December 23rd, 2018 • 2h 44m
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okay now we'll go on March Adam
curry
this is no agenda just witness
the
12-bar Coastal late by an hour
going by
I'm John Seymour I don't
typically do
New Year's resolutions but I
think we
should resolve to stop with the
Zephyr
stuff in 2019 it's not a weak
issue oh
I'm sorry I was just trying to
make it
the show we just trying to make
it
magnanimous a show that's a
show issue
try to trick me
I just have this vision of you
sitting
there in your office on the hill
watching the trains go by it
goes one
now marking it down your little
notebook
I definitely the little no
calling
calling in comforters everyone
calling
in complaints it was late you
know I
used to call in complaints
because
there's some clowns some years
back
maybe we're talking some years
back who
would love coming through with
their
freight trains honking the horn
as loud
as they can but there's no
crossings
there's nothing honking and
honking at
3:00 in the morning thinking
that's
hilarious
classic doing the same thing if
I was
yeah
Austin has that too we have the
the
trains coming through and they
always
are blowing their horn yeah on
purpose
of course especially at 3:00 in
the
morning there's no reason for
it today
is an important day
December 23rd 2018 not that
you'd know
it but there's an important
election
taking place today which kind
of fits in
with my beat
we'll then is your be to
discuss I'm
going to discuss it with a
quick three
clip a three parter clip series
because
it makes nothing but since what
have I
been tracking I've been
tracking Ebola
in the Democratic Republic of
Congo and
typically when there's Ebola
the whole
idea is to send in some
military troops
to keep everything peaceful and
calm
which may have a secondary
reason we
learned recently that the
actual area of
North was it the kuba Kuniko v
qu you
know already or there was a
particular
area of the Democratic Republic
of Congo
is where pretty much all your
cell phone
materials comes from there's
diamonds
there's gold there's also a lot
of oil
and there's an election that's
been
gearing up and whenever there's
elections we always want to be
involved
and I have a feeling that maybe
the
Ebola stories is to just get us
ready in
case we have to jump in and do
something
because there's a big problem
with these
elections again slated for
today in the
DRC this is the infamous voting
machine
a touch screen on which voters
will
select their candidate for the
election
before a ballot is printed and
put into
a ballot box to be counted
manually the
president of the Electoral
Commission
claims that this machine will
make
voting easier for the
population and at
the same time guarantee total
transparency we want the winner
to win
the best of them almost succeed
the
machine is to annihilate all
attempts at
cheating which we unfortunately
witnessed in the 2011 in 2006
elections
this is what the Machine is
here to fix
at the Electoral Commission
headquarters
as in several places in
Kinshasa voting
machines are displayed so that
anybody
can come and experiment with
the new
technology fast even men
now that I've tried it it looks
very
easy to me but the question is
now will
the uneducated people like our
mothers
in the villages know how to use
the
machines with the pole fast
approaching
some opposition leaders are
still very
unhappy about the use of the
machines
which they call cheating
machines
machine commanded of what the
voting
machines are not a reliable way
to vote
Congolese people are not used
to it
company either a black clan
shows this
way of voting law so they can
cheat
there seems to be some issue
with these
new voting machines that have
been
brought in manufactured by miru
systems
a fine South Korean firm which
believes
me to believe there might be
some
Chinese stuff in there but also
if you
have an Ebola infested country
and area
why are you gonna have touch
screens
that seems like exactly the
opposite of
what you'd want to do and nikki
Haley at
the UN had her own issues we
are deeply
concerned by the Election
Commission's
insistence on using an
electronic voting
system that has never been used
in the
DRC our understanding is that
the
Commission has never even
tested this
electronic voting system in the
DRC but
plans to deploy this technology
for the
first time on Election Day it
should go
without saying that employing an
unfamiliar technology for the
first time
during a crucial election is an
enormous
risk it has the potential to
seriously
undermine the credibility of
elections
that so many have worked hard
to see
that happen these elections
must be held
by paper ballots so there is no
question
by the Congolese people about
the
results the u.s. has no
appetite to
support an electronic voting
system
except here of course you're
right it
isn't ice though if it was made
by
Diebold maybe
she would have been okay with
it but
perhaps the fact that it comes
from
South Korea and could have some
Chinese
technology in there who of
course would
like to have some control over
the
country seeing as they're the
ones in
there getting all the minerals
so what
do you do well you do this of
course the
first pictures of a burning
Election
Commission warehouse in
Kinshasa the
capital of the Democratic
Republic of
Congo inside were voting
materials
destined for centers throughout
the city
ahead of presidential elections
on
December 23rd it started at
about two
o'clock in the morning local
time an
estimated 7,000 voting machines
were
destroyed
I can't take it much further
than this I
don't know who's behind it but
certainly
we're not happy with the with
the voting
machines and that may have
something to
do with the outcome and who
ultimately
is in control I think we have
no control
over this one we're just we're
just
blowing in the wind well you
don't know
that well that's that's why I
always say
the Ebola may be there so if
the wrong
person gets elected which could
happen
then we concede it will happen
then we
can fit our standards yes then
we can
send in some troops to protect
everyone
from Ebola so it could be a
distraction
so because there's nothing in
the news
that I've see I mean I had to
go to
al-jazeera
where else did I mean no US
outlets of
any significance of reporting
on even on
the election really and
certainly not
definitely can't have nikki
Haley saying
that voting machines are no
good for us
but not for you in the DRC shut
up and
give me some minerals for my
cell phone
yes well we obviously will keep
trying
this is not gonna it sounds to
me that
this border line you know mess
it is a
mess
it isn't absolutely it's an
actual mess
good I'm glad you caught that
yeah so
that's so the election is today
so who
knows maybe Ebola will step up
today
depending on the outcome I
don't think
we all yeah I don't think we
have an
outcome just yet I'll keep an
eye on it
why but I've considered one of
my beats
to be the Supreme Court Justice
picks
ooh yes you mean because you're
already
counting on Ruth Bader Ginsburg
no
longer serving as a justice
my mother had cancer and she
lived to 90
and she probably had cancer for
I don't
know a long time like maybe I
think well
my mother had lung cancer just
some
something oh god she was so
skinny that
the cancer couldn't thrive oh
really
yeah huh and that's what kept
her going
that's nothing like a cabbage
diet
anyway the Ruth Gator got Ruth
cater
Bader Ginsburg it seems to have
that
same characteristics she's
really thin
if she had a blood transfusion
or
something she'd be she'd be a
goner but
he's you know still she's this
is like
she's had lots of different
cancers
she's like not just someone
whose head
has some lingering cancer so I
figure
she's got a year
it was she just being old and
tired how
about that I mean I you may
want to
serve your country but she's
believed 85
yeah she said you know da
diehard
liberal at before she dies cuz
eventually we all do there's a
lot of
good to be said about her I
mean she she
did do a lot for women she's
very very
interesting pre-owned she's an
important
part of the American experience
let me
say it before she's gone so you
know to
say you know it's easy to say
she falls
asleep she's no good but she
has quite a
history that no I'm saying I'm
saying it
in general not about you in
general
because I hear a lot of this I
read a
lot of give the woman a little
bit of
respect as she leaves
meanwhile we've got to pick
somebody I
do have an essay coming up I've
decided
from non now on out I'm not
putting in
the newsletter I'm sending them
out
separately mm-hmm
this will be the handicapping
the picks
I give you a little heads up I
do not
think a me koni koni Barrett is
going to
win anything or get picked
really I
think that they're gonna
probably put a
pickle pick a puka pack a pick
a woman
yeah and I believe it will be
her
competition which is Joan
Larson uh-huh
now John Larson and the
cuckoomy Barry
is the odds on absolute if you
want to
have checkboxes she is the
smartest she
is that prettiest she's the
youngest
hold on Joan Larson I don't
I've never
been her don't know Amy call me
Barry
this is smartest already the
youngest
gummy bear it's a few years
older I'm
not sorry Larson's a few years
older
Comey Barrett is the youngest
the
problem with call me Barrett I
believe
is in her presentation we
talked about
you know if on paper I'm
reminded of our
vice president hopeful under
the John
McCain administration who I had
picked
to be picked our friend from
Alaska yes
Sarah Palin she
I picked her not ever hearing
her yes
yes no and we and we do need to
be very
specific here the American
public
chooses their elected leaders
like we
choose our soap so it needs to
be
appealing the message needs to
be
repeated clearly and often you
will be
much whiter after you use me
now Tomi
Kony Barrett has the advantages
of being
the smartest she's got great
education
got great Kretsch has seven
children to
him she's adopted two kids from
Haiti
Haiti refugee she's a she's a
saint
what's wrong with her then John
there's
got to be something wrong her
voice ah
her voice she sounds like she's
on
helium I have a clip I want you
to play
that I have to tell everybody
cuz they
know that we have doctored our
clips of
Casey for a cheap laugh not to
change
the meaning or anything
there is no doctoring going on
with this
clip and I think just because
she
doesn't and she's a professor
but she
her voice is a bit off-putting
when is
it proper for a judge to put
their
religious views above applying
the law
Thank You chairman Grassley let
me start
with your very last question
and say
never it's never appropriate
for a judge
to impose that judges personal
convictions whether they derive
from
faith or anywhere else on the
law this
article that I wrote as a law
student
has gotten a lot of attention
since my
nomination so I'd like the
opportunity
to put it in context I brought
that Law
Review article when I was a
third-year
law student with one of my
professors 20
years ago it was a project that
he had
under way and he invited me to
work on
it with him and I was
complimented that
as a student he thought I was
up to the
task of being more than a
research
assistant but I was very much
the junior
partner in our collaboration
and that
was appropriate given our
relative
statures
would I or could I say that
sitting here
today that that article and
it's every
particular reflects how I think
about
these questions today with as
you say
the benefit of twenty years of
experience and also the ability
to speak
solely and my own voice no it
would not
doesn't seem I mean I get what
you're
going for but the competition
has got to
be a lot better for this to be
a total
game you know a a non-starter
Larson I
think has the creds to be able
to pull
this off she's got a little more
experience on the bench she's
got more
experience as a litigator she's
got more
experience in general but again
not
quite the voice you want for
someone who
I'm gonna be picky about this
but I know
you know these things do matter
I also
did there was a fear that Amy
call Kony
Barrett
it has not enough judicial
experience
he's only been on the bench for
it since
2017 along with Joan but Joan
was a was
a chief justice mm-hmm before
she got on
the bench at one of the states
I think
Michigan and it's just she was
on the
Supreme Court the problem they
believe
is that Barrett they don't know
if she's
gonna become another David
Souter who
was a big you know a big
conservative
pick by one of the one of the
conservative presidents and
turned out
to be this massive liberal
where it
could be the same way she could
become a
Matt you could just see it in
her way
she thinks that she could
become a real
killer liberal that would be a
problem
so they they're not picking her
look I'm
just telling everybody I look I
love
your mind-reading I'm not
saying that's
wrong
Joan Larson as is I think a
better
choice I'm not the voice I'd
want to
hear but at least she can I can
I quick
quick feedback just because I
had not
even heard this name prior to
this
program yeah if we were to cast
a female
justice she's the one she is
Larson is
straight out of central casting
okay
let's stop there I'm it i will
make a
commentary about this because
Adam and I
both have thoughts about
appearance from
the executive producer yes
not from you know Diaz is
prettier and
Amy is incredibly telegenic
Joan is
beautiful in a photograph but
she is not
nearly as telegenic she's
actually not
telegenic mm-hmm so there's a
little
difference there but it's
beside the
point there Supreme Court
justice
there's nothing gonna be there
never on
camera so what difference does
it make
so let's listen to her answers
but not
give to those branches as I
said in the
Supreme Court hearing judges
must be
equally dependent independent
of the
president who nominates them
and the
senators who confirmed them
so justice arson I think your
voice is
really quite masculine please
describe
what judicial independence
means to you
and tell us whether you have
any trouble
ruling against the president who
appointed you thank you for the
question
chairman Grassley I would have
