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1194: Mint19

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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November 28th, 2019
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Executive Producers: John Klene, Sir Hubert, knight of the Wide Wild East of the Middle Kingdom, uncle of the tiger, Sir Cal, Sir Code Monkey, Sir Matt Viscount of Victoria, Sir Hashtag, Sir Ray Jacobsen, Sir 10t, Duke of the Seventh Federal Reserve District, Sir Warren Carroll, Dame G Money

Associate Executive Producers: Matthew Ogley, Baronet Stephen of Oswego, Earl Sir Dave Fugazzotto, Myles Putnam, Roger Wehrli, Kristine Codega, Robert Simpson, James W Gilkeson, Zander Wallachia, Sir Maxine Waters Gravel, Sir Dirt Farmer of Illinois

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Start of Show
Woodstock
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    it's a nightmare Adam curry is no agenda
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    [Music]
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    in the morning everybody
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    I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon
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    Valley where I'm loving my mint 19.2 I'm
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    Jesse boy it's it's our it's our
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    biannual events ladies and gentlemen
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    every two years Adam and John will try
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    once again to install and live with
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    Linux and how are you doing well a
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    couple of things one if you run mint or
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    I'm sorry yeah MIT nine point yes
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    nineteen point two I did and I had to
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    install that and test it because it's
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    code name Tina
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    exactly like that's a sign from the gods
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    I need to try this yes I did travel bit
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    worked out for if you had not answered
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    correctly I knew this one yeah I did I
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    divert row machine installed it all hey
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    it's still a little too heavy for what I
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    want what it were you're running it now
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    what not I just this moment cuz I still
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    have the Skype issue oh yeah quite a
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    couple of things I would recommend
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    people would listen to this team as well
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    do the following go track down ultimate
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    mint 19 okay it's on SourceForge and
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    it's a three gigabyte to install that
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    includes about a hundred apps all built
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    in and all to and it's pretty complete
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    these days isn't it well this particular
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    ultimate mid-nineteen which is a year
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    old uh-huh but they claimed to whoever's
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    doing it they claim that they will
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    support it till 2023 it's the LTS yes
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    that's correct
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    yeah and it's live it's live so you can
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    just put it from the cd-rom but it
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    it's unbelievably complete I know it's
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    got everything is good it's got
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    everything you once you get bored you
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    figure out first of all you gotta figure
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    out where are all these apps and then
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    you realize they're all in the Start
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    menu you know what I've noticed and I
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    have my own Linux experiences over the
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    past few days that because of the the
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    historical culture of Linux because it's
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    open-source allows for incredible
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    customization on everything I mean you
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    can reset key key shortcuts you can move
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    stuff around and of course what this
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    results in is a lot of preference panels
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    and nothing and you really gotta learn
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    it because you're like well I do it's
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    like I'm using that clause male it's
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    like we have preferences and preferences
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    for this account and then tools you have
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    all this other stuff so but once you
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    figure it out it's quite enjoyable
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    because you can actually make stuff work
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    the way you want it to work
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    well it's old-fashioned
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    is that what I say when I say
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    old-fashioned I mean old-fashioned in
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    the sense of what you just described
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    that was you know never allowed by the
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    Mac users and then no oh no they always
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    go back and forth of the PC user well we
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    could do this we can do that and we can
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    do that and then pretty soon we do we
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    could do it but no one would do it and
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    so it just all fell by the wayside and
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    now Linux comes back with a really that
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    old-fashioned approach of you want to do
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    this you want to do that it has probably
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    too many competing settings and this are
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    all kind of preset on the ultimate mint
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    which I would recommend people to start
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    with that yeah but the another thing I
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    renters are these packaging operations
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    first of all I I found a Skype for this
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    it's like just to the Skype on on
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    lubuntu God people are like what the
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    hell these guys doing
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    I tested Skype ladies and gentlemen it
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    was actually pretty good it I didn't
