your Kipling. Rudyard
1:35:51
Kipling. Yes. Called the naked the movies called the naked
1:35:56
jungle. Net is about. It's a great movie. It's about these
1:36:01
giant army ants marching north, eating everything in their way.
1:36:06
It's tyrannized film.
1:36:08
Adam Curry: Well, they're marching north towards the UK
1:36:10
and they're going to swim, apparently, now
1:36:13
John C Dvorak: as army ants. Yeah, they did. They had to swim
1:36:16
across the rivers.
1:36:18
Adam Curry: Well, the English Channel is not just a river.
1:36:22
Hey, get there. Let me tell you about this, about this disease.
1:36:25
It has a great name. They go through
1:36:27
John C Dvorak: the channel that they can just crawl crawl
1:36:29
across. They go through the channel. There you go. Yeah, no,
1:36:33
the who's gonna stop them.
1:36:34
Adam Curry: This is cchf cchf. It has a snappy acronym. And it
1:36:41
has everything you want in there. It's the Crimean Congo
1:36:45
hemorrhagic fever. So you've got a little bit of Russia in there,
1:36:50
you know, Crimea, Congo, Congo
1:36:51
John C Dvorak: hemorrhagic fever, which is a bola and more
1:36:55
fans I guess we're not Marfan says the other one Marburg,
1:36:58
Marburg, Marburg, Marburg are fences with Lincoln
1:37:03
Adam Curry: Francis Marburg,
1:37:04
John C Dvorak: you got that. You got Crimea, you got hemorrhagic
1:37:07
and Congo. Yep, you
1:37:08
Adam Curry: got it all. Wow, symptoms. Great moniker.
1:37:11
symptoms may include fever, muscle pains, headaches, and
1:37:14
John C Dvorak: it's caused by bugs. Yes, the same bugs, maybe
1:37:19
Adam Curry: the cchf virus is typically spread by tick bites,
1:37:22
or close contact with the blood secretions, organs, or other
1:37:26
bodily fluids of infected persons or animals. So, you
1:37:30
know, like it spreads like monkey virus ticks. groups that
1:37:34
are at highest risk of infection are farmers. And those who work
1:37:39
in slaughterhouses the virus can also spread between people via
1:37:42
body fluids. Hello gays. You Thought Monkey virus was
1:37:47
interesting. diagnosis can be made by the
1:37:51
John C Dvorak: way you citing gays in this case. heterosexual
1:37:56
couples have body photos. No,
1:37:58
Adam Curry: no monkey monkey pox only went through between men
1:38:02
who have sex with men. Do I have to remind you of this fact fact.
1:38:07
Monkey virus only spread between men who have sex with men. Now
1:38:14
diagnosis can be made by detecting antibodies. The virus
1:38:19
is RNA. Hmm. Get in there, or viral proteins. So now of course
1:38:28
there are no FDA or who approved therapeutics yet. No, no, no, we
1:38:35
can't have therapeutics. You gotta get a vaccine. If there's
1:38:37
therapeutic you can't have it. Well,
1:38:38
John C Dvorak: I'm getting my things mixed up right
1:38:41
therapeutics are
1:38:41
Adam Curry: getting ahead of it getting ahead of it. In the past
1:38:45
20 years, cch F outbreaks have been reported in Eastern Europe,
1:38:51
particularly in the former Soviet Union.
1:38:54
Unknown: Bastards back bastards Civ Russians
1:38:57
Adam Curry: bastards. Yeah, this one's got legs. I think it's got
1:39:02
legs. There's no clips yet, but they're coming. They're coming.
1:39:07
Keep your eye on cchf. Jeff,
1:39:12
John C Dvorak: is when too many letters.
1:39:14
Adam Curry: I feel good about it. I do I feel good about this
1:39:16
one. It's one to many. I think Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever.
1:39:21
cchf I can just see it cchf Me in Congo hemorrhagic fever.
1:39:27
BCCH.
1:39:29
Cch can probably do that. I like it. I like it. It's got
1:39:34
everything in there. And you bleed out through your butt and
1:39:39
your eyeballs.
1:39:40
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that's you have to bleed out through
1:39:42
your eyeballs Yeah,
1:39:43
Adam Curry: otherwise it's just no good it's no good rather not
1:39:49
all right. All right. Do we have the mean I've got Russia.
1:39:58
Unknown: I got some Ukraine. I got low Ukraine. Yeah,
1:40:00
Adam Curry: let's do some I got some Ukraine stuff too
1:40:03
John C Dvorak: that this is the one that I only have two clips.
1:40:05
You can play the rest of them plays out with yours but
1:40:09
Adam Curry: Whoa, you okay, what happened there? Okay. Oh, we
1:40:15
have a podcaster down, John. Hello. Oh, what happened here
1:40:21
something happened.
1:40:22
Unknown: Test test test.
1:40:23
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, let me see.
1:40:25
Unknown: Okay this should be good right here.
1:40:27
Adam Curry: Yes it's interesting I already got a Darren O'Neal
1:40:29
sent his resume.
1:40:31
Unknown: Yeah
1:40:34
yeah that bastard I knew he would
1:40:38
Adam Curry: like hey, man, I can do the show as easy as
1:40:40
Unknown: that they're ready.
1:40:43
Adam Curry: All right, Ukraine back to Ukraine clips. I'm glad
1:40:47
everything's okay. That always scares me a little.
1:40:50
John C Dvorak: It's kind of works in that it fell away. It
1:40:52
did. Yeah. But now I know that you reset the clean feed right
1:40:56
away. Okay. I wish you wouldn't have been off. I wouldn't have
1:40:58
been dead for two minutes instead of
1:41:01
Adam Curry: 30 seconds. Sorry. Well, it's all good. We're all
1:41:03
back to normal all systems.
1:41:05
John C Dvorak: Okay. This is really annoying. And this is the
1:41:08
push to NATO leaders. Sorry, talked a lot about your
1:41:13
Adam Curry: wish to NATO
1:41:14
Unknown: leaders from all 31 NATO member nations will hold
1:41:17
their annual summit next month in Vilnius, Lithuania. Ahead of
1:41:21
that some members and Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky are
1:41:25
stepping up their calls for Ukraine to join the military
1:41:28
alliance. Ali Rogen has the details.
1:41:31
Poland's parliament today passed a resolution supporting
1:41:33
Ukraine's admission to NATO. Ukraine in NATO was a
1:41:37
contentious issue long before the war began. And it has only
1:41:40
accelerated since then. We have now our own debate on when or
1:41:44
whether Ukraine should be invited into NATO. Charles
1:41:47
caption served on the National Security Council staff during
1:41:50
the Obama and Clinton administrations. He's now a
1:41:52
senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and a
1:41:55
Georgetown University professor and Evelyn Farkas was Deputy
1:41:58
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia.
1:42:02
During the Obama administration. She's now the executive director
1:42:06
of the McCain institute at Arizona State University.
1:42:09
Welcome back to you both. Evelyn. I want to begin with you
1:42:12
you support Ukraine becoming a member of NATO now,
1:42:15
why Ukraine has earned it. First of all, we gave you credit in a
1:42:19
political agreement back when the international community took
1:42:22
their nuclear weapons that we would defend them if they were
1:42:25
invaded. And the countries that were supposed to defend Ukraine
1:42:30
did defend Ukraine to some extent, but not to the extent
1:42:34
that Ukraine expected since then Ukraine has been fighting to
1:42:37
uphold the international order the principles of the sanctity
1:42:40
of borders, which Russia has violated repeatedly. And frankly
1:42:44
speaking, they are now the most capable, the largest, most in
1:42:47
NATO interoperable, battle hardened, capable military on
1:42:51
the European continent. So from a military perspective, they've
1:42:54
also earned it,
1:42:55
Adam Curry: they've earned it, it's fair and square, they
1:42:58
deserve it.
1:43:00
John C Dvorak: A couple of things in there. First of all,
1:43:02
she's with the McCain institute at ASU. Yeah,
1:43:05
Adam Curry: danger Will Robinson McCain, who went in there with
1:43:10
Vicki and with Lindy Hop, Lady G. Graham. And now cookies, the
1:43:14
whole my Don group 2014. They they they made a coup happen.
1:43:22
John C Dvorak: And secondly, the this idea that these the nuclear
1:43:29
weapons that were taken out of Ukraine, were Russian there
1:43:32
weren't they weren't made daring. Yes, there were a bunch
1:43:37
of Russian nukes that were positioned. They were position
1:43:41
there, they were not really owned by Ukraine if we became a
1:43:44
sovereign nation, and so they had to pull them out. They just
1:43:47
had to because it was be dangerous as per proliferation
1:43:50
just to let these things exist. And it had nothing to do with
1:43:54
them protecting themselves with nukes. So this bullcrap, so
1:43:59
let's turn the tables and ask the guy who's the Council on
1:44:02
Foreign Relations is your Georgetown, Professor Bob about
1:44:06
the whole thing to get an official the official take
1:44:10
because I think he would be the one with a with a would be a
1:44:14
mouthpiece for the intelligence groups, as opposed to this crazy
1:44:18
woman who just by the way, this went on for the night to have
1:44:22
clips of and she just goes nuts about Yeah, good. They earned
1:44:26
her we should go load him up and we should we are gonna do
1:44:30
anything.
1:44:31
Adam Curry: Their meanings.
1:44:34
Unknown: All right, Charles, to you. What's your response? Has
1:44:37
Ukraine earned it?
1:44:38
I'm all for helping Ukraine and doing our best to enable Ukraine
1:44:43
to recover as much of its territory as possible, hopefully
1:44:46
all of its territory. But I part ways with Evelyn on the question
1:44:51
of whether NATO should open its doors and offer membership to
1:44:55
Ukraine. At this point, President Biden his NATO allies
1:44:59
are helping Ukraine defend itself. But they're not going to
1:45:02
war to defend Ukraine, in part because they've made a judgment
1:45:07
that they're not ready to see NATO go to war with Russia, risk
1:45:11
World War Three over Ukraine. And we need to keep in mind that
1:45:15
if NATO does admit Ukraine, and a single bomb were to fall on
1:45:20
Keith, we would have a treaty based obligation to go to war
1:45:23
with Russia. Secondly, I think that we see that this is a war
1:45:29
that is going to go on for a long time. We don't know how to
1:45:31
how it will end. We need to keep open the prospect for some sort
1:45:36
of ceasefire, perhaps an RMS system in which we might need
1:45:39
Russia to play ball much harder to get them to play ball. Two
1:45:43
final reasons. One is there's no consensus in NATO about mitting
1:45:48
Ukraine. NATO strongest suit right now is its unity. And I
1:45:52
don't think we want to interject this debate right before the
1:45:55
summit in July and go into that summit with disunity.