absolutely no trouble ruling
against the
president who appointed me or
any
successor president as well
judicial independence means one
thing
one very simple thing and that
is
putting the law above
everything else
the statutes passed by this
body and the
Constitution of the United
States so I
would have absolutely no
trouble indeed
that would be my duty yeah
we've often
heard these words especially
since
January quote-unquote now more
than ever
we need judges who will be
independent
of the president who nominated
them so
I'd like to ask about your
nomination
and your independence a lot
much now was
this a confirmation hearing for
a for
this for the circuit court
circuits yeah
yeah the circuit also a Barrett
got less
votes in the Senate as a
confirmation
than Larson did mm-hmm and
she's a stay
hater because she's a staunch
Catholic
the other problem is I'm gonna
bring
this this is the part that that
nobody
will discuss because it's like
you can't
discuss it
to Supreme Court has too many
Catholics
on it hmm it's almost all
Catholics and
and a couple of Jews that's it
Amy called me koni Barrett is
the
extreme Catholic she's like
I've oh I
would say she's a charismatic
Catholic
in the old sense this woman
larson I
spent days trying to find out
what
religion or what religious
affiliation
she has there is none hmm she's
either
an atheist and agnostic a Wicca
or who
knows what yeah that's what she
looks
like
nailed it now and believe me I
did put a
little more effort than I
should have
because I was one point I got I
said
wait a minute I've got to
figure this
out and I went and found all
kinds of
documentation for what the
religious
affiliations are of all these
different
people and she's not defined of
I've
even written to people who
wrote some
biographies about her and
nobody ever
wrote me back thank you so
that's an
issue cuz it may turn out that
she's you
know I don't believe in God or
she's
that hey this is what I did
cause if she
has a husband this is the
problem she's
got some drawbacks she's got a
husband
who's a professor of law this
guy has
got to go to the black scraggly
goatee
not a nice trim go to get
scraggly
goatee a big ponytail no no yeah
ponytail and he wears a bowtie
all the
time what does he do he's a
professor of
law and he teaches teaches law
uh-huh
and he's got the bowtie in the
ponytail
and the spinning you know the
holy Mises
it's like this guy is and they
did they
do not share names she's so
she's of the
of the which is a giveaway of
some sort
yet I'm not taking my husband's
name I
probably won't be married to
him that
long why should I or something
like that
Amy Kony Barrett is married to
Bob
Barrett and Kony is her old
less old
name uh-huh so there's that so
then we
have this a problem and there's
a third
party which I don't have in
handy I've
been doing some research on him
who's
another a possible
guy but I think they're gonna
have to
put a woman in because of
Ginsburg being
a woman so it's gonna be what
it's gotta
be one of these two there's no
other
real challengers these are the
two best
okay well just based on what
I'm seeing
I think I had not heard of John
Larson
even being in in the race for
this I
hadn't even honestly considered
talking about a replacement for
Ginsberg
just yet yeah you gotta be
ahead of the
game but yeah but Larson you
know you
could put her on Law & Order
right now
boom in that done she looks the
part
I think that's that'll do it um
and then
Lucy okay well while we're on
that then
we saw general mattis resign
yes yes
about that yeah you want to
just talk
about his replacement real
quick do you
have any any thoughts I do I
have have
the military's thoughts yeah
stars the
stripes in the military times
and looked
at what they thought yeah that
I think
the guy the best guy would be
the guy
who's the deputy the guy who
was the
executive from Boeing right
who's the
deputy that's the guy you want
you want
that kind of guy cuz he keeps
the whole
thing moving and you know as
you can see
well maybe we should take a
step back
before we get to that what
happened the
minute Trump said
all right pulling out of Syria
pulling
out of Afghanistan everybody in
Washington DC just lost their
crap
including fragments maybe even
especially Fox News because I
know my
god we're gonna do this is this
is the
machine you can't remove them
shit does
not works it'll move the machine
and I have a couple funny clips
about it
do you want to start with
something they
have a bunch of clips I got
Panetta
bitching let's do some bitching
first I
start with bitch number one
yeah this is
this is actually Fox this is I
think Fox
and Friends and Sarah Sanders
of course
calls him the president I'm
sorry I was
just gonna say one thing that
was in a
tweet somebody pointed this on
I thought
was Grace's drop has done
nothing to
change the Republican Party but
he's
done everything to change the
Democrat
Party they are now all war
mongers yeah
okay then I'll flip him around
yes war monger so we'll start
with
Nicole Wallace from MSNBC
here's what
she had to say I mean it is he
someone
is is depending I mean you're
basically
describing a US military that
does not
listen to the
commander-in-chief is that
what's going on well no I don't
think
that they don't listen to them
I think
that they listen to their
credit I'm
cheered if you're telling me
that the
military doesn't listen to him
senior
Pentagon officials who were
alarmed by
the news who had the rug pull
who were
communicated as recently as
yesterday
that our commitment was solid
the president seems to have his
foreign
policy run through Moscow or
Turkey or
other countries yeah so she is
just
cheered she's cheered I don't
know if
you can be cheered but she's
cheered if
the military no longer listens
to the
commander in chief that's she's
cheered
by that so I guess she likes
that and
then we have the Fox people
just taking
it many steps further the
president has
been talking about this since
the
campaign he brought it up again
eight
months ago six months ago he's
wanted to
bring our troops home look our
goal and
the president's purpose of
continuing to
be in Syria what's to defeat
Isis we've
defeated the territorial
Caliphate
ninety nine percent of Isis has
been
wiped out of Syria the
president doesn't
want to be in the middle of
another
civil war in the Middle East
and put
American lives on the line for
that
purpose he wants to bring the
men and
women
of our armed forces home and
that's what
he judged to do and that's
exactly what
he's doing
Sarah he's giving Russia a big
win
Vladimir Putin praised him he
also is
doing exactly what he criticized
President Obama for doing he
said
President Obama is the founder
of Isis
he just rebounded Isis because
30,000
men there and their striking
Theory
founded Isis this is fantastic
every one going once war
apparently in
them in the mainstream media
everybody
all sides war war war war war
just want
war I don't care just we need
to be
fighting somewhere is there's
no good
and if you go ahead it's just
ridiculous
and just for historical context
when
maddis was brought in to manage
the
Afghanistan region under no
that was
under Bush Rumsfeld was the
Secretary of
Defense when he came in he was
hated
hated by the left because
mainly because
this is a news clip from
al-jazeera just
play a little bit from this
must have
been around that a little bit
later than
to thought maybe 2006 or
something this
is the man who will take over
one of the
u.s. military's most
challenging jobs
General James Madison this is
what he's
best known for fun to fight I
like to
shoot him oh yeah I like that
getting to
brawl and shoot those guys I
don't get
it's like a they they miss
handle women
so that's good to go kill him
it was not
really what anyone wanted to
hear at the
time he's not on the on the
left and no
one really but now now now we
forget all
that we're very good at it we
forget all
about the a-hole who want to
just go
blow people up and and now huh
I also
heard that this is a story that
I heard
is that mattis had consultants
in who
were saying you know you could
run for
president in 2020
I'm not kidding and so part of
the issue
was they allotted to reversed
our
generals who all kind of
believe that
maybe cuz I did it right well
apparently
he had the consultants in the
president
got wind of it he's like you
know you
wonder one if you want to run
that's
cool but I can't have you in
for two
years while you're ultimately
gonna run
against me so you gotta go
that's that's
the story I heard from our
military
intelligence that actually
makes sense
but I think it's a combination
of things
perfect timing of course you
know with
the pullout in Syria perfect
timing
well one of course you wanted
to stay in
Syria forever
there's also the issue with the
chief of
staff he didn't like mark Maile
the guy
that we like headed that the
army taking
over a chief of staff of the
Joint
Chiefs he wanted David Goldfine
who's
the Air Force guy and I would
challenge
anybody in the military and
civilians
whatever taped go on the
Wikipedia and
look up Maile and look up
Goldfine and
put their bio side-by-side and
ask
yourself why anybody would want
Goldfine
so there was that there was
that issue
there was the Miley issue and
there's a
third issue I'm trying to think
what it
was that he had a run-in with I
mean
mattis was in total
disagreement I'll
come up with it before we're
done with
our Clips but it wasn't a good
match to
begin with but let's play the
kind of
the background Iran maddest
quits leaves
snarky note PBS resignation
letter was
noteworthy for its absence of
any praise
for president Trump instead he
cited his
differences with the commander
in chief
writing you have the right to
have a
secretary whose views are
better aligned
with yours we are going to a
point mad
dog matters as our Secretary of
Defense
the seeds of discord were
present when
mr. Trump announced in 2016
that the
retired four-star Marine
general would
run the Pentagon mattis has
made it
known that he hates the
nickname mad dog
after that he repeatedly
disagreed
publicly with the president by
supporting NATO and other
alliances
criticizing worsen interference
in US
elections and opposing the
president's
withdrawal from the Iran
nuclear deal
and transgender military ban
then came
mr. Trump's sudden decision
this week to
withdraw US troops from Syria a
move
mattis strongly disagreed with
at the
White House last night press
secretary
Sarah Sanders acknowledged the
rift he
and the president have a good
relationship but sometimes they
disagree
the president always listens to
the
members of his national
security team
but at the end of the day it's
the
president's decision to make
maddis
plans to leave the Pentagon at
the end
of February the other issue I
was
thinking about besides the mark
Miley
and all these other
disagreements is the
Pentagon budget failed they
tried me the
Audion of the audit fought it
yes their
audit Department he's the head
of the
Pentagon he's the one
responsible he's
the one who didn't get the
audit done
right another another good
point and
nobody's talking about that
well nobody
wants to know about it
including this
president I don't think he
really cares
just wants to make sure we
spend a lot
on it and that were the biggest
and the
baddest
so here's here we have PBS had
a lot of
this because judy has gone off
the rails
I really think that she misses
Gwen Gwen
too and I miss Gwen's balance
she's got
no she's completely unbalanced
she's
she's starting to shake she's
she's
really Trump hater it's
unbelievable so
we have these we have Panetta
and
Richard Haass so Panetta former
CIA
director former Secretary of
Defense for
Obama yes and Hoss was a hot
day is been
a lot of different things but
he's the
head of the Council on Foreign
Relations
these are the guys you want for
a
balance story on PBS so let's
listen to
Panetta on mattis Leon Panetta
to you
first your reaction when you
learned
that secretary mattis had
resigned I
thought it was a sad day for
the nation
to lose an outstanding defense
secretary
who was well experienced with
regards to
national security policy and
also
believed in the basic
principles of of
leadership of strength of our
alliances
of understanding who our
adversaries are
principles that I think have
served this
country well since World War
two to lose
that experience to lose
somebody with
those principles I think
increases the
danger in this country of not
having the
ability to deal with a lot of
danger
points in the world today and
that that
concerns me because I think it
puts our
nation at risk what did he just
say
other than
orange man bad what did he
actually say
okay nothing I thought was what
goes
with the follow-up that she
goes to Haas
and asks him specifically do
you think
the nation's at risk and which
is what
Panetta said we're all at risk
some for
some reason she thinks so too
you can
tell where she asked the
question this
is the Hoss not answer this
question and
informated way Richard Haas you
agree it
puts the nation at risk well
it's
certainly a major loss he was
experienced he was sober he
represented
sober hey we want our military
men drunk
she was sober he represented
essentially
a traditional foreign policy
view for
foreign policy I'll admit my
bias I
think it served this country
extraordinarily well for
three-quarters
of a century
nice changing in fact he goes
on and
discusses us a little bit more
this is haast now discussing
the Trump
pull out of Syria which is like
again
we're listening to the head of
the
Council on Foreign Relations so
he's you
know definitely yes he must be
against
it gets me why we're doing
there in the
first place but he pulls the
same stunts
that these other guys have
pulled we did
it on the last show I had a
clip that
was similar to this where this
is some
sort of a abnegation of our our
responsibility when we're not
even
supposed to be in Syria it was
only
gonna be a temporary thing to
begin with
three months three months three
months
you know no house yep but here
listen to
him go on and on has again what
I think
is a radical view of this
country's
