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1231: Mask QR Raid

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

3h 29m
April 5th, 2020
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Executive Producers: Sir Francis of SRQ, Duke of SW Florida, Sir James Irvine Knight of the RV, Anonymous, Sir Jellyhead, Sir Jobin of the Visual Effects, Sir Cal of Lavender Blossoms, Sir Howitzer, Robert Taylor, Sir Render – Baron of the GPU, Daniel Sheetz, Dame Isabella and Dame Melody Fugazotto, Amy of the Wine Country, Janosch Moser

Associate Executive Producers: Jack Gennuso, Allison Avon, Jonathan Evans, Lou Stemmler, Dame Mary of River Rouge, Brett Albert, Sir Tristan Banning, Katherine Richardson, Andrew Kemp

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Woodstock
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    but the podcaster podcaster let me
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    through let me go Adam Curry
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    Jhansi Dvorak's 2020 this is your
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    award-winning get money should media
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    assassination episode 1231 this is no
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    agenda
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    [Music]
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    the drone star state in the morning
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    everybody
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    I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon
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    Valley where I'm remembering the ones
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    king of the online services I'm John C
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    Dvorak you kill me man
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    this is what you're thinking of the
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    genie service from General Electric back
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    in the days of prodigy yeah prodigy is
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    another one
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    yeah well prodigy was see hers wasn't it
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    Sears there's a it was three companies
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    they were doing a joint as a joint
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    venture with Sears and two others I
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    can't remember where they were all right
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    and that but then Jeannie demanded
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    Jeannie ever make it past the floppy
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    discs well they went what do you think
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    what would you think their years of
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    existence were gosh I really don't know
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    but that's a good I know a o L we know
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    prodigy I think it closed out for a
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    couple of years had the weird graphics
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    but Jeannie no I don't remember 1985 it
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    came out it ended until the end of 1999
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    huh yeah who still has a genie do they
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    even have email back there's just it was
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    just an account it was not it's not even
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    an email address at the time no they had
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    a whole system it was very much like
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    CompuServe hmm another phone before all
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    of them went graphical I mean once AOL
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    came out with the G GUI which stalled
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    the Internet I mean the web came out by
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    then it was rolling alone to say the
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    least because he had the dot-com crash
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    from the web right and at the same time
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    you had these other services that were
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    kind of struggling with how to how to
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    incorporate the mouse on how that gets
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    traction and then AOL just kind of wiped
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    them all out and AOL it was thought to
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    be the
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    operations gonna take over the web was a
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    joke oh no that's even a even AOL
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    thought that you've got mail they're
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    like ah you don't want that dangerous
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    Internet well here's a here's a way he
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    work he will Jen he words the way to go
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    exactly I got these new headphones which
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    I'm still trying to get used to all
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    right one of our producers turned me on
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    to the nura headphones in ura and what's
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    interesting about these is now they're
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    supposed to deliver an unparalleled
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    immersive experience with music which
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    they do 100% the reason why I have them
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    is inside the they're over the ear
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    headphones inside the cones they
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    actually have two tubes that go directly
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    into your ears
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    yeah which they'll like my hearing aids
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    which is what I need because then I can
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    crank it up as loud as I want without
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    any feedback zero feedback down yeah
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    well that's a plus yeah only only they
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    sound a little different than the other
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    ones so it you know it takes a little
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    getting used to
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    yeah your tubes man it's the future
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    no you're drilling in your brain you
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    would like these headphones they don't
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    like it I seriously liked because of the
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    sound or a pair and I still have one
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    pair of these had two pair at one time I
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    get one pair way of Sony electrostatic
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    would they leak
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    you can't crank those up really loud
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    they leak
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    well electrostatic sensitive to
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    everything I know but I have a hearing
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    issue so I need crutches man well past
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    couple of days have made it clear to me
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    all data we're seeing is bogus I thought
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    that was make clear to you earlier no
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    it's it once I hear the press asking
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    questions in the corona
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    team the corona virus was a corona virus
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    task force briefing and the question is
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    hey you're gonna publish that data and
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    everyone's look at each other going like
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    home and a home
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    hamona no I don't think so we can't
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    trust government we can't trust the the
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    hospitals there's just endless reports
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    from our own producers as well of people
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    being declared having died from
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    coronavirus and it's just not true well
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    they actually have at least two of our
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    producers that have discussed this one
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    of them they don't discuss it the way I
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    looked at it which was yes my granddad
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    whoever it was died and he didn't have
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    corona but after he died they checked
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    him again he had corona right we had
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    another one he says just to tell you
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    guys that just summarizing these notes
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    just to tell you guys we I took her own
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    is real my brother or somebody very
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    close to him died and even though he
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    didn't was he tested negative for corona
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    just before he died
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    they tested them again he had corona and
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    so I'm thinking they're just like
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    throwing everything in that corona bin
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    when we have now and I suggested this to
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    me me we had one of the worst flu
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    seasons this year that was the a and
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    then the B he had both of them that was
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    not a pushed back by the flu shot the
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    flu shot was ineffective and so nobody's
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    talking about that nobody started might
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    you know if you remember year after year
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    right until June yeah you should still
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    get a flu shot I just sent you on the
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    Skype messenger I'd like it if you could
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    just go in there and click that I found
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    this yesterday and this is a chart from
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    I think it's from the CDC and it shows
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    pneumonia deaths weekly for the past for
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    the 2014-15 season the 15 16 16 17 17 18
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    18 19 19 20 do you see it yeah so if you
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    look at the 1920 you see these 20 yet
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    2019 2020 I'm sorry 2019 2020 the
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    redline yeah
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    around January it starts to diverge from
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    the past five years and goes down
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    significantly I mean just a complete
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    anomalous trend to every other year and
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    all I can think is and these are
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    pneumonia deaths that you're looking at