1:46:02
Adam Curry: Ah, see the disunity right there in the program?
1:46:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so you have the official that's I consider
1:46:10
that the official opinion. Dan, long time. So in other words,
1:46:15
there's no do not get in NATO at the at this point. There's no
1:46:19
way and this war is going on forever. So get your pocketbooks
1:46:23
out.
1:46:25
Adam Curry: Luckily, NPR is going to give us a breakdown of
1:46:30
how the spring offensive is going. Did you know it was well
1:46:32
underway? John's spring offensive? Spring Offensive is
1:46:35
raucous
1:46:35
John C Dvorak: I understand yes, the spring of it is well
1:46:38
underway and the Ukrainians are kicking butt.
1:46:41
Adam Curry: Well. Listen to this. Just the beginning. Like a
1:46:45
minute and a half of this report from NPR. My buddy Dave Jones
1:46:48
sent this to me. Now just imagine they're reporting on a
1:46:52
soccer match cranes plans for a spring offensive as spring turns
1:46:56
to summer, where does this effort stand?
1:46:58
Unknown: Well, are you at this point, we're a little bit over a
1:47:00
week into it. It's limited progress, very tough going. The
1:47:05
Russian troops are dug in, and they're waiting with minefields
1:47:08
and trenches and airpower. Every village is being contested. The
1:47:14
Ukrainians are trying to advance along three separate lines, one
1:47:17
to the east, two to the southeast, they're probably
1:47:20
doing best in this sort of middle line. They're working
1:47:22
their way down a small river, and they've taken several
1:47:25
villages along the way. Overall, the Ukrainian military says
1:47:28
they've taken about roughly 40 square miles. So they are moving
1:47:33
forward. But it's a slow pace, and they have not approached any
1:47:36
of the key towns or cities that they'll need to really make this
1:47:40
a success. So Tom,
1:47:42
what are you hearing about the additional support that might be
1:47:44
coming to Ukraine from the US?
1:47:47
Adam Curry: Yes, we're getting the other teams update here.
1:47:51
John C Dvorak: So we have they've taken 40 square miles.
1:47:54
Yes. 40
1:47:55
Adam Curry: miles of through the middle line, the left line, the
1:47:58
Unknown: no towns is just 40 miles of empty fields. That's
1:48:02
Adam Curry: right. That's right. And there's more coming 40 miles
1:48:05
of raw land, and it's all about land.
1:48:10
Unknown: Okay. Yeah. All right,
1:48:13
to really make this a success. Tommy,
1:48:15
Tom, what are you hearing that might be coming to Ukraine from
1:48:19
the US and other allies.
1:48:21
As you noted, there was a meeting in Brussels and the US
1:48:23
and its allies pledged more air defense weapons. And that's of
1:48:27
course vital because Russia continues to hammer Ukrainian
1:48:30
cities, or missiles for the Patriot batteries and other
1:48:34
energy. So air defense systems, also more tanks, armored
1:48:37
vehicles, shoulder fired missiles now bringing it all
1:48:39
Russian tanks. And finally, there are plans they announced
1:48:43
to train Ukrainian pilots on the F 16. Or plane in Denmark and
1:48:47
the Netherlands sometime this summer, but no word on when and
1:48:51
how many of the aircraft will actually get to Ukraine. And
1:48:55
that has annoyed Ukrainian officials and some defense
1:48:58
analysts who said we need these planes much earlier. Now you're
1:49:02
looking at probably sometime next year
1:49:04
Adam Curry: defense analysts. They're angry because we can't
1:49:07
get new gear fast enough. We need to spend spend spend. So
1:49:12
yeah, this is going to be a very long spending process. I think
1:49:15
you're completely right. You can call it a war, clearly about 40
1:49:20
miles of turf.
1:49:21
Unknown: But it's your turf. 40 miles a golf course.
1:49:25
Adam Curry: It's just here to empty our pockets into the
1:49:28
military industrial complex and enter the spy spook master
1:49:32
Richard Engel who has an exclusive one on one one on one
1:49:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this guy was on you know I've been seeing
1:49:41
him on and off I wish I had some clips but yeah, I'm glad you got
1:49:44
him
1:49:44
Adam Curry: actually. No, we have clip custodians. We have
1:49:48
clip collectors this clip collector Steve I think and he
1:49:51
got two clips of the one on one
1:49:54
Unknown: Ukraine tonight is in a full scale fight to take back
1:49:57
Russian
1:49:57
Adam Curry: listen to the sound effects are groovy Hey, this is
1:50:00
how you do report people put some machine gunfire in Ukraine
1:50:03
tonight
1:50:04
Unknown: is in a full scale fight to take back Russian
1:50:07
occupied land.
1:50:09
John C Dvorak: Does he have a gun battery behind him? What's
1:50:11
the deal? Yeah, this
1:50:12
Adam Curry: is what you do is called B roll.
1:50:15
Unknown: pivotal moment for our interview with Ukrainian
1:50:16
president Volodymyr Zelensky. At the presidential compound didn t
1:50:20
and we are now in the early days of this long anticipated counter
1:50:25
offensive. Yes.
1:50:26
Adam Curry: How's it going? Yeah, no more than once. She
1:50:28
did. Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I thought it was an
1:50:31
offensive. I thought was the spring offense. Is it always
1:50:34
been counter offensive? Did I did I misunderstand that? You
1:50:40
mentioned it. I thought it was the spring offensive. Not
1:50:43
John C Dvorak: that I thought it was offensive to but and we
1:50:45
could be wrong. We could better but it could have been it kind
1:50:47
of offensive maybe a term they used in there. All right. Well,
1:50:50
well.
1:50:50
Adam Curry: It's a pivotal moment
1:50:52
Unknown: Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky at the
1:50:54
presidential compound didn t and we are now in the early days of
1:50:58
this long anticipated counter offensive. How's it going? Yeah,
1:51:03
no
1:51:03
more than once you did that level, but I cannot give you all
1:51:05
the details. We're both defensive and offensive actions.
1:51:12
That things look not bad. Not bad, generally positive.
1:51:18
Adam Curry: Not Bad Things look bad. I love how NBC got this. I
1:51:24
mean, surely they have better translators on stuff. It seems
1:51:28
odd that you would choose this guy but me it's just me. So
1:51:30
Unknown: defensive and offensive actions is for a reason.
1:51:34
Adam Curry: Always. Everything's for a reason. What do you think?
1:51:36
Okay, well,
1:51:36
John C Dvorak: it would stylist. Think about this because this
1:51:39
guy is dynamite. He's got the deep accent. He sounds like some
1:51:44
sort of Boris guy from Akari. He's cartoony is very cartoony
1:51:48
Adam Curry: things going bad, bad, bad, bad. Would you like
1:51:51
some borscht? I'm sorry,
1:51:56
Unknown: that things look not bad. I would say is generally
1:52:01
positive. But it's difficult, oh, national declaration, our
1:52:05
heroic people, our troops, who are now at the front of the
1:52:10
frontline might are facing very tough resistance. You understand
1:52:16
why she pro rata because for Russia to lose this campaign to
1:52:20
Ukraine. Separate I would say actually means losing the world.
1:52:27
President Solinsky also had a dire warning, he blamed Russia
1:52:30
for blowing up a dam which Russia denies flooding dozens of
1:52:34
villages and tells us the next Russian target is the Zapper
1:52:38
Reja nuclear power plant.
1:52:41
Russia does want to blow up the station.
1:52:43
Why would they want to do that?
1:52:47
Adam Curry: Why? Why would they want to do that? No. For the
1:52:49
same reason they blew up the dam. Of course, that makes
1:52:51
nothing but sense, don't we?
1:52:53
Unknown: Because like with them, they are not interested in
1:52:57
Ukraine. Securities like Ukraine. visibility's they
1:53:03
always need instability here and wants the role to pressure
1:53:07
Ukraine to stop the conflict complete.
1:53:12
Adam Curry: So that is the official CIA message as far as
1:53:15
I'm concerned.
1:53:16
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, one thing I want to mention, yes, I
1:53:20
have a second is that the Russians? have long since taken
1:53:26
over that. That whole power plant, yeah, the whole area is
1:53:30
theirs. And so they would be blowing themselves up. If they
1:53:37
blew that up in there, and they're maintaining it for a
1:53:39
reason, and they could if they wanted to cause that some
1:53:43
Adam Curry: just turn it off. They don't have to turn it off.
1:53:46
Turn it off.
1:53:49
John C Dvorak: So this is this is Ukrainian operation of trying
1:53:52
to they want to attack it or something to get to I don't know
1:53:57
what they're up to.
1:53:58
Adam Curry: Come on, John. But okay, our guys Catholics in
1:54:02
action. Hello.
1:54:03
John C Dvorak: That's okay. Now, I was thinking about this two
1:54:09
$70 billion dollars worth of American money that's going over
1:54:14
there in one form or another, and then being distributed to
1:54:18
Africa. Is it possible that the CIA that there's not too much
1:54:22
complaining about this as let's just say the CIA is the
1:54:26
middleman as the arms dealer to sell the $70 billion worth of
1:54:32
arms or at least half of it? Let's say 35 billion to Africa
1:54:35
or maybe 100 billion in gray market sales and return that 100
1:54:41
billion to our coffers. So the 70 billion investment actually
1:54:46
is is is money well spent. It's an investment a dream
1:54:50
Adam Curry: on that's all going to the big guy 10% for the big
1:54:55
guy. What do we talk to our coffers? What? What is that ever
1:55:00
happened? Oh, here America, we just got we got some money back
1:55:03
for you. Unlikely. Here's the second part of this. He says
1:55:08
Unknown: Russia is getting desperate as more Western
1:55:11
military aid is coming. Today, the US and other allies agreed
1:55:15
to train Ukrainian pilots to operate F sixteens. But it's
1:55:19
still unclear when they'll arrive. And how many you've been
1:55:23
talking about planes since day one. I remember seeing you the
1:55:28
very early days of the war in this building in the basement.