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    have any problems didn't have any issues
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    sound was good least on the test Skype
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    service sounds boy I should probably try
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    this because mint is supposed to be very
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    amenable to Skype but I'd wanted to put
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    it through a snap package yeah these
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    over here so I'm looking into this you
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    know say what is the hell said I look up
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    snappy you know I surprised manager oh
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    okay yeah and then you can oh wait a
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    minute yes okay snaps there's a bunch of
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    these the problem that I find that you
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    know Linux is confusing because there's
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    a million distros and they're all
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    competing with with each other I thought
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    this was a great idea have a package
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    manager that you just write code for
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    that and then you can put it on all the
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    different distros well the package
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    managers went into competition with each
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    other and there's like 20 of them yeah I
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    know they all hate each other and this
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    doesn't work I'm still kind of an an apt
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    and apt-get guy but that's just by the
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    way you don't have to type - get anymore
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    just apt that's what that's what I've
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    used as historically well I just got
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    yeah I'm kind of intrigued by this
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    there's app image and auto package and
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    flat pack and zero install no I don't
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    know about that one oh yeah there's a
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    bunch of these things it's a nightmare
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    so what I would
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    realized night and I I tried xfce I
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    tried the alter them the same mint you
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    have and I'm gonna really like the
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    minimal install Lubuntu it does have the
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    full office you know it's got your
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    little players for you know audio and
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    video and those kinds of things but
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    really I'm email and a web browser and I
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    don't need it and no I don't need any
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    other apps I don't do any photo stuff so
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    that's all and it runs fast from the
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    from the USB drive in a virtual machine
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    which is even more interesting
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    so there's another layer I can't wait to
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    get it installed on the hard drive
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    itself because then it'll really fly
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    it's fast in fact in some ways it's and
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    now I understand what the problem is
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    with all these you know like Windows but
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    particularly the Mac made it so
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    beautiful so easy everything is smooth
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    and that's what's eating up all your
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    resources that but your screen is eating
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    up all the resources just all this all
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    this overhead and I really don't care
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    you know the DUI is growls our resources
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    are for yes anyway that's your Linux
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    update everybody thanks for tuning in to
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    there's anyone left on the stream well
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    Happy Thanksgiving John Happy
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    Thanksgiving to you and happy
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    Thanksgiving everybody that's actually
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    listening today we probably don't have a
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    lot and we probably will have not a lot
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    of downloads but I want to thank
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    everyone yes and now we need to that you
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    are traditional traditional history of
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    Thanksgiving which is something new to
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    it so I'm looking over my you know the
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    true damage I'm the Grinch of
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    Thanksgiving and I just want to mention
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    I read it from an old blog post from
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    2005 I'm always amused by the
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    cock-and-bull story about Thanksgiving
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    about pilgrims Mae's turkeys and Indians
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    when the holiday stems from an Abe
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    Lincoln proclamation at the behest of a
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    magazine editor the road to today's
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    Thanksgiving has a rocky road in fact
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    I'm not sure when the
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    bologna began about the pilgrims and the
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    Indians actually took hold in the
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    folklore but I find it offensive that is
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    taught in schools as fact it's
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    considered fact by everyone now did you
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    hear Trump's version of oh no you have a
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    clip well he did the history of the of
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    the of the pardoning of the turkey which
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    goes back goes back to Lincoln and then
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    of course that's now my understanding is
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    actually George Bush that really
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    invented well listen to this
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    as we gather this week with loved ones
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    across our beautiful land we give thanks
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    to God for the many gifts that he has
