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1234: COVID KowTow

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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April 16th, 2020
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Start of Show
Woodstock
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    oh my would have China finds out Adam
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    Curry
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    John C. Dvorak 16 is your award-winning
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    Gitmo nation media assassination episode
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    one two three four is no agenda in the
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    morning everybody
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    I'm Adam curry am from Northern Silicon
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    Valley I'm John C Dvorak alright worst
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    opening ever know I was worse no no no I
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    think this is one of the worst ones okay
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    no do-overs huh yeah no all right this
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    you know like your bachman-turner
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    overdrive opening bachman-turner
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    overdrive opening yeah the false
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    stuttering oh well who's that -
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    degeneration it was an l-shaped recovery
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    on that opening there you go hey
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    everybody this is episode one two three
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    man hey everybody hey everybody
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    1234 episodes John congratulations
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    oh you're welcome this is uh I didn't
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    thank you I said congratulations well
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    you're welcome anyway good how's
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    everything in California with the rona
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    well we got everyone's giving speeches
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    though he had the they had the Newsome
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    come out and he gave a long speech it
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    was kind of this crackling voice I've
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    got I'm trying to work on it and so he's
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    got a long thing he talks with a correct
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    gravelly voice and he sounds like this
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    and he goes on and on and on and on and
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    on and on and on and on it's
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    unbelievable it just goes on and on and
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    then the next thing you know we have the
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    mayor London breed to talks like she has
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    a kind of a sneer and she's the mayor
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    like Elvis she's the mayor of what's a
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    mayor of San Francisco yeah mayor of San
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    Francisco she's got her sneer and she
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    talks and
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    went on for an hour yak yak yak yak yak
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    yak yak and then they brought on the
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    other guy and some guide the doctor the
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    local doctor who's the head of it
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    the Kovas response or something and they
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    go on and they going on and on about how
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    terrible is in San Francisco we have 17
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    whole deaths over the last month Wow
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    what's the economy in San Francisco just
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    get you know killed everything for the I
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    don't know maybe I think they're
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    exaggerating the problem oh I'm pretty
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    sure they are and we have some data to
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    back that up but it was an interesting
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    week and as you know I've been sitting
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    at home with everybody else and I think
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    like everybody else we're almost ready
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    in just a week or two I'll be begging
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    for a vaccine it feels like that we got
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    Michiganders getting all feisty I had a
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    bunch of gates the clips I'm following
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    him around he's promoting his vaccine
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    he's promoting he swallows a lot when he
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    talks it's kind of annoying to listen to
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    him and he's promoting his vaccines he's
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    promoting globalism global Global gummer
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    yes yes I have I have he's also
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    considering since he's a college dropout
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    and really he's only been a technologist
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    a guy giving away money he's not
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    considering himself a well he's got a
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    new he's got a new status for himself it
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    seems oh look what you can it see if you
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    can find it in here let me find this
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    clip this is gates globalist talk on the
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    BBC is the name of the clip
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    Bill Gates thank you very much for
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    joining us on BBC Breakfast I just
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    wonder if I could first ask you how
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    important is it now to have a global
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    response I'd say it's critical because
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    the tools that are going to reduce
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    deaths the drugs you know that's a
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    global thing to get those out and the
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    thing that'll get us back to the world
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    that we had before coronavirus is the
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    vaccine 27 seconds
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    only 27 seconds to say vaccine not bad
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    bill you're getting better
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    back to the world that we had before
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    coronavirus is the vaccine and getting
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    that out to all seven billion people and
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    so the efforts to test those to build
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    the factories to understand you know is
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    it safe and ready to go that's a global
