January 6th, 2019 • 2h 44m
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as you said like a Lebanese
merchant
Adam curry Johnson 1101 this is
no
agenda Silicon Valley where
it's raining
it's raining its global warming
I'm John
Steed abour oh boy it's raining
oh my
goodness what are you gonna do
in
California I don't know there's
water
pouring out of the skies it's
the end of
global warming's apocalypse oh
wait look
we know since the 18-49 people
have been
writing about the hellhole that
is
California yep nothing new
nothing new
and we missed the Zephyr holy
bash
second show thee of the year
already
missing the Zephyr
I hear that too for coming and
it's
rolling round the bend
you've inspired people John
inspire
people
hello hello I said you inspire
people
and you were just very quiet I
was
laughing who was it with the
Johnny Cash
flow that's who do you think it
is it is
it is our drunken Chris yes
because I do
that voice man he did a whole
end of
show song for us and see Matt
did this
one
you know long after we are gone
these
songs will still be floating
around the
internet they won't know or
know why wow
man
2019 back in the day those guys
were
weird weirdos what is this
zephyr they
keep talking about come on
let's get
back in my flying car yeah
that'll be
the day is yes before we start
we have
travel advisories from the
United States
State Department travel warning
for
Americans going to China be
careful but
also travel advisory for Italy
terror
advisory no less yeah terrorist
groups
continue plotting possible
attacks in
Italy terrorists may attack
with little
or no warning
that's how it works massive
terror
attack in Italy that affected
the
tourists I think I you know I
sent this
to Willow who lives in Florence
that's a
actually Thea's oleh outside of
Florence
and she said oh this is because
of our
art a whole government they're
putting
fear into everybody and somehow
that's
trickling up or through or
whatever
that's what she said
says it makes no sense they
make sense
at all but I do like how the
State
Department formulates it
terrorists may
attack with little or no
warning really
this is a revelation yeah they
gave lots
of warning told people with the
neighborhood is gonna be and
they were
when they were gonna attack how
they
were gonna attack and what day
they may
be targeting tourist locations
transit
transportation hubs marketing or
shopping malls markets or
shopping malls
local government facilities
hotels clubs
restaurants places of worship
parks
major sporting and cultural
events
educational institutions
airports and
other public areas when was the
last
time in Italy that any of those
places
were targeted by terrorists I
don't know
I don't know
never mm-hmm no they've had
stuff go on
in Italy they've had problems
that's
usually that's damn blown up a
church
hmmm places of worship yeah
maybe a
mosque
yeah well that's also a place
of worship
yeah well I mean that me that
would be a
target for some of the
terrorists who
hated the other sect but I'm
not buying
it huh well I found this week -
or this
weekend to be a little tougher
even than
Christmas as people still were
just
really weren't quite back and
you know
there was I think there's a lot
of
people on furlough and to pull
out to
the post office to get the mail
there's
like five pieces there said the
usual
tan 115 cows that were
suffering again
yes checks and but I mean it
comes
Avenger let me let me just get
this
right so the furlough or the
partial
shutdown as it's called is
hurting the
show directly
yeah I think so because people
get do
our people that listen to this
show
that's dead donate yep
they get a check in fact we
probably
when we probably have more
government
listeners than we realize
probably and
probably more of them not
donating than
we realize that probably is a
little bit
but I think we don't think it's
just a
direct connection I think a lot
of it's
just a the overall connection
because of
the slowed down of everything
and
they're trying to snap out of
the
holiday season and all that
sort of
thing right yeah DC girl who
would know
says payroll goes in on the 9th
and
payday is or is not the 11th so
that's
that's when that's the real
date when it
starts to get difficult for
people
I I must say Oh Trump says it
could go
on for years that's not exactly
what he
said I watched his I watched
his Rose
Garden appearance which I
thought was
one of yours I thought when it
was it
was one of his better
appearances he was
very calm he was reasonably
coherent he
didn't have a lot of the a
world thing
but me didn't have a lot of
that Bob
took questions did another one
of those
fun hey you know shall I keep
asking me
one you got more questions so I
keep
this going a little bit you
guys like it
even through a question to that
what's-her-name from the the
black radio
network
I have no you're not Anna
Navarro but
the other one you know what I'm
talking
about yes you do enjoy
no no she's MSNBC no from the
the April
Ryan oh god the work yes and
she had an
okay question and he's a no good
question he was like he was
happy
everyone was nice and and he
was kind
although as I'm watching some
watching
it I'm thinking in my head he's
bringing
in so first of all we just kind
of
change the wall to Bay can be
steel it's
American steel area area but
steel so be
good for American companies okay
interesting and then he brings
dhaka
back in he literally said I
want people
to come in and have a pathway to
citizenship we need the people
he said
all these things and I'm
thinking maybe
this wall maybe this five point
six
billion five billion is just is
just
kind of a no maybe he's going
for a full
immigration deal
who knows they just it just
kind of hit
me like just going for
something bigger
I was gonna now analyze it
correctly
whatever he's up to he in his
rose
garden statement he did make it
very
clear he has a he has his
fallback
position yes good so first let
me know
when you get tired I'm not have
you
considered using emergency
powers and to
grant yourself authorities to
build this
wall without congressional
approval and
second guess I have to go you
have yes I
have and I can do it if I want
so you
don't need congressional
approval to
build no we can use them
absolutely we
can call a national emergency
because of
the security of our country
absolutely
no we can do it I haven't done
it I may
do it I may do it but we can
call a
national emergency and build it
very
quickly and it's another way of
doing it
but if we can do it through a
negotiated
process we're giving that a
shot so is
that a threat hanging over the
Democrats
I never threaten anybody
hmm alright the only promise
since when
but the best part and if I had
had a
beverage in my in my between my
lips it
would have been spewing
throughout the
throughout the common-law condo
and it
kind of fits in with this Trump
the
stock whisperer because
whenever he says
oh well you know you might want
to buy I
don't know I think it was just
a glitch
in the system it's yeah the
market went
up a thousand points the marked
the
trading day after he said that
do you
recall he was saying he was
pissed off
about the price of oil he'll
he's done
that a number of times well he
did heat
address this specifically in
his Rose
Garden speech now all of this
stuff is
changing now this is a fair
deal this is
a good deal for Mexico frankly
oil
companies and other companies
have an
incentive now to go to Mexico
and take
away lap and that's why we're
keeping
gasoline prices so low you look
at
what's going on with gasoline
prices
I mean it's rather incredible
if you
look back four months ago oil
hit 83
dollars
eighty-three it was heading to
a hundred
and then it could have gotten
to a
hundred and twenty-five you
want to see
problems let that happen after
I made
some phone calls to OPEC and
the OPEC
nations which is essentially a
monopoly
all of a sudden it started
coming down
I'm very happy with what's
happened and
I'm very happy that people are
paying a
lot less in many cases than $2
a gallon
for gasoline you look at what's
happening everyone's talking
about
didn't happen by luck it
happened
through talent and I believe it
in this
case I totally believe that I
believe
whatever talent he has he
pulled it
together and said I had
this whole cash OB thing let's
start by
lowering the price that's
written us
down a bit you guys are pissing
me off I
just thought was funny talent I
got it I
got to learn how to say that
myself the
show isn't just good because
it's
because talent yeah it's hard
to pull
off he does it in the way he
does it
it's like you know it's just
like
they're just like a kicker at
the end of
it at the end the end of an
Origin the
clip is a good clip it was very
very
funny did you have any wall
clips you
have anything I got a couple
related
wall clips you know it's just
the wall
was tedious more house action
so he
started he started this mmm on
brightest
Friday and did it his first ever
appearance in the briefing room
first
ever appearance in the briefing
room
ball he divided want to point
something
out this was I think I may have
a clip
about that but this was pointed
out by
every this is more important
than
anything that these these
networks and
democracy now and the rest of
them all
the same it's like all I got is
the
first appearance ever ever and
I think
he'd I don't believe that's
true but
okay let's say it is and then
they said
he just he just told the press
what he
wanted to tell him he's he
called the
briefing and he told him what
he wanted
to tell him and then he didn't
take any
questions what kind of a
briefing is
that it's a briefing all right
that was
the first appearance of
President Donald
Trump so significant for that
factor
however he also he did not take
questions I want to discuss
this with my
panelists members of this Union
the
national of national Border
Patrol
Council which endorsed him in
during the
campaign so these are current
and
retired Border Patrol agents
right these
represent Border Patrol agents
not the
Border Patrol we're and he has
them
behind him but it's just
pulling the
spotlight back to the White
House and to
his point of view but it's he
didn't
even take questions oh no it
doesn't
really explain I think if the
Democrats
can make their point and it was
there they also say they bill
kristol
this guy has fallen so low to
be sitting
on the panel discussing whether
the
president's have this we have a
continuing resolution for the
Department
of Homeland Security for a
month we will
debate the border issue
meanwhile we
have these six other agencies
of the
federal government that you are
closing
down and holding hostage and
we're
willing to pass bipartisan
appropriations bills for those
I think
it's a very hard argument for
some
consistent by not addressing it
right
and we need a wall thank you to
be clear
this is basically this is a
stunt I mean
this isn't a briefing so we
thought
there was going to write a
briefing is
questions a briefing is
questions you
heard it here first briefing is
questions why are you arguing
with Bria
Brie on don't argue with her
she's the worst a briefing is
questions
you don't even know who she is
am I wrong here's my question
regarding
this if it's Bria free if so
much of the
country is really up in arms
about this
it really really wants this
wall may or
may not be true but before you
go on
before you I want to stop and
and read
you the definition of a brief
word
briefing hmm does it include
questions
no Oh a meeting for giving
information
or instructions that's one to
the
actions of informing or
instructing
someone has nothing to do with
questions
and answers press conference
nothing
like that it's a briefing and
everybody
including that clip you have
was up in
arms about this a last minute
briefing
that that was done a briefing
right a
briefing is questions yeah no
so that's
all they could argue about is
whether it
was a briefing or not was really
interesting but I'm thinking if
people
really want this we apparently
the capability in America to
mobilize
millions of people with pussy
hats and
you know we can get people on
the
streets and they go down to DC
how come
this doesn't happen for
something as
incredibly as important as the
wall why
isn't that happening I see
that's almost
my question I mean is it only
the left
with pussy hats who can
organize is the
right that left is the ones who
go on
the streets
well why doesn't the right do
that if
it's if it's life or death
right when the right does that
as and
case in point would be the tea
party
they actually would go out into
the
street they tend to be elderly
or older
yes and there are young ones in
that
group but then they started
usually go
on the street with any sort of
signs
that are need to even reflect
mirror
reflect the kind of signage
that they
have on the left they're called
a bunch
of Nazis and that's why they
don't want
to cut it down so they can't go
do
anything hmm but the left are
then
called an anti fob by the right
and then
you can make an article those
anti far
you're right well I just think
if its
life or death people would take
to the
streets I'd hope they would but
they're
not so you just gotta wonder
right
actually do it when they're
conservatives right the old
farts and
everybody else takes to the
streets for
over something it's not gonna
be pretty
but this wall issue is is about
two
things one is just not giving
Trump what
he campaigned on that's
definitely part
of it and the other leverage
for 2020
and it's it's also leverage for
a real
immigration deal which includes
some
pathway to citizenship which the
Democrats desperately want
that's that
is that's what that's their
position and
Trump was talking about this in
his
speech he's saying look well
first of
all put more money into the
into the
regular ports of entry where
people are
overstaying their visas which I
hope
would mean an exit stamp which
is what
every country in the modern
world has
the track of people ever left
yeah and he's talking about
pathway to
citizenship I think something
much
bigger may come out of this and
I don't
know who this person is Cheri
Bustos
she's apparently congresswoman
from
Democrat for Illinois even
heard of her
I've never heard of her
well she is also the
chairperson of the
DCCC and she explains what that
is in
this clip and just listening to
her I
think there's a lot of room and
I think
they may be further down the
path than
the press wants us to know
where is the
room for a deal well the room
for a deal
is that there's got to be some
give-and-take it's I worked in
the
private sector my entire career
before
coming to Congress in fact I
was a
journalist for 20 I almost
cooked almost
20 years almost AIDS
why don't we know where if she
was a
journalist for 20 years this is
bugging
me well look looking and then
we're just
under 10 years but as you know
when
you're not on camera when
you're working
with your producers and your
photographers and all of that
you know
you got to have a little
give-and-take
and if we are unwilling to do
that we
will not improve the way this
place I'm
standing in the US Capitol
right now we
will not improve
the way Congress functions and
you know
with or up to me I would go
into a room
I'd lock the door and say we're
not
going to leash until we open up
the
government again it is not that
hard and
I think one of the point worth
making
the the wall that President
Trump has
talked about now for many years
because
this was a defining theme when
he was a
candidate it is nothing more
than a
symbol if you look at it from
this
perspective if we have a
partial wall if
we have fencing if we have
technology
used to keep our border safe
all of that
is fine but it has just become
this
symbol that the president is
not having
any give or take when it comes
to this
five billion dollars so you
said there
needs to be give-and-take and
then you
said that you are supportive or
at least
open to the idea of a partial
wall
fencing technology is that the
give here
are you willing to give some
additional
funding beyond the 1.3 billion
for a
partial wall fadna I hadn't
even heard
this 1.3 billion number yet that
Schumer's number he said that's
what
he'd be willing to give for the
wall or
fencing but none of us for the
wall it
was for border security now I
think or
technology well keep in mind
I'm not
sitting at that table doing the
negotiating I mean I'm running
the
Democratic Congressional
Campaign
Committee it means I have a
seat at the
leadership table but you have a
vote in
Congress and you are a member of
Democratic leadership and
people are you
know you've got four votes for
Speaker
and I don't mean to diminish
that people
listen here's what is this four
votes
for Speaker
fifteen members of the House
refused to
vote for Nancy Pelosi the votes
okay got
scattered around I got things
are you
saying that that is where you
believe
