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1173: Vinyl Vote

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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September 15th, 2019
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Executive Producers: Tony Cabrera, Dame Swaggerprance of the Orange Curtain, David Julian

Associate Executive Producers: Ryan Brady, Sir Pete of the high power vanilla hammerheads, Sir Kevin, protector of the Kiama Blow Hole, Sir Andrew Protector of the Bound Book, Daniel Roberts

Cover Art by John Fletcher

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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Two Major Saudi Oil Installations Hit by Drone Strike
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13:41
Eddie Money Dies at 70
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15:43
Adam's Trip to Vegas
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27:05
No Agenda Shoutout on 'Wealth, Power & Influence with Jason Stapleton' Podcast
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27:59
Vape Wars
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35:29
Third Democratic 2020 Presidential Debates
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54:00
2020 Democratic Presidential Candidate Marianne Williamson Caught on Hot Mic: "What Does It Say Conservatives Are Nicer To Me?"
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58:32
Michael Moore Appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher
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1:07:03
Real Time with Bill Maher: 'Overtime: Michael Moore, Bari Weiss, Krystal Ball, Michael Steele, Fernand Amandi'
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1:10:48
Former MSNBC Journalist Touré Neblett
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1:11:58
Credits
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1:30:16
Austin's Homelessness Crisis
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1:35:36
Felicity Huffman Sentenced to 14 Days in Prison in College Admissions Scandal
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1:40:49
Verizon No Longer Activates iPhone 5 Devices for Use on Its Network
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1:42:16
Private News Online: 'Should Apps Share Details of Women’s Menstruation and Sex Lives with Facebook and Other Sites?'
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1:42:57
The New iPhone's U1 Chip with Ultra Wideband Technology for Location Tracking
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1:46:54
ESPN: 'Bama Tracking Students to Check 4-Quarter Stays'
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1:52:02
Mylife.com Reputation Scores
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1:59:18
End of Show Clips
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1:59:52
Good Morning Britain: 'Humanoid Robot Tells Jokes on GMB!'
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2:02:06
Donations
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2:08:30
Birthdays, Meetups & Title Changes
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2:14:20
Edward Snowden Interview by The Guardian
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2:25:08
MIT Media Lab's Richard Stallman Under Fire for Depending Jeffrey Epstein
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2:34:48
Sulfur Hexafluoride
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2:38:51
Good Morning Britain: 'Should There Be a Limit to Gender Identities?'
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2:45:28
End of Show
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    12k lives matter man Adam curry
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    John C. Dvorak Sunday September 15 2019
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    this is your award winning combination
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    media assassination episode 11 73 this
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    is no agenda revving up the 500-mile
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    drones and broadcasting live from
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    opportunity zone 33 the frontier of
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    Austin Texas capital of the Durham Star
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    State in the morning everybody
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    I'm Adam curry - from Northern Silicon
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    Valley where it's foggy unbelievable I'm
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    John Steed Evora in our world today many
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    things are unbelievable foggy and San
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    Francisco not one of them ah come on
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    how can you call that unbelievable when
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    because it's not July unbelievable is
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    weaponized drones that fly five five
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    hundred miles
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    well that's unbelievable
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    what kind of drone does this electric
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    yeah I find this whole story a couple of
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    batteries of course I'm referring to the
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    explosions
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    yes saudi was at oil refineries a
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    refinery or processing what exactly is
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    that a refinery that is processing so is
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    everyone now waiting for the oil markets
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    to open tonight or when i think the open
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    late sunday to see if it'll go to $100 a
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    barrel well we'll go to $100 a barrel he
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    took out well for one thing it's a
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    refining operation not a crude oil
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    production operation so the refining
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    will be done someplace else right but
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    it'll it'll cause a a slowdown it has to
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    yeah what is it
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    apparently it accounts for 10% of the of
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    the production of the worldwide
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    production on a daily basis right well I
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    mean what I'm reading in a lot of
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    publications it's all oh this is gonna
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    be a heart attack for the oil oil
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    industry the price is gonna go through
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    the roof well they are gonna go up yeah
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    they were pretty low actually we were at
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    2 to 15 a gallon here
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    which is nice well it's the same four
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    bucks a gallon here so how much higher
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    it's gonna go I just by cycle if you
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    don't like paying $4 a gallon use a
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    bicycle
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    [Music]