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    problem and you know so I'm glad you
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    know that people are coming together
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    I just gotta interrupt this clip for a
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    second what he just said there has
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    seeped in deep into the consciousness I
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    was listening to da chime plugged and
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    Horowitz has this same feeling I I heard
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    him say well we can't really go back to
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    normal until we have a vaccine and
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    everybody can be tested and you waffled
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    because i heard you go on it waffle
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    didn't say anything i did roll my eyes
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    because it's not a point of discussion
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    to be having on that show i understand i
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    want to just side track and get into a
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    debate about no no no it's not about you
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    it's about seeing that people have been
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    taught a message well I would hope so
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    with hope some of the smaller amygdalae
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    amongst us are not thinking that well
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    listen our show ur got a clue not but
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    not all of them I do get a lot of notes
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    you got you bitch about it before but
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    I've got a couple doozies recently let
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    me finish up this gates clip to find
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    where is the best work and combine that
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    you know the factory will be in a
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    different country than the search is in
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    this is the whole whole world working on
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    probably the most urgent tool that's
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    ever been needed ever can I ask you to
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    just reflect a little more on the the
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    way that world leaders thus far have
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    responded to the crisis well there's the
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    period when I and other health experts
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    we're saying that this is the greatest I
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    want everybody to understand the
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    significance of what John C Dvorak is
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    communicating to you with these sound
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    effects Bill Gates is not a health
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    expert when I and other health experts
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    we're saying that this is the greatest
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    potential downfall the world faced you
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    know going back quite a ways
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    with a speech in 2015 a New England
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    Journal of Medicine I'm so smart about
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    the specific thing so you know we
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    definitely will look back and wish we
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    had invested more so that we could
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    quickly have all the diagnostics drugs
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    and vaccines
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    I'm glad you pulled this clip he says
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    well I want to tie into it but go ahead
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    I
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    there's a number of problems with this
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    clip can I just tie into the end of what
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    he said about the investment part yeah I
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    don't want to lose my point because now
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    go ahead there now go ahead go ahead
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    he's asserting that if we had thought
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    about this more seriously as a
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    particular problem that he and others
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    have been predicting for science fiction
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    writers have been writing about this for
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    a hundred years and you know they don't
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    get any credit but gates with this 2015
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    TED talk made us some mention of it
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    these things come along there is no
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    they're not predictive you can't have
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    vaccines ready to go like he implies if
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    we were if we had global governance and
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    everything was in control we'd have all
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    this ready we'd be ready to go at the
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    drop of a hat once this thing showed up
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    but that's not the way it works that's
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    not the way these bugs evolve they
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    haven't evolved with a pre-done vaccine
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    you know I mean he is just crazy RNA
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    vaccine which doesn't work but we don't
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    know that my don't got one of those
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    things eventually so this is nonsense
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    the other thing is he says the dog the
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    global problems you can't do these
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    things locally he is saying that the
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    United States cannot by itself develop
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    and and and produce a vaccine or
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    anything for that matter without the
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    glue help of the globe because
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    everybody in the globe not that many
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    countries that can do any of this work
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    well and we're the preeminent one except
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    clearly that we are beholden to
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    manufacturing in another country as he
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    alluded to and the two countries were
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    beholden to are China mainly in India
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    yeah so that's why he's he's all in on
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    this model he doesn't want to change it
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    he doesn't want we're saying which is
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    let's pull the plug on that distant