relationship with the world and
that
will be heard far beyond the
Middle East
I would think people in Taiwan
in South
Korea in Europe they saw what
this
president did and why would any
American
ally why would any country
dependent on
America somehow believe that
something
like this couldn't happen to
them we
have shredded our reputation for
reliability and dependability
and that
might be the the greatest
consequence of
the last few days what's
interesting
about this yeah go ahead
what is he talking about we
who's what
Li did we screw now we're
leaving Syria
no but he's won well that's not
what
he's saying I think to me what
he's
saying is hey if you're Japan
you know
you should be worried because
you know
we could just pull right out
and we want
you to have a base who won't
protect you
I think that's what he's trying
to say
we only have 800 bases around
the world
so now I personally I like it
I've been
advocating to get out of
everything for
as long as I can remember and
also
there's there was no this is
all under
the phony baloney although it
wasn't at
the time but under the 9/11
regulation
of the president I'm still
under a state
of emergency presidents can put
us into
war situations without the
only body who has the authority
to do
that which is the House of
Representatives well I know
some of the
degrees with you well there's a
lot of
people would agree with me so
far as a
clip Oh Ron Paul of course yes
yeah in a
way why should it be
complicated we were
in a place we shouldn't have
been in the
war that's unconstitutional
doesn't make
any sense we don't know why
we're there
we don't know when we're
supposed to
come home and finally we have a
president in this case doing
his a curry
said he wants to do and they go
nuts so
I guess we shouldn't be shocked
shocked
I'm shocked that there would be
these
factions yeah and I think you
know this
is you know Washington showing
its
colors here are the neo cons
the main
proponents of the unitary
executive he's
the decider he's the
commander-in-chief
then when he finally acts as a
decider
acts as a commander-in-chief in
a
constitutional way removing
troops from
somewhere they shouldn't go all
of a
sudden he didn't tell us he
didn't ask
us he's not listening to us
what's going
on here the war is a dumb war
and it's
unconstitutional and then they
criticize
them for doing it this is this
is one
place where a president that
has an even
a memory of the Constitution
did the
right thing yeah exactly
exactly it's
also a nice time to pay
attention to the
people who are adamantly
against this
pullout
and just need to note their
names they
may all be against it but
really listen
to the you know particularly
the media I
agree you know pay attention
who's
really against it cuz those
those that's
the enemy right there well it
and it's
also part of spot to spook yes
well it
seems like everybody's on board
not that
that wouldn't be possible too
well the one clip I do have
that I think
is interesting because it was
it was
offset from the Judy's report
on Trump
leaving Syria and firing mattis
mm-hmm
and it seems to if you just
kind of
dissect it it seems to explain
what
really went on here is that you
know
they think it's like Trump
decided let's
just leave
when it is quite possible that
he did a
bunch of deals in the
background cuz he
was floating around especially
with
Turkey to get himself getting
our guys
out and put somebody else in to
finish
the job because there's two
factors in
this turkey situation and this
is
explained on PBS newshour but
it's not
as a separate story that's got
nothing
to do with anything
but play this leaving Syria
Elder Wand
deal with Trump Turkey's
president ray
gypped i afforda wanted a
welcomed us
plans to leave syria that came
is the
Associated Press reported the
president
Trump made the decision after
speaking
with Erdogan last week in
Istanbul the
Turkish leader said he promised
the
president that Turkey will
finish off
Islamic state militants we will
be
working on our operational
plans to
eliminate Islamic state
elements which
are said to remain intact in
Syria in
line with our conversation with
President Trump in other words
over the
next months we will adopt an
operational
style geared toward this goal
her Dewan
also said that turkey is
delaying a
planned operation against us
back
Kurdish forces in Syria
meanwhile the
Kurds warned their fighters may
have to
leave the fight against Isis to
confront
any Turkish attack yeah now
there's
obviously deals happening here
and I
think for Trump it was you know
what
just stop all the crap about
Saudi
Arabia you know take a back
seat on the
khashoggi thing
I'll give you Syria I don't
care anyway
I'll give you that yes it seems
that
cut-and-dry I think so too and
I think
he had to protect the Kurds and
all the
protections consistent this is
part of
the deal because it's part of
the yeah
he said oh no we won't to go
after the
Kurds right away we're gonna
hang back
they'll go back to where they
came from
and since and leave Syria and
the Turks
are gonna come in full force to
take
these remove the rest of these
idiots
these Isis idiots out there's
one other
that's that their whole thing
up that'll
be oh my god and maybe some
peace
at least for us well there's
two other
things that about well first of
all
there was an interesting ad in
recoil
magazine which is some like
aerospace
defense magazine and it was the
remember
the old Blackwater logo with
like the
claw Blackwater of the
mercenaries yeah
Eric Prince
they said to get a full-page ad
I don't
know what that cost in recoil
magazine
but completely black the
Blackwater logo
and then just the words we are
coming
and the thinking is that pull
out of
Syria but certainly Afghanistan
is all
kind of surface stuff like
let's bring
art let's bring our boys and
girls home
but in the meantime we do send
in
Blackwater Zee Academy over
there called
today to still you know have
the covert
operations that we need when we
need
them like maybe for the poppy
fields
apparently we still need him at
the
poppy fields something like
that and
then here and this is just
turkey in
general a new update came out
for
iPhones and iPads I don't use
one
anymore but I do have this it
is iOS
12.1 - and it includes bug
fixes for
your phone a - in particular
fixes bugs
with ECM activation and
addresses an
issue that could affect cellular
connectivity in Turkey
I'm thinking wait a minute what
what
system is turkey using that
could be an
issue and I went to look for it
and the
first thing you hit right off
the bat is
from the when was this this was
I think
a couple weeks ago that Turkey
president
Tayyip Erdogan announced today
the
country would boycott all
electronics
from the United States in
particular
targeting specifically Apple
immense the
rising trade tensions between
the two
countries
so it may just be coincidence
but you
have a country threatening to
boycott a
device specifically and then
they do an
update with something that is
fixes
something not working on the
Turkish
cellphone Network to me it
sounds like
maybe they inserted something
to make it
work better on the Turkish
cellphone
Network like they might do with
China
or maybe they turned off
something they
turned off the spy device no I
think
that no because Turkey said we
don't
we're gonna boycott your phones
well if
it's gonna make the phone work
more like
a spy device well why wouldn't
they just
keep boycotting the phone how
about if
it's working as a spy device
for them
for the Turkish girl for the
Turkish the
Chinese have some special up
doors so
they can spy on them yes exactly
well yeah they got you some but
the
Gulen ist's yeah all right I
can buy
that that could be part of it
right I'd
like to know more about it I'd
like to
know more about it I'm very
interested
in well then it gets you
negative
hearing I can't accuse apple of
anything
because you know that could get
us deep
platformed yeah
well I think something's up now
turning
a turkey into a major trading
partner
with the United States is not a
bad idea
I still admire for my visit
there the
glassware that is made in
Turkey is
world-class and it never gets
out of
Turkey or I mean it does but
not into
the United States and it's so
cheap said
it would be it's just incredibly
competitive and there's a lot
of stuff
that they it might benefit both
countries and maybe Trump's
doing a good
thing here overall giving
Turkey half of
Syria and well it's you know
he's not
just giving it to Turkey he's
giving it
to Russia is giving it to Iran
and I
think is mended to end Syria
yes thank
in Syria their own country and
fine let
everyone fight it out you know
let
everyone run around you know it
was the
friend she wanted us to do that
I mean
that's really where it all
comes stems
from from total oil and and I
haven't
heard anything about French
that's in
the Vietnam to if you recall
yeah not
from firsthand experience but
yeah yeah
I've seen the Kenz brick Ken
Burns
documentary but it wasn't
really spelled
out that well lie about it so
it seems
to me like what that's just
what it seems you go on with
that but
first of all the Russians were
always in
Syria the word EU sport yes so
what's
new about Russia being there
nothing
nope
No so now all of a sudden is a
big deal
Russia's pulling this Trump
strings yeah
well I'm I'm just anti-war so
I'm happy
with it I don't see any reason
you know
I understand what are what are
uh what
our business is here in the
United
States I'm not ashamed of it
I'd leave
if I was but you know we create
war
stuff that's what we spend the
most
money on that's what the most
people and
working in an industry and of
course
they are the other side of it
health
care but we make war stuff
there is also an eleven billion
dollar
contract Erewhon agreed to four
more of
our stuff as a part of the deal
with
Trump you know and then so the
same goes
for Saudi Arabia you know one
hundred
and ten hundred and twenty
billion
dollars says like once you guys
take our
stuff we'll help you operate it
and kill
each other and we'll just sit
here with
our own own oil that could be
an actual
strategy
it's not a bad strategy I just
like to
know why the Lib Joe is out
there are
all pro-war all of a sudden
because the
anti-trump is just whatever he
does you
gotta be against him no matter
what your
position was in the past and
now it's
get getting to an interesting
point
where people who should be
pacifists and
and want peace on earth harb
advocating
for the exact opposite and
that's what's
funny that's why he gotta keep
an eye on
who's doing who's saying what
cuz you
got to remember what they're
doing
white musing
I think we could well this
anger kind of
crossed over with the wall and
some
shoehorning ramming through of
the five
billion dollar budget last
minute
through the house which of
course that
has has to go through the
Senate which
seems impossible but it was I
don't know
what the move is but the way it
played
out in the m5m is Trump was
kind of
hanging back he was defeated
because you
know Nancy and Chuck went into
the Oval
Office beat the crap out of him
he was
like who but then it was
apparently
people like Ann Coulter and and
anyone
on Fox who were telling the the
president that he had no teeth
lost his
manhood and he should stand up
stand up
for the wall and hilariously
that's how
it was interpreted by Jeffrey
Toobin
constitutional lawyer worst
that guy on
CNN and Republicans are
complaining
Jeffrey that they can't figure
out
exactly where the president
stands they
meet with him they hear what
he's saying
but he's not telling them I'm
gonna sign
this but I'm not gonna sign
that well
what they should be doing
obviously is
checking with Ann Coulter
because
apparently she's the President
of the
United States as far as this is
concerned I mean this was a
deal this
deal was agreed to Mitch
McConnell who
was nobody's idea of a flaming
liberal
Paul Ryan everybody thought
this deal
was done and you know what the
president
lost on the wall because he
didn't have
the votes but then you know
Laura
Ingraham and Ann Coulter started
challenging the president's
manhood and
and the the House Republicans
started
stamping their feet and the
president
decided no no I'm gonna scream
and yell
and shut down the government
even though
I still don't have the votes so
I mean I
guess and Coulter has to figure
out how
this is all going to end
because she's
the person who is driving the
the
federal government at this
point god
help us god help us lunatic and
by the
way what is he I mean this is
just a
promotion for Ann Coulter yeah
she's
been misquoted
and they just user the user is a
whipping boy they like to throw
around
but also the manhood thing that
came
from some overheard
conversation of
Nancy Pelosi yes exactly
so I'm not quite sure how this
got I
mean I didn't follow any of
acts that I
barely watch that kind of stuff
so here is here's shields his
Brooks and
shields by the way they they
took Brooks
away and they put in his
Gershon guy so
now his shields and and a worse
shields
this PBS has gone off the rails
I mean
they don't have any balance
whatsoever
anymore but listen to shields
misquoting
Coulter hours away from yet
another
government shutdown what does
it say
about the way things are
working right
now in our government well
manat well
Judy I mean we went from a week
ago you
recall in the White House which
seems
eons ago when Senator Schumer
and
Democratic host leader and
speaker
Pelosi met with the president
and the
president you know mantle he
stepped up
and said I'll take the shot to
show it
shutdown you know be happy to
do it on
my put it to me then to an
agreement
with the Senate that it would
stay they
fund it through the new year
and then
come back and revisit it and
then
immediately a reaction a
revulsion if
you would from the president's
longest
and strongest supporters TV
commentators
on the right such as Rush
Limbaugh and
Coulter and said that this was
a sellout
that on the wall and Coulter
going so
far as to say his presidency
was a joke
and that he had scammed the
American
people oh so now they brought
into
compass oh this is all
Republican right