1:55:32
Now they're somewhere in the pipeline,
1:55:35
John C Dvorak: waist up. What was angled doing there in the
1:55:40
first place it very early days in the basement, the very early
1:55:43
days in the basement as you who was getting briefed
1:55:47
Adam Curry: it of course, and how come they're not in the
1:55:50
basement anymore? My question. Back to Back to Richard Engel
1:55:56
are our expert on the ground, wasn't he? In the My Dawn as
1:56:00
well?
1:56:02
John C Dvorak: I don't remember that he was or not, but
1:56:04
probably.
1:56:05
Unknown: I remember seeing you the very early days of the war
1:56:08
in this building in the basement. Now they're somewhere
1:56:13
in the pipeline. What has been the effect of having weapons
1:56:17
rolled out like this given slice by slice over time, though,
1:56:22
surely,
1:56:23
it's prolonged the war. Ducky, the actual if we are supplied
1:56:29
with the machinery that is currently held by our partners,
1:56:33
we will be the Foster.
1:56:35
We also asked about comments from former President Trump and
1:56:38
Governor DeSantis questioning American support for Ukraine.
1:56:42
President Solinsky invited both to come here and said unless
1:56:46
Vladimir Putin is stopped in this country, there'll be a
1:56:49
wider war with NATO.
1:56:50
Adam Curry: Ah, there it is. Yes. So it doesn't really
1:56:54
matter. If they're in NATO or not, they're coming. The
1:56:57
Russians are coming. The Russians are coming. The
1:56:59
Russians are coming. The Russians are coming. wider war,
1:57:02
it's going to be everywhere. Get ready, Holland, your next. I
1:57:09
have. Unbelievable. So a delegation of African nations
1:57:14
went to Ukraine and met with the result that President Solinsky
1:57:20
Unknown: and they could do the deal to get those arms down
1:57:22
there.
1:57:23
Adam Curry: Well, it was billed as a mediation mission to get
1:57:29
some kind of peace because you know, the Oh, that's right.
1:57:32
Yeah. Just began a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, they haven't,
1:57:34
you know, they got some issues. They can't they're there. People
1:57:36
can't eat wheat, they want their wheat. They want their wheat
1:57:39
they can't eat. But I
1:57:42
Unknown: love sorghum. I love
1:57:45
Adam Curry: douchebag dog from France. 24. Our favorite. He
1:57:50
says something here that is just too funny when it comes to when
1:57:53
it comes to mainstream media, and how they view things
1:57:57
particularly fairness and neutrality. This kind of takes
1:58:00
the cake
1:58:01
Unknown: Victor, our international affairs
1:58:02
commentator, Douglas Herbert, hello to you. There are some
1:58:06
critics over this delegation. Some say it's the wrong group.
1:58:08
And some say it's at the worst time. Why is that?
1:58:11
Well, and you're right. The critics have been unsparing and
1:58:14
the critics mainly obviously Ukraine, but also in the US,
1:58:17
Europe, members of NATO. What are they been saying the
1:58:19
criticism ranges from? This is a laughingstock mediation, Mission
1:58:24
mediation and quotes to they have absolutely no leverage
1:58:28
compared to the real global powers such as China, which
1:58:30
could have some bearing on this conflict if it really had the
1:58:34
will or the political will, to they are not neutral. This is
1:58:37
where the criticism is. I'll start with the we are not
1:58:40
neutral plank. You have six nations taking part in this
1:58:44
mission. And what's interesting is one more than a dozen African
1:58:47
nations failed to condemn the Russian invasion. Early on early
1:58:52
in the days last year, UN resolution. Four of the nations
1:58:56
on this mission abstained from that resolution condemning
1:58:59
Russia's invasion. So you have one of the biggest ones, if not
1:59:02
the biggest one in South Africa, you have Senegal, you have the
1:59:05
Republic of Congo, and you have Uganda, those four nations that
1:59:09
is four out of the six on this team refused to vote to refuse
1:59:12
to vote abstain from condemning. You do have to who were
1:59:16
represented in this delegation, Egypt, in Zambia, and they did
1:59:20
vote to condemn Russia's invasion. So you have this
1:59:22
neutrality problem here. A delegation whose members are not
1:59:26
seen as neutral and at worst, seen as beholden to Moscow for
1:59:31
various things from as you mentioned, dependence on grain
1:59:34
and fertilizer in the goodwill of leji Amir Putin,
1:59:38
Adam Curry: so help me understand if there's a vote to
1:59:41
condemn Russia and you say, You know what, I'm not going to
1:59:45
vote. Isn't that the definition of being neutral?
1:59:50
Unknown: That's what neutrality I would say
1:59:52
Adam Curry: that's what neutrality is. But no in the in
1:59:56
the eyes of the of the mainstream media. Okay. douche
2:00:00
bag dog that you're now a puppet yeah
2:00:03
Unknown: be a Putin puppet and
2:00:04
Adam Curry: you're Vladimir Putin puppet. The the whole idea
2:00:08
of neutrality is you know what I'm not for or against anybody
2:00:11
in this. I'm neutral. That's what Switzerland did now we're
2:00:15
neutral. Give us your money. We're neutral. So this is it's
2:00:21
just so sad. Yeah. Wow. And then of course, you know, we got to
2:00:27
throw some more nuke nuke fear in
2:00:29
Unknown: there Latimer Putin's new statements about nuclear
2:00:31
weapons, and his possible response
2:00:34
if Ukraine receives NATO 16 fighter jets ABCDE and panel is
2:00:39
in Ukraine for us this morning with the latest. Ian Good
2:00:41
Adam Curry: morning. Good morning.
2:00:42
Unknown: Yeah, good morning works that's right. The first
2:00:44
Russian tactical nukes have now been deployed in Belarus to the
2:00:47
north of Ukraine but
2:00:49
their tactical
2:00:50
Adam Curry: he's just making it up as you go tactical nukes I
2:00:53
don't even know what that means anymore. Tech Whoa, would you
2:00:56
use open a can
2:00:58
John C Dvorak: i This is a bottle of origin sparkling
2:01:01
water, who origin
2:01:02
Adam Curry: origin? And is it basically just fizzy water
2:01:04
expensive with a nice label?
2:01:07
John C Dvorak: It's in a label could be better. It's not as
2:01:10
fizzy as I like our back to the tactical
2:01:14
Unknown: nukes truce to the north of Ukraine. But it's also
2:01:17
effectively moving the weapons onto the border of three NATO
2:01:20
countries as well Bluejeans claiming that they'd only be
2:01:23
used in the event of a threat to the Russian state. But remember,
2:01:26
he invaded Ukraine in the first place because he falsely claimed
2:01:29
it was a threat to the Russian state. This isn't the first time
2:01:32
of course, are these arrays now? Throwing in the word falsely,
2:01:36
Adam Curry: yes, falsely falsely claimed.
2:01:38
John C Dvorak: Why did they just say claims become claims as a
2:01:42
threat? That's bad enough but falsely claims, it's that means
2:01:46
he's insincere. Does that mean he's insincere when he claims
2:01:49
something?
2:01:50
Adam Curry: Good point. I love your linguistics
2:01:52
Unknown: Russian state. But remember, he invaded Ukraine in
2:01:55
the first place because he falsely claimed it was a threat
2:01:58
to the Russian state. This isn't the first time of course, that
2:02:01
he's raised the specter of a nuclear attack as a threat in
2:02:04
this war. And this deployment is just the first wave with more to
2:02:07
come. The Biden administration says it's closely monitoring the
2:02:10
situation, but for now says there's no reason to adjust
2:02:14
America's nuclear posture. Meanwhile, Ukraine's allies
2:02:17
preparing to start training pilots on f 16 and other fighter
2:02:21
jets, which could be delivered to Ukraine as early as late
2:02:24
summer. Russia's saying that it will try to attack those
2:02:27
aircraft with Putin warning there's a serious danger that
2:02:30
NATO could be pulled further into the war. Meanwhile, Ukraine
2:02:34
is saying that it's made further small advances in its counter
2:02:37
offensive. And this morning though the British military the
2:02:40
British Ministry of Defence assessing the Russia likely has
2:02:43
a temporary advantage in the battles in the south especially
2:02:47
by increased use of air power in particular attack helicopters.
2:02:51
Adam Curry: Oh attack helicopters that's the next one
2:02:54
we need some helicopter action what a scam this thing is such a
2:03:00
scam. You
2:03:00
Unknown: think what a scam?
2:03:02
Adam Curry: I mean? It's an op and this is a scop is horrible.
2:03:06
Scam op. It's just it's just more more more more more and
2:03:10
they're getting crappy F 16. We know they're not getting the
2:03:12
good stuff. You have the older f6 teens,
2:03:15
John C Dvorak: and they gotta be taken out of service eventually.
2:03:18
Adam Curry: Yes, well, you have to make room for the new ones
2:03:20
but new gear. Yeah, and all all the defense ministers meeting in
2:03:26
Vilnius. Oh yes, the only US Vilnius and Vilnius look at some
2:03:30
more money How do we get some money out of there may a lot of
2:03:33
shoulder back slapping going on there
2:03:37
Unknown: Ah don't know. All right. Yeah, I'm in the Ukraine
2:03:44
for that is
2:03:45
Adam Curry: that is kind of the way I do it. Wait, I have one
2:03:47
more. One more. There's, this is a drone clip. It's always always
2:03:51
interesting to hear a drone clip
2:03:52
Unknown: tonight new details of the dramatic moment Russian
2:03:55
soldier Ruslan Anat, in surrenders on the battlefield to
2:03:58
a Ukrainian drone.
2:04:02
Adam Curry: The drone, yeah, he surrendered to a drone.