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    relationship yeah right and do it all
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    here why are we putting up with this
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    kind of dependency to send a submission
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    to these other countries is bullcrap
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    well I have some thoughts on that
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    clearly he wants things to be done in
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    China for a very specific reason or
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    India be okay as long as it's not in the
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    United States
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    clearly he wished there was a lot more
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    investment a lot more investment because
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    as he mentioned in Davos on CNBC where
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    you talk about investment just in
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    contrary to what people say about
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    vaccines and the vaccine business bill
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    kind of likes it you've invested 10
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    billion dollars in vaccinations over the
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    last two decades and you figured out the
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    return on investment for that and it
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    kind of stunned me can you walk us
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    through the math well it's pretty
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    impressive that I mean you take these
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    vaccines get them to be very inexpensive
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    by making big bond commitments have that
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    right relationship with the private
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    sector get the delivery system so
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    they're really getting the coverage out
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    there you literally save millions of
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    lives you know we see a phenomenal track
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    record it's been a hundred billion
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    overall that the world's put in our
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    foundation it's a bit more than 10
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    billion but we feel there's been over a
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    20 to 1 return so if you just look at
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    the economic benefits that's a pretty
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    strong number compared to anything else
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    the human benefit in millions of lives
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    saved so you know we're here with a
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    pretty strong message that although all
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    these other issues are very important
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    let's not forget about the great success
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    in global health and maintaining that
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    commitment I think the numbers that you
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    ran
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    if you had put that money into an S&P
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    500 and reinvested the dividends you'd
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    come up with something like 17 billion
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    dollars but you think it's 200 billion
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    dollars here yeah yeah 20 time return on
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    the unprofitable vaccine business uh-huh
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    yeah that's pretty telling and the other
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    thing is is this what kind of God
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    philanthropy it's real a philanthropist
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    he's a health professional he's a health
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    professional philanthropist dr. bill yes
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    yeah he's looking for return on
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    investment this is that you're supposed
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    to be giving your money away this is
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    return on investment well you heard him
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    say it and that's what he that's what he
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    cares about so he's you know the same
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    old bill a little now he's a medical
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    professional yes under no degree never
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    deep took a class in health but because
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    he's giving his money away in some field
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    he's now a medical expert yes yes he's
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    very smart you know
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    yes guys in the room is very very smart
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    he who's also really smart doctor foul
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    Qi it's a colleague of dr. bill yeah dr.
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    Billin doctor croucher but we're gonna
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    calling him dr. bill from I think that's
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    the way to go dr. bill from the country
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    of Gates land
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    I have other gaits clips by the way I'd
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    like to move into foul Chee gates we
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    can't do too much gates in a row he's
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    quite boring he talks to the Financial
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    Times let's get this one let's listen to
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    that then okay his gates with the
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    Financial Times there's a very pretty
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    girl that's interviewing him but she's
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    like deadpan and she and Gates is kind
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    of I think he sees her on the monitor a
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    mate I don't know if he's blindly on the
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    interviewer Caesar I can't tell but I'm
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    sure he's doing it on Skype or Microsoft
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    teams so yeah you'd expect that you
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    would be able to see it oh really
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    then how get it to work maybe it was the
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    zoom who knows
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    but they had I know a guy who works at
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    Microsoft and they tried to do a family
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    meeting over teams that have failed
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    anybody this to see what he says
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    catastrophe wasn't a wool highly
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    infectious virus why didn't anybody live
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    well this is good John did you edit it
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    or hey I think you hello but your clip
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    is no good it's playing this I want to
