March 30th, 2023 • 2h 59m
Transcript
The transcripts of No Agenda are automatically generated and therefore, not fully accurate. Discretion is advised.
Click the text to start playing from that position in the show. Click the timestamp to copy a direct link to that position to your clipboard in order to propagate the formula.
John C Dvorak: electronic brain.
Adam curry,
Adam Curry: John C. Devorah.
Sunday March 30 2023. This is
your award winning chemo nation
media assassination episode
1542. This is no agenda, pausing
Oh, heart ai n broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here. And reason number
six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I just got
the good news that I'm eligible
for 0% interest on all my credit
cards. If I just press one. I'm
Jesse Dvorak skill.
Adam Curry: And then you took it
off the hook. Tell me that,
please. After you pressed one,
and you took advantage of that
great opportunity.
John C Dvorak: I had so many
calls this morning that I had no
problem taking it off the hook.
You
Adam Curry: know, in maybe a
CMC, it may be about four years,
one day that phone's going to
ring. And it's going to be me.
And I'm going to say, are you
interested in a reverse
mortgage? Guarantee? It's going
to be me. And you're going to
want to take advantage of that
excellent opportunity.
Unknown: Wow, did I lose you?
John C Dvorak: While we're gone?
Adam Curry: Oh, you're back. I
was like, Wow, you really didn't
like my joke. I guess. I have
you again. Are you with me?
Yeah. Okay.
John C Dvorak: real quiet today.
I guess you're in any noise?
Adam Curry: What do you mean? No
noise were over the line because
John C Dvorak: you think I'm not
here. Oh,
Adam Curry: you were just being
quiet? Yeah. Well, hi.
John C Dvorak: Well, what do you
think if we're going to stop the
AI? Are we gonna have
transgender war?
Adam Curry: I'd like to start it
off. Let's start off with the AI
just so we we can go kind of in
a in a fun direction first, and
make fun of us. I
John C Dvorak: have a four
series clip on the AI.
Adam Curry: Beautiful. Let me
let me play a 33 second
overview.
Unknown: More than 1300 tech
industry leaders, researchers
and others are now asking for a
pause on the development of
artificial intelligence to
consider the risks. Twitter and
Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Apple co
founder Steve Wozniak are among
those who signed a letter
calling for a break in the race
to develop more powerful AI.
Musk and others say advanced AI
which allows computers to
perform tasks that normally
require human intelligence could
pose quote, profound risks to
society and humanity.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. I
already am feeling that you and
I are on the same page with
this. This is the biggest
steaming pile of horse crap ever
is my feeling
John C Dvorak: well, there's a
Who Are they kidding aspect to
it? Oh, let's all stop for six
months.
Adam Curry: The first thing I
thought when I heard that was
Elon Musk wants everyone to stop
so he can catch up. That was the
first thought I had Hey, hey,
wha says stop. The smartest
people on the earth. John have
signed this letter including
Andrew Yang.
John C Dvorak: He's probably
behind it. Yeah, you're
Unknown: not kidding.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's go to
the AI freakout series for this
AI freakout intro there's the
intro,
Unknown: stop training,
artificial intelligence, at
least temporarily. That's what
over 1000 very notable
individuals want. They are AI
researchers, CEOs and tech
leaders like Elon Musk and Steve
Wozniak, they signed an open
letter it states that AI could
profoundly changed the history
of life on Earth. The letter
said we should plan for these
changes. But unfortunately,
we're not right now. Instead it
says Orien an all out of control
race to develop systems that no
one can understand, predict or
control.
Adam Curry: I just have to put
this into perspective. You know,
my feelings about Elon Musk?
Yeah, he he may be a great sales
guy. And he may be a great, you
know, like I was called the Kim
Kardashian of tech. Is he a
great tech leader? Is he such an
incredible visionary. I mean, he
is he bought an electric car
company and marketed that very
successfully got into rocketry
when NASA was out of it. So that
was very smart. You know,
there's, it's not like a huge
visionary thing unless you're in
the loop on where the money's
flowing and Wozniak with all
respect for the Apple Computer
Company. He also loved the
Segway. You know, it's like
this. These are not the smartest
people in technology as far as
I'm concerned. And you're and
you're bumping your mic, I'm
just gonna say it and I'll shut
up about it. Yeah, okay.
John C Dvorak: Well, there are
people on that list that are
smart, but who I don't know what
the point is. This is a
publicity stunt. But I don't
know what the point of it is. I
mean, Elon Musk was getting a
lot of publicity was there he
doesn't have anything for sales
that I know of. I mean, he's got
he's involved in some Some
little groups, but I don't know
that he's I don't know what to
point and then let's go to part
two.
Unknown: So they want everyone
to immediately pause training
for all systems more powerful
than GPT for for at least six
months. They want the pause to
be both public and verifiable,
not just that they even want
world governments to potentially
step in and implement a
moratorium. We talked to someone
who signed the letter AI
researcher Alexandra De Ridder,
also a frequent NTD contributor.
Director says a six month pause
is necessary. It doesn't stifle
AI research as a whole and it
gives the government time to
work closely with regulators. AI
is a very complex topic.
diverter says that the pause
would only work if every country
commits to it because of some
pauses and some don't. The
countries that don't will have
an unfair advantage. And so what
are the pros and cons for a six
month pause, we get some experts
to weigh in. The executive
director of Harvard in tech
Krisha Lenzo says AI is like a
train on the loose with no
guardrails. She supports the
letter
AI has tremendous capabilities
and a could cause a lot of
problems for people whether it's
cybersecurity issues, phishing,
scams or even disinformation, we
really need to get a hold of
what is going on when it comes
to open source AI, specifically
chat GPT, which is a huge
problem.
But what
John C Dvorak: what is she
talking about? We already have
phishing scams. We already have
all these other things that she
says AI has got something to do.
What is AI going to do to make
phishing scams any different
than they already are?
Adam Curry: All I keep hearing
is how dangerous is going to be
and all I see is stuff that's
wrong. I just for me, it's like
maybe they've come to the
collective realization that this
is not ready for primetime. It
doesn't really work all that
great. I mean, how many more
pictures do I need to see with
people with 18 fingers before
you know and I someone even made
one of me here's Adam curry in
the mid range. I mean, patina
look, I
John C Dvorak: had
Adam Curry: said this is not you
I see that right away.
John C Dvorak: I have a picture
I should have put put this in
the last newsletter I'm gonna
put in the next one. So it being
or one of these guys have got
these this art creation thing
that you can subscribe to. Yeah,
so I started asking for so
wouldn't do a lot of stuff. So I
decided to use you as the model.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm perfect for
that model. Oh, yeah.
John C Dvorak: And so I said I
want to see Adam curry kissing a
bear. Now. We can't have
anything like that. Okay. I want
to see what it
Adam Curry: wouldn't let you do
that. It said no, that's that's
that's verboten? You can't have
that. Yeah. Because it would
have been some big biker dude,
you know, big hairy biker, dude,
are you meant to a real bear?
John C Dvorak: Well, I just
said, bear, I didn't specify
what kind. So then I said, I
want to see Adam curry riding a
bear. So it gave me an image of
some guy that looked more like,
she looked a lot like Fabio,
nothing like you. It didn't look
like you at all. And I noticed
enough pictures on the web deck
that they could have cobbled
together a picture of you know,
now this was not a picture of
you, John Holt was a picture
some ridiculous looking
character who is just too good
looking, writing this stylized
bear. And I was I was gonna, I
was gonna run it into the I was
gonna I didn't do it because I
had other things to talk about
in the newsletter, but I was
gonna run it. And if you saw it,
you'd go. Yeah, good. I think
they nailed it. You would,
because it just like some
ridiculous picture. Again, but
it's a lie. It's like that's not
you. It's not, you know.
Adam Curry: So what I think is
happening here is that and I'm
gonna focus a little bit here
and I want you to continue with
these clips. I just want to say
we know that Disney just fired
7000 people. They fired the
entire Metaverse division. Why?
Because Metaverse was
yesterday's news. You don't hear
a single thing about metaverse.
$4 billion thrown away by
Zuckerberg and his, his, his you
know, this this dream he had,
which was never going to come to
fruition was a bad idea. He
couldn't it was just a pipe
dream of his. So everyone now
especially with Chad GPT
everyone's tripping over
themselves. Google barf, you
know, sucks. Everything's it all
sucks. It's not good. Yeah, I
know. You have to be a prompt
engineer. Okay, fine. I think
they all realize that they're
gonna go broke there's no
advertising model on this you
have to actually pay for it. It
costs a lot of money for this
currently. They're all gonna go
broke in this in they've created
an AI war amongst the tech
companies and they all said oh,
you know what? We should stop
this insanity, regroup so that
we can still have a business
model. That's what I think they
know it's no good
John C Dvorak: Okay, I think
betting just valid. That's why
they went to the baby, we
stopped for six months. It's
like a novice stop for six
cores, it doesn't make a
difference what they want to do.
Let's go to Eclipse three.
Unknown: On the other side of
the argument, a six month, six
month pause, could stall
progress. We talked to experts.
He's the chief AI architect,
architect at USC. He has a PhD
in machine learning and he's
Microsoft's and the VP and AI.
AI landscape is highly
competitive, and research and
organizations around the world
are creating more and more
advanced systems. And there is
an inevitability of progress,
right? Technological
advancements are inevitable,
they are attempting to halt
progress will only delay or
delay the issues at hand. You
want to empower the AI
researchers and organizations
who are already considered
deeply concerned about the
ethical implications and the
potential risk of these advanced
AI systems
Adam Curry: in Austin, which,
according to sources, is
supposed to be the center of all
things, AI, they're now trying
to hire AI engineers starting
salary 300 to $500,000. Out of
control, and I know a lot of
people, particularly our
audience are going you don't
know what you're talking about
curry. This is this is the
future you're not going to every
single AI thing that I've seen,
I It's live in my brain, which I
think I only use what 12% of I
got a lot of space left over.
And already my brain is seeing
the pic. Oh, the coat taupe
please. Please sorry,
John C Dvorak: you brought that
up right away because I wanted
you to go back to that last clip
and tell me what that guy said.
Adam Curry: I have no idea. But
he had the right accent to sound
authoritative. Sorry to be
racist.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I he that's
the I T accent. Yeah,
Adam Curry: as Indian. I'm
talking about exactly. That's
right.
John C Dvorak: Let's go to clip
for another
Unknown: thought the founder of
Eugene AI Sudeep Roy Chowdhry to
weigh in. His AI firm helps
manufacturers with their
operations. Chad Reese says the
six month pause is not fair. Not
that people should be free to
develop the technology without
government intervention.
What would we achieve?
Adam Curry: Whoa, hold on a
second. Government intervention.
I didn't hear anyone call for
the government to intervene. I
just heard a whole bunch of
John C Dvorak: Deadwood. The
first the first Scout spoke on
this series of clips brought it
up. Okay, I missed
Unknown: that I missed that
people should be free to develop
the technology without
government intervention.
What would we achieve by not
making progress in six months?
In this technology that I'm not
sure what we can achieve by
parallely working towards a
framework for governing AI based
technology. That part I agree
with and we should work on that
as a community.
And not surprisingly not a
single person from open AI has
signed the letter open AI as the
leading firm in generative AI
was mentioned explicitly in the
letter we reached out to open AI
Adam Curry: um, this look I'm
going on my on AI Adam
intelligence. This has SIOP
written all over this this is
bullcrap. This is this is some
scheme to benefit these guys,
probably just to save their ass
because this is an arms race of
epic proportions. And the only
one winning as far as I know is
Microsoft as you are probably a
lot of the same Serrana and
Nvidia. I'm going to be selling
a lot of video card GPU cards,
but I'm just not seeing the the
the actual application Okay.
Every every teacher who was
reached out boots on the ground
says like I can't see that this
was not written by my moronic
students. Please That's
insulting they all see it they
all know it.
John C Dvorak: Let's go to AI
freak out. This is the idiocy
showdown clip.
Unknown: And we tested chat GPT
versus Google bar. Now with a
bar ban bar possibility we had
the two bots get advice for
Tiktok influencers and TV Shawn
Marshall has more
than a small competition between
the two top chat bots today. But
we asked Chad GPT for and
Google's bird the same question,
who are tick tock influencer
deal with it if the US
government decides to move
forward with a ban on tick tock.
Tensions keep rising between
America and the Chinese
Communist Party. The possibility
of a tick tock ban to protect US
citizens data seems to draw
closer each day. I asked some
people on the street what they
would do if tick tock was
banned.
I use it a lot like way too
much. So I definitely cut down
my screen time which would be
good. I'd probably just go to
Instagram, honestly or like a
different app that comes up but
I probably just live my life
go you know have I'll be sad
because I do really love it
like, I'm not gonna lie. It's
kinda like entertaining.
With Instagram, they have this
thing called Instagram rails,
which is like, essentially like
tick tock. But the only
difference is like, usually when
I use like reels it's like not
on purpose. Like I just click on
one thing, and then I'm down
this loophole. So it's like it
traps you and for that,
to start out with Chad GPT, for
his answer was more extensive
and detailed. Bart's answer was
pretty basic, essentially said
to switch platforms start a
website or blog partner with
creators and collaborate with
brands, Bart gets points for
also suggesting to use social
media ads, which Chen GPT four
didn't recommend, which had GPT
four gave a few more answers. In
addition to Bard suggestions,
first, backup your content,
download and see your videos.
Later content after contact does
not focus on
John C Dvorak: backup, you got
to back this up a little bit.
And this is a two guy. These
things decided to try to copy
you know, they had the real
people say what they thought.
And then they had they asked a
question to the to two of these
systems. And the one system says
backup your content, start a
blog. I mean, the only left out
of this is learn to code. I
mean, it's just a bunch of
bullcrap bromides that didn't
show me nothing. Exactly what
you're saying.
Adam Curry: It's it's kind of
weird that we're both on the
same page with this one. Why?
Well, it's not that's not the
format of the show
John C Dvorak: was the format of
when we see something but this
dog, we're supposed to argue.
And besides that I have been
harping on this AI from cycle
for the last 15 years. I mean,
the cycle began in the 50s, I'll
reiterate for people out there,
the cycle began in the 50s, the
mid 50s, who ended there were
all these articles about the the
electronic brain, and they would
show all these computers and how
they're going to take over
everything and they're gonna
eliminate jobs and the
electronic brain. Now they went
on and on, it was kind of like
it wasn't AI quite, but then the
AI thing came around around,
what, 20 years,
Adam Curry: 25 years remember,
in the 70s, when you know when
the integrated circuit chips
chips is going to do it was
going to say I don't remember
the electronic brain part was
going to the same thing. Because
all
John C Dvorak: it took 25 years
out you'd like Tronic brain came
to the AI revolution. And this
was the artificial intelligence,
fourth generation, Japanese
thing they're going to take
over. And it was on and on and
on with expert systems. As we
know, it's first showed up
miniaturization and all these
things. It's always that so all
these things are going to and
then it just flopped. And then
another 25 Years go by we got
this again. And now we have this
stuff. And it's the same thing.
And as and this shows how weak
it is. You can finish the clip
and you it's just lame. Now
Unknown: Chad GPT, for his
answer was more extensive and
detailed. Bart's answer was
pretty basic, essentially said
to switch platforms start a
website or blog partner with
creators and collaborate with
brands. Bard gets points for
also suggesting to use social
media ads, which changed GPT
four didn't recommend which had
GPT four gave a few more
answers. In addition to Bard
suggestions. First, backup your
content, download and save your
videos familiar. Adapt your
content to different platforms
and focus on building a brand.
Strengthen your personal brand
by creating a unique style theme
or niche that sets you apart
from other content creators.
This simple test did seem to put
shed GPT for in the number one
spot.
Adam Curry: Wow, this is this is
great. This is almost like back
in the day in the early days of
the web. You know, we'd be
advising big companies. And
they'd say yes, we want a viral
video. No problem. We're gonna
put that on the list. We'll
create a viral video for you.
And I was like, use social media
ads. Oh, okay. What kind of test
is this? Even? I'm amazed how
many people don't understand
that the human brain will will
evolve much faster than this.
Everything chat GPT 456789 10
Does will go faster. It was I'm
sure Yeah. Okay. If I'm looking
John C Dvorak: at somebody,
somebody may stop you there. But
I want to point out a
interesting phenomenon by the
human brain about how movies
have adjusted our people have
adjusted to the jump cut. Oh,
yeah. Oh, which never existed 50
years ago. They didn't exist.
People would could not deal with
something like that. And then
they, they it wasn't even an
evolution. They just started to
show up and the next thing you
know we all went okay, I get it.
And then you can follow it. They
these things can't even they can
barely answer the question about
tick tock, which was what was
presented to me here without
saying stupid stuff like backup,
backup your hard disk, you know?
Okay, well, gee, thanks for the
good advice.
Adam Curry: What is the one
thing that is the DeVore AK test
for online systems? What is the
one thing that as long as I've
known you, for 15 years, the one
thing you always just wanted to
get out of the internet? The one
piece of advice,
John C Dvorak: actually, let me
says 9320 years.
Adam Curry: 30 years, we'll be
John C Dvorak: working for the
media for two years before we
started this podcast. That's
right. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yeah. 34
back to CNET days. You're right.
All right. What what is what is
the number one question, you
know, the question,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, I
wasn't, I was so upset by your
15 year thing that it's just
Adam Curry: what is the best?
