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1174: Soros Jugend

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 51m
September 19th, 2019
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Executive Producers: Sir Dwayne Melancon, Grand Duke of the Pacific North West

Associate Executive Producers: Sir Dave Fugazzotto Earl of America's Heartland and Saudi Arabia, Michael Goodell, Daniel Ostlund

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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Guy Verhofstadt's Speech at Liberal Democrat Conference
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20:25
Brexit
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23:33
Saudi Arabia Oil Installations Drone Strike
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42:02
Picture Released of Justin Trudeau Wearing Blackface in 2001
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46:33
Saturday Night Live Fires Shane Gillis for Past Racist Remarks
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54:58
The New York Times Under Fire for Publishing Discredited Opinion Piece on Brett Kavanaugh
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57:44
Credits
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1:09:30
US Federal Reserve Pumps $75 Billion Into Markets
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1:14:05
Joe Biden
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1:23:39
Global Climate Strike
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1:26:25
NBC News' Climate Confessions
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1:31:38
House Select Committee on the Climate Crisis' Joint Hearing on Global Youth Climate Movement
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1:39:41
Mukbang
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1:44:41
OTG: Mandatory Faraday Bags
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1:48:15
Untitled
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1:49:59
BBC Launches 'Own It' App to Prevent Kids From Sending Cyberbullying Messages
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1:51:00
Ring Doorbell Footage Used in Domestic Abuse Case in Phoenix
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1:52:36
Fort Collins, Colorado Launches Community Broadband Network Offering 1 Gbps for $60
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1:53:38
OTG: Nokia 2720 Flip
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1:55:26
iPhone's Dark Mode
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2:01:56
Untitled
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Los Angeles Times: 'Op-Ed: How an Idaho Court Decision Will Increase Homeless Encampments on L.A. Streets'
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2:07:17
Donations
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2:13:15
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:15:28
Meetups
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2:16:52
Online Payroll Company Vanishes With $35 Million
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2:21:58
Vape Wars
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2:30:50
Untitled
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2:32:46
Tucker Carlson Tonight: 'Experts Say the Flu Could Kill Millions In Just 36 Hours'
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End of Show Clips
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2:42:11
US Justice Department Files Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden for Breaching Secrecy Agreements by Releasing Book
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Office of the Director of National Intelligence: 'Acting DNI Maguire Statement on USA Freedom Act'
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End of Show
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    dark mode is here Adam curry Jhansi
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    Devorah Thursday September 19 2019 this
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    is your award-winning Gitmo nation media
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    assassination episode 11 74 this is no
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    agenda being scrubbed slowly and
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    broadcasting live from opportunity zone
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    33 in the frontier of Austin Texas
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    capital of the drone star state in the
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    morning everybody by Adam Curry and
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    from northern Silicon Valley I see a
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    yellow truck I'm John C Dvorak okay is
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    it a big yellow truck is not that be a
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    nice kindness your spiel is it a dump
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    truck it was a small pickup truck as a
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    matter of fact and now that I think
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    about it as I look out and I can see B I
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    can look out and and see the freeway
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    I don't see anything but gray and black
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    and the occasional red white what car
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    colors ooh I saw one blue there's a
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    great great great great great black
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    black black gray black black white I
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    mean this is it's dull out there John
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    also this yellow truck stands out like a
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    sore thumb did men in white coats get
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    out of that truck in front of your house
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    so boring to see these w-what can take
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    me back in I was a kid in the fifties I
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    used to have three tone cars oh yeah
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    yeah tan roof
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    well I'm sad to report and I'm pretty
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    sure nine I'd and I I wouldn't call it
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    shadow banning but the new Twitter
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    algorithms are definitely screwing with
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    me and I attribute that to the fact that
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    I have no blue checkmark and I can see
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    it I post something normally within five
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    minutes there might be 10 20 retweets or
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    likes now 2 3 maybe I retweet myself
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    maybe wanted to pick up all all kinds of
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    reports of people even entering at Adam
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    Curry in the search box doesn't
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    autocomplete so I think the and by the
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    way I'm not seeing a lot of people
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    either I never see Scott Adams anymore
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    not that you know it's that much of none
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    of this is a really a problem for me but
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    when it comes to the show like
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    announcing the show and you know just
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    announcements it's not working for us
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    anymore here let me see what I got now
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    buy it on the bat-signal let's see
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    so we have how many people we have in
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    the we've got 763 trolls and looks like
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    four retweets come on so it's a college
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    I don't call it shadow banning I don't
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    think that's what it is this is just the
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    algorithms like oh this guy let me help
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    you out with that
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    okay I can't do it at now cuz it's real
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    complicated but I will walk you through
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    a process to make your life to make this
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    less of an issue there's a process yeah
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    no just tell me simply what is the
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    process I don't believe it I think this