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    start by going back in time to five
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    years ago many people know you warned
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    that the greatest risk of global
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    catastrophe wasn't a war but a fairly
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    infectious virus why didn't anybody
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    listen and if some people did what was
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    done to prepare for the pandemic that
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    exists now well not enough was done the
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    system wasn't built we didn't really do
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    the number of simulations to try and
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    figure out okay how are we gonna connect
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    up what the Diagnostics how are we gonna
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    get the vaccine going there were some
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    investments for example our foundation
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    Wellcome Trust and a number of
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    governments created C epi which is about
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    making vaccine platforms that are ready
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    when we get surprised to manufacture a
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    new vaccine faster than it's been done
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    in the past so some work was done but in
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    retrospect you know the saddest thing is
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    to be able to say yes that was right but
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    the whole point of the speech was to
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    drive the research and the planning and
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    the simulation which would have allowed
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    us to stop this at a very early stage no
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    please I do not like the doctor bill is
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    taking this route he's trying to build
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    up more superhero status by saying I
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    told you so
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    [Music]
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    very annoying yeah
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    thanks let's listen to clip two now many
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    countries including the UK and the US
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    have been criticised for not doing
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    enough testing and not doing it fast
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    enough what is your assessment of the
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    global response so far and specifically
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    a president Trump's response to this
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    crisis in the u.s. well I'm sure
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    there'll be plenty of time once we're on
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    top of this to look at you know before
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    the epidemic hits what more could have
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    been done when the epidemic hit you know
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    I don't think any country has a perfect
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    record taiwan comes close they really
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    were talking about it and it's
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    unfortunate they weren't part of w-h-o
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    to really get those warnings paid
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    attention to you know most countries
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    didn't see it as as big a problem as its
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    ended up being and of course when you
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    have exponential growth that means if
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    you miss you know three doubling times
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    you know it's eight times as big and
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    much much harder to get under control so
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    a few countries particularly those that
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    have the experience of dealing with MERS
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    or SARS they were the fastest to respond
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    South Korea is an example of that China
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    which had a lot of cases now is in a
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    very different state where they are able
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    to get most people going to kill this
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    yeah I'm glad we did that thank you I
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    want to joint you to save in your brain
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    for later which is most countries didn't
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    see this becoming the big problem that
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    became so he said that that's good this
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    is the last one this is his wife decides
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    to get in on the act and she shows up at
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    CNN and this is the clip is called Mel
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    gastrous this is clip is interesting for
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    two reasons one listening to her spew
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    the same glue she's the worst globalist
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    than he is you know let's just turn our
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    country over to some globalist some
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    one-world government but the interesting
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    thing about this this is a CNN report
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    where the guest on the show
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    is miked better than the host stream
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    than those then the host who's on some
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    connection I don't know what's going on
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    but it's so unprofessional it's
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    embarrassing why do you think they were
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    so ill-prepared for a virus
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    we haven't recognized as a global
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    community that we are a global community
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    and if we had recognized that and
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    stepped up to get that little lab voice
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    - yeah you know there's another thing
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    out the minute I heard this it's played
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    from the beginning I'm not gonna obsess
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    over the shit sound of the host this is
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    how this went hey would you like to
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    speak to Melinda Gates yeah I'd love to
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    okay as long as you ask about the global
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    response and could we have been acted
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    sooner because that's everyone's first