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    bestowed upon us today we also come
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    together to honor the beautiful
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    feathered friend to the noble turkey now
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    that's a beauty it's said that Abraham
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    Lincoln was the first president to spare
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    a Thanksgiving turkey at the request of
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    his son in 1947 President Harry Truman
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    accepted the first annual National
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    Thanksgiving turkey in the decades that
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    followed presidents from Kennedy to
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    Reagan would show mercy to their birds
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    but it was George HW Bush who first
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    issued an official pardon in keeping
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    with that tradition today I will issue a
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    pardon now did you see the pardon
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    ceremony
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    I saw the only only the part where the
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    guest trying to a peach yeah I'll just
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    play it out to a pair of very handsome
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    birds butter and his alternate bread
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    would have been funny if he would
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    diamondden silk that would have been
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    really cool that's true look at you
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    their names were chosen by the students
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    of Harold's Christian Academy in North
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    Carolina great state thankfully bread
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    and butter have been specially raised by
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    the Jacksons to remain calm under any
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    condition which will be very important
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    because they've already received
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    subpoenas to appear it's Adam shifts
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    basement on Thursday
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    you know how whenever he's bitching
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    about something during his campaign
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    during his rallies he'll say it's true
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    it's true and he does it here he does
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    the biggest lie that everyone knows is
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    lost bent on Thursday it's true people
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    have it seems the Democrats are accusing
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    me of being too soft or Turkey but bread
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    and butter I should note that unlike
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    previous witnesses you and I have
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    actually met it's very unusual in any
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    event I expect this pardon will be a
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    very popular one with the media after
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    all turkeys are closely related to a
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    vultures I don't know if I like that
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    line but this is speaking the writers
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    room on the fly cold reading his jokes
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    well just and I want to get back to
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    Thanksgiving but I just have a short
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    clip he did this rally in Sunrise
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    Florida and he signaled something
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    spectacular which a number of producers
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    caught and I was I was very surprised
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    and I can't decipher it have a listen
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    they'd like to try in to mean always
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    watch the world this is that let me tell
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    you we're winning you're smarter you
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    better look in your shopper
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    and they call themselves a leaf but if
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    they're elite than where the super elite
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    they talk about these people that are
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    elite that you know that are running I
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    mean have you been watching these
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    debates
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    what's elite about that guy what's elite
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    there's nothing elite but we're doing
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    great we're gonna have a tremendous
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    victory but when I ever perfect call
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    think of it
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    33 what they get away with and don't
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    forget explain this to me he throws the
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    code 33 in in the middle of a sentence
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    for no reason it makes no sense
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    listening getting watched elite there's
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    nothing elite but we're doing great
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    we're gonna have a tremendous victory
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    but when I have a perfect call think of
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    it
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    33 what they get away with 33 what
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    Wow the thing is it was so well done I
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    didn't catch it the first time as we did
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    we point out on the show we endlessly
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    yes yes than once because I wouldn't
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    have caught that unless I'd clipped it
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    and then played it actually but when I
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    ever perfect call think of it 33 what
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    they get away with I find it peculiar
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    all of a sudden he throws in a thirty
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    three just a random Lou random lucious I
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    guess talking to you right now 33 thing
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    you know I just would do that hmm now
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    this there was a reason after the show
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    I'm gonna have to just talk and talk and
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    talk 33 and then throw 3-3 and maybe it
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    was saying something in reverse speech
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    maybe I'll have to reverse it after the