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    is just the settings and you got it you
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    gotta take a and look at what Twitter is
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    determined that are your interests oh no
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    I understand
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    I can change it uncheck a million boxes
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    have you done that if you cha unchecked
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    any boxes well then what happens I see
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    more of who I want to see I want people
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    to see me know it changes it it's like
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    that the boxes that are checked yeah are
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    represented milieu oh I mean the wrong
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    milieu I see hmm well
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    yeah maybe you've got a solution now but
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    this there's no this is not a I'm not
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    saying this is a good thing I mean even
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    the solution is like sketchy right but
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    it does help a little bit well this is
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    why I'm going to suggest two things
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    first of all after today's show I will
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    post in the show notes
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    an invitation link to no agenda social
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    calm I mean this is clearly we need to
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    have some mechanism so now you can get
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    all kinds of apps and they can give you
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    alerts but when I'm posting and there's
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    all kinds of stuff we can do because the
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    Twitter is over for us and yes so maybe
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    now I can change my perceive milieu I
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    don't know what I have to check or
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    uncheck yeah but that's not that's no
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    future for us it's just going to get
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    worse and I think it's time to reinstate
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    no agenda hams what don't you remember
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    we had a repeater we had reflectors we
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    had echo link channels we had all kinds
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    of cool stuff going on ya know why it
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    was to be fair seven or eight years ago
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    but it was like yeah it was not long
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    after we started with the after you got
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    me into the Hobby let's know I see okay
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    yeah you were you're all jacked up there
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    goes the Zephyr thank god you're all
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    jacked up buddy yeah well I am I'm
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    reject and it's and I think with good
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    reason and I've set up my my HT my handy
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    set that up again and I'm monitoring on
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    D star reflector 33 charlie right now in
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    fact if anyone can I saw you know yeah
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    I'm thinking I've just as I think about
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    this I saw those tweets yeah that's when
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    the algorithm went in the the full force
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    and and shadow bad oh my god one of
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    these guys get off but I I think we have
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    a ham radio as a competitor it is and
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    if you I think that we have enough
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    people now to start up the No Agenda
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    nation repeater network which could be -
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    you know it should it should actually be
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    a repeater to repeater Network we may
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    have people in close enough proximity to
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    get a lot of that instant you know not
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    rely on the on the internet back-end but
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    I'm gonna be Ondi star on reflector 33
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    charlie and I'm going to be monitoring
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    and the conversation I'm interested in
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    having this was the problem we had
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    nothing to talk about
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    we had the No Agenda hands like yeah
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    yeah your rig sounds great yep yeah it's
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    coming through fine yes good all the
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    conversations it's pretty much but now
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    we can talk about building our repeater
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    network which will be handy for
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    something you know you can do a digital
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    and we can do a lot in fact you know
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    what we need their own CubeSat that's
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    what we need if every there's an idea if
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    every and if just continuously we could
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    be the ones we could be the ones who
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    save the world when all hell breaks
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    right fly right but I think a CubeSat
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    a CubeSat could really could really do
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    it
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    you can leave messages on those too for
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    them to be rebroadcast now here we have
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    ham radio guys ham radio is the public
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    service network of last resort when the
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    apocalypse comes we're the guys who are
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    going to save the world right right
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    but I'm serious I I want to build this I
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    want to build a repeater in I want
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    people to set up we can do echo linked
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    reflectors we need to do cross cross
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    linking between reflectors we need
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    analog with a repeater to repeater and
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    I'll meet you on D star and of course be
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    like so someone needs to set up a
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    reflector again and then we can do it on
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    echo link and if you don't know what
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    this is you're missing out on a fabulous
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    hobby known as amateur radio and you too
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    can become a ham today anybody who
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    listens this show can pass the tech test
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    probably probably just right now study a
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    couple minutes and you definitely pass
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    well the beauty of it is that the