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    questioned the BBC's question
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    it's CNN's questions question that's
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    just a guess the Trump got you a
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    question though Trump didn't accent
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    enough he didn't action enough they
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    didn't action of acting soon enough is
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    that's the part that will that'll play a
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    role in the impeachment
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    we haven't recognized as a global
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    community that we are a global community
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    and if we had recognized that and
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    stepped up to it we would have prepared
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    for this we would have systems in place
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    both monitoring alerting very quickly we
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    would have had test kits available we
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    would have just you know we plan for
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    things as nations we hold for quakes we
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    plan for tsunamis we plan for tornadoes
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    we didn't plan for disease and I don't
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    think that will ever happen now thank
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    God now go back to your alpaca wool
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    knitting woman yes she is more annoying
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    than he is now yeah if only we had been
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    I'm also a health professional well
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    let's talk about this for a second now I
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    need to go to file cheat because we're
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    there this weekend the past weekend the
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    certainly in the United States and as I
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    will show later these political fights
  • 19:06
    are taking place in many different
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    countries and it's and it is often about
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    responsive
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    response time choices made it's
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    happening in the UK it's happening in
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    Germany it's happening in parts of
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    Africa it's everywhere everywhere and in
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    France as well that everyone's getting
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    questioned now but over the weekend
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    dr. Fauci America's doctor who got us
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    into this mitigation as he will testify
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    did an interview with Jake Tapper on CNN
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    and it was interpreted in a way that
  • 19:40
    foul Qi was saying we could have saved
  • 19:44
    lives if there wasn't so much pushback
  • 19:47
    internally from the administration and
  • 19:51
    we could have reacted earlier that's how
  • 19:53
    it was spun that was the headline it was
  • 19:56
    going nuts here is a piece of that
  • 19:58
    interview the pertinent piece do you
  • 20:00
    think lives could have been saved if
  • 20:02
    social distancing physical distancing
  • 20:05
    stay-at-home measures had started third
  • 20:07
    week of February instead of mid-march
  • 20:09
    you know Jake again it's the what would
  • 20:12
    have what could have it's very difficult
  • 20:14
    to go back and say that I mean obviously
  • 20:16
    you could logically say that if you had
  • 20:19
    a process that was ongoing and you
  • 20:21
    started mitigation earlier you could
  • 20:24
    have saved lives obviously no one is
  • 20:26
    going to deny that but what goes into
  • 20:28
    those kinds of decisions is is
  • 20:29
    complicated but you're right I mean
  • 20:31
    obviously if we had right from the very
  • 20:34
    beginning shut everything down it may
  • 20:36
    have been a little bit different but
  • 20:37
    there was a lot of pushback about
  • 20:39
    shutting things down back then I think
  • 20:43
    it sounds like exactly the way it was
  • 20:45
    interpreted well I was a lot of pushback
  • 20:47
    about shutting things down you know but
  • 20:50
    hypothetically you know if we had done
  • 20:53
    it earlier we would have saved lives
  • 20:54
    there's a lot of pushback so I found it
  • 20:57
    very and that the the corona briefing
  • 21:00
    team the task force meant a lot of time
  • 21:02
    this week working on the timeline
  • 21:05
    explaining why they had made choices and
  • 21:07
    at certain moments why they had or they
  • 21:09
    hadn't and within two minutes of
  • 21:12
    Monday's briefing the president rolled
  • 21:14
    out foul Chee Hey ouch don't you have
  • 21:16
    something to say interestingly he didn't
  • 21:19
    really address what the whole issue was
  • 21:21
    about I I think it was the pushback to
  • 21:24
    and here's how he addressed the
  • 21:26
    misinformation that cobbled throughout
  • 21:29
    the weekend the other point I wanted to
  • 21:31
    make is that I I had an interview
  • 21:33
    yesterday that I was asked a
  • 21:36
    hypothetical question and hypothetical
  • 21:40
    questions sometimes can get you into
  • 21:42
    some difficulty because it's what would
  • 21:44
    have a good have the nature of the
  • 21:46
    hypothetical question was if in fact we
  • 21:50
    had mitigated earlier good lives have
  • 21:52
    been saved and the answer to my question
  • 21:54
    was as I always do and I'm doing right
  • 21:57
    now perfectly honestly say yes I mean
  • 21:59
    obviously if you mitigation helps I've
  • 22:02
    been up here many times telling you that
  • 22:05
    mitigation works
  • 22:06
    so if mitigation works and you instigate
  • 22:09
    it and you initiate it earlier you will
  • 22:12
    probably have saved more lives
  • 22:13
    if you initiated it later you probably
  • 22:17
    would have lost more lives you initiate
  • 22:20
    it at a certain time that was taken as a
  • 22:23
    way that maybe somehow something was at
  • 22:25
    fault here so let me tell you from my
  • 22:27
    experience and I can only speak for my
  • 22:30
    own experience is that we had been
  • 22:33
    talking before any meetings that we had
  • 22:35
    about the pros and the cons the
  • 22:38
    effectiveness or not of strong
  • 22:40
    mitigations so discussions were going on
  • 22:43
    mostly among the medical people about
  • 22:45
    what that would mean the first and only
  • 22:49
    time that dr. Burks and I went in and
  • 22:53
    formally made a recommendation to the
  • 22:55
    president to actually have a quote shut
  • 23:00
    down in the sense of not really shut
  • 23:02
    down but to really have strong
  • 23:03
    mitigation we discussed it obviously
  • 23:06
    they would be concerned by some that in
  • 23:09
    fact that might have some negative
  • 23:12
    consequences nonetheless the president
  • 23:14
    listened to the recommendation and went
  • 23:17
    to the mitigation and that was his
  • 23:20
    statement so hey man you know that was
  • 23:22
    just a hypothetical I mean I'm an honest
  • 23:24
    guy but he didn't really address what
  • 23:26
    happened and while everyone's jumping up
  • 23:28
    and down over Paula Reid from CBS I
  • 23:31
    think she asked two very good questions
  • 23:33
    she asked specifically about the
  • 23:35
    pushback which filed she did not address
  • 23:37
    in his weasel
  • 23:38
    his weasel apologies he kind of did if
  • 23:42
    you'd read between the lines but you
  • 23:43
    have to really dig in there he implied
  • 23:46
    and you can challenge me if you think
  • 23:49
    I'm not I'm interpreting this wrong but
  • 23:51
    he says the conversations were between
  • 23:53
    doctors the pushback was within the
  • 23:56
    community
  • 23:56
    yeah then went then went then when he
  • 23:59
    went to take it to Trump Trump went
  • 24:02
    along with whatever he told him to do