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    I just can't get over this this non
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    reporting of what kind of drones did
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    this I feel exactly the same way what
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    kind of drones here's the CBS this is
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    the drone strike a clip CBS wrapping it
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    up multiple drones bombed Saudi Arabia's
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    the largest oil facilities today and
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    tonight Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
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    accused Iran of launching the attack and
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    ruled out a claim of responsibility by
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    Yemeni rebels the attack damaged the
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    source of an estimated eight million
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    barrels of crude oil produced there
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    every day that's about 10% of the
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    world's daily supply of crude oil
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    here's Roxana Saberi flames and black
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    smoke filled the sky over the world's
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    largest oil processing plant in Saudi
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    Arabia this morning spreading so far
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    they could even be seen from space
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    Saudi Arabia confirmed the abdic
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    refinery and her s oil field the
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    country's second biggest were both hit
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    by drone strikes in neighboring Yemen
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    Houthi rebels claimed responsibility for
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    the attack
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    republic min allahi ta'ala the group
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    spokesman said the Houthi struck the two
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    sites with ten drones and warned of more
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    attacks
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    the iranian-backed Houthis have been at
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    war with the saudi-led Coalition in
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    Yemen since 2015
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    brutal conflict has pushed Hammond to
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    the brink of famine and turned the
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    country into what the UN calls the
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    world's worst humanitarian crisis lately
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    that war has stretched into Saudi Arabia
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    with rebels repeatedly using drones to
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    target oil facilities the heart of the
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    country's economy and a source of 1/10
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    of the world's crude oil the Saturday's
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    attack hit deep within the country
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    proving the Houthis ability to carry out
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    increasingly sophisticated strikes and
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    threatening to escalate tensions that
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    are already inflamed in the Persian Gulf
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    today's drone strikes could have an
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    effect on oil prices but that depends on
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    how badly the sites were damaged Rina
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    the Saudis say Crown Prince Mohammed bin
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    Salman received a phone call from
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    President Trump saying attacks like this
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    could have a negative impact on the
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    economy in the US and around the world
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    well I have a couple well go ahead well
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    couple things first right by the way
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    everyone just a quick aside I do have
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    that I sewed I knew you'd laugh at it
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    many you many I so yes so you might like
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    it they probably mean a lot actually
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    this begs for a combo thanks for
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    somebody to translate it well let's give
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    this a shot hold on a second let's try
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    this I mean just rewind they probably
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    mean a lot yeah I would I wouldn't mind
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    a little trans translation that would be
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    nice yeah translation would be good
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    let's try this yeah let me just try it
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    [Music]
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    we can do a three-peat come on freeway
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    me a 3-way oh yes a three-way yeah
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    that's what I meant let's try it and
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    that'll be it then I'm done they
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    probably mean a lot yeah it's definitely
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    a combination worth remembering now
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    the thing that got me about this report
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    besides the kind of vagaries about how
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    much it was the damage the type of
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    drones not do we didn't learn anything
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    nothing uh and then that the last thing
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    he says Trump called Ben Salman and said
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    hey you know the economies are gonna be
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    affected by this really that's not a
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    phone call he's gonna make and that was
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    verbatim I'm sure it's bullcrap but if
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    you read here's the New York Times the
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    attacks immediately escalated tensions
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    but even as key questions remain
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    unanswered where the drones were