What is the best weedwacker
that's all you really want.
John C Dvorak: The best. Okay,
yeah, I've been doing this for
at least 20 years minimum. I
have been asking, what's the
best weed whacker? And it's
impossible to get the answer.
Here's the possible here's the
Adam Curry: answer from Chad
GPT. Of course, disclaimer as an
AI language model, I don't have
personal preferences or
experiences with using weed
whackers. Right there, who
cares? Boom, however, they're
done. However, there are many
popular and highly rated weed
whackers available on the
market. And the best one for you
will depend on your specific
needs and preferences. Okay, so
we may need to query a little
bit further. Some factors to
consider when choosing a weed
whacker include the size and
type of your lawn or yard, the
type of weeds you need to tackle
the power source you prefer
electric battery or gas and the
features you want. It's
adjustable height or pivoting
heads.
John C Dvorak: But it's not
answering me.
Adam Curry: Of course, it's not
answering your question. Of
course not. Of course not. I was
surprised there is
John C Dvorak: a weedwacker.
Despite all these details of
this thing brought up that is
the best. It's like there's the
best doctor. Yeah, yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, here's, this
was very disappointing, because
I usually hold this guy in
pretty high regard. I did not
know he's a Fox News
contributor, Douglas Murray.
Douglas Murray, who is one of
the is Harold is one of the
intellectual giants of our time.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, it's
funny to me, because I don't
know who you're talking about
how
Adam Curry: you do. He's the
British guy. He loves America.
And he's written several books
about how we're losing our
freedom. You don't know Douglas
Murray?
John C Dvorak: No. I mean, I
mean, if I saw him visually, let
me look him up as fake and
recognize him. Yeah, I might
know him. I think
Adam Curry: you probably he's,
he wrote me see what was his
famous book. Nobody's
neoconservatism why we need it.
The madness, the madness of
crowds. The madness of crowds, I
think was the big one. Oh, the
strange death of Europe. We've
talked about him in that context
of strange death of Europe,
immigration identity Islam.
Okay, well, you don't remember.
But we have talked about we've
played clips of him looking at
him now. So he's a Fox News
contributor. And he, and he's
going to weigh in on this
extraordinary moment in our
history, extraordinary moment,
when we have to pause AI. Some
of the smartest people in the
world are calling for this. It's
an extraordinary letter, I have
to say,
Unknown: oh, like him already.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna force you
to listen to him.
Unknown: It's an extraordinary
letter, I have to say, pretty
much unprecedented. I mean,
these are people at the absolute
forefront of the technology
we're talking about, who are
expressing deep concern. I mean,
to call for a six month
moratorium, basically on further
advancements in the area
suggests that there's they're
deeply worried about this. I
mean, this this has been coming
on us for 25 years now. So that
much of a surprise, the ability
of effectively the computers to
go faster than we can go on the
treadmill. The treadmill of
technology is running fast.
Adam Curry: What kind of analogy
is that? The the treadmill of
technology,
Unknown: the computers to go
faster than we can go on the
treadmill?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know.
It's the problem. He's he's come
up with a metaphor kind of which
is indicating that you're going
nowhere.
Unknown: You're running fast,
but you're not going
John C Dvorak: fast that
computers running fast. And both
of you no way. No way. I like
Unknown: that actually have
effectively the computers to go
faster than we can go on the
treadmill. The treadmill of
technology is running faster
than we humans can run. We've
known this for a long time. But
the fact that there has now been
this, this stressing that, that
we're you know we can be in
trouble They don't know what
he's capable of. I mean, to call
for a six month sort of ban on
this, I think it's quite
extraordinary. We've known we've
known for about a quarter of a
century now that this is coming.
It actually comes from the 90s,
when Kasparov, the great chess
champion, was beat to New York
City exactly was was was beaten
by the computer. And he said,
Then he said, he said the movie
in his notes, he said, The worry
I have is that the computer
isn't calculating, it's
thinking, we are 25 years on
from from that now. pewters are
thinking
Adam Curry: that and so I'm
gonna just stop them there.
John C Dvorak: Hey, what is
this? This is bull crap
computers not thinking correct,
Adam Curry: the computer is
merely making a probability
calculation, which you know, the
closer it is to zero, there'll
be point six, point 4.3, which
is how the original and how
chess computers still work
today. And in fact, is the same
way that so called AI is used in
determining what tweets to get
rid of. It's based upon the
large language model. And it's
always consistently wrong. It's
consistently wrong. AI is not in
the field in the field in
applications used to protect the
children. It's, it's
consistently wrong. Now, and so
it is, as far as I understand,
it's still the exact same basic
idea of chess computers, that is
computation. chess players
compute the probability they you
know, that's what they're doing.
They're computing as far ahead
as they can. And that's, you
know, you've trained your brain
to do that. And, yes, a computer
is probably going to be better
at mathematics. That's not the
same as thinking. Douglas
Murray.
Unknown: And he said, Then he
said, he said, his notes he
said, The worry I have is that
the computer isn't calculating
its thinking. We are 25 years on
from from that now. And the
computers. Can you imagine? The
Internet has revolutionized our
lives in so many ways. It's like
the printing press in the Middle
Ages. We don't know what the
consequences are going to be.
And we are currently living
through an era where it's
printing press after printing
press is being discovered
underneath, right.
And those it's just so important
for everyone to know these are
the smartest people amongst us
who are demanding a global
pause. Not a arbitrary senator
from a state this is this is for
real. And look at some of these
people from Steve Wozniak, co
founder of Apple to Elon Musk.
Andrew Yang here and Jamie
Bezos.
Adam Curry: Yes. It's just
extraordinary. Some of the
smartest people amongst us,
Steve Wozniak and Andrew Yang,
some of the smartest so that's
just
John C Dvorak: never mentioned.
I haven't heard any. Andrew
Yang's mentioned he just meant
to keep saying Wozniak and must
was he just mentioned it. You
talked over it? Well, he Andrew
Yang. Yeah, he's just a
politician. One
Adam Curry: of the smartest and
he even look, this is the new
idol. The new false idol. This
is the new science. We've had
signs signs getting old. Follow
the signs. Now if you follow the
AI, this is elevating by the
actual promoters of crap. You
know, I can't spell. Wozniak, he
promoted the Segway. That was
gonna change. Cities will
change. We will never live in a
city the same way again.
Remember that? Tomi, remember
that?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, I
remember I wrote a long column
about it in Forbes magazine.
Because I had the access to the
patents before there was
actually released. And we me and
pulse Paul Sappho gave me real
information
Adam Curry: you had you had
access to the patents before it
was in Renault, it
John C Dvorak: was just a patent
came out Paul Sappho identified
it for some reason identify such
sought out me to say with
pictures of the various devices
saying look at this bull crap.
What do you make of it and I
then I obviously followed up
with it with a column and had a
follow up column after the thing
came out with all these people
saying stuff like what you just
said was you know it's going to
cities cities will have to be
redesigned to accommodate Yes.
To accommodate this thing is a
stand up scooter that balances
itself I don't see it as
anything more than that. And it
was dangerous
Adam Curry: for the CEO of the
company, drove off the cliff and
died.
John C Dvorak: Yes, I've in fact
that forgot about that sad
ending. That ending to the to
the Segway. Driving off a cliff
on the thing. There's a there's
a there's a mutual Liberty
Mutual whatever it is Liberty
Liberty commercial, where where
there were a guide drives the
segway into the into the pit and
shoots kind of a barrier and
goes into the drink.
Adam Curry: And it was not the
not the inventor as many people
thinking No
John C Dvorak: no the vendor was
given vendor was I can't
remember his name but didn't
vendor was interesting.
Adam Curry: We there so let's
just say currently there's no
evidence AI is thinking, but
this elevates it with all this
this outrage and Oh, panic,
panic, panic, panic yeah this,
this elevates it to to that kind
of level and now of course it
has our attention and and the
whole idea is to replace the old
and tired science, all the
science to have aI tell us about
I don't know climate change fake
meats, all these important it's
digital dementia, digital
dementia is what is being
introduced to the
John C Dvorak: populace. Now I
like it digital dementia. Yes, I
Adam Curry: wrote that down
myself, did you? I did. So
Stanford, Stanford had this bit,
you know, two weeks ago off the
owl pocket AI model. And it only
cost $600 Not 5 million out
pakka alpaca. And we were
releasing the code, open code
open source, go to GitHub, get
the alpaca AI model, and then
they had to take it down because
it was kind of dangerous. It
does something that they call an
AI land hallucinating. Yeah, of
course. I mean, to get stuff
wrong, very wrong. And yeah,
okay. You can probably say write
a script for me using rust,
which is really handy. And it
can. Yeah, and but that's not
thinking that's, that's going to
Stack Overflow and scraping the
site and putting stuff together.
And since it uses language,
which is, you know,
deterministic of what word would
come after this word, your code
is going to be pretty good for
that.
John C Dvorak: But I was
watching something on
television. And I was just in
mind. And I realized that
today's news broadcasts with the
news readers can all be
replaced. And that's the real
threat and that so the news
media has to sense at least in
some way, but deep down inside
that they are the ones that are
being threatened. Well, of
course, because they're no good
anyway, they're not doing any
news reporting.
Adam Curry: While they've
already. They've already been
replaced to a certain audio.
Certainly, I mean, we hear lots
of tech, you know, I will say AI
read news reports and videos
that are created with fake
voices. Okay. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I think and I
think that that's, you know,
because that first woman that
was in that series, Eclipse goes
on to this 300 million jobs are
going to be lost. And it was an
unknown and unknown thing. What
jobs are going to be lost by
this? Well, I think rewriting
press releases so you can read
them on, you know, KR O N TV.
Yeah, on the nightly news. Oh,
that's a job. Just one job that
could go get shoved a press
release into the machine. It
reads it reads jiggers it and
gives you some copies and some
decent news copy to read.
Adam Curry: Well just go and
look at CNBC the website, how
many times you know, like, they
have some rudimentary form,
maybe even advanced, I don't
know if AI writing their
headlines I'm selecting. So the
Dow was up you got a picture
traders happy and you see these
guys. Yay, you know, like buy
beautiful. And then when the Dow
was down, they got loose Froning
food faces route. That's all AI
driven. So yeah, I'm sure that's
gonna work. But there's nothing
to be worried about. Humans are
always going to outsmart this
technology and go outside and go
without your phone and sniff
some air instead of sniffing
farts from the mainstream media
is just so stupid. And but it is
an idolization of technology.
And that is definitely a mission
of the singularity folk. Which
I'm sure Musk is a part of. And
I was like, Whoa, you know, I'm
gonna integrate
John C Dvorak: cancer say this
true.
Adam Curry: What that the
singularity
John C Dvorak: folk. I'm not
sure Musk is part of that club.
Is it pretty?
Adam Curry: Rolling? Have you
seen neuro link?
John C Dvorak: Where they you
know, some of this stuff he does
is just cool with people that
want to take it seriously. They
just, he's a joker.
Adam Curry: Yes, he is a joker.
He is a joker. And and if I just
might add when it comes to
politicians and this stuff. I
mean, most people are stupid.
I'm stupid. You're pretty
stupid. We're all stupid. But
the people who we elect and the
people who appoint people, the
elected people who appoint
people they appoint very stupid
people. We heard this with with
Fifi Lagarde, she's done. She
did not brilliant, and he's
smarter than anybody else. And I
just like to transition to tick
tock for a second so we can
discuss this before we get to
the horrible shooting in
Nashville, which we will
discuss. So we have the
everyone's all Patriot Act 2.0
Oh, yeah, tick tock, we gotta
get rid of tick tock. Ah, let's
listen to the stupidest person
we have currently in the Senate,
Lindsey Graham. So Lindsey
Graham is so stupid. When it
comes to this bill, we're
talking about Senate Bill 686,
which is a Senate bill doesn't
mean that this passes is law
that has to be a house version,
there has to be consolidation
have to agree on it. And then of
course, whatever it is, you
know, braindead Biden will will
sign it, no problem. But it's
not that simple. There's a
couple other things out. It's
also that's also, this is almost
a red herring as far as I'm
concerned. But Graham thinks
he's going on the safe Fox News
to discuss this, this restrict
act. And firstly, it goes on
with Jesse waters. Another
person I think is pretty stupid.
Sorry, nice guy. Nice guy. But
it runs on outrage and yelling,
and I'm waters, this is my
world, okay. And he gets trapped
right away. Why? Because, like
most politicians, he only
listened to his advisor, and the
advisor was probably a lobbyist.
Maybe it's just some intern. He
didn't read any of this. It's
also not a simple bill to read.
There's a lot of legalese in
there and referrals to other
things. But he was all in on it.
And but he didn't know it.
Unknown: Let's try to get some
answers out of the Senator
Lindsey Graham, who supports
this, and is here now you got to
be kidding me. Senator, did you
read this?
Yeah, I don't think I support
the Restrict bag.
You don't support this because
you are named as one of the
supporters cuz this is garbage.
Is this the one with John,
there's two bills out there. One
allows a review of businesses
that that are connected to China
give the Secretary the ability
to protect our data. Is that the
Restrict act?
We got Yes, s EDS. 86. Right
here, march 7. And we got a
bunch of Republicans supporting
it. Because this thing is crazy
town. You don't want the
government looking into your
private phone? No, I don't have
a hunch you're colluding with
the Russians. We remember how
that turned out.
Yeah, no. Well, the Constitution
Trump's a statute. So let me
come back and, you know, give
you a better explanation. Here's
the problem as I see it. China
is the parent company of Tiktok.
And my niece is light Tiktok. I
don't mind the Muse and tick
tock, I just don't want the
Chinese government to seize all
their data and manipulate the
information America sees for
political purposes. China's
helping drug cartels in Mexico.
China is not a friend to Chinese
espionage is an all time high
against American business
interests. So I want to push
back against China, but within a
constitutional framework, you're
right about that. So you made
these allegations? And I'll come
answer better next time.
I will. I mean, because on
Congress. Gov, you're listed as
one of the co sponsors of this
thing. Maybe it's like Fetterman
when your chief of staff saw
your work for you? And even
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, could be
could be. Yeah, because my staff
did that. I mean, honestly, AI
would out with that guy. But so
they're stupid. And none of them
actually have read the bill.
They don't really know what's in
it. I think it's a red herring,
because what's really going on,
he has all the executive orders.
And the Biden administration
National Cybersecurity strategy,
which no one is talking about.
This is this is the real crap
that's going on. And I think
this is just a distraction, this
will never pass. It's so
obvious, although it's only
limited to certain countries
they can add to it. And this is,
if this passes, then we're all
stupid. We all should go shoot
ourselves because this is dumb.
This is the dumbest thing we
could ever do. Everyone's onto
it. But we're not looking what's
really being put out there with
executive orders, etc. From the
National Cybersecurity strategy,
we must rebalance the
responsibility to defend
cyberspace by shifting the
burden to cybersecurity away
from individuals, small
businesses and local governments
and onto the organizations that
are most capable and best
positioned to reduce risks for
all of us. The National
Cybersecurity strategy aligns
with supports and works in
concert with a total US
surveillance system where
definitions of information are
then apply to cybersecurity and
communication vectors. This
policy is a surveillance system
and he's got executive orders up
the wazoo that are already being
put into place. This is CES.
This is all this stuff. We're
all arguing about the wrong
thing here. And the net is just
being tightened over and over
again. So none of these senators
know what they're talking about.
They don't understand what's
going on, and it's still
protection for the existing
view. Wes technology companies?
Oh, yeah. Let's make sure we
have something to ban everybody
to ban everybody else. Because,
you know, we don't like what
tick tock did, and Rubio gave it
away. He did his own special
little little press conference
17 minutes, two days ago, put it
out on YouTube couldn't put it
on Tiktok Oh, because you know,
they might edit it and make it
look weird. And I pulled two
clips, and it shows you exactly
how dumb and how misguided this
guy is, and how compromised he
is. This is this is how his his
understanding of the American
people how stupid we are.
Unknown: So let me walk you
through a very realistic
hypothetical.
Adam Curry: Let's suppose a very
realistic hypothetical.
Unknown: So let me walk you
through a very realistic
hypothetical. Let's suppose for
a moment that China decides
they're going to invade Taiwan,
and 2027 20/28. And the key to a
successful invasion or taking of
Taiwan is to prevent the United
States of America from getting
involved.
Adam Curry: First of all, he's
just presuming that anyone gives
a crap. All I mean, do we really
care? Do we do the Americans
really care what China does with
Taiwan? Are we being told to
care? I'm asking you, John, what
do you mean, do you care?
John C Dvorak: We're being told
to care. Okay. I mean, I kind of
care I haven't been to both
places and I like Taiwan the way
it is, but do I really care if
Taiwan is overrun by the
Chinese? Are they are they grab
it back? How about the Taiwanese
grabbing back? China? Yeah. I
mean, that's gonna happen. In
fact, in fact, when when I was
in jammin Sherman China, on the
coast, which is across from the
Thai is on the same streets,
across from the, from Taiwan, on
the mainland, and there's a
bunch of these bunkers that are
all over the place. They're
still there. They're from like
World War Two. And the guy
taking me around the area was I
said, What the hell are these?
He says, Oh, this was the
Chinese Communist Party after
they they rousted the Republic
of China people and got him to
move to Taiwan had to set up
shop here, because they thought
they were going to reinvade.