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    show
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    listen I don't know is the if I found it
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    extremely odd anyway thanks back to
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    Thanksgiving yes so Thanksgiving is a
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    you know a holiday was kind of created
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    it was they did have some one dinner or
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    parent in two 1600s with some Indians
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    and there's some cartoons about but it's
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    just propagated as some sort of a
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    celebration that began back when in fact
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    it was referring mostly to Thanksgiving
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    for the soldiers who weren't killed in
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    one of these wars especially the Civil
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    War didn't became promoted by some
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    busybodies in the 30s and 40s it became
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    a tradition after a while it was more of
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    a patriotic thing around the turn of the
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    century and I puts a couple of pictures
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    in the newsletter showing this there was
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    a lot of flag waving and stuff that goes
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    on it's been kind of that's been kind of
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    denigrated and now we want who deep
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    there's even talk of this thing called
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    friendsgiving well and you made a very
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    good point in in the newsletter and as I
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    was reflecting upon that the the
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    transition from Thanksgiving to
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    friendsgiving he's made perhaps part of
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    really a globalist
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    I mean it's not much different than
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    trying to diminish and and really get
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    rid of the Dutch tradition of the black
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    Petes in Calamba Christopher Columbus it
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    used to be a big deal particularly with
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    some immigrant groups now he's a racist
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    and you know it's indigenous or labor
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    this is its it appears more to be a
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    global push to just remove any national
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    traditions that you may have because
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    we're you know we are the world we are
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    the children we're all one global family
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    and this has to go
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    and the friendsgiving I it really
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    removes at least the original idea of
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    hey you know we we we went through some
  • 15:27
    hardships we almost died and we made it
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    we came out the other end and here's
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    this great country which yep true or not
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    doesn't matter that's the story like
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    Santa Claus isn't real either but we
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    still have traditions and stories and
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    stuff and there's a meaning behind it
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    and that's it and the whole idea of a
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    thankfulness but it's the wrong part it
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    should be you can't even do it that way
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    I mean Thanksgiving is you're giving
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    thanks and what are you giving thanks
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    for well you know stuffing your own life
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    and for like today if today we're
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    friends giving it would be it wouldn't
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    make sense for me to say I'm really
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    thankful that my dad passed away
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    yesterday so I'm thankful that he that
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    he literally passed away you know he's
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    slipped away
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    and I'm thankful he was my dad
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    friendsgiving couldn't even mention it
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    you know that about you sorry for your
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    loss but you never see him but you know
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    he's not well I live he was a baby
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    I'm very handsome yeah I'm very happy
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    that I saw him a couple months ago when
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    I'm one of my critters yeah no I saw him
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    and I had to seen him in years cuz he
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    was the last 10 he was in a home and the
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    last three he was nice toast ready for
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    what I understand quite the character
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    well I have a lot of his humorous timing
  • 16:47
    I look in the mirror and like oh man I
  • 16:49
    look like him too dammit at least but he
  • 16:52
    had his all his hair you know I kept his
  • 16:53
    hair but but back to your point yes it
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    was friendsgiving I'm disappointed you
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    didn't say love and light that would
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    have made me feel a little better I
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    never say that because for some reason I
  • 17:06
    can't pull it off
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    thanks for anything but you know they're
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    gonna what's gonna happen is they're
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    gonna reverse engineer this into some
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    sort of an International Harvest
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    Festival
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    so it's nervous fast and this thing
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    let's see how that harvest we'll have to
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    see how that goes not that I have a clip
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    but following on with the Dutch the
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    Germans and the French farmers are now
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    blocking highways all over Western
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    Europe with their tractors because
  • 17:41
    they're done with it they're done with
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    all of this but they may not be a
  • 17:45