Democrats should give I believe
that
when we are looking at many
issues
whether it pertains to
rebuilding our
country and passing what I hope
will end
up being a trillion dollar
infrastructure package to
rebuild our
roads or bridges I roads and
bridges and
water how about that what if we
fold it
into the infrastructure bill
well sure lot of wiggle room
with a
trillion dollar mark well she's
talking
to I does she bring that up in
relationship to this in rural
broadband
or whether it has to do with
lowering
the cost of health care
including the
exorbitant prices of
prescription drugs
whatever it is what I'm saying
is we can
have a starting point that we
go in
there and we say this is
ideally what we
would like to see happen but in
the end
we might have to give or take a
little
bit it's just the way the world
works
its way the way our families
work I'm a
mother of blah blah blah
I think there's room there and
she's
signaling this yeah maybe
I'm not saying she's not Pelosi
the one
who really calls the shots
she worked at the Quad Cities
times as
the nightshift police reporter
wow
that's a gig and she actually
got a
master's in journalism from
University
of Illinois to get the gig
yeah well that in those days
I'm gonna
hold she is but in olden days
you'd get
you come out of college 57
yeah you come out of college
and you if
you had any journalism chops
whether you
were the editor of the school
paper or
you were taking journalism
courses you
get offered these sorts of gigs
around
the country when they had real
newspapers and they was always
starting
off as always a good some cop
beat you
had for the police department
and that's
it they actually kind of made
the the
reporters a little more street
savvy
because they actually know
we're out
there yeah they they get
getting some
real information yeah
those days are over oh yeah
alrighty
think we're done with the wall
I just
thought it was interesting that
you know
how'd that it just seems like
something's something's going
on this I
did I think we will get to
something
some better be going on well it
has to
yeah well they talk about this
a little
bit on democracy now let me let
me give
you an example here is a Amy
Goodman is
gonna talk about they're gonna
talk to
very detailed information about
the wall
and some of the things that
went on that
are going on in the various
administrations let's play this
this is
Amy regarding shutdown as the
government
shutdown moves into its 14th
day with
800,000 federal workers either
being
forced to work without pay or on
furlough and they won't be paid
we go
now to Capitol Hill where we're
joined
by Democrats what do you mean
not true
give everybody back pay for
being put on
furlough that's way they blood
of him
like going on furlough and then
why is
she lying to us I'm wondering
myself
because I think she knows the
the
reality of it there must be
somebody
that's that's not gonna get
paid I'm not
sure what the point of that
comment was
but and they won't be paid we
go now to
Capitol Hill where we're joined
by
Democratic Congress member Judy
Chu of
California she's the chair of
the
Congressional Asian Pacific
American
caucus Congress member Chu is
also a
member of the Committee on ways
and
means along with Democratic
Senator Jeff
Merkley of Oregon she's
introduced the
shutdown child prison camps act
a recent
piece for the Pasadena's I want
you to
get your pencil because there's
gonna be
so many details this is already
interesting the title of this
act yeah
it wasn't but you'd now you're
gonna
hear all the really important
stuff so
really start writing down notes
news his
headline shut down Trump's
child prison
camp Congress member Judy Chu
welcome to
shutdown
Trump's child prison camp is
that
seriously what I just heard
yeah all I
got to back it up for the title
of that
act he's for the Pasadena Star
News his
headline shut down Trump's
child prison
care Congress remember Judy Chu
welcome
to Democracy Now congrat
Galatians on your swearing in
yesterday
along with the most diverse
Congress and
US history your thoughts being
in that
room and the comparison of the
diversity
in color religion ethnicity
sexual
identity on the part of the
Democrats
versus the Republicans oh it
was just so
incredibly exciting to be there
with the
now majority in Congress you
could see
the stark difference just when
you
entered the room as the
proceeding
started and that is on the left
side of
the room where the Democrat sit
there
was tremendous diversity we
have a
record number of women in
Congress now
there are over a hundred women
in
Congress but most of them are
on the
Democratic side but there is
also
tremendous diversity we have the
greatest number of Latinos
African
Americans and let me also say
we have
the greatest number of Asian
Pacific
Islanders elected to Congress
now we
have gone from 18 to now 20
agen Pacific
Islander members of Congress
but it is
so exciting that we have now
the first
two Native American women in
Congress
and the first two Muslim
American women
in Congress right United Colors
of
Benetton it's beautiful hey hey
where's
this from it what are they
talking about
just sitting there patting
yourself on
the back yeah there's a bunch
of more
women these people reelected
it's not
talking about qualifications or
what any
of them are any good they
haven't even
been in office for ten minutes
but
they're just all well useless
know if
you look at how the Democratic
Party
runs and what issues they run
on its
diversity and they said we're
gonna get
make it more diverse and they
did they
didn't say they were going to
get anyone
right for the job and they may
very well
be I don't know but they said
they were
going for diversity they
delivered on
their promise let's go with
part two the
first day was to be able to
change the
rules so that we have great
transparency in Congress and it
was also
to pass bills that would end the
government shutdown on the
rules issue
yes and unfortunately since the
last few
congresses since Republicans
took over
we have had a lack of
transparency so
our whole goal was to change it
so that
for instance we could have a
bill 72
hours before it's voted upon so
we can
actually read it and
contemplate yeah
we'll hold you to that one
don't worry
this woman wasn't this Obama's
promise
when he first became president
at all
and it's gonna be everything's
gonna be
on c-span and you can read the
bills and
all the rest of it yeah that
didn't work
either
that wasn't Nancy Pelosi one
says we
gotta pass this bill so you can
read it
to see what it says yes yes
that's
correct in other words she just
fully
crapped like the rest of them
with this
nonsense
no no they put out a bill 72
hours in
advance before they even bring
it to the
floor and in fact I'll read
from it in a
minute so they did that they're
working
on it they're getting better
that we can
have an end to these conflict of
interests so for instance
members of
Congress cannot be on corporate
boards
and also so that we can have
greater
diversity amongst our members
that board
thing they're not talking about
the real
conflict of interest stuff
which is a
defect that stock trades can do
stock
trades based on what the
legislation is
gonna be in advance legally and
they
have to report it it's only but
it's
available only in the basement
of the
Library of Congress not not
kidding no
cops no copies can be made and
leave the
premises no electronic
equipment you
have to bring pencil or a great
memory a
greater - wait wait so they
they make it
they lately let that slide but
they talk
about this board member thing
knowing
full well that none of these
diversity
folk or anybody on our boards on
boards except maybe some public
you know
some Soros boards which don't
count
there tell my corporate boards
of
money-making companies so
Rossum only
applies to one half of Congress
so they
can still be on this on a board
of a big
NGO well I'm pretty sure that's
true I'm
not not looking to that that's
interesting that's interesting
if that can be shown then you
can see
that this is just a bigoted
anti-business kind of thing
let's hear
the word diverse guys should be
on
boards of corporations of
course not but
if you're gonna start limiting
things
you're better limited evenly yes
get some diversity we can have
greater
diversity amongst our members
allowing
religious headgear on the board
so those
were our rules never religious
headgear
always reminds me of the braces
I had
with the headgear my hat I
hated those
things had had wear him to
school had to
do three notches on the right
two
notches on the Left that's
headgear on
the floor so those were our
rules
packages but the most important
thing
was that we do not continue the
suffering of these federal
workers these
800,000 federal workers who
either will
not be paid or will be paid
later and do
not have a paycheck now you
want to hear
the bit from the bill that they
brought
out before they bring it to the
floor
the 72-hour bill yeah it's from
sarbanes
put it in yo sarbanes from
sarbanes-oxley sarbanes-oxley
one of the
worst laws in effect ever
episode he put
out the for the people act of
2019
producer Todd caught this and
pulled out
a couple of things this is to
you know
more transparency rectify the
elections
get our elected lecture system
in order
and a couple of points page 39
the voting age shall be lowered
to 16
makes sense
any citizen will be able to
request a
MyVoice voucher worth $25 so
this is a
voucher you get to even out
money in
politics and you can spend that
25 it's
federal money you can spend
that $25 on
any party or individual you want
colleges can automatically
register
students to vote but are not
required to
ask if they are US citizens
according to
the bill there's a number of
triggers
for automatic voter registration
non-citizens who are registered
to vote
cannot be charged with the
crime unless
they knew they were violating
the crime
Sosa get out of jail free card
there
within six months of an
election people
cannot use the cross state
registration
database to find people who are
registered to vote in more than
one
state because that's voter
suppression
that's a Republican tactic you
see to
find corruption is it is is
right-wing
craziness oh my god that's a
that's
unbelievable voting rights will
be
restored to convicted criminals
as long
as they are not in jail on
Election Day
and all states must allow early
voting
and polling locations must be
moved
within walking distance of bus
stops
let's back up
this is in that bill that's
supposed to
yeah the for the people act for
the
people act
it's pretty good right
yeah it's a scam as usual yeah
slipping
one by but right what so what
does the
media say about this they must
have read
this over and said this notice
these
these anomalies uh yeah I have
a clip
right here if you know what I
mean of
course they don't say anything
about
that come on you know the
answers it's
just it's just shameless thank
you thank
you our thanks to our producer
for yeah
digging this out that's what we
do on
this show yeah and put the I
put the
whole PDF in the show notes any
show
notes calm you can go find it
there but
it's pro oh by the way from the
future
time for if we can just deviate
or do
you have more on the diversity
diversity
buddy got diversity or on the
20/20 no
do one we see five again 2020
hold on
before we do anything yes
so who do we still have running
the
three B's
Beto Biden and bingo who's a
third be
that oh by Bernie Bernie
we have Kamala Harris and I
think that
CNN has really decided to cut
Biden out
of the three B's and is and
they brought
in Sally cone everybody's
favorite to uh
to take him down and let
everyone know
that yeah Sally cone besides
being a
journalist I think she's good
although incredibly biased you
know I
think she has ties to the
Democrats that
are deeper than the surface may
show I
always think she has inside
info so
here's Sally :
let's turn the page and I know
it's so
early but Senator Dianne
Feinstein says
she would back Joe Biden if he
ran in
2020 of you guys heard this and
not only
is it interesting Sally to you
that
she'd say something like this
so early
but also just keeping in mind
senator
Kamala Harris is her fellow
California
senator what do you think I
mean good
honor I have to respectfully
disagree
look when someone says I want to
respectfully disagree what do
they say
that
oh well that's a good question
to
analyze because people say it a
lot
listen I I just respectfully I
disagree
I think it's haughty it's I
think it has
bad connotations I think it
means you
you think the person is full of
shit
yeah you don't want to say it
like hey
you're so stupid you're so
wrong I'm
gonna tell you how it is I
think you're
right that's kind of that's
kind of what
it means another one good on
her good on
her is that even mean you know
I'm
hearing having haven't grown up
in
Europe growing up with the
Germanic
languages I'm hearing descent
and
sentence structure certainly
between
Dutch or German and English
everything
is reversed so instead of
saying what do
you say you literally say what
say you
and I'm hearing this coming up
now what
say you in something in certain
circumstances people use this
and to say
good on you it's good for y'all
you know
it's like a Germanic thing
that's coming
in it's very odd to me where I
hear
these sentence structures that
are
different from the traditional
English
usage
good on you good on her good on
her if
you don't say it with the right
intent
intonation sounds stupid like
oh well
good on her yeah that sounds
nasty yeah
it doesn't sound right
I mean good honor have to
respectfully
disagree look I think it's the
prelude
to fu has name recognition
people like
him and in fairness he's the
most sort
of populist seeming of a long
legacy of
centrist corporate Democrats
right he
talked - he's from Scranton he
talks
about that all the time and so
he sort
of seemed like the most popular
bearing
in mind he's from the great
banking
state of Delaware but but he
kind of he
earned that reputation but in
fairness
the country yeah corporate
centrist
Democrats but certainly in this
moment
that is so tone-deaf and out of
step not
only was what the country needs
but with
what the American people across
the
aisle what and and it turns out
we're a
fundamentally more progressive
inclusive
populist country that wants
things like
higher taxes on the rich
climate change
and corporations and big
business to be
held accountable and we need
Democratic
candidates who I don't know
actually
sided with the majority of
Americans not
to mention the majority of
Democrats as
opposed to siding with big
business in
Wall Street
Uncle Joe just got shoved in
The Wall
Street way to go south she had
Hillary
she's there already - yeah she
runs a
think-tank that she found it
Sally she's
only sometimes a commentator
only a stooge for the Democrats
yeah
she's Democrats now she
mentioned the
higher taxes and I'm gonna
bring it
right back to what I said
earlier
AOC who I and I'm sorry have
the AOC
clip yeah I have it too okay
let me see
how long has your clip yours is
oh you
have 142 we're going with your
clip your
talk about zero carbon
emissions no use
of fossil fuels within 12 years
that is
the goal its ambitious yeah I
know that
posture of everybody happening
to drive
an electric car it's going to
require a
lot of rapid change that we
don't even
conceive as possible right now
what is
the problem with trying to push
our
technological capacities to the
farthest
extent possible this would
require
though raising taxes there's an
element
where yeah there people are
gonna have
to start paying their fair
share in
taxes tax rate you know you
look at our
tax rates back in the 60s and
when you
have a progressive tax rate
system your
tax rate you know let's say
from zero to
$75,000 may have been 10% or
15% etc but
once you get to like the tippy
tops on
your 10 millionth dollar
sometimes you see tax rates as
high as
60 or 70% that doesn't mean all
10
million dollars or taxed an
extremely
high rate but it means that as
you climb
up this ladder you should be
contributing more what you are
talking
about this big picture is a
radical
agenda compared to the way
politics is
done right now well I think
that it only
has ever been radicals that
have changed
this country Abraham Lincoln
was a
radical decision to sign the
Emancipation Proclamation
Franklin
Delano Roosevelt made the
radical
decision to embark on
establishing
programs like Social Security
that is
radical do you call yourself a
radical
yeah you know if that's what
radical
means call me a radical I
really like
this girl she is going places I
know you
think
it's to me I don't like her in
the least
I think she's I do think she's
stupid
and she's an idealist and a
goofball
I think she's something of a
goofball I
just do not see what you see I
know what
you're thinking did he shoot
six shots