wing talk people Sochi and now
they're
now they're important there's
something
more behind this I don't know
what it is
yet but there's no reason for a
guy like
this - I mean okay you can talk
about
Ann Coulter so that was maybe
some where
the impetus but you bring in
Rush
Limbaugh I've heard other you
know of
course they bring in Hannity
and Carlson
any anybody they can from
mainly from
Fox News
what's the there's there's more
to that
first of all let's make the
correction
here that she never said the
presidency
is a joke
she had a longer comment she
says if
after four years he doesn't get
the wall
built then the presidency will
be a joke
uh-huh that's a lot different
than the
presidencies a joke and a scam
I don't
know where you got even got
that part
but there is a I don't know
maybe
they're trying to separate the
herd or
they're trying to do something
dividing conquer the right wing
I think
they're going for a massive
cable D
platform D platform fox news
from every
cable station in the platform
your boy
and hey who's my boy your boy
is hold on
I'll tell you your boy that's
not your
boy your boy is savage Michael
Savage
kicked off in New York so he
effectively
lost his his New York affiliate
yeah
that's a huge issue that's a
huge
problem
oh it's a major problem he's
now he's
he's he's deployed effectively D
platformed from national radio
you don't
have New York you have almost
nothing I
come from that business a New
York's a
big deal it's the deal it's New
York ed
threw him out just causing a
problem by
the way I think that it may
cause more
trouble for WGN this for any
well but
you know who they're bringing
in and
this is what I found
interesting Ben
Shapiro
Oh God Ben Shapiro is
unlistenable Ben
Shapiro is a shill he is a
Hollywood
creation by admission
he's a Hollywood creation and
now he's
got he's got the seven stations
he's
cleared in New York he's
cleared in DC's
cleared in Chicago these are
good
stations mmm ABC New York and
WLS
Chicago he's got Atlanta he's
got KABC
Los Angeles this is a massive
change but
Shapiro was also not a not a
pro Trump
guy no he was anti Trump I
think he is a
never Trump ER but he's really
being put
he's he's being positioned in
he can't
handle it yes he can
I don't think so you you yes
you can it
doesn't number people to grab
that three
hours of talk every day five
days a week
a year every small number of
people
they're all semi nuts
okay well that not that I'm not
interested in that part of it
I'm he's
being put in here he has zero
radio
experience that I know of and
now he's
like I said he can't Haley
that's what
you do what you just said is
but it
doesn't matter because he'll
kill he'll
stay in there to propagate the
message
look what's Lucas he's
replacing Michael
Savage he's nobody's gonna
listen to his
show it's unimportant it's very
important it's not WG there's
money
involved that's very important
okay
first of all you're wrong
because the
Ben Shapiro has quite an
audience on
online and people like him a
lot of
people like him a lot of
moderate people
like him I think he he has a
following I
think it will translate to his
radio
show but it will effectively
change the
audience that listens to what
they think
would be right-wing talk radio
which it
won't be because it's it's just
not what
he's not he's he's in there
he's in he's
more left-wing than right-wing
and it's
which doesn't work very well on
the
radio I'm agreeing with you but
they're
gonna give it a damn good shot
with this
kid I think he's gonna believe
Monica
Crowley and some of these
others that
just do not draw the draw the
audience I
know what you're saying about
he does
have an audience you're right
but a
large massive audience is very
hard to
control and very hard to
attract and he
is annoying hey I had this
argument at
home about the guy so you don't
have to
tell me this
but people like him he has a
message
that is kind of down the middle
and it's
supplanting again going back
toward the
original questions like what's
happening
why are we picking on people
it's - it's
to get rid of them it's time -
deep
platform all of these people
well it's a
good try you can go go for it I
mean did
you know the joke is of course
you what
Savage did
why he's doing a podcast yeah
he's doing
a podcast is all you New
Yorkers listen
to my podcast and I think a lot
of them
will because I think I think if
anybody's gonna drive the
podcasting
side of the industry it could
be him
thank you Michael
now yeah yeah we need more
competition
good I want you I did we don't
company
we don't we we don't have any
real
competition now I want to
mention
something about five six years
ago I
think it was and I ever since
then I
banished
I used your reaction you don't
even
remember this I'm absolutely
sure of it
I played a ben shapiro clip on
this show
around six years ago and you
went nuts
really yes you hated the guy
you didn't
like his but you didn't like
anything
about me I've never said that
no no play
me the tape
it was like you were so worked
by this
clip that I Nev never played a
bench
trick do you have the clips
since it's a
lot too long ago I probably do
have it
I'll see if I can find it and
we'll play
it again and see what your
reaction is
but what was he doing six years
ago your
react your reaction is the
general
public's reaction to a guy like
this now
maybe six years ago maybe he
look he
went to a complete change he
went
through you know wardrobe hair
makeup
the whole thing you know he's
got he's
good for radio he's got a bit
yeah he's
got a big-time agent yeah it is
it
really is that's what you get
with an
ingre ham that's what you get
with these
you know Sean Hannity it's a
certain
look it's a certain type but
he's a wolf
in sheep's clothing I'm trying
to see if
my brother Nathaniel let me see
if I can
find your your shapiro clip
from six
years ago you might be at a
shapiro
might not hmm okay well that's
not
helpful then I mean you'd look
at look
your search engine let me see
2014 maybe
it's five years ago ben shapiro
on guns ben shapiro guns more
morality
socialism narcissism egomaniacs
ben shapiro on Jews now that was
seventeen uh no I don't have
now I don't
know that's for to drop it well
you
brought it up I think I think
Ben
Shapiro radio is gonna be a
fail and
it'll be fat faster than weed
okay I
think it will be successful and
you will
eat crow I will refuse to eat
crow crows
have a very noble bird
uh how did we get onto this we
were
talking about the these guys
going off
on Colt or yeah and meanwhile
we had I
played the shield's clip where
he makes
all these assertions so then I
expect
this guy Gershon from the Guapo
wawapo
comes on and he's talking about
this is
the same the topic is about the
way
Trump handled the budget issue
to the
point where we're at an impasse
where
does the fault lie well big
picture this
shows how easy the President of
the
United States is to manipulate
I mean he
had agreed to a deal then some
of his
you know toughest supporters
Limbaugh
Ann Coulter and some of the
team in the
Fox News morning programs came
out
against it and he changed his
view like
a puppet on a string it was
really
extraordinary a sign of weak
leadership
and I could bet you that Russia
and
China and North Korea look at
something
like that about how easy this
president
is to manipulate so that's the
context
for this the you know I so I
don't think
that he can make a particularly
good
case having agreed already to
something
rather reasonable that you know
the 30
that he changed his view with
good
reason he can't make that case
what kind of balance is this
when it comes to the PBS yeah
there's no balance there are
people that
could rationalize and maybe
give us some
perspective from a different
you know
point of view but no PBS
they've already
done this with with the global
warming
and they've admitted it they
cannot have
it and gory even tried it them
before
even thinking about it you
cannot have
anybody on a arguing against
you can't
have anyone against the global
warming
thesis on the show they've
already said
that so do you have two people
on
there's no balance they're both
going to
say the same thing right now
they've
done it with the shields and
Brooks
segment where you got shields
who hates
Trump with a guy who hates
Trump more is
that what your balance is real
haze and
kind of subtle hate maybe Nitin
doesn't
hate him so much but this guy
hates him
a lot and that's what there's
your
balance as balance there isn't
there if
I were you I'd return my
donation and my
tote bag luckily I don't donate
to them
let's listen to another
globalist mazie
Hirono who they like to call
because you
know no one ever heard of mazie
Hirono
of Hawaii that's because she's
pretty
much an idiot yes but she says
fun
things I was very distressed by
it of
course and he made it very
clear that he
and Presidential we're not on
the same
page in terms of their world
views and
of course Trump's war wheel is
is very
how shall I say whack because
she comes
up with it himself these last
two days I
feel as though we have been on
a roller
coaster with him at the
controls because
first there's the announcement
that
we're getting out of Syria
where we know
that he didn't discuss it with
anybody
including general mattis no
giving a
huge Christmas present to Putin
and to
Iran because I've been very
focused on
what's going on as a border
they make an
announcement that people who
come who
are coming through for asylum
purposes
have to wait on the Mexican
side where
there are huge safety concerns
for so
many of the children
and then of course the Senate
did the
responsible thing last night by
keeping
government running passing this
bill by
a voice vote and only to have
presidential get all worked up
because
he's got some right wing loud
people
yelling at him on Fox News and
suddenly
he says well I don't think I'm
gonna
sign it so it is very true that
he will
bring on the shutdown and he
has to take
responsibility for it any
effort on his
part to blame the Democrats
will be such
bullshit that as I said before
I would
hardly gave it a stamp it I
think she
said bullshit I give her points
for the
bullshit yeah but there's that
there's
the the clear talking point you
know
it's like the crazy people on
Fox News
it's and you know there go not
on the
same page every Ally yeah I I
think
really this has more to do with
a
serious media offensive on a
competitor
in the space you know Mike your
theory
and the Michael Savage stuff
presented
subscriber but I like the
Michael Savage
removal from ABC in New York is
an
advertiser related issue you
know they
went after his advertisers
yeah well they do that well
yeah well
they were successful that's my
point is
that we could do every show we
can bring
one example of that if that's
the
problem with the media today
right but
it but when it's working and
let's see
how it goes you know we'll see
there's
too much of this at the same
time it's
too much of the same stuff I
think
there's more there's a little
more
behind it but could be wrong we
need to
talk about deep platforming in
general
because I do we have a couple
of things
to discuss we'll do that in a
moment but
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to the
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John well
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he put a lot of art up yeah I
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we do have a few people to
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package well let's say this is
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Nikki lo le I think lu le l o e
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Oh his behalf that make might
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I'm not aware of how it works
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Nikki kidding all right
obviously i
reaiiy read the New York Times
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Alex Brewer in Nags Head North
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2 5 2 3 4 5 7
uh there's Alex of ignite films
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night
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they did it but one did five
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he probably has less they're
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the likelihood of listening to
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I want to thank all these folks
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for us goat and Christmas
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cool because we're very goat
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crashing show with a great
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medley yes yeah it'll be good
one
d platforming yes I want to
talk about D
platforming for a moment and
this I think it came we were
talking
maybe I should play this this
clip first
actually
this is about 5g
yeah I do want to play this
actually
because you were deep
platformed from PC
Magazine before right if we're
basically
just questioning 5g technology
well I
wasn't even that what I did is
I wrote a
column about how many people
were
questioning it I wasn't
questioning it
and I outlined all these
different
things and then I made the
assertion
that this could become a
problem for
people promoting 5g and
interestingly
AT&T announced just this week
that they
would be updating their phones
so if you
have 18 T on your Android phone
or your
iPhone you will within the new
year
receive a little notification
or it says
4G LTE it'll say 5g e which
stands for
evolution which means it's not
5g it's
bullcrap it's marketing but
these guys
old crap but they but they're
stupid
this is the possibly the
stupidest thing
you can do to gain market share
in
unproven technology that is not
rolled
out I mean unproven in
certainly from a
health perspective but unproven
in many
areas they want to be the first
cuz you
know t-mobile is trying to get
out there
be first yeah foam finger where
AT&T but
when you hear about some of the
testimony going on about 5g
such as dr.
