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1229: Orange Tongue

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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March 29th, 2020
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Executive Producers: Viscount Sir Mittens of Falls City, Justin Feola, Dr. Ellie Shattles

Associate Executive Producers: Stephanie Symonds, Scott Shelbourn, Jesse Nelson, Dame Sheila the Lady of Lisboa

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    Theresa being shy they're not Adam curry
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    John C. Dvorak Sunday March 29 2020 this
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    is your award-winning chemo nation media
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    assassination episode 1229 this is no
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    agenda 33 the frontier of austin texas
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    capital of the drone star state in the
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    morning everybody
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    I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon
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    Valley where there's a ventilator going
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    down the road I'm John C Devore I was a
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    Peterbilt no have you seen do we have a
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    Zephyr report yet for today have you
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    seen a Zephyr I guess not I know I
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    haven't but I missed it okay well I'm
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    just curious to see how many how many
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    cars it has it'd be funny if it got down
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    to six no no that would not that's
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    that's when we really need to start
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    activating all shit hits the fan systems
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    a six-car Zephyr unheard of very bad
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    news well the 7th card is pretty weird
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    I'll tell you while we're at it talking
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    about transportation I would like to
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    express my appreciation towards the
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    truckers we have occurred we have many
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    truckers in the No Agenda media tribe
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    and and an additional thank you to the
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    dudes named Ben and dudettes named
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    Bernadette who are keeping your Netflix
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    working believe me there's actual work
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    going on to MIT to change these
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    bandwidth requirements so that's your
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    border gateway stroking it down at the
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    border gateway protocol dudes named Ben
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    and there's all kinds of people making
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    your stuff at home work so just want to
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    say that off of the bat and while we're
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    talking about masks and Counting and
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    let's debunk some stuff shall we
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    you're into the mood of debunking and to
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    start the show yeah well I just won one
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    clip it's the clip that matters the most
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    to me well actually it's two clips well
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    it's in two parts if there's ever comes
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    by I'm getting yeah you have to
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    interrupt it's
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    that's those effort has priority so why
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    don't we start with dr. Burks who now of
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    course is your buddy yeah well you know
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    after ice after I started paying
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    attention to her and looked at her her
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    credentials in history she was
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    immediately got debunk or what's the
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    word I'm looking for
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    she's being cancelled she's in the
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    middle of being canceled and well I'll
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    start with that then this happened on
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    Friday she did an interview with CBN
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    what cbn is that Canada broadcast
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    network broadcasting what is cbn well it
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    could be Christian broadcast network it
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    could be let's see cbn oh I think you're
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    right it is the Christian broadcast
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    network of course not that anyone
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    watches that we're not that many people
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    watch the Christian broadcast network
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    few people do but it was put online and
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    once it went viral then dr. Burks
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    appointed by Obama in 2014
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    of course she worked for a George W Bush
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    I mean she's been around she's an
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    ambassador she was a colonel I thought
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    that was her last rank before she left
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    the military service it's not enough she
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    is just an orange tongue asslicker
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    didn't you know that yeah here it is how
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    would you describe the job President
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    Trump is doing behind the scenes and in
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    front of the cameras during these daily
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    briefings that we're seeing what's in
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    your perspective dr. Burks he's been so
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    attentive to the scientific literature
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    and the details and the data and I think
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    his his ability to analyze and integrate
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    data that comes out of his long history
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    in business has really been a real
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    benefit during these discussions about
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    medical issues because in the end data
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    is data and he understands the
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    importance of the granularity and I
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    think he's been really excited about
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    finding the level of detail that we've
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    been able to now bring over the last few
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    weeks to really understand who's at the
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    greatest risk for severe illness who
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    will have mild unless an asymptomatic
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    disease and really calling on every
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    American to do that social distancing
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    because some people may not know they're
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    actually infected and be unknowingly
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    spreading the virus and
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    all comes from the president seeing the
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    data and then really directing these
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    policies and these guidelines that go
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    out to the American people well this was
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    no good
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    this meant she had flipped she's no good
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    she's useless you can't listen to her
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    anymore she said something positive
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    about the president's ability to
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    comprehend things
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    oh no the social media went nuts that's
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    the most hated woman in America this
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    weekend this was all preceded by her
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    speaking very frankly to the media at
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    the press briefing which I think or now
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    I know was completely ineffective
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    because the media is still not reporting
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    on it all of the information I think we
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    have most of it we've discussed a lot of
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    it and we start with the Imperial model
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    which apparently got us into this mess
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    this is the model that was created at
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    the Imperial College in the United
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    Kingdom and that was done specifically
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    by Neil Ferguson who downgraded his own
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    model as significantly and we can talk
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    about that right after we listen to dr.