Adam Curry: And so that could
still happen, right? But the
story is, well, you know,
there's so many chips, and it's
all coming onto computers. Do
you? Does anyone really think
that China won't want to sell us
computers? Even if they overrun
Taiwan, what's their market? We
are their market, we are their
market, and we put the chips act
in place. So we can probably try
and make our own. Not very cost
effective,
John C Dvorak: but have been
shown already to be a flop.
Adam Curry: Okay, so let's go
back to the genius Marco Rubio,
who I am convinced is completely
compromised in this by
lobbyists. And the
Unknown: key to keeping the
United States from getting
involved is to convince the
American people, okay, that we
shouldn't get involved because
they know we're a democracy.
They know that public opinion
matters in America.
Adam Curry: Oh, you just like
Ukraine. Like it really matters.
Now. We really care not where do
we stop caring.
Unknown: And so knowing all
this, the Chinese government
goes to bite dance who by law
has to do whatever they're told.
And the Chinese government says
to bytedance, we want you to
align your algorithm to shape
American public opinion on
Taiwan. They won't do this
overnight. It'll be the lead.
Don't spend a couple of years
laying this out. We
Adam Curry: don't need a bite
dance tic tock algorithm. All we
need is Deborah Birx to show
videos, and everyone will
believe it. Well, look at these
people that China they're
falling down from COVID, they're
dying. You didn't need any
algos. For that you just needed
the officials to talk about it.
Unknown: We want you to align
your algorithm to make sure that
people in America are seeing
messages that convinced them
that America should not get
involved. And not only that, we
want you to use the data to
target specific American
audiences with specific
messages. So for example, some
Americans might see a bunch of
videos that are alleged to show
people in Taiwan probably fake
but nonetheless, people in
Taiwan supporting a Chinese
takeover.
Adam Curry: Like China take me
over. Oh, that seems pretty
religious. The
John C Dvorak: funny thing about
this, we always had to remember
people watched the videos that
they find entertaining. Yes. I'm
seeing a bunch of stuff about
Taiwan gone, we're gone. I'm
just clicking off and going
someplace else. I'm not gonna
watch that. It's not
entertaining. Bring back who's
ever looked at tick tock, I've
looked at tick tock. I also look
at the real thing, that thing
that Instagram does, which can
be quite good. And I'll sit
there and watch it for a while
because it's like watching
television, but short gags and
bits and dogs. And it's really
crazy stuff and a guy shooting a
basketball from across the
street and all that kind of
thing. Yeah, it's not a it's not
a bunch of political After
trying to convince me one thing
or another, if I see that I, oh,
finally I can stop.
Unknown: Maybe family members.
Remember, they have all this
data on us, family members of
military members. Oh, see videos
about how 1000s of Americans
will die. If the United States
gets involved. Others might see
videos of Americans
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a
second. You know, if I see
videos about how maybe 1000s of
Americans will die, which could
be very true service members, if
we start meddling around, if you
do an entertaining way, and a
cat is telling me, I might say,
hey, let's not do that. But come
on Rubio
Unknown: would see videos about
how 1000s of Americans will die.
If the United States gets
involved. Others might see
videos of Americans what they
think are Americans arguing, why
do we care about Taiwan? We
should be focused on our
problems here at home.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is what
we're saying about Ukraine right
now. And you're suppressing
those messages. Yes, you are
suppressing those messages. You
are ignoring the American people
when it comes to that we're all
saying that, hey, you know, we
got problems here. We got
homelessness, we got shitty
education, we want to
concentrate at home. All the
money you send to Ukraine could
be we could have every homeless
person could have a tiny home,
any anything but what you're
doing now, but here it comes.
Here's the part where he admits
that tick tock is just kicking
American, big Tex ass. And he's
going and he's going to admit
this. And he's going to use this
as a reason to ban tick tock,
only in a typical Rubio
politician way.
Unknown: And when we notice that
they're doing something about
it, that's what people say,
Well, if that happens, then you
deal with it. Well, once we
notice that they're actually
doing and we try to do something
about it. You know, what comes
next? Here's what comes next.
already happening now. You're
gonna have a bunch of small
businesses in America who depend
on marketing and Tik Tok. And I
don't let me tell you something,
I don't I don't diminish that.
It's true. I know people that
have built up their businesses,
and they use tick tock for
marketing, and it works. It's
better than the other apps to
that.
Adam Curry: It's better than the
other apps for marketing for
small businesses. Oh, man,
John C Dvorak: I was at one of
the sales guys at tick tock
clipping that
Unknown: let me tell you
something, I don't I don't
diminish that it's true. I know
people that have built up their
businesses, and they use tick
tock for marketing. And it
works. It's better than the
other apps that
Adam Curry: he doesn't say it's
something he says it's better
than the other apps that you
know, the guys that are paying
me,
Unknown: but just imagine, when
we go to them and say guys, we
got to shut tick tock down now
because now it's real, now
they're using it against us. So
people are going to come out to
you're going to destroy my
business. Fact, China will
probably threaten those people.
China will probably make it very
clear, the US gets involved.
We're gonna knock all the
Americans off the TIC tock, down
goes your business, those people
will suddenly be asking, Oh,
isn't this great?
John C Dvorak: Well, first of
all, let's stop a bit right
there. Does this guy have any
clue about how businesses work?
Is he ever run a business? Well,
here he ran, advertise and get
get you get? Okay, you're
advertising, you're finding that
you're getting effective
advertising. His work
effectively is working
effectively in a specific
magazine. And then magazine
folds. That doesn't mean the
business folds? Yes, it means
that you need to find something
else you're you're taking, you
may or may not even take a hit.
It doesn't you know, if you're
advertising effectively, your
business will continue even if
the advertising stops dead. You
have a business it's not like
it's like, you know, unless it
was all direct marketing from
that one source. Which is not
the case, very few direct
marketing operations I've seen
on Tik Tok, if any, but what
Adam Curry: I'm hearing him say
is exactly the talking points
he's been given, Hey, man, we're
in trouble. Because people are
becoming successful with tick
tock marketing, their marketing
to as we discussed on a previous
episode of marketing, to people
who are in a group and there's
no strife and Aberdeen, they
like advertising there, and they
can target their message because
only one type of people, it
doesn't matter what type any
type you can get that type of
person. You know, it's very
successful. And yeah, in fact, I
have 70 This is from what is
this retail retail dive.com And
they published this article they
say here 75% of marketers expect
to spend more on tick tock even
as ban looms 75%
John C Dvorak: and drawing
attention to all this like Rubio
is doing in the band effect the
band looming is brought
attention to advertisers. Yeah,
hey, this is good stuff over
here. It's good. It works. It
works. All they're doing is
making Tik Tok more success. for
what it is, yeah,
Adam Curry: that's what I said.
Unknown: China will probably
threaten those people. China
will probably make it very
Adam Curry: threatened. Hey,
we're gonna kick you off a tic
tac No, they're not gonna do
that
John C Dvorak: if China wants to
cause some problems together.
One of the one of our producers
sent me a note talking about
classic cars. He says you can't
buy parts for any classic cars,
right nowadays, American cars,
American American American,
American classic cars, you want
a part a screw for your car?
That's a little different
because it goes someplace here
or there. No, it comes from
China if you can get it at all
and even the Chinese parts
aren't as good as they should
be. But they're just all China
you have no, uh, you know,
there's no option. There's no
real printed version. They don't
have models that you can put in
a into the 3d printers or
anything like that. What
happened to Moammar they just
kind of cut off. They can just,
I heard some guy the other day,
say, you know, we should do
whenever the in fact is one of
the clips we had like a week
ago. Guys, you know, one of the
we just we just stop all the
imports from China. Yes, that'll
do it. Wow. How dumb are you
talking about naive? Yeah. Let's
finish up to our next with
China. We can't we have to find
some other way of dealing with
this. We can't,
Adam Curry: we can't do. And
maybe they could, for some
reason. I mean, I'm sure the
national security system is also
interested in gaining control
over China's so Rubio is saying
two things. One, we don't
control the messaging, like we
control with all the American
companies, for whatever reason,
because you know, we put FBI in
there, we have the IRS
threatened people, you know that
that's, so we don't have that
angle, although I think they
probably could, because after
all it is, you know, it's not a
Chinese company that runs us.
And we got a problem. They they
look 75% everyone's moving to
tick tock, we have email after
email to talk works. We like it,
this is good. And so what he's
saying here is they need to have
some boogeyman China, to stop
this, to blame it on because
people are going to lose their
minds. And I also don't think
it's ever going to happen. I'm
going to put that in the book,
there's going to be no tick tock
ban. Not agree not going to
happen. Now let's finish this
out. So people are going to come
Unknown: on to you're gonna
destroy my business. Fact, China
will probably threaten those
people, China will probably make
it very clear, the US gets
involved, we're going to knock
all the Americans off the TIC
tock, down goes your business,
those people will suddenly be
asking their elected officials
here not to get involved in
Taiwan. And you know, where we
find ourselves then paralyzed,
paralyzed a country that's
paralyzed, that cannot act in
its own national security
interests, because we've allowed
an adversary to basically use an
app that they control and the
data that they control to shape
public opinion in America over
an extended period of time, and
we can't do anything about it.
Adam Curry: whatsoever. This is
also a lie.
John C Dvorak: So so his whole
thing is if if we banned tick
tock this is what he's sensually
say. Bye. Bye. People should
check out my Essayons Yes,
Adam Curry: I put I put a link
in the show notes to your free
and open Internet hypocrites by
Jhansi Dvorak link in the show
notes
John C Dvorak: the what he's
saying is that if we ban tick
tock which is again in a free
and open internet, if we ban
Tiktok like you know we were
wrong or something then the
whole Chinese Chinese Taiwan
things over is that what is kind
of implying Yeah, then we're to
worry about China and Taiwan. If
it goes is that is that the
point? Yeah, that's the hope
Adam Curry: this is to scare
you. scare you a couple other
things before we move on. First
of all, Zuckerberg did actually
have the opportunity to buy this
when it was called Music Lee
musically musical dot L y
musically. And the price wasn't
right, and that they negotiated
for 14 months and bytedance
outbid Zuckerberg. $800 million.
And then, of course, it became
Tik Tok. merged into the TIC
tock engine. And there and there
it is. And people like now I
need to say a couple of things
because I got a lot of love from
people. Yeah, you're right, tic
TOCs fantastic. You know, it's a
love algo. Ultimately,
centralized media is a bad idea.
Regardless, it's a bad idea. It
can it's just a bad idea. I
would say for sure. Invest some
time and understanding Mastodon
that has its problems too. But
You know, we have a vibrant
community of people and there's
no algos? That's the thing,
there's no, as long as there's
no algo. And I have some godlike
powers there. And, you know, I
haven't, I've kicked one or two
people off, because they really
just angered me that they
weren't participating in the
community just just to have an
account somewhere. But
otherwise, you just leave it
alone. And sometimes, because we
don't have an algo it's
annoying, which is good. Now, if
people tagged me on their
arguments, or by I'm mute
conversation, I'm out, I'm not
interested in that. And it's
kind of good because I don't
want to be on Mastodon all day,
podcasting, perfect example of
19 years of no messing with the
infrastructure. And we and we've
solidified that with podcast
index, RSS, which Google killed
tried to kill off by killing the
Google Reader couldn't do it.
It's still being used. And
today, there's even noster I
heard about this noster and
RSTR.
John C Dvorak: We're gonna hear
about it now, though. I'm, I'm
guessing. But let me ask you a
question. First. What do you
think the motive was for Google
to kill off Google Reader? It
wasn't that it was unsuccessful
and costing them a lot of money
could make
Adam Curry: money off of it.
They couldn't make money off of
it. It wasn't centralized. They
could they couldn't get
John C Dvorak: out of it. Is it
good? As a nice loss leader?
Adam Curry: No. Are you nuts?
No, that's what Gmail is. Gmail
was their loss leader. But they
made sure they could read
everything. And now it's very
profitable for them. Because
they, you know, they say right
there. We're looking, we're
reading your email, so that we
can see if there's anything that
we can handle for you better
ads, yeah. For not for anything
else, really, just for better
ads. Sure. But that's a maybe
sometimes some of this
information data goes to the
CIA, NSA. When they ask, well,
they're busy. They don't ask we
don't do it. They're big.
They're big. They claim they
don't do. I would say the big
thing that Google did was maps,
they they bought keyhole, which
they definitely got from the
CIA. Will maps is the best. By
the way. I wanted to bring it
one more thing about Rubio
quickly, he brought up that
Forbes Forbes reporter who Tik
Tok was spying on which is not
true. That tick tock got
location data from a reporter to
send to match it up to see if
any, because there was a leak,
there was a leak of 80 hours of
conversation of tic toc talking
about what their strategy was
and what they were going to do
in America. And and and the
Forbes reporter started
reporting on it. And I think
you'll probably you can probably
corroborate this. Tech companies
in America have done this ad
nauseam to reporters, let's see
where this reporter was, was
anyone from our company?
John C Dvorak: P is a scam did
it in a scandalous way that
ended up with it. I think it was
the chairman of the board and
getting kicked off getting fired
this woman who was just as
horrible owner as woman, she's
started spying on about five or
six or seven major national
reporters.
Adam Curry: But spy it's one
thing first of all, the woman
has the app. So her her IP and
location data is known. And it's
like it's okay for advertising.
But oh, now they're gonna find
out where I am. And then to see
if any of their employees are
there. And that's really bad.
How stupid are you Reporter But
the funny thing is, Forbes
magazine is owned by a Chinese
company.
John C Dvorak: It is funny.
Adam Curry: So you know, and
even the report is like and you
know, that happens. That happens
to happens.
John C Dvorak: But I had written
years ago in the 80s. I'd
written something for info world
about 18 T had these plans for
some chip or some damn thing.
Some guy was feeding me this
information from a TNT and I
said, Well, you know, you're
being he wasn't careful at all.
And they Dave at&t Got a little
irked by this, these leaks, and
they don't know what they did.
But they started looking for
people within the company that
were sent talking to me. And
they found a guy and fired him.
Adam Curry: Did you feel spied
on did you feel violated? Or did
you feel kind of cool? Like wow,
I'm that important. They spied
on?
John C Dvorak: Well, I know that
some reporters who have been
spied on they have had there's
some way of suing. And you can
make a lot of money, really. So
I was always looking forward to
it. But it never happened. Back
to
Adam Curry: Nasir nos ter no
notes and other stuff through
relays. And this is no one owns
this. No one can own it. People
can only own apps, I guess, if
you want to sell an app, but
there's so many open source
apps. And you can do all kinds
of stuff with this. Jack Dorsey
is he's been seeding the
community by helping developers
out to bootstrap this. It's it's
wonky still but I can see what's
happening. One thing that that
this is a it's really, it's
decentralized and so
decentralized, that it's just
you, you and then you can tap
into any number of relays, which
is in a way like a mastodon
server. But you can have one
yourself you know it's easy to
pretty easy to set up on a
Raspberry Pi or your buddy can
set it up but you don't need it
you can use what do I what do I
want it for? Oh, right now the
first usage is social media
network with follow you know,
the whole thing it's, it's all
in there is
John C Dvorak: it different? Why
would I want to anesthetic the
mastodon I'm using
Adam Curry: I think it's
community based that seems to be
mastered on it's called
cultural, the cultural the
attitude of Mastodon is retarded
from its onset. In my mind, you
know, a bunch of nut jobs who
hate everybody and ban and block
and nostra doesn't really have
that capability. You determine
if you ban or block you can't
really block instances, the way
Mastodon does it. And there's
one other thing that is what
John C Dvorak: if I want to
block instance, so you you
personally can block it.
Adam Curry: But it's not like
someone else can block you from
seeing someone else on your
Okay, on your app. It's a
critical difference. They have
some other answer just one way
you can you can use nostril and
INRIA. Again, it's night notes
and other stuff. You could do
anything you want. You could
have blogs run on it. It's it's
not don't go and try it right
now. John is not ready for
primetime. You'll hate
John C Dvorak: it. But I can
seeing any reason I want to try
it. No, you don't. Yeah, no,
Adam Curry: no, you don't. But
I've I've been pretty good
sometimes identifying stuff. And
I think that this has legs. This
has legs and they have a
financial model built in, in
some way similar to podcasting
2.0, where you can zap people
instead of a like, you can send
them some Satoshis give it give
it a year or two. There's
something going on here and it's
maturing quite quickly. But
anyway, the point is, we have to
do this, you know, like
homeschooling, get your kid out
of school, I don't care where I
don't care if they're where
they're at school, get your kid
out of school. It's toxic, it's
horrible. And be and I just
learned yesterday 15,000
Americans a day die from
misdiagnosis by doctors and
accidents in hospitals if things
go wrong. You don't really hear
about that. It's probably the
one of the biggest killers is
medical doctors. Not all of
course are bad. But you know, we
have a lot of doctors who are
told to diagnose and prescribe
and people die. And then you
don't get reporting on it. You
know, have your voodoo now we
have the now we have the mammoth
balls. You hear about this crap?
Yeah, yeah, and actually have
the woolly mammoth ball
Unknown: next the manda
meatball, but it's not for
spaghetti. Very gross. It's
the work of an Australian
company. They mixed a small
amount of woolly mammoth DNA
found in the Arctic with lamb
meat. Researchers say they're
making a point about the
alternatives. They
Adam Curry: claim it's a big
innovation in food production.