Sharon Goldberg that I have
here she's
an internal medicine physician
and
professor and she's testifying
here
about the possible dangers of a
low
electromagnetic radiation
associated
with the 5g telephony networks
wireless
radiation has biological
effects period
this is no longer a subject for
debate
when you look at PubMed and the
peer-reviewed literature these
effects
are seen in all life forms
plants
animals insects microbes in
humans we
have clear evidence of cancer
now there
is no question we have it
evidence of
DNA damage cardiomyopathy which
is the
precursor of congestive heart
failure
neuropsychiatric effects so 5g
is not a
conversation about whether or
not these
by alive
cool effects exist they clearly
do we've
been sitting on the evidence
for EMR and
chronic disease for decades and
now we
are seeing all these epidemics
appearing
diabetes is the first epidemic
I think
most of you know the statistics
one in
three American children will
become
diabetic in their lifetime and
if
they're Hispanic females the
number is
one in two so what does this
have to do
with wireless radiation Wireless
radiation and other
electromagnetic
fields such as magnetic fields
and dirty
electricity have been clearly
associated
with elevated blood sugar and
diabetes
that is what the peer-reviewed
literature says it is not
opinion the
closer you live to a cell tower
the
higher your blood glucose so
the idea
with small cells of putting the
cells
closer to people's homes and
bedrooms
scientifically is very
dangerous and
from an economic perspective
it's
dangerous and you may not know
this I
was shocked to find this out
but the way
you create a diabetic diet ease
in rats
in the lab is by exposing them
to 2.4
gigahertz and this is not for
long-term
exposure the other epidemics
that
clearly linked from the science
with
electromagnetic radiation or
related to
mental health and this is this
is
straight from PubMed this isn't
my
opinion this is science so we
have three
epidemics but clearly they're
essentially one epidemic we
have a
deterioration of mental health
in the
United States so and these
epidemics are
our suicide epidemic epidemics
in
violent course of shootings and
the
opioid epidemic these are facts
these
are and these are things that
have just
been glossed over by the
wireless
industry and I really don't
have time to
talk about them in five minutes
I wish I
did but we need to examine our
epidemics
in the context of our EMF
exposures now
I want to believe all this but
I have to
say listening to her with its
PubMed
peer reviewed its science the
science is
in no-questions-asked shut up
slave I'm
a little skeptical about it now
yeah
what do you think what do you
think I
know I don't have any first-hand
knowledge of any this I do know
I have a
number of friends that were on
the cell
phones too long and they're all
dead
because of the cell phone I
heard all I
know is it seems unlikely that
they
would have been dead otherwise
I don't
know dude I mean you can take
any
perspective you want on this
the lot
there's but there's like a
number of
what there's a couple of
professors who
want to Cal it has a web page
filled
with documents about this mm-hmm
apparently it's being studied
to death
and most of these things get
suppressed
and that concerns me that
concerns me
more than what she says and
she's not
saying the science isn't because
everybody else says she's full
of crap
well the science is in on the
other side
the thing that that bugged me
about her
testimony she's talking about
2.4
gigahertz
that's not 5g is not supposed
to be much
higher is that isn't that in
the 50
gigahertz range there's another
woman
who got deep platform for
writing about
Wi-Fi uh-huh calling it wife
ride yeah
and we do know it's a microwave
oven
frequency that has got all
kinds of
protections around the
microwave oven
and we're slowly microwave being
microwave oven and most of us
have
already disrupted it's not it's
not at
those levels it's no big deal
but it
turns out that that is a big
deal
according to some studies and
they
believe that the microwave
frequency
which is our you know Wi-Fi
everyone has
it you got one probably I was
gonna say
I your feet there I have I have
2.4
gigahertz on my head both sides
my my
hearing aids use a 2.4
gigahertz yes for
the Apple AirPlay line if I
were you I'd
be concerned
I'm very good is that the
diabetes epic
is epidemic is because it's
just the
constant exposures constant
exposure to
this now that that part I think
is
sounds realistic but also maybe
we
should just stop eating junk in
America
that might might help us
separate all
these issues so there's there
still it's
still growing it's it's it's
interest
yes Willa combination is that
now the the 5g is totally
different
stories about business micro
millimeter
wave technology is completely
different
right and this penetrating
stuff and
millimeter wave doesn't
penetrate very
well no which which is why you
need all
the million of these things with
themselves with with millimeter
waves
it's just the very sketchy this
technology is it's like all
technologies
when they first come out there
they
rushed the market so if
somebody can
make a lot of money and we'll
deal with
it later and even and I said on
some
show that I was on I can't
remember the
name of it unfortunately I
should be
able to but I probably lost my
memory
from why fried the I call this
the
potential this whole wireless
revolution
maybe the asbestos of this 21st
century
and all the companies that are
that are
potential for being sued out of
business
includes Intel right
but if this is a problem they
would want
to touch it up for as long as
they could
until they can fix the problem
if they
can fix it at all but they're
rushing
the market with this 5g because
those
guys the big telecom companies
are all
in there they don't care about
the
technology as long as you know
they get
they just want the marketing
angle they
want the investor angle that's
what it
seems like to me as well
yeah trying to run their stock
up trying
to but this could be a two-way
sword
bigger to it because the
two-way sorta
like that they they can get
their
investors can turn on them as
something
bet you know some real something
definitive comes out of like
Washington
the White House let's say about
five G
Trump turns on it for example I
mean is
this real risk so I think so it
comes
down to Marcus really yeah yeah
okay
well then it makes sense that
you got
deep platform for that Jordan
you know
the biggest advertisers in the
United
States are Verizon
t-mobile de Katie's second or
third
those guys that advertise the
most so
that would make sense that a
magazine
like PC Mag has sold out well I
think
they've all sold out
the the number one way I see
these days
for you to get deep platformed
is to
call yourself a creator I would
advise
you don't do it have you
noticed this I
think I may have mentioned it
before I'm
this it really irks me I can't
explain
exactly why but and it's and it
revolves
around the patreon discussion
which for
some reason people are still
incredibly
surprised that patreon does not
stand
for complete free speech but
really for
what their community will will
accept
and oh my goodness this is you
got
kicked off because you know you
didn't
fit within the community and
people are
surprised like patreon owes them
something but every single one
of these
people talks about creators and
I think
it's insulting and I think it's
bad that
to lump every tool on
podcasters and
youtubers and and Scott Adams
calls
himself a creator like it's
just why is
this bothering me can you
please look in
my head doctor Dvorak I don't
know what
is something I think it's
actually the
sound of the word or the word
itself or
the generality about what it is
or maybe
it trivializes or marginalizes
that's
what I use yeah I think maybe
that's it
I'm a podcaster I'm proud to
say I'm a
podcaster it's not a creator
well you create a podcast it
was creator
maybe it's cuz it sounds more
like I'm
God I'm a creator I'm God that's
probably you might see it as
blasphemous
and most of these people
probably do
think they're all that and a
bag of
chips so then maybe that's why
they call
them sir we are the creators I
tell ya
I create media they'll be think
they
call them creatives creatives
I'd also
didn't like that one when I had
the the
agency I despise that - I think
creatives despise it and called
creatives yeah I think it puts
you in a
box yeah I don't know what to
go back to
artists good word habit artist
is well
established
anyway the I just wanted to
mention for
for people who are being deep
lat formed
there is a very thriving
ecosystem if
you're interested in this ball
based
around activity pub and doesn't
you
don't really need to know what
that is
but it's that it's kind of a
simple
technology that allows the one
thing RSS
could never do which is the
publish/subscribe model through
anything
but one huge you know
centralized place
and this is what is loosely
called the
feta verse so if you want a
Twitter like
thing there's a mastodon if you
want
Instagram this pixel fed if you
are
YouTube there's peer tube and
bitch
you'd which work quite well
actually but
none of these not a single one
will get
you the same type of activity
you have
on the the big social networks
such as
Twitter Facebook
Instagram etc and that's mainly
because
there is no m5m feedback loop
so they're
not talking about it and
feeding back
into it and there's no
algorithms so
it's not like the drugs that
you get
when you go into twitter it's
fantastic
if you want to just have a
social
network and interact but it
will never
ever be anything like again
it's just
pure drugs that you get from
from the
algal Algar lized social
networks goggle
eyes right I do have one story
in this
regard oh good one of the guys
that got
deep platform ins became a big
deal yeah
and everyone who even mentions
his name
gets deep platformed including a
pewdiepie bitched about this I
think
he's still on YouTube but he's
not
deeply informed I think he got
kicked
off a patreon oh okay there
he's not the
platform from YouTube they'd be
crazy if
you crazy to do that
no they're not doing that but
he's what
you lost his you know income
streams and
so this sargon of akkad
yeah this is this is the thing
that that
started off the patreon deep
platforming
and apparently huge fans Dave
Rubin and
a bunch of heat erson are big
fans and
then because of this the
platforming of
this guy the British guy I
think yes his
name is Karl Benjamin and he
has this
you know right wing he's a real
brexit
guy and he apparently said
something not
on his pep podcast someplace
else
somewhere along the lines they
accuse
him was saying something years
ago about
something just the n-word I
need to make
a distinction about something
here
because I followed this and I'm
it it's
interesting you bring it to the
show cuz
I finally kind of uninteresting
mainly
cuz I like the way you always
do that
well I mean that I mean dinner
but it's
good you're bringing it up now
because
the story's been around for two
to three
weeks first of all the show the
him the
guy himself I just don't find
interesting it's like okay fine
whatever
he's a British guy what do you
expect
what you don't like the bless
it's not
true what what he did you know
calling
someone a white nigger and I was
supposed to be to show that
basically
the the joy read defense of you
know I
said faggot because he says
faggot then
you know how it feels faggot
but this
wasn't even anything about what
but hold
on that's not the point okay
what's the
point
what don't interrupt me I'll
get to it
eventually Oh like the Zephyr
no patreon is not a platform I
don't get
it maybe a payment platforms oh
well no
no payment platform yes but is
the word
but when I just want to make
sure we
make a distinction YouTube is a
hosting
platform that Twitter is a
hosting
platform Facebook as a hosting
platform
the only thing patreon is is a
financial
exchange but now for some
reason they
talk about their creators like
they own
them there's nothing hosted on
their
system
and they they're just a bunch of
dipshits who take 15% with a
very simple
web application to charge your
credit
card its MasterCard that's the
problem
where I think that's hoodoo
who's doing
there they're processing that
is the
payment platform patreon just a
bunch of
leeches really just
opportunistic
leeches and I don't I'm failing
us every
single time they fall in for
for for for
going along with what is called
a
platform and all of a sudden
you're
there you're their property
they were
talking about people this way
from the
get-go our creators our
platform it's
supposed to do do you consider
PayPal to
be a platform that we're on no
not
really as PayPal call us one of
their
creators no even mention us as
a matter
of fact they should they should
do some
ads for us so you know I'm a
little sick
of this this is like people got
to open
their eyes let's back up a
little bit
you seem to be outraged to an
extreme
first of all except for the two
of us
90% of the podcasts out there
we don't
go to these conventions and all
these
things I mean you've been to a
couple
I've never been to one of them
but we
have people that go there Jen
Brian is a
huge fan of these things and at
these
conventions podcasting
conventions and
whatever there are conferences
they push
this stuff well here's how you
make
money as a podcaster you get on
patreon
and they it's promoted as a as
a way to
make money as a podcast and all
kinds of
people have bought into it and
they only
use patreon many of them are
completely
on patreon only they don't even
think
about the other stuff that we
do and
that other people try to do
which is
what do we need patreon people
have told
us oh you guys should be on
patreon