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    is that a lot of these got attributed to
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    coronavirus yeah especially with the
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    very severe flu season you'd expect
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    expect the inverse to happen it probably
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    is exactly the inverse of the of the
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    reporting of the cases and deaths well
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    also I think that as I've suggested and
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    Trump suggested this in the press
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    conference when he was talking about the
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    empty Mir the ship that's in New York
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    harbors when I got like 20 people in it
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    yeah he says you know if everyone's told
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    to stay at home and do social distancing
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    the flute everything's gonna go down
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    colds yes traffic accidents you know all
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    these numbers are gonna go falling
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    through the floor and I guess you could
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    and I suggested in the newsletter that
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    well maybe if you know this graph being
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    a good example well maybe we should just
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    all shelter in place from January to
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    like I don't know maybe June first as a
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    country and we won't you know will
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    happen what you know have less deaths
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    well okay probably it's a mess so the
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    data is a mess I'd like to talk about
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    the testing but kind of came just out of
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    left field showed up yesterday this
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    doctor from New York who claims to be an
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    ICU doctor in Brooklyn the name checks
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    out the picture looks the same so I can
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    only presume this is the same guy young
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    doctor and he's been posting he's posted
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    three different YouTube videos he's
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    definitely reading parts of it off of
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    his screen now I'm just being careful
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    because it's you know this is a guy in
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    his in his kitchen who knows but he
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    looks like he checks out and he has a
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    very disturbing observation hi this is
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    dr. Cameron Kyle
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    Aeon critical care doctor from New York
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    City we are working extremely hard under
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    extremely stressed conditions were
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    stressed not only over concern of our
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    own health but because we are watching
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    people dying of a disease we do not
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    understand of a disease we have never
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    seen before right now it is as if the
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    Train is slamming down the track at an
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    extremely high velocity under extremely
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    stress conditions but we don't know
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    where we're going we are putting
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    breathing tubes in people and putting
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    them on a ventilators and dialing up the
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    pressure to open their lungs I've talked
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    to doctors all around the country and
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    it's becoming increasingly clear that
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    the pressure we are providing may be
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    hurting their lungs that it is highly
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    likely that the high pressures we are
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    using are damaging the lungs of the
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    patients we are putting the breathing
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    tubes in it's not our fault
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    we didn't know this is how we treat a
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    RDS this is how we've treated it for the
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    last 20 years two days ago the Italians
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    came out with a letter stating the same
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    thing that we are running the
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    ventilators in the wrong way right now
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    other news is saying that 100 to 250
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    thousand people in this country may die
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    that means 100 and 250 thousand people
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    may be put on a ventilator
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    that is programmed wrong we can change
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    those protocols we need to change those
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    protocols kovat positive patients need
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    oxygen they do not need pressure they
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    will need ventilators but they must be
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    programmed differently the protocols in
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    this country in every small big
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    medium-size Hospital in this country
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    must change they can change the time for
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    us to change them is rapidly diminishing
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    but we do have time but that time is now
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    we have to change the protocols please
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    spread the message I find that rather
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    concerning well I have a ventilator
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    report then oh very good because all we
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    seem to care about is are there enough
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    how many will anyone die without one but
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    no one's really talking about the
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    protocol used it may be a more - there's
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    maybe more to it than just that okay
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    let's see what got me on this is that
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    Trump again he had a very strange very
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    strange ventilator commentary this is
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    the clip Trump versus the ventilators
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    which kind of got me triggered into
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    finding this other clip
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    as if you do have a ventilator what do
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    you chances and I just hope that hydroxy
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    cleric win-wins
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    coupled with perhaps the z-pak as we
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    fall it dependent totally on your
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    doctors and the doctors there because
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    you know the answer to that question if
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    you do have the ventilator you know the
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    answer to that question and I hate
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    giving the answer so I don't want to get
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    them there I don't want to get them
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    there there's a possibility a
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    possibility and I say it what do you
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    have to lose I'll say to get what do you
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    have to lose take it I really think they
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    should take it but it's their choice and
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    it's the doctor's choice or the doctors
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    in the hospital but hydroxychloroquine
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    try it if you'd like the other thing
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    this is some creepy shit he's doing here
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    out of context without the video it's
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    like hey kids know better there's no
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    better that's the best with what with
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    the z-pak as we call it kids want a
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    z-pak
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    but hydroxychloroquine try it if you'd
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    like the other thing if you have a heart
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    condition I understand
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    probably you stay away from the z-pak
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    but that's an antibiotic it can clean
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    out the lungs the lungs are a point of
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    attack for this horrible virus but when
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    you have a ventilator don't ask the
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    answer because I hate it if you have it
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    and it's working beautifully
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    I don't like the answer because it's not
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    a very high percentage so I want to keep
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    them out of ventilators I want to keep
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    them if this drug works it will be not a
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    game-changer because that's not a nice
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    enough term it will be wonderful it'll
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    be so beautiful it'll be a gift from
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    heaven and it works because when people
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    go into those ventilators you know the
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    answers I know the answers and I'm glad
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    you don't write about it a mic please
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    holy crap so that that confirms that
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    ventilators is a death sentence
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    well he's glad nobody writes about it
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    but apparently that's not true with NPR
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    clip wanna hear about it goes this is
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    the ventilator report from NPR the
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    intensive care units at barnes-jewish
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    hospital in st. Louis are filling up
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    with coronavirus patients and dr.