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    launched from and how the Houthis
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    managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi
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    territory some 500 miles from Yemeni
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    soil Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
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    accused Iran of being behind what he
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    called an unprecedented attack on the
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    world's energy supply and asserted that
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    there was quote no evidence the attacks
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    came from Yemen he did not however
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    specify an alternative launch site and
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    the Saudis themselves refrained from
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    pointing the finger directly at Iran I
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    just have a real problem with the drone
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    part I can't tell you anything else
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    about any other truth in this or
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    untruths what drones swarm apparently a
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    swarm of drones with I guess c-4 charges
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    auto home 500 miles I I'm just as
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    baffled as you are as the first thing
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    that came to mind is what kind of
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    reporting is this well there I do it we
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    we do have one guy who's in Saudi Arabia
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    that yes that did give us a report I am
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    reluctant as I mentioned earlier before
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    the show to mention his name let's not
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    do that but we can read what he sent to
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    us is a very one of our best producers
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    yes have it here gents hope this makes
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    it in time for the conversation today
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    indeed information beyond the news still
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    kind of sorting itself out but looking
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    at the drone attack on the Ramco sites I
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    chatted with some local colleagues and
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    have actually we're not doing this right
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    I just the way that CBS report just went
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    we have to have sound effects you know
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    they I heard this in the background they
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    had that
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    like machine guns well know that not
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    always need drones there we go
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    both sites are in the eastern region of
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    the kingdom karai's I think karai's is
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    about 100 kilometers east of riyadh and
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    ab pike
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    ABQ aiq is closer to the coast one of my
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    friends a local here showed me a video
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    we found on YouTube ostensibly uploaded
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    by a guy in Kuwait the clip shows a
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    night scene and what sounds like a jet
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    flying over he claims that that's one of
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    the drones that was launched from inside
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    Iraq and headed from Saudi Arabia sounds
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    like there were four that he heard and
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    I'm assuming those would be part of with
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    the apparently 10 drones that were sent
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    out reported by the news here if it was
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    a jet it may have been a cruise missile
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    vise drone
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    I'm familiar with this model cruise
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    missile glice drone since Iran has
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    transferred / sold Shabaab cruise
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    missiles to the Yemen Houthis I'm not an
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    unmanned aerial vehicle expert though
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    and could be wrong sure truth is out
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    there we'll keep poking around I know
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    our clients have been visiting out east
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    working to secure pipelines etc yes
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    another good reason not to mention his
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    name so this is a little different
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    sounds like this was a jet like a cruise
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    missile
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    hmm yeah Christmas is not the same as a
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    drone no but a cruise missile would have
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    blown up the entire facility yeah
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    now you'd think you think it would it
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    all depends on the on the load on the
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    charge the payload the bomb
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    well yeah carrying nothing and just fuel
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    it would did what it did but I don't
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    know it's vague and nobody's helping
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    here so well let's see who benefits
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    oil traders okay well they've been
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    they've been looking for this for a
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    while I mean this this does come as a
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    gift from the heavens for the commodity
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    boys
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    this also benefits the United States as
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    our exports are now valuable well that a
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    and B apparently China according to this
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    guy Kyle bass who I've been following