2:04:05
Unknown: This video given to ABC News by the Ukrainian army's
2:04:08
92nd brigade begins with a different Russian soldier
2:04:11
running through the trenches amid fierce fighting, they're
2:04:14
back moot last month, the drone drops an explosive device just a
2:04:18
few feet away, knocking into the ground and eventually killing
2:04:22
him. That's when annotating emerge from a tunnel in the
2:04:25
trenches. realizing he's the last man standing he used his
2:04:28
hand signals to surrender to the drone shaking his head and
2:04:32
crossing his arms in an X. The Ukrainians attach a note to the
2:04:35
drone in Russian saying surrender follow the drone, and
2:04:39
it reads it and appears to a crock of crap story. moving side
2:04:45
to side to signaling No he won't. He makes a treacherous
2:04:48
walk half a mile across the open battlefield over the bodies of
2:04:52
his fallen comrades. At one point artillery fire narrowly
2:04:56
missing him. The Ukrainians claiming it was rushing fire to
2:05:00
Close to Ukrainian trenches he surrenders and is taken
2:05:03
prisoner. Yeah, and you can also Nicolas the Ukrainians recording
2:05:07
this video. He says simply, I am Anna Tim Ruslan Nikolayevich. A
2:05:11
soldier of the Russian army, the drone saved my life today.
2:05:16
Adam Curry: Follow the drone imagine
2:05:19
John C Dvorak: just take out his hand gun and shoot the thing
2:05:22
Adam Curry: follow the drone follow the drone Oh my goodness.
2:05:26
And how
2:05:27
John C Dvorak: did they wait they wrote a note and then they
2:05:29
flew another drone out there to deliver the note I don't get
2:05:32
that note part of the stories Call
2:05:34
Adam Curry: of Duty seven or something. I don't think this
2:05:36
just makes no sense. They put a note on the drone follow the
2:05:40
drone and it rocked and rocked back and forth. Okay, that's a
2:05:43
signal I gotta follow the drone. John this is dumped this I'm
2:05:48
gonna say it again. wag the dog doesn't real people dying, but
2:05:51
it's wag the dog. Well, this
2:05:53
John C Dvorak: the drone story is definitely out of control.
2:05:57
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd like to thank you for your
2:05:58
courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the
2:06:01
counter offensive ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend
2:06:03
on the other end that one and only Mr. Johnson
2:06:10
John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curl so in the morning nauseous to see
2:06:13
boots on the ground, feet in the air. Water and all of those
2:06:17
nights out there and in
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Adam Curry: the morning to all the trolls and the troll. Trolls
2:06:25
follow the drone 1899 vo
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John C Dvorak: dollars Day everyone says a three day
2:06:32
weekend. This is
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Adam Curry: Juneteenth today. Tomorrow. Well, it's the 18th
2:06:38
today.
2:06:40
John C Dvorak: Well, tomorrow, Sunday is the holiday.
2:06:42
Adam Curry: Okay, so All right. So all right. So there was
2:06:45
John C Dvorak: a holiday three day weekend. So we get Thursday
2:06:48
numbers. We should have it should be 2324. But it's 18.
2:06:53
Yeah. So we're down way down. And so no one's listening to the
2:06:56
show and we work. We go out of our way to work on these
2:06:59
holidays. We do and nobody cares.
2:07:02
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's all right. We Oh, that's
2:07:05
a show business. You know, you work on holidays, and we don't
2:07:08
take sabbaticals or what is it called? sabbatical?
2:07:12
Unknown: Yeah, no. hiatus,
2:07:13
Adam Curry: hiatus. hiatus, who were the shows on hiatus,
2:07:19
everybody. We're almost at the end of our season.
2:07:21
John C Dvorak: He had a season's over season going on hiatus.
2:07:25
We'll be back next
2:07:26
Adam Curry: year imagine. We love having the trolls with us
2:07:30
though. Thank you for the almost 2000 trolls who hung out and are
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sitting steady with us, we appreciate that. You can be one
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of them by going to troll room.io. That's where you can
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modern one at podcast apps.com. A whole bunch of them now have
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addict fountain curio caster is growing the format we've been
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using for a humble 16 years is now officially in heads. It's
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probably like eight or nine podcast apps now. And as I said,
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podcast apps.com You can also follow us at no agenda
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social.com People seem to like using no agenda, social account
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for you know, for getting groups together and organizing
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themselves and doing stuff, which I think is a very good
2:08:26
usage of it. I mean, I use it as kind of as an inbox. But from
2:08:30
time to time, I'll just go to the local timeline and you know,
2:08:34
once you get through the inevitable 5000 Memes because
2:08:38
yeah, oh, we have a community let me upload memes all day.
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means
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Unknown: a couple of them in the newsletter once in a while.
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Adam Curry: I'm not saying they're not good, but it's like
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it's there are producers out there? Who muscly do Oh, that
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must be 100 a day. Oh, I got another good meme. Gotta share.
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Unknown: Gotta share movie buddy memes sting. Most of them are
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pretty
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Adam Curry: bad. But so from time to time, that's a good one.
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But I like it when people are organizing and doing stuff
2:09:07
together. That's the kind of stuff I like to see. Doesn't
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matter. You can reach us from any Mastodon account that does
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not block us for our free speech. That's what they call
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it. There's over 400 that block us were on the block list. Don't
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even investigate just block us just because someone said so.
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And you can figure it out and try it by searching for and
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following Adam and Noah in the social.com Jhansi Dvorak no
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agenda social.com As part of our value for value mission, which
2:09:38
is another reason why we're still here is because we're
2:09:41
supported by the community, the community. The producers, we
2:09:46
have no listeners, we only have producers who support us with
2:09:50
time, talent and treasure and that really is what I mean. I
2:09:53
was even this morning, you know, we've got the no agenda stream,
2:09:57
and there's all kinds of you know, shows 20 four hours a day,
2:10:00
seven days a week and Darren O'Neill is the rock roll pre
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show. And you know, we do switch over and it's more professional
2:10:07
than an actual Radio Network. Yeah, it was like Darren says
2:10:11
over to you boom, I jack in the stream switches, Matt, and this
2:10:15
is all stuff that other people have done for us. Because if we
2:10:18
had to pay for it, it would have never happened ever. So we're
2:10:22
highly appreciative. All these producers who help us out
2:10:25
sending a story sending us clips, giving us their
2:10:29
expertise. Everybody's an expert at something. And one of the
2:10:31
expertise is a number of people have is creating artwork. And we
2:10:36
are one of the few shows that has changing new artwork for
2:10:39
every single episode. And we'd like to thank and highlight the
2:10:44
artist who does that for the previous episode. That was
2:10:47
915 64 1564 episodes of this show. We titled that one Zombie
2:10:53
Town. And the art came to us from Dame Kenny Ben, which was
2:10:58
just a beautiful a beautiful piece popped like crazy, because
2:11:03
had a white background. I love that and it was a bowl full of
2:11:07
eyeballs. Which now what was the what was the eyeball thing
2:11:11
about? I can't remember it was it was a story. It
2:11:13
John C Dvorak: was the guy at Harvard that was selling body
2:11:15
parts I bought on Etsy and eBay.
2:11:19
Unknown: Yes. The ghoul
2:11:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so it was like guys making 100 grand a
2:11:25
year on the side besides being the head of the morgue at
2:11:29
Harvard or whatever.
2:11:30
Adam Curry: I mean, that's a little price tag little $33 for
2:11:35
all the balls ball a ball rival beautiful. Thank you, Dan. Kenny
2:11:39
been everyone's celebrated this everyone thought it was a great
2:11:43
a great choice. There were a couple other things that we
2:11:46
looked at. I had J
2:11:50
Unknown: con scaler quite fond of one piece
2:11:53
Adam Curry: while the J con sketch one I thought was kind of
2:11:55
cool because he was talking about it was the eagle American
2:11:59
Eagle. pierced by an ESG dei and an SEL arrow which was kind of a
2:12:05
symbolic thing and you pointed out that we had not spoken about
2:12:08
ESG or dei only the SEL social emotional learning and so that
2:12:14
kind of nixed that there was another one kind of behind you
2:12:18
like I liked
2:12:19
Unknown: the Bible one a little bit it'd be aI Bible
2:12:23
Adam Curry: what was that what was that about again? The
2:12:25
John C Dvorak: night goes because we talked about AI Yeah,
2:12:29
I'll be right the Bible
2:12:30
Adam Curry: yeah new religion coming Yes. Then we had some
2:12:35
zombie towns which are okay was that it? Some other AI with a
2:12:43
dinosaur Ai no agenda dinosaur. Matthew dropped Coast deer with
2:12:50
the bug guys made me laugh but it wasn't didn't really make
2:12:53
sense.
2:12:56
Unknown: It made no sense. And
2:12:58
Adam Curry: damn, Kenny Ben did give us a chuckle with the blue
2:13:01
dress. The Spotted blue dress with a cigar is even even titled
2:13:06
A cheap joke. Yeah,
2:13:09
Unknown: it was a cheap joke was a cheap joke, but
2:13:11
Adam Curry: thank you. We got we got a chuckle out of it. And was
2:13:16
that it? Pretty much think that was kind of it? Yeah,
2:13:20
John C Dvorak: I mean, the one thing there was a couple pieces
2:13:23
that was the what was the title of the show? I forgot. Zombie
2:13:28
Town Zombie Town. Yeah, I kind of like the Matthew drop co
2:13:32
Zombie Town version two of the San Francisco sign. Yeah, but
2:13:37
we're going to use Yeah, we tried to keep the DI ball art
2:13:40
was gonna win. So
2:13:41
Adam Curry: the other one is more more. D had an AI Bible,
2:13:47
which is a magic eight ball is a little a little too complicated.
2:13:51
But eight balls have been a staple. I
2:13:54
Unknown: think of art. Yes, the magic at all has
2:13:58
Adam Curry: come back from time to time. defended the show. So
2:14:01
thank you, friend to the show. Thank you damn Kenny, Ben and to
2:14:05
all the artists who are always doing fabulous work AI generated
2:14:09
or not ICU comics or Blogger. We appreciate it. You're doing
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yeoman's work. It is beautiful. It is a great way to contribute
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to the show, which as you know is time talent or treasure. And
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we do have some people who are celebrating Father's Day with us
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again we're working on Father's Day and they donated their
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treasure it is always welcomed and absolutely needed. We have
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John C Dvorak: and we've been I would like to I was somewhat
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bewildered by the fact that we got a lot of you know we had our
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judge say average donations but for Father's Day I really
2:14:46
expected someone to gift their father a knighthood and nobody
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did it.