Not an April Fool's joke. Yeah.
Food production. So everyone's
all Oh, yeah. Oh, great. Yes. So
it's a mammoth. Amount of the
sell meat. Yeah, good. Sell
cultured meat. The revolution
will be decentralized. Don't
miss out and miss out on it.
That's kind of my point. We
have. This is not going to stop.
None of this ends. Well. Oh,
Elon Musk is this was so funny.
You probably heard about this
Unknown: security breach at
Twitter, parts of the company's
closely guarded source code were
actually leaked online. That is
the fundamental computer code on
which the platform runs. It
includes security
vulnerabilities. Twitter has
filed a lawsuit to try and
determine who was behind the
breach
Adam Curry: and no one cares. No
one's building a new Twitter,
out of Twitter source code,
Mastodon and noster. And
podcast, all that source code is
open. Go build yourself.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
think that was the point. The
point was that somebody could
create some malware. And another
reason
Adam Curry: not to be on Twitter
into Are you really, I mean, do
you really use Twitter anymore?
I certainly don't.
John C Dvorak: You use it more
than I do.
Adam Curry: As an inbox still.
John C Dvorak: Now I see you
post a lot at replies. I
replied. No, you will. I don't
know Bell. Well, well analyze
the post but you post a lot. I
tend to only post the show the
new shows. You're even
Adam Curry: smarter than I am.
That's my point. Your event
you're ahead of the curve. Got a
couple notes here about the
government ban tick tock ban. A,
a government individual
contacted me I shall remain
nameless. You and John have been
discussing the whole tick tock
situation over the last few
weeks. I'd like to provide some
clarification. Please keep this
anonymous Of course, when the
media reports that apps such as
tick tock are now banned from
government issued phones and
digital devices, it's a complete
bull crap. Any government issued
phone can only be used for work
related tasks all activity is
tracked. And on most of them the
ability to even download use or
install apps is disabled. Just
another statement to make it
seem like a proactive step is
being taken what actually has
never been allowed in the first
place?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, makes
sense.
Adam Curry: In that and so it's
all it's all a scam.
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, there's
one little funny thing that's
happening I think is cool. And
this could be have some effect.
And this is the Arkansas lawsuit
against both meta and Tic Toc,
Unknown: Arkansas is suing meta
and tic toc. The state claims
the social media giants are
making their platforms
manipulative and addictive to
children on purpose. Lawsuits
allege that both companies
violated the state's deceptive
trade practices act. Arkansas
says meadow trades their
products using complex
algorithms designed to quote
exploit human psychology and
foster addiction to maximize
user screen time. The lawsuit
against tick tock alleges that
the app routinely exposes the
data of Arkansas consumers to
access and exploitation by the
Chinese Communist Party. This is
Adam Curry: this is this is very
analogous to what's happening in
Alabama. So that was Arkansas in
Alabama three school districts
are suing meta YouTube Tik Tok
and Snapchat over student and
mental health.
John C Dvorak: Nice.
Adam Curry: alleging the social
media companies have created a
youth mental crisis. And the
platforms are unreasonably
dangerous and addictive. This
youth mental health crisis is
affecting all aspects of
education students are
experiencing record rates of
anxiety, depression, and other
mental health issues because of
the defendants intentional
conduct. These students perform
worse in school are less likely
to attend school more likely to
engage in substance abuse and to
act out all of which directly
affects plaintiffs ability to
fulfill their educational
mission. This I think is very
analogous to the tobacco laws.
And this is what I think the
states are going for. Hey, these
Silicon Valley guys they are
cleaning up let's get us some of
that money. Just like the master
states agreement. Go for it I
think that it's probably a good
idea
John C Dvorak: and I think it's
a great idea and I think they
should do exactly that and if
you're going to take it to the
way that the tobacco money share
went I think go for it. I think
he should do it if these guys
are making way too much money
Adam Curry: and we're going to
talk about some of that mental
health crisis after I say in the
morning to you the man who put
the C in the what did I have I
had something I can't remember
what it was chief AI officer
that's what it was ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end, Mr. John
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well in the
morning to you Mr. Adam
curiosity in the morning worship
she boots to the ground Feeny
are substantive on the dames
tonight.
Adam Curry: And for those of you
who are in the troll room
thinking oh, I as a donation
segment. I'm going to leave no
you miss some good content last
time and we have now been
integrating even more content
into these donation segments we
have to today because people
stepped up let's see how the
trolls are doing. Going on. Oh
2068 for Thursday,
John C Dvorak: we're up. We're
up back to our old days. The
olden days during the COVID
Adam Curry: That's right during
the cut and well you know what?
It's because this is as
dangerous as COVID only for real
John C Dvorak: Oh more
dangerous. Much more dangerous.
Adam Curry: The trolls are in
the troll room control room.io
You can listen to this show live
on Thursdays and Sundays as we
bring it to you live on edited
it as the podcast also goes out.
I live and unedited and they
can't take us down. This will
never go away. It's not like
you're watching what you think
is a podcast on YouTube. We're
not sitting there with that cans
on and microphones. No, we're an
audio podcast. You can drive
while you're listening to us.
You can do other things. You can
do yard work. You can be sitting
on the lawn mower. You can be
using your weed whacker, you can
be doing the dishes, you can do
all kinds of stuff. You can
multitask, it's a great
invention. Use a modern podcast
app available at podcast
apps.com. To get all kinds of
benefits. We have transcripts so
you can read along many people
in foreign countries like
listening to us and reading
along and they find that very
handy. We've got chapters and
also you can get a bat signal
alerted when the show goes live.
Any show goes live that's using
the new protocols and it's
backwards compatible. You can
use all of If you could import
all of your existing podcast
don't be afraid move towards
something that is not controlled
by a large company support some
smaller guys who are doing some
and gals who are doing some good
work. Now said you can follow us
on no agenda, social dot
comments or Mastodon server,
it's much better than being
anywhere else. Give that a shot,
follow Adam and no agenda.
social.com Jhansi, Dvorak had no
agenda social.com. And we as
part of our value for value
model, we have many artists,
professionals who like to create
art that we'll use, and we're
one of the few podcasts who who
do it one of the few who
actually can because we accept
time, talent and treasure in
return for the value that we
provide with our shows. And
these artists make artwork that
we then put on the podcast and
people love it. And I would say
that the capitalist agenda piece
that we chose for episode 1541
was one of the I mean, people
responded to this. This was the
tick tock, kind of cheese keiki
lady with the big red lips and
the Tick Tock heart glasses and
has had the love algo there.
People responded well to this.
Yeah, they really did. And we
liked it. And we looked at, by
the way, I wanted to say
something about capitalist
agenda. I think that he is also
available on Fiverr Fiverr. You
know, you can hire him to do
stuff. More artists should do
save bucks more artists to do
this. We'll be happy to promote
it. fiverr.com/cap again,
agenda. He used to be in the
financial industry. I'm not sure
what happened, what it meant. I
have to have my
John C Dvorak: drawing. I know
what happened. He was one of
those like a kid in school that
won't listen to the history
class, because he's drawing the
teachers, caricature of the
teacher. And the next thing you
know, the principle goes into
principle. Here's a story that
actually is true. This has
happened to more than a few guys
to principle gets calls into
gotta go to the principal, the
principal sees it, what are you
doing? And he's looked at all
the artwork says, Okay, well, I
don't know what to say. But stop
doing this in class. But I'll
tell you, what, can you do a
caricature of everybody? All the
teachers in the school? We'd
really like it. Yeah, these
these kids? Yeah.
Adam Curry: No, I'm with you.
Two of my friends got fired this
week. Yeah, I heard this one
from Sirius XM. We'd been there
for 18 years. And one from the
Disney Corporation. Yeah. Hi up,
guys. Two.
John C Dvorak: You mentioned
about the Disney guy, but you
didn't. I didn't know anything
about the serious guy. Yeah,
because what's happening is
seriously bald having a shake
up.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. They fired
four or 500 people and Steve
leads who's the guy who brought
me to who he was the guy who
called me in Holland said, Hey,
you want to come work for MTV?
And Steve Lise has been in the
music business for a lot he used
to. He was the promoter for Led
Zeppelin. Just to give you an
idea of how far back he goes.
That's, that's good. Steve
Leazes the guy you can call him
say a friend of mine is a big
YouTube fan. She's going to be
in Ireland. Can you hook up with
some tickets? And what happens
is the girl my friend went to go
pick the young woman went to go
pick up some tickets. And the
manager came out said Oh, no,
no, look, come on in. I want you
to show me the operation. I want
you to meet everybody. You know
that the whole backstage
experience? That's what Steve
leaves does for people and he's
he built up the talent relations
department at Sirius for 18
years. gone done.
John C Dvorak: New guy came in
nine was this guy do I don't
know. Okay, so I've seen this
Yeah, we
Adam Curry: know how good but
now it's real though. And when
you're a white guy and you're
over 50 There's not a lot of
opportunities for you anymore.
Of course I suggest the the or
the recommended no agenda way is
be gay for pay baby. Like come
on. Get with the program get
with the program. Anyway, so we
hope everything goes well with
CAP agenda at that fiver. Now
let's look at some of the art
that we did not choose but did
discuss what was what did we
look at although we looked at
Mega strike stuff,
John C Dvorak: you know, Paul
couture also came with a
beautiful piece of the Internet
tools PC, his artists just super
professional and I wanted to
mention that piece because it's
so pretty. It's called
discussing depreciation. Oh
yeah. And he's very good at
That's a gorgeous piece. I ended
up using another capitalist
agenda piece called sportball
for the newsletter because they
just kind of like there was
cute. Baseball with a running
down as buying stuff was like it
was not quite up to up to par.
It was some modernistic looking
very super kind of surfer stuff
from miss your Piri piri
whatever his name is and it was
just always nice. Bomb there's
some but a bomb with a tick
tock.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was the
net Tria net Reott X. And that
was pretty good.
John C Dvorak: And I really
liked mega strike. When we got
down, we'd like Mega strike a
lot there was and I wish you
wouldn't have put 1541 on or
redo it. Because I think that's
usable. In fact, I think is
reusable in different, you could
put different load monikers in
that giant ball with guys
carryings. And this was done by
B Debbie of BW or graphics. So I
assumed it very professional, I
have to assume it was a zero.
Adam Curry: We have also we like
to make a strike as a title. So
that's kind of how we got out of
that I would say What else was
there
John C Dvorak: are artists and
reflect a title, typically maybe
one or two times 15 years.
Adam Curry: And people still
making things too complicated
too small. So little words,
little balloons, people saying
stuff, it's got to be comically
big, because if you look at the
art page, you know, the Submit
was submitted artwork that is
the maximum size you're going to
see this artwork probably even
smaller on most phones and and
devices in podcast apps. So
please take that into account
that a lot of these details just
get lost. You know, like TJ, the
raffles, human resources,
sparkles, you know, the no
agenda, everything's a scam.
It's just too small. You can't
even read stuff, you can't see
it. So you have to take the
medium into account. Am I saying
that right?
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Close enough. Thanks.
Adam Curry: So appreciate it. We
also like to thank people who
support us financially. We had a
very bad showing on the last
show, and people have definitely
stepped up today. And we
appreciate that. And we like to
thank the executive and
Associate Executive Producers
upfront. These people who come
in with 200 and above or 300 and
above is really appreciated. We
started off with Julian
carpenter from Glenwood Springs,
Colorado, with $1,000. Who says
I would like to be known as Sir
blue J of the western slope. Can
I get a wet napkin and some
small rocks at the round table?
I think we can handle that
right? small rocks in a wet way.
I was kind of wondering what is
the deal with these small napkin
and wet napkin in small rocks?
Can I get a quick karma from my
mom so that she can be released
from the cold communist clutches
of Canada? Thanks. Yes,
absolutely. You got that for
your mom?
Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Sir night DC in
Sherwood Oregon, comes in with
885 that's a double D boobs.
That's the Double D boot the big
boobs big boobs. Yes. Switcheroo
thank you both could I get a
house coming from my wife this
donation and 319 should Dame her
till she gets the credit for
this. Once she's back home she
can choose for now, though Dame
bronc rider of the mountain
desert will be her moniker.
Okay. We'll
Adam Curry: do that for now. You
bet.
John C Dvorak: I guess he's the
Bronx
Unknown: got karma.
Adam Curry: So I'm going to make
her the do the switcheroo here.
Make sure we get that situated
perfectly. Okay, boom. Onward to
$400 from Lyle poate podi poate
p o te Concord North Carolina.
Okay boys. This donation makes
me a knight. I shall be called
the Knight of freedom mountain
Keep up the good work no karma
no jingles call out to my smokin
hot wife as a douchebag and he
says Welcome to the family
brother curry blessings to all
Thank you.
John C Dvorak: That brings us to
serve pice and Peoria Arizona
Adam Curry: songs you don't
think
John C Dvorak: you're already
sure it's Pisac he's in Arizona
greetings from Sir pist and of
Peoria. My previous instant
donation did not include a note
thanks John and Adam for all you
do. Nowhere else can you get
this content? Can you get it to
to the head camera like crackle
cackle, Campbell cackle and can
you see that juice?
Adam Curry: I think you can.
John C Dvorak: My gosh, can you
see that juice? Yeah. And that
was 336 dot 6633. See? Oh, yeah,
Adam Curry: interesting. Zach
Nanus is in Los Angeles,
California. Sorry to hear that
$333.33 and says John and Adam.
This donation brings me one step
closer to knighthood, which I
plan to achieve this calendar
year. I was compelled to donate
for my third time listening to
some This donation segment
Admittedly, I do occasionally
skip the donation segment to get
back to the good stuff. But
while doing the dishes last
night, I let the donations from
Sunday's episode play through.
And boy am I glad I did. When
Adam played the government
official calling for Holden
Hiscock. I absolutely lost it
and was cracking up had I
skipped the donation segment, I
would have not heard this
hilarious clip, and I shall
never skip it again. This was
clearly a sign from the universe
that I needed to make a big
donation to the show and here we
are. It may have been a silly
clip. But the perfect fusion of
news deconstruction and hilarity
is what makes this by far the
best podcast in the universe.
And there's nothing better and
there's not better ways of
supporting them with a little
treasure. May I request a little
health commerce myself for all
those who need it? Thank you
both for your courage. Yes, you
may Jack and thank you for that.
Thanks for listening.
John C Dvorak: Sure, no comes in
from David David Fuka Soto also
333 Dots research from
Gladstone, Missouri. And he just
says I heart no agenda, job
karma, please. Mercy,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs for
jobs.
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
He's usually really busy and
overseas and everything. He's
looking for jobs karma.
John C Dvorak: Nice. Yeah.
Settling in.
Adam Curry: Welcome Home
brother. Steve Bryson Bountiful,
Utah 333 dot 33 Thanks for each
and every episode, this little
donation pales in comparison to
the sanity and value you both
bring to us all but it's truly
heartfelt. Be well, thank you,
Steve.
John C Dvorak: Now we have see
there's a note here and we'll
look it up chap Williams.
Adam Curry: Do you have that
note?
John C Dvorak: I Williams comes
in a lot. And this is the
discount this has happened
before chap Williams comes to
this or checks from the bank.
Because that's the way it's
gray. And Chaplins has been
sending us 33333 including two
times in a row a couple of shows
ago were like two or three days
apart and I've not heard from
him. But we'll give him a double
up karma. Yeah.
Adam Curry: You've got karma 333
Oh, this is the Indian no agenda
meetup raffle. And they held
that in Greenwood, Indiana and
it means we have a switcheroo
the way this works and a lot of
meetup groups are doing this. We
like it a lot. Or they all throw
money into the pot and then they
have a raffle or a quiz or
something else. Some way for
someone to win the executive
producer ship for the episodes.
So this goes to Alicia mcomber
mcomber Switcheroo for her
longtime listener first time
donor I would like to do
douching please
Unknown: use ben de deuced I
have been
Adam Curry: listened to no
agenda since my boyfriend hit me
in the mouth just over a year
ago took me a couple of months
of listening on and off to get
the show but once I fell in love
with it, I've never missed an
episode. I would also like to
call out my boyfriend who hit
her in the mouth apparently
Joshua Chrome as the ultimate
douchebag she's been listening
since 2016 and still has not
donated dude. I would also like
to say thank you to everyone at
my first no agenda meetup since
this past Sunday in Indianapolis
I would not have reached
executive producer on my first
donation without them everybody
was kind and welcoming. And they
had a good time meeting
everyone. No jingles no karma.
And Hui Hui, you got it. Thank
you very much, Alicia.
John C Dvorak: And we come to
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness,
Tina is making a pot roast and
it's making me hungry. I'm
smelling it from here.
John C Dvorak: Ryan Tiernan in
North Providence, Rhode Island
see separate email sent to John
$333. And in fact, he did send
an email he did not it didn't
get forwarded to Jay because he
didn't use donation in the
subject line which I tried to
remind everybody to do and some
people forget or whatever, but I
want to before I read the note,
I'm going to tell you to put him
on the birthday list. Okay,
April 1, no other details. So
he's an April Fool's boy. All
right and Ryan Tiernan birthday
list I'm a relative newbie
writes no agenda but in a short
period of time have come to
tremendous the value of the
analysis and levity you bring to
us listeners as Nero fiddles.