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    Tiffany Osborn has been caring for many
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    of those who've been placed on
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    ventilators to keep them alive it's very
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    concerning to see how many patients who
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    require ventilation do not make it out
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    of the hospital how many of them died
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    Osborn is a critical care specialist at
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    Washington University School of Medicine
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    she says doctors in China and Europe and
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    elsewhere in the u.s. are reporting
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    death rates from about 50 percent to
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    more than 80 percent we're not sure how
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    much help ventilators are going to be
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    they may help keep somebody alive in the
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    short term we're not sure if it's gonna
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    help keep someone alive in a long term
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    patients end up on a ventilator when
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    their lungs can no longer deliver enough
  • 14:20
    oxygen to keep the body going cause
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    Bourn says it's an extreme measure we
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    give sedation so that the person goes to
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    sleep and then we provide a paralytic
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    that stops their breathing next they
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    insert a long plastic tube through the
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    trachea and vocal cords that allows a
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    machine to deliver puffs of highly
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    oxygenated air to the lungs the
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    ventilator itself can do damage to the
  • 14:43
    lung tissue based on how much pressure
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    is required to help oxygen get processed
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    by the lungs and Osborn says coronavirus
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    patients often need
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    Dursley high levels of both pressure and
  • 14:57
    oxygen because their lungs have so much
  • 14:59
    inflammation also ventilators create a
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    path for a wide range of infections to
  • 15:04
    reach the lungs doctor Nagin Hodges IJ
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    is a pulmonary critical care doctor at
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    hofstra North Wales School of Medicine
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    in New York
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    she says ventilators work really well
  • 15:15
    for patients with common forms of
  • 15:17
    pneumonia we treat patients for several
  • 15:19
    days and then we get the antibiotics
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    into the body and the patient recovers
  • 15:23
    unfortunately with this kovat associated
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    pneumonia there are no treatments that
  • 15:27
    we know work for sure so Hajis Ida who
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    spoke to me from just outside of an
  • 15:32
    intensive care unit says ventilators are
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    of limited value Wow for the amount of
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    noise the m5m has been making about him
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    this is that's very creepy yeah now we
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    know now we know a lot of people are put
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    on ventilators very quickly with a mass
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    not intubated with a mask in order to
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    keep anything they might be exhaling out
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    of the hospital air but once you go to
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    intubation it sounds like you're dead
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    sounds like it to me too
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    which is what Trump was indicating Trump
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    has been really pushing this drug and
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    trying not to be - he didn't bring up to
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    80% death rate there's just a little
  • 16:17
    more follow-up informations not much but
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    it's part two here says ventilators are
  • 16:21
    of limited value we have had several
  • 16:24
    patients between the hospitals across
  • 16:26
    the north wall Health System that have
  • 16:28
    come off of the breathing machine but
  • 16:30
    the vast majority are unable to Hodges
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    Aude says one reason is that the corona
  • 16:35
    virus often does a lot more lung damage
  • 16:37
    than say the flu there is fluid and
  • 16:41
    other toxic chemical cytokines we call
  • 16:43
    them raging throughout the lung tissue
  • 16:45
    she says in some patients the damage is
  • 16:48
    so bad that even ventilation won't help
  • 16:50
    so they've tried an even more extreme
  • 16:52
    measure called ECMO which delivers
  • 16:54
    oxygen directly to a patient's
  • 16:56
    bloodstream
  • 16:57
    remember ECMO too is a life supporting
  • 16:59
    treatment so it's a bridge while we are
  • 17:02
    allowing the lung to heal itself from a
  • 17:05