  • 24:03
    right but if being the dad but CNN wants
  • 24:07
    to make you think to all push back is
  • 24:08
    this all Trump is meddling and
  • 24:10
    everything and pushing Meyer you can't
  • 24:11
    do that you can't do this I think it's
  • 24:13
    just the you know this is the they're
  • 24:15
    interpreting the word pushback because
  • 24:17
    Trump has been perceived as a big bully
  • 24:19
    I mean we all our preconceived notions
  • 24:22
    about Trump are built into the word
  • 24:23
    pushback we think it was Trump it wasn't
  • 24:26
    Trump what was interesting is that he
  • 24:29
    did not say anything about the pushback
  • 24:31
    or any really though he did not use the
  • 24:34
    word pushback which to me was what set
  • 24:36
    the whole thing off
  • 24:37
    that's where Paula Reid from CBS asked
  • 24:41
    it there were interpretations of that
  • 24:43
    response to a hypothetical question that
  • 24:46
    I just thought it would be been not very
  • 24:47
    nice for me to clarify because they
  • 24:49
    didn't have the chance to clarify thank
  • 24:51
    you
  • 24:53
    you know I to be honest with you I don't
  • 24:55
    even remember what the date was I can
  • 24:57
    just tell you the first and only time
  • 24:59
    that I went in and said we should do
  • 25:01
    mitigation strongly the response was yes
  • 25:04
    we'll do it no the travel restriction is
  • 25:08
    separate that was whether or not we
  • 25:10
    wanted to go into a mitigation stage of
  • 25:12
    15 days of mitigation the travel was
  • 25:15
    another recommendation when we went in
  • 25:17
    and said we probably should be doing
  • 25:19
    that and the answer was yes and then
  • 25:21
    another time was we should do it with
  • 25:22
    Europe and the answer was yes and the
  • 25:24
    next time we should do it with the UK
  • 25:26
    and the answer was yes that was the
  • 25:32
    wrong choice of words people discuss not
  • 25:36
    necessarily in front of the present when
  • 25:38
    people discuss they say well you know
  • 25:40
    this is gonna have maybe a harmful
  • 25:41
    effect on this or on that so it was a
  • 25:44
    poor choice of words it wasn't anybody
  • 25:45
    saying no you shouldn't do that
  • 25:47
    [Applause]
  • 25:50
    everything I do is voluntarily please
  • 25:52
    don't even imply that I like that
  • 25:56
    question I mean it's horrible in just in
  • 25:59
    in normal life you being helped blink
  • 26:02
    twice if you're doing this voluntarily
  • 26:05
    but I thought that was that was a good
  • 26:08
    question never all gotcha questions yeah
  • 26:11
    he gave he gave her daggers but what I'd
  • 26:13
    like to do is just play three four short
  • 26:16
    clips to show you how full of crap filed
  • 26:18
    she is he's lying he makes it up as he
  • 26:21
    goes along and maybe we should just bear
  • 26:23
    in mind he is actually a year older than
  • 26:26
    Joe Biden so in a general sense of the
  • 26:31
    word the guy's doing pretty good he's
  • 26:32
    kicking ass he's out there everywhere
  • 26:34
    doing his interviews I don't think Joe
  • 26:36
    Biden could come close to doing that
  • 26:38
    without you 79 years old man he's up
  • 26:41
    there so January 21st now this is just
  • 26:45
    foul Chi this is the guy who was
  • 26:46
    advising the president the president
  • 26:48
    took its advice did the mitigation he
  • 26:52
    also said he advised to shut down Europe
  • 26:55
    shut down the UK everything was done but
  • 26:58
    here's how this guy talks around town
  • 27:00
    when it comes to the media this is from
  • 27:02
    January 21st and bear in mind we knew a
  • 27:06
    lot
  • 27:07
    we were talking about this in the third
  • 27:10
    week of January but here's what fout she
  • 27:12
    said madame wine we don't have to worry
  • 27:13
    about this one right well I you know
  • 27:16
    obviously it needs to take it seriously
  • 27:19
    and do the kinds of things that the CDC
  • 27:22
    and the Department of Homeland Security
  • 27:24
    are doing but this is not a major threat
  • 27:27
    for the people in the United States and
  • 27:29
    this is not something that the citizens
  • 27:32
    of the United States right now should be
  • 27:33
    worried about not nothing to worry about
  • 27:35
    we were only about a week away from
  • 27:37
    shutting off closing all flights to
  • 27:40
    China let's go forward a few days the
  • 27:42
    26th of January should they be scared
  • 27:57
    okay so we're taking it seriously as
  • 28:01
    public health officials very seriously
  • 28:03
    but you don't have to worry let's jump
  • 28:05
    ahead a whole month February 29 Saturday
  • 28:09
    February 29th to get Saturday morning in
  • 28:11
    America people are waking up right now
  • 28:13
    with real concerns about this they want
  • 28:14
    to go to malls and movies maybe the gym
  • 28:17
    is well should we be changing our habits
  • 28:19
    and if so how
  • 28:20
    no right now at this moment there is no
  • 28:23
    need to change anything if you're doing
  • 28:25
    on a day-by-day basis right now the risk
  • 28:28
    is still low but this could change I've
  • 28:30
    said that many times yes we heard it
  • 28:33
    many times that's February 29th now this
  • 28:36
    past Sunday fout she was on with
  • 28:38
    Sharpton and it's a dangerous place to
  • 28:41
    do an interview because Sharpton
  • 28:42
    confuses you because you trying to
  • 28:43
    understand what he's saying
  • 28:44
    and he'll fumble around and before you
  • 28:47
    know what you're telling the truth or
  • 28:48
    lies or I don't know but here is Fouts
  • 28:50
    she's timeline now as of this past
  • 28:53
    Sunday by the time we got that
  • 28:55
    information and we started getting cases
  • 28:58
    here it was well it's not efficiently
  • 29:00
    spread from human to human but as soon
  • 29:02
    as it became clear that there was a
  • 29:05
    community spread which means that it
  • 29:07
    isn't just a travel related case there
  • 29:10
    are a case
  • 29:11
    that are in the community under the
  • 29:12
    radar screen then it became clear that
  • 29:14
    we were in real trouble when was that
  • 29:17
    when was that well that was probably
  • 29:19
    towards the middle to end of January so
  • 29:23
    now you tell me good one the middle to
  • 29:27
    the end so we have my January 21st
  • 29:30
    January 26 we have him on February 29th
  • 29:33
    and you know and the president came out
  • 29:36
    and did his and I thought it was very
  • 29:38
    entertaining he did his his his
  • 29:42
    Supercuts which was crap it was then it
  • 29:47
    was a she she was a free beacon and have
  • 29:50
    them do it he could have called us the
  • 29:53
    curry consulting group which has
  • 29:55
    recommended this struggling but Navarro
  • 29:57
    fired Dvorak already if we read we
  • 30:01
    recommended this strategy and it was the
  • 30:05
    Ross Perot strategist dynamite but it
  • 30:07
    was poorly executed and immediately and
  • 30:11
    you can see these you can see these
  • 30:13
    jamoke sitting there with their phones
  • 30:15
    on on their laps and they're literally
  • 30:20
    waiting for their editor to say oh ask
  • 30:22
    this question so immediately after that
  • 30:25
    it was this is campaign style this is a
  • 30:28
    campaign style video campaign style let
  • 30:31
    me see I think I have a clip here about
  • 30:33
    this was the maybe I don't have it here
  • 30:39
    hmm shit I had a whole NPR thing about
  • 30:44
    this oh where is it well I guess not see
  • 30:55
    if we had anything else we had a lot of
  • 30:57
    different questions in the in the past
  • 31:00
    couple of days the one that came up
  • 31:06
    yesterday which also has been out and
  • 31:08
    talked about for a while that we kind of
  • 31:11
    started it from day one when this wet
  • 31:13
    market story came up and it was kind of
  • 31:15
    interesting we did a
  • 31:18
    a video chat my sisters and I on I think
  • 31:20
    Monday and willows in Italy Tiffany's in
  • 31:23
    Amsterdam and I'm here in Austin and
  • 31:25
    we're talking and you know Tiffany she
  • 31:27
    says well I don't understand why the
  • 31:28
    Chinese are opening those wet markets
  • 31:30
    that makes no sense and Willow and I go
  • 31:32
    because that's not where it started and
  • 31:35
    she's like no yes it did and yes these
  • 31:38
    are these stories that get stuck in
  • 31:39
    people's heads they've been so
  • 31:41
    reinforced by the media that that will
  • 31:43
    of course probably be the story forever
  • 31:45
    depending on what happens but there was
  • 31:48
    a nice set up yesterday in the Rose
  • 31:49
    Garden during the briefing and I say
  • 31:52
    setup because it was a clear one Fox
  • 31:54