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    very closely I don't have a clip from
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    him today but he's the one who's looking
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    at China very closely and China's oil
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    imports have just skyrocketed over the
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    last few years and they're they're real
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    and they're paying more than they should
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    and now he's actually kind of cool if it
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    wouldn't collapse the economy but it
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    wouldn't do do them any good if the
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    prices of oil skyrocketed we could
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    probably take it because we have most of
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    our stuffs internally produced mm-hmm
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    but the world market would jack up the
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    price of jack up and the next thing you
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    know the Chinese would be under the gun
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    again so what the Hawks are saying is oh
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    well this is it this is our reason to go
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    to war with Iran I don't really see that
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    and so that's this another group that
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    would benefit doosh bad guys
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    [Music]
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    well
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    [Music]
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    eventually the truth will come out yeah
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    in a rose or he sent the drones in the
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    Rope yeah well you know could be anybody
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    but if if this is the story that they're
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    gonna hook the Russians make out to
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    lists don't forget that they make out
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    with their with their exports sure there
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    but if this is the story they're gonna
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    hold on to then we should be really
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    worried about this drone swarm with
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    incredible range capability using our
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    the cheese I mean it goes through
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    oh also our military industrial complex
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    might benefit as perhaps we need oh you
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    know think of the timing of this so we
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    have learned dome well if well hold on
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    we have the little uh
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    these apparently are smallish drones a
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    swarm of ten do you remember it was I
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    was it maybe a couple months ago that
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    drones were showing up at airports and
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    shutting down the airports for for 24-48
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    hours where they tried to find them and
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    I think there are some drone catching
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    technologies that have been touted in
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    the recent yes netting yeah well there's
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    the nets there's the microwave we can
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    essentially zap it and then bring it
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    down and land it and you know I like the
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    Nets myself I think that's cooler to see
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    some net gulp deploy snag a drone
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    well okay hey get drone and just snag a
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    drone and so we everybody wants to snag
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    a drone I guess we'll just have to see
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    what comes out this I find this very odd
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    that it's so it's just tossed away so
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    cavalierly I asked some drones right
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    quite sure 500 miles happens all the
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    time
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    it's like droning Los Angeles from San
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    Francisco yeah think about the White
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    House these things snuck under the radar
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    presumably our radar don't we sell all
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    our stuff to the Saudis I think so yeah
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    it's a good point
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    mm-hmm well yeah the White House would
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    be vulnerable from Baltimore
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    [Music]
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    more info needed I would be remiss to
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    not say that I'm very sad that Eddie
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    Money died yeah and money yeah he's a
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    good guy or was he used to play in
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    Berkeley free at this one bar for
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    probably ten years before he got
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    discovered yeah he had a kind of a
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    comeback in like 80 88 I think and then
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    he came to MTV you know it's such a nice
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    guy
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    his family's all cops and firemen and
  • 14:10
    well he you know he is you know about
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    the coma right I think so
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    refresh my memory is and it kind of
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    ruined his career that's why he had to
  • 14:21
    make a comeback because everyone what
  • 14:22
    happened to Eddie Money anybody got some
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    bad coke that's believed that's what it
  • 14:28
    was or something you some he ingested
  • 14:30
    something and went into a coma for a
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    year
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    yeah I do recall that and he was out of
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    commission ER he was just in the