    pneumonia if it can dr. Tiffany Osborne
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    says that what doctors are learning
  • 17:10
    about severe coronavirus infections
  • 17:12
    should make it crystal clear while we
  • 17:14
    all need to take steps to keep the virus
  • 17:16
    from spreading I know that at times it
  • 17:19
    gets frustrating but it's really
  • 17:23
    important not just for yourself and your
  • 17:24
    family but for the the other people that
  • 17:28
    you care about to shelter in place until
  • 17:33
    this is over
  • 17:33
    Osbourne should know when she's not at
  • 17:35
    the hospital she's living in a camper to
  • 17:37
    avoid putting her family at risk well
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    this is rather concerning and I'll add
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    to that that the doctor and I had
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    watched all of his videos he said in
  • 17:47
    another piece he said that it looked
  • 17:49
    like the he says he's never been to
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    Mount Everest but he said he could
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    imagine the way people look when they
  • 17:55
    get put on the ventilator is that they
  • 17:57
    need oxygen like they get dropped off at
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    you know 20,000 feet on the summit
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    somewhere and just don't have enough
  • 18:03
    oxygen they'd like to go and blue in the
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    face and but he felt that the pressure
  • 18:09
    was actually hurting their lungs this is
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    concerning cuz this is new information
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    that isn't official it's just kind of
  • 18:15
    floating out there and now we have to
  • 18:18
    find out about it and speculate is that
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    the idea this is you cannot trust the
  • 18:22
    government and the media anymore it's
  • 18:23
    nothing really nothing now it's it's
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    it's just insulting to watch well
  • 18:29
    especially after we had to go through
  • 18:30
    this back and forth with Trump and Cuomo
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    about all we need 30,000 40,000
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    ventilators which is you would dunno
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    what you're gonna just death sentence
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    for like you know 30 or 40 thousand
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    people and with no explanation all we
  • 18:47
    hear is the word ventilator well
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    ventilated so it sounds like a good
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    thing now you have to knock you out with
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    a push in a semi-comatose State and then
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    paralyze your lungs so you can't breathe
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    and then shove this tube down your
  • 18:59
    throat through your vocal cords and then
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    push air in there but using pressure
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    what could it do what could possibly
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    damn
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    yeah yeah well so let's just continue
  • 19:13
    with some of the complete lack of
  • 19:15
    information so just back to data testing
  • 19:19
    I'm starting to figure it out I've had
  • 19:22
    we have as it turns out once again many
  • 19:24
    producers who either work in labs have
  • 19:27
    spouses who work in labs who understand
  • 19:30
    the assay the assays I'm learning all
  • 19:34
    these terms the Eliza which is the test
  • 19:38
    that we're currently working on which is
  • 19:40
    the enzyme linked immunosorbent assay
  • 19:43
    ASSA why I say hey so these are all
  • 19:46
    studies and although they are now coming
  • 19:50
    with the PCR and the qPCR and the now
  • 19:54
    what's the forget the other name of the
  • 19:57
    test to date they pretty much test for a
  • 20:02
    corona virus not specifically the SARS
  • 20:05
    coronavirus - - which means a lot of
  • 20:11
    this testing could be a false positive
  • 20:12
    for something that you have that may not
  • 20:15
    be the actual corona virus strain that
  • 20:18
    is apparently the killer so that leaves
  • 20:23
    a lot of room for error in what we're
  • 20:26
    doing especially since it's clearly the
  • 20:29
    Gates Foundation driving the data
  • 20:31
    driving the numbers in fact driving the
  • 20:33
    narrative this needs to be looked at
  • 20:36
    very closely and we can't count on the
  • 20:39
    media to do it so we can't deconstruct
  • 20:42
    the media other than ok they suck now
  • 20:45
    let's do some of our own work and I got
  • 20:48
    four clips here from Burks and deborah
  • 20:51
    birx who is also all in on the Gates
  • 20:55
    Foundation so it's getting kind of
  • 20:57
    disturbing when you see how many people
  • 20:58
    are connected so testing ways you know
  • 21:04
    we're trying to use testing now to
  • 21:05
    understand who has it if you're positive
  • 21:08
    whatever that means I guess now it's if
  • 21:10
    you have a sniffle and you have maybe a
  • 21:12
    cold which could be a corona virus not
  • 21:14
    the one we're talking about certainly
  • 21:16
    not the El strange something else that
  • 21:18
    is just not being tracked which strains
  • 21:20
    are people infected in with
  • 21:26
    the testing will also be used to find
  • 21:31
    out who has had the the corona virus and
  • 21:36
    if you've built up antibodies and this
  • 21:38
    is important to understand because this
  • 21:40
    is how we're going to be released either
  • 21:43
    the miracle game-changer
  • 21:47
    hydroxychloroquine does the job it seems
  • 21:49
    like there's a lot of pushback with
  • 21:51
    entire with governors forbidding an
  • 21:53
    entire state to use it and Trump just
  • 21:57
    keeps hammering it over and over again
  • 21:58