    News hello and this is the report about
  • 31:58
    reports of this virus having escaped or
  • 32:02
    been leaked from a nearby bio lab we've
  • 32:05
    been saying this there was a possibility
  • 32:07
    for months mr. president
  • 32:09
    multiple sources are telling Fox News
  • 32:12
    today that the United States government
  • 32:14
    now has high confidence that while the
  • 32:16
    corona virus is a naturally occurring
  • 32:18
    virus it emanated from a virology lab in
  • 32:23
    Wuhan that because of lack safety
  • 32:25
    protocols and in turn was infected who
  • 32:28
    later infected her boyfriend and then
  • 32:30
    went to the wet market in Wuhan where it
  • 32:32
    began to spread does that correspond
  • 32:34
    with what you have heard from well I
  • 32:36
    don't want to say that John but I will
  • 32:38
    tell you more and more we're hearing the
  • 32:40
    story and we'll see when you say
  • 32:42
    multiple sources though there's a case
  • 32:44
    where you can use the word sources but
  • 32:46
    we are doing a very thorough examination
  • 32:49
    of this horrible situation that happened
  • 32:52
    god please in your many conversations
  • 32:54
    with President Xi mr. president did you
  • 32:56
    ever discuss with him State Department
  • 32:58
    concerns about lack safety protocols
  • 33:01
    that had been reported to the State
  • 33:03
    Department from the embassy in Beijing
  • 33:04
    about that laboratory I don't want to
  • 33:06
    discuss what I talked to him about the
  • 33:08
    laboratory I just don't want to discuss
  • 33:10
    it it's inappropriate right now please
  • 33:12
    go ahead okay set up question he's
  • 33:14
    clearly put his stake in the ground when
  • 33:17
    he and you know it's like hey someone's
  • 33:19
    need someone needs to own up to this and
  • 33:21
    I started to figure it out what he may
  • 33:24
    be doing here or where he's coming from
  • 33:27
    the day before he had a sit-down in the
  • 33:31
    Cabinet Room with several survivors of
  • 33:35
    coronavirus including the Michigan
  • 33:37
    States representative Campbell and she
  • 33:41
    spoke for a little bit and there's a
  • 33:42
    former football player NFL guy and just
  • 33:46
    an array of different people who of
  • 33:49
    course all had taken hydroxychloroquine
  • 33:51
    and lived to tell the tale and so is
  • 33:53
    about a 45-minute meeting but in that
  • 33:55
    meeting he did the 1917 thing again but
  • 33:59
    he went just that little bit further and
  • 34:01
    I think I kind of know what's happening
  • 34:03
    and why he consistently calls the
  • 34:05
    Spanish flu they flew that started in
  • 34:08
    1917 instead of 1918 I want to thank
  • 34:11
    everybody this has been incredible I
  • 34:12
    thought this would be a five-minute
  • 34:14
    meeting but I found each one of your
  • 34:16
    stories so interesting and hopefully the
  • 34:20
    media can play some of these tears
  • 34:21
    because they just just you know we're
  • 34:24
    going through something the likes of
  • 34:26
    which I guess we've never seen maybe you
  • 34:28
    go back to 1917 1918 that was the big
  • 34:31
    that was the big plague that was the big
  • 34:34
    one man anywhere from Mike I guess
  • 34:37
    seventy-five to a hundred million people
  • 34:39
    died which started here started in a
  • 34:42
    certain location that I don't want to
  • 34:43
    say because I love that location so I'm
  • 34:46
    not going to say it but it started in
  • 34:48
    this country and actually got brought to
  • 34:49
    Europe and Europe is word did it's you
  • 34:51
    know thousands of people died here large
  • 34:54
    numbers but in Europe tens of millions
  • 34:57
    of people died so we gave them no favor
  • 35:00
    when whoever it is went over to Europe
  • 35:02
    right no favor so the nineteen seventeen
  • 35:06
    seventeen only works if you believe this
  • 35:09
    if you believe that the Spanish flu
  • 35:11
    started in 1917 and by 1918 was killing
  • 35:15
    people in Europe and that we were
  • 35:17
    responsible for it
  • 35:18
    and here's where it gets really weird
  • 35:20
    but first I think that what Trump the
  • 35:23
    reason for Trump doing this part one is
  • 35:25
    he saying hey we're owning up to that we
  • 35:29
    killed the 80 million people was
  • 35:31
    something that we carried over from 1917
  • 35:34
    in tonight by the way catch up to that
  • 35:37
    number bitches we killed 80
  • 35:40
    we killed 80 million where you at whoo
  • 35:42
    ha
  • 35:44
    so I think he's using this to say a is
  • 35:47
    okay you can own up to a mistake or
  • 35:49
    something that happened that may be part
  • 35:52
    of it but when I started to research you
  • 35:54
    know this was Kansas where that started
  • 35:56
    oh my god do you know that Kansas you
  • 35:59
    know Plum Island no I do not know Plum
  • 36:02
    Island Plum Island in New York is where
  • 36:04
    they did all the bio testing very famous
  • 36:07
    you can't get on it is locked down big
  • 36:10
    notes you can only kind of float around
  • 36:12
    it with a boat is where the where all of
  • 36:15
    the virality tests were done yeah
  • 36:18
    Oh up until 2019 because in 2019 the US
  • 36:29
    Department of Agriculture took over the
  • 36:33
    NBF Animal Disease lab which is now a
  • 36:36
    wait for it a level 4 bio lab and this
  • 36:43
    happened in 2019 and there's just right
  • 36:45
    outside of New York City no it's in Kent
  • 36:48
    well that plum plum island had that I
  • 36:50
    don't know if it's right outside yeah I
  • 36:52
    guess so I guess it is kind of in the
  • 36:54
    water outside New York City but they
  • 36:56
    moved all of that to Kansas when in 2019
  • 37:00
    oh okay well okay I'm just trying to
  • 37:03
    associate it back with it with the so
  • 37:06
    fluid so the 19 no it has nothing to do
  • 37:09
    with the 20 with an with the with the
  • 37:11
    1917 flu other than by coincidence it
  • 37:15
    came from Kansas that may be a
  • 37:18
    coincidence
  • 37:19
    I don't know as I'm looking at Kansas
  • 37:21
    just wait wait is searching around are
  • 37:23
    they confusing me I don't want to start
  • 37:25
    right now I'll take you back I'll take
  • 37:27
    you back Trump keeps saying 1917 and
  • 37:31
    journalists tried to correct him and he
  • 37:33
    didn't he kept saying it now he explains
  • 37:35
    the whole thing it came from us not some
  • 37:38
    people said he said it came from us in
  • 37:40
    1917 and in 1918 there was the huge
  • 37:44
    Spanish flu we're number one we killed
  • 37:47
    80,000 people why won't you why 80
  • 37:50
    million why won't you china own up to
  • 37:52
    your mistakes
  • 37:54
    I think that's part of what's going on
  • 37:56
    by coincidence
  • 37:58
    when I looked at Kansas and I searched
  • 38:01
    Kansas bio virus 1917 I didn't come up
  • 38:06
    with anything for 1917 but it turns out
  • 38:09
    that we have this huge bio lab in Kansas
  • 38:12
    which took the Plum Island facilities
  • 38:15
    last year it was switched it used to be
  • 38:18
    a the animal disease lab and now it's a
  • 38:22
    USDA bio lab bio level for the same as
  • 38:27
    Wuhan ok so it's there's no conclusion I
  • 38:32
    wish we didn't have to go through it
  • 38:34
    twice it's just interesting that that's
  • 38:36
    there and if we take it to its natural
  • 38:40
    conclusion the CDC first developed and
  • 38:44
    accidentally released kovat in 2004
  • 38:48
    before they went to train people in
  • 38:51
    China how to do it I have a long clip
  • 38:54
    here I don't know if it would be
  • 38:55
    interesting to listen to see joining us
  • 38:58
    tonight to take all of this and more up
  • 39:00
    dr. Michael Pillsbury director of the
  • 39:02
    center for Chinese strategy at the
  • 39:04
    Hudson Institute author of the hundred
  • 39:07
    year marathon my kid is ready to have
  • 39:10
    you with us this early warning coming
  • 39:14
    from the State Department about Wuhan
  • 39:16
    the Burrow and the virology lab they're
  • 39:20
    combine that with the warnings from the
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    Taiwanese to the World Health
  • 39:26
    Organization last fall why it was there
  • 39:30
    not a better understanding of what we
  • 39:33
    were dealing with on the part of the
  • 39:35
    World Health Organization and the
  • 39:37
    Chinese government itself well first of
  • 39:41
    all loo there's a lot of wishful
  • 39:42
    thinking about China being open in our
  • 39:45
    friend and sharing things with us you
  • 39:47
    find in the story of this laboratory and
  • 39:49
    the Wuhan that we're deeply involved in
  • 39:52
    it the University of Texas was providing
  • 39:54
    support to them the lead researcher dr.