or only five oh I'm sorry no
it's
different no I'm going on
record as Pro
AOC I think she could do things
that I
like listen here's I have some
things to
say about this first of all what
happened to the actual green
New Deal
black-on-white her own paper
says we're
going to print the money
I hope we're gonna print the
money for
this green New Deal which we
only have
12 years to do really only ten
before we
die children know it that you
ask any
child particularly if they just
got into
college was happening with with
climate
change we're gonna die
so let's just bear that in mind
children
believe this she believes this
I think I
think so she said it was going
to be
done by printing up money just
the way
we did the bailout in 2008 so
she's
changed
this is the question pooper
should have
asked instead she brings up a
progressive tax system which
we've had
all my life and yes is even
today if you
make X amount you pay only so
much over
the first $25,000 50,000
and you get into the tippy-top
as she
calls it at iffy job which is
Scott
Adams would say persuasive gets
into the
tippy-top
and that's where you may wind
up paying
more and I went back and I
looked
throughout the 50s the 60s and
the 70s
up until 1981 the tippy top tax
rate in
United States was over 70%
Tesla it was
it's not it's not crazy but go
back into
that era and the tippy top top
tax rate
at 71 percent did exist but
there were a
million ways to lower your tax
liability
through all kinds of R&D deals
and
there's certain kinds of
investments and
write-offs this way and
write-offs that
way and very few people that
made that
kind of money
they made the 10 million plus a
year
ever paid those tax rates
because they
had been putting the money here
and
putting the money there these
were
called the loopholes that were
closed
and once they started closing
the
loopholes and they had to start
lowering
the tax rates because it was a
it was a
one to one ratio so this is
really
misconstrued this is a specious
commentary that she's making
it's
bullshit that may be true I'd
the only
thing I'm saying is it's not
crazy to
have that upper tax rate in a
progressive system and people
shouldn't
immediately be uh however a more
importantly if that's all it
would take
to get the green New Deal going
to save
our lives
I expect every person who is a
democratic voter or a democratic
operative or politician to
agree to this
idea to save the world
I bet we won't but it's not
it's I'd
like people like Nancy Pelosi
and the
real movers and shakers in the
party buy
into any of the we're all gonna
die
nonsense no but of course but
that's how
I can make my point if they
don't buy
into it if they don't say hey
you know
okay make it 60% make it an
even 50 what
whatever you gonna do that's
the way we
typically do things with
raising money
if it truly is the most
important thing
in the world because we're all
going to
die then they should all be
pushing for
it they won't because it's not
true
we're not going to die my point
is about
the science of climate change
and the
hood that's been pulled over
everybody's
eyes
so how'd everybody know but the
people
who are advocating for those
suckers the
people who are advocating for
the we're
all gonna die climate change
don't deny
Sciences in they should be all
in on at
least this idea I agree and I
think a
lot of them are we'll see I bet
not a
single one of them supports
this idea
not a single one a single one
of who is
at Congress members yes the
Democrats
who say we're going to die from
climate
change them yes oh well maybe
by the way
this think there's more than a
single I
think there's a few this was all
predicted the newbies that just
came in
did you see the the article
that now you
know the orbit of the the earth
is
changing slightly and therefore
and
that's not therefore climate
change you
know it it may end by itself or
not oh
they're looking for the out to
look for
the exit strategy for the
bullish listen
so this this actually appeared
in 1961
November 17th in an episode of
The
Twilight Zone
the word that mrs. Bronson is
unable to
put into the hot still sudden
air is
doomed because the people
you've just
seen have been handed a death
sentence
one month ago the earth
suddenly changed
its elliptical orbit and in
doing so
began to follow a path which
gradually
moment by moment day by day
took it
closer to the Sun
and all of man's little devices
to stir
up the air and now no longer
luxuries
they happen to be pitiful and
panicky
keys to survival the time is 5
minutes
to 12 midnight there is no more
darkness
the place is New York City and
this is
the eve of the end because even
at
midnight it's High Noon
the hottest day in history and
you're
about to spend it in the
twilight zone
so that's the setup but in the
show
itself this is what happens
there was a
scientist on the radio this
morning he
was trying to explain what
happened how
the earth had changed its orbit
and was
starting to move away from the
Sun and
that was in 1 2 or maybe 3
weeks at the
most
there wouldn't be any more Sun
we'd all
freeze nothing ever changes
remember
that episode it's pretty funny
you
remember oh that's great let's
go back
to 1988 for the upcoming
election hold
on 1988 hello John oh yeah I
was having
trouble with my Segway obvious
yes yes
it ran off a hill gore is
running he's
one of the main candidates this
is the
the election against the George
HW Bush
the first time he after right
after
Reagan's eight years and so we
have a
few things here including let's
just
play these two gore clips from
1988 just
pre-election so just before the
election
when he was one of the five
candidates
Dukakis won this thing he
didn't but he
had a few things to say that
he's kind
of stuck with but I see that
he's kind
of edited down his complaints
let's
start with gore free on the
other five
candidates in the race and
later in the
campaign I'll be doing the same
thing on
on domestication it's a cool
way to
different you've heard these
guys and we
all have for about six months
you know
what you believe for the last
ten years
so where do you think the
differences
are gonna be education social
well I
think there gonna be some
differences
in education in in in this in
Environmental Protection and in
a number
of other issue areas I'm the
only
candidate to talking about the
need for
a completely new approach to
environmental protection as an
example
I'm chairman of the largest
environmental protection group
in the
Congress I chaired the first
hearings
ever held on the problem of
hazardous
chemical waste and pollution of
groundwater some ten years ago
I was one
of the principal authors of the
Superfund law I've been active
in issues
from clean air and clean water
to
protection of the upper
atmosphere and
the rain forests and ocean
pollution
management of public lands and
the
positions I've articulated I'll
give you
an example did you see at any
point
mentioned that he invented the
internet
the internet later oh when I
announced
my candidacy I talked about the
threat
to the ozone layer among many
many other
issues and some of the other
campaigns
said sort of hooted at that and
said
this is really a kind of an
unusual
issue that the voters will not
respond
to I find a tremendous response
from the
voters I find Americans all
over this
country actively concerned
about the
impact of our civilization on
the global
environment and the next
president must
not only understand that impact
but must
be prepared to offer strong
innovative
leadership nationally and
internationally to stop that
damage the
recent treaty incidentally on
the ozone
depletion accomplishes a 35%
reduction
in in in the production of these
chemicals called
chlorofluorocarbons or
CFCs and yet the
evidence shows that there must
be an 85%
reduction just to stabilize the
amount
of damage being done in other
words
under this treaty the damage
will not
only continue it will
accelerate fairly
dramatically throughout the
balance of
this century that's
unacceptable now
there may be some market
developments
that have helped us deal with
the
problem in the treaty may
accelerate
those market trends
well this is his whole thesis
word for
been running for anything is to
scare
the crap out of the public have
these
assertions like we would like
by the
year 2000 apparently according
to him
there were the whole was gonna
get
bigger when it got smaller and
all this
sort of thing but the next one
which is
the second clip has an
assertion with an
actual time and date no date
that it
should be noted yes okay yeah
because
it's it's he says it and I do
the
calculation and I didn't happen
but but
there are many other challenges
climate
change is an issue that again
wow this
is is out in front of the
domestic
consensus on what the agenda of
the next
president ought to be but the
next
president needs to provide
leadership
there as well destruction of the
rainforests we're losing
rainforests in
the world today at at the rate
of one
Tennessee's worth every year an
amount
of land equivalent to the size
of the
state of Tennessee every single
year by
the year 2010 it'll all be gone
it's
gone gone it's gone is it gone
did you check yeah I did she's
gone it's
not gone mine looks as if
there's not
even close to being gone just
they you
can look at you know rain
forests and
the Wikipedian you can see them
all
they're still there it's just
not done
but going to him it's not ever
gonna be
gone by 2010 alright let's come
back a
couple of things we've talked
about that
are coming that are coming true
yes that are panning out a
while back we
identified that the excessive
use of
cuss words amongst leftist
liberals
Democrats was increasing
and this increased signal
something to
me it signaled a severe
frustration and
I said it's only going to get
worse
you're hearing it on podcast
everywhere
people who would never use any
kind of
profanity are using the f-word
excessively now I have
Tourette's so you
got to give me a little slack
you
actually give you some you use
the S
word today you rarely even do
that now
they're saying that was the BS
word I'm
not even saying that you're a
leftist
but it came it came true I mean
it is
they are this is a break in the
psychology in the psyche of
people who
typically are left but who hate
Trump
people love you you one bullies
don't
win baby they talk because
we're gonna
go in there and impeach the
motherfucker
this is just getting worse this
was an
example but I think a lot of it
has to
do with education to people
that are
typical truck drivers who
wouldn't
really know this woman's not a
truck
driver you Larry that's big
enough to
handle just not using F what
this
woman's not a truck driver and
by the
way truck drivers aren't stupid
they
have vocabulary no but they
don't date a
lot of truck drivers getting
just a
milieu I'm sorry okay he was
all right
that's more fair yes the milieu
of truck
have certain working classes is
involves
a lot of cussing the this woman
to me is
this is a important especially
the way
it was handled this is an
important
situation because this can't be
tolerated by Nancy Pelosi
exactly she
and if she can't control these
new
people that are coming in there
she's
gonna have to take him one by
one she's
gonna have a mess on her hands
I feel a
dirt I'm sorry I think I think
it's
already done they brought in
all the
diversity and that's the mess
yet diversity is the mess yeah
whether
Nancy can organize it at her
age not to
be an ageist an already
insulted our
truck drivers I don't think she
can do
it I think the whole Democrat
party is
gonna fall apart it's gonna be
it's
gonna be an embarrassment as
the those
key sorts of things that that
woman did
she's the new she's a Muslim by
the way
mm-hmm
from Michigan I think she's the
Michigan
woman Shh that is going to
really turn
off the American public insofar
as
Democrats are concerned I agree
you're
right I think it is signaling
something
that's a much bigger problem
totally
agree
I have a clip well here it is
this is
diversity and Pelosi regains
gavel this
up from Democracy Now that
discusses a
little bit of this incoming
members of
the hundred sixteenth Congress
made
history Thursday is the most
diverse
group of lawmakers ever sworn
in over a
hundred women now serve in the
house
along with the most LGBTQ black
and
Latino members in history
meanwhile
Democratic Congress member
Nancy Pelosi
of California was officially
elected
Speaker of the House again
regaining the
gavel she lost after the 2010
midterm
elections brought eight years of
Republican control to the house
nation
is an historic moment two
months ago the
American people spoke and
demanded a new
dawn upon the beauty of our
Constitution
our system of checks and
balances that
protects our democracy
remembering that the
legislative branch
is article 1 the first branch of
government co-equal to the
presidency 15
Democrats including some
freshman
lawmakers defected against
Pelosi
speakership either voting for an
alternative candidate or simply
voting
present as a first order of
business
house Speaker Pelosi and House
Democratic leaders sought to
end the
partial government shutdown
passing a
package of spending bills that
would
reopen the federal government
without
meeting Trump's demand for five
billion
dollars for expanding the wall
on the
us-mexico border
so Pelosi's got this she has
some
defectors which is she punished
those 15
but she's also gonna punish the
few that
threatened to not vote for it
but did
they voted for anyway but
they're
sterile marked all beyond the
you know
the barbers committee for sewage
treatment and marked and these
were some
of the words you know farm
animals she
was that she was also kind of
washing
her words her bitch like I
think she's
got denture sound like she does
thank
you for your refit befitting yes
retooling maybe I got a double
up on you
listen to tell me if you can
spot the
aim the ami hey this is
actually a
double flub okay see if you can
spot
both of them this is about the
Google
story where you know Google
apparently
is dodging taxes big shocker no
but
listen the Seabees find the two
double
flubs and they're not
necessarily
mispronouncing things it's what
she says
newly revealed tax filings show
Google
shifted 23 billion dollars to
accounts
in Bermuda in 2017 as part of a
complex
tax avoidance scheme that saved
the tech
giant billions of dollars in
revenue the
scheme involved funneling money
through
Google Ireland holdings and a
Dutch
shell company based in Bermuda
where
corporations pay no income tax
the
scheme known as the double
Irish Dutch
sandwich is legal although
Ireland's
government has said it will
close a
loophole allowing the
arrangement in
2020 okay first of all is the
double
dutch is never a double Irish
that's
just stupidity and I think she
also said
it would save the millions in
revenue
which is not yes it was mistake
number
one yeah it's not true billions
in taxes
yes but not on revenues
revenues or
whatever we revenues our
revenues it
doesn't save you any revenue
there's a
Dutch just that wrong the Dutch
just
called they want their their
other part
back don't play the second one
in there
and I forget oh really besides
that
there's one o newly revealed
tax filings
show Google shifted 23 billion
dollars
to accounts and
muda in 2017 as part of a
complex tax
avoidance scheme that saved the
tech
giant billions of dollars in
revenue the
scheme involved funneling money
through
Google Ireland holdings and a
Dutch
shell company based in Bermuda
where
corporations pay no income tax
the
scheme known as the double
Irish Dutch
sandwich is legal although
Ireland's
government has said it will
close a
loophole allowing the
arrangement in
2020 allowing the arrangement
yeah weird now I just can't
lift out the
second one okay anyway I have
something
much I have something much more
important from the future we
are huh of
course wherever Ebola shows up
we always
expect the US military to
follow now you
wouldn't know it from the
American news
or if you dare I say even any
news in
the Western in the Western
world now but
if we go to Africa today the
United
States has deployed so just to
Kabul on
in anticipation of possible
violent
demonstrations that Democratic
Republic
of Congo after its presidential
election
u.s. president Donald Trump told
Congress on Friday the first
batch of
about 80 military personnel
arrived in
Gabon on Wednesday their
mission will be
to protect US citizens and
diplomatic
facilities should avail as
break out in
DLCs capital Kinshasa Trump said
additional forces may be
deployed to
Gabon
if necessary no notice no
mention of
Ebola is completely off the map
we don't
care we got what we needed a we
get them
in one way or the other troops
in the
DRC
just a matter of time but how'd
you get
dead that was a good clip oh it
well
Reuters actually reported on it
they did
do a news release about the US
troops
being deployed but it wasn't it