I've always been worked by this
because
why should we be em what are
they doing
that we can't do ourselves
well there's they got this
website and
if that is what they're talking
about
when they talk about the
platform the
platform is there their website
that you
have and you're mentioned on so
it's
kind of a platform it's you
know I would
I I don't have the objection
you have I
guess I guess it's apples to
oranges
where hit the defense of this
this
brexit brit sargon of akkad is
what i
was doing wasn't on their
platform the
the only analogy that would be
right is
if you were on someone else's
money
platform
he doesn't create content this
is minor
to me I think there's that the
other
issue is the more interesting
one in the
one you should be happy about
but before
I bring that up let's at least
listen to
a guy giving us a rundown of
sargon of
akkad and the story so we have
we know
what we're talking so people
know what
the hell were arguing about
sargon of
akkad if you don't know is he's
got a
youtube channel just under a
million
subscribers he is a political
commentator and this has
nothing to do
with with whether you agree
with him or
not that's not the point the
point is is
that he was making his living
supporting
his family supporting his
children
putting up really good content
some of
the best content on the web and
he was
being supported using patreon
to do this
is this Dave Rubin done with
this some
guy can't remember his name but
he's
just a bread video podcast he's
very
good as to make this happen so
out of
the blue patreon pulled his
account
terminated his account without
any
explanation whatsoever so I dug
into
this and to find tried to find
out
what's going on because there's
a big
brouhaha over this and what I
found out
was 10 months ago sargon of
akkad or
carl said something on a
website podcast
or something like that that
they've
deemed to be offensive and
therefore
even though it was not on the
patreon
site yanked his account right
before
Christmas no explanation he
didn't
violate the Terms of Service
they just deemed that I think
they just
didn't like him we don't like
him we
don't like you we don't like
your
politics therefore we're going
to make
you disappear
okay I realize go ahead I died
I've done
some self-reflection awake good
please
I'll wait for you now I do have
a long
story that Carl himself tells
where he
went to a conference and one of
the
women at the top on the Dyess
called him
out as a douchebag in human
garbage
because who's sitting in the
audience
cuz he she's a feminist and I
guess he
writes negative things about
feminists
game reviewers and so she got
bent out
of shape he protested to the
conference
runners they ended up
apologizing to her
not paying any attention to his
complaint because you're not
supposed to
do that in other words you're
not
supposed to be at on the dice
calling
out members of the audience and
then
they got the attention she made
a wrote
a bunch of articles got the
attention of
paper of a patreon demanding
he'd be
pulled and she got shit throws
a lot of
weight around next thing you
know this
guy's lost all his income now
the the
thing that that stems from
there's we
can play a little bit of this
it's too
long to play the whole thing
but play a
little bit so you can listen to
this guy
so you know what his voice is
now you
know what he's like and why you
probably
don't like him cuz he's a
little bit of
a twit
in June 2017 along with many
other
YouTube creators travel to
Lausanne
that was the end of that clip
for me
craters I'm YouTube creator
Li's to
attend that year's VidCon event
VidCon
bills itself as a community
festival
creator conference and industry
summits
all wrapped up into one we'd
gone there
to have a good time and meet
one another
add VidCon there were public
panels most
of which had not been announced
when we
purchased our tickets and we
attended
one with a polite woman call
anita
sarkeesian a feminist video
game critic
she noticed me and this happened
I had been sitting politely in
the front
row and as you can imagine
abusing the
audience from the stage is a
violation
of vidcon's rules so I filed a
complaint
vidcon okay
unless it's important to play
the rest I
just want to get to my
self-reflection
because let me finish the story
then
with the whole thing would
happen and
this was what we played the
last show we
played Reuben and Peterson who
are both
kind of you know it's the
problem the
real problem stems from the
existence of
patreon and the fact that this
doesn't
need to exist people can do all
the
stuff the patron does
themselves and
their platform or whatever it
is list of
shows that you can subscribe to
it's not
very is not necessarily that
convenient
to the anybody but okay what
happened
was now there's this huge
boycott of
patreon itself by everybody who
sends
them money for anybody and that
hurts at
all creators all the creators
and now
they're getting all bent out of
shape
and they're calling in and
bitching and
moaning and they're talking to
apparently the patreon the they
show how
you got some no no no your face
no it's
the it's the it's the boss of
the video
of the platform protection team
and Ice
Warrior I read the whole
transcript yeah
transcript is funny and it's
resulting
in a lot of people that were
making I
don't know let's say they've
made
$10,000 a month now they're
making six
or five there may they just
getting
getting killed and that's
because of the
reliance on one thing is it's a
real I
think it's a I think was just a
mistake
in judgment to use these guys
in the
first place but okay but this
is all
because of these conferences
that tell
you to do this and these
conferences
that tell you to do that and
they're
just the blind leading the
blind believe
me well I think you're right
that the
the conferences are incredibly
on
helpful and they steer people
in very
traditional ways there's no no
innovation and after
self-reflection I
understand what my issue is I
think I
really had some hope coming
from a quite
a career in mainstream
broadcasting
radio and television when when
podcasting kind of organically
grew them
the the biggest downside is
that it
exploded because of the iPod I
always
found that to be a detractor
and and and
I'd never named it podcasting
Danny
Gregoire as far as I'm
concerned named
at that I think is fantastic it
really
helped a lot but it always tied
it to
the iPod and now we've moved
beyond that
but I had hoped that that
people would
see decentralizing as a way
forward for
the Internet and we've we've in
14 15
years we're right back to in I
think
ground zero
because people are relying now
on all of
these corporate commercial
places for
platforms where you don't need
this now
do you get the algorithmic
amplification
that can explode you virally no
but for
most people you don't even
deserve to to
have an actual audience of any
size or
make any money because you
probably just
make shit I would prefer to see
people
using decentralized systems
building up
core audiences who we've proven
it will
support you to the to the
degree that is
necessary and valid and move
forward
that we got a lot of brain
power smart
people like Rubin and the
Peters and
these are smart guys they're
arguing the
fact that they don't see how
idiotic it
is what they're arguing about
and how
futile it is and how they will
never win
over this instead of promoting
open
source decentralized systems
that are in
play even bit backer you know
you can do
payment systems with crypto and
and
makes it simpler for people I
didn't
think that's my frustration
it's just
why are all these smart people
but I get
to work
I think that's my problem I can
see that
that is your problem you have a
problem
and that's it yeah but this is
not a new
problem with you no but it's
also it
does it just because you have
this
problem doesn't mean that these
issues
aren't real for these people
who have
been I would say it's like the
when they
had the housing mortgage crisis
and then
that one guy on CNBC says all
these
idiots that took out all these
mortgages
screw up screw up deserve to go
go broke
these people that took out these
mortgages during the housing
crisis were
advised to take out these
housing these
mortgages yes by experts
that's podcast conferences they
were
advised by experts to do this
all don't
worry about it you know the
price is
gonna go up you're gonna be
able to
paper they were advised and and
then did
because they were I wouldn't
say they
were stupid cuz you get advised
to do
stuff you don't know anything
about it
yeah you should maybe have to
change
your tires
yeah it looks like then you
need new
tires well okay there's a lot
of advice
out there and because it's bad
advice
you're bent out of shape
no no I'm I I'm not I'm just
frustrated
by over a decade of people
doing the
same stupid things and always
being
surprised when it doesn't work
out or it
works out in a way that is not
expected
to them I yeah as smart people
it's the it's the mind's eye I
was taken
aback when I saw Peterson and
Rubin
doing that video Deb moaning and
groaning about patreon yeah I
think
that's what pushed me over the
edge I'm
like holy crap what are you
what are you
bitching about move on you know
build up
a simultaneity on start
mirroring it
somewhere else where it's just
a lot
harder to be kicked off and
build up the
audience and guess what you
might
actually help a lot of creators
in in
the process
well there you go there's your
idealist
Lee gentle that is it this one
person
who was de platformed which did
show up
in the New York in the New York
Times
but was not discussed in the
way I would
have thought it was this came
out of
what yeah yes sir 23rd yeah
yesterday
Facebook has suspended Jonathan
Morgan
the chief executive of a top
social
media Research Forum firm after
reports
that he and others engaged in
operation
to spread disinformation during
the
special election in Alabama
last year so
the guy who runs the company
that
offered the report that is seen
as the
proof that the Russians
suppress three
million black Americans from
voting has
now now by Facebook's own
Stander's been
accused of the exact same
practice with
the exact same amount of money
a hundred
thousand dollars and they've
deep
platformed him for it but I
guess
everything's still valid with
the report
and we should not just look the
other
way or just not talk about the
report
anymore
that's well there's well that's
irony
that's great irony as well
tastic I love
it
but this I have a three-part I
don't
know what Facebook thinks it's
doing but
they're just in panic mode
it must be having meetings wait
a minute
you said you said Facebook look
like a
bi but no I didn't say it
wasn't a Bab I
didn't find that time at the
stock you
said it would never go away
there's no
replacement there isn't yet
USA Today this is really a
horrible
piece of video and I fixed as
much as
possible to get the the the
interviewers
questions in he talked to a
couple of
middle school kids about social
networks
which one they use and what
they like
and what they feel about it and
here's
his report from his USA Today
website
challenging 2018 would of
course be an
understatement with all the
apologies
and hot water with politicians
how's
that playing with the younger
generation
they couldn't care old people
no like a
lot of my friends have a like
Instagram
but I have no clue any of my
friends I
use Facebook
I don't like snapchat Twitter a
lot of
Twitter but mostly I'm trying to
Instagram then they never use
Facebook
skip over the genre of social
media
they're like oh and Instagram
snapchat
just give over Facebook I just
go on
setting where you can turn it
off but I
feel like it's always watching
you yeah
like as is I have a dome that
you're
staring at me when I'm on it
yeah thank you when I'm making
weird
faces and then like you kind of
think
it's weird that they have screen
recording now so like it watches
everything you do on the screen
but you
like if you wanted to so I'm
like I love
what these you know I have not
read a
report anywhere about this I
don't think
they're wrong as kids like well
you know
you can have screen recording
where they
see everything you're doing on
the
screen hell yeah but it's not
one of the
things discussed in Congress
but these
kids seem to intuitively know
what's
happening and there's a yeah
yes you can
turn it off but the eye is still
watching me 24/7 she's on it so
much
that that she doesn't even want
me
looking at her activities to a
point to
a point where it's like scary
there you
go there's the real issue
there's the children and it's
influenced
by the parents it's fantastic
Oh TG
people
well the kids aren't stupid no
they're
not they're not the UK
government
I think they already deployed
this they
had facial they were testing
facial
recognition in public we're on
the
public and around the
Westminster area
this is this facial recognition
is is
really happening a lot the
Amazons
doorbell what does their doors
they have
a doorbell like ring I guess
whatever it
is and now they're they're
building in
facial recognition but what but
it will
also do facial recognition of
people
just on the street outside your
door
they'll just kill just keep
doing that
Wow
okay well let's get back to
politics
really yeah because that's all
I got
well you have some funny stuff
though I
have Maxine Waters triggered
have you
seen this clip no probably not
every day in every way and the
best way
to do that is to stop talking
about
discrimination and start
talking about
the nation we're coming
together as a
people in spite of what you say
thank
you gentlemen I yield back
gentleman's time has expired
members are
reminded to address their
remarks to the
chair the gentleman from Texas
reserves
gentlelady from California
thank you
very much the gentleman mr.