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Adam Curry: No, no dads are on the outs man. That's that's just
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a fact of life. Yeah, Father There's no longer needed I guess
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I don't know I have no other explanation for it. But the ones
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who did donate love their dads or their the dads they are
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married to so there's there are some beautiful notes here and we
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kick it off with our first executive producer. We'd like to
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Adam Curry: ba Bob says evil COVID machine almost got me near
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death and hospitalized for 53 days. December of 21 Oh I
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remember this Tina saw my crazed fight on Instagram and started
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pulling for me Thank you Tina. My book Shake yourself free is
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following him. She saw that she was like holy crap and she was
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she was definitely lifting him up as much as possible over the
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over the interface over the Insta. His book Shake yourself
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John C Dvorak: Dame Becky's next on the list. She's in Katy
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Texas. Or K as they now say. Happy Father's Day to Sir Mike
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of the great Katy Prairie from Dame Becky. best husband and
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father ever. No jingles no karma $333.33 from Dame Becky.
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Adam Curry: Felix Rios is in San Jose California. 333 33 I do not
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have a note from Felix.
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Adam Curry: I got nothing either. So we give them a double
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John C Dvorak: banana, sir Luca of Walla Walla, Washington,
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Walla Walla, Walla Walla, good winegrowing area by the way, ITM
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chaps greetings from the south east. Here's the deal. I just
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like all day long, mainly on my iPad.
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They did dumps they call them dumps big massive dump jobs,
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jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for
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Adam Curry: Tracy Leslie is in Bremerton, Washington. 310 25.
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Must be a reason for that. It's a switcheroo note with hopes of
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being read during the show around Father's Day. Well, there
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you go. It's enfant Nailed it. Nailed it. $310.20 $5 donation
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celebration of his fatherhood magnificence, he's off often
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perplexed yet always grateful wife would like to acknowledge
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Brian stellar wit and verve and taking care of her and their
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three girls would not want you and literally could not do it
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without you. You are loved. That's a sweet note. Very nice
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note and the switcheroo my wife and three girls that means
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everyone telling him he's wrong. All the time.
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John C Dvorak: All the time. Sir, Ill Pope de ciclismo I'm
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guessing in Rio Verde, Arizona. The birth of a degree row is a
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Adam Curry: black night actually black.
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John C Dvorak: Hello gents. Thanks for your outstanding
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work. Please accept this humble donation as a token of my
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admiration for the sanity pills you provided us on a regular
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basis. Back in early May, I was unceremoniously made redundant
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at my job despite 12 years of great performance reviews and
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significant contributions to the company. If you're redundant me
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somebody else is doing your job. Why weren't they redundant?
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Yeah, because they get paid less. Yeah, but Fear not. Fear
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not Monday I'll be back into the slave force as I landed a new
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Adam Curry: you got it that means well if you want to have
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that need a little bit of goat at it you've got
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then we have a row of ducks for our first Associate Executive
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2:20:53
Alicia. In The Morning John Adam this at this past indie no
2:20:57
agenda meetup, I got the chance to look at Mimi's book too many
2:21:00
eggs too many books, too many books not too many. eggs.com
2:21:05
That book is amazing. The size of the book is small compared to
2:21:08
the amount of information contained and I love it. It's a
2:21:11
big book. I thought it was in fact when we got it it was I
2:21:16
thought it wasn't small as hefty was a nice month nice products.
2:21:20
I'll be buying myself a copy to keep I'm only 22 years old and I
2:21:24
love to cook and I practice to become a better cook every day.
2:21:28
I never knew eggs could be cooked in so many ways in this
2:21:30
book will definitely keep my breakfast interesting for quite
2:21:33
some time, not just breakfast recipes. Thank you guys for
2:21:37
putting together the best podcast in the universe. I love
2:21:39
it when John makes book and movie recommendations. If only
2:21:42
he would make a list.
2:21:44
Unknown: I'd like I'd like to order lists online.
2:21:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's plenty of no agenda book club lists, go
2:21:50
to girl this.org I think I'd like to request jobs karma from
2:21:56
my boyfriend Joshua. And if I could get a goat karma for my
2:21:59
birthday, which is on June 18. Sincerely, Alicia McComber you
2:22:03
got it. We're going to do jobs and goat together
2:22:06
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. That's
2:22:17
John C Dvorak: Ralph plain ol Ralph in Miami, Florida. 200.
2:22:21
Happy Father's Day to both of you. And all fathers and dads in
2:22:25
the no agenda nation. Please send me some Father's Day karma
2:22:28
or send some to my dad. Ralph Sr. In Miami. Yes, Ralph in
2:22:33
Miami.
2:22:34
Adam Curry: You got it, Ralph. You've got karma. By the way.
2:22:38
Those of you still here the magic numbers are coming up soon
2:22:42
in the donation segment along with our special interview. Amy
2:22:46
Lynn in Cold Spring Minnesota $200 Associate Executive
2:22:51
Producer ship and she is switcheroo in that for Dan the
2:22:54
man and says oh that's her smokin hot husband Dan the man
2:22:57
happy Father's Day my smokin hot husband Dan the man. You're an
2:23:01
amazing dad to our sassy human resource Kocaeli think this is
2:23:06
you pronounce that Kaylee with an ex saili I think it's
2:23:10
Caitlyn. I
2:23:11
Unknown: think it's che che che li che li y l i
2:23:16
Adam Curry: interesting. That's an interesting have a cool name.
2:23:19
Yeah. So like, like kind of like an Elon Musk kid name in a way.
2:23:25
Just saying. That's cool. And thank you for all the support in
2:23:30
my new business venture. We love you your wife Amy Lynn not a
2:23:34
stripper strippers. It's a good strippers,
2:23:40
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
2:23:54
then elu patcon there you go you
2:23:57
Adam Curry: finally get to week two
2:23:58
Unknown: yeah every week
2:24:00
Adam Curry: every week
2:24:01
John C Dvorak: in Lakewood, Colorado and jobs coming for all
2:24:03
you job hunters out there for a competitive edge. Go to Image
2:24:07
makers inc.com For all your executive resume and job search
2:24:12
needs are just fine little patcon on the show's executive
2:24:18
producer list and run a search very nice so Okay, whether she
2:24:23
gets karma she needs jobs karma for when
2:24:27
Adam Curry: we yeah, we can do the jobs Carmen no problem
2:24:30
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for jobs.
2:24:37
John C Dvorak: Well, that was me cleaning up on this donation
2:24:40
every week at 20 bucks,
2:24:41
Adam Curry: I think is probably doing good business for somehow
2:24:44
which is okay by me. I got no problem with it. Oh, boy,
2:24:49
something looks like something is messed up with my meet up
2:24:51
reports. I'm gonna have to look for this. Well, good news,
2:24:54
because we're going to go straight through we have no nice
2:24:57
things. And we do have some meetup, reports and meetup
2:24:59
promos.
2:25:00
John C Dvorak: No nice things on Father's Day. I
2:25:02
Adam Curry: know I know it's a little disappointing but John is
2:25:05
going to take us through the hundreds since we did promise to
2:25:09
mention all these Father's Day donations and through to the 50s
2:25:14
and here we go.
2:25:16
John C Dvorak: Frankie T starts us off in London, UK $156.40
2:25:21
Nisa de douching
2:25:25
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:25:27
John C Dvorak: Terry Wilson Langley, Washington $150. Lydia
2:25:32
Terry B. Dominic Ali and Clifton Park, New York. 133 33. And this
2:25:38
is Happy Father's Day to shore geek heretic, Crystal Garza in
2:25:43
Dripping Springs right down the road is right down the road
2:25:48
117 18 And this is a switcheroo credit to Gilberto Garza. He
2:25:54
needs it he douching
2:25:57
Unknown: you've been D deuced.
2:25:59
John C Dvorak: Happy Father's anonymous in Atlanta, Georgia.
2:26:02
$101 Dame Becky and Sir Mike and Katy Texas. Happy Father's Day
2:26:08
to our number one human resource and father of 10 grand human
2:26:11
worthwhile. Chris Kinney. Chris is in a mouth Okay, Chris, sir
2:26:17
Stuart and Stafford, UK Staffordshire, UK, to my father
2:26:23
Ken, who died 22 years ago on Father's Day, playing his last
2:26:28
game of golf. Oh, wow. Let me see one out while putting on a
2:26:32
par for the 11th hole. I missed you every day. That's from susur
2:26:38
Stewart's Kevin McLaughlin, Lucas, North Carolina. And he
2:26:42
has a Father's Day call out to boobs. 808 Yes. Central Jersey
2:26:49
meetup in Portland, New Jersey. Switcheroo coaster donation from
2:26:53
the Central Jersey meetup for Craig Cut. Cut caccia Christine
2:26:59
Kalba in Kelowna, Kelowna BC, and that's a Happy Father's Day
2:27:06
to her smoking out husband, Ian. Sir Rick in Arlington,
2:27:11
Washington, who kitchen his name every time now. 69960 Rick, and
2:27:19
congratulations to Jay for doing that. All Rick Harkins in Vienna
2:27:23
new start in Austria, Vienna news dot Vienna news dot 6767
2:27:32
Read a Harrington in Sparks Nevada six 533 Happy Father's
2:27:37
Day John and Adam and all the dads to Kevin O'Brien is Chicago
2:27:40
Illinois. 606 sure b and a Nashville Tennessee 5993 which
2:27:47
is eggs over easy. Sir Brian Tobias and in Gardner, Kansas
2:27:52
5888. Sir Doherty and Stephen City, Virginia 2678 Happy
2:27:59
Father's Day not Jake. Richard Futter in London UK Sir Richard
2:28:05
5155 10 James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey. 5510.