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    Burks telling the media that it was
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    wrong and I think she doesn't do a great
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    job here she treats the media like
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    children which they don't respond very
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    well to it would have been better it's
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    like children by the way I think a
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    different approach might have gotten
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    more attention but this is really the
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    information should be what sell candy a
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    candy works this is the infrared you
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    said that in a very creepy knowing way I
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    don't I don't like what I'm sure many of
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    you saw the recent report out of the UK
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    about them adjusting completely their
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    needs this is really quite important if
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    you remember that was the report that
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    said there would be five hundred
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    thousand deaths in the UK and 2.2
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    million deaths in the United States
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    justed that number in the UK to 20,000
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    whoops so half a million to 20,000 we're
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    looking into this in great detail to
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    understand that adjustment I'm going to
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    say something that's a little bit
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    complicated but I'm going to try to do
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    it in a way that we can all understand
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    it together okay children you ready okay
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    Wow hey by the way yes if I pointed this
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    out years ago and it and it applied
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    actually even before we began the show
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    that is the way Hilary always talked to
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    the press in the memory and if she
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    stopped doing that by the way she yes
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    she got older she's kind of lost it cuz
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    she got so angry but she used to say
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    every word very distinctly and I'm I
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    complained about this a number of times
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    because what happens and and this style
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    of speaking where she's been every word
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    very clearly it which was just a
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    horrible way to speak man and the women
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    in the Bay Area particular she's such a
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    wonderful speaker and but Hillary is
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    always speaking down to people when you
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    talk like when when I talk like this to
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    you it's demeaning I think yes
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    do you not quite pulling it off but I
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    understand what you're saying and it's
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    similar look at where she comes from
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    stammer I can't barely talk of myself
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    just look at where she comes from she
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    comes from that movie oh she comes from
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    the Obama administration which doesn't
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    matter by the way because you know she
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    still has an orange tongue it's no good
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    this it was really that's the kind of
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    stuff you get when when you see this
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    video online that's it's it's hilarious
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    how people are responding to her so I
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    think this should have been breaking
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    news top of the news oh my god check it
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    out for whatever reason and there are
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    reasons the model was adjusted downward
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    by 20 factor of 25 that's not an
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    insignificant is it is it top of the
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    news no of course not let's listen to
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    what she said and let's all understand
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    it together I'm gonna say something
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    that's a little bit complicated
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    but I'm gonna try to do it in a way that
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    we could all understand it together in
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    the model either you have to have a
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    large group of people who are
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    asymptomatic who've never presented for
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    any test in order to have the kind of
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    numbers that were predicted to get to 60
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    million people infected or of 6 million
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    people infected you have to have a large
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    group of asymptomatic because in no
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    country to date have we seen an attack
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    rate over one in a thousand so either
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    we're only measuring the tip of the
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    iceberg of the symptomatic cases and
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    underneath it are a large group of
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    people so we're working very hard to get
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    that antibody test because that's a good
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    way to figure out who are all these