was not
mention I need I was looking
for a clip
and this is all I could find I
found a
million clips with some shit
music and
titles you know those those are
the
worst
I'll go assemble pieces of crap
you're
like oh I got a cliff no I
don't so yeah
and then I just went back to
the well
off the riccati fact at the
mainstream
news media including the CNN
and MSNBC s
of the world spent all this
time about
this briefing the definition of
briefing
instead of some idealist
stories like
this just slide who cares
that's why
we're going to be great this
year
what you think it's gonna get
worse oh
the the the mainstream news CNN
MSNBC
Fox all three of them are going
to do
20/20 all day all night long it
will be
nothing else that it's decided
that
they're doing it it's like the
mh17 it's
they're just gonna go it's only
you know
it's only two years they don't
care you
might be right I'd hate to see
it
because the public doesn't care
about
20/20 they won't care about
20/20 until
2020 what you're seeing is a
total
withdrawal you're seeing
withdrawal
people just not interested
anymore
they're turning off the
television it's
just it's only going to go
downhill to
predict this one easy so you
know now
for us we're just gonna
deconstruct
other new sources you know
still if you
go to RTE or Sky News you get
different
things at least get something
from a
different country that seems to
be
casually looking at CBC this
week we
need to take a break though
before we go
into another another segment
okay but
we'll be doing CBC News after I
thank
you for your courage and say in
the
morning to you John
in the morning to you mr. Adam
curry
also in the morning to all the
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Darren O'Neill he brought us
the artwork
the album artwork for episode
1100 this
was the flash beat up which we
need to
hear about and he had just a
nice piece
of the tachometer or
speedometer it had
33 is the only indicator and
1100 on
what would maybe be the
odometer it was
just a nice piece particularly
because
it was our 1100 episode and we
thank
Darren and everyone who
submitted
artwork and continued to do as
a part of
our value for value system
where you
give back the value that you
get out of
it and for a lot of people they
put in
their artistry and we
appreciate what
they do no agenda art generate
calm thank you again Darren
O'Neill
we have a funny situation here
that I'd
not absolute that I haven't
straightened
it out oh but there's there's a
Sir
Scott and there's a serve
Richard okay
and and I don't believe that
this is
this may or may not be the same
person
but neither one of them wants
to be
mentioned to set their name so
Scott or
Sir Richard allegiances for
Richard on
the note
and that both of the numbers
were a
one-two-three four-five-six
well I don't see you sir Scott
on the
list well sir Scott someone
I've been
going back and forth with
because of
this this okay so I've got you
sound
throttling what you sound
troubled I am
troubled the
cuz I have not be able to
figure out why
let me go get the know hold on
a second
okay play a little rambling
scroll male
music okay rambling
squirrelmail music I
don't know how to do that man I
need to
make that easier to find ya
here we go
will he find it he's looking
for the
donation now run it over to the
printer
back already
I gotta do the whole song took
you
longer to get it then it took
me to get
this note okay so this donation
is to
say thank you for the fine
product you
deliver twice a week for myself
as some
simple jobs karma the original
pelosi
no-trump Sir Richard and it's
one two
three four five six yet
Scott Scott sir Scott head sent
in one
two three four five six
and it was its it can only
match the
same exact check but
I really have no idea what
you're
talking here's the real problem
I'm
gonna have the fuck to do some
more
emailing oh I see okay now
thank you
what is happening I get it now
sir Scott who is a sir wanted
to be
called Sir Richard initially
but then
when we went back forth of the
email
because this check was a week
late oh he
forgot about that part because
he wanted
to be super anonymous so he
became now
he's two guys that's pretty
anonymous
yeah okay okay I got it cuz
it's the
same that I'm saying that it's
the same
guy Scott and Richard because
they're
both in Louisville Kentucky you
weren't
given you weren't listening to
you are
listening to Rihanna again were
you know
I should have been maybe that's
the
problem
shows a box for me but anyway
let's go
on and then we want to thank
sir Scott
Richard for his Scott a Richard
it's a
good name
show business name he just
wanted a job
Nancy jobs jobs jobs jobs and
jobs let's
vote job karma okay well at
least we
figured it out yeah sure
all right so we onward but
that's it
that's our executive producer
oh and luckily he came in at
all well
but it's nice we appreciate
that sir
Scott Richard thing and such
sure
Richard Scott and for Richard
sky what a
great name Sir Richard Scott
and such
that's his new name Sir Richard
Scott
and yes Robert Warner in
Chicago two
three five three five and I
look for a
note no no I don't have one
either
Jim Watts - 33 33 this is a
test of the
no agenda karma system world
cup lose
racing karma needed for human
resource
number and okay normally we do
not do
sports
Carmelita karmas but since it's
a
relative it's a human resource
number
one
you give it a shot so this is
so Jim's
human resource number one is a
World Cup
luge racer yeah top that any
other
podcast is what I mean who else
has
World Cup lose racers
participating in
our program no zero is that
falls under
the jobs banner dealer's choice
karma
please do you think we should
make that
a jobs karma I think it is a I
think I
think we're gonna go for the
job karma
for human resource number one
let's give
it a shot jobs jobs jobs and
jobs let's
vote for job
karma all right well let us
know how
that goes Jim very curious now
again
this is not something we
encourage and I
think for relatives and in
looking at it
from the jobs perspective I do
think
it's it's possible that that
this is on
the up-and-up you do think I do
think
further humiliating me oh come
on it's
just a show
ah great okay Jay Sir Geoffrey
meter now
this is another note no note I
got a
Jeffrey guy with this with his
accounting but it's not this
Jeffrey
this is Jeffrey do fields let
me look up
fields I'm not gonna do that
whole
squirrel mail I have nothing
from mr.
fields mr. field WC Fields no I
have
nothing from him I have Ellison
fields
Anthony Tom no no I get not
even close
so we got nothing but so that's
we got
him as an associate executive
producer
with $200 let's combine our
missing
Robert Warner and Jeffrey
fields and
give them a joint Karma did you
got it
you've got Karma pretty much
okay all
right well this is our value
for value
system and the way and we make
it work
in a number of ways first of
all is we
know how the the network cannot
be
monetized ads doesn't work
that's Laura
Ingram how it works having ads
if you
want to say whatever you want
to say
yeah
her radio show she really got
kicked off
because of advertiser pressure
yeah I
think she's on one of the
networks that
you can't monetize but she was
on one of
them well know that if that is a
monetized network because
that's a
closed loop yeah well you know
to get
kicked off yeah that's exactly
it the
Internet is what I like about
this is
what I enjoy about D I I kind
of enjoy
watching these these happens
these
things happening because it's
like oh
yeah good support from your you
know you
you've been there you've been
making the
network money because they're
not
putting you up for free and
people like
your show some people I guess I
don't
know I've always found it
should it be
not quite as I like your TV
shows better
but she's making money for me
this is
just a little cry little
there's one
little complaints a couple of
the
advertisers bailout and you
take her out
you throw her out in the baby
with the
bathwater
you just get boost give or kick
around
on her but she bouncing on her
on her
butt right at the studios I
know what
kind of operations are these my
name is
you can operate for their people
now of course why would they
they're
money-making operations oh no
way I
do it either she'd be gone in a
heartbeat if I was running the
place
well you're a heartless no
that's your
job as a corporation oh it's
not yes it
is
it doesn't have to be K all
righty then
how many corporations have you
run
I've actually run a couple but
they're
all like me and man me me as I
reviewed
I've run a public company you
don't care
I didn't like the job very much
I'll be
honest but you don't care it's
just you
can't are plenty of CEOs of big
corporations who do care okay I
know in
the information business in the
you got
the platform from PC Magazine
over one
article in your 35 year history
would
that I agree with I know their
word era
douchebags for doing that but
but let me
give you an example of how the
newspapers used to be run you
start
attacking some guy and
threatening the
newspaper the disfavored go
after it's
not an it's not a newspaper
this is an
information outlet and it could
go after
the advertisers that's what
Limbaugh has
been doing every time somebody
threatens
to pull advertiser from
Limbaugh he
tells us his census ditto heads
out to
make their lives miserable
that's what
you do there's a difference
between Rush
Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham but
here's
what I wanted to point out
besides all
that is that we we recognized
early on
the only way to pull this model
off is
to open up two things one
donation
amounts make them people can
personalize
them and also it's the value you
determine it's like if if we're
worst
five bucks worth 5 bucks fine
this is
perfect doesn't matter so we
left that
open we didn't we didn't say
you have to
do this or have to do that
whatever you
think is valuable second thing
we do
everything ourselves there
isn't you
cannot have producers that you
that you
hire and put on a payroll
because it
just there's not enough money
in in the
value Network I don't think it
is for
any system really and I'm
always stunned
by the podcasts that have maybe
three
people taking part and credit a
credit
roll guy on the board a
producer a
Booker I mean they maybe have
six seven
people working there and it's
like that
is like five or six too many so
the
first one of the first things
we did is
or early on as we said our
audience are
not listener
they're not slubs just sitting
around
they know stuff we figured it
out pretty
quickly as we got every
three-letter
agency cherlene in in the
United States
was sending us information like
oh we
listened to you guys about the
CDC I
think was the first like we're
laughing
about you guys but you're more
right
than you're wrong and here's
what we
think about X Y & Z so we said
these are
our real producers and the
production
work they do is the value that
it's
returning the value they get
from the
show they don't have to support
us
financially
so that worked very well we
also that
I've made incessant that this
is the OCD
thing of mine is to keep it all
contained hope all production
that we
can just do it ourselves
and I see these networks I did
I sing I
think I sent you this article
this is
the wsd G this is the outfit
that builds
Studios they yeah used to be
exclusively
recording studios do a lot of
broadcast
studios yeah and they did the
the gimlet
media yeah yeah yeah in 20,000
square
foot Brooklyn facility
dedicated there's
your overhead dedicating 2,700
square
feet to one studio and they
have they
got delet system so they can
you know
copy edits back and forth
between their
12 podcast studios including a
full
music product recording studio
these
guys are insane today oh I wish
they
would just say hey how did that
work out
when you guys did it what
didn't you
can't do this it doesn't work
that way
anymore oh my goodness I put
that in the
show no she got a seat the
facility in
my apartment donation amounts a
very so
much because there's you know
people can
choose their own we have to
remember
that we kind of picked up it
was it was
actually again in the early
days but it
was the producers that could
come up
with these crazy numbers you
know you
know they would have some
number then we
spend may have to show decoding
what is
this
number meaning and I guess you
know it's
that's a square root it became
a thing
yeah I became a thing and if
you make it
a Fibonacci I mean what mm-hmm
that's
important to people so don't be
so
stringent anyway what I'm
saying is for
those who have been with us for
eleven
years we've been with us for
eleven
minutes thank you you clearly
understand
how it works and we really
appreciate
the value you return to us cuz
we can
keep doing it this way and
we're not
splitting not spit on 2700
square foot
studios in a 20,000 square foot
Brooklyn
facility and that's all VC
money they're
not making enough to sister's
throwing
money away theses are idiots I
wish I
wish if someone lives in
Brooklyn can
you just be on the standby
because when
they fold I want you to be able
to go in
and put your stickers on the
equipment
we could use some of that we
wouldn't
mind buying some of that I'll
be an OSU
so you use the equipment and in
the
meantime you can also consider
supporting us for our next show
in which
I'll probably have is the
Golden Globes
tonight it was I think is to
not excuse
tonight someone's tonight well
have a
report on Globes are tonight
yes sure
we'll have a report please
support us at
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you know
all about the value for value
model go
up there propagate this
information our
formula is this we go out we
hit people
in the mouth
while on the subject of the
Golden
Globes clip because everybody's
now you
know they've changed the way
these shows
are because the women just
don't get up
to look pretty they have to
make a
statement so they read this is
the clip
is politicizing the awards
power in the
form of fashion okay and
generations
that is at the forefront of
Milan I have
two of these clips play that
play the
CBC clip first Hollywood's
awards season
has arrived beginning Sunday
with the
Golden Globes the stars will be
there
steps in on the red carpet and
with much
of the world watching these
sorts of
things are always an
opportunity for
fashionable drama except now the
question you're more likely to
hear
perhaps may not be who are you
wearing
but why are you wearing that the
Hollywood red carpet seems to
have
become the fabric of a very
political
message no first there were the
black
dresses at last year's Golden
Globes to
show solidarity with sexual
harassment
and assault survivors then the
orange
pins at the Oscars to protest
gun
violence and a few months ago
at the
Emmys Jennifer Lewis's Nike
outfit in
support of Colin Kaepernick
lately red
carpets have been less about
fashion
statements and more about
political ones
this is a new form of currency
is
activism and Carla Welch is at
the
center of it in between
celebrity
fittings here at her la studio
for
clients like Sarah Paulson and
Elisabeth
Moss the Canadian stylist posts
social
media messages on immigration
voting and
indigenous issues she dressed
actor
Tracee Ellis Ross in an array
of black
designers at the American Music
Awards
and worked behind the scenes to
support
the times up movement Welch has
become
one of the most sought-after
stylists
among Hollywood's elite not
despite her
views but because of them yeah
starts to
make you sick yes remember when
the
Dixie Chicks and Michael Moore
told
George Bush he was an a-hole
and the
left one
oh you can't do that
that was in my lifetime yeah
that's
changed quite a bit yeah now
that your
MF and yes MF or her yes MF for
yeh so
that no they've gone out of off
the deep
end so let's finish this up
there's
parts part two and generations
that is
at the forefront of breaking
the mold
politically active 18 year old
actress
Yara Shahidi
wore a skirt covered with the
face of
African American activist
Angela Davis
to a high-profile event in April
stranger things started on
their own
were the names of parkland
shooting
victims on the back of her
shirt Kids
Choice Awards the rise in
social media
has allowed celebrities to be a
little
bit more open about who they
truly are
that the election has made a
lot of
people feel like look I'm not
willing to
just be quiet
even something also recognize
the power
of speaking up
fourteen-year-old Brown
credited Calvin
Klein for the design of her
shirt to her
18 million Instagram followers
and
chahee DS Angela Davis skirt
was made by
product I think that the days
of just
being like oh I look pretty in
a dress
which I love we love
celebrating fashion
we love wearing beautiful
clothes but
they're coming a little bit to
a close
and I think it's a good thing
that