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    hospital for a year was kind of like a
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    who's the reet petite Jackie Wilson he
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    Wilson Jackie Wilson went to a coma and
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    stayed in a coma and died in a coma and
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    he was one of the real great rock and
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    roll or early rock and rollers from the
  • 14:56
    60s but Eddie Money the same thing it
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    looked like it almost happened to him he
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    was out for a year and then he had to
  • 15:02
    make a comeback and you had them it was
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    that member he's partially paralyzed the
  • 15:07
    part of his face and never came back a
  • 15:09
    little they was a joke yeah and so but
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    he's always said that that sexy gravelly
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    exactly
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    from probably from polyps well he died
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    of esophageal cancer yeah yeah man
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    anyway I'm just sad 70 that's a little
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    young for Eddie although he probably
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    lived 15 years past this time he think
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    about it yeah including taking that one
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    year away probably did okay uh yeah so
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    we got back last night around time back
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    would you go ah Tina took me to Vegas
  • 15:49
    after the show Thursday
  • 15:52
    what should you drive well alright drive
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    from us but we almost did now she had
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    scored tickets to Bruno Mars and so and
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    Oh was it that she was that first place
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    or second place was two tickets to Bruno
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    Mars you're so funny
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    and we had we got hooked up by Dame
  • 16:16
    Angela there in in Las Vegas she got to
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    say basically a comped room one night
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    Compton one night reduced rate at the
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    Cosmopolitan the hippest hotel on the
  • 16:28
    strip ladies and gentlemen but you're
  • 16:31
    required to say that for the free room
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    oh yeah I don't think so and I'll tell
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    you why in a moment cuz they'll never
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    give me a free room again but we almost
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    did wind up driving as we went we went
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    out we went nice and early you know with
  • 16:44
    the show would we would do and I were
  • 16:46
    done on time got out there we had at
  • 16:48
    least an hour and a half again
  • 16:50
    we didn't have pre-check so we needed a
  • 16:53
    little bit of extra time for some reason
  • 16:54
    that didn't show up and then so it's six
  • 16:57
    o'clock and then we get a she gets a
  • 16:59
    text message oh I'm sorry your delight
  • 17:01
    is the latest flight is delayed until
  • 17:03
    9:30 like we're gonna see the airport
  • 17:06
    for three and a half hours so okay we're
  • 17:09
    ten minutes away as they will pop back
  • 17:11
    we can watch the at least an hour of the
  • 17:14
    debate which I was gonna miss and we're
  • 17:18
    almost home and the text comes back oh
  • 17:20
    sorry your flights on time in after all
  • 17:24
    which meant we had you know about 37
  • 17:27
    minutes to get back and get to the gate
  • 17:29
    through the nope recheck TSA checkpoints
  • 17:35
    I thought you paid money for good money
  • 17:37
    for free check yeah well you just don't
  • 17:40
    get always get it you know and you can
  • 17:42
    run askew and in bitch all you want you
  • 17:44
    don't always get it so needless to say
  • 17:45
    we did make it that worked then we got
  • 17:48
    to the hotel you know by the way people
  • 17:51
    shouldn't met know this
  • 17:53
    just because it says it's delay there's
  • 17:55
    two things that happen when a flight
  • 17:56
    gets delayed and then just a little
  • 17:58
    quick good tourist tip we love two
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    things happen one you look up you start
  • 18:03
    talking to people and you find that this
  • 18:04
    delay is bullcrap it's not a half an
  • 18:07
    hour delay it's gonna be our two-hour
  • 18:09
    three-hour delay yeah it's Jenny but
  • 18:12
    they keep giving you they make it they
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    want to keep you're near the gate the
  • 18:16
    other one is when they do a long delay
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    and then they pull the plug on it late
  • 18:21
    this can happen all this happens all the
  • 18:23
    time
  • 18:24
    oh we're got lucky we took a new plane
  • 18:27
    we got a new plane we're gonna be
  • 18:29
    leaving in an hour before you know we
  • 18:30
    said we would and what you're supposed
  • 18:33
    to do you gotta stick around you can't
  • 18:35
    just do what you did which is the
  • 18:37
    logical thing to do which is go back
  • 18:39
    home yeah and we only live as I said 10
  • 18:42
    minutes from the airport but by this
  • 18:44
    time we're going back at 6 o'clock we
  • 18:45
    hit rush-hour traffic so you've got a
  • 18:48
    little got a little interesting there as
  • 18:50
    well and white-knuckle e so we check-in
  • 18:52
    of where we're at to check-in for the
  • 18:54
    hotel and and the checking lady says oh
  • 18:59
    I'm going to upgrade you oh well this is
  • 19:01
    great
  • 19:02
    Vegas is starting off perfect yes yes
  • 19:04
    where we're upgrading it to a
  • 19:06
    one-bedroom suite hi I'm a high roller
  • 19:09
    baby and it's the second time the second
  • 19:12
    time it's happened
  • 19:13
    it's the disabled suite
  • 19:18
    you know with which has a closets that
  • 19:21
    to hang your clothes about waist-high if
  • 19:25
    you're in a wheelchair this is great
  • 19:27
    room but you know the shower I have to
  • 19:30
    bend over to if you get disabled sweet
  • 19:33
    more than once it happened once ago it
  • 19:37
    happened to I remember then but I've
  • 19:39
    never seen one of those sweets but this
  • 19:41
    but they call it an upgrade it's like I
  • 19:44
    want I should have called Donna's excuse
  • 19:46
    me did you run out of disabled people to
  • 19:48
    upgrade I mean surely there's someone
  • 19:51
    with a hump or half a leg who could use
  • 19:53
    this you know better than I can
  • 19:55
    or maybe and this is the scary part they
  • 19:59
    looked at me and went damn we should
  • 20:02
    give this guy a disabled suite put them
  • 20:13
    over in that room we don't want him
  • 20:15
    anywhere near us it's just it's very odd
  • 20:18
    you know I'm sure they have to fill up
  • 20:20
    the rooms and there's some there's some
  • 20:22
    logically outdoor rhythms but why don't
  • 20:25
    you move I mean it's not an upgrade for
  • 20:27
    me it's yeah so you get a little more
  • 20:30
    space and you can everything's got