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    questions for each test for each year
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    are released publicly with the answers
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    you get the test it's the same answers
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    just in a different order if you can't
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    and by the way that's well it's not all
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    of them sure it's just a a selection of
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    them anybody can do this and you can get
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    a ham radio that would work on this
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    network for 25 bucks now yeah the Bayeux
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    trying to go Oh T G and using Chinese
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    crap to do it with it's great well
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    that's the cheapest stuff that's for
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    sure yeah so
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    and and and are no agenda hams are so
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    alert not a single one has called me on
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    the channel like Oh watch I'm gonna
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    mention it on the show and they're gonna
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    fire up their machines and start talking
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    to me nope
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    well so I have a way to go with the
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    eventual evangelizing of the project
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    well that's the way it always just yeah
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    yes
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    uh-oh lot going on it was actually a lot
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    going on it's all subtle yeah I mean the
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    brexit thing what's going on did you by
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    the way I did just to start with if you
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    want to start with breakfast sure this
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    guy you know Giggy vanderhoven bluffin
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    he's the Belgian guy the Belgian guy who
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    you hope sound exactly like when you do
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    that voice yes sure I am given hofstadt
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    I am very very nice to be here in the
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    show well here's a I got two clips from
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    him there's actually shows three but
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    when it was just a long clip that we
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    don't want to play but we got he went to
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    London and he was at the meet up or
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    convention of des Liberal Democrats who
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    are all wearing get you know stop brexit
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    and you know Liberal Democrats are
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    really New World Order uh globalist that
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    they don't like England any more than
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    half the people of England writing well
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    yes that's known like the country yeah
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    and so this guy he's gonna go he gives
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    one of the keynotes and gets a big round
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    of applause but he had two moments in
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    the keynotes that I thought were
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    worthwhile besides him trying to be
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    funny which he apparently does
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    constantly yeah and this would be the
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    this is one that I just heard
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    offhandedly and I felt it needed to be
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    rethought and this is Gyan brexit
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    interpret dis I have one conviction that
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    breakfast happens is also assigned this
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    European Union needs to be modernized
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    needs to be more effective we cannot
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    continue
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    we cannot continue the friends where the
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    Europe that is always acting too little
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    and too late yes she cannot go on like
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    this as I said to my wife this morning
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    that's hey it's pretty hard not to laugh
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    at this guy because it is his accent yes
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    well this particular commentary which
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    was short it was a what was it the
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    length 21 second what he's saying there
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    was he started by saying the brexit was
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    a only happy wait let me I'm gonna
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    deconstruct it completely and tell you
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    what he actually said was that brexit
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    should have never have happened because
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    the it only happened because the EU is
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    too weak to put the kibosh to put the
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    kibosh on the whole thing to begin with
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    they were they just were not strong and
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    underneath that thinking is that we
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    needed a European army and we need to
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    you know we shouldn't let these
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    countries do stuff like this brexit
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    mmm-hmm and that's what he said he
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    literally said stop if we had our act
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    together brexit would have never have
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    happened because we wouldn't have
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    allowed it but let's listen one more
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    time it's only 20 seconds I have one
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    conviction that breakfast happens is
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    also a sign that this European Union
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    needs to be modernized needs to be more
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    effective we cannot continue
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    we cannot continue the friends with a
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    Europe that is always acting too little
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    and too late and friends we will be
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    acting on behalf of the European Union
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    vvill gives them shit if they try to
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    leave it's not going to happen on my
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    watch
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    yep yeah but this guy is a total douche
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    he's a he isn't order Kratz love him
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    he's the guy I on I have the he's the
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    guy that said you have to hand over all
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    your sovereignty yeah cuz way he's the
  • 13:33
    guy you're right
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    he has such a jocular style of delivery
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    that you don't take it too seriously as