Kelly please
do not leave because I want you
to know
that I am more offended as an
african-american woman than you
will
ever be and this business about
making
America great again it is your
president
that's dividing this country
and don't
talk to me about the fact that
we don't
understand what happens on the
Ottoman
no I don't that you know I will
not here
okay that we don't understand
that's the
attitude that's been given to a
woman's
time and time again gentlelady
will
suspend the chair wishes to
remind all
members as they are to address
their
remarks to the chair don't you
dare talk
to me like that
and think that somehow women
don't
understand what goes on on the
floor of
Automobile Dealers minded to
direct her
remarks to the chair continue
to do that
I don't appreciate that you did
not
interrupt him when he was
making those
outrageous remarks about him
knowing
more about discrimination then
I know
about discrimination I resent
that and I
resent the remark about making
America
great again he's down here
making a
speech for this dishonorable
president
of the United States of America
having
said that I reserve the balance
of my
time you know I do not yield
not one
second one second not one
second to you
my time my time she is the gift
that
keeps on giving
she's the best hmm
I have another one well
actually before
we do that I just like to do a
little
quick yellow vest update since
that oh
yes just get back out of the
country
yeah well yes and again the
reason is
because no one is really
reporting on in
fact the propaganda is now out
France is yellow vest
protesters changed
tactics on Saturday for the day
of
action in Paris builders act 5
of what
have been violent
confrontations in the
capital initially the capsule
was
quietest turnout was much lower
protests
began more than a few hundred
all
streets remained open and the
voiceover
is actually saying there
weren't as many
people it was locked calmer not
as many
shops were boarded up and
meanwhile the
video is showing people
spraying cops
with fire extinguishers throwing
electric scooters at them
outside Paris it planned a
demonstration
at the Palace of Versailles
attracted
just a handful of demonstrators
it had
been shut in advance for the
day this is
the sixth straight week of
protests and
concessions made by president
macro
appear to have taken the sting
out of
the movement but it has cost
lives the
latest a man in Perpignan his
car hit a
lawyer that had been stopped in
the road
by a picket line bringing 2:10
the
number of deaths mostly in
traffic
accidents this is propaganda of
the
highest order from euronews
because what
really happened is that a lot
of people
who came from outside Paris in
the first
few weeks of these protests
have now
started these protests in their
own
towns and cities this is this
is spread
all throughout France the
YouTube videos
show everything and this and I
see fear
in these cops eyes yeah and
there and
there's real beating going on
back and
forth and that just the
funniest thing
is when to throw in the electric
scooters at the cops it's
spreading the
Netherlands we got a boots on
the ground
from Lucas Toyama that it's
spreading to
the Hague Amsterdam Rotterdam
Emin is
not huge but it's getting there
Portugal
also jumping in good morning
for the
last two hours dozens of yellow
vest
protesters have been blocking
as you can
see the major accesses to the
city of
Porto they managed to block the
roads
for some minutes then the
police came
and intervened and made them go
away but
what they have been doing since
then is
to cross over and over the road
in order
to block the traffic yeah it's
kind of
an interesting protest so they
just go
to the pedestrian crossing and
they just
keep crossing I'd never see I
think it's
a great idea never seen it ever
thought
of the idea just do a circular
just
everyone said there's people
crossing
from left to right from right
to left
and then they just cross about
and they
go back in the other in the
other
direction and it's very
effective and
have you got foot you got a
four-way
stop thing you can just go
around and
Akash goes a square he'll keep
walking
if you have enough people you
clog the
whole thing up forever in both
directions and it
really is it's impressive to me
I I
don't know about the Portuguese
but the
the French just always
impressed me with
with what they're doing and
give cops
the troll room pointed out cops
are
pulling their guns
I'm not rubber bullet guns like
pulling
their sidearms that you know
that they
feel that threatened but the
media is
still odd oh it's alright
McCrone fixed
it everything's good it's
nothing to
worry about
I wish we were like that in
America we
only come out to be but most of
the laws
of change you make it very
difficult to
get anything started you can't
have a
general strike in the United
States is
now the unions have fallen
apart they do
recur up you know cheer up now
we've
been mind-controlled with the
only time
we go out on the street is for
a pink
pussy hats like ok now we'll go
on March
is sad that go Frenchie's but
just looks
like I think this is a much
much deeper
much broader than is being
reported it's
hard to tell from what you can
see on on
YouTube just the scale of it
but if you
really read the reports this is
it's not
diminishing it's growing it's
just
spreading out
yeah we're good at flash mobs
that will
be do in America hey let's dance
we're pissed off we're gonna
surprise
dance on you yeah
so you know we've been accused
of being
a trump apologist
Podcast oh really I've heard it
it's
bullcrap of course but just to
prove it
I I got a kick out of this I
hate Trump
medley have you heard this one
I don't
know where is it nobody knows
more the
way is this about him about his
big
brain I'm sure I'm sure that's
something
nobody okay where did you pick
this up
for who made it you know I
don't know
the source it has just been
floating
around
yeah maybe super I got one of
those too
that I'll play after this okay
let's
listen nobody knows more than
Trump
medley nobody could do it like
me nobody
nobody can do it like nobody's
stronger
than me nobody has better toys
than I do
there's nobody bigger or better
at the
military than I ain't nobody
loves the
Bible more than I do nobody
builds walls
better than me nobody's better
to people
with disabilities that man
nobody's
fighting for the veterans like
I'm
fighting for the veterans
there's nobody
that's done so much for
equality as I
have there's nobody more
pro-israel than
I am there is nobody more
conservative
than me there is nobody that
respects
women more than I do
nobody would be tougher on Isis
than
Donald Trump is nobody's ever
had crowds
like Trump as head there's
nobody that
understands the horror of
nuclear better
than me but nobody even
understands it
for me it's called evaluation
the sale
of the uranium that nobody
knows what it
means I know what it means
nobody knows
more about trade than me in the
history
of this country has ever known
so much
about infrastructure as Donald
Trump I
know the h-1b I know the h-2b
nobody
knows it better than me nobody
knows
politicians better than I do
nobody
knows more about taxes than I
do nobody
knows more about debt than I do
nobody knows the system better
than me
which is why I alone can fix it
say what
whatever he did he became
president
doing it I'll give him that
much now I
have a I have the the counter
to this
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about that did you see this
Malcolm I
missed this is Malcolm Nance on
with
Brian Williams on MSNBC about
the
Russian face bag disinformation
campaign
no oh my god well what well you
I want
to play some clips from this
guy he just
he took it to such an
incredible level
that okay that I had no idea
what was
really going on in the United
States how
far the Russians have come in
oh really
yes Malcolm Nance
with Brian Williams Brian who
we know
lied he lied about a lot of
things and
he was the the main guy at NBC
News and
now he's taking millions now
he's at
MSNBC and he gets through the
break it
does these 11th hour which I
kind of
like actually I'll watch it if
I bump up
into it here's his intro to
Malcolm
Nance with his creds
new report out tonight reveals
that
Russian disinformation teams
have
targeted the special counsel Oh
two
reports commissioned by the
Senate
Intelligence Committee and
focused on
the internet research agents
control
farm
Robert Muller indicted last
February
according to one of them well
what is
clear is that all of the
messaging
clearly sought to benefit the
Republican
Party and specifically Donald
Trump the
goal was to reinforce tribalism
to
polarize and divide to exploit
societal
fractures blur the lines
between reality
and fiction
he wrote our trust in media
entities and
the information environment in
government in each other and in
democracy itself the
interference is
still active and ongoing and
notably the
trolls have tried to create and
amplify
the narrative that the whole
imagine
buying wealth if you'd asked
him five
years ago do you think you will
ever
speak a sentence where you're
talking
about trolls and notably the
trolls have
tried to create and amplify the
narrative that the whole
investigation
was nonsense that Comey and
Muller were
corrupt and that the emerging
Russia
stories were a weird conspiracy
pushed
by liberal crybabies who else
the online posts received
nearly two
hundred sixty four million
engagements
as defense across platforms that
includes likes retweets shares
and
whatever so a bunch of bull
bull crap
all right so bring in Malcolm
Nance he's
written a book about how the
Russians
crowned King Donald what Russia
has done
here and where the true
brilliance of
this intelligence operation
comes from
is way back in the early 2000s
the
Russian military conducted a
strategic
study and started carrying out a
disinformation plan in which
they said
that instead of carrying out
kinetic
warfare against your enemies
the best
thing we can do is create a
disinformation of frame around
that
nation
what's a dish information frame
I have
no idea what he's talking about
I like
what he's doing here it goes
back to
2000
didn't these Russians man to
the point
where over time as we are
constantly
tearing them apart and feeding
them with
false information they would
actually
welcome an invasion so what has
done
that to the United States so
we're
welcoming the Russians can
march in the
Red Army yes eventually maybe
we're at
that point maybe it's happened
maybe
that's what Trump is he is the
invasion
from an invasion so Russia has
done that
to the United States and it
began way
before 2016 Oh as a matter of
fact the
earliest references I have with
relation
to Donald Trump shows that it
started
back in 2011 with Maria boo
Tina and the
NRA contacts contacts with the
fundamentalist Christian right
and the
alt-right in the United States
Russia
was pushing these
disinformation themes
then then in 2013 they stood up
the
Russian Federation internet
research
agency which built all of these
memes
and tropes which became drug
ruse
missiles of fake news and
disinformation
designed to do what it did
today take
one third of the United States
population and make them
refused to
believe what they see before
their very
eyes and may have elected a
president in
the process Wow I don't even
know where
to start to unpack that it
started in
2011 they had there was some
guy in a
white coat and a butterfly net
standing
behind him maybe in this last
clip the
Russian internet research
agency was a
subcontractor to Russian
military
intelligence in the FSB
Russia's a
National Security Agency and
that was
done at the cost of less than a
couple
of cruise missiles they now own
the
mindset of one third of this
nation and
by doing that they have managed
to now
make us not believe anything
that we
believed before that diversity
was an
American factor which made us
greater
they have played on the themes
of
far-right conspiracy theorists
from the
1960 the John Birch Society the
sideline
group
you know and the farthest
extremes of
the libertarian party's in it
this guy
is actually saying that the
Russians
looked at looked at the
landscape and
said if we can bring back the
John Birch
Society people will go for it
he'll be
all in and they 6/3 of the
country now
believes what they want to say
of course
being the most anti Russian
operation
they have amplified racism to
the point
where the alt-right steve
bannon's own
creation of gamers is now of
the wholly
owned subsidiary of the trump
campaign
and our believers in David Duke
the Ku
Klux Klan Richard and Richard
Spencer
the neo-nazi and Robert Spencer
the
Islamophobe to the point where
they're
mainstreamed this is how
effective this
information warfare campaign
has been
carried out and let me tell you
this
report shows how they went
after to