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    people under here and do they exist or
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    we have the transmission completely
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    wrong so these are the things we're
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    looking at because the predictions of
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    the models don't match the reality on
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    the ground in either China South Korea
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    or Italy we are about five times the
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    size of Italy so if we were Italy and
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    you did all those divisions Italy should
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    have close to 400,000 deaths they're not
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    close to achieving that so these are the
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    kinds of things we're trying to
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    understand models or models
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    we're adapting now to the rillette
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    there's enough data now of the real
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    experience with the corona virus on the
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    ground to really make these predictions
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    much more sound so when people start
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    talking about 20% of a population
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    getting infected it's very scary
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    but we don't have data that matches that
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    based on the experience okay
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    so again it was on top of the news this
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    is very good news yeah this not only is
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    on top of the news it definitely should
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    be top of the news but this is just like
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    the good like the global warming guys
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    who or not
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    deniers they just don't buy it and they
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    have good data to show that this is a
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    lot no idols are bad I disagree this is
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    this is the equivalent of the actual
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    global warming modelers saying hey our
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    models were wrong it's not the same that
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    would be fantastic news this is not some
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    contrarian this is Neil Ferguson
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    epidemiologist who created the model and
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    two days after Boris Johnson locked down
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    the country he went before Parliament
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    and testified and said okay yeah I've
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    adjusted the model and his answer to why
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    this drastic change is well you know I
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    didn't take you to account we'd be doing
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    anything which is total horse crap
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    because he's made he's the data is the
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    our number two our Oh number how many
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    people like one person will infect he's
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    an unknown still so as you heard dr.
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    Burke speaking we don't really know the
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    transmission rate so he just filled
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    something in and then he changed it and
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    it got a different result not the first
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    time he's had some interesting miss
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    prognostications such as with the Hooven
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    mouth disease where they bought guy he's
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    little for mouth guy six million heads
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    of cattle or destroyed likely
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    unnecessary that really put the agrarian
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    sector in the UK into a very problematic
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    state same with the swine flu this guy
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    has got to go well it's not just this
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    guy here here's what I understand the
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    Imperial College is a form of research
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    entity of record for government for
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    think tanks for Policy groups and for
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    the media
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    this is the study that got everybody all
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    jacked and started the whole media thing
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    along with politicians of course cuz you
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    know they were reading two million dead
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    in America and I still want to know you
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    recall the president said they convey a
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    couple people three I think came to my
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    office that you got to shut the country
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    down I still would like to know who that
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    was and just just just for history sake
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    who was it that convinced the President
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    to shut down the country cuz it seems
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    like it may not have been that necessary
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    and we'll get into what he was reluctant
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    to take any of this that seriously
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    and they came and they started hounding
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    him and the media went nuts you know of
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    course the media what baffles me is as
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    your point this is a good good catch by
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    the way and apparently you had to go
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    catch it yeah is they me seriously don't