    harvest anymore well I don't know what's
  • 17:48
    going on weather triggers every tractor
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    in France apparently is on one of the
  • 17:53
    freeways in Paris what do you mean I
  • 17:56
    mean you have you seen those pictures I
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    mean this house is attracted what most
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    things should be out killing Germany had
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    eight and a half thousand tractors
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    I mean it's fantastic the farmers are
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    revolting it is a farmers revolt and no
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    one is no one is paying any attention to
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    it we are well okay you're right
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    but turn on the news and tell me you see
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    one story about this it's ridiculous
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    no it's Trump Trump Trump and PG but
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    even in those countries themselves the
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    it's yeah it'll be front page for a
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    minute and then okay it's done and then
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    that's if it didn't happen
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    well back back to Thanksgiving yes I
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    just had the one final thing every year
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    I report you know something about the
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    bogus nests of the whole thing which I
  • 18:47
    because I'm playing into the into this
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    whole globalist notion by doing this
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    report but I got another new I added a
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    new twist to it because then I don't
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    know how I grant into this and started
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    looking at cuz we have turkeys all over
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    town and looking at and by the way the
  • 19:03
    wild turkeys out of Florida oh my god or
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    those things get the biggest tail
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    display it looks like a wicker basket
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    it's dynamite
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    Osceola rather they're called so I got
  • 19:13
    into reading too much about turkeys and
  • 19:14
    it turns out because this was brought up
  • 19:17
    at our dinner table a number of times
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    and I think I've heard it and maybe she
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    even taught in schools is that Ben
  • 19:24
    Franklin wanted the turkey to be the
  • 19:27
    national bird rather than the eagle yes
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    I've heard this story total bullcrap
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    Ben Franklin also flew a kite in a storm
  • 19:36
    and got electrocuted so well that could
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    be both got to but this is total bull
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    crap and it was created and it actually
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    became the thing in schools around 1960
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    to tell me it was an ad agency no it was
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    a cover of a New Yorker magazine where
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    they made the turkey and then they
  • 19:53
    related the story and this story got
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    into vogue and it became like a thick
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    just became folklore that became a truth
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    which is a real problem in this country
  • 20:04
    and everywhere around the world were
  • 20:05
    something somebody passes that would
  • 20:07
    that make sense oh yeah frankly he'd be
  • 20:09
    that kind of guy and they they had us
  • 20:11
    they had a letter from him to his
  • 20:14
    daughter or somebody and he's moaning
  • 20:16
    and groaning about the bald eagle being
  • 20:18
    that the two hoots he thinks is a
  • 20:20
    chicken shit bird because it steals from
  • 20:23
    other birds that don't work it goes on
  • 20:26
    and on about this and then he casually
  • 20:28
    says you know the turkey would be a
  • 20:29
    better bird it's at least as an honest
  • 20:31
    bird but that was about as far as you
  • 20:34
    went with it he never protested the
  • 20:36
    establishment okay so well then it was
  • 20:39
    like a New York Times of the day because
  • 20:41
    that's what they do draw a conclusion
  • 20:42
    yeah office allusion was drawn that
  • 20:45
    turkey emblem with on the seal is put on
  • 20:48
    the cover of 1962 New Yorker and the
  • 20:52
    rest is history all of a sudden this is
  • 20:54
    a fact Snopes should have a debunking of
  • 20:57
    that it should be very clear check Falls
  • 20:59
    there's another one there's a second
  • 21:01
    myth tied to the alterations President
  • 21:03
    Truman made to the presidential seal
  • 21:05
    it's sometimes said that the eagle on
  • 21:08
    the presidential seal changes during
  • 21:10
    times of war to face the arrows instead
  • 21:13
    of the Olive Branch oh this one is
  • 21:16
    unquestionably false although somewhat
  • 21:19
    understandable from 1916 to 45 the Eagle
  • 21:21
    didn't face the arrows a version that
  • 21:24
    can still be seen on the resolute desk
  • 21:25
    but it was changed when Truman existing
  • 21:28
    issued executive order nicely this is an
  • 21:30
    executive order nine six four six
  • 21:33
    modifying the seal so that the eagle
  • 21:35
    faced it Olive Branch a gesture symbolic
  • 21:38
    of the post-war nation's dedication to
  • 21:40
    peace
  • 21:44
    we're full of information on this show
  • 21:49
    the turkey thing has got to go - that's
  • 21:53
    it no it's gonna be a problem you know
  • 21:55
    there's this new movie out in which I
  • 21:57
    don't think it's gonna be in theaters
  • 21:59
    even but it's James Cameron aren't
  • 22:01
    Arnold Schwarzenegger like a whole slew
  • 22:04
    of big names and it's called game
  • 22:07
    changers and yeah you can host the
  • 22:11
    viewing and it's a whole movement I
  • 22:13
    haven't quite figured out who's behind
  • 22:15
    it but it's something of the day and and
  • 22:18
    you know I'm sure this will include
  • 22:20
    Turkey by next year they ate a lot of
  • 22:26
    meat they show this commercials mistake
  • 22:30
    that's what amis selling that idea that
  • 22:34
    grilled man ate meat serious man but you
  • 22:37
    got to understand that's marketing this
  • 22:39
    is based in reality I've been teaching
  • 22:43
    fighting techniques to government
  • 22:44
    agencies for more than 15 years van I
  • 22:47
    got injured unable to teach for at least
  • 22:50
    six months I spent more than a thousand
  • 22:52
    hours of studying science on recovery
  • 22:54
    and nutrition and stumbled across a
  • 22:56
    study about the Roman gladiators
  • 22:58
    declared eaters were predominantly
  • 23:00
    vegetarian how could the original
  • 23:02
    professional fighters eating only plants
  • 23:08
    when I made the switch to a plant-based
  • 23:10
    diet probably fucked my third Olympic
  • 23:12
    team I broke two American Records a man
  • 23:16
    I should have done this a long while ago
  • 23:19
    when I would plant bass I wasn't sure if
  • 23:22
    I was gonna survive and I actually
  • 23:24
    became like a machine one of the biggest
  • 23:29
    misconceptions in sports nutrition is
  • 23:30
    that we have to have animal protein to
  • 23:33
    perform at a high level that's just not
  • 23:34
    true someone asked me how could you get
  • 23:39
    as strong as an ox without eating any
  • 23:41
    meat and my answer was have you ever
  • 23:43
    seen an all eating meat
  • 23:45
    [Music]
  • 23:49
    there you go it's a game-changer man
  • 23:52
    plant-based all the cool guys are doing
  • 23:55