    there seems to be reluctance that could
  • 22:00
    also be because there's commercial
  • 22:01
    versions but I think that's a plaque win
  • 22:06
    or palak win pack pack well in which is
  • 22:11
    Hydra which is a hydroxychloroquine by a
  • 22:13
    brand name I guess they don't have it
  • 22:15
    who knows what's going on but the other
  • 22:16
    part is the testing and testing is very
  • 22:19
    inconsistent and is open to
  • 22:22
    interpretations not being made here's
  • 22:23
    Burks what we're trying gating right now
  • 22:25
    and instead of working on our are not
  • 22:28
    we're looking at testing and
  • 22:31
    triangulating testing test positive
  • 22:34
    cases hospitalizations I see use and the
  • 22:38
    whole and the course the recoveries
  • 22:40
    because that's also very important to us
  • 22:42
    I think it's very important that the
  • 22:44
    American people know that there are
  • 22:46
    equal number of states with less than
  • 22:48
    five percent positives despite high
  • 22:50
    levels of testing so there's states that
  • 22:53
    are mitigating and making this work
  • 22:56
    they're also the states that you know of
  • 22:58
    the eighteen states that have the larger
  • 23:02
    outbreaks and we're watching them very
  • 23:04
    carefully triangulating for them all of
  • 23:07
    the information to ensure that clients
  • 23:09
    who come to the hospital are cared for
  • 23:11
    so this leaves an interpretation open
  • 23:14
    she says oh it's because of mitigation
  • 23:16
    these states have a much lower positive
  • 23:18
    test rate I'm not so sure that's the
  • 23:20
    only interpretation it's also possible
  • 23:23
    that there's a completely different
  • 23:24
    strain in the eighteen city she
  • 23:26
    mentioned I didn't know this was a thing
  • 23:28
    the eighteen cities she said states go
  • 23:31
    state I'm sorry states
  • 23:33
    I don't understand how she can say
  • 23:36
    that's just because of mitigation
  • 23:37
    I think it's possible we're dealing with
  • 23:40
    port cities that may have been infected
  • 23:42
    with something more severe different
  • 23:44
    strains something different all the
  • 23:45
    other we know for a fact there's eight
  • 23:47
    strains a minimum yes eight this talk of
  • 23:51
    40 but the main to the keys yeah well
  • 23:55
    mutate so that's that's to be expected
  • 23:57
    it mutates but you know the main to the
  • 24:00
    S strain and the L strain maybe that was
  • 24:03
    distributed and that kind of fits the
  • 24:04
    theory of carriers were sent out from
  • 24:08
    China into Europe and the United States
  • 24:10
    could be I don't know but I'm not just
  • 24:13
    going to dismiss mitigate mitigation as
  • 24:15
    the answer to that there's some good
  • 24:18
    news which one entirely unreported but
  • 24:20
    the bottom line is and I think going
  • 24:23
    into this weekend it's really important
  • 24:24
    for the American people tough to know
  • 24:26
    this Spain and Italy are moving through
  • 24:29
    this they are seeing their number of
  • 24:32
    cases drop they're seeing the number of
  • 24:34
    people in hospitals drop we are about on
  • 24:38
    our models and on the actual data about
  • 24:41
    12 days behind them
  • 24:43
    okay so that should be celebrated is
  • 24:46
    pretty darn good news if there's a 12
  • 24:50
    day lag and we're gonna be in the same
  • 24:52
    plate Italy's now talking about
  • 24:54
    lessening restrictions I that's that
  • 24:58
    sounds like a really good news to me no
  • 25:01
    one really picked up on it I guess we
  • 25:03
    want the terror to continue uh
  • 25:06
    the yeah here's the yes in order to get
  • 25:14
    this is there gonna be a common theme
  • 25:16
    this is this was also from the briefing
  • 25:19
    that was this was the Steven Hahn he's
  • 25:22
    the FDA I think is a head of the FDA and
  • 25:26
    he spells out very clearly that there's
  • 25:29
    probably going to be a test before
  • 25:31
    anybody can go back to work
  • 25:35
    you can use antibody tests to determine
  • 25:39
    who can go back to work
  • 25:41
    well I don't know I'd rather leave that
  • 25:43
    to the doctor doctor do you have an
  • 25:44
    answer to that we think it'll be a tool
  • 25:46
    to help us get people back to work it'll
  • 25:47
    be additional information because as you
  • 25:49
    know if you have an antibody that means
  • 25:51
    you were exposed and have recovered from
  • 25:53
    it that with the information about
  • 25:55
    diagnosis should help so as you know a
  • 26:07
    couple weeks ago we provided a great
  • 26:09
    deal of regulatory flexibility around
  • 26:10
    this a lot of great developers have been
  • 26:12
    working on this dr. Burks put a call out
  • 26:15
    to the academic labs around the country
  • 26:17
    to do this and we've been working very
  • 26:19
    closely with a number of manufacturers
  • 26:21
    so we think that it can be scaled up
  • 26:23
    relatively quickly there you go so we'll
  • 26:26
    have machines if you want to go back to
  • 26:29
    work if you maybe if you want to go to
  • 26:31
    the grocery store you'll have to be
  • 26:33
    tested on the spot maybe you'll have
  • 26:36
    some kind of proof that you've been
  • 26:38
    tested so you will have to have at
  • 26:40
    minimum an antibody test that shows you
  • 26:43
    are know that you are immune from it
  • 26:46
    that you've had it and that you're a
  • 26:47
    safe safe human resource safe this is so
  • 26:53
    dystopian Trump even hits at the hints
  • 26:56
    at it occurring in more places this
  • 26:58
    testing possibly restricting flies from
  • 27:01
    hot spots we're looking at it very
  • 27:04
    seriously right now we're dealing with
  • 27:07
    governors we're dealing with airlines
  • 27:08
    we're dealing with a lot of different
  • 27:09
    factors it's a very difficult decision
  • 27:12
    we're also doing testing getting into
  • 27:14
    planes very strong testing state to do a
  • 27:18
    testing of people that leave planes
  • 27:19
    because they don't want to have people
  • 27:20
    coming in who are infected so
  • 27:23
    understanding that and the level of
  • 27:25
    testing has been enormous we're working
  • 27:28
    with the governor's ready
  • 27:30
    using testing domestic travel or people
  • 27:33
    coming some states are doing when they
  • 27:35