I'm on the knighthood layaway
program, but when to step it up
this month and share some karma
with my jujitsu buddy Brian
Hall, recently launching the
high class white trash apparel
line. He is bringing killer
hats, tees and hoodies to the
rednecks, patriots and slaves
alike. Please share some goat
karma first venture and check
out his site at HC white
trash.com all one word is that
it? What's the White? No, what's
the HC stand for Wonder? Oh high
class high class okay AC white
trash.com Keep up the amazing
work and thank you for your
courage PS as an anti exit
strategy put those trolls and
their CPUs to work mining but
bitcoin does for the show.
Adam Curry: Yeah, trolls start
mining Bitcoin for us. There we
go.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: I'm looking at. HC
white trash.com It's kind of
funny.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was
there.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's it's
apparel. So it's high class
white trash. He's got hoodies
100% Fake and free. Yeah, this.
There might be something I might
get some of this. It looks kind
of cool.
John C Dvorak: We'll check it
out.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I will. Onward
with Rene Bernhard scooter. From
gosl It's in Switzerland. 333 I
have no notes from Rene. So
Rene. Get a double up karma.
Thanks, Renee. You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Let me look again
because I thought there was
somebody that came in from
Switzerland but I'll look yeah,
why don't you keep reading?
Adam Curry: Okay, we have Amber
Reese Reese de la Torre. Recent
receive Atari hope I said that
right St. Clair Shores Michigan
Adam in the morning Adam and
John keeping it short and sweet
endless thanks for all the
laughs and the true value you
provide us Can I please add
David M to the birthday list for
the 330 show he's added and can
I get a biscuit on my birthday
jingle?
Unknown: Yeah, always give me a
biscuit on my birthday.
Adam Curry: Next one is
protection burr in Michigan.
Thank you, Bert. Ralph in Miami.
$329.30 Hmm, I wonder what that
is. That's what that is about.
There must be something to it
from ralpha Miami is all we got
there on the note. So we'll just
have to accept that numerology
we'd love numerology dames,
Zelda, a Muskegon, Michigan,
switcheroo to win a $50 first
Associate Executive Producer,
please credit this to Sir grumpy
old Boomer from his loving
dame's Zelda of the turtle round
for a 69th birthday, which is
March 30. And I would like to
jingle 6969 Please, bet you
would. I got it for you.
John C Dvorak: 6969 Are you
back? Yeah, I can't there's
nothing there. You're gonna have
to take the next two notes. I'll
take the next one which is
nothing note which is Arthur
sundry in Riverside. I go look
for him to $250 So give him a
double of karma.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: We're getting to the
end here. Tom Gendron, Clancy,
Montana, row ducks. 222 22 in
the morning, gentlemen, my first
time donating after listening
for about half a year. Please
do.
Unknown: You've been de deuced.
Adam Curry: Also Abby to the
birthday list. It's my 45th trip
around the sun. Please send me
some entrepreneur jobs, karma
and some pass this legislation
karma. Love you all. Thank you
very much. Yes, I'm gonna give
you that. And then I want to
read a little bit of his note
here.
Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Which I did check if
it was okay to read this. On
Sunday, you were talking about
National Guard deployments to
Syria. I'm a recently retired
Sergeant First Class from the EM
Tang, Montana National Guard. I
can tell you that the majority
of the operations in Iraq,
Syria, Africa and formally
Afghanistan are conducted by the
National Guard, a large
contingent are based in Kuwait
and dispersed from there. This
has been the case for 20 plus
years, as long as these wars are
conducted under the
authorization of use of the AU
FM authorization force mandate.
I thought it was AU. Anyway, I
think it
John C Dvorak: is au MF I think
a minute. Yeah, authorization of
military force
Adam Curry: dating back to 2001
instead of formal declaration of
war, and I don't see this ever
changing. Yes. Unfortunately,
that should be Congress.
John C Dvorak: This is going to
be repealed in the next is going
to be repealed.
Adam Curry: What the Congress
has to declare war.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, this
is I have some clips about it.
It just just showed up. It looks
like that everyone
Adam Curry: was played now.
Serving for the military support
funding should be repealed. Yep.
Okay, here we go.
Unknown: Next, the Senate today
voting to repeal authorizations
for the use of military force
against Iraq. This is a
significant moment as Congress
tries to reassert authority and
military intervention abroad.
Every year we keep these AUMF 's
on the books is another chance
for a future administration to
abuse the War Powers belong in
the hands of Congress. And so we
have an obligation shouldn't
prevent future presidents from
exploiting these AUMF to Bumble
us into a new Middle East
conflict.
authorization for the use of
military force gave the US
president broad powers to
conduct military operations
without approval from Congress.
Repealing the 1991 and 2002
authorizations for use of force
in Iraq marks a formal
conclusion to the conflicts.
It's also a symbolic reassertion
of Congress's ability to declare
war. Some Republicans including
Senate Minority Leader Mitch
McConnell, oppose repealing the
war authorizations. They argued
the authorizations give the
White House flexibility to
respond to threats around the
world at a dangerous time. The
bill now goes to the house for a
vote. Speaker McCarthy has
signaled support for it. The
White House also said it
supports the measure.
Adam Curry: Wow, that's
surprising. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you can hear that
in the news. Did you
Adam Curry: know because the
military industrial complex
surely won't have it. Um, it'll
be interesting to see what what
people fold or buckle on this
one. By the way, only, only
about 150 Trolls left so they
got this content.
Congratulations, trolls.
John C Dvorak: 50 left at a 2000
Yes, not bad. It's not bad. Oh,
you mean the left attention but
there was only 100? No.
Adam Curry: No, they left they
bailed. That's a more important
thing to do than listen to
content. Continues. I've been
working a grassroots effort in
Montana to get legislation
passed called defend the guards
a lot the Lord the Lord, the law
would prevent the governor from
releasing National Guard
soldiers to combat combat
deployments without a formal
declaration of war. Yeah, I
agree. Senate bill, SB 560. Will
be heard in committee on Friday.
We need people to call the state
senators tell them to support
the bill. Yes, that's how it
works these days, get off tick
tock call the thing called a
phone
John C Dvorak: these days. bass
note and other notes which
indicate our National Guard,
which is run by the states for
various state purposes, is not
just supposed to be lifted out
to to the desert or any place
that we have an army for that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, of
course, the Army has been so
decimated, and that's probably
about right, decimated only
10% 8000 service members
wouldn't take the shot. So they
they're allowed to come back
now. Believe it or not, if you'd
want to get jobs. So be heard
this Friday. Yeah, so that's
tomorrow. So call today SB 560.
Call your state senators tell
them to support the bill. We had
it proposed in the House last
month and it was narrowly
defeated by 11 votes. So we have
30 co sponsors supporting SB 560
about 26 other states that have
proposed similar legislation
this year, and Montana's effort
even got mentioned on Tucker
Carlson show oh wow he says oh
yeah oh wow.
John C Dvorak: Wow far out.
Adam Curry: I know this is a
long note not John's favorite
that was content this is this is
this is good content. We used it
felt it was important to get
this information out there.
Hopefully no agenda nation can
make some calls as a link and a
website to sign the petition
defend the guard.us Defend the
guard.us Thank you for all that
you do you both are a national
treasure respectfully, Tom. John
drawn all right. Thank you very
much, Tom. Appreciate that.
Unknown: Yeah, it was a good
density. That's a good content.
No, no, not
Adam Curry: just donation.
John C Dvorak: Robert darland is
next and Shelby Township
Michigan 20133 And all he says
in his note is net Ned.
Adam Curry: Oh what's net net?
John C Dvorak: No, it's net net
in the chat room. Oh and his net
net the artist
Adam Curry: net net oh no agenda
social net. Oh, so Robert.
That's right. Thank you Nana.
John C Dvorak: Give me a double
up karma.
Adam Curry: You've got karma and
we have sir Jimmy James,
Oklahoma City Oklahoma $200.
Almost rounding out our list
here. ITM okie city meetup
donation new drive idea. Oh,
he's got an idea. Any D bags
that show up to my meetup will
be d d backed by a donation from
me. Whoa. To the Oklahoma City
meetup. Anyone any one of those?
I guess the okie city meetup. He
will. He will if you show up.
He'll be he'll DD bag you. This
one goes to Langdon. The D bag
at my last meetup. Well, let's
Unknown: spend D deuced.
Adam Curry: From God's abundance
to me, I give you all right.
This is good as a nice, nice
gesture and a way to go go to
his meetup. And we wrap it up
with Anonymous from Colorado
Springs with 200 bucks no
jangles and no karma. And that's
the way to go. So want to thank
all these folks for making show
1542 A good show. Yes, it is a
good show. It's a great show.
And it's only the rest are these
call outs later? Yes, we have a
couple more. And we got
birthdays. And we do have a dame
and a couple of nights. And of
course, the meetups, but for now
we'd like to thank these
executive and Associate
Executive producers for
supporting us royally today, it
is much appreciated, you can do
that too. If you'd like to go
here,
Unknown: for.org/and. A Forever
credits
Adam Curry: will go vouch for
you, thank you for supporting
1542
Unknown: Our formula is this, we
go out, we get people in the
mouth.
John C Dvorak: Have one more
note to read. Kind of funny.
This is from one of our
producers. And she's Megan. And
she writes in Hello, my husband
is a religious listening to your
show. So I sometimes hear parts
of it. Also, while I generally
agree with many things you say,
I get frustrated sometimes with
how you talk about teachers in
the United States. Oh, I have
been teaching at public
elementary schools for the past
15 years. And I find it very
bothersome. In your show, by the
way, we've only talked about
what she's gonna complain about
twice bothersome in your show
that you have said teachers are
not teaching students to read
analog clocks.
Adam Curry: I have? I don't
think we've said that. I think
we've said people cannot read
analog clocks. And that might be
education related. I don't think
we blame teachers.
John C Dvorak: I blame
everything on the education
system. So she's I think she's
right. I have taught first,
second and fourth grades in
Missouri. And I assure you that
at each of those levels, we do
in fact teach the children to
read analog clocks. The
difficulty is only analog clock
my students generally see in a
day is the one in my classroom.
This skill, like so many others
in early education is one that
needs to be practiced repeatedly
and regularly to be retained
until families start using
analog clocks in their homes
again, or giving their kids
analog watches. Students will
not become efficient at reading
analog clocks, no matter how
many times they're taught in
school. I agree we see the same
issue with counting money. And
she complains about that, too.
So well.
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree.
People don't know how to how to
give change. Not that it's a
skill you need anymore. But
yeah, that's a problem to
problem.
John C Dvorak: Me, sometimes the
customer makes out on that.
Adam Curry: So the the American
media model was in high gear
with this shooting in Nashville
at the covenant school. And as
you know, the the American media
model is that of outrage. It's
your fault. No, it's your fault
is because of this. Because of
that. We're not going to give
you that on your no agenda show.
We may give you a few examples
just to show what's what's
really going on. But first, I'd
like to say this is not a hoax.
Even though yes, a couple of
people showed up who have
survived school shootings
before, I believe those to be on
the payroll of the anti gun
lobby. And they're probably
flown in the next day just to
stand there and not really know
what they're talking about. But
to say guns, guns, guns, guns,
guns. So for those of you who
said the crisis actors are out,
yeah. Yes, I think they're PR
agents. And that's why they show
up. Now, I think most people
have seen those videos.
Unfortunately, two of my friends
know many of the families, some
of them personally, and even
some of the children who were
killed, which and one of my
friends was actually a youth
minister at this at this very
school for a couple of years and
was in the the worship team. And
so this is this hits home is
very, very, very difficult to
just discuss this cavalierly.
But there are a couple of things
we need to talk about. And I
would say the most important
one. Yes, we're all waiting for
the for the manifesto, but I
think you can already kind of
guess what's going to be in it.
We are dealing right now it kind
of goes back to the teacher.
Although this is not all
teachers. But in general we have
raised an entire generation of
under educated over socialized
and sadly fully medicated
children. And it's you know, I
were actually talking about this
we have three three daughters
amongst I have two stepdaughters
and she has one stepdaughter and
at one point or another, all of
them have been prescribed some
kind of medication. Now what are
the chances of that? At so so it
is an outrage how much
medication is being prescribed
to young people. And and the
shooter in Nashville was I think
28 From all the reports. This is
still an age where a lot of
people are either given an SSRI
antidepressant or meth, you
know, Adderall. It's not
discussed. It's not talked about
the media, just like they won't
talk about, you know, what was
happening with COVID. They're
never going to bite the hand
that feeds them. This, I think,
is one of the biggest problems.
But what's happened in America,
certainly very suddenly, over
the past couple of years, is
black lives matter. Black Lives
Matters has been replaced,
initially with LGBTQ and now
it's just T. It's trans and
trans kids.
John C Dvorak: And a new term
that is cropping up his
transgender wrist, and
transgenderism, though really
interesting for those you'll see
him.
Adam Curry: So this is being
abused. I have a lot of
different pieces of information
that are actually quite
interesting, that Tina and I
have been looking at the first
thing that that you find out is
that many children who have
autism, and that is, is
apparently really on the rise
talked about in the last show,
certainly California, mainly
because there's more, more
people looking forward and
testing and diagnosing. And I
think that over the years, we've
discussed autism, and if you are
a kid that likes to walk on your
tippy toes, you're on the
spectrum, you have autism, if
you'd like to spend more, we had
spinners. We talked about
spinning kids, but that's
autism. There is an entire
contingent of medical
professionals, not all, so I am
generalizing, who will who will
talk to these children, and will
diagnose them as trans. This is
your problem, you're trans. And
then a lot of these medical
professionals are people who
come from cosmetic surgery
cosmetic professional, it's a
money grab of epic proportion,
one child taken through trans a
trans gender transformation is
worth about $7 million, one
child to the medical community,
and it's all being paid for,
from, from the banks and
basically insurance companies.
And, and it turns out that a lot
of school districts and I think
I'd love for some educators to
chime in, are seeing something
called Screen induced Autism
Behavior, which is even more
insidious. So when when you put
children on their screens early
on, this is parents fault. But
also look, if you're addicted to
screens, you're gonna give your
kids a screen, go walk through
the mall, look at the children
in their strollers, how many of
them have an iPad, and it just,
you know, just just swiping
away, tap it. Oh, it's so great,
Jimmy, he's so smart. He
understands how to use the iPad.
In schools, you're seeing this
it's called Screen induced
Autism Behavior. It is not pure
autism. Because when you remove
the screen, there's some
withdrawal symptoms, but within
a pretty short timeframe, then
the behaviors go away. But this
is also an opportunity for trans
to be a diagnosis. And not
taking away from any anyone who
is actually has body dysmorphia
that also exists. But in recent
studies, it's all in the
shownotes, you will see that of
the people who consider
themselves to be trans or non
binary, really, it's only about
8%, who actually really feel
they're trans. A part of this is
from the induced behavior
screens. Part of it is peer
pressure. Part of it is
professionals in the schools.
There's a lot of things very,
very broken in the school
system. And so when you have an
event like this, you get as
usual in the American media
model two sides, you get the
side that is saying, well, trans
people are crazy, and they've
got guns and the trans are being
hyped up into getting guns and
protecting themselves, which is
true. Then you have the other
side saying Christian hate trans
people, and then they've been
terrorized by Christians, which
is also true. But is that the is
that the real problem here? Is
that really what's going on? No.
I think the medication part is
what is not being looked at. And
there's one other thing that is
very concerning that has taken
place in the last three years
which cannot be overlooked. And
I have to give it to CBS Sunday.
They didn't overlook it. And
this is what happened to our
children, certainly in the
United States, but worldwide
during COVID,
Unknown: it sure looks like the
pandemic is over. stadiums are
open again, crowds are
everywhere, and hardly a mask in
sight. But COVID Heard a lot of
things you can easily see,
especially in schools,
for like, I just need to stand
on a mountaintop. And just
younger folks, take this
seriously. Everything is at
stake right now. And Geoffrey
Canada knows. He's the founder
of the Harlem Children's Zone in
Manhattan. We all knew that the
pandemic was going to affect
education. But how bad is it?
We've got the data now, and
things are bad are actually
worse than most of us thought.
In fact, I would tell you that
we have an education crisis
right now.
The actual numbers vary by
community. But according to a
nationwide test given to fourth
and eighth graders, reading
skills dropped to the lowest
point in 30 years. And in math,
nearly 40% of eighth graders
couldn't understand basic
concepts, the worst performance
since testing began back in 69.
This is
not just poor kids, who were
eliminated in the urban Senate,
it's all over America, there's
been a dramatic reduction in
ELA. And in math scores. This
goes along with the loss of
students in school with the
increased violence that's
happening and the behavioral
problems that kids are facing.
In my career of more than 45
years. I've never seen anything
close to this. So
Adam Curry: listen carefully
what he's saying behavioral
problems. There's a lot going on
here. And it's not
Unknown: hard to see how it
happened. Experts say remote
teaching and a lack of computers
at home are to blame. Add to
that the fear of watching your
family members die. And it's no
wonder millions of young people
had trouble learning
Adam Curry: a reminder reminder,
the government your government's
your state's shut you down shut
your children and terrorize your
children and the media did a
good job to
Unknown: or even making it
through the day,
we have seen an increase of 50%
in the number of children
presenting to our emergency
department, from the beginning
of the pandemic to last fiscal
year 50% 50% of kids
who are in some sort of mental
health crisis. So what did this
place look like during the
spike?