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    use it's just it's just disgusting that
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    you had to just catch this and the media
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    didn't because the media caught the
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    other side of it and if they don't catch
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    the correction this is the way they do
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    there you know the they're all we made a
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    correction in the paper you know the
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    boys yeah we were wrong but we made a
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    correction the papers on page 32 you can
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    find it right there it's at the bottom
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    well it's fear porn and and they're
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    profiting off of it although that's
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    becoming sketchy I wonder but just to
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    interrupt that part of it yeah I will I
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    want to read a note from one of our guys
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    yes that's why I bring it up good you
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    have the note too because we're bitching
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    about the media the exploiting this and
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    he says what's the media's play here I
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    work and this is a guy who works at CBS
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    local station in Bismarck North Dakota
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    I'm in the production manager it's
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    thirty two our ad buys are dropping off
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    a cliff the vents are canceling these
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    ads are gone stores are closed those ads
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    are gone people aren't working money
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    isn't flowing propping this virus up
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    does no good for us we have more
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    eyeballs which is the thing that I point
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    out right have more eyeballs but there's
  • 14:39
    less weight less demand for customers is
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    not like Walmart and Target need to
  • 14:45
    advertise to sell toilet paper even at
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    the net at the national
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    or at a national Disney level Universal
  • 14:53
    Comcast NBC parks are closed stores are
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    closed this is costing everyone money at
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    cars Carson oh hi I've just finished
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    this and I haven't thought about this
  • 15:03
    all night I don't hold the purse strings
  • 15:06
    our TV station is busy so my employees
  • 15:08
    have brought up raises until then he
  • 15:11
    goes on about the rest of about the
  • 15:12
    inner workings but I was thinking about
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    this this is true what he says and what
  • 15:17
    you just said brings the point home I
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    think even further the media will take a
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    beating on the bottom line if they can
  • 15:26
    get rid of Trump it's so stupid it's
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    stupid that's how hard they'll bring the
  • 15:35
    country you got to remember we have the
  • 15:37
    clip Bill Maher going and I'd rather see
  • 15:39
    a recession and see I'd rather see the
  • 15:42
    country go under the toilet then see
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    Trump get reelected do we have the the
  • 15:48
    Bill Maher clip I hope we do have the
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    good said yeah defining it is gonna be a
  • 15:53
    problem but he did say it ooh everyone
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    knows I remember it yeah and he and this
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    is this example here that he's pointing
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    out to me cuz I'm sure we'll they're
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    just exploiting the situation when it
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    leads it bleeds but if they're taking a
  • 16:05
    beating there their purpose they turn it
  • 16:08
    around and get off this thing no no no
  • 16:09
    this is the way to go because this this
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    will just will doom Trump and now that
  • 16:14
    Trump's numbers are going up there
  • 16:16
    beside themselves they don't know what
  • 16:18
    to do and there's also a secondary part
  • 16:22
    that remember these guys and when I say
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    these guys as these get these guys and
  • 16:26
    gals of the media certainly the on-air
  • 16:28
    personalities are really wrapped up in
  • 16:30
    it they are in it's for them it's the
  • 16:33
    equivalent of their Vietnam frontlines
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    and that's how they're acting that's how
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    they feels like ok and all these
  • 16:38
    hardships like man had to do my own
  • 16:40
    makeup I had to do my own hair it's like
  • 16:44
    hardships on the front lines coronavirus
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    reporting we're social distancing I'm
  • 16:49
    housed in my home studio oh yeah man huh
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    hope we're gonna hunker down
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    no it's sad it's sad and pathetic where
  • 16:57
    this is it's great news for the world
  • 16:59
    for the world break
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    knows they cannot bring themselves to be
  • 17:04
    positive because it doesn't work in
  • 17:06
    their mindset doesn't work actually in
  • 17:08
    their business model their business
  • 17:09
    model no longer they're used to when I
  • 17:13
    was a kid we'd actually have at the end
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    of the broadcast at the end of the
  • 17:17
    broadcast mind you and now on a happy
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    note that's what they would do we don't
  • 17:21
    even get that anymore remember that the
  • 17:24
    last minute and a half of the newscast
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    would be the human interest story and
  • 17:28
    now on a happy note and they get like a
  • 17:31
    puppy they still do not really not
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    really now I disagree but okay so they
  • 17:39
    try to do something uplifting at the end
  • 17:41
    and so Nora can maybe put a smile on her
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    face so let's just look at what was
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    predicted two million if you drop that
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    down by a factor of 25 you get to what