2:28:11
That's double nickels on the dime. Dean Roker 5510 Jennifer
2:28:15
Hanson and Braintree, Massachusetts 5510 wishing the
2:28:20
best dad in the universe Don Hansen. Happy Father's Day. Love
2:28:27
him very much. Troy funderburk in Spokane, Washington, 55.
2:28:31
Barron Henry and Rancho Palos Verdes 5242 Bart Viken in
2:28:37
Haarlem, Netherlands he's a man overboard who's back he says a
2:28:44
de douching
2:28:44
Adam Curry: says he listened from the Early Start lost
2:28:46
interest started listening again a few years later bought a
2:28:49
couple mugs from the no agenda store which by the way is before
2:28:53
the store and the and the artists mainly never donated.
2:28:58
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:29:02
John C Dvorak: caller Warnock in Edmonton Oklahoma. switch router
2:29:06
my dad David merchants toward his knighthood love you Father's
2:29:12
love you Father. The Father pops Father's Day pops. We love you
2:29:15
and appreciate everything you do. John Ford in McKinney,
2:29:19
Texas. 51 for John arcade Jr. I guess. Thomas Ballmer in Iowa
2:29:26
City, Iowa Happy Father's Day to my dad John Ballmer. 5005 or
2:29:31
5050 Actually, Andrew Ben's in Imperial Missouri. That's 5005
2:29:37
Kimberly Burton in Greenville, Michigan is 50 with a Father's
2:29:40
Day to her husband, Jodi, thank you so much for being a
2:29:44
wonderful dad to our boys. Michael McKinnis, Iowa, Kansas.
2:29:48
These are all 50s is 58. You're on the birthday list. Stevens
2:29:53
Schumacher and Xenia Ohio 50 Peter odo enriched New York,
2:29:58
Joan Paul's in her Nando Beach, Florida, Nathan Cochran in
2:30:03
Hollywood, Florida. Alexandre ver de HO and Gig Harbor
2:30:08
Washington gadget freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois, Scott
2:30:14
lavender in Montgomery, Texas, Cory Bennett in Denver,
2:30:18
Colorado, Travis more in Gibsonville, North Carolina
2:30:22
Happy Father's Day to the best podcast and all the dads out
2:30:25
there. Now Alexis Robles in Chula Vista, California. John
2:30:31
Emma do not a lady. Thanks guys. Well, Lexus's would probably be
2:30:42
referred to as the lady a lot. I'll try to remember sir Eric in
2:30:48
Murfreesboro, Tennessee 50. It was to give a posh Miss Happy
2:30:53
Father's Day to his dad Ben. You're loved and missed every
2:30:56
day. The Anne Shipley in Covington, Washington. 50. Sir
2:31:02
spud the mighty in Marietta, Georgia or GRE ring and Roth in
2:31:07
Saugus, California and last on our list is Baron Allen being up
2:31:11
there in Beaverton Oregon. I want to thank these people for
2:31:13
making show 1565 a great show thank you very much.
2:31:18
Adam Curry: Yes, we really appreciate it especially for
2:31:21
executive and Associate Executive Producers Those are
2:31:23
real titles you can use them anywhere the titles are
2:31:26
recognized IMDb, LinkedIn, your resume, everything counts. Also
2:31:31
thank you so much to people who come in under $50 You are the
2:31:34
ones who are on sustaining donations these are very much
2:31:38
appreciated and you know from time to time checking count
2:31:40
before you know what you reach that knighthood or that Dame
2:31:43
hood thank you all so much for supporting the best podcast in
2:31:45
the universe episode
2:31:52
Unknown: we go out for yet people in the mouth
2:32:14
Adam Curry: nice little lesson. We got to jet Ron and Chester
2:32:18
are celebrating today sir Jeff tow wig. I think he's
2:32:21
celebrating on the 20th lauric hurricanes wishes his smokin hot
2:32:24
girlfriend Eva Happy birthday, she turns 46 on the 21st Derek
2:32:28
by the way wishes his son Brexit a happy birthday on the 22nd
2:32:32
Michael Guinness is turning 50 and Blake wishes his smokin hot
2:32:35
girlfriend and future smokin hot wife marry a happy birthday she
2:32:38
turns 28 Happy birthday from everybody. Here's the best
2:32:41
podcast in the universe. Thank you sparkles for the chaos, a
2:32:47
sparkles of chaos for the art you sent. It was very beautiful.
2:32:50
I appreciated that no one said
2:32:59
Unknown: Now it's very important
2:33:01
Adam Curry: to understand that throughout the years, we've
2:33:03
created these no agenda meetups, which initially was something
2:33:07
John and I would go to and there would be a whole bunch of people
2:33:10
getting together and then you know we we'd hang out and we do
2:33:13
this still do that from time to time when appropriate when
2:33:16
applicable. Of course, you know, it's very busy and We're old
2:33:19
now. It takes a little bit more to get us out of the house. But
2:33:24
But what what happened is this was such a popular idea. People
2:33:29
really needed that connection amongst each other you had you
2:33:32
are a community, you're part of no agenda nation, people have a
2:33:35
lot to discuss. And these days, particularly after COVID It's
2:33:38
needed more and more you need a place to go and hang out with
2:33:41
people. By the way, people have also met at meetups and have
2:33:45
gone on to get married and have kids. This is a great place just
2:33:49
to get out. You don't have to worry about and you can discuss
2:33:52
anything. Nothing is on or off the table. There's no condemning
2:33:56
of anything everybody can have an opinion. It's all it's all
2:34:00
beautiful. It's very, very special the way no agenda
2:34:03
meetups are run. And before you knew it, we were doing that on
2:34:07
meetup.com and then Mimi was running that and it was That's a
2:34:11
horrible service and then insects. Now knights are Daniel
2:34:15
he created no agenda meetup.com It's become a thing. And today
2:34:20
we have quite a number of promos and meet up reports and let's go
2:34:23
to the Midcoast maniacs first.
2:34:26
Unknown: Adam and John it's Brian from the Midcoast maniacs
2:34:29
meetup and there were four of us here tonight. We're having a
2:34:32
great time with pizza and salad from Dame head gardener which
2:34:35
I'm gonna pass the phone to, but la Manyana it's damn head
2:34:39
gardener. This is Ivana this bag
2:34:44
douchebag future Jame
2:34:48
no deducing. We had a great time. We were looking forward to
2:34:54
the Scarborough meet up down south pretty soon in northern
2:34:58
Massachusetts and Other meetup here in the mid coast
2:35:01
Adam Curry: so Brian and Susie Of course we know them did a
2:35:04
personal meet up with them many many years ago Zombie Town says
2:35:07
Unknown: aloha in the morning everybody sir Ernesto here
2:35:12
movers number seven. Mrs. Number seven number seven in the
2:35:26
morning John and Adam and I all know each other nation. We're at
2:35:30
the Red 33 Red 33 Casanova 33 that looking at Bruce Cathy
2:35:35
books to check out harmonic 371244 energy grid and
2:35:40
especially harmonics
2:35:42
Adam Curry: thank you for your coverage in the moment I'm not
2:35:48
exactly sure but I think we just got brainwashed. I'm not sure
2:35:51
exactly what that was about. Kingston
2:35:55
Unknown: I TM get mo nation. It's the one and only a white
2:36:00
Mike coming at you from the Kingstowne house party meetup Oh
2:36:04
yes, the pillows were fluffed the curtains were steamed.
2:36:08
Champagne was on ice. It was a party fit for Queen Ursula
2:36:12
herself. I even to take JC D's watch out for the microphones
2:36:17
literally strapped a Neumann mic to the ceiling fans so that that
2:36:22
could add just a little bit of pizzazz. But no one dared show
2:36:27
up. Unfortunately. I get it. It's a Thursday. I'll try some
2:36:31
other configurations. In the meantime, thank you for your
2:36:35
courage.
2:36:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, this was a brand new meet up he was trying
2:36:39
at his home he uh we called him a spook Of course. He's in
2:36:42
Virginia and and next time people go to this he sounds like
2:36:46
a cool dude. And he's got Neumann mics so make sure you
2:36:49
check that out. Now always a good report coming in from the
2:36:53
indie folks. This is the indie June meetup mix.
2:36:57
Unknown: This is de Maria and this is a Sir Mark rain.
2:37:00
Dienstag has to have an amazing meetup and prodigy burger. Yeah,
2:37:04
baby from Indiana and try it out.
2:37:06
Listen up slaves. GMO is now cold biII. For bioengineering
2:37:11
meet the new boss. It's the same as the old boss
2:37:14
in the morning baby
2:37:15
powder from Indianapolis haven't had six glasses today, but it's
2:37:19
still been good.
2:37:19
Thank you for your courage. Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel. Thank
2:37:21
you for your courage in the morning. Hello. It's Christie
2:37:24
from Carmel. Hi, it's Brooke from Carmel Jason from Carmel
2:37:27
sir Betty saying hello to everybody out there. In the
2:37:31
morning swanning this is Shana from
2:37:33
Fort Wayne in the morning in the morning. Yes, sir. PBR street
2:37:36
gang. John Adams. Thank you for your courage. Hope to see you
2:37:39
soon.
2:37:40
Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne having a great time in Hindi.
2:37:43
Thank you for your courage.
2:37:44
This is serve of the Maipo and we had a fantastic meet up
2:37:48
today. Great food. Great company, so many beers to come
2:37:51
in the morning.
2:37:52
This is Nick come he had a pretty fantastic time. According
2:37:55
to Trevor, I would agree. Thank you
2:37:57
in the morning. This is Alicia. Good day to have a meet up
2:38:00
inside and the winner of the raffle. My name is Maggie
2:38:03
Delaney. I work at prodigy burger bar. And I've been
2:38:06
helping serving the nodes and a meetup group we hope that you
2:38:09
guys keep doing this because it's a great thing you guys do
2:38:11
it
2:38:18
Adam Curry: I was wondering what was going to end? Nice very
2:38:21
subliminal. Oh, no, no, no agenda. Very nice. With the
2:38:25
ozempic pilot. It's magic tune. And I love that you put your
2:38:29
server in there. That's the best way to do it. One more promo.