  • 20:32
    handles your bum I mean again if you're
  • 20:34
    disabled I can totally dig the vibe of
  • 20:37
    this suite but if you're not it just
  • 20:39
    makes no sense
  • 20:41
    and moreover no one else could use this
  • 20:43
    over me I don't understand this was also
  • 20:47
    my first trip in Vegas with my hearing
  • 20:49
    aids this this was over stimulation to
  • 20:53
    the max never thought about it but
  • 20:58
    you're right yeah I guess is noisy yeah
  • 21:00
    and I think especially the cosmopolitan
  • 21:02
    is and I don't know maybe it's me that
  • 21:04
    it is it just that they've ramped it up
  • 21:06
    more
  • 21:07
    and again it's with the hearing aids you
  • 21:08
    have to the way I have my hearing aids
  • 21:11
    programmed it sounds like this podcast
  • 21:13
    everything in my ear sounds great you
  • 21:15
    know it's nice compression and sounds
  • 21:19
    perfect but when you throw slot machines
  • 21:21
    and people and music and all this added
  • 21:24
    it sounds like I'm listening to a
  • 21:26
    recording of someone reporting on Vegas
  • 21:29
    it's just it's just one big massive
  • 21:31
    noise and very confused is orienting
  • 21:35
    overstimulation moreover the them you
  • 21:37
    said twice what did I say Laura / well
  • 21:41
    if you say moreover you automatically it
  • 21:44
    means once again the mr. Olympia
  • 21:47
    conference was in town oh this is how
  • 21:50
    you're talking 45,000 muscled people
  • 21:54
    muscle-bound dudes
  • 21:56
    oh no no couples women couples oh yeah
  • 22:00
    everywhere couples I didn't know that
  • 22:02
    was a competition oh my goodness yeah
  • 22:05
    they're all jacked up now and they seem
  • 22:07
    very nice I mean but it's a hobby it's a
  • 22:10
    little intimidating Tina's like I don't
  • 22:14
    think I'm gonna go workout this morning
  • 22:16
    why not well Olympia people of being
  • 22:19
    there who the hell wants to work out
  • 22:21
    near them you just feel like shit
  • 22:24
    yeah that's interesting within the
  • 22:27
    elevator etiquette we're at the same
  • 22:29
    hotel oh yeah all over our hotel
  • 22:31
    everywhere all right and but some
  • 22:35
    big-ass people you know just yes they
  • 22:37
    get pretty big if they make that life
  • 22:40
    and speaking of sports she did it again
  • 22:44
    the keeper got the two of us into
  • 22:46
    basically one carry-on bag I don't know
  • 22:48
    how she does it
  • 22:49
    that's that's that's how she got her
  • 22:51
    name but man she should do a YouTube
  • 22:53
    tutorial on how to pack especially how
  • 22:58
    to pack how women should pack yeah I
  • 23:00
    can't pack like they're that major
  • 23:02
    offenders it's not it's not an offense
  • 23:04
    you know Tina's like what get the small
  • 23:07
    suitcase well I don't mind slepping a
  • 23:09
    bigger one just no okay oh yeah she
  • 23:14
    loves it she loves doing this it's a
  • 23:16
    sport and she succeeds it's amazing
  • 23:20
    after my talented wife so you so how is
  • 23:23
    Vegas Vegas is uh besides noisy what'd
  • 23:27
    you do buy did you just turn down the
  • 23:28
    hearing aids each other yeah no yeah I
  • 23:30
    do I went to a very narrow band program
  • 23:34
    side to filter everything out so you can
  • 23:36
    basically just hear someone talking next
  • 23:38
    to you and everything else is like an ad
  • 23:41
    in Bruno Mars was fantastic this was at
  • 23:45
    the the park the MGM the park theater
  • 23:49
    it's like 4,000 seater yeah I think they
  • 23:52
    have boxing matches in there yeah what a
  • 23:54
    gig that guy has man he shows up in his
  • 23:57
    basketball shorts his baseball cap does
  • 24:00
    an hour and a half
  • 24:02
    crowd loves it's fantastic tight guys
  • 24:05
    hit after hit yeah it's just millions
  • 24:08
    and millions of dollars you know that I
  • 24:10
    was talking to Dame Angela just the the
  • 24:12
    money they make on alcohol alone covers
  • 24:15
    anything they pay him in Vegas you
  • 24:18
    cannot get a drink for under $18 of
  • 24:20
    anything with alcohol any what $18 to
  • 24:25
    give you free nuts
  • 24:26
    oh yeah maybe in the high-rollers that's
  • 24:29
    over those days are over
  • 24:31
    no there's no more free booze and when
  • 24:33
    you're playing the slots no no no no now
  • 24:38
    it's it's crazy expensive I mean
  • 24:41
    obviously we're on the strip so that
  • 24:43
    makes sense but still the hell don't
  • 24:47
    really have a need to go back was our
  • 24:48
    feeling
  • 24:50
    hmm he didn't get to the restaurants you
  • 24:55
    told me about although I did find out
  • 24:57
    that the I was right the Waldorf Astoria
  • 24:59
    which is a new hotel
  • 25:03
    in Vegas used to be the Oriental the
  • 25:05
    Mandarin no the Mandarin a flopped yeah
  • 25:09
    that didn't work I don't know if this
  • 25:10
    Waldorf is gonna work either
  • 25:11
    it doesn't look shitty like the original
  • 25:13
    looks too nice the way the Waldorf in
  • 25:16
    New York is a dive I mean I think so at
  • 25:18
    least whenever I've been there well I
  • 25:19
    was there once maybe twice and it's did
  • 25:23
    it's a shabby is the only where you can
  • 25:25
    describe it mm-hmm and it's like it's
  • 25:27
    got a lot of old gold leaf and snows
  • 25:29
    flaked off I mean this is kind of to me
  • 25:32
    I've always reminded of the colors gold
  • 25:34
    and black hmm
  • 25:36
    and it's just had but it's it is the
  • 25:39
    hotel has got that underground rail road
  • 25:43
    tracted Frank yeah there's a special
  • 25:47
    armored vehicle train car and then they
  • 25:51
    admit as an elevator takes you right
  • 25:53
    into the hotel yes
  • 25:55
    and for years I guess reporters couldn't
  • 25:58
    understand how Roosevelt was getting in
  • 26:00
    and out of the hotel well I guess they
  • 26:02
    figured it out now yeah I wanted to
  • 26:06
    bring an update on the VAP Wars and then
  • 26:09
    I would love to hear from you about the
  • 26:13
    debate I was able to watch some of it
  • 26:16
    before we took off and you know you have
  • 26:19
    the Southwest Wi-Fi in flight I couldn't
  • 26:23
    watch it but eventually I was able to
  • 26:24
    get an audio stream just the radio some
  • 26:27
    radio station was broadcasting it so I
  • 26:29
    heard I could not really experience all
  • 26:32
    of it it seemed
  • 26:35
    what I heard was like kind of this more
  • 26:37
    the same I guess I'm sure there were
  • 26:38
    some gotcha moments there's just well it
  • 26:41
    was more well I was kind of surprised
  • 26:43
    and I wish I had this clip which was one
  • 26:46
    of the CNN people or I think was CNN we
  • 26:50
    said well at least there wasn't you know
  • 26:52
    at least they focused on the issues they
  • 26:54
    really got down to brass tacks on the
  • 26:56
    issues instead of just bashing Trump
  • 26:58
    yeah it was bellied it was bashed Trump
  • 27:02
    I can't believe they still call it a
  • 27:04
    debate let me do this this is a vapor
  • 27:06
    update first because there are a couple
  • 27:09
    of developments to talk about the vapor
  • 27:11
    wars and the first one I mean we've done
  • 27:13
    a couple reports on it and I like that
  • 27:16
    the No Agenda show is now becoming a
  • 27:18
    show prep for other podcasts welcome
  • 27:21
    back everybody wealth power and
  • 27:22
    influence so glad you're here I'm Jason
  • 27:24
    Stapleton with me as always as Matt
  • 27:26
    we'll be talking a little bit about the
  • 27:27
    debate today we laughing at some of the
  • 27:29
    people who were in it and then we're
  • 27:32
    going to talk a little bit if we have
  • 27:33
    some time about the vaping industry Amy
  • 27:37
    came in this morning while we were doing
  • 27:39
    show prep and played about a 20 minute
  • 27:41
    clip from was the name of the podcast no
  • 27:43