Another Houston,
Chief of Psychology at Southern
California's children's health,
Orange County says even she
couldn't believe how many kids
needed help.
What we're seeing those of us in
children's mental health is it
was burning embers even before
the pandemic, and the pandemic
came in just threw gasoline on
that fire, we're seeing more and
more kids come in who are having
suicidal thoughts, we're seeing
more and more kids come in who
are like, My grades have
dropped, I can't function
anymore. And if we don't help
kids sort of manage some of
these mental health concerns,
they can't learn effectively,
because kids are struggling.
Adam Curry: And if you add into
that the screens and in
particular Tiktok, who as we
discussed, like to bring
communities together. When you
have communities on on, you know
who like conservative things, or
you know, Christians, it all
works, everyone's happy over
there. But at the same time, you
also have communities that say
things like this, they obviously
Unknown: didn't release a motive
as to why she shot at the
school. But I have a pretty good
guess. What have Christians been
doing lately, they've been
banning books about LGBT.
They've been discriminating
against the LGBT, they are
banning drag shows. So people
are screaming, oh my god, it's a
hate crime, a crime against
Christians. But how about they
are the ones that were bullying
her first.
And I can't help but think this
trans man targeted a Christian
school that he attended that he
may have had very negative
experiences at how much the anti
LGBTQ legislation impacted his
mental health to push them to
this point.
People don't just go up in and
shoot up a Christian school
being the demographic that they
are in the political climate
that we're in just because they
felt like it like all of the
other mass shootings when all of
these students like just did it
for fun, or, you know, or anti
semitic or nobody would fuck
them. You know, like those
reasons.
It seems like he was an old
student from that Christian
Academy. Also in Tennessee,
where they recently banned drag
shows in a law that is so vague.
My wife who wears men's clothes,
but identifies as a woman could
get arrested walking down the
street to Tennessee.
Adam Curry: So these things are
clearly not good. When you add
this to medicated children and
you have this type of messaging.
It's not going to end well. Now
the other you got to have a 3d
view of everybody. You look at
the other side, the school is
connected to PCA Presbyterian
Christian church in America,
which in the 70s, split off from
the Presbyterian Church, and
they're extremely conservative.
One of the things that I'm no
expert on it, but they they
won't they won't allow women
pastors, they want a No woman
can educate men, um, just just
from what I understand from my
cursory research on it. So, you
know, people are different, and
people have different views. But
when you add this the social
media, you add the screens,
which which triggers certain
behavior, and you have adults,
these are adults who are saying
this stuff, you have a recipe
for disaster we but
Unknown: the bigger picture
here, according to educators
like Geoffrey Canada, is that
this could be a kind of lost
generation, under educated to
the point where it drags down
their future.
Adam Curry: undereducated, yes,
over socialized yes and
Unknown: ours, I read one study
that these kids earnings, their
lifetime earnings will be
affected in the 10s of 1000s of
dollars.
So it's a whole cohort of young
people who are not going to get
the kind of education that's
gonna allow them to get the best
jobs, it's going to cost lots of
kids 10s of 1000s of dollars
over their earnings lump sum
hundreds of 1000s of dollars, we
keep forgetting that this is
about America, that eight year
old is going to be 20. When you
blink your eye and twin five in
a short period of time, she
needs to be an engineer, he
needs to be a medical doctor, we
need to start thinking about
these kids as the resources for
this country.
Canada says there are ways to
fix this like intensive tutoring
throughout the week, extending
the school day and keeping
classrooms open in the summer.
Alright, so
Adam Curry: anyway, CBS goes on
with that. But the core problem
is the medication, the
medication is not good. And you
add to that social media with
algorithms, which intentional or
not, are just destructive. And
it's up to parents themselves,
and they have to stop their own
addiction to this crap. Take it
from an old fart, you got to
stop this addiction. That's the
only way we're going to move
forward. And everything else. If
you find yourself yelling, you
know trans people. What's your
pronouns, or if you find
yourself yelling, Chris and John
are crazy, then you are part of
the problem. You got to step
away. This is this is the this
is how they make money off of
you. And it's off of children's
backs. Now it's pathetic.
John C Dvorak: This would be
solved with one simple edict or
law or it's just completely
obliterated, okay? Go back to
the days when it was illegal to
advertise drugs on television.
Adam Curry: I completely agree.
And we were talking about a
television is also a problem.
When you're watching television
and America, New Zealand are the
only countries in America
certainly, where you can
advertise direct to consumer. We
talk about a tension arc. So
when you're watching a show,
there's a tension arc and it
moves up and it goes up and
you're like, Okay, this is
great. It's getting exciting.
Boom, that's when they break for
ads, and then write it and your
mind is wide open, you're ready
up, you're in the story. And
it's telling you what you have,
what you might have irritable
bowel, you're fat, you have
diabetes, you're depressed, your
depression medication is not
working and fluent, then you're
backing the story. And it is one
of the most destructive things.
And you've turned it off, just
turn it off. Now there was
something funny to all of this
just to keep it light. Every
single station, when this took
place, immediately ran right
away. And you could watch Fox
and they give you your version.
And you can watch ABC and CBS
and NBC and they give you their
version. But all of them made
this. And I think it's a I would
say it's the White House press
shop, as they call it. It's
their fault, because everybody
was waiting for the President to
come out and say something. They
had people on talking about guns
and how horrible it is and the
mass shootings and everything
but drugs of course, and this is
ABC This happened to every
single station as they cut live
to the president, two things
Unknown: until we figure out a
way to create systems within
local government that are more
apt. We're going to take it to
the podium Now Brad, the
president United States
speaking.
My name is Joe Biden. I'm Dr.
Joe Biden. Ice cream chocolate
chip. If I came down here there
was chocolate chip ice cream. By
the way,
I have a whole refrigerator full
upstairs. I think I'm kidding.
I'm
not a fan. How are you, pal?
Adam Curry: Did I say Obama by
Exxon. So what happened is he
was speaking for a women's
conference wasn't notified, the
press should have been told
we're going to tell you when to
cut. Because he does have a
statement. They're all waiting
for the President to speak
waiting for the President to
speak. And then he went on for
about chocolate chip ice cream
and some kids in the audience,
because he is not media savvy.
He's barely life savvy. And it
was such a wrong moment is
exactly what we didn't need.
Although maybe you do to show
that this guy cannot be
president. This This
administration is wrong,
everything's wrong about it. Did
you see that? Any of those
cutaways very
John C Dvorak: funny there was a
number of aspects to all this
that were that was interesting
one was the insistence that this
is all about gun violence they
would the CNN in particular, but
also the networks that refused
to discuss the transit
transgender wrist aspect yes
wouldn't we never mentioned that
they would then they dead named
her which a lot of people
complained about or then named
him whose name was she? She was
She him had a Reddit account
that somebody in the no agenda
chat room had listed and I went
to it and read all the posts it
was quite interesting. This
person was something of a
counselor to transgender youth
and never hinted that she was
that this person was violent or
to get him in her because of the
color Haley but her name he
wanted to be pronoun to him for
our him he and a name Aiden
which is what this account was
on Reddit it was very
interesting the way they nobody
wanted to discuss this they
ended up just calling the callin
person Haley and let it letting
it go and not even getting into
the violent aspect of it because
there was a violent undercurrent
going on that's visible with T
shirts and and in fact the My
favorite story is the idiot and
of all things. Public relations
person in Arizona. Yeah. Is a
person who is a public relations
specialist. posting on Twitter a
woman holding two pistols and
with the physic I have a clip of
the of this oh you Hi.
Adam Curry: Wow you have that? I
didn't even get that.
John C Dvorak: I have a lot of
clips. That see gender foible is
dead naming shooter. Get to
figure out which clip idiot
press secretary clip
Unknown: transgender identity is
causing a controversy in
Arizona. Governor Katie Hobbs is
press secretary is resigning
after apparently calling for
violence against those who
oppose transgenderism. Yeah,
Arizona governor's press
secretary Jocelyn berry posted
this image on her Twitter
account on Monday just after the
Nashville school shooting. The
caption reads us when we see
transphobes the suspect in the
Nashville school shooting was
born as a woman and identifying
as a man. Hobbes's office
confirmed earlier today that
Barry resigned following
pressure from her circle and
other lawmakers. The governor's
office said in a statement,
quote, the governor does not
condone violence in any form.
The post by the press secretary
is not reflective of the values
of the administration.
Adam Curry: Yeah, she resigned.
Obviously,
John C Dvorak: it's like, wait a
minute, you're a what a press
say this is a person who's
supposed to be media savvy.
That's what the I mean, it's
just like beyond me that
Adam Curry: well, again, again,
this is the New Black Lives
Matter. It's better than black
lives matter. Because you can
you don't have to have a certain
skin color to be trans or to be
called trans or to be called a
trans phobe. And this is so
evil, so evil, and it's really a
small percentage, but even these
poor children, again, it's this
is a Washington Post poll that
finds out that most of these
trans kids are really
transgender, but they either
feel peer pressure, or they just
don't feel like they fit in
again, back to the drugs. Back
to the pharmaceuticals. This is
the crisis, but all we do is
spend time on yelling about
trans trans folk, trans anti
trans woman, not a woman. You
know, the media, the media, it's
their model, and they've gone
from racist to transphobic in
and they're and it's this CES
now it's really about now we're
really killing children.
Congratulations media.
John C Dvorak: Well, they're not
gonna stop. No. But now it's
helped out by some of these. I
have a slew of these tick tock
people complaining about one
thing or another regarding this,
okay, and I can play some of
them. Let's like, for example,
the complaint about a very, this
is a person who seems kind of
drugged up because it didn't
seem seem too important to them
about the shooting itself. But
what was really important was
they kept dead naming the
shooter and this is
Unknown: eight inhale. That's
the name of the Nashville
shooter. This video is about to
be very uncomfortable. For a lot
of us. It's very uncomfortable
for me to talk about.
Adam Curry: But when How old do
you think this? This woman is?
Who's speaking?
John C Dvorak: She appears to be
about 24. Okay, all right.
Unknown: To talk about it. Aiden
did a very horrendous thing,
period point blank, we need to
pure reform in our country, but
the way that the media and the
police are misgendering. And
dead naming Aiden is quite
concerning. It's also concerning
that I had to go to the
telegraph from UK to actually
get Aiden's chosen name. It's
upsetting that constantly is she
her pronouns? That is incredibly
frustrating. Because even though
they did this horrible thing
does not mean that we get to do
those things. That's a boundary
and we can hold people
accountable without being
transphobic even for some of the
most horrendous things. So while
you're watching this, also watch
for transphobia because it's
very clearly coming out.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this just
people make it about themselves.
Which is really, it's just
that's, that is just as evil I'm
gonna make it about myself, make
it about my video, make sure you
watch my video, make sure you
catch me talking about it,
because I'm really important.
This is very bad.
John C Dvorak: It's not getting
any better. Here's this one this
woman is. This is just a really
weird when this is gender
foibles crazy
Unknown: thing that's
complicated about my whole like,
gender situation. And I feel
like there are other non binary
people who deal with this, too,
is the fact that the way I
understand my gender and the way
that I want other people to
understand my gender are two
wildly different things. Because
I and certain people that I've
talked to about this, understand
the nuances and complicated
relationships that I have with
womanhood. So those are
included, when we think of me as
a woman or say she her like
those weird relationships are
still understood. But almost
everyone else, they don't have
that. So they don't get to call
me those things to almost
everyone else in real life. I am
not a woman and I use them. But
then because I will call myself
a woman or you as she her
understanding the nuances of it
all. I feel guilty when I feel
bad about getting misgendered by
people who should be using de
them and not thinking of me as a
woman. I mean, they're not
wrong, except they don't know
they're not wrong. They've been
told I'm non binary and I use
they them so why are they still
thinking of me as a woman?
Adam Curry: This is the outrage.
This is the oh, this this this
person is in outrage mode.
programmed to do that program to
do that no matter what your
problem is. There's no reason to
be yelling like that. And be so
angry about it.
John C Dvorak: Sure, something,
something weirdly silly about
it. But here, but here's the one
that I always thought was the
kind of a kicker because this
was this reflects some of the T
shirts you're seeing it somebody
sent me I didn't post this in
the newsletter but a bumper
sticker showing the trans flag
with a with an AR 15 on top of
it. And this is the trans woman
pushing via or I think pushing
violence.
Unknown: That's people in
Tennessee, it's hard to fucking
fight trans allies in Tennessee,
it's time to fucking fight trans
women if they lock you up for
identify.
John C Dvorak: For what I want
to just warn people this is
extremely profane. So you can
you know if you don't want your
kids to hear it, the second
thing is this is the voice of
someone who's coked up and it's
a it's got that
Adam Curry: if I can say John is
an expert at identifying people
who are coked up
John C Dvorak: well you have I
think isn't you have friends
that are good at Photoshop know
friends that are good at
identifying it.
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. Yeah,
you're you're expert at it.
John C Dvorak: I think so. And
it's a great skill to have.
Well, this voice with this
adenoidal quality is definitely
qualifies for being coked up
Unknown: fight resist you're
gonna die anyways we're going to
die anyways, it's time to
fucking resist fight them hurt
them. If they put their hands on
you beat them. We are at an
attack it It's time to fight
back. Do you hear me? Trans
people into the sea transmitted
trans women non binary fights,
if they try to arrest you, or
have you arrested or a felony
for existing, beat them team up,
game together, get people who
agree with you to come and
fight, carry a weapon at all
times. And yes, you have to
attack the police officer.
Allegedly, but it's time it's
time. If they're going to try to
jail and police you for
existing, you fight them, you
fight them. And if they lock you
in prison, fuck up the guards
bust out of prison. Jump in with
other trans people. It's time we
organize a prison bustin
Tennessee guys, so we organize a
prison bus. It's time we start
fighting, it's time if they put
their hands on you fight them,
trans people fight them, we will
not let them create a genocide
of trans people. I am so tired.
I wasn't alive the other day
with two trans people who denied
this out of my way. I just own
any trans person who disagrees
with this notion. You are not
allowed at the fucking table.
It's time to fucking fight
transgender sites around the
corner stop debating sis people
in your existence. I do not
debate my existence is not a
conversation. We fucking fight
now a we die. And we're not
gonna die debating sis people.
They're gonna have the last word
they're joining your life to
call you a man they're joining
your life to call you a woman.
They're joining your life to
miss gender you to get the right
pronouns to tell you that you're
not existing. When your ex,
Adam Curry: yeah, this is going
to end in riots. This just as
this is the Black Lives Matter
model and they've just
transplanted it. And they're
abusing children. Mainly.
Because think of the children,
which is always a good one. And
and man, I don't know. I mean,
you and I know many parents who
are all in on this too.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's,
it's interesting. And there's
the thing that's going on here,
similar to Black Lives Matter is
Marxist dialectic and what
they've done and I've been kind
of working on some research, I'm
trying to figure out when some
of these terms came along, most
of them around 1990. This is all
new stuff. By the way we're
watching and the development of
the word sis gender, yeah, is
the thing that fascinates me
because now there's two. So we
now have a split. Instead of two
sexes, male and female, we have
two genders, to gender
categories. The gender category
is trans and sis and those are
opposite. And they oppose each
other and one in the Marxist
way. One is the oppressor.
That's the SIS and then there's
the oppressed, which is the
trans. And the SIS,
interestingly enough includes
gay men. Oh yeah, gay women.
They're all cisgendered
heterosexual males and that's
all the various genders within
the SIS community. And then the
trans have all the
intersectional 's and all of
this, all these these rather new
inventions and is to create this
this Hague alien Marxist
dialectic. So you have this you
know, this opposition one group
to the other and the whole
invention of cisgender which
should have been rejected from
the get go is part of this
that's where they created it. So
you can create this this model
that you're describing is
similar to Antifa, which are
Black Lives Matter, which is
exactly the case. But you end up
with some crazy stuff and I have
two more clips. And one of them
is this one, which again is
profane, and people should be
careful this one I just was
actually kind of funny. This is
an obvious dude, who wants to be
recognized as a woman even
though he's shows no
characteristics of one but gets
bent out of shape in a store for
being called sir. And he just
goes nuts. And this is the
profane Miss agender rant
Unknown: excuse me it's Ma'am.
Ma'am. You need to settle down
Mind your business okay. Yes,
ma'am. Once again, man I said
both of you know what you said
sir. Man, I actually said both
of you guys. Right beforehand
you fucking said sir. This
motherfucker take it outside.
You want to call me sir again? I
will show you fucking sir. I
have fallen motherfucker. I need
to corporate number because I'm
going to talk call them and talk
about House misgendered several
times in the store. I need your
corporate number now. Well, I'm
going to ask you for the fifth
time to stop calling me a man
because quite clearly Not
Adam Curry: so in this Marxist
dialectic, what are the earlier
examples in Marxism, of, of
these types of division? Well,
John C Dvorak: that was what the
bourgeoisie was created for this
purpose, as a term to really
incorporate the middle class and
the elites as the oppressors of
the poor and the working class,
because the whole Marxist thing
began as a kind of a working
class, the working class, the
peasants were going to take over
the world, the workers control
the means of production. Why are
they you know, being oppressed,
and it's just an oppression
model that they can use to get
you to be oppressed, you're in
the oppressed class, which in
this case, would be trans. And
you have to you have to fight
it, you have to, you have to
revolt, you have to have a
revolution.