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    you should
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    this guy is threatening you yeah
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    as I can't find it that easily but
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    anyway oh yes here we go here it is it's
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    20 seconds as well it guy speaks in 20
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    seconds sound bytes how about that and
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    that is the real problem colleagues why
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    there is such a problem in this crisis
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    because member states are reluctant to
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    transfer new sovereignty and powers to
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    the European Union and we all know that
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    the only way out of this crisis is a new
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    transfer of powers to the European Union
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    and to the European institution and make
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    it Snell yes it's not it's not a one-off
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    this guy is very consistent yeah and
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    they're loving it over there too the Lib
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    Dems
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    anyway so he did the thing somebody's
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    one of our producers sent me this flip
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    and I pulled that other part but he's
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    the emphasis everybody's making is on
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    this clip which is I don't know it's I
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    don't think it's as onerous as the other
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    one is longer but it does tell you a
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    little bit about some of the kinds of
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    screwball thinking that goes on and this
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    is
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    aggi on the new world order of tomorrow
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    in the world order of tomorrow the world
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    order of tomorrow is not a world order
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    based on nation states or countries it's
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    a world order that is based on empires
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    China is not a nation it's a
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    civilization hung in you you know it
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    better than I do is not a nation there
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    are two thousand nations in India 20
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    different languages that are used there
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    there are four big religions at the same
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    time it is the biggest democracy
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    worldwide the u.s. is also an empire
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    more than a nation maybe tomorrow they
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    will speak their more Spanish than
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    English I don't know and then finally
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    the restaurant phaedra the world of
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    tomorrow is a world I gotta start do you
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    hear what this dick just did actually
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    it's like being overrun by immigrants
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    you can't be speaking Spanish tomorrow
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    this is exactly what's happening in his
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    backyard in Europe people are coming in
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    who do not learn the native languages of
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    the Member States
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    if you dig deeper into what he's saying
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    and again nobody takes him seriously
  • 16:04
    because of where he talks but he's
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    saying that look at India it is there's
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    20 or I guess he said 20 languages that
  • 16:15
    they're all speaking but yet it's this
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    big democracy that seems to work get
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    that out but it's somehow it works
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    according to him India is they're moving
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    to Europe because they got no water
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    this is shithole oh shit let's finish
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    the clip I'm sorry I didn't mean it
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    interrupt but I think come on time it is
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    the biggest democracy worldwide
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    the u.s. is also an empire more than a
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    nation maybe tomorrow they will speak
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    there more Spanish than English I don't
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    know what will happen in the last and
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    then finally the restaurant phaedra the
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    world of tomorrow is a world of empires
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    in which we European and new bridges can
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    only defend your entry
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    your way of life by doing it together
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    any European framework and in you
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    [Applause]
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    and those difference those who want to
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    defend or standards of living of social
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    standards or ecological standards our
  • 17:27
    labor standards can only do that they
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    know it only in the framework of Europe
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    and inside Europe in the center a
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    Britain that take its responsibilities
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    and not is going out of this great
  • 17:43
    project
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    yep to me it's unbelievable and they
  • 18:04
    cheer him yeah oh yeah yeah yeah right
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    let's just that now that's this is I
  • 18:11
    don't want to make a analogy that
  • 18:13
    stretches it too far but this is as if
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    Hitler
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    gave a speech in England sand the late
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    30 or mid-30s before a world any of the
  • 18:27
    frictions began and said why don't you
  • 18:31
    just surrender to Germany that way you
  • 18:33
    don't to worry about having this big
  • 18:34
    Wars gonna kill a bunch of people and
  • 18:36
    we'll all be happy and we'll get this
  • 18:38
    done together because you guys can't
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    take to keep care of yourselves you're
  • 18:43
    you're incompetent
  • 18:44
    I need us I could just go on and on get
  • 18:53
    the clips they are applauding this this
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    to me and we're seeing some of this
  • 19:04
    happening in our country there's stuff
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    that's like I mean waiting room who will
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    be talking I'm sure about the the school
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    strike tomorrow and these are all really
  • 19:13
    old the policies from socialist country
  • 19:19
    communist China I mean this is crazy
  • 19:21
    what's happening and this is in the EU
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    he's exactly he's just saying we should
  • 19:26
    go back to how it was in the 40s the
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    good old days
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    I don't know I just find it distressing