2:38:34
Oh, yes. Let me guess. This would be a promo for one of
2:38:39
those guys who do a meet up in Georgia. Because this is the
2:38:44
devil went down to Georgia. I think Hello promo start now
2:38:48
Unknown: in north Georgia slaves is Bob from coming. Come join us
2:38:51
this Thursday from six to eight at Cherry Street brew pub at
2:38:54
Halcyon for a monthly meetup. You can meet your fellow knights
2:38:57
dame's producers and even some douche bags over a nice cold
2:38:59
beer. Look for the table with the American flag balloons to
2:39:02
find us. See you there.
2:39:04
Adam Curry: And right now as we speak, there's a meetup going on
2:39:07
the Burke the Berkey Hui Hui. That's Albuquerque, New Mexico
2:39:11
that sir Jeff celebrating his birthday on the 20th On
2:39:14
Wednesday, the 21st. The two hot Tucson Solstice soiree will be
2:39:18
held at canyons crown in Tucson, Arizona four o'clock. Next show
2:39:23
day say hello to summer palooza. 330 Riverside Park, Oshkosh,
2:39:26
Wisconsin and the North Georgia monthly meet up as you just
2:39:30
heard, we'll be at Cherry Street brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
2:39:33
Those are the meetups but there's a lot more including
2:39:35
Batavia, Illinois, London UK conference, who's doing the
2:39:40
conference meeting on July 9, let us know go to no agenda
2:39:44
meetups.com To find out more and remember connection is
2:39:46
protection. You owe it to yourself to go to one sometimes
2:39:50
Unknown: you want to go hang out with Tyson days. You wouldn't be
2:39:57
when you won't be triggered. You will say
2:40:07
Adam Curry: is like it is always like a party and the keeper and
2:40:13
I are looking forward to the end we are going to go on a European
2:40:17
vacation this year. I think we'll be doing all the shows a
2:40:21
scheduled might take one off just one for travel day because
2:40:24
we're gonna go to Spain we're going to Italy The Netherlands
2:40:28
gonna go see all the families the old people before they die,
2:40:31
you know stuff like that.
2:40:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sounds like a Leo trip.
2:40:35
Unknown: Hey, that's mean.
2:40:39
But yeah, for ISOs
2:40:41
Adam Curry: I have three here's number one.
2:40:42
Unknown: Yes. sighs yay.
2:40:47
Adam Curry: Just always go back to the AJ. Well, you know, or,
2:40:51
or this one while I'm impressed. Okay, kinda good. And this is my
2:40:55
final one. It was all a scam.
2:40:59
John C Dvorak: Okay, well you guys gone to my Well, let's go
2:41:01
with this. Start with God. Save.
2:41:04
Unknown: God save the Queen man.
2:41:07
Adam Curry: Yes, save the queen man. Man, man.
2:41:11
Unknown: Money. Where's the money? To boomy? Yeah, it's no
2:41:15
good. And no,
2:41:16
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. Kind
2:41:20
of thing. That's the one.
2:41:23
Unknown: It's yeah, I like it.
2:41:24
Adam Curry: I mean, God Save the Queen is.
2:41:26
Unknown: God save the Queen, man.
2:41:30
It's too stupid.
2:41:31
Adam Curry: It is funny. I don't I don't. I'm torn.
2:41:34
Unknown: This is God. Save the Queen. Man. God save the Queen,
2:41:38
man.
2:41:39
Maybe you have to use I mean, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
2:41:42
no, no, no, no.
2:41:43
Adam Curry: That's gonna get used.
2:41:46
Unknown: I don't know. Okay, use God Save the Queen. The Queen
2:41:49
Adam Curry: man because it's
2:41:50
Unknown: just a scared of man. And here's what makes it work,
2:41:52
man, man.
2:41:56
Adam Curry: Crazy. Oh, luckily, we've been missing it. We got
2:42:03
another six week cycle. Did you catch the six week cycle?
2:42:09
Unknown: I can't say that I have
2:42:11
Adam Curry: a reminder for everybody.
2:42:12
John C Dvorak: And I'm not on the lookout, which is an
2:42:14
interesting point that you mentioned it.
2:42:16
Adam Curry: Well, we haven't seen it for a while the six was
2:42:18
been a perpetual cycle basically. But the six week
2:42:20
cycle is something that we were read in on the FBI in particular
2:42:26
likes to Jackson Roni
2:42:27
John C Dvorak: are technically read in on it we were informed
2:42:31
by a yes,
2:42:32
Adam Curry: yeah. Okay. informed by a producer yes informed that
2:42:37
in order to keep their budgets and their stature and their
2:42:40
quotas up the FBI every six weeks needs to scam runs a scam
2:42:47
has to some have to have some event happens so they still look
2:42:50
like they're cool and doing stuff. And they usually take
2:42:53
some you know, mildly retarded person or someone who's on drugs
2:42:57
and you know, just and Jack them all up and then give him some
2:43:00
phony baloney stuff and then and of course was social media got
2:43:05
even easier. Hey, man, post this. Yeah, what are you going
2:43:07
to do? What are you going to do? Come on post me send me a text
2:43:09
message put it on Insta.
2:43:11
Unknown: Tonight in court filings. The FBI saying social
2:43:14
media accounts tied to a Michigan man posted Nazi imagery
2:43:18
and sent messages about planning a mass shooting at a synagogue
2:43:22
INVESTIGATORS SAY they received a tip about those alleged
2:43:25
threats to a 19 year old Shawn patella allegedly writing
2:43:29
expletive this world and everything in it. I'm going to
2:43:32
start making plans soon. Just gotta buy a few more things,
2:43:36
adding I won't be taken alive. I'll make sure of that. Federal
2:43:40
agents safety Tella traded anti semitic messages on Instagram
2:43:44
with a friend overseas writing I just need a camera for streaming
2:43:48
and some more magazines don't want to run out of mags and have
2:43:52
to reload one when FBI agents searched the Telus home court
2:43:55
filings say they found unsecured weapons including a 12 gauge
2:43:59
shotgun, a rifle a pistol
2:44:01
Adam Curry: unsecured weapons I liked that that's a new offense
2:44:05
unsecured weapons when FBI used
2:44:08
John C Dvorak: in other words, he had a shotgun without a
2:44:10
without a trigger lock on it. I guess it wasn't in a safe which
2:44:15
you know who has those don't want to run out of random
2:44:19
shotgun laying around and this is now illegal and you're gonna
2:44:24
get thrown in the slammer,
2:44:25
Unknown: uh, traded anti semitic messages on Instagram with a
2:44:28
friend overseas writing. I just need a camera for streaming and
2:44:32
some more magazines don't want to run out of mags and have to
2:44:36
reload one when FBI agents searched the Telus home court
2:44:39
filings say they found unsecured weapons including a 12 gauge
2:44:43
shotgun, a rifle, a pistol plus tactical vests and a red and
2:44:47
white Nazi flag on his phone agency. They found the name of a
2:44:52
Michigan synagogue and a date March 15 2020 For the same month
2:44:57
and day as the New Zealand mosque attack 18 that killed 51
2:45:01
people. Authorities say P Tella admired the gunman who
2:45:05
specifically
2:45:06
have to have a threat. And also ideally even a discussion or a
2:45:11
plan about how you're going to carry it out.
2:45:14
The anti Defamation League says anti semitic incidents spiked
2:45:17
36% between 2021 and 2020 to the highest on record in close to 50
2:45:23
years and attorney for Paitilla declined to comment but
2:45:27
investigators say he told them he did not intend on following
2:45:30
through with the mass killings he spoke about
2:45:33
denying it is fine, but there may be a lot of countering
2:45:36
information to say well, that's just not true.
2:45:41
Adam Curry: I love the Nazi flag edition that's a new thing the
2:45:44
Nazi flag Yeah,
2:45:47
John C Dvorak: they didn't get that right he said it was a it
2:45:49
was a white and red, white and red. Where's the black?
2:45:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's not a good flag.
2:45:54
John C Dvorak: There's no white and red Nazi flag that I know
2:45:57
of.
2:45:57
Adam Curry: There's no white and red in Nazi
2:46:02
John C Dvorak: Yep, so yeah, that you know it was what would
2:46:04
call me was running the place it was more creative.
2:46:08
Adam Curry: They had
2:46:08
John C Dvorak: better material they did they really developed a
2:46:11
guys they had a better budget. I'm not sure what's going on.
2:46:14
Adam Curry: It was just more creative, though. Just more
2:46:17
creative, and it was more
2:46:18
Unknown: creative as lame. And I know what are you gonna do? I'm
2:46:21
gonna do
2:46:24
Adam Curry: I think we should honor the this man who passed
2:46:29
away
2:46:30
Unknown: tonight tributes rolling in for Daniel Ellsberg,
2:46:33
the largely unknown Pentagon analysts during the Vietnam War,
2:46:36
later labeled the most dangerous man in America by Secretary of
2:46:40
State Henry Kissinger. All after Ellsberg leaked the pentagon
2:46:43
papers to the New York Times and later, the Washington Post 7000
2:46:48
secret government pages showing the US government had been
2:46:51
misleading the public about the growing scope of America's role
2:46:55
in Vietnam, and that the military doubted its chances of
2:46:58
victory. I still
2:47:00
nothing. I did not commit espionage. As indicated by the
2:47:04
Espionage Act.
2:47:05
It led to a landmark Supreme Court decision on press freedom
2:47:08
that helped inspire a generation of investigative journalists.
2:47:12
When the Nixon administration typed newspapers from
2:47:15
publishing, the justices sided with the press and criminal
2:47:18
charges against Ellsberg were later thrown out by a judge,
2:47:22
citing in part a breaking by the White House plumbers that
2:47:25
Ellsberg former psychiatrists office, seen as a warm up to the
2:47:29
Watergate burglary that would bring down President Nixon.
2:47:32
Adam Curry: Yeah, so much for Julian Assange.