    it yeah I saw I was Jay had been turned
  • 24:01
    on to this video and she said you gotta
  • 24:03
    watch this
  • 24:04
    did you eat just I watched as much as I
  • 24:07
    as I could
  • 24:10
    well as you saw obviously the problem
  • 24:14
    with it is it it it's just at some point
  • 24:18
    you it's like okay I get your point
  • 24:21
    and you just get sick of it it's just
  • 24:23
    it's it's almost like they're insecure
  • 24:27
    about their point yes there's plenty of
  • 24:29
    athletes who are vegetarians that do
  • 24:31
    very well they have a very generally
  • 24:34
    speaking that it's not something you can
  • 24:36
    do when you're growing up or it's not
  • 24:37
    something necessarily that you can do
  • 24:39
    like for example we I have a I know
  • 24:42
    people that have dogs that put on a
  • 24:44
    vegetarian diet the dogs have all kinds
  • 24:46
    of healthy dogs yeah you can't do that
  • 24:49
    that's cat so you can feed him anything
  • 24:54
    we had a story about that where the the
  • 24:58
    veterinarians were saying no you can't
  • 24:59
    do that you can't put your these animals
  • 25:02
    need to some they have a particular diet
  • 25:05
    you can't make a plant-based only
  • 25:08
    and they don't talk about that in this
  • 25:10
    in the show and Schwarzenegger is
  • 25:12
    disingenuous because he would he was a
  • 25:14
    big monster bodybuilder he was not a
  • 25:16
    vegetarian no uh-uh I mean there are
  • 25:20
    vegetarian athletes who didn't perform
  • 25:23
    as well well I mean they or they were
  • 25:26
    subject to all kinds of weird injuries
  • 25:28
    so you get but in yeah if you're
  • 25:32
    conscientious you know what to do and
  • 25:34
    how to eat and get all the right amino
  • 25:36
    acids and everything in your diet
  • 25:37
    through plants you can do that with a
  • 25:39
    lot of sesame seeds it's fine you go out
  • 25:41
    and eat that way and be that way so what
  • 25:43
    what dimers doesn't make tit doesn't
  • 25:45
    make any difference to me no but I don't
  • 25:48
    get the point it was the point of this
  • 25:50
    exercise well the point is from my
  • 25:54
    perspective it's working this is
  • 25:58
    indoctrination and it's without a doubt
  • 26:00
    agenda21 driven it is you know it's the
  • 26:04
    impossible meat it's the I can't believe
  • 26:07
    it's cost more than real meat oh yeah
  • 26:09
    but you find that to be disturbing and
  • 26:11
    it has a bunch of calories it's not like
  • 26:13
    the burger is catalyzed in all kinds of
  • 26:15
    chemicals you might as well be eating
  • 26:17
    Soylent blue or green know so I think
  • 26:20
    Green is people man oh I'm sorry
  • 26:22
    and one day if and we should be careful
  • 26:25
    the dogs will turn on us eventually
  • 26:28
    people understand this you know already
  • 26:31
    with it and this is all part of the same
  • 26:32
    thing you know dogs are people too and
  • 26:34
    boy we tell them what to eat and we tell
  • 26:37
    them when to go to the bathroom what are
  • 26:38
    they going to turn on us you know fairly
  • 26:41
    gonna eat you tonight they're gonna me
  • 26:42
    I'm gonna you and I just learned that
  • 26:47
    cats
  • 26:49
    technically by European law this is big
  • 26:53
    news now in in the EU
  • 26:57
    cats in Europe by EU law aquinnah this
  • 27:00
    was all written up in the Journal of
  • 27:01
    environmental law are not allowed to be
  • 27:04
    outside untethered you are not allowed
  • 27:07
    to have an outdoor cat in the European
  • 27:09
    Union because they are a danger to
  • 27:10
    almost three hundred and seventy
  • 27:13
    different types of animals yeah
  • 27:16
    including bubonic plague history over
  • 27:22
    there in the EU no man the creating
  • 27:24
    heading no cat thing going on back
  • 27:27
    during the era of the Black Death and
  • 27:29
    they turns out that the cats could have
  • 27:31
    controlled the whole thing by but no no
  • 27:34
    the cats were bad oh that's interesting
  • 27:36
    so the the black plague or the Black
  • 27:41
    Death what was it was the black the
  • 27:43
    plague Black Plague Black Death so
  • 27:46
    there's information that that could have
  • 27:48
    been avoided if they had let the key if
  • 27:49
    they had had cats running around yeah
  • 27:54
    they didn't have any cats running around
  • 27:56
    cuz cats were evil they were it was
  • 27:59
    they're in some for example in my
  • 28:02
    neighborhood just on the side of a hill
  • 28:04
    there's a lot of rodents in the area
  • 28:07
    there's Gophers and there's mice and
  • 28:09
    there's some rats but not as many as
  • 28:12
    there are mice and and we used to have a
  • 28:14
    an old cat woman across the street that
  • 28:18
    has all this feral cats that she would
  • 28:20
    feed and so there's be a like ah
  • 28:23
    probably 20 of them and then another
  • 28:26
    neighbor thought kindly on the woman had
  • 28:29
    the caps captured and neutered hmm so
  • 28:32
    they wouldn't you wouldn't just go crazy
  • 28:34
    around here so but we did have these 20
  • 28:36
    or so feral cats they're all over the
  • 28:38
    place and there was no mice no of course
  • 28:41
    not no mice now the cats since they were
  • 28:45
    neutered it all died off there's no more
  • 28:46
    feral cats in the neighborhood this took
  • 28:49
    place over a long period
  • 28:50
    now there's mice you gotta get my
  • 28:52
    mousetraps and glue traps and everyone
  • 28:54
    smells good so much you get one mouse or
  • 28:56
    two in the house and this is disturbing
  • 28:59
    you know in future you might want to do
  • 29:02
    a little tutorial on how to get rid of
  • 29:04
    how to get rid of mice we've already
  • 29:06
    done the ants so yeah well I've hear
  • 29:09
    something
  • 29:10
    Tibet I don't want to discuss the best
  • 29:13
    way because everybody moans and groans
  • 29:15
    about it well you're not allowed to
  • 29:17
    stomp on them anymore you know there's a
  • 29:18
    the president no the president just
  • 29:21
    passed a law against me can't stomp on
  • 29:25
    yes yeah there's a let me see I have it
  • 29:27
    here somewhere he he passed the law and
  • 29:31
    it what it's the anti animal crush act I
  • 29:34
    think I'm looking for it now because
  • 29:36
    apparently there's a lot of people who
  • 29:39
    film and post to online video sites
  • 29:43
    videos of them crushing small animals
  • 29:47
    for fun crushing him to death yeah yeah
  • 29:52
    yeah preventing animal cruelty and
  • 29:54
    torture Act which I'm sure can easily be
  • 29:57
    expanded to you know having a dog or in
  • 30:00
    the house or a cat outside yes it's the
  • 30:04
    pact Act here it is it should be
  • 30:06
    unlawful for any person to purposely
  • 30:08
    engage in animal crushing in or
  • 30:11
    affecting interstate or foreign commerce
  • 30:13
    or within the special maritime and
  • 30:16
    territorial jurisdiction of the United
  • 30:18
    States
  • 30:19
    anyone who intends or has reason to know
  • 30:21
    that the animal crush video will be
  • 30:24
    distributed in or using a means of
  • 30:26
    facility of interstate or foreign
  • 30:28
    commerce commerce or the animal crush
  • 30:31
    video is distributed online
  • 30:35
    and
  • 30:38
    so you are not allowed to post videos or
  • 30:41
    even intend to produce a video
  • 30:46
    that displays conduct or visual
  • 30:50
    depiction of conduct that is the
  • 30:53
    slaughter of animal instead is okay
  • 30:55
    there's a lot of things you can do so
  • 30:56
    you can stomp on a fish if you catch it
  • 30:58
    if it's for food if it's for research if
  • 31:03
    you're euthanizing the animal which they
  • 31:05
    also go in detail about but apparently
  • 31:08
    it this is so rampant and it may even be
  • 31:11
    a sexual fetish that people film this
  • 31:16
    crushing of animals and post it online
  • 31:18
    yeah yes wants to see that well enough
  • 31:24
    people that they had to make a law about
  • 31:26
    it
  • 31:28
    it must be a pretty big deal is that
  • 31:31
    still out in Crescent cuz I have to do
  • 31:34
    that with a southern accent because we
  • 31:35
    know the only southern horse way yes of
  • 31:38
    course yeah now is that on the Federer
  • 31:41
    is that what we can see these videos
  • 31:44
    probably hey I just want to point out
  • 31:48
    one thing by the way about this the Ben
  • 31:50
    Franklin myth and some of these other
  • 31:52
    ones the guy writing about the men--the
  • 31:54
    myths this Jimmy Stamp he was writing in
  • 31:57
    the Smithsonian about him and he see I
  • 32:00