  • 19:34
    and they're gonna have another election
  • 19:38
    I'm sure of it
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    breakfast is not gonna happen I mean
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    it's the Brits are so screwed at their
  • 19:44
    core but they're they've already you
  • 19:47
    know they got too many of these Liberal
  • 19:48
    Democrats that are that sort of thinking
  • 19:51
    this is yeah let's just give ourselves
  • 19:53
    away and just throw our sovereignty and
  • 19:56
    give it to the EU just let them have it
  • 19:58
    because we can't we can't manage
  • 20:01
    ourselves we're gonna do it boneheads
  • 20:03
    that's what that's what the guy said
  • 20:05
    that's what he says you guys don't you
  • 20:07
    can't do this we need labor laws that we
  • 20:09
    tell you what to do yeah you guys have
  • 20:11
    he's almost like you had your shot now
  • 20:13
    you gotta listen to us
  • 20:16
    I'm sure that's what he'd like to say
  • 20:17
    that's what he wants to say he's there
  • 20:20
    just what he wants to say I'm sure is
  • 20:22
    much even better than this I do have one
  • 20:25
    brexit clip as now this was very odd to
  • 20:30
    me as the prorogation is now in front of
  • 20:35
    the UK Supreme Court and to see if this
  • 20:39
    is legal and there's all kinds of issues
  • 20:41
    going on and as I predicted I don't
  • 20:43
    think Boris was ever gonna make it
  • 20:44
    happen and now I didn't even know the UK
  • 20:47
    had a Supreme Court they don't have a
  • 20:49
    written constitution it's kind of it
  • 20:52
    yeah well this bits from here and there
  • 20:54
    and we got some precedents and some
  • 20:56
    jurisprudence and the Supreme Court is a
  • 20:59
    dude at a low desk in a small room and
  • 21:03
    like he's it like he's a university
  • 21:04
    professor I think even had a blackboard
  • 21:08
    behind him he's got you know did like
  • 21:10
    binders and crates not you know he's not
  • 21:11
    wearing robes or anything it doesn't
  • 21:14
    even look like me this is one guy you
  • 21:16
    see the court I don't know how it works
  • 21:18
    and then some other guy is pleading his
  • 21:21
    case and this is and they don't know
  • 21:23
    they it's like well you know we you know
  • 21:26
    who determines what's right who is the
  • 21:28
    ultimate authority in the land to do the
  • 21:32
    exercise of the power to prove that
  • 21:34
    Parliament has the potential to affect
  • 21:37
    or undermine Parliament's ability to
  • 21:40
    carry out its constitutional function
  • 21:43
    while holding the executive to account
  • 21:45
    my law by definition my trial exception
  • 21:49
    exactly those terms that I'll be accused
  • 21:50
    of accepting a contentious proposition
  • 21:52
    but McCory Gatien that's the point that
  • 21:56
    I will come back to has the effects that
  • 21:59
    it has as though the bills that were
  • 22:01
    previously before Parliament full they
  • 22:03
    can be reintroduced and so that
  • 22:05
    parliamentary questions cannot be asked
  • 22:07
    so that the parliamentary committees do
  • 22:09
    not sit and so of course to that extent
  • 22:12
    it has the effects that it has that my
  • 22:14
    my submission will be as despite those
  • 22:19
    features this is a well-established
  • 22:23
    constitutional function exercisable and
  • 22:25
    to be exercised by the executive and the
  • 22:28
    question remains
  • 22:30
    whether there are to go back to the
  • 22:32
    rational identified in struggle whether
  • 22:34
    there are judicial manageable standards
  • 22:36
    against which the sort of political
  • 22:38
    judgments that are inevitably interwoven
  • 22:41
    into decisions to propagate at whether
  • 22:44
    there are such standards I'm going to
  • 22:46
    come to analyze that and also but
  • 22:48
    whether it is as a matter of
  • 22:50
    constitutional propriety appropriate for
  • 22:53
    those controls to be exercised by the
  • 22:55
    course as opposed altum at least in the
  • 22:58
    body to which the executive is
  • 22:59
    ultimately accountable and this is how a
  • 23:01
    ghost
  • 23:02
    shut up slaves your representatives
  • 23:06
    don't mean crap they wanted they want
  • 23:08
    the court to make a decision on this
  • 23:12
    well we'll see and he says Constitution
  • 23:15
    like what Constitution now I'm sure of
  • 23:23
    course
  • 23:24
    Horsham does of course will have left
  • 23:26
    plenty plenty helping us out
  • 23:31
    I you know I I spoke to perch annek
  • 23:36
    yesterday ah good what did you find out
  • 23:39
    well I asked him specifically about
  • 23:42
    these the drones and the Saudi Arabian
  • 23:46
    refinery good because I'm like you know
  • 23:49
    what what is what is this is it from
  • 23:52
    Iran did some did Iranian shoot it off
  • 23:54
    in Iraq was that a cruise missile was it
  • 23:57
    some kind of sophisticated drone how did
  • 23:59
    it get through the to the defenses look
  • 24:02
    at by now I think everyone's seen the
  • 24:04
    holes I mean these are what maybe 20
  • 24:07
    yards apart perfect holes in these domes
  • 24:10
    and that that's a pretty pretty badass
  • 24:12
    cruise missile strike and just a whole
  • 24:15
    look there's been a couple I don't know
  • 24:17
    if I have a lead-in clip but there's
  • 24:20
    been a couple of different reports at
  • 24:22
    first I heard there were two draw
  • 24:24
    there's a bunch of these I don't know
  • 24:26
    what the point of the drones were but
  • 24:28
    there were two at least two cruise
  • 24:29
    missiles and then it was NBC I think
  • 24:33
    they said there were there were nine
  • 24:34
    here's this play there's a lead-in clip
  • 24:36
    this is David Martin and this David
  • 24:38
    Martin is probably one of their best
  • 24:39
    foreign correspondent old-time our leads
  • 24:43
    pretty straight in terms of his
  • 24:45
    reporting it doesn't likely lean into
  • 24:47
    the Trump hate thing and and he could be
  • 24:51
    CIA but he gives you a really good
  • 24:53
    reports this is David Martin on the on
  • 24:54
    the drone strike front CBS we're gonna
  • 24:57
    begin tonight with David Martin at the
  • 24:58
    Pentagon who has more on the growing
  • 25:00
    case the u.s. is building against Iran
  • 25:02
    US officials say experts have examined
  • 25:05
    pieces of the wreckage on the ground in
  • 25:07
    Saudi Arabia identified the specific
  • 25:10
    type of cruise missiles and drones fired
  • 25:12
    and determined they were made in Iran
  • 25:15
    other analysts have traced their tracks
  • 25:17
    back to points in southwestern Iran one
  • 25:21
    official called it a complex and
  • 25:22
    coordinated attack involving two dozen
  • 25:25
    drones and nine cruise missiles although
  • 25:28
    vice-president pence stopped short of
  • 25:30
    saying flatly it was Iran it's certainly
  • 25:33
    looking like Iran was behind these
  • 25:35
    attacks our intelligence community at
  • 25:38
    this very hour is working diligently to
  • 25:41
    review the evidence
  • 25:42
    Iran appears to have found by the way
  • 25:45
    that's a great little thing he threw in
  • 25:48
    there the intelligence community at this
  • 25:51
    very hour that's that's war talk that's
  • 25:53
    great you know it's like at this hour we
  • 25:56
    are bombing Baghdad at this hour landing
  • 26:00
    on the beaches of Normandy at this hour
  • 26:02
    there's another tent going up in
  • 26:04
    downtown Austin these attacks our
  • 26:08
    intelligence community at this very hour
  • 26:09
    did he say my intelligence community
  • 26:12
    fantastic pensee no he said he said our
  • 26:16
    intelligence kamar gee I think he's our
  • 26:18
    our our now I miss the best part
  • 26:23
    okay our intelligence community of this
  • 26:25
    very hour is working diligently to
  • 26:28
    review the evidence it's interesting
  • 26:43
    that pants you know I mean there's this
  • 26:45
    issue we've talked about on the show
  • 26:46
    before about the pronunciation of Iran
  • 26:48
    mm-hmm and the insiders had at some
  • 26:53
    level at some side of the fence
  • 26:55
    pronounce that Iran which is what which
  • 26:58
    is what David Martin says if you listen
  • 27:00
    to me says Iran and then of course the
  • 27:02
    other side of this of the pronunciation
  • 27:04
    fences Iran yeah that's wrong that's
  • 27:06
    just wrong it's wrong it's wrong it's
  • 27:07
    wrong
  • 27:09
    repents pronounces it sorry just once no
  • 27:11
    I just got to throw some as some sound
  • 27:13
    effects in there there seems to work
  • 27:14
    really well at this hour great hour is
  • 27:19
    working diligently to review the
  • 27:21
    evidence in Tirana people found a gaping
  • 27:24
    hole in Saudi air defences around their
  • 27:27
    most valuable asset oil Saudi Arabia
  • 27:30
    relies on US made Patriot air defense
  • 27:33
    batteries but they were all pointed
  • 27:35
    south toward Yemen where past missile
  • 27:37
    attacks have come from the missiles and
  • 27:39
    drones that hit the oil facilities this
  • 27:41
    weekend came in from the north
  • 27:43
    the US has patriots of his own and an
  • 27:46
    airbase in the middle of the country but
  • 27:48
    they were too far away having been
  • 27:51
    unable to prevent the attack the u.s.