    land they're doing very strong very
  • 27:37
    powerful testing please go ahead
  • 27:40
    did you check up again this is going to
  • 27:44
    be horrendous well the thing that got me
  • 27:47
    about that particular I he answers the
  • 27:50
    question the guy asks him and then he
  • 27:52
    says then the reporters I check with the
  • 27:53
    airline so they don't know what you're
  • 27:55
    talking about the question hasn't been
  • 27:58
    asked yet so they don't even know what
  • 28:01
    Trump's saying but somehow before he
  • 28:05
    even asked them the question Trump
  • 28:06
    doesn't know what he's talking about
  • 28:07
    makes no sense in fact that press
  • 28:10
    conference was an abomination in many
  • 28:12
    ways I have a number of clips of him
  • 28:14
    giving it to the press if I want to hear
  • 28:18
    those right now but I a well deserved
  • 28:21
    and I want to point out that what is
  • 28:23
    happening with the press and a lot of
  • 28:27
    these journalists I think there's some
  • 28:30
    second-string younger ones you know the
  • 28:32
    old ones are all at home doing their own
  • 28:34
    makeup and want to make sure that they
  • 28:36
    don't die so send the young kids out but
  • 28:39
    they are not being journalists they're
  • 28:42
    there debating the president they're
  • 28:44
    debating him he'll start saying they
  • 28:46
    interrupt debate now but you said right
  • 28:48
    but this is not right
  • 28:49
    how can you go to stuff but how is it
  • 28:53
    it's like shut up for a second it's
  • 28:57
    really yes it's disturbing what they're
  • 29:00
    doing and it's not productive and the
  • 29:02
    questions are insulting if not
  • 29:04
    completely stupid
  • 29:08
    yes it's an embarrassment that's
  • 29:12
    question I want to hear on what you got
  • 29:13
    this plane well I got a couple of them
  • 29:15
    let's play let's start with Trump calls
  • 29:19
    out media for panic okay I don't see
  • 29:27
    that one they're under Trump yeah you
  • 29:32
    said AHA calls out media ah okay this
  • 29:34
    odd it's not an alphabetical order I'm
  • 29:37
    sorry okay here we go
  • 29:39
    clearly our sole consideration we want
  • 29:41
    to save lives we want as few
  • 29:43
    I've lost as possible it's therefore
  • 29:47
    critical that certain media outlets stop
  • 29:50
    spreading false rumors and creating fear
  • 29:55
    and even panic with the public it's just
  • 29:59
    incredible I could name them but it's
  • 30:01
    the same ones always the same ones and I
  • 30:03
    guess they're looking for ratings I
  • 30:04
    don't know what they're looking for so
  • 30:06
    bad for our country and so bad the
  • 30:08
    people understand it these you look at
  • 30:11
    the levels and approval ratings are
  • 30:13
    they're the lowest they've ever been for
  • 30:15
    media it's so bad for for our country so
  • 30:19
    bad for the world you know put it
  • 30:22
    together for a little while get this
  • 30:23
    over with and then go back to your fake
  • 30:25
    news I'll agree and disagree with them
  • 30:28
    yes is very bad so bad for the world but
  • 30:31
    the ratings are off the hook
  • 30:32
    yeah he kind of suggested that yeah they
  • 30:36
    are off the hook
  • 30:36
    tried this one Trump news conference
  • 30:38
    blast reporter yes schedules the banks
  • 30:59
    have been great through Morgan Chase
  • 31:01
    Bank of America they're so far ahead
  • 31:05
    this is typical with you in particular
  • 31:08
    we hear they're behind what they're not
  • 31:11
    behind it's been a flawless it's been
  • 31:14
    flawless so far far beyond our
  • 31:16
    expectations
  • 31:17
    you should say I hear you're doing well
  • 31:19
    but maybe I don't even hear of any
  • 31:21
    glitch they've done it billions of
  • 31:24
    dollars of loans to small businessman
  • 31:26
    and these are great loads these are
  • 31:29
    loans that get immediately paid off
  • 31:30
    these are loans that get businesses back
  • 31:33
    I wish you could answer ask a question
  • 31:35
    where something's working so well now
  • 31:37
    maybe things won't work well and I don't
  • 31:39
    mind that kind but where something's
  • 31:41
    working so well
  • 31:42
    and you ask a question in such a
  • 31:44
    negative way it's doing great yeah did
  • 31:47
    you get the clip of the reporter I
  • 31:50
    forgot to get this one of the reporters
  • 31:52
    saying
  • 31:53
    there's a rumor that the Czechs are
  • 31:55
    going to be delayed for four months
  • 31:57
    because you insist on signing them no
  • 32:03
    this one is under the word funniest this
  • 32:06
    is funniest truck that I thought this
  • 32:08
    was the absolute the moment of moments
  • 32:14
    you guys ever stop do you want to keep
  • 32:17
    going for a little while huh I mean do
  • 32:19
    you ever stop how many times yes and in
  • 32:21
    many cases it's the same actually a lot
  • 32:23
    of good questions go ahead but keep
  • 32:25
    going yes so you're not gonna blame me
  • 32:27
    that I kept it going too long people
  • 32:29
    said all we kept every time you'll ask
  • 32:31
    it no I mean no it's amazing
  • 32:33
    nothing every can't wind up I thought
  • 32:36
    we've gone through a little every I
  • 32:38
    think every single hand went up the last
  • 32:40
    time do you know what it shows you it
  • 32:43
    shows you that you love what you do go
  • 32:44
    ahead you do know you're doing some of
  • 32:47
    you do it well if I can insert one I got
  • 32:55
    one from Jim Jim Acosta from CNN and and
  • 32:59
    try and I'm playing this for a couple
  • 33:01
    reasons one so you can hear again just
  • 33:03
    insult to the public to the the public
  • 33:06
    does watch these I think that maybe the
  • 33:10
    maybe the journals forget that when
  • 33:12
    they're sitting in the in the briefing
  • 33:14
    room like make sure you get me on camera
  • 33:16
    but don't worry about it's just for the
  • 33:17
    package for tonight or whatever but
  • 33:19
    people watch it and they come across as
  • 33:21
    douchey and Trump has been doing
  • 33:23
    something very consistently which I want
  • 33:25
    to ask you a question about you have
  • 33:28
    said nobody could have seen this
  • 33:29
    pandemic coming but in fact secretaries
  • 33:32
    are at a bio defense summit in April
  • 33:34
    29th at force the people of course the