    got a read this sentence about because
  • 32:02
    he's writing about myths and he says in
  • 32:07
    part by a 1962 illustration for the
  • 32:09
    cover by so-and-so who imagined that the
  • 32:11
    Great Seal of the United States might
  • 32:13
    look what it might look like if a turkey
  • 32:15
    did become our national emblem above
  • 32:17
    image got a picture however while it's
  • 32:19
    hard to imagine that overstuffed
  • 32:22
    flightless bird in our on our currency
  • 32:24
    and the president's lectern he goes on
  • 32:27
    and on it's not a flightless bird this
  • 32:29
    is another myth the turkey is they're
  • 32:33
    very flight 'full yeah they can get in
  • 32:36
    fact they can fly to higher altitudes
  • 32:38
    and we normally see them flight normally
  • 32:40
    use him it's a pretty frightening thing
  • 32:42
    to see
  • 32:45
    they're not really very very aerodynamic
  • 32:47
    looking nobody they can get up I was
  • 32:50
    reading all about turkeys for some dumb
  • 32:52
    reason and I was reading that many
  • 32:54
    turkeys can get up to you know they can
  • 32:57
    fly at altitude okay the more you know
  • 33:03
    on the No Agenda show beautiful let's
  • 33:06
    get into some some nutjob stuff I got
  • 33:10
    some nutjob stuff that's all that we got
  • 33:12
    for this show well now we got I got more
  • 33:14
    stuff I got multi parters I did some
  • 33:17
    more live I have multi have one
  • 33:18
    multi-partner first identified this over
  • 33:22
    on the no agenda reddit I made the
  • 33:25
    mistake of checking in once again it was
  • 33:28
    more to see how the browser rendered on
  • 33:29
    reddit can and so the this term that's
  • 33:35
    been floating out there is now rampant
  • 33:38
    is that Trump is a cult
  • 33:41
    oh you're here this why I've got that I
  • 33:43
    got a whole bit about this oh uh what is
  • 33:47
    it with clips but but wait wife clips
  • 33:50
    too well why don't you do it wait wait
  • 33:52
    wait more importantly what is the GUI
  • 33:56
    you're using for your Linux
  • 33:59
    the GUI for Linux I'm using
  • 34:07
    xfce I think how I'm using cinnamon oh
  • 34:10
    yeah okay yeah yeah that I'm talking
  • 34:13
    about
  • 34:14
    he was talking about the windows manager
  • 34:16
    no I'm just using Lubuntu which is
  • 34:18
    minimal it has almost it's it's nothing
  • 34:20
    it's not command-line there has to be so
  • 34:22
    I have a command line - of course yeah
  • 34:24
    of course everyone does it's just it's
  • 34:26
    nothing it's nothing it's very is very
  • 34:29
    small so I'll send you a screenshot all
  • 34:32
    right now back to the cult if I don't
  • 34:34
    want to okay I got three clips well
  • 34:38
    dunno why don't you do your cult thing
  • 34:39
    and I'll play my clips okay well I'll
  • 34:41
    start with one clip which I think you
  • 34:44
    don't have and this is so besides seeing
  • 34:46
    it everywhere in our own group people
  • 34:48
    accusing no agenda producers of being a
  • 34:51
    cult the cult of Trump I'm noticing in
  • 34:54
    the mainstream which of course is where
  • 34:56
    these jamokes pick it up from and I I
  • 35:00
    would like to point out this was I got a
  • 35:02
    note from one of our producing he's you
  • 35:04
    add cult to the longer the laws yeah
  • 35:07
    Trump rotation calm rotation I said I
  • 35:09
    don't you got a bad on no I don't think
  • 35:11
    so and then I started hearing and
  • 35:13
    hearing it now brother okay this is Rick
  • 35:17
    Perry I think which Anna Navarro
  • 35:22
    okay so Anna Navarro you know the nutjob
  • 35:25
    Republican who's always on CNN yelling
  • 35:28
    about Trump so she posted that Rick
  • 35:32
    Perry is is the main cult member you
  • 35:35
    know like one of the lieutenant's just
  • 35:37
    listen to this clip and it's so clear
  • 35:39
    that he's in a cult and you'll see that
  • 35:41
    cult maybe code for something else God
  • 35:43
    used imperfect people all through
  • 35:46
    history King David wasn't perfect Saul
  • 35:48
    wasn't perfect Solomon wasn't perfect
  • 35:50
    and I actually gave the president a
  • 35:52
    little one pager on those Old Testament
  • 35:55
    Kings about a month ago and I shared
  • 35:57
    with him I said mr. president I know
  • 35:59
    there are people that say you know you
  • 36:01
    said you were the chosen one and and I
  • 36:04
    said I said yes you're the chosen one
  • 36:08
    so there's a very thin line between
  • 36:11
    calling an outfit a cult and then saying
  • 36:15
    all because it's a religious thing or
  • 36:17
    it's Christian it's a cult
  • 36:19
    and what Perry used there were terms you
  • 36:24
    specifically by the family if we talked
  • 36:26
    about the family the family in Indy sees
  • 36:30
    all the these religious guys yeah that
  • 36:34
    operation with it with the house yes
  • 36:36
    it's on Netflix have a whole list
  • 36:37
    good special I think we should recommend
  • 36:40
    people see it yes it's the family a lot
  • 36:44
    to watch but they but they literally say
  • 36:46
    you know they're looking for the wolf
  • 36:48
    you know who will shepherd the sheep and
  • 36:52
    Donald Trump is this is the people who
  • 36:54
    outed their hands on him there was a
  • 36:55
    picture a couple of years ago the
  • 36:57
    evangelicals were all there praying
  • 36:59
    those are the guys from the family and
  • 37:00
    they used the example of King David and
  • 37:03
    the term in imperfect you know the
  • 37:07
    imperfect leader so you know this
  • 37:11
    there's a lot going on here and I'm and
  • 37:14
    I know what you're going into because
  • 37:16
    there's a book that came out about the
  • 37:17
    cult of Trump but there is an actual
  • 37:19
    kind of religious cult in DC which Perry
  • 37:22
    may very well you know have be in
  • 37:24
    contact whether it belonged to and I'm
  • 37:26
    just gonna call it a cult because it's
  • 37:28
    looking at that documentary it seems
  • 37:30
    very college to me
  • 37:34
    I agree I grease very cult-like
  • 37:36
    operation it's mainly one charismatic
  • 37:40
    leader that runs it and he's the guy who
  • 37:43
    would make it a cult if it wasn't for
  • 37:45
    him it was just a club but he just like
  • 37:47
    a paternity and he just died different
  • 37:49
    didn't he just died recently think he
  • 37:51
    did yeah so now it's just gonna be this
  • 37:53
    situation that happened with the Church
  • 37:56
    of Scientology where you have a bunch of
  • 37:59
    guys scrambling to take over the place
  • 38:00
    right with the one guy emerging who's
  • 38:04
    worse than the original it was Doug
  • 38:06
    co-ceo II dug coal way to go yeah and
  • 38:10
    Doug Coe he died $0.20 he always stayed
  • 38:14
    in the back end he was really
  • 38:15
    interesting because he was one of those
  • 38:16
    guys who me people should watch this
  • 38:18
    special because he went out of his way
  • 38:22
    to stay in the background yeah very very
  • 38:25
    low-key
  • 38:27
    but he's everywhere man every president
  • 38:30
    but now if you know they could this this
  • 38:33
    could be a part of outing them I don't
  • 38:34
    know I'm just feeling there's a lot of
  • 38:36
    stuff and I hear Perry using these exact
  • 38:37
    terms got me suspicious well I have a
  • 38:41
    different explanation that was brought
  • 38:42
    up and I I'll be kind of you owe me a
  • 38:45
    play my except so he just started this
  • 38:48
    is the seltzer water guy on CNN yeah I
  • 38:51
    saw this interview and so he starts off
  • 38:54
    by introducing a guy wrote the book
  • 38:56
    you're just discussing let's play clip
  • 38:58
    one tea I talked about his claim that
  • 39:00
    Trump supporters are in a cult just last
  • 39:03
    week dan Rather said he thinks support
  • 39:05
    for Trump seems increasingly cultish and
  • 39:07
    this weekend in The Washington Post
  • 39:08
    Trump critic and her hosting strategist
  • 39:10
    John Weaver said the GOP is not a party
  • 39:13
    anymore in the traditional sense it's a
  • 39:15
    cult
  • 39:16
    none of them are mental health experts
  • 39:18
    Steven Hassan is he's out with a brand
  • 39:20
    new book called the cult of Trump he has
  • 39:23
    first-hand experience escaping the
  • 39:25
    unification Church back in the 70s and
  • 39:27
    he's decided to write this book because
  • 39:28
    he believes there's something seriously
  • 39:31
    wrong with our politics so there's a guy
  • 39:32
    who's of course immediately equated cult
  • 39:35
    to a religious organization
  • 39:38
    sun-young moon yeah but he the fact that