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    is that five hundred thousand no twenty
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    five to four hundred thousand something
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    like that help me out John come on it
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    would be five hundred thousand to be a
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    quarter of that number right and you're
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    saying it's twenty five percent of the
  • 18:09
    number it's to factor 25 oh then it's
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    I'd have to pull up the calculator to
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    get that correctly why don't we do it
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    media is not doing it so it 2 1 2 3 4 5
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    6 2 million factor of 25 so it should be
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    80,000 80,000 dad well we got a long way
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    to go and you know this thing has to be
  • 18:35
    at the end just for how seasonal these
  • 18:37
    things are regardless so it seems like
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    this and that's what Burke said either
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    we just you know it's like a an iceberg
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    under there we can't see anything
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    and essentially everyone's infected I
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    guess well she's implying a lot of
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    people have had you know yes yes well
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    and this brings us to the second part
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    which is the actual reporting of what's
  • 19:04
    of the of the virus itself I have
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    another clip from Burke's but first
  • 19:08
    confirmation that there are indeed two
  • 19:11
    strains the L strain and the S strain
  • 19:14
    which I
  • 19:15
    for sure has not been reported in
  • 19:17
    anything of mainstream 'no street from
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    the oxford university press the no
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    agenda pharmacist who have been
  • 19:29
    communicating with he's a former
  • 19:30
    professor of pharmacy who was worked in
  • 19:33
    hospital in massachusetts for the last
  • 19:35
    five years and yes he does have hundreds
  • 19:37
    of co vyd positive patients currently he
  • 19:41
    is in the process of creating two
  • 19:43
    different protocols for the treatment of
  • 19:45
    each of the strains because they are
  • 19:47
    different so this is happening at the
  • 19:49
    hospital level but you have not heard
  • 19:51
    about it and I don't know if dr. Burks
  • 19:53
    doesn't want to tell us because maybe
  • 19:54
    we'll all get freaked out because one is
  • 19:57
    apparently much more severe than the
  • 19:59
    other it's very possible we have the L
  • 20:02
    strain in New York possibly the L strain
  • 20:05
    in in Kirkland Washington who knows but
  • 20:09
    we don't know because there's no
  • 20:10
    reporting and all the reporters are in
  • 20:12
    there in their in their spare bedroom
  • 20:14
    you know with the hardships of putting
  • 20:16
    on their own makeup so he gave me a
  • 20:19
    whole breakdown of this he sent it to me
  • 20:21
    especially for the No Agenda producers I
  • 20:25
    just want to go back and forth and make
  • 20:27
    sure I can publish it because it was a
  • 20:28
    little something unclear to me and his
  • 20:30
    email but that is something that's just
  • 20:33
    not being reported it's not being
  • 20:35
    reported at all that there are two
  • 20:36
    strains and it's highly likely that if
  • 20:39
    you had the s strain which may you may
  • 20:41
    have had a little coffee may have been
  • 20:43
    congested you are immune for the more
  • 20:46
    severe l strain that's what it seems
  • 20:48
    like again that all does fit with a bio
  • 20:50
    weapon but that's a different story now
  • 20:52
    about the damn ventilators oh my god so
  • 20:57
    much hysteria from the media truly
  • 21:00
    unfounded unwarranted lies about the
  • 21:05
    availability of ventilators and Burks
  • 21:09
    goes at the media again unsuccessfully I
  • 21:11
    might add then finally the situation
  • 21:13
    about ventilators we were reassured and
  • 21:15
    meeting with our colleagues in New York
  • 21:17
    that there are still ICU beds remaining
  • 21:21
    and they're still significant over a
  • 21:24
    thousand or 2,000 ventilators that have
  • 21:26
    not been utilized yet
  • 21:28
    please for the reassurance of people
  • 21:30
    around the world to wake up this morning
  • 21:33
    and look at people talking about
  • 21:36
    creating DNR situations do not
  • 21:39
    resuscitate situations for patients
  • 21:42
    there is no situation in the United
  • 21:44
    States right now at warrants that kind
  • 21:48
    of discussion you can be thinking about
  • 21:50
    it in a hospital certainly many
  • 21:53
    hospitals talk about this on a daily
  • 21:55
    basis but to say that to the American
  • 21:57
    people to make the implication that when
  • 22:00
    they need a hospital bed it's not going
  • 22:02
    to be there or when they need that
  • 22:03
    ventilator it's not going to be there
  • 22:05
    we don't have an evidence of that right
  • 22:08
    now and it's our job collectively to
  • 22:11
    assure the American people that it's our
  • 22:13
    collective job to make sure that doesn't
  • 22:15
    happen right now you can see the state
  • 22:18
    these cases are concentrated in highly
  • 22:21
    urban areas there are other parts of the
  • 22:23
    states that have lots of ventilators in
  • 22:26
    other parts of New York states that
  • 22:28
    don't have any infections right now so
  • 22:30
    we can be creative we can meet the need
  • 22:32
    by being responsive but there's no model
  • 22:35
    right now I mean no reality on the
  • 22:37
    ground where we can see that 60 to 70
  • 22:40
    percent of Americans are going to get
  • 22:42
    infected in the next eight to 12 weeks I
  • 22:46
    just want to be clear about that so
  • 22:48
    subsequently in the question and answer
  • 22:50
    session the journalists who of course
  • 22:52
    heard that from dr. Burks and was wide
  • 22:55
    awake and staring right at her asked the
  • 22:57
    president a question - the question that
  • 22:59
    was believed - are you able to guarantee
  • 23:02
    to assure these states these hospitals
  • 23:05
    that everybody who needs a ventilator
  • 23:07
    we'll get a ventilator so here's what
  • 23:09
    I'll tell you I think we're in really
  • 23:10
    good shape this is a pandemic the likes
  • 23:13
    of which nobody's seen before I think
  • 23:16
    we're in great shape I think that number
  • 23:18
    one we've distributed ventilators a big
  • 23:21
    deal we've distributed vast numbers of
  • 23:24
    ventilators and we're prepared to do
  • 23:26
    vast numbers I think we're in great
  • 23:29
    shape I hope that's the case I hope that
  • 23:31
    we're going to have leftovers so we can
  • 23:33
    help other people other countries
  • 23:36
    two times later look don't be a cutie
  • 23:39
    pie okay nobody's ever done what we've
  • 23:43
    done nobody's done anything like we've
  • 23:45
    been able to do and everything I took
  • 23:46
    over was a mess it was a broken country
  • 23:49
    in so many ways in so many ways other
  • 23:51
    than this now where does the stem from
  • 23:54
    again the media hyping some fly although