there's different ways of using
power
power in the form of fashion
why do you do this to me why
this to me
enough I do it because I know
it makes
you as sick as it makes me well
you
listen to the clip and I said
oh my god
I'm getting sick I've got to
put this on
the show cuz i Adam deserves to
be just
this sick well you're gonna
regret it
with what I have for you next
then this
is we're gonna stay with award
shows the
Kevin Hart drama now instead of
talking
about you know elections in the
Congo
and sending troops there which
i think
isn't that kind of a thing
these days
where we have or don't have
troops now
don't report on that now let's
get into
Kevin Hart's tweets and this
was this
was kind of it I don't think we
even
talked about it's a little
issue that
originally managed to avoid
yeah we did
but then Ellen invited Kevin
Hart on as
a to create a bridge between
Kevin Hart
and the Academy so he can host
the
Academy Awards again well let's
listen
let me help a little bit by
backing this
up
Kevin Hart was initially
announced by
the Academy Awards group to
host the
show and then somebody came up
with so
he apparently had some he's
gonna decide
anti-gay tweets from some not
know 10
years ago around the time of
his special
where he had similar jokes in
the
special yeah it was pretty much
just
jokes as tweets and so somebody
brought
this up is it all by god this is
terrible in heartwood before it
even
became a scandal quit he said
I'm not
gonna do the show yes he said
I've
already apologized for those
tweets and
I'm not gonna do it again just
to be
able to host the show otherwise
it'll
keep coming back I think it was
right
about that
yes and then Ellen wanted to
build the
bridge and I didn't
yes go ahead I believe I do
believe I do
believe that somebody there's
something
they can't get a hose for the
ABC it's
ABC Ellen's on ABC hello yeah
hello with
ABC ABC said you got a patch
this up
Ellen make it happen because we
won't
have any ratings every year
this show
comes out the ratings go down
we look
like doofuses we've got to get
this guy
he's at least entertaining is
maybe he
could pull it together because
we've had
good luck in the past
you know with other black guy
with other
black hosts yeah and comedian
hosts and
this guy's the top of his game
as a
comic you got it get him I
could we
can't nobody else to do it we
can't get
anyone that we want
so this was a something of a
scam
and was it not who was that the
Ellen
show that had the had the Vegas
Massacre
security guard on
yeah which was something of a
scam
something of a scam because she
has
deals with the she's got slot
machines
and everything was at The Ellen
Show I
think it was a lunch oh yes it
was
because there's there is a slot
machine
called the Ellen yes so yeah so
she is
all in on the corporate
structure and
she is doing whatever she wants
or
there's a big big business and
and I've
learned a lot about Ellen I
watched her
special on Netflix and that was
quite
good and she's got an
interesting
background I've learned some
things I
didn't know about her career
she's a San
Francisco comic and
oh so she's clearly all in with
the
system and I think she made a
big
mistake by trying to patch over
the
homophobic nature of Kevin
Hart's past
that's how it's categorized I
don't
think he's a homophobe I think
he's just
making jokes and ten years ago
you could
make different jokes I think
she's going
to she and I or do you see
evidence of
it she's being excoriated by the
community which i don't believe
exists
but okay there's supposed to be
some
LGBTQ or to be precise LGBTQIA
APK
community and this came true
just the
other night as Don Lemon
the overnight sensation on CNN
schooled
Kevin Hart and more and he did
this in a
10-minute soliloquy ten minutes
of
validly leave this guy on the
ten
minutes of valuable overnight
airtime so
I brought it just by cutting
out the
pauses which I did this morning
it was
four minutes
that's how long his pauses were
then I cut it down almost in
half again
to be able to share on the show
so I'm
saying right off the bat it is
not a
true representation of what he
said
because of all
the very
long pauses yeah but I Matic
pause but I
learned a lot about the black
community
and I learned a lot about
community I
just I'm using don LeMans words
the
black community and the LGBT
community
and it is an eye-opener Kevin if
anything this is the time to
hear other
people out to understand why
they might
have been offended and I don't
see any
meaningful outreach to the LGBT
community and now you want the
conversation to end but many of
us
really need to keep the
conversation
going
it's life or death and someone
like a
Kevin Hart with one of the just
you know
life or death now we're talking
about a
comedian and the Oscars life or
death
biggest megaphones in the war
can be a
leader
the ultimate change agent can
help
change homophobia in the black
community
okay this is where I wouldn't
homophobia
in the black community you're
telling me
that that people of a different
color
are different this does not sit
well
with me Don something Kevin's
old
Twitter jokes addressed but in
the wrong
way
so take the tweet where he said
that he
would break a doll a doll house
over his
son's head if he found him
playing with
it
he said that's gay by the way
if you'd
look at this is so egregiously
shitty of
Don Lemon to do he takes a
tweet that is
a joke with a punchline and he
removes
the punchline and says oh yeah
if you
were gay
you know I say he doesn't
literally read
the tweet which is a joke not
of maybe
funny one but he pulls it apart
and
makes it sound like he would
hit the kid
over literally hit the kid in
the
doghouse if he was because it's
gay that
was a joke to Kevin
but the truth is that is a
reality for
many little boys in the United
States
somewhere a black dad is
beating his
black son okay now you've got my
attention Don Lemon he's
talking about
violence in black not unless a
community
says it all the time he's
saying black
Americans beat their children
the same
way it happened to my friend
oscar-nominated director Lee
Daniels who
through his TV show Empire
portrayed how
as a little boy his dad threw
him in a
trash can for wearing heels and
now
somehow we've magically
transformed from
being gay to wearing heels and
I don't
think it's a prerequisite that
you are
gay as a child that you wear
heels but
okay Don I'll take your word
for it took
him out of the house and threw
them in
the trash cans that's a reality
for a
lot of little boys those views
of the
LGBT people within the black
community
have consequences so think of
this okay
we're about faculties a news
organization the Center for
American
Progress says at 40 we're did
you hear
that
we're a fact based organization
let me
just get some facts for unity
have
consequences so think of this
okay we're
about facts here this is a news
organization the Center for
American
Progress says that 44% of
homeless gay
youth are black that's huge
remember black people only make
up 12%
of the US population
I'd like how he uses this
statistic
because when it's about
violence let's
just take one against police
officers
getting killed or if it's about
crime
when someone says hey man the
black
population in America is only
12% yet
they're responsible for more X
Y Z then
you're a horrible bigot and an
a-hole
and you can't say these things
but now Don can use the
statistic this
guy hasn't even used the
statistic he
uses the the derivative which
is very
mislead stream homeless gay
youth are
black that's huge
remember black people only make
up 12%
of the u.s. population
those kids were likely kicked
out of
their homes or had to run away
because
of who they are and because of
how our
community treats them now when
he's
saying community he means black
community he's telling me that
black
Americans are more homophobic
than white
than any other color Americans
I find
this to be a real outrage and
we have to
talk about outreach Ellen a
trailblazer
and respected leader in the LGBT
community she really is she
almost lost
her entire career for coming
out for
being a trailblazer doing it
first
she gave Kevin the opportunity
to tell
his story on her show that is
an olive
branch if I have ever seen one
she says
that she forgives Kevin and
thinks that
he should host the Oscars but
honestly
Ellen doesn't speak for the
whole
community Oh Oh big mistake
Ellen you
don't speak for the whole
community and
this is where DOM is finally
going to
tell us that there is no such
thing as a
community and he's full of crap
we need
to speak up for the young black
people
especially young black men kids
in the
LGBTQ community I'm a gay black
man I
don't know what it's like to be
a white
lesbian what what aren't you in
the same
community you're telling me
that you're
in the same community as a
black gay man
and you don't understand what
it's like
to be a lesbian white woman
what kind of
a community is that there's
much black
men kids in the LGBT community
I'm a gay
black man I don't know what
it's like to
be a white lesbian I don't know
if
someone called me and they had
an issue
whose - hey Don you don't know
what it's
like to be a lesbian you don't
know what
it's like to be a white man you
don't
know what it's like to be a
woman I
would listen to them so I'm
saying these
issues need to be addressed
especially
when it comes to black youth in
our
country because they need to
know
righteous oh yeah he's the kid
he's the
king of the gays now
that's how he's portraying
himself in
the king of the community and
it's okay
to be who they are really in the
african-american community I'm
sorry
he's the king of the blacks now
we have
to stop low-key co-signing
homophobia it
is not cool
so how man is this true is this
true
that it goes something deeper
than skin
colour that or that it is just
black
black Americans are more
homophobic than
the rest is that what he's
saying
that's what a me might be
saying is what
it sounds like to me I'd say so
it
sounds like what he's saying
but I don't
know how you can make that
assertion he
doesn't even know how a white
lesbian
thinks how did you know how a
white
anybody else thinks so how can
he make
that that generalization he's
doing no
this is the 20 minute 20
seconds left
and we won't tolerate jokes
that tell
those youth otherwise oh so we
can't
have jokes now because
apologizing and
moving on does not make the
world a
better place for people who are
gay or
people who are transgender
being an ally
does so Kevin no one is against
you no
one said that you should be
fired or any
of that what they want for you
is to
bring light to this to be an
ally so it
is your chance right now to do
the right
thing to change minds and
possibly save
lives okay Don thanks for
counting on a
comedian to save lives but why
is it
that all I hear is it's white
alt-right
people who hate gays that's all
I hear
and here's Don Lemon in ten
minutes
saying that it's it's worse
with blacks
I have no answer for all of
this but it
just worked me apparently
she's generalizing a whole
bunch of
things here and that is not
cool Don
Lemon that is not cool
generalize
well they had Chris Rock on as
the host
twice in a row cuz he liked him
yeah I
don't know why they just don't
bring him
back no I you know I listen to
the don't
do we talked about this last
time I
listen to the louis c.k one of
his
recent stand-ups and i got to
tell you
something broke he's nothing he
says is
funny it's a bit societal yes
it's
broken well is that here's a
good
example
you can find one of these old
thousand
funniest jokes but I'm not
talking about
buying one off the shelf at a
bookstore
I'm talking about going to a
used
bookstore and buying the
thousand
funniest jokes or any of the
Bennett
Cerf books where he collects
all these
jokes mm-hmm and these are all
pretty
I'm talking about once printed
in the
50s and 60s pull those books
off the
shelf and tell me if there's
any joke in
the book that's funny you won't
find one
no they're just not funny
anymore this
is not funny but I may have to
say was
it funny then it probably was I
know you
say hidden here's the now
here's another
problem I have I did take the
folklore
classes from Alan Dundas at the
University of California and a
lot of us
focused on jokes the problem I
have with
the thesis about these timing
the
timeliness of jokes is is the
folklorist
named legmen who did the
rationale of
the dirty joke volumes 1 & 2
rationale
of the dirty joke is dirty
jokes and
probably dirty jokes from the
starting
in the 1920s 30s 40s 50s that
these are
all old jokes because he goes
back to
the original joke that made this
particularly at aghori what it
was and
he has all these different
categories
joke categories you don't even
have
anymore like jokes about
American
Indians you can read many of
these jokes
and I would say mmm not all of
them but
at least half of them are still
funny
the dirty jokes
yeah the dirty jokes I can see
that
so I'm skint baffled by you
know what is
the non dirty societal jokes
that are
talking about new daily life
why is
louis c.k not funny anymore I
don't know
but he just wasn't I think it's
also you
know you can make comebacks in
America
we're great at it we everyone
gets at
least one comeback shot but
when you
when you come back you gotta
eat pie man
you gotta eat humble pie you
gotta just
refuse this you got to make fun
of
yourself he doesn't the first
thing out
of his mouth is I lost 35
million
dollars how is your day going
yeah
it's wrong and I think that
because I
that's your opening joke no no
good a
joke to get much sympathy from
me now
buddy now so he's screwing up
the great
American tradition of the of
the the
comeback kid and it's over now
for him
in my book
well he's you know the combat
can be
re-engineered as possible I'm
not from
the looks of it I'm not seeing
it
unfav to stay on this path of
being
adamant I mean his his attitude
is look
I talked about these things
that I've
been accused of in my material
it's not
like news to anybody that I'm
like a
masturbator uh and so he
resents the
fact has turned back on him yes
and
instead of seeing what was
wrong what's
wrong with this picture and
doing what
he's supposed to do which he
doesn't
know how to do that's probably
just
worked yeah which that makes it
most
comics who are act like they're
not
funny they're not gonna be
funny right
oh well
pay attention people this is
how to do
watch the Kevin Hart L&T what
came of it
it's nothing
who cares nothing's coming up
until I
get to do this show no I think
Ellen
wants to do the show I think
she's
Mayans wars before
yeah she would want to go back
that's
what I'm thinking but I don't
know more
importantly I really really
don't care
well you cared enough to do a
segment
that was different this dawn
LeMond are
you kidding me he's the king of
all
blacks and gays of the
communities all
right let's go back to some of
the clips
from 19 2009 these are now I
realize
what this bit is these are
clips from
2009 but the within the clip it
could be
something older like the 2000
or the
1988 Al Gore thing right and
for example
a good example of 2009 clip is
the
Taylor Swift clip which used to
be a
classic on the show when John
first
identified the talent other
than very
young Taylor Swift straited but
Taylor's
strive for perfection only
makes the
people who work with this young
star
respect her that much more
there's been times where I've
played a
solo and then just say well can
you kind
of do this and she'll sing me
and melody
I'll incorporate that and and
that's
very impressive for someone her
age
the problem that I was having
with the
solo is that it like it's
getting a
little noodley I'd rather it be
like
less notes that would be great
let's try
it again I remember this and I
remember
being very skeptical of your
adoration
of the young Taylor and how
wrong I was
yeah I saw this coming that
brought chop
slouched you were so right on
the money
can I bring us back - no don't
bring us
back we have one more okay and
that way
we don't have to go back again
oh good
this was our one of the early
this is
one of the early jobs karmas Oh
from
2009 where we had or we had the
Nancy
Pelosi thing incorporated with
an old
Dick Powell clip from one of
the old
Broadway musicals that was
turned into a
TV show or to a movie Dick
Powell March
rhythm to it yes I have I have
something
about a forgotten man
that's right is that is that
the clip
you edited back then yeah
that's that's
fantastic yeah I was doing good
work
yeah what happened this is I
have a
presentation a couple of clips
it's very
much for us now but I think in
looking
at tomorrow the brexit movie
will be
released in the UK it will be
aired on
channel 4 and it also I believe
it drops
in the US on HBO this is a
propaganda
piece it has big names in it
it's a
propaganda piece to tell
everyone that
the algos ripped them off in
the brexit