    agenda podcast when they were talking
  • 27:45
    about the the vaping industry now was
  • 27:49
    the name of that you know the name don't
  • 27:51
    pretend what was the name of that
  • 27:52
    podcast I can't remember was it I used
  • 27:55
    to do that all the time here is the
  • 28:00
    latest from Utah as the PR continues all
  • 28:04
    we have to do is just keep discrediting
  • 28:07
    vapes Grant Heller owner of I VAP says
  • 28:10
    he became deeply concerned after
  • 28:12
    Representative Paul Ray's press
  • 28:14
    conference on Wednesday out of the 12
  • 28:16
    bottles ten tested positive for opioids
  • 28:20
    PCP barbiturates and THC and they're
  • 28:25
    talking about vape juice not about th th
  • 28:28
    C capsules or anything vape juice from
  • 28:31
    the store pillar believes the panel
  • 28:33
    tests used to get these results is not
  • 28:36
    reliable and shouldn't have been used
  • 28:38
    the fact that they were done with the
  • 28:40
    ready strip tests shows me that there
  • 28:42
    was a different agenda than transparency
  • 28:46
    in public health yesterday
  • 28:47
    so what they did is and just to throw
  • 28:50
    gasoline on the fire they took this vape
  • 28:53
    juice and took you know you know what a
  • 28:55
    ready strip is John no I don't know
  • 28:59
    maybe I do but I don't know doesn't ring
  • 29:02
    a bell the ready strip is essentially a
  • 29:05
    drug test that parents can use that you
  • 29:08
    tell your kid pee in the cup and you dip
  • 29:10
    the strip in and then the strip will
  • 29:12
    will tell you I think by color what kind
  • 29:15
    of drugs your kid is taking but it's not
  • 29:17
    meant to dip into vape juice and then
  • 29:20
    say oh yeah it looks like there's kratom
  • 29:22
    in there come on he an austin-healey
  • 29:27
    with peak vape met with Beechtree
  • 29:29
    diagnostics on thursday the lab behind
  • 29:31
    the test result ABC 4 News was allowed
  • 29:34
    inside but they asked us to turn our
  • 29:36
    cameras off I wanted to sit down and
  • 29:38
    obviously be transparent and try and get
  • 29:41
    some transparency out of them I think we
  • 29:43
    achieved that today in the meeting the
  • 29:46
    owners of beech tree said they don't
  • 29:47
    endorse the panel test which is only 40
  • 29:50
    percent accurate ray says he
  • 29:52
    acknowledged that in his press
  • 29:54
    conference
  • 29:54
    but still chose to use them as a warning
  • 29:57
    to the public to be sold in the state of
  • 30:10
    Utah health officials say the state has
  • 30:14
    not decided how that rule would be
  • 30:17
    enforced yet owners with beech trees say
  • 30:19
    a formal statement will be released
  • 30:21
    later today and the attorney for beech
  • 30:24
    tree Diagnostics decided not to weigh in
  • 30:26
    saying in part we've determined not to
  • 30:28
    respond in a formal way regarding the
  • 30:30
    comments made by representative Ray
  • 30:32
    Wednesday afternoon beech tree has no
  • 30:34
    position either for or against vaping if
  • 30:37
    you're concerned about this issue please
  • 30:39
    contact the representative to share your
  • 30:41
    concerns but the damage of course was
  • 30:44
    already done it was already out there uh
  • 30:46
    there's this THC and kratom and opioids
  • 30:49
    in your vape juice thanks well done well
  • 30:54
    those test strips like anything that's a
  • 30:57
    test strip is usually designed for one
  • 30:59
    specific purpose yes and it would and if
  • 31:03
    it's designed to read your residual
  • 31:06
    something in pee it used this is very
  • 31:09
    complicated
  • 31:10
    because it has to be pee mainly be
  • 31:14
    because there's pH levels and certain
  • 31:16
    things that the way the chemicals work
  • 31:18
    they have to be you know it's just not
  • 31:20
    you just can't dip it in gasoline you
  • 31:23
    don't expect to get any kind of results
  • 31:27
    unless you're running this stuff through
  • 31:29
    a chromatograph it's not really it's
  • 31:30
    bullshit of course I mean I just I got a
  • 31:33
    report apparently vape juice contains
  • 31:35
    traces of ranch hand I mean it's crazy
  • 31:37
    what's going on these days well that's
  • 31:40
    pretty slippery now here's what a couple
  • 31:43
    of European publications even Politico
  • 31:45
    picked up on this hey how come this is
  • 31:47
    missing in Europe where's the vaping
  • 31:49
    sickness no one's dying nothing's going
  • 31:51
    wrong with vaping in Europe
  • 31:54
    maybe it's because they're safer were
  • 31:57
    there with the actual THC cartridges
  • 32:01
    could be but for sure that's nothing
  • 32:04
    wrong with the vape juice over there
  • 32:07
    now in this global world these things
  • 32:09
    tend to matter a little bit you know
  • 32:11
    yeah there's a scam underneath it all
  • 32:14
    well we we know that obviously I got the
  • 32:19
    patent information oh yeah on the
  • 32:21
    vaporizer this was patented by Herbert a
  • 32:24
    Gilbert in 1963 it's way way past due
  • 32:29
    and it it expired it's it's an expired
  • 32:33
    patent so it's pretty much open
  • 32:39
    all right it was the trades you got one
  • 32:43
    other thing
  • 32:45
    well it sounds like you're not
  • 32:46
    interested in no I'm interested well you
  • 32:49
    made your point well there's a
  • 32:50
    documentary about which it came out in
  • 32:54
    2016 called a billion lives and this
  • 32:57
    documentary I have the trailer I'll play
  • 32:59
    a little bit for you then this
  • 33:01
    documentary which you know is an award
  • 33:03
    winner in one of these palm things
  • 33:05
    showed how the tobacco lobby was willing
  • 33:09
    well of course that's the documentary
  • 33:10
    was willing to put a billion lives in
  • 33:14
    jeopardy by trying to stop the vaping
  • 33:18
    industry and it's well worth the watch
  • 33:21
    I'll just give you a couple seconds of
  • 33:22
    the trailer here my whole life I've been
  • 33:26
    told that smoking is bad smoking will
  • 33:29
    kill you smokers deserve to die I smoked
  • 33:33
    for forty years fifteen years I'll go to
  • 33:36
    my grave smoking I pretty much thought
  • 33:38
    that smoking wasn't thing in the past
  • 33:40
    part of history I was wrong
  • 33:43
    billion people dying from smoking
  • 33:45
    related diseases
  • 33:46
    seventy percent of current smokers want
  • 33:48
    to quit you trying to fail you trying to
  • 33:50
    fail I was shocked when I found out that
  • 33:52
    many people are using new ways to quit
  • 33:54
    is one of the biggest public health
  • 33:56
    breakthroughs we've ever had okay we'll
  • 33:59
    do this electricidad it's gonna go to
  • 34:01
    the savior alternative to fighting out
  • 34:03
    about day I stop those ways were being
  • 34:05
    banned in
  • 34:06
    or in more countries easy to buy
  • 34:08
    cigarettes than to blind a cigarette
  • 34:10
    that makes no sense
  • 34:12
    governments worldwide are the biggest
  • 34:14
    shareholders in the revenue of
  • 34:15
    cigarettes dangers of e-cigarettes and
  • 34:18
    the public health communities lying
  • 34:19
    about those chemicals this is no
  • 34:21
    evidence to back that up abroad people
  • 34:23
    are gonna die we don't know but we don't
  • 34:26
    know antifreeze and other flavors
  • 34:29
    antifreeze I'm spent almost a thousand
  • 34:31
    shipments right in my hands nobody wants
  • 34:33
    to talk about the public needs to know
  • 34:35
    the truth about these products and then
  • 34:37
    you public health people telling the
  • 34:38
    truth about the risks at least ninety
  • 34:40
    forest and West recipients were
  • 34:43
    responsible a few days destructive
  • 34:46
    chance you get the idea it's a good
  • 34:50
    documentary to see how the tobacco lobby
  • 34:52
    was all against vaping and until they
  • 34:55
    were until they were the vaping industry
  • 34:57