  • 33:38
    thing that people ask what keeps you
  • 33:39
    most up at night in the bio defense
  • 33:42
    world pandemic flu of course I think
  • 33:44
    everyone in this room
  • 33:46
    he shares that concern your own Health
  • 33:49
    and Human Services Secretary was aware
  • 33:51
    that this had the potential of being a
  • 33:54
    very big problem around the world a
  • 33:55
    pandemic of this nature drop the ball
  • 33:58
    well I always knew that pandemics are
  • 34:00
    one of the worst things could happen
  • 34:02
    there's been nothing like this since
  • 34:04
    probably 1917 that was the big one in
  • 34:08
    Europe it started actually here and went
  • 34:10
    to Europe probably I've heard about this
  • 34:16
    for a long time pandemics you don't want
  • 34:19
    pandemics and I don't think he was
  • 34:21
    talking about a specific pandemic he was
  • 34:23
    talking about the threat of a pandemic
  • 34:25
    could happen and it could happen
  • 34:26
    so a douchbag gotcha question to
  • 34:30
    literally say who dropped the ball
  • 34:32
    okay thanks Jim Acosta but why when the
  • 34:36
    Spanish flu is commonly known to have
  • 34:39
    started in 1918 why is the president so
  • 34:42
    consistently saying 1917 this has got to
  • 34:45
    be some kind of message that were not
  • 34:47
    understanding well there is a there is a
  • 34:53
    alternate theory that's been floating
  • 34:55
    around that it actually began in the
  • 34:57
    United States yes I that theory is also
  • 35:01
    listed on the wiki page yes and if you
  • 35:05
    there's a number of problems with that
  • 35:07
    theory one is how to get over there when
  • 35:09
    everyone's coming back from from there
  • 35:10
    which may it's a logically logically
  • 35:14
    inconsistent modern theory is the theory
  • 35:16
    only showed up in the 40s I think or the
  • 35:19
    50s or even later maybe the 60s but this
  • 35:22
    is you know somebody did some research
  • 35:24
    and found somebody drop dead you know
  • 35:26
    some Kansas bunk somewhere in the army
  • 35:30
    and they I don't know how to somehow
  • 35:32
    spread in the opposite direction we have
  • 35:34
    I just think it's bogus and I think
  • 35:36
    somehow he's gotten he bought into that
  • 35:39
    thesis and he's just going along with
  • 35:42
    that well say well ok wait the other
  • 35:44
    well I take these he doesn't do things
  • 35:48
    accidentally I agree that's that's a
  • 35:50
    fact so he so just taking the statement
  • 35:52
    at face value if you look at the wiki
  • 35:54
    page which may be the source of his
  • 35:55
    information for all I know
  • 35:58
    19:18 is the date that the if you look
  • 36:03
    at the united states a theory that it
  • 36:06
    started in 1918 in kansas if you look at
  • 36:10
    the united kingdom theory as it started
  • 36:12
    in the united kingdom it says in late
  • 36:14
    1970 military pathologist reported the
  • 36:18
    onset of a new disease with high
  • 36:19
    mortality that they later recognized as
  • 36:21
    the flu and this was at viola gist john
  • 36:27
    oxford and they had a camp of a hundred
  • 36:30
    thousand soldiers and that's where they
  • 36:32
    studied it or they introduced it i don't
  • 36:34
    know but that's me so maybe he's trying
  • 36:36
    to say yeah some people say we did it
  • 36:38
    but we know it really started in
  • 36:39
    nineteen seventy how about that is that
  • 36:42
    well i mean what else are we gonna do i
  • 36:45
    mean it's it's just odd and annoying
  • 36:47
    that he can and when he first started
  • 36:49
    saying it people were laughing like what
  • 36:51
    an idiot he's staying it all wrong now
  • 36:53
    they don't do that anymore but he
  • 36:54
    continues to say it so i'm just trying
  • 36:56
    to figure out the small stuff i have no
  • 36:59
    idea the 1917 doesn't bother me as much
  • 37:02
    as repeating it to kansas well which is
  • 37:05
    less isolated and all the sudden becomes
  • 37:07
    a worldwide phenomena i just don't see
  • 37:09
    it now as to the question of the the
  • 37:13
    Health and Human Services director being
  • 37:16
    well in the know over a year ago he knew
  • 37:19
    it was coming how did you drop the ball
  • 37:21
    you stupid orange man idiot hears foul
  • 37:24
    Chi
  • 37:24
    in twenty is America's doctor now
  • 37:28
    America's pandemic doctor the in 2017 at
  • 37:33
    George Washington University it's just
  • 37:35
    interesting the way he phrases pretty
  • 37:37
    much the same information given as you
  • 37:39
    heard from the introduction that I have
  • 37:41
    been around for a while and have had the
  • 37:43
    opportunity and the privilege and the
  • 37:45
    pleasure of serving in five
  • 37:48
    administrations I thought I would bring
  • 37:51
    that perspective to the topic today is
  • 37:53
    the issue of pandemic preparedness and
  • 37:57
    if there's one message that I want to
  • 38:01
    leave with you today based on my
  • 38:03
    experience and you'll see that in a
  • 38:04
    moment is that there is no question that
  • 38:07
    there will be a
  • 38:09
    Challenge the coming administration in
  • 38:11
    the arena of infectious diseases both
  • 38:14
    chronic infectious diseases in the sense
  • 38:16
    of already ongoing disease and we have
  • 38:18
    certainly a large burden of that but
  • 38:20
    also there will be a surprise outbreak
  • 38:23
    can I hope by the end of my relatively
  • 38:25
    short presentation you will understand
  • 38:27
    why history of the history of the last
  • 38:31
    32 years that I've been the director of
  • 38:33
    NIAID will tell the next administration
  • 38:36
    that there's no doubt in anyone's mind
  • 38:38
    that they will be faced with the
  • 38:40
    challenges that their predecessors were
  • 38:43
    faced with so I like this because he
  • 38:46
    says surprise outbreak like okay I mean
  • 38:52
    just interesting that he would use that
  • 38:55
    term surprise outbreak but more
  • 38:58
    interestingly if you really listen to
  • 38:59
    what he's saying
  • 39:00
    I think what he's saying after that is
  • 39:03
    if you look at my history you'll know
  • 39:06
    you're gonna be scared shitless listen
  • 39:09
    again to the second part listen to it
  • 39:11
    but also there will be a surprise
  • 39:12
    outbreak and I hope by the end of my
  • 39:15