  • 27:53
    warned it might retaliate we're locked
  • 27:55
    and loaded
  • 27:56
    locked and loaded we're ready to defend
  • 27:58
    our interests and our allies in the
  • 28:00
    region make no mistake about it Lewis
  • 28:03
    has been locked and loaded
  • 28:05
    spring one issue that is my sound effect
  • 28:07
    they just used their listen to it I'm
  • 28:10
    gonna you're gonna hear theirs and then
  • 28:11
    I'll play mine okay you're ready and
  • 28:13
    we're ready to defend our interests and
  • 28:15
    our allies in the region make no mistake
  • 28:18
    about it us that's there's my effect
  • 28:23
    yours is more elaborate mine's better
  • 28:25
    for sure region make no mistake about it
  • 28:28
    USA fed locked and loaded since last
  • 28:30
    spring when it sent an aircraft carrier
  • 28:32
    and b-52 bombers to the Persian Gulf
  • 28:35
    but Joint Chiefs chairman General Joseph
  • 28:37
    Dunford told reporters the president has
  • 28:39
    not yet asked for any military options
  • 28:42
    for now the most concrete consequence of
  • 28:44
    what Secretary of State Pompeo called an
  • 28:46
    unprecedented attack on the world's
  • 28:48
    energy supply is that President Trump
  • 28:51
    said he'd prefer not to meet with
  • 28:52
    Iranian president rouhani next week when
  • 28:55
    world leaders gather at the UN not right
  • 28:58
    now before I get to poach an egg that is
  • 28:59
    a good lead-in thank you for that Shep
  • 29:02
    Smith brought Shep you know Shep Smith
  • 29:05
    Fox News he brought it which I never
  • 29:07
    watched but I did find this clip soin
  • 29:09
    sent it to me he brought up the obvious
  • 29:11
    which we said always has to be part of
  • 29:14
    one of these deals expecting the
  • 29:16
    president shortly we'll play that for
  • 29:17
    you as we get it Michael the bigger
  • 29:19
    picture there was a time when world oil
  • 29:22
    prices factored in risks to oil
  • 29:24
    facilities and there's a name for that
  • 29:27
    it sort of been on the on the side for a
  • 29:29
    while but with with this new drone
  • 29:31
    technology and instability of the region
  • 29:33
    I wonder a bigger picture how concerned
  • 29:35
    you are that this sort of thing could
  • 29:36
    happen again I do worry because what we
  • 29:39
    really need to stop this kind of thing
  • 29:41
    is is directed energy defense laser
  • 29:43
    beams essentially an indefinite number
  • 29:46
    of small if you have to use a missile to
  • 29:49
    take out each drone the economics are
  • 29:52
    against you the geographies against you
  • 29:54
    and the laser technology is coming along
  • 29:56
    but it's not quite economic I'm
  • 29:58
    surprised these guys they don't do any
  • 29:59
    effects they should be doing okay you
  • 30:01
    talking about lasers and shit nothing I
  • 30:03
    call an effective enough yet that it
  • 30:05
    could really protect all these Saudi or
  • 30:07
    other oil facilities so on balance there
  • 30:09
    is going to be some ongoing
  • 30:10
    vulnerability here my guess is we could
  • 30:12
    probably do a little better with the
  • 30:13
    point defense of these kinds of
  • 30:14
    facilities maybe not each and every one
  • 30:17
    but the most valuable the most
  • 30:19
    agile so I think that's the next step is
  • 30:21
    to look into how much better defense you
  • 30:23
    can do there's going to be a certain
  • 30:24
    amount of vulnerability however either
  • 30:26
    way you look at it our allies seem
  • 30:28
    concerned all right so there's Europe
  • 30:32
    there's your military-industrial complex
  • 30:34
    you know thinking about ramping up some
  • 30:36
    directed-energy weapon technology so
  • 30:39
    that we can take those drones down so I
  • 30:43
    spoke to patch enik and I recorded our
  • 30:44
    conversation and I asked him a couple of
  • 30:48
    things and out for those who don't know
  • 30:50
    Steve poach an egg go look him up on
  • 30:51
    Wikipedia p IE CZE and
  • 30:54
    i k he has an unbelievable record and
  • 30:57
    resume a resume for sure record I guess
  • 31:02
    and he certainly has his own take and
  • 31:05
    when I asked him about what kind of
  • 31:07
    drone was this who did this he came out
  • 31:10
    of such a no agenda angle I'm angry I
  • 31:12
    didn't figure it out myself one of the
  • 31:14
    key factors that came out but nobody
  • 31:16
    really realized was the fact that Aramco
  • 31:19
    or the Saudi Arabian oil was to go
  • 31:22
    public recently oh I thought that was
  • 31:25
    off that was off the table it was still
  • 31:27
    ready to go it was off the table because
  • 31:31
    the what we call the strike price or the
  • 31:33
    price of the stock that the initial
  • 31:36
    offering was not what been haha what
  • 31:39
    Mohammed had wanted or the Saudis had
  • 31:42
    wanted because in fact without Saudi oil
  • 31:46
    we do very well thank you very much of
  • 31:50
    America is a net exporter of oil and we
  • 31:53
    do not need Saudi oil the reason we
  • 31:55
    allow Saudi royal to go up there is to
  • 31:57
    really allow them to be our subordinates
  • 32:00
    or sycophants so to say but Mohammed
  • 32:03
    then Salman doesn't want to admit it and
  • 32:05
    I honestly if I were in his military I
  • 32:07
    would have an overthrow because he's
  • 32:09
    really a danger to Saudi Arabia and to
  • 32:12
    the Middle East the truth of the matter
  • 32:14
    is I don't think anything hit those oil
  • 32:17
    - on their own because when you have an
  • 32:21
    IPO and this goes back to my days as a
  • 32:23
    managing director of an investment
  • 32:25
    banking firm and you pull away from us
  • 32:28
    strike price that means you did not make
  • 32:31
    the front of the
  • 32:32
    money that you wanted now Mohammed bin
  • 32:35
    Salman fantasy is that he will make two
  • 32:37
    trillion dollars based on the net asset
  • 32:40
    value of oil in Saudi Arabia there's no
  • 32:43
    way you can say that that's worth two