  • 23:58
    you're about to hear being walked back
  • 24:00
    from Governor Cuomo of New York
  • 24:02
    apparently propagate or originated with
  • 24:05
    de Blasio oh we don't have enough
  • 24:08
    ventilators we don't have them Trump's
  • 24:09
    not sending him Trump sucks
  • 24:14
    that's my Cuomo so reporter asked Cuomo
  • 24:18
    point-blank were there ventilators found
  • 24:20
    in a storage facility or something that
  • 24:24
    the president's is claiming that there
  • 24:26
    were ventilators found that they need to
  • 24:28
    be distributed is there any yes so that
  • 24:30
    that is that is incorrect
  • 24:33
    and grossly uninformed the
  • 24:38
    the point is we have ventilators in a
  • 24:41
    stockpile and we didn't send them to the
  • 24:44
    hospital so that's grossly incorrect and
  • 24:47
    uninformed it wasn't a stockpile we had
  • 24:50
    them in a warehouse it's not the same
  • 24:52
    thing it's grossly wrong of course we
  • 24:55
    didn't that's the whole point the
  • 24:57
    hospitals don't need them yet the
  • 24:59
    hospitals aren't at their apex the
  • 25:01
    hospitals have enough ventilators today
  • 25:03
    but the numbers are going up we're
  • 25:06
    planning for an apex a high point and
  • 25:09
    about 21 days that's when we need the
  • 25:11
    30,000 ventilators not today right now
  • 25:14
    we're putting them in a stock pile so
  • 25:17
    the point is whether in a stockpile you
  • 25:19
    must not need them it's just ignorant
  • 25:21
    suppose you don't need them today we
  • 25:23
    need them when you hit the client of the
  • 25:26
    apex which is 30,000 we're not there yet
  • 25:30
    so I don't know if the media misquoted
  • 25:32
    the governor and the mayor about this
  • 25:35
    huge ventilator shortage in New York but
  • 25:37
    it's certainly being walked back but of
  • 25:40
    course it's ignorant to think that do we
  • 25:43
    that we that we still have enough or not
  • 25:46
    enough it's just it's a shit show but
  • 25:48
    this shit show is coming from somewhere
  • 25:50
    else New York City wants you to believe
  • 25:51
    that the corona virus has overwhelmed
  • 25:53
    their healthcare system please pay no
  • 25:56
    attention to the 16 hospitals in New
  • 25:59
    York City that closed since 2003 I think
  • 26:02
    was cutting Medicaid reimbursements now
  • 26:06
    this is an administrative issue where
  • 26:08
    these where hospitals are funded by the
  • 26:11
    insurance companies who give them a lump
  • 26:13
    sum every year here's your 800 million
  • 26:15
    figure out how you're gonna build who
  • 26:16
    you're gonna build for it I'm being as
  • 26:19
    brevity here because obviously is not
  • 26:21
    how it works
  • 26:22
    but that's the essential idea and the
  • 26:24
    idea is to run at 90% capacity all the
  • 26:27
    time it's a commercial business and
  • 26:30
    again I have to point to the insurance
  • 26:32
    companies mainly I feel that they're at
  • 26:33
    fault or the whole insurance system so
  • 26:37
    then no one was really ready for a
  • 26:39
    pandemic they talked a big game and now
  • 26:42
    they're blaming everybody they can
  • 26:43
    accept themselves a couple of emails
  • 26:46
    we've received from our producers first
  • 26:47
    of all for me
  • 26:49
    well most these want to be anonymous I'm
  • 26:52
    a person who operates the ventilators
  • 26:54
    Adam we are registered respiratory
  • 26:57
    therapists are RT you're right you can
  • 27:00
    have as many ventilators as you want but
  • 27:03
    without someone to operate them you got
  • 27:05
    a problem our training is very similar
  • 27:06
    to a registered nurse both jobs require
  • 27:09
    at least a two-year associate degree or
  • 27:11
    higher a national board exam state
  • 27:13
    licensed to practice I'm receiving job
  • 27:16
    ads every day everyone is trying to
  • 27:18
    prepare for the quote the surge and so
  • 27:20
    the thing you got the surge are low our
  • 27:23
    local hospital is licensed for 150 beds
  • 27:26
    for a town of 40,000 but they're trying
  • 27:29
    to prepare for patient load of up to 400
  • 27:31
    as a worst case scenario so as you've
  • 27:35
    astutely noted the talk is where to put
  • 27:38
    the patients but not who is going to
  • 27:40
    take care of them the administration is
  • 27:42
    just reissuing the same talking points
  • 27:44
    over and over to US rank and file he
  • 27:50
    does say he's a ham so he does get to
  • 27:52
    save the world twice which is kind of
  • 27:54
    cool thank you very much then we have
  • 27:58
    this is again anonymous Adam and John
  • 28:01
    I'd like to say thank you for keeping me
  • 28:02
    sane these past few weeks with a
  • 28:04
    donation of $50 I guess should she's on
  • 28:06
    the list it's been a while since my last
  • 28:07
    donation I'm a registered nurse at a
  • 28:09
    major Medical Center in Los Angeles as
  • 28:11
    of Friday we have eight cases of kovat
  • 28:14
    in the hospital every morning I walk
  • 28:16
    past these zip up white tents they've
  • 28:18
    erected outside looking for activity so
  • 28:21
    far I've seen one person going into a
  • 28:22
    tent I do of course remain hopeful the
  • 28:25
    case numbers remain low I learned an
  • 28:29
    interesting tidbit about the
  • 28:30
    much-sought-after masks in our morning
  • 28:32
    meeting yesterday apparently we have an
  • 28:34
    abundant supply of them however the
  • 28:36
    fifth floor that is the deep state of
  • 28:39
    this hospital are rationing them out yes
  • 28:42
    the fifth floor it's where those in
  • 28:44
    power stay never to be seen
  • 28:46
    oh and doesn't sound too busy in that
  • 28:49
    particular Medical Center Cook County
  • 28:51
    Illinois
  • 28:52
    I live in suburban Chicago
  • 28:56
    not exactly the hotbed the New York City
  • 28:58
    is but they're over 1900 cases in Cook
  • 29:00
    County nineteen hundred cases in Cook
  • 29:02
    code
  • 29:02
    Conny - my friends are nurses at
  • 29:04
    different suburban Cook County hospitals
  • 29:06
    both are either unreduced hours or on
  • 29:08
    vacation the reason no work all elective
  • 29:13
    or discretionary services at the
  • 29:15
    hospitals are over only emergency and
  • 29:18
    covert work is being done most of the
  • 29:20
    floors are empty the media would have
  • 29:22
    you believe that every hospital is
  • 29:23
    storing people in the hallways and looks
  • 29:25
    like Armageddon yes that is what's
  • 29:27
    embedded in your mind and you saw it on
  • 29:30
    the tic-tock videos a couple months ago
  • 29:32
    that's what's in your brain it's it's
  • 29:33
    embedded there I have it - I can't help
  • 29:35
    it that's really not the case a lot of
  • 29:38
    places I'm not saying it won't get there
  • 29:39
    maybe and it won't be all neck deep soon
  • 29:41
    but no I don't see it that way now
  • 29:44
    tomorrow might be a new day then we have
  • 29:47
    clinician Jason we are all seeing the
  • 29:49
    constant posts and news about healthcare
  • 29:51
    professionals running out of masks and
  • 29:53
    gloves and you possibly ask yourself how
  • 29:55
    does a hospital run out of masks so
  • 29:56
    quickly do they prepare for this the
  • 29:58
    answer is no the white collar's who work
  • 30:00
    in the executive suite of hospitals went
  • 30:02
    to business school were taught and
  • 30:04
    implemented Sigma Sai lean process
  • 30:07
    improvement and especially Toyota's
  • 30:09
    just-in-time inventory management which
  • 30:12
    usually provides only one to two weeks
  • 30:13
    of inventory supply to make things look
  • 30:15
    better on the balance sheet works very
  • 30:18
    well when the world is running perfectly
  • 30:19
    don't work so well a time like this who