    relatively short presentation you will
  • 39:17
    understand why history of the history of
  • 39:21
    the last 32 years that I've been the
  • 39:23
    director of NIH so he's saying the
  • 39:25
    history of my being a director for the
  • 39:27
    past 32 years not the history of
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    pandemics know his history that's what
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    I'm hearing him say the history of the
  • 39:36
    last 32 years that I've been the
  • 39:38
    director of NIAID will tell the next
  • 39:41
    administration that there's no doubt in
  • 39:43
    anyone's mind that they will be faced
  • 39:45
    with the challenges that their
  • 39:47
    predecessors were faced with seeing as
  • 39:49
    he seems wherever he goes pandemics show
  • 39:52
    up maybe that's true
  • 39:54
    five administration's and his his
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    tentacles reach much deeper than I ever
  • 40:01
    imagined and his job is to scare people
  • 40:05
    witness dr. Drew who is backpedaling a
  • 40:08
    little bit he is now saying hey you know
  • 40:11
    for all the things I said I'm optimistic
  • 40:14
    but this does seem to be a little
  • 40:16
    different than the flu and I've been
  • 40:19
    following dr. drew very closely inside
  • 40:21
    you know it would be
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    for me to not to stop believing what
  • 40:24
    he's saying now he's being cagey but he
  • 40:27
    reveals something about his connection
  • 40:30
    to doctor foul cheat which is telling
  • 40:32
    I've been trying to stay optimistic the
  • 40:34
    entire time I would say the main thing I
  • 40:37
    think that she thought was the sort of
  • 40:39
    the philosophy of this illness the fact
  • 40:41
    that it's able to you know really cause
  • 40:44
    a crash all of a sudden out of the blue
  • 40:46
    even in young people and that's what's a
  • 40:48
    feature of this illness that I wasn't
  • 40:50
    where till it sort of landed here
  • 40:51
    stateside I'm still optimistic I still
  • 40:54
    believe no one's more innovative and
  • 40:56
    responsive of the US healthcare system I
  • 40:58
    believe we're gonna start knocking down
  • 40:59
    the hospitalization rates and deathly
  • 41:01
    the inactivity I'm still optimistic and
  • 41:04
    being optimistic is something that makes
  • 41:07
    people angry I'm sorry but I'm still
  • 41:10
    very optimistic in spite of the fact
  • 41:12
    that I'm you know completely signed up I
  • 41:15
    was in from the beginning I've also been
  • 41:16
    saying follow dr. pouchy whatever he
  • 41:18
    says that's what we got to do the reason
  • 41:20
    I got on the radio in 1983 is because I
  • 41:23
    was part of the army that doctor foul
  • 41:25
    she put together back then I was working
  • 41:27
    on the frontlines of the AIDS epidemic
  • 41:29
    and we were chanting about 10 million
  • 41:33
    deaths 10 million deaths there's gonna
  • 41:34
    be millions of dead if we don't you know
  • 41:36
    talk to educate people about this
  • 41:38
    illness and how its transmitted now we
  • 41:40
    were off by a factor of 100 in terms of
  • 41:43
    our predictions then and we
  • 41:45
    congratulated ourselves for scaring the
  • 41:47
    hell out of a generation and hopefully
  • 41:50
    change their behavior but really what
  • 41:51
    changes of course that illness was
  • 41:53
    therapeutics the fact that we came up
  • 41:55
    with effective treatment to turn AIDS
  • 41:57
    from a death sentence which is what I
  • 41:59
    was dealing with my training and early
  • 42:01
    career to a chronic illness and I think
  • 42:04
    we're gonna get the same thing here are
  • 42:06
    just a great faith in our our innovation
  • 42:09
    and at US healthcare so did dr. Drew get
  • 42:14
    a recall into the foul Chi army did he
  • 42:17
    get a little knock on the door say chill
  • 42:19
    out we got it you're making it sound too
  • 42:21
    easy this is no good and Salix something
  • 42:26
    changed and and he's slipping the
  • 42:29
    therapeutics in there but that is also
  • 42:31
    not really the message of dr. Fauci or
  • 42:33
    anyone behind him
  • 42:35
    which we've now determined the data
  • 42:37
    they're presenting dr. Burks is
  • 42:39
    presenting is from health data org 100%
  • 42:43
    funded by the Gates Foundation from its
  • 42:45
    inception in 2005 up until the most
  • 42:47
    recent funding round of a quarter
  • 42:49
    quarter of a billion dollars from the
  • 42:52
    Gates Foundation and of course is run by
  • 42:55
    Chris Murray who used to work for World
  • 42:58
    Health Organization Rhodes Scholar he
  • 43:00
    has all the qualifications that's the
  • 43:02
    data that's being presented to us for
  • 43:04
    the curve that was that we had a
  • 43:07
    switcheroo first we were using the
  • 43:09
    Imperial model then Neil Ferguson had to
  • 43:12
    say well you know is gonna be different
  • 43:15
    something's made up about because we
  • 43:18
    didn't take mitigation into account okay
  • 43:20
    so now we've gone from 2 million dead in
  • 43:23
    the u.s. to 200,000 now it's 160,000 is
  • 43:26
    what's expected because the models are
  • 43:28
    just overestimating everywhere and all
  • 43:31
    of this points back to Bill Gates and
  • 43:33
    Bill Gates has been very active in the
  • 43:35
    media of a couple of clips but perhaps
  • 43:37
    the most telling was shown by Chris
  • 43:40
    Hayes and just to set the stage of how
  • 43:44
    much Bill Gates hates Donald Trump that
  • 43:47
    on a recent foundation video chat which
  • 43:51
    for some reason Chris Hayes is allowed
  • 43:53
    to put on television
  • 43:55
    Bill Gates spoke extensively about Trump
  • 43:58
    and none of it was flattering as you can
  • 44:01
    imagine some of it just well what you'd
  • 44:02
    expect you ever wonder what people
  • 44:04
    who've actually met Donald Trump
  • 44:05
    especially powerful successful people in
  • 44:07
    American business and Beyond who've had
  • 44:09
    to try and interact with him because
  • 44:11
    he's leader the free world say about
  • 44:13
    those encounters behind closed doors all
  • 44:16
    in has obtained some never-before-seen
  • 44:18
    footage that gives you a good idea of
  • 44:20
    what one of the wealthiest men in the
  • 44:22
    world Bill Gates thinks of the President