  • 32:45
    trillion he spends about a hundred
  • 32:48
    billion a year just subsidizing the
  • 32:50
    whole government and using his National
  • 32:53
    Guard to terrorize people and the war in
  • 32:55
    Yemen which he does not be millions of
  • 32:58
    kids have died it's a proxy war against
  • 33:00
    Iran and guess what Iran will always win
  • 33:03
    they've been around a lot longer so the
  • 33:05
    bottom line is I don't believe the story
  • 33:08
    it was a five percent deficit in oil we
  • 33:10
    made it up within minutes and Trump
  • 33:12
    correctly said oh let me see I don't
  • 33:15
    think anything hit them but it was
  • 33:17
    Iranian operatives involved or machinery
  • 33:21
    baloney you know this is a
  • 33:25
    self-described destructive element in
  • 33:28
    order to get the oil price up and it
  • 33:30
    didn't work and I went and looked on
  • 33:34
    Reuters and market watch and it's true
  • 33:37
    they were planning on going public and
  • 33:42
    well we don't know I like the theory of
  • 33:45
    the strike price being off the ie the
  • 33:47
    price of oil wasn't high enough let's
  • 33:48
    see if we can jack it up and now they're
  • 33:50
    saying they want to take it public in
  • 33:52
    November instead of next year so now
  • 33:56
    there's all kinds of IPO news they're
  • 33:59
    really trying to do anything that maybe
  • 34:00
    before oil goes down again even further
  • 34:06
    yeah they ain't plan to go out when they
  • 34:09
    plan to go out the price of oil was too
  • 34:11
    low so that we're gonna get to all that
  • 34:12
    money that they were hopeful and they
  • 34:14
    had to change the as I don't know why
  • 34:16
    says what we call a strike for whose we
  • 34:19
    know he calls a strike prices the price
  • 34:22
    it's what he's now but what he's talking
  • 34:25
    about is the IPO you have it's your
  • 34:28
    price of price it is how is it different
  • 34:32
    than price
  • 34:35
    I don't know why you're acting on that
  • 34:38
    but okay I know I just seemed odd okay
  • 34:41
    you think that's our son right is it it
  • 34:45
    was actually wasn't that it was like it
  • 34:46
    was somewhat patronizing I thought I
  • 34:49
    think he means what he means we as an
  • 34:53
    Adam and Steve because we talk a lot
  • 34:55
    about day trading he's a day trader yeah
  • 34:58
    so that I think that's what he meant I
  • 35:00
    don't think he meant it patronizing he
  • 35:03
    did go on to say that the real problem
  • 35:05
    in all of this is mb/s it's Mohammed bin
  • 35:09
    Salman who we don't talk about much but
  • 35:11
    you see his investments in Twitter and
  • 35:13
    he's trying to do anything he can
  • 35:15
    according to Pacino cause you're here to
  • 35:18
    find additional value in anything he can
  • 35:21
    get his hands on now remember this Adam
  • 35:23
    your audience has to understand this is
  • 35:25
    not the first time the Saudi Arabia has
  • 35:27
    wanted to go public right because they
  • 35:29
    have no indigenous businesses in other
  • 35:32
    words Mohammed bin Salman in his fantasy
  • 35:34
    world is going to my age and William
  • 35:37
    Morris in Beverly Hills he has to reach
  • 35:39
    out all the Jewish guys in order to
  • 35:41
    bring up how does that work out
  • 35:45
    [Music]
  • 35:49
    high-tech companies but in fact the
  • 35:52
    reality is he tried 2017 they failed to
  • 35:56
    go public 2018 they failed to above
  • 35:59
    public a few days ago wasn't an accident
  • 36:02
    when Bolton left suddenly we had a
  • 36:04
    missile strike so to speak in the Saudi
  • 36:07
    gas tanks when in fact there was no
  • 36:08
    missile strike there was a deficit of 5%
  • 36:11
    of oil when there is no debt for system
  • 36:13
    we can make it up in a nanosecond then
  • 36:15
    we do with West Texas Permian oil thanks
  • 36:18
    to you guys right attacks we can make it
  • 36:21
    up we don't even need Brent oil which is
  • 36:22
    $10 more than what we do in whisper mian
  • 36:25
    so basically the Saudis are pretty much
  • 36:29
    screwed they know and we know it and
  • 36:31
    their valuation can never come to their
  • 36:34
    own assessments in other words they have
  • 36:37
    no assets that really are valuable now
  • 36:39
    you know more about the oil market so
  • 36:41
    I'm just gonna presume he knew what he
  • 36:42
    was talking about well he can't say that
  • 36:45
    there's they got nothing of value
  • 36:50
    so that giant pile of oil is worthless
  • 36:52
    is that what he's trying to say there it
  • 36:54
    makes no sense um I think what he's
  • 36:57
    saying is that they're no longer the
  • 36:58
    boss damn they don't have guaranteed
  • 37:01
    customers we're no longer a guaranteed
  • 37:04
    customer we have other choices I think
  • 37:06
    that's the point uh that's not what he
  • 37:09
    said
  • 37:09
    he said they have nothing of value I
  • 37:13
    don't think the oil market is drying up
  • 37:16
    so much - if you pull if you pulled the
  • 37:18
    Saudi oil off the market completely it
  • 37:22
    would have an effect on the oil price no
  • 37:24
    doubt endowed but the this bombing
  • 37:28
    didn't have the effect that was rumor
  • 37:30
    and memorize that was before was chatted
  • 37:33
    about this it was like the oil price had
  • 37:36
    a short spike mm-hmm
  • 37:38
    because oh no and then everyone came to
  • 37:40
    their senses except apparently the TV
  • 37:43
    networks I don't have a clip I don't
  • 37:44
    think where they they brought some goof
  • 37:47
    doofus onto one of the congressmen as
  • 37:49
    well you know we're so weird the paper
  • 37:52
    so dependent on Saudi oil I'm saying
  • 37:54
    what window is this oh yeah I was read
  • 37:57
    was watching Sunderland yeah we're we
  • 37:59
    haven't been dependent on anybody's all
  • 38:01
    week we're self-sufficient hello so when
  • 38:04
    you hear somebody say we're dependent on
  • 38:06
    Saudi oil yeah who's it's bull crap