2:47:36
John C Dvorak: So I got to meet Ellsberg. Oh, nice guy. I
2:47:42
chatted with him at some event they had over here in San
2:47:44
Francisco. Larry Lessig brought him into some Oh, Larry. Good
2:47:49
old good old Larry. Larry so I don't have a clip but there was
2:47:54
a great Capehart and Brooks little thing because they go on
2:47:59
and on about what a horrible people Assange and Snowden
2:48:04
actually are and Ellsberg is great. It was just a fun he's
2:48:07
really awesome switch gears
2:48:11
Adam Curry: interesting well, that of course is because they
2:48:13
got a Republican out. You know, Pentagon Papers screwed Nixon
2:48:16
somehow in the Andrea Mitchell eludes
2:48:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, kinda was embarrassing us about all it
2:48:27
was It wasn't anything people didn't know.
2:48:29
Adam Curry: Right? I have. Do you have anything you want to
2:48:33
play us out with?
2:48:34
John C Dvorak: I can play us out with a couple of clips from the
2:48:36
Iowa meet up that we were there was actually this woman. She was
2:48:40
on PBS of all places. Iowa meet up and no, it wasn't me. It was
2:48:45
a pollster. There's a meet up going. Iowa has always meet up
2:48:48
she for the elections. And so they had they have these. This
2:48:53
pollster was a famous Republican pollster. She's talking to Trump
2:48:58
people. I have three clips, and they're worth listening to.
2:49:01
They're number two.
2:49:02
Adam Curry: Now these mega Magaz
2:49:06
John C Dvorak: yep, I would say they probably are Iowa pollster
2:49:08
PBS.
2:49:09
Unknown: JUDY WOODRUFF was in Des Moines, Iowa yesterday for
2:49:12
her America at a crossroads reporting project to listen in
2:49:16
on a couple of voter discussions led by conservative pollster
2:49:19
Sarah Longwell since it was the day of the Trump arraignment.
2:49:23
She made that the focus of the first of two reports on what I
2:49:27
will Republicans are thinking this was produced with our
2:49:30
friends at Iowa PBS.
2:49:32
Adam Curry: Yeah, we should mention that I was an important
2:49:35
states because that always indicates the the temperature of
2:49:38
the nation.
2:49:39
John C Dvorak: Well, these Republicans are are kind of
2:49:43
interesting because they have they seem to be very
2:49:46
knowledgeable what's going on and they're very skeptical of
2:49:49
everything. They're more skeptical than the average bear.
2:49:53
It seems to me. Here's clip to
2:49:54
Unknown: focus group I do with two time Trump voters. They were
2:49:59
very clear and did date mints actually made them want to
2:50:02
support Trump more? Which is really consistent? I mean, we've
2:50:06
been asking people for several months, you know, how are you?
2:50:10
How does it make you feel when you hear that Trump's data does
2:50:12
it make you want to support more support and last out of the 58
2:50:16
people that we've asked 26 of them said, it makes them want to
2:50:20
support Donald Trump more. Only two said less. They're a little
2:50:24
bit mixed on whether Trump is exactly the right person to be
2:50:28
the person who comes back but still after January 6, after the
2:50:33
indictments after everything, still a lot of support for
2:50:36
Donald Trump
2:50:37
Adam Curry: must be Nazis
2:50:41
John C Dvorak: and they won it anyway they go on and he talked
2:50:43
to all these people is very interesting that people can dig
2:50:45
out from last Wednesday's PBS NewsHour, they and then they had
2:50:49
a follow up on Thursday, I would go back and watch that it's
2:50:52
online. Now. The one that got me though, is this. This is the
2:50:55
last very short clip where they she asked him specific questions
2:50:59
and then they raised their hands. And I have to say that
2:51:03
this is to at least I was shaking my head on this one
2:51:07
because it was like, wow,
2:51:09
Unknown: that deep seated distrust extended to the 2020
2:51:13
election results and their aftermath to
2:51:16
how many of you believe Joe Biden was legitimately elected
2:51:18
president the United States How many of you believe that the
2:51:21
election was stolen? Or rigged in some way? Okay, everybody
2:51:28
100 frickin percent.
2:51:31
Everybody, everybody.
2:51:32
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, that's good. That's good. stolen,
2:51:38
stolen you election deniers, Nazis, horrible people. Someone
2:51:43
sent me a note and said, after I heard your comments about Trump
2:51:46
on the last episode, I'm thinking you're a liberal.
2:51:52
Unknown: Let's just say I don't
2:51:54
Adam Curry: know. I know. You're a liberal. I don't think so. Oh,
2:52:02
speaking of 100 frickin percent great comedian. I wish I had his
2:52:06
name here on this clip, just 43 seconds. This is my pet peeve. I
2:52:10
wouldn't say 100% 100% as 100% instead of saying absolutely
2:52:16
clearly all the way Definitely spot on.
2:52:21
Unknown: Instead of Yes. Instead of Yes. People often say they
2:52:23
don't say yes, but they say 100% Like I asked a question and they
2:52:31
give me statistics
2:52:37
instead of yes, they give me the percentage of esns mean it's
2:52:45
always it's always hungry. Sometimes it's sounds stupid.
2:52:51
Like it sounds like like did you did you pay taxes? Yeah. 100%
2:52:59
Well, I think you'll pay too much. Thank you.
2:53:04
Adam Curry: I'm not the only one noticing this insanity. Luckily.
2:53:09
Ah, well Happy Father's Day to you, John. That Happy Father's
2:53:14
Day to you. And Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out
2:53:16
there. You do important work you matter you're seeing your heard.
2:53:24
We have end of show mixes from see who did this one. I wish I
2:53:30
knew this the Armistice Day. We have DS laughs We have Tom Stark
2:53:38
where the first one up, unedited by the way his first mix. And
2:53:42
Jesse Coyne Nelson. And on no agenda stream we've got the hog
2:53:45
story to John Fletcher and Dame Carolyn Blaney. They'll be
2:53:49
playing with their barbecue toys. And coming to you from the
2:53:52
heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six
2:53:56
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
2:53:58
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where Tomorrow's
2:54:01
a holiday. I'm Jesse Dvorak. Yes, enjoy
2:54:04
Adam Curry: your Juneteenth everybody. And please do
2:54:08
remember us at divorce act.org/na We'll be back on
2:54:13
Thursday with another media deconstruction just for you.
2:54:16
Until then adios mofos a hui, Hui, and such
2:54:28
Unknown: and now, I'm standing next to the president again next
2:54:32
to a collapsed bridge here. And he is here to commit to work
2:54:36
with the governor and the delegation to make sure that we
2:54:42
get this fixed quick, fast as well to this is a president that
2:54:46
is committed to and fractured. And then on top of that, the
2:54:51
jewel, kind of a law of the infinite fresh and fresh
2:54:57
inflation Bill that is going to make sure that there's going to
2:55:01
be bridges all across like this all across America getting
2:55:04
rebuilt.
2:55:06
You're watching people fight. You're watching people lose and
2:55:12
Adam Curry: pharmacist was our armistice Am I saying it right I
2:55:16
miss not being able to say pharmacist or pharmacists. What
2:55:21
is it? What is it
2:55:23
John C Dvorak: you'll never say I get it now I had to set it I
2:55:26
visualized the word I was about to say and then you start
2:55:28
Adam Curry: pharmacist pharmacist armed I said I said
2:55:31
it right armatus There you go. Armitage. Armitage is yes it is
2:55:34
a RM a tea ice Armistice Day armistice armistice. Does it
2:55:39
sound right to you? Yes, it does. Now armistice that's where
2:55:42
they signed the armistice agreement armistice armistice
2:55:45
you're right armistice.
2:55:52
Unknown: You're watching people by the way, you're watching
2:55:56
people losing on Armistice Day
2:56:00
that are kind of company these medications can trigger
2:56:03
temporary hair shedding and hair loss. The hair follicles can
2:56:07
shrink and produce thinner and shorter strands and this can
2:56:10
lead to certain patterns of hair loss. male pattern hair loss
2:56:14
mechanic alopecia misuse can cause progressive hair loss that
2:56:18
could become permanent. You have to you have to treat the whole
2:56:22
person and that's what this headline is really about. All
2:56:24
Well
2:56:25
Adam Curry: done. Well done. You've debunked the stupid
2:56:28
headline Dr. Jenn keep on taking your ozempic People have nothing
2:56:31
to see here. It's all good and when
2:56:33
Unknown: your hair all falls on your balls milliard don't worry
2:56:36
about it. At least you're thin
2:56:38
and boxy Tucker Carlson the split CNN told on the mind video
2:56:44
that said pineapple pizza is fine by me point of personal
2:56:48
privilege and preference in the Kamala Harris as wishes high as
2:56:52
NATO pushes the Ukraine a key point number five top you clip
2:56:57
Stopstopstop in a clip love this show even when mommy and daddy
2:57:01
fight the lead assholes think about what you think about Roy
2:57:05
Wood was good at the correspondents White House.
2:57:08
Comics nowadays even into the culture war forced to play no
2:57:11
longer just for last media more intentional weight loss at a
2:57:15
loss for word obesity is out of control these epic phrases of
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Sir data control so many drugs to me, Eli Lilly and diabetes
2:57:23
drugs and now in grade 30% all the learners to Jabba shot
2:57:27
stress test the public and mass formation as well we got from
2:57:31
the outside. Feels like OSI politics is show business for
2:57:36
Ugly people. I mean, why not love the trolls? It never gets
2:57:40
old to 1800 on Thursday 24 On a Sunday stick around for the
2:57:45
donations don't run away
2:57:49
Adam Curry: in a troll room and they and there's not a lot of
2:57:52
them which is nice. Yes, I'm going to write it down on the
2:57:54
sticky
2:57:58
Unknown: it's lovely June 18 2032 and celebrity trans
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species influencer Shazam duck frog goat gets a surprise call
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it home.
2:58:10
O M G, its president Big Mike with powerful words of support.
2:58:15
What's going on? Tell me what's on your mind. Yeah, I am just so
2:58:23
proud of you being just an amazing role model and embracing
2:58:28
your truth. You're already doing this. So maybe this is for some
2:58:33
other young people that are listening. Your age or in the
2:58:40
teenage years in probably through your 20s you're going to
2:58:45
be experimenting with so many versions of yourself right.
2:58:52
Next, Vice President Alexandria Ocasio. Cortez speaks with the
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trans woodblock.
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