    and now it's just about getting the
  • 34:59
    small guys out yes okay now I'm done
  • 35:01
    let's talk about the debates well I did
  • 35:04
    want to mention the debit slip is stuff
  • 35:06
    like anti-freeze into that that little
  • 35:09
    dialogue that's a propagandistic
  • 35:11
    neuro-linguistic programming trailer
  • 35:14
    this should be abhorrent don't you
  • 35:16
    remember that that was out there though
  • 35:18
    oh ha this is antifreeze and vape juice
  • 35:20
    I remember it I don't I remember a
  • 35:24
    member of a pinnate man debates so let's
  • 35:30
    start with the thesis that they didn't
  • 35:32
    bitch and moan about but Trump bright at
  • 35:35
    all mm-hmm so like I just have some
  • 35:38
    short clips they gave my minute or a
  • 35:41
    minute and a half to open and I have
  • 35:43
    four of the opens here that are kind of
  • 35:45
    interesting that the most interesting
  • 35:47
    and I don't have the whole things
  • 35:48
    generally except for koalas but this is
  • 35:51
    uh here's here's bado
  • 35:53
    does the base bado opening it's an honor
  • 35:57
    to be on this debate stage it is
  • 35:58
    wonderful to be back in Texas in Houston
  • 36:01
    back here at TSU
  • 36:04
    on August 3rd in El Paso Texas two
  • 36:08
    things became crystal clear for me and I
  • 36:11
    think produced a turning point for this
  • 36:14
    country the first is just how dangerous
  • 36:16
    Donald Trump is the costs and the
  • 36:19
    consequence
  • 36:20
    of his presidency a racism and violence
  • 36:23
    that have long been a part of America
  • 36:25
    was welcomed out into the open and
  • 36:27
    directed to my hometown of El Paso Texas
  • 36:30
    where 22 people were killed dozens more
  • 36:33
    grievously injured by a man carrying a
  • 36:36
    weapon he should never have been able to
  • 36:38
    buy in the first place inspired to kill
  • 36:40
    by our president he fries and trumps
  • 36:46
    vape juice president don't worry they
  • 36:55
    don't apparently didn't hardly mention
  • 36:58
    Trump at this debate this is just part
  • 37:04
    of the Sanders is the base Sanders
  • 37:06
    opening let me be blunt and tell you
  • 37:10
    what you don't hear much about in
  • 37:12
    Congress or in the media and that is it
  • 37:16
    goes without saying that we must and
  • 37:19
    will defeat Trump the most dangerous
  • 37:23
    president in the history of this country
  • 37:26
    I'm glad they didn't bitch about Trump
  • 37:29
    no they didn't and so now we have this
  • 37:32
    is kamala and this I believe is her a
  • 37:35
    whole bit and she just goes everybody
  • 37:39
    kind of introduced maybe something they
  • 37:41
    were involved with like even bado
  • 37:43
    talking about gun control and later you
  • 37:45
    know Mon didn't grow anybody we're gonna
  • 37:47
    take we're gonna take your guys's with
  • 37:48
    the Republicans and said that but here's
  • 37:51
    Kamala and her bit and it's just all
  • 37:53
    Trump senator Kamala Harris thank you
  • 37:57
    it's great to be back at TSU spending
  • 38:00
    tonight talking with you about my plans
  • 38:02
    to address God the way the way she talks
  • 38:05
    I don't even have to see I promise it's
  • 38:08
    what is that what is it I'm hearing I'm
  • 38:10
    hearing a it's it's it's not a
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    laissez-faire it's a it's a prosecutor
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    district attorney yes patronizing yes
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    condescending thank you I'm spending
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    tonight talking with you about my plans
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    to address the problems that keep yep
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    night but first I have a few words for
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    Donald Trump who we all know is watching
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    so president Trump you spent the last
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    two and a half years full-time trying to
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    sow hate and division among us and that
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    is why we've got nothing done
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    you have used hate intimidation fear and
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    over 12,000 lies as a way to distract
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    work from your failed policies and your
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    broken promises what 12,000 lives I
  • 38:59
    didn't understand that 12,000 lies Oh
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    lies I thought lies documented lies is
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    it 12 thousands this is the official
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    number under policies and your broken
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    promises the only reason you've not been
  • 39:13
    indicted is because there was a memo and
  • 39:16
    the Department of Justice that says the
  • 39:18
    sitting president cannot be charged with
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    a crime but here's what you don't get
  • 39:23
    what you don't get is that the American
  • 39:26
    people are so much better than this and
  • 39:29
    we know that the vast majority of us
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    have so much more in common than what
  • 39:33
    separates us regardless of our race
  • 39:35
    where we live or the party with which
  • 39:37
    were registered to vote and I plan on
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    focusing on our common issues our common
  • 39:42
    hopes and desires and in that way
  • 39:43
    unifying our country winning this
  • 39:46
    election and turning the page for
  • 39:48
    America and now President Trump you can
  • 39:50
    go back to watching Fox News now I give
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    her a point for saying our country I
  • 39:55
    give her a point for that you don't hear
  • 39:57
    that often from a Democrat twelve
  • 39:59
    thousand lies comes from Washington Post
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    or Trump has made more than 12,000 false
  • 40:06
    or misleading claims 12k lives matter
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    man you know we go to what the one guy
  • 40:16
    didn't really bash Trump never spent too
  • 40:18
    much time on bashing Trump everybody
  • 40:20
    else did which is Gandy's weakens their
  • 40:23
    whole position that's okay let them do
  • 40:25
    what they want but this one I thought
  • 40:26
    was really rude this was Andrew yang who
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    comes out and even he z4 he starts off
  • 40:33
    by
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    by suggesting he's gonna if you go to
  • 40:37
    you ain't Andrew yang 2020 dot-com or
  • 40:40
    org one of the two you can sign up and
  • 40:43
    maybe be one of the thousand to ten
  • 40:45
    people ten people that will get a
  • 40:47
    thousand dollars a month for a year to
  • 40:49
    see what you can do with it this was
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    highly anticipated because he had been
  • 40:55
    telegraphing mainly on podcasts the only
  • 40:57
    place that he can still be heard that he
  • 41:00
    was going to do something big something
  • 41:02
    unexpected and you know I think it was
  • 41:04
    it completely expected he's the
  • 41:06
    universal basic income candidate and his
  • 41:10
    idea was to show people that you can
  • 41:14
    really make it you can be great if I
  • 41:16
    give you $1,000 a month but it wasn't
  • 41:18
    reported anywhere I saw as linking back
  • 41:21
    to the universal basic income they saw
  • 41:23
    it purely as a campaign stunt