vote and the timing could not
be more
perfect because today again we
read that
everybody wants a do-over
something that
predicted from day one because
that's
the way it works and so it
looks like
they're just pushing and
pushing and
pushing
now comic strip bloggers he was
posting
in no agenda social calm which
is our
mastodons federated nude by the
way as
an aside I figured out what why
mastodons it has doesn't have
the
toxicity of Twitter it's it hit
me all
of a sudden okay and this is
something
that was not in the original
Twitter
design
the ability to retweet with a
comment so
you can boost a post on
mastodons but
you can't add a comment so you
know so a
true boost like on a retweet on
Twitter
which is a user demanded
function by the
way people were doing
originally know
the users demanded it they were
they
were using some people well
there was an
element of that but at the same
time the
users are going RT yep and then
cutting
and pasting another but
somebody else's
tweet like and Twitter felt
that was
giving the users too much
personal power
and so they came up with a
retweet
button and that actually made
things
worse because now you retweet
it shows
up as a tweet on your timeline
not a
reply replies don't usually
show up that
quickly it shows it shows your
followers
a retweet and you could add any
snarky
comment or whatever comment you
want and
that is what starts the
virality this
does not exist within the
mastodons
system and the the guy Gargan
whatever
in his name he says I'm not
putting it
in so I'm not putting it in
because that
is exactly what ruined Twitter
and I
think it's a very astute
observation I
think could be the artis with
comment is
to blend anyway so comic store
bloggers
in there and you know he's an
expert in
machine learning now so he
claims now
I've known this guy since early
early
early daily source code days I
mean way
before the show huge orig og
regional
Fuji and I have no idea what he
does
yeah I know he doesn't make
money on his
cartoons and it hit me all of a
sudden
he's my handler I think about
it he
always wants you like you don't
say
anything about Poland and it
gets all
pissed off but he stays 20
years almost
he stays I think yeah if you
look back
in his history I think he was
in the
tech end I think it was
probably some
kind of agent and then
Microsoft kicked
him out because he was you know
telling
the dude too many things to
their system
and I think whoever he works
for if it's
the Russians or whoever you know
Interpol I don't know who he
works
but he clearly got demoted and
they said
here do this podcast guy he's
your
target now cuz he stays doesn't
you know
he'll get pissed off about
something
it's always something in the
show quit
that we do he can't if we I am
his
target I am loud to quit he's
not
allowed to quit so anyway he
now he says
he's always silly as it sounds
it's not
that silly it's a possibility
really
could be he's he like the guy
that
couldn't handle the big job so
they gave
him me that guy Jason all right
so it
doesn't matter I like that he's
a part
he's a part of our experience
and I
appreciate him for that that's
some good
art he does some great arts
he's a great
contributor and sometimes he's
right but
he handler so he's posting
about though
this proves machine learning
but and I
kind of misunderstood what he
was saying
cuz he he posted a video of
Dominic
Cummings at some kind of
marketing
conference Dominic Cummings is
the Brad
parce qu'elle of brexit this is
the guy
who did all of the vote leave
campaign
and you know the Facebook
campaign and
he explains exactly how he did
it and we
like this stuff it's
interesting because
you know these days Facebook
and other
social networks are seen as
high it's
you know it's it's both a
fantastic tool
because you can get stuff done
you can
change the electrics thinking
at the same time the Russians
could use
it and change the electorate's
thinking
so is a very it's very it's
mysterious
and it's scary and what do we
do with it
and for us I think is just as
interesting as listening to how
the
digital campaign for Trump ran
as to
hear what he did and his
conclusions
this Dominic Cummings for the
brexit
campaign and I thought you'd be
interested - yeah okay so we'll
start
off with the messaging so we
worked out
essentially what I call out by
the way
the guy it has a bit of
Tourette's and
he's a stutterer so you know
it's after
that I cut well because
otherwise we'll
just be gone in this case we
got to
listen to him um so we worked
out
essentially what I call message
would be
and I had it was very simple had
arguably say five elements to
it the
first was the theme of take
back control
note the word Mac of triggering
loss
aversion the feeling that
something has
been lost and we can regain
what what
we've lost with which I think
was
interesting and it worked on
different
levels it wasn't it was the
most obvious
level Wars we got to take back
control
from Brussels but it was also
and I
think David Cameron and George
Osborne
didn't quite appreciate this it
was also
about taking back control from
of the
system itself
it was for a lot of people take
my
control made them think yeah
these are
the guys who screwed up the
economy you
drove off a cliff in 2008 whose
mates
are all the Goldman Sachs
bankers and
hedge fund bazan massive
bonuses uh
smokes on pa pa ye but the ones
paying
paying the bills for this will
show
those guys will take back
control from
new law in London and I think
that was a
that was a powerful feeling so
there you
go taking it back this is just
marketing
this is nothing special by the
way
taking it back was the message
take it
back and that was what they
decided upon
early on and they liked it but
then they
went to some academics
and found persuasion studies
persuasive
usage of words and tactics that
had
actual formulas attached to it
so again
nothing really crazy if there's
tons of
focus groups done on what
persuasive
tactics work marketing is
persuasion and
so they brought in the guys who
done
some studies so he had to do
things in
mistake risks and we had to do
things in
a slightly new way so one of
the basic
things that I did was I brought
in a
team of physicists who
essentially
looked at campaigning from
complete
first principles and what they
did was
they went they simply stand
around the
world and they said what
studies have
been done on issues of turnout
and
persuasion if I actually have
good maths
behind them to support and have
been
replicated and we can actually
have
confidence in and they basically
filtered all when through
filtered them
all out and came back to me in
the team
and said here is a small
selection of
things actually high quality or
reasonable quality work which
you can
rely upon and here are the
principles
that you can see in these
studies that
have been replicated with
randomized
control trials and whatnot in
the States
we basically created a
checklist of what
these things were and we built
the
communications team around
trying to
exploit each of these elements
which the
which the which the physicists
found
they also construct two models
to help
direct resources on the ground
campaigns
to where to actually send your
activists
and the digital campaign how do
you
actually do that in a in a
scientific
way and essentially you had
streams of
data coming in from all sorts of
different ways the website
email on the
ground canvassing a social
media pop law
all of this stuff is a
traditional
polling all of this stuff
coming in and
you had the data science people
sitting
at the heart of the operation
and
essentially taking our core
messages and
just learning experimentally a
whole
bunch of different things on
Facebook
and asked
and then figuring out what what
fees
work and what things don't work
we
started off with a few small
amounts of
money just to run this
experimental
process so there's your a be
testing he
had a small a small data set of
proven
persuasion techniques and what
I found
interesting which comes back in
a minute
is he was also getting feedback
from the
the campaigners on the ground
this is
never mentioned but people with
boots on
the ground who would go door to
door and
they and this is the only time
machine
learning was used they changed
the way
and this is important they
changed what
they used as polling data and he
explains would you have you
kind of
polling so I'm sure all of you
know the
polling methodology used
throughout the
world is essentially the same
system
that was invented in the late
1930s and
the idea of it is yo you take
roughly
speaking a thousand person
sample and if
it's random and representative
then you
can rely on the mathematics of
the
normal distribution and the
famous bell
curve and you that should give
you a
pretty accurate picture of what
people
think for various reasons that
is
becoming harder and harder to
do happy
to answer questions about why
that is
but leaving that aside what the
physicist said was this is
actually not
the way that you would invent
polling if
you were going to invent
polling now the
way actually to do it is take
massive
samples of hundreds of
thousands of
people ideally actually
millions of
people but say hundred
thousands people
and then use machine learning
and you
will actually have a system
which is
faster cheaper more accurate
and never
has nothing to advantage which
we
exploited which is that if you
do these
very large sample surveys you
then have
subsample you can define the
demographics that you
interrogate
yourself and what we did was we
basically used the exact same
categories
in the demographics that
Facebook uses
for its digital advertising
platform so
we sucked in data on the
precise same
basis that Facebook marketing
allows and
then we had therefore large sub
samples
of the overall polling samples
which you
could actually rely on and then
you
could take that data and plug it
straight back into Facebook so
you could
say for example we will target
women between 35 and 45 who
live in
these particular geographical
entities
who don't have a degree or who
do have a
degree or whatever
that's after cetera because
you've got
very large samples you can
actually get
useful information on those
kind of
relatively small breakdowns
now I'm no marketing expert but
this
sounds just like regular old
cross-indexing to me
yeah yeah I guess you could say
that I
think it's right I mean you say
that I
mean my shrink machine learning
in this
case just machine learning it's
bullcrap
yeah that part we know it just
nothing
it's just uh just there is no
such thing
as machine learning the
machines don't
learn anything it's just the
ability to
cross-reference cross-index
these
categories disregard sorter so
he
exactly so this is what that
resulted in
so we did all this and we as I
said we
essentially ran a whole series
of
experiments based on what we
found in
the conventional polling in the
focus
groups out in digital world and
then
filtered what what worked and
then we
held back almost all of our
budget and
then we basically dumped the
entire
budget in the last ten days and
really
in the last three or four days
again
exactly what the Trump campaign
did held
back and then just blew
millions in the
last week in the last few days
based
upon weeks and weeks of a be
testing
this is exactly what the media
does not
want to be passed around
exactly and we
aimed it exactly but I think
roughly
about seven million people saw
something
like I think a billion in our
heart one
and a half billion digital ads
over a
relatively short short period
of time
and in parallel to that you had
the
whole ground operation which
will also
to begin with they were quite
skeptical
about this what the hell is
some guy who
babbles on about quantum
mechanics what
does he have to tell people who
like me
have been going out to leaflet
on
doorsteps for thirty years so
people are
very skeptical but they do all
the
ground you know if you've been
doing
that job you actually respond
well to
things that work so very
quickly they
came back and said actually
these
boffins have sent us to the
right place
it's unbelievable these these
are our
people so quickly that kind of
trust
issue was sorted out inside the
organizer it's like the
organization and
the ground team were happy to
go where
the data suggested that there
that their
efforts will be most useful do
I think
this ground team is undervalued
in the
overall scheme of
because they were basically
saying
here's where the people live go
knock on
their doors and they were
getting good
results to a one major item
that is no
longer discussed as a part of
the brexit
vote and that was the I think
was a Jill
Dando who was murdered was that
her was
this the wrong one I don't I
don't know
yeah it's the the murder the
woman who
was murdered
she was a puller no no she was a
politician wasn't a joke ox I'm
sorry
Joe Cox yes sure of the Labour
Party she
was killed and and this is no
right time
on the UK in the UK yes Jill
Dando was a
different killing now this was
Jill Cox
and she was killed on June 16th
and that
was what just a few weeks
before the
before the brexit vote and that
changed
things dramatically but the
elites they
had a different view as to what
the rest
of the country had and this guy
of
course saw that in his mass
polling data
um and our campaign took a
bunch of it
we know we all pushed on I'm
sorry hold
on this is why did this happen
was it
just immigration no it wasn't
just
immigration giving people a
chance to
vote for the NHS as well as
voting
against the EU without that
then the
economic scares or the
establishment
would have been - you powerful
and we
would have lost could we have
won
without immigration absolutely
not
the reality of it is that those
three
big forces that I talked about
created
the conditions in which we
could win but
then you had the government
making a
series of big mistakes and you
had our
team which which managed to
exploit it
and their mistakes essentially
were
their renegotiation was a
disaster
unlike inmate 75 when Wilson
pulled the
same trick there he persuaded
people
that the relationship had
changed and
therefore the polls moved this
time no
one believed what come and came
back
with and in particular
Cameron never understood the
danger for
him of coming back and saying
essentially nothing had changed
on
immigration they also I think
run it by
campaign they relied on people
or M&C
Saatchi and various big
advertising
agencies who did a fairly
rubbish job
and they and they lived in the
bubble
and you could see that in the
last 10
days after the terrible murder
they
essentially chained ditched
their whole
campaign and stopped talking
about
economic risks and turned the
whole
thing just into a wig the good
people
and your the bad people because
that was
the self-reinforcing culture
that you
heard in London whereas in fact
as soon
as you went outside the m25 and
did
market research the rest the
country had
a totally different reaction to
the
murder then then then people
better
educated which of people living
in
London did so without the fear
of the
immigrant fear without the NHS
fear that
you'll be paying 350 million
extra a
week or whatever it was in your
health
care it never would have worked
but they
also completely misjudged the
Joe Cox
murder and to wind it up he's
going to
shoot a big middle finger to
the media
the people who are supposed to
know
better and know how these
things work
and our campaign took a bunch
of it we
know we operated on we're just
on very
very simple tried and tested
rules
that work about organizations
we kept
the end piece out of all
management no
MP had anything to do with the
management of the campaign it
was run by
about six or ten people the
oldest of
which was made youngest of whom
was 21
so we kept this team small they
worked
extremely hard they made a lot
of
sacrifices and they focused on
the
public not on the media and not
on the
insider on the insider game I
think in
the long run some of the things
that we
try to do you can see all the
parties
now are trying to learn from
authorized
are trying to learn from some
of the
things that we did I don't
think that
we've done a very good job wise
with
them in the last
Muskaan pain the reality is the
most
communications companies are
populated
by bullshitting charlatans most
of them
should be fired and I think
that in the
next ten years of massive chunk
of them
will be fired and people are
still
looking valley and others will
increasingly take over this
industry the
way they've taken over other
industries
and if you've got a not very
good degree
in English or Gender Studies or
something like that then you're
very
rapidly going to get I think
you're
gonna get fired and the
industry will go
through the kind of change that
other
industries have seen there you
go yeah
get a degree in gender studies
that's
really a winner
well that was interesting I
think
there's a little long yeah it