suppress the african-american
vote and
there is no doubt in my mind or
anybody
else's in the intelligence
community
that doesn't believe that it
took
American citizens to assist
them really
getting down to where these
voters were
who needed to be suppressed and
they did
it in such a fashion one of
their
Twitter groups had three
hundred sixty
six thousand followers on it
Malcolm Nance this is why we
ask you all
the time to come on this
broadcast scary
stuff but it needs to be said
needs to
be heard thank you so much Wow
Malcolm
Nance this is why we ask you
all the
time to come on this broadcast
scary
stuff but it needs to be said
needs to
be heard thank you sir so much
for
joining us it needs to be said
needs to
be heard thank you thank you
for your
courage Malcolm Nance what
repressed
African vote should be
addressed let's
say you're a African American
and you
didn't vote well is it because
you're a
repressed for because you
didn't want to
vote it's because you're so
stupid you
fell for the Russian propaganda
that's
what's being said it's
it's a racist it's an insult to
the
black community there are
plenty of
people that don't vote because
they look
at the candidates say I don't
care I'm
not voting for either one of
them and so
they don't vote and that nope
none of
the blacks liked Hillary they
do it
wasn't her husband it wasn't a
Barack
they'd come out to vote for him
and they weren't coming out to
vote that
some did come out to vote for
Trump but
you know they were outliers
yeah so it's
not some plot because otherwise
they
would all poured into the
voting booths
to vote for Hillary that's what
the
thesis is that's what the
underlying
thinking is it that comment
exact wrap
it's racist
maybe because he's black it
can't be
racist when he says it maybe
that's okay
oh this guy's black yeah never
guessed
it yeah yeah yes
scary stuff this needs to be
said that's
a PR thing okay so that's the
way it
goes you say so if I say scary
stuff
that's what you say needs to be
said
needs to be said okay so let's
try it
again
scary stuff needs to be said
yeah good
we're on it we can take the
show on the
road we hit it yeah take the
show on the
road
so here is Gutierrez
grandstanding at
Congress who's this Gutierrez
Gutierrez
that these that the radical uh
Latino
representative from Chicago and
he's
always making a scene he's just
hates
everything but the kick I get
out of
this is I am NOT you I got 45
seconds
I'm not gonna take my 45
seconds and he
takes a minute 20 oh okay I saw
this
yeah I saw this douchebag all
right he's
going after a Brigitte Nielsen
who
vibrated did not look good
sorry just as an executive
producer mode
for a second she looked
different you
didn't look good something was
wrong
about her whole looking during
this this
interrogation I didn't see that
yeah I
was sorry she looked like
normal no
there was something weird about
I have
to go back and maybe that she's
changed
her hair she's on her way out
she's on
her way out she's done she's
very happy
that goose Guterres
grandstanding and
then I get a second clip of her
responding and right in the
middle of a
response he just walks out he
doesn't
want to hear a word of it he
said this
guy is the worst
I don't have 45 seconds I won't
take
them all for this is repugnant
to me and
astonishing to me that during
Christmas
all right more context is
needed cuz not
everyone understands politics
and
American politics
this is Christine Nielsen she's
the
director of Homeland Security
she is in
overseas ice and she is
responsible for
anything that has done with
immigration
control and prosecute
prosecution now
immigration border gratias
border
security ripping children from
mother's
arms that's what I meant to say
I don't
have 45 seconds I won't take
them all
bullcrap but it is repugnant to
me and
astonishing to me that during
Christmas
I have to call them the holiday
season's
to be inclusive but during
Christmas
because the majority always
wants to
just call it Christmas that
during
Christmas first I got to do it
the time
in which we sell it
the birth of Jesus Christ a
Jesus Christ
who had to flee for his life
with Mary
and Joseph thank God
there wasn't a wall that
stopped him
from seeking refuge I just we
can it's
too late but maybe for next
year we can
do a new nativity scene with a
wall and
sleep with Mary and Joseph
thank God there wasn't a wall
that
stopped him from seeking refuge
in Egypt
thank God that wall wasn't
there and
thank God there was an
administration
like this or he would have to
have
perished on the 28th on the day
of
innocence when Herod ordered
the murder
of every child under two years
of age
maybe I haven't gone a lot of
Bible
school but I know that no we're
pretty
sure you haven't gone to Bible
School
thank God everybody that
separates
children and allows them to say
at the
other side of the border
fearing death
during hunger freeing sickness
shame on
us for wearing our badge of
Christianity
during Christmas and allow the
Secretary
to come here and lie thank you
time of
gentleman has expired
couple things one how did he if
he had
45 seconds how come they let
him go for
an extra 45 there's some
seniority rule
where you've been around long
enough
they kind of give you a little
more
leeway okay and the second part
of this
what he's talking about I
believe is
that the administration cuts
some deal
with Mexico that all people
seeking
asylum in the United States
coming
through the Mexican border and
I think
he's probably talking more
about Tijuana
that the Mexican government has
agreed
that they will house people and
while
they're waiting for their
Asylum on your
side yeah and and so is is
Tijuana now
such a horrible place cuz he it
sounds
like sickness and What did he
say he
said a whole bunch of things
about it
yeah hunger hearing sickness
shame on us so do you want it I
mean
seem like it's that bad right
all right
so yeah was that bad in the
forties
maybe I don't think is that bad
now all
right so then she throw it to
her and
she's just kind of rolling her
eyes this
guy's you know the guy's a
lunatic I
don't know how the Chicagoans
can keep
voting this clown in but don't
okay
listen to what she has to say
secretary
would care to respond to
anything only
then to say that calling me a
liar
fighting words I'm not a liar
we've
never had a policy for family
separation
I'm happy to walk the gentlemen
through
it again a policy of family
separation
would mean that any family that
I
encountered in the interior I
would
separate it would mean that any
family
that I found at a port of entry
I would
separate it would mean that
every single
family that I found illegally
crossing
we would separate we did none
of those
what we did do is uphold the
laws that
Congress has passed and we
prosecuted
those who choose to come here
illegally
as far as not being
compassionate let me
just tell you what I have done
and of
course he couldn't be bothered
to stay
so I'm happy to tell the rest
of the
committee hey walked out but
idiot uh I
find it annoying these guys
this grand
Stander's kind of there's a new
spook
that I I don't know if she's
been around
or we just loose yeah and
there's a new
spook well we don't have a new
spook
jingle um I'm gonna see what
her name
was now her name is Samantha
VIN Oh Grod
and she's another fast traveler
last
name uh liquor
Victor India November Oscar
Gulf Romeo
Alpha Delta I knew it letters
if we're
not we're not on a CB don't you
ever
call me a CB r again
vinaigrette VI n OG
r ad you know it's interesting
this
Samantha because you've spent a
lot of
time in the Middle East you
understand
walls that work walls that
don't work
let me put that tweet that the
president
just posted what he says the
steel slap
barrier there you see this
steel fence
in effect that the president
wants to
build but you know how
individuals if
they want to get into the
United States
from Mexico get
a fence a steel slat barrier
like this
well first of all they're
spikes the top
of this fence I feel like the
president
googled Middle Ages and tweeted
something out rather than
consulting
with actual security experts or
architects about what could
work in this
kind of scenario I was in
Ramallah and I
saw the wall in the Palestinian
territories between the
Palestinian
territories in Israel Benjamin
Netanyahu
reportedly spoke with the
president
earlier this week and said
build a wall
it'll help well guess what
terrorists
and other illegal immigrants in
the
Middle East do they built
tunnels under
walls those spikes don't deter
that kind
of activity and I just want to
point out
the president's own State
Department
doesn't even think that this
walls or
steel flats is going to solve
the
problem of illegal immigration
on Monday
they issued a whole strategy for
combating illegal immigration
that has
nothing to do with the wall and
some of
those very same employees will
be
furloughed if I remember now
she went yeah go ahead and
she's spooked
she looks like a spook well
here I'm
gonna just read off a few
things and you
tell me all right got an MA and
studies
from Georgetown she worked for
the US
Department of the Treasury in
Baghdad
and then in various positions
for the
administration of Obama where
she worked
at the National Security
Council as the
director for rock for
international
economics senior adviser to the
National
Security Advisor uh-huh and
then in 2013
went to work for Goldman Sachs
focusing
on public private sector
partnerships
around a rumor I can idea that
you
remember when they had the
caravan come
rushing up you know there's
charging us
yes from Guatemala yes and a
lot of them
went to the Texas side and a
lot most of
what the Tijuana toward Tijuana
yes and
it was Madison was told there's
another
reason they got maybe got rid
of him he
was told to send some troops
down there
you didn't want to do it send
some
troops down there and it's
rumored that
the recently sent the true
to Texas instead of where the
action was
which is Tijuana was because
there's
something like support
supposedly 3,000
tunnels underneath the walls and
barriers in Texas where these
guys are
sneaking in mm-hmm and the idea
was is
that there was some code or
something
that came out of the city we're
gonna
storm in the country through
these
tunnels and so the army we had
to be
there to keep that from
happening don't
know anything about it more
than that
but there's a I agree that the
most of
the action of the cocaine and
the rest
of us all through tunnels and
they build
their tunnel builders digging
digging
digging right you know that
fence isn't
gonna do anything about that
you know I
was reading the the newish the
newer
book of from since I got the
soap I
picked up the book again
Theodore
Kaczynski it's called the anti
technology revolution and it is
his
version of how we should combat
the
technology yeah just combat
technology
in general and he talks again
there
about the unintended
consequences of
technology I call a wall or
slatted
fence or whatever you want to
call it is
of course a version of
technology and
and we have no idea Trump
doesn't know
no one knows I think the
tunnels yeah
that could happen a whole bunch
of other
things could happen because of
this wall
that we do not know about so
it's not
quite as black and white as
everyone
sees it and I agree I think the
tunnels
is actually pretty you know
yeah I think
tunnels in our future tunnels
don't you think so yeah tunnels
are in
our future future with Elon
Musk it is
tunneled yeah the more I think
the more
I think about having a tunnel
in Los
Angeles the stupider I think it
is oh
it's fine no it's not funny
apparently they have trouble
this is the
loss the Angelenos are so
freaked out
about earthquakes and there's a
big one
coming that they're not using
the subway
they've been a big subway
system in LA
which runs all over the place
it's it's
not like New York or Chicago
even or
anything like in the Europe or
even
Russia but it's there
and
the Angelina's won't go with
you no
there's no no no I don't want
to be in
that thing when the whole thing
collapses right there like free
time
even in the Bay Area where we
have the
same problem and we would go
under them
I'm always in fact the kids we
talk
about this when you're in the
BART which
is our subway elevated and when
you go
under the under the bay to get
to San
Francisco everybody kind of
holds their
breath for the seven minutes it
takes I
can imagine why no but this is
packed
with people and they go when
they do it
I don't know what the point of
the LA
one is it just doesn't seem to
have any
real rhyme or reason I haven't
been on
have you no no I like to go on
it I tend
to just stay home and yell at
the
chemtrails that's that's pretty
much
what I do yell at the Kim's I
stop
yelling at FoxNews I just yell
at the
chemtrails
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