  • 39:57
    sure she has been to the u.s. a lot
  • 40:00
    she's the subject of a profile her
  • 40:03
    nickname in China is bat lady doctor
  • 40:06
    sure goes to
  • 40:07
    caves extracts the bats gets the viruses
  • 40:10
    out and then cultivates them in the
  • 40:12
    laboratory now what she was apparently
  • 40:14
    doing is revealed in these cables but a
  • 40:17
    lot of American scientists who know her
  • 40:19
    they already knew this will stop how
  • 40:23
    could you even think that this isn't
  • 40:25
    interesting because you've breakfast
  • 40:29
    because he's about so we have a bat lady
  • 40:31
    in Texas that's right down the street
  • 40:33
    from you yes yeah okay what do you mean
  • 40:37
    you don't find it interesting no I
  • 40:39
    thought it's fascinating okay you kind
  • 40:42
    of scare me them like what he doesn't
  • 40:43
    think it's interesting no you you you
  • 40:45
    prefaced it with it with a negative
  • 40:47
    commentary well because they know you
  • 40:49
    might not find this interesting but it's
  • 40:51
    you have a bat lady and in your town I
  • 40:55
    know do you know that we have bats in
  • 40:58
    Texas in Austin under the bridge if
  • 41:01
    you're not a bats and so in San
  • 41:02
    Antonio's got a lot of bats it's an
  • 41:04
    attraction here do you think that'll go
  • 41:06
    away after you're crazy to go to bats
  • 41:09
    might poop on them I don't think they I
  • 41:10
    don't think people are gonna go on the
  • 41:11
    bridge anymore it's Austin to watch him
  • 41:14
    it's sundown to fly away
  • 41:15
    all right back word back to the bat lady
  • 41:18
    she is adding something called
  • 41:19
    gain-of-function to a virus to a corona
  • 41:24
    virus in theory this is extremely
  • 41:26
    dangerous why would the United States
  • 41:28
    fund her to do this that's a an open
  • 41:31
    question at this point it's beginning to
  • 41:33
    look like the wet to wildlife market
  • 41:36
    theory is not correct that's a theory
  • 41:38
    that China started that these cases
  • 41:41
    somehow are coming out of that market so
  • 41:43
    our senators were calling for the market
  • 41:45
    to be closed they may be on the wrong
  • 41:46
    track it may be that it's the CDC and
  • 41:50
    other American agencies helping the
  • 41:53
    Chinese they wanted more money these two
  • 41:55
    cables revealed they wanted more money
  • 41:57
    to go to the lab to help doctor sure be
  • 42:00
    more safe now why is that because one of
  • 42:03
    the gain-of-function features is to see
  • 42:07
    if a virus can spread more rapidly to
  • 42:09
    humans they don't necessarily spread to
  • 42:12
    humans
  • 42:12
    so this is very dangerous research we
  • 42:14
    did it to in the Atlanta in the CDC we
  • 42:17
    had an accident about 2000
  • 42:20
    for so so the scientists may have been
  • 42:24
    sent down from our embassy to ohan to
  • 42:26
    make sure the same kind of accident we
  • 42:29
    had in Atlanta didn't happen with her
  • 42:31
    perhaps far more dangerous viruses so
  • 42:33
    now this is a whole new theory Lu that
  • 42:35
    instead of the the wildlife market where
  • 42:38
    there were no bats
  • 42:39
    I mean bats don't get sold there this
  • 42:42
    may have a different origin which in
  • 42:44
    turn affects what could happen next the
  • 42:46
    mystery is getting deeper new so but I
  • 42:48
    don't have clips for but what carries on
  • 42:51
    from this is the way the bat lady was
  • 42:53
    experimenting was with something that
  • 42:56
    I'd Lee has been found there's some
  • 42:58
    proteins in the corona virus the SARS
  • 43:02
    Cove - two that are identical to HIV and
  • 43:09
    the theory is that this virus was
  • 43:14
    created in a lab not necessarily as a
  • 43:16
    bio leaven bioweapon but it was created
  • 43:19
    in the lab and you use the HIV
  • 43:22
    I think it's proteins and specifically
  • 43:25
    gp120 and G p40 and that contains the
  • 43:30
    SARS virus in it and so it gets into the
  • 43:34
    system through those GP 40 and gp120 s
  • 43:37
    if that makes any sense I don't know
  • 43:39
    what I'm talking about I've just read an
  • 43:41
    incredible amount what's interesting
  • 43:43
    about those two specific proteins GP for
  • 43:47
    T and I think this variations can be
  • 43:49
    4741 and the 120 is there are about 20
  • 43:55
    patents all of which have found a Mon it
  • 43:59
    and I've put a couple of articles in the
  • 44:02
    show notes under foul Chi you can find
  • 44:04
    it in a show notes calm very interesting
  • 44:07
    to read exactly what went down according
  • 44:10
    to multiple accounts but some of its
  • 44:12
    historical with HIV and Falchi and the
  • 44:15
    whole team really including Bill Gates
  • 44:17
    and the Clinton Global Initiative and
  • 44:19
    all these guys so we've had massive
  • 44:24
    failures on our side we've had massive
  • 44:27
    failures in China obviously but Trump is
  • 44:31
    taking all of this and is going to blame
  • 44:32
    the whole
  • 44:34
    on the WHL the World Health Organization
  • 44:38
    I feel the CDC should get some some flak
  • 44:42
    they're not getting it by the way the
  • 44:44
    the chief of the CDC was a part of the
  • 44:47
    Harvard I'm sorry that John Hopkins
  • 44:49
    event 201 he's all so tightly tied into
  • 44:55
    foul Chi from previous business
  • 44:57
    the CDC guy so whether they screwed up
  • 45:00
    tests or not they're being protected by
  • 45:02
    the President and he's saying it was the
  • 45:05
    whu-oh and the way he's gonna tie it
  • 45:07
    together is by saying China does not
  • 45:10
    recognize Taiwan China has complete