was but I
think some people may have been
bored I
liked it because I'm interested
in this
stuff to an extreme yes and why
I think
it was important to do it a
little
longer is that if we watch this
movie
Monday I wonder how much of the
truth of
what he really did comes back
into the
creative product probably none
I think
he got Facebook information and
then you
did it proper none none
probably none
this is movie it's a piece of
propaganda
obviously it's designed for
exactly what
you said I definitely want to
watch it
and it will probably have some
effect
but you know this constant
hounding and
hounding by the medium and easy
they
can't really be overlooked even
though
he thinks that you know these
guys are a
bunch of screw-ups but it can't
be
overlooked about how
never-ending hounding and
hounding at me
when you go to the bank T of
the day and
like one of the tellers is
depressed and
you know she thinks that
world's coming
to an end and all the rest of us
watching the news and news she's
watching the network news and
it's just
not a healthy environment for
most
people but the conundrums day
off of TV
I mean so we're not the only
people
seeing this there's no there's
people in
Washington DC and other
political power
and they see this and so here's
the
conundrum do we all go out and
hire this
guy or guys like him and dive
into this
or do we see the danger and
that anyone
could do this and do we need to
regulate
it nothing to regulate it but
just
targeted advertising is oh it's
just a
form oh I know I know but you
got to put
yourself into a moronic no
one's gonna
do anything about it no but
they will
try well they're just wasting
time they
should probably learn from the
guy yeah
I'm always surprised it's just
the same
way he got to repeat them the
right
message over and over and over
again to
the right people yeah but so
what else
is new
the guy just found the people
try to use the new methodology
to find
the people yeah I mean that's
what these
two marketing people have
always been
doing all their lives is from
the
beginning of the idea to the
answer the
most recent they're just trying
to find
these people that's why
Facebook is so
appealing because they claim
they've got
a key to the kingdom they got a
way of
finding the people you're
looking for
you're looking for this person
because
this person wants to buy your
product we
have them right here in this
little box
I am so happy we don't have to
do that
no we know what I actually
enjoy about
this show is that our audiences
everybody in fact we did a meet
up on
first tell me about the minute
yes says
this is boots on the ground for
me you
got we had about 32 to 37
people show up
which was a lot cuz it was a
flash
meetup we just threw it
together in the
last minute how many people
about 37 not
bad for a flash no not bad not
bad it's
very good actually and it was
all you
know the to classic no agenda
Maven's a
little different slightly
different and
that there were a little more
academics
I think then for example in
Seattle
there's very few I mean by
academics I
don't mean their professors I
mean they
work at the University there's
a at
least two or maybe three
librarians
there Oh including some
interesting ones
do they have do they go stop
stop stop
do they have a hair in a bun
and glasses
that they could then undo the
bar oh oh
well do they have a bun hello
buns the
place okay you know I used to
be a
spokesperson for the American
Library
Association give us your pitch
I don't
remember they use my picture on
posters
I was more of a poster boy I
wasn't the
spokesperson I was a poster boy
literally pretty face yep it
was a good
group I learned a lot I got some
interesting little tidbits
which I'll
bring into the show I don't
have today I
didn't bring there the the
contributions
in the prescribed envelope are
still in
a in a big processing with him
I'm gonna
put him in a Thursday show did
he take
him home again
sorry didn't mean me take the
envelope
home no there's no it's a bunch
of
envelopes you want your
envelope just
kidding and their invite my
back pocket
that's what immediately go and
they get
fair process processed but it
was a good
group and it was good places
Gilman
breweries a kind of a Belgian
beer house
Moriah house and as they make
interesting products including
a lager
that's quite tasty anyway was
but this
is we need to do more of these
but you
can't I did have one guy which
I led a
sea was there and JC could talk
to talk
when it comes to this sort of
thing this
guy is Polish big guy and he's
going on
he's a troubleshooter for a
bunch of
Silicon Valley operations right
now
looking for work and he's given
greeting
me the riot act about how the
Silicon
Valley is turned into a bunch
of left
wingers and this has to do with
agile
the reason the style of work
that you
were selling a lot of oh my
explain this
agile what is this agile is I
just in a
nutshell is where you bullshit
you're
everybody's bullshitting each
other so
there's no oh you fake it till
you make
it nothing ever gets done and
he's got
this theory that this creates a
lying
environment which is called
which is fit
for the lefties there's a long
story but
he wants us to cover this more
he goes
you're not talking about how
terrible it
isn't Silicon Valley how they
all become
left wingers I said well when I
was a
kid they were all right wingers
and he
says you should cover that more
and I
tried to say to him and I'm
gonna say it
to everybody else who tries to
do this
to do certain things we
deconstruct the
news but now we don't initiate
coverage
unless there's something that
initiates
it for us I mean we have out of
the blue
come up with a couple of little
things
that look like we initiated but
in fact
it comes from information that
we're
deconstructing and it's and
there's
nothing to deconstruct here
Silicon Valley is just a bunch
of
a-holes oh hey well done you
nailed it
yeah it's very hard to get
people to
realize we're not investigative
reporters
we're not you know we are D
constructionists period and
that's what
we do and if there's nothing to
deconstruct there's nothing for
us to
talk about but there's plenty to
deconstruct let alone start
making stuff
up so you know you should talk
to my son
and so I JC over there who
could talk
for days about management in
Silicon
Valley Oh better that was that
I put him
over there and the hour later
is still
there you know he's this guy's
was funny
to watch it's like a
heavyweight boxing
champ did you talk to anyone
else was
there any it was not do a lot
of people
I didn't talk to that guy that
much
because I I couldn't keep
hearing this I
talk to everybody out there
wasn't maybe
one or two people choices a guy
could
keep talked about football with
a guy
from Alabama and his girlfriend
are
moving in Arizona eventually I
talked I
talked about it it was very it
was a
great meet of lots of good shit
conversations good I remember
22nd of
February is the Boise Idaho and
I'm
Boise Idaho the Des Moines Iowa
Meetup
there's a desk would people
have been
pestering me about 22nd of
February yes
yes we want to go to it hello
it's
because we're there that
there's a
meet-up okay yeah that's my
second we're
actually flying in early to do
the
meetup that's uh I think it's
trill to
pack them in I have no idea how
many
producers we have in the
Midwest no idea
you know come in from Chicago
yeah they
might they might and Milwaukee
so lots
of time to plan for that and
actually we
had dinner with uh with marks
or mark
the art a staff documentary and
last
night he's all jacked about
Mark Hall
he's all mark jacked about the
Texas
Meetup which is still in the
works
people stay tuned it's coming I
promise
you no agenda imagine all the
people who
could do is awesome oh yeah
and I should measure the dude
or one of
our dudes named Mohammed was at
the idea
did he have his headgear on no
so let's
thank a few people we don't
have that
many on this list today but
let's start
with Joseph Costello in Pittston
Pennsylvania he's starting a
Dame
account for his lovely wife
Mary she
used to tolerate by listening
to the
show but has become a true fan
we had a
lot of anecdotal stories about
that sort
of thing good to me well these
are this
is the times when these things
happen
where people turn
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110
dollars and 10 cents or her
Blandy by
he's the by count of Georgia
yes sir
Austin of the snowy Cascades
110 dollars
and 10 cents and Sammamish
Washington
and he says he'd like Karma for
his wife
Laura big big week next week
for her in
job search with multiple
interviews yes
coming up for her Jonathan has
110
dollars in deutschland although
George
saw pests SS Rick Cable $100
now he
wants karma for his son Matt
Cable who's
deploying overseas this week for
seven-month deployment
and put Dan hey listen he says
his son
Matt was actually on the rocks
new
fitness challenge show Titan II
Ames
yeah we got that guy to those
challenge
those are tough guys it's no
joke
alright karma coming up for him
of
course those shows are meant to
humiliate these people I'm not
mad Dane
Coleman 8205 he's gonna be a
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okay
mmm Oh what do we got I got a
couple
things I was hoping you would
have yeah
here's some reports from that
we don't
get in the United States at all
I don't
know why this one doesn't get
some play
but let's play killing mayor's
in Mexico
yes it's a nuisance killing him
it's a
new sport in Mexico human
rights groups
and family members are
demanding justice
after the mayor of a town in the
southern state of Oaxaca was
gunned down
New Year's Day just hours after
taking
office alejandro Aparicio was
surrounded
by supporters and publicly
touring city
offices when he was shot on the
street
the gunman was pinned to the
ground
until police could arrive to
arrest him
he's been described as a 34
year old
former police officer from
northern
Mexico a Padilla's Widow
Victoria
fethiye believes the killer and
not did
not act on his own but I guess
we want
to do everything possible to
clarify
this murder because there can
be no
impunity that is what we are
asking for
as a family here to clarify the
killing
and to support us Padilla was a
member
of the Progressive Party of
Mexican
President Andres Manuel Lopez
Obrador
his death came as human rights
researchers said 175 Mexican
politicians
were killed over a 12-month
period
ending last August geez
dropping like
flies way to go man you ever
run in our
country yeah I don't know why
just
didn't get more play because I
had a lot
of fun with it I only have a
very short
report from the Canadian
Broadcasting
Company on the German hack oh
yes
there's very little there's some
European reporting that I
picked up I'm
glad you have a clip in Germany
hundreds
of politicians that all levels
of
government have been hit by a
massive
data breach it reportedly
includes
addresses cell phone numbers
credit card
details internal communications
at least
some of it was leaked through
Twitter we
don't know who's behind the
breach but
officials say all but one party
was
specifically targeted now let's
just
stop for a second here which is
the
party that wasn't targeted the
AFD okay
yeah it's the you know the new
guys the
Trump guys basically the the
model to
make the magaz that make
Germany great
again people
the alternate even feared
Deutschland
AFD but it wasn't just
politician was
also celebreties there's all
kinds of
stuff in here and it's from
cloud
accounts it's not just from in
fact
Thank You cloud yes yeah it
seems like
it seems like there's some good
stuff
out there you know this if
anybody we
have a lot of dues they've been
if
anyone can get us a I'm sure I
don't
know what the size of this file
is but
I'd sure like to take a look at
this
stuff
yeah how about this dark
overlord thing
though this is not getting a
lot of play
but I'm seeing people getting
very
worried about this this is the
this is
the group the dark overlord who
are New
Year's Eve says hey we have
18,000
documents related to September
11 2001
terrorist attacks in particular
documentation about the
insurance
policies of I guess the World
Trade
Center all dealing guy who
bought it who
bought the Trade Center like if
not so
long before that collapses yeah
was
silverstein it was well known
they took
out these big insurance
policies just
before the thing was leveled
well so
they're slowly releasing pieces
of
information which nothing
earth-shattering yet but it
does seem
like people in Washington are
worried
about this I'm not quite sure
why what
do they have to hide there must
be
something there must be
something
worried about and they say pay
the eff
up or we're going to bury you
in this as
the dark Overlord group or the
dark
Overlord person and money's he
asking me
for I don't think he's asking
for money
as a toy he's asking for money
they what
are they doing
yeah however you'll be paying
us yeah so
he wants to be paid or they
want to be
paid I guess they've released
some
decryption keys which do unlock
some
some documents they have some
proof
yeah well this the same with
the tribune
company that was it that was a
total
ransomware problem they ran
into yeah
that was recent yeah yeah I
said the
ransomware thing was over I
thought
people had protections against
that I
think I'm over some your scheme
no oh
and then this obvious one
this is Russia's word against
Whelan and
Whelan's family this is the
American
Whalen whe LAN who has been
detained in
Russia as a spies word Russia
say that
he was caught red-handed in the
act of
espionage and Whelan's family
insist he
was just there for a wedding
Raina's lawyer is not seeking
bail and
Russian courts have till the
24th to
decide Russian media is also
claiming
now that Whalen spent the last
decade
developing a network of
contacts in
Russia using social media
leading up to
his arrest last week supposedly
with a
flash drive containing a list of
employees from a secret russian
department Whalen's family says
he just
loves traveling he loves Russia
he was
helping to arrange a friend's
wedding
much remains unknown about
Whalen who
lives in this house in Michigan
it's
emerged that he is also a
Canadian
citizen as British citizen
possibly an
Irish citizen and today the
British
Foreign Minister also spoke out
I'm
telling you you got four
passports you
know I love the cover
I talked to agent orange about
this the
cover of him having an honorable
discharge from the military
total cover
this guy is a spook duh hello
is this
like questions of all what does
oh and
of course it's retaliation for
locking
up the Russian spy yes McMartin
Betina
what's her name yeah I can't
remember
her name yeah because they're
not
registered agents you have to
understand
in the intelligence game you
have
registered agents if you're an
agent for
another country which usually
means
you're just paying off people
with money
it's called lobbying in America
you're a
spy and you register me at
diplomat spy
diplomats by same thing and if
you don't
if you're not registered in
every
country as unregistered agents
in each
other's countries you get
caught yeah or
that's pretty much they're
known to be
agents you take one of ours
good want to
take one of yours I think the
difference
is the FSB will actually tell
everyone
what this guy did we don't even
we don't
have anything on Bettina other
than whoa
she was lobbying truce Leo
nobody know
what she did that's one of the
reasons
this is one of the funny bits
about it
so yes and no agenda confirms
the guy's
got to be a spook course for
passports
huh
you know why he's just that
passport
hobbyist I want to see how many
countries I can become get a
passport
that's my job that's what I do
you
really I mean so he you know if
you have
a it's not easy to get multiple
passports as a US citizen they
do
complain you know
they're like what you want to
be a US
citizen or something else well
in my
daughter's case my mom's Dutch
okay will
allow that then you know what I
had four
different countries hmm no no
no that's
all we know of he may have other
passports buried somewhere
you just don't know yes all
right I
don't have a clip on that I
just thought
it would be worth discussing I
do have
some more other weird stuff
that is not
being discussed all we do have
the flu
season thing get happening it's
not
being promoted as much in this
country
but apparently this last this
batch of
the flu has already killed a
few people
but in Canada they're all
freaked out
because it got off to an early
start and
started spreading before any we
could do
much about so let's play our
gratuitous
and probably yearly flu season
clip
shaping up to be a particularly
brutal
flu season in Canada now of
course the
flu can be more than just
unpleasant it
can be dangerous and even
deadly well
new numbers are out today and
the number
of cases has gone through the