  • 30:21
    would have thunk while the lab people
  • 30:23
    and perhaps doctors and nurses have been
  • 30:25
    forced to undergo training and testing
  • 30:27
    on how to react during some sort of
  • 30:29
    microbial attack or catastrophic or
  • 30:31
    catastrophe since 9/11 the corporate
  • 30:33
    side couldn't bother to throw a few
  • 30:35
    extra cases of masks in the basement in
  • 30:37
    event there's a sudden run on them or a
  • 30:39
    short interruption in the supply chain
  • 30:40
    so when health care providers start
  • 30:42
    getting sick or worse due to lack of
  • 30:44
    personal protective equipment don't
  • 30:46
    blame the Preppers China or even the
  • 30:48
    CEOs who sent their manufacturing there
  • 30:50
    I do blame the suits who work in the
  • 30:52
    same facility as the doctors getting
  • 30:54
    sick who are also considered
  • 30:56
    non-essential employees who get to sit
  • 30:58
    home during all of this we've enforced a
  • 31:00
    train for an event like this for almost
  • 31:02
    20 years and places are running out of
  • 31:04
    masks and days because just because
  • 31:05
    someone thought it was a good idea to
  • 31:07
    implement the same inventory management
  • 31:09
    auto manufacturers used in hospitals
  • 31:11
    that provide essential emergency health
  • 31:14
    care
  • 31:15
    and Kirkland Washington well the
  • 31:20
    Washington healthcare system is
  • 31:22
    apparently announcing layoffs amid the
  • 31:24
    cove in nineteen outbreak it's so crazy
  • 31:26
    busy and pre the coronavirus California
  • 31:31
    had mobile hospitals they had a 50
  • 31:35
    million masks 2400 ventilators kits to
  • 31:39
    set up 21,000 additional beds but they
  • 31:42
    sold them all so stop already
  • 31:46
    and this is the administrators and
  • 31:49
    people in the hospital's pushing this
  • 31:51
    out to the media because they know their
  • 31:53
    asses on the line if if if if and
  • 31:56
    looking at the new model if it isn't bad
  • 32:00
    as originally predicted then they would
  • 32:03
    look pretty stupid that's all this is
  • 32:05
    about in the flooding the media with it
  • 32:07
    and they're scaring people in the
  • 32:08
    process is beautiful well done everybody
  • 32:11
    no wonder you're losing your ass well
  • 32:16
    not the people who are hosting it
  • 32:17
    they're much richer than we are but
  • 32:18
    actually the guys lose their ass gonna
  • 32:20
    be us I didn't want to mention that but
  • 32:24
    yes that's possible so that what the
  • 32:27
    clips I have today are about some of the
  • 32:29
    industries that are getting screwed oh
  • 32:31
    yay let's look at that
  • 32:33
    well something to look at because
  • 32:35
    there's nothing you can do about it but
  • 32:37
    it's good to know what they are and then
  • 32:39
    there's also a contrary in reports I've
  • 32:41
    been I bet yeah it turns out that
  • 32:44
    al-jazeera is the best place for a lot
  • 32:46
    of these do you say that yeah I found
  • 32:48
    some some clips and al-jazeera as well
  • 32:50
    well most of the most of the US News is
  • 32:53
    just one thing that's it's and they
  • 33:00
    don't say orange man bad anymore it's
  • 33:02
    just that's it I do want to play this so
  • 33:07
    this is kind of a this is the this guy
  • 33:11
    to send a note to his this cuz a doctor
  • 33:14
    in New York at one of the top hospitals
  • 33:16
    and he was sent a note to his family
  • 33:19
    which went viral and that when it's an
  • 33:21
    hour long act but I took a clip from it
  • 33:23
    it's about how to catch the disease and
  • 33:26
    I thought it was interesting is this a
  • 33:27
    good
  • 33:28
    no piece we can take a break from
  • 33:29
    complaining and the guy is the kovat guy
  • 33:35
    and hit that's all he does is work on
  • 33:38
    covert cases mm-hm and he doesn't he
  • 33:41
    thinks it's actually not that easy to
  • 33:42
    catch oh wait a minute this is the guy
  • 33:45
    is he under the Banyan
  • 33:47
    Podcast from time to time this guy just
  • 33:50
    I don't know yes price yeah I think so
  • 33:52
    yeah I think he's done some of the
  • 33:54
    hydroxychloroquine testing as no it
  • 33:57
    could be well here he is telling you how
  • 33:59
    to get Kovas so I think the first thing
  • 34:01
    is how do you get coated you actually
  • 34:05
    said Kovas you know that right yeah I
  • 34:07
    said Kovas because I wrote it down the
  • 34:09
    clip yes so I think the first thing is
  • 34:13
    how do you get coated and I think that
  • 34:16
    this is really important and we've
  • 34:18
    really learned a lot over the last
  • 34:20
    couple weeks two months about how you
  • 34:22
    get this disease and so the overarching
  • 34:25
    theme is sustained contact with someone
  • 34:30
    who has this disease which the vast
  • 34:33
    majority is people with fever and aches
  • 34:36
    or someone who is about to get the
  • 34:40
    disease so someone in the next one to
  • 34:43
    two days who is going to develop
  • 34:44
    symptoms of this disease and so the way
  • 34:48
    that you get this is the transmission of
  • 34:51
    the virus almost exclusively from your
  • 34:54
    hands to your face from your hands to
  • 34:59
    your face and so it's either into your
  • 35:00
    eyes into your nose or into your mouth
  • 35:04
    so there's a lot of talk about contact
  • 35:08
    or getting it through contact hands to
  • 35:10
    face there's also a small thought that
  • 35:12
    it can be aerosolized that it can kind
  • 35:14
    of exist a little bit in the air the
  • 35:16
    thought at this point is that you
  • 35:18
    actually have to have very long
  • 35:20
    sustained contact with someone and I'm
  • 35:23
    talking about over 15 to 30 minutes in
  • 35:26
    an unprotected environment meaning
  • 35:29
    you're in a very closed room without any
  • 35:31
    type of mask for you to get it that way
  • 35:35
    but to very simply state the
  • 35:37
    overwhelming majority of people are
  • 35:39
    getting this by physically touching
  • 35:42
    someone who has this disease or will
  • 35:45
    develop it in the next one to two days
  • 35:47
    and then touching their face and so that
  • 35:51
    actually I think it is incredibly
  • 35:52
    empowering and that's as I think in the
  • 35:55
    hospital in the last two days I the
  • 35:57
    thing that makes me smile a little bit
  • 36:00
    is that I actually know now that I won't
  • 36:03
    get this disease yeah this guy needs to
  • 36:05
    stay away from hot tubs small aviation
  • 36:08
    etc because this is not the way it's
  • 36:10
    supposed to be communicated this is not
  • 36:12
    how social distancing works which well
  • 36:17
    yeah there is that and where's this it
  • 36:21
    stays in the air for 24 hours they touch
  • 36:25
    a dollar bill you'll get it I mean I
  • 36:27
    seriously I can't watch it anymore but
  • 36:32
    it's it's is this in just
  • 36:34
    zero value Sky News has a little bit
  • 36:38
    better RT aj al jazeera the US media is
  • 36:46
    completely worthless and i hope they're
  • 36:48
    held to account when when this is all
  • 36:49
    over
  • 36:50
    well the tale of the tape will be down
  • 36:54
    at Javits Center they're turning into a
  • 36:55
    giant hospital yeah which is completely
  • 36:58
    empty that's where Cuomo completely
  • 37:01
    empty yes where Cuomo does his his press
  • 37:03
    conferences from there's no one there
  • 37:05
    now he says this is for the surge that's
  • 37:08
    coming and the surge the media surge is
  • 37:12
    there which is fueled by the damn chart
  • 37:14
    with the blotches of red everywhere and
  • 37:16
    the increased testing if we're testing a
  • 37:18
    hundred thousand people a day it's going
  • 37:20