  • 39:43
    he was susceptible to being suckered
  • 39:45
    into a cult makes me wonder whether he's
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    he's got a bone to pick or he's pissed
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    off about the cult not doing what he
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    wanted it to do or but he was already
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    had some I don't know how to explain
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    this but I don't trust someone he's got
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    to be biased is what you're saying this
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    guy that or or you're selected the guy
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    who used to be a smoker or the guy who
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    used to be an alcoholic yeah that the
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    world they're the worst
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    why you drink you shouldn't be drinking
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    ex alcoholics I hate a man they're the
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    worst they are clean up their act and
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    then you know I don't drink I don't
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    drink I don't know why you drink what
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    are you drink nobody should drink I
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    don't drink you don't drink you
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    shouldn't drink I drink I don't drink
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    so you go on and on a vibe and I've been
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    sorry then they brag about how long
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    they've been sober I just want to stay
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    sober for five years why you drinking
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    people who are sober that are to be
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    applauded I do want to say that you're
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    sober but I don't need the aggravation
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    personally it's like vegans I'm vegan
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    yeah same thing
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    vegans are probably worse let's face it
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    no there's only one thing worse is when
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    you say I'm a podcaster I mean you might
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    could you be an ex-alcoholic I'm yeah
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    okay here podcaster all right
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    the so I'm skeptical of this guy because
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    of this his own background of being in
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    the unification Church and then he's
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    gonna tell everybody else what's gone
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    but you know and he's a Trump hater it's
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    pretty apparent when you listen to clip
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    two so I define a destructive cult as an
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    authoritarian pyramid structured group
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    with someone at the top who claims to
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    have total power and total wisdom that
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    uses deception and and control the
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    behavior information thoughts and
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    emotions to make people loyal and
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    dependent and obedient followers so for
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    me the the issue of between an ethical
  • 41:48
    healthy cult where you're free to think
  • 41:51
    and free to leave versus a destructive
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    cult I'm referring to Trump's
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    organization and and Malo worship as a
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    destructive cult where people are being
  • 42:02
    fed propaganda and they're not being
  • 42:05
    encouraged to think for themselves and
  • 42:07
    not being encouraged to really explore
  • 42:10
    and and look at the details and arrive
  • 42:13
    at their own conclusion much of what
  • 42:15
    they're hearing is emotionally driven
  • 42:18
    loaded words foster stopping and and
  • 42:22
    thought terminating type cliches like
  • 42:24
    fake news or build the wall or make
  • 42:28
    America great again you say the
  • 42:29
    president is using mind control but
  • 42:32
    how's it provable so look we can start
  • 42:35
    with the pathological lying which is
  • 42:38
    characteristic of destructive cult
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    leaders saying things in a very
  • 42:42
    confident way that have nothing to do
  • 42:45
    with facts or truthfulness the the
  • 42:49
    blaming others and never taking
  • 42:51
    responsibility for his own failures and
  • 42:54
    faults shunning and kicking out anyone
  • 42:58
    who raises questions or concerns about
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    his own behavior his use of
  • 43:04
    fear-mongering and immigration is a
  • 43:08
    horrible thing it is frightening to hear
  • 43:11
    a cult expert say that you see all these
  • 43:13
    signs right now today in American
  • 43:16
    politics yeah this was a good piece of
  • 43:18
    that interview
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    now couple things one he says it's a
  • 43:23
    cult is somebody can't leave and people
  • 43:25
    are leaving this cult all the time then
  • 43:28
    he asked him to secede
  • 43:30
    he never said anything about mind
  • 43:31
    control but he but seltzer water says
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    yeah this is how did how could you prove
  • 43:36
    that that he's brainwashed cause he's
  • 43:39
    lying he's lying because he's lying is
  • 43:42
    what he says that's that's your expert
  • 43:45
    on cult that that was his top reason
  • 43:49
    well lots of people lie doesn't mean
  • 43:51
    their cult leaders and now he that but
  • 43:54
    just there's a lot of it which is it's
  • 43:56
    nonsense but I mean to me it was
  • 43:58
    complete projection what he was saying
  • 44:00
    well what you say I was just insane to
  • 44:02
    settle Dutch saying yeah but you said
  • 44:04
    bring yourself meet you cope through the
  • 44:06
    health it's like what you were saying
  • 44:07
    about the others is what you are
  • 44:09
    yourself this totally he actually went
  • 44:11
    on I know if she saw the whole interview
  • 44:15
    he said and you know seltzer water drew
  • 44:17
    the conclusion that well a Thanksgiving
  • 44:19
    you can you know just offer people well
  • 44:21
    why don't you look at one of my stories
  • 44:23
    now look at one of your stories and
  • 44:24
    exactly the advice they should be taking
  • 44:26
    themselves these particular I refuse to
  • 44:31
    listen listen to Rush Limbaugh yes oh
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    yeah there's a lot of that that's the
  • 44:35
    common thing you hear stuff like that
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    I don't refuse to listen to anybody so
  • 44:40
    in fact I've been listening to one of
  • 44:41
    these guys I can't remember his name but
  • 44:43
    he's a left-wing to me listening to me
  • 44:45
    for 12 years I mean alright so so of all
  • 44:52
    people that have kind of the best
  • 44:54
    explanation for this that actually makes
  • 44:56
    nothing but sense
  • 44:57
    mmm-hmm it's got at about of course yeah
  • 45:01
    so here listen to what he has why is
  • 45:04
    this cult thing even around he has an
  • 45:07
    explanation that to me who literally
  • 45:10
    explains it
  • 45:12
    okay so my first occult day okay so my
  • 45:16
    worldview is completely consistent so my
  • 45:19
    worldview says president Trump did not
  • 45:22
    do anything impeachable and therefore
  • 45:25
    will not be removed from office now if