Adam Curry: And we're at that
stage now. I mean, now we're
actually at that stage, which I
think has very little, maybe we
don't know what the manifesto
says, again, you add drugs to
this problem.
John C Dvorak: We we kind of
know it is we kind
Adam Curry: of know what it's
about. You add, you add
pharmaceutical, this is the new
thing. I don't think that the
bourgeoisie and the peasants
that there was mind altering
drugs involved in this, of which
we don't really know how they
work.
John C Dvorak: Well, that
reminds me when I was a student,
myself in the in grammar school,
elementary school, whatever you
want to call it. I don't know
nobody committed suicide. That
alone felt like it. No. I don't
know when they started
committing suicide, but it
wasn't during those years. I
have one last clip, which is the
this is a woman on PBS
discussing some of the issues
going on, about these laws,
which she says really what's
triggering all this. And that
and in Tennessee, that you can
make that argument because the
law is just some anti, it wasn't
anti, it's not anti trans is
anti teaching kids stuff. Yeah,
it's more or less.
Adam Curry: It's inappropriate,
inappropriate behavior in front
of children.
John C Dvorak: Yes, but they
call it they like to call it
antitrack. And this is
interesting, because this comes
from the woman doing the
speaking on PBS. Not to the
host, but the woman that they
brought on is from an operation
called NBC out. Oh, no, I never
heard of NBC out. No. And NBC
out is a LGBTQ plus plus. news
source from NBC desk been around
as showed up first appeared in
2016, as soon as Trump was
elected, ah, and it is pretty
much to anti Trump anti
Republican news stories. But
let's listen to this.
Adam Curry: I just wanted to
add, whenever you hear Christian
on the news, that's code for for
Republican Trump. That's really
the that's really the idea here.
It's always been against
Christians is just Republicans.
John C Dvorak: Trump, heaven
forbid a Democrat, be a
churchgoer
Unknown: legislation targeting
LGBTQ people has just been
growing exponentially over the
last three years. So you have
more than 400 bills targeting
LGBTQ people that have been
filed so far.
John C Dvorak: This is the
second targeting. Yeah,
targeting end to end, the word
use of at least bothers me of
exponentially. And what she'll
prove herself is by showing some
stats is not true that
logarithmically just to make it
even exponentially. It's been
growing. Yeah, but not
exponentially.
Unknown: Legislation targeting
LGBTQ people has just been
growing exponentially over the
last three years. So you have
more than 400 bills targeting
LGBTQ people that have been
filed so far this year in state
legislatures. And as those have
been filed, they've been growing
increasingly more extreme. And
the best example we have of that
is gender affirming care bans.
So when those were first filed a
few years ago,
Adam Curry: notice the term
gender affirming care, gender
affirming care, this is this not
also part of the Marxist
playbook, and I think it's okay
to,
John C Dvorak: to read to
rewrite the language. Yeah.
Adam Curry: As a capitalist
country as Republic, that's
where we you and I are, that's
how you and I were old. So you
and I were brought up. This is
bullshit. This is this is new
stuff. This is not, it's made up
Unknown: as those had been
filed, they've been growing
increasingly more extreme. And
the best example we have of that
is gender affirming care bands.
So when those were first filed a
few years ago, they targeted
minors, which advocates said was
still already very extreme. More
recently, this year, we saw the
first ever bill that would have
banned gender affirming care for
people up to 26 years old. So as
they're growing more extreme
Even conservatives are also
feeling like they can add on
these bills that would have
previously sparked more backlash
like bathroom bills.
And as you just noted, bathroom
bills are not happening in a
vacuum. There was a new PBS
newshour NPR Marist poll that
found 43% of Americans now
support laws criminalizing
gender affirming care for
minors. 54% oppose such laws,
that's a 15.
Adam Curry: It's it's a bit of a
stretch to go from bathroom bill
to gender, to call that a gender
affirming care bill. A bit of a
certain
John C Dvorak: age, they bunch
all this stuff together. It's
quite interesting to listen to,
by the
Adam Curry: way, if you talk to
moe, you know, Obama's second
term, which of course, black
America knew that Obama was not
African American, a DOS
John C Dvorak: Michel, and he
wasn't doing much for the black
community either. Well, he
Adam Curry: did nothing in his
first term, but you know, well,
first of all, Michelle, Michelle
is she's a doll. So that's cool.
But then the second term, he
went right for the, for the
gender bathrooms. And that
turned everybody off was like,
okay, all right. So we're not
getting anything. And that was
Obama started that
Unknown: sparked more backlash,
like bathroom bills.
And as you just noted, bathroom
bills are not happening in a
vacuum. There was a new PBS
newshour NPR Marist poll that
found 43% of Americans now
support laws criminalizing
gender affirming care for
minors. 54% oppose such laws.
That's a 15 percentage point
increase since April of 2021. So
when you look at all of these
anti LGBTQ bills that have been
proposed, the gender affirming
care bands, bans on education
about gender identity, do you
see a difference in the outreach
to these bills?
Yeah, absolutely. We've seen a
huge difference in outreach, for
example, to what advocates have
dubbed for is Don't say gay and
trans Ville, which targets
education there, and between
outrage directed at these gender
affirming care bands. And I
think that's for a few reasons.
First, is just because most
people know lesbian, gay,
bisexual people, but they're
much less likely to know trans
people. And they're even less
likely to know trans youth. So
they don't know what their lives
look like. They don't know what
their health care looks like.
And as a result, they're more
susceptible to misinformation
about it. A lot of these bills
describe health care for trans
youth as mutilation. They say it
permanently sterilizes them that
trans children are receiving
surgeries when that isn't the
case.
John C Dvorak: That's a lie.
That's a total lie. Okay, so
where does it just keep,
Adam Curry: right? But this,
this all comes from media,
driven, in many cases by
politicians, politicians, who
will do anything to get the
votes once you get in. And this,
by the way, is not this is not
just America, I see this in the
Netherlands, a socialist country
by design. And they now have,
you know, like, Gender
Education, primetime television
with naked people. I mean, it's
really, it's really quite
amazing how far this is going.
And I think a lot of people are
like, hey, you know, maybe I'm
old fashioned. You're being told
you're old fashioned. But you
know, the result is clearly not
good. This is also coming from
all the institutions and I've
got to hand it to Matt Gaetz. He
really, really did a number on
what's, what's our Joint Chief
of Staff, Austin, what's his
name? Lloyd Austin. Lloyd. Yeah,
Lloyd awesome.
John C Dvorak: The guy with a
mask and a shield and a hazmat
suit.
Adam Curry: So listen to what
Matt Gaetz did. And he was
talking to Austin and to Millie,
and he starts off with Austin.
Unknown: I guess my question is,
how much taxpayer money should
go to fund drag queen story
hours on military bases?
drag drag queen story hours is
not something that the
Department funds. Well, wait
a second. That's actually not
what the record seems to
suggest. You were going to fund
one at Ramstein Air Force Base.
That one got canceled, but
that's DoD insignia. That's a
drag queen story hour for
children. Then also at Mount
strim Air Force Base outside of
Great Falls Montana, you had a
drag queen story hour for kids
at the Joint Base Langley Eustis
you put on a drag queen story
hour on a Saturday for the first
ever kid friendly diversity
equity inclusion summer festival
and at Nellis Air Force Base.
You had the drag you Nellis on
June 17, who funded these
things. Mr. Secretary,
listen, drag shows are not
something that the Department of
Defense supports or funds.
Why are they happening on
military bases? I just I just
showed you the evidence. Why are
they happening?
I will say again, this is not
something that we support or
fun.
So you think hosting a drag
queen story hour on a military
base isn't supporting the drag
queen story hour.
I stand by what I just said. You
may stand
by it, but it's belied by the
evidence over and over again. I
mean, are you are you aware of
the piece? Biden's military air
force base in Montana holds drag
show drag queen story hour for
kids in the western journal. Are
you aware of that?
Again, I will say when
you're saying what you're
saying, but I guess it just
doesn't comport with the facts.
Adam Curry: So then to prove
that Black Lives Matter is kind
of on the way out, or to prove
the point. I don't think that's
why Matt Gates was doing it. He
now switches to General Milley.
You'll recall General Milley
made this big deal about I want
to understand white privilege. I
want to know what it's about.
I'm deeply concerned about a
clip of it. Well, here he is.
Now General Milley.
Unknown: This would be my last
time to question you. You
mentioned two years ago that you
wanted to better understand
white rage. And so my question
is this.
Did you read this book? Oh, no,
no, no. Well,
it is what is white privilege is
the book. And it's actually
written by a DOD official, a
senior official in diversity,
equity and inclusion. And there
are now hundreds of these books
in dozens of schools. And I
wonder if you guys connect this
to your problems with
recruiting,
I've never read it, never seen
it. Frankly, I don't even think
about that stuff, I think. Next,
go and put up the next slide. So
the force couldn't put up the
next slide, please. Okay, well,
in the next slide, this is a
tweet by one of your employees
in charge of diversity, equity
and inclusion. And it's It's
patently racist. They say that
she had to give care in the
business that she talks about
cod acity, presumably, of
Caucasian people. So why does
the why is that
argument for me? That's
terrible. It's wrong. She
shouldn't be doing that parents
should be fired. I don't. That's
a DOD employee. Not US military
uniform, like
Austin. Again, as you heard at
your subcommittee here, this
this incident was investigated.
And, and employed gentleman's
time has expired.
Can I just can I get copies of
those? Because I'd like to take
a look at those myself actually
take a look and find out what
actually is going on there.
Because that's the first I'm
hearing about that kind of
stuff. I don't read those news
stories. I don't know what
you're talking about. I'd like
to take a look at those because
I don't agree with those. Well,
they're now I think those
records shouldn't be happening.
Thank you. Thank you for that
admission.
Adam Curry: There you go.
backpedaling all the way out on
the shore. So Black Lives Matter
out trans kids and gender
affirming care in and the whole
country is is and the world
really is in irons over this
because oh, you know, poor
children's gender affirming
care. There's all these words
that we're using. And it's and I
think the statistics show that
it doesn't always turn out
really well. And then just to
make sure we get all the all the
Christians and the Republicans
and the Patriots all worked up
to Fox News. Here's Miss
McInerney, who doesn't remember
her paying an awful lot of
attention to a Wall Street
Journal and University of
Chicago poll. Boy because those
guys were right about Trump in
2016, they were right on the
money. So these polls are really
you know, these polls are good
listen to this.
Unknown: When we began with a
new and disheartening poll and
the direction of where our
country is headed,
Adam Curry: right there, psi up
Incoming, incoming psi up,
Unknown: and what they reveal
about the core values that have
defined us as a country for
generations, new Wall Street
Journal poll showing patriotism,
religious faith, having children
and hard work have declined in
importance to Americans. Check
this out. Patriotism plummeted
over the last 25 years, back in
1998 70% of those surveyed
ranked it as being very
important to them. Now, just 38%
feel that way. More than 60%
said religion was very important
to them in 1998. Today, well,
it's less than 40%. And family
values, like having children
also have dropped sharply. And
it 98 59% of Americans believed
having children was very
important. Now, just 30% do. The
polls are not entirely
surprising. We have seen the
deterioration of America's core
values right before our very
eyes. You don't have to look far
from the distortion of the
American flag from us as a
symbol of patriotism and to one
of oppression. And while the
kneeling for our national anthem
on one football field, well,
that was applauded pretty widely
In the kneeling of a Christian
high school football coach,
Coach Kennedy and prayer on
another football field that got
him fired took the Supreme Court
to write that wrong. Meanwhile,
children are being taught that
America assistant system is
systemically excuse me racist.
And for those of you without
kids, while the left says don't
have them for the sake of the
planet, the polls just reaffirm
what we've been witnessing for
decades, the decline of American
values that have helped define
the national character of our
country. A
Adam Curry: couple of things.
One, if you really look at the
numbers, all this drops off 29th
End of 2019 into COVID. So you
almost have to strike that from
the record that three year
period. So they don't really
tell you that it's like almost a
steady decline. And now we're,
it's all the way down here to
once again, the very pretty
Kelly McInerney. McEnaney is
bringing in religion bringing in
a divisiveness, they all do it.
And yeah, and you got to where
does this where does this come
from? Is this truly like, like
that Russian guy said, oh, yeah,
we set this up 30 years ago, and
I mean, you know,
John C Dvorak: it's been going
it's just it's really paying its
we got enough people in the
population now that is really
paying off. You can make good
money. I talking about polls, I
got this poll thing you're gonna
read. Because I think these
polls, you know, when I read
this, you'll see what I'm
talking about. This is a poll
from intelligent.com. And it's
about college students. The
headline is, survey finds one in
April, prospective students
refused to attend Florida public
colleges due to DeSantis as
education policy. Now, I'm going
to read this thing I'm going to
read part of the results. I'm
going to read a kicker. Survey
results show that 91% of
prospective college students
disagree with DeSantis public
policies among this group, 27%
say they're unlikely to attend
Florida State School and 57% say
they these numbers are actually
quite high when you hear what
the kicker is saying they are
likely to attend those of those
unlikely to attend the state
school. 49% say it's due to
DeSantis his education policies.
Oh, really. Conversely, the top
cited reason prospective
students will attend a state
school despite disagreeing with
the Santas are all the schools
locations in school programs.
Okay. All however, 78% are
concerning certain that this
education policies will
negatively impact education.
Now, the kicker to all these
polls is who took the poll?
Adam Curry: Yes. And we'll be
good to know.
John C Dvorak: You want to hear
it? We took the poll. Okay. 1000
Florida students who disagree
with DeSantis his educational
policies, completed the full
survey. Wow. So will you start
off? Yeah. Does this remind you
of anything? 90% of all
scientists. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Climate change. Yep,
exactly. You
John C Dvorak: take a group that
hates the Santas and pull them
and they give you a negative
result unto Santas. And then you
make that the headline, this is
bullcrap. This is a virtual lie.
Adam Curry: And it's meant to
create division, the American
media model and I think you
nailed it. You can make a lot of
money with this just like
climate change. And there it is.
For the root of all evil is the
love of money.
John C Dvorak: Now, before we
split, I have one more lying
clip which will really get your
hackles up. Okay. You remember
the 2020? Portland riots? Yes,
of course. Well, let's just try
to rewrite history as best we
can. on PBS, they have this new
woman on there was kind of a
multi CultI looking south Asian
type. I can't figure out what
her ethnic background is. But
she's new. And she's takes part
in all these. And here she is
discussing with another with a
guest per book. And you'd listen
to this and tell me what's wrong
with this report.
Unknown: And Adrian, your piece
titled New anarchy, you explore
years of political violence,
some by militia groups in
America and abroad, and you
focus heavily on violent clashes
in Portland in 2020. You report
that were instigated by right
wing extremists. Do you think
that those clashes in 2020 in
Portland are a warning that that
they could potentially happen on
a larger scale nationally?
I think that when you talk to
people in Portland, do you hear
some who would say that would
happen there was really unique
to Portland, and not necessarily
replicable. But when you look at
it, sort of broadly the sense
that right wing extremists
confined a city that may be left
leaning Seeing or
disproportionately represented
by left leaning folks and go
there and sort of draw them out
into violence, which is what
happened in Portland. Certainly
you can imagine that happening
either blue cities surrounded by
read excerpts. And so I think
more than that, though, it's
less about replicating what
happened in Portland and more
just a sense that political
violence is by pretty much every
measure worsening in America and
paying attention to sort of the
how that trend line is going and
what we should be doing about
it. This
Adam Curry: was literally Black
Lives Matter of Antifa.
John C Dvorak: It was it was the
George Floyd riots, right? Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Wow, is
John C Dvorak: that right wing?
This is a lie. This is PBS
gaslighting, the American
public, at least the public that
religiously watches PBS. This is
gaslighting. This is bull crap.
Unknown: I'm gonna show my
school buy donate to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fun
John C Dvorak: and with that, we
have a few people to thank.
Adam Curry: On that high note,
everybody JC the on fire. I like
I like you on fire.
John C Dvorak: Sir herb lamb
starts us off and he's in Sugar
Hill, Georgia. We haven't heard
from him for a while. Good to
see him. And he says he actually
makes me I see what he said. He
says we have been overboard. Oh
no. So he came in with 160 16
which is two boobs.
Unknown: Oh man, man overboard.
John C Dvorak: Glad you're
joining JD and Nashville
Tennessee honor and $50 He wants
to de douching
Unknown: that too. Yeah, he
wants that.
You've been deed do
John C Dvorak: we get some jobs
karma at the end? Sure.
Abundance of coal and he came in
at 150 Sure abundance of caution
came in with a 12345 and he is
in Maitland Florida. He wants
we'll give him some
Adam Curry: his money health
karma for his mom. Yeah, you
bet. And it's Mom,
John C Dvorak: David Britton,
Charleston, South Carolina 115.
A Stephen or Stephen Stephen
Curry, a cold glassy air cold
glazier is his last name and
Fernand Fernand Dena Beach,
Florida 101 Dino and in
Carstairs, Alberta, Canada, 100.
Dino and comes in again from
Alberta, Canada with 100. If
that's true, we're gonna bump
him up to Associate Executive
Producer guy. Thanks. If you can
make a note, sir. Hold my beer.
Your buddy in Austin, Texas.
$100. Douglas Murray. They the
guy we had early the British guy
with Bezos, all his books.
Adam Curry: He was very
concerned about we need to pause
need to pause.