    to look like it's spiking it's this is
  • 37:25
    know anyway yeah it's it's hard enough
  • 37:28
    for even for us to just see through it
  • 37:31
    I'm sure people who don't listen to the
  • 37:33
    No Agenda show or similar programs if
  • 37:35
    they're out there they're probably
  • 37:37
    terrified I think they are in fact I'm
  • 37:40
    pretty sure people are terrified yeah
  • 37:43
    and people always say why you'd aren't
  • 37:46
    you scared I get that from somebody no
  • 37:50
    oh you should be why I don't get it okay
  • 37:55
    whatever
  • 37:56
    I don't know what it's just it's beyond
  • 37:59
    me let me let's play this this is a clip
  • 38:01
    because what you just said but the
  • 38:04
    testing I want you to listen to this
  • 38:06
    clip this is a real short clip from Amy
  • 38:08
    Goodman and it's called Corona in USA
  • 38:10
    and I want you to listen to the logic of
  • 38:13
    this the number of cases in the US has
  • 38:16
    surged 85,000 people the number is far
  • 38:20
    higher because of the lack of testing
  • 38:24
    Wow the lack of testing the lack of
  • 38:30
    testing it's now it's at a hundred
  • 38:32
    thousand a day but the media including
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    Amy want more testing more testing and
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    and that and the shills who were like
  • 38:41
    Nancy Pelosi more testing or testing so
  • 38:45
    we can show it's getting worse because
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    she wants a fourth bill mind you she and
  • 38:49
    Maxine Waters want a fourth coronavirus
  • 38:53
    rescue bill so they need to have more
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    terror more fear they and of course this
  • 39:00
    will all surround the president's you
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    know wishful statements of going back to
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    work at least being ready to rare and to
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    go by Easter April 12th no no this is
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    now being politicized of course course
  • 39:16
    just trying to kill us a bad orange man
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    now one more Amy clips I forget either
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    way sure there's Corona deaths and Trump
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    yeah all good the number of cases in the
  • 39:27
    US has surged to 85,000 people the
  • 39:31
    number is far higher because of the lack
  • 39:34
    of testing as president Trump continues
  • 39:37
    to defy his scientific advisors and
  • 39:39
    downplay to the close of the highly
  • 39:42
    contagious disease
  • 39:43
    at least 1,300 people have died across
  • 39:46
    the US and the global death toll is more
  • 39:49
    than 24,000 okay so this is egregious
  • 39:53
    let me just play that a beginning again
  • 39:54
    the number of cases in the US has surged
  • 39:57
    to 85,000 people the number is far
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    higher because of the lack of testing as
  • 40:04
    President Trump continues to defy his
  • 40:06
    scientific advisors and down
  • 40:08
    play this is a lie it's just a lot it's
  • 40:12
    not even close to true it's unbelievably
  • 40:15
    the threat of the highly contagious
  • 40:17
    disease at least 1,300 people have died
  • 40:21
    across the US and the global death toll
  • 40:24
    is more than 24,000 I have jumps fault
  • 40:28
    too by the way
  • 40:29
    of course it is and and this is going to
  • 40:31
    come and let me see well if you want
  • 40:33
    that means being politicized here I'll
  • 40:35
    just might as well play it Nancy Pelosi
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    on CNN and remember she is setting up
  • 40:41
    the she's setting up two things she's
  • 40:44
    setting up another bid like a real
  • 40:46
    boondoggle bonanza bill which I don't
  • 40:50
    think we need anymore or maybe we should
  • 40:53
    see somewhere but it's already in her
  • 40:55
    head and she's ready for impeachment
  • 40:57
    again when you hear politicians in a
  • 40:59
    true crisis politicizing I'd love to see
  • 41:03
    if you can point towards wartime this
  • 41:05
    has been declared a war by the media by
  • 41:08
    politicians by the president by multiple
  • 41:10
    leaders so it's a war if you hear
  • 41:13
    political itta sizing going on then it's
  • 41:16
    really not that dire and I think in real
  • 41:17
    war you don't hear going on with Nancy
  • 41:20
    Pelosi says here to Jake Tapper on CNN
  • 41:22
    from he is considering relaxing federal
  • 41:25
    guidelines for coronavirus for some of
  • 41:26
    the less affected parts of the country
  • 41:29
    do you think he should well first of all
  • 41:31
    let me just say how sad it is that even
  • 41:33
    since the president signing of the bill
  • 41:35
    the number of deaths recorded has
  • 41:37
    doubled from 1,000 to 2,000 in our
  • 41:40
    country this is such a very very sad
  • 41:43
    time for us so we should be taking every
  • 41:46
    precaution what the president his denial
  • 41:50
    at the beginning about was deadly his
  • 41:53
    delaying of getting is the equipment to
  • 41:57
    word it continues his delaying getting
  • 42:00
    equipment to words needed is deadly this
  • 42:03
    is unbelievable
  • 42:04
    just showed you that's not true but he's
  • 42:07
    delaying of equipment getting to where
  • 42:09
    it needed to get to his deadly Ally by
  • 42:12
    any account by any account no one has
  • 42:14
    died because it didn't have a ventilator
  • 42:17
    is Pelosi is really an evil human being
  • 42:21
    and now I would think the best thing
  • 42:24
    would be to do is to prevent more loss
  • 42:26
    of life rather than it opened things up
  • 42:29
    so that because we just don't know we
  • 42:32
    have to have testing testing testing
  • 42:34
    that's what we said from the start
  • 42:35
    before we can evaluate what the nature
  • 42:40
    of it is in some of these other regions
  • 42:42
    as well I don't know what the purpose of
  • 42:45
    that is I don't know what the scientists
  • 42:47
    are saying to him I don't know what the
  • 42:49
    scientists said to him when did the
  • 42:51
    president know about this and what did
  • 42:55
    he know what did he know when did he
  • 42:57
    know it that's for an after-action
  • 42:59
    review but as the president fiddles
  • 43:02
    people are dying and we have to we just
  • 43:05
    have to take every precaution so as the
  • 43:09
    president fiddles which is her reference
  • 43:11
    to Nero as Rome burned is that what
  • 43:14
    she's saying oh yeah and we'll figure
  • 43:19
    out what he knew when he knew and why he
  • 43:21
    didn't act after the fact because
  • 43:22
    there's gonna be another inquiry why the
  • 43:24
    hell should we stop with that geez
  • 43:28
    meanwhile there's even some thinking
  • 43:31
    that the botched testing which was
  • 43:33
    completely contained within the Centers
  • 43:36
    for Disease Control may actually have
  • 43:39
    been sabotage towards the president
  • 43:41
    wouldn't surprise me now the former
  • 43:43
    Assistant Secretary of Health and Human
  • 43:45
    Services for preparedness and response
  • 43:47
    tells Sinclair exclusively why he
  • 43:50
    believes the testing process was held up
  • 43:52
    for so long in my conversations with
  • 43:54
    members of the task force both inside
  • 43:56
    and outside the administration into the
  • 43:58
    US government from secretary Hayes are
  • 44:00
    to the president relied on the Centers
  • 44:03
    for Disease Control to produce a test
  • 44:04
    they fail CDC said they would handle it