roof and
one particular strain is doing
most of
the damage so far this flu
season there
have been more than 13,000 lab
confirmed
cases in Canada 11,000 of those
were
variations of influenza A with
h1n1 as
the dominant strain it's a big
jump in
cases nearly 50% over this time
last
year with about two-thirds of
them
hitting young otherwise healthy
adults
those people who might not
think they're
particularly vulnerable but
that's how
h1n1 tends to operate already I
mean
isn't this the swine flu h1n1
is swine
flu I think h1n1 is wine flu
but it's
not but it's not version a um I
think if
it is anything close to swine
flu they
always call it swine flu hmm I
don't
know now as you mention it
you're right
24 Canadians have died now
health
officials say it's not too late
to get
the flu shot
far from it they're still
months left in
the season and what's more this
year's
vaccine is proving more
effective than
in years past now it's the bird
flu h1n1
is the bird flu in five was the
bird flu
okay kid let's figure out as
cowspiracy
tells us that is welcome news
for those
who've been devastated by the
virus in
the worst possible way there's
- with
this crackers not swine flu the
flu
season is an unusually painful
time of
the year for Jill Primeau Leigh
in 2016
her little boy Jude died from
the flu
even though he'd been
vaccinated a few
months earlier so when we get
to this
point every year it's it's
stressful all
over again and and just really
sad
because I know there are going
to be
thousands of more families like
mine
where people are going to lose
their
lives and their loved ones from
this
preventable disease health
officials
have said it's rare for people
to die
from infectious diseases
they've been
vaccinated against it is the
swine flu
yeah h1n1 is the swine flu
I'd know laid the jig well this
is
Canada so they're not pushing
that debt
meme and maybe that has
something to do
it bird flu h5n1 yeah I
remember getting
swine flu when I was in San
Francisco
would it cost I just remember
being in
bed for a couple days I stopped
smoking
and that was good I'm still
hearing am a
flu No
no I even knew you at the time
he hadn't
even didn't even offer to each
let me
suffer oh it's funny I don't
remember
this this is a new story
micro-services
architecture moving right along
your
speciality your beat my
complaint your
complaint but also your betta is
CenturyLink the CenturyLink 911
call
outage did you look into this
did you
find out what this was yeah it
was a
network at some sort of network
card
that blew up it was just a
hardware
failure Oh like with anything
else in a
microservices architected
environment
one thing goes out there's more
than one
or two single points of failure
and that
I mean it doesn't have to be
you can
have redundancy if you were no
no why
bother I was able to ever
happen to the
checksum what happened to CRC
there were
all these things that used to
have
memories I remember when the
IBM PC came
out they'd have a you could buy
cheap
memory which had all the bits
and then
there was a more expensive
memory they
had to load a little extra chip
a parody
chip to make sure that the
memory was
doing its thing and it was
accurate you
had the parity chip cause too
much where
they don't even work 90% of the
time who
cares we don't oh I didn't know
anything
about this what is this magical
chip do
the magical chip I think it
could
maintain I'm not sure anymore I
used to
know but I think it maintains
some like
a checksum value for the wood
was in the
memory itself and if that and
it would
check against it right and if
it got a
different hash or a different
check saw
something and it would said I
know
there's no good memories gone
bad and
that we don't have that anymore
there's
no reason for it because it's
like the
failure rate is so low right
with the
way things are that you don't
care and
so you just let this thing
slide and I
think that's what happened with
this
instead of having a backup a
redundant a
network card I'm pretty sure it
does
what it was when I read yes I
was able
to find a clip with someone in
charge
over there at CenturyLink for
the first
time since this outage I was
able to
talk to someone from
CenturyLink on
camera just a short time ago
the bottom
line here is that well yes this
system
is back up and running they
still don't
know exactly what went wrong
and they're
trying to figure that out what
are you
doing to make sure something
like this
doesn't happen again it's a
great
question we feel very confident
the
system is stable it's up and
running we
don't anticipate any issues
days after a
911 in Washington caused 4,500
calls to
fail
CenturyLink that
telecommunications
company responsible says they're
narrowing in on the problem but
still
can't tell us exactly what
caused that
six-hour failure they know the
outage
was due to a technical error in
a
third-party vendors call router
but when
I asked what that technical
error was
they said they don't know so
right now
we need to break down every
point of
contact between the 911 1
Center in
Washington or centers and the
center of
CenturyLink data centers as
well to make
sure we've exactly found the
reason for
the outage and how are we going
to fix
it prevent it in the future
the Washington emergency
management
division believes the 911
system is
stable now
but it still wants assurances
from
Century Lake something like
this won't
happen again the thing about
this clip
from 2014
haha and they were fine sixteen
million
dollars for it
no one told you that huh second
time
this has happened with these
guys this
is the problem with this
architect this
micro-services architecture and
he is
probably right I mean I don't
see how
you get the thing back online
without
knowing what cost but I just
can't
believe that this is from 2014
and now
we're five years later and it
happens
again exact same thing I'm sure
it is
the exact same thing
yeah yeah as a single point of
failure
that failed again again for
five years
five years and it stops working
I mean
this happens if anyone has had a
computer nowadays we start to
see the
evidence of this of this
hardware issues
in the environment because when
when in
this late 70s 8 and throughout
the
entire 80s and then probably
half of the
90s we were buying brand-new
computers
at the rate of about one every
year and
a half so if you had a computer
you had
to get a new one every year and
a half
to two years two years is
really keeping
an old clunker alive right
because of
all these new drivers and the
new
peripherals and all these other
things
you're buying and the new chips
made a
difference so you were buying
in the 80s
for sure you are buying a new
computer
every year and a half but since
most
recently we don't if the
failure you
know there's nothing happening
that's so
important that we got to get a
new
computers the same old
Microsoft Office
it's the same old Intel chips
you know
you don't need to do any so you
keep the
machines longer and now we're
starting
to see that they do crap out
after about
five years most computers if
you have
one old five year old computer
the
likelihood of it blowing up is
pretty
high and we're seeing actually
exploding
a real kinetic event it actually
happened wasn't one of mine
capacitor
blew up and it sounds like a
bomb one
that's got a cap going we'll do
it for
you yeah that'll but the point
is is
that these machines don't last
forever
no and I think apples gonna
start
putting more of that not
lasting forever
into their new devices because
I got to
do something
I gotta get people upgrading
well
they're so slacked on the Mac
they don't
want to really they're not
doing enough
work there so they're not
selling enough
and they but they I think with
their
iPhone it just breaks
constantly I think
mode I don't know anyone
without a
broken one well you mean the
glass yeah
yeah that's that's the weakest
part
or that's really their their
main thing
that's but I'm you know I'm
around a lot
of Millennials lately certainly
in the
Christmas break
they all got crack screens they
don't
care yeah they're not not
replacing
magma greens cracked
maybe I'll go and get it fixed
maybe not
as long as they can still see
it it's
just too expensive can't afford
it
I don't know and the next phone
I'm
getting cuz my phone is finally
getting
pretty yeah which one do you
have I
still have a Nexus galaxy nice
and the
cool thing about is you could
take the
back off and change the battery
yes
but I think I'm gonna get a
wall way why
don't you just go for the East
71 the
Nokia like I have
it fits your image I think I
already
have one you probably do I have
an
original it's such a good phone
that was
a good phone in this day it's
still a
great phone yeah it's got a nice
keyboard it's got a great
keyboard we
can go on like this forever
this is if I've tried nice
finish is
pretty it does
I dropped it the other day
stepping out
of the truck yeah yeah nothing
you had no the moment that all
you got
but you had instance in your
past where
you dropped him phone in the
toilet that
was the very first iPhone
that was the first I've 80-71
at the
toilet you think it would
survive hell
yeah I don't know with those
buttons and
the mechanics and oh yeah I've
dropped
t---seventy ones in the toilet
before
I've dropped it in all kinds of
stuff
it's an indestructible phone
you know
the the Symbian OS has been
open sourced
someone could totally rejigger
that for
for all kinds of different
hardware I
don't know why somebody hasn't
yeah
I used to write columns about
this you
know when there's somebody
abandons
things sometimes they you know
sometimes
they can sometimes they can I
mean with
the os/2 always thought should
have been
put into the public domain by
IBM but
apparently some you know the
problem
with doing that there's some
stuff that
probably was like maybe
shouldn't be in
there and anyone anyone seeing
it who
knows but I think if you
abandon a
product I think you should push
it into
the public domain because a lot
of
people may have been reliant on
the
product yeah Microsoft is doing
a lot of
that actually
there there you know a lot of
their
older stuff they're open
sourcing dass
sakes I tell me Microsoft will
run on
Linux in our lifetime windows
it'll be Windows on top of
Linux I'm
telling you it's coming it's
coming
possible a quick look in this
is now act
8 of the yellow vests in fancy
to keep
up with over the weekend it has
yeah
it's not the same amount of
people it's
only 50,000 across the country
the
majority at the inn in Paris
it's the
yellow vest movements first
round of
protests in 2019 and many say
they're
determined to continue all year
on
Saturday at least 50,000
protesters came
out across France for the 8th
straight
week of demonstrations though
the
protests remain largely
peaceful in the
morning clashes with
authorities broke
out in multiple cities early on
into the
evening in central Paris riders
torched
cars and set barricades on fire
elsewhere in the capital
protesters
launched projectiles at police
officers
responded with tear gas
now you remember Mac wrong in
his New
Year's address we played the
clip he
said oh these are just the
people who
hate the Jews they hate the
LGBT they
just hate this is horrible
haters though
the scale of the protests has
decreased
in reason did you like my Mac
Ron was
pretty good about continued
mobilizing
saying the government's recent
concessions are not enough
we've been tightening our belts
for 15
20 years we've had enough we're
still in
an era of nobles and serfs in
2019 we've
had enough of being dragged
around by
those in power who looks down
on us they
look down on the people who
trampled all
over us of Macomb who says were
nothing
that were a crowd full of hate
even
though we've just shown that
this
demonstration was amazing
peaceful so
there was no trouble in
response to
Saturday's tensions Interior
Minister
Christophe casanare held an
emergency
Crisis Response meeting in the
capital
and urged protesters to respect
the rule
of law now I stand with the
yellow vests
man these guys are great those
are
patriots right they're not
given up
screw you
what do you say we still live
in the
land of sirs and Lords here
I know this does the fresh can
only put
up with so much and they and I
and I
know they won't quit they will
not quit
not good on them they probably
won't
quit in to discredit which
brings
through the cook begs the
question
what's gonna happen
yeah I don't know
it's not going to get prettier
this is its thorn in the side
of the EU
they're gonna have to I don't
know this
is not gonna work out as far as
I can
tell hmm bad things are gonna
happen all
right you got one last one to
get us out
of here
you got anything well first up
before I
get out of here I don't want to
say I
did put an Amy ISO together I
wanted to
play that so I can see if it's
any good
yeah I I have these this is
what I was
planning thank you for your
courage
that's what I was planning his
ISO of
the day listen I actually had
that one
oh but it lost out to this one
which the
Trump administration unil our
day pulled
out of last year no it's funny
but I
know Nancy is much more prettier
Nancy wins I've got a thing on
the dairy
industry being de-emphasized up
in
Canada which is a big deal
there's
another unreported thing at the
democracy now report on the
Iranians are
sending satellites up and they
think
it's like a just a cheap trick
to get
their ballistic missile together
hmm baseball a Canadian
perspective was
always good of the shutdown
yeah okay go
to Dairy dairies
we're doing dairy people here
comes all
those new year's resolutions to
eat
healthier and soon there will
be a new
Canada Food Guide to help you
along it's
something lots of us probably
learned
about in school and then maybe
took
granted but Health Canada's
been working
on an overhaul it's coming in a
few
months and today we're getting
an idea
of what could change draft copy
recommends Canadians eat a
variety of
healthy foods each day pretty
straightforward right but
potentially
the biggest change dairy
products may
disappear as their own food
group
instead lumped in with proteins
what don't pick my dairy in my
proteins
people yeah we look at chip is a
vegetable we love you guys up
there
and that wraps it up for today's
deconstruction
I'll be watching the Globes
tonight see
if there's anything there see if
anyone's really funny I have low
expectations but we will go do
it but
down now we'll return on
Thursday we'll
see if we can figure out what's
going on
with yous also thank you for
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I'm Adam curry I'm from
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where reigned throughout the
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unbelievable for California we
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Jhansi tabarak and want to
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mixes until
Thursday adios mofos and such
I just have this vision of you
sitting
there in your office on the hill
watching the trains go by it
goes one
now marking it down in your
little
notebook
I definitely the little know
calling
calling in some quarters
complaints I
hear that Zephyr coming it's
rolling
round the bend we started no
agenda it's
later again so I ride it in the
helpful
and call up to
is on a closet for for service
goes
answering
listen that God people must
just be
thinking the hell are these
guys doing
there were so many haters out
there
whatever is going on in the
internet
don't pay attention to them
everybody's
putting out who's going to
click on or
who they're gonna watch no
that's the
Kenya they don't have a
political bias
other than cash frustration
impression
you get from the president that
he would
like to not only close
government build
a wall but also abolish
Congress but
once you get to like the tippy
tops
national parks are getting a
bit messy
as they're operating on a
skeleton staff
with limited resources
aka no restrooms or trash
collection the
bathrooms are kind of a
challenge though
because you trying to give me
advice
about some doing you ain't got
that mr.
Trump also told lawmakers he
didn't like
the word shut down he has to
give up a
concrete wall and replace it
with a
steel fence in order to do that
so that
Democrats can say see he's not
building
a wall anymore so well then I
don't know
you'd have to ask her
psychiatrist go
find that it's divine I don't
work told
the president we needed the
government
open he resisted the fact he
said he'd
keep the government closed for
a very
long period of time months or
even years
absolutely I said that your
steel is
stronger than concrete okay
okay so you
could check it out
it's sort of the agenda and
it's got the
live stream set up but of the
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playing in fat lady is radiated
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