John C Dvorak: I guess he's in
Missoula, Montana. And he ate
338 which is boobs, meat
palindromes. You know 808 is
also boobs meat palindromes. So
you know, very good, but you got
33 in the middle, Sir Kevin
McLaughlin, continuing his
streak from locust North
Carolina 808.
Adam Curry: meet that guy.
John C Dvorak: While he's in
North Carolina probably go to
one of the meetups. I guess that
seems like a cool guy. I don't
know where locust is where it is
in the map. Robert Ludwig in
Nevada, Iowa 808 And it's a boob
donation for his late wife's
51st birthday a 310 F cancer
game Chris. He acts in
Springfield, Virginia 808. And
she has some things to say about
the newsletter and complimented
you. Just so you know. Spencer
Whitney is somewhere over in
Baffin Island BC A Oh, a lotta
eight. Oh, he's today to string
Bucha location somewhere or
Baffin Island. Tom? Tim Tao in
San Jose California. 808 Terrier
Gary blatten Wayne, Pennsylvania
7777 Dominic jacobowsky in Lake
Geneva Wisconsin. 7770 sir
silver in in Silver Springs
Maryland. Seven seven nice jobs
karma given you that at the end.
Minister cat lot of people need
karma today. Yeah, Minister cat
and Austin, Texas. You know him.
He has never missed an episode.
Austin 75 Jacob Quist in Wyoming
Michigan 75 Greg Kohler in
Evansville, Indiana. 6502 Sir
Andrew Walker in Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania. And he's 6034
showed a burst games. Jamie
Buell in Vista California 606
small business are quirky and
blue Florida. group this is 606.
Again another boob donation.
This is the best he can do.
Oscar Fernandez and wagon and
gigging wagon in in Boston
rocketing. vakantie singing in
Netherlands loves the show 60
bucks. Peter Chung, Lakewood,
Washington 5510. James
Frederick's and MacFarlane?
MacFarlane, Wisconsin 5510
That's
Adam Curry: a survival podcast
donation. Oh, that's
interesting. Oh,
John C Dvorak: that's a good
podcast. I mean, nerds in Green
Bay, Wisconsin. 5510. John jolly
and Yukon, Oklahoma. 5444.
Andrew Edwards Niceville
Niceville, Florida $51. Bob
Butland coming. Georgia $50.69.
Alan Huffman in Urbandale,
Adam Curry: Iowa, a geo City's
donation. Okay,
John C Dvorak: it's $2.42. He
mentioned it was originally geo
pages.
Adam Curry: I forgot about that.
John C Dvorak: I can guess
there's still a situps and you
know, there's actually someone's
back that up. Put it on the
internet. Sure. Jace, Janice.
Oh, I'm sorry. This is Dame
night in Edmonds, Washington. I
always remember that to $2.15
Brandon Ellsbury, in DeLand,
Florida. 5011. You rock IDM Mmm.
Got it. Now the following are
$50 donors name and location,
starting with Michael Elmore in
Gastonia North Carolina Greg
Hartlaub. In Cincinnati, Ohio,
Richard Gardner in New York,
Sunny paying and Lee Lancashire
UK. The Erin vise Gerber in Bend
Oregon, Kelsey love video in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Andrew
garland oak, Kala Florida ZEV
green in Teaneck, New Jersey,
you know that? Sure, Chris
Goodman in Leander, Texas. Ray
Howard in Kremmling, Colorado
Amy Zipkin in Greensboro,
Georgia, Kim Winship in Rancho
Santa Fe, California, Justin
Kaler and bluffs down Bluffton,
Indiana. David Steele in Mobile,
Alabama Jill woods in Ocean
Grove, New Jersey. Brian sharp
in Huntsville, Alabama. Herbert
Hesse's Spring, Texas, Brad lot
of 50s Brent Chicky in Lake
Worth, Florida Kyle man in
Cincinnati, Ohio Julie Mina Dale
in Costa Mesa, Brandon Locklear
and Sugar Hill, Georgia Aaron
Joyce in New York, Pennsylvania,
Angela Pickering and sour Lake
Texas. Pollen Kilbourne in
Lawrenceburg, Tennessee. Colleen
K Hill in San Francisco a.
Patrick cannon in Cranford, New
Jersey. Anonymous in Oklahoma
City. Andrew Watson in Fairhope,
Alabama. Claudia dilemma dilemma
the lemme in pair of Perixx
Ville, Quebec, there's a better
way of pronouncing it. I know.
Mark is benders in Cebu City,
Philippines. Yeah. That's
pronounced correct
Adam Curry: Dutchman living in
in the Philippines? No. Life.
John C Dvorak: Sir Mike and
Georgetown, Texas. And last on
the least or last two is Steven
Crummey. And l Cahoon. And the
man's in Parts Unknown. Thank
you all for helping make this
show a success. Today it was
Adam Curry: Yes, thank you all
as well. And they make good from
synonymous of Dogpatch. And
John C Dvorak: I have to explain
this. Okay. So I make a point of
always giving his numbers
outright because he has these
numbers, his codes we think
which we don't
Adam Curry: know what they mean,
but they are clearly important.
John C Dvorak: And on the last
one, I said it was what was it?
What does it say? 2415 2252 I
Unknown: think you said?
Who knows
Adam Curry: what could have have
very bad
John C Dvorak: feel bad time in
15 years that I made that kind
of blunder with a guy of the
importance of Sir autonomous so
I apologize.
Adam Curry: Yeah, of course.
Well, it's the first time and we
will try to never make it again.
Sorry about that, John. See, so
that we had that and while of
course we want to thank
everybody who support including
our executives. was the
executive producers and also
people came in under $50. These
are sustaining donations.
They're very, very important
because when like last show,
things are low at least we have
a base we really appreciate that
you can find more about that how
you can participate, how you can
become a producer of any kind.
Unknown: for.org/in
Adam Curry: A and we have a
couple of karma is here.
Unknown: You've got karma, and
then
Adam Curry: jobs, karma, jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs, or
jobs.
Adam Curry: And thank you all
very much for supporting the no
agenda show.
Ambersons Happy Birthday to
David M. celebrating today.
David Silva wishes sir grumpy
old Boomer a happy birthday
turned 69 today, John, Tom and
John drawn 45 today Robert
Ludwig wishes his late wife a
happy birthday she would have
been 51 today. Sure Andrew
Walker turns 34 today and Ryan
Tiernan will be celebrating his
birthday on April 1 Happy
birthday from everybody had the
best podcast in the universe. We
have no titles but we do have a
dame and two nights to bring
into our family. Oh, that's a
good one. You don't bring that
one out often. Sir nights DC
wife up on stage here Judy and
carpenter and Lau posts are
potay All of you have supported
no agenda show one way or the
other in the amount of $1,000 or
more. It's the honor system. We
trust you implicitly and I'm
very proud to announce the cake
be as damn bronc rider of the
mountain desert sir bluejay of
the Western slough and certainly
all night of the Freedom
mountain for you. We've got
hookers and blow rent boys and
Chardonnay wet napkins and small
rocks. We got some other things
like beer and blondes we got
Reuben Reuben and Rosae Geisha
and Saki Vaca, Manila bong hits
and bourbon sparkling cider
SBIRT, ginger ale and durables.
He got breast milk and tapetum.
Or of course the big favorite at
the round table mutton and Mead.
All three of you please go to no
agenda rings.com and anyone
could check it out if you want
to see what these handsome and
beautiful rings look like.
They're Signet rings, which
means you can totally hit people
in the mouth with them and it
will leave a mark or you can use
the enclosed wax to seal your
important correspondence with
and press it right in there. And
of course we have a certificate
of authenticity. Thank you again
for supporting the no agenda
Show. Welcome to the roundtable
know what
we got on the meetup list. These
are producer organize meetups.
This is where you need to go if
you are serious about your your
community community. The no
agenda Gitmo nation community
you can actually print just
starting in an hour. So go to
the Denver area. April Fool's
writers room meet up that'll be
today at Lincoln's Roadhouse in
Denver, Colorado. Tomorrow the
must be high number nine, seven
o'clock at McSorley's, wonderful
Saluton Taborn in Toronto,
Ontario, Canada Navia Lena Yeah,
me yeah, you're gonna be there
John C Dvorak: surely is the
best. Oh, you've been there? Oh,
yes, years ago.
Adam Curry: Also tomorrow the
2023 secret spy balloon
symposium seven o'clock at
cowboy Jax in Bloomington,
Minnesota on Saturday April
Fool's but which is no joke, the
OC Oh Casey, who Oui oui, who we
meet up not a joke. April Fool's
Day meet up one o'clock at gare
garage more and more Oklahoma.
We have the NA Fort Wayne club
33 weekend dancers at one
o'clock at halls Tavern and
Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Indiana. The Hoosiers man
they're off the hooks. Also on
Saturday local 512. No agenda no
Fool's day meet up one o'clock
and Doc's backyard Sunset Valley
of course Baron Scott of The NA
Armony armory will be hosting
that the Osaka Castle cherry
blossom blossom viewing and
amygdala shrinking 133 Japan
time Osaka Castle Park Osaka,
Japan at Sur bill of Osaka
that's actually a pretty good
group. And they've been around
for over 10 years at least. The
tiny MC delay of Anchorage April
Fool's potluck two o'clock sir
Lane's house Anchorage, Alaska,
go to no agenda meet ups.com For
details on the location. The
Northeast Ohio April Fool's Day
no foul and not a joke meet up
three o'clock a bottle house
brewery and meadery in Cleveland
Heights Ohio and the long
awaited southwest Chicago
suburbs meet up six o'clock at
two brothers townhouse in
Aurora, Illinois. This is all
Saturday, April Fool's Day FEMA
Region four championship seven
o'clock Central buffalo wings in
Ridgeland, Mississippi and we
have the SIR Jeff. Jeff tow
Hague. The US is on Sunday show
day that in the morning, not a
joke. Meet up one o'clock at
Urban 360 Pizza, Albuquerque,
New Mexico. Oh Say hi to Jeff
he's a great guy. Plenty more
meetups if you can't make those
throughout the month of April
and it continues all the way
goes all the way through next
year basically you can find all
these at no agenda meetups.com
They are producer organized. You
have no idea how much you will
have in common with people who
look nothing like you Aquila
nothing like you it's it's
incredible to witness one of
these go ones it's like potato
chips you will have to go again
and again and again and it's
connection to your community
connection is protection no
agenda meetup.com always like a
party with all the nice day be
triggered all you say is like I
got so wrapped up in everything
today I have exactly zero ISOs
John C Dvorak: I have none
either I thought you would give
us give you you had to default
was counting on you. Well, you
made a mistake. What happened
was my my little Beelink
computer blew up a really that
doesn't happen often. Well, it
wasn't a computer, it turns out
like they had a backup poll
computer so I just grabbed it
from the other room. But I
didn't I had to uninstall all
this stuff, you know, over and
over. That's why you've got an
old D T file. I had to install I
Unknown: didn't notice the odt
file it going open source. I
love that.
John C Dvorak: So I had to lay
out a guide I lost all my
passwords luckily I figured out
most of the passwords I was set
for no agenda socialists I
didn't go back on there and it
was the hardest little hard disk
that's the little the hardest
little little solid state drive
the little bitty one it's wow I
tried put it in the other
machine no not when boot that I
lost him. Yes knowing but that
machine still works but I've got
to populate it with a hard disk
as well. I'm
Adam Curry: going back in the
archives years ago I don't do
some needle drops we'll pick one
Okay, here we go. needle drop
one. Okay. needle drop to the
powerful control now that's too
long. needle drop three. Yes, my
fat all right. needle drop four.
John C Dvorak: Let's go in love
you mean it love you. We haven't
done that forever.
Adam Curry: Alright. Love you
mean it is? We have not done
that forever. Okay, that is how
about that. That rarely happens.
John C Dvorak: That happens. So
we had one thing to mention. I
do have a clip for it. Which is
that the great I'm gonna be
arrested Tuesday. scam that you
called out. Yes. You know what's
happened, right? I know. I
honestly grant play the clip
Grand Jury delayed a month and
the
Unknown: Manhattan Grand Jury
examining former President
Trump's alleged role in the hush
money case is taking a month
long break. Meanwhile, a judge
has ordered Mike Pence to
testify in the January 6 probe.
The Manhattan Grand Jury
investigating allegations by
district attorney Alvin Bragg
against former President Trump
isn't expected to vote on an
indictment for at least a month.
According to sources. The
reason? A pre planned month long
break that was scheduled in
January.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, that was
Ray storm and a glass of water,
as we say in the old country.
Well, there's a couple of things
that that I'm going to save
until Sunday. We do have some
interesting news from Ukraine,
which we did not touch on at all
today. So we'll do that. We have
well, I'm going to leave with
this. Let me see. Where did I
have this? I just had this clip
that I also Israel. I have some
boots on the ground information
about Israel, which I think will
be will be fun to
John C Dvorak: watch on the
ground about the situation in
Tennessee. I didn't hear what do
you mean? You said you didn't
say that. You get a read from a
boots on the ground report.
Adam Curry: No, I my boots on
the ground was this was real. I
have two people two friends who
Unknown: Okay. All right. Right.
Okay, that that was confused.
Adam Curry: I think that was
that was good enough. But this
one. This is Monica Crowley, who
was a former assistant secretary
of the Treasury. I'm not sure if
that's an important job. I
John C Dvorak: don't think
that's true. Yes, that is true.
Monica crotchet Monica Crowley
all she ever was was the
administrative assistant to
Richard Nixon.
Adam Curry: No. Take a look
before we leave, I don't want to
be wrong. She's not she's not
old enough. Monica. Crowley,
maybe thinking of someone else.
John C Dvorak: Or maybe there's
a different Monica Crowley,
she's not she looks younger than
she Monica. Elizabeth
Adam Curry: Crowley born 1968.
So she's younger than I am, was
the Assistant Secretary for
Public Affairs for the US
Department of the Treasury. So
that is an Assistant Secretary
but public affairs. She's a PR,
she's a PR lady. Well, that
makes sense, because she was
going on and on and on about the
banking crisis. And I thought
you'd get a kick out of this.
Oh,
Unknown: Monica, the world's
reserve currency said it's a
privilege for the United States
for the dollar to have been the
world's currency. What? How does
that relate to each individual
American? How has that changed
or impacted or improved our
lives throughout the last
several decades?
Yeah, I mean, it's given the
United States incredible
dominance in the world in terms
of the economic system, and in
terms of trade, it's kept prices
down, whether it's energy
prices, whether it's your food
prices, the entire global
economic system is reliant on
the safe and secure dollar. But
that is no longer true, again,
because we've been printing
money like crazy and devalued
the power of the dollar and the
value of the dollar. But on top
of it now, again, oil is the
critical linchpin of this, if
Saudi Arabia decides to join
with America's enemies here, and
start trading oil in different
currencies, that is going to
undermine the entire global
economic system. And here at
home, you know what it's going
to mean, for us, it's going to
be raging inflation, so much
worse than anything we have ever
experienced. Well, and I'll tell
you, they're setting it up so
that they can then come to the
rescue by introducing central
bank digital currencies, if they
were to do that. And the United
States already has a public
program. That means the loss of
your individual economic
freedom, because the government
will have total access and
control of everything you buy
and sell and the ability to turn
it off like that.
Adam Curry: Oh, man, when I hear
that, I know, I know. It's never
gonna happen. ruin it. totally
ruined it. I thought she was a
real like financial person.
She's a PR lady. Jip, Jip again,
John C Dvorak: was she also has
a race used to have a radio talk
show and yeah, she's,
Adam Curry: you mean like us? We
have a radio talk
John C Dvorak: show. Ken arena.
Adam Curry: Alright, everybody.
Hope you enjoyed today's
deconstruction of the news. I
hope that your amygdala is
properly sized. Let's not go out
and rage and don't fall into the
outrage trap that the mainstream
media, social and otherwise
wants you to fall into. It's
just not worth it. Go outside.
Take a deep breath,
John C Dvorak: right? Yes,
exactly. That's some fresh
Adam Curry: air. Have a glass of
Pinot coming up next we've got a
no agenda stream.com hawk story
with Carolyn Blaney and and Sir
John Fletcher. Episode 345.
That's got to be a good one. And
of show mix. We've got a nice
Sir Michael Anthony produced by
Matty J A joint and a classic
from Darren O'Neill, which is
DeVore X chair gently squeaks by
popular request coming to you
from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here and FEMA Region
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry.
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley, I'm John Cena
boring. We return
Adam Curry: on Sunday with
another show of full of
deconstruction. Till then
remember us at the vortech.org/n
A. Adios mofos and a hui Hui and
such in the morning
Unknown: love as media
deconstruction for share
jellies, Squeaks stovies allies
and worldwide
gently squeezed.
No grease
Stone Hill And now
I love the world and I can see
evidences burning for as chair
gently squeeze lies no
gently squeeze suite
know you can't ignore it
hauritz
World
gently squeezed is tricky round
cream gently sweet
gently swaying
yo city receives your mail we
got too many we got we got too
many hate grants everybody in
this city knows that moving
outside of my house second time
rats and rats on the train bats
on the street and rats in my
brain the only good rat is a
dead rat ain't gonna stop until
every rat is facing speakers but
a new SI and know where to eat
notice money that was the order
in which to be wrapped up in
even by crying every 38 drags a
pads everybody
MoPhO boruch.org/in A loving
minute