  • 38:09
    where's he getting this check from is
  • 38:10
    the first question spiked up and then it
  • 38:15
    did ramp down as fast as it spiked up
  • 38:17
    pretty much and it was a net result of
  • 38:20
    nothing exactly nothing burger as you'd
  • 38:22
    like to say no I don't say that I've not
  • 38:25
    yes I've never no find it bullshit
  • 38:33
    recently what you want again two shows
  • 38:36
    oh I'll give you four shows find it make
  • 38:39
    finds eight eight fine done okay and
  • 38:44
    then what count the times you go so uh
  • 38:47
    you're supposed to stop me from doing
  • 38:49
    that it's impossible this is you in and
  • 38:51
    it's the imperfections that make you
  • 38:53
    perfect
  • 38:55
    the point is is that the there's it
  • 38:58
    didn't work he's right but genic is
  • 39:00
    totally right about this which is yeah
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    it was a flop if it was designed to run
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    the prices up now here's the funniest
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    part sure and by the way I thought it
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    would
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    yeah well I I said they were talking a
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    hundred and you said no that's not gonna
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    happen it went uh but yeah I don't
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    believe a hundred but I believe twenty
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    twenty points up but it went up like two
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    sixty and then back down again yeah yeah
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    final clip which is funny because
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    obviously alright we so this didn't work
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    we still have the looming war with Iran
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    and we're locked and loaded and what
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    does it mean why is Trump doing this
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    well what what Trump's to do and loaded
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    and the Iranians are pretty smart
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    they've watched Trump over the years
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    just like I did in New York and we know
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    that he actually builds what he says he
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    builds he built woman Memorial Park ice
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    skating ring he built 42nd Street he
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    puts the Trump Tower so they're
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    interested more than anything else
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    where is Trump gonna come in and where
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    would he'd like to build a hotel Boulton
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    and Pompey is gonna make a deal and
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    somewhere on the southeastern coast of
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    North Korea you're gonna see it Trump
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    Towers and a Trump Hotel surely I'm not
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    being facetious you're gonna see in
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    Tehran and Azerbaijan and police all
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    kinds of Trump Tower hotels he's not
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    interested in war never has been never
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    will be but he will use force and the
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    threat of force in order to force you to
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    come to the cut the tables but he has no
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    problem coming back again and again and
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    again until he cuts the deal and he'll
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    cut the deal I think he listens to us
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    too much Wow he's getting way too many
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    ideas from us
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    there you go everybody drones drones
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    well that's just that's something you
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    don't hear on the networks constantly
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    but yeah it makes sense and then have
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    you know if you hear pens at this hour
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    so that makes a lot of sense
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    it's pen sense it makes so much sense
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    for him to all soon you'll be echoing
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    this and making kind of war talk there's
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    no intention whatsoever and everyone I
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    know who has family in Iran is or was
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    born in around lived in Iran they all
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    say these moas and the Americans they
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    always work together we're not really
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    worried I mean it sucks they got a lot
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    of problems but they're never really