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1235: Coronafest

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

3h 7m
April 19th, 2020
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Executive Producers: Sir Kris Baron of the Carson Valley, Jesse Dean, Jonathan Walker, Anonymous

Associate Executive Producers: Sir Tim of the Tunnels, Dame of The Crystal Core, Tristan "Onion"Martens, Aaron Cole, David Naus, Stephanie Symonds, Connor and Christina at beach view farm

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Start of Show
Woodstock
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    Adam curry
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    Jhansi Dvorak April 19-20 25th wedding
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    Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode
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    1235 this is no agenda in the morning
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    everybody
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    hi Adam Curry and for northern Silicon
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    Valley where they're forcing us to wear
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    face masks Jessi Dvorak is that in your
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    your rules you get away face masks
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    everywhere now not today but starting
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    soon really we already have that I think
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    we our face masks stuff is already in
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    place here we have the the new the new
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    guidelines we're opening up Texas is
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    going to be leading I'm very excited
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    we're getting out of jail yeah I noticed
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    you guys are evened out you weren't even
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    down for the count
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    yeah we're yeah we've been kind of
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    locked up before we do anything since I
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    figured we'd turn the tables for a
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    moment since every mainstream outlet is
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    at home and they're broadcasting from
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    their house
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    sounded like crass sounding like total
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    crap but that's what their broadly this
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    were their broadcasters all right yeah
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    why don't we show them how we can do
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    their job just as well you know the
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    studio audience the opening like the
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    view would like take the view for a
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    moment you know how they open up and
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    they've got all got all their their
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    topics and what's going on let's show
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    the view how no agenda does it and the
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    morning foundation on today's episode
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    the gentlemen of the No Agenda show will
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    spin
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    the United States to discover who's the
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    next to protest so exciting
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    also half the elites continuing to abuse
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    the terrible Rona data to take away our
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    Liberty now that President Trump has
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    outlined a three-stage plan those are
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    the facts of this world and halls a
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    render to them you pigs and human
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    clothing and you slaves should get used
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    to your crappy mac and cheese most of
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    your favorite restaurants are just not
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    going to make it that will have an
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    international perspective on how
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    countries outside of the US are
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    continuing to deal with Corona Corona
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    Corona of course there'll be plenty of
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    humor and media deconstruction to keep
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    your amygdala healthy now let's hear
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    from John Cedar Park and there we go
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    thank you Dave Jennifer I thought that
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    was pretty good developer chops
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    she totally totally gets it yes chops
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    that's exactly what it is well no sooner
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    had our show ended on Thursday but yes
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    we got the announcement with the
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    multistage approach to every state maybe
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    right down to the county level reopening
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    and rejoining American society however
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    amidst all the excitement about that a
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    fast one was pulled on us with the data
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    and no one really talks about it this is
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    where I'm waiting to see if you heard
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    anything about a lot well gone were the
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    models the health data org model was
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    gone the and that is the the Murray
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    model and gone were the other there was
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    no mention of the models nothing at all
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    we have a new chart and it happened just
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    think it was like a magic trick so well
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    performed because it happened right in
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    front of your eyes no one said anything
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    no one questions it
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    it started with pence after the
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    president did his typical thing how
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    great we are
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    and pence just threw it out there
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    governors at every level or health care
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    workers and our fellow Americans we've
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    saved lives
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    and every American should be comforted
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    by that and we can see it in the numbers
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    in the charts that I'll present today
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    these three maps track influenza-like
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    illness which in this instance is mostly
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    coronavirus across America the first map
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    reflects the total number of cases on
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    the week ending March the 28th the next
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    map reflects our data about the total
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    number of cases on the week ending April
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    4th and we stand here today with the
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    final map reflecting the total number of
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    cases across America as of April the
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    11th with these trends underway
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    President Trump has the White House
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    coronavirus task force to develop new
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    guidelines for opening up America again
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    now I'm real happy that we're gonna get
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    new guidelines for opening up America
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    again but these new trends
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    you can't just introduce a whole new
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    chart with different data and say it's a
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    trend Saveur created baby and I took the
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    liberty of posting this chart John so
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    you can take a look you can find it at
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    Co vid bullcrap calm somebody got smart
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    board I did that I did that Co
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    bullcrap calm so you definitely go there
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    and you can see this chart I'll bring it
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    up myself here and we're going to listen
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    to dr. Burks walk us through it now what
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    you're seeing here and visual for the
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    people who aren't seeing it is the
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    different influenza cases starting in
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    2012 a 2011 to 2009 to 2010 all the way
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    through to the current cycle and it's
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    interesting because this is the exact
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    chart that I got so much flak before
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    when I asked on the tweeters and Scott
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    Adams went berserk over the question I
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    said hey if this is the influenza for
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    2019 2020 it's dropping off the cliff
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    what happened and of course everybody
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    had a reason to question and lo and
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    behold this exact chart is now being
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    used as the trend line for getting rid
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    of it but has nothing to do with kovat
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    19 this is an established system it is
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    called the influenza like illness
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    reporting system or network which is
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    it's been in place for a long time and
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    doctors and have systems and ways to get
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    the information and very quickly very
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    easily proven over time which is exactly
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    what was lacking with coronavirus just
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    Chuck chatting everybody at marking
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    everybody up is died from corona virus
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    just propping it into some spreadsheet
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    somewhere more money in it of course
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    there's more money which is actually one
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    of the perhaps side reasons why they
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    might have done this Melissa listen to
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    dr. Burks explain what's going on here
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    no apology for disappearance of the
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    previous models or any of the the the
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    trends that we were waiting for or peak
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    or flattening the curve this is a
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    completely surged nice it's not even the
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    same data all right follow along at
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    kovat bullcrap calm in addition the CDC
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    has the influenza like illness net
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    distributed throughout the United States
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    very useful in the wintertime that first
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    peak is influenza B in the red that's
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    this season I showed you all the seasons
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    here so you could see the seasons as
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    they are just
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    the first peak is influenza B second
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    peak influenza influenza A and then you
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    can see the corona virus hold on a
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    second that's a good one this is
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    unbelievable so we're looking at a trend
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    line which by the way is not the highest
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    2017-2018 season was to people to end
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    the 20 2009-2010
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    oh yes the 2017-2018 season we know that
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    the hospitals were stretched and there
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    were news articles about it but no one
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    yelling and screaming and crying for
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    help the way we saw with corona virus
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    masks so what she just says there is and
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    this is the influenza like this
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    surveillance network and if someone
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    comes by the way it could be mentioned
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    that based on the influence of like
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    illness that means that during this
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    three peaks at which that she's talking
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    about the a the B and the corona yeah it
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    all because the mix could all be corona
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    it could all be influences yeah all well
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    let's let's but Burke's finish and then
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    we'll have the CDC director really punch
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    at home you can see its decline and it's
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    declining towards baseline this will
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    allow us again city by city community by
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    community state by state to look for
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    variations in an early response mode in
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    those at localities that I described so
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    I'm fine with this but if you really
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    look at this data so you're telling me
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    corona virus was not around even though
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    we see this spike which they're saying
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    oh that was influenza B I thought one of
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    them didn't show up at all this year
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    maybe that was corona virus and maybe
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    that was the controller they had the two
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    things they had a and B both listened to
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    the CDC director going a little bit more
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    depth about what how what what is
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    reported here remember it's just an
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    influenza like illness it's not corona
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    influenza like could be drippy nose a
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    sore throat
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    I now have an influenza like illness
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    report but we've also developed
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    a system to monitor for upper
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    respiratory tract disease I can get the
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    first slide there this is an example
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    because when we talk about what we know
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    about this current pandemic the reality
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    is we know a lot because we've developed
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    these monitoring systems up on the slide
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    is a system that we've developed
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    initially for flu and what it does as
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    you can see there's a multiple different
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    flu seasons and they track them over the
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    course of a year I want you to look at
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    the red line and that happens to be this
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    year's respiratory season and you see
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    there is a peak there up over the 50
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    52-week so that's the peak right at the
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    end of the year in December when lots of
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    people were sick and they went and got
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    tested wasn't influenza but they had a
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    lot of symptoms similar to Kovach but
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    can't be that and that peak was when we
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    actually had a peak of influenza B this
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    year was a little different because
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    after that viral syndrome came down and
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    you can see it that actually we had
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    another peak and that's when influenza A
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    was active through our country and you
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    can see influenza A started to drop but
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    then you saw a third peak that peak was
  • 11:39
    you were looking at the corona virus 19
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    just because I say so
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    so we have systems all the way down to
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    the county level that we can see where
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    there's respiratory tract illness which
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    is not the same as the actual corona
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    virus it's just respiratory illness it's
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    just driving me crazy
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    and so it's not just just taking a test
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    it's monitoring these systems that have
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    been developed over the last over
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    decades and we have multiple ones we
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    have another one this that is monitored
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    in emergency looking at syndrome
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    diagnosis and they show the same thing
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    so we're well equipped to monitor to see
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    when respiratory tract viral disease
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    will come and becomes a very good
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    surrogate
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    for when you can begin to understand
  • 12:30
    that we need to start looking more
  • 12:31
    ideologically about what's going on
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    ideologically what does that mean it is
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    a word
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    ideologically I've never heard that I
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    think it's AED I think it's AI di
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    something is to some term I've heard it
  • 12:48
    like ideal as an ideal no no he's got
  • 12:50
    something just got nothing to do with
  • 12:51
    anything that you did stop the anything
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    to do with ideal it's something else
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    it's like I'll try to find it viral
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    disease will come and becomes a very
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    good surrogate for when you can begin to
  • 13:05
    understand that we need to start looking
  • 13:07
    more ideologically about what's going on
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    you can see now in week 15 we're really
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    coming down to the baseline background
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    in terms of our flu surveillance system
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    from the overall coronavirus situation
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    right now etiological ET i that's it
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    thank you trolls of relating to or based
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    on etiology or etiologic treatment of
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    disease seeks to remove or correct its
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    cause don't use those words and anyway
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    I'm over my anger because Thursday I was
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    just like it's clear we were conned
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    we were conned with your bullshit or
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    angle shit data
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    yeah well it's it comes and comes and it
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    goes exactly how I feel
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    they put us into this based upon a a 2
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    million death model that model Rubert
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    was revised for timely and AmeriCorps
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    time four times that this has happened
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    and and now we got 60,000 and don't look
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    over here look over here look at this
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    chart that red lines going down and
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    based upon this chart now so just well
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    not only based on this chart but this
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    will be a big factor in getting
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    everybody back to work because it's safe
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    and although the mainstream late now
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    although the mainstream
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    keeps pushing that we can't go back to
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    work until we have a vaccine and all the
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    testing testing testing because they got
  • 14:45
    to keep this economy so it's in the tank
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    the election they don't care about you
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    no of course not of course not so
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    testing pouchy did doctor Falchi
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    america's doctor also known as the angel
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    of death he did a long thing about
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    testing on friday at least fifteen
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    minutes and after you woke up you're
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    like huh huh because you got testing and
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    this is important so he he's I don't
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    know if he was intentionally confusing
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    everybody but it's completely stupid the
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    key metric this is the only metric you
  • 15:21
    need to look at interestingly it's not
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    on this chart the key metric is more
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    tests upward testing and downward
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    positive cases of those tests and that
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    divergence will show you you know
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    actually what's going on at least that's
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    what they're telling us but some
  • 15:46
    interesting data has showed up in a
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    homeless shelter which the CDC has
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    reviewed and is quite excited about at
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    Pine Street in in Boston's South End
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    Universal Kovac nineteen testing leading
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    to new stunning evidence about the East
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    symptomatic spread of the virus it was
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    like a double knockout punch because the
  • 16:05
    number of positives was shocking to us
  • 16:07
    but then the fact that a hundred percent
  • 16:09
    of the positives had no symptoms was
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    equally shocking dr. Jim O'Connell
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    president of Boston healthcare for the
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    homeless program says broad scale
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    testing was carried out of this shelter
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    about a week and a half ago because of a
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    small cluster of cases the findings now
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    actively being examined by the CDC 146
  • 16:29
    positive cases about 36 percent of the
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    shelter's population all asymptomatic it
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    probably frankly raises more questions
  • 16:37
    than it answers Pine Street president
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    Lindy Adani says the results prove the
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    previous screening method of only
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    testing though showing symptoms to be
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    ineffective I think there are so many
  • 16:48
    asymptomatic people right now that if we
  • 16:50
    could do universal testing
  • 16:52
    their number may look close to this I
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    don't think we know the universal
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    testing at Pine Street in and testing of
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    the homeless at BMC bringing Boston's
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    South End to number one in the city with
  • 17:03
    the highest rate of kovat 19 infection
  • 17:06
    of the 146 people at Pine Street in who
  • 17:08
    tested positive health officials tell us
  • 17:10
    only one needed hospital care and many
  • 17:13
    have not experienced any symptoms so
  • 17:17
    that's pretty interesting if you've got
  • 17:18
    this kind of spread that's 36 percent of
  • 17:20
    this homeless shelter had it without
  • 17:22
    symptoms we have the situation
  • 17:25
    developing in the South County here in
  • 17:26
    Santa Clara where they're starting to
  • 17:29
    test people to find that which is the
  • 17:31
    hotspot in the area yes I have a clip we
  • 17:33
    also this is actually governor Ron de
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    santis of Florida talking about what
  • 17:39
    you're mentioning here we also one of
  • 17:42
    the most important studies that's been
  • 17:44
    done just this week came out at Stanford
  • 17:47
    University where they tested the
  • 17:49
    antibodies in Santa Clara County
  • 17:51
    California and so these are people who
  • 17:54
    have the antibodies from the corona
  • 17:56
    virus the thought is that they had
  • 17:58
    acquired the virus many of them may not
  • 18:00
    have known that they had had it but they
  • 18:02
    look to see how prevalent those
  • 18:03
    antibodies were in that county and they
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    determined that between 50 and 80 times
  • 18:09
    more people in Santa Clara had the
  • 18:11
    antibodies than had actually tested
  • 18:14
    positive in Santa Clara County yeah just
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    I see this as extremely good news yeah
  • 18:22
    but we can't do we can't stop now this
  • 18:25
    reducer surge coming it's gonna peak in
  • 18:27
    a couple of weeks and however the
  • 18:28
    hospitals are gonna be overwhelmed and
  • 18:30
    you should keep stay stay social
  • 18:33
    distancing close to the restaurants and
  • 18:34
    and everything and stay home because you
  • 18:37
    can't take a chance
  • 18:38
    you can't take a chance so you know I
  • 18:44
    think the the Democrats who are in
  • 18:47
    full-on politicization mode they're
  • 18:50
    obviously trying to get these committees
  • 18:52
    together and whatever whatever groups to
  • 18:55
    impeach the president and it will be
  • 18:57
    impeached because he acted too late he's
  • 18:59
    too sure he was too slow and he said
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    good things he said there wasn't gonna
  • 19:04
    be a problem
  • 19:04
    and it was a problem he said
  • 19:06
    there wasn't gonna be a problem so he
  • 19:07
    has to be impeached because he says
  • 19:08
    there wasn't gonna be a problem yes I
  • 19:12
    think I had Kamala Harris saying
  • 19:13
    something similar to that if she's still
  • 19:16
    vying for the VP job with Joe she's a
  • 19:19
    good woman that's a pretty good job I
  • 19:24
    think there is no question whatsoever
  • 19:26
    that his failure to take this seriously
  • 19:30
    from the time of calling it a hoax to
  • 19:33
    getting rid of the Obama
  • 19:36
    administration's focus through the White
  • 19:38
    House on pandemics whatever that means
  • 19:41
    Camelot is that is that your version of
  • 19:45
    the guy who got kicked out who was
  • 19:46
    retiring anyway from the National
  • 19:48
    Security Council a guy to trivializing
  • 19:52
    the issue including the importance of
  • 19:54
    social distancing tribulation and
  • 19:56
    frankly his lies let's continue to today
  • 19:59
    there is no question then that hardly a
  • 20:02
    president in charge who actually took
  • 20:04
    their responsibilities seriously that we
  • 20:08
    would probably be looking at a lot less
  • 20:10
    damage than we have incurred and yes and
  • 20:14
    the damage is measured by that ticker we
  • 20:16
    watch every day affected and the number
  • 20:21
    of people who are dead dead we are every
  • 20:25
    day hearing and watching stories about
  • 20:28
    body bags stories about body bags of you
  • 20:33
    see trust me if there was a body bag
  • 20:39
    story I'd be playing it I think we've
  • 20:41
    had one guy mention buddy Biggs and that
  • 20:44
    was a Ted Ross is the only one who's
  • 20:46
    mentioned body bags
  • 20:47
    Ted throws body bags so the president
  • 20:52
    and there is no question that it is
  • 20:56
    actually I believe not a debatable point
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    about he's a that has abandoned his role
  • 21:04
    of leadership and meaning the role of
  • 21:06
    the President of the United States he's
  • 21:08
    not gonna act like a president he
  • 21:11
    doesn't understand the job so you know
  • 21:14
    yeah I
  • 21:15
    I absolutely I'm gonna do everything I
  • 21:17
    can to elect Joe Biden me Joe please
  • 21:26
    pick me
  • 21:27
    it is so transparent what she's up which
  • 21:31
    is all about their of course the that's
  • 21:34
    that's the narrative from the
  • 21:36
    politicized narrative Trump has blood on
  • 21:38
    his hands acted too late trivialize it
  • 21:40
    lied and Trump is pointing squarely at
  • 21:44
    the World Health Organization which I
  • 21:47
    think the more and more people are
  • 21:49
    seeing the validity in that but he also
  • 21:52
    answers questions directly about now
  • 21:54
    which i think is he's now common
  • 21:56
    knowledge not completely confirmed that
  • 21:59
    this was leaked from a bio lab which I
  • 22:01
    think we were called conspiracy
  • 22:02
    theorists not job tinfoil hat wearers
  • 22:04
    for just two months ago it appears that
  • 22:08
    that was true I haven't I have a article
  • 22:11
    I want to read I can't get anybody to
  • 22:13
    run this as a as a voice that had been
  • 22:15
    such a short article and this is the one
  • 22:18
    that floated around just recently the
  • 22:20
    2008 and by the way the Nobel Prize
  • 22:23
    winners are coming out of the woodwork
  • 22:24
    to commentary on this real own advice
  • 22:27
    this is a 2008 Nobel Prize winner for
  • 22:30
    medicine
  • 22:32
    he says Kovan 19 was manipulated for HIV
  • 22:36
    research and this is the best article I
  • 22:38
    found that it kind of explains it
  • 22:40
    because it does kind of put all the
  • 22:42
    pieces together because we've seen a lot
  • 22:43
    of dots about this and that and it did
  • 22:45
    the L and then really well and then that
  • 22:48
    we have all these variations that are
  • 22:49
    showing up out of the blue this actually
  • 22:51
    kind of explains it you mean like the
  • 22:52
    different strains yeah the difference
  • 22:54
    range that according to professor Luc
  • 22:56
    montagnier winner of the Nobel Prize for
  • 22:58
    medicine is he discovered HIV is the
  • 23:00
    cause of AIDS he knows this he says that
  • 23:03
    the Stars Cove to response for the kovat
  • 23:05
    peg dem is a virus that was accidentally
  • 23:08
    released from the lab and Wu Han was the
  • 23:10
    last quote and it says when he'd known
  • 23:12
    knows about this he says this was the
  • 23:14
    claims that this was a genetically
  • 23:17
    modified for the purposes of developing
  • 23:19
    AIDS value
  • 23:21
    HIV vaccines and so there's many times
  • 23:24
    you have to do something to some other
  • 23:26
    organism they get more HIV out of it
  • 23:28
    for the lab yeah that's that's the what
  • 23:31
    do you call that the term I just forgot
  • 23:34
    grow it you got to enhance it no enlarge
  • 23:37
    some term for it yeah okay it says in
  • 23:39
    order to render certain HIV sequences
  • 23:41
    gene molecular tools are needed they
  • 23:44
    only be done in a lab the good news is
  • 23:45
    nature does not accept any molecule
  • 23:48
    tinkering it will eliminate these
  • 23:50
    unnatural changes and even if nothing is
  • 23:53
    done it will get better but
  • 23:55
    unfortunately after many deaths yeah he
  • 23:58
    did a podcast unfortunate in French so
  • 24:01
    he says that this thing is just
  • 24:03
    deteriorating naturally yeah in the wild
  • 24:06
    because it's not meant to be in the wild
  • 24:08
    and it was done for a for a purpose it
  • 24:11
    wasn't a bio weapon and and you its
  • 24:14
    accounting for ice he doesn't say this
  • 24:17
    but it seems to be accounting for all
  • 24:18
    these variations these various strains
  • 24:20
    Richard all over the place now via which
  • 24:22
    is the tech more as it is as the thing
  • 24:25
    that they graze it is degenerative yes
  • 24:28
    the term for growing it is and bigan
  • 24:38
    well this is interesting and if you send
  • 24:42
    me that I'll put it in the in the show
  • 24:44
    notes because that would possibly
  • 24:47
    implicate foutch he and his group
  • 24:49
    because that's what they do that is that
  • 24:52
    is their wheelhouse
  • 24:53
    all of this HIV research is is foul Qi
  • 24:56
    and yes and Burks it's I think there's a
  • 25:01
    lot of people that know about I want to
  • 25:02
    play a series of clips from Democracy
  • 25:04
    Now with the because here's what bothers
  • 25:07
    me why is everybody getting so bent out
  • 25:10
    of shape why do you get bent out of
  • 25:12
    shape with the suggestion the mere
  • 25:14
    suggestion that a lab in the same area
  • 25:18
    where this thing popped up Mike might
  • 25:20
    just might be responsible and it so
  • 25:24
    happens that the lab is working on Co
  • 25:26
    good night working on that on the corona
  • 25:28
    virus and other things why is it so bad
  • 25:32
    for you to even consider the possibility
  • 25:34
    that that this is but what's wrong with
  • 25:38
    that so let's listen to origins story
  • 25:40
    one here we are in democracy now
  • 25:42
    amy has completely bent out of shape
  • 25:45
    about these theories the White House is
  • 25:48
    unveiling new guidelines today aimed at
  • 25:50
    rolling back states stay at home orders
  • 25:53
    protecting against the spread of
  • 25:55
    coronavirus president Trump's call to
  • 25:57
    wind down social distancing came as the
  • 25:59
    United States recorded more than 2,400
  • 26:02
    deaths in just 24 hours the highest one
  • 26:06
    day death toll for any nation since the
  • 26:10
    start of the pandemic across the United
  • 26:13
    States there are nearly six hundred
  • 26:14
    forty thousand confirmed cases of Kovach
  • 26:18
    I thought we had a forty seven hundred
  • 26:22
    day death just last the next day after
  • 26:26
    okay all right thanks do believe me she
  • 26:30
    milked out with a dedication since the
  • 26:32
    start of the pandemic across the United
  • 26:35
    States there are nearly six hundred
  • 26:36
    forty thousand confirmed cases of kovat
  • 26:39
    nineteen though the true number is
  • 26:42
    likely far higher due to the critical
  • 26:45
    shortage of tests at least 31 thousand
  • 26:48
    people have died of the disease in just
  • 26:50
    a matter of weeks
  • 26:51
    despite this president Trump spent the
  • 26:54
    last few days waging a war on
  • 26:55
    journalists public health experts and
  • 26:58
    science on Wednesday Trump suggested
  • 27:01
    without evidence that Wells Health
  • 27:03
    Organization officials conspired to hide
  • 27:05
    the truth about the corona virus his
  • 27:07
    comments came one day after he announced
  • 27:09
    the US would begin withholding hundreds
  • 27:13
    of millions of dollars of funding for
  • 27:14
    the UN body at the same news briefing
  • 27:17
    President Trump fuelled the fringe
  • 27:19
    theory promoted by Fox News that this is
  • 27:23
    Fox News reporter John Roberts
  • 27:25
    questioning Trump at Wednesday's press
  • 27:27
    briefing multiple sources are telling
  • 27:31
    Fox News today that the United States
  • 27:33
    government now has high confidence that
  • 27:36
    while the corona virus is a naturally
  • 27:39
    occurring virus it emanated from a
  • 27:41
    virology lab in Wuhan because of lack
  • 27:44
    safety protocols an intern was infected
  • 27:47
    who later infected her boyfriend and
  • 27:50
    went to the wet market in Wuhan where it
  • 27:52
    began to spread does that correspond
  • 27:54
    with what you have heard well I don't
  • 27:57
    want to say that John but I will tell
  • 27:58
    you more and more we're hearing the
  • 28:00
    story and we'll see when you say
  • 28:02
    multiple sources though there's a case
  • 28:04
    where you can use the word sources but
  • 28:06
    we are doing a very thorough examination
  • 28:10
    of this horrible situation that happened
  • 28:12
    wow this was a laden with all kinds of
  • 28:15
    goodies wood wood wood which he threw
  • 28:17
    out there at us including she's
  • 28:20
    unbelievable and the thing but but you
  • 28:22
    heard what he said he actually kind of
  • 28:24
    poo pooed it and downplayed it gee he
  • 28:27
    doesn't get credit for that because
  • 28:29
    listen I do they have the clip one a
  • 28:32
    which is just her again going on about
  • 28:35
    how how somehow what you just heard was
  • 28:37
    fueling the controversy he downplayed
  • 28:41
    the controversy at the same news
  • 28:43
    briefing President Trump fueled the
  • 28:45
    fringe theories related by Fox News that
  • 28:47
    the virus streams alive in Wuhan China
  • 28:49
    this is Fox News reporter John Roberts
  • 28:51
    questioning Trump at Wednesday's press
  • 28:53
    briefing now we had that clip on
  • 28:55
    Thursday we played it because it was
  • 28:56
    obviously a setup and then I think we
  • 28:58
    presented it as such just to bring us up
  • 29:01
    to current context quick clip here was
  • 29:03
    Trump yesterday when asked the question
  • 29:05
    about China's culpability or
  • 29:07
    responsibility you would do do you think
  • 29:22
    there should be some consequences if in
  • 29:25
    the end
  • 29:26
    China was responsible for all this well
  • 29:30
    if they were knowingly responsible
  • 29:33
    certainly if they did if it was a
  • 29:34
    mistake a mistake is a mistake
  • 29:36
    they were knowingly responsible yeah
  • 29:38
    then there should be consequences
  • 29:40
    so there's your out she yeah just say it
  • 29:45
    was a mistake but they won't do that
  • 29:46
    that's not in their nature they don't
  • 29:49
    like to admit they could ever make a
  • 29:50
    mistake but let's just in the part two
  • 29:51
    as Amy goes on deep you know
  • 29:55
    pooh-poohing any thought and again I'll
  • 29:59
    bring the logic of this up there was a
  • 30:00
    lab there and it did work on viruses and
  • 30:03
    it was in new blood by Corona and fout
  • 30:07
    she somehow is involved because he's an
  • 30:09
    aged age hold on there was a 3.7 million
  • 30:13
    dollar grant from the CDC during the
  • 30:18
    Obama administration and that was all it
  • 30:22
    was all part of it we were working
  • 30:23
    together was not unknown this is not an
  • 30:25
    unknown entity to the United States so
  • 30:28
    here we have Amy bringing on an expert
  • 30:31
    who works at that lab or at Gordon
  • 30:33
    doesn't work there but he works with
  • 30:34
    them and he's just going nuts about any
  • 30:37
    implications now I'm started to think
  • 30:40
    about as I listen to these clips you
  • 30:42
    know they're trying to protect this lab
  • 30:44
    and as much as they can it must be doing
  • 30:47
    some very interesting work but yeah but
  • 30:49
    just to just to go out of their way to
  • 30:52
    like take what is obviously something to
  • 30:56
    think about
  • 30:57
    mm-hmm and slam it so harshly especially
  • 31:00
    as you heard Amy in that last clip yeah
  • 31:02
    it really makes you wonder but let's
  • 31:03
    listen to this this came just one day
  • 31:06
    after the Pentagon's top general mark
  • 31:08
    Milley said the corona virus likely
  • 31:11
    client came from natural sources not a
  • 31:13
    Chinese lab on Thursday China's foreign
  • 31:15
    ministry spokesperson responded see my
  • 31:20
    millou analyst position on the origin
  • 31:22
    and means of transmission of the novel
  • 31:24
    coronavirus creator Sega could always is
  • 31:27
    a scientific issue should be studied by
  • 31:30
    scientists and medical experts I would
  • 31:32
    like to remind you need to either share
  • 31:34
    the head of whu-oh has your appeal
  • 31:35
    there's no evidence that the coronavirus
  • 31:38
    was made in al-ameen she won many
  • 31:40
    well-known medical experts in the world
  • 31:41
    also believe that claims of the
  • 31:43
    so-called laboratory deeds mean have no
  • 31:46
    scientific basis the scientific journal
  • 31:48
    the lancet has said the virus seems to
  • 31:50
    have come from wildlife there's a lot in
  • 31:56
    the lances might in The Lancet my dear
  • 31:58
    you might want to read the other
  • 31:59
    articles that have been published why
  • 32:03
    why why is it that when we have I mean a
  • 32:06
    goat on YouTube there's dr. after just
  • 32:09
    as an example not to take you away from
  • 32:10
    the topic this doctor after doctor
  • 32:12
    saying hey man I had fifty patients
  • 32:14
    they're all doing great gave them
  • 32:16
    hydroxychloroquine why is that not doing
  • 32:18
    at this hour Adam curry reporting good
  • 32:21
    news we have people surviving the Cova
  • 32:25
    death why why why why why can't it all
  • 32:29
    do one of those just one that was easier
  • 32:31
    to explain than this not really
  • 32:34
    yeah compromise well yeah but they're
  • 32:37
    all compromised all these journals are
  • 32:39
    come for some reason and maybe it's all
  • 32:41
    Chinese money I don't know maybe we've
  • 32:43
    missed out yeah we got it we got it or
  • 32:47
    me we got to maybe not use some point
  • 32:49
    stop ignoring the fact that the Chinese
  • 32:51
    are got their hands deep into to our
  • 32:53
    media yes very deep so let's listen to
  • 32:57
    the last clip this is a doctor - ik who
  • 33:01
    Amy brings on to discuss this thing it's
  • 33:05
    under dr. Dr - ik gotcha for for more on
  • 33:10
    the origins of the corona virus Trump's
  • 33:13
    response and where we go from here we're
  • 33:16
    joined by a zoologist who has long
  • 33:19
    studied diseases that cross the animal
  • 33:22
    human I have to stop please correct Amy
  • 33:25
    on the on the pronunciation here you do
  • 33:28
    not it's zero is not just because
  • 33:33
    it'd have to be three OSes zoologists
  • 33:36
    it's zoology it's not zoology for for
  • 33:40
    more on the origins of the coronavirus
  • 33:43
    Trump's response and where we go from
  • 33:46
    here we're joined by a zoologist with
  • 33:48
    long studied diseases that cross the
  • 33:51
    animal human divide and over years has
  • 33:55
    been sounding the alarm about a coming
  • 33:57
    pandemic dr. Peter - Jacques is with us
  • 34:00
    he's a disease ecologist the president
  • 34:02
    of eco Health Alliance a nonprofit that
  • 34:04
    works globally to identify and study our
  • 34:07
    vulnerabilities to emerging infectious
  • 34:09
    disease eco Health Alliance has been
  • 34:11
    studying coronaviruses in China since
  • 34:13
    the end of the SARS outbreak in 2004
  • 34:16
    this coronavirus holycrap does the guy
  • 34:20
    ever talk was she just gonna blow him in
  • 34:22
    the introduction this unbelievable this
  • 34:24
    is what she does
  • 34:31
    39 seconds already still haven't gotten
  • 34:33
    just the intro in China since the end of
  • 34:36
    the SARS outbreak in 2004 this
  • 34:40
    coronavirus is really called stars -
  • 34:42
    he's joining us from the Hudson River
  • 34:44
    Valley in New York welcome to democracy
  • 34:49
    now it's great to have you with us
  • 34:50
    so if you can unpack what we just heard
  • 34:53
    it goes to the issue of the origins of
  • 34:57
    the coronavirus especially interesting
  • 34:59
    that President Trump is raising this now
  • 35:01
    as he's being seriously attacked for the
  • 35:06
    United States lack of action and delay
  • 35:09
    and so he is striking out at his many
  • 35:13
    sectors as he can but talk about the
  • 35:16
    origins of the coronavirus dr. - and we
  • 35:19
    have about 30 seconds left holy crap
  • 35:21
    take off your edits a minute and 15
  • 35:25
    seconds and what do we have left 34
  • 35:27
    seconds for the douche yeah great to be
  • 35:29
    here look first the the the idea that
  • 35:31
    this virus escaped from the lab is just
  • 35:33
    pure baloney it's simply not true I've
  • 35:36
    been working with that lab for 15 years
  • 35:37
    and the samples collected were collected
  • 35:40
    by me and others in collaboration with
  • 35:42
    our Chinese colleagues there's some of
  • 35:44
    the best scientists in the world
  • 35:46
    there was no Varro ISIL in the lab there
  • 35:49
    was no cultured virus that this anything
  • 35:51
    related to Sanskrit virus - so it's just
  • 35:54
    not possible and while you say it's
  • 35:57
    really a politicization of the origins
  • 36:00
    of a pandemic and it's really
  • 36:02
    unfortunate okay science researcher
  • 36:05
    completely unchanged in the in the
  • 36:10
    laboratory that failed its safety rule
  • 36:13
    no may as well be a spokesperson for the
  • 36:16
    CCP yeah gosh as she brings him on maybe
  • 36:21
    she just all she had to do was say yes
  • 36:23
    sir as you wish of course I'll have him
  • 36:25
    on so I don't think she's I don't think
  • 36:27
    there's well not it's not Amy of course
  • 36:29
    it doesn't work that way but Wow Wow
  • 36:34
    yeah we have to keep reminding ourselves
  • 36:36
    how incredibly deep the CCP is into all
  • 36:42
    things media yeah they're not stupid no
  • 36:50
    these guys are easily bought Condoleezza
  • 36:54
    Rice is in the picture again
  • 36:56
    I guess she's on the president invited
  • 36:58
    her to be on the board of the board on
  • 37:00
    the reopening board and she works for
  • 37:02
    the or she is now with the Hoover
  • 37:04
    Institution
  • 37:05
    yeah we're hearing yeah so she's toeing
  • 37:09
    the line of that office at the Hoover
  • 37:11
    Institution it seems it's just to let it
  • 37:17
    be known that China responded in the way
  • 37:19
    that it did or didn't respond let me put
  • 37:22
    it that way because the Chinese are
  • 37:24
    going to treat try to create they're
  • 37:26
    even trying to do this out a
  • 37:27
    counter-narrative well when we found out
  • 37:30
    about it we got on top of it look at how
  • 37:32
    quickly through social distancing and
  • 37:35
    quarantine look how quickly we recovered
  • 37:37
    and all by the way we've been helping
  • 37:39
    the rest of the world by sending PPEs
  • 37:42
    and by sending help and a to all of the
  • 37:45
    the world they're gonna kind of shift
  • 37:48
    the narrative from their initial
  • 37:50
    responsibility for not fessing up to
  • 37:52
    what was happening to we got on top of
  • 37:55
    it and then we helped the rest of you
  • 37:57
    that's how they got shipped America
  • 37:58
    don't let
  • 37:59
    no I'm but it is happening and I'm not
  • 38:02
    letting it happen is seems impossible
  • 38:05
    just combined with the perfect storm of
  • 38:07
    hate of total bitter utter media hate
  • 38:11
    towards Trump and he's so bitter and so
  • 38:15
    hateful that you can't even for two
  • 38:17
    seconds think about your audience the
  • 38:19
    the public today hey hey you know think
  • 38:23
    about us tell us how we're doing give us
  • 38:25
    some useful information by the way the
  • 38:28
    President did give us a very graphic
  • 38:30
    detailed a report boots-on-the-ground
  • 38:33
    report if you will of the initial test
  • 38:36
    now you know now the testing is going to
  • 38:39
    be quick swab 15 minutes I think they're
  • 38:42
    talking about one even faster than that
  • 38:44
    but the first one is where they Jam that
  • 38:46
    thing up your nose through your nose
  • 38:49
    through the back of your nose bend it
  • 38:52
    down it really goes from three rows down
  • 38:54
    your throat now this was the test that
  • 38:59
    the president had to take because if you
  • 39:01
    recall the media kept saying God hopes
  • 39:08
    that he would have it they wanted to
  • 39:10
    make calls 25th amendment here he tells
  • 39:14
    you how that initial test went just like
  • 39:17
    with ventilators we're building now the
  • 39:18
    best ventilators just like with
  • 39:21
    ventilators our testing is getting
  • 39:23
    better and better I took the first test
  • 39:25
    the first test was not pleasant this was
  • 39:28
    not a pleasant thing I said you got to
  • 39:30
    be kidding to the doctor you got to be
  • 39:33
    kidding
  • 39:33
    up your nose and then we hang a right
  • 39:35
    and it goes down here and then we'll
  • 39:38
    wiggle it around here under your eye and
  • 39:40
    then we'll pull it out and we'll say I
  • 39:43
    said no that's it's there's no way that
  • 39:45
    can happen is that the way it goes you
  • 39:48
    sure this was a very unpleasant test and
  • 39:52
    then I was tested a few weeks later with
  • 39:54
    the new test that just came out the
  • 39:57
    abbot where they just touch your nose
  • 39:58
    basically and they put it in a machine
  • 40:00
    in a literally a few minutes later they
  • 40:03
    tell you if you're fine and I was lucky
  • 40:06
    in both cases and it's funny how he
  • 40:10
    described that because almost what you
  • 40:12
    did except he had the up your nose hang
  • 40:14
    a right under your eye there's some well
  • 40:20
    there's a lot wrong with with people
  • 40:22
    sitting at home there's a lot of wrong
  • 40:23
    thinking and I think people are very
  • 40:25
    disconnected from reality so when you
  • 40:27
    hear this is that is actually what the
  • 40:30
    test entailed the first test when we
  • 40:32
    need everyone 350 million tests a day
  • 40:35
    but you sadist for some reason there's
  • 40:39
    this belief that a test is like
  • 40:41
    chickity-check
  • 40:42
    lickety-split and it's like a home
  • 40:44
    pregnancy test you go by it at the at
  • 40:46
    the drugstore you take it home pee on a
  • 40:47
    stick and you know where you're at yeah
  • 40:50
    this is and I and that is partially a
  • 40:52
    complete lack of media immediate work in
  • 40:57
    general the news should be explaining
  • 40:58
    this much better I don't do any of that
  • 41:02
    go on and on yeah yeah I know I know
  • 41:05
    just go on no no no and it's starting to
  • 41:08
    actually before we get there so with I'm
  • 41:11
    happy Texas is going to be the first one
  • 41:13
    of the first states to open up on
  • 41:17
    Tuesday all retail will be able to open
  • 41:20
    but you can't go in the store as a
  • 41:22
    customer you could order on the phone or
  • 41:24
    online you can pick it up curbside
  • 41:27
    marginally interesting the parks are
  • 41:29
    going to open you can now be in the park
  • 41:32
    five people at the same time yes
  • 41:36
    face masks is still going to be a thing
  • 41:39
    it's you everyone is wearing one and if
  • 41:41
    you're not wearing one you get stink eye
  • 41:43
    so I don't there's no official word on
  • 41:45
    that actually then on the 26th so that
  • 41:50
    will be what is that Friday Friday or
  • 41:54
    Saturday yeah Saturday or Sunday then
  • 41:59
    we're going to go to the next phase and
  • 42:01
    I think that's where will the
  • 42:02
    announcement will be that as of next
  • 42:04
    week Monday
  • 42:05
    can start 6 is Sunday what is Sunday so
  • 42:08
    as of the 27th we'll be able to do more
  • 42:10
    and I think they'll go either to the I
  • 42:14
    hope straight to the 50 people line
  • 42:17
    where you can do 50 people in a in a
  • 42:20
    group but we'll have to see abbot our
  • 42:24
    governor here very similar to what the
  • 42:27
    president did you know we're doing this
  • 42:28
    on data as here's the list of all the
  • 42:31
    health experts nationally
  • 42:32
    internationally known and he also has an
  • 42:34
    advisory council which immediately made
  • 42:37
    me question everything Abbott says our
  • 42:40
    medical team will work with an advisory
  • 42:42
    committee of a successful business and
  • 42:44
    community leaders who will share
  • 42:46
    information and innovative ideas to help
  • 42:49
    businesses strategically reopen while
  • 42:53
    also containing the spread of the
  • 42:55
    coronavirus they include entrepreneurs
  • 42:57
    like Kendra Scott and mattress magnatum
  • 43:01
    Megan mill world-renowned tech leaders
  • 43:04
    like Michael Dell and Robert Smith
  • 43:06
    economic development leaders like Ross
  • 43:09
    Perot and Bob Roman small business
  • 43:12
    leaders like Marcy Leah Costa and masty
  • 43:14
    Villarreal now do you think that he
  • 43:16
    actually got confirmation from all of
  • 43:18
    these people in particular Ross Perot
  • 43:20
    who had no Ross Perot is still alive he
  • 43:23
    died last year
  • 43:24
    oh he's on the committee what is this
  • 43:29
    all about did he say okay did you alive
  • 43:32
    I didn't I die new or I thought he was
  • 43:35
    dead
  • 43:36
    yeah you do it wasn't sure he was
  • 43:38
    actually dead last year July of 2019 hey
  • 43:42
    listen Kendra's gone although I do like
  • 43:47
    mattress mat Jamaica Ville I think
  • 43:48
    that's cool that he's hot no I think
  • 43:52
    it's one of those crazy Eddy type stores
  • 43:54
    mattress mat you know what if Kendra is
  • 43:58
    gone and Kendra Scott is a jewelry
  • 44:01
    designer so it wouldn't make sense
  • 44:02
    Kendra's gone
  • 44:04
    Matros Matt - Megan mill world-renowned
  • 44:08
    tech leaders like Michael Dell and
  • 44:10
    Robert Smith economic development
  • 44:13
    leaders like Ross Perot and Bob row I
  • 44:18
    mean that's messed up that is really bad
  • 44:23
    that means he didn't even call and by
  • 44:26
    the way I'd love to be on that call hey
  • 44:28
    can Ross can Ross come up and play you
  • 44:34
    know I get the sense that did list was
  • 44:36
    given to him by one of his staffers who
  • 44:38
    probably just made it up just made it up
  • 44:43
    I it's very damaging very very damaging
  • 44:47
    well I don't think anyone else hey you
  • 44:50
    won't be laughing when they roll his
  • 44:52
    corpse out well he was known for his
  • 44:56
    holding him up one waving his arm he was
  • 44:59
    known for his innovation you never know
  • 45:03
    what good old Ross might have might have
  • 45:05
    figured out okay we can't be on
  • 45:10
    coronavirus as much as we usually do but
  • 45:12
    I still have a few things when we it's
  • 45:16
    people and write that write us say that
  • 45:18
    one of the things that we're doing for
  • 45:20
    them is keeping them up going not during
  • 45:23
    this moment probably have another week
  • 45:25
    or two of material and we keep coming up
  • 45:27
    with stuff that's true I have another
  • 45:29
    piece of material
  • 45:31
    now with this clearly very questionable
  • 45:35
    global shutdown something's happened I
  • 45:39
    mean there have there's been resets of
  • 45:41
    has been digging some holes and planting
  • 45:44
    some bombs exactly stuff has been going
  • 45:47
    on and if you look at the current stock
  • 45:51
    market I'm just looking at the at Wall
  • 45:52
    Street it's really quite incredible
  • 45:55
    where that is compared to the reality on
  • 45:58
    the ground which should be over
  • 46:00
    completely stops really stop the economy
  • 46:03
    and we'll talk about some of the issues
  • 46:05
    there in a bit as well
  • 46:09
    Trump explains the genius stock market
  • 46:13
    because the stock market is actually
  • 46:14
    talking to us look at us we're the
  • 46:16
    greatest economy in
  • 46:18
    history of the world better than China
  • 46:20
    better than any country in the world
  • 46:22
    better than any country has ever had we
  • 46:24
    had the highest stock market in history
  • 46:27
    by far and I'm honored by the fact that
  • 46:29